February 23, 2023 • 36 mins
In Hour 1 of tonight’s edition of the Jason Smith Show, Mike Harmon and Arnie Spanier open the show discussing the Lakers playoff implications going into the final stretch of the season. Plus, the guys discuss the story, reporting that Skip Bayless and Shannon Sharpe hardly have any relationship outside of their TV show.
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Sports Radio. Yeah, that is right. Welcome back in. It
is another beautiful night here Fox Sports Radio from the
tire Rack dot Com studios. No Jason Smith tonight taking
the second half of the doubleheader off. It's like a
back to back in the NBA. He decided he needed
a little bit of load management. He'll be back tomorrow.
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So you heard us this morning in for Dan Patrick
and the Fellas, and now back here I am alongside
the stinking genius himself, my guy Arnie Span, your radio legend,
Wellen and one of the great antagonists. Our business is history.
What's up? I I didn't know you were driving tonight.
I'm you threw me off a loop there. I thought
I was gonna be driving tonight. I cackling of a
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madman less than two minutes in. There is nothing better
than that. Hey, come on my show and I want
to drive. Well, yeah, technically I am filling in for Jason,
and Jason drives, so I I just don't know when
he's not here. Those are the dynamics. You want to
take it up with Shapiro. Okay, No, that's okay. I
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there's a there's a there's a list. We we can
have the list altered, stinking genius. You know, it's like
the depth chart thing at uh you know, Friday Night
Lights when Billy Bob Thornton is flipping guys into the trash.
Can we got to do those things here in Fox
Sports raining? How you feel the you fieling for Dan Patricks,
so you're double duty? Yeah you Yeah. So tomorrow I'll
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be off an opportunity to go take my older daughter
to a theater opportunity here locally that she follows out
of Michigan that's out here for a couple of weeks
putting on a show, so the theater or something like no, no,
I forget what that No, no, no, it's it's it's
fat safe for worth kind of uh name, I don't
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even think. But yeah, no, she's she's big into theater
at her high school. They're they're working on lay Misser
Rob for the spring musical and all that fun stuff.
But yeah, I'm I'm a cultured man. I'm not just
all about wrestling, I mean, which is culture and of itself,
but between wrestling and all of our sticking ball store
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sports and uh, learning more and more about the racing world,
and certainly I know my way around a paramutual wager
or two for the hornest, hardest racing and horse racing.
Uh So, yeah, I've got it all a world now,
you're usually one of the more cultured sports talk hosts
at this network. There's no doubt about that. I spent
a lot of money on education that they admit that.
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I had to go to a lot of events and
learn the ropes in a lot of different ways, aren't
he so? Uh? And yet it still led me into
a radio studio because you went back to what I
loved as opposed to what I trained to do. Yeah,
I just looked into this job. So I don't think
they actually know. Yeah, I don't even think they've been
faking it for a long time. And as long as
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a check shows up based on what you do with
Plank on Sundays and coming and hanging out with me
now and again. It's all good, my brother. I love it.
I love it. How about it? I get the filling
with you with Dan Patrick. What you see, I have
rules against me. I don't know if the people know this.
I'm not allowed to be on the air when the
sun's up. I'm not allowed to be in the studio
with another host, obviously for certain reasons, because I'm not liked.
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And last time I was in there or liked. Yeah,
I was in the studio. I almost through my co
host to some glass windows. Well, I mean sometimes that's
gonna happen. I mean that's and we'll get into the
relationship of co hosts coming up about forty minutes from now,
because of a story that you sent my way. Yeah,
and it is an interesting one. It's not to labor
the point of those particular hosts, but it's a pulled
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to be with you here tonight, wherever you are on
the highways and byways. I know whether is affecting many
across these great states. So be careful out there, be smart,
just take your time. You'll get there. I'm trying to
go through as a bad on A high rate of
speed is a bad idea. Yeah, I'm about to get
about ten to twelve inches of snow in just the
next eight to ten hours. So if you're gonna have
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your wife out there shoveling like no condition, but don't
make me feed the bad guy here. What people don't
know is for her birthday, I bought her the deluxe
shovel that's curved with the foam handle and nice. Come on,
I wouldn't just argonomically designed and fitted. You paid for
the extra fitting like it was a nice set of
goals monogram. Let me come on the whole thing. It's
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like the Lamborghini of shovels. No, it is something when
we were growing up, people would got to laugh because
my mom was so particular about the lawn right every like,
wouldn't even let us mow the lawn, and then we'd
be allowed to still go play whiffleball and tear it
all up, which was the most asinine thing. You won't
let me run the lawnmower haphazardly because you want to clean,
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But an hour later, me and eight of my jackass
buddies can be out here trampling everything, creating divots and
digging holes with our sneakers as we'd try to turn
a double play. I don't understand it. I love that.
That was a big thing. Would not whifflebabble. But we
used to play stickball. So there, yeah, there you go.
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That was hard. Now you're aging yourself, giving yourself an
extra decade or two. Good for you. Good for you,
my friend. Well, we got a lot in the hopper tonight.
You certainly were up early before I was even on
air on the Dan Patrick Show, texting ideas. We've traded
a lot of great stories. There's a lot going on.
Don't let anybody tell you otherwise, just because it's only
college basketball. By the way, I'd be remiss if I
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didn't note that Syracuse got drummed again. Ah, Jimmy Jimmy
and somewhere the ears of Jason Smith and many others
in the media just perked up as they lose to Clemson.
But we pushed that aside because you know, we talk
a lot about our consumption of sports, our habits and
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what we have, and nothing bigger than the culmination of
an NFL season and the hundred thirteen million, hundred eighteen
million depending on look how much you believe the measurements
to begin with, but let's just take them for face value.
One hundred and thirteen million for the game, and then
the look you lose that came on board to watch
Rihanna lipsync and go through some of the greatest hits
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before you added them to your Spotify playlists and other things,
which was great. Like I'm not denigrating it, it is
what it is. I recognize the business of it all.
Good job by her, but the recognition of there's your
high point of everybody gathered around that like we used
to way back in the day when we only had
a couple of networks. And now this week's all about
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bemoaning ratings in the XFL. I'll look there half of
what they were last time. And then the NBA All
Star Game was gone twenty nine. How much of that
did you watch, Arnie, Well, you know, I had it on,
but I wasn't watching like it used to watch when
I was younger. If that's what you're asking. If I
didn't have to watch for the show, I wouldn't even
have had it on. I would have had a movie
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or something like that, or maybe watch the college game
or an NHL game in it was something that I
And by the way, the ratings were low, Mike, not
because of the bad play that was out there. It's
because people didn't tune in and then tune out and
so this is horrible. They were tuning out, but they
were they never tuned in exactly. They didn't even tune
in because they were disinterested because they know the players
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are disinterested. They didn't even have to see the bad
play to know that they didn't even want to watch
watch this game. You know. Well, but that's the thing
that confuses me. I mean, because the last couple of days,
all you've heard is a litany of people go on
and on and on about and certainly in your social media,
sports radio, television bleeding into general media, talking about how
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terrible the game was like, well, how do you comment
on it when when most of you didn't watch it?
The ratings would tell me most of you didn't watch.
I saw most of the first half, and then my
daughters and I said, forget it, let's go see ant Man.
So we went and watched the ant Man movie, which
was pretty cool. Uh and it was a nice escape
and whatever I didn't nap it was great. I was
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really proud of myself. I stayed away for the whole movie,
despite being up really early, up with the Sun, Gone
with the Wind, as Bob Seeger saying so many years ago.
But I watched the beginning of it. I saw a
little bit of the pre game, for which I've been
openly mocked on these airwaves over the last couple of days. Well,
what would have made it better, Mike, though? What it
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would have been better if they would have played some defense?
I mean where they play a one quarter man? If
you want me to stick around like I'm curious, Like
I'm a curious sort. And obviously for the show, as
you you referred to, aren'tie, is you pay attention to
a little of it? You watched Jannie? Is he gonna play?
Is he not? While he comes out, he gets his
little lay in dunk and then he goes, no, no, no,
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But but I mean, it's a cavalcade of stars. But
you're looking for some semblance of a basketball game. But
here's the thing, here's here's the joke is on folks
that we're expecting that they haven't done that in years. Yeah,
it's been like I joked with we talked with Rick
Bucker with this morning and I'm like, well, here's how
you add some extra flavor to it. Guess what, guys,
because nobody plays defense. You don't want to participate in
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the dunk contest. You're part of the dunk contest right now?
Ha ha that three sixty you just did. That guy
behind the bench there he's gonna tell you what your
score is. And now we have an in game competition
and you can't opt out because you already dunked. You know,
I'm part of it. Sometimes you just can't fix it,
you know. Maybe the ideas, and I brought this up
on Sunday when we have to bear through this game,
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maybe it's time that if you're not going to go
ahead and play for the fans and the fans don't
care anymore. Maybe we just got to make it about charity.
Maybe we got to go ahead and find out a
way that every player gets one million dollars donated to
their charity, and you know, we take thirty million dollars
or whatever it is, and we do something like that.
Maybe if we can't go ahead and have a dcent
game or anything like that, let's turn the weekend around.
Let's let's do something about it instead of just complaining
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how the ratings are awful. Yeah, I think when we
get get down that road, aren'tie guys already have their
foundations and whatever I know, and their tax shelter whatever
else they've set up. So the the motivation for an
extra million when you're making hundreds of millions off your shoes,
I like, I like it in theory, right, And and
that's where we're at. You're we're always trying to fix it.
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You know. It's just kind of like it's kind of
like the care about the regular season, you know, kind
of like the Iowa football games when they wave to
the kids in the hospital last together. You know, if
we do something like that where they do something for
the kids or something and we raise twenty five or
thirty million dollars. Each owner gives a million dollar. If
we're not gonna go and play hard, if if we're
just gonna take four or five days off, why not
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take one day to go ahead and make sure that
they're they're making the most productive of their time and
doing something like that. I don't know. Again, if we're
not doing it for the fans, do it for something
else that. Yeah, what I thought was interesting is, you know,
some of the pregame and bleeding in I thought was
a good job because a lot of it's and it
should be as you try to do one of these parties,
and that's what it is, is is a big corporate event, right,
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just a week leading to the Super Bowl. It's the
all the sponsors, all the brands, everybody's in the house.
But you also get to do some of the history lessons, right,
So you saw some of the vignettes before post Malone
was out there. My daughter looked at me at one
point as we're sitting there having dinner watching it. We
don't have any sound on. She goes, are they gonna
play basketball? Eventually? Yeah? I don't know, Actually it's gonna
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And then they started playing and she goes wait, this
is worse than the defense that wasn't played when I
played lacrosse a couple of years ago, where you couldn't check,
you couldn't hit. It was basically, if you got control
of the ball, you got to run from one end
to the other and as long as you didn't fumble light,
you could shoot it at the goalie. The same thing
here is because nobody's stepping away. And it was funny
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that the one time Lebron James did try to play
defense he hurt his finger. Yes exactly, you know, but
it wasn't even about the defense. Like I said, if
they would have played a little bit of defense, I
don't think that would have made it a whole much better.
It was like, oh, now now we have a great
All Star. You stipulate to what it is, right, it's
a let's hang out, let's laugh, let's have a joke
or two. Let's get out of here healthy and go
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on vacation. Yeah, they but they took so much away
from it. They took once they took it away from
the Eastern and Western conferences. And you know, with this
whole let's pick teams and let's squad mix it up
a little bit, so nobody could actually know who was
picked last. And I don't know. We've messed with it
so much now I don't even know if there's a
way back to getting back to where it was. Well, well,
we don't have. And something I alluded to earlier in
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the week, Arnie, is that you have the idea of
once upon a time, it was here's the Eastern Conference
and guys that don't like each other, but it's Michael
Jordan teaming up with Isaiah Thomas in the late and
the Celtics against the Lakers starting five was essentially and
here's the Keemalaijuan in the middle right. That was it?
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Like those were the ad Patrick Ewing whatever. But you
had guys that legitimately battled in the playoffs and like
each other. Here it's like everybody's just happy to see
each other. It's a nice festive event and either watched
or you didn't, and if you didn't, you were with
the majority, just like regular season games. All Right, we're
bemoaning the ratings for the playoffs. Nobody's got a solution
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on how to get people to watch regular season basketball. Yeah,
like that's the that's the first problem that you know
that's going to be the killer of the sport. Let
me tell you something. There's two sports nowadays. UM, there's
football and then there's everything else because um, basketball has
fallen in with baseball and soccer and hockey. It's just
a big miss Moss really for number two because everything
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is behind the NFL and for the most part college football. UM.
And they brought this on themselves. They went ahead and
they did load management. They've they've deemed the regular season
pretty much. It doesn't make a difference. So many teams
make the playoffs. There's the play in series. Mike, I'm
I'm I'm sick of what's happened to the NBA over
the last couple of years. Well, I know, because I
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mean you're very well know one of the owners locally.
And that's we're gonna turn our attention to next because
we've got some great comments from coaching player to dissect,
and for me, it's handwringing and laughing, chuckling like a
madman in the background, like a Bond movie villain. Be
sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith Show
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with Mike Harman weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven pm
Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. Hey,
welcome back in Fox Sports a Radio. Jason Smith. Yeall
with me, Mike Carmen here on a Wednesday night. No
Jason Smith, Arnie Spanier, the legend in his stead. Arnie,
I've already broken my headphones. I've been here for three minutes.
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One of the giant foam inserts has gone off of
the right ear. I'll go to the wayside. We'll be
dealing with hard plastic up against my head the rest
of the night. I've had my headphones for ten years now,
so yeah, these are at about four One of them
is kind of duct taped in place so it doesn't
fall apart the other side. Though, all of a sudden,
there's the there's the foam. We'll stop get it to
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get a good pair. It's been a little bit more,
you know it. Don't don't be so cheap now, well,
I mean they were. They weren't cheap when I bought them.
I mean I got four years out of him. You
get four years out of a pair of heads headphones
that you're trucking back and forth multiple days each week.
Here to the Fox Sports Radio Studios presented by Tirak
dot Com. I mean those those are pretty durable. Jason
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just added a new pair. He looks like Lobot from
the uh Star Wars series. You know what that guy is? No,
I don't know. He's a bald dude that had like
this headset looking thing on him that these part Robot,
not they call them Lobot. Okay, you can look them up.
You don't do that immediately, I'll do it right, I'll
get right. Why you got to be so hateful and
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serial so early? One of the Star Wars characters was
based on my English teacher? Is that right? Yes? Being
serious about that, that's what character is that I don't remember.
It's a big team because because the US like the
Emperor Catholic like a madman. While you were I'm struggling
with exam. I am not kidding around. You'll have to
look it up Google, and it says that because the
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guy that did Star Wars went to our high school
and he based it on our English teacher, Rose Gilbert.
That's that was her name, Gilbert. And you put in
Star Wars, you know it will say a whole history there.
How about that? I told you? What do you think?
I just make stuff up? Yes, do you know who
I am? Do you know who I am? Which is
exactly why I questioned it all. Although I know your
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high school connections, you got a lot of uh yes,
luminaries around. It was it was nutty. But yeah, the
guy who did Star Wars went through our high school
and he based one of the characters on our English teachers.
So that a lot of craziness in our high school.
All next, it's crazy stuff. I tell you. Hey, We're
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my life. Que the violin in the background, everything else. Now,
Darvin Ham comes over the top. He says, well, I'll
one up you. Now. It's all about winning. Do you
mean the first sixty games weren't. Yeah, they've got their
eye on the six seed. That's what they want. Currently,
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Dallas sitting there at thirty one and twenty nine, a
lot of teams to jump over. The only two teams
in the West that you're stomping on are those two
teams out of Texas. Everybody else is in the mix. Oh,
and you have to pass everybody else along away while
trying to keep Lebron James Anthony Davis healthy. Now, we
may like some of the moves that were made maybe
inspired basketball ahead of the break, but that was a
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couple of games ahead of the break. Let's see it
over twenty three games and see how many Lebron's available for.
And Anthony Davis, who he gave the side I make
us clearly he was looking in the mirror, so he
was challenging himself. I've got to be great. But also, hey,
Anthony Davis, you're gonna be there for the ride, right right?
He cannot, Darvin Ham, these are important. Yeah, you know what, Mike,
I have a better chance of dating supermodels before the
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Lakers are gonna get to the number six seed. And
by the way, since you brought up Anthony Davis, what's
going on here? And it's more than just him sitting
on the side looking disinterested when Lebron was breaking the
scoring record, it's just not there. I mean, some people
have reported or one person reported that, and I wish
I remember who was that Lebron's holding a more accountable
and maybe there's a little bit of a rift if
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we talked about it a couple of weeks ago. He's
got me to know him a little bit. Our buddy
Dan Woke joins us each week La Times writer and
a guy one of the few in the media world,
Jason Coleway, I think is there with him that can
match the smart snark that Smith and I bring on
a nightly basis. I was also going to say the
smarts let's just call ones. But twenty six points a game,
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fifty six percent from the field, twelve point three rebounds
for game. But what Wiki was telling us in talking
to Davis is the frustration over losing now availability we
can get into that he's only played thirty five games
this year, so that's certainly you know, on Davis, he
can only be so upset if he can't go, and
whether he's staying fully in shape. Remember the great flap
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going in the last year of how he hadn't touched
a basketball and all of those things. So the questions
of all right, are you doing everything you can to
be on the court. But then that night Lebron broke
Kareem's mark. The frustration was there because it was all
about getting the points, and then Lebron was injured towards
the end, heavy stress minutes trying to get to the
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record and knock that out that night that he missed
the final four minutes. What did they do? They lost
that game? Yeah, and then he was unavailable. So some
of it from Waike was Davis was frustrated about that,
how the focus had kind of shifted to accelerating and
they lost games, not just one game. One part though,
right right, it just seems that there's something more going on,
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and and you know, maybe we won't find that right now,
maybe we'll find that after the season, but you could
feel like there's some tension there sure. By the way, um,
you know, I'm so just on just la basketball. I'm
so glad that Russell Westbrook went to the Clippers. I'm
so rooting for this guy. I think the knock he's
got an immediate makes me sick to my stomach. And
I hope he just gets the last I hope he
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gets the championship, gets to revenge on everybody. You know that.
You know what. There was a quote from Darwnham today.
I heard about the dress. Ridiculous Russell Westbrook. I appreciate
Russell everything, sacrificing, you know, complying with my vision of
him coming off the bench and having a wish him
going forward. And that's it. And that's it. Now, that
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doesn't sound like that. That doesn't sound like a ringing
a doorsm That was what I had to say. By
the way, I wish Mike Carmen the future, and that's it.
That's all I wish. That's what I'm legally required to
give you exactly. Hey, did they work for your organization?
I can give you the dates and a yes. You
want any other information, Nope, you gotta find them more.
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Come on, he sounds he just sounds bitter about it.
He just sounds that. But he's all about winning. His
focus is winning, now, Ernie, I mean that's what it's
all about. I mean, that's laser intensity, is what you
got there from Darvenham sarcasm. Bucket filling up early here
on a Wednesday. You should be the head coach of
the Clippers then, is well? But to your point about
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Russell Westbrook, Right, the one thing we can always say
about Russ, whether you like his game, like the fit.
I think Smith and I we're kind of we we
butt heads about a lot of things. But one thing
I liked about Russell when they brought him in for
the Lakers was all right, if used in this capacity, Ie,
he's got the ball, he gets to move you, maybe
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spare Lebron's legs a little bit and you get it. Well, well,
obviously that didn't happen, and that didn't work, so it
gets torn asunder. You've got a guy who's generally pretty
prickly with the local news and face it on a
grand scale. I mean, but most guys aren't very hard
on him. It's all becomes a perception thing, and it's
all a theory of relativity. But yeah, I mean, you
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saw what was it about two weeks ago there was
someone that actually complimented in play. It was like a
five year old that it just been phrased for putting
his dishes the same because he's not used to it. Mike,
And you know, don't say they're not a hard on him.
Maybe they're not hard of him when they go ask
him questions, but they're hard on him on those TV
at debate shows and all that, and then they go out.
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I was talking about the local media, right, You know,
you normally don't guys that are antagonistic most of the time, Mike,
because there are a former MVP in any league that's
ever gotten knocked as bad as Russell Westbrook. Maybe Aaron Rodgers,
but that's about it. I can't think of an MVP
that has been torn apart up the way people tear
apart Russell Westbrook. It's horrible, it really is. No women,
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He's a guy and he's now well traveled former NBA MVP.
Triple Crown or Triple Hight. Yeah, Russell Westbrook that I
want to go crown. But that's baseball. Yeah, same same idea,
just different terminology, but just the idea. Like the one
thing for Russell Westbrook that you can always say is
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you were going to get an honest effort. Did you
like the results? Maybe maybe not. But he's not a
guy that took days off, no load management, no opting
out of games. There was one instance, I think where
they had a little bit of a kerfuffle and he
took the night off, and I think that was more
team or you know, dictating than him. But he was
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a guy that gave you an honest effort. And in
today's NBA, when you're praying that your superstar plays what
sixty games? He asked for sixty five? What's acceptable for you?
I would have to say sixty plause I would take
I would take sixty five. At this point, I'll take sixty. Yeah,
give me seventy five percent of the time. Yeah, yeah,
a shade under it. But you get my point if
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you get me there and you're giving me your honest
effort for those seventy five percent. The way the NBA works,
you're making the playoffs in theory, and then you've given
yourself enough in the quote load management that you're ready
to play. Could you about the boss? Dot to? You?
Just give me a good three days a week and
that's all I hope you're working to negotiate. Got a
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couple of years and just give you. Yeah, just give
me a good two hours a show and then take
the last hour off. I don't care. I got four
hours a night. You realize what, Yeah, because I don't
have one of those two hours show things. None of
that here. Get those fours up he's already span you're
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Show with Mike Harman weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific. We'll get back to the mystery of Arnie's teacher,
because I think I believe I know who it truly
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is and it's not Charge Army. Okay, Well, we'll get
into that a little bit later, thanks, Brian. Want to
do We'll get back to the NBA and about twenty
minutes from now, we've got the relationships in media and
in your own working environments. You can pull this into
any space and office space that you work in. But
I wanted to take a minute on this Alabama situation. Yes, absolutely, Arnie,
(25:51):
as we've got some details out here and I'll just
go down to brass tacks and some of it. Of
all right, cooperative witnesses, the term being you did he
furnish the gun. Was he on the way? What the
role was in this process for Miller? If they weren't
number two in the nation, is he playing? No, he
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is not. If they forget about if they're not number two,
if he's like the twelfth guy or you know, a guy,
he's not playing. A matter of fact, he may be
dismissed by the team, but he's not that he's he's
one of the stars. Um, that's why he's playing. Mike. Legally,
I don't think he's done anything wrong. Morally, he's done
something wrong, and maybe for the moral reasons is why.
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Because it is a university, maybe he should not have
played this game. But they're not going to chance that.
It's one of the highest rankings Alabamas had in what
twenty twenty five years in basketball. I'm saying so um,
but the whole thing is just horrible because let's let's
not forget the fact that a twenty three year old
young woman lost her wife and this whole thing, and
that's where the whole thing is clouded. Um. Legally, I
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can't say he's done anything wrong league a matter of fact,
I don't think he's has but morally could have been
a good reason maybe to sit them out this game. Quote.
Our role in a criminal investigation is support law enforcement,
not to conduct our own investigation, and not to interfere
with their efforts. Although we're not investigators, we do have
a duty to evaluate whether anyone involved in our program
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has violated the rules, policies, or standards of the university.
We make that evaluation based on facts. Yes, you see,
like if you get caught cheating, you don't go to jail.
Like if I said, hey, Mike, I don't know I
cheated on a test today, I don't go to jail
for that. But you get thrown out of university. Okay,
there's definitely you get into letter and spirit of your
(27:40):
exactly and your code of conduct. And certainly when you're
a representative of the university, as you are being a
member of an athletic team, particularly one of this stature,
then certainly the rules of engagement come into play and
the university and the coach you know, put his foot
in his mouth the other day and he a terrible
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apology to her, horrible in that regard. So it's but
you're handed kind of handling of what he is a
terrible circumstance. But as you said earlier, that there's the answer.
If he's the last guy on the bench, forget about
even playing. He may have been dismissed from the team
or suspended for a couple of games. That's how you
know if the punishment is correct or not correct, or
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if they're bending over backwards to protect him, if the
last guy in the bench gets a different punishment than
the first guy in the bench. And I know that
happens in a lot of programs, but that's how you
know that a guy probably should not have been on
the team today. Our hope is, of course, obviously, that
justice is done and that they find some comfort and
the victim and her family, her friends and those who
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loved her. We'll keep an eye on this as more
information develops. Game being played as we speak right now,
you've got Alabama and South Carolina getting after it. To
lighter topics, yes, and that of relationships. What are they fraid?
What are they just nice working relationships where you just
say congratulations on a job done. He's already spanning. You're
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Fox Sports Radio. Be sure to catch live editions of
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into this next topic. As we're going here, Alex Tisher,
Brandon trumpa behind the glass making a sound oh so pretty,
Welcome back in Jason Smith Show with me, Mike Carmen.
There's no Jason Smith tonight. It's the stinking genius himself. Yes,
Arnie Spanner. You hear him every weekend alongside Chris Plank.
And that goes straight into the story that we're going
to talk about here, and it's one that you brought
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to my attention a little bit earlier talking about, well,
let's face it, in our media world, whenever guys get
a little agitated with each other on air men women,
there's there's going to be maybe some beef. And one
of those has happened over and at best one you
had the rumored beef, some of it playing out on
(30:15):
camera between Shannon Sharpe and Skip Bayliss, right, And it's
always the question of what's real, what's imagined, some of
it bleeding over. Maybe you're you're doing a topic you
have no desire to. Maybe you don't feel heard. I
certainly know Smith and I were now in year ten
of our show together Arnie with amazing how fast the
(30:36):
time goes, you know, Like I came in this morning,
we did the Dan Patrick Show, blessed to be part
of the rotation to go in And I don't take
any of it for granted. It's been a long road.
You and I go back a long ways here on
Fox Sports Radio, blessed and know your guya listened to
guys still will pop in every now and again just
to hear you yell if especially if I know it's
(30:57):
something you're gonna get fired up about. It's well, which
is everything, but it's just the idea that you have
that longevity in history with someone like Smith and I.
There are times where it's like, all right, it's the
Jets again. I'm done with this, right right, right right,
I'm already done with Derek Carr. If I had money,
I'd be funneling whatever I could to David Carter, just say,
(31:19):
would you get your brother to sign somewhere anywhere, go
to the XFL. I don't care, just I don't want
to talk about where what he's planning to do anymore.
And sometimes there'll be a moment right the rest of
your world while you try to leave it outside the doors.
If you're having a stressful day, your kids are having
a little trouble with a class at school, something stressing
(31:41):
them out. You know, you've got relationship, maybe your friends
are having some issues that you're talking before you come in.
Sometimes that comes in and it bleeds in right as
we well know. You try to leave stuff out of
the office, but it finds its way in. And if
there's a topic that we don't want to talk about,
I might get a little snippy, might be a little
more chesty about how terrible the Jets or Mets are.
(32:04):
And it's not personal. It's just all right, you're the outlet,
and you're gonna get a little bit of my venting.
And that's the way it works. And I got to
imagine to some degree, which Shannon and Skip, that's the
way it goes. Particularly if you don't feel heard or
someone's repeating the same argument that you've heard before. It
might have been six months ago, but it's there and
(32:25):
fresh in your mind, made for you and Plank. You
guys have been working together forever. We've been working together
for ten years. We've never met face to face. How's
that working out for you? Have you? At least it's
at least working out good for Plank. I know that.
But yeah, ten years out to eleven years now, and
we have never ever been in the same room together.
We've never been face to face and you've never made
(32:45):
the effort to do it either. It's not even face
time each other, not even so nothing we've you know what.
And the reason obviously you're bringing up is because shadd
had said that he's not really good friends with Skip
off the TV, off the air, and you know, sometimes
um that works out. I mean, look at Mike and
the mad Dog. They didn't even talk to each other
(33:07):
during the breaks. Sometimes I just read that Regis in
the article that Regis said there's no talking during the
break saving for on the air. Sometimes you're just not
you know, you got your own family, Mike, you got kids,
you got daughters. You know, you got things to do.
You can't you're on with this guy four hours a night.
You have other stuff you have to get to when
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you get home, so you can't really make time for him.
You gotta make time for your own family. But yeah,
you know that a lot of people be surprised. I
think a lot of relationships are like that when it
comes to TV teams or radio teams like you and Jason.
You know, yeah, I think I think it bleeds back.
And for everybody out there listening, wherever you are, we
appreciate you being part of the extended family as we
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come to you live from the tire Act dot Com
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you're on the highways and byways, be safe, get to
your destination, get to your loved ones. You can continue
those relationships right, but at work. Right Maybe in your twenties,
you're single, you got a group of folks. They start
together and it's you're taking over an area together and
(34:10):
you're learning that city or the suburbs, or how to
get to and from on public trend whatever it is
you've got, you know, like minded. In terms of your
musical taste, maybe you get a little bit of culture
in the theater. Maybe you like going to concerts, the
local bars, whatever it is, you can miserate. Bit by bit,
people couple up, they splinter off. Maybe they decide the
(34:32):
bar life isn't for them. They'd rather just sit at
home and stream something, or maybe they're twitch gamers or
whatever the case may be. Netflix and chill. All of
those things come into play where people hit different phases
than their lives. And the dependency on the relationships outside
of the forty fifty hours that you're spending together in
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the office, isn't there. Well, people think like you would
you and Jason to like probably carpool to work together,
or go out to dinner afterwards or something like that
every night, or when you're done with the work. Well,
once in a while, I mean there will be a
card pool situation at the car. And when we had
Karma Eddon a couple of years ago, that's the name
they gave to it, and it was taking two and
a half hours to get to work. Oh my god. Well,
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I mean that's twenty miles two and a half hour.
And this is a pre pandemic. Right. We've been blessed
with technology and stuff and the beautiful com rex machines
that allow us to connect from our homes and eventually
occasionally there's a little bit of a hiccup here and
there internet connections. I know the winds in southern California
have been affecting the viability of such this week, But
(35:38):
just the idea of all right, we don't have to
look at each other for four hours a night. Right.
You know, he's got a daughter, I've got two, and
we commiserate a little bit on that. We talk about
films and television. But to your point of, hey, keep
it for the show, the regious line, Well, that's part
of it. It's got to stay fresh if you've exhausted all.
Part of it is letting people into your persona and
(35:59):
your personal life to a degree so they get to
know you. So why do it off air and they
try to recreate it. I don't want to go out
to dinner with you, talk to you two hours about
something in sports, and then come back to next morning
and do the same two hours with no hours again.
You know, no, absolutely, which is why as soon as
we hang up tonight, I'll talk to you the next
time you go host Never he's already spanned your in
(36:21):
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Sports Radio. Yeah, that is right. Welcome back in. It
is another beautiful night here Fox Sports Radio from the
tire Rack dot Com studios. No Jason Smith tonight taking
the second half of the doubleheader off. It's like a
back to back in the NBA. He decided he needed
a little bit of load management. He'll be back tomorrow.
(00:46):
So you heard us this morning in for Dan Patrick
and the Fellas, and now back here I am alongside
the stinking genius himself, my guy Arnie Span, your radio legend,
Wellen and one of the great antagonists. Our business is history.
What's up? I I didn't know you were driving tonight.
I'm you threw me off a loop there. I thought
I was gonna be driving tonight. I cackling of a
(01:11):
madman less than two minutes in. There is nothing better
than that. Hey, come on my show and I want
to drive. Well, yeah, technically I am filling in for Jason,
and Jason drives, so I I just don't know when
he's not here. Those are the dynamics. You want to
take it up with Shapiro. Okay, No, that's okay. I
(01:31):
there's a there's a there's a list. We we can
have the list altered, stinking genius. You know, it's like
the depth chart thing at uh you know, Friday Night
Lights when Billy Bob Thornton is flipping guys into the trash.
Can we got to do those things here in Fox
Sports raining? How you feel the you fieling for Dan Patricks,
so you're double duty? Yeah you Yeah. So tomorrow I'll
(01:53):
be off an opportunity to go take my older daughter
to a theater opportunity here locally that she follows out
of Michigan that's out here for a couple of weeks
putting on a show, so the theater or something like no, no,
I forget what that No, no, no, it's it's it's
fat safe for worth kind of uh name, I don't
(02:15):
even think. But yeah, no, she's she's big into theater
at her high school. They're they're working on lay Misser
Rob for the spring musical and all that fun stuff.
But yeah, I'm I'm a cultured man. I'm not just
all about wrestling, I mean, which is culture and of itself,
but between wrestling and all of our sticking ball store
(02:37):
sports and uh, learning more and more about the racing world,
and certainly I know my way around a paramutual wager
or two for the hornest, hardest racing and horse racing.
Uh So, yeah, I've got it all a world now,
you're usually one of the more cultured sports talk hosts
at this network. There's no doubt about that. I spent
a lot of money on education that they admit that.
(02:58):
I had to go to a lot of events and
learn the ropes in a lot of different ways, aren't
he so? Uh? And yet it still led me into
a radio studio because you went back to what I
loved as opposed to what I trained to do. Yeah,
I just looked into this job. So I don't think
they actually know. Yeah, I don't even think they've been
faking it for a long time. And as long as
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a check shows up based on what you do with
Plank on Sundays and coming and hanging out with me
now and again. It's all good, my brother. I love it.
I love it. How about it? I get the filling
with you with Dan Patrick. What you see, I have
rules against me. I don't know if the people know this.
I'm not allowed to be on the air when the
sun's up. I'm not allowed to be in the studio
with another host, obviously for certain reasons, because I'm not liked.
(03:41):
And last time I was in there or liked. Yeah,
I was in the studio. I almost through my co
host to some glass windows. Well, I mean sometimes that's
gonna happen. I mean that's and we'll get into the
relationship of co hosts coming up about forty minutes from now,
because of a story that you sent my way. Yeah,
and it is an interesting one. It's not to labor
the point of those particular hosts, but it's a pulled
(04:02):
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to be with you here tonight, wherever you are on
the highways and byways. I know whether is affecting many
across these great states. So be careful out there, be smart,
just take your time. You'll get there. I'm trying to
go through as a bad on A high rate of
speed is a bad idea. Yeah, I'm about to get
about ten to twelve inches of snow in just the
next eight to ten hours. So if you're gonna have
(04:45):
your wife out there shoveling like no condition, but don't
make me feed the bad guy here. What people don't
know is for her birthday, I bought her the deluxe
shovel that's curved with the foam handle and nice. Come on,
I wouldn't just argonomically designed and fitted. You paid for
the extra fitting like it was a nice set of
goals monogram. Let me come on the whole thing. It's
(05:05):
like the Lamborghini of shovels. No, it is something when
we were growing up, people would got to laugh because
my mom was so particular about the lawn right every like,
wouldn't even let us mow the lawn, and then we'd
be allowed to still go play whiffleball and tear it
all up, which was the most asinine thing. You won't
let me run the lawnmower haphazardly because you want to clean,
(05:25):
But an hour later, me and eight of my jackass
buddies can be out here trampling everything, creating divots and
digging holes with our sneakers as we'd try to turn
a double play. I don't understand it. I love that.
That was a big thing. Would not whifflebabble. But we
used to play stickball. So there, yeah, there you go.
(05:47):
That was hard. Now you're aging yourself, giving yourself an
extra decade or two. Good for you. Good for you,
my friend. Well, we got a lot in the hopper tonight.
You certainly were up early before I was even on
air on the Dan Patrick Show, texting ideas. We've traded
a lot of great stories. There's a lot going on.
Don't let anybody tell you otherwise, just because it's only
college basketball. By the way, I'd be remiss if I
(06:09):
didn't note that Syracuse got drummed again. Ah, Jimmy Jimmy
and somewhere the ears of Jason Smith and many others
in the media just perked up as they lose to Clemson.
But we pushed that aside because you know, we talk
a lot about our consumption of sports, our habits and
(06:31):
what we have, and nothing bigger than the culmination of
an NFL season and the hundred thirteen million, hundred eighteen
million depending on look how much you believe the measurements
to begin with, but let's just take them for face value.
One hundred and thirteen million for the game, and then
the look you lose that came on board to watch
Rihanna lipsync and go through some of the greatest hits
(06:52):
before you added them to your Spotify playlists and other things,
which was great. Like I'm not denigrating it, it is
what it is. I recognize the business of it all.
Good job by her, but the recognition of there's your
high point of everybody gathered around that like we used
to way back in the day when we only had
a couple of networks. And now this week's all about
(07:13):
bemoaning ratings in the XFL. I'll look there half of
what they were last time. And then the NBA All
Star Game was gone twenty nine. How much of that
did you watch, Arnie, Well, you know, I had it on,
but I wasn't watching like it used to watch when
I was younger. If that's what you're asking. If I
didn't have to watch for the show, I wouldn't even
have had it on. I would have had a movie
(07:33):
or something like that, or maybe watch the college game
or an NHL game in it was something that I
And by the way, the ratings were low, Mike, not
because of the bad play that was out there. It's
because people didn't tune in and then tune out and
so this is horrible. They were tuning out, but they
were they never tuned in exactly. They didn't even tune
in because they were disinterested because they know the players
(07:55):
are disinterested. They didn't even have to see the bad
play to know that they didn't even want to watch
watch this game. You know. Well, but that's the thing
that confuses me. I mean, because the last couple of days,
all you've heard is a litany of people go on
and on and on about and certainly in your social media,
sports radio, television bleeding into general media, talking about how
(08:16):
terrible the game was like, well, how do you comment
on it when when most of you didn't watch it?
The ratings would tell me most of you didn't watch.
I saw most of the first half, and then my
daughters and I said, forget it, let's go see ant Man.
So we went and watched the ant Man movie, which
was pretty cool. Uh and it was a nice escape
and whatever I didn't nap it was great. I was
(08:37):
really proud of myself. I stayed away for the whole movie,
despite being up really early, up with the Sun, Gone
with the Wind, as Bob Seeger saying so many years ago.
But I watched the beginning of it. I saw a
little bit of the pre game, for which I've been
openly mocked on these airwaves over the last couple of days. Well,
what would have made it better, Mike, though? What it
(08:57):
would have been better if they would have played some defense?
I mean where they play a one quarter man? If
you want me to stick around like I'm curious, Like
I'm a curious sort. And obviously for the show, as
you you referred to, aren'tie, is you pay attention to
a little of it? You watched Jannie? Is he gonna play?
Is he not? While he comes out, he gets his
little lay in dunk and then he goes, no, no, no,
(09:19):
But but I mean, it's a cavalcade of stars. But
you're looking for some semblance of a basketball game. But
here's the thing, here's here's the joke is on folks
that we're expecting that they haven't done that in years. Yeah,
it's been like I joked with we talked with Rick
Bucker with this morning and I'm like, well, here's how
you add some extra flavor to it. Guess what, guys,
because nobody plays defense. You don't want to participate in
(09:40):
the dunk contest. You're part of the dunk contest right now?
Ha ha that three sixty you just did. That guy
behind the bench there he's gonna tell you what your
score is. And now we have an in game competition
and you can't opt out because you already dunked. You know,
I'm part of it. Sometimes you just can't fix it,
you know. Maybe the ideas, and I brought this up
on Sunday when we have to bear through this game,
(10:00):
maybe it's time that if you're not going to go
ahead and play for the fans and the fans don't
care anymore. Maybe we just got to make it about charity.
Maybe we got to go ahead and find out a
way that every player gets one million dollars donated to
their charity, and you know, we take thirty million dollars
or whatever it is, and we do something like that.
Maybe if we can't go ahead and have a dcent
game or anything like that, let's turn the weekend around.
Let's let's do something about it instead of just complaining
(10:23):
how the ratings are awful. Yeah, I think when we
get get down that road, aren'tie guys already have their
foundations and whatever I know, and their tax shelter whatever
else they've set up. So the the motivation for an
extra million when you're making hundreds of millions off your shoes,
I like, I like it in theory, right, And and
that's where we're at. You're we're always trying to fix it.
(10:43):
You know. It's just kind of like it's kind of
like the care about the regular season, you know, kind
of like the Iowa football games when they wave to
the kids in the hospital last together. You know, if
we do something like that where they do something for
the kids or something and we raise twenty five or
thirty million dollars. Each owner gives a million dollar. If
we're not gonna go and play hard, if if we're
just gonna take four or five days off, why not
(11:04):
take one day to go ahead and make sure that
they're they're making the most productive of their time and
doing something like that. I don't know. Again, if we're
not doing it for the fans, do it for something
else that. Yeah, what I thought was interesting is, you know,
some of the pregame and bleeding in I thought was
a good job because a lot of it's and it
should be as you try to do one of these parties,
and that's what it is, is is a big corporate event, right,
(11:25):
just a week leading to the Super Bowl. It's the
all the sponsors, all the brands, everybody's in the house.
But you also get to do some of the history lessons, right,
So you saw some of the vignettes before post Malone
was out there. My daughter looked at me at one
point as we're sitting there having dinner watching it. We
don't have any sound on. She goes, are they gonna
play basketball? Eventually? Yeah? I don't know, Actually it's gonna
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And then they started playing and she goes wait, this
is worse than the defense that wasn't played when I
played lacrosse a couple of years ago, where you couldn't check,
you couldn't hit. It was basically, if you got control
of the ball, you got to run from one end
to the other and as long as you didn't fumble light,
you could shoot it at the goalie. The same thing
here is because nobody's stepping away. And it was funny
(12:05):
that the one time Lebron James did try to play
defense he hurt his finger. Yes exactly, you know, but
it wasn't even about the defense. Like I said, if
they would have played a little bit of defense, I
don't think that would have made it a whole much better.
It was like, oh, now now we have a great
All Star. You stipulate to what it is, right, it's
a let's hang out, let's laugh, let's have a joke
or two. Let's get out of here healthy and go
(12:25):
on vacation. Yeah, they but they took so much away
from it. They took once they took it away from
the Eastern and Western conferences. And you know, with this
whole let's pick teams and let's squad mix it up
a little bit, so nobody could actually know who was
picked last. And I don't know. We've messed with it
so much now I don't even know if there's a
way back to getting back to where it was. Well, well,
we don't have. And something I alluded to earlier in
(12:47):
the week, Arnie, is that you have the idea of
once upon a time, it was here's the Eastern Conference
and guys that don't like each other, but it's Michael
Jordan teaming up with Isaiah Thomas in the late and
the Celtics against the Lakers starting five was essentially and
here's the Keemalaijuan in the middle right. That was it?
(13:07):
Like those were the ad Patrick Ewing whatever. But you
had guys that legitimately battled in the playoffs and like
each other. Here it's like everybody's just happy to see
each other. It's a nice festive event and either watched
or you didn't, and if you didn't, you were with
the majority, just like regular season games. All Right, we're
bemoaning the ratings for the playoffs. Nobody's got a solution
(13:30):
on how to get people to watch regular season basketball. Yeah,
like that's the that's the first problem that you know
that's going to be the killer of the sport. Let
me tell you something. There's two sports nowadays. UM, there's
football and then there's everything else because um, basketball has
fallen in with baseball and soccer and hockey. It's just
a big miss Moss really for number two because everything
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is behind the NFL and for the most part college football. UM.
And they brought this on themselves. They went ahead and
they did load management. They've they've deemed the regular season
pretty much. It doesn't make a difference. So many teams
make the playoffs. There's the play in series. Mike, I'm
I'm I'm sick of what's happened to the NBA over
the last couple of years. Well, I know, because I
(14:13):
mean you're very well know one of the owners locally.
And that's we're gonna turn our attention to next because
we've got some great comments from coaching player to dissect,
and for me, it's handwringing and laughing, chuckling like a
madman in the background, like a Bond movie villain. Be
sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith Show
(14:34):
with Mike Harman weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven pm
Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. Hey,
welcome back in Fox Sports a Radio. Jason Smith. Yeall
with me, Mike Carmen here on a Wednesday night. No
Jason Smith, Arnie Spanier, the legend in his stead. Arnie,
I've already broken my headphones. I've been here for three minutes.
(14:56):
One of the giant foam inserts has gone off of
the right ear. I'll go to the wayside. We'll be
dealing with hard plastic up against my head the rest
of the night. I've had my headphones for ten years now,
so yeah, these are at about four One of them
is kind of duct taped in place so it doesn't
fall apart the other side. Though, all of a sudden,
there's the there's the foam. We'll stop get it to
(15:19):
get a good pair. It's been a little bit more,
you know it. Don't don't be so cheap now, well,
I mean they were. They weren't cheap when I bought them.
I mean I got four years out of him. You
get four years out of a pair of heads headphones
that you're trucking back and forth multiple days each week.
Here to the Fox Sports Radio Studios presented by Tirak
dot Com. I mean those those are pretty durable. Jason
(15:42):
just added a new pair. He looks like Lobot from
the uh Star Wars series. You know what that guy is? No,
I don't know. He's a bald dude that had like
this headset looking thing on him that these part Robot,
not they call them Lobot. Okay, you can look them up.
You don't do that immediately, I'll do it right, I'll
get right. Why you got to be so hateful and
(16:03):
serial so early? One of the Star Wars characters was
based on my English teacher? Is that right? Yes? Being
serious about that, that's what character is that I don't remember.
It's a big team because because the US like the
Emperor Catholic like a madman. While you were I'm struggling
with exam. I am not kidding around. You'll have to
look it up Google, and it says that because the
(16:24):
guy that did Star Wars went to our high school
and he based it on our English teacher, Rose Gilbert.
That's that was her name, Gilbert. And you put in
Star Wars, you know it will say a whole history there.
How about that? I told you? What do you think?
I just make stuff up? Yes, do you know who
I am? Do you know who I am? Which is
exactly why I questioned it all. Although I know your
(16:45):
high school connections, you got a lot of uh yes,
luminaries around. It was it was nutty. But yeah, the
guy who did Star Wars went through our high school
and he based one of the characters on our English teachers.
So that a lot of craziness in our high school.
All next, it's crazy stuff. I tell you. Hey, We're
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are the most important twenty three regular season games of
(17:26):
my life. Que the violin in the background, everything else. Now,
Darvin Ham comes over the top. He says, well, I'll
one up you. Now. It's all about winning. Do you
mean the first sixty games weren't. Yeah, they've got their
eye on the six seed. That's what they want. Currently,
(17:47):
Dallas sitting there at thirty one and twenty nine, a
lot of teams to jump over. The only two teams
in the West that you're stomping on are those two
teams out of Texas. Everybody else is in the mix. Oh,
and you have to pass everybody else along away while
trying to keep Lebron James Anthony Davis healthy. Now, we
may like some of the moves that were made maybe
inspired basketball ahead of the break, but that was a
(18:11):
couple of games ahead of the break. Let's see it
over twenty three games and see how many Lebron's available for.
And Anthony Davis, who he gave the side I make
us clearly he was looking in the mirror, so he
was challenging himself. I've got to be great. But also, hey,
Anthony Davis, you're gonna be there for the ride, right right?
He cannot, Darvin Ham, these are important. Yeah, you know what, Mike,
I have a better chance of dating supermodels before the
(18:32):
Lakers are gonna get to the number six seed. And
by the way, since you brought up Anthony Davis, what's
going on here? And it's more than just him sitting
on the side looking disinterested when Lebron was breaking the
scoring record, it's just not there. I mean, some people
have reported or one person reported that, and I wish
I remember who was that Lebron's holding a more accountable
and maybe there's a little bit of a rift if
(18:54):
we talked about it a couple of weeks ago. He's
got me to know him a little bit. Our buddy
Dan Woke joins us each week La Times writer and
a guy one of the few in the media world,
Jason Coleway, I think is there with him that can
match the smart snark that Smith and I bring on
a nightly basis. I was also going to say the
smarts let's just call ones. But twenty six points a game,
(19:18):
fifty six percent from the field, twelve point three rebounds
for game. But what Wiki was telling us in talking
to Davis is the frustration over losing now availability we
can get into that he's only played thirty five games
this year, so that's certainly you know, on Davis, he
can only be so upset if he can't go, and
whether he's staying fully in shape. Remember the great flap
(19:41):
going in the last year of how he hadn't touched
a basketball and all of those things. So the questions
of all right, are you doing everything you can to
be on the court. But then that night Lebron broke
Kareem's mark. The frustration was there because it was all
about getting the points, and then Lebron was injured towards
the end, heavy stress minutes trying to get to the
(20:03):
record and knock that out that night that he missed
the final four minutes. What did they do? They lost
that game? Yeah, and then he was unavailable. So some
of it from Waike was Davis was frustrated about that,
how the focus had kind of shifted to accelerating and
they lost games, not just one game. One part though,
right right, it just seems that there's something more going on,
(20:25):
and and you know, maybe we won't find that right now,
maybe we'll find that after the season, but you could
feel like there's some tension there sure. By the way, um,
you know, I'm so just on just la basketball. I'm
so glad that Russell Westbrook went to the Clippers. I'm
so rooting for this guy. I think the knock he's
got an immediate makes me sick to my stomach. And
I hope he just gets the last I hope he
(20:46):
gets the championship, gets to revenge on everybody. You know that.
You know what. There was a quote from Darwnham today.
I heard about the dress. Ridiculous Russell Westbrook. I appreciate
Russell everything, sacrificing, you know, complying with my vision of
him coming off the bench and having a wish him
going forward. And that's it. And that's it. Now, that
(21:08):
doesn't sound like that. That doesn't sound like a ringing
a doorsm That was what I had to say. By
the way, I wish Mike Carmen the future, and that's it.
That's all I wish. That's what I'm legally required to
give you exactly. Hey, did they work for your organization?
I can give you the dates and a yes. You
want any other information, Nope, you gotta find them more.
(21:31):
Come on, he sounds he just sounds bitter about it.
He just sounds that. But he's all about winning. His
focus is winning, now, Ernie, I mean that's what it's
all about. I mean, that's laser intensity, is what you
got there from Darvenham sarcasm. Bucket filling up early here
on a Wednesday. You should be the head coach of
the Clippers then, is well? But to your point about
(21:51):
Russell Westbrook, Right, the one thing we can always say
about Russ, whether you like his game, like the fit.
I think Smith and I we're kind of we we
butt heads about a lot of things. But one thing
I liked about Russell when they brought him in for
the Lakers was all right, if used in this capacity, Ie,
he's got the ball, he gets to move you, maybe
(22:13):
spare Lebron's legs a little bit and you get it. Well, well,
obviously that didn't happen, and that didn't work, so it
gets torn asunder. You've got a guy who's generally pretty
prickly with the local news and face it on a
grand scale. I mean, but most guys aren't very hard
on him. It's all becomes a perception thing, and it's
all a theory of relativity. But yeah, I mean, you
(22:35):
saw what was it about two weeks ago there was
someone that actually complimented in play. It was like a
five year old that it just been phrased for putting
his dishes the same because he's not used to it. Mike,
And you know, don't say they're not a hard on him.
Maybe they're not hard of him when they go ask
him questions, but they're hard on him on those TV
at debate shows and all that, and then they go out.
(22:56):
I was talking about the local media, right, You know,
you normally don't guys that are antagonistic most of the time, Mike,
because there are a former MVP in any league that's
ever gotten knocked as bad as Russell Westbrook. Maybe Aaron Rodgers,
but that's about it. I can't think of an MVP
that has been torn apart up the way people tear
apart Russell Westbrook. It's horrible, it really is. No women,
(23:19):
He's a guy and he's now well traveled former NBA MVP.
Triple Crown or Triple Hight. Yeah, Russell Westbrook that I
want to go crown. But that's baseball. Yeah, same same idea,
just different terminology, but just the idea. Like the one
thing for Russell Westbrook that you can always say is
(23:40):
you were going to get an honest effort. Did you
like the results? Maybe maybe not. But he's not a
guy that took days off, no load management, no opting
out of games. There was one instance, I think where
they had a little bit of a kerfuffle and he
took the night off, and I think that was more
team or you know, dictating than him. But he was
(24:01):
a guy that gave you an honest effort. And in
today's NBA, when you're praying that your superstar plays what
sixty games? He asked for sixty five? What's acceptable for you?
I would have to say sixty plause I would take
I would take sixty five. At this point, I'll take sixty. Yeah,
give me seventy five percent of the time. Yeah, yeah,
a shade under it. But you get my point if
(24:23):
you get me there and you're giving me your honest
effort for those seventy five percent. The way the NBA works,
you're making the playoffs in theory, and then you've given
yourself enough in the quote load management that you're ready
to play. Could you about the boss? Dot to? You?
Just give me a good three days a week and
that's all I hope you're working to negotiate. Got a
(24:44):
couple of years and just give you. Yeah, just give
me a good two hours a show and then take
the last hour off. I don't care. I got four
hours a night. You realize what, Yeah, because I don't
have one of those two hours show things. None of
that here. Get those fours up he's already span you're
in for Jason Smith on Mike Harman. Reminder that we're
coming to here live from the tirerac dot Com studios.
(25:05):
We'll continue in the NBA and talk of the second
half of the season or last third, or whatever you
want to do with it. It's all semantics at this point.
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harman weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific. We'll get back to the mystery of Arnie's teacher,
because I think I believe I know who it truly
(25:28):
is and it's not Charge Army. Okay, Well, we'll get
into that a little bit later, thanks, Brian. Want to
do We'll get back to the NBA and about twenty
minutes from now, we've got the relationships in media and
in your own working environments. You can pull this into
any space and office space that you work in. But
I wanted to take a minute on this Alabama situation. Yes, absolutely, Arnie,
(25:51):
as we've got some details out here and I'll just
go down to brass tacks and some of it. Of
all right, cooperative witnesses, the term being you did he
furnish the gun. Was he on the way? What the
role was in this process for Miller? If they weren't
number two in the nation, is he playing? No, he
(26:11):
is not. If they forget about if they're not number two,
if he's like the twelfth guy or you know, a guy,
he's not playing. A matter of fact, he may be
dismissed by the team, but he's not that he's he's
one of the stars. Um, that's why he's playing. Mike. Legally,
I don't think he's done anything wrong. Morally, he's done
something wrong, and maybe for the moral reasons is why.
(26:34):
Because it is a university, maybe he should not have
played this game. But they're not going to chance that.
It's one of the highest rankings Alabamas had in what
twenty twenty five years in basketball. I'm saying so um,
but the whole thing is just horrible because let's let's
not forget the fact that a twenty three year old
young woman lost her wife and this whole thing, and
that's where the whole thing is clouded. Um. Legally, I
(26:58):
can't say he's done anything wrong league a matter of fact,
I don't think he's has but morally could have been
a good reason maybe to sit them out this game. Quote.
Our role in a criminal investigation is support law enforcement,
not to conduct our own investigation, and not to interfere
with their efforts. Although we're not investigators, we do have
a duty to evaluate whether anyone involved in our program
(27:18):
has violated the rules, policies, or standards of the university.
We make that evaluation based on facts. Yes, you see,
like if you get caught cheating, you don't go to jail.
Like if I said, hey, Mike, I don't know I
cheated on a test today, I don't go to jail
for that. But you get thrown out of university. Okay,
there's definitely you get into letter and spirit of your
(27:40):
exactly and your code of conduct. And certainly when you're
a representative of the university, as you are being a
member of an athletic team, particularly one of this stature,
then certainly the rules of engagement come into play and
the university and the coach you know, put his foot
in his mouth the other day and he a terrible
(28:02):
apology to her, horrible in that regard. So it's but
you're handed kind of handling of what he is a
terrible circumstance. But as you said earlier, that there's the answer.
If he's the last guy on the bench, forget about
even playing. He may have been dismissed from the team
or suspended for a couple of games. That's how you
know if the punishment is correct or not correct, or
(28:25):
if they're bending over backwards to protect him, if the
last guy in the bench gets a different punishment than
the first guy in the bench. And I know that
happens in a lot of programs, but that's how you
know that a guy probably should not have been on
the team today. Our hope is, of course, obviously, that
justice is done and that they find some comfort and
the victim and her family, her friends and those who
(28:48):
loved her. We'll keep an eye on this as more
information develops. Game being played as we speak right now,
you've got Alabama and South Carolina getting after it. To
lighter topics, yes, and that of relationships. What are they fraid?
What are they just nice working relationships where you just
say congratulations on a job done. He's already spanning. You're
(29:11):
in for Jason Smith on Mike Carmen and this It's
Fox Sports Radio. Be sure to catch live editions of
the Jason Smith Show with Mike harmon weekdays at ten
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the iHeartRadio app. As I hit the wrong button coming
back trying to finish off a conversation with Ty Shirt,
I was having a point and it kind of bleeds
(29:31):
into this next topic. As we're going here, Alex Tisher,
Brandon trumpa behind the glass making a sound oh so pretty,
Welcome back in Jason Smith Show with me, Mike Carmen.
There's no Jason Smith tonight. It's the stinking genius himself. Yes,
Arnie Spanner. You hear him every weekend alongside Chris Plank.
And that goes straight into the story that we're going
to talk about here, and it's one that you brought
(29:52):
to my attention a little bit earlier talking about, well,
let's face it, in our media world, whenever guys get
a little agitated with each other on air men women,
there's there's going to be maybe some beef. And one
of those has happened over and at best one you
had the rumored beef, some of it playing out on
(30:15):
camera between Shannon Sharpe and Skip Bayliss, right, And it's
always the question of what's real, what's imagined, some of
it bleeding over. Maybe you're you're doing a topic you
have no desire to. Maybe you don't feel heard. I
certainly know Smith and I were now in year ten
of our show together Arnie with amazing how fast the
(30:36):
time goes, you know, Like I came in this morning,
we did the Dan Patrick Show, blessed to be part
of the rotation to go in And I don't take
any of it for granted. It's been a long road.
You and I go back a long ways here on
Fox Sports Radio, blessed and know your guya listened to
guys still will pop in every now and again just
to hear you yell if especially if I know it's
(30:57):
something you're gonna get fired up about. It's well, which
is everything, but it's just the idea that you have
that longevity in history with someone like Smith and I.
There are times where it's like, all right, it's the
Jets again. I'm done with this, right right, right right,
I'm already done with Derek Carr. If I had money,
I'd be funneling whatever I could to David Carter, just say,
(31:19):
would you get your brother to sign somewhere anywhere, go
to the XFL. I don't care, just I don't want
to talk about where what he's planning to do anymore.
And sometimes there'll be a moment right the rest of
your world while you try to leave it outside the doors.
If you're having a stressful day, your kids are having
a little trouble with a class at school, something stressing
(31:41):
them out. You know, you've got relationship, maybe your friends
are having some issues that you're talking before you come in.
Sometimes that comes in and it bleeds in right as
we well know. You try to leave stuff out of
the office, but it finds its way in. And if
there's a topic that we don't want to talk about,
I might get a little snippy, might be a little
more chesty about how terrible the Jets or Mets are.
(32:04):
And it's not personal. It's just all right, you're the outlet,
and you're gonna get a little bit of my venting.
And that's the way it works. And I got to
imagine to some degree, which Shannon and Skip, that's the
way it goes. Particularly if you don't feel heard or
someone's repeating the same argument that you've heard before. It
might have been six months ago, but it's there and
(32:25):
fresh in your mind, made for you and Plank. You
guys have been working together forever. We've been working together
for ten years. We've never met face to face. How's
that working out for you? Have you? At least it's
at least working out good for Plank. I know that.
But yeah, ten years out to eleven years now, and
we have never ever been in the same room together.
We've never been face to face and you've never made
(32:45):
the effort to do it either. It's not even face
time each other, not even so nothing we've you know what.
And the reason obviously you're bringing up is because shadd
had said that he's not really good friends with Skip
off the TV, off the air, and you know, sometimes
um that works out. I mean, look at Mike and
the mad Dog. They didn't even talk to each other
(33:07):
during the breaks. Sometimes I just read that Regis in
the article that Regis said there's no talking during the
break saving for on the air. Sometimes you're just not
you know, you got your own family, Mike, you got kids,
you got daughters. You know, you got things to do.
You can't you're on with this guy four hours a night.
You have other stuff you have to get to when
(33:28):
you get home, so you can't really make time for him.
You gotta make time for your own family. But yeah,
you know that a lot of people be surprised. I
think a lot of relationships are like that when it
comes to TV teams or radio teams like you and Jason.
You know, yeah, I think I think it bleeds back.
And for everybody out there listening, wherever you are, we
appreciate you being part of the extended family as we
(33:50):
come to you live from the tire Act dot Com
studios of Fox Sports Radio here in southern California. If
you're on the highways and byways, be safe, get to
your destination, get to your loved ones. You can continue
those relationships right, but at work. Right Maybe in your twenties,
you're single, you got a group of folks. They start
together and it's you're taking over an area together and
(34:10):
you're learning that city or the suburbs, or how to
get to and from on public trend whatever it is
you've got, you know, like minded. In terms of your
musical taste, maybe you get a little bit of culture
in the theater. Maybe you like going to concerts, the
local bars, whatever it is, you can miserate. Bit by bit,
people couple up, they splinter off. Maybe they decide the
(34:32):
bar life isn't for them. They'd rather just sit at
home and stream something, or maybe they're twitch gamers or
whatever the case may be. Netflix and chill. All of
those things come into play where people hit different phases
than their lives. And the dependency on the relationships outside
of the forty fifty hours that you're spending together in
(34:53):
the office, isn't there. Well, people think like you would
you and Jason to like probably carpool to work together,
or go out to dinner afterwards or something like that
every night, or when you're done with the work. Well,
once in a while, I mean there will be a
card pool situation at the car. And when we had
Karma Eddon a couple of years ago, that's the name
they gave to it, and it was taking two and
a half hours to get to work. Oh my god. Well,
(35:16):
I mean that's twenty miles two and a half hour.
And this is a pre pandemic. Right. We've been blessed
with technology and stuff and the beautiful com rex machines
that allow us to connect from our homes and eventually
occasionally there's a little bit of a hiccup here and
there internet connections. I know the winds in southern California
have been affecting the viability of such this week, But
(35:38):
just the idea of all right, we don't have to
look at each other for four hours a night. Right.
You know, he's got a daughter, I've got two, and
we commiserate a little bit on that. We talk about
films and television. But to your point of, hey, keep
it for the show, the regious line, Well, that's part
of it. It's got to stay fresh if you've exhausted all.
Part of it is letting people into your persona and
(35:59):
your personal life to a degree so they get to
know you. So why do it off air and they
try to recreate it. I don't want to go out
to dinner with you, talk to you two hours about
something in sports, and then come back to next morning
and do the same two hours with no hours again.
You know, no, absolutely, which is why as soon as
we hang up tonight, I'll talk to you the next
time you go host Never he's already spanned your in
(36:21):
for Jason Smith tonight. Find him on Twitter at stink
and genius one. Find me over at Swollen Dome. As
we continue here on Fox Sports Radio from the tirerac
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