February 23, 2023 • 46 mins
In tonight’s edition of the Best of the Jason Smith Show, Mike Harmon and Arnie Spanier open the show discussing the Lakers playoff implications going into the final stretch of the season. The guys try to navigate what Derek Carr’s future holds for him, and how it will impact Zach Wilson if he does end up signing with the Jets. Plus, the guys debate about NBA players resting for load management, and the prices of tickets.
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This is the best of the Jason Smith Show with
Mike Harmen on Fox Sports Radio. Yeah, that is right,
Welcome back in. It is another beautiful night here Fox
Sports Radio from the tire Rack dot Com Studios. No,
Jason Smith tonight taken the second half of the doubleheader off.
It's like a back to back in the NBA. He
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decided he needed a little bit of load management. He'll
be back tomorrow. So you heard us this morning in
for Dan Patrick and the Fellas, and now back here
I am alongside the stinking genius himself, my guy, Arnie Span,
your radio legend well and one of the great antagonists
in our business is history. What's up? I I didn't
know you were driving tonight. I'm you threw me off
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a loop there. I thought I was gonna be driving tonight.
I cackling of a madman less than two minutes, and
there is nothing better than that. Hey, come on my
show and I want to drive. Well, yeah, technically I
am filling in for Jason, and Jason drives, so I
I just don't know when he's not here. Those are
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the dynamics you want to take it up with Shapiro. Okay, No,
that's okay. I there's a there's a there's a list.
We we can have the list altered, stinking genius. You know,
it's like the depth chart thing at uh, you know,
Friday Night Lights when Billy Bob Thornton is uh flipping
guys into the trash. Can we got to do those
things here in Fox Sports? Raining you feeling? You feeling
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for Dan Patrick? So you're double duty? Yeah yeah, So
tomorrow I'll be off an opportunity to go take my
older daughter to a theater opportunity here locally. She follows
out of Michigan, that's out here for a couple of
weeks putting on a show, so the theater or something like, no, no,
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I forget what that No, no, no, it's it's it's
fac safe for worth kind of uh name, I don't
even think. But yeah, no, she's she's big into theater
at her high school. They're they're working on lay Misser
Rob for the Spring musical and all that fun stuff.
But yeah, I'm I'm a cultured man. I'm not just
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all about wrestling, I mean, which is culture and of itself.
But between wrestling and all of our sticking ball store
sports and uh, learning more and more about the the
racing world, and certainly I know my way around a
paramutual wager or two for the hornest, hardest racing and
horse racing. Uh So, yeah, I've got it all a world. Now,
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you're usually one of the more cultured sports talk hosts
at this network. There's no doubt about that. I spent
a lot of money on education that they admit that.
I had to go to a lot of au and
learned the ropes in a lot of different ways, aren't
he so? Uh? And yet it still led me into
a radio studio because I went back to what I
loved as opposed to what I trained to do. Yeah,
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I just looked into this job. So I don't think
they actually know. Yeah, I don't even think they've been
faking it for a long time and as long as
a check shows up based on what you do with
Plank on Sundays and coming and hanging out with me
now and again, it's all good, my brother. I love it.
I love it. How about it? I get the filling
with you with Dan Patrick? What you see, I have
rules against me. I don't know if the people know this.
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I'm not allowed to be on the air when the
sun's up. I'm not allowed to be in the studio
with another host, obviously for certain reasons, because I'm not
liked And the last time I was in there or
not liked, yeah, I was in the studio almost through
my co host through some glass windows. Well, I mean
sometimes that's gonna happen. I mean, that's it. We'll get
into the relationship of co hosts coming up about forty
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minutes from now, because of a story that you sent
my way. Yeah, and it is an interesting one, and
it's not to labor the point of those particular hosts,
but it's a pull the curtain back a little bit
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A high rate of speed is a bad idea. Yeah,
I'm about to get about ten to twelve inches of
snow in just the next year, eight to ten hours.
So if you're gonna have your wife out there shoveling
like no condition, but don't make me be the bad
guy here. What people don't know is for her birthday,
I bought her the deluxe shovel that's curved with the
foam handle and nice. Come on, I wouldn't just ergonomically
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designed and figured you paid for the extra fitting, like
it was a nice set of golf clubs monogram. Let
me come on the whole thing. It's like the Lamborghini
of shovels. No, it is something when we were growing up.
People would got to laugh because my mom was so
particular about the lawn right every like wouldn't even let
us mow the lawn. And then we'd be allowed to
still go play whiffleball and tear it all up, which
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was the most asinine thing. You won't let me run
the lawnmower haphazardly because you want to clean. But an
hour later, me and eight of my jackass buddies can
be out here trampling everything, creating divots and digging holes
with our sneakers as we'd try to turn a double play.
I don't understand it. I love that. That was a
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big thing. We've not whipflebabble, but we used to play stickball.
So there, yeah, there you go. That was hard. Now
you're aging yourself, giving yourself an extra decade. Good for you,
Good for you, my friend. Well, we got a lot
in the hopper tonight. You certainly were up early before
I was even on air on the Dan Patrick Show.
Text ideas, we've traded a lot of great stories. There's
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a lot going on. Don't let anybody tell you otherwise,
just because it's only college basketball. By the way, I'd
be remiss if I didn't note that Syracuse got drummed again.
Bye Jimmy, Jimmy and somewhere the ears of Jason Smith
and many others in the media just perked up as
they lose to Clemson. But we pushed that aside because
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you know, we talk a lot about our consumption of sports,
our habits and what we have, and nothing bigger than
the culmination of an NFL season and the hundred thirteen million,
hundred eighteen million depending on look how much you believe
the measurements to begin with, but let's just take them
for face value. One hundred and thirteen million for the
game and then the look you lose that came on
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board to watch Rihanna lipsync and go through some of
the greatest hits before you added them to your Spotify
playlists and other things, which was great. Like I'm not
denigrating it, it is what it is. I recognize the
business of it all. Good job by her, but the
recognition of there's your high point of everybody gathered around
that like we used to way back in the day
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when we only had a couple of networks. And now
this week's all about bemoaning ratings in the XFL I'll look,
they're half of what they were last time. And then
the NBA All Star Game was gone. How much of
that did you watch, Arnie? Well, you know, I had
it on, but I wasn't watching like it used to
watch when I was younger. If that's what you're asking.
If I didn't have to watch for the show, I
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wouldn't even have had it on. I would have had
a movie or something like that, or maybe watched the
college game or an NHL game in it was something
that I And by the way, the ratings were low, Mike,
not because of the bad play that was out there.
It's because people didn't tune in and then tune out,
and so this is horrible. They were tuning out, but
they were they never tuned in exactly. They didn't even
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tune in because they were disinterested. Because they know the
players are disinterested. They didn't even have to see the
bad play to know that they didn't even want to
watch this game. You know. Well, but that's the thing
that confuses me. I mean, because the last couple of days,
all you've heard is a litany of people go on
and on and on about and certainly in your social media,
sports radio television bleeding into general media talking about how
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terrible the game was, Like, well, how do you comment
on it when when most of you didn't watch it?
The ratings would tell me most of you didn't watch.
I saw most of the first half, and then my
daughters and I said, forget it, let's go see aunt Man.
So we went and watched the ant Man movie, which
was pretty cool. Uh and it was a nice escape
and whatever I didn't nap it was great. I was
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really proud of myself. I stayed away for the whole movie,
despite being up really early, Up with the Sun, Gone
with the Wind, as Bob Seeger sang so many years ago.
But I watched the beginning of it. I saw a
little bit of the pre game, for which I've been
openly mocked on these airwaves over the last couple of days. Well,
what would have made it better? Mike, though? What it
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would have been better if they would have played some defense?
Would that? I mean? What did they play a one
quarter of man? If you want me to stick around
like I'm curious, like I'm a curious sort. And obviously
for the show, as you refer to, aren'tie is you
pay attention to a little of it. You watched Jannie.
Is he gonna play? Is he not? While he comes out,
he gets his little lay in dunk and then he
goes no, no, no. But but I mean, it's a
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cavalcade of stars. But you're looking for some semblance of
a basketball game. But here's the thing. Here's there's the
joke is on folks that we're expecting that they haven't
done that in years. Yeah, it's been like I joked
with we talked with Rick Bucker with this morning and
I'm like, well, here's how you add some extra flavor
to it. Guess what, guys, because nobody plays defense. You
don't want to participate in the dunk contest. You're part
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of the dunk contest right now? Ha ha That three
sixty you just did. That guy behind the bench there,
he's gonna tell you what your score is. And now
we have an in game competition and you can't opt
out because you already dunked you know part of it.
Sometimes you just can't fix it. You know. Maybe the
ideas and I brought this up on Sunday, when we
have to bear through this game, maybe it's time that
if you're not going to go ahead and play for
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the fans, and the fans don't care anymore. Maybe we
just got to make it about charity. Maybe we got
to go ahead and find out a way that every
player gets one million dollars donated to their charity, and
you know, we take thirty million dollars or whatever it is,
and we do something like that. Maybe if we can't
go ahead and have a decent game or anything like that,
let's turn the weekend around. Let's let's do something about
it instead of just complaining how the ratings are awful. Yeah,
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I think when we get get down that road, aren'tie
guys already have their foundations and whatever I know, and
their tax shelter whatever else they've set up. So the
the motivation for an extra million when you're making a
hundreds of millions off your shoes, I like, I like
it in theory, right, And and that's where're at. You're
we're always trying to fix it. You know. It's kind
of like it's kind of like care about the regular season,
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you know, kind of like the Iowa football games when
they wave to the kids in the hospital last together.
You know, if we do something like that where they
do something for the kids or something, and we raise
twenty five or thirty million dollars. Each owner gives a
million dollars. If we're not going to go and play hard,
if if we're just gonna take four or five days off,
why not take one day to go ahead and make
sure that they're they're making the most productive of their
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time and doing something like that. I don't know. Again,
if we're not doing it for the fans, do it
for something else that. Yeah, what I thought was interesting
is you know, some of the pregame and bleeding in
I thought was a good job because a lot of
it's and it should be as you try to do
one of these parties, and that's what it is, a
big corporate event, right, just a week leading to the
super Bowl. It's the all the sponsors, all the brands,
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everybody's in the house. But you also get to do
some of the history lessons, right, So you saw some
of the vignettes before post malone was out there. My
daughter looked at me at one point as we're sitting
there having dinner watching it. We don't have any sound on.
She goes, are they're gonna play basketball eventually? Yeah? I
don't know if actually it's gonna And then they started
playing and she goes, wait, this is worse than the
defense that wasn't played when I played lacrosse a couple
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of years ago, where you couldn't check, you couldn't hit.
It was basically, if you got control of the ball,
you got to run from one end to the other,
and as long as you didn't fumble it, you could
shoot it at the goalie. The same thing here is
because nobody's stepping away. And it was funny that the
one time Lebron James did try to play defense, he
hurt his finger. Yes exactly, you know, but it wasn't
even about the defense. Like I said, if they would
have played a little bit of defense, I don't think
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that would have made it a whole much better. We
was like, oh, now now we have a great All Star.
You stipulate to what it is, right, it's a let's
hang out, let's laugh, let's have a joke or two.
Let's get out of here healthy and go on vacation. Yeah,
they but they took so much away from it. They
took once they took it away from the Eastern and
Western conferences, and you know, with this whole let's pick
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teams and let's squead mix it up a little bit
so nobody could actually know who was picked last. And
I don't know, we've messed with it so much now
I don't even know if there's a way back to
getting back to where it was. Well, well, we don't have.
And something I alluded to earlier in the week, Arnie,
is that you have the idea of once upon a time,
it was here's the Eastern Conference and guys that don't
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like each other, but it's Michael Jordan teaming up with
Isaiah Thomas in the late end. The Celtics against the
Lakers starting five was essentially and here's the Kamalaijuan in
the middle, right. That was it? Like those were the
ad Patrick Ewing whatever. But you had guys that legitimately
battled in the playoffs and like each other. Here it's
like everybody's just happy to see each other. It's a
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nice festive event and either watched or you didn't, and
if you didn't, you were with the majority, just like
regular season games. All Right, we're bemoaning the ratings for
the playoffs. Nobody's got a solution of how to get
people to watch regular season basketball. Yeah, like that's the
that's the first problem that you know that's going to
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be the killer of the sport. Let me tell you something.
There's two sports nowadays. Um, there's football and then there's
everything else because um, basketball has fallen in with baseball
and soccer and hockey. It's just a big miss Moss
really for number two because everything is behind the NFL
and for the most part college football. UM. And they
brought this on themselves. They went ahead and they did
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load management. They've they've deemed the regular season pretty much.
It doesn't make a difference. So many teams make the playoffs.
There's the play in series. Mike, I'm i'm I'm I'm
sick of what's happened to the NBA over the last
couple of years. Well, I know, because I mean you
very well know one of the owners locally. And that's
we're gonna turn our attention to next because we've got
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some great comments from coaching player to dissect. And for me,
it's handwringing and laughing, uh, chuckling like a madman in
the background, like a Bond movie villain. Folly Fusco here
with Tony Fusco. Yo, as you all know. We're the
host of the number one rated show and all the
sports talk the Folly and Tony Fusco Shop numero o, No, yeah,
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and we know why millions of people tune in every week.
They want to hear us talk sports, not idiot guests
who think they know more about sports than we. Though,
he ain't listened to these dummies. You don't know crap about.
This is the worst thing. He's still on the way
off the shop. You don't. If you want to hit
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He's in Jason Smith. Smith will be back tomorrow night.
He took the back end of a day night doubleheader off.
It's like a catcher. His knees were a little so ecaded.
He needed the night off. Can't blame him for that
good game going on with South Carolina Alabama in overtime.
South Carolina actually now tied with a little over three
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minutes left, about three and a half minutes left and overtime.
Good game. Now, well we're hitting that point in the year.
Also paying more attention to the college bucket world. Just
a couple of weeks from March Madness. My team actually
gonna dance for this second time in team history, aren't
I know that? That's quite a run. I know they were.
It was a long time coming the first time, but
they've had a good year this year. Chris Collins a
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guy that folks thought at the end of last year
there might have been an agreement to say congratulations on
a job done and that he'd move on. He had
some transfer issues this off season. Instead, Boo Booie and company.
Audi's one of the great defenders in the game getting
it done. So have fun time from my beloved Northwestern Wildcats. There.
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I got my thirty five seconds. That's all I'm allotted.
That's right. It's not about the Mets, Jets or Aaron Rodgers.
So we have to move on. Are We went a
full hour and twenty four minutes our twenty five before
mentioning Aaron Rodgers in his Darkness retreat. We've had some
fun with it over the last couple of weeks, aren'ty?
I know you and Plank I'm certainly talking about it
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as he is a Raiders fan and keeping his eye
and trying to stay abreast of what's going on in
that part of things. But one of the reports that
had gotten out, and this was Bob McGinn, who's covered
the team forever, talking about it's irreparable. The Packers are
done with this, They're tired of his act. And obviously
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I'm just kind of paraph paraphrasing his reports, but more
or less saying, hey, they've all but moved on from
Aaron Rodgers. Well, Tom Pella Sero, you know if NFL
Network said quote, if he wants to return to Green
Bay and as long as he's fully bought in, Packers
want him back, said that on the Rich Eyes and Show.
It's something that we certainly had this morning. Something Jason
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Cole said to us as well, rights for OutKick, pro
Football Hall of Fame voter just saying, don't believe some
of the noise, And obviously that's one of the things
Rogers said before on the Pat McAfee show, one of
his last appearances, when he railed against NFL insiders and
kind of went into his hey, his circle of trust
more or less. Have you ever seen the movie, you know,
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Meet the Fockers, And yeah, yeah, of course, yeah, yeah,
circle of trust and Aaron Rodgers more of us, intimating
than anybody that would betray any of his confidences. You'd
be out of that circle of trust really fast, do
you know what? Even And I understand that, Mike, but
you know what, if you have conflicting reports here, which
we do, you gave one on one and one on
the other, well, then now it comes to common sense
for people like you and me and the listeners out there.
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And all I could do is put myself in the
situation of the Packers, and put myself in the situation
of Aaron Rodgers. And you know what, if I was
the Packers, I would be fed up with him. And
if Bob Rodgers, I probably want to go somewhere else. Also,
I think it's a divorce a long time coming, and
I think it boils down to now. And like I said,
putting yourself in the Packers situation, they already have a
quarterback in Jordan Love. I would think that they'd be
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happy to move on from Aaron Rodgers and that got
off a contract that they're paying him and go in
another direction. They didn't make the playoffs. If they could
lose with Aaron Rodgers, they could certainly lose without him.
I would just think that they'd want to go in
a different direction. Yeah. I think the big thing was
the expectation that if we gave all this money, that
you'd show up and you'd work with the young receivers
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and that you try to build well. I mean, you
had back to back failures deep in the playoffs after
MVP seasons, right, some of that He and La Fleur
been saying it for years that there's not a whole
lot of trust and respect in some ways there going
all the way back to when Roger said, oh, you
want to kick the field goal, Fine, I'm not gonna
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fight you keep the ball back to Tom Brady. Sure,
this is smart. Yeah, that's one of the things I've
always been disappointed in Rogers on like, Look, he's in
the same division with the Bears, and I've got a
bottle of champagne on ice for the day that he leaves,
because at least in theory, for a moment, you could
say they break the chain of thirty plus years of
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him and Brett Farve, and then Jordan Love will show
up and he'll dominate the Bears. To ye. But but
the idea being that we've watched this all along and
you had those circumstances where like, here's your opportunity to
show you're the leader of the team, to say I
command that we go for it here, that we take
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care of business instead of making it and giving Tom
Brady an opportunity to come get us. No, you know what,
let me ask you this, Mike, if you had a chance,
if you're Aaron Rodgers, if you think about it, if
you were going to go through like the top five
places that would be perfect for Aaron Rodgers, I think
Green Bay would probably be like third or fourth, if
not even fifth on that list. I think going to
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the Raiders. I'm not saying it's going to happen, but
I think going to the Raiders would be a better
fit going to the Jets. I think with actually, why
why are those the NFC in terms of power structure
stinks right now? Well, you can say well, first of all,
the AFC East, it's not like it's that daunting. I mean,
the Patriots are going in the wrong direction, and right
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now the Jets are not a playoff team. It was
just Miambi and Buffalo and Buffalo's being but it's not
away and the Patriots are gonna be a five hundred
team every year, aren't he Well, there's no you know, rollovers,
they'll be lucky if they're gonna be a five hundred team. Yes,
maybe you're you're right, and it's still the Jets. It'd
be easier for him, But I think it'd be a
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better fit for him in New York with his attitude,
get out of small time Green Bay and see if
they can go build a little bit of an offense
around him and get some receivers around them now that
he doesn't have at him, So I think that'd be
a better fit for him also, And certainly go into
Vegas and um having them reunite there. That'd be a
great place for him too. But you're still playing in
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that division. I don't think Denver is gonna be And
we got a great story from Russell Wilson that, yeah,
just about fifteen minutes but Denver will be better with
Jahn the Chargers if they ever hire a training staff
that can keep guys on the field. Look out, they've
got all stars all over. And then you still got
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Kansas City. And remember you're still the Raiders. You still
have to fix that defense and offensive line does and
he's gonna be forty. So anybody thinking that it's a
quick fix with him showing up, that's a whole other
part to this. Let me ask you where you stand
real quick, since you just mentioned that division our head
coach is important to you, or coordinator is important to you,
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or no to a degree. So I mean, but I
need the guy to get things started. Well, I just
didn't know if you thought that maybe Kansas City was
going to take a step backwards because Eric Piomy is
now gone. Well, I mean, I know it doesn't put
Matt Naggey in a more prominent position of power with
Chicago guy. Seems to me like that's problematic. But as
long as Andy Reid's still there to cut off any
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of his domfooler, It'll be okay. You can't keep taking
away bricks and bricks and bricks and hope the building
doesn't fall. You took away Tyreek Kill. Now you've taken
away the offensive coordinator. Sooner or later, it's going to you.
Don't I like that? Well, sooner or later. That was
what everybody did with Tom Brady for a decade after
he turned thirty five. Don't tell track apart man, don't
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tell Kelsey on me. I yell at me. At the
end of the season, you they were this second betting
favorite that it was the most insane, inane argument being made.
I just look at it from a division standpoint. I
like what Detroit is building, but they're not there yet.
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The Bears have a lot of work to do. What
whether they keep fields or not. But they have one
hundred million dollars to go out and spend. They've got
number one pick. There's a lot, and that's the part
that's but do you pick it right? Especially you look
at the histories of these teams, and yes, this is
the first time for the Bears. It's not McCaskey family
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that's making the decisions. It's an outside guy with a history.
Was in Kansas City and the rookie class looked like
it was all right, you got a couple of component parts. Look,
obviously you need to go get wide receivers, but you're
gonna have to overpay. It's kind of like when Christian
Kirk signed with Jacksonville. You're gonna have to come up
with a really big check. Why the reputation at Chicago
is where receivers go to die. I'm one there where
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some of these secondary quarterbacks are gonna end up like
a Jimmy Garoppolo. And I mean it looks like Daniel
Jones gonna stay in New York. But how much money
are they going to pay him? Um? He wants what
like forty wants forty five million dollars? Yeah, good luck
to you, you know what I mean. But you know
what you could ask right what it's like when you
were before, before you got married. You asked out a
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lot of girls. What's the worst? They could say? And no,
but that's a lot of money to do, you know
what I mean? Though, like you look at it and
look you go deeper into the math of what they
did in New York. Wasn't an overwhelming offense by any
that a very easy schedule too. I schedule was in
their favor. Barkley had a good year. He went fifteen.
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Where's Barkley gonna go, I mean the betting favorite if
he doesn't get a franchise tag, because David Montgomery's probably
gonna be gone. Khalil Herbert coming back off an injury.
So earlier this week I saw that they were plus
three fifty. We'll get into this later on, but I
said that the we got yeah, yeah, we'll get into
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the running back. Running back is pretty much antiqua. It's useless.
I mean, let's be honest. I mean, the top running
backs for the last six years, their teams have done
absolutely nothing. They've not even been a Super Bowl threat.
To these running backs that have been so good, the
running back position is like the old center position um
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in the NBA. It's just not needed anymore to go
ahead and win a championship or to win a Super Bowl.
Now you have the position less NBA, and you got
guys that are seven feet that are actually skilled. Yeah,
give the shoot guard. Likewise, running backs here, like I
don't think their value is gone, and we'll have this
discussion we get over. No, no, no, because the reason
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it is a lot of teams rely on them as receivers.
Talking about the Giants right in sa Quon Barkley Biggier
running the football. He was tied for their team lead
and receptions. Well, he's one that like that. But there's
a bunch of guys that are like to get Austin Eckler.
You had over one hundred catches sunk. He's got no
Miles laf No unless he comes back to me on
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a greatly reduced salary and recognizes he's the number two guy,
which he should have been in Dallas the whole time. Right,
I hope for well, you go find another running back
in the draft, is what that? Or you find another
guy in free agency does exactly the same amount of money, right, Yeah,
the contract for Ezekiel Elliott. And it goes back to
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the larger Jerry Jones consideration. We did a deep dive
last night, find the podcast wherever you get your audio.
Jason Spitshew with me Mike harmon Um, a deep dive
on the whole Dak Prescott situation, right because they're open
Leo pining about the quarterback position in the draft and
everything else. And you look at Dak Prescott's contract, this
is the last year where the dead cap number is prohibitive.
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It's at like eighty nine million, dollars next year it's
thirty nine, which is not something that doesn't make you
a little bit, doesn't. But it's not awful. I got
a grand scale anymore. That's not the worst of the world.
You just mentioned that Gatti number. If it wasn't for
that Cotty number. If it was if the Cowboys could
get rid of Dak Prescott without paying a big penalty,
I bet you they would do it this year and
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go on as there's a lot of other quarterbacks that
could take over him for this year. But they can
because you mentioned the contract situation. I think mentally that
Dallas Cowboys are done with that Prescott. I would like
to go in a different direction. They just can't because
of the contract. Right. Well, but it's a tough spot,
right for what how they constructed their squad this year
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that you have Pollard, you have Elliott. You tried to
cobble together your defense. That's fine. You've got some great
component parts in that defense, right, A generational guy Trevon Diggs.
You've got guys in that back seven that can get
after it and guys up front, and you paid for it.
But when you look at your offense, you had Ceedee
(27:58):
Lamb and you had Dalton Sholl. You can certainly, but
that's the point, right, you had two players and all
your other receivers that you had on staff, guys you drafted,
guys coming back off injuries, are guys you brought in
didn't perform right. James Washington was supposed to come in,
All right, here's an opportunity. He's not buried on the
Steeler's depth chart. He gets hurt and he never sees
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the light of day. Michael Gallup comes back, has a
couple of flashes, but has no consistency keep on going
down the line. You had no consistency of another threat.
And I'm not trying to make excuses for Dak Prescott.
I'm just calling it what it is. You know, you're
devoid of talent. Goes back to the Daniel Jones thing.
What do you see on tape? Do you think that
with a little bit of time with Brian Dable and
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a receiver that you spend a little bit of money
on and actually get it right? Because this is where
I go to my GM hat for an army is
like there's certain teams that you don't get to pick
certain positions right in Indianapolis, Ballard doesn't get to pick
a quarterback. He gets to the rest of the roster.
Someone else does that. In Baltimore they don't get to
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pick wide receivers. They can pick whoever else, but they
don't get to pick wide receivers. Likewise, in New York
and in Dallas, you don't get to pick wideouts anymore.
Well you talk about whiteouts. Can you use one guy?
I don't know if he's really good. He's a tremendous
guy of the Cowboys, but not at the wide receiver position.
I'm talking about Turpin, who's the kick returner, who's just explosive. Um.
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But Hester, where he's a great returner, and then you
try to make him a wide receiver. He doesn't work.
He'd not even have the receiver that Devin Hester is
so um, that's the question. Can he, you know, be
the receiver that the Cowboys are looking for? The pubbly
have to go and bolster that up. And I'm still
curious to see what they're gonna do about the powered
situation if they franchise Dag him, and what they're gonna
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do about Ezekiel Elliott. Now a lot of moving parts
and certainly a division that used to be the least
and they're interesting, right even Washington. Are they great? No,
but they've got some parts to that team that are
in interesting. And if Sam Howell, who's their guy right now,
I can do anything with. They've got a good running
back and you've got McLaurin. You've got two pieces to
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help that offense move, and you know they can coach
up defense a little bit, so at least keeps you
curious as we go through. Be sure to catch live
editions of The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harman weekdays
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Radio and the iHeartRadio app. Welcome in Final hour of
the program and nine Arnie Spaniard the Power Hour, as
(30:32):
you like to call. But no, no, no, the Power
Hours last time. Oh what is the bonus hour? Bonus?
This is every damn night here. I know, I don't
know how You're four hours is just way too much
because I'm a powerful and attractive man and I just
keep going. Alex has me on the right diet. I'm
not consuming a bunch of sugar here in the final hours,
(30:53):
a little bit of caffeine, a lot of water and
I'm ready to go, and I'm watching movies about vampires
and highlights. Are watching games? Are you watching anything like?
Instead of the All Star Game? I was watching a
new series. I can't remember the name of it. It
has Sissy Spacek in it, and um, what's that guy
that slaps another guy in the face because of the
(31:15):
drums or something? I forget the name of the movie.
You know JK. Simmons is in there. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
he's in it. I mean he was in La La Land.
He fired and said you're fight. He was j Jonah
Jamison and Spider Man. So you don't know what I'm
serious series making about. No, no, oh, it's a good
one man. It's like futuristic and they do space travel
(31:38):
Nights Sky, Yes, that's it. Yes, Night Sky had no idea.
Irene and Franklin York have kept secret a chamber that
leads to a deserted planet, but the arrival of an
enigmatic young man up ends their quiet existence. Yeah, that
sounds like something I could watch. You would like it,
I'm telling you should. You should check it out out.
(31:58):
You would like I dig that. You know what I've
been watching U Shrinking on Apple TV. I've not seen that.
Jason Siegel Miller and Harrison Ford. Oh that's good. It
is quite good. And it's one they've been releasing once
a week. So, uh, therapist uh lost his wife trying
(32:19):
to deal with a teenage daughter, Krista Miller, who you
know from the Drew Carey Show and Scrubs. Uh. And
and is the wife of the show's creator. Uh, she's
next door and she's kind of over the top. And
then you have Harrison Ford, who's a therapist, but he's
going through that Alzheimers Alzheimers. Yeah, and also we Uh,
(32:40):
my wife makes me watch that show Reacher. Have you
ever seen Reacher? No, what is wrong with you? I
watch a lot of other things. Tom Cruise played Reacher.
They have this new Reacher. Yeah, there's a TV show now, No,
it's it's it's yeah, it's like a series, and I'll
buff out. My wife just watches the show to see
him take his show off. So no, No No, he's Jack Ryan.
(33:04):
J from the Office is Jack Ryan. It's not Jack Ryan.
I'm not talking about Job talking about Reacher. Yeah, hey,
Tysher was trying to help. No, don't him, Yeah, don't
listen to him. Jack Ryan Jack Reacher. Yeah, I don't
know that you want the surname of Reacher. It's problem. Yeah,
but that's that's a good series too. The guys all
(33:24):
I have no doubt stuff. Yeah, yeah, I'm ready for
ted Lasso to come back. I haven't seen that one really, No,
I've been watching a lot of like one off movies.
It was a nice one that Dave Franco and Alison
Breed just had out the person, uh, someone I used
to know I think was the title of that one.
I like him. I'll go check it out. So it's
kind of cool. I mean, it's not you know, slapstick comedy. Likewise,
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Siegel has some funny moments. We don't go to the
theater like you do. You know what I mean. I
didn't judge you don't try to judge me. So like
I always say it with folks with your discretionary income,
if you have okay, however you choose to spend it,
as long as you're not hurting something. You went to
what Times Square to go see a play? Right? Did
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you go all the way out there? Yeah? We were.
We were on Broadway. We went to a number of things.
Look at you. My daughter's going back for a class
trip in April, which is kind of cool. They're gonna
get some training and behind the scenes fun. But but
it's what we do. We love concerts. Right, We've got
our tickets for Taylor Swift, We've got our ring Oh
my goodness, how did you get tickets for the Don't
(34:28):
they cost like a million dollars? Pay that? No? And
see and that's the problem. And this is you paid
a million dollars. No. This is where it gets dopey
in the discussion of all of this stuff. Can't get it.
That's the problem is people look on the secondary market
of what people are trying to get for their tickets
and they get all excited, but look what it costs
to go. It's like, no, here's the thing, supply demand.
(34:50):
It's like the super Bowl. We have this argument every
year where people get upset like it's a surprise. The
super Bowl ticket costs you a couple grand. Guess what.
There's million, millions and millions like the Rocks fans, the
millions and millions that are trying to clamor to get
into the stadium to watch said events. Well, how did
you get tickets? So what they did was when they
(35:12):
the initial one, I got shut out, right, and then
they went through and they eliminated nearly two hundred thousand
tickets that were consumed buy bots. So there was a
second chance, and I got in on the second chance.
Did you have to pay a million dollars? I think
total costs with fees they came out to under two
(35:34):
hundred dollars each. And how much can you sell it
for seven fifty each? Right? I tell your girls, that's sorry,
we can't go. I have to sell the tickets. If
I was you know what dolls. Look, man, there's there's
a highly lucrative business in doing those things. I mean,
way back to day. If you told your daughters, sorry, girls,
(35:55):
I'll give you a choice. We could either go to
the concert or I'll give you the cash. Where do
your My kids would take the cash? Now? They love
the experiences. There's no question we've been blessed. Right now.
I don't look any of it in, you know, as
in the face and turn it away or make light
of it. Likewise, sitting here being able to do this.
(36:15):
But but like the thing I always tried, like, oh,
you guys get everything for free. It's like I don't.
I'm not a guy on that rung. Super Fox super
Bowl was just in in Arizona. Did I have a
ticket for that? Nope? When it was in Las Vegas,
working for two days, and then I was sitting at
a at a party where that broke out, doing football trivia.
(36:36):
So tell me when I got there. Yeah, when I
first got married, my wife had won two tickets in
the pool for the NBA All Star Game and the
three point Judy contest to the slam Dunk cost all
that one when it was still good and people wanted
to go there, and we were just getting married, and
somebody offered her three thousand dollars for the pair. And
she turned to me and she goes, where do you
(36:56):
think I go? Give it? Give us the three thousand dollars,
watch it on TV. Man, when do you get me?
Get out of here? Three thousand dollars? That was big
money back then. You that's a big money now. Well,
but that's the thing, right, It's all about value proposition,
right if you're a team, if you're a fan of
a team that goes oftentimes right, and like say you
were a Patriots fan, Well, now you're picking and choosing.
(37:19):
He had a lot of opportunities to go see a
super Bowl during time. I'm still not going to mortgage
my house to go see a super Bowl. Well, but
but it's all, it's all becomes a relativity thing. Right.
If suddenly you just say, hey, I've got to come
up with seven thousand dollars my team or ten thousand
or whatever the fictional number is because my team made
it to the super Bowl, then yes, it's probably gonna
be like, wow, that's tight. But if it's a hey,
(37:41):
you know what that Starbucks run that I make with
my co workers every day, how about I get a
glass of water that day and I get coffee from
this from me? Yeah? Right, but it's five bucks? Like no,
but literally already dred times. Yeah, you know. But for
a lot of teams, you have multiple decades, four year
team goes. I'm a Bears fan. They've gone to one
(38:02):
super Bowl since the nineteen eighty five team, so I
went to that one, right, But legitimately like that, look
that it's always remembering for what Prince did playing Purple
Rain in the rain. They lost to Peyton Manning, who
didn't play great, but he gets he gets the win.
Devin Hester returned the opening kickoff for a touchdown. So
you got that thrilling moment and a loss. Unfortunately, timing wise,
(38:25):
I was at a position in my life with a
newborn I couldn't go. I mean, we made the choice.
We went. I was able to get home. My brothers
were able to get tickets to a World Series game
for the White Sox, which is why we went to
Game two. That's said Nick home run, the Canarico home run.
I'll never be able to trade that. I had to
cancel all my radio appearances for a week because I
(38:45):
had no voice, no something listen. I'll it was worth
every penny of it. Of course, I'll never forget this.
As a kid, I was like twelve or thirteen years old.
We had just moved to California and we had no
money whatsoever. I'm talking about no like I was living
with my aunt, My parents were living with my grandparents.
We were just really poor. We were eating at McDonald's, right,
(39:06):
it was like that, you know, that was the thing.
That we're eating McDonald's and the guy next to me
is looking at it as four tickets to the Rams
Vikings playoff game in Los Angeles, and me being a
big mouth new Yorker go hey, hey, you, where's the
two tickets for being my dad? And he took two
tickets out and just handed them to us, just handed
(39:26):
him for free, and we took the two tickets. My
dad took me to the game. It was pouring, like
creating I remember correctly. I think Minnesota won the game
fourteen to seven. And I'll never forget it. We couldn't
afford to go, but the fact that the guy gave
us the tickets for free, just handed them out over
my dad said, let's go, man, we'll go to the game.
(39:46):
And it was like like three hours before the game.
It was crazy. Man, I'll never forget. It was a
great moment, you know. But yeah, I mean it just
goes back to the larger thing about experiences and being
able to take in those moments if it has that
much meaning to you. Yeah. Right, if you're a downtrodden franchise,
you've got a lot of time to put some money away.
Yeah there dollar here, a dollar there. It's general principles
(40:09):
and something that as a country and individuals, and we
all fail at it. I'm terrible at it oftentimes because
you're you're looking at it and you know, you're going
through some stuff. What do you have retail therapy? You
have some circumstance Like today, I was having a little
bit of a lull and then I stopped that. I
bought a box of baseball cards that said, hey, Mike
(40:30):
picked us up. You know, I pulled some crazy Julio
Rodriguez autograph card that pays for my week. And then
somehow so that could that would pay for half of
a super Bowl ticket, the thing I pulled today. But
it's the idea that you know, we do it was
that the best idea of what the money ahead. No,
but in the end it paid off, But the experience doesn't. Like.
My kids are gonna grow up and eventually hopefully they
(40:52):
have the means, the opportunity, the time to go do
some of this. And I love that I've been able
to do that with them. And I know that's the father.
There's some thing father daughter things. Whatever. You don't get
that time back, No you don't. A matter of fact,
I'll give you one more time. My dad went to
one LA Kings game. One game. He took my brother
(41:13):
just one game, and that happened to be the miracle
on Manchester when they were down by five goals, tied
it up in the third and won it and overtime.
I think they were down five goals in the third,
Mike and ended up winning that game. So that was
the one Kings game. But I mean, that's it, right.
I mean, I'm fortunate to be in this space to
be able to do it. I'm blessed with the opportunities
(41:34):
we've been able to have professionally personally, and these experiences
are are you know, worth their weighting goal? And you
know that's my one piece to to anybody as if
as you can, you try to grab one of those,
and if it's a Super Bowl, if it's a World
Series game, if it's just week nine and that. Yeah,
but you know you did. It's easy for you to
(41:56):
say that. Now suppose you just spent the whole bunch
of tickets. I heard Rob Parker um on before us
talking about how he has family coming into town, so
he bought tickets to see the Lakers in Dallas and
it cost him almost two thousand dollars. I don't know
how many. Well that means he bought good tickets. Yeah,
But my point is what happens if there's no Lebron
or there's no Luca. The games still being played, isn't
(42:19):
it again though, as he experienced any less because these
guys don't play. That's see, that's the problem with the NBA.
Now you're gonna make an excuse for these guys going
on load management that that's terrible when somebody spends all
that type of money to see a product and three
or four of the products don't show up, that that's
just terrible to spend that type of money. You know. Well,
(42:40):
but again it's a choice that you recognize the game
you're playing right now when you're you're going and buying
NBA tickets. I hate to say it, but that's where
you're at. Particularly if it's the back end of a
back to back game. Guess what you're probably not seeing
that star. Well, you gotta plan, right, and that's built
into the math. Well, you have to, guys, and I
(43:01):
guess to guess the starting pitchers. I used to when
I was a kid, we used to say, win's Fernando.
Now you have more perfect information on that, uh, and
you do it. But like, think about the chase to
Kareem's record. Not to be labor the point too much,
but think about the chase to Kareem's record, and how
much was being spent on the secondary market for that
game against Milwaukee. You weren't buying tickets face value. You
(43:25):
went into the market, but legitimately you went into the
market place thinking you were gonna see history, and you
decided whatever that multiple was to pay and you got lucky. Right,
But I'm sorry it didn't work out for you if
you waited till that week saying, oh, it's gonna kind,
it's gonna have that's different though, if if if he
doesn't reach the mark in one game, right, but then
(43:47):
he didn't play either because he was hurt. Yeah, it's
just it's just it stings when you spend that type
of money and you have guys sitting out on purpose
because they just don't want to get tired or something
or risk getting hurt. Well. But unfortunately, again at this point,
we're at the We're at the point where I'm just
a realist that when when I go, i I the
(44:10):
laundry is still playing. I had partial season tickets for
the Lakers in Kobe's final year. You know how many
times I went to games and saw him play? Zero? No,
how many I was over six get out of he
well he how many games? How many I forget how
many he missed on the year. The point was every
(44:31):
game I had tickets too that I went play. Yeah,
but but I knew that was the case where he
was physically and where we were in the continuumgement. But
it was to a degree like Kobe was a guy
that was going to try to gut it out and
be out there, but they also still had to be
(44:51):
judicious with those minutes so that when he did play,
they got a maximum return. Right. That's kind of where
we are a little bit. Yeah, and you got to
lower the prices um when something like that happens, I guess.
But but the point I'm making with this is, you know,
if you're going into the secondary market, you know it's
it's a bit of a buyer beware. And that's not
(45:11):
to rob that's to the The whole equation of it
is that you know, especially with the NBA, you know,
guys may sit right baseball games. Not that you have
the same thing, but if you know, the Yankees come
to town, you're in Chicago or whatever possible, Judge doesn't
play one of those, Yeah, but you can go ahead
and get you know, tickets to two or three of
the games. Baseball still is way more affordable. It's the best.
(45:34):
Baseball is the best bargain in all of sports, I think.
But again it's what are you paying for it? Because
if you're paying five hundred dollars a seat, you're not
sitting in the three hundred levels. It's my point, you're
not paying You made it, but you made a choice
to go and upgrade your experience. Yeah, you're not paying
that much for baseball. I promise you that all depending
on the game, you might really really well and where
(45:56):
you want to sit. Right, if you just want to
get in most ball games you can get in for
under twenty thirty bucks. You'll play there, you go, But
I mean you'll pay more to park. But again it
becomes the what's your experience? Are you trying to sit
lower level? Are you trying to sit by the dugouts?
Then you're probably showing out game. I would have a
couple of Dodger dogs. I want to be able to
sit there and relax and and then leaving the third inning.
(46:18):
That you know, that's like typical LA fans. Wow, look
at that taking the shots at the LA fans
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I am alongside the stinking genius himself, my guy, Arnie Span,
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in our business is history. What's up? I I didn't
know you were driving tonight. I'm you threw me off
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a loop there. I thought I was gonna be driving tonight.
I cackling of a madman less than two minutes, and
there is nothing better than that. Hey, come on my
show and I want to drive. Well, yeah, technically I
am filling in for Jason, and Jason drives, so I
I just don't know when he's not here. Those are
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the dynamics you want to take it up with Shapiro. Okay, No,
that's okay. I there's a there's a there's a list.
We we can have the list altered, stinking genius. You know,
it's like the depth chart thing at uh, you know,
Friday Night Lights when Billy Bob Thornton is uh flipping
guys into the trash. Can we got to do those
things here in Fox Sports? Raining you feeling? You feeling
(01:48):
for Dan Patrick? So you're double duty? Yeah yeah, So
tomorrow I'll be off an opportunity to go take my
older daughter to a theater opportunity here locally. She follows
out of Michigan, that's out here for a couple of
weeks putting on a show, so the theater or something like, no, no,
(02:09):
I forget what that No, no, no, it's it's it's
fac safe for worth kind of uh name, I don't
even think. But yeah, no, she's she's big into theater
at her high school. They're they're working on lay Misser
Rob for the Spring musical and all that fun stuff.
But yeah, I'm I'm a cultured man. I'm not just
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all about wrestling, I mean, which is culture and of itself.
But between wrestling and all of our sticking ball store
sports and uh, learning more and more about the the
racing world, and certainly I know my way around a
paramutual wager or two for the hornest, hardest racing and
horse racing. Uh So, yeah, I've got it all a world. Now,
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you're usually one of the more cultured sports talk hosts
at this network. There's no doubt about that. I spent
a lot of money on education that they admit that.
I had to go to a lot of au and
learned the ropes in a lot of different ways, aren't
he so? Uh? And yet it still led me into
a radio studio because I went back to what I
loved as opposed to what I trained to do. Yeah,
(03:11):
I just looked into this job. So I don't think
they actually know. Yeah, I don't even think they've been
faking it for a long time and as long as
a check shows up based on what you do with
Plank on Sundays and coming and hanging out with me
now and again, it's all good, my brother. I love it.
I love it. How about it? I get the filling
with you with Dan Patrick? What you see, I have
rules against me. I don't know if the people know this.
(03:33):
I'm not allowed to be on the air when the
sun's up. I'm not allowed to be in the studio
with another host, obviously for certain reasons, because I'm not
liked And the last time I was in there or
not liked, yeah, I was in the studio almost through
my co host through some glass windows. Well, I mean
sometimes that's gonna happen. I mean, that's it. We'll get
into the relationship of co hosts coming up about forty
(03:53):
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my way. Yeah, and it is an interesting one, and
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designed and figured you paid for the extra fitting, like
it was a nice set of golf clubs monogram. Let
me come on the whole thing. It's like the Lamborghini
of shovels. No, it is something when we were growing up.
People would got to laugh because my mom was so
particular about the lawn right every like wouldn't even let
us mow the lawn. And then we'd be allowed to
still go play whiffleball and tear it all up, which
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was the most asinine thing. You won't let me run
the lawnmower haphazardly because you want to clean. But an
hour later, me and eight of my jackass buddies can
be out here trampling everything, creating divots and digging holes
with our sneakers as we'd try to turn a double play.
I don't understand it. I love that. That was a
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big thing. We've not whipflebabble, but we used to play stickball.
So there, yeah, there you go. That was hard. Now
you're aging yourself, giving yourself an extra decade. Good for you,
Good for you, my friend. Well, we got a lot
in the hopper tonight. You certainly were up early before
I was even on air on the Dan Patrick Show.
Text ideas, we've traded a lot of great stories. There's
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a lot going on. Don't let anybody tell you otherwise,
just because it's only college basketball. By the way, I'd
be remiss if I didn't note that Syracuse got drummed again.
Bye Jimmy, Jimmy and somewhere the ears of Jason Smith
and many others in the media just perked up as
they lose to Clemson. But we pushed that aside because
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you know, we talk a lot about our consumption of sports,
our habits and what we have, and nothing bigger than
the culmination of an NFL season and the hundred thirteen million,
hundred eighteen million depending on look how much you believe
the measurements to begin with, but let's just take them
for face value. One hundred and thirteen million for the
game and then the look you lose that came on
(06:48):
board to watch Rihanna lipsync and go through some of
the greatest hits before you added them to your Spotify
playlists and other things, which was great. Like I'm not
denigrating it, it is what it is. I recognize the
business of it all. Good job by her, but the
recognition of there's your high point of everybody gathered around
that like we used to way back in the day
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when we only had a couple of networks. And now
this week's all about bemoaning ratings in the XFL I'll look,
they're half of what they were last time. And then
the NBA All Star Game was gone. How much of
that did you watch, Arnie? Well, you know, I had
it on, but I wasn't watching like it used to
watch when I was younger. If that's what you're asking.
If I didn't have to watch for the show, I
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wouldn't even have had it on. I would have had
a movie or something like that, or maybe watched the
college game or an NHL game in it was something
that I And by the way, the ratings were low, Mike,
not because of the bad play that was out there.
It's because people didn't tune in and then tune out,
and so this is horrible. They were tuning out, but
they were they never tuned in exactly. They didn't even
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tune in because they were disinterested. Because they know the
players are disinterested. They didn't even have to see the
bad play to know that they didn't even want to
watch this game. You know. Well, but that's the thing
that confuses me. I mean, because the last couple of days,
all you've heard is a litany of people go on
and on and on about and certainly in your social media,
sports radio television bleeding into general media talking about how
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terrible the game was, Like, well, how do you comment
on it when when most of you didn't watch it?
The ratings would tell me most of you didn't watch.
I saw most of the first half, and then my
daughters and I said, forget it, let's go see aunt Man.
So we went and watched the ant Man movie, which
was pretty cool. Uh and it was a nice escape
and whatever I didn't nap it was great. I was
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really proud of myself. I stayed away for the whole movie,
despite being up really early, Up with the Sun, Gone
with the Wind, as Bob Seeger sang so many years ago.
But I watched the beginning of it. I saw a
little bit of the pre game, for which I've been
openly mocked on these airwaves over the last couple of days. Well,
what would have made it better? Mike, though? What it
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would have been better if they would have played some defense?
Would that? I mean? What did they play a one
quarter of man? If you want me to stick around
like I'm curious, like I'm a curious sort. And obviously
for the show, as you refer to, aren'tie is you
pay attention to a little of it. You watched Jannie.
Is he gonna play? Is he not? While he comes out,
he gets his little lay in dunk and then he
goes no, no, no. But but I mean, it's a
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cavalcade of stars. But you're looking for some semblance of
a basketball game. But here's the thing. Here's there's the
joke is on folks that we're expecting that they haven't
done that in years. Yeah, it's been like I joked
with we talked with Rick Bucker with this morning and
I'm like, well, here's how you add some extra flavor
to it. Guess what, guys, because nobody plays defense. You
don't want to participate in the dunk contest. You're part
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of the dunk contest right now? Ha ha That three
sixty you just did. That guy behind the bench there,
he's gonna tell you what your score is. And now
we have an in game competition and you can't opt
out because you already dunked you know part of it.
Sometimes you just can't fix it. You know. Maybe the
ideas and I brought this up on Sunday, when we
have to bear through this game, maybe it's time that
if you're not going to go ahead and play for
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the fans, and the fans don't care anymore. Maybe we
just got to make it about charity. Maybe we got
to go ahead and find out a way that every
player gets one million dollars donated to their charity, and
you know, we take thirty million dollars or whatever it is,
and we do something like that. Maybe if we can't
go ahead and have a decent game or anything like that,
let's turn the weekend around. Let's let's do something about
it instead of just complaining how the ratings are awful. Yeah,
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I think when we get get down that road, aren'tie
guys already have their foundations and whatever I know, and
their tax shelter whatever else they've set up. So the
the motivation for an extra million when you're making a
hundreds of millions off your shoes, I like, I like
it in theory, right, And and that's where're at. You're
we're always trying to fix it. You know. It's kind
of like it's kind of like care about the regular season,
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you know, kind of like the Iowa football games when
they wave to the kids in the hospital last together.
You know, if we do something like that where they
do something for the kids or something, and we raise
twenty five or thirty million dollars. Each owner gives a
million dollars. If we're not going to go and play hard,
if if we're just gonna take four or five days off,
why not take one day to go ahead and make
sure that they're they're making the most productive of their
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time and doing something like that. I don't know. Again,
if we're not doing it for the fans, do it
for something else that. Yeah, what I thought was interesting
is you know, some of the pregame and bleeding in
I thought was a good job because a lot of
it's and it should be as you try to do
one of these parties, and that's what it is, a
big corporate event, right, just a week leading to the
super Bowl. It's the all the sponsors, all the brands,
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everybody's in the house. But you also get to do
some of the history lessons, right, So you saw some
of the vignettes before post malone was out there. My
daughter looked at me at one point as we're sitting
there having dinner watching it. We don't have any sound on.
She goes, are they're gonna play basketball eventually? Yeah? I
don't know if actually it's gonna And then they started
playing and she goes, wait, this is worse than the
defense that wasn't played when I played lacrosse a couple
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of years ago, where you couldn't check, you couldn't hit.
It was basically, if you got control of the ball,
you got to run from one end to the other,
and as long as you didn't fumble it, you could
shoot it at the goalie. The same thing here is
because nobody's stepping away. And it was funny that the
one time Lebron James did try to play defense, he
hurt his finger. Yes exactly, you know, but it wasn't
even about the defense. Like I said, if they would
have played a little bit of defense, I don't think
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that would have made it a whole much better. We
was like, oh, now now we have a great All Star.
You stipulate to what it is, right, it's a let's
hang out, let's laugh, let's have a joke or two.
Let's get out of here healthy and go on vacation. Yeah,
they but they took so much away from it. They
took once they took it away from the Eastern and
Western conferences, and you know, with this whole let's pick
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teams and let's squead mix it up a little bit
so nobody could actually know who was picked last. And
I don't know, we've messed with it so much now
I don't even know if there's a way back to
getting back to where it was. Well, well, we don't have.
And something I alluded to earlier in the week, Arnie,
is that you have the idea of once upon a time,
it was here's the Eastern Conference and guys that don't
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like each other, but it's Michael Jordan teaming up with
Isaiah Thomas in the late end. The Celtics against the
Lakers starting five was essentially and here's the Kamalaijuan in
the middle, right. That was it? Like those were the
ad Patrick Ewing whatever. But you had guys that legitimately
battled in the playoffs and like each other. Here it's
like everybody's just happy to see each other. It's a
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nice festive event and either watched or you didn't, and
if you didn't, you were with the majority, just like
regular season games. All Right, we're bemoaning the ratings for
the playoffs. Nobody's got a solution of how to get
people to watch regular season basketball. Yeah, like that's the
that's the first problem that you know that's going to
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be the killer of the sport. Let me tell you something.
There's two sports nowadays. Um, there's football and then there's
everything else because um, basketball has fallen in with baseball
and soccer and hockey. It's just a big miss Moss
really for number two because everything is behind the NFL
and for the most part college football. UM. And they
brought this on themselves. They went ahead and they did
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load management. They've they've deemed the regular season pretty much.
It doesn't make a difference. So many teams make the playoffs.
There's the play in series. Mike, I'm i'm I'm I'm
sick of what's happened to the NBA over the last
couple of years. Well, I know, because I mean you
very well know one of the owners locally. And that's
we're gonna turn our attention to next because we've got
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some great comments from coaching player to dissect. And for me,
it's handwringing and laughing, uh, chuckling like a madman in
the background, like a Bond movie villain. Folly Fusco here
with Tony Fusco. Yo, as you all know. We're the
host of the number one rated show and all the
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(14:41):
and we know why millions of people tune in every week.
They want to hear us talk sports, not idiot guests
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This is the worst thing. He's still on the way
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(15:26):
He's in Jason Smith. Smith will be back tomorrow night.
He took the back end of a day night doubleheader off.
It's like a catcher. His knees were a little so ecaded.
He needed the night off. Can't blame him for that
good game going on with South Carolina Alabama in overtime.
South Carolina actually now tied with a little over three
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minutes left, about three and a half minutes left and overtime.
Good game. Now, well we're hitting that point in the year.
Also paying more attention to the college bucket world. Just
a couple of weeks from March Madness. My team actually
gonna dance for this second time in team history, aren't
I know that? That's quite a run. I know they were.
It was a long time coming the first time, but
they've had a good year this year. Chris Collins a
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guy that folks thought at the end of last year
there might have been an agreement to say congratulations on
a job done and that he'd move on. He had
some transfer issues this off season. Instead, Boo Booie and company.
Audi's one of the great defenders in the game getting
it done. So have fun time from my beloved Northwestern Wildcats. There.
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I got my thirty five seconds. That's all I'm allotted.
That's right. It's not about the Mets, Jets or Aaron Rodgers.
So we have to move on. Are We went a
full hour and twenty four minutes our twenty five before
mentioning Aaron Rodgers in his Darkness retreat. We've had some
fun with it over the last couple of weeks, aren'ty?
I know you and Plank I'm certainly talking about it
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as he is a Raiders fan and keeping his eye
and trying to stay abreast of what's going on in
that part of things. But one of the reports that
had gotten out, and this was Bob McGinn, who's covered
the team forever, talking about it's irreparable. The Packers are
done with this, They're tired of his act. And obviously
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I'm just kind of paraph paraphrasing his reports, but more
or less saying, hey, they've all but moved on from
Aaron Rodgers. Well, Tom Pella Sero, you know if NFL
Network said quote, if he wants to return to Green
Bay and as long as he's fully bought in, Packers
want him back, said that on the Rich Eyes and Show.
It's something that we certainly had this morning. Something Jason
(17:38):
Cole said to us as well, rights for OutKick, pro
Football Hall of Fame voter just saying, don't believe some
of the noise, And obviously that's one of the things
Rogers said before on the Pat McAfee show, one of
his last appearances, when he railed against NFL insiders and
kind of went into his hey, his circle of trust
more or less. Have you ever seen the movie, you know,
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Meet the Fockers, And yeah, yeah, of course, yeah, yeah,
circle of trust and Aaron Rodgers more of us, intimating
than anybody that would betray any of his confidences. You'd
be out of that circle of trust really fast, do
you know what? Even And I understand that, Mike, but
you know what, if you have conflicting reports here, which
we do, you gave one on one and one on
the other, well, then now it comes to common sense
for people like you and me and the listeners out there.
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And all I could do is put myself in the
situation of the Packers, and put myself in the situation
of Aaron Rodgers. And you know what, if I was
the Packers, I would be fed up with him. And
if Bob Rodgers, I probably want to go somewhere else. Also,
I think it's a divorce a long time coming, and
I think it boils down to now. And like I said,
putting yourself in the Packers situation, they already have a
quarterback in Jordan Love. I would think that they'd be
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happy to move on from Aaron Rodgers and that got
off a contract that they're paying him and go in
another direction. They didn't make the playoffs. If they could
lose with Aaron Rodgers, they could certainly lose without him.
I would just think that they'd want to go in
a different direction. Yeah. I think the big thing was
the expectation that if we gave all this money, that
you'd show up and you'd work with the young receivers
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and that you try to build well. I mean, you
had back to back failures deep in the playoffs after
MVP seasons, right, some of that He and La Fleur
been saying it for years that there's not a whole
lot of trust and respect in some ways there going
all the way back to when Roger said, oh, you
want to kick the field goal, Fine, I'm not gonna
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fight you keep the ball back to Tom Brady. Sure,
this is smart. Yeah, that's one of the things I've
always been disappointed in Rogers on like, Look, he's in
the same division with the Bears, and I've got a
bottle of champagne on ice for the day that he leaves,
because at least in theory, for a moment, you could
say they break the chain of thirty plus years of
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him and Brett Farve, and then Jordan Love will show
up and he'll dominate the Bears. To ye. But but
the idea being that we've watched this all along and
you had those circumstances where like, here's your opportunity to
show you're the leader of the team, to say I
command that we go for it here, that we take
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care of business instead of making it and giving Tom
Brady an opportunity to come get us. No, you know what,
let me ask you this, Mike, if you had a chance,
if you're Aaron Rodgers, if you think about it, if
you were going to go through like the top five
places that would be perfect for Aaron Rodgers, I think
Green Bay would probably be like third or fourth, if
not even fifth on that list. I think going to
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the Raiders. I'm not saying it's going to happen, but
I think going to the Raiders would be a better
fit going to the Jets. I think with actually, why
why are those the NFC in terms of power structure
stinks right now? Well, you can say well, first of all,
the AFC East, it's not like it's that daunting. I mean,
the Patriots are going in the wrong direction, and right
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now the Jets are not a playoff team. It was
just Miambi and Buffalo and Buffalo's being but it's not
away and the Patriots are gonna be a five hundred
team every year, aren't he Well, there's no you know, rollovers,
they'll be lucky if they're gonna be a five hundred team. Yes,
maybe you're you're right, and it's still the Jets. It'd
be easier for him, But I think it'd be a
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better fit for him in New York with his attitude,
get out of small time Green Bay and see if
they can go build a little bit of an offense
around him and get some receivers around them now that
he doesn't have at him, So I think that'd be
a better fit for him also, And certainly go into
Vegas and um having them reunite there. That'd be a
great place for him too. But you're still playing in
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that division. I don't think Denver is gonna be And
we got a great story from Russell Wilson that, yeah,
just about fifteen minutes but Denver will be better with
Jahn the Chargers if they ever hire a training staff
that can keep guys on the field. Look out, they've
got all stars all over. And then you still got
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Kansas City. And remember you're still the Raiders. You still
have to fix that defense and offensive line does and
he's gonna be forty. So anybody thinking that it's a
quick fix with him showing up, that's a whole other
part to this. Let me ask you where you stand
real quick, since you just mentioned that division our head
coach is important to you, or coordinator is important to you,
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or no to a degree. So I mean, but I
need the guy to get things started. Well, I just
didn't know if you thought that maybe Kansas City was
going to take a step backwards because Eric Piomy is
now gone. Well, I mean, I know it doesn't put
Matt Naggey in a more prominent position of power with
Chicago guy. Seems to me like that's problematic. But as
long as Andy Reid's still there to cut off any
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of his domfooler, It'll be okay. You can't keep taking
away bricks and bricks and bricks and hope the building
doesn't fall. You took away Tyreek Kill. Now you've taken
away the offensive coordinator. Sooner or later, it's going to you.
Don't I like that? Well, sooner or later. That was
what everybody did with Tom Brady for a decade after
he turned thirty five. Don't tell track apart man, don't
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tell Kelsey on me. I yell at me. At the
end of the season, you they were this second betting
favorite that it was the most insane, inane argument being made.
I just look at it from a division standpoint. I
like what Detroit is building, but they're not there yet.
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The Bears have a lot of work to do. What
whether they keep fields or not. But they have one
hundred million dollars to go out and spend. They've got
number one pick. There's a lot, and that's the part
that's but do you pick it right? Especially you look
at the histories of these teams, and yes, this is
the first time for the Bears. It's not McCaskey family
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that's making the decisions. It's an outside guy with a history.
Was in Kansas City and the rookie class looked like
it was all right, you got a couple of component parts. Look,
obviously you need to go get wide receivers, but you're
gonna have to overpay. It's kind of like when Christian
Kirk signed with Jacksonville. You're gonna have to come up
with a really big check. Why the reputation at Chicago
is where receivers go to die. I'm one there where
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some of these secondary quarterbacks are gonna end up like
a Jimmy Garoppolo. And I mean it looks like Daniel
Jones gonna stay in New York. But how much money
are they going to pay him? Um? He wants what
like forty wants forty five million dollars? Yeah, good luck
to you, you know what I mean. But you know
what you could ask right what it's like when you
were before, before you got married. You asked out a
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lot of girls. What's the worst? They could say? And no,
but that's a lot of money to do, you know
what I mean? Though, like you look at it and
look you go deeper into the math of what they
did in New York. Wasn't an overwhelming offense by any
that a very easy schedule too. I schedule was in
their favor. Barkley had a good year. He went fifteen.
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Where's Barkley gonna go, I mean the betting favorite if
he doesn't get a franchise tag, because David Montgomery's probably
gonna be gone. Khalil Herbert coming back off an injury.
So earlier this week I saw that they were plus
three fifty. We'll get into this later on, but I
said that the we got yeah, yeah, we'll get into
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the running back. Running back is pretty much antiqua. It's useless.
I mean, let's be honest. I mean, the top running
backs for the last six years, their teams have done
absolutely nothing. They've not even been a Super Bowl threat.
To these running backs that have been so good, the
running back position is like the old center position um
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in the NBA. It's just not needed anymore to go
ahead and win a championship or to win a Super Bowl.
Now you have the position less NBA, and you got
guys that are seven feet that are actually skilled. Yeah,
give the shoot guard. Likewise, running backs here, like I
don't think their value is gone, and we'll have this
discussion we get over. No, no, no, because the reason
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it is a lot of teams rely on them as receivers.
Talking about the Giants right in sa Quon Barkley Biggier
running the football. He was tied for their team lead
and receptions. Well, he's one that like that. But there's
a bunch of guys that are like to get Austin Eckler.
You had over one hundred catches sunk. He's got no
Miles laf No unless he comes back to me on
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a greatly reduced salary and recognizes he's the number two guy,
which he should have been in Dallas the whole time. Right,
I hope for well, you go find another running back
in the draft, is what that? Or you find another
guy in free agency does exactly the same amount of money, right, Yeah,
the contract for Ezekiel Elliott. And it goes back to
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the larger Jerry Jones consideration. We did a deep dive
last night, find the podcast wherever you get your audio.
Jason Spitshew with me Mike harmon Um, a deep dive
on the whole Dak Prescott situation, right because they're open
Leo pining about the quarterback position in the draft and
everything else. And you look at Dak Prescott's contract, this
is the last year where the dead cap number is prohibitive.
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It's at like eighty nine million, dollars next year it's
thirty nine, which is not something that doesn't make you
a little bit, doesn't. But it's not awful. I got
a grand scale anymore. That's not the worst of the world.
You just mentioned that Gatti number. If it wasn't for
that Cotty number. If it was if the Cowboys could
get rid of Dak Prescott without paying a big penalty,
I bet you they would do it this year and
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go on as there's a lot of other quarterbacks that
could take over him for this year. But they can
because you mentioned the contract situation. I think mentally that
Dallas Cowboys are done with that Prescott. I would like
to go in a different direction. They just can't because
of the contract. Right. Well, but it's a tough spot,
right for what how they constructed their squad this year
(27:36):
that you have Pollard, you have Elliott. You tried to
cobble together your defense. That's fine. You've got some great
component parts in that defense, right, A generational guy Trevon Diggs.
You've got guys in that back seven that can get
after it and guys up front, and you paid for it.
But when you look at your offense, you had Ceedee
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Lamb and you had Dalton Sholl. You can certainly, but
that's the point, right, you had two players and all
your other receivers that you had on staff, guys you drafted,
guys coming back off injuries, are guys you brought in
didn't perform right. James Washington was supposed to come in,
All right, here's an opportunity. He's not buried on the
Steeler's depth chart. He gets hurt and he never sees
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the light of day. Michael Gallup comes back, has a
couple of flashes, but has no consistency keep on going
down the line. You had no consistency of another threat.
And I'm not trying to make excuses for Dak Prescott.
I'm just calling it what it is. You know, you're
devoid of talent. Goes back to the Daniel Jones thing.
What do you see on tape? Do you think that
with a little bit of time with Brian Dable and
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a receiver that you spend a little bit of money
on and actually get it right? Because this is where
I go to my GM hat for an army is
like there's certain teams that you don't get to pick
certain positions right in Indianapolis, Ballard doesn't get to pick
a quarterback. He gets to the rest of the roster.
Someone else does that. In Baltimore they don't get to
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pick wide receivers. They can pick whoever else, but they
don't get to pick wide receivers. Likewise, in New York
and in Dallas, you don't get to pick wideouts anymore.
Well you talk about whiteouts. Can you use one guy?
I don't know if he's really good. He's a tremendous
guy of the Cowboys, but not at the wide receiver position.
I'm talking about Turpin, who's the kick returner, who's just explosive. Um.
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But Hester, where he's a great returner, and then you
try to make him a wide receiver. He doesn't work.
He'd not even have the receiver that Devin Hester is
so um, that's the question. Can he, you know, be
the receiver that the Cowboys are looking for? The pubbly
have to go and bolster that up. And I'm still
curious to see what they're gonna do about the powered
situation if they franchise Dag him, and what they're gonna
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do about Ezekiel Elliott. Now a lot of moving parts
and certainly a division that used to be the least
and they're interesting, right even Washington. Are they great? No,
but they've got some parts to that team that are
in interesting. And if Sam Howell, who's their guy right now,
I can do anything with. They've got a good running
back and you've got McLaurin. You've got two pieces to
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help that offense move, and you know they can coach
up defense a little bit, so at least keeps you
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you like to call. But no, no, no, the Power
Hours last time. Oh what is the bonus hour? Bonus?
This is every damn night here. I know, I don't
know how You're four hours is just way too much
because I'm a powerful and attractive man and I just
keep going. Alex has me on the right diet. I'm
not consuming a bunch of sugar here in the final hours,
(30:53):
a little bit of caffeine, a lot of water and
I'm ready to go, and I'm watching movies about vampires
and highlights. Are watching games? Are you watching anything like?
Instead of the All Star Game? I was watching a
new series. I can't remember the name of it. It
has Sissy Spacek in it, and um, what's that guy
that slaps another guy in the face because of the
(31:15):
drums or something? I forget the name of the movie.
You know JK. Simmons is in there. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
he's in it. I mean he was in La La Land.
He fired and said you're fight. He was j Jonah
Jamison and Spider Man. So you don't know what I'm
serious series making about. No, no, oh, it's a good
one man. It's like futuristic and they do space travel
(31:38):
Nights Sky, Yes, that's it. Yes, Night Sky had no idea.
Irene and Franklin York have kept secret a chamber that
leads to a deserted planet, but the arrival of an
enigmatic young man up ends their quiet existence. Yeah, that
sounds like something I could watch. You would like it,
I'm telling you should. You should check it out out.
(31:58):
You would like I dig that. You know what I've
been watching U Shrinking on Apple TV. I've not seen that.
Jason Siegel Miller and Harrison Ford. Oh that's good. It
is quite good. And it's one they've been releasing once
a week. So, uh, therapist uh lost his wife trying
(32:19):
to deal with a teenage daughter, Krista Miller, who you
know from the Drew Carey Show and Scrubs. Uh. And
and is the wife of the show's creator. Uh, she's
next door and she's kind of over the top. And
then you have Harrison Ford, who's a therapist, but he's
going through that Alzheimers Alzheimers. Yeah, and also we Uh,
(32:40):
my wife makes me watch that show Reacher. Have you
ever seen Reacher? No, what is wrong with you? I
watch a lot of other things. Tom Cruise played Reacher.
They have this new Reacher. Yeah, there's a TV show now, No,
it's it's it's yeah, it's like a series, and I'll
buff out. My wife just watches the show to see
him take his show off. So no, No No, he's Jack Ryan.
(33:04):
J from the Office is Jack Ryan. It's not Jack Ryan.
I'm not talking about Job talking about Reacher. Yeah, hey,
Tysher was trying to help. No, don't him, Yeah, don't
listen to him. Jack Ryan Jack Reacher. Yeah, I don't
know that you want the surname of Reacher. It's problem. Yeah,
but that's that's a good series too. The guys all
(33:24):
I have no doubt stuff. Yeah, yeah, I'm ready for
ted Lasso to come back. I haven't seen that one really, No,
I've been watching a lot of like one off movies.
It was a nice one that Dave Franco and Alison
Breed just had out the person, uh, someone I used
to know I think was the title of that one.
I like him. I'll go check it out. So it's
kind of cool. I mean, it's not you know, slapstick comedy. Likewise,
(33:47):
Siegel has some funny moments. We don't go to the
theater like you do. You know what I mean. I
didn't judge you don't try to judge me. So like
I always say it with folks with your discretionary income,
if you have okay, however you choose to spend it,
as long as you're not hurting something. You went to
what Times Square to go see a play? Right? Did
(34:08):
you go all the way out there? Yeah? We were.
We were on Broadway. We went to a number of things.
Look at you. My daughter's going back for a class
trip in April, which is kind of cool. They're gonna
get some training and behind the scenes fun. But but
it's what we do. We love concerts. Right, We've got
our tickets for Taylor Swift, We've got our ring Oh
my goodness, how did you get tickets for the Don't
(34:28):
they cost like a million dollars? Pay that? No? And
see and that's the problem. And this is you paid
a million dollars. No. This is where it gets dopey
in the discussion of all of this stuff. Can't get it.
That's the problem is people look on the secondary market
of what people are trying to get for their tickets
and they get all excited, but look what it costs
to go. It's like, no, here's the thing, supply demand.
(34:50):
It's like the super Bowl. We have this argument every
year where people get upset like it's a surprise. The
super Bowl ticket costs you a couple grand. Guess what.
There's million, millions and millions like the Rocks fans, the
millions and millions that are trying to clamor to get
into the stadium to watch said events. Well, how did
you get tickets? So what they did was when they
(35:12):
the initial one, I got shut out, right, and then
they went through and they eliminated nearly two hundred thousand
tickets that were consumed buy bots. So there was a
second chance, and I got in on the second chance.
Did you have to pay a million dollars? I think
total costs with fees they came out to under two
(35:34):
hundred dollars each. And how much can you sell it
for seven fifty each? Right? I tell your girls, that's sorry,
we can't go. I have to sell the tickets. If
I was you know what dolls. Look, man, there's there's
a highly lucrative business in doing those things. I mean,
way back to day. If you told your daughters, sorry, girls,
(35:55):
I'll give you a choice. We could either go to
the concert or I'll give you the cash. Where do
your My kids would take the cash? Now? They love
the experiences. There's no question we've been blessed. Right now.
I don't look any of it in, you know, as
in the face and turn it away or make light
of it. Likewise, sitting here being able to do this.
(36:15):
But but like the thing I always tried, like, oh,
you guys get everything for free. It's like I don't.
I'm not a guy on that rung. Super Fox super
Bowl was just in in Arizona. Did I have a
ticket for that? Nope? When it was in Las Vegas,
working for two days, and then I was sitting at
a at a party where that broke out, doing football trivia.
(36:36):
So tell me when I got there. Yeah, when I
first got married, my wife had won two tickets in
the pool for the NBA All Star Game and the
three point Judy contest to the slam Dunk cost all
that one when it was still good and people wanted
to go there, and we were just getting married, and
somebody offered her three thousand dollars for the pair. And
she turned to me and she goes, where do you
(36:56):
think I go? Give it? Give us the three thousand dollars,
watch it on TV. Man, when do you get me?
Get out of here? Three thousand dollars? That was big
money back then. You that's a big money now. Well,
but that's the thing, right, It's all about value proposition,
right if you're a team, if you're a fan of
a team that goes oftentimes right, and like say you
were a Patriots fan, Well, now you're picking and choosing.
(37:19):
He had a lot of opportunities to go see a
super Bowl during time. I'm still not going to mortgage
my house to go see a super Bowl. Well, but
but it's all, it's all becomes a relativity thing. Right.
If suddenly you just say, hey, I've got to come
up with seven thousand dollars my team or ten thousand
or whatever the fictional number is because my team made
it to the super Bowl, then yes, it's probably gonna
be like, wow, that's tight. But if it's a hey,
(37:41):
you know what that Starbucks run that I make with
my co workers every day, how about I get a
glass of water that day and I get coffee from
this from me? Yeah? Right, but it's five bucks? Like no,
but literally already dred times. Yeah, you know. But for
a lot of teams, you have multiple decades, four year
team goes. I'm a Bears fan. They've gone to one
(38:02):
super Bowl since the nineteen eighty five team, so I
went to that one, right, But legitimately like that, look
that it's always remembering for what Prince did playing Purple
Rain in the rain. They lost to Peyton Manning, who
didn't play great, but he gets he gets the win.
Devin Hester returned the opening kickoff for a touchdown. So
you got that thrilling moment and a loss. Unfortunately, timing wise,
(38:25):
I was at a position in my life with a
newborn I couldn't go. I mean, we made the choice.
We went. I was able to get home. My brothers
were able to get tickets to a World Series game
for the White Sox, which is why we went to
Game two. That's said Nick home run, the Canarico home run.
I'll never be able to trade that. I had to
cancel all my radio appearances for a week because I
(38:45):
had no voice, no something listen. I'll it was worth
every penny of it. Of course, I'll never forget this.
As a kid, I was like twelve or thirteen years old.
We had just moved to California and we had no
money whatsoever. I'm talking about no like I was living
with my aunt, My parents were living with my grandparents.
We were just really poor. We were eating at McDonald's, right,
(39:06):
it was like that, you know, that was the thing.
That we're eating McDonald's and the guy next to me
is looking at it as four tickets to the Rams
Vikings playoff game in Los Angeles, and me being a
big mouth new Yorker go hey, hey, you, where's the
two tickets for being my dad? And he took two
tickets out and just handed them to us, just handed
(39:26):
him for free, and we took the two tickets. My
dad took me to the game. It was pouring, like
creating I remember correctly. I think Minnesota won the game
fourteen to seven. And I'll never forget it. We couldn't
afford to go, but the fact that the guy gave
us the tickets for free, just handed them out over
my dad said, let's go, man, we'll go to the game.
(39:46):
And it was like like three hours before the game.
It was crazy. Man, I'll never forget. It was a
great moment, you know. But yeah, I mean it just
goes back to the larger thing about experiences and being
able to take in those moments if it has that
much meaning to you. Yeah. Right, if you're a downtrodden franchise,
you've got a lot of time to put some money away.
Yeah there dollar here, a dollar there. It's general principles
(40:09):
and something that as a country and individuals, and we
all fail at it. I'm terrible at it oftentimes because
you're you're looking at it and you know, you're going
through some stuff. What do you have retail therapy? You
have some circumstance Like today, I was having a little
bit of a lull and then I stopped that. I
bought a box of baseball cards that said, hey, Mike
(40:30):
picked us up. You know, I pulled some crazy Julio
Rodriguez autograph card that pays for my week. And then
somehow so that could that would pay for half of
a super Bowl ticket, the thing I pulled today. But
it's the idea that you know, we do it was
that the best idea of what the money ahead. No,
but in the end it paid off, But the experience doesn't. Like.
My kids are gonna grow up and eventually hopefully they
(40:52):
have the means, the opportunity, the time to go do
some of this. And I love that I've been able
to do that with them. And I know that's the father.
There's some thing father daughter things. Whatever. You don't get
that time back, No you don't. A matter of fact,
I'll give you one more time. My dad went to
one LA Kings game. One game. He took my brother
(41:13):
just one game, and that happened to be the miracle
on Manchester when they were down by five goals, tied
it up in the third and won it and overtime.
I think they were down five goals in the third,
Mike and ended up winning that game. So that was
the one Kings game. But I mean, that's it, right.
I mean, I'm fortunate to be in this space to
be able to do it. I'm blessed with the opportunities
(41:34):
we've been able to have professionally personally, and these experiences
are are you know, worth their weighting goal? And you
know that's my one piece to to anybody as if
as you can, you try to grab one of those,
and if it's a Super Bowl, if it's a World
Series game, if it's just week nine and that. Yeah,
but you know you did. It's easy for you to
(41:56):
say that. Now suppose you just spent the whole bunch
of tickets. I heard Rob Parker um on before us
talking about how he has family coming into town, so
he bought tickets to see the Lakers in Dallas and
it cost him almost two thousand dollars. I don't know
how many. Well that means he bought good tickets. Yeah,
But my point is what happens if there's no Lebron
or there's no Luca. The games still being played, isn't
(42:19):
it again though, as he experienced any less because these
guys don't play. That's see, that's the problem with the NBA.
Now you're gonna make an excuse for these guys going
on load management that that's terrible when somebody spends all
that type of money to see a product and three
or four of the products don't show up, that that's
just terrible to spend that type of money. You know. Well,
(42:40):
but again it's a choice that you recognize the game
you're playing right now when you're you're going and buying
NBA tickets. I hate to say it, but that's where
you're at. Particularly if it's the back end of a
back to back game. Guess what you're probably not seeing
that star. Well, you gotta plan, right, and that's built
into the math. Well, you have to, guys, and I
(43:01):
guess to guess the starting pitchers. I used to when
I was a kid, we used to say, win's Fernando.
Now you have more perfect information on that, uh, and
you do it. But like, think about the chase to
Kareem's record. Not to be labor the point too much,
but think about the chase to Kareem's record, and how
much was being spent on the secondary market for that
game against Milwaukee. You weren't buying tickets face value. You
(43:25):
went into the market, but legitimately you went into the
market place thinking you were gonna see history, and you
decided whatever that multiple was to pay and you got lucky. Right,
But I'm sorry it didn't work out for you if
you waited till that week saying, oh, it's gonna kind,
it's gonna have that's different though, if if if he
doesn't reach the mark in one game, right, but then
(43:47):
he didn't play either because he was hurt. Yeah, it's
just it's just it stings when you spend that type
of money and you have guys sitting out on purpose
because they just don't want to get tired or something
or risk getting hurt. Well. But unfortunately, again at this point,
we're at the We're at the point where I'm just
a realist that when when I go, i I the
(44:10):
laundry is still playing. I had partial season tickets for
the Lakers in Kobe's final year. You know how many
times I went to games and saw him play? Zero? No,
how many I was over six get out of he
well he how many games? How many I forget how
many he missed on the year. The point was every
(44:31):
game I had tickets too that I went play. Yeah,
but but I knew that was the case where he
was physically and where we were in the continuumgement. But
it was to a degree like Kobe was a guy
that was going to try to gut it out and
be out there, but they also still had to be
(44:51):
judicious with those minutes so that when he did play,
they got a maximum return. Right. That's kind of where
we are a little bit. Yeah, and you got to
lower the prices um when something like that happens, I guess.
But but the point I'm making with this is, you know,
if you're going into the secondary market, you know it's
it's a bit of a buyer beware. And that's not
(45:11):
to rob that's to the The whole equation of it
is that you know, especially with the NBA, you know,
guys may sit right baseball games. Not that you have
the same thing, but if you know, the Yankees come
to town, you're in Chicago or whatever possible, Judge doesn't
play one of those, Yeah, but you can go ahead
and get you know, tickets to two or three of
the games. Baseball still is way more affordable. It's the best.
(45:34):
Baseball is the best bargain in all of sports, I think.
But again it's what are you paying for it? Because
if you're paying five hundred dollars a seat, you're not
sitting in the three hundred levels. It's my point, you're
not paying You made it, but you made a choice
to go and upgrade your experience. Yeah, you're not paying
that much for baseball. I promise you that all depending
on the game, you might really really well and where
(45:56):
you want to sit. Right, if you just want to
get in most ball games you can get in for
under twenty thirty bucks. You'll play there, you go, But
I mean you'll pay more to park. But again it
becomes the what's your experience? Are you trying to sit
lower level? Are you trying to sit by the dugouts?
Then you're probably showing out game. I would have a
couple of Dodger dogs. I want to be able to
sit there and relax and and then leaving the third inning.
(46:18):
That you know, that's like typical LA fans. Wow, look
at that taking the shots at the LA fans
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