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February 28, 2023 • 40 mins

Jason Smith and Mike Harmon discuss the Lakers being without LeBron James for an extended amount of time and the rumors about the Chicago Bears trading the number one overall pick in the NFL Draft. Plus, NFL Insider Jason La Canfora joins the guys to talk current NFL topics.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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(00:21):
This is the best of the Jason Smith Show with
Mike Harmon on Fox Sports Radio. I told you, I
told you. Oh what did you tell us, Jason? What
did you tell us? What do you think he told us?
Come on, man, I'm not listening to you. There's nobody out, Mike.
What do you think it is? Think? I mean, maybe

(00:45):
it was a little bit about Machado actually signing that
contract should have been on the greatness now naddys well
me and your recognition of that after Lothie many years. No, no, no, no,
none of that, all of that, none of that. No,
I told you and you said it, Come on, what

(01:07):
do you think it is? Maybe the Mets played earlier today,
the good they did they did that was on really
early this last together with it, it gets guys, and
girls and we're gonna hook up in cabins and we're
gonna drink and we're gonna smoke, and it's this is
what we do. This is what we do. Old man,
Come on you, what what are you trying to tell me?
What are you trying to tell me? Stay? Stay? That's

(01:31):
my favorite party. Come on, tight shirts. We live dropped
Monday for that. Duh. I told you. I warned that
Tom Brady was going to be a stand up comic.
I was it. I said, it's happening, And you said,
come on, man, it's not. I told you. I said
I know, but trust me, it's happening. They're coming, and

(01:55):
your doll, they're not. They're not going. What are you?
Carson Wentz is gonna be a jam? No, he's never
gonna play again. Went to the Jets. I told you.
I told you they were I told you, and it's nah.
Come on, old man, you've been working at this gast time.
What is the guy in the hockey mask come up
and buy cigarettes from you? Come on, man, nobody buys
cigarettes anymore? Was he vapings? He might even sell vape sticks?

(02:18):
Come on, man, we don't do this, all right, Go
into the woods and go there with your own risk.
But I warned you, I told you what was gonna happen.
Don't come out of here tomorrow night and go, oh
everybody's all bloody and in missing. Oh my god, it's
like they all went into it with cocaine bear. Oh
my god, I can't. But don't come out said, don't
you're trying to disrespect the cocaine bear. Don't come out

(02:40):
here and say I didn't warn you. But I told you.
I told you the Knicks. What do you think it is, Mike,
that the heat are really coming from off the I
just said, I just told you what it was. I
told you that nobody heard you. I have no idea
what it was. We missed that part. Don't don't you

(03:01):
can't gaslight me? Okay, I'm the original gas lighter. You
can't gaslight me. I told you the Knicks, the who
out watch out for who? And look at they came
tonight for the Celtics and they walked away. One nine
ninety four a complete demolition. Jason Tatum so upset Julius

(03:23):
Randall got him injected with an incredible pass. He starts
yelling at the riff the reff goes, you're gone. Josh
Hard is saying, yeah, that's right, you're gone. I told
you about the Knicks. I told you they were coming.
They're here. Watch out, I told you. I told you.
I'm just saying, not off you get teed up after dunking.
I told you. But you know, hey, that's when you're

(03:43):
when you're getting the home cooking like the Knicks did tonight.
I mean, that's the way things you're gonna work. M
I told you, I said it. I said, watch out
their couple here they are. Look at where they're looking
at what you were saying that in September. You were
saying that all off season, no excited about the Knicks
and blah blah bla. Eventually you're going to be right
right around the trade deadline. I told you, this is

(04:05):
when it's happening. They had a big loss, and Jalen
Brunson said, you know what, We're fine. Jalen brunts maybe
one of the greatest free agent signings ever already, um
in any sport, I mean, in the history. And there
was no penalty for tampering. No, no, no, it doesn't
matter what which would it worth it? If it would
it be worth it, of course, be worth to pay
whatever it is for Jalen Brunson. I took what the
Knicks have figured it out. Not that going to get

(04:27):
Heart was this was the big thing. But he certainly
has become a pretty good guy off the bench where
guy he was a good get. The Knicks have figured
it out. Watch out here they come. They just demolished
the Celtics tonight. And if you want to go by
the the laws of of what is it not the
laws of transpontency? Not transparency? What's the laws of? What?

(04:49):
What is it? When? When? If, if X, if X
beats why and why beats? What is that called the
what's that? No, it's not the laws of Dolan. He
doesn't even know what's going on. He didn't know the
Knicks are still playing right now. He's this is the
season is still going. I don't know if we play
in February. I don't know what's at the law the
what is that? The law if A beats B and
the B is greater than see? What what is that?

(05:09):
What is that? The law of what? Harmon? Come on,
you went to Northwestern, it's allegedly a good school. You
got to know the answer to this. Wow, look at you?
What's the answer? You know what? What's at the law? Properties? There?
You go, look at that, wild are the properties of equality?
Whatever you want to do. Nick's beat the best team
in the East. Nicks are the best team in the East.
I'm looking at it right now. No, hey, you can

(05:30):
have it tonight as we get ready to round out
the month of February. February, yow want to feel good
about yourself? You feel good about yourself? Yes, I feel
Look at this, Look at this. Come on, we're the
We're the second hottest team in the NBA right now.

(05:51):
Come on, I mean just because you know the Bucks
have one like eighty five games in a row. But look,
I'm look at where we are right now. Come on, man,
we just we just demolished the self to said Jason Tatum.
Got tost This could be as good as it gets.
I get it. But here they come in your last ten,
they come here. The card has been a nice addition
as a guy quickly giving you good points off the bench.

(06:12):
Julius Randall much better player than I think he's been
given credit for him. Last year he stunk, he went
and found whatever he kind of went to the Draymond
Green school of all Right, someone in my life behind
the scenes had to tell me I sucked and I
had to get right again. For Draymond it was kids.
I don't know who Julius attributes that too, but there's

(06:34):
got to be somebody there. And Jalen Brunts has been fantastic.
That Acidine kick call that took ten minutes to review,
I mean the Celtic but the Celtics look like they
might have had a little life in him and that
killed any anything. So that was awful. That was That
might have been the longest review. You want to make
sure they get it right, I mean sometimes wrong. They

(06:57):
still got it wrong. They called the fall and then
they assess him a technical fall for following through and kicking.
It's like, what if the fall happens? None of that
ever ever occurs? Right, Well, there's lots of different look
bunch of different No, no, you gotta there's lots of
different things they have to look at. There's like the
sheer combination of things they need to look at for

(07:19):
a replay. Hey, Celtics are getting their stuff together and
getting ready to make a run. That stretched this one out, yea,
and everyone Knicks player went over there and went and
complained the officials, and at no point did they back
anybody off because they get the hell out of here.
We're trying to be efficient here. Nope, just keep dragging on.
They might as well go into a full commercial break.
That thing was so long that you're just lucky Larry

(07:41):
Bird has a hurt back. Okay, oh yeah, that's true, Larry.
He might have hit some three tonight and what happened. Oh,
Jason Tannam was terrible. Don't I mean don't. There's six
of eighteen from the field one of nine did have
seven boards, nine assists to go this fourteen points, but
he was minus eighteen four turnovers. You had the technical
fall on the dunk and then the second one, and

(08:02):
then they were trying to get him called for a
third one as he walked off the court because he
had some extra spicy language for the official, which as
you brought it out, all the backups for the Knicks
were all excited about. Julius Randold got him ejected. It
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gonna get hurt again. That's what happens to Mitchell Robinson.
It's what he does. It's like the importance of all

(08:47):
those guys that came over for the for the Lakers,
and you know Frostberg Major to tweet and text at
me fourteen times, that guy with the Jades that they're back. Now,
I'm glad you bring that up because the other big
NBA story of the day, I mean, clearly the nick
story is stop don't after General Vanderbilt had the huge game. Yes,

(09:09):
because I'm giving all credit to the secondary guys today. Yeah. No, look,
not even you could make that happen by putting Carson
Wentz the Jets in the in the want out there
say it as much as you want to, there's no
way that's happening. That shop. Yeah, look how good he
looked to Carson went just retweeted it. Say it any,
say as many times as you want to, it's not happening.

(09:29):
I'll say it, Carson, what's to the Jets? Carson, what's
the Jets? Not happening? One more time? Your Carson went
to the Jets? Not happening? Not happen. It's not happening.
I'm sorry, say it as many times you are. You
are just it's like it's like turning on the air
condition or keeping the window open. It's just running fruitlessly.
You are fruitlessly putting something out there that's not gonna happen.

(09:51):
Stop saying the fruits not gonna happen. I say, as
many times you want to, Carson, what's not happening? It's
so much better when you say it not happening. It's
not a yeah. But here's one thing. Even even if
let's just say they did, he's still better than Zach Wilson.
Maybe not that much, but he's still better than Zach
Wilson's so okay, Zach Wilson will be there to give him. Hell.

(10:14):
One thing Wentz has done, and I mean I applaud
the guy. He is pocketed of these contracts. He's just
signed these last couple of years over a hundred million dollars.
It's got a lot of cash. Man, he's done, he's done. Well,
he better Carson or Pete ou Oh, Pete, Pete. Carson
just had the one year really until he got hurt,
and then Pete Pets had a much longer, a much

(10:35):
longer career career than that. Yeah, that's that's Pete. Pretty easy. Yeah,
I don't know. Yeah, I would, I'd call it a push.
He gets a push. I gotta find another Winz. Oh,
we do need another Wentz. There's it's not many other way. Well,
there's George went from Cheers, but that's not Wentz with it.
Well he also, you know, his family with Sadakis, so

(10:57):
it all works together, all right, all right, but zadekas
Is dad went to school with my dad, so it's
it's oh, really, my life's word. You did you know
that Stafford and Kershaw went to school together? Too? How dared? Wait?
How did you not get on ted Lasso? If your
dad knows Sadacus's dad one phone call? How how are
you not Nate? How are you not Nate? You know?
The heel turn coach now for West hamd How is

(11:18):
that not? You care for what those spoilers? Man? Yeah,
exactly what are you doing? Well? The new season's gonna
start like three days. Okay, it's March fifteenth. There's still
two weeks and build up. I haven't even made my
biscuits yet. Biscuits. You can get an ice cream that
is now biscuits with the Boss ice cream. Yeah, it
doesn't look like it's the flavor that I really it

(11:39):
doesn't have enough chocolate for you. No, no, it doesn't.
You always go back to your dark master. The football
is life. But dude, your dad could have called Sadecus's
dad said you got something from my son? Actually to
guy a couple months graduated from Northwestern other you know,
other famous people are there. Can you help him out
a little bit? He's been sitting next to this lunatic
for the last seven years and I don't know he's

(12:02):
I don't know. Can you just help me? Yeah? Sure, Hey,
you can come on to be What does he know
about soccer? I don't know. But can he could he
turn from a good guy to a bad guy? Yeah? Okay,
one hundred percent boom and you could have been Nate,
you could have been the guy. Problem is I do
a heel turn every damn night. Well that's okay. We
need we need characters on television to be unpredictable. You

(12:22):
imagine if it was harm in his coach Beard, that
would be brilliant. Be sure to catch live editions of
The Jason Smith Show with Mike harmon weekdays at ten
pm Eastern, seven pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and
the iHeart Radio. A Hey, Frostburg, he's upset, he's up?
Why is he upset? As Lebron's foots broke? No? I

(12:45):
get it, but I got to ask him very important question.
I don't think he's gonna talk to you. He's not
gonna say why, why is he? What's it? I just
think he's on his wits end about this. He's he
really does seem like a broken man. I'm standing in though.
I'll answer the question. You'll answer, okay, okay, So, so
Lebron James is hurt? Okay, okay? Do you know what
team Lebron James plays for? A basketball team? Wait? Wait, wait,

(13:07):
isn't he from your favorite city? Yeah? Come on, tight shirt,
where's the thing? Oh my gosh, I have it. Okay,
not anymore. He was there, not anymore. Where do you go? Uh? Well,
first he went to the Knicks. He won three titles,
three yeah, three in a row. It was on a
different earth. You gotta come back to the one we're
on here. Then then then then he went to the Pistons,

(13:29):
won back to back titles there. Yeah, it was awesome.
Then he went to Sacramento. They won a title, loss
in the finals, and now he's with the Lakers. Did
they win in the Lakers? Uh? Yeah, they did win
a couple of years ago. Yes, it was on a
different earth. Yeah, no, no, no, but Lebron Lebron and
Magic Johnson both won co NBA Final MV. Really yeah,

(13:50):
it was pretty cool. Yeah, it's nice. Yeah, you haven't
seen that video of the play where Magic takes it
up over half court and throws the alley to Lebron.
He dunks it and they hugged. Yeah, I know it's
on there. It's there. So now standing in for Frostburg, yes,
knowing full well that Lebron James has hurt, but you
thought they were back before. How do you How does
Frostburg feel right now? All right? Let me say real

(14:11):
quick we're back baby. In other words, Lebron is inconsequential.
If you're believing in the Lakers, you believe they can
win in spite of him. Yeah, absolutely, I don't. I
don't know that you back away now because Lakers fans
that think they're back don't want to credit Lebron with
any of it. They want to credit the new players

(14:31):
and Anthony Davis. Now, we don't want to give Lebron
any credit. So now of course they're gonna say, no,
we're still good, we're still back. It's great. Yeah, Lebron,
now he's not anything. He's not anything for us. It's
all about the other guys. So I can see where
Laker fans are still in the in the hey, the
zombie Laker fans who are the we're back Laker fans.
I could see that well. But you saw even on
the night when Lebron passed Kareem abdul jabbarn did people

(14:53):
buy full in? Nah, it was inevitability, let's go, let's
finish the game, get the W and then he was
hurt and then they lost that game, right, and then
he was unavailable. And now you see, after the trade,
you've had some great success but but yeah, it's it's
one of those where he's always kind of been at
arm's length. So while they're salty, they also, I think,

(15:16):
as we talked about last Hour, recognize that that you're
you're in the end game and it's just a question
of how quickly you find that cliff. There you go.
That's pretty that's pretty deep right there. I like that. Hell,
I'm a deep thinking kind of guy. You know. I
saw Cocaine Bear and I've been really just pondering the
meaning of life thereafter. You know, it really has affected me.

(15:37):
Let me tell you, the first two thirds of Cocaine
Bear were amazingly good. I can't tell you how much
fun it was. I mean, you saw all these people
that you've seen on TV for the past twenty years,
and all big roles. It was so unbelievably fun. I'm wheezing.
There's certain scenes I'm laughing so hard and it just
kind of ends and I'm like, oh, it's oh, it's over.
It just I think it resolved all right, and like

(16:00):
in the end, I actually looked at the kids and
we had a great active crowd when we went very vocal,
and a lot of the exploted and as we're walking
out at the end, we actually had a couple of
police officers walk in and I exchanged some pleasantries with
the guy and his wife walking bat next to me,
going all right, well, who's the guy carrying in there?

(16:23):
Like what is this all about? And we had a
good laugh, you know, shook hands, and off he went
into the good night with his wife. And it was fun.
But like I thought, it might have actually been. And
I kid you not, and I say this with all sincerity.
Isaiah Whitlock, O'Shea Jackson, Junior, ray Leota Han Solo go
all the way down the line. Everybody was great. The

(16:44):
kid was great. It was like he was I don't
know how old the kids from Stepbrothers would be these days,
but it was like one of them was in that role.
And then I left going this might have actually been
the best movie I've seen at theater because I love
band Cheese. I think it's one of the finest movies
I've watched a long time. I didn't see it on

(17:04):
a big screen. I saw that once it was released
to streaming. Once actually in theater, this might have been
the most fun experience that I've had in a long
tremendously fun. Tremendously fun. All right, So yeah, there's our
there's our thirty second review of Cocaine. Isaiah Whitlock gave
it the gravitash Well. I wanted him to give his

(17:25):
line from the wire, but he didn't say it. I said,
come on, he's got to be able to say it. No,
he didn't get he was great. Now, let's talk about
your Bears for a second. Yeah, they finally everybody's now
reporting what seemed like common sense. But yeah, let's go.
I hate to say I told you so. I hate
to say, but when we first broach the Bears can
trade justin fields they pick first in the draft. We

(17:47):
we did this topic in the beginning of January, before
the last week of the regular season. Congratulations. Everybody else
was coming around to it. Now, Like I say, we're
ahead of the curve. But you know that, all right,
you listen to the show. You know that. What did
I say of the options they had? They could keep
the pick, they could trade the pick, they could they
could they could take a quarterback, not take a quarterback.
I said, watch them trade the pick. Watch them trade

(18:09):
the pick. Because the Bears are afraid, they are paralyzed
by the outcome. That's going to get them criticize the most.
They're afraid to take a quarterback there and trade Justin
Fields because what if they're wrong? What if they're wrong
about Bryce Young and Justin Fields is a star? Right,
we're afraid to take a quarterback there and trade Justin Fields.
They're afraid. They're afraid to not take a quarterback there

(18:31):
because well, we go all in on Justin Fields, and
what if Justin Fields isn't a franchise guy and Bryce
Young turns into be a franchise guy. This is how
people lose jobs. No, no, no, we don't. So what
do they want? They want what they feel is the
safest avenue, which is, let's trade the pick. Let's trade
the pick, because then we could say, well, we wanted
to make the team better. It's the least criticized angle

(18:52):
of the three. They're playing that game because they're afraid,
they're running, scared of standing up and making a big decision.
It is what they think is okay, the least criticized
thing we could do is trade the pick. Right, It's
the least criticize because then at least we can say, well,
you know, yeah, Bryce Young turned out to be number
one pick, but we had to and we traded. We
got a whole bunch for him, you know, we we
got a lot for We had to remake the team.

(19:13):
We're a bad team. We need to fill more holes
than that. We like justin fields. They feel that that's
going to be the least criticized angle on it. And
that's why they're doing is they're scared. They're scared to
make a big decision. And you can say, oh, yeah,
teams are of course, even the fact that teams are
calling you to move up to number one overall to
take Bryce Young, what does that tell you about what
the league thinks about Bryce Young? Seriously, what does that
tell you? Oh, Brad, well, we don't know. We don't

(19:35):
know what that tells you what people, what teams feel
about Bryce Young, because that's the guy they're going up
to get. No one's going up to number one to
get c. J. Stroud, They are going up to get well, no, no,
not Anthony Richardson. Those guys all go on the top ten.
Bryce Young's the guy, right, So for all of this,
we don't know if Bryce Young's a franchise choirs Bryce
Young is terrific. You have seen quarterbacks that height succeed
in the NFL. I don't know that we've had a

(19:56):
quarterback come into the NFL that can read defenses and
get to the is the way he can in a
long time. He's a he's a great pick at number one.
But yet now the Bears they want to shy away
from it because they don't want to do something bold,
because they're afraid if it doesn't work out, the criticism
they're gonna get. They're afraid, and they're taking this angle
on it because it's the most defensible angle that hopefully,

(20:16):
if if it doesn't work out, everybody can keep their jobs.
They can shrug their shoulders and say, well, we traded
the pick because we had kind of had a quarterback.
Didn't know this guy was gonna be great, or well,
you know, we traded to the pick because we were
getting a lot for him and we thought we had
a quarterback. I mean, they know if it doesn't work,
they're gonna get criticized with whatever they pick, but they
think this is going to be the least critical angle

(20:37):
on it, and that's why they're doing it. The Bears
are afraid to stand up and make a decision and
say things like, hey, um, we can restart their clock
on our quarterback and uh and and and build around
him and not have to worry about paying Justin Fields
in a couple of years. Uh we are we do.
We know that Justin Fields is great, because to me,
that's the question, is Justin Fields great? Nobody can say that.

(20:57):
And if you've had a quarterback play a couple of years,
and yes, he had a big step up this year,
that was awesome, But as Justin Fields a great quarterback,
you can't say yes. All of these reasons is why
I said, hey, they should trade that pick. They should
trade Dards, they should keep the pick, and they should
take the quarterback. Trade Justin Fields, get some stuff for
him and do it that way, and all of these
different things you can do. You can reset and maybe

(21:19):
get a franchise quarterback for the next decade plus. But
the Bears are gonna choose option three, which is we're
gonna trade the pick. There's no doubt in my mind
they trade this pick. You are all over the place
and doing the I told you so's. I'm not quite
sure following your logic because you took credit for two
things there. This was the out credit credit for a
lot of things. You a lot of things, And I

(21:39):
thought me saying that the efficacy, the greatness, the gravitas
of the movie that was Cocaine Bear was going to
be the hot take theater moment of this segment. Instead,
you're talking about running Scared. I like it. It'll play
well on social media when you tweet it, but it's
it's just the best option, right if you're not inced

(22:00):
that any of these guys is the guy, Because if
they were, then Justin Fields is gone, Like yeah, but
are think are they convinced Justin Fields is great? They're
not there. But what they're doing I think they're doing
here is that they're looking at the rest of these
guys going, he's got two years here, he's got a
year with this system. We've got one hundred and fifteen

(22:20):
million dollars. And if we trade this pick down once
or twice, we now have a bunch of other pieces
for a guy that showed out fairly well in year
one picking the groceries in polls that maybe you can
build up around the base that you have. You have
to reconstruct the defense. You have to do that a

(22:41):
better offensive line. No matter what anybody's grade was, they
were not good running back. You've got to decide what
you're doing there, whether that's a draft or free agency
or do you just bring Montgomery back and his herberg
going to be one hundred percent, but you have a
one hundred fifteen million dollars to spend. So you're looking
at Justin Fields and and trying to take it full

(23:02):
on or any of these guys decidedly better than he
is going forward because the reset of two years, Okay,
that's fine, it's it's a reason possibly, but I don't
think it's that high of one that you jump off
if you think Fields can play. If anything, if it
all goes disastrously, you may have enough picks that you

(23:22):
can trade back in and grab one of the guys
next year that are supposed to be quote generational guys,
you know, like we do every two to three years
generation the Yeah, but you have the number one pick now,
like but if you don't know, but if it's not
a guy that you think is the guy, is the
point it's up running scared, Like if you I mean,
they're gonna talk to all these guys that's lost in

(23:42):
all of the the excitement of something that was said
a long time ago. Trade the number one pick. Go
go bolster your your roster because you need a lot
of help. But they're going to talk to all the
quarterbacks at the combine. Yeah, but the fact they're already
leaning towards trading the pick without what does that tell you?
What does that tell you? They're afraid. They're afraid. They know,
they know what the criticism is going to be. They

(24:03):
don't want to get this decision wrong, so they're gonna
take the least the decision because they're off and scared.
Every out of the sun times writers are gonna say,
or what you were someone, No, no, no, no, no,
no no, they're marride man. No no, no, man, you're
not even better. Man, you're not even listening to me,
because what I said was if you were paying attentions
that are going oh man, the Bears are gonna criticized.

(24:25):
Is that if it doesn't work out and the Bears
stink and they don't take a quarterback and Bryce Young
turns into a superstar, everybody's getting fired. If they decide
we're gonna stick with Justin Fields and he's not any good, well,
guess what. Anybody's getting fired. You had a chance to
get a quarterback there. That's what's gonna happen. So it's
of course people on social media are gonna go crazy
about it, but they're looking at Hey, if we're wrong

(24:46):
about this, we're all gonna get fired. That's that. How
do I keep the job? Let's trade the pick. We
don't want it, we don't want to. Let's trade the pit.
Let's trade the pick. They're doing it before they even
talk to anybody. So what does that tell you about? Oh,
we really want to leave no stone unturned before we
do this. We're gonna look into it. All these guys
here we like, we haven't talked to the guys yet.
So I'm telling you, we'll see, We'll see. Be sure
to catch live editions of The Jason Smith Show with

(25:09):
Mike Harman weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven pm Pacific
with us Now on the Hotline, longtime NFL insider Odyssey,
Washington Post. He's on Twitter at Jason Locke and fora
that's the aforementioned Jason Locke and forward Jay. What's happening, buddy,
what's going on? Gentlemen? Welcome an I'm wondering what the

(25:29):
Jets would have to give up If it's a lot
to move up and get Bryce Young instead of all
these other quarterbacks that they're looking at right now. Yeah,
it would require quite a bit, and I think I
think the Texans are gonna end up making that happen. There's,

(25:49):
you know, obvious reasons why they would be more sort
of preferential than some other teams given you're not moving
down that far. If this is a scenario where the
Bears want to move down, they feel like their quarterback
of the future is not Bryce Young, right who. I
think the industry has been at least people in this

(26:11):
league or I talked to, have been pretty convinced that
Nick Cassio's guy is Bryce Young. So if that's not
the Bears guy, but one of these other quarterbacks is,
and you only moved down a spot, and you're not
losing out on someone you wanted, and you're also trading
justin fields for whatever that nets you, you could if

(26:34):
you do this correctly, and I don't think the powers
that be there are necessarily equipped to do so. There's
a reason this organization has been as bad to mediocre
as it's been for as long as it's been. But
you could like concoct the scenario where they come out
of this looking like they're playing chess and others are
playing checkers. But again, that is going to require a

(26:57):
lot of acumen in turning these picks into players, which
has hasn't been a whole lot of that happening there,
but for a regime that now is sort of on
the clock because a new team president's coming in, Kevin Warren,
who's going to be overlooking everything that happened before he
got there, including the hiring of you know, Polls and
eber Flews, who I don't think we're you know, guys

(27:17):
who were going to get jobs elsewhere a year ago.
We'll see how all this plays out. Finally, not a
McCaskey calling the shots though, in terms of those team
presidents after one hundred and three years, yeah, or Ted Phillips,
who's basically just a well, yeah, exactly, that's what That's
what he was for all those years. Now, Jason's really

(27:39):
nervous because we keep sending him pictures of Carson Wentz
in a Jets uniform. I'm not worried about I'm really
not worried about that. You know, I'm not worried about it.
I think they can do better than that. I think
that's where Car ends up. Um. Now, Aaron Rodgers is
I guess, out of his coffin and he's sort of

(27:59):
entering the equation a little bit. But you know, no
one was going to give him what he really wanted
car up front, otherwise that had been done. But I
still think when this musical, you know, gam of musical
Chairs really starts heating up here, that that's going to
make the most sense for him and them. And you know,
I'm guessing at this point they're going to get him

(28:21):
at their price because nobody's paying his price. So so
you think whatever's going on right now, it's gonna be
so so the big things Texans are going to number
one for Bryce Young and the Jets are gonna end
up with Derek Carr. So I should I should change
my avatar of Aaron Rodgers as a jet on Twitter
to Derek Carr as a jet on Twitter. Well, if

(28:43):
I were you, I would prefer Derek Carr because, like
the floor is not nearly as low, Like the floor
with Aaron Rodgers is mega dysfunctional, right, Like he forces
them to throw even more guaranteed money at them. He
really is as cooked as he seemed to be this year.
He requires them to bring in back to Harry and

(29:05):
you know what I mean, and Randall Cobb and the
whole put the whole band back together again. None of
them can play either, and you set yourself back you know, years, years, years, years, years,
plural like, whereas with Derek Carr, it's a whole lot
less back, you know, Like I mean, I don't think
Derek Carr is any kind of franchise ceut, you know, salvation,

(29:25):
And I think he comes with limitations and warts too,
But it's clear again he's not going to break the
bank or it would have already happened. And I don't
think he like it's not as much drama as Aaron Rodgers,
I mean, Aaron Rodgers in New York playing the role
of GM, putting the proverbial financial gun to your head
and demanding you know, more additions and alterations to his contract,

(29:52):
trying to dictate personnel and oh my goodness, and doing it,
you know, under the bright lights of Gotham. I just
don't know, you know, I don't think that ends well.
Now we've seen report after report of restructuring of veteran
deals in Green Bay. Does that mean Aaron Rodgers at
a staying in Green Bay? No? No, I don't think

(30:13):
he wants them, and I don't think they want him,
And no one's gonna make it easy for anybody. And
they're so far down this road that it can't be easy.
Like it's been so uncomfortable and so messy for so long,
and now they've reached yet another milepost where the contract
is even more cumbersome than ever, and he's worse than ever.
And you know, they're more excited about Jordan Love than

(30:36):
probably anytime since they drafted him. Whether that's misguided or not,
we'll find out. I just think you've got the culmination
of a lot of things going on here that are
leading to his exit. But it won't be clean, it
won't be easy. It will be messy, and he likes
it that way. And he's holding all the cards because

(31:00):
they let him hold them hostage too straight off seasons,
and now he's created a scenario where he has I mean,
he's always had all the leverage, but now I mean,
by Galli fifty nine million fully guaranteed, he's really got
all the leverage now to take this in the Jordan
Love direction, which is nice to talk about a Green
Bay Packers quarterback, not Aaron Rodgers. Is this the Packers

(31:20):
are they hoping because you know, we've only seen a
little bit of him and you have no idea what
he's going to be. But if they're ready to move
on the desire to see him on the field, Hey,
you went up to get him saying this is our
guy for to be a monicum of conviction in that.
I mean, he sat for three years, Like we're at
the fifth year option, you know point in time where

(31:41):
you know in this spring in May, they're gonna have
a decision to make, and the kids played no meaning
for football Like that all happened, and your roster is
not nearly as good now as it was then, right,
And it's totality and you're vision as a whole lot
better now than it was then. And like what could

(32:09):
you trade Jordan Love for? You know what I mean?
Like the he's got to play, he's gotta play, and
he's gotta play for the Greenbay Packers Like that has
to happen. Come you know, hell or high water, good,
bad and different. He could be mediocre as hell. He
could be transcendent, he could be god awful Like that's
got to come out in the watch at a certain point,
especially when the other guy is not even not an

(32:31):
MVP anymore. He's not even a league average starting quarterback,
and he's got the worst argue with the worst contract
in the league. And you look at all that and
where they are and where they are used of you,
the cap and the way they're managed, and they've gone
over their skis a couple of times now to try
to win one more time with Aaron Rodgers. News flash,

(32:52):
she's had nation. You're never winning a damn thing again
with Aaron Rodgers. You got your one title with him,
just like you got your one with five. It is
what it is. Thirty plus years of watching them painfully
destruct my beloved Chicago team, mister Locke and for and
they got two titles for it. That's it. Well, that's right.

(33:16):
But given the level of dominance, the only walk away
with two. Yeah, that's that's okay. I'm sure a lot
of saltiness. Yeah, yeah, that that is what it is,
all right, talking about things being suspect. Let's go out
to your neck of the woods and the Washington Commanders
with Daniel Snyder. I get to say, I mean, I mean,
you want to choose your own adventure. We'll get we'll

(33:38):
get to the money, we'll get the Orioles, We'll get
their exactly. Say, hey, owners need to indemnify him against
future legal liability if you were to sell. You've got
all right reports that he's banned some folks from the
bidding process altogether. Uh chaos. I don't think he walks
away cleanly in any way, shape or form, And I
think it's all a ruse in terms of selling. It's

(34:02):
a billionaire boys Club monopoly who make the rules up
as they go along. And the reality is the way
they truly reset their generational, multi generational wealth is by
maximizing the worth of these franchises when any one of
the individuals within their monopoly billionaire Boys Club decides to sell.

(34:24):
So the idea that if this does come to pass,
that Jeff Bezos has five hundred million dollars or more
on the table than anybody else, that the league is
going to let him, you know what I mean, sell
to somebody else on his terms with you know, these
requirements that nobody can come after me post taste, and

(34:47):
you know, it's it's like my tenure in the NFL
never existed, and even though I made you know, nine
gazillion returns on my investment, We're going to let everything
I did fall by the wayside. Like I. It doesn't
work that way. It doesn't work that way. And the
reality is they can get ugly with him. They can say,

(35:09):
you know, we're all in this to maximize our finances,
and you can't leave that money on the table because
you don't like the other guy who's going to take
over a franchise that you did nothing but run into
the ground and minimize their revenue streams, whereas we think
he can maximize their revenue streams and he can get
a stadium built that you will never get built, and
it'll get a new practice facility built that you could

(35:29):
never get built, and it'll actually sell tickets what you
can't do. So I don't think they just you know,
turn a blind eye all that. So the reality is
they can say, hey, we're sitting on this report and
we know a whole lot about you, and we can
release it all to the right people, and we could
just vote you out and we've got you. You don't

(35:50):
have us. You know, do you want to be able
to sell this thing for the maximum profit or do
you want this to get really really ugly and us
to drag you deep through the mud and maybe just
rip this franchise out of your hands for cause, Like
he's always up for a legal battle. But I think
at the end of the day, he'd take his six
billion and go home to London or wherever the hell

(36:13):
he lives now, I don't know. I think that's probably
where it's it's headed. And he's gonna save a rattle,
and he doesn't want it to happen on their terms.
He doesn't want this to be sold at the upcoming
league meetings. He'd like to drag it out. He'd like
to have the next guy start from behind right like

(36:33):
inherit it in October where he can't really do anything
year one, And I mean, it's just so much. There's
a degree of pettiness to this that is just staggering.
But that's how he rolls. So I think it gets
muddied up. It gets muddled for a while, but ultimately, guys,

(36:53):
you know this and this league more than anything else,
money talks, and if they have a chance to get
a team sold for six billion versus five point five billion.
They're going to do everything they can to get this
team under duress with no stadium, with the garbage practice facility, right,

(37:15):
with no significant wins in twenty years that he's owned
the team, like, with none of that sold for six billion.
That's what they care about more than anything else. All right, Jay,
lastly we stay there for for the other big story
of the day. Carson Wentz is finally let go by
the commanders. Nothing we weren't expecting. Does he play again?

(37:36):
Does somebody say, hey, does he play? Someone signing to
be back, because there's been questions the last couple of
years about hey, maybe not the greatest leader, maybe not
the most coachable guy. Do you want that? Is that
attractive enough to have him as a backup quarterback? Well?
I mean, look, if a guy's making three and a
half to five million dollars, how much of a problem
can he be? You know, Like really, who's who's he

(37:56):
a threat to? You know what I mean? Like how's
he dividing the locker room? Like? Whose team? Arson? At
this point in time? I think it just depends on
like does he want to be a guy who's content
to be in that sort of tax bracket right to
make that sort of money with a team that hopes,
worst case scenario, he's got to start three or four

(38:16):
games for us because the other guy gets dinged up.
But that's it. Like I don't know where he is mentally,
but like the idea that that and look, I don't
want him as starting quarterback and I don't want him
in a position where if he thinks he's competing for
the starting quarterback job, because that has created issues in
multiple locker rooms now. But like as a higher gun backup,

(38:38):
you know who's clearly a backup on a team or
the starter is making three times more than him, five
times more than him, you know what I mean, Like
it's clear the delineation, Like could he gets in where
he fits in and sort of just understand that that
is his role and that's stipulated, and like if you
become a problem, we're just going to cut your ass.

(39:01):
I think there's a job for him somewhere in that capacity,
if he's willing to take it. He's on Twitter at
Jason Locke and four That is at Jason Locke and four.
I check out his latest on Odyssey and the Washington Post.
Jay is always buddy, appreciated, my friend. Enjoy the week.
We'll talk to you, buddy. You got it man, No Lamar,
No Hopkins were crossed. That was boy, all right. I

(39:23):
got off easy. Well. We had a lot, well, you
had we had a lot on day. We had a
lot of commanders, man, I mean we had a lot
of commanders. Stuff. Commanders come first. Yeah, I went to
the Jets and Lamars. We got plenty of time for
that messiness. In college basketball, only one game involving the
top twenty five with the new poll out today. Number

(39:43):
seven Baylor leads fifty five forty two at Oklahoma State
under eight minutes to go. Unranked Iowa State is ahead
forty nine forty six against West Virginia with twelve minutes
to go. The top five spots in the new AP
pole remained the same, led by number one Houston. Virginia
failed to number thirteen. Former Virginia basketball coach Terry Holland
passed away last night at the age of eighty. In

(40:04):
the NHL, the Boston Bruins, trying to win yet again,
are leading three two at Edmonton with twelve minutes to go.
Connor McDavid of the Oilers did score his fiftieth goal
of the season. Yes, the Washington Commanders released quarterback Carson
Wentz and the Dodgers new starting shortstop Gavin Luks was
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