March 16, 2023 • 33 mins
Jason Smith, Mike Harmon, and Rich Ohrnberger joining the guys tonight discuss that Arron Rodgers wants to be with the Jets next season, Edwin Diaz while celebrating during the World Baseball Classic injured himself, Ezekiel Elliott's time with the Cowboys is coming to an end, and Odell Beckham Junior may have a new future ahead of him!
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Sports Radio. Six words six words uttered earlier today, Forever
change the National Football League. I want to be a jet. Words.
You've never been uttered death ever in the history of
the NFL. I want to be a jet. You go
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into the darkness, You go into the chaos and try to,
you know, d displace yourself from all the noise, the
surroundings and everything, and your beacon of light becomes the
New York Bleeping Jets. This is really the multiverse come
to life for all of us. And clearly you have
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screamed yourself horse in the process. We bring in our
third member of our crew tonight, because well he's someone's
got to talk some sensity as well, and god knows,
I've been trying for a decade. Rich Hard Burger, our
teammate here at Fox Sports Radio here in mornings seven
sixty down in Satin Diego weekends here Fox Sports Radio
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kind enough to join in the party in the festivities
here on a Wednesday night. I Ritchie, Hey, what's going on? Yeah,
I cannot believe what we're hearing out of the voice
box of one Aaron Rodgers that he wants to join
the likes of a Vinny test of Verdi. He wants
to be renowned like a Chad Pennington. He wants to
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join y a tittle and retire a New York Jet
one day in the Hall of Fame. Aaron Rodgers, I mean,
unless something goes seriously, seriously sideways, is going to be
a New York Jet. I'm pretty shocked. I mean, I
really honestly didn't know if we'd see this day, if
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we'd see this thing come to fruition. Frankly more so
for the Jets, because it wasn't but like two weeks
ago that they were promising Derek Carr a bust in Canton. Uh,
And now here we are today with this news. So
a little bit of an about face in their off season,
but the transition may work out for them. Greatest days
in Jets history, super Bowl three. But today, that's a
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great day. Day, not a great day. You've got that, Paul,
and you've done nothing else. No, no, no, five decades,
Joe name it. We have to have a benchmark for
those five decades of ineptitude. And that's it. Nameth walking
off the feel with his finger raised up and today
and Aaron Rodgers on the Pat McAfee show. That is it.
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That is the That is the Jets franchise summed up
in one sentence. That's that's there. By the way, I
do need to do this because we gotta make sure
he was a giant at the end. Why a title?
Yeah he never he never became a Jet Rich Richards
just taking shots right now because this is out tonight
twenty apparently I'm gonna hit you here, Okay, great, all right, Yeah,
I apologize. I honestly, I couldn't tell you which New
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York team he might have played for, the New York Titans,
for all we know. The point is, Aaron Rodgers joins
a cast of characters and most notably Joe Namath at
the quarterback position. Um but but none better really honestly
representing New York's calamitous unfortunate, uh recent history at quarterback.
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Then Mark Sanchez and that faithful date November twenty second,
twenty twelve. Oh do you want to hear it? I
was there about the last time they played on. I
wouldn't need here for it. I know that. I think
the years. Yeah, I think just one more time for
old time's sakes. Tom Moore than an indianapois, the offensive
poor never, you're gonna bust it. Play here and then
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Lens Changes gets hit. The ball is loose and it's alive.
I have never seen this before in my life. Watch this.
Vince Wilfork is gonna throw Brandon Moore back into He's
gonna fumble a football. This is what Reggie White used
to do to people, fork lift them and just lift
them off the ground. Mark Sanchez not expecting it, and
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it was the backside of Brandon Moore to knock the
ball out. I like the naive te of rich By saying, hey,
let's hear this one more time, like we're not gonna
hear it like fifty times, Like we don't hear it
fifty times every night on the show. Well, just one
more time to hear one more time. But the other
thing Rich hasn't heard it in a while, but it's
the one. So the idea we got several months of
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lead up, because at this point we still only have intentions.
I can intend to lose seventy five pounds, but if
my face keeps running into Big Max and large Fries,
I'm probably not going to achieve that. Likewise, we're still
at a position where things are in a bit of
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is where Aaron Rodgers now claims the New York Jets.
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Are you okay? Everybody? Just stop? This is gonna be fun.
You guys are gonna have your jollys tonight by saying, oh,
he's still at pack and tomorrow and the day after
that gave everybody left bridge over there in Green Bank.
I'm sorry, but this is happening. You cannot like it.
You can be upset that finally my team, I get
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a day in the sunshine. But this trade is happening.
You get Russell of this year. It's happening. I like
the trade. I gotta be honest, if they consummate this thing,
if all of a sudden we got Aaron Rodgers rocking
the uh the Nick Cage look from Conair walking into
training camps Cornell or wherever the Jets hold themselves up
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these days for their training camps. I like it, And
I also like what he's doing in the midst of
all this. I know this is going to sound rare
from somebody, but I completely an utter support what Aaron
Rodgers is doing. So it is so often that players
get steamrolled by ownership, that players get traded their family lives, uh,
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their their financial lives, their security switches on a dime,
and there's nothing they can really do about it. Um.
But when you see a player exerting their leverage, I
feel like it's a win for the working man. Now.
I understand, we're talking about a millionaire and a lot
of people will say, well, he's a spoiled millionaire. A
lot of people consider him kind of douchey. But here's
my take on Aaron Rodgers. He is thumbing his nose
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at the man. He's saying, damn the man, We've done
it your way for a long time, and now I'm
gonna give a shopping list to the New York Jets
and I'm gonna see if they'll bend over backwards for me. Now,
he denied those claims, and maybe there's some truth to that.
Maybe he wasn't exactly forceful with a shopping list of
free agents, but maybe he had mentioned on the sly Hey,
you know, wouldn't hurt if you got my buddy Alan
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a little taste. How about how about reaching out to Cobb?
How about how about mister Lewis and maybe oh b J.
I mean we all saw him on Twitter with his
shirt off in Arizona. Maybe give those fellows a call too. So,
I don't know, I think this is kind of cool.
I think it's a power play from from from the
side of the fence that normally doesn't get to exert
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this level of leverage. He's a busy dude, man, quarterback,
Bears owner, Jets general manager. That's a lot of things
to go through. Man, that's really that that I mean,
you are trying to every day, Well what do I
do here? What do I do today? I own the Bears.
I gotta figure something else out. Well, now I gotta
get these guys in for the jets. I got to
And it's fine that he wants to do it. It's
fine because he's all we need and we're going to
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the super Bowl. That's all that. He's all we need.
He's he's the center of the donut. He's he's the
cream filling of the donut. He's the only thing we need.
We have everything else. Super Bowl, It's happening. You guys,
just get ready for it. I cannot wait to hear, Like,
what's next on the list? Like we did the ayahuasca
you know, we did the Darkness Retreat? I mean, what
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is next on the list of things that Aaron Rodgers
is going to experience? And and then you know, kind
of inconcurrent, like how is the New York media going
to handle this? Because Green Bay, I mean that's one thing.
The national media is another thing. But when you have
a feisty and furious local media in the biggest media
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market in this country, if Aaron Rodgers disappears and he says,
you know, I'm gonna do a seven day Lost at
Sea adventure. I'm gonna recenter my chee. I'm really really
interested what like Newsday does with that story. But it's
like anything, if you're playing well, they they'll shut the
hell up. Yeah right, I mean they may not like it.
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They may grouse somebody. You'll still have the the Yackers
on New York Radio getting after it and talking to
the guys from the Bronx and whatever. But in the end,
if you're winning, hey, you don't kill a good formula, Mike.
You could take out the winning They're not gonna win.
No, no no, no, I look, it was all theoretical here.
I'm trying to be nice, Joe. They's all theoretical. Be no, no, no,
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let's let's call it what it is. You want to
talk about. What what's gonna wind up happening? Maybe you
had four teams that you're battling just in the division,
let alone. The AFC is when everybody is going to
the press conference waiting for Aaron Rodgers, like two days
after the game, and it's like, where's Aaron. We're all ready,
We're all like bead like, oh no, no, he's not
talking to you. Guys today he's talking to Pat McAfee instead.
Oh is he? And then they sharpen their pens. Oh
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is he's gonna go talk to that guy and not
talk to us. Oh yeah, Aaron, I'll fix you. I
got something for you right here, man, I got something
for you. What was my number? Samini? But when I
stick by it, right Samini? Serbie. Those guys they can
get edit. They've got acid tongues, and they're write with
the poison pen when they need to. And then they're
brilliant and they've been doing this a long time. But
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if you're winning, they can only complain and bitch so much, right,
I mean, that's just the way this game works up
until the bye week. I mean the Jets, who were
one of those teams early in the season where you
really did say, hey, look out, Robert Sala. Year two,
things are starting to coalesce, Zach. I mean it's great, right, yeah? Yeah,
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high water rich yea wait wait do we have that,
Zach Wilson? Do we listen? Listen, listen. We don't need
to hear from Zach Wilson today, just so we do
not need to hear from it all today. We do
not it's gonna be when he out nays Aaron Rodgers
in the starter. No, no, okay, I just want him
to be out over his shoulder, just as I'm gonna
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give that guy hell. Let me let me. Yeah, I'm
gonna give Aaron Rodgers hell at practice. You see where
I threw that ball, Aaron you can Oh you could
do that? Oh that's pretty cool. No, I'll tell you
what my big my big concern is is, Okay, what's
my one fear with Aaron Rodgers coming to the Jets.
They're not They're gonna give up too much because we
already know the packers aren't getting multiple first round picks.
Whatever money they pay, I don't care the money. He's
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all they need. What's going to happen. The biggest thing
I'm afraid of is that as soon as he's a Jet,
he's gonna go through what Russell Wilson went through last year,
where suddenly all the stuff that happened behind closed doors
that might not put a good optic on Aaron Rodgers
is gonna come out because they no longer have to
protect him. All the drama that he's had for now
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the last fifteen years. You're gonna see stories. Oh did
you know this happened with Aaron rod He took everybody's
food off of their plate after a game when they
didn't play well. He said, nobody should be able to eat,
you know, certain things like that, because what do we
deal with with with Russell Wilson. Same thing last year,
all these stories about what went on behind closed doors
in Seattle because they didn't have to protect him anymore.
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And you know there's crazy stuff because it's Aaron Rodgers.
That's the one thing is that every few weeks are
we going to be playing football games? And then oh,
by the way, on Monday, here's another bombshell, a story
out of Green Bay that they have to refute. That's
my big fear that they're gonna have to fight that
battle too. Well. You know, Seth Wickersham is like he's
converging on the small sleepy town of green Bay, Wisconsin
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right now to absolutely I mean, he's going to be
in every nook and cranny of that city trying to
get to the source of the story because it was
it was Seth in the and the gang over there
at ESPN who broke the fractured relationship between Tom Brady
and Bill Belichick. And that was during the decade or
I should say two decade long regime there in New England.
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I'm really curious to your point, what gets uncovered now
now that now that everybody doesn't need to keep all
the dirt swept into the corners. Now everybody can be like,
all right, I guess we could let our hair down
a little bit. And whether it's short term, whether it's
a long term, you know, there's more to this story.
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It's just kind of a quiet little hamlet there in
the north of this great country. And they've really protected
him for a while because if they didn't, well, the
end result could have been something that would have kneecapped
the franchise for years to come. Well, if Aaron Rodgers
going to exit before his time is truly finished and
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retire Green Bay Packer and the short term, then maybe
everybody's gonna feel okay taking out the flamethrower. So that's
a great point, you, Mick. I mean, there's probably going
to be some shock and awe campaign Rich We're gonna
find out it wasn't even a darkness retreat. Well, you know,
that's always a possibility. He may force the Jets to
sign Miles Teller. I like the fact that you used
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Hamlet in that vein I go to, of course, to
my Shakespeare in roots and talking about guys of indecisiveness
and being kind of whiny and off to the side,
and that it really blaze here. And I don't it is.
It is a tangled web that is probably going to
become a much cleaner I I don't know, man, this
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is the way I look at it. I look at
it this way. I know there's a lot of Aaron
Rodgers slander, and I know that is the path most taken,
But in this one occasion, I can really, truly, and
I mean this from every inch of my soul, support
what he's doing. Because if I had that kind of
leverage to exert, or anybody for that absolutely, I mean
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I'm sent I would one thousand percent be exerting that lever.
You went a thousand percent, I just went to one hundred.
I'll take it to a million, pal done, how about
two million percent? How about five million percent? Let's go,
let's go to twenty million? Just out of control? Oh please, Jason,
press your voice. Let's go. Jet's winning one super Bowl?
Why not too? Super Bowl? Why not five? Why not
the next five Super Bowls? Yeah? Yeah yeah. Be sure
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with us tonight as we celebrate Aaron Rodgers Christmas, the
day Aaron Rodgers intends to play with the Jets. He
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intends to play with the Jets. Hey, I'll take I'll
take the news as it comes, all right, I'll take
the news as it comes. Now. I think I can
understand Riches wanting to make fun of the Jets earlier.
I mean, I'm gonna say something rich and if it's
too personal, let me know. Because you know, as Harmon
say too personal, I know you are probably very upset
and you are feel a little bit bitter that you
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were not on the list of players Aaron Rodgers wanted
the Jets to sign. And I'm sure that's where a
lot of what the what the last few minutes came from.
It was a pretty long list. There were guys on
that list. There were guys you played with. In fact,
I think half of them were guys on the line
with you. But I'm sorry that he didn't. He didn't
ask for you. I think that's what it is. Well,
I you know it, fine, you got it. You vouted me,
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and this is a personal vendetta. Now I'm gonna spike
the next batch of iowaska te. I know. Here's the
here's the reality. I don't have a dog in this fight.
I promise you. I haven't been kind of innoculated the
way that that that maybe Harmon has been over the
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years to the intense amount of Jets talk that you
expose him to, almost like open radiation on a night
in Incredible Hulk over here, Gamma raised baby, let's go.
It's just penetrating every cell in his body on an
on a nightly basis. You know I I I actually
think the Jets they have a decent young core. I
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think Joe Douglas has done a nice job building them up.
I think Robert sala is probably the steady, mature, responsible, savvy,
defensive minded coach that a team needs. If you're gonna
bring in a wily veteran quarterback like Aaron Rodgers who's
gonna have a lot of sway with that offense now,
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so it's a little bit of hey, listen, I'm gonna
give that man what he wants and I'm gonna stay
out of the way. I'm gonna worry about my side
of the fence. I'm gonna let Aaron handle the offense,
and I think that could be a working relationship. The
problem is they don't have him yet, so there is
a little bit of this feeling of like, until it's done.
How it's like it's like the Jason movies. Until we
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know he's like dead and not still slowly walking in
the background carrying a machette, the credits don't roll, and
then even then a hand will pop out through the
grass and you know there's gonna be a sequel, or
a third or a fourth, a trilogy. I don't know
what is beyond a trilogy, but you get my point.
We don't know if this is actually gonna get done
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until it gets done. Listen, that's a minor detail. It's
an absolute minor detail. He's not a jet yet. It's
going to happen, and when it gets pass through, they
just call a movie a series, so it will be
the Aaron Rodgers. It'll be a series of Super Bowl victories, Harmon.
I think maybe one time will even beat the Bears.
Will be justin fields. You guys will make it there
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and we will beat you at some point and he
will still be the Bears owner. I will stand there,
you know what, getting that trophy from Dan Patrick and
Terry Bradshaw and say I still own you, I still
own you. What's gonna happen. That's fine. Once he actually
gets it done and he's out of the division, I
get to pop that bottle of champagne victory for me. Now,
I need you to pause, because what I'm about to
tell you after I do a little business here might
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bring you down. This coming from Jeff Passon. Edwin Diaz
has been helped off the field, putting no weight on
his right leg. Play down during the celebration, plays he
closed out the old chair down the tunnel. He did
raise his arm to acknowledge the crowd, went down during
the celebration, grabbing his right knee. Had a good run.
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Oh boy. This is why I love the World Baseball Classic.
This is why I love the WBC. That's why I
love it. I'm not gonna sleep tonight. Now now I'm
not gonna sleep. I went for it. No, no, I
gotta focus on Aaron Rod from the Lows. That's it, you, Rob.
This is what it's like, Rich, Yeah, this is what
it's like. It's good. It's the good, the bad, the ugly.
With this guy during a celebration, he's all dancing around.
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He's fired up. They win, he's fired up, he's celebrating,
and down he goes. Oh no, that's a final. What's
the name of the trumpeter that was just blaring that,
Tommy Jimmy Trump? Does he know taps? Yeah? Because unfortunately
it's um, it's over before it started in New York, Jason,
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I don't know if you heard the part he's not
putting any weight on his right leg. No, No, they
carry they I watched them carry him off the field.
I watched take him off on a wheelchair. I watched
him wave to the crowd. And then I want to
go drink more. Ayahuascati, because I want this to be
just a vision and something that didn't happen. I really okay,
but you have to listen really closely. It's broke. It's broke.
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Stop stop stop stop. That's not that's I mean, that's
like we're just kind of taking Passon's words and and
and taking all the other accounts here, and we're just
kind of parsing it down to um, well, something everybody
can understand. I had no idea that. And when Diaz
had the Bakersfield accent, incredible, absolutely incredible. I mean, I mean,
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this is this is how it goes for the Mets.
It's like, it's like, Okay, Jason, here's what's gonna happen. Now.
You can't have nice things for both of your teams.
So you're gonna get Aaron Rodgers today. Well, I'm gonna
get him. No, you're gonna get him saying he wants
to come. Okay, that's great. I'll take that for today. Okay,
but I gotta take something else from you. What what
do you mean? What do you mean I gotta take
something else? What do you gotta take? I gotta take
Edwin Diaz? What do you mean I gotta take? It's
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the deal with the Devil Man. Have you not watched
all these movies that's going down to the crossroads? Believe
great work. You're gonna get in front of massive crowds.
What's gonna what's gonna happen. Well, you're gonna become the
latest of the twenty seven club. It's oh, it's not
just a trade for a third round pick, it's also
for Edwin Diaz's knee. The Great, the Great Creator needs
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to be appeased. This is I mean, this is man.
They're just having their way with you. It's an intense
knife for Jason. I feel really, actually bad about this
as a Mets Jets fan. This is this is the
life you've chosen. Though you were aware of this as
a youngster, were you not? But I was? I? No, no,
I was too young to be asked to make such
a big choice. Come on, man, I can't make no, no, no,
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I can't do that. You asked me as a young
man of six years old. Hey, you like baseball? Yeah?
You like football? Yeah? What teams do you want to pick?
I don't know. The Mets and the Jets are really colorful.
The other teams wear dark uniforms. I kind of like
watching the Colors on TV. Okay, there's your choice. You
don't know what you just did? Oh what did I
just do? Now? I've had a lifetime of this, right,
I could have picked the Yankees and the Giants. And
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I think about this all the time, and I would say, boy,
I would have had like a bunch of World Series
and the Respect and the Giants. I would have had
Super Bowls. We'd beat Brady twice. It would have been
so great. No, no, no, I picked the Mets and
the Jets, And this is what I you'd be here
and telling everybody that you ignore the regular season on
Eli Manning because of those Super Bowl wins, as opposed
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to what you normally say about Eli. Mike. So, how
does this work? Do you get your money back on
the Mets tickets for the World Series after this? You know,
unfortunately you've made that bet. It's a final. But here's
the thing. This guy likes to spend money. He'll go
find another would be closer somewhere, and it won't be
a trumpet this time. Belly Wagner, you want to come back.
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Cohen spends money on players like he's ordering Domino's pizza.
I agree with that. I do think that they though
the purse strings will be wise. The guy down in
San Diego. Yeah, but he's as good point as good point.
You're not even done yet. You still got another half
of a billion dollars. Oh man, that's Soto deal. It
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is just I mean, was that Cidler guy rich to chill? Okay?
I mean yeah, right, that's it. That's what you're hearing
from other teams around MLB. They're like, Hey, you know,
if if it weren't for Cohen and Sidler, we'd all
look like just kind of greedy bastards. But now because
they're spending at this rate, well, actually that is a
silver lining right there. Though. For Jason, he's got an
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owner who appears to be committed to spending massive amounts
of money to ply the fan base with the superstars
that now they just have to go and do something
with the team, Okay, So to feel good about it,
I would say, yes, we're gonna go spend that money
and go get a closer. Secondly, though, it's like he's
the best closer in the game. We just gave him
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twenty million dollars, we am one hundred million dollar contract,
and he's one of those rare guys that can handle
New York. He can handle the pressure. He can handle
the pressure of closing. When he had a really bad
year two years ago, Hey that was you know, I'm fine,
I'm fine, I'm fine, and it was Oh man, dude,
this guy's really got to get it. This trade we
made is awful and oh deah. But now Diz turns
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out to be great and he can handle New York
and it's we're all going forward. He was great. We
can't even make it to the regular season without this.
Usually in June is when things start happening for the Mets,
but no, no, no, we're ramping it up now because
of the WBC. And here it is in March, and
here's here's a big injury. Now, yes it's a flukey injury.
But I always this is why I can't stand the WB.
But we had it the other day with Freddie Freeman, right,
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the same kind of concern here in Dodgerville. No, nothing
to see there, Mike. In the end, there was nothing
in the moment there. There was a lot of consternation
and and sweating because of the number of guys that
had already left the squad this offseason and questions throughout
the lineup. And you get a bit of a hand
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and alright, is gonna keep barking this one? Uh well,
we haven't got an official word, but that didn't look good,
did not look good, especially the way the players were reacting.
You know, it reminded you a little bit of of
the thiseman injury you had. I one of the wait wait, wait,
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wait a minute, that yeah, one of the rich Wait
a minute, that didn't happen, Okay yet one of yeah,
one of the infielders turning around and waving to the
trainers like like he he like he was cut down
all the way to the bone. Maybe maybe both, maybe honestly,
who knows. Here's here's the here, Okay. The problem is
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the silver lining is, yeah, you have an owner who
likes to spend for the Mets, but you have an
owner now in Aaron Rodgers, because he's calling all the
shots in New York, who wants to spend all the
money on these free agents who um are got one
foot on you know, their retirement paperwork and they're on
a banana peal. So the problem is they sign Mercedes Lewis,
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they sign Roundell cop maybe Odell Beckham Junior on two
repair to acls. What's the result of all that? I mean,
are we gonna see more scenes like we just saw
at the WBC over at MetLife? I know, I know,
I know, in and out, in and out, there's a
lot of them. There's a lot of things I'm dealing
with right now. Class case of emotions, bad idea. There's
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a lot of stuff happening right every Rogers thought in
my head and Edwin dz thought is in it. It's
like they're fighting inside my brain. It's just like hunted baster,
it's just in front of you. It's just it's like
my brain is fighting, like the court receps is taking
over from from the last of us, Like can I
can I stop them from fighting? I I I really
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it is it is now, it went, it went? This
was you know what it is? No, you know what
it is? This is what this is. I feel like
Duke from Rocky for right when when they get they
get in the ring, right one of my favorite lines,
and all of a sudden, Drago just starts pummeling Apollo
and he knocks him out and you know, winds up
killing him. Sorry, what does Duke turn? What does Duke turn?
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And say? This was supposed to be an exhibition, an exhibition?
Tonight show was supposed to be an exhibition. It was
Aaron Rodgers to the Jets and he wants to be
there and we're celebrating. This was supposed to be an exhibition,
and now we have Edwin Diaz was probably out for
five years, probably may not play until Aaron Rodgers retired.
So I have that this is this is what has
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turned into. It was supposed to be an exhibition. A
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hopefully that will be fine. He's probably calling Zeke Elliott. Well,
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just no, we're just gonna call the padres. Hey, you
got some overpriced guys. You want to move because we
look now against you or Burger hurt people, hurt people
and hurd Yeah, it wasn't personal until you said, oh
it was a thisman like injury, which come on, man,
what what do you? Richlone? Okay, have you ever seen
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the thismand injury? I don't know if you've ever seen it,
I don't know. I mean it was wild how many
times Diaz his leg turned around. I didn't realize. I
mean maybe it's extra joint flexibility. I don't know. It's
just I mean, speak of hurting people. I mean we
should say happy birthday to the iron cheek who turns
eighty one today. Oh yeah, I mean that's good. I
mean he was. He was even salty wishing wishing himself
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happy birthday today. So we're just trying to bring positivity
and because your celebration of Rogers here really just got
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Ordenburger in tonight hanging out. It was an Aaron Rodgers
celebration and now it's Edwin daz Hey. But we'll get
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So we'll get back into the Edwin daz I mean
only happens to the Mets. But another big story today
in the NFL outside of Aaron Rodgers, a move that
was anticipated for a long time but is still difficult
to because of what he meant to the team. The
Cowboys release Ezekiel Elliott. They're gonna save some money. Now
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he's got to go restart his career somewhere else. I
don't know, guys. I mean, Zeke was a guy who
was great until he got paid and then he stopped
being great. And it's now he's just the latest of
one of those running backs in the NFL who Yeah,
I'm really hot and heavy and I'm great, but I
really want to get paid. He was all about the money,
and he prepped for twenty nineteen like he was going
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to have a big year, and that's when he held out.
He stilled a great year in twenty nineteen. But suddenly
there the money kicks in, and then you get a
guy who was just a guy the last couple of years.
The correlation is staggering, isn't it? Like it really is
the line of demarcation between productive years and really injury
riddled years and unproductive years. But I will say this,
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it may not because of lack of effort. It may
not because of a change of heart in terms of
how badly he wanted it. He could have just been
simple bad luck. And the reality is the older you
get at that position in the NFL, the less lucky
you become. We're starting to see it for the first
time with Derek Henry last season. It was it felt
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like a long time coming for Tennessee to have some
issues with Derrick Henry, given how much work he gets.
It's coming for everyone in that league. It just happened
to bite Zeke Elliott in concert with getting the big payday.
Let me wonder aloud. You know, even though he was
down to three point eight yards per carry, still scored
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twelve touchdowns. Fourth season with a double digit touchdown total.
Is his acumen as a blocker and short yardage guys
still make him a valuable commodity? Like he's not the guy? Right?
I mean, we watched Tony Pollard and the explosiveness, but
does he still have value elsewhere even if he can't
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break forty yard runs? The problem is, and Mike, I
know you'll agree with this, there's nothing wrong with Tony
Pollard down near the goal line. There's just not. The
problem is you have, you know, an owner and potentially
a coaching staff that was convinced that they needed to
keep Zeke happy because of the amount of money that
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he was being paid and maybe the influence of his
agent or the influence of Zeke Elliott himself. So I
think those touches down near the goal line were a
little bit manufactured. Wow, Ego touches, Look at you, rich,
Ego touches. It's a little bit like this, right. You know,
it's a group project, but there is that guy who
does just sign his name. And so when you give
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a two hundred thirty pound running back the football down
near the goal one and say, all right, get us
a half a yard, okay, Zeke, get us two yards.
He's signing his name on the project. The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Carman Rich Ornberg ran with us tonight
coming up next. Not a lot could bump Aaron Rodgers
from the top story, but something already has. That's next, Timmy,
(33:01):
I'll dump it.
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Sports Radio. Six words six words uttered earlier today, Forever
change the National Football League. I want to be a jet. Words.
You've never been uttered death ever in the history of
the NFL. I want to be a jet. You go
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into the darkness, You go into the chaos and try to,
you know, d displace yourself from all the noise, the
surroundings and everything, and your beacon of light becomes the
New York Bleeping Jets. This is really the multiverse come
to life for all of us. And clearly you have
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screamed yourself horse in the process. We bring in our
third member of our crew tonight, because well he's someone's
got to talk some sensity as well, and god knows,
I've been trying for a decade. Rich Hard Burger, our
teammate here at Fox Sports Radio here in mornings seven
sixty down in Satin Diego weekends here Fox Sports Radio
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kind enough to join in the party in the festivities
here on a Wednesday night. I Ritchie, Hey, what's going on? Yeah,
I cannot believe what we're hearing out of the voice
box of one Aaron Rodgers that he wants to join
the likes of a Vinny test of Verdi. He wants
to be renowned like a Chad Pennington. He wants to
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join y a tittle and retire a New York Jet
one day in the Hall of Fame. Aaron Rodgers, I mean,
unless something goes seriously, seriously sideways, is going to be
a New York Jet. I'm pretty shocked. I mean, I
really honestly didn't know if we'd see this day, if
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we'd see this thing come to fruition. Frankly more so
for the Jets, because it wasn't but like two weeks
ago that they were promising Derek Carr a bust in Canton. Uh,
And now here we are today with this news. So
a little bit of an about face in their off season,
but the transition may work out for them. Greatest days
in Jets history, super Bowl three. But today, that's a
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great day. Day, not a great day. You've got that, Paul,
and you've done nothing else. No, no, no, five decades,
Joe name it. We have to have a benchmark for
those five decades of ineptitude. And that's it. Nameth walking
off the feel with his finger raised up and today
and Aaron Rodgers on the Pat McAfee show. That is it.
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That is the That is the Jets franchise summed up
in one sentence. That's that's there. By the way, I
do need to do this because we gotta make sure
he was a giant at the end. Why a title?
Yeah he never he never became a Jet Rich Richards
just taking shots right now because this is out tonight
twenty apparently I'm gonna hit you here, Okay, great, all right, Yeah,
I apologize. I honestly, I couldn't tell you which New
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York team he might have played for, the New York Titans,
for all we know. The point is, Aaron Rodgers joins
a cast of characters and most notably Joe Namath at
the quarterback position. Um but but none better really honestly
representing New York's calamitous unfortunate, uh recent history at quarterback.
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Then Mark Sanchez and that faithful date November twenty second,
twenty twelve. Oh do you want to hear it? I
was there about the last time they played on. I
wouldn't need here for it. I know that. I think
the years. Yeah, I think just one more time for
old time's sakes. Tom Moore than an indianapois, the offensive
poor never, you're gonna bust it. Play here and then
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Lens Changes gets hit. The ball is loose and it's alive.
I have never seen this before in my life. Watch this.
Vince Wilfork is gonna throw Brandon Moore back into He's
gonna fumble a football. This is what Reggie White used
to do to people, fork lift them and just lift
them off the ground. Mark Sanchez not expecting it, and
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it was the backside of Brandon Moore to knock the
ball out. I like the naive te of rich By saying, hey,
let's hear this one more time, like we're not gonna
hear it like fifty times, Like we don't hear it
fifty times every night on the show. Well, just one
more time to hear one more time. But the other
thing Rich hasn't heard it in a while, but it's
the one. So the idea we got several months of
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lead up, because at this point we still only have intentions.
I can intend to lose seventy five pounds, but if
my face keeps running into Big Max and large Fries,
I'm probably not going to achieve that. Likewise, we're still
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is where Aaron Rodgers now claims the New York Jets.
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Are you okay? Everybody? Just stop? This is gonna be fun.
You guys are gonna have your jollys tonight by saying, oh,
he's still at pack and tomorrow and the day after
that gave everybody left bridge over there in Green Bank.
I'm sorry, but this is happening. You cannot like it.
You can be upset that finally my team, I get
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a day in the sunshine. But this trade is happening.
You get Russell of this year. It's happening. I like
the trade. I gotta be honest, if they consummate this thing,
if all of a sudden we got Aaron Rodgers rocking
the uh the Nick Cage look from Conair walking into
training camps Cornell or wherever the Jets hold themselves up
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these days for their training camps. I like it, And
I also like what he's doing in the midst of
all this. I know this is going to sound rare
from somebody, but I completely an utter support what Aaron
Rodgers is doing. So it is so often that players
get steamrolled by ownership, that players get traded their family lives, uh,
(06:43):
their their financial lives, their security switches on a dime,
and there's nothing they can really do about it. Um.
But when you see a player exerting their leverage, I
feel like it's a win for the working man. Now.
I understand, we're talking about a millionaire and a lot
of people will say, well, he's a spoiled millionaire. A
lot of people consider him kind of douchey. But here's
my take on Aaron Rodgers. He is thumbing his nose
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at the man. He's saying, damn the man, We've done
it your way for a long time, and now I'm
gonna give a shopping list to the New York Jets
and I'm gonna see if they'll bend over backwards for me. Now,
he denied those claims, and maybe there's some truth to that.
Maybe he wasn't exactly forceful with a shopping list of
free agents, but maybe he had mentioned on the sly Hey,
you know, wouldn't hurt if you got my buddy Alan
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a little taste. How about how about reaching out to Cobb?
How about how about mister Lewis and maybe oh b J.
I mean we all saw him on Twitter with his
shirt off in Arizona. Maybe give those fellows a call too. So,
I don't know, I think this is kind of cool.
I think it's a power play from from from the
side of the fence that normally doesn't get to exert
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this level of leverage. He's a busy dude, man, quarterback,
Bears owner, Jets general manager. That's a lot of things
to go through. Man, that's really that that I mean,
you are trying to every day, Well what do I
do here? What do I do today? I own the Bears.
I gotta figure something else out. Well, now I gotta
get these guys in for the jets. I got to
And it's fine that he wants to do it. It's
fine because he's all we need and we're going to
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the super Bowl. That's all that. He's all we need.
He's he's the center of the donut. He's he's the
cream filling of the donut. He's the only thing we need.
We have everything else. Super Bowl, It's happening. You guys,
just get ready for it. I cannot wait to hear, Like,
what's next on the list? Like we did the ayahuasca
you know, we did the Darkness Retreat? I mean, what
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is next on the list of things that Aaron Rodgers
is going to experience? And and then you know, kind
of inconcurrent, like how is the New York media going
to handle this? Because Green Bay, I mean that's one thing.
The national media is another thing. But when you have
a feisty and furious local media in the biggest media
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market in this country, if Aaron Rodgers disappears and he says,
you know, I'm gonna do a seven day Lost at
Sea adventure. I'm gonna recenter my chee. I'm really really
interested what like Newsday does with that story. But it's
like anything, if you're playing well, they they'll shut the
hell up. Yeah right, I mean they may not like it.
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They may grouse somebody. You'll still have the the Yackers
on New York Radio getting after it and talking to
the guys from the Bronx and whatever. But in the end,
if you're winning, hey, you don't kill a good formula, Mike.
You could take out the winning They're not gonna win.
No, no no, no, I look, it was all theoretical here.
I'm trying to be nice, Joe. They's all theoretical. Be no, no, no,
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let's let's call it what it is. You want to
talk about. What what's gonna wind up happening? Maybe you
had four teams that you're battling just in the division,
let alone. The AFC is when everybody is going to
the press conference waiting for Aaron Rodgers, like two days
after the game, and it's like, where's Aaron. We're all ready,
We're all like bead like, oh no, no, he's not
talking to you. Guys today he's talking to Pat McAfee instead.
Oh is he? And then they sharpen their pens. Oh
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is he's gonna go talk to that guy and not
talk to us. Oh yeah, Aaron, I'll fix you. I
got something for you right here, man, I got something
for you. What was my number? Samini? But when I
stick by it, right Samini? Serbie. Those guys they can
get edit. They've got acid tongues, and they're write with
the poison pen when they need to. And then they're
brilliant and they've been doing this a long time. But
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if you're winning, they can only complain and bitch so much, right,
I mean, that's just the way this game works up
until the bye week. I mean the Jets, who were
one of those teams early in the season where you
really did say, hey, look out, Robert Sala. Year two,
things are starting to coalesce, Zach. I mean it's great, right, yeah? Yeah,
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high water rich yea wait wait do we have that,
Zach Wilson? Do we listen? Listen, listen. We don't need
to hear from Zach Wilson today, just so we do
not need to hear from it all today. We do
not it's gonna be when he out nays Aaron Rodgers
in the starter. No, no, okay, I just want him
to be out over his shoulder, just as I'm gonna
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give that guy hell. Let me let me. Yeah, I'm
gonna give Aaron Rodgers hell at practice. You see where
I threw that ball, Aaron you can Oh you could
do that? Oh that's pretty cool. No, I'll tell you
what my big my big concern is is, Okay, what's
my one fear with Aaron Rodgers coming to the Jets.
They're not They're gonna give up too much because we
already know the packers aren't getting multiple first round picks.
Whatever money they pay, I don't care the money. He's
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all they need. What's going to happen. The biggest thing
I'm afraid of is that as soon as he's a Jet,
he's gonna go through what Russell Wilson went through last year,
where suddenly all the stuff that happened behind closed doors
that might not put a good optic on Aaron Rodgers
is gonna come out because they no longer have to
protect him. All the drama that he's had for now
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the last fifteen years. You're gonna see stories. Oh did
you know this happened with Aaron rod He took everybody's
food off of their plate after a game when they
didn't play well. He said, nobody should be able to eat,
you know, certain things like that, because what do we
deal with with with Russell Wilson. Same thing last year,
all these stories about what went on behind closed doors
in Seattle because they didn't have to protect him anymore.
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And you know there's crazy stuff because it's Aaron Rodgers.
That's the one thing is that every few weeks are
we going to be playing football games? And then oh,
by the way, on Monday, here's another bombshell, a story
out of Green Bay that they have to refute. That's
my big fear that they're gonna have to fight that
battle too. Well. You know, Seth Wickersham is like he's
converging on the small sleepy town of green Bay, Wisconsin
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right now to absolutely I mean, he's going to be
in every nook and cranny of that city trying to
get to the source of the story because it was
it was Seth in the and the gang over there
at ESPN who broke the fractured relationship between Tom Brady
and Bill Belichick. And that was during the decade or
I should say two decade long regime there in New England.
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I'm really curious to your point, what gets uncovered now
now that now that everybody doesn't need to keep all
the dirt swept into the corners. Now everybody can be like,
all right, I guess we could let our hair down
a little bit. And whether it's short term, whether it's
a long term, you know, there's more to this story.
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It's just kind of a quiet little hamlet there in
the north of this great country. And they've really protected
him for a while because if they didn't, well, the
end result could have been something that would have kneecapped
the franchise for years to come. Well, if Aaron Rodgers
going to exit before his time is truly finished and
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retire Green Bay Packer and the short term, then maybe
everybody's gonna feel okay taking out the flamethrower. So that's
a great point, you, Mick. I mean, there's probably going
to be some shock and awe campaign Rich We're gonna
find out it wasn't even a darkness retreat. Well, you know,
that's always a possibility. He may force the Jets to
sign Miles Teller. I like the fact that you used
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Hamlet in that vein I go to, of course, to
my Shakespeare in roots and talking about guys of indecisiveness
and being kind of whiny and off to the side,
and that it really blaze here. And I don't it is.
It is a tangled web that is probably going to
become a much cleaner I I don't know, man, this
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is the way I look at it. I look at
it this way. I know there's a lot of Aaron
Rodgers slander, and I know that is the path most taken,
But in this one occasion, I can really, truly, and
I mean this from every inch of my soul, support
what he's doing. Because if I had that kind of
leverage to exert, or anybody for that absolutely, I mean
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I'm sent I would one thousand percent be exerting that lever.
You went a thousand percent, I just went to one hundred.
I'll take it to a million, pal done, how about
two million percent? How about five million percent? Let's go,
let's go to twenty million? Just out of control? Oh please, Jason,
press your voice. Let's go. Jet's winning one super Bowl?
Why not too? Super Bowl? Why not five? Why not
the next five Super Bowls? Yeah? Yeah yeah. Be sure
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to catch live editions of The Jason Smith Show with
Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven pm Pacific
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The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harman. Rich Ornberger in
with us tonight as we celebrate Aaron Rodgers Christmas, the
day Aaron Rodgers intends to play with the Jets. He
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intends to play with the Jets. Hey, I'll take I'll
take the news as it comes, all right, I'll take
the news as it comes. Now. I think I can
understand Riches wanting to make fun of the Jets earlier.
I mean, I'm gonna say something rich and if it's
too personal, let me know. Because you know, as Harmon
say too personal, I know you are probably very upset
and you are feel a little bit bitter that you
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were not on the list of players Aaron Rodgers wanted
the Jets to sign. And I'm sure that's where a
lot of what the what the last few minutes came from.
It was a pretty long list. There were guys on
that list. There were guys you played with. In fact,
I think half of them were guys on the line
with you. But I'm sorry that he didn't. He didn't
ask for you. I think that's what it is. Well,
I you know it, fine, you got it. You vouted me,
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and this is a personal vendetta. Now I'm gonna spike
the next batch of iowaska te. I know. Here's the
here's the reality. I don't have a dog in this fight.
I promise you. I haven't been kind of innoculated the
way that that that maybe Harmon has been over the
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years to the intense amount of Jets talk that you
expose him to, almost like open radiation on a night
in Incredible Hulk over here, Gamma raised baby, let's go.
It's just penetrating every cell in his body on an
on a nightly basis. You know I I I actually
think the Jets they have a decent young core. I
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think Joe Douglas has done a nice job building them up.
I think Robert sala is probably the steady, mature, responsible, savvy,
defensive minded coach that a team needs. If you're gonna
bring in a wily veteran quarterback like Aaron Rodgers who's
gonna have a lot of sway with that offense now,
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so it's a little bit of hey, listen, I'm gonna
give that man what he wants and I'm gonna stay
out of the way. I'm gonna worry about my side
of the fence. I'm gonna let Aaron handle the offense,
and I think that could be a working relationship. The
problem is they don't have him yet, so there is
a little bit of this feeling of like, until it's done.
How it's like it's like the Jason movies. Until we
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know he's like dead and not still slowly walking in
the background carrying a machette, the credits don't roll, and
then even then a hand will pop out through the
grass and you know there's gonna be a sequel, or
a third or a fourth, a trilogy. I don't know
what is beyond a trilogy, but you get my point.
We don't know if this is actually gonna get done
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until it gets done. Listen, that's a minor detail. It's
an absolute minor detail. He's not a jet yet. It's
going to happen, and when it gets pass through, they
just call a movie a series, so it will be
the Aaron Rodgers. It'll be a series of Super Bowl victories, Harmon.
I think maybe one time will even beat the Bears.
Will be justin fields. You guys will make it there
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and we will beat you at some point and he
will still be the Bears owner. I will stand there,
you know what, getting that trophy from Dan Patrick and
Terry Bradshaw and say I still own you, I still
own you. What's gonna happen. That's fine. Once he actually
gets it done and he's out of the division, I
get to pop that bottle of champagne victory for me. Now,
I need you to pause, because what I'm about to
tell you after I do a little business here might
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bring you down. This coming from Jeff Passon. Edwin Diaz
has been helped off the field, putting no weight on
his right leg. Play down during the celebration, plays he
closed out the old chair down the tunnel. He did
raise his arm to acknowledge the crowd, went down during
the celebration, grabbing his right knee. Had a good run.
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Oh boy. This is why I love the World Baseball Classic.
This is why I love the WBC. That's why I
love it. I'm not gonna sleep tonight. Now now I'm
not gonna sleep. I went for it. No, no, I
gotta focus on Aaron Rod from the Lows. That's it, you, Rob.
This is what it's like, Rich, Yeah, this is what
it's like. It's good. It's the good, the bad, the ugly.
With this guy during a celebration, he's all dancing around.
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He's fired up. They win, he's fired up, he's celebrating,
and down he goes. Oh no, that's a final. What's
the name of the trumpeter that was just blaring that,
Tommy Jimmy Trump? Does he know taps? Yeah? Because unfortunately
it's um, it's over before it started in New York, Jason,
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I don't know if you heard the part he's not
putting any weight on his right leg. No, No, they
carry they I watched them carry him off the field.
I watched take him off on a wheelchair. I watched
him wave to the crowd. And then I want to
go drink more. Ayahuascati, because I want this to be
just a vision and something that didn't happen. I really okay,
but you have to listen really closely. It's broke. It's broke.
(20:14):
Stop stop stop stop. That's not that's I mean, that's
like we're just kind of taking Passon's words and and
and taking all the other accounts here, and we're just
kind of parsing it down to um, well, something everybody
can understand. I had no idea that. And when Diaz
had the Bakersfield accent, incredible, absolutely incredible. I mean, I mean,
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this is this is how it goes for the Mets.
It's like, it's like, Okay, Jason, here's what's gonna happen. Now.
You can't have nice things for both of your teams.
So you're gonna get Aaron Rodgers today. Well, I'm gonna
get him. No, you're gonna get him saying he wants
to come. Okay, that's great. I'll take that for today. Okay,
but I gotta take something else from you. What what
do you mean? What do you mean I gotta take
something else? What do you gotta take? I gotta take
Edwin Diaz? What do you mean I gotta take? It's
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the deal with the Devil Man. Have you not watched
all these movies that's going down to the crossroads? Believe
great work. You're gonna get in front of massive crowds.
What's gonna what's gonna happen. Well, you're gonna become the
latest of the twenty seven club. It's oh, it's not
just a trade for a third round pick, it's also
for Edwin Diaz's knee. The Great, the Great Creator needs
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to be appeased. This is I mean, this is man.
They're just having their way with you. It's an intense
knife for Jason. I feel really, actually bad about this
as a Mets Jets fan. This is this is the
life you've chosen. Though you were aware of this as
a youngster, were you not? But I was? I? No, no,
I was too young to be asked to make such
a big choice. Come on, man, I can't make no, no, no,
(21:49):
I can't do that. You asked me as a young
man of six years old. Hey, you like baseball? Yeah?
You like football? Yeah? What teams do you want to pick?
I don't know. The Mets and the Jets are really colorful.
The other teams wear dark uniforms. I kind of like
watching the Colors on TV. Okay, there's your choice. You
don't know what you just did? Oh what did I
just do? Now? I've had a lifetime of this, right,
I could have picked the Yankees and the Giants. And
(22:11):
I think about this all the time, and I would say, boy,
I would have had like a bunch of World Series
and the Respect and the Giants. I would have had
Super Bowls. We'd beat Brady twice. It would have been
so great. No, no, no, I picked the Mets and
the Jets, And this is what I you'd be here
and telling everybody that you ignore the regular season on
Eli Manning because of those Super Bowl wins, as opposed
(22:31):
to what you normally say about Eli. Mike. So, how
does this work? Do you get your money back on
the Mets tickets for the World Series after this? You know,
unfortunately you've made that bet. It's a final. But here's
the thing. This guy likes to spend money. He'll go
find another would be closer somewhere, and it won't be
a trumpet this time. Belly Wagner, you want to come back.
(22:53):
Cohen spends money on players like he's ordering Domino's pizza.
I agree with that. I do think that they though
the purse strings will be wise. The guy down in
San Diego. Yeah, but he's as good point as good point.
You're not even done yet. You still got another half
of a billion dollars. Oh man, that's Soto deal. It
(23:14):
is just I mean, was that Cidler guy rich to chill? Okay?
I mean yeah, right, that's it. That's what you're hearing
from other teams around MLB. They're like, Hey, you know,
if if it weren't for Cohen and Sidler, we'd all
look like just kind of greedy bastards. But now because
they're spending at this rate, well, actually that is a
silver lining right there. Though. For Jason, he's got an
(23:36):
owner who appears to be committed to spending massive amounts
of money to ply the fan base with the superstars
that now they just have to go and do something
with the team, Okay, So to feel good about it,
I would say, yes, we're gonna go spend that money
and go get a closer. Secondly, though, it's like he's
the best closer in the game. We just gave him
(23:58):
twenty million dollars, we am one hundred million dollar contract,
and he's one of those rare guys that can handle
New York. He can handle the pressure. He can handle
the pressure of closing. When he had a really bad
year two years ago, Hey that was you know, I'm fine,
I'm fine, I'm fine, and it was Oh man, dude,
this guy's really got to get it. This trade we
made is awful and oh deah. But now Diz turns
(24:18):
out to be great and he can handle New York
and it's we're all going forward. He was great. We
can't even make it to the regular season without this.
Usually in June is when things start happening for the Mets,
but no, no, no, we're ramping it up now because
of the WBC. And here it is in March, and
here's here's a big injury. Now, yes it's a flukey injury.
But I always this is why I can't stand the WB.
But we had it the other day with Freddie Freeman, right,
(24:40):
the same kind of concern here in Dodgerville. No, nothing
to see there, Mike. In the end, there was nothing
in the moment there. There was a lot of consternation
and and sweating because of the number of guys that
had already left the squad this offseason and questions throughout
the lineup. And you get a bit of a hand
(25:00):
and alright, is gonna keep barking this one? Uh well,
we haven't got an official word, but that didn't look good,
did not look good, especially the way the players were reacting.
You know, it reminded you a little bit of of
the thiseman injury you had. I one of the wait wait, wait,
(25:21):
wait a minute, that yeah, one of the rich Wait
a minute, that didn't happen, Okay yet one of yeah,
one of the infielders turning around and waving to the
trainers like like he he like he was cut down
all the way to the bone. Maybe maybe both, maybe honestly,
who knows. Here's here's the here, Okay. The problem is
(25:43):
the silver lining is, yeah, you have an owner who
likes to spend for the Mets, but you have an
owner now in Aaron Rodgers, because he's calling all the
shots in New York, who wants to spend all the
money on these free agents who um are got one
foot on you know, their retirement paperwork and they're on
a banana peal. So the problem is they sign Mercedes Lewis,
(26:04):
they sign Roundell cop maybe Odell Beckham Junior on two
repair to acls. What's the result of all that? I mean,
are we gonna see more scenes like we just saw
at the WBC over at MetLife? I know, I know,
I know, in and out, in and out, there's a
lot of them. There's a lot of things I'm dealing
with right now. Class case of emotions, bad idea. There's
(26:29):
a lot of stuff happening right every Rogers thought in
my head and Edwin dz thought is in it. It's
like they're fighting inside my brain. It's just like hunted baster,
it's just in front of you. It's just it's like
my brain is fighting, like the court receps is taking
over from from the last of us, Like can I
can I stop them from fighting? I I I really
(26:50):
it is it is now, it went, it went? This
was you know what it is? No, you know what
it is? This is what this is. I feel like
Duke from Rocky for right when when they get they
get in the ring, right one of my favorite lines,
and all of a sudden, Drago just starts pummeling Apollo
and he knocks him out and you know, winds up
killing him. Sorry, what does Duke turn? What does Duke turn?
(27:11):
And say? This was supposed to be an exhibition, an exhibition?
Tonight show was supposed to be an exhibition. It was
Aaron Rodgers to the Jets and he wants to be
there and we're celebrating. This was supposed to be an exhibition,
and now we have Edwin Diaz was probably out for
five years, probably may not play until Aaron Rodgers retired.
So I have that this is this is what has
(27:31):
turned into. It was supposed to be an exhibition. A
deep breath, an exhibition breath. It's all Timmy L. Trumpet's fault.
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(27:53):
go find some help economically and use some of those
pennies to push down into the pockets of the met
maybe buying another couple of hats so they could go
get another closer. See, I'm a problem solver. All right,
all right, all right, that's fine. I'm sure, I'm sure
Steve Cohen's on the phone right now, and I'm sure
hopefully that will be fine. He's probably calling Zeke Elliott. Well,
(28:13):
just no, we're just gonna call the padres. Hey, you
got some overpriced guys. You want to move because we
look now against you or Burger hurt people, hurt people
and hurd Yeah, it wasn't personal until you said, oh
it was a thisman like injury, which come on, man,
what what do you? Richlone? Okay, have you ever seen
(28:34):
the thismand injury? I don't know if you've ever seen it,
I don't know. I mean it was wild how many
times Diaz his leg turned around. I didn't realize. I
mean maybe it's extra joint flexibility. I don't know. It's
just I mean, speak of hurting people. I mean we
should say happy birthday to the iron cheek who turns
eighty one today. Oh yeah, I mean that's good. I
mean he was. He was even salty wishing wishing himself
(28:56):
happy birthday today. So we're just trying to bring positivity
and because your celebration of Rogers here really just got
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(29:18):
Ordenburger in tonight hanging out. It was an Aaron Rodgers
celebration and now it's Edwin daz Hey. But we'll get
to that coming up in a couple of minutes. Somebody
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So we'll get back into the Edwin daz I mean
only happens to the Mets. But another big story today
in the NFL outside of Aaron Rodgers, a move that
was anticipated for a long time but is still difficult
to because of what he meant to the team. The
Cowboys release Ezekiel Elliott. They're gonna save some money. Now
(30:07):
he's got to go restart his career somewhere else. I
don't know, guys. I mean, Zeke was a guy who
was great until he got paid and then he stopped
being great. And it's now he's just the latest of
one of those running backs in the NFL who Yeah,
I'm really hot and heavy and I'm great, but I
really want to get paid. He was all about the money,
and he prepped for twenty nineteen like he was going
(30:27):
to have a big year, and that's when he held out.
He stilled a great year in twenty nineteen. But suddenly
there the money kicks in, and then you get a
guy who was just a guy the last couple of years.
The correlation is staggering, isn't it? Like it really is
the line of demarcation between productive years and really injury
riddled years and unproductive years. But I will say this,
(30:51):
it may not because of lack of effort. It may
not because of a change of heart in terms of
how badly he wanted it. He could have just been
simple bad luck. And the reality is the older you
get at that position in the NFL, the less lucky
you become. We're starting to see it for the first
time with Derek Henry last season. It was it felt
(31:12):
like a long time coming for Tennessee to have some
issues with Derrick Henry, given how much work he gets.
It's coming for everyone in that league. It just happened
to bite Zeke Elliott in concert with getting the big payday.
Let me wonder aloud. You know, even though he was
down to three point eight yards per carry, still scored
(31:33):
twelve touchdowns. Fourth season with a double digit touchdown total.
Is his acumen as a blocker and short yardage guys
still make him a valuable commodity? Like he's not the guy? Right?
I mean, we watched Tony Pollard and the explosiveness, but
does he still have value elsewhere even if he can't
(31:55):
break forty yard runs? The problem is, and Mike, I
know you'll agree with this, there's nothing wrong with Tony
Pollard down near the goal line. There's just not. The
problem is you have, you know, an owner and potentially
a coaching staff that was convinced that they needed to
keep Zeke happy because of the amount of money that
(32:15):
he was being paid and maybe the influence of his
agent or the influence of Zeke Elliott himself. So I
think those touches down near the goal line were a
little bit manufactured. Wow, Ego touches, Look at you, rich,
Ego touches. It's a little bit like this, right. You know,
it's a group project, but there is that guy who
does just sign his name. And so when you give
(32:38):
a two hundred thirty pound running back the football down
near the goal one and say, all right, get us
a half a yard, okay, Zeke, get us two yards.
He's signing his name on the project. The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Carman Rich Ornberg ran with us tonight
coming up next. Not a lot could bump Aaron Rodgers
from the top story, but something already has. That's next, Timmy,
(33:01):
I'll dump it.
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