March 29, 2023 • 36 mins
Mike Harmon and Rich Ohrnberger filling in for Jason Smith get you all caught up on the NFL owners meeting from Arizona, WWE Superstar Angelo Dawkins of Street Profits stops by to promote the upcoming match at WrestleMania 39, and all the latest on the Lamar Jackson free agency situation!
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Gotta pay those bills. So hopefully you're okay over there, buddy,
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you're feeling all right, Yeah, I'll be okay, just finishing
up a bowl of ramen. Oh boy, delicious, too soon, bro,
too soon. I dig me some noodles in the late
hours in the right Yeah, I like to carbo load
for the last hour always. I kind of dig that
about you, There's no question about it. Yeah, Ad Warren
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Burgers where you find him on Twitter seven sixty down
in San Diego. Of course here Fox Sports Weekend, yelling
at Steve Hartman and whatever we can get him in
as part of our group here we look to doctor
Rich for all of the student analysis and observations that
he brings. Thank he also owns a flamethrower, so we
got to be careful. Yeah, well, or you gotta be
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carefree when it comes to flamethrowing. I ask no question
about it. So the way I like to finish off
my meat is with a ten foot flame shot right
into a habachi grill. That's how I like to do it.
And I I mean at something speechless, trying to come
up with the proper way to phrase it. But at
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some point I need to bring this to the Los
Angeles studios. Need to I need to bring this into
the parking structure. We need to find a space on
the patio. We need to do this somewhere so you
guys can understand the sheer power that I'm dealing with.
I'm sitting there trying to figure out from a legal
uh an hr perspective how this works in your favor. Oh,
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it'll be fine. I'm you know what I mean. You
know what, it's always ask for forgiveness instead of permission
kind of thing. That That is how I've lived my
entire life. It's really worked to this point. I'm not
saying things won't change, but to this point it's gone successful. No,
it'll dip on a dime for you. It's RUSSELLMANI a
week we talked to Angelo Dawkins Street Profits uh part
(02:55):
of a four fatal four way match going on as
part of russell Mania Weekend eight pm Eastern Peacock both
Saturday and Sunday. The podcast will be up in an
hour's time. You can get that audio and listen to energy.
If that doesn't get your hype to go, run through
a wall, really nothing nothing else can in this universe.
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So we're fired up to be here with you. It's
so much to take away from the owners meetings. The
one liner that we come back to with Rich is players.
Some players will be able to wear the numbers zero.
That's the big win out of the day. And then
you start piecing it down from there of what got tabled,
what got kicked to the curb all together, and where
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we push things going forward. So number range extended for
punters and kickers. Yea, the reset play clock to forty
after a replay reversal, Well, that that seems like it
should have been obvious that that should have taken eight
seconds for them. It's like Peyton Manning Hall of Fame.
You in or out? Yeah, all right, move on. Should
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the play clock reset if the call is overturned? Well, yeah,
of course it should. Um tripping fifteen yard penalty, redefining
launching as requiring one foot. Looking at that a little
bit more, yeah, well, you know you're trying to do
this thing's uh the punt touchbacks to the twenty five
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yard line that failed, and some of the others the
fourth and twenty. Let's push that off to another time.
But where everything got thrown up in the air riches
where when it comes down to Thursday night football in
this convention that we've seen at these last few years
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of growing entity, the excitement amazon coming in and paying
one hundred billion dollars. I'm just getting at but it
ain't it ain't far off from one hundred billion dollars
to come into to play this game. And what you
saw where a lot of games where al Michaels couldn't
sell it no matter how hard he tried. After a while,
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I don't think he tried. Well. There came a point
and in the off season as well, where al Michaels
had given up on trying to polish the proverbial turd
and said, hey, look, you know, on a weekly basis,
now we're handing you a pretty bad product here, and
thank you for joining us, and we're going to get
through this together. I mean, was basically the vibe. And
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then you had Kirk herb Street, who was just so
excited to be in the car and finally sitting in
the front street with Uncle Al in the front seat.
He would he was just like this cheerful energy trying
to you know, teach how you know, the the nuances
that he's bringing to him from his years and years
and years on the call at the college football level,
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and Al just shut down the happiness train at every turn.
He would just be like, yeah, well, the game still sucks, right, Yeah,
I mean it really was. It was that kind of
dynamic in the booth. Which did it always lead to
an uncomfortable broadcast? No, In fact, a lot of times,
in my opinion, it led to kind of a funny broadcast.
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Well you're waiting to see what's going to happen next, ye,
Like they're gonna talk away the next three and hour.
What is Al gonna say next? And U and I
think you remained professional. But look the NFL, if they're
good at anything, And we talked about this a little
bit earlier in the show, Mikey, is the fact that
they will change something when it isn't working, and so
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by adding more Thursday night games, I think it's a
make good for Amazon to a greater or lesser extent.
And also it's to prove that maybe with more volume
they're going to have a more satisfactory product because there's
going to be more opportunity opportunities for a satisfactory product.
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We'll see if their call is right. One thing I
do know is that there are more and more players
speaking out about this as the hours tick. Bob, that
this is absurd, that this is a league that's concerned
with players safety, and you are again proving that you're
anything other than concerned about players safe well, and that's it, right,
trying to go through the process to where while you're
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not going into the flex concept as we've traditionally considered it,
the idea that a team could play two and in
some cases three Thursday night games has a lot of
folks raising their hand, led by Patrick mahomes by defending
Super Bowl champions looking over there, going hey, what are
we doing over here? Right? Because they would be targeted.
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Right if you're trying to do them make good and
trying to make Amazon feel all warm and fuzzy, what
are you doing? You're getting Patrick Mahomes into every window
you can. That me and Jason it means I'll get
to watch him die a little bit multiple Thursday nights.
If and when Aaron Rodgers becomes a jet year that
Smith still not a jet, still a packer. But the
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idea of being that with this lexibility, that you may
have a circumstance, and they carved it out very specifically
Thursday Thursday game right Thanksgiving and maybe you're already scheduled.
He here's the way it works out. You play that
next Thursday, that's only gonna counts one game, so you're
still eligible for the bonus. Yeah right, you're shooting one
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and the bonus. In this case, you could have two
Thursday games. Because you're so great and we love you
so much. Guess what you're playing relevant football in December
you get a third opportunity on Thursday night football. And
I got to imagine in locker rooms that it's already
the source of consternation to a high level. Now, the
CBA is what it is, and we've talked about it,
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and I've eviscerated the concept, particularly from the Demorris Smith
and leadership side. The player side. It's always going to
be a mess trying to disseminate that information properly to
that many players. Yeah right, because even if you're in
the same room together, how many And it's not casting
aspersion on players the old football players are dumb mentality,
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but the idea of how many of them really want
to sit there and go through everything from the CBA
because each team rep is going to come back and
they don't necessarily have the bullet points for everybody. They
have the ones they think and the ones that reach
them that they think their teammates are gonna need so
it becomes a very watered down game of telephone. Yeah.
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By time it's all said and done, it's like, hey,
you gotta vote for this. Why, Well, you also got
to remember it's a really young coalition of players in
the NFL. Like part of the reason why that NFL
Players Association gets railroaded by its ownership group is because
young players oftentimes aren't well versed in the happenings of
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their union because they're too worried and I'm talking about
the majority of these players. They're too worried about just
making rosters no right, just sticking around. Yeah, the average
NFL career is less than three years, so the turnover
is vast on these rosters. So maybe have ten or
twelve guys, maybe if you're lucky, fifteen twenty who are
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sticking around on your roster for multiple years because they're
impact players and they're staying healthy, and maybe that stretches
a decade again if you're lucky, and then the rest
of the roster turns over. So what happens is you
get a lot of guys who are ignorant to how
the union works. They're barely keeping their head above water
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in terms of their playbook and their ability to stay
on the field. And as a result, you have these
votes that go through on bad deals for the player,
and it's a bad deal after bad deal. Now, don't
get me wrong. The players are benefiting from all the
money that the league is making because of profit sharing
with the network agreements and these streaming rights agreements. That's
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all great, and that continues to increase the salary cap.
And so that's a bigger bite of the apple for
the players. And on this last CBA agreement, they were
given a minimum salary incentive. Here where come? You know,
whatever X year in this new ten year CBA that
the players just signed away on minimum salary in the
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NFL is going to be one hundred or excuse me,
it's going to be a million dollars. And so for
those bottom ranking members of rosters across the NFL, this
was a brilliant tact that the owners used to get
them to sign the dotted line because you don't have
to worry about the players getting involved with decision making
on scheduling because they signed away that right. The owners
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get to make those decisions. The players have no say
in it. So nobody consulted any of the players about
Thursday night football games when they said, hey, they're going
to be select teams that are going to play to
Thursday night games because they didn't have to, and so
why would they no? And and that's the thing, right
is that you are, you are considered and working towards
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that three year career and seeing how much you can
squeeze beyond that and trying to make above minimum, trying
to make sure you have your space. So that's when
we get into all the talks about long term and
you and I were talking about it earlier in the show.
When it comes to benefits and all of those things,
why those lag because you're worried about the immediacy. What's
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happening to me twenty years from now? That's what most
people do, all right. It's like, all right, yeah, I
got a little bit put away from retirement, but I'm
living now. I gotta pay my bills now, I'll get
that at when I get to that same thing here
when you talk about some of these considerations, and we
see it all the time. Now it's Thursday night football.
How many days of the week will football occupy before
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it's done. Week eighteen is going to rear its ugly
head at some point, you know that for sure. So
all of that keeps creeping back in to the mix
as we roll through. Be sure to catch live editions
of The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at
ten pm Eastern, seven pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio
and the iHeart Radio app. Welcome back in Fox Morch Radio.
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Jason spitzche with me, Mike Carmen, rich Hornberger in for
Jason here tonight. He sounds sexy, Rich or me or both.
Thank you. That's it. We're entering that tag team battle
each other. What do they call it, the Fatal Foursome,
four ways fired up. I'm just so giddy the closer
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we get. Got a big NXT event. We talked about
that with Angelo Dawkins. The h that's the training grounds,
building your characters, whatever, you know. We got a guy
out of Northwestern that's part of that program. Rich okay,
all right, he played football wildcat. Yeah, they call him
Tank is his character. I like that name. I could
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support a tank. It seems like a guy you get behind.
So if we get the merch train going, I fully
anticipate you rocking the tank Ledger. Yeah, you bring a
tank shirt. I'm wearing it. Yeah, we'll make sure that
that happens along the way. But exciting times Final four.
We'll get into that in earnest later on in the week.
But we're talking about the owners meeting, all the commentary
and over the last two days everybody stepped to microphones,
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and let's face it, there's not a lot of trust
from you and me. You having been in the league
and knowing how these things work and knowing how the
proverbial sausage has made me from observing the sausage being
served to so many people for though these many years.
You know, Harbaugh talking about yeah we want Lamar's gonna
be here, like you know the old you're not lying
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if you believe it's true. The George Costanzas m oh, yeah,
So that's the kind of thing where you talk yourself
into a space. So Matt la floor today, he went, well,
he went into it. Yeah, listen, I'm gonna throw it
out there right away. First of all, I've got nothing
but love and appreciation for what Aaron has done for
so many in our organization. Obviously have experienced a lot
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of great eight times together, and we've won a lot
of football games together. Ultimately didn't bring all of the
Super Bowl, which will always be disappointing. And then they
finishes the eulogy. You feel like Will Ferrell's gonna show up,
Sacon all right, clause, my boy, he looks glorious. Um.
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But yeah, so he goes into that. I'm not gonna
get into any of that stuff. I know it's disappointing
for you guys, but it is what it is. When
he was asked another question about Rogers the same time,
we're excited about Jordan and how he's been able to
progress as a quarterback, how he's matured as a man. Yeah, yeah,
I like that, matured as a man. And he also
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talked about tamping down and tamping down expectation for Jordan
Love because it comes out of thirty years of the
Brett Farve, Aaron Rodgers train with some other guys mixed
in for a couple of games to make you realize
how good you have it and how good it's been
for you there in the NFC North. But I go
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back to something we talked about a little bit earlier. Riches.
They got the best of both worlds, I guess because
Rogers played some pretty good football at times. Was it
a clean season, No, not even close to the MVP
seasons that preceded it. But for those that just say
he's categorically done, I think it's more about Aaron Rodgers,
the guy you don't like, than the player. Considering the
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level of quarterback play across the NFL, are you kidding me?
Even at his worst? What are you ranking him tenth
in the league right now? But for Jordan's Love, while
Aaron Rodgers was doing his ayahuasca trail, hanging out with
Miles Teller and all that stuff, Jordan Love got a
lot of reps with the ones. He got a lot
of one on one time with Matt Lafleur, which evidently
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Aaron Rodgers when he had it, he didn't come for
the free cookies and biscuits with the boss. Listen, Aaron Rodgers,
as difficult as he was, especially over the last half
decade in Green Bay, you said it right, Mikey. I
mean he handed you top ten performances from his position
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every single year without fail. I mean, like, can you
name ten quarterbacks last season that you'd want ahead of Rogers?
I would I would struggle personally to do that. So well, Yeah,
I understand there's a lot of frustration from the side
of Matt Lafloor and Brian guten Koons for having to
deal with a lot of the off the field stuff,
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and I'm sure there's way more than we'll ever realize
there was going on behind the scenes. I think I
think they played this one right. I think that you
got to ride this train all the way to its station.
You gotta let him make the decision. I do think
that they they did sound very weak with any of
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their public statements that they made up up to this point.
It was very bizarre, like when people ask them questions.
Instead of just like leaving all the pressure onto Aaron
and just saying like, hey, you know, this is Aaron's world,
we're living in it. We're pleased to support him and
whatever he wants to do next, they were kind of like,
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we are really getting frustrated with Aaron, but if he
wants to play for another year, we'll be okay with
that too. Like it just it was just so lame.
I'm so glad that now it's all in the open.
The Jets want him, he wants the Jets, the Green
Bay Packers and the Jets are trying to work it out.
Still he's still a packer, which is bizarre because this
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feels like it's it was supposed to be done two
weeks ago and it's still sort of hanging in the
ether here. But it will be done Zoon. And at
the end of the day, I think the Green Bay
Packers played it about as good as they could because
how do you move on from Aaron Rodgers unless he's
the one making decision, and essentially he was the one
making the decision to move on well, and that goes
back to what Goodakoos was saying yesterday, right, it's the
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we were trying to reach out. We couldn't get a
hold of them, right right new phone who did kind
of thing or just deciding all right, we'll let you
squirm a bunch before we go public with whatever we're
gonna do on McAfee or wherever else when we emerged
from the darkness, because I never got to ask you
the question when Rogers said he was quote ninety percent
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retired before his retreat and coming out hearing that he
was being shopped or that the people in the building
were We're telling a different tale than they were publicly,
What did you make of the ninety percent retired? And
this is becomes a slam that sucker down Dusty Rhodes
revenge tour. Yeah, I just sort of I sort of
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felt like, look, there is a little bit of sadism
to Aaron Rodgers, right. No, Yeah, there is a little
bit of like, hey, you know, I'm holding down the
fly by its wings and I'm just messing with it
at this point. I look, I'm sure there's some ill
will here, and maybe there always will be. I don't
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know how long he intends on holding some of these grudges,
but it does feel like Aaron is upset with a
lot of the things that have happened in recent memory
with the Green Bay Packers, and that includes the drafting
of Jordan Love without asking. Essentially, his permission is what
he was looking for them to do. And I think
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the dissolution of this relationship with the front office, I
don't think it happened overnight, but I do think it
was brick by brick. He was building his case against them,
and I do think that he was making them pay
for it a little bit in passive aggressive ways. And
one of the ways may have been leaving Matt Laflour
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waiting for him at several times throughout their time working
together instead of showing up to meetings that he was
supposed to show up for, or maybe it was not
answering his phone during the offseason or off seasons. We
don't know how long this sort of stuff was going
on for. There might have been just a little bit
of retribute that he was looking for and so making
these guys sweat may it felt good to him. Look,
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there's not not everybody can do this, by the way,
Like I don't know if you have that bone in
your body, I really don't. I'm not really into watching
people suffer for my pleasure, you know. But but that's
what This depends on the day, Richard. Yeah, I mean,
it depends on how the day is going, because sometimes
there is a little bit of all right, let's watch
it work, because well, well y'all have that. Remember though
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I'm a doctor, I took the Hippocratic oath, which is
do no harm, do no harm. It's my fucky harmon.
Uh So, yeah, as a as a practicer of medicine,
I really follow that too. In all the aspects of
my life. I like the way you tried to sell
that that was good practitioner of great medicine. Yeah, yea,
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I took an oath to take care of the people.
He's rich. Jordan Burger in for Jason Smith Mike Armen
here in Fox Sports a radio coming out next, America's
coach also talked a guy that took ownership and he
did something that before noon we should celebrate. That's right.
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
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Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific. Brian Dable is America's coach. Not only did
he win the Coach of the Year, but he flat
out just said to the New Jersey Advanced Media Bob
brook Over, quote, yeah, I had smoked in the playoffs.
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I don't have a tally mark on the board, but
I've watched our season quite a bit. You're trying to
figure out why, as you can get better that you
can do in your position, and that's all I asked
the coaches to do, and that's what I talked to
the players about, how can we get better? Saying that
the loss to the Eagles has left a bad taste
that's lingered throughout this offseason thus far. Talking about the
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competitive nature. Obviously they bring back Daniel Jones, You've got
se Quon Barkley on the non exclusive ranchise tag, and
you're gonna go into the marketplace and obviously do whatever
you can to build up the receiving corps and weapons
so that Richie, James and Barkley are not your leading
receivers in twenty twenty three. So the curiosity there. Dave
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Will also proceeded to shotgun a tall boy at eleven thirty. Now,
that's kind of late in the day for us on
the West Coast. Rich As you know, tailgating on a
Saturday or a Sunday, or sitting in your house on
a Saturday or Sunday readying for games. There's no there's
no time limit, you know. And nine am is on
his kickoff on Saturday's here West Coast and ten am
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on Sundays getting after an eleven thirties actually kind of
late in the day. Yeah, you're not kidding. But at
the same token, he was the first coach who cracked
open said beer. He's a leader and so for that, yeah,
he's he's the people's coach. Now, yeah, did he's the
leader of men, one of us? What of us? I mean,
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he's not the guy out in the top of the
I would drink with that guys, Tim and Andy Reid. Right,
it's him and bears with Dabele and cheeseburgers with Andy Reid.
There's no question about it. I mean the coolest coach
now in the league is probably Andy Reid. Although he
gives off the grandfather lee vibes, Brian Dabele gives off
of like the uncle that you you invite first to
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your wedding vibes. Oh, Dan Campbell, good point. And see
I was gonna ask who was on the metal stand.
Campbell probably cracked because we talked about Mike McDaniel before,
and I think he'd be an interesting invite to the party. Yeah,
they're all because you don't know where it's gonna go.
They're all on the podium. You know. Campbell's a guy
that's gonna kick somebody upside the head if you need me. Yeah,
and then after a couple of beers, he's gonna bite
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kneecaps with you. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. If we didn't get
worthwhile activity, there's no question right there. That's your gold, bronze, silver.
We just don't know what in order. You know, it's
it's really that's fantastic. I think we ought to late pole.
Who doesn't like a late pole? I mean it's really important, um,
even on a Tuesday night. Trust me, I'm a doctor.
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The doctor said, you gotta get your stretch in. I
mean a dog doesn't stretch, but humans do, especially before
a meal. It's it's the reality of the situation with
Brian Dable is he should be embarrassed for the performance
against the Eagles because guess what, you gotta go and
face that team twice in the regular season, guaranteed, like
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he cannot get your doors blown off, especially after what
you did on the road in the postseason by a
team that you're going to face twice next season. Because
if for whatever reason, the New York Giants, uh, they
regress at all, and the Philadelphia Eagles stay at the
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the performance level that they were able to sustain for
a year, man, all of a sudden, there's gonna be
a lot of clamoring about, hey was it kind of
of are we looking at the sophomore slump for Brian
Dayble So he's got a ton of goodwill going in
his direction. It could have been too much too soon
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in terms of success in New York because, I mean,
if sa Quon Barkley doesn't stay healthy, that's and your
season is really hinging around his health. What are the
Giants gonna do well? I think that's the biggest question
of coming in right going into the year was all right,
what are you getting from sa Quon Barkley? And for
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those that want to go and bemoan Daniel Jones contract,
they were willing to pay it. Folks. I'm sorry, I'm
sorry you don't like him. He was efficient with the football.
Was he overwhelming? No? And I you know, we could
do the reasoning or excuse, depending on how you're coming
at a circumstance, you decide whether it's a reason or excuse.
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And havinging discernible wide receivers, the guys they'd spent all
the money on were bus Yeah, whatever was going on
with Canarius Tony that's the one that's the one piece
of the equation from their twenty twenty two season. I'd
really like to know what was real behind the scenes
in terms of why that didn't work and why he
couldn't get on the field. Kenny Golladay was about as
bigger waste and congratulation for him. He got the bag
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coming off a game where he or a season where
he played five games for the Lions, was still able
to secure that kind of contract. Good for him, But
he gave you nothing on the field. Nothing. So now
you pushed forward with Daniel Jones, and you made a
big bet that Brian Dabele and Mike Kafka are going
to be able to make him the player that he
was drafted to be. Well, and it's a big bet,
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you know, because even well, let's put it this way,
it's not going to set you back as bad as
say the Russell Wilson contract, But but you are, you
are in the hole for the next two seasons. You know,
you can't really feasibly make a move at quarterback until
at this point twenty twenty five. So if Daniel Jones
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is going to be the guy, and I certainly believe
that Brian day Ball after watch watching what he was
able to accomplish with Josh Allen, I think he can
be the guy. But he has to be surrounded with
a good enough cast and so that means se Quon
Barkley needs to repeat his success. That means that they
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need some more receiving help. I'm sure they're hoping to
score in the draft, and if they don't and something
happens to Barkley at any point this season, the hopes
are going to diminish drastically. Now I say that, but
at the same token, there has been an AFC team
that has rode that same exact scenario I mean basically
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into the ground. But the Tennessee Titans with Mike Rabel,
they played great defense, they had a strong running game,
and they had a Daniel Jones type quarterback in Ryan Tannehill,
and they were a successful team for about a four
year stretch. There. The question is, can say Quon Barkley
stay healthy like Derek Henry did over that stretch, And
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if he can, the Giants are going to be successful
until they need to make another decision on Daniel Jones.
That is the million dollar question as it were. Don't
forget the Eagles with a lot of changes. The Cowboys
are the Cowboys, and the Commanders as of now, are
going at it with Howell in Brissette. Everybody, so opportunity
(29:28):
notch for Dabling company, raise a tall boy with him
as America's coach. He's rich Oinberger and for Jason Smith,
Al Mike Harman, Jason Smith, Joe with Mike Harman rolls
on here. Coming up next, We've got the progressive play
of the Day and final thoughts from the owners meetings.
That's next onme. Be sure to catch live editions of
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the iHeartRadio app. Never skip leg day, Run those Hills
Mount trash more like Walter Peyton did all those years
ago the outskirts of Chicago. Mike Harmon alongside rich Or Burger,
Jason Smith off doing everything he can to facilitate the
(30:10):
final stretches of the Aaron Rodgers trade to the Jets. Hey, Smith,
he's still a packer. They'll be back tomorrow in theory,
but I think he's going to get an ulcer from
waiting for this thing to happen. Rich Oh, yeah, I
mean Jason. He joins the army of Jets fans who
are pretending to play it cool at this point, because
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let's face it, every day that passes by is a
day closer to the potential inevitability that Aaron Rodgers and
the and the and the and the Jets, they never
really truly link up, and this was all just a
fever dream. That's the beauty of it. So long as
that survives, we keep that one percent of hope alive,
(30:56):
that the intent does not become reality for Air and Rodgers.
That would be the best of all worlds for us.
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comes left Nuggets, McCom checks o'clock seven to shoot, takes
a chupper over CJ and knock it down, but three
ball for Curry comes back up the floor celebrating a
little bit. Try to get the crowd fired up. Warriors
Radio on the call down seventeen and a half, a
blistering third quarter performance where they put up thirty nine
(31:37):
oh and then the fourth you know what they did,
They basically doubled it another thirty five point performance, get
an eleven point victory over the Pelicans, now forty and
thirty seven on the year, thirty eight thirty eight for
the Pelicans. As the please Zion eventually play a basketball game,
signs are still there, but a big win for the
Warriors at home. They moved to thirty one and eight.
(32:00):
Curry thirty nine on the night, eight to fifteen from
three point range, fourteen of twenty five from the field,
adding eight assists. Draymond Green had that technical fall and
chaos there eight points thirteen assists for him in the game. Um,
they're They're a team that strikes me as moderately interesting,
giving the uh the lack of firepower and separation in
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the Western Conference. They're rich. I will say this though,
the Pelsman Zion is the people's champ, isn't he. I mean,
keep waiting on him. There's a certain level. We saw
that he got a tattoo though, that says Mountain Zion.
I mean that's a big deal. I just I just
think about him, like, you know, he got he got
(32:43):
the first round draft pick money, he got the big
old extension. He kind he kind of looks like he
loves himself some McDonald's. Um, you're saying that like it's
a bad thing. No, I'm no. Maybe maybe he got
the lifetime supply of Smoothie King smoothies and maybe he
hits it up, Like maybe I did a coffee bar
when I was at Yahoo. Didn't need that many latte's
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in a day, Ritchie, that's not good for you. My
point is like I kind of dig it, you know
what I mean, Like, you know, he's kind of beating
the system a little bit, and every time went in.
While you gotta celebrate a victory like that, it just
makes me happy, like thinking about the thinking about Zion,
just like you know what, I was gonna work out,
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but instead I'm gonna have another Vanilla Hulk from Smoothie King.
It's like the same thing. It's the same thing. Yeah,
you know me, I enjoy the the idea of Zion
more than the reality right now. Yeah, because while he's winning,
I'd like to see him play some basketball. Yeah that's
true too. I Mean I definitely loved watching him playing
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college and then the early exploits in the NBA. But
the guy's got a shrink together a couple more games.
But in the meantime, he is he is sort of
just he is just he's living his best life. If
you can't deny it. I mean there there is a
little bit of I don't know, how could there's a
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little bit of Kawhi Leonard to this story, you know
where it's like, yeah, yeah, you take your time, you
take what rest you need, and you play when you
want to tell me about your your career. We got
like two minutes left here in the show, so short
story time with doctor Rich Yeah, in that locker room.
Because we talked about in the NBA quite a bit.
Ti Shirt has maintained his position. Soon as Lebron got
(34:29):
his record, he quit. I summarize that beautifully. We talk
about Kawhi Leonard, Remember you didn't want to play for
the Spurs. Differing in medical opinions football, we've always seen guys,
or at least for the most part, we've seen guys
rally up, you know, the take the shot from all
our favorite movies. Yeah, I mean, how big a deal
is it for those uh? How animated the discussions get
(34:51):
behind the scenes about treatment? Well, I mean you're talking
about in general, how we're treating in the NFL. Well, no,
just when when Aaron, here's the suggested course of action?
I get you back on the field as fast as
we can versus you know what, I probably shouldn't take
that shot, or I should probably have a longer course
back to the playing field than what you're trying to
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get to me to do here. Those conversations, to be
perfectly honest with you, are usually player lad because there's
so much fear typically that if you stay off the
field for too long, they'll find a suitable replacement and
you'll lose your job. That a lot of times it's like, hey,
what can I do safely or frankly unsafely here to
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get back on the field as quickly as possible. And
those decisions range from you know, getting an injection of
something that's going to numb away the pain while you're playing,
or getting an injection that's going to help with inflammation,
or you know, some sort of radical treatment that you
know not a lot of people prescribe or subscribe to yet,
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but they're going to test it out on you because
you're somebody who really has a lot to risk if
you don't get back out on the field. So yeah,
I mean those are typically player led things. There's not
a ton of pushback from the player at least he's
rich Jorinberger find him on Twitter at Ornburger. He's gonna
take a nap and then get up and do a
show for you on seven sixty down in San Diego.
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Gotta pay those bills. So hopefully you're okay over there, buddy,
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you're feeling all right, Yeah, I'll be okay, just finishing
up a bowl of ramen. Oh boy, delicious, too soon, bro,
too soon. I dig me some noodles in the late
hours in the right Yeah, I like to carbo load
for the last hour always. I kind of dig that
about you, There's no question about it. Yeah, Ad Warren
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in San Diego. Of course here Fox Sports Weekend, yelling
at Steve Hartman and whatever we can get him in
as part of our group here we look to doctor
Rich for all of the student analysis and observations that
he brings. Thank he also owns a flamethrower, so we
got to be careful. Yeah, well, or you gotta be
(01:51):
carefree when it comes to flamethrowing. I ask no question
about it. So the way I like to finish off
my meat is with a ten foot flame shot right
into a habachi grill. That's how I like to do it.
And I I mean at something speechless, trying to come
up with the proper way to phrase it. But at
(02:11):
some point I need to bring this to the Los
Angeles studios. Need to I need to bring this into
the parking structure. We need to find a space on
the patio. We need to do this somewhere so you
guys can understand the sheer power that I'm dealing with.
I'm sitting there trying to figure out from a legal
uh an hr perspective how this works in your favor. Oh,
(02:34):
it'll be fine. I'm you know what I mean. You
know what, it's always ask for forgiveness instead of permission
kind of thing. That That is how I've lived my
entire life. It's really worked to this point. I'm not
saying things won't change, but to this point it's gone successful. No,
it'll dip on a dime for you. It's RUSSELLMANI a
week we talked to Angelo Dawkins Street Profits uh part
(02:55):
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If that doesn't get your hype to go, run through
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So we're fired up to be here with you. It's
so much to take away from the owners meetings. The
one liner that we come back to with Rich is players.
Some players will be able to wear the numbers zero.
That's the big win out of the day. And then
you start piecing it down from there of what got tabled,
what got kicked to the curb all together, and where
(03:39):
we push things going forward. So number range extended for
punters and kickers. Yea, the reset play clock to forty
after a replay reversal, Well, that that seems like it
should have been obvious that that should have taken eight
seconds for them. It's like Peyton Manning Hall of Fame.
You in or out? Yeah, all right, move on. Should
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the play clock reset if the call is overturned? Well, yeah,
of course it should. Um tripping fifteen yard penalty, redefining
launching as requiring one foot. Looking at that a little
bit more, yeah, well, you know you're trying to do
this thing's uh the punt touchbacks to the twenty five
(04:22):
yard line that failed, and some of the others the
fourth and twenty. Let's push that off to another time.
But where everything got thrown up in the air riches
where when it comes down to Thursday night football in
this convention that we've seen at these last few years
(04:43):
of growing entity, the excitement amazon coming in and paying
one hundred billion dollars. I'm just getting at but it
ain't it ain't far off from one hundred billion dollars
to come into to play this game. And what you
saw where a lot of games where al Michaels couldn't
sell it no matter how hard he tried. After a while,
(05:04):
I don't think he tried. Well. There came a point
and in the off season as well, where al Michaels
had given up on trying to polish the proverbial turd
and said, hey, look, you know, on a weekly basis,
now we're handing you a pretty bad product here, and
thank you for joining us, and we're going to get
through this together. I mean, was basically the vibe. And
(05:26):
then you had Kirk herb Street, who was just so
excited to be in the car and finally sitting in
the front street with Uncle Al in the front seat.
He would he was just like this cheerful energy trying
to you know, teach how you know, the the nuances
that he's bringing to him from his years and years
and years on the call at the college football level,
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and Al just shut down the happiness train at every turn.
He would just be like, yeah, well, the game still sucks, right, Yeah,
I mean it really was. It was that kind of
dynamic in the booth. Which did it always lead to
an uncomfortable broadcast? No, In fact, a lot of times,
in my opinion, it led to kind of a funny broadcast.
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Well you're waiting to see what's going to happen next, ye,
Like they're gonna talk away the next three and hour.
What is Al gonna say next? And U and I
think you remained professional. But look the NFL, if they're
good at anything, And we talked about this a little
bit earlier in the show, Mikey, is the fact that
they will change something when it isn't working, and so
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by adding more Thursday night games, I think it's a
make good for Amazon to a greater or lesser extent.
And also it's to prove that maybe with more volume
they're going to have a more satisfactory product because there's
going to be more opportunity opportunities for a satisfactory product.
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We'll see if their call is right. One thing I
do know is that there are more and more players
speaking out about this as the hours tick. Bob, that
this is absurd, that this is a league that's concerned
with players safety, and you are again proving that you're
anything other than concerned about players safe well, and that's it, right,
trying to go through the process to where while you're
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not going into the flex concept as we've traditionally considered it,
the idea that a team could play two and in
some cases three Thursday night games has a lot of
folks raising their hand, led by Patrick mahomes by defending
Super Bowl champions looking over there, going hey, what are
we doing over here? Right? Because they would be targeted.
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Right if you're trying to do them make good and
trying to make Amazon feel all warm and fuzzy, what
are you doing? You're getting Patrick Mahomes into every window
you can. That me and Jason it means I'll get
to watch him die a little bit multiple Thursday nights.
If and when Aaron Rodgers becomes a jet year that
Smith still not a jet, still a packer. But the
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idea of being that with this lexibility, that you may
have a circumstance, and they carved it out very specifically
Thursday Thursday game right Thanksgiving and maybe you're already scheduled.
He here's the way it works out. You play that
next Thursday, that's only gonna counts one game, so you're
still eligible for the bonus. Yeah right, you're shooting one
(08:20):
and the bonus. In this case, you could have two
Thursday games. Because you're so great and we love you
so much. Guess what you're playing relevant football in December
you get a third opportunity on Thursday night football. And
I got to imagine in locker rooms that it's already
the source of consternation to a high level. Now, the
CBA is what it is, and we've talked about it,
(08:41):
and I've eviscerated the concept, particularly from the Demorris Smith
and leadership side. The player side. It's always going to
be a mess trying to disseminate that information properly to
that many players. Yeah right, because even if you're in
the same room together, how many And it's not casting
aspersion on players the old football players are dumb mentality,
(09:03):
but the idea of how many of them really want
to sit there and go through everything from the CBA
because each team rep is going to come back and
they don't necessarily have the bullet points for everybody. They
have the ones they think and the ones that reach
them that they think their teammates are gonna need so
it becomes a very watered down game of telephone. Yeah.
(09:25):
By time it's all said and done, it's like, hey,
you gotta vote for this. Why, Well, you also got
to remember it's a really young coalition of players in
the NFL. Like part of the reason why that NFL
Players Association gets railroaded by its ownership group is because
young players oftentimes aren't well versed in the happenings of
(09:47):
their union because they're too worried and I'm talking about
the majority of these players. They're too worried about just
making rosters no right, just sticking around. Yeah, the average
NFL career is less than three years, so the turnover
is vast on these rosters. So maybe have ten or
twelve guys, maybe if you're lucky, fifteen twenty who are
(10:09):
sticking around on your roster for multiple years because they're
impact players and they're staying healthy, and maybe that stretches
a decade again if you're lucky, and then the rest
of the roster turns over. So what happens is you
get a lot of guys who are ignorant to how
the union works. They're barely keeping their head above water
(10:30):
in terms of their playbook and their ability to stay
on the field. And as a result, you have these
votes that go through on bad deals for the player,
and it's a bad deal after bad deal. Now, don't
get me wrong. The players are benefiting from all the
money that the league is making because of profit sharing
with the network agreements and these streaming rights agreements. That's
(10:53):
all great, and that continues to increase the salary cap.
And so that's a bigger bite of the apple for
the players. And on this last CBA agreement, they were
given a minimum salary incentive. Here where come? You know,
whatever X year in this new ten year CBA that
the players just signed away on minimum salary in the
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NFL is going to be one hundred or excuse me,
it's going to be a million dollars. And so for
those bottom ranking members of rosters across the NFL, this
was a brilliant tact that the owners used to get
them to sign the dotted line because you don't have
to worry about the players getting involved with decision making
on scheduling because they signed away that right. The owners
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get to make those decisions. The players have no say
in it. So nobody consulted any of the players about
Thursday night football games when they said, hey, they're going
to be select teams that are going to play to
Thursday night games because they didn't have to, and so
why would they no? And and that's the thing, right
is that you are, you are considered and working towards
(12:00):
that three year career and seeing how much you can
squeeze beyond that and trying to make above minimum, trying
to make sure you have your space. So that's when
we get into all the talks about long term and
you and I were talking about it earlier in the show.
When it comes to benefits and all of those things,
why those lag because you're worried about the immediacy. What's
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happening to me twenty years from now? That's what most
people do, all right. It's like, all right, yeah, I
got a little bit put away from retirement, but I'm
living now. I gotta pay my bills now, I'll get
that at when I get to that same thing here
when you talk about some of these considerations, and we
see it all the time. Now it's Thursday night football.
How many days of the week will football occupy before
(12:41):
it's done. Week eighteen is going to rear its ugly
head at some point, you know that for sure. So
all of that keeps creeping back in to the mix
as we roll through. Be sure to catch live editions
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(13:05):
Jason spitzche with me, Mike Carmen, rich Hornberger in for
Jason here tonight. He sounds sexy, Rich or me or both.
Thank you. That's it. We're entering that tag team battle
each other. What do they call it, the Fatal Foursome,
four ways fired up. I'm just so giddy the closer
(13:30):
we get. Got a big NXT event. We talked about
that with Angelo Dawkins. The h that's the training grounds,
building your characters, whatever, you know. We got a guy
out of Northwestern that's part of that program. Rich okay,
all right, he played football wildcat. Yeah, they call him
Tank is his character. I like that name. I could
(13:51):
support a tank. It seems like a guy you get behind.
So if we get the merch train going, I fully
anticipate you rocking the tank Ledger. Yeah, you bring a
tank shirt. I'm wearing it. Yeah, we'll make sure that
that happens along the way. But exciting times Final four.
We'll get into that in earnest later on in the week.
But we're talking about the owners meeting, all the commentary
and over the last two days everybody stepped to microphones,
(14:14):
and let's face it, there's not a lot of trust
from you and me. You having been in the league
and knowing how these things work and knowing how the
proverbial sausage has made me from observing the sausage being
served to so many people for though these many years.
You know, Harbaugh talking about yeah we want Lamar's gonna
be here, like you know the old you're not lying
(14:37):
if you believe it's true. The George Costanzas m oh, yeah,
So that's the kind of thing where you talk yourself
into a space. So Matt la floor today, he went, well,
he went into it. Yeah, listen, I'm gonna throw it
out there right away. First of all, I've got nothing
but love and appreciation for what Aaron has done for
so many in our organization. Obviously have experienced a lot
(14:59):
of great eight times together, and we've won a lot
of football games together. Ultimately didn't bring all of the
Super Bowl, which will always be disappointing. And then they
finishes the eulogy. You feel like Will Ferrell's gonna show up,
Sacon all right, clause, my boy, he looks glorious. Um.
(15:19):
But yeah, so he goes into that. I'm not gonna
get into any of that stuff. I know it's disappointing
for you guys, but it is what it is. When
he was asked another question about Rogers the same time,
we're excited about Jordan and how he's been able to
progress as a quarterback, how he's matured as a man. Yeah, yeah,
I like that, matured as a man. And he also
(15:40):
talked about tamping down and tamping down expectation for Jordan
Love because it comes out of thirty years of the
Brett Farve, Aaron Rodgers train with some other guys mixed
in for a couple of games to make you realize
how good you have it and how good it's been
for you there in the NFC North. But I go
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back to something we talked about a little bit earlier. Riches.
They got the best of both worlds, I guess because
Rogers played some pretty good football at times. Was it
a clean season, No, not even close to the MVP
seasons that preceded it. But for those that just say
he's categorically done, I think it's more about Aaron Rodgers,
the guy you don't like, than the player. Considering the
(16:22):
level of quarterback play across the NFL, are you kidding me?
Even at his worst? What are you ranking him tenth
in the league right now? But for Jordan's Love, while
Aaron Rodgers was doing his ayahuasca trail, hanging out with
Miles Teller and all that stuff, Jordan Love got a
lot of reps with the ones. He got a lot
of one on one time with Matt Lafleur, which evidently
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Aaron Rodgers when he had it, he didn't come for
the free cookies and biscuits with the boss. Listen, Aaron Rodgers,
as difficult as he was, especially over the last half
decade in Green Bay, you said it right, Mikey. I
mean he handed you top ten performances from his position
(17:06):
every single year without fail. I mean, like, can you
name ten quarterbacks last season that you'd want ahead of Rogers?
I would I would struggle personally to do that. So well, Yeah,
I understand there's a lot of frustration from the side
of Matt Lafloor and Brian guten Koons for having to
deal with a lot of the off the field stuff,
(17:27):
and I'm sure there's way more than we'll ever realize
there was going on behind the scenes. I think I
think they played this one right. I think that you
got to ride this train all the way to its station.
You gotta let him make the decision. I do think
that they they did sound very weak with any of
(17:48):
their public statements that they made up up to this point.
It was very bizarre, like when people ask them questions.
Instead of just like leaving all the pressure onto Aaron
and just saying like, hey, you know, this is Aaron's world,
we're living in it. We're pleased to support him and
whatever he wants to do next, they were kind of like,
(18:09):
we are really getting frustrated with Aaron, but if he
wants to play for another year, we'll be okay with
that too. Like it just it was just so lame.
I'm so glad that now it's all in the open.
The Jets want him, he wants the Jets, the Green
Bay Packers and the Jets are trying to work it out.
Still he's still a packer, which is bizarre because this
(18:31):
feels like it's it was supposed to be done two
weeks ago and it's still sort of hanging in the
ether here. But it will be done Zoon. And at
the end of the day, I think the Green Bay
Packers played it about as good as they could because
how do you move on from Aaron Rodgers unless he's
the one making decision, and essentially he was the one
making the decision to move on well, and that goes
back to what Goodakoos was saying yesterday, right, it's the
(18:53):
we were trying to reach out. We couldn't get a
hold of them, right right new phone who did kind
of thing or just deciding all right, we'll let you
squirm a bunch before we go public with whatever we're
gonna do on McAfee or wherever else when we emerged
from the darkness, because I never got to ask you
the question when Rogers said he was quote ninety percent
(19:14):
retired before his retreat and coming out hearing that he
was being shopped or that the people in the building
were We're telling a different tale than they were publicly,
What did you make of the ninety percent retired? And
this is becomes a slam that sucker down Dusty Rhodes
revenge tour. Yeah, I just sort of I sort of
(19:38):
felt like, look, there is a little bit of sadism
to Aaron Rodgers, right. No, Yeah, there is a little
bit of like, hey, you know, I'm holding down the
fly by its wings and I'm just messing with it
at this point. I look, I'm sure there's some ill
will here, and maybe there always will be. I don't
(20:00):
know how long he intends on holding some of these grudges,
but it does feel like Aaron is upset with a
lot of the things that have happened in recent memory
with the Green Bay Packers, and that includes the drafting
of Jordan Love without asking. Essentially, his permission is what
he was looking for them to do. And I think
(20:21):
the dissolution of this relationship with the front office, I
don't think it happened overnight, but I do think it
was brick by brick. He was building his case against them,
and I do think that he was making them pay
for it a little bit in passive aggressive ways. And
one of the ways may have been leaving Matt Laflour
(20:42):
waiting for him at several times throughout their time working
together instead of showing up to meetings that he was
supposed to show up for, or maybe it was not
answering his phone during the offseason or off seasons. We
don't know how long this sort of stuff was going
on for. There might have been just a little bit
of retribute that he was looking for and so making
these guys sweat may it felt good to him. Look,
(21:05):
there's not not everybody can do this, by the way,
Like I don't know if you have that bone in
your body, I really don't. I'm not really into watching
people suffer for my pleasure, you know. But but that's
what This depends on the day, Richard. Yeah, I mean,
it depends on how the day is going, because sometimes
there is a little bit of all right, let's watch
it work, because well, well y'all have that. Remember though
(21:27):
I'm a doctor, I took the Hippocratic oath, which is
do no harm, do no harm. It's my fucky harmon.
Uh So, yeah, as a as a practicer of medicine,
I really follow that too. In all the aspects of
my life. I like the way you tried to sell
that that was good practitioner of great medicine. Yeah, yea,
(21:49):
I took an oath to take care of the people.
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Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific. Brian Dable is America's coach. Not only did
he win the Coach of the Year, but he flat
out just said to the New Jersey Advanced Media Bob
brook Over, quote, yeah, I had smoked in the playoffs.
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I don't have a tally mark on the board, but
I've watched our season quite a bit. You're trying to
figure out why, as you can get better that you
can do in your position, and that's all I asked
the coaches to do, and that's what I talked to
the players about, how can we get better? Saying that
the loss to the Eagles has left a bad taste
that's lingered throughout this offseason thus far. Talking about the
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competitive nature. Obviously they bring back Daniel Jones, You've got
se Quon Barkley on the non exclusive ranchise tag, and
you're gonna go into the marketplace and obviously do whatever
you can to build up the receiving corps and weapons
so that Richie, James and Barkley are not your leading
receivers in twenty twenty three. So the curiosity there. Dave
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Will also proceeded to shotgun a tall boy at eleven thirty. Now,
that's kind of late in the day for us on
the West Coast. Rich As you know, tailgating on a
Saturday or a Sunday, or sitting in your house on
a Saturday or Sunday readying for games. There's no there's
no time limit, you know. And nine am is on
his kickoff on Saturday's here West Coast and ten am
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on Sundays getting after an eleven thirties actually kind of
late in the day. Yeah, you're not kidding. But at
the same token, he was the first coach who cracked
open said beer. He's a leader and so for that, yeah,
he's he's the people's coach. Now, yeah, did he's the
leader of men, one of us? What of us? I mean,
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he's not the guy out in the top of the
I would drink with that guys, Tim and Andy Reid. Right,
it's him and bears with Dabele and cheeseburgers with Andy Reid.
There's no question about it. I mean the coolest coach
now in the league is probably Andy Reid. Although he
gives off the grandfather lee vibes, Brian Dabele gives off
of like the uncle that you you invite first to
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your wedding vibes. Oh, Dan Campbell, good point. And see
I was gonna ask who was on the metal stand.
Campbell probably cracked because we talked about Mike McDaniel before,
and I think he'd be an interesting invite to the party. Yeah,
they're all because you don't know where it's gonna go.
They're all on the podium. You know. Campbell's a guy
that's gonna kick somebody upside the head if you need me. Yeah,
and then after a couple of beers, he's gonna bite
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kneecaps with you. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. If we didn't get
worthwhile activity, there's no question right there. That's your gold, bronze, silver.
We just don't know what in order. You know, it's
it's really that's fantastic. I think we ought to late pole.
Who doesn't like a late pole? I mean it's really important, um,
even on a Tuesday night. Trust me, I'm a doctor.
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The doctor said, you gotta get your stretch in. I
mean a dog doesn't stretch, but humans do, especially before
a meal. It's it's the reality of the situation with
Brian Dable is he should be embarrassed for the performance
against the Eagles because guess what, you gotta go and
face that team twice in the regular season, guaranteed, like
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he cannot get your doors blown off, especially after what
you did on the road in the postseason by a
team that you're going to face twice next season. Because
if for whatever reason, the New York Giants, uh, they
regress at all, and the Philadelphia Eagles stay at the
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the performance level that they were able to sustain for
a year, man, all of a sudden, there's gonna be
a lot of clamoring about, hey was it kind of
of are we looking at the sophomore slump for Brian
Dayble So he's got a ton of goodwill going in
his direction. It could have been too much too soon
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in terms of success in New York because, I mean,
if sa Quon Barkley doesn't stay healthy, that's and your
season is really hinging around his health. What are the
Giants gonna do well? I think that's the biggest question
of coming in right going into the year was all right,
what are you getting from sa Quon Barkley? And for
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those that want to go and bemoan Daniel Jones contract,
they were willing to pay it. Folks. I'm sorry, I'm
sorry you don't like him. He was efficient with the football.
Was he overwhelming? No? And I you know, we could
do the reasoning or excuse, depending on how you're coming
at a circumstance, you decide whether it's a reason or excuse.
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And havinging discernible wide receivers, the guys they'd spent all
the money on were bus Yeah, whatever was going on
with Canarius Tony that's the one that's the one piece
of the equation from their twenty twenty two season. I'd
really like to know what was real behind the scenes
in terms of why that didn't work and why he
couldn't get on the field. Kenny Golladay was about as
bigger waste and congratulation for him. He got the bag
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coming off a game where he or a season where
he played five games for the Lions, was still able
to secure that kind of contract. Good for him, But
he gave you nothing on the field. Nothing. So now
you pushed forward with Daniel Jones, and you made a
big bet that Brian Dabele and Mike Kafka are going
to be able to make him the player that he
was drafted to be. Well, and it's a big bet,
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you know, because even well, let's put it this way,
it's not going to set you back as bad as
say the Russell Wilson contract, But but you are, you
are in the hole for the next two seasons. You know,
you can't really feasibly make a move at quarterback until
at this point twenty twenty five. So if Daniel Jones
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is going to be the guy, and I certainly believe
that Brian day Ball after watch watching what he was
able to accomplish with Josh Allen, I think he can
be the guy. But he has to be surrounded with
a good enough cast and so that means se Quon
Barkley needs to repeat his success. That means that they
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need some more receiving help. I'm sure they're hoping to
score in the draft, and if they don't and something
happens to Barkley at any point this season, the hopes
are going to diminish drastically. Now I say that, but
at the same token, there has been an AFC team
that has rode that same exact scenario I mean basically
(28:46):
into the ground. But the Tennessee Titans with Mike Rabel,
they played great defense, they had a strong running game,
and they had a Daniel Jones type quarterback in Ryan Tannehill,
and they were a successful team for about a four
year stretch. There. The question is, can say Quon Barkley
stay healthy like Derek Henry did over that stretch, And
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if he can, the Giants are going to be successful
until they need to make another decision on Daniel Jones.
That is the million dollar question as it were. Don't
forget the Eagles with a lot of changes. The Cowboys
are the Cowboys, and the Commanders as of now, are
going at it with Howell in Brissette. Everybody, so opportunity
(29:28):
notch for Dabling company, raise a tall boy with him
as America's coach. He's rich Oinberger and for Jason Smith,
Al Mike Harman, Jason Smith, Joe with Mike Harman rolls
on here. Coming up next, We've got the progressive play
of the Day and final thoughts from the owners meetings.
That's next onme. Be sure to catch live editions of
The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harman weekdays at ten
(29:49):
pm Eastern, seven pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and
the iHeartRadio app. Never skip leg day, Run those Hills
Mount trash more like Walter Peyton did all those years
ago the outskirts of Chicago. Mike Harmon alongside rich Or Burger,
Jason Smith off doing everything he can to facilitate the
(30:10):
final stretches of the Aaron Rodgers trade to the Jets. Hey, Smith,
he's still a packer. They'll be back tomorrow in theory,
but I think he's going to get an ulcer from
waiting for this thing to happen. Rich Oh, yeah, I
mean Jason. He joins the army of Jets fans who
are pretending to play it cool at this point, because
(30:33):
let's face it, every day that passes by is a
day closer to the potential inevitability that Aaron Rodgers and
the and the and the and the Jets, they never
really truly link up, and this was all just a
fever dream. That's the beauty of it. So long as
that survives, we keep that one percent of hope alive,
(30:56):
that the intent does not become reality for Air and Rodgers.
That would be the best of all worlds for us.
Now it's time, hey, for the progressive play of the day.
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one eight hundred Progressive. Let's turn to the NBA. Curry
(31:17):
comes left Nuggets, McCom checks o'clock seven to shoot, takes
a chupper over CJ and knock it down, but three
ball for Curry comes back up the floor celebrating a
little bit. Try to get the crowd fired up. Warriors
Radio on the call down seventeen and a half, a
blistering third quarter performance where they put up thirty nine
(31:37):
oh and then the fourth you know what they did,
They basically doubled it another thirty five point performance, get
an eleven point victory over the Pelicans, now forty and
thirty seven on the year, thirty eight thirty eight for
the Pelicans. As the please Zion eventually play a basketball game,
signs are still there, but a big win for the
Warriors at home. They moved to thirty one and eight.
(32:00):
Curry thirty nine on the night, eight to fifteen from
three point range, fourteen of twenty five from the field,
adding eight assists. Draymond Green had that technical fall and
chaos there eight points thirteen assists for him in the game. Um,
they're They're a team that strikes me as moderately interesting,
giving the uh the lack of firepower and separation in
(32:23):
the Western Conference. They're rich. I will say this though,
the Pelsman Zion is the people's champ, isn't he. I mean,
keep waiting on him. There's a certain level. We saw
that he got a tattoo though, that says Mountain Zion.
I mean that's a big deal. I just I just
think about him, like, you know, he got he got
(32:43):
the first round draft pick money, he got the big
old extension. He kind he kind of looks like he
loves himself some McDonald's. Um, you're saying that like it's
a bad thing. No, I'm no. Maybe maybe he got
the lifetime supply of Smoothie King smoothies and maybe he
hits it up, Like maybe I did a coffee bar
when I was at Yahoo. Didn't need that many latte's
(33:05):
in a day, Ritchie, that's not good for you. My
point is like I kind of dig it, you know
what I mean, Like, you know, he's kind of beating
the system a little bit, and every time went in.
While you gotta celebrate a victory like that, it just
makes me happy, like thinking about the thinking about Zion,
just like you know what, I was gonna work out,
(33:25):
but instead I'm gonna have another Vanilla Hulk from Smoothie King.
It's like the same thing. It's the same thing. Yeah,
you know me, I enjoy the the idea of Zion
more than the reality right now. Yeah, because while he's winning,
I'd like to see him play some basketball. Yeah that's
true too. I Mean I definitely loved watching him playing
(33:45):
college and then the early exploits in the NBA. But
the guy's got a shrink together a couple more games.
But in the meantime, he is he is sort of
just he is just he's living his best life. If
you can't deny it. I mean there there is a
little bit of I don't know, how could there's a
(34:07):
little bit of Kawhi Leonard to this story, you know
where it's like, yeah, yeah, you take your time, you
take what rest you need, and you play when you
want to tell me about your your career. We got
like two minutes left here in the show, so short
story time with doctor Rich Yeah, in that locker room.
Because we talked about in the NBA quite a bit.
Ti Shirt has maintained his position. Soon as Lebron got
(34:29):
his record, he quit. I summarize that beautifully. We talk
about Kawhi Leonard, Remember you didn't want to play for
the Spurs. Differing in medical opinions football, we've always seen guys,
or at least for the most part, we've seen guys
rally up, you know, the take the shot from all
our favorite movies. Yeah, I mean, how big a deal
is it for those uh? How animated the discussions get
(34:51):
behind the scenes about treatment? Well, I mean you're talking
about in general, how we're treating in the NFL. Well, no,
just when when Aaron, here's the suggested course of action?
I get you back on the field as fast as
we can versus you know what, I probably shouldn't take
that shot, or I should probably have a longer course
back to the playing field than what you're trying to
(35:13):
get to me to do here. Those conversations, to be
perfectly honest with you, are usually player lad because there's
so much fear typically that if you stay off the
field for too long, they'll find a suitable replacement and
you'll lose your job. That a lot of times it's like, hey,
what can I do safely or frankly unsafely here to
(35:37):
get back on the field as quickly as possible. And
those decisions range from you know, getting an injection of
something that's going to numb away the pain while you're playing,
or getting an injection that's going to help with inflammation,
or you know, some sort of radical treatment that you
know not a lot of people prescribe or subscribe to yet,
(35:58):
but they're going to test it out on you because
you're somebody who really has a lot to risk if
you don't get back out on the field. So yeah,
I mean those are typically player led things. There's not
a ton of pushback from the player at least he's
rich Jorinberger find him on Twitter at Ornburger. He's gonna
take a nap and then get up and do a
show for you on seven sixty down in San Diego.
(36:18):
Thanks Ritchie, you got him. Smith'll be back tomorrow. Coming
up next across the vast Fox Sports Radio network, Ben
Maller's going to take you into the night. Remember it's
WrestleMania Week. Don't skip leg day. People, get out there,
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