Hour 4 - Quarterbacks Everywhere!!!

Jason Smith and Mike Harmon talk about the Mets perpetual ineptitude, the Ravens show their hands in the Lamar Jackson saga, the Lakers run to get back into the Game of the Week of the Year, and more!

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Sports Radio. This is the first lady wants to come
wish you luck, and you and you talk about wanting
to push the women's game and make sure that hey,
let's stand up for each other. She wanted to come
wish you good luck before the game, but you didn't
want her in the locker room because her husband, who's
the president in his bracket, didn't pick LSU to win

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the national championship. I mean, that's just stupid. I mean, really,
that that is I said it last night. It's even
more stupid today. Really, But okay, let's just say for
a second, all right, Hey, this is what motivated you.
Joe Biden didn't pick You didn't want Joe Biden in
the locker room. Now you're upset that she wants to
invite Iowa, WHOA. You can't be you can't shut her
out of the locker room and say we don't want
to talk to her. And then well, I'm gonna invite

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another team to go. Oh wait, gonna wait, you're supposed
to just invite us. That's stupid, that doesn't make any sense.
And when I see it makes my brain want to
explode because we take you know, we go from something
that was a serious conversation to now I feel like
this is just hey, we see there's a story here
and we can grab some attention for it. Because this
doesn't make anything that went on before and points that

(01:34):
are made, you're just losing them now at this point,
Angel Reese and Lsu you gotta let this go because
because this just makes you look really bad. First of all,
you didn't want the first lady to come in to
wish you good luck. And then and then the reason
is not because we want to be focused on the game.
We thought it would take us out. No, no, no,
because her husband didn't pick us to win. I mean,

(01:54):
what's going on here? I mean really, what what? What?
What is happening? And then and then to get mad
when they she wanted to talk to the other team.
How do you feel if you're Jill Biden. You go
to talk to both teams and one team has a
big time, transcendent superstar in Caitlyn Clark. And I'm sorry
that other players are in Caitlyn Clark, but she is
the biggest star in all of college basketball. Doesn't matter,

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but she's the biggest star. So is there a little
bit of jealousy there? Probably because hey, we're winning, we're
the chance, but Caitlyn Clark is getting the attention. So
I go to talk to both of these teams to
wish them luck, and I'm told I'm not welcome in
that locker room because my husband didn't pick LSU, had
other teams coming out of the final four to go
win in his bracket. It's not like he had a
press conference saying and hey, you know, I know we

(02:36):
want to talk about the economy. I have a couple
of bills that I want to push through Congress. But first, hey,
here's my final four in the NCAA Women's Tournament. I
do not have LSU winning at all. LSU is overrated
and this is gonna be a first year. Hey, if
Kim Mulki gets the sweet sixteen. That's an accomplishment. I mean, really,
that's not what happened real because you heard he didn't
he picked other teams to win in a bracket. And
then you get mad when she says, Okay, if you

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don't want to talk to me, I want to talk
to somebody from this game. So maybe that's why she said,
if you didn't want to talk to me, I'm gonna
go invite Iowa, which I can't blame Joe Biden for
because if you basically said no, and it's because her
husband picked a different team, I would say, Okay, I'm
gonna go talk to a team that wants to because
I want to raise women's sports up and that's kind
of what I want to do. So yeah, how about

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we invite Iowa too? And now that's what Iowa gets
upset about. This is this is just ridiculous. It's so
again it makes my brain hurt. Yeah. I think part
of it is the if you're going to go full
in and lean in on disrespect as the name of
the game, then this is it. I'd like some more corroboration,
maybe from the White House and doctor Biden that the

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attempt to go in there was even made or how
it was or how it was communicated. We don't want
you know, hey, we're locked because it couldn't been as
simple as hey, we're locked into our final minutes now
and time wise, it doesn't work, and then it becomes
a convenient. Hey, you know President Biden didn't pick us. Dude,
you're thinking it to be no, forget about that, you're

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thinking too small. You want to see Biden's bracket? Come on,
I mean, you don't want to know what's going Hey,
who God, you gotta side. We gotta see what Biden's
bracket look like. Did you have lsu making it and
then like eraced and crossed out? Well? No, I mean
there's there's certainly certainly some of that that comes into
play as well. You know, we want to see the bracket.
That's fine, but it's the discussion point of if you're

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going to fully lean into We were disrespected all the
way along. And and I can't tell anybody out of
the field, as we talked about yesterday, you know those
that decided there there was a racial component to it,
I can't tell you how to feel about it. Uh,
And you know people were doing the let's pull out
the stop watch to decide how long Caitlin Clark and

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who she did the yeo slash sena wave at versus
you know what Reest did. You can go through the
Suppreter film all you want, but they certainly played the
we were disrespected card at each turn. So this is
staying into the character and capitalizing on on the heat

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of the moment. And you know she put out the
limited edition LSU jerseys earlier and all that flows through
a hell of a player, right. I read off the
credentials yesterday when you talk about, uh, the double doubles
and massive accomplishments as an all conference performer and what
she did during the course of the NC Double A

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tournament and anybody that watched it they recognize that. For
everybody else, they just decided they had the fear of
missing out, just like the Caitlin Clark phenomenon in and
of itself. Now I need to comment and how many people,
including your old buddy ko oh I didn't know what
was about, but he was quick to go to Twitter
to call people. Uh, you know, I can't even say

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it even and you can't. Wow, you gotta be careful
harm No, no, no, I was trying to no, no, no, no.
I was trying to think of how to delicately say
it but still get the point across. The bottom line
was it was a terrible take, and it's like, oh,
I'm sorry I didn't understand, like, how about you flip
and read? And that goes for anybody else in your
social media and all the way down the line, a

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bunch of dopes commenting without having context. I don't know.
It's like they're watching political theory play out as well.
But for Amberis, hopefully she's enjoying the run. Can't wait
to watch her play again next year. But in the interim, yeah,
this got to a level of absurdity. Doctor Biden's like
I just wanted to wave and shake hands. And yes,

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I might have been a political operative trying to make
sure everybody was playing nice sandbox, but in the end
it becomes a better story, right for her. I mean,
you know, lean into what you're projecting here. Be sure
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on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app TJ clearly
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I've never understood those lyrics and the song is almost
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best friend Mike Harmon before we get into this big

(07:21):
story out of the NFL, I gotta say, I'm I
don't know if it's just me getting older as as
a person, as a fan, but like today when de
Gram had this huge day for Texas and suddenly it
was this whole new group of people going, well, Ash
de crime is great, Aliah, I was okay with it.
I don't know why. Opening day I was. I didn't

(07:42):
want him to have a big day. I don't know
what it was. But after that, I feel like, yeah, okay,
you had a great day today. Eleven strike out, six innings.
Yeah's release point was great, all these things. Yeah, I'm
just kind of I'm just kind of okay. I'm not pissed.
I mean, I'm not Mark Cuban, Oh, well, you know
we've talked to de Gram's dad, and dad's guy's a problem.
I just I'm just I feel zero. I feel nothing.

(08:05):
He left okay, great, and I can watch him and go, yeah,
all right, that's fine. Maybe because he's playing for the Rangers,
not gonna win anything. But still I feel like, okay, yeah,
he went all right, he took the money and he
went and he was great for us for a while.
We got to World Series. Okay, I don't I don't
feel any any bit of of of of hate or
any bit of upset or any bit of jealousy or bitterness.

(08:26):
I didn't have that today. It was very surprised. Oh
good for you. You moved on even with all of
the issues in your pitching staff. That's mighty big of you. Yeah.
Oh no, no, I saved all that for the Mets themselves,
like but but for de Grom, I kind of let
that go. Oh okay, yeah, what about synder Guard pitching
well for the Dodgers? Her is that it far enough removed? Whatever?

(08:48):
That's fine. Come on, the guy throws eighty two miles
an hour? Now, how much longer is you going to
be in the league? Come on, I don't know. Mannix
did it for a long time. Yeah, okay, okay, yes,
slightly differ pictures. Slightly different was a joke. No, But
and then Greg Maddox reinvented himself as a hitter. You
remember chicks dig the long ball that. Yeah, that works.

(09:10):
But I'm pretty sure I can solve one of the
two offseason stories in the NFL that just continue to
drag along without any end in sight. No, not Aaron
Rodgers and the Jets, which hopefully is coming soon. Hey,
he was photographed going into a crystal shop to buy

(09:31):
crystals in real hoity toity neighborhood in La Oh, Aaron
Rodgers and buy crystals. No, I'm pretty sure I can
solve the Lamar Jackson situation. Because today was kind of
a it was a different kind of day for the Ravens.
As GM Eric to Costa had a press conference to
discuss the NFL Draft. Now, of course, every question became
about Lamar Jackson, and the PR guy had to stand

(09:54):
up and say, these are questions about the NFL draft. Yeah, yeah,
that's great, thank you. Yeah, hey, Eric Till, what about Lamar?
I'm sorry, this is about the NFL draft. Yeah yeah,
so okay, sorry about that. So hey, so why are
you training Lamar? And then would you take a quarterback
in the draft? These questions are about yeah, yeah, yeah,
I got So. He gets asked questions all about Lamar

(10:15):
Jackson and he doesn't really refer to Lamar by name.
There was nothing out there the message of we love Lamar.
We're just waiting for this to figure out. The John Harbaugh,
I don't know what's wrong. I don't know what's happening.
I don't talk to anybody. I love Lamar. I'm hoping
this turns out. I'm coach, but eric to Costa through
out there that hey drafted a quarterback in the first round.

(10:39):
We might do something like that. I don't want to
insult anybody in the draft, um, but you know, I
would say there's probably more than four guys that can
that can be significant quarterbacks in this league, in this
draft class. Forget about where they might get more than four.
But I mean, I'm you know what, am I gonna say? Seven? Eight?
Whatever it is? But the fact is that we think

(11:01):
that you can get a quarterback in the first round
or the third round or the fourth round who have
a chance to develop, you know, and go back to
Tyrod Taylor. I don't know when we drafted him. Is
that the fifth round, sixth round, whatever it was, years
and years and years ago. Derek Anderson took him in
with the six or seventh, right, so you can get

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good quarterbacks. You saw what the Niners did last year
with Brock Purty. It's quite possible to get a good
quarterback at any point in the draft. Obviously, the goat,
as my son would say, Tom Brady was a sixth
round pick. So they're all over the place in the draft.
You have to have good scouts, you've got to have conviction,
and in some cases you gotta get lucky too. Well, hey,

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thirty one other gms are happy. Oh, we can get
a good quarterback anywhere. Mike car doesn't matter. They're all
out there. There's more than four guys. There's five. There's
guys in the second round, of the third round, of
the round. Anybody you pick, it's gonna be a winner.
It's gonna be it. It's great. There's no there's no
selection you can make that are gonna turn out bad
for you. You could get a winning quarterback anywhere, like
Derek Anderson or Tom Brady or to Ron Taylor. I

(12:09):
understand there's a big difference between these level of guys,
but they're all good. You can get them all anywhere.
Oh my goodness, Eric, that Costa just stopped talking Brady.
What two thousand Derek Anderson was two thousand and five. Yeah, yeah,
I mean I like that you wanted and wanted to
go in house with a couple of guys. I mean,
look at what we did. It's like, okay, nice, nice guys,

(12:30):
long long careers, you know, better than average. But from
the quarterback perspective, that exactly set in the world on fire.
How about you expanded to the rest of the NFL,
which you did by going to the obligatory Brady. There's
a big gap between Derek Anderson and Tom Brady. When
you're trying to sell your point. If you can find
quarterbacks anywhere about you go into your contract. I mean

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you could go to guys that were undrafted free agents
that you brought in for a look see from other teams,
Guys like Romo, right, and we talk about him a
lot with Romo and as you know, I'm drafted out
of Eastern Illinois. How about you you talk about him
and some of these guys where you can find value.
Don't don't keep it in house. You don't have that
great a track record and bringing those guys up just

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says okay, the quarterback will be serviceable. Great, And then
there's Brady. So serviceable to the greatest of all time.
We got a lot of large and for air. Here,
let's go. Hang on, wait, I'm looking at my desk
next to me. Hey, a top drawer. Oh, there's three
quarterbacks on the top drawer. Three quarterbacks in there. Hang on,

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middle drawer, I got two quarterbacks. Bottom drawer. I get
quarterbacks in the bottom drawer. In the back, Oh, there's
a couple. Yeah, they got a couple of I got
quarterbacks everywhere in my car. Wait, hey, let me check
my pockets. Wait hey, oh my back pocket. I got
a quarterback at a quarterback here in the sidebi quarterbacks everywhere.
That's so easy. Why don't we worried about Lamar Jackson.
We can get somebody anywhere we want to. It's so easy.
But that's just it. I mean, that's why he's not

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worth two out of thirty million dollars. I can't get
him anywhere. Boy, there's there's eighth, there's fifteen. I mean
there's a guy. There's gonna be a guy who's mister irrelevant.
I mean, look look at brock Purty. All you get
him anyway? Forget about all the other hundreds of players
taken outside the top ten of the draft that have
failed miserably a quarterback. Let me just mention a few

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guys that we can get him anywhere. But here's a
big thing, and this is where I can solve and
the Ravens can solve this Lamar Jackson story. Clearly, they
are now at a different point with him not talking
about him, not saying they want him back, all these things.
They know he's not coming back. Maybe it was the
day of the thirty two team breakfast at the owners meeting,

(14:36):
he tells everybody he wants a trade, right when everybody
is sitting down to eat. But for whatever reason, they
know he's not coming back, and all you're gonna do
is franchise tag him. He's gonna say he doesn't want
to play for you. It's gonna drag all the way
into training camp, and on the eve of camp, they're
gonna say, Okay, Lamar, we're gonna we can trade you.
You gotta play one year for thirty five million with

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Team X. We're going to get a low first round
pick back for you. And all you've done is postpone
the future of your team. All right, now, let's solve it,
because if I'm the Ravens. Instead of backing off this
pretending this doesn't exist, which is what they've done for
the better part of the last year, step in and
make it happen. You talk to Lamar Jackson and say,
what are you willing to take from another team? Tell

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us the money you want. And Jason lockeinfor who's been
on this story as long as I could possibly imagine,
said hey, Lamar, what he would take from somebody else
is less than what he would want from the Ravens
because he's looking into it as I've sweated blood for
you the last years, and you don't want to pay
any but my new team, I'll take a little bit
less from so okay, And I think you have to
understand now that Lamar Jackson the Ravens see the landscape

(15:43):
in the NFL. He wanted a two hundred fifty million
dollar guaranteed contract. Guess what the league has told him.
We don't want to give that to you. Nobody does.
You're worth two first round picks. The league has said
you are not worth that. We are not giving that
up for you, as much as you might like it
and might say, but that's what we feel your value is.
The league has told you two first round picks two
hundred fifty million guaranteed is not happening. So I find

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out exactly what Lamar wants, and then I call teams
like Green Bay because they're going to trade Aaron Rodgers.
I call it Lanta. I called Tampa Bay, I call
San Francisco, I call Washington, and I say, look, here's
what Lamar wants. How interested are you? Let's make this work,
and here's what I want. We want a young quarterback.
We want a player or two and a couple of

(16:27):
second round picks. And that's and we make it happen
and it works, and then they can move on and
not have to worry about this dragging on and hanging
over the franchise. You can take those second round picks
and use them this year. Next year, you can use
second round picks to move up if you want. If
you really like a quarterback that you like in the
top ten, top fifteen, you want to get up there.
But you can call some of these teams, I said,

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and you can get Jordan Love or Desmond Ritter, or
Kyle Trask or Trey Lance or Sam Howell in addition
to a player and a couple of second round picks,
and then you make it work, and then it happens. Okay,
Lamar gonna get a hundred and thirty million garrant, whatever
it's going to be. And then suddenly Lamar's got his
new team, and you have a value back for him,
because you have to understand that whatever you think the

(17:09):
value of the player is might not be what everybody
else thinks of it. Right. I look at it this way.
If if you live next to somebody in a year ago,
they sold their house for eight hundred thousand dollars, right, Hey,
it was pretty good last year. Right. It was a
It was a seller's market, and interest rates were down
and you were able to you're selling a house, you're
making more. Now you're paying more for a house you're buying,

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but you're also selling it for more. Okay, so the
people next door, do you move the seller house eight
hundred eight hundred grand? Hey, our houses are pretty much
the same. We want to go on the market right
now for eight hundred thousand dollars. And your realtor shows
up and says, yeah, I think we should go on
the market for about seven hundred grand. Wait, wait, whoa, whoa,
whoa our neighbors sold his house last year for eight
hundred thousand. Yeah that was last year. Interest rates are

(17:50):
way up now, and it's there's not a lot of
inventory out there to be able to do it. So yeah,
we kind of want to. Oh no, no, no, no,
we're not doing not going on the market seven hundred grand. No,
I'm holding up because they sold last year for eight
hundred we want eight hundred. Guess what that was last year?
That was a different time. Now. If you want to
hold lot and wait, maybe the interest rates will come
back around for you and you can sell your house
and make that in. But if you want to sell

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right now, and right now is when Lamar Jackson's available,
and when he's out there, because eventually the time's gonna
have to come. He's got to play a game, and
he's not playing for you. You want to move on,
So what the value is out there? Something like that
will make Lamar Jackson more tradeable and it will make
you let you guys, move on and you have a
lot of money to save and you can draft your
next quarterback or hey, if you get a young quarterback

(18:34):
and you have Trey Lance and Tyler Huntley battling it
out in training camp. Okay, that's not bad. Or you
take a guy in the first round, whatever you want
to do, but you move on from it. You get
the value back that what the league is telling you.
Lamar Jackson would go for because I think a lot
of teams would say, m a young quarterback that we're
not going to need because we got Lamar. A player
or two someplay. You call the Packers and say we

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want Jordan Love and AJ Dillon and a couple of
second round picks or something like that. Who knows, and
you make it happen. Lots of teams would do that,
and you can get a young quarterback, get players, get
a couple of really good draft picks, guys are gonna
be starters for you for the next few years, or
ama to move up to get a star player you want.
This would get it done, because this is what the
value of Lamar Jackson is. Yeah, I mean I dig

(19:16):
the game of chicken that we get to watch. How
great it feels if you're DaCosta, because you still have
to after you're done with Lamar Jackson, questions like, so,
what's the wide receiver class look like for this year?
How you feeling everybody, because he's already stepped into that
a couple of times with their shot Bateman and the evaluation,
and now the rumors that they've actually offered a contract

(19:38):
to Odell Beckham Junior. How much that's worth we only
can speculate at this point, but you're trying to solve
a bunch of these issues. I don't think he should
be allowed to get in front of a microphone again,
because I think that has been an abject failure at
every turn and just creates frustration within the marketplace. And

(19:59):
where you once add everybody on board because you look
like you knew what you were doing and that there
was a plan in place, you got the benefit of
the doubt. Right now, it's a flaming dumpster fire on
a river. That famous gift that we use so often.
That's where we're at in this process. So you know,
you're playing the giant game of chicken between what a

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team may or may not offer Lamar, what might be
available to you during the draft, and what type of
trade may be there for you after. I think it
makes for great theater, but I think you'd be foolish
to not go down your route of at least really
making sure you're hunkering down and getting as many offers
and considerations as possible, because you may end up just

(20:46):
being left holding the bag. That doesn't mean that you
don't get to a point where maybe you can reconcile
a bit to where Lamar plays on this tag banking
on a bigger prove deal right the old bet on
yourself prospect since this offense has been tailored to him.
Because that's where the other part is, where you're going

(21:08):
into a season of trying to figure out where the
fit is and you know, can you integrate him without
making a bunch of personnel moves. I don't. I don't
know what the reality is. Some would tell you he'll
fit seamlessly somewhere else. So we'll say, nope, nope, nope.
It's only because this is the player he is, and
how much of that is because he's been hamstrung by

(21:30):
what the Ravens have done. It really makes for a
good theater with just a couple of weeks before the draft.
But Da Costa spinning and sounded like he wants to
yell vote Quimby at the end of every sentence. Be
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Mets suck. I hate Bob Yuker and I normally love
Bob Yuker. How you have a war against Bob Uker.
I'm fighting against Bob Uker. Now be carefully. You're fighting
wars on too many fronts. I think I am. Get up,
get up, get out of here. No, just get out

(23:15):
of here, man. So you're gonna be okay? I mean,
it's only a weekend and you're already getting anxious. Fenley
tried to goad you with talk of the Seattle Mariners.
I mean, how are you feeling that? Aint? Listen, I
told you the Mariners are gonna win the world so
gonna go to the World Series and they're two and
five and the Mets stink. But hey, the Knicks are

(23:38):
really really good, so okay, you giving you get And
Jesse Edwards is coming back to Syracuse for another year,
so there's that too. So I'm feeling pretty good. I
gotta look at the positives and they gotta let the
negatives not, you know, waymi dabble when we keep playing
stuff like Bob Yuker's final call that bleeping game. What
else am I supposed to do? Sound to silence ain't
helping either. No, no, it's not, it's not. It's not.

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It's not the calming song that you think it is.
Tell Allen, tell it's tough times, buddy. I mean, we
had the game of the Year in the NBA. Wow
wow wow. Oh, Harmon says it. You're right there with it.

(24:21):
I say, you make me wait and you go, oh whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
I mean harmony. Man, We're just yank yang. Try Jason.
I'll be there for you. The game of the Year
in the NBA tonight and the pension. That's what I'm

(24:45):
gonna say on Tishert's last day here, Get out, get
out of here. God, Alex Tyshert is fired. Tell Jason
Dell Jason I quit. So yeah, thanks a lot for that. Now,
let's just say the speaking of the NBA, right, like
we saw the game of the Year tonight, the Clippers

(25:06):
beat the Lakers, and the Clippers have the inside track
now to not finishing in the playing round. We see
a lot of fing We talk a lot about teams
and this drama that exists surrounding the mediocrity of the
Western Conference. When when I and one of the reasons
why I think we're so caught up on this is

(25:26):
that the fear could be that the NBA playoffs could
be pretty boring, that the Nuggets are just better than
everybody in the West and the Bucks are just better
than everybody in the East. They clinch the number one
overall seat tonight, the Celtics, I potentially give them some
what of a chance against the Bucks, but probably not.
The Sixers no, because I'm never buying the Sixers and

(25:46):
we might just be okay, we're waiting for the inevitability
of Janis and Yokich and it's the Bucks and the
Nuggets in the NBA Finals. Well, I'm not going on
board with your Nuggets thing. I mean, I do like
what the Bucks got. They at tremendous output Portois and
Lopez today, what they could buy for like fifty three
points in a dominant, nationally televised effort in taking care

(26:11):
of the Bulls right close game early fourth and then
pulled away as Jannis watch. So I like them. And
then the Celtics once you get Jalen Brown back in.
So I'm on that side the Nuggets. I know what
I'm getting from Yokich. I don't know what I'm getting
from the rest of these guys. I like the muddled
mess that it is. Give me the Sacramento Kings. Let's
go the one team that's proven they can win on

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the road. Baby, look at you with the Kings. I'm
on board, buddy. Let's go. Let me tell you something, buddy,
you think I would never be I would love for that.
I'd love to see Sacramento make a crazy as a
runder the NBA Final. That would be awesome. A body
drives for you. Twittering out about a fresca Mike has

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swollen down The Jason Smithshow with Mike Carmen my buddy
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