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This is the best of the Jason Smith Show with
Mike Carmen on Fox Sports Radio. Well, Mike and I
on the back end of our day night doubleheader as
we were in earlier today for Doug Gottlieb from twelve
to two Pacific, we're here now. And remember you need
to buy separate tickets for the Jay Night doubleheader. You
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don't just get in for one price. It's separate. You
have to leave the ballpark and come back in the
turnstile for the night game. This is not a twin bill.
This is not one. You have to pay separately for
our shows tonight. Well, except if we build out that
arrangement whereby maybe there's a nap place, maybe there's a
ball pit. A little bit about side carnival thing, kind
of like babysitting in between. Okay, you had to go
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to work, maybe you had to go to the bar
across the street, but you wanted to leave the kids
with an activity. They get to run around the bases
in between or something. We look, we're looking for every
revenue stream we can get, so maybe we do that.
There the official nap suite, right, there's a bark, a
lounger or a shower, some snacks, yeah I know some
of them. And you just make some of the seats
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into reclining seats where you can just lay on them
and nuts put your feet up on the ones in
front of you. And that's you get a nap. You
get a nap between games. That's what I like. Hey,
you got three hours, what are you gonna do. I'm
gonna nap. I'm gonna take a walk up to the
storm and to buy a hat or a jersey or something,
and I'm gonna walk around and get a hot dog. Well,
there's hardly anybody in the park, but it don't had
this like the ballpark is like it's its own thing
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for me right now, And I'll pay extra money to
stay in the park in between games. Sure, how about
how about that you take one of the sections and
you make that the bark a lounger section. Look at
you thinking right there, although, and you get someone to
check on you every half hour to make sure you
don't get sunstroke and to give you um water and
UM and sunscreen. Yeah, but the leather would crack pretty
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quick being out in the sun the seats all the time.
Well no, but I mean you gotta take care of that.
You gotta condition that leather. You gotta make sure you
cover it up when the games are not in session
or it's not nap time in between your double header. Okay,
it works, now, we could do that, all right, we
could do that now. Uh. Look, we got a lot
to talk about tonight with the playing round starting tomorrow
for the NBA. But I have a big question because
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you know, justin Frostburg, I producer spent a lot of
time to me today telling me, warning me about how
Max shures or what is outing was going to be tonight. Hey, Frostburg,
how did Max shus or do tonight? My internet hasn't
been working. How how did you do tonight? Because I
haven't seen that. What did you get up? Like four
or five six runs in a hand up ban or
you played the Podrec? How did you do? You played
the Podre? You should be thanking me for beating the Podres.
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You should be thanking we thank you, you mean you
mean everybody's all American World Series prognostication the champion. They
had it last year when they were in the hunt
Max Scherzer. Tonight, five innings, one hit, Mets beat the Padres.
Thank you, thank you very much, thank you, thank you.
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Get to the real big, thank you, thank you. Look,
Mookie Bets gotta hit. Mookie Bets gotta hit. He actually
he did not strike out, and he did not into
a double play. He actually got hit. That hit went
over the fence. No, it was it was good. It
was good. And maybe giants. Yeah, we got a lot
of big games tonight and the Rays may never lose.
Then the Lakers are bleeping back. We'll get to the Lakers.
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The Tampa Bay Rays win again today. They are now
ten and oh, first team to start ten and o
since nineteen eighty seven. Now they've been playing the absolute
worst teams in Major League Baseball. But still they have
like twenty five home runs. They've allowed like eight runs.
And yes, it is the a's it's the worst teams,
but Tenano is still ten and oh the Rays may
never lose again schedule right, yeah, they may never lose again.
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Well that's why everybody here in Los Angeles is losing
their mind because the Dodgers have been struggling against the Diamondbacks. Yeah,
so there's a little bit there, but I mean you
go back to those eighty seven and Brewers man Rob Dear,
Glenn Braggs, little BJ Surhoff getting after Dale Sveain. Oh yeah,
that would Yeah, that was a good dummer. BJ Surhoff.
He was supposed to be great. He's supposed to be
a Hall of Famer. BJ Surhoff nineteen eighty seven tops cards.
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I had many that was like Robin. And that's when
Robin Yatt was winning an MVP playing center field. I think, yeah, right,
he when MVP playing shortstop in like eighty three, and
then he won one in like eighty seven, eighty eight
playing playing center field. He's a fourth Yeah, hell of
a first name. I'll tell you. I'll tell you no
no no no no no no no no no no
no no no no no stop stop stop stop stop.
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But no, seriously to say something and this is this
is tough because I'm gonna say something good about something
I'm not a big fan of. It. All is that
this year, more so than any other in the last
few years, the beginning of the Major League Baseball season
feels like the beginning of the NBA season, where it's
a celebration of the sport and there were big matchups
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that we pay attention to, and Opening Night of the
NBA really lasts for about a month because we get
great matchup. So, oh, this is the first time we're
getting Lakers Clippers. This is the first time we're getting
Buck Sixers. Oh, we got a great one tonight because
it's the Nuggets and the Knicks, whatever it is. And
that's the way, and it feels great for the NBA
for the first month the year because we're not only
are we celebrating the sport, there's a big level of
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excitement and every night feels like Opening Night. It feels
that way with Major League Baseball this year, where things
are being paid attention to a lot more ensure. Some
of it is the effective Showeo Donni and what he's
been able to do, but baseball came in at instead
of ramping up and into the season. Baseball came in
at a really high level coming off the drama of
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the World Baseball Classic. And as much as I don't
like it, because you know, see Edwin Diaz, I can't
deny that it's had a great impact on the sport
and on the fans and on its relevancy. So much so,
how far are we from saying, hey, maybe we should
play the WBC every two years, every three, every four years.
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That's great, But how about we play it every We
can play the w We made this thing up like
twelve years ago, why why not play it now? We're
gonna see more WBC. The players love it, yes, the
teams aren't. Big fans just still gonna try to keep
some players away from it because they don't want them
to get hurt. All of these things are gonna happen,
but we're still going to see more of it and baseball,
And that's one thing I gotta say. I love the
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fact that baseball has started up at a ten coming
into the season. Instead of being hey, baseball is here.
No more people are paying attention. Everything is up, interaction
is up. It's up. Younger people are paying more attention,
and it's a direct result of because of the excitement
of the World Baseball Classic. And I gotta give the
nine and you know, you know me, you know I
believe it because I'm giving a nod to something I
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don't want to see ever again, because I don't want
to see anybody get hurt, especially on my team. You know,
I'm telling you the truth. And this is a This
is a huge, huge jump for baseball to start the
way it has in the past couple of weeks. Well,
you prime the pump, all your stars at the ready,
and some of the biggest names maybe showed a little
more of themselves. One of the things I think that
came out of the World Baseball Classic and into this
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year Mike Trout. He's been a little more vocal and
we're getting to see a little more of him. Hell,
Tops did a thing where they inserted these cards. You'd
love it. One is bid over four grand right now,
ninety nine cards different athletes. You get a follow back
from him. Now, it doesn't guarantee interaction, but someone's bit
up four thousand dollars hoping that Mike Trout'll call and
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tell them about the weather or something. But it's that
kind of thing, the rules changes and seeing how those
would be implemented, whether there'd be a bunch of meltdowns
and issues. Yeah, we've had a couple of grizzly injuries.
That O'Neil Cruse play at the plate that got everybody
excitable yesterday was rough. Your guy Diaz going down today
in a rundown to covering third base. Tim Anderson gets
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clipped and has to leave the game as the White
Sox played the Twins. So you got a lot of
that flowing but big moments and just an anticipation on
how this is gonna flow. Right. Are we gonna get
more often, generate more activity, games are shorter? I don't know.
There's just a little more palpable excitement for baseball than
there's been in a while. And and as I guess,
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an old man, because that's what I'm supposed to be, right,
old man that likes baseball, I'm pretty excited about it.
And here I was. I was just excited till I
stopped talking and the Braves just walked off. So now
now I hate baseball again. I said, to watch the
Braves walk off and rip the jersey off. I like
the Brave. I know it's the Reds, but I'm like,
I don't know why the Braves just make me hate baseball.
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I don't know why they they just do they just
because they dominate vision. They just irk me. You know,
it's one of my favorite words in vex or two
of the greatest words in the English language. That vex
is a pretty good word. It's a pretty good word.
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We have a big time Lamar Jackson visit with Jason
lockin for coming up in a few minutes. Because after
the news of Odell Beckham Junior could finally we see
things turning around a little bit. But this story just
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broke a little while ago, and yeah, I don't know it. See,
I don't know if this is good or bad for
a guy who's gonna go number one overall in the
draft in the year. Caleb Williams is gonna have a
new guy in his year in his ear at USC
as Lincoln Riley is expected to hire former Cardinals head
coach Cliff Kingsbury. There you go to work with the
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team's quarterbacks. This, according to sources college football sources putting
this out. So Kingsbury, who, of course coach Kyler Murray,
who was taking number one overall, now working with who
was going to be the next number one overall, picking
Caleb Williams, They're gonna score like sixty a game, I'm sure,
but I don't know. William's arm might fall off at
the end of it. Who knows, well, I think when
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you when you talk about just pure quarterback, why this
is a victory. Kingsbury doesn't have to have anything to
do with the defense, doesn't have to try to shepherd
a team on the back hand of the schedule. You
just give him a game note. Don't put any date
on there, don't put any week nine, week ten, because
he starts freaking out and bad things happen from there,
going all the way back to his days at Texas Tech.
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Don't do that. I don't do that. Just it's in
a vacuum. The weather is nice here in southern California,
a little chillier at night. But you know what you can,
you can excuse that away. Just keep him a prize
that it might as well be game three of the
season and everything will be just fine. So what you do. So,
so what you're telling me is, then if I think
I can read you right, they'll start out seven and
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zero and then lose their last five games. But I'm
optimistic by the fact that he doesn't have to try
to coach up the full roster. See, he's got nothing
to do with the defensive end of things. It's all
just about keeping the foot on the pedal, and I
think offensively, And we could go through the metrics. The
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off events, for the most part, still work now in Arizona,
bogged down because while they were, the attrition was awful
year after year, and Kyler Murray, you know, as Steve
Kim told us, he could have worked harder. We'll get
to Steve Kime because I have some choice thoughts for
his uh level and special brand of idiocy in terms
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of getting chirpy about himself. He's basically talking himself out
of any future jobs. But for Kingsbury, you've seen the
success that he's had with QBS. Again, as long as
he doesn't have to manage an entire roster and try
to get the game planning of all of it together,
this will work. Yeah, just help him help with the quarterbacks.
He'll be an advisor. Hang out at the beach, come
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in and tap in for a couple hours, give some advice,
give some nuance, and then and then walk away. It's good.
But yeah, the seven and oh certainly is is on
the table. Yeah, and then and then seven and five
and then But how do you like he already threw
the ball five hundred times last year? Caleb Williams did
Cliff Kingsbury in his interview, saying, Hey, I saw you
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missed like four or five chances in a couple of
games you could have thrown the football again. How about we, guy,
we go wait, we could throw the football more? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
let's get those. Let's get those passing at times well
up over forty a game in every game, we could
do it. I mean, like, I don't know that the
passing game was the problem with well, I don't think.
I don't think. I don't think he was the issue.
But now we got another guy coming in here who's
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coached number one overall pick. How about you have somebody
come in and coach defense a little bit. I think
I think we need that. I think that a little
bit more well, I think I think for Lincoln Riley
that probably would have been the better move. Here's Wade
Phillips or somebody to come in and help on defense.
But either way, the more names you bring in, the
less it's on you. I mean, look the advisor. I
don't know what he was doing in that room. I
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don't know what he did do him. What do you
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weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven pm Pacific. Well a
huge headline in the NFL from this weekend, Odell Beckham
Junior the beneficiary. You have a huge bidding war, except
not at all. The Baltimore Ravens decide we'll give you
fifteen million dollars to play here next year. Shortly after
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pictures on his Instagram of him and Lamar Jackson congratulating
each other. NFL Network reporting earlier today that both Lamar
end Odell had talked in the offseason about teaming up
to win a Super Bowl. So this year, does this
mean Lamar is gonna be a Raven? After all the
crap that's gone on, nobody better help us break it down.
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Join us on the hot line right now. Long time
NFL insider for Odyssey The Washington Post. You can follow
him on Twitter at Jason Locke and for it is
Jason Locke and for what's happening? Jay? What's going on? Gentlemen? Dude?
But that's my question for you. All this Lamar Lamar,
and now over the weekend he and Odell are talking
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and he signs, I mean, is Lamar Jackson gonna stay?
Now after all of this, I look, um, all right,
let's kind of start going do this sorting it out.
Ken having Odell Beckham be like a re recruiter calling
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card someone to to be a beacon of goodwill between
the franchise and him, absolutely, like are these dudes having
fun in South Florida? And are they magnetic athletes and
magnetic personalities who could do some really cool things together.
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Definitely does overpaying for Hotel Beckham mean that Lamar Jackson's
coming back. No, No, Odell Beckham is here for one
reason because look, yesterday's Easter Sunday. Obviously people are doing
things with their family. I had three people in the NFL,
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including two of whom I would say are very religious,
and so it is like, you know, a very holy
day for them. Call me saying, what the hell are
the ravens doing? Like? Who were they bidding against? Why
were they doing this. No one else would have given
them more than ten. How could this really be fifteen?
So part of it is optics. Part of it is
the fact that the Ravens have been peeing down their
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own collective leg for the better part of the last
five or six weeks, if not the last few years,
and they've certainly been taking a lot of pr hits,
and they're having trouble selling tickets here, and people are
not really enthused about the type of football they're going
to be playing. And they didn't have any body on
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the roster at the wide receiver position who had any
sort of NFL pedigree catching passes. So I understand it
from that standpoint, and it is absolutely positively a move
born of desperation. Doesn't mean it won't work, doesn't mean
it won't be effective, but it's desperate. But let's be
real money talks, right follow the money. If they're not
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willing to do for Lamar Jackson what they just did
for Odell Beckham, who's never played it down for them,
which is we're gonna, you know, blow people away and
show you how much we think of you, then Lamar
Jackson will still hold out or Lamarr Heven say hold
out because if he doesn't sign the franchise tender, it's
not a holdout, it's just him, you know, maximizing his leverage.
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But like if they don't come to him sometime after
July seventeenth, the deadline to extend them and sweeten the
pot for him, like they sweetened the pot for Odell right,
and incentivize him like the incentivize Odell Or like the
incentivized Roquan Smith, you know, two and a half months ago.
For him to sign a contract here despite only being
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here for six weeks, then nothing's gonna change. So yeah,
do I think it's it's an our branch of sorts.
Do I think it could help their rerecruitment of Lamar? Absolutely,
But they've still got a major issue with Lamar. Did
you and your Baltimore brethren in radio and television bullied
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the Costa into that move? I don't think it's the Costa.
I think it's the owner. We do. I think that
my show in particular, No, no, no, general. I mean
it's conceivable. We've been pointing out for the better part
of the last three years since we started the show,
that they've never paid any receiver more in one year
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than they gave Michael Crabtree six five six years ago. Oh,
come here, right? They never paid anybody more than eight
million a year. So the fact that they got doubled
and do I think they were shamed into some of this? Yeah?
And look if Darius Slay takes what was on the
table a couple of weeks ago and comes here to
work with his former defensive backs coach Denard Wilson who
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left Philadelphia to come here instead of staying in Philadelphia,
is Lamar is Lamar Jackson, Odell Beckham even the thing? No,
because these guys are in a situation where they can
only make one significant swing and if Slay takes their money,
there is no money for Odell. But let's just be real.
If they thought O'Dell Beckham was truly worth fifteen million
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for one year at a minimum, wouldn't they have just
done it three weeks ago and blown everybody out of
the water then, Like, if that's what they truly think
he was worth, and wide receiver is a massive need
here and he has ties to know their offensive coordinator,
wouldn't they have just done it? Then? They would have?
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Why did it happen? Now? It happened now because Slade
didn't take their money, because they had a press conference
last week in which their PR director acted like an
absolute infant. He had a gong show. He was a
total clown screaming at people. They've so lost the plot.
They can't get through a simple press conference without looking
like a bunch of jackasses. Right, they've got more drama
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with Lamar and he's the last man standing. They're not
going to pay DeAndre Hopkins twenty five year or twenty
year or whatever. This was it. This was their last
chance to do something to change perception, to get people
to stop talking about all the things that Dave leaped up.
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And so yeah, they gave Odell Beckham probably fifty percent
more than anybody else in the market would have given him,
including the Jets who are about to talk to him.
And we'll see. Does he play eight games? Does he
play ten games? Does he play seventeen games? I mean
he started twenty games total of the last three years.
That's gotta give you pause. Jason Locke and for our
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guest here, the Jason Smithworth, Mike Harmon Live and the
tirerac dot Com studios. All right, so if there's still
ways to go here for Lamar Jackson. The other big
news today potentially we could see a big shake up
in the draft. As many as six teams have called
the Cardinals to see if they would trade the number
three pick. I can't see him staying there and not
taking a quarterback Jay, But hey, my philosophy be if
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you're calling me, I would say, what if we keep
the pick and we give you Kyler Murray and you
give us another pick, like I would try to do
the old bait and switch if they call me in
that case. Yeah, I don't think these owners are nearly
that savvy. I don't think that franchise is that for
if they're you know, stupid, is a stupid does so? No, Look,
I've been reporting in the Washington Post for a month
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that that pick will absolutely be traded. There's no way
that Cardinals are going to pick third overall and quarterbacks
are gonna go one, two, three, four in this draft.
That's happening. It's going to happen. That's that's just the reality. Yeah,
how many teams have called, I don't know, but I
think if you look at a cluster of teams, I mean,
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Seattle probably doesn't do it, you know, I think they
just take Jale and Carter, or maybe they trade back
a little bit because that's what they love to do,
and still take Jeale and Carter. But you're sitting there
looking at the Lions. You're looking at you know, the
Raiders and the Falcons. I mean, it really doesn't are
we really buying it? And if the owner there doesn't
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want to pay quarterbacks anymore, even though he paid Matt
Ryan top dollar three years after he was worth top
dollar anymore, if they want to do it with a
cheap quarterback, wouldn't Richardson or even Levis make more sense?
The Desmond Ritter, like they are really buying Desmon Ritter,
you know. And Jimmy g how many games is he playing?
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Four or five, eight, ten, eleven? I doubt at seventeen?
You know, that's just to get me over kind of proposition.
And don't they need to sort of have their quarterback
of the future on the ross or somewhere so And
there could be somebody like you know, Minnesota coming way
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out of sort of left field and making multiple moves
to get up there, although I doubt it, but I
think of those previous three teams I mentioned one of
them end up at three, you know, and if they
get ahead of the Colts, you know, are the Colts
fine with taking Levis there? Maybe they are? Or do
the Colts try to force, you know, something with the
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Ravens for Hey, we're gonna give you the fourth overall pick,
and you could do it now and get a quarterback,
or we'll do something after the draft and you know,
we'll just take the pass rusher from Georgia and then
we'll come for your quarterback after the draft. And now
you're even a little bit more leverage against the cap
because he gave all that money to Odell even as
a voidable years. So there's still some obvious things to
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play out here. But yes, Arizona will not be picking
thrown overall now. Joe Douglas decided he needed to get
out of a bar unscathed, so he said, I promised
that Aaron Rodgers is showing up. Smith calls it Roger's
Eve every day. Eventually he's gonna be like an Eagles
fan and he's gonna hate santic Lost. You you will
you'll be you'll be on it. You and Trey Wingo,
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you guys will be so patico it's gonna eventually, it's
gonna eventually work out for you. When is that? Though?
When is that? When? Can you tell me when that day?
Is it going to be the first day of the draft?
Is going to be the second day of the draft?
The draft? If it? Yeah, um, when, I don't know.
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Time between now and I'll say three pm Eastern time,
April twenty seventh, Okay, then all right, then so every day,
every day will be Aaron Rodgers eve until then. It's okay, Okay,
it's exciting. It's good. I'm glad you got that. I
feel good about that. It's like how the Christmas season expands, right.
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The Christmas season used to be like December, and then
it became like, you know, okay, Thanksgiving, and then now
it's like Halloween. You know, they started running the commercials,
Dent it just it just keeps growing. Now now it's
like right after the fourth of July, we go right
to Christmas. Yeah, right after Labor Day. Yeah, you go,
you go to Costco and the Christmas trees are up
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in the in the middle of July. That's outworks. He's
on Twitter at Jason Locking for that is at Jason
lock and Ford check out his latest on the Watchington Post.
Check them out on Odyssey as well. Jay is always buddy,
appreciating my friend. We'll talk to you say thank you,
but I'm digging that sometime between now and three pm
on April twenty seventh. Okay, now, I'm good with that.
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I can have every day be Aaron Rodgers even until then.
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Gobart has been suspended for the play in game against
the Lakers tomorrow night after throwing a punch at a teammate.
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And before you get it, before you get the ins
and outs and the big things from this, I want
you to I want to hear the call. This is
the Timberwolves radio network that had the call of the
punch on the sideline that You've seen the video and
it's amazing, it's shocking. Both both he and Anderson are
going back and forth. They're talking about guarding each other
and blocking shots and who should do that, and Gobart
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gets upset and throws a punch. But listen to the
play by play of the Tea Wolves guys. It's like, yeah,
seeing this thing a million times. Regular season finale and
we had a scuffle on the Timberwolves bitch Anderson and
Rudy Gobert. That's just something you don't see every day.
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I know, the tensions played in this game. You've been
in a lot of heated battles. Nah, yeah, you know
what I'm saying. That was almost like Jim Nance announcing,
you know, a flop shot on twelve and oh, that's
a good up and down there by John rom He
is now going to be about forty feet away for
a potential birdie attempt. And the next time you'll see
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Brooks kept guys on the Jim Jim on the cross rock. Jim,
did you see that? Jim? The guy threw a punchet
is the thinnest teammate. Jim des Bryant never did that
to me. I'd have to drug through a punch of death. Wow, Jim,
did you see that? Jim? Jim Chip? I mean, that's
the thing. Wouldn't you expect some elevation, some inflection of
the artist. Here there we go. It's like, all right,
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oh you're ten bucks. This happened actually on the court, Jim, Jim,
how much do you hate the live golfers? Jim, Jim,
how much do you want to throw a punch to
live golfer? How much you hate them? Jim? Jim? Chimp? Jim,
come on, Jim, tell the truth. How much do you
really hate him? Jim? Come on, Jim tell me Jim
Jim Chip Chip. Sometimes their words betrayed them, But yeah,
this one is very much a all right, what's been
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brewing all year? What's behind the scenes here? What kind
of little chippiness if we've been waiting to boil over
because there doesn't seem to be any element of spottish.
Yeah I expected I expected that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Don't
often see this, Like even Dad, he didn't sell with
a high enough inflection in his voice to make me
believe that this was un expect don't often see fights
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between teammates on the sidelines. But hey, time out, Hey,
this time I brought you brought to you by Hardy's
Hey coming up later on this week. If we hold
the opposition to under ninety nine points, you got a
free shaking. So it's very weird hearing it there describe
that way. And there's been a lot of conversation about
this action by go Baard swinging at his teammate, and
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it comes down to this, according to according to many sources,
is that they had argued back and forth about getting
rebounds and blocking shots. And what preceded the punch was
Anderson telling Gobert, you know, shut up to and he
used the B word, like you go blank blank, and
he used the B word, and that's what triggered Rudy
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Gobert to throw a punch. And there's certain situations I
completely understand where trigger words happen and you lose control
of your emotions, and it happens all at once. Now,
if you're hearing something from a fan, then you gotta
just let that go right, Okay, you know a fan
says something, you gotta let that go all right. A
fan is gonna say something idiotic, try to provoke you
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all the time. That's different now, but something on the court, Yeah,
I get that. There are trigger words and and you
lose control. And you can see where oh I didn't
like being called that for whatever reason, and you have
no reasoning at that moment and you lash out. So
I get it. I completely unders I've seen there was
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a guy that wanted to fight me in a softball game.
This is a rec league softball game a few years ago,
because I called him a meathead, right, and he wanted
to fight me, idiot, because I called because I was
looking for something to say. Okay, all right, number one,
I'm not surprised that someone would want to fight you
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in the league. So what do you mean? Whoa? Whoa?
I was a really good team. I was a real Hey,
I'm Angel Reese. I'm the captain. I was a guy
I gotta make concisions. I'm the captain. I'm the captain.
I was. You're a smart ass by profession, yeah, but
I was a leader one on some twenty five plus years.
Matter what great leader you are and all these other
things you want to ascribe to yourself. In fact of
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the matter is, sarcasm doesn't always read the same way
to people who aren't really wanting sarcasm in the moment
or don't understand sarcasm. There's a lot of people that
it's just lost on them. So you calling someone a
meathead is about his innocuous a term as it can be, Okay,
but it just takes the wrong guy at the wrong time.
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To act like a meat head. Okay, couple of couple
of things. Number one, I was a leader of this team.
Number two, I hit eight hundred every single year. Number three,
I won four titles in seven years. Okay, just sweet sweet,
believe that any of these deads I have so many.
Steve Ja Sagers are a resident stap guy I got.
He's shaking his head, going there's no chance. And how
I got people that could call you, that can confirm that,
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that can confirm that easily. That's a that's a team
that James Worthy played a couple of games for us on.
When he was playing, it was awesome. He can barely move,
we have no he didn't need to. He would hit
the ball and would take like three steps from to
get to first base. It was like, wow, that's fast.
Oh my goodness. Look at Worthy get around. They don't
call him big game for nothing, dude. I'll the first
time I said, he had this big corkscrew stance where
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he would look you know, he's you know, he's six ten,
but he looked like he was like five. I know
who James Worthy. And he hits this line drives. He
hits a line drive over the first baseman's head and
it's going kind of into the corner and it's one
of those where that said double, and really it takes
him like the I'm watching it. We're all watching him
around the bases like I'm watching God right now, because
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it's taking him three steps, he said, first base, three
steps at second base. He had a home run. I
think he took about twelve steps around the bases. They
barely got the ball back to the info. I was
like wow, and I said, dude, you could have been
a baseball starting as well. The problems have to hit
the ball every time. I said, oh okay, got it,
got it, got it, gotta go. Did he light a
cigar as he rounded home? No? No, no, no he
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was not. But watching him run the base in a
big clop, dude, it was no, it was it was
just out. I can still see it. I can still
see those strides like I need like eight strides of
my little tiny feet to be able to get that
because I run like I got I got Yeah, I
got short legs. I had a long torso and short legs.
I run like one of those little dogs. And I'm like,
oh man, but listen, so now you know how good
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I played in the team. But secondly, so here's what happened.
We were playing a game and it was right near
the end of the regular season, and my mom was
actually at the game. So I felt bad that this
happened in front of my mom. But then again, my mom,
you know, she still loved me, so done she knew
what she was. So you called somebody a meathead in
front of your mom. Yeah, Well, here's the thing is,
we were playing, and we know we were beating him
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pretty bad, and we were coming up to bat, like
in the top of the seventh inning. We were beating
him like fifteen to three something like that, and this
one guy on the other team who was a meathead,
and I called him because he was just kept talking
the whole game, was upset that we were we were
losing all this stuff, blah blah blah, and we're getting
ready to hit in the seventh inning and he finally
he just says, he goes, yeah, he goes, be you guys,
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and he says something to the effect of the effect
of yeah, you guys, just you guys, just wait. Yeah
you're you went in tonight, but you just wait until
the playoffs. And the way the playoffs worked was the
top team played the team in last place and the
second place team, and you had like like an NCA
tournament type things. That's how it went plentyoffs. So I
I said, do you think you're gonna make it far
enough to play offs? In the playoffs? And he and
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he goes and all of a sudden, like I don't
know if he didn't hear it, or the guys on
this on the team to hear. They go, everybody makes
the playoffs. You don't know. You don't even know the league.
What are you talking about. I'm like, at this point,
I've been in the league for like three or four years.
I knew it was going on. And they're going, No,
you don't know, you don't know what you're talking Everybody
makes the playoffs. And I said, listen, meathead, I know
everybody makes him but you're not gonna make it long
enough to playoffs, you know, lose in your first game.
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And he said what you say? And he comes out
of the dugouts walking over to me, and I'm going, okay,
I'm gonna have to fight this guy in front of
my mom. But he's a little bit shorter than I am.
He's a little bit more muscular. What's gonna happen here?
I have a bat in my hand, so maybe this
can help. Because I'm on the on deck circle and
he comes over. He comes over, ready to take him down.
The thing is, he comes over and he kind of
starts walking slow, like I don't really want to fight.
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Like I could tell when he started walking over, like, oh,
he he wants to fight, and then he starts slowing
down like okay, you want people getting in the middle.
And then people got in the middle. It didn't happen.
Everything got everything. Cooler heads prevailed. But I could see
the look in his eye when I called him a
meathead that he was just really I could have said
you jerk. I could have said you dirt bag. You know,
I could have said any anyone, any any one of
innocuous things, because I knew I didn't want to say anything. Really.
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I didn't want to curse in front of my mom
because that would have been really So I called him.
So I called him a meat head, and he's like
Archie Bunker you meeted and so as I got and
as a meat head, and he just got really mad
about that and said, okay, well, that was a big
trigger word for him. I called him a meat head.
He wanted to come and fight me. So I get it,
I get I get that that happens. I get this.
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It doesn't always need to be a big time. It
doesn't need to be something racial, doesn't me be something
that is that is is a curse word. It doesn't matter.
You say the wrong word the wrong time, and and
someone just a flip, just switches and saying you don't
call him. You don't get to call me that and
get away with it like that's a word where a
five walk away from you, people go, oh, that guy
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got the best of you. I understand that there are
words like that that happened, So I get them. When
Anderson called Gobert the B word, that was Gobert saying okay,
for whatever, this this is what triggered me, and he
throws a punch at him. So I'm not saying I
don't condone it, but I understand that there are words
like that that happen, and you can't control your emotions
sometimes and especially look, you don't know what kind of
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relationship these guys have, and not that you have to
get it being a great relationship with everybody you play
sports with. But for most of us, we play sports
in high school, we play rec league sports. So you
play sports with wherever you play. You play softball, you
play basketball. Yeah, you don't have to be best friends
with everybody you play with. But even the person you're
not best friends with, you don't have to live with
them twenty four to seven. Right, you have to live.
But that's what happens in professional sports. You live with
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these guys twenty four to seven. If you don't get
along with somebody, okay, you don't have any time away
from it because you're on the same playing with them.
You're at practice all the time, you're at meals all
the time, and they're saying things that are provoking you
or not making you feel like I really don't like
this guy. When you have to live with somebody twenty
four to seven for months at a time, yeah, things
get that way. You know. It's why you're getting fights
with your roommates at college. And you don't get in
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fight so many of your best friends in school because
you have time away from each other. But when you're
your roommate, you your roommate don't get along in college
if you see each other all the time, and there's
that that just builds up inside you. Yeah, I see
where things like this happen. I completely understand how something
like Gobert went on pretty easy to boil over. Like
I said, like lots of little things over the course
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of a season and finally get towards the end and
it takes one word, one little interaction. In this case,
did he did he get the magic word? I guess
that's enough to get it going. Go through the history
of where guys acted out on these versus you, you
turn the other cheek and move forward, so you know
you have that selective outrage as the Chris Rocks special
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was was all about. But it's certainly for you. You
found where it was. I think he probably thought better.
This guy's been saying he's still holding a bat as
opposed to throwing it down and getting ready to fight.
You still had the posture of you you were looking
to uh, well, you were gonna go off his space
like it was a fax machine that it vexed you
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for all that time. But what's the same What are
they playing when it was it's damn it feels good
to be a gangster? Is that the song you play
when he's beating the crap out of the face. I like,
they pull him away and he goes back. No, he wants,
he wants. He dives and punches at it. Yeah. Yeah,
bare knuckle brawling on the Fax machine.