April 25, 2023 • 36 mins
It has finally happened. Aaron Rodgers is a New York Jet and it may be the greatest day of Jason Smith's life. Steve DeSaegher, in for Mike Harmon, tries to talk some sense into Jason, but he isn't having any of it. Audacy NFL Insider Jason La Canfora joins the guys to completely trash all over the Jets for bringing in Rodgers. Plus, Jimmy Butler is proving the reward that can come with sticking by superstars through the bumpy times.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Greetings and welcome inside. Aaron Rodgers Day, Happy Aaron Rodgers Day.
It's here, It's happened. I told you to be cool.
I told everybody be cool, just be like a bunch
of little fonsies. And what's phonsie cool? Correct? A Mundo
(00:50):
and Aaron Rodgers to the Jets was going to happen.
And it's happened, and it's here, and it's glorious and
it's outstanding, and nothing else matters, not the NHL playoffs,
not the non Knicks playoff games, not Major League Baseball
tonight because the Mets are off. None of these things matter.
(01:10):
The Jets get Aaron Rodgers, Jason Smith and Steve Desager,
who will be with you, and basically we're going to
commandeer these airwaves. For the next four days straight. We're
gonna block ourselves in. This is going to be it.
No one else gets in, and we talk about Aaron
Rodgers from now all the way until the draft, Yes,
(01:33):
all the way until Yes.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
I am so glad I've you a co host tonight
because this show is going to need some major league balance.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
There's no balance, There is no balance. We don't need
balance in the for tonight. We don't need that. We
just need Aaron Rodgers and the Jets and the super Bowl.
That's all we need. Rogers, Jets.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
No leap on that last part of the sentence, whatsoe The.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Leap was getting Aaron Rodgers. Now we're a super Bowl team.
That was the leap.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Ye leap of course, played like a super Bowl quarterback
we got.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
You know, if we had had Aaron r I'll say
this again, if we had had just Aaron Rodgers of
last year, last year, we'd be in the super Bowl
or eight and nine. No, no, no, super Bowl. We
already seven and ten. He wasn't gonna and the Packers
were eight and nine. Zach Wilson threw six touchdowns. Steve
has six touchdowns. Aaron rodgerster twenty five. That's nineteen more.
I could do bath really well, it's Aaron Rodgers Day.
(02:23):
The only sad party is no more Aaron Rodgers eve.
I was looking forward to a week of Aaron Rodgers eves.
But it doesn't matter, because Aaron Rodgers Day is here.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Well, let my first official sentence be our long national
nightmare is over. We've had forty days of no story.
I was as sick of this as most of the
rest of the country as we were of the Dak
Prescott story that wasn't for so long. Fine, it happened.
Most of us thought it would happen. Great, congratulations. When
do the game start? Until then, I don't care.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
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should be told. He's gonna happen, Steve, now here we
(03:13):
are and I will always remember.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Actually, Aaron Rodgers told us it was gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Well, yeah, but when it was official. See, I wasn't
one of those people that I wasn't watching ESPN when
Adam Schefterer got the story, and then everybody on the
show had to pretend like they were fake excited and
trying to figure out what their big hot take was
going to be. I was sitting down to lunch at
Urban Plates, and I had my dog's leash and my
dog were sitting there, and all of a sudden, my
phone just went I'm like oh, I'm like, oh, oh
(03:41):
my god, it's happening. I didn't look at my phone
for like ten seconds because it was just going. I go,
it's happening. This is it. I knew it when I
opened my phone, I knew what. I turned it over
and I woke up my phone. Aaron Rodgers is going
to be a jet because I knew that was gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
It was Joe Douglas.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
I knew it. No, it was all my friend said.
I always there's no certain stories. I know when my
phone just starts goes this is I go, Okay, something
big has happened to one of my teams, and I
just knew middle of the day. I'm like, okay, wait,
the Mets aren't playing. They flew back from it, and
they flew back from the West Coast. Okay, the Knicks
are fine. Either Julius Randall has decided he's walking away
from the Necks because he's mad he got bench yesterday,
(04:19):
or the Jets got Aaron Rodgers. And I was pretty
sure there was Jets getting Aaron Rodgers, because that was
what was going to spark that reaction of that big
And I picked up my phone and it was glorious.
And my friend Andy's air was the first one I
saw it. Just said congratulations, and I knew it. And
I put my phone down and I yelled out to
my wife, who was already food. I go, we got him,
we got him, We got him. And everybody around me
(04:42):
is like, what the hell are you talking about it?
We got him? And she was like, oh, cause she
knew right away Jets got Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
She has it.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
We got him, We got him, we got him, we
got him, We got him. I was so excited. My
dog was like, my owner is a lunatic.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
But I'm only knew already knew that already, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Benny, I'm spray painting you green. I know you're a
white dog with a little black pedah. Just no healthy,
healthy spray paint. They make that now. I think healthy
spray pay the healthy spray paint. I'm pretty sure for dogs.
Don't they the look that up. I'm pretty sure they
have that healthy spray paint for dogs?
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Yeah, health Okay, No, I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
We're getting all the primetime games every single that redoing
the schedule. The Jets will now play every Sunday night, well,
Monday night and Thursday night.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Can I tell you the Jets this year going to
be hosting Philadelphia, Kansas City and the Chargers. Can we
just in Penn put those down in primetime already?
Speaker 1 (05:36):
All gonna be primetime every game, Steve, we're gonna play
three games a week. We're playing Sunday, Wednesday, and Thursday.
We're gonna play forty eight games.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
You could play three games a week and they still
won't win double digits.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Oh, you you want you want to have a fight
in the studio, Iper, is it here tonight? You want
to have as studio?
Speaker 3 (05:53):
That's the kind of thing he would have said. So
in honor of our golden headphones, producer. No, no, that's
the line he would have said.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
No.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
And that's why I'm a stop right because now, because
here's the thing, this is this is my great moment
of glory and triumph that has been years.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
You need to know.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
This is my big ye Okay, I'm not saying I
disagree with you. Okay, you're right about that, but this
is my night, right, this is my night. Absolutely, who
takes tonight off, Harmon, Frostburg and Tyshirt. They're all dead
to me. They're dead to me now my big night.
It's like, no, no, I can't. It's like I invite
them to a big party. They all come with the
(06:27):
reason at the end, I really don't want to go
because you wouldn't tell them what night the party would be. Essentially,
they're dead to me that this was gonna happen today.
They're all dead to me.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Want them all to drop their plans. Notice they're all.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Yes, they're all done. This is this is that night.
I mean, come on, the Mets win almost every night.
I mean, come on, the Knicks are great. We can say,
but I mean this and this, Yeah, you change your plans,
you whatever. You all three of them took tonight off right,
all and tonight all took tonight. No, they're all dead
to me. Now we got new we're to put new
advertisements out for hosts. That that's what it is and.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Producer, producer, word, operator and co.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
So Steve, let me give your interview right now. Hey,
would you call him sick on the day the Jets
got Aaron Rodgers? Uh, No, you're hired. Okay, congratulations, you're in. Congratulations.
By the way, all said this, they're all literally.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
The last night you are doing this show from that
studio room.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
You know. And that's a that's another thing that is Uh.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
You're ending on a high note.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Yes, this is this studio that we've been in here
at Fox Sports Radio. Are your whole career now? I
was here from the very beginning, from day one here
at Fox Sports Radio. Then I left and I went
to ESPN and there was an NFL network and I
and I've been back here now for you know, nine years.
The very first show we did from this studio that
we've been in now for the last twenty two years.
(07:43):
This has been our home. This has been our studio.
The last show is all about the Jets. This is
how it's supposed to happen. This is how it codes.
I closed this. I have a big speech. This is closed.
The studio is closed. Fox Sports Radio Studio is close.
The Jets got Aaron Rodgers. It's closed. We don't need
anything else anymore. It's done. I mean, we have the
(08:05):
new shows from the new studios tomorrow. They're down the hall,
but this studio is closed. We're closing the studios with
Jets and Aaron Rodgers to night's all done. You got
to make up.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
A sign and literally tape it up as you leave
after the show tonight.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
I'm not kidding.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
That's because I mean, who actually Dan Patrick doesn't do
his show from in that room? Nope, So who's actually
Ben Mall or maybe in.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Aca No No, I don't, I don't know. Maybe maybe
it doesn't matter. I'm closing the studio. Guys, everybody stay home.
Closing the studio tonight. This was it, This is it,
This is it. This is the studio closes with the
Jets getting Aaron Rodgers. It's over. It's over. That's it.
Moving to our new studios. No way to go, it's over.
It's out.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Meanwhile, back in the real world.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
No, no, no, there's no there's nothing else that matters.
There is nothing else matters. It's it. Jets, Aaron Rodgs.
That's it, Jets, Aaron Rodgers, Jets, Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Jimmy Butler has just scored fifty six points. It's the
final at Miami. The Heat beat Milwaukee one nineteen one fourteen.
The Milwaukee Bucks are down three games to one in
their first round series. Still a few minutes till Memphis
at Lakers tip.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
I'm sorry, did he get traded to the Jets too?
Or did the Knicks get Yannis? That's the only that's
the only thing that did Jimmy Butler just get traded
to the Knicks?
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Or can you work an expiring contract in there and
it doesn't trade That would be a little.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Odd, doesn't matter. I think you can. Whatever it is, is.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
There a veterans minimum. We have to work out.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Whatever it is the minimum is. You just mentioned Jimmy
Buckets in his fifty six points.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
That whole fifth and sixth round draft pick exchange that
we got from the trade with Rogers, that that probably
wouldn't exist in the NBA.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
I'm guessing no, no, they wouldn't. It wouldn't have fifth
that No, they wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Have to like having him second round.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
No, no, no, no, we'd rather just cut it after
after like two thirds of one round. We're kind of
done with that.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
The players Union has said we'd prefer there's no draft
at all, just let everybody come into the league and
sign with whomever.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Now you want to talk bad and this is a
big thing to bring up here the Jason Smith Stosh
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dot com. Slash match. Yes, Jimmy Buckets fifty six points
tonight the Heat in a game in which the Bucks
(10:13):
got Giannis back. Jannis had a good night twenty six
and thirteen and ten out of triple double, but not
the fifty six er of Jimmy Buckets. And now the
Heat are up three games to one over the team
everybody thought was headed to the finals. So if you
want to talk about basketball, I will tell you this.
I am not afraid of anybody. Now I have on
(10:34):
the Knicks. I am not afraid of anyone. Gimme, gimme
the Cavaliers, gimme the heat. Give me if the Bucks
are going out like this, give me the Sixers, because
I know they're gonna blow it eventually. I am not
afraid of anybody. Steve Sager, this is this may be
the greatest sports night of my life. The Knicks have
a path to the NBA Finals, the Jets get Aaron Rodgers,
(10:54):
and the Mets are off. They can't lose. This may
be the greatest sports night of my life.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
I'm kind of waiting you reference Philadelphia there. The Phillies
made the World Series and lost. The Eagles made the
Super Bowl and lost. The seventy six ers standing by,
are they gonna win the East this year? I can
make the Eastern Conference, Milwaukee maybe ahead of them. They
make the Eastern Conference Finals and they lose to the
next that's not Let's get back to real realism. The
(11:21):
Boston Celtics can lunch their first rounder tomorrow against Atlanta,
so there is still Boston in the East. You're telling
me that a Knicks fan has no fear of a
Boston team that's genuinely better than New York.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
No, No, last two times we beat him. We beat
him twice, we meet him when they were the most
most recent iteration of the Celtics, which basically has become, hey,
we are really only Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum driven.
So I am not in the past week, I am
not afraid of anybody.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
I know.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
What's really not been true in the past week is
the Miami Heat. They weren't this team the whole regular season,
the team that we're seeing now leading Milwaukee three games
to one. They didn't shoot threes like this during the
regular season. They didn't score points like this during the
regular season. They scored about one hundred and twenty again
tonight in this series. That didn't happen regular season. So
I don't know who this team is. But they shot
(12:10):
forty percent from the three point line again tonight, and
they deserve to be ahead. But they earned the eight
seed this year and suddenly their one game away from
pulling off a huge upset.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Well, let me give you a hot take. Right last year,
we said, hey, maybe Joe Girardi was the problem in Philadelphia.
They fired him, he went to the World Series. Maybe
it wasn't Russell Westbrook with the Lakers, and it was
acause Westbrooksman playing pretty well. Maybe Tyler Hero was the
problem in Miami. I mean maybe maybe I look at
where they are without about as good as he is
(12:43):
an no heiro what is going? Maybe he was the problem.
That could be what it is. But look, you had
fifty six from Butler, you had twenty and ten from
Ronnie Cyclee, you had a big night from the heat tonight.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
This was outstandingly bam adebio can contribute and a mirror
quiet fifteen was good enough because they beat the Bucks
by five. I can assume, or maybe I should put
that in question for him, Jason Smith, Can I assume
not having Tyler Hero is gonna cost them shortly in
this postseason?
Speaker 1 (13:13):
It will cost it if they play the Knicks, and
will it costs you when you play the Knicks no
matter what. Again, I'm not afraid of any.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Because you're assuming that the real Julius Randall is gonna
show up. Even if we're back to back game we
can win without.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Look look at how well we played without him when
he was doing nothing. When he's still coming back from
his ankle injury or being upset that he's benching so
you're playing a thing with.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
Zero experience, right, Okay, it doesn't matter, not gonna be
that way they were supposed to be.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
There was so good and we're gonna win it. A
Donovan Mitchell, are you oh the Knicks? And no, no, no, no,
And look, why are you taking me away from Aaron
Rodgers for the last three and a half minutes, we're
away from Aaron Rodgers calling.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Somebody just scored fifty six in a playoff game and
they're upsetting the number one seed.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Is he Aaron Rodgers? No? Yeah, no, yeah, Actually you
don't you want it? You want a pretty funny story.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Well, you're just gonna tell the listeners to leave the
next few I don't wish.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
To do that when we when I was as a
production assistant at ESPN, and the sports center used to
be a half hour. It was so difficult on big
heavy nights to get all the highlights and you wanted
to get in it was an hour, Yeah, it was.
Sports used to be a half hour, used to be
eleven thirty. Then they made it an hour and everything
was fine. But when in the in the mid nineties,
a lot of sports centers were only a half hour
which doesn't make any sense. Stupid. So there was a
(14:23):
producer's name was Tim Kylee who you hear his name
now and again because he was a producer for Inside
the NBA for so long in Atlanta. One of the
greatest guys, one of the greatest guys in the world.
Tim Kyleie, great dude. He he would he was a producer.
He would produce these shows. And he would always say
to somebody like, all right, like the rundown was, I
have I have no room for anything else. I don't
know for anything else. And then someone would come upstairs
(14:44):
and say, hey, did you just see what just happened
in the in the Sharks and you know whatever, and
and he would say the same. He would say, did
somebody die? Well no, did somebody quit?
Speaker 4 (14:54):
No?
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Then I have no room for it. Hey, did you
see what Joe Mont? Did he die?
Speaker 4 (15:01):
No?
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Did he quit?
Speaker 2 (15:02):
No?
Speaker 1 (15:02):
And we have no room for it. We have no room.
We have no room. So from that, we have no room.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
You take a literal four hour show and say, okay,
something that's really not news anymore. Yeah, we have no
room for anything else.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
No, well, don't for you. We also have to debate
if the Lakers are back, because that's going to be
a show long debate now or the Lakers Nakers are.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Already down ten to four?
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Is the night over? Are they back? Are they not?
There's a lot to get to. We do have a
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But yes, we have a big night in sports. We
(16:30):
have a big night going on in the NBA playoffs.
Lakers and Memphis now a one point game.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
God's ten to nine. The Lakers are back, jim once again,
prosperg is not here, Lakers are pack Jason Smith.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Jimmy, all these they're all dead to me. They're all
dead to me. All those guys are all dead to me.
It doesn't matter. They're all dead to me. But coming
up next, So what does this mean? What is next?
What are the other big dominoes to fall? Now that
Rogers is a Jet? Keep right here. That's coming up next.
This is Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
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Speaker 1 (17:06):
The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon,
who is no longer my best friend because he's not
in tonight. From my moment of glory, my moment of Trump.
Steve Desager in for harmon tonight. At the end of
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dot com slash match. Well, Steve O, you said you, hey,
(17:29):
you know Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers. Okay, you're gonna want
the other side of the Aaron Rodgers trade and someone
who doesn't like the Jets giving up what they gave up. Well,
joining us now on the hotline to break it all down.
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Check him out on Odyssey The Washington Post. Jay, what's happening, buddy?
(17:52):
How are you?
Speaker 4 (17:53):
What's going on? Well? I'm glad at least the green
half of this tandem is here tonight to celebrate this day.
That you will be ruined, that you will be hated,
that you will be considering one of the lowest moments
in franchise history. I'm want to say about I don't
(18:13):
know what's May June, July, August, September, October November. I'm
going to say within seven months, seven and a half months.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
No wait, wait minute.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
What the f did we do? No?
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Wait wait wait, let's just do you even think we
that the Jets? I say we because you know I
helped make this happen. Can can we get the Aaron
Rodgers of last year?
Speaker 4 (18:39):
Do you like the Aaron Rodgers last year?
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Well questions?
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Yes, exactly.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Aaron Rodgers last year was dogs.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
The guy can say you probably can't but say, s
h I t e. Okay, I'll throw the E on
there for our friends at the UK. Okay, didn't you
like that guy?
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Hey?
Speaker 4 (19:00):
That guy when they were making their playoff push in
the last six weeks of the season. That guy was
a worse statistical quarterback than Baker Mayfield, who was just
figuring out the Rams playbook on the fly. That guy,
by QB rating was worse than Desmond Ritter.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Jay like Jay, you know who we had last year
playing quarterback? You know that our started quarterbacks six touchdowns
last year.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
The reason that the Packers got off the net wasn't
because Aaron Rodgers got good down the stretch. He was
still crappy. He wasn't pushing the ball downfield. He wasn't
making big plays. They got decent in a much crappier conference,
by the way, with no quarterbacks opposing him to speak of.
(19:48):
They got better because the return game got freaking dieky
good because they changed their defense on the fly, and
it got much better because they ran the damn ball
so that this guy only had to throw it underneath,
only had to dink and duncan. Like he doesn't want
to throw interceptions because it doesn't look good on the
back of his card, you know, his football card. But
(20:11):
he's still threw a bunch of them, and he'll blame
anybody else for him other than himself. And he does
not like playing with young players. Like he's made it
pretty clear he's been throwing people under the bus over
the bus, like I guess if you say it out loud,
it's not even really under the bus, right, Like he's
just been like not happy about his cast forever. And
(20:33):
this looks on paper like a good cast, but it's
a young cast, and they're going to make mistakes. They're
going to make mental mistakes, they're going to make physical mistakes,
and he's not going to bite his tongue. And the
offensive line sucks. Like, I mean, if you think Dwayne Brown,
whatever's left of him and whatever you know, Mackai Beckdon
(20:54):
might be like, if you think that's good enough to
buttress this guy who just doesn't want to get hit anymore,
but collect the full sixty million dollars, you know, pass
go you know, do not go to jail card. Just
get that sixty million by any means necessary. No, I'm
not even being facetious. I think it's going to be
(21:15):
an abject failure. He doesn't want anything to do with
New York. He doesn't want anything to do with the
New York media. He wants nothing to do with Sorry
the Loser asks franchise that the New York Jets are.
He's there because the convenience. They're the only ones who
would pay the freight. Like, there's no way that this
makes sense. It only makes sense as an arranged marriage,
(21:36):
and one in which Woody Johnson prevented the football people
from actually making a strong football play like they were
over a barrel for no good reason. Just five different
things they could have done to have real leverage to
get this guy for what he's worth in a sixty
million dollars salary dump because it's a salary dump, not
(21:57):
a football trade, and they made a football trade for
a guy who the rest of the league would be like,
that's a salary dump, Like you want me to take
that salary on, I'll give you a five, Like I'll
give you a five that can move to four if
we win anything with them. And they went out and
paid far close to full value for the former MVP
(22:17):
guy from two years ago who you're never going to
see again.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Wow, can we run that last five minutes on a
loop for the rest of the show. That was sensational?
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Hey said? He said, so, I okay, So now I
know there's one extra space in my super Bowl party
in Vegas because Jason lock and four is off the
list right now, you are off the Jet super Bowl
party list in Las Vegas.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
Now with that, that's fine. You know what, send Eisen
in my stead, except he ain't gonna be there either,
because if there's a nine and eight, like if there's
some sort of big ass like parade, carnival, freak show
for finishing nine and eight, then sign me up for it,
because that's what you're going to be.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
What are the positives from this deal, like not counting
fully against the cap or not having to give up
a first rounder. There must be something good too.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
What do you mean, unless your offensive line gets killed,
he's probably still gonna play sixty five percent. I don't
think he's gonna play seventy five percent. Who probably end
up playing just enough to make you give up the
one next You will have nothing to show for it
because you're nine to eight and you're the like fourth
wildcard team, and you're gonna somebody's gonna curb stomp you
in the first round.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
You realized my entire forties that Jets didn't make the playoffs,
So getting curb stomped in a wildcard game, that's a
win for me. I mean, that's that's a big win.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
That's a big win Morgan's future draft picks. And here's
where you're really gonna get punched in a cajones. This
is the perfect year to actually tank, but you're obviously not.
This guy will be better than you had no quarterbacks
last year, and he's not a good quarterback anymore, but
he's a serviceable I guess like he's still going to
make sixty million dollars. I mean, he ain't gonna be
(23:51):
worth that, but he can play in the league. I guess.
So you'll mess around with that defense and win too
many games to actually be in position to have one
like follow you next year. Yeah, games from a draft
capitol standpoint to not be able to pay the freight
that it's going to take to get to the top
(24:13):
four next year. Between the teams that finish really, really low,
like the Texans who are just gonna, you know, be
conscientious objectors to the quarterback position again in this draft
because they really want Caleb Williams next year. Like, between
the teams that do that and the teams that overdraft
quarterbacks this year and still need one next year and say,
screw it, we're going to do that, or the teams
that are able to have the draft capital to move
(24:35):
up to get into the top four, Like you're going
to be in none of those bins. Like you're going
to be less than to all of them, and you'll
be catching table scraps at the quarterback like you'll find
your next Hackenberg, you know whatever, in the second or
third round next year.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Like, but that's what happens, Jay, when you pick thirty second,
that's what happens. You want to know.
Speaker 4 (24:55):
It's not gonna become that it's going to be you're
picking eighteen and you don't have or fourteen sixteen and
you don't have what it takes to get to the
top four in what's going to be a truly, truly,
truly generational quarterback trap next year.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
So let's just pretend that Jeff's fans are over reacting
a bit to this news. Let's just for the sake
of argument, say that is there any way Jason Locking
for that you would say this would be a proper
acquisition for any team, getting Aaron Rodgers and not giving
up a first rounder.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
And he's to think there was only one team that
wanted Yeah, Like, that's that's not even an opinion, that's
not debatable. That's not like everybody knew. I wrote about
the Washington Post hell a month before the season was over,
that Green Bay was done with them. They had Aaron
(25:53):
Rodgers fatigue. He hated them, They hated him, and it
was over and they were going to salary dump him
to anybody who would take take him off their hands.
And I had gms and pro personnel directors and assistant
GM's all saying the same thing, like it's a fourth
or fifth round salary dump. Like that was the reality
(26:13):
of the situation with where the player was at this
stage of his career and where the market was, and
you had all these teams saying, Oh, I'd rather take
Jimmy g for this, or I'd rather take Derek Carr
for that, or I'd rather sit the whole damn thing
out and take Will Levis fourth overall, right, or I'll
wait to see what kind of tag they put on Lamar.
But then we're a ratte want anyway. So, like all
(26:36):
that went down, and there was one team still standing
four days before the draft, and it was the only
team that wanted to visit with him, right, it was
the only team that wanted to be granted permission to
talk to him before the non campering period or whatever. Like, No,
I can't never make it make sense. No, it's coming
(26:59):
from wood. He what is what he ever gotten? Right?
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Well, you picked me right up here, Jay, this entire
last few minutes right there. You really helped me out there.
Thanks a lot, buddy, I appreciate that. That's great.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
You know me, I call him like I said, I
can't even.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Tell you the Orioles are bad and yell at you
for the Orioles. I can't even do that.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
He's gonna play one year, You're gonna win. He's gonna win,
just you enough games to f you in next year's draft.
And then he's he's gonna be off whatever, hiking the
freaking Rockies, like taking what is it, hyaanuska, hyahuasca, hyawuska, whatever,
(27:38):
It's gonna be him and like a Yeti and Kung
Fu walk in the earth with wood. He's with sixty
million dollars of wood. He's money in his back packet.
You'll never see him again, live in a yurt somewhere
and Montana smoking. God knows what he'll be. His pockets
(28:00):
will be straight though.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
You can follow on Twitter at Jason lock And for
that is at Jason lock And fora Odyssey Washington Post
NFL insider who was just a little bit cautious about
the Jets making this trade forever. Jay is always, buddy.
When I say appreciate it usually mean it. But I'm
putting appreciated quotes. That's all right, buddy, that's right. We'll
talk to you after the drafts.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
That was spectacular.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
He's so so I think what he's trying to say
is hey, maybe a little bit, let let's tap the
brakes a tiny bit and maybe thanks saying maybe maybe
let's have a little bit of trepidaciousness about this trade.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
And he was also saying get prepared for the off
season phrase snatch the pebbles from my hands, because that's
what he's going to be concentrating to do. It's not
going to be any football focus whatsoever.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
See what I heard from Jason was, hey, there's a
couple of things. Doesn't mean it's not a great trade,
doesn't mean that Jets aren't going to win big, but
just a couple of things to be concerned about. That's
kind of what I heard. I'm Jason.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
Literally nobody else on the planet wanted him.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
I didn't hear that part. I didn't have that part.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
I'm not sure there were relatives that wanted him. I mean, no, no, no, like.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
It was bad. We're gonna we're gonna fix this for
our best of podcasts. I'm gonna use the artificial intelligence
Jason lock and for who loves the trade.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
This is not a salary and place it there that
you might have actually gotten two second rounders out of
this year and next year. I believe that's what I heard.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Yeah, listen, we'll we'll get to the salary, don't We'll
get to the salary part of this and this whole Oh,
the judge Scott Sleeps. Just stop it. We'll get to
that coming up.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Well, there is such a thing as dead cap money.
It's not like the Packers are free and clear. No, no,
the NFL.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Yeah.
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(30:50):
hear that. But yes, Jimmy Butler tonight an inhuman game
for the Heat that nobody thought they were going to
win because Jannis was coming back from Milwaukee and this
was going to be it. Yiannis had a triple double.
He was twenty six thirteen and ten Brook Lopez had
thirty six. I mean, come on, man, thirty two and
(31:13):
it didn't matter because Butler goes for fifty six tonight.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
About half the points Miami scorer yep.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
And they win it, overt Milwaukee one nineteen to one fourteen.
They now take a three games to one lead in
this series. We talked a few minutes ago about how, hey,
me being a Knicks fan, I'm not afraid of anybody. Now, hey,
I'm not afraid of the heat and not a fraan.
The Bucks could go out here. They're one game win.
They were the best team all over the course of
the year, they'd been the best team. Yeah, no, I'm
(31:41):
not scared of anybody. But for Jimmy Butler for a second, right,
for a game like this that when the playoffs begin,
Butler always seems to be at his best. And this
is a guy who was, you know, into his near
mid thirties at this point, and he's still putting up
fifty six points in a game like this. He has
had a career that has just been tremendous and it's
(32:02):
always been one of those boy, Jimmy Butler's pretty good boy,
And then I'll give you something that just makes you
go Wow. Butler should have been bigger, and he should
have been a bigger star, and he should have wound
up being someone that had a better career arc But
he's someone who played the first few years in Chicago,
then he went to Minnesota, went to Philadelphia. Now he's
(32:22):
found his home in Miami the past four years.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
And twenty points a game.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Yeah, he's twenty points again. There's lots of guys scored
twenty points a game, right, but why Butler's a guy
elevates his game, all of these all of these things.
But why is Butler not bigger?
Speaker 4 (32:35):
Why?
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Why? Why do we tell it's almost like Jimmy Butler
is Damian Lillard East right, like, boy, look at these games,
but when once in a great great great while his
team has a big playoff run, But Butler should be
bigger and and why didn't it work out for him
at the other stops. So much of the NBA nowadays,
Steve is being able to manage big stars because they're
(32:57):
gonna make the ride bumpy along the way. That's that's
the way it is now. Right, you had a handful
of stars, and okay, maybe a couple of these guys
are difficult to manage over the course of their NBA careers.
But now twenty twenty three, there's guys everywhere that make
it really difficult and make the ride bumpy.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
I'm not kidding. Or when you started the sentence, I
thought you were talking about Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Aaron Rodgers. But listen, the ride for the Lakers with
Lebron and Anthony Davis has been very bumpy, right. We've
seen that the ride for Joel and beating the Sixers,
it's been bumpy. Most teams, for the Kawhi Leonard and
the Clippers, it's been bumpy. Big superstars come with big
time problems and issues that need to be managed, and
(33:39):
it happens that way. Look for Donovan Mitchell, the ride
was really bumpy in Utah. That's why he's not on
the Utah Jazz anymore. You see it everywhere you go.
The ride with these superstars gets that way. And because
we have spent so much time about the Warriors that
are very unselfish and Stephan Clay, you think, okay, no, no.
But elsewhere in the NBA it exists in a large way,
(34:00):
and Jimmy Butler is that guy. And Butler's someone who
will make that ride bumpy all the way through. He
played his way out of Chicago, and what happened in
Minnesota and in Philadelphia. They just couldn't figure out that
he if he was worth all the bumpiness. And I've
said bumping now so many times in the last couple
of minutes. I want bumpy cake.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
No, you're right, it's not a smooth ride. That's the
correct term.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
So now you have Minnesota that cut bade on him
after a couple of years. They didn't like how he
was dealing with the younger players. Is he really the
influence they need? He was trying to push Karl Anthony
Towns to try to get him to be better. No,
they didn't like that so much, so they traded him
to Philadelphia. Philadelphia, Yeah, we don't know if Jimmy Butler
is our guy. I don't know we should do. And
then he goes to Miami and it hasn't always been
smooth in Miami. Remember the you know a year ago
(34:44):
during the huddle when he wanted to fight Eric Spolstra.
And this is gonna be it for Jimmy Butler, right,
this is it for Butler. But I give the Heat
so much credit because they have figured out how to
handle Jimmy Butler, superstar and the guy that makes things thorny.
See if I was gonna say, but I said thorny,
And they figured out. And so much of that is
to If the Lakers have been able to figure out
(35:04):
Lebron James, things will be a lot different than they
were right now. But they've not been able to because
he's got too much of a foothold on the team
and they've just not been able to do it. But
that's the whole thing. How do you handle superstars knowing
it's gonna get bumpy, and knowing when to stay in
it and when to say, okay, now we have to
cut out, to cut bakes. You go back to Minnesota
and the seventy six ers. Now they would say, oh,
one hundred percent, give us Jimmy Butler back. We didn't
(35:27):
know how to handle him. We can handle him now.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
You referenced playoff Jimmy Butler. Everyone needs to remember how
incredible he was in the NBA Finals in twenty twenty
against the Lakers. I know it was the bubble and
there was no fans in the building and all of that,
and you know it wasn't a June Finals, and maybe
all of that plays into it. He was phenomenal, like
to the point of exhaustion, phenomenal. I looked it up
(35:51):
for the series. This is the Finals. Twenty six points,
eight rebounds, ten assists, sensational. He's thirty points a game
in this.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Series fifty six tonight, thirty points a game here, one
game away from knocking out the Milwaukee Bucks. Yeah, give
the heat. Heat figured it out. Give them a lot
of credit for it. We got more on Jimmy Buckets.
We got more on the Jets and Aaron Rodgers. Are
the Lakers really back? Yeah? A full service night here
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Greetings and welcome inside. Aaron Rodgers Day, Happy Aaron Rodgers Day.
It's here, It's happened. I told you to be cool.
I told everybody be cool, just be like a bunch
of little fonsies. And what's phonsie cool? Correct? A Mundo
(00:50):
and Aaron Rodgers to the Jets was going to happen.
And it's happened, and it's here, and it's glorious and
it's outstanding, and nothing else matters, not the NHL playoffs,
not the non Knicks playoff games, not Major League Baseball
tonight because the Mets are off. None of these things matter.
(01:10):
The Jets get Aaron Rodgers, Jason Smith and Steve Desager,
who will be with you, and basically we're going to
commandeer these airwaves. For the next four days straight. We're
gonna block ourselves in. This is going to be it.
No one else gets in, and we talk about Aaron
Rodgers from now all the way until the draft, Yes,
(01:33):
all the way until Yes.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
I am so glad I've you a co host tonight
because this show is going to need some major league balance.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
There's no balance, There is no balance. We don't need
balance in the for tonight. We don't need that. We
just need Aaron Rodgers and the Jets and the super Bowl.
That's all we need. Rogers, Jets.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
No leap on that last part of the sentence, whatsoe The.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Leap was getting Aaron Rodgers. Now we're a super Bowl team.
That was the leap.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Ye leap of course, played like a super Bowl quarterback
we got.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
You know, if we had had Aaron r I'll say
this again, if we had had just Aaron Rodgers of
last year, last year, we'd be in the super Bowl
or eight and nine. No, no, no, super Bowl. We
already seven and ten. He wasn't gonna and the Packers
were eight and nine. Zach Wilson threw six touchdowns. Steve
has six touchdowns. Aaron rodgerster twenty five. That's nineteen more.
I could do bath really well, it's Aaron Rodgers Day.
(02:23):
The only sad party is no more Aaron Rodgers eve.
I was looking forward to a week of Aaron Rodgers eves.
But it doesn't matter, because Aaron Rodgers Day is here.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Well, let my first official sentence be our long national
nightmare is over. We've had forty days of no story.
I was as sick of this as most of the
rest of the country as we were of the Dak
Prescott story that wasn't for so long. Fine, it happened.
Most of us thought it would happen. Great, congratulations. When
do the game start? Until then, I don't care.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
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should be told. He's gonna happen, Steve, now here we
(03:13):
are and I will always remember.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Actually, Aaron Rodgers told us it was gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Well, yeah, but when it was official. See, I wasn't
one of those people that I wasn't watching ESPN when
Adam Schefterer got the story, and then everybody on the
show had to pretend like they were fake excited and
trying to figure out what their big hot take was
going to be. I was sitting down to lunch at
Urban Plates, and I had my dog's leash and my
dog were sitting there, and all of a sudden, my
phone just went I'm like oh, I'm like, oh, oh
(03:41):
my god, it's happening. I didn't look at my phone
for like ten seconds because it was just going. I go,
it's happening. This is it. I knew it when I
opened my phone, I knew what. I turned it over
and I woke up my phone. Aaron Rodgers is going
to be a jet because I knew that was gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
It was Joe Douglas.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
I knew it. No, it was all my friend said.
I always there's no certain stories. I know when my
phone just starts goes this is I go, Okay, something
big has happened to one of my teams, and I
just knew middle of the day. I'm like, okay, wait,
the Mets aren't playing. They flew back from it, and
they flew back from the West Coast. Okay, the Knicks
are fine. Either Julius Randall has decided he's walking away
from the Necks because he's mad he got bench yesterday,
(04:19):
or the Jets got Aaron Rodgers. And I was pretty
sure there was Jets getting Aaron Rodgers, because that was
what was going to spark that reaction of that big
And I picked up my phone and it was glorious.
And my friend Andy's air was the first one I
saw it. Just said congratulations, and I knew it. And
I put my phone down and I yelled out to
my wife, who was already food. I go, we got him,
we got him, We got him. And everybody around me
(04:42):
is like, what the hell are you talking about it?
We got him? And she was like, oh, cause she
knew right away Jets got Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
She has it.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
We got him, We got him, we got him, we
got him, We got him. I was so excited. My
dog was like, my owner is a lunatic.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
But I'm only knew already knew that already, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Benny, I'm spray painting you green. I know you're a
white dog with a little black pedah. Just no healthy,
healthy spray paint. They make that now. I think healthy
spray pay the healthy spray paint. I'm pretty sure for dogs.
Don't they the look that up. I'm pretty sure they
have that healthy spray paint for dogs?
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Yeah, health Okay, No, I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
We're getting all the primetime games every single that redoing
the schedule. The Jets will now play every Sunday night, well,
Monday night and Thursday night.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Can I tell you the Jets this year going to
be hosting Philadelphia, Kansas City and the Chargers. Can we
just in Penn put those down in primetime already?
Speaker 1 (05:36):
All gonna be primetime every game, Steve, we're gonna play
three games a week. We're playing Sunday, Wednesday, and Thursday.
We're gonna play forty eight games.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
You could play three games a week and they still
won't win double digits.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Oh, you you want you want to have a fight
in the studio, Iper, is it here tonight? You want
to have as studio?
Speaker 3 (05:53):
That's the kind of thing he would have said. So
in honor of our golden headphones, producer. No, no, that's
the line he would have said.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
No.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
And that's why I'm a stop right because now, because
here's the thing, this is this is my great moment
of glory and triumph that has been years.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
You need to know.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
This is my big ye Okay, I'm not saying I
disagree with you. Okay, you're right about that, but this
is my night, right, this is my night. Absolutely, who
takes tonight off, Harmon, Frostburg and Tyshirt. They're all dead
to me. They're dead to me now my big night.
It's like, no, no, I can't. It's like I invite
them to a big party. They all come with the
(06:27):
reason at the end, I really don't want to go
because you wouldn't tell them what night the party would be. Essentially,
they're dead to me that this was gonna happen today.
They're all dead to me.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Want them all to drop their plans. Notice they're all.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Yes, they're all done. This is this is that night.
I mean, come on, the Mets win almost every night.
I mean, come on, the Knicks are great. We can say,
but I mean this and this, Yeah, you change your plans,
you whatever. You all three of them took tonight off right,
all and tonight all took tonight. No, they're all dead
to me. Now we got new we're to put new
advertisements out for hosts. That that's what it is and.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Producer, producer, word, operator and co.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
So Steve, let me give your interview right now. Hey,
would you call him sick on the day the Jets
got Aaron Rodgers? Uh, No, you're hired. Okay, congratulations, you're in. Congratulations.
By the way, all said this, they're all literally.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
The last night you are doing this show from that
studio room.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
You know. And that's a that's another thing that is Uh.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
You're ending on a high note.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Yes, this is this studio that we've been in here
at Fox Sports Radio. Are your whole career now? I
was here from the very beginning, from day one here
at Fox Sports Radio. Then I left and I went
to ESPN and there was an NFL network and I
and I've been back here now for you know, nine years.
The very first show we did from this studio that
we've been in now for the last twenty two years.
(07:43):
This has been our home. This has been our studio.
The last show is all about the Jets. This is
how it's supposed to happen. This is how it codes.
I closed this. I have a big speech. This is closed.
The studio is closed. Fox Sports Radio Studio is close.
The Jets got Aaron Rodgers. It's closed. We don't need
anything else anymore. It's done. I mean, we have the
(08:05):
new shows from the new studios tomorrow. They're down the hall,
but this studio is closed. We're closing the studios with
Jets and Aaron Rodgers to night's all done. You got
to make up.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
A sign and literally tape it up as you leave
after the show tonight.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
I'm not kidding.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
That's because I mean, who actually Dan Patrick doesn't do
his show from in that room? Nope, So who's actually
Ben Mall or maybe in.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Aca No No, I don't, I don't know. Maybe maybe
it doesn't matter. I'm closing the studio. Guys, everybody stay home.
Closing the studio tonight. This was it, This is it,
This is it. This is the studio closes with the
Jets getting Aaron Rodgers. It's over. It's over. That's it.
Moving to our new studios. No way to go, it's over.
It's out.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Meanwhile, back in the real world.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
No, no, no, there's no there's nothing else that matters.
There is nothing else matters. It's it. Jets, Aaron Rodgs.
That's it, Jets, Aaron Rodgers, Jets, Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Jimmy Butler has just scored fifty six points. It's the
final at Miami. The Heat beat Milwaukee one nineteen one fourteen.
The Milwaukee Bucks are down three games to one in
their first round series. Still a few minutes till Memphis
at Lakers tip.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
I'm sorry, did he get traded to the Jets too?
Or did the Knicks get Yannis? That's the only that's
the only thing that did Jimmy Butler just get traded
to the Knicks?
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Or can you work an expiring contract in there and
it doesn't trade That would be a little.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Odd, doesn't matter. I think you can. Whatever it is, is.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
There a veterans minimum. We have to work out.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Whatever it is the minimum is. You just mentioned Jimmy
Buckets in his fifty six points.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
That whole fifth and sixth round draft pick exchange that
we got from the trade with Rogers, that that probably
wouldn't exist in the NBA.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
I'm guessing no, no, they wouldn't. It wouldn't have fifth
that No, they wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Have to like having him second round.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
No, no, no, no, we'd rather just cut it after
after like two thirds of one round. We're kind of
done with that.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
The players Union has said we'd prefer there's no draft
at all, just let everybody come into the league and
sign with whomever.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Now you want to talk bad and this is a
big thing to bring up here the Jason Smith Stosh
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tonight the Heat in a game in which the Bucks
(10:13):
got Giannis back. Jannis had a good night twenty six
and thirteen and ten out of triple double, but not
the fifty six er of Jimmy Buckets. And now the
Heat are up three games to one over the team
everybody thought was headed to the finals. So if you
want to talk about basketball, I will tell you this.
I am not afraid of anybody. Now I have on
(10:34):
the Knicks. I am not afraid of anyone. Gimme, gimme
the Cavaliers, gimme the heat. Give me if the Bucks
are going out like this, give me the Sixers, because
I know they're gonna blow it eventually. I am not
afraid of anybody. Steve Sager, this is this may be
the greatest sports night of my life. The Knicks have
a path to the NBA Finals, the Jets get Aaron Rodgers,
(10:54):
and the Mets are off. They can't lose. This may
be the greatest sports night of my life.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
I'm kind of waiting you reference Philadelphia there. The Phillies
made the World Series and lost. The Eagles made the
Super Bowl and lost. The seventy six ers standing by,
are they gonna win the East this year? I can
make the Eastern Conference, Milwaukee maybe ahead of them. They
make the Eastern Conference Finals and they lose to the
next that's not Let's get back to real realism. The
(11:21):
Boston Celtics can lunch their first rounder tomorrow against Atlanta,
so there is still Boston in the East. You're telling
me that a Knicks fan has no fear of a
Boston team that's genuinely better than New York.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
No, No, last two times we beat him. We beat
him twice, we meet him when they were the most
most recent iteration of the Celtics, which basically has become, hey,
we are really only Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum driven.
So I am not in the past week, I am
not afraid of anybody.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
I know.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
What's really not been true in the past week is
the Miami Heat. They weren't this team the whole regular season,
the team that we're seeing now leading Milwaukee three games
to one. They didn't shoot threes like this during the
regular season. They didn't score points like this during the
regular season. They scored about one hundred and twenty again
tonight in this series. That didn't happen regular season. So
I don't know who this team is. But they shot
(12:10):
forty percent from the three point line again tonight, and
they deserve to be ahead. But they earned the eight
seed this year and suddenly their one game away from
pulling off a huge upset.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Well, let me give you a hot take. Right last year,
we said, hey, maybe Joe Girardi was the problem in Philadelphia.
They fired him, he went to the World Series. Maybe
it wasn't Russell Westbrook with the Lakers, and it was
acause Westbrooksman playing pretty well. Maybe Tyler Hero was the
problem in Miami. I mean maybe maybe I look at
where they are without about as good as he is
(12:43):
an no heiro what is going? Maybe he was the problem.
That could be what it is. But look, you had
fifty six from Butler, you had twenty and ten from
Ronnie Cyclee, you had a big night from the heat tonight.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
This was outstandingly bam adebio can contribute and a mirror
quiet fifteen was good enough because they beat the Bucks
by five. I can assume, or maybe I should put
that in question for him, Jason Smith, Can I assume
not having Tyler Hero is gonna cost them shortly in
this postseason?
Speaker 1 (13:13):
It will cost it if they play the Knicks, and
will it costs you when you play the Knicks no
matter what. Again, I'm not afraid of any.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Because you're assuming that the real Julius Randall is gonna
show up. Even if we're back to back game we
can win without.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Look look at how well we played without him when
he was doing nothing. When he's still coming back from
his ankle injury or being upset that he's benching so
you're playing a thing with.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
Zero experience, right, Okay, it doesn't matter, not gonna be
that way they were supposed to be.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
There was so good and we're gonna win it. A
Donovan Mitchell, are you oh the Knicks? And no, no, no, no,
And look, why are you taking me away from Aaron
Rodgers for the last three and a half minutes, we're
away from Aaron Rodgers calling.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Somebody just scored fifty six in a playoff game and
they're upsetting the number one seed.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Is he Aaron Rodgers? No? Yeah, no, yeah, Actually you
don't you want it? You want a pretty funny story.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Well, you're just gonna tell the listeners to leave the
next few I don't wish.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
To do that when we when I was as a
production assistant at ESPN, and the sports center used to
be a half hour. It was so difficult on big
heavy nights to get all the highlights and you wanted
to get in it was an hour, Yeah, it was.
Sports used to be a half hour, used to be
eleven thirty. Then they made it an hour and everything
was fine. But when in the in the mid nineties,
a lot of sports centers were only a half hour
which doesn't make any sense. Stupid. So there was a
(14:23):
producer's name was Tim Kylee who you hear his name
now and again because he was a producer for Inside
the NBA for so long in Atlanta. One of the
greatest guys, one of the greatest guys in the world.
Tim Kyleie, great dude. He he would he was a producer.
He would produce these shows. And he would always say
to somebody like, all right, like the rundown was, I
have I have no room for anything else. I don't
know for anything else. And then someone would come upstairs
(14:44):
and say, hey, did you just see what just happened
in the in the Sharks and you know whatever, and
and he would say the same. He would say, did
somebody die? Well no, did somebody quit?
Speaker 4 (14:54):
No?
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Then I have no room for it. Hey, did you
see what Joe Mont? Did he die?
Speaker 4 (15:01):
No?
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Did he quit?
Speaker 2 (15:02):
No?
Speaker 1 (15:02):
And we have no room for it. We have no room.
We have no room. So from that, we have no room.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
You take a literal four hour show and say, okay,
something that's really not news anymore. Yeah, we have no
room for anything else.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
No, well, don't for you. We also have to debate
if the Lakers are back, because that's going to be
a show long debate now or the Lakers Nakers are.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Already down ten to four?
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Is the night over? Are they back? Are they not?
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have a big night going on in the NBA playoffs.
Lakers and Memphis now a one point game.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
God's ten to nine. The Lakers are back, jim once again,
prosperg is not here, Lakers are pack Jason Smith.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Jimmy, all these they're all dead to me. They're all
dead to me. All those guys are all dead to me.
It doesn't matter. They're all dead to me. But coming
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Speaker 1 (17:06):
The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon,
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you know Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers. Okay, you're gonna want
the other side of the Aaron Rodgers trade and someone
who doesn't like the Jets giving up what they gave up. Well,
joining us now on the hotline to break it all down.
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Jason lock and four That is at Jason lock and four.
Check him out on Odyssey The Washington Post. Jay, what's happening, buddy?
(17:52):
How are you?
Speaker 4 (17:53):
What's going on? Well? I'm glad at least the green
half of this tandem is here tonight to celebrate this day.
That you will be ruined, that you will be hated,
that you will be considering one of the lowest moments
in franchise history. I'm want to say about I don't
(18:13):
know what's May June, July, August, September, October November. I'm
going to say within seven months, seven and a half months.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
No wait, wait minute.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
What the f did we do? No?
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Wait wait wait, let's just do you even think we
that the Jets? I say we because you know I
helped make this happen. Can can we get the Aaron
Rodgers of last year?
Speaker 4 (18:39):
Do you like the Aaron Rodgers last year?
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Well questions?
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Yes, exactly.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Aaron Rodgers last year was dogs.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
The guy can say you probably can't but say, s
h I t e. Okay, I'll throw the E on
there for our friends at the UK. Okay, didn't you
like that guy?
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Hey?
Speaker 4 (19:00):
That guy when they were making their playoff push in
the last six weeks of the season. That guy was
a worse statistical quarterback than Baker Mayfield, who was just
figuring out the Rams playbook on the fly. That guy,
by QB rating was worse than Desmond Ritter.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Jay like Jay, you know who we had last year
playing quarterback? You know that our started quarterbacks six touchdowns
last year.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
The reason that the Packers got off the net wasn't
because Aaron Rodgers got good down the stretch. He was
still crappy. He wasn't pushing the ball downfield. He wasn't
making big plays. They got decent in a much crappier conference,
by the way, with no quarterbacks opposing him to speak of.
(19:48):
They got better because the return game got freaking dieky
good because they changed their defense on the fly, and
it got much better because they ran the damn ball
so that this guy only had to throw it underneath,
only had to dink and duncan. Like he doesn't want
to throw interceptions because it doesn't look good on the
back of his card, you know, his football card. But
(20:11):
he's still threw a bunch of them, and he'll blame
anybody else for him other than himself. And he does
not like playing with young players. Like he's made it
pretty clear he's been throwing people under the bus over
the bus, like I guess if you say it out loud,
it's not even really under the bus, right, Like he's
just been like not happy about his cast forever. And
(20:33):
this looks on paper like a good cast, but it's
a young cast, and they're going to make mistakes. They're
going to make mental mistakes, they're going to make physical mistakes,
and he's not going to bite his tongue. And the
offensive line sucks. Like, I mean, if you think Dwayne Brown,
whatever's left of him and whatever you know, Mackai Beckdon
(20:54):
might be like, if you think that's good enough to
buttress this guy who just doesn't want to get hit anymore,
but collect the full sixty million dollars, you know, pass
go you know, do not go to jail card. Just
get that sixty million by any means necessary. No, I'm
not even being facetious. I think it's going to be
(21:15):
an abject failure. He doesn't want anything to do with
New York. He doesn't want anything to do with the
New York media. He wants nothing to do with Sorry
the Loser asks franchise that the New York Jets are.
He's there because the convenience. They're the only ones who
would pay the freight. Like, there's no way that this
makes sense. It only makes sense as an arranged marriage,
(21:36):
and one in which Woody Johnson prevented the football people
from actually making a strong football play like they were
over a barrel for no good reason. Just five different
things they could have done to have real leverage to
get this guy for what he's worth in a sixty
million dollars salary dump because it's a salary dump, not
(21:57):
a football trade, and they made a football trade for
a guy who the rest of the league would be like,
that's a salary dump, Like you want me to take
that salary on, I'll give you a five, Like I'll
give you a five that can move to four if
we win anything with them. And they went out and
paid far close to full value for the former MVP
(22:17):
guy from two years ago who you're never going to
see again.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Wow, can we run that last five minutes on a
loop for the rest of the show. That was sensational?
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Hey said? He said, so, I okay, So now I
know there's one extra space in my super Bowl party
in Vegas because Jason lock and four is off the
list right now, you are off the Jet super Bowl
party list in Las Vegas.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
Now with that, that's fine. You know what, send Eisen
in my stead, except he ain't gonna be there either,
because if there's a nine and eight, like if there's
some sort of big ass like parade, carnival, freak show
for finishing nine and eight, then sign me up for it,
because that's what you're going to be.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
What are the positives from this deal, like not counting
fully against the cap or not having to give up
a first rounder. There must be something good too.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
What do you mean, unless your offensive line gets killed,
he's probably still gonna play sixty five percent. I don't
think he's gonna play seventy five percent. Who probably end
up playing just enough to make you give up the
one next You will have nothing to show for it
because you're nine to eight and you're the like fourth
wildcard team, and you're gonna somebody's gonna curb stomp you
in the first round.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
You realized my entire forties that Jets didn't make the playoffs,
So getting curb stomped in a wildcard game, that's a
win for me. I mean, that's that's a big win.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
That's a big win Morgan's future draft picks. And here's
where you're really gonna get punched in a cajones. This
is the perfect year to actually tank, but you're obviously not.
This guy will be better than you had no quarterbacks
last year, and he's not a good quarterback anymore, but
he's a serviceable I guess like he's still going to
make sixty million dollars. I mean, he ain't gonna be
(23:51):
worth that, but he can play in the league. I guess.
So you'll mess around with that defense and win too
many games to actually be in position to have one
like follow you next year. Yeah, games from a draft
capitol standpoint to not be able to pay the freight
that it's going to take to get to the top
(24:13):
four next year. Between the teams that finish really, really low,
like the Texans who are just gonna, you know, be
conscientious objectors to the quarterback position again in this draft
because they really want Caleb Williams next year. Like, between
the teams that do that and the teams that overdraft
quarterbacks this year and still need one next year and say,
screw it, we're going to do that, or the teams
that are able to have the draft capital to move
(24:35):
up to get into the top four, Like you're going
to be in none of those bins. Like you're going
to be less than to all of them, and you'll
be catching table scraps at the quarterback like you'll find
your next Hackenberg, you know whatever, in the second or
third round next year.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Like, but that's what happens, Jay, when you pick thirty second,
that's what happens. You want to know.
Speaker 4 (24:55):
It's not gonna become that it's going to be you're
picking eighteen and you don't have or fourteen sixteen and
you don't have what it takes to get to the
top four in what's going to be a truly, truly,
truly generational quarterback trap next year.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
So let's just pretend that Jeff's fans are over reacting
a bit to this news. Let's just for the sake
of argument, say that is there any way Jason Locking
for that you would say this would be a proper
acquisition for any team, getting Aaron Rodgers and not giving
up a first rounder.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
And he's to think there was only one team that
wanted Yeah, Like, that's that's not even an opinion, that's
not debatable. That's not like everybody knew. I wrote about
the Washington Post hell a month before the season was over,
that Green Bay was done with them. They had Aaron
(25:53):
Rodgers fatigue. He hated them, They hated him, and it
was over and they were going to salary dump him
to anybody who would take take him off their hands.
And I had gms and pro personnel directors and assistant
GM's all saying the same thing, like it's a fourth
or fifth round salary dump. Like that was the reality
(26:13):
of the situation with where the player was at this
stage of his career and where the market was, and
you had all these teams saying, Oh, I'd rather take
Jimmy g for this, or I'd rather take Derek Carr
for that, or I'd rather sit the whole damn thing
out and take Will Levis fourth overall, right, or I'll
wait to see what kind of tag they put on Lamar.
But then we're a ratte want anyway. So, like all
(26:36):
that went down, and there was one team still standing
four days before the draft, and it was the only
team that wanted to visit with him, right, it was
the only team that wanted to be granted permission to
talk to him before the non campering period or whatever. Like, No,
I can't never make it make sense. No, it's coming
(26:59):
from wood. He what is what he ever gotten? Right?
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Well, you picked me right up here, Jay, this entire
last few minutes right there. You really helped me out there.
Thanks a lot, buddy, I appreciate that. That's great.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
You know me, I call him like I said, I
can't even.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Tell you the Orioles are bad and yell at you
for the Orioles. I can't even do that.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
He's gonna play one year, You're gonna win. He's gonna win,
just you enough games to f you in next year's draft.
And then he's he's gonna be off whatever, hiking the
freaking Rockies, like taking what is it, hyaanuska, hyahuasca, hyawuska, whatever,
(27:38):
It's gonna be him and like a Yeti and Kung
Fu walk in the earth with wood. He's with sixty
million dollars of wood. He's money in his back packet.
You'll never see him again, live in a yurt somewhere
and Montana smoking. God knows what he'll be. His pockets
(28:00):
will be straight though.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
You can follow on Twitter at Jason lock And for
that is at Jason lock And fora Odyssey Washington Post
NFL insider who was just a little bit cautious about
the Jets making this trade forever. Jay is always, buddy.
When I say appreciate it usually mean it. But I'm
putting appreciated quotes. That's all right, buddy, that's right. We'll
talk to you after the drafts.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
That was spectacular.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
He's so so I think what he's trying to say
is hey, maybe a little bit, let let's tap the
brakes a tiny bit and maybe thanks saying maybe maybe
let's have a little bit of trepidaciousness about this trade.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
And he was also saying get prepared for the off
season phrase snatch the pebbles from my hands, because that's
what he's going to be concentrating to do. It's not
going to be any football focus whatsoever.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
See what I heard from Jason was, hey, there's a
couple of things. Doesn't mean it's not a great trade,
doesn't mean that Jets aren't going to win big, but
just a couple of things to be concerned about. That's
kind of what I heard. I'm Jason.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
Literally nobody else on the planet wanted him.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
I didn't hear that part. I didn't have that part.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
I'm not sure there were relatives that wanted him. I mean, no, no, no, like.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
It was bad. We're gonna we're gonna fix this for
our best of podcasts. I'm gonna use the artificial intelligence
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Speaker 3 (29:18):
This is not a salary and place it there that
you might have actually gotten two second rounders out of
this year and next year. I believe that's what I heard.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Yeah, listen, we'll we'll get to the salary, don't We'll
get to the salary part of this and this whole Oh,
the judge Scott Sleeps. Just stop it. We'll get to
that coming up.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Well, there is such a thing as dead cap money.
It's not like the Packers are free and clear. No, no,
the NFL.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Yeah.
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(30:50):
hear that. But yes, Jimmy Butler tonight an inhuman game
for the Heat that nobody thought they were going to
win because Jannis was coming back from Milwaukee and this
was going to be it. Yiannis had a triple double.
He was twenty six thirteen and ten Brook Lopez had
thirty six. I mean, come on, man, thirty two and
(31:13):
it didn't matter because Butler goes for fifty six tonight.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
About half the points Miami scorer yep.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
And they win it, overt Milwaukee one nineteen to one fourteen.
They now take a three games to one lead in
this series. We talked a few minutes ago about how, hey,
me being a Knicks fan, I'm not afraid of anybody. Now, hey,
I'm not afraid of the heat and not a fraan.
The Bucks could go out here. They're one game win.
They were the best team all over the course of
the year, they'd been the best team. Yeah, no, I'm
(31:41):
not scared of anybody. But for Jimmy Butler for a second, right,
for a game like this that when the playoffs begin,
Butler always seems to be at his best. And this
is a guy who was, you know, into his near
mid thirties at this point, and he's still putting up
fifty six points in a game like this. He has
had a career that has just been tremendous and it's
(32:02):
always been one of those boy, Jimmy Butler's pretty good boy,
And then I'll give you something that just makes you
go Wow. Butler should have been bigger, and he should
have been a bigger star, and he should have wound
up being someone that had a better career arc But
he's someone who played the first few years in Chicago,
then he went to Minnesota, went to Philadelphia. Now he's
(32:22):
found his home in Miami the past four years.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
And twenty points a game.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Yeah, he's twenty points again. There's lots of guys scored
twenty points a game, right, but why Butler's a guy
elevates his game, all of these all of these things.
But why is Butler not bigger?
Speaker 4 (32:35):
Why?
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Why? Why do we tell it's almost like Jimmy Butler
is Damian Lillard East right, like, boy, look at these games,
but when once in a great great great while his
team has a big playoff run, But Butler should be
bigger and and why didn't it work out for him
at the other stops. So much of the NBA nowadays,
Steve is being able to manage big stars because they're
(32:57):
gonna make the ride bumpy along the way. That's that's
the way it is now. Right, you had a handful
of stars, and okay, maybe a couple of these guys
are difficult to manage over the course of their NBA careers.
But now twenty twenty three, there's guys everywhere that make
it really difficult and make the ride bumpy.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
I'm not kidding. Or when you started the sentence, I
thought you were talking about Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Aaron Rodgers. But listen, the ride for the Lakers with
Lebron and Anthony Davis has been very bumpy, right. We've
seen that the ride for Joel and beating the Sixers,
it's been bumpy. Most teams, for the Kawhi Leonard and
the Clippers, it's been bumpy. Big superstars come with big
time problems and issues that need to be managed, and
(33:39):
it happens that way. Look for Donovan Mitchell, the ride
was really bumpy in Utah. That's why he's not on
the Utah Jazz anymore. You see it everywhere you go.
The ride with these superstars gets that way. And because
we have spent so much time about the Warriors that
are very unselfish and Stephan Clay, you think, okay, no, no.
But elsewhere in the NBA it exists in a large way,
(34:00):
and Jimmy Butler is that guy. And Butler's someone who
will make that ride bumpy all the way through. He
played his way out of Chicago, and what happened in
Minnesota and in Philadelphia. They just couldn't figure out that
he if he was worth all the bumpiness. And I've
said bumping now so many times in the last couple
of minutes. I want bumpy cake.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
No, you're right, it's not a smooth ride. That's the
correct term.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
So now you have Minnesota that cut bade on him
after a couple of years. They didn't like how he
was dealing with the younger players. Is he really the
influence they need? He was trying to push Karl Anthony
Towns to try to get him to be better. No,
they didn't like that so much, so they traded him
to Philadelphia. Philadelphia, Yeah, we don't know if Jimmy Butler
is our guy. I don't know we should do. And
then he goes to Miami and it hasn't always been
smooth in Miami. Remember the you know a year ago
(34:44):
during the huddle when he wanted to fight Eric Spolstra.
And this is gonna be it for Jimmy Butler, right,
this is it for Butler. But I give the Heat
so much credit because they have figured out how to
handle Jimmy Butler, superstar and the guy that makes things thorny.
See if I was gonna say, but I said thorny,
And they figured out. And so much of that is
to If the Lakers have been able to figure out
(35:04):
Lebron James, things will be a lot different than they
were right now. But they've not been able to because
he's got too much of a foothold on the team
and they've just not been able to do it. But
that's the whole thing. How do you handle superstars knowing
it's gonna get bumpy, and knowing when to stay in
it and when to say, okay, now we have to
cut out, to cut bakes. You go back to Minnesota
and the seventy six ers. Now they would say, oh,
one hundred percent, give us Jimmy Butler back. We didn't
(35:27):
know how to handle him. We can handle him now.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
You referenced playoff Jimmy Butler. Everyone needs to remember how
incredible he was in the NBA Finals in twenty twenty
against the Lakers. I know it was the bubble and
there was no fans in the building and all of that,
and you know it wasn't a June Finals, and maybe
all of that plays into it. He was phenomenal, like
to the point of exhaustion, phenomenal. I looked it up
(35:51):
for the series. This is the Finals. Twenty six points,
eight rebounds, ten assists, sensational. He's thirty points a game
in this.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Series fifty six tonight, thirty points a game here, one
game away from knocking out the Milwaukee Bucks. Yeah, give
the heat. Heat figured it out. Give them a lot
of credit for it. We got more on Jimmy Buckets.
We got more on the Jets and Aaron Rodgers. Are
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