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April 25, 2023 36 mins

Jason Smith continues his Aaron Rodgers celebration with Steve DeSaegher, in for Mike Harmon. Jason explains why the Jets deserve credit for trading for Aaron Rodgers, who are not getting enough credit from anyone. The guys look at the Rodgers deal and compare it to the instant aftermath some other major QB deals had in the last couple years. Plus, the NBA regular season is getting more and more irrelevant.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
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Speaker 3 (00:28):
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(00:53):
the Jets get Aaron Rodgers. Yes, it's so exciting. Yes,
I've been so excited today. Yes, it's it's like ninety
degrees here in late today. I'm wearing my Jets sweatshirt
and I don't care the sweat pouring off of me
all night I am wearing this with pride, Steve Desager,
I am so excited.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
I can't even tell you.

Speaker 4 (01:11):
But you knew it was gonna happen, So yes, hadn't
you had some of these feelings already in the last
forty days that we had to go through this.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
Okay? But what do I always say?

Speaker 1 (01:19):
Every day was Aaron Rodgers Eve, And but the day
that it's actually Aaron Rodgers' Day is pretty exciting. Like
Christmas Eve, you're excited on Christmas Eve. Sure, when you
get to Christmas Day you get to actually open the presence,
you have to just it's like walking under every day,
shaking the shaking the present, going oh, I think this
is all. I think that this might be a Nintendo switch, Oh,
this might be this, this might be an a.

Speaker 3 (01:41):
Forty year old quarterback.

Speaker 4 (01:42):
We got a forty year old quarterback for Christmas.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
A really good thirty nine year old quarterback that's good.

Speaker 4 (01:49):
Just to stop first, So you're saying that by December
when he turns forty, he just won't be in action
by that.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
Let me just say this because I really feel this today. Yes,
now the Jets get Aaron rodd will get into the trade.
The Jets flip first round picks with the Packers. This year,
they give them the second round pick and a conditional
second round pick that could be a first round pick
depending on Aaron Rodgers plays sixty five percent of the snaps.
Jets are also getting a fifth round pick. Well, we'll
get to that whole Oh the Jets got fleeced. Ridiculous

(02:17):
narrative that Packer fans are flooding Twitter with because they
say they have to actually understand. Oh, oh Fleet is
translimmer dame. But let me just say that's a little
extreme now, But let me yeah, exactly right, because people
think it's not like the Jets gave up four first
round picks, Kenny, It's not like the Laker Steve Nash.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
Pit, you know, I think they went out of the
Oh look at that, Steven. No. No.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
But you see the reports of this today, and I've
seen so much negativity towards the Jets getting Rogers right,
and I really do. I firmly believe this is that
there's certain teams that the media and fans just don't
like no matter what they do, for whatever reason, because
they work with too many people who are.

Speaker 3 (02:59):
Fans of this team.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
You know if you work, if you work at ESPN,
you know, you work with a lot of Yankee fans,
You work with a lot of you know, Mets for
all this stuff.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
You work at Fox Sports.

Speaker 4 (03:07):
Just as many people hate Syracuse as.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
You were saying, no, say, come on, Syracuse is not
that no.

Speaker 4 (03:11):
I mean there's how many co workers in sports people
have Syracuse.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
Yeah, but we're not that relevant though. I mean it's
not like, you know, come on, we make the NC
Tournament once every couple of years. Now my bad, Yes, okay,
because the Jets are relevant, but.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
It's the NFL.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
It's the NFL and the Jets have been such long
time laughing stocks and the Jets. And I knew that
the minute this trade went down, whatever it was going
to be, the reaction was going to be many people saying,
this trade sucks, the Jets are stupid.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
And I just knew it.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
Because there's that built in I don't like the Jets
because a lot of people like me on the radio,
I'm sick of here that all this stuff whatever it is,
you know, you hear you hear stuff about teams you
just don't like.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
Same thing about the Knicks.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
People don't like hearing that the Knicks are good because uh,
did the Knicks tire me? You know, hearing about the
Knicks tire me? Right, I get it, I understand it.

Speaker 4 (04:00):
So really it's Knicks fans that tired.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
But it's not Knicks fans or it's Knicks you know
in the media, it's just the overall sense of I
get fatigued on. People get fatigued on teams for no
other reason. Then I just don't like them because they
have an image to me that I don't like.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
Right, I don't like done Jerry Jones, Yeah I don't.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
Yeah, but the Cowboy, you know, they make at least
he makes it exciting every year, makes it fun. But yeah,
people are fatigued on Jerry Jones. But still, and this
is why anything the Cowboys do, it gets criticized more
than it should. Right, there's things that happen. There's teams
to get criticized way more than they should just because
they are who they are. And the Jets are one
of those teams. Longtime laughing sock here. They either go

(04:39):
get this trade stinks. Meanwhile, let's not let's let's forget.
Let's not forget for a second that Aaron Rodgers even
last year, which was not a great Aaron Rodgers here,
the guy had won the MVP the two years before.

Speaker 3 (04:54):
But Aaron Rodgers is.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
Still a top half of the NFL quarterback no matter
how you cut it up. Is he Is he one
of the top three quarterbacks in the game anymore?

Speaker 4 (05:02):
No?

Speaker 1 (05:02):
Probably not. But is he a top half of the
NFL quarterback Yeah? Are the Jets paying him too much money?

Speaker 3 (05:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (05:08):
As a too much dead cap for the Packers? Yeah,
But what do you care? It's not your money. I
don't care. The Jets have been able to put together
a pretty good bleeping team and they're just a quarterback away,
and Aaron Rodgers is still one of the top half
quarterbacks of the NFL. In fact, he'll probably be a
little bit better than top half this year because the
Jets are a better football team than the Packers are,
all right, they are. The Jets have a better defense,

(05:29):
I have a better rushing attack, they have a better
path to have better weapons in the passing game.

Speaker 3 (05:32):
The offensive line is an issue.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
I'll give you that, But this is why you still
have the draft to fix things going forward. There's so
much more. I don't like this because of just the
image that the Jets have, Nobody wants to give them credit.
If the Patriots pulled off the same exact trade for
Aaron Rodgers, you would see all kinds of people falling
all over themselves to say, what a genius move by

(05:54):
Bill Belichick.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
Look at this.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
He snags Aaron Rodgers out from under the Jets, knows
is and and brings him into the AFC East, and
you know he's gonna be good. If the if the
if the Pittsburgh Steelers traded for Aaron Rodgers, it would be, oh,
what an incredibly smart move by Mike Tomlin. Look at
what they've done here. Any other team, almost any other
team trades for them, it's met with much better reaction

(06:18):
than it is for the Jets, because because I watch
people go crazy over Oh, it's a conditional second round
pick that's gonna be a first round pick. Yeah, Okay,
it's not that big a deal.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
Did I do? I think the Jets give up a
little bit too much for him.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
Yeah, but you know what, if Aaron Rodgers is good,
I don't care what they give up.

Speaker 3 (06:34):
It doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
It doesn't matter what anybody gives up as long as
a guy is good, right, doesn't matter if the if
the forty nine ers, what they gave up for Trey Lance,
doesn't matter what they gave up as long as Trey
Lance is good. If he's not good, it's not gonna
be worth it. But if a guy is good, especially
a quarterback, yeah, it doesn't matter. And I'm not gonna
sit here and say, oh if this deal doesn't come
without risk. But the Jets get Aaron Rodgers, who again

(06:56):
two out of the last three years was MVP. Last
year was kind of a down year and and maybe
it was he was just done in Green Bay. Potentially
that could be what it is. There's a lot more
guys that I that I would feel a lot less
great about taking a chance on in free agency in
the NFL. This year, there's they got the number one
quarterback on the board. In the offseason, the Jets had
a problem. They had to get a new quarterback because

(07:17):
Zach Wilson is terrible and he stinks and I don't
care if he tries to make Aaron Rodgers life hell
at practice every day. He stinks and the Jets needed
to upgrade, and guess what, they got the best quarterback
they could they could obtain. They got Aaron Rodgers because
Lamar Jackson is still a raven and we're still waiting
for the draft. Of all the guys out there in
free agency that were able, the Jets went out and
got the best guy. So yeah, you got to give

(07:38):
the Jets credit. I'll enjoy all your hater aid, enjoy
everything else everybody wants. Oh, the Jets know. The Jets
made a good trade. They have a fantastic team. They
become a super Bowl caliber team getting Aaron Rodgers and
that's what they did. And today was a great day. However,
how you cut it up, today was a great day.
They still have a first and second route picking the
draft this year. Right, they still have not given up

(08:00):
a first round pick. They have not given up a
first round pick for Aaron Rodgers Jets. So this is
just a false narrative that people want to put out
there just because they don't like the Jets.

Speaker 4 (08:09):
Now, he goes from back to back MVP in two years,
bottom half of the league. I don't see that as
far as quarterback talent, So I'm with you on that.
By his lofty standards Hall of Fame standards. Individually, this
was his worst passer rating season last year after fifteen
years of NFL football, So I don't see him going

(08:31):
back to be MVP, and I'm glad I hear from you. Okay,
he's probably not a top three, but we all saw
what they had at quarterback the Jets last year, and
I will say that I maybe the aspect of this
deal that I like most for the Jets is how
the Packers absorb all this dead cap money and the
bonus cash is pro rated, so for a starting quarterback,

(08:52):
they're really not paying that much against the cap the Jets.
So yeah, he's got a lot of money do him.
It's not all due him from the Jets. And it's
not such an enormous cap hit on the Jets immediately
that they can't make other moves or it completely ties
the organization in a salary cap league for the next
few years or anything like that. No, it's an improvement

(09:13):
at quarterback. I don't think it makes them a super
Bowl team, but even if they were literally the only
team wanting Aaron Rodgers, it's better for them and that's
really their only concern.

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Speaker 4 (10:13):
Can I get a little Lakers update here? Anthony Davis
is playing, but he did have a hard fall on
his hip and has stayed in the game. And then defensively,
he took an elbow below the belt and his state
in the game. Got a t for complaining about that.
But the Lakers are up fifteen late first half against Memphis.
The Grizzlies are shooting thirty percent from the floor.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
Would you say ten times a year there's a Laker
game where Anthony Davis gets shaken up at some point
in the first half and everybody goes crazy for about
ten minutes and he turns out to be fine.

Speaker 4 (10:40):
Yeah, it's kind of like a times Light. It's like
Lebron's career and they're on the same team.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
Now, so yeah, I mean, now I can't get over
helmy town.

Speaker 4 (10:50):
And he's not kiddick up.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
Oh wait, he's up. Everything's okay, he's doing okay.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
Now, Uh, I can't get out because because fleeced was
what was trending on on Twitter the entire the entire
day with the Jets and a lot of the game. Yeah,
and I see a lot and I know a lot
of his packer fans who have to come to grips
at Now now you have Jordan Love, good luck you
wanted to guy, now good luck? Right, Well look what
we got. Look you still haven't gotten a first round pick.
You put the guy left right, and you lost your guy.

(11:18):
Fleeced is if the Jets had given up, Hey, we
traded three first round picks the next three years. You
ain't go bear trade comes to mind for it would
be yeah, flee debt, or the the Jared kell mc
robinson cano trade with the Mets and the Mariners.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
That's getting fixed.

Speaker 4 (11:33):
Jared Kelnick's hitting three hundred.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
Yeah, I know, I know. That's what I mean. That's
getting fleeced.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
This was I mean, really, it's it's it's so many
people want to just say one trade absolutely was one
by one team and was not one by the other,
when this was this was a trade that the Jets
win because they get an incredible upgrade at quarterback with
a future Hall of Famer that's got a lot of
gas left in the tank. I'm sorry, No, Aaron Rodgers

(11:57):
isn't washed. He's a guy that had a down year
last year. Let's see what a new year with a
new team, with a better team can do. I'm okay
with that because that's a bigger upgrade because again, Zach
Wilson was six touchdowns last year, so they needed a
better guy and they got one. Now for the Packers, yeah,
they got to push reset. Right, they've seen We've gotten
as far as we can with Aaron Rodgers. We're not
going out to get him help a wide receiver anymore.

(12:18):
We're not doing any of these things we see We've
drafted Jordan Love. We made the mistake of trading up
for him in the first round, so we have to
play him. And now is this is a time to
say goodbye to Aaron Rodgers, not coming off an MVP season,
but coming off a year in which he was a
little bit less than that.

Speaker 3 (12:33):
What did we get?

Speaker 1 (12:34):
We got a couple of first round picks, or we
got a couple of second round picks. We moved up
two spots in the first round of the draft. We
got what we could. I thought what the Packers wound
up getting was a tiny bit more then the Jets.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
We're gonna wind up having to give up for it.

Speaker 1 (12:48):
So okay, really it's the hook of the second round
pick that could be a first round pick.

Speaker 3 (12:53):
But I got news for you.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
If Aaron Rodgers is playing sixty five percent of the
snatch with the Jets, guess what. The Jets are pretty
good and that pick is going to be in the
high twenties, which, okay, good luck getting it right, because
you're throwing a dart at that point. You're bringing in
somebody to think is good, but you're throwing a dart.
Once you get outside of the top ten and really
the top couple at each position, and maybe this guy
works out, maybe he doesn't. So yeah, the whole fleece thing,
I'm like, this is just to make people feel better.

(13:16):
I want to feel better about this, or I want
to blame somebody, and I don't like the Jets, so
I want to blame Then, getting back to my original
point that people just don't like the Jets and they're
gonna say everything they do stinks just because it happens
that way.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
But that's okay, Steve, I got big shoulders. I can
handle it.

Speaker 4 (13:31):
A little context here, The Jets haven't won a playoff
game since the twenty ten season, as we have discussed
on this show, that is now the longest active drought
in any of the four major sports.

Speaker 3 (13:42):
Don't you have any.

Speaker 4 (13:44):
Concern as a Jets fan that you're getting a quarterback
that has one double digit win season after another over
the last decade plus and a lot of head scratching,
and I mean that how did this happen? Type of
playoff losses. We're not a single suit Super Bowl appearance
in over a decade, despite well recently, for example, those

(14:04):
three straight thirteen win seasons.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
Steve, you know you ever hear the phrase, hey, some
people forget where they came from. You hear that phrase,
you weeple forget where they came from, Like, you know,
this person was such so nice, and you know when
they when they came up as a superstar as an
actor or an actress, and they were and then they
became so Hollywood and they're different. Yeah, they forget where
they came from. I never am going to forget where
I came from. And this is my entire forties, was

(14:29):
without a playoff game for the New York Jets, my
entire forties. I would love the chance to disappoint in
the AFC Championship Game.

Speaker 3 (14:37):
I would love that.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
I would look forward to having a disappointing game in
the AFC Championship Game. I would look forward to saying
we're great and then Rogers throws four picks and people say,
the guys thinks, I'm not forgetting where I came from.
And this is ten plus years now, more than that,
the longest active playoff drought in all of sports.

Speaker 3 (14:56):
I don't care.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
If the Jets are nine to eight in the regular season,
then they get an Aaron Rodgers is good. Don't care.
I want to win. I don't care who plays quarterback.
I don't care who plays running back. We got a
better quarterback and the guy that's going to the Hall
of Fame, and maybe he's great and maybe he can
win a super Bowl. But now we're in that conversation
because however you want to slice it. The Jets defense
one of the top five defenses in the NFL. The

(15:17):
Jets running game. You got Breis Hall coming back, who
was on his way to being Offensive Rookie of the
Year last year only to get hurt. And then who
won Offensive Rookie of the Year, Garrett Wilson. The Jets
have superstars at running back and wide receiver. They have
a deep wide receiver room, they have a pretty deep
running back room, and now they have Aaron Rodgers. I'm
feeling pretty good about our Super Bowl chances, but I
will sign up for another AFC Championship heartbreak because my

(15:41):
life has been filled with AFC Championship heartbreaks with the Jets,
because they can't get out of it outside of the
Super Bowl. They make it to the AFC title Game
five times. They're going five and they always find a.

Speaker 3 (15:50):
Way to go. Oh how did they do this?

Speaker 1 (15:52):
But I will sign up for that, because that would
at least tell me we're good and I'm not just
packing away this season by the time and by the
time we get to Halloween and the.

Speaker 4 (16:02):
Dolphins reacquire aj Dewey and everything is no if we
have for forty years, has it been too soon?

Speaker 1 (16:08):
You know, you know you want you want to bring
up that game again, Steve, you want a conference championship.
I'll tell you I've I've threatened to key everybody's car
in the show. I have not threatened to key your car.
I can change that today, change out right now.

Speaker 4 (16:20):
I'm with you on all of this until you mentioned
the words super Bowl, super Bowl?

Speaker 3 (16:24):
Why not?

Speaker 4 (16:24):
I like the fact that you're trying to keep it
in context.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
Why not? Why not US? Why not? Super Bowl? Why
not US?

Speaker 4 (16:30):
Why not Bengals made a super Bowl?

Speaker 3 (16:32):
Why not? I agree? Why not? Yeah? Why not? It's
where the Jets? We can do it?

Speaker 4 (16:35):
Halftime in LA, Lakers by two. So much for the
fifteen point lead.

Speaker 3 (16:39):
I thought the are the Lakers back or are they
not back? Are they back? I'll say they're not back.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
Okay, they're not back. Okay, so they were back, now
they're not back. Because the lead is only two now
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(17:08):
Well coming up next, Yes, we get back into the
big night of the National Basketball Association. Plus how about
a real big hot take and what makes me nervous
about Aaron Rodgers and the Jets? Because there is something
that makes me nervous we have not hit on it yet.
We'll get to it.

Speaker 3 (17:26):
Coming up next right here Jason and Steve Fox.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
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Speaker 1 (17:40):
Fox Sports Radio, The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon,
Steve Disagar, and for Arman Tonight. All of the music
from tonight's show coming from the year that Aaron Rodgers
was born, So we're going back. We're going back to
the early eighties with a little foreigner and urgent here
at Fox Sports Radio. Yeah, Joe Jackson stepping out early. Well, yeah,

(18:00):
I mean we're going back. Good celebrate, let's celebrate songs
that they're thirty nine years old.

Speaker 4 (18:05):
I saw foreigner sing the national anthem before a Charger
game once. Really, they gave a concert in the parking
lot before the game.

Speaker 3 (18:12):
It was great, wow, and they said, and here we are.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
Oh say, can you see because the Boston tea party
is urgent, so urgent.

Speaker 4 (18:23):
They do have, you know, hooks in hit songs where
people can, like you just sayg that's the only line
most people know. But hey, that's a hit song and
people will love it, and you know, it brings back
memories that most foreigner songs are that exactly. It's just
one hook.

Speaker 3 (18:39):
There you go. The American Revolution was hot blooded. To
check it and see the gotta fever of one hundred
and three.

Speaker 4 (18:48):
Speaking of urgents, we mentioned, the Lakers lead is down
to two with the half against Memphis. Anthony Davis oh
of five shooting from the floor in the first half
two points. Dylan Brooks zero for four from three point range,
six points in the first half.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
How many groin shots for uh Dylan Brooks any so
far in the first half? ID took one okay, but
none from Dylan Brooks. I don't believe so okay, very Dylan.
Dylan Brooks, who loved being the Hey, this is who
I am and that No, no, no.

Speaker 3 (19:14):
No, I don't like being a bad guy.

Speaker 4 (19:15):
Yeah, I thought you poked the bear. That was who
you were.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
No, I don't like this. I don't like it.

Speaker 4 (19:21):
I thought for him. So I'm here on weekends with us.
Put it very well that he's writing checks that he
can't cash, essentially asking his team to catch them for him.
When you get a toss, Hey, thanks a lot, great teammate.

Speaker 1 (19:35):
It's what Stinger told Tom Cruise and Top gun Son.
You're writing checks your body can't.

Speaker 3 (19:39):
Carry you again, what happens? Yes, exactly.

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Speaker 3 (19:59):
We I know.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
I'm picking out my clothes like like, I'm like, I'm
a teenager. I'm picking out my clothes to wear into
work tonight, right, and I go, okay, I want to
wear my Jets my Jet sweat and I go, oh, man,
it's in the laundry all right, right, well, I'll wash it.
And I forgot that over the weekend when I wore
my Jet sweatshirt, I spilled I I spilled a drink
on it.

Speaker 3 (20:19):
And so I'm like, okay, so I had.

Speaker 4 (20:20):
A stain, mature you thought the trade was done then?

Speaker 1 (20:24):
No, no, no, no, I just I think it was just
I like I had a I had a mocha, and
I think it was just hot. I go ooh, it
was hot and spilling there. So I'm like, so I
forgot to stain treat it. So I put it into
the washing machine and I took it out. I go, oh,
the stain is there because I didn't treat it. And
I go, but screw it. I gotta wear it tonight, right.
I can't not wear it Tonight's radio. Yes, I got
my stained sweatshirt on, and I'm feeling good. And the

(20:45):
first thing I'm gonna do is go home and put
this back in the wash and overnight soaking and get
it ready so I can wear this thing tomorrow.

Speaker 4 (20:51):
That'll be appropriate for all the stains that Aaron Rodgers
uniform has week to week with the line.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
No, no, you kid, and he's gonna He's not gonna
get sacked once, you kidding?

Speaker 3 (20:59):
Not not one?

Speaker 4 (21:00):
Yeah, you know there were times I just thought you
were so tethered to reality tonight and then and then
sentences like that come up. Oh no, yeah, he will
be really a Jets fan.

Speaker 3 (21:11):
Well, he knows when to throw the football away. Somebody
was coming. We hadn't even snapped it yet. Now I'm
sorry I had to throw the ball away. I had
to throw it away.

Speaker 4 (21:17):
Wait a minute, you're implying that he never got sacked
as a Jet. He's gotten sacked thirty and forty times,
a couple times, fifty times in a season.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
How many times he gotten sacked? How many times have
the Jets allowed Aaron Rodgers to be sacked? Zero?

Speaker 3 (21:31):
They've allowed him to be sacked zero times.

Speaker 4 (21:33):
You can't see him getting sacked twice a game all year.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
Nope, never happened, won't happen, won't happen because two touchdowns
a quarter, zero sacks, that's gonna be it.

Speaker 4 (21:42):
I refer back to my tethered to reality.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
Eight touchdowns a week, that would be let's see eighty
fifty six. That would be one hundred and thirty six touchdowns,
no interceptions, and the Jets will still find a way
to go ten and seven.

Speaker 3 (21:54):
Boy, those games. I lost that one fifty eight to
fifty six. That was a tough one. Man, that's a
tough game. Sauce Gardner got called for holding on every play.
They're the Jets.

Speaker 4 (22:03):
I think they'll find a way to go nine and
seven in a complete season, just nine and seven. They
just somehow won't play a game, or they'll have a
no contest in the play a game.

Speaker 3 (22:12):
It's the Jets. Yeah, we leg in U sports.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
Hey, I got a cancers week, I got a very
big wedding and I can't get my assistance to make
the game.

Speaker 3 (22:19):
Can we make it up? Yeah? Sure, you just don't
make it up at the end of the years. I
got that Wednesday.

Speaker 4 (22:23):
You played games on Wednesdays before Uh huh uh huh.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
Now, but look, now there is something that you want
to ask me what I'm afraid of honestly with the Jets.
Oh reality, okay, I'm not this will be good Rogers.
I mean, people just are manufacturing that Rogers is not
good anymore.

Speaker 3 (22:38):
It's like, come on, just.

Speaker 4 (22:38):
Stop, He's just as good. That's a completely different sentence.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
Just don't like the fact that Jets got. Like I said,
if the if the Patriots or the Steelers got, it'll
be what a great move, What a phenomenal move to
go get it, What a good that's.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
What a great Joseph.

Speaker 4 (22:51):
Reality here, it's not like he had fifteen touchdowns fifteen interceptions.
The team was about five hundred last year. But it's
not like he regressed in season that badly.

Speaker 1 (23:01):
Now, But this is honestly what I'm afraid of, because
this is something that's going to keep coming up at
the most inopportune times. When Russell Wilson got traded from
the Seahawks last year, what did we see every few
weeks when when the Broncos would struggle or Russell would
Russell Wilson would struggle, you would get a story sources

(23:22):
Wilson rubbed veterans, the wrong way Wilson had office in Seahawks,
that all these things the old team, Yeah, because the
Seahawks no longer had to protect him because Wilson was
a bit of a diva and a prima.

Speaker 4 (23:35):
Donnelly was their franchise right quarterback. He's not their concern anymore, right.

Speaker 1 (23:39):
So when they don't, when they don't have to protect him,
those stories are going to get out. And they were
really rough, Like how rough was last year for Russell
Wilson in Denver? Incredibly difficult and it was to the
point where you think Russell Wilson has done and can
Sean Payton really bring him back? And is Wilson really
the leader? To the players really like him? Is he
a phony? All the same things We've had the conversation

(23:59):
about Russ Wilson the lasties. Is he really a leader?
Do the players really follow them? How do they feel
about him? Why do the players that are Seahawks players,
Why don't they like him? Why does Richard Sherman keep
saying things about him? Right, all these things have come up,
and that dogs you all the way through and it
dogged him all the way through the season.

Speaker 4 (24:15):
So all Aaron Rodgers has to do is say, let's
ride yeah through every price conference this year.

Speaker 3 (24:19):
But here's the thing for Rogers.

Speaker 1 (24:21):
Rodgers has more time, and he's got more animosity with
the packers who no longer have to protect him. And
of all the crazy behind the scenes things we got
with Russell Wilson, do you really think there's not twenty
times more stories about Aaron Rodgers than there is about
Russell Wilson. Of course there are. You had two and
a half years of Russell Wilson just continually every day

(24:45):
holding it over the Packers' heads that I might leave.
And it's like Russell and almost famous, you weren't gonna quit.
You just hold it over our heads that you might
quit every single day. And you know, the behind the
scenes stuff. The packers can't wait to get out there,
They cannot w and I know that as time goes on,
there's gonna be sources. Rogers did blank blank blank when

(25:06):
he was with the Packers. Rogers Rogers made people, you know,
make pilgrimages to his locker on their hands and knees
and leave trinkets to be able to talk to him.
You know, whatever it's going to be, You're gonna get
those stories. And you're talking about fifteen years of those stories,
going back to two thousand and eight when when he
first came in and started in the league. You got
fifteen years of Aaron Rodgers stories that you're gonna get

(25:26):
from the team, that you're gonna get from people affiliated
with the Packers that are gonna say, hey, don't quote
me on this, but I can be a Packers' source.
You're gonna get it from teammates who play with them
in twenty thirteen, twenty and sixteen, and it's going to
be an avalanche. That's what makes me nervous is because
the Jets are gonna be worried about, Hey, let's break
in Aaron Rodgers. All the entire football world is watching us,

(25:48):
and if he falters, it's gonna be a huge deal
and we're all gonna get fired. But now we got
to deal with this too, because they will have to
deal with those stories as well coming out of it.
I know it, and they're gonna come it in up
for two times. It will coming after a four interception game,
or they're gonna come after a four touchdown game when
things are riding high. That's exactly how it's going to go.

(26:09):
And that's what makes me nervous is are the Jets
now going to be have to fight this battle on
all different sides when these inevitable stories come out.

Speaker 4 (26:17):
So what you're saying is attention, New York Post, do
a little digging. There's a lot there, and make sure
to time the release of your stories. You can become
the headline. I will say with the Wilson and I
think you're correct with Rogers as well. These stories are
gonna come out because there's a lot of meat on
the bone, because these aren't all fabrications. There are stories

(26:37):
to be had. I have no doubt those are going
to come out. Whether they'll come out in the first
couple of months of him as a Jet, who knows
about that. But frankly, some of the stories about pro
athletes past deserve to come out. I can see that happening.
I think that's really good foresight on your part.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
Well, I tell you, I understand, I know what to worry,
I know what to not worry about it.

Speaker 3 (27:00):
I'm not worried about it, and it's New York worried
about this.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
Yeah, Look, I mean, what's gonna happen when he decides
I'm not talking today, guys, but I'm going on Pat
McAfee show on Tuesday.

Speaker 3 (27:08):
Wait, wait, you don't talk to the New York Post
on Monday.

Speaker 1 (27:11):
You're talking to Pat McAfee on Tuesday, making whoa whoa.

Speaker 3 (27:14):
Yeah, I mean that's yeah, that's.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
Gonna be that not well received. Yeah, no, no, no
telling you this stuff like that makes me nervous. But
it doesn't matter what he does. If he's if he's
a good version of Aaron Rodgers, it makes no difference
because the Jets are gonna be really good and it's
gonna be a great stay. There's nothing that can happen
that can that can push this out right kind of
how I look right now at the Knicks, right is that?

(27:36):
Look how good things are right now? They're three, They're
three game to one lead over over the Cleveland Cavaliers.

Speaker 3 (27:41):
Looks huge. What's the big deal? Is Julius Randall happy? Right?

Speaker 1 (27:45):
He was bench for the entire fourth quarter there Game
four win. He's still trying to work his way back
from his ankle injury, but he was able to play
healthy enough to play.

Speaker 3 (27:53):
Then he sat on the bench for.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
The fourth quarter that in years past, I would say
that's gonna be a killer, because you know he's gonna
come out, he's gonna say how he's not happy. He
could sulk. We've seen it with Julius Randall before. But
now it doesn't matter because without him they could still win,
and you watch them, so it doesn't matter. As long
as they can still win, they can deal with all
the other stuff that comes off the court with them.

Speaker 3 (28:16):
Same thing for the Jets.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
As long as the Jets are winning and Aaron Rodgers
is winning, everybody's gonna love him. It's if the Jets
are four and seven and he's going on Pat McAfee
on Tuesday, and I blew off Steve Serby for an
interview on Monday, where Okay, now I'm gonna do some
digging and call some guys in Green Bay. Guess what
story I got about you, Aaron in What's gonna be
your only year in New York? So that's what makes

(28:38):
me nervous. That's it.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
Oh, wait, only year in New York.

Speaker 4 (28:41):
So then they're gonna have to work out some sort
of contract thing in advance before they ever listen.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
Listen, if they're four and seven, guess who's not playing
sixty five percent of the plays. There's gonna be a
bean counter following Joe Douglass around with every play going. Okay,
now he's a fifty six point eight percent. Fifty six
point nine percent. Oh, fifty six point six percent. He
came out, he had to change his helmet. Fifty six
point seven, sixty two point three. All right, we get

(29:06):
to sixty four point four. That's what that's we cut
off right there? Cut it off right there?

Speaker 3 (29:10):
Does it cast the math? That's wrong. No, if the
Jets are bad, he's gonna sit.

Speaker 4 (29:13):
And that's where being for Aaron Rodgers with a mild
hamstring strain, you know, which.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
Tells you that what he has to deal with is
that you look at the fact that the Jets are
not gonna want to make this a first round pick
if the Jets stink. Right, So let's just say this.
Let's say the Jets are bad. Let's say Aaron Rodgers
isn't any good and the Jets are bad and they're faltering,
and this is gonna be a big pick. The end
of Aaron Rodgers' career is gonna end with him on
the bench and not playing.

Speaker 3 (29:38):
And it's gonna be awful and it's gonna be ugly.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
So you tell me if that's something Aaron Rodgers isn't
gonna sign up for, knowing that that's not gonna be
my year. If that was a possibility, he would say
forget it, forget it, forget it, forget it. But you
know how, I feel good with the confidence he has
the Jets have saying, yeah, sixty five percent of the
plays if he plays, and that second round pick next
year turns into first round pick. I think they feel

(30:01):
pretty good at what they're gonna get from Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 4 (30:03):
I hope he wise's up and realizes this is his
only option. It's not I'm Aaron Rodgers. Now, this is
your only option to play the sport right now?

Speaker 1 (30:14):
You know the because he actually, if he really wanted out,
his time to get out was after the second MVP,
and it was the loss in the NFC Championship game
at home when you have to realize we're not getting
I mean, really, we're done.

Speaker 3 (30:28):
This team is done.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
We lost at home to the forty nine ers, and yes,
I probably should have put more points up and people
are gonna blame me, but I'm coming off an MVP.

Speaker 4 (30:36):
Sir, Yeah, forty nine ers who did nothing on offense
that night.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
That was even though you're coming off of that game,
that's when you have to say, okay, I've gone as
far as I can in Green Bay, and that's when
you could have picked your destination. You're coming off of
two MVPs. If you would push for a trade, then okay,
then you would have feared. But he waited too long,
and now he had a year where okay, it's the
Jets or nothing, right, because that's what it was. It
was the Jets or nobody for the long time for Rogers.

(31:01):
So because he didn't do that, he didn't have as
many suitors. The time to go, I know, was coming
off a high point and it would have been difficult
and he would have fought the pr battle of fans
not liking while you want out now after.

Speaker 3 (31:11):
The NFC Championship.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
Yeah, but that was really the point where you have
to see, this team has gone as far as they can.
They're not going We're not going any further. And if
we can't win the NFC Championship game at home on
a frozen field when it snows against a team that
doesn't play in the snow, that plays in northern California.

Speaker 3 (31:28):
When are we gonna win?

Speaker 1 (31:29):
So that's where that's the one mistake he made was
not pushing for his leverage there because he had much
more after that one didn't have it.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
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Speaker 3 (31:43):
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Speaker 3 (31:51):
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(32:48):
the Lakers. The Lakers just haven't looked great tonight. But
again we're still late in the third quarter, still have
a long time to go. But Anthony Davis game has
one basket one and Ruey Hachimora for some reason has
played eight minutes, Like what is happening?

Speaker 4 (33:02):
What's going on seeing him in the last week.

Speaker 1 (33:04):
Starvin Ham's still coaching the team or what what's going on?
But while this has happened, and clearly this series much
closer and much more tilted towards the Lakers, anybody would
would would have predicted before this. You know, with every
year that goes by Steve, the regular season in the
NBA gets a little.

Speaker 3 (33:22):
Bit more irrelevant.

Speaker 1 (33:23):
We once we got to the play in tournament, true
teams went from I don't like the play in tournament
too well, if we struggle have a bad regular season,
all we got to do is get into the play
in tournament and win a game. If we finished seventh
or eighth, we have two chances to win one game
we get in, and I like our chances against other teams.

Speaker 3 (33:39):
Like the Lakers.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
Yeah, exactly. And that's the thing is that with every
year gets more and more relevant. But then, especially this year,
when you look at the playoff performances so far for
the Bucks and the Grizzlies and the Kings, the Heat,
the Warriors, the Lakers, and the Knicks, it reinforces how

(34:01):
irrelevant the regular season is, and it doesn't really give
you a true gauge of how good teams really are
because Jimmy Butler in the Heat, they kind of sleepwalk
through the regular season. Look, Jimmy Butler, you're telling me
a guy can't score more than twenty a game. I mean,
it's just who he's been throughout his career. But you
get to the playoffs, Jimmy Butler steps it up. But
we see all kinds of surprising playoff performances, like no

(34:23):
one would have thought the Bucks are gonna be down
three to one even without missing Giannis a couple of
games Giannis came back tonight and he played, but it
wasn't enough. Right, No one thought the grizzliesould be down
like this to the Lakers. They came into the playoffs
like a house of fire in the second seed. The
Kings had an unbelievable regular season. Now all they can
handle with the Warriors, who were very underachieving, couldn't win
on the road. Where the worst teams in the NBA

(34:46):
on the road, And suddenly now here they are right
in the thick of this series. The Knicks weren't going
to be any good that we're gonna go home here
they are up three to one in the first round
of the playoffs, and sunny boy, the Knicks are a lot
better than we thought. And the Lakers in control of
this series right now and worst are gonna go back
to Memphis with with with a two to two series.
So you know, it just gets the point where now

(35:06):
you watch these teams play and nothing is surprising, and
and the in the NBA playoffs now the Seeds being
seated at the top mean less and less, and and
and the NBA has got to do something to make
the regular season be worth a little bit more because
everybody's starting to see this, and and and fans are
gonna start seeing it, and suddenly NBA games are not
gonna be as much see as they are because well, yeah,

(35:28):
the playoffs will be huge, everybody will watch, but regular season.
They gotta find some way to make the regular season
worth more.

Speaker 4 (35:34):
And the players don't take the regular season seriously. Some
of them quite obviously. But it's what I hate. The
aspect I hate about expanded playoffs in general, and what
I've loved about college football is that some big matchup
during the regular season has for decades really meant something.
And the more we expand the playoffs, the less that
will mean. It'll be fun, but it won't mean quite

(35:55):
as much as it did before Baseball expanded the playoffs.
Last year and in the National League the two worst
playoff teams were your National League pennant. One of those
two was gonna win the pennant that was the matchup NLCS.

Speaker 3 (36:07):
Yeah, eighty seven and eighty three wins, and suddenly, hey,
here we are. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
It's I always said the seasons have gotten too long,
and cutting back would always be but of course there's
money to the day. It's not gonna yeah, but you
got to figure out a way to make the regular
season worth a little bit more, because now you're getting
the point where.

Speaker 4 (36:22):
I know, in tournament, let's let's have it an end
season tournament.

Speaker 1 (36:26):
Let's have everybody playing. You gotta play in what what
what all? The one one to the end of the conference.
Everybody's got to play it. Figure out a way, Twitter
it out about a fresca. The Jason Smith Show with
Mike Carmon Steve in for Harmon. We got more from
the NBA and more on the biggest NFL story of
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