April 29, 2023 • 42 mins
Jason Smith and Mike Harmon discuss the Lakers dominating win over the Grizzlies to eliminate them and recap todays NFL Draft. and long time friend of the show Jason Cole joins the guys!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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This is the best of The Jason Smith Show with
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Speaker 3 (00:29):
Disregard everything that open just said. The Lakers are bleeping back.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
That might be my favorite open ever. I don't know.
I don't know that there's a better open than that.
That really encapsulizes who all of us are as people.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
It's like I can answ some truth to that. Oh
God out truth to that one. Oh no, no, there's
truth to.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
That One's no truth to it though, right Dad.
Speaker 5 (00:52):
Two of you guys recalled generational talents for crying out.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Wow, yeah, that's true. They got that part of me,
right yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
But for Allsburg is last one in, first one out
really because shocker, because I've seen the beat you guys
here to the studio tonight, So.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
First one out.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
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Speaker 1 (01:25):
I like the Tysons generational talent, but has a low
football That's okay.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Talent because I'm here without it.
Speaker 5 (01:31):
He's got all of the other skills, just like Aaron
Rodgers talent.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
He's low talented, but he's got low IQ. Why are
you ripping on that?
Speaker 1 (01:39):
You listen, dude, this has been a week of you
taking the l because Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
A week is over. It's come to an end, America.
We're still There's no more Jets talk.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
We're doing a show tonight, are we. It's it's over
all about it. It's all about it, all about it.
Welcome inside. It is the Jason Smith Show with my
best friend Mike Carmon.
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Speaker 1 (02:01):
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the Draft and the NBA playoffs going on.
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Speaker 1 (02:25):
He is a very underrated day on the sports calendar.
It's a very underrated day because Day two of the
NFL dred, Day one of the draft. It's really all
about the draft and everything else gets its secondary nature right,
Like we had we had a NBA playoff game yesterday.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
People don't even know what happened. There was a game.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
Yesterday, know, and that's just that they woke up today.
It's like, wait, the Celtics advanced. Wait, what's going on?
Speaker 4 (02:50):
Boss? What really they did? I we be paying attention.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
But today, you know, we talk about the first two
days of the NCAA tournament with all that stuff going on.
But today, which is the second and third rounds of
the NFL Draft, big time NBA playoff games, a full
slate of Major League baseball. This is a pretty big
day because the draft is still a very front and
center topic, but obviously it shares with the NBA playoffs.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
We have two huge games tonight. One going on right now.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Sacramento is on top of Golden State eighty four seventy
three Warriors.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Looking for the closer at home. But so far for
Golden State they have not been on the right end
of things, not shooting well from three Klay Thompson's got
twenty two. Meanwhile, dearon Fox, broken finger doesn't matter. He's
got seventeen, Murray's got fourteen and eleven. It has been
a big night for Sacramento eleven point lead despite the
fact they're getting nothing and have got nothing from Sabonis,
(03:44):
who's got seven points on three to ten, shooting the
Kings on the road with an eleven point lead late
in the third quarter.
Speaker 5 (03:50):
Sabonis also has five fouls. Now, I want to go back.
You mentioned baseball, and I was having a nice conversation
with my brother today about you know, his his tickets
and go into games and where it's already you know,
venomous at home and now you're playing the.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Race White Sox lose again.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
I have had so long as there have been notifications
allowed on phones notifications for the starting lineups, scoring updates
and everything for the White Sox. I'm at the level
of depression with this squad that I'm thinking, after all
these years, I may actually turn the notifications off because everyone.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
What the hell has happened early this time?
Speaker 5 (04:32):
When am I going to get the one that comes
with the larger badge to say you lose again, which.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
Just hit my phone a few minutes ago. So it's tough.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
It's tough already April hasn't even ended, and I'm throwing
the damn towel like.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
I'm duke man.
Speaker 5 (04:49):
It's like Hendricks, get healthy so we can trade you.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
You get healthy, so we can trade you. Tim Anderson
get healthy so we can trade you.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Well, hey, listen, before we get into the that is,
we do have this note from Major League Baseball because surprise.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
Jacob de Gram, who.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Was rolling through tonight against the New York Yankees, left
his start with two outs in the fourth inning. After
giving up his first hit, he threw a fastball that
went outside for a ball he reached for his left side.
He threw another pitch that was lined for a single
to left field. De Gram started limping. They come out
to the mound and Jacob de Gram is removed from
(05:26):
the game yet again. This is the he was started
Opening Day. He left his fourth start of the year
with a sore right wrist after he threw four hitless innings.
Made his next start here he is again hurt and
coming out and who knows what it is with his
left side when he's gonna come back.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
This is This has been.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
The last three years of Jacob de Gram in a nutshell,
you know, four innings of one hit ball, but he
comes out with an injury that this is this is
kind of what it is.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
And he he just has not been able to as
his career has gone on.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
And I don't know if a lot of it is you,
but he switched to become a pitcher later in his career.
Is a shortstop when he went to Stets into college
and then became a you know, then this guy goes
from being a shortstop becoming the best pitcher in Major
League Baseball.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
But here he is now. You know, he's thirty four.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
He still seems like a young guy because he's not
even been in the league a decade. Remember, he doesn't
come up till he's twenty six, twenty seven years old,
and so now here's someone who has come up and
thrown not a lot of innings, but become a full
time pitcher, and he has not made more than fifteen
starts in a season since twenty nineteen.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
You know, So it's it's just really really difficult.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
It's a shame because the guy, the guy is a
generational talent. But at this point, when when when the
Mets didn't sign him in the off seat, he wanted
to go to Texas, I said, boy, I'm gonna miss him,
but I really I really couldn't.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Say I could have used him tonight.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
I real well, they only played five innings night before
they got rained down.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
It's still a loss.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
Game was fixed.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
I really, I just it's really hard for me to
watch this and see that. You know, here's a guy
who is that great and is so dominant, so good,
but he can't stay on the field. And at this point,
when you're thirty four and you haven't made more than
fifteen starts in a year in four years, is it
really gonna get better? I mean, I gotta be realistic, right,
I gotta be really Is it really gonna get better?
Speaker 4 (07:11):
For de Gram?
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Is he gonna be somebody that can Suddenly he's gonna
pitch twenty five thirty starts. I mean really, I mean
twelve starts is really his over under for the season.
I mean, who knows what this is gonna be.
Speaker 5 (07:21):
Yeah, it's a tough bet because it starts to look
like a lot of what we've been talking about in
these NBA playoffs, between load management and being battle ready.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
When the heavy, strenuous.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
Minutes are there, right, Because you may play a lot
of minutes in the regular season, they don't always have
that weight on them. Playoff minutes are a different animal, right,
They age you quick. And look at Lebron the other night,
even though the Lakers are back, as Frostburg says, and
he's already sent me that chain wearing, greasy Lakers guy repeatedly,
I think something stuck on his phone.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
You wish you were that guy.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
Well, he's probably very well off and sitting around counting
his moneies, which would be good.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
I'd like that role.
Speaker 5 (08:05):
But I look at all that we talked about with
Kawhi Leonard and other players, and you look at de
Gram and it's like, all right, we're gonna get him.
We talked about this a couple of years ago with
Clayton Kershaw, and when he's great, he's great. But if
you're banking on anything more than what is it twenty
two starts, I think is the max he's had the
last couple of years. That's it, which is two thirds
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of a season. That's fine as long as he's ready
to play and pitch in September and October. But for
Jacob de Gram, you just hit that point where it's
another and a long laundry list and pick your.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
Sport of guys that have dazzled us.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
And then just like that, the stage curtain drops, right,
someone forgot to anchor the sandbags and it throws the
curtain back down.
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So we'll keep an eye on what's going on in
major League Baseball. Yes we got we got the big
game between the Kings and the Warriors. But very early
tonight the wait for Will Levis ended. The Tennessee Titans
training up drafting Will Levis, who we watched twenty nine times.
(09:31):
They cut away to him last night thirty seven. There,
shut up, there's Will Levis. He's in the green room.
He's in the green room. His sister is laughing on
her phone. Let's go to Will Levis again. We told
you last night it was gonna end pretty quickly. For
two main reasons. Will Levis is a really good quarterback.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
He fell. It happens, quarterbacks fall. But now Will Levis
went from being hey, he's a really good player, he's falling.
And because once you get past a certain pick in
the first out of the draft, you're not going to
see quarterbacks for a while.
Speaker 6 (10:02):
Right.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
It's not like, boy, everybody you know thirty.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Two teams passed, and once you get past the early
teams in the draft, hey, no one's going to take
a quarterback for a while. And so we have that
happen and he falls. But the main reason is now
Will Levis becomes a bargain because he's now a second
round player that's going to be on a really rookie
friendly contract. And if will Levis is terrific, Hey, look
(10:25):
at the Eagles on a second round deal for Jalen Hurts.
They went to the super Bowl last year, right, So
if you hit it big on a quarterback in the
second round, yeah, that can really help you. He went
from being a really good player who've thought he'd be
the second overall pick, maybe even first, that's what it was.
But the fact that he went from being a player
who was good, boy, he's falling.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
Oh what's going on to? You want to stay away fromhim?
What's going on to? Now?
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Wait a minute, the guy's a bargain because I can
trade up get him in the second round. And I
love Tennessee making this move because they realize that boy
Malik Willis just struggled way too much to think he
can do it. So now they go out and get
a guy who can be their quarterback going forward. I
love the pickup. I love that Levis gets there. It's
a great destination for him.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
And now I'm seeing that I can see Ryan Tannehill
on a different team, because how many reps do you
have for a guy? Are you really gonna let go
Malik Willis you took in the first round last year.
Somebody's got a play. Are you really gonna go to?
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Ryan Tannhill saw I got a feeling he might be
the next guy that Hey, make a couple of phone calls,
he might be available.
Speaker 5 (11:25):
I've been kind of waiting for that to be the case,
long rumored. So with will Levis, the talk is, you know,
he's that kind of guy for Vrabel that get along
with Well, a lot of conjecture today of what actually
was going on with them. Well, we went back and
some teams weren't enamored with their meetings, Others didn't like
(11:46):
some things they saw on tape. Others talked about his toe.
We got into that a little bit last night. But
in terms of coming off the board, Joey Porter Junior,
a great story goes to Pittsburgh and then we get
Will Levis off and you have an opportunity here with
the second round contract. As you mentioned, it's the expectation
(12:08):
spotlight all of that stuff again, stuff we talked about
yesterday for those that missed the big post first round
show that we did talking about, you know, expectations of
coming in if they do nothing with Tannehill, then he
sits and learns. If he's able to come in and
acclimate quickly and in the camps, then yeah, maybe maybe
(12:31):
there's a quick, quick trigger and he's there week one,
And if so, then you've got the clock is talking
about shorter tenure. Right, you don't get that fifth year,
but you're not paying him as much and you have
the opportunity for him to go and play because the
expectations are going to be much different. The spotlight's going
to fade now that he got picked. The fact that
(12:54):
he didn't go, I think rubbed a lot of people
the wrong way. I would have set a cardboard cutout,
I think to be be a smart ass about it.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
It's like, no, there was I.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
Was there in spirit and then he didn't even get
into his front door.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Yeah you see that girlfriend, Hey, e's easy from what
this isn't TMZ?
Speaker 4 (13:12):
Come on, man, what are.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
You talking about. That's the only reason the cameras were
on Wow.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
There was a lot of speculation that you know, by
the end of the night might have just said, you
know what, this isn't gonna work.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
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Speaker 4 (14:21):
In the NFL draft, we are closing in on the
end of the third round. Meanwhile, in the NBA, the
Lakers have just tipped off in front of Jack Nicholson
and and Fanos and everybody. I just saw the greatest gmntage. Buddy,
(14:42):
you did buddy, Yeah, what'd you see? Update?
Speaker 5 (14:45):
What what you got? Because you added Thanos Stanos actually there? Well,
if Jack Nicholson's there, you know, Thanos is probably right
because I just saw Will Arnett, so some version of
Batman there Will And uh, why.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Do you got to bring Marvel into everything?
Speaker 4 (15:02):
Man? Wow? You really you gotta do it, like you
gotta sell that, man.
Speaker 6 (15:06):
I like that.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
That was low key though, like he was just playing
the bass. Yeah, dude, now you did that like I
really didn't feel like doing it.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
That sounded just like normally you should be very excited
about that, like if I said nickelback.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Oh my god, look at this phoneograb.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
That wasn't half bad. Actually, see that was better than
just you're half hearted. No, no, no, don't encourage it, Mike.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
That's how he sounds though.
Speaker 6 (15:31):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
Time out on the floor at the Crypt, Lakers lead
the Grizzlies fourteen to nine. Lakers looking for the close out,
which would put them into the NBA Finals against the Knicks.
So if the Lakers win this game, we go right
to Nick Lakers for the NBA Finals.
Speaker 5 (15:47):
I think many NBA executives over there in New York
would love to pass some sort of resolution as if
they were members of Congress to be able to pull
that off.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Who says, no, right, but we lose allgain No, no, no,
you make it like a best eleven out of twenty one.
It's out fine, We're gonna play this series for the
next month and a half.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
Nicks Lakers every single we can't be doing make goods
to advertisers. That's a good.
Speaker 5 (16:09):
Bad But they did best eleven of twenty one. That
becomes a all right? Which is the load management game? Oh,
lots of games are load Man. If you're up, like,
if you're up like four to one, you got load
managed with the next come.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
Yeah, they took really nights. We're really we're tired. Uh
so Lakers again.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Lead there in front of Jack Nicholson, who is at
the game for the first time in almost two years.
Uh Nicholson's at the game. Just turned eighty six. He's
got purple pants on. Kind of awesome. He's taking pictures
with people. He did a picture with jobstud He's doing
all these things.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
Man, it's it's it's a big Jack Nicholson night. That's
like an homage to me.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Purple shorts though.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Yeah, yeah, we hear purple pants. You know, I've never
seen you wear purple pants, just purple shorts.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
Oh, I'll wear them next week.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
You have purple pants, really, of course, and you've not.
I've known you for nine years, you've not worn purple pants.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
I often don't wear pants.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Okay, that's true, but there are it does get cold
in the winter, there is sometimes, you know, the last
of those are usually some nice sweatpants or yeah, or maybe,
but I would think that would be the that would
be the top of your pants rotation, your purple it
would be'd be right at the top, it would be.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
Yeah, yeah, we'll.
Speaker 5 (17:19):
Make sure to add that back in. Rather, it's going
to be ninety five degrees here.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
And sure, I've never seen a pair with an ass
in them.
Speaker 5 (17:25):
You know what, I didn't say there was an ass
in them. They're a pant like product.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Meanwhile, the other big game tonight, well really entertaining first
round series, and after the way Game five went, I'm sure,
MANI bules at all this is now gonna end. The
Warriors are going home. I told you when the Kings
are up to zip. The series is going seven and
it's gonna wind up being can the Kings win a
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game with the pressure of the entire basketball world on them,
And can the Warriors win a game on the road
when they're terrible? And this is where we, Doug Kings
are gonna go, oh no, now the Warriors got no.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
Now the King's that.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Now the Warriors. We are going to Game seven after
the Kings beat the Warriors one eighteen ninety nine. De
Aaron Fox, who is becoming an absolute superstar. Look, he's
the breakout player of the NBA playoffs right now. Look,
Jalen Brunson, we knew how great he was, great what
he's doing with the Knicks, But Jalen Brunson's had a
little bit of run. He does play for the Knicks
after all. But d' Aaron Fox is a guy who
(18:24):
came out remember the big We thought there would be
a big darn Fox le Lonzo ball rivalry and he
has become an absolute stud. Twenty six eleven and four
rebounds a night to lead the Kings to victory over
Golden State. And honestly, in this game, I mean, look,
doing the show and watching it, but you know, what
do I know about basketball? But I saw one team
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that had a lot more jump and looked a lot
fresher and the other team that looked like they were
stuck a little bit. We're hoping to hit some threes
and get back in this. The Warriors just didn't look
like they had the life that the Kings had in
this game. And the Kings ran all over the floor
around them. You know, they shot forty percent.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
From the floor.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
They were better at every aspect of the game than
Golden State. Wasn't the fact that we got to the
fourth quarter in Golden State the Kings pulled away for
this tree.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
They didn't just survive and go, oh, you know, we
went a nail bier by three, They pulled away to
win by twenty and send this thing to game seven.
I mean, the longer series go on for veteran players
and veteran teams, the harder it gets to win. And
that's what the Warriors are fighting out right now.
Speaker 5 (19:27):
Well, it goes one way or the other, right either
the championship medal. Right, the history informs it, which is
what has been the I guess tagline for the way
this series was anticipated was that the Kings would eventually
shrink away, and as we go to Game seven, Warriors
were seven and a half point favorites tonight to close
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it out and got absolutely boat raced at home.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
They missed exactly.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
They missed ten free throws, including a couple from Steph.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
He went six of.
Speaker 5 (20:02):
Nine from the fall line, stopped the presses that may
have never happened and may never happened again, but he
had some struggles. I'm sure every one of the players
will need to write a check to the league because
I'm sure they're going to complain about officiating. There were
a number of instances that left me scratching my head, going,
that's not a fil what are we doing. I know
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playoff rules are a little bit different, but hey, here
we go one eighteen ninety nine, your final. They get
absolutely pasted. Nineteen turnovers. Yes, Sacramento matched them in that column,
but not all turnovers in sequencing are created equal. So
just a pretty dismal effort all around. A lot of
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shots coming up short on the rim or just some
bad possessions. Although for a while look like the t
Wolves were going to do everything they could to give
it back. They had that idiotic play at the end
of the third quarter where they rolled the ball into
play and the Warriors got down and stole it.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
Oh, how about we just let's not worry about the
clock so much. Right, let's make sure that doesn't mark.
Speaker 5 (21:08):
Right, it's like thirty eight seconds left. You know we
could get that. It's like, no play basketball. That's what
built you the lead. Don't do anything dumb to open
the door.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
You know, you know, you know what.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
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Speaker 3 (21:35):
Slash match, is it the next losing in the second round?
Speaker 6 (21:37):
No?
Speaker 4 (21:37):
Come on, the Knicks are great? Is that after every game?
Speaker 6 (21:42):
Right?
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Because we're in the hot take society that we've been in,
and look, I like a hot take as much as
anybody else. I'm digging that. But this series, specifically this
King's Warrior series, this is gone depending on who wins
the game. The overwhelming narrative is come the Kings and
they're being disrespected. But then the Warriors win the next game,
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and it's the Warriors save their season. Look at the champs,
like they're going to the Western Conference finals. It's two
to two, it's three too now it's three three, and
they're going. But every game it's like, oh, what can
I say?
Speaker 4 (22:17):
How can I go completely opposite of what the take was,
what the overwhelming consensus was following the last game, and
do it? Here?
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Oh the war Look at the Warriors, Look at they're champions.
Everybody's underestimating them. Guess what, they can still go home
in the first round, right, it's not like they've won
three rounds of playoffs. We're getting ready for the conference finals,
and it's oh, look at Golden State, look what they did. Yeah,
if the Warriors get to the conference finals, I can
look back and all right, look at what they did.
We th had them buried, and look at what they
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were able to do. They couldn't win a game at
home away from home most of the year. They won
a couple at the end of the year, and look
at what they did in the playoffs. Things have bounced
their way and they got through and they galvanized themselves
behind Draymond Green suspension, and here they are the Western
Conference Finals. But everything I just said, people are saying
after game five of the first round of the players, are.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
You new here? Look at what they're dumb like, you
got it? Come on, man, you gotta be kidding me.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
You really save all your you know, save your big
hot take, you know, exclamation points when a team actually
wins a series, and at least you have a couple
of days of being able to pat yourself on the back, right, Like, look,
I had to wait. I knew the Knicks were great.
I knew the Knicks were gonna beat the crap out
of the Cavs. I told you before the series Nixon four, Oh,
the Knicks one and five? Okay, big deal. But when
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did I start honking it up about the Knicks after
they closed them out?
Speaker 6 (23:35):
Right?
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Because every game, every game is not its own book.
In a series, you can't just say, oh, they're up
to one, it looks like this series is over. They'll
win the next one, they'll be in the finals. Yes,
let's talk about how they're back to being the champions.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
No, they're not.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
The Warriors can still go out in the first round,
and then the storyline is the end of the Warriors.
Dynasty with everybody back and everybody healthy, and here's everybody,
and they can't get out of the first round of
the playoffs against Sacramento, a series that everybody wanted to
hand to them at to be an oh gold Golden state.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
Look at that.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
They're they're the champs. They won some they won four titles.
Sacramento's really good, but they're new to the playoffs. They're
gonna wilt under pressure. The Warriors will be able to
use that champions mentality and take a game away from
home and win everything at home. Well, yeah, they won
a game away from home and they gave it back tonight.
And the Kings were the best team out there when
the Warriors are going for a closer. So getting me
stop a little bit with the all. Look at the Warriors.
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I know that people want to say great things about
them all the time. They always want to say great
things about Steph and Clay and what a great leader
Draymond is, even when he's being a knucklehead and deserves
a suspension. But I really want to say good things
about No say accurate things. The accurate thing is the
era of the Warriors could be over in one more game.
It could continue, but it could be over in one
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more games. So let's realize that's kind of where things are.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
Boy, it's like you just started in sports talk radio.
Speaker 5 (24:56):
I know this wild pendulum has been there for every
but have you not paid attention when some of the
stories business it's the last couple of weeks, the coming out.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
But it's only in the NBA playoffs where every game
it's I need to say something really intelligent and and
and cut through about the NBA, about these two games
last and intelli, what can I possibly say?
Speaker 4 (25:19):
Right? Like, it's easy to do it during the NFL.
C is easy to do because teams play once a week. Right,
it's teams play once a week.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Right, It's hard to do in the NBA players when
it's every other game and it's such a big deal
for one game. And how do I find what to say?
I'm gonna give a team a championship after they're up
to one in the first round.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
You just take whoever's playing the Jets.
Speaker 5 (25:36):
I would say that's the one thing that helps, going
back to your analogy, is that in the NBA and
and it makes the work a little harder unless they
have the Arian Foster script is that It's not like
a certain book series where it was always oh again,
it was the professor that was supposed to help us
against the dark arts.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
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Speaker 1 (26:07):
Joining us now on the hotline. No one better to
break down a draft that has been very good so
far than Jason Cole, longtime NFL insider. Check him out
on Twitter at Jason Cole sixty two. Also can check
him out on out kick with his latest and of
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course he is a Hall of very Good voter. Most
of his books have now been written by AI. We
found that out as well. But he's joined us now.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
One.
Speaker 6 (26:38):
It makes things easier. Hes go faster when you're right
with AI. Okay, it's natural, Yeah, right, he's Yeah, there's
been a very good draft. It's a very very good draft.
Good for you, Smith. This is the greatest draft of
(27:02):
Jets history. I will say that, right. Sure, we got
a great draft week.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Yes, we got Aaron Rodgers. We got a guy named
McDonald because I love McDonald's. It doesn't get any better
than this.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
Is that?
Speaker 6 (27:15):
Did you draft Norm McDonald's kid or something like that.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
We we did. We we drafted to McDonald again. Uh
you know, thirty five years after he played that.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
We drafted McDonalds. Yes, dude, how much of my loving life.
Rogers is all saying all the best things. New York,
He's working out and Jets gear. Already I wanted to
be a Jet. It was the Jets and nobody.
Speaker 6 (27:39):
You're great, You're the You're that, You're that guy who
was basically, who is that crazy looking dude with the
hair who wore the belt in the first Insurance adds
with him, you're that guy, Hey, Rock, that's who you
are right now, That's exactly who you are. Rogers and
(28:02):
they got the belt on the whole thing. Every week
you're gonna scream at least once Rogers.
Speaker 5 (28:11):
He's been doing it all week. J Cole and I
got to say, going into the draft, I was a
bit disappointed that both the Rogers and Lamar Jackson's situations
were resolved before the commissioner came out to get booed.
I was really hoping we'd have some more drama.
Speaker 6 (28:26):
Well, actually, the NFL was quite happy with it, since
they didn't have to talk about tampering. But yeah, that's
a whole different thing. You know.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
Now they wouldn't talk about it anyway. Nothing to see here.
Speaker 6 (28:37):
Yeah, just everybody walk away Rogers contra everybody walking Antonio
Brown crazy. Well, that's normal, we do that every week.
I thought, Look, the Rogers thing, we all knew that
was going to happen. The Lamar Jackson thing, I'm not
surprised at because he eventually had to get something.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Done and they needed you know, they needed to get.
Speaker 6 (29:00):
It done too, because they had to make a decision. Okay,
are we doing the one year deal with him or
are we going to this draft where we have to
think about taking one of these quarterbacks in the second
or third round or maybe even the first depending on
how things look. They have a really important decision to make,
and so you know, ultimately he's got to get done.
As we all found out, Lamar had no leverage to
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get anything better than what he's basically been offered for
the last year and a half, which you know, there's
nothing that needs that likes one hundred and eighty six
million dollars. You know, that's a heck of a contract
and has paid quarterback for now. You know, I mean,
in about two weeks, Patrick Mahome, you're going to redo
his deal and you know he'll be at fifty three
(29:42):
or whatever the number has to be. But you know,
fifty plus million and one hundred and eighty six eight.
You know, he's got generational wealth. Now everything's taken care of.
He can even you know, afford to put Antonio Brown
on the contract, on the payroll himself, you know, if maybe.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
And that was my big thing today, J Cole is
that like this is where like the new Twitter has
really upset me because it took me five minutes to
try to figure out is Antonio Brown or Raven or not?
Like I don't know, like he tweets out in a
Jersey Okay, he obviously signed there, but then I got
to try to find it and seems to and it
takes me five minutes to find out.
Speaker 6 (30:20):
Because new Twitter is is is to all? And what
the joke hadn't started fast enough for you?
Speaker 4 (30:25):
I like the he just liked his blue check marks.
Speaker 5 (30:29):
Now that that has become a wild West in that regard,
he feels a bit lost.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
Now I gotta look and see it. Who has it
is this is? You know, does somebody have it does.
Are the Ravens tweet? No, they haven't. All right, what
about Blazer? What about Jefter?
Speaker 3 (30:42):
You know?
Speaker 6 (30:43):
Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope nope. Abe is all alone
on this one, much as he is on pretty much
everything that's going on in his.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
Life right now.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Hey, no, I know one big thing you were hot
on on the draft. You were not hot on Will
Levis leaving the draft. You even you even said you
would wait till you would have waited till a third
round a draft at this point.
Speaker 6 (31:07):
Oh absolutely. I mean, look, things are going to get
really ugly here during your career, right You're going to
have bad days. If you think this is such a
bad day that you can't show up for the next round,
I got a problem with your mental forty two to
answer this scheme, Like, you know, I remember Dan Marino.
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You know, the story is about Marino from his rookie year.
Not that I covered that year, but you know, from
his rookie year where he threw like three interceptions in
a game or it was it was eighty four. Don
Strock was his backup, and Marina's coming off the field.
He thinks he sucks. It's awful he's thrown three ind ficks.
You know there's something's gone wrong here. His confidence is lost,
(31:51):
and he walks in and Strock looks at him and goes, man,
that really sucked. Yeah. I think this is a teammate
telling him like, hey, welcome to the NFL, Like the
other guys are really good. Okay, So if you're not
ready for that, and again, if you're not ready for
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the fact that, oh, poor baby, you didn't go in
the first round and you can't show up for the
second day, I got a problem with you. I really do.
And I think there's plenty of talent there and all
these other things, and you know, for whatever reason he felt,
you know, I've heard no legitimate reason. And the toe
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thing just sounds silly to me. That would have come
out weeks ago. Sorry, you know, like people would have
floated that a long time ago. But you know, like,
hang in there, dude. I mean, I will say this,
I don't understand, Tennessee, if you're going to trade up
for him on day two, why didn't you do that
(32:53):
at the end of day one, where you know, you
moved up a couple more spots and you would have
had control of the kid for that fifth year. Yeah,
like that was a that's a bad strategic move. You
should have done that. I mean, you're not going Kansas
is not going to help you, clearly with the last pick.
But there were a couple of the teams at the
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end of the end of the first round where you
could have snuck up and taken you know, you could
have taken Levis there. If you're going to take him
at where they take him at thirty four, you should
take them at you know, thirty or thirty one or
twenty nine, whatever you got to do.
Speaker 5 (33:28):
See, we talked about it from the Lewis side of
why this was good for him, and now we get
you know, the balance put out here Jason Cole with
us here Hall of Fame.
Speaker 6 (33:37):
Oh, I think it's great. Yeah, I will say this.
I think it's a good location for Levis. Yeah, oh yeah,
as long as they keep Derrick Henry and don't do
something stupid and trade him. I mean that's a terrific
place to be.
Speaker 5 (33:49):
That would have been done already, right right, No, uh,
never know, well speak of doing something stupid and out
of the order. Just what last night, I you know,
the world stopped as it looked like Houston actually worked
with some competency. Yeah, you might not like the compensation
going back to go go get Anderson, but it looked
(34:11):
like they actually had some football acumen in the room
and some direction and purpose for the first time in
a while.
Speaker 4 (34:17):
Jacole.
Speaker 6 (34:18):
Yeah, it also looks like to me, an argument where
the head coach was sitting here saying, I want Anderson
no matter what, that's my guy, that's the guy I
want to build around, which is a perfectly legitimate thing
to do if you're Nika Ryans, right, and why are
we you know, like he probably stood on a table
and said I want this guy more than I want
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the quarterback, and everybody else there said, hey, look, we
got to get a quarterback to build around for the
next ten years. So to satisfy the coach, to make
him happy and make it feel everything's on board, he
did have to overpay to go go ahead and get Anderson.
So you just go ahead and you do it right.
Otherwise you can wait in the draft a little bit
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and not have to pay as much of a premium.
But to me, it's this smacked of make your head
coach happy while also getting a guy that you think
can be a franchise quarterback, and you certainly hope that
he's going to be a franchise quarterback. Certainly if you
don't believe in the other two guys, did.
Speaker 5 (35:19):
You confirm that he had a yellow sticky note like
Kevin Coster that said Anderson no matter what.
Speaker 6 (35:27):
No, I can't confirm that, but I do believe that
he was watching Draft Day earlier in the day and
came up with all the strategies for what I want
to do.
Speaker 4 (35:39):
You know what, I'm surprised that you know. I'm surprised
that really is that you know.
Speaker 6 (35:42):
I was in draft Day by the way, you're in
Draft Day. Yeah, for like maybe a three milliseconds.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
Okay, who are you?
Speaker 6 (35:51):
If you blink, no, I'm gone. And I might have
gotten edited out on the whatever the never turner station
it's on where it plays. I'm probably edited out. That's
my guest, Mike.
Speaker 4 (36:07):
You've seen Draft A eight billion times. Where's Jason colling it? Well,
there's a billion h gaggle of reporter scenes.
Speaker 6 (36:14):
Yeah, trust me, I'm I'm I'm in the background scenes
and in uh and uh in the theater in New York.
That's that's where I am. That's like I said, you blink,
no he's gone, or you cut, you know, cut even
two seconds of the film. I'm gone. So that's it.
(36:35):
I'm done.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
You know that what I always if you know, every
every Christmas Eve, someone puts on Twitter, Hey, terrorists of
season Kokotomy Plaza and Downtown l A. And people fall
for it and think it's real and it is something.
We hear that it's Hans Gruber, this big ten. They
show a picture Alan Rickman and everything else. I can't
believe on Draft Day that people don't fall for hey, uh,
(37:00):
the the the the Browns have just traded three second
round picks to the Jaguars and their rookie GM makes
a big move down there, and people don't go crazy
over why do we make this trade?
Speaker 4 (37:10):
I can't believe that. I can't believe we don't get
more people with Draft day plot life. It weird.
Speaker 6 (37:14):
That would really that would be pretty awesome if we
did that. I'm thinking, well, maybe let's try and pull
that one off next year. That would be that would
be entertaining. I will say what to transition a little bit.
The most entertaining moment of this entire draft was with
a key on white the kid who was taking number
forty six by by the Patriots, who had the look
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on his face like, you know, like his entire family
had you know, like had just you know, been killed
like it was it was awful, Like he was like,
it was like it was the most uncomfortable reaction I've
ever seen. He was just absolutely nonplus by the whole moment.
I was like, I was thinking, Belichick's probably looking at
(38:00):
that going head, looks fired up. Love it.
Speaker 5 (38:04):
He nods, he extends his hand for a handshake.
Speaker 4 (38:09):
It's like, Yep, this is where I need to be.
It's my kind of guy.
Speaker 5 (38:13):
Understated, just nods and maybe mumbles a couple of words.
Speaker 4 (38:16):
It works.
Speaker 6 (38:17):
He was channeling his inner Belichick more than any human being.
That was such a pure Belichick moment. It really was
like everybody'shooting in the hollers, they're giving him high fives, everybody's
starting to cry. He's just like, yeah, yep, some of
the Patriots.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
Yeah, look, you know, you know Belichick was bad because
what he wanted to do was trade all the picks
to get eleven seventh round picks and draft all players
from the Patriot League.
Speaker 4 (38:46):
Like that's all he wanted to do.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
I'm gonna draft people from from the IVY League and
the Patriot Like, this is what I want.
Speaker 4 (38:51):
I want guys to play D three last year. This
is what we're going to take all.
Speaker 6 (38:55):
Seventh rounds because he's going to take his team, which
right now looks like it's gonna if in his last
place in that division this year does not look promising,
and say, let's develop an excuse for why this happened.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
Yeah, but they'll still beat the Jets twice, they'll finish last.
They'll still find a way to beat the Jets.
Speaker 6 (39:13):
They'll intercept Rogers like six times in the two games combined,
or six times in each game.
Speaker 4 (39:20):
Rogers, what are you doing? Rogers?
Speaker 6 (39:22):
Game?
Speaker 4 (39:22):
We brought you into?
Speaker 5 (39:26):
Oh boy, you know what did you like most out
of day one? What was the thing that move that said, ah,
this is shrewd.
Speaker 4 (39:34):
He liked Rogers.
Speaker 6 (39:35):
That's what he liked, Rogers, Rogers rude. Certainly, taking Jahn
Carter's is really is a great pick, because I mean,
I don't know if there's other stuff in Jaln Carter's
past which is the reason why he's falling like this.
And I'm not trying to say that this incident that
you know, the speeding incident is not a significant thing.
(39:57):
Two people that are dead, right, and this is this
is very serious, okay, But I've seen other things where
it was longer term habitual behavior by players that you know,
like didn't get discussed as much as this one. Right,
(40:18):
It's and I was I was sort of wondering myself
to myself, there has to be again, not that this
is not a significant incident in and of itself, but
I thought for him to fall this far with all
of his talent, there has to be something else. But
he's a truly great player, and they put him with
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the other kid, Jordan Davis, like this is their their
defensive line. They lost Hardgrave, and like they don't take
a step back at all. In fact, they might be
better today defensive line wise than they were a year ago.
And that's saying quite a bit. I didn't like. I
will say that I didn't quite get Detroit's decision to
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go and take running back without having a deal in
place for Swift already. Like, if you're going to do
that and you're making that declaration, you've got to trade Swift,
like either right before you do that or right after
because now Swift has much less value, right, so that
one I do. I'm really fascinated by Atlanta and trying
(41:26):
to build around a running back and saying if they can, Yeah,
if Arthur Smith can build around or running back the
same way he built around Derrick Henry that offense in Tennessee.
I'm that those were the ones that really intrigued me,
those kinds of those moves.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
Check about on OutKick on Twitter at Jason Cole sixty two.
Speaker 4 (41:48):
That's at Jason Cole sixty two. Rogers. Thanks as always, Buddy, appreciated.
Speaker 6 (41:54):
We'll talk about Remember Your shut Up. Your Kid's Not
That Great? Available on Amazon. Uh and Tom Brady Sr.
Said it's a must read for every parent.
Speaker 4 (42:04):
There you go, your kid's not that great, unless you're
Aaron Rodgers, in which case your kid, you're his parents,
and which it is that great.
Speaker 6 (42:11):
That's yeah. But you don't talk. You don't talk to
him anymore because he doesn't talk to his parents anymore.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
He's still great stuff. Yeah, his parents stillleft with me.
He's a great quarterback.
Speaker 4 (42:21):
I mean, you can't. He might not. They might look
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Speaker 4 (00:36):
That might be my favorite open ever. I don't know.
I don't know that there's a better open than that.
That really encapsulizes who all of us are as people.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
It's like I can answ some truth to that. Oh
God out truth to that one. Oh no, no, there's
truth to.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
That One's no truth to it though, right Dad.
Speaker 5 (00:52):
Two of you guys recalled generational talents for crying out.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Wow, yeah, that's true. They got that part of me,
right yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
But for Allsburg is last one in, first one out
really because shocker, because I've seen the beat you guys
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Speaker 3 (01:08):
First one out.
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Huh no you usually I put my fours up. Tyser
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Speaker 1 (01:25):
I like the Tysons generational talent, but has a low
football That's okay.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Talent because I'm here without it.
Speaker 5 (01:31):
He's got all of the other skills, just like Aaron
Rodgers talent.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
He's low talented, but he's got low IQ. Why are
you ripping on that?
Speaker 1 (01:39):
You listen, dude, this has been a week of you
taking the l because Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
A week is over. It's come to an end, America.
We're still There's no more Jets talk.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
We're doing a show tonight, are we. It's it's over
all about it. It's all about it, all about it.
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Speaker 1 (02:25):
He is a very underrated day on the sports calendar.
It's a very underrated day because Day two of the
NFL dred, Day one of the draft. It's really all
about the draft and everything else gets its secondary nature right,
Like we had we had a NBA playoff game yesterday.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
People don't even know what happened. There was a game.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
Yesterday, know, and that's just that they woke up today.
It's like, wait, the Celtics advanced. Wait, what's going on?
Speaker 4 (02:50):
Boss? What really they did? I we be paying attention.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
But today, you know, we talk about the first two
days of the NCAA tournament with all that stuff going on.
But today, which is the second and third rounds of
the NFL Draft, big time NBA playoff games, a full
slate of Major League baseball. This is a pretty big
day because the draft is still a very front and
center topic, but obviously it shares with the NBA playoffs.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
We have two huge games tonight. One going on right now.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Sacramento is on top of Golden State eighty four seventy
three Warriors.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Looking for the closer at home. But so far for
Golden State they have not been on the right end
of things, not shooting well from three Klay Thompson's got
twenty two. Meanwhile, dearon Fox, broken finger doesn't matter. He's
got seventeen, Murray's got fourteen and eleven. It has been
a big night for Sacramento eleven point lead despite the
fact they're getting nothing and have got nothing from Sabonis,
(03:44):
who's got seven points on three to ten, shooting the
Kings on the road with an eleven point lead late
in the third quarter.
Speaker 5 (03:50):
Sabonis also has five fouls. Now, I want to go back.
You mentioned baseball, and I was having a nice conversation
with my brother today about you know, his his tickets
and go into games and where it's already you know,
venomous at home and now you're playing the.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Race White Sox lose again.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
I have had so long as there have been notifications
allowed on phones notifications for the starting lineups, scoring updates
and everything for the White Sox. I'm at the level
of depression with this squad that I'm thinking, after all
these years, I may actually turn the notifications off because everyone.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
What the hell has happened early this time?
Speaker 5 (04:32):
When am I going to get the one that comes
with the larger badge to say you lose again, which.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
Just hit my phone a few minutes ago. So it's tough.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
It's tough already April hasn't even ended, and I'm throwing
the damn towel like.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
I'm duke man.
Speaker 5 (04:49):
It's like Hendricks, get healthy so we can trade you.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
You get healthy, so we can trade you. Tim Anderson
get healthy so we can trade you.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Well, hey, listen, before we get into the that is,
we do have this note from Major League Baseball because surprise.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
Jacob de Gram, who.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Was rolling through tonight against the New York Yankees, left
his start with two outs in the fourth inning. After
giving up his first hit, he threw a fastball that
went outside for a ball he reached for his left side.
He threw another pitch that was lined for a single
to left field. De Gram started limping. They come out
to the mound and Jacob de Gram is removed from
(05:26):
the game yet again. This is the he was started
Opening Day. He left his fourth start of the year
with a sore right wrist after he threw four hitless innings.
Made his next start here he is again hurt and
coming out and who knows what it is with his
left side when he's gonna come back.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
This is This has been.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
The last three years of Jacob de Gram in a nutshell,
you know, four innings of one hit ball, but he
comes out with an injury that this is this is
kind of what it is.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
And he he just has not been able to as
his career has gone on.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
And I don't know if a lot of it is you,
but he switched to become a pitcher later in his career.
Is a shortstop when he went to Stets into college
and then became a you know, then this guy goes
from being a shortstop becoming the best pitcher in Major
League Baseball.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
But here he is now. You know, he's thirty four.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
He still seems like a young guy because he's not
even been in the league a decade. Remember, he doesn't
come up till he's twenty six, twenty seven years old,
and so now here's someone who has come up and
thrown not a lot of innings, but become a full
time pitcher, and he has not made more than fifteen
starts in a season since twenty nineteen.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
You know, So it's it's just really really difficult.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
It's a shame because the guy, the guy is a
generational talent. But at this point, when when when the
Mets didn't sign him in the off seat, he wanted
to go to Texas, I said, boy, I'm gonna miss him,
but I really I really couldn't.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Say I could have used him tonight.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
I real well, they only played five innings night before
they got rained down.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
It's still a loss.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
Game was fixed.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
I really, I just it's really hard for me to
watch this and see that. You know, here's a guy
who is that great and is so dominant, so good,
but he can't stay on the field. And at this point,
when you're thirty four and you haven't made more than
fifteen starts in a year in four years, is it
really gonna get better? I mean, I gotta be realistic, right,
I gotta be really Is it really gonna get better?
Speaker 4 (07:11):
For de Gram?
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Is he gonna be somebody that can Suddenly he's gonna
pitch twenty five thirty starts. I mean really, I mean
twelve starts is really his over under for the season.
I mean, who knows what this is gonna be.
Speaker 5 (07:21):
Yeah, it's a tough bet because it starts to look
like a lot of what we've been talking about in
these NBA playoffs, between load management and being battle ready.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
When the heavy, strenuous.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
Minutes are there, right, Because you may play a lot
of minutes in the regular season, they don't always have
that weight on them. Playoff minutes are a different animal, right,
They age you quick. And look at Lebron the other night,
even though the Lakers are back, as Frostburg says, and
he's already sent me that chain wearing, greasy Lakers guy repeatedly,
I think something stuck on his phone.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
You wish you were that guy.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
Well, he's probably very well off and sitting around counting
his moneies, which would be good.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
I'd like that role.
Speaker 5 (08:05):
But I look at all that we talked about with
Kawhi Leonard and other players, and you look at de
Gram and it's like, all right, we're gonna get him.
We talked about this a couple of years ago with
Clayton Kershaw, and when he's great, he's great. But if
you're banking on anything more than what is it twenty
two starts, I think is the max he's had the
last couple of years. That's it, which is two thirds
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of a season. That's fine as long as he's ready
to play and pitch in September and October. But for
Jacob de Gram, you just hit that point where it's
another and a long laundry list and pick your.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
Sport of guys that have dazzled us.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
And then just like that, the stage curtain drops, right,
someone forgot to anchor the sandbags and it throws the
curtain back down.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
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So we'll keep an eye on what's going on in
major League Baseball. Yes we got we got the big
game between the Kings and the Warriors. But very early
tonight the wait for Will Levis ended. The Tennessee Titans
training up drafting Will Levis, who we watched twenty nine times.
(09:31):
They cut away to him last night thirty seven. There,
shut up, there's Will Levis. He's in the green room.
He's in the green room. His sister is laughing on
her phone. Let's go to Will Levis again. We told
you last night it was gonna end pretty quickly. For
two main reasons. Will Levis is a really good quarterback.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
He fell. It happens, quarterbacks fall. But now Will Levis
went from being hey, he's a really good player, he's falling.
And because once you get past a certain pick in
the first out of the draft, you're not going to
see quarterbacks for a while.
Speaker 6 (10:02):
Right.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
It's not like, boy, everybody you know thirty.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Two teams passed, and once you get past the early
teams in the draft, hey, no one's going to take
a quarterback for a while. And so we have that
happen and he falls. But the main reason is now
Will Levis becomes a bargain because he's now a second
round player that's going to be on a really rookie
friendly contract. And if will Levis is terrific, Hey, look
(10:25):
at the Eagles on a second round deal for Jalen Hurts.
They went to the super Bowl last year, right, So
if you hit it big on a quarterback in the
second round, yeah, that can really help you. He went
from being a really good player who've thought he'd be
the second overall pick, maybe even first, that's what it was.
But the fact that he went from being a player
who was good, boy, he's falling.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
Oh what's going on to? You want to stay away fromhim?
What's going on to? Now?
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Wait a minute, the guy's a bargain because I can
trade up get him in the second round. And I
love Tennessee making this move because they realize that boy
Malik Willis just struggled way too much to think he
can do it. So now they go out and get
a guy who can be their quarterback going forward. I
love the pickup. I love that Levis gets there. It's
a great destination for him.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
And now I'm seeing that I can see Ryan Tannehill
on a different team, because how many reps do you
have for a guy? Are you really gonna let go
Malik Willis you took in the first round last year.
Somebody's got a play. Are you really gonna go to?
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Ryan Tannhill saw I got a feeling he might be
the next guy that Hey, make a couple of phone calls,
he might be available.
Speaker 5 (11:25):
I've been kind of waiting for that to be the case,
long rumored. So with will Levis, the talk is, you know,
he's that kind of guy for Vrabel that get along
with Well, a lot of conjecture today of what actually
was going on with them. Well, we went back and
some teams weren't enamored with their meetings, Others didn't like
(11:46):
some things they saw on tape. Others talked about his toe.
We got into that a little bit last night. But
in terms of coming off the board, Joey Porter Junior,
a great story goes to Pittsburgh and then we get
Will Levis off and you have an opportunity here with
the second round contract. As you mentioned, it's the expectation
(12:08):
spotlight all of that stuff again, stuff we talked about
yesterday for those that missed the big post first round
show that we did talking about, you know, expectations of
coming in if they do nothing with Tannehill, then he
sits and learns. If he's able to come in and
acclimate quickly and in the camps, then yeah, maybe maybe
(12:31):
there's a quick, quick trigger and he's there week one,
And if so, then you've got the clock is talking
about shorter tenure. Right, you don't get that fifth year,
but you're not paying him as much and you have
the opportunity for him to go and play because the
expectations are going to be much different. The spotlight's going
to fade now that he got picked. The fact that
(12:54):
he didn't go, I think rubbed a lot of people
the wrong way. I would have set a cardboard cutout,
I think to be be a smart ass about it.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
It's like, no, there was I.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
Was there in spirit and then he didn't even get
into his front door.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Yeah you see that girlfriend, Hey, e's easy from what
this isn't TMZ?
Speaker 4 (13:12):
Come on, man, what are.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
You talking about. That's the only reason the cameras were
on Wow.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
There was a lot of speculation that you know, by
the end of the night might have just said, you
know what, this isn't gonna work.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
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Speaker 4 (14:21):
In the NFL draft, we are closing in on the
end of the third round. Meanwhile, in the NBA, the
Lakers have just tipped off in front of Jack Nicholson
and and Fanos and everybody. I just saw the greatest gmntage. Buddy,
(14:42):
you did buddy, Yeah, what'd you see? Update?
Speaker 5 (14:45):
What what you got? Because you added Thanos Stanos actually there? Well,
if Jack Nicholson's there, you know, Thanos is probably right
because I just saw Will Arnett, so some version of
Batman there Will And uh, why.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Do you got to bring Marvel into everything?
Speaker 4 (15:02):
Man? Wow? You really you gotta do it, like you
gotta sell that, man.
Speaker 6 (15:06):
I like that.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
That was low key though, like he was just playing
the bass. Yeah, dude, now you did that like I
really didn't feel like doing it.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
That sounded just like normally you should be very excited
about that, like if I said nickelback.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Oh my god, look at this phoneograb.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
That wasn't half bad. Actually, see that was better than
just you're half hearted. No, no, no, don't encourage it, Mike.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
That's how he sounds though.
Speaker 6 (15:31):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
Time out on the floor at the Crypt, Lakers lead
the Grizzlies fourteen to nine. Lakers looking for the close out,
which would put them into the NBA Finals against the Knicks.
So if the Lakers win this game, we go right
to Nick Lakers for the NBA Finals.
Speaker 5 (15:47):
I think many NBA executives over there in New York
would love to pass some sort of resolution as if
they were members of Congress to be able to pull
that off.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Who says, no, right, but we lose allgain No, no, no,
you make it like a best eleven out of twenty one.
It's out fine, We're gonna play this series for the
next month and a half.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
Nicks Lakers every single we can't be doing make goods
to advertisers. That's a good.
Speaker 5 (16:09):
Bad But they did best eleven of twenty one. That
becomes a all right? Which is the load management game? Oh,
lots of games are load Man. If you're up, like,
if you're up like four to one, you got load
managed with the next come.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
Yeah, they took really nights. We're really we're tired. Uh
so Lakers again.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Lead there in front of Jack Nicholson, who is at
the game for the first time in almost two years.
Uh Nicholson's at the game. Just turned eighty six. He's
got purple pants on. Kind of awesome. He's taking pictures
with people. He did a picture with jobstud He's doing
all these things.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
Man, it's it's it's a big Jack Nicholson night. That's
like an homage to me.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Purple shorts though.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Yeah, yeah, we hear purple pants. You know, I've never
seen you wear purple pants, just purple shorts.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
Oh, I'll wear them next week.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
You have purple pants, really, of course, and you've not.
I've known you for nine years, you've not worn purple pants.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
I often don't wear pants.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Okay, that's true, but there are it does get cold
in the winter, there is sometimes, you know, the last
of those are usually some nice sweatpants or yeah, or maybe,
but I would think that would be the that would
be the top of your pants rotation, your purple it
would be'd be right at the top, it would be.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
Yeah, yeah, we'll.
Speaker 5 (17:19):
Make sure to add that back in. Rather, it's going
to be ninety five degrees here.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
And sure, I've never seen a pair with an ass
in them.
Speaker 5 (17:25):
You know what, I didn't say there was an ass
in them. They're a pant like product.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Meanwhile, the other big game tonight, well really entertaining first
round series, and after the way Game five went, I'm sure,
MANI bules at all this is now gonna end. The
Warriors are going home. I told you when the Kings
are up to zip. The series is going seven and
it's gonna wind up being can the Kings win a
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game with the pressure of the entire basketball world on them,
And can the Warriors win a game on the road
when they're terrible? And this is where we, Doug Kings
are gonna go, oh no, now the Warriors got no.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
Now the King's that.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Now the Warriors. We are going to Game seven after
the Kings beat the Warriors one eighteen ninety nine. De
Aaron Fox, who is becoming an absolute superstar. Look, he's
the breakout player of the NBA playoffs right now. Look,
Jalen Brunson, we knew how great he was, great what
he's doing with the Knicks, But Jalen Brunson's had a
little bit of run. He does play for the Knicks
after all. But d' Aaron Fox is a guy who
(18:24):
came out remember the big We thought there would be
a big darn Fox le Lonzo ball rivalry and he
has become an absolute stud. Twenty six eleven and four
rebounds a night to lead the Kings to victory over
Golden State. And honestly, in this game, I mean, look,
doing the show and watching it, but you know, what
do I know about basketball? But I saw one team
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that had a lot more jump and looked a lot
fresher and the other team that looked like they were
stuck a little bit. We're hoping to hit some threes
and get back in this. The Warriors just didn't look
like they had the life that the Kings had in
this game. And the Kings ran all over the floor
around them. You know, they shot forty percent.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
From the floor.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
They were better at every aspect of the game than
Golden State. Wasn't the fact that we got to the
fourth quarter in Golden State the Kings pulled away for
this tree.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
They didn't just survive and go, oh, you know, we
went a nail bier by three, They pulled away to
win by twenty and send this thing to game seven.
I mean, the longer series go on for veteran players
and veteran teams, the harder it gets to win. And
that's what the Warriors are fighting out right now.
Speaker 5 (19:27):
Well, it goes one way or the other, right either
the championship medal. Right, the history informs it, which is
what has been the I guess tagline for the way
this series was anticipated was that the Kings would eventually
shrink away, and as we go to Game seven, Warriors
were seven and a half point favorites tonight to close
(19:50):
it out and got absolutely boat raced at home.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
They missed exactly.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
They missed ten free throws, including a couple from Steph.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
He went six of.
Speaker 5 (20:02):
Nine from the fall line, stopped the presses that may
have never happened and may never happened again, but he
had some struggles. I'm sure every one of the players
will need to write a check to the league because
I'm sure they're going to complain about officiating. There were
a number of instances that left me scratching my head, going,
that's not a fil what are we doing. I know
(20:24):
playoff rules are a little bit different, but hey, here
we go one eighteen ninety nine, your final. They get
absolutely pasted. Nineteen turnovers. Yes, Sacramento matched them in that column,
but not all turnovers in sequencing are created equal. So
just a pretty dismal effort all around. A lot of
(20:45):
shots coming up short on the rim or just some
bad possessions. Although for a while look like the t
Wolves were going to do everything they could to give
it back. They had that idiotic play at the end
of the third quarter where they rolled the ball into
play and the Warriors got down and stole it.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
Oh, how about we just let's not worry about the
clock so much. Right, let's make sure that doesn't mark.
Speaker 5 (21:08):
Right, it's like thirty eight seconds left. You know we
could get that. It's like, no play basketball. That's what
built you the lead. Don't do anything dumb to open
the door.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
You know, you know, you know what.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
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Speaker 3 (21:35):
Slash match, is it the next losing in the second round?
Speaker 6 (21:37):
No?
Speaker 4 (21:37):
Come on, the Knicks are great? Is that after every game?
Speaker 6 (21:42):
Right?
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Because we're in the hot take society that we've been in,
and look, I like a hot take as much as
anybody else. I'm digging that. But this series, specifically this
King's Warrior series, this is gone depending on who wins
the game. The overwhelming narrative is come the Kings and
they're being disrespected. But then the Warriors win the next game,
(22:04):
and it's the Warriors save their season. Look at the champs,
like they're going to the Western Conference finals. It's two
to two, it's three too now it's three three, and
they're going. But every game it's like, oh, what can
I say?
Speaker 4 (22:17):
How can I go completely opposite of what the take was,
what the overwhelming consensus was following the last game, and
do it? Here?
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Oh the war Look at the Warriors, Look at they're champions.
Everybody's underestimating them. Guess what, they can still go home
in the first round, right, it's not like they've won
three rounds of playoffs. We're getting ready for the conference finals,
and it's oh, look at Golden State, look what they did. Yeah,
if the Warriors get to the conference finals, I can
look back and all right, look at what they did.
We th had them buried, and look at what they
(22:44):
were able to do. They couldn't win a game at
home away from home most of the year. They won
a couple at the end of the year, and look
at what they did in the playoffs. Things have bounced
their way and they got through and they galvanized themselves
behind Draymond Green suspension, and here they are the Western
Conference Finals. But everything I just said, people are saying
after game five of the first round of the players, are.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
You new here? Look at what they're dumb like, you
got it? Come on, man, you gotta be kidding me.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
You really save all your you know, save your big
hot take, you know, exclamation points when a team actually
wins a series, and at least you have a couple
of days of being able to pat yourself on the back, right, Like, look,
I had to wait. I knew the Knicks were great.
I knew the Knicks were gonna beat the crap out
of the Cavs. I told you before the series Nixon four, Oh,
the Knicks one and five? Okay, big deal. But when
(23:31):
did I start honking it up about the Knicks after
they closed them out?
Speaker 6 (23:35):
Right?
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Because every game, every game is not its own book.
In a series, you can't just say, oh, they're up
to one, it looks like this series is over. They'll
win the next one, they'll be in the finals. Yes,
let's talk about how they're back to being the champions.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
No, they're not.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
The Warriors can still go out in the first round,
and then the storyline is the end of the Warriors.
Dynasty with everybody back and everybody healthy, and here's everybody,
and they can't get out of the first round of
the playoffs against Sacramento, a series that everybody wanted to
hand to them at to be an oh gold Golden state.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
Look at that.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
They're they're the champs. They won some they won four titles.
Sacramento's really good, but they're new to the playoffs. They're
gonna wilt under pressure. The Warriors will be able to
use that champions mentality and take a game away from
home and win everything at home. Well, yeah, they won
a game away from home and they gave it back tonight.
And the Kings were the best team out there when
the Warriors are going for a closer. So getting me
stop a little bit with the all. Look at the Warriors.
(24:28):
I know that people want to say great things about
them all the time. They always want to say great
things about Steph and Clay and what a great leader
Draymond is, even when he's being a knucklehead and deserves
a suspension. But I really want to say good things
about No say accurate things. The accurate thing is the
era of the Warriors could be over in one more game.
It could continue, but it could be over in one
(24:50):
more games. So let's realize that's kind of where things are.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
Boy, it's like you just started in sports talk radio.
Speaker 5 (24:56):
I know this wild pendulum has been there for every
but have you not paid attention when some of the
stories business it's the last couple of weeks, the coming out.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
But it's only in the NBA playoffs where every game
it's I need to say something really intelligent and and
and cut through about the NBA, about these two games
last and intelli, what can I possibly say?
Speaker 4 (25:19):
Right? Like, it's easy to do it during the NFL.
C is easy to do because teams play once a week. Right,
it's teams play once a week.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Right, It's hard to do in the NBA players when
it's every other game and it's such a big deal
for one game. And how do I find what to say?
I'm gonna give a team a championship after they're up
to one in the first round.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
You just take whoever's playing the Jets.
Speaker 5 (25:36):
I would say that's the one thing that helps, going
back to your analogy, is that in the NBA and
and it makes the work a little harder unless they
have the Arian Foster script is that It's not like
a certain book series where it was always oh again,
it was the professor that was supposed to help us
against the dark arts.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
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Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
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Speaker 1 (26:07):
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Speaker 4 (26:37):
One.
Speaker 6 (26:38):
It makes things easier. Hes go faster when you're right
with AI. Okay, it's natural, Yeah, right, he's Yeah, there's
been a very good draft. It's a very very good draft.
Good for you, Smith. This is the greatest draft of
(27:02):
Jets history. I will say that, right. Sure, we got
a great draft week.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Yes, we got Aaron Rodgers. We got a guy named
McDonald because I love McDonald's. It doesn't get any better
than this.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
Is that?
Speaker 6 (27:15):
Did you draft Norm McDonald's kid or something like that.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
We we did. We we drafted to McDonald again. Uh
you know, thirty five years after he played that.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
We drafted McDonalds. Yes, dude, how much of my loving life.
Rogers is all saying all the best things. New York,
He's working out and Jets gear. Already I wanted to
be a Jet. It was the Jets and nobody.
Speaker 6 (27:39):
You're great, You're the You're that, You're that guy who
was basically, who is that crazy looking dude with the
hair who wore the belt in the first Insurance adds
with him, you're that guy, Hey, Rock, that's who you
are right now, That's exactly who you are. Rogers and
(28:02):
they got the belt on the whole thing. Every week
you're gonna scream at least once Rogers.
Speaker 5 (28:11):
He's been doing it all week. J Cole and I
got to say, going into the draft, I was a
bit disappointed that both the Rogers and Lamar Jackson's situations
were resolved before the commissioner came out to get booed.
I was really hoping we'd have some more drama.
Speaker 6 (28:26):
Well, actually, the NFL was quite happy with it, since
they didn't have to talk about tampering. But yeah, that's
a whole different thing. You know.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
Now they wouldn't talk about it anyway. Nothing to see here.
Speaker 6 (28:37):
Yeah, just everybody walk away Rogers contra everybody walking Antonio
Brown crazy. Well, that's normal, we do that every week.
I thought, Look, the Rogers thing, we all knew that
was going to happen. The Lamar Jackson thing, I'm not
surprised at because he eventually had to get something.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Done and they needed you know, they needed to get.
Speaker 6 (29:00):
It done too, because they had to make a decision. Okay,
are we doing the one year deal with him or
are we going to this draft where we have to
think about taking one of these quarterbacks in the second
or third round or maybe even the first depending on
how things look. They have a really important decision to make,
and so you know, ultimately he's got to get done.
As we all found out, Lamar had no leverage to
(29:22):
get anything better than what he's basically been offered for
the last year and a half, which you know, there's
nothing that needs that likes one hundred and eighty six
million dollars. You know, that's a heck of a contract
and has paid quarterback for now. You know, I mean,
in about two weeks, Patrick Mahome, you're going to redo
his deal and you know he'll be at fifty three
(29:42):
or whatever the number has to be. But you know,
fifty plus million and one hundred and eighty six eight.
You know, he's got generational wealth. Now everything's taken care of.
He can even you know, afford to put Antonio Brown
on the contract, on the payroll himself, you know, if maybe.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
And that was my big thing today, J Cole is
that like this is where like the new Twitter has
really upset me because it took me five minutes to
try to figure out is Antonio Brown or Raven or not?
Like I don't know, like he tweets out in a
Jersey Okay, he obviously signed there, but then I got
to try to find it and seems to and it
takes me five minutes to find out.
Speaker 6 (30:20):
Because new Twitter is is is to all? And what
the joke hadn't started fast enough for you?
Speaker 4 (30:25):
I like the he just liked his blue check marks.
Speaker 5 (30:29):
Now that that has become a wild West in that regard,
he feels a bit lost.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
Now I gotta look and see it. Who has it
is this is? You know, does somebody have it does.
Are the Ravens tweet? No, they haven't. All right, what
about Blazer? What about Jefter?
Speaker 3 (30:42):
You know?
Speaker 6 (30:43):
Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope nope. Abe is all alone
on this one, much as he is on pretty much
everything that's going on in his.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
Life right now.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Hey, no, I know one big thing you were hot
on on the draft. You were not hot on Will
Levis leaving the draft. You even you even said you
would wait till you would have waited till a third
round a draft at this point.
Speaker 6 (31:07):
Oh absolutely. I mean, look, things are going to get
really ugly here during your career, right You're going to
have bad days. If you think this is such a
bad day that you can't show up for the next round,
I got a problem with your mental forty two to
answer this scheme, Like, you know, I remember Dan Marino.
(31:30):
You know, the story is about Marino from his rookie year.
Not that I covered that year, but you know, from
his rookie year where he threw like three interceptions in
a game or it was it was eighty four. Don
Strock was his backup, and Marina's coming off the field.
He thinks he sucks. It's awful he's thrown three ind ficks.
You know there's something's gone wrong here. His confidence is lost,
(31:51):
and he walks in and Strock looks at him and goes, man,
that really sucked. Yeah. I think this is a teammate
telling him like, hey, welcome to the NFL, Like the
other guys are really good. Okay, So if you're not
ready for that, and again, if you're not ready for
(32:11):
the fact that, oh, poor baby, you didn't go in
the first round and you can't show up for the
second day, I got a problem with you. I really do.
And I think there's plenty of talent there and all
these other things, and you know, for whatever reason he felt,
you know, I've heard no legitimate reason. And the toe
(32:33):
thing just sounds silly to me. That would have come
out weeks ago. Sorry, you know, like people would have
floated that a long time ago. But you know, like,
hang in there, dude. I mean, I will say this,
I don't understand, Tennessee, if you're going to trade up
for him on day two, why didn't you do that
(32:53):
at the end of day one, where you know, you
moved up a couple more spots and you would have
had control of the kid for that fifth year. Yeah,
like that was a that's a bad strategic move. You
should have done that. I mean, you're not going Kansas
is not going to help you, clearly with the last pick.
But there were a couple of the teams at the
(33:14):
end of the end of the first round where you
could have snuck up and taken you know, you could
have taken Levis there. If you're going to take him
at where they take him at thirty four, you should
take them at you know, thirty or thirty one or
twenty nine, whatever you got to do.
Speaker 5 (33:28):
See, we talked about it from the Lewis side of
why this was good for him, and now we get
you know, the balance put out here Jason Cole with
us here Hall of Fame.
Speaker 6 (33:37):
Oh, I think it's great. Yeah, I will say this.
I think it's a good location for Levis. Yeah, oh yeah,
as long as they keep Derrick Henry and don't do
something stupid and trade him. I mean that's a terrific
place to be.
Speaker 5 (33:49):
That would have been done already, right right, No, uh,
never know, well speak of doing something stupid and out
of the order. Just what last night, I you know,
the world stopped as it looked like Houston actually worked
with some competency. Yeah, you might not like the compensation
going back to go go get Anderson, but it looked
(34:11):
like they actually had some football acumen in the room
and some direction and purpose for the first time in
a while.
Speaker 4 (34:17):
Jacole.
Speaker 6 (34:18):
Yeah, it also looks like to me, an argument where
the head coach was sitting here saying, I want Anderson
no matter what, that's my guy, that's the guy I
want to build around, which is a perfectly legitimate thing
to do if you're Nika Ryans, right, and why are
we you know, like he probably stood on a table
and said I want this guy more than I want
(34:40):
the quarterback, and everybody else there said, hey, look, we
got to get a quarterback to build around for the
next ten years. So to satisfy the coach, to make
him happy and make it feel everything's on board, he
did have to overpay to go go ahead and get Anderson.
So you just go ahead and you do it right.
Otherwise you can wait in the draft a little bit
(35:03):
and not have to pay as much of a premium.
But to me, it's this smacked of make your head
coach happy while also getting a guy that you think
can be a franchise quarterback, and you certainly hope that
he's going to be a franchise quarterback. Certainly if you
don't believe in the other two guys, did.
Speaker 5 (35:19):
You confirm that he had a yellow sticky note like
Kevin Coster that said Anderson no matter what.
Speaker 6 (35:27):
No, I can't confirm that, but I do believe that
he was watching Draft Day earlier in the day and
came up with all the strategies for what I want
to do.
Speaker 4 (35:39):
You know what, I'm surprised that you know. I'm surprised
that really is that you know.
Speaker 6 (35:42):
I was in draft Day by the way, you're in
Draft Day. Yeah, for like maybe a three milliseconds.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
Okay, who are you?
Speaker 6 (35:51):
If you blink, no, I'm gone. And I might have
gotten edited out on the whatever the never turner station
it's on where it plays. I'm probably edited out. That's
my guest, Mike.
Speaker 4 (36:07):
You've seen Draft A eight billion times. Where's Jason colling it? Well,
there's a billion h gaggle of reporter scenes.
Speaker 6 (36:14):
Yeah, trust me, I'm I'm I'm in the background scenes
and in uh and uh in the theater in New York.
That's that's where I am. That's like I said, you blink,
no he's gone, or you cut, you know, cut even
two seconds of the film. I'm gone. So that's it.
(36:35):
I'm done.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
You know that what I always if you know, every
every Christmas Eve, someone puts on Twitter, Hey, terrorists of
season Kokotomy Plaza and Downtown l A. And people fall
for it and think it's real and it is something.
We hear that it's Hans Gruber, this big ten. They
show a picture Alan Rickman and everything else. I can't
believe on Draft Day that people don't fall for hey, uh,
(37:00):
the the the the Browns have just traded three second
round picks to the Jaguars and their rookie GM makes
a big move down there, and people don't go crazy
over why do we make this trade?
Speaker 4 (37:10):
I can't believe that. I can't believe we don't get
more people with Draft day plot life. It weird.
Speaker 6 (37:14):
That would really that would be pretty awesome if we
did that. I'm thinking, well, maybe let's try and pull
that one off next year. That would be that would
be entertaining. I will say what to transition a little bit.
The most entertaining moment of this entire draft was with
a key on white the kid who was taking number
forty six by by the Patriots, who had the look
(37:38):
on his face like, you know, like his entire family
had you know, like had just you know, been killed
like it was it was awful, Like he was like,
it was like it was the most uncomfortable reaction I've
ever seen. He was just absolutely nonplus by the whole moment.
I was like, I was thinking, Belichick's probably looking at
(38:00):
that going head, looks fired up. Love it.
Speaker 5 (38:04):
He nods, he extends his hand for a handshake.
Speaker 4 (38:09):
It's like, Yep, this is where I need to be.
It's my kind of guy.
Speaker 5 (38:13):
Understated, just nods and maybe mumbles a couple of words.
Speaker 4 (38:16):
It works.
Speaker 6 (38:17):
He was channeling his inner Belichick more than any human being.
That was such a pure Belichick moment. It really was
like everybody'shooting in the hollers, they're giving him high fives, everybody's
starting to cry. He's just like, yeah, yep, some of
the Patriots.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
Yeah, look, you know, you know Belichick was bad because
what he wanted to do was trade all the picks
to get eleven seventh round picks and draft all players
from the Patriot League.
Speaker 4 (38:46):
Like that's all he wanted to do.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
I'm gonna draft people from from the IVY League and
the Patriot Like, this is what I want.
Speaker 4 (38:51):
I want guys to play D three last year. This
is what we're going to take all.
Speaker 6 (38:55):
Seventh rounds because he's going to take his team, which
right now looks like it's gonna if in his last
place in that division this year does not look promising,
and say, let's develop an excuse for why this happened.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
Yeah, but they'll still beat the Jets twice, they'll finish last.
They'll still find a way to beat the Jets.
Speaker 6 (39:13):
They'll intercept Rogers like six times in the two games combined,
or six times in each game.
Speaker 4 (39:20):
Rogers, what are you doing? Rogers?
Speaker 6 (39:22):
Game?
Speaker 4 (39:22):
We brought you into?
Speaker 5 (39:26):
Oh boy, you know what did you like most out
of day one? What was the thing that move that said, ah,
this is shrewd.
Speaker 4 (39:34):
He liked Rogers.
Speaker 6 (39:35):
That's what he liked, Rogers, Rogers rude. Certainly, taking Jahn
Carter's is really is a great pick, because I mean,
I don't know if there's other stuff in Jaln Carter's
past which is the reason why he's falling like this.
And I'm not trying to say that this incident that
you know, the speeding incident is not a significant thing.
(39:57):
Two people that are dead, right, and this is this
is very serious, okay, But I've seen other things where
it was longer term habitual behavior by players that you know,
like didn't get discussed as much as this one. Right,
(40:18):
It's and I was I was sort of wondering myself
to myself, there has to be again, not that this
is not a significant incident in and of itself, but
I thought for him to fall this far with all
of his talent, there has to be something else. But
he's a truly great player, and they put him with
(40:41):
the other kid, Jordan Davis, like this is their their
defensive line. They lost Hardgrave, and like they don't take
a step back at all. In fact, they might be
better today defensive line wise than they were a year ago.
And that's saying quite a bit. I didn't like. I
will say that I didn't quite get Detroit's decision to
(41:04):
go and take running back without having a deal in
place for Swift already. Like, if you're going to do
that and you're making that declaration, you've got to trade Swift,
like either right before you do that or right after
because now Swift has much less value, right, so that
one I do. I'm really fascinated by Atlanta and trying
(41:26):
to build around a running back and saying if they can, Yeah,
if Arthur Smith can build around or running back the
same way he built around Derrick Henry that offense in Tennessee.
I'm that those were the ones that really intrigued me,
those kinds of those moves.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
Check about on OutKick on Twitter at Jason Cole sixty two.
Speaker 4 (41:48):
That's at Jason Cole sixty two. Rogers. Thanks as always, Buddy, appreciated.
Speaker 6 (41:54):
We'll talk about Remember Your shut Up. Your Kid's Not
That Great? Available on Amazon. Uh and Tom Brady Sr.
Said it's a must read for every parent.
Speaker 4 (42:04):
There you go, your kid's not that great, unless you're
Aaron Rodgers, in which case your kid, you're his parents,
and which it is that great.
Speaker 6 (42:11):
That's yeah. But you don't talk. You don't talk to
him anymore because he doesn't talk to his parents anymore.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
He's still great stuff. Yeah, his parents stillleft with me.
He's a great quarterback.
Speaker 4 (42:21):
I mean, you can't. He might not. They might look
to any playoff failures
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