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Jason and Mike discuss Deion Sanders new regime in Colorado as he builds up his program.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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(01:00):
here are the Lakers? Yes? Are they back? Are the
Lakers back?

Speaker 3 (01:06):
I mean they took one in San Francisco, so they're
obviously back.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
Yeah, they're taking it here too.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
Are they back?

Speaker 2 (01:11):
I don't know it don't play till Saturday.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
I don't know they're back right now. And at this
point you have to think about getting Lebron and Ad
out of there.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
Yeah, I get the hell out quarter.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
It is a one oh five seventy eight lead Warriors.
Dude gets yelling and Rockies holding it. Come on, man
throwing in one oh five to seventy eight, forty two
seconds left to go in the third quarter. I mean,
I guess you could argue Ad didn't really play this
game at all. Oh we go here, we go soon

(01:45):
too soon?

Speaker 2 (01:46):
Wow, that escalated quickly. Look at you.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
The Warriors are shooting fifty six percent from the floor,
fifty four percent from three point range. Klay Thompson isn't missing.
All five Warriors starters are in double figures. This is
what happens when you don't miss. And it's gonna be
a one to one series going back to La Now,
all told, this is a win for the Lakers. The
first two days has been a win for the Lakers

(02:10):
because I firmly expected this is gonna be one of
those series where too to know, the Lakers taking Game
one did what they needed to do. Now, the pressure
on the Warriors to go out and get one of
the next two. I mean it's a twenty eight point lead.
At twenty eight point lead right now or getting the
end of the third quarter. Yeah, time for Lebron and
Ad to hit the bench. I don't think this is

(02:31):
going to be a huge comeback here. After a take
him out Darvin Ham, get him to the end of
the quarter and that's the end of it.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
Lebron actually got called for a technical too. I went
up for a three point shot, felt he was fouled.
He did a full lean away and he was touched
and looked like on the wrist. Referee he was having
none of it, so he started screaming at it, staring
him down. Been a lot of staredowns on both sides
in this contest. So we could probably do a super
cut of guys doing their best rock eyebrow impressions or

(03:01):
maybe the only I Am Groot since we're on the
even that movie coming out too. But Anthony Davis eleven
seven and four minus eighteen. Lebron after that huge first half,
he's got twenty three. He had nineteen at the break,
ten of eighteen from the field. Now on minus twenty
three and remember we had the stat very early on.
Now the Lakers had drawn even with the Warriors in

(03:23):
terms of their three point proficiency. Well, the Warriors have
now doubled them up. Eighteen makes to the Lakers nine.
Ye maybe, and the Lakers only have nine free throw attempts,
so you know the old Phil Jackson thing from way back.
And then well, I don't know, we probably have to
take a look at that. And then the next game
what happens se Bengali or Obi wan kenobi effects since

(03:46):
it is made the fourth.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
Right now, Lebron is incredibly upset. It doesn't look like
he so any sort of move. Jordan Poole takes a
three and just hits the deck because of Lebron's presence
next to him. He does a great job in calling
and drawing the foul, but Lebron didn't touch him. He's
almost as mad as he was from that play earlier

(04:10):
the season against the Celtics. How did you not call
him well against me? He wants it waved off. He
wants his foul waved off. The Lakers are challenging it
right now. There was no foul. Not that it matters
because you're down by twenty eight but this play, Yeah,
I'm on Lebron's side. This was just a great fall
to try to draw the foul. And you know what, look,
if you could draw it, that's great. If you could

(04:31):
draw it's awesome. But that's part of the game now,
and this will get overturned.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
That's part of every game at this point, right, whenever sport,
you're playing, whatever level, you're trying to get the official
to give you a call, right, a little exaggerated stumble
if maybe you've tripped over your own feet or over
the ball playing soccer. Watched a little of that earlier
today with some comical effects from the EPL. And then

(04:56):
certainly in these games there's been a lot of oh
I got I mean, we've talked a lot about James
Harden for years. How many extra free throws did he
shoot on things that were nowhere near files for Lebron. James,
he's just mad that he didn't get a call the
other way, and now you get this one called on him.
And it's the as we've talked about, the little micro
things over the course of a game, files that you

(05:19):
thought you should have drawn, files or calls you should
have gotten, shots that your teammates should have hit passes
you made that they didn't finish all of that, you know,
blowing up and screaming at people. That happens, little things,
little mess up suddenly become big deals. And that's what
happened to Lebron James here and he and Darvin Ham
now sharing a couple of chuckles on the side as

(05:42):
the warrior shoot free throws tonight shoe.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
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been waiting to get into and really dig into. Here.
We have a great opportunity now because this Deon Sanders'

(06:05):
story just continues to go and the whole controversy surrounding Dean,
who came in as Colorado's head coach, tells everybody, you
got to hit the transfer portal. And now there's a
big deal because over fifty players have hit the transfer portal.
This has been a big deal over the course of
the last few weeks. Oh, look at what's happening fifty players,

(06:27):
it's a huge problem. Today, Colorado's athletic director Rick George said, hey,
we support Deon sanders plan to rebuild the roster, saying, quote,
I have confidence in him and his staff and they
know what they're doing. He's been honest and forthright, very
open about it publicly and privately. He's trying to build
a winner at Colorado and this is his way to
do it. This should not be controversial. And I'll give

(06:51):
you and I'll give you a big, a big bull prediction.
This is the last time a story like this will
be controversial. It's new and Deon Sanders is either you
can love Deon Sanders you can hate deonza. I don't
like all the peacocking he does. I don't like. I
don't like, but I love the coach he is. Look
at what he did rebuilding a smaller school. But that's

(07:12):
why this story is here, because this is simply the
flip side of the business of college football. Right. We
talk a lot about nil and the players who can
hit the transfer portal whenever they want to, and the
headache and oh my good, what do we do but
players in the transferportal all the time when they want to.
There's nothing stopping them from doing that. Every year, your
college football and college basketball team has to go through

(07:35):
free agency, all right, every right after it's over, who's leaving,
who's staying, And you'd be surprised, Oh, we got our
guys coming back next year. Nope, guys in the transferportal
because I'm getting more nil money from here, I'm getting
a better chance over here. It happens. This is the
other end of it. This is a coach who can
and Deon Sanders came in and he told you this
is what I need to do. And you know why,
because Colorado's program is terrible. They're coming off another one

(07:58):
and eleven season. They had nothing going on. So here's
a coach coming in saying, Okay, we're not winning with
the players that we have, so I'm telling them time
to go hit the transfer portal and go. Could he
have done a little bit better, Yeah he could. He
even't have to come in his open meeting and saying, hey, welcome,
I'm the coach. You guys should get ready to transfer portal.
You're talking about kids who are who've had their world

(08:19):
turned upside down, So that could have been a little
bit better. Way for him to do it than in
the first meeting. You know, it could have been something
done behind closed doors. But that's not who Deon Sanders is.
He's a show. He wants to be a show. But
overall he's doing what they hire him to come in
and do. I'm doing what I think is best, and
that is cleaning out the program and I'm going to
get kids to come in and play. Kids can leave
any time they want to all the time. This is

(08:40):
now just going to be our way of doing it.
So nothing is going on here that's very untoward. He's
not doing anything behind closed doors. He came in and said,
hit the transfer portal. You may not like it, but
it's reality. Would you rather have that or a head
coach lie to you saying, yes, there's a place for
you here. He wants you to stay, want you to
stay while they're figuring out what to do, and then
you wind up staying, and as you get into summer practice,

(09:01):
you realize, oh, there really is nothing here for me.
The coach lied to me. He told you hit the
transfer portal. Okay, it's rough, but this is how it is.
We talk about college football is a big business all
the time. This is just the flip side of that. Yeah,
it's a business for the players. They get this part
of it too. You pushed and want NL money and
all these different things and transfer portals. Okay, but this

(09:21):
is a part of it too. Here's a coach coming
in and all he's doing is trying to figure out
a way to make the program better. There's gonna be
other coaches who come in and do the exact same
thing as Deon Sanders. They may not be as open
about it to the media, they may not be as
looking for attention as Deon Sanders is, but they're gonna
do the exact same thing. But it's the first time
we've seen something like this, so it's oh, boy, Dion,

(09:43):
what are you really doing it? But now after this
is gonna be oh, I get it. He's trying to
make the team better. He's bringing in who he thinks
he can win with. You know what he won Where
he was before this is they hired him to come
do this. So nothing's really happening that I can see
outrage for it. I just feel like it's different. So
people want to jump up and down and go I
don't like it, Okay, But there's really nothing to not
like everything that's going on. We've we've kind of seen

(10:04):
it and and I don't really have a question about it.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
Yeah, I think the big thing here is always just
remember the field you're playing on here and who you're hiring. Right,
I'll go back to our world of broadcasting former you know,
ihearten Premiere Networks personality, the EIB network Rush Limbaugh. When
he was hired for Monday Night Football, What did you

(10:28):
expect he was gonna be suddenly just diagramming plays? No,
he's brought in because his personality. You brought in Dennis Miller, dry, sardonic, esoteric,
win and then suddenly that was bad.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
Stop using words nobody knows what they mean like sardonic
and esoteric stukes. Don't use those well.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
You know what, I paid a lot of money for
those words. Damn, I'm gonna use just say he.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
Was a comedian. They brought him in to be funny.
People know commit you saying stuff like este What were
the other word, esoteric, sardonic? Bomb Nobody knows those words.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
Bombastic's a good one too that I think a lot
of folks, Uh, we need to use that more as well.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
You say sardonic and it sounds like a like if
Sardines had a group that's saying a cappella, they would
be the Sardonics. No, that's good, that's kind of what
I like that. We can add that to the next
season of SpongeBob. Look.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
So the idea, though, is that you hire people for
what they've done and who they are. Dion Sanders, since
he left Florida State, has not exactly been a wallflower.
Look what he was one of the stories coming out
of the draft, right because he blasted all the organizations
for not drafting players from the historically black colleges. Right,

(11:38):
there was only one guy goes to the Patriots. So
he called that out as well. Someone argued, well, you
went to Colorado and some of those guys that would
have been drafted now transferred because they see that you did,
and opportunities are there and others. So there's you know,
a little give and take there. But the idea being
that Dion's not a quiet guy and he's going to

(11:59):
go in and upset the applicot. Did you like the
optics of that first meeting? No, but he knew exactly
what he was doing. Look, it's a new way of
doing business. Feelings are gonna get hurt. Sit and watch
a practice at any level, high school, club soccer, you
you coach your your kids' softball team. Sometimes, you know,

(12:19):
you find a nice way to say it as often
as you can, but sometimes you's got to be a reaction. Right,
we had the Wander Franco play we were talking about yesterday, Right,
flip the ball up to yourself and then throw it.
I gotta imagine the first time that happens in a practice,
you kind of grit your teeth, maybe make a com
A second time, you're probably not gonna be as nice.
Dion doesn't give you the second time. He goes straight

(12:40):
to it.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
And now that you have fifty seven people into the
transfer portal, it's the new age of college football and
doing business, and it's a new business model. You know what,
He's got to make it work. Right.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
If it works, then great. The method is in the
you know, the in the madness of it all right,
and it proves out and he gets the best players
to stay and parents and players that want to play
under him get that exposure and maybe he can deal
with the harsh realities of how he's going to approach
practices and criticism and critiques both in the film room

(13:16):
and in front of a microphone in front of the
assorted assembled media. Then yeah, you're gonna win long term.
But in the interim, it's a theoretical Hey, let's put
this into practice. We have no idea if it's going
to work. They sold a lot of tickets, they sold
a lot of prime merch at this point, that's all.
You got a lot of headlines. And if he doesn't

(13:36):
win in September or October, guess what I think the
Colorado Ad might be reconsidering some of those things. Be
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Speaker 1 (13:51):
Hall of Famer on tour. Wait are they in the
Hall of Fame? Don't tell me Tears or Fears is
in the rock and roll Hall of Fame. Don't tell
me that. Don't tell me that. That'd be very That
is not even.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
Hall of very good.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
That's like Hall of average. Don't tell me that. Don't
tell me that.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
Listen, tell me a reason why they should not be
in the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
Tell allan you know, I think that might have been
my favorite bit we've done in a while last night,
where we argued the new rock and roll Hall of
Fame inductions. Oh, I can continue that people that have
been snowed like they were Major League Baseball or NFL
Hall of fhairs, not all of the All pros, all
the All Star concerts. If you missed it and get
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(14:33):
we appreciate you. Download to give it five stars. We'll
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were ass what fam what are you talking? Oh? On
a Hall of Fame Nook battle, Wow, Wow Wow for.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
Those chords alone, Wow out that song.

Speaker 1 (14:58):
That song is great, but everything something else. They're too
industrial man, rage against the machine?

Speaker 3 (15:03):
Come on, what would you know about industrial?

Speaker 2 (15:09):
I couldn't get Fozzy Bear out of my head all
day to be out.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
It was hard. It was hard, But they come along
music from the people, just where hair music is kind
of going out and grunge music is coming in, and
here's this industrial sound of a Wow Wow Wow.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
Wow, Wow wow. I know.

Speaker 1 (15:30):
I'm just not it's that's that's all I have. That's
not Hall of Fame. I feel like Tom Morello is
a big personality. He's done a lot and been very
visible the last few years. So that's why rage against
the Machine is in the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
That's why, hey man, I can't fall to good strategy.
Whatever gets you in.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
Nobody even knows the name of the lead singer. Tom
Morello is a guitarist machine. That's not that's not correct.
He's a picture for the Arizona Diamondbacks. I'm not correct.
You're incorrect about that. You were incorrect. Uh the Jason
Smith Show with my best friend Mike Carmon. Six and
a half minutes to go in this game, and uh,
Max Christi is in for the Lakers with about where

(16:08):
things are. The Warriors are thumping the Lakers right now,
one twenty one to ninety two, a forty one point
second quarter, forty three point third quarter. They're shooting fifty
percent from three to fifty percent from the floor.

Speaker 4 (16:23):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
This has been a Warriors game since late in the
second quarter. They went in the big run to close
the second half and have not looked back. The series
is gonna be one one heading back to Los Angeles.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
Now run and live betting Warriors by twenty six and
a half? What are we thinking? Uh, twenty six and
a half under currently a twenty nine point game. So yeah,
twenty six and a half. The total at two thirty
eight and a half.

Speaker 3 (16:50):
Its gonna be a lot of garbage times.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
Ooh boy, oh two thirty eight and a half. No,
I'll take the over on the two thirty eight and
a half because it's one twenty one to ninety two
right now, still six minutes left. I'll take the over
on that, but I will take hold. I take the
Warriors with I don't take the Warriors. I'll take the
Warriors and I'll take the over.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
Minus twenty six and a half. Yeah, Lebron and Ad
sitting down. They just had the look of Rob Polink
and not a lot of jokey Jokerson things this time
where there's Rob Low alongside of no very concerned look
on the face of Rob plincn this.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
I'm really really concerned.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
I'm vexed. What the hell is happening?

Speaker 5 (17:26):
Now?

Speaker 1 (17:26):
This is not the team we've picked up.

Speaker 4 (17:28):
Look what happened Anthony Davison in Game one, he was dumbinant.
Oh wait, let me see, hang on, is AD is
AD trending somewhere? It's hey, hang on, hang on, hang on,
hang on, hang on, just seeing if AD was trending.
Oh no, no, CA can't find again.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
Doubling them up on three point shots. You mentioned forty
one and forty three your point totals for the Warriors
in the second and third quarter.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
Lord man, this is just something. So the Warriors are
gonna tie this thing up at one game apiece. We'll
have more on this coming up with a couple of minutes.
But let me, you know, let me just say because
before we get into another big topic, and it will
tell you who's on the hot seat more than anybody
else in Major League Baseball today. Stop, we're sixty.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
Trade.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
Hey, look all right, all right, we'll do this instead
because you guys are both jerks. Okay, we'll get to
the hot seat in the second. I was gonna do
Star Wars Day, but no, but now you gotta hey,
who's getting lightsaber? Who's getting forged out of a window?
You know, here's the getting wind, here's the thing, here's
the thing. Purple lightsaber. Here's the thing is that, Yeah, uh,

(18:37):
Justin Verlander returns today, gives up two home runs in
the first inning, only two runs of the game. Mets
lose again to nothing. They're not hitting, their pitchers are
and pitching. I know it's early, I know this, but
this isn across the board thing. When you see teams
getting old, they don't age gracefully. It's not like you're
watching with ball. Oh hey, yeah, you know, well he

(19:00):
just turned sixty, but he still looks gad. He's aging
gret No, no, no, in sports, you get old all
at once. There's no slow ride. There's no well, I
get pick things up a little bit if I need to,
I can shut.

Speaker 4 (19:12):
No.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
When you get old, you get old all at once.
And the Mets are old. Verlander is old. Now we
don't know what we're gonna get from. I'm hoping it's
an early season thing. But Verlander is old. Schures are
is old. He certainly does not looked good. The Mets
have four or five starters in their lineup every day
that are thirty four older, Starling Marte, Mark Canna, Eduardo Escobar.

(19:33):
These guys are all thirty four thirty five years old,
and your best two pitchers are thirty four and thirty
five years old. When you get old, you get old
all at once, and it falls apart spectacularly. That's what
I'm worried about, is that it's not about the Mets
are in talent enough. It's just are they too old?
And suddenly they all are old at once? And then

(19:54):
at the deadline, it's gonna be boy, well, we're getting
a lot of prospects because we're selling Verlander, We're selling Surezer,
we're selling everybody. We're selling Eskebar in Canada, and it's
gonna be this huge everybody's going shopping at the Mets
store except to set up buying gear. They're gonna be
getting players for prospects because it'll be a huge giveaway
at the end of July. That's my worry. That's my worry.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
No chance he's gonna double down and spend another four
hundred million. Are you kidding? Man?

Speaker 1 (20:20):
I are you really gonna do if you're twenty games
under five hundred's spend more money now, na get prospects,
put it away, go back next year. Now.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
He doesn't strike me as a guy that's all about
the long term prospecting kind of. Yeah, but if he
could suspects.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
If you could actually buy a win, I would be like,
if he could go to rob Manfers and listen, I
need to buy ten wins. Well, make it traight, No, no, no,
how much money do I have to donate to Major
League Baseball to buy ten wins? I don't know a
billion dollars. I'm worth like twenty three billion. Okay, here's
a billion. And then suddenly the Mets record change. Instead
of sixteen and sixteen, they're twenty six and six. Hey,

(20:55):
this is wonderful. We're gonna need you ten wins for
a billion dollars. We're gonna need you to create a
random company and on the who is in the website
it will not have anything traceable back to you. And
then you are gonna put patches on every uniform and
you're gonna pay us an ungodly sum. Okay, by Man,
you talk about buying buy a billion dollar if rod Manferson, yeah,

(21:18):
give me a billion dollars, will give you ten more wins? Oh, okay,
something with the best team in baseball. We're twenty six
and six. We've done everything the Ras have done, except
we just bought it.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
So yeah. See, here's the thing. As much as I
look at my beloved White Sox squad, they had a
three game winning streak that got halted today ten and
twenty two. I'm a realist, going, I don't see this
suddenly firing up. You're still at five hundred. Okay, as
miserable as portions of this season have been. Your guy

(21:48):
only gave up two runs today. Yeah, there were two
home runs, and it allowed Frostburg to send the first
Daggers earlier this morning West Coast time.

Speaker 3 (21:56):
Oh it was easy. Uh, low hanging fruit there, man.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
No, But you know, once you're away, I mean that's
how I know you guys are awake, the slap fighting begins.
I'll always have a couple of.

Speaker 3 (22:05):
Into his shenan agains I'm awake. I'm not the one
who wakes up at one in the afternoon.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
Oh I can't. I can't fault a good strategy if
you have a situation that allows you to get up
at one in the afternoon, I mean, come on, and
then you fall into a tub of Big Max sauce.

Speaker 1 (22:22):
Tub of Big Max sauce. That's kind of like the
scene from Willie Walka except in falling into Big Max sauce.
He lost in the sauce. Someone just starts throwing slices
of cheese at me.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
That does are they Are they sizable enough that they
can you can ride them back to safety? Or like
they're a giant, you know, Matt, like you're going down
a river river ride somewhere at a theme park in
any town or water park near you. But I know
Timothy Shallow may later on this year, he's coming out

(22:52):
in that Wonka movie. Said he was swimming in the
Chocolate River whenever he could. So good times all around.
But yeah, it's I think there's still hope for you guys,
assuming these two guys can stay healthy. There's money, and
all you're looking for is can you get to the
second wildcard? You have that hope?

Speaker 1 (23:10):
I do not? Yeah, no, no, no, your hope is done.
Your hope is absolutely done, which.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
Is really bad. On May the fourth, Yeah, when it's
all about a rebellion against the evil Empire and all
of these star destroyers and clone war troops all over
the place that are ready to be activated, I got nothing.
My little rebellion falls silently in a cave.

Speaker 5 (23:35):
You was seduced and murdered by the possibility of the
White Sox having a good season. But anyone in any
galaxy you could see that that was not going to happen. Yes,
my little friend, if.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
You were here, I'd been doing that whole Darth Vader
choke you out motion.

Speaker 5 (23:50):
Yeah that oh sure, Oh oh, I've not heard that
name as a contender for quite some time. Chicago White Sox.
Oh that's not here is your father's lights, say, but
you wanted you to have it when you were old enough. Yeah,
this is actually used to belong to Josea Brau.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
Here take this. This is too soon, too soon to sah,
but m VP. You know, here's the thing about Star
Wars Day. Okay, because this is you know what I
like Star Wars Day speaking to Major League Baseball.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
I like Carrie Fisher got her star on the Walk
of Fame. A lot of controversy in the family, but
Mark Hamill showed up, so that was gonna be Yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:25):
A lot of not a lot of uh, not a
lot of relatives were invited to that. No, no, that
is a big billy lord kept everybody out of that
beat all profit. She mutumboed everybody and said, you're not
coming to this.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
Well, they did write books that got published suspiciously close
to uh, Carrie Fisher's death and her mom's for that matter.
I mean, it wasn't long before that, right.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
I kind of like to use Star Wars Day, like
you get to the state of the state of Major
League Baseball or state of the NFL when Roger Goodell
would have his press conference once in a while, but
it's a Super Bowl. Hey, here's your big state of
the NFL, and then there's headlines all that. So I
kind of like to use Star Wars Day. It used
to be more of a hey, look at this cool
stuff that Star Wars has coming out, but now it's

(25:10):
more of a Okay, what's the state of Star Wars
right now? And I'll tell you this. I have two things.
I have three things tell you right now about Star Wars.
Number one, the movie franchises is on life support because
they've just had an incredible, horrendous run of movies where
I don't know what kind of story they were trying
to tell, and now that more time goes back and

(25:33):
in between the new trilogy because look, I keep telling
you and I'll die in the hill. Rogue one is
the best Star Wars movie there? You like my response
to that, Rogue One is the best. I love your
responses everything.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
Buddy, But I mean, those are the two best comedic
moments I've ever seen in the theaters. What I put
out on Twitter? Respond you to ad? How about a Fresco?
I did it at Swollen Dome. Two greatest moments in
cinematic history for me, laughing. I don't know what my
state of mind was. I will assure you I was
with my kids, so I wasn't. But Yoda bouncing around
like a pinball in that battle against Christopher Lee and

(26:06):
then the Frankenstein Monster. What about Padme?

Speaker 1 (26:10):
Eh?

Speaker 2 (26:11):
You?

Speaker 1 (26:14):
That was rough?

Speaker 3 (26:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (26:15):
That was rough.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
Some of the two best laughs I've ever had in
a theater. And I've seen Anchorman, I've seen forty year
old vers, I've seen them all in the theaters, and Tho,
those were the two best laughs I ever gotten. And
I had people throwing things at me.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
I would throw things at you too, if you.

Speaker 3 (26:30):
Who throws their shoe? Honestly?

Speaker 1 (26:33):
But uh grog One was amazing. But you put out
a trilogy that had three different directors two that first
was three different directors. You fired people off it. There
were three completely different visions, and I don't know what
kind of story you were trying to tell. You know,
Finn was important, that he wasn't that he really wasn't important.
Ray was next, Now she's not, maybe she is. I mean,
I don't know what they were trying to do. And

(26:55):
you had the one chance with the new trilogy to
grab everybody, and instead it was awful. And the and
the three movies. Look at the bottom line, did we
pay money to watch them?

Speaker 2 (27:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (27:07):
Are they somewhat entertaining?

Speaker 5 (27:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (27:08):
Did they live up to the Star Wars reputation? They
simply do not. And and that's the big thing for
me is why why did this happen? I don't know
where they want. I don't know the story they want
to tell, because you knew the story that was going
for Star Wars, Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi,
and you knew the story how it was going for
Phantom Menace, Attack of the Clones or Avenge of this all.

Speaker 3 (27:29):
Phantom Menace was the goat of all movies.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
Yeah, I don't I don't know what they were doing here.
I don't know what story. Who are they trying to
tell me is important. Who are they trying to tell me?
What were they trying to do? I don't know. It
was awful because there were too many people that were
in charge. It's not the vision of George Lucas. It
was Disney trying to interpret what they thought was next.
So that's been awful, right, That's that was an awful
part of it.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
The other part of the dialogue get better, though with
no Lucas intervention, still kind of say the same. Steve
de Seger is just nodding his head vigorously. I think
he may have just hurt his neck. He may be
on the eel suited Jason Phantom was ever made.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
Phantom was good. I like Phantom a lot more thanybody
else in the charge was incredible. Oh he was so good?

Speaker 4 (28:10):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (28:11):
Is that? Look? The other thing you're fighting against is
that the specialness of Star Wars is gone, because we've
seen many things very similar to Star Wars in the
last twenty years. Marvel has taken the place of Star
Wars and all those things. So yeah, you need to
really do something special to cut through. You can't just say, hey,
we're Star Wars anymore. But all that being said, you're
not telling a great story. You don't know what There

(28:34):
are no problems that this Star Wars trilogy couldn't solve
with a better villain because Kylo Wren sucked. He was awful,
he was whiny, he wasn't cool. Star Wars always has
cool villains. Darth Vader is the coolest villain of all time.
Boba Fett Anti villain cool. Every villain was cool, Darth

(28:55):
Maul cool. Everybody. Kids love these villains. And you give
us a whiny kid who takes his mask off and
he just doesn't have any gravitas on the screen and
all of this this is why Star Wars suffered. If
you had made Captain FAsMA a better villain, everybody would
have loved it. Look at Captain fuck a Chrome Stormtrooper.

(29:15):
This is so cool. How do you not make her
a big focal point in the second movie? I don't
understand that. I don't get it. But you always had
cool villains. That's what made Star Wars. You can't have
a hero, you can't have a hero movie unless you
have great villains. Right. That's why The Avengers has been
so good because as great as the heroes are, the
villains have been awesome. What's the worst Avengers age of Ultron? Why?

(29:36):
Because Ultron was the worst villain, But all the other
villains are all great and the same thing here. Star
Wars villains are great. Kylo Ren was awful. It was
a great idea, It was a great thing behind him,
but it was not executed. And if he was cooler,
if he was a better villain, yeah, you know what,
Star Wars would have been better. They're all those problems
they have. If they had a cooler villain, that would

(29:56):
have just glossed over everything, kind of like Tom Brady
glossing over all the Patriots issues for twenty years that
now you're seeing the last couple of years. Cooler villain,
everything would have been great.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
Still better than the Jets on the middle.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
You know, screw you, screw you, and screw you too, Tightsher,
because you're probably in on it too.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
How'd you know?

Speaker 1 (30:15):
Guys are jerks.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
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So the Warriors take Game two of the NBA Finals.

(30:49):
They beat the Lakers one twenty seven to one hundred.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
You got your same game in game parlay, right too?

Speaker 5 (30:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (30:55):
Twenty six and a half boom, Yeah, buddy, I mean
I sweatd it out, but yeah, I got it.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
No half assed dunk in the final seconds to screw
you over A twenty seven.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
It is, and that was only a thirty seven point
fourth quarter. Two. I was able to squeak that out.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
Terrible terrible quarterbacks, like, can we just have a running clock?
It's like flee when he was complaining yesterday. If I'm commissioner,
then we have a we just call it. Fans don't
have to deal with this bleeping he bleep, bleep, bleep bleep.
That's what this fourth quarter felt like too. But Kaminga
got off the bench, so.

Speaker 3 (31:29):
Good for him.

Speaker 1 (31:30):
Yeah, Klay Thompson leads away with thirty steph had twenty
and twelve assists. The big thing for the Warriors fifty
percent from the field, fifty percent for three point range.
That was it. You know, every starter in double figures.
It was a blowout from late in the second quarter
all the way until the end. Yes, you're gonna get here.
The Lakers did what they had to do. They were like, yes, yes, ah, yes,

(31:52):
things you know already right Like it's like, it looks
like what you did with the the obvious Phil Sims stuff,
right with Phil Sim's most obvious. He says, well, the
Lakers did well. Yes, of course we had to do.
They won one game. They what but here they are
now tied at one game apiece. And if I am
looking for for each team, I'll give you one big

(32:12):
thing from each team. Okay, if I'm the Lakers, I
say we got a little bit loose defensively. The Warriors
were able to regame plan after Game one. I give
the Warriors a lot of credit for that, because the
Lakers were able to really keep them from realizing the
the level of play that they normally are used to.
Because the Lakers are a great defensive team. They got

(32:33):
a little loose tonight and the Warriors made their open threes.
You had a lot of time down the floor where
the Warriors had a guy open and it was Clay
or it was Jermichael Green, or it was Moody or whoever,
whoever it was. You had guys hitting threes. So if
I'm the Lakers, I feel like, Okay, we can tighten
that up and and when we get back to when

(32:55):
we get back to our place, we get back to
the crypt, things can go. Okay, we feel right about
if I'm the Warriors. The thing I feel great about
is that I feel like we played who we are tonight.
This is who we are. We had a really rough
start and we got away from who we were, and
maybe it was, you know, coming off the series and
trying to come back. The Lakers had a lot of
rest and and you're more rest than we did anyway,

(33:19):
and we had to kind of come right back after
a seven game series and Steph scores fifty and he's
yelling light the beam. Okay, we had that one game
where it was very difficult. We gave it away. But
now this is who we are and I'm feeling really
good going into Game three. There's stuff for both teams
to say, we feel great about this, but overall, yeah,
I said, Lakers and six Lakers one. I feel great

(33:42):
about that right now. I feel great about them going
home and being able to do you don't feel and
Lebron being able to have big games.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
You don't feel a little lesser after this beatdown. No, no,
So you're creating all losses the same now that we're doing.
I mean, I know they showed the graphic immediately thereafter that.
I'm sure got your eyes and attention that the Lakers
have won their last nine games in series tied one
to one. So you got that going. It'll be ten soon,

(34:08):
Mike nicely done? Why because the Lakers are bleeping back?
There you go, Jason, if you're the Lakers on this one,
it's very simple. You burn the damn tape and you
moved again. To you well, there is a lot of that.
I mean, one thing to take out of it is,
you know, mentioning the Warriors and the six players in
double figures. Thompson Curry had leading the way, but thirty

(34:30):
eight assists on forty eight makes so back to the
ball movement and open man that has made them so
deadly time and time again. Didn't have the ability to
stop the ball, pressure the ball, as we saw in
Game one. Anthony Davis, more of a spectator in this one,
did finish with only eleven points, five of eleven from

(34:51):
the field, seven boards, and a minus twenty two. Lebron
again minus twenty seven, a lot of barking at the
referees and complaining along the way. Lebron James did not
shoot a single free throw in this game.

Speaker 3 (35:06):
Damn tame.

Speaker 1 (35:07):
Not a lot of free throws overall out of sixteen
and ten out of seventeen.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
Thirty and the Warriors lost the turnover battle.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
Yeah, I still, I still feel great if I'm the Lakers,
I said, Lakers and six sticking with it? What is it?

Speaker 2 (35:21):
Five bucks just to get into building? Right?

Speaker 1 (35:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (35:25):
You know what's gonna be in the building.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
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