May 6, 2023 • 33 mins
Mike and Ryan discuss the NBA playoffs with games going on and bring in Jason Cole for some NFL.
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As you heard Big Voice guys say, there is no
Jason Smith to night. It's made by carbon alongside a
man who worked in the paint works, along side many
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an NBA luminary and is one himself broadcasting down in
the planet Houston. That's where he joins us tonight. It's
our guy, Ryan Hollins. Find him on Twitter at the Rollins.
What's going on, big man? What's happening?
Speaker 4 (01:22):
What's going on? Brother man? It's been some time, man.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Yeah, other than a quick little back and forth yesterday,
I mean it's been a minute since we've been able
to chop it up. You being on the road and
chronicling an NBA regular season, a long, tireless journey. Does
it take a lot out of you, like when you
were playing, when you got a hustle like that?
Speaker 4 (01:42):
In some ways it may take more. You know, when
you're playing, you're in rhythm, you have a schedule, and
it sounds weird, but when the guys are playing and
working out, you know, you're just sitting in your seat
for about seven or eight hours in a suit.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
So is it something to do with you also have
no control over any of it, whereas at least when
you were playing, you're like, I could try.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Well, you have to actually schedule workouts, you know, you
kind of take that for granted. Well, you played the NBA.
Your job with the workout, so you're in shape and
there are a bunch of people that would, you know,
help you go work out and go do this, go
do When you're on the road, you are, like I said,
you're sitting for the majority of the time. So you
you know, once you're done sitting, you have to take
that time to make effort to go and do the
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other things that you need to do to kind of
stay healthy. You know, I guess this growing up thing
is kind of hard man.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
That freshman fifteen or whatever you used to call it.
Maybe it's not twenty, I don't know, depending on what
kind of sandwiches and other sundry items are being brought
to you. Final four minutes of this one as the
Sixers showing a lot of fight here late one hundred
and ninety six, and it's Joe lmbad. We've had a
lot of questions on what his health was, Doc riverside
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he's good and Bead said, wow, it was supposed to
be out four to six weeks trying to you know,
puff himself up. Like we talked about a little bit
yesterday when you joined us. Ryan, you know, never want
to question injuries, but there's always just a all right
explained to me? Right we always just want more knowledge,
more information, and not through some source. The thing with
the guy in the place anonymously, you're hoping folks are
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straight with you, but you know there's gamesmanship with it.
Grant Williams comes back and he's still playing after taking
a Size seventeen to the head. I don't know if
you saw that play. Body's crashing about a minute ago
and game action goes down to the ground and Embiid
trying to get out of the way, SiZ seventeen like
he was part of WWE SmackDown Friday Night. He is
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a big WWE fan, so it only fits and it's
only appropriate, but that Al Horford has just been money
from the on the arc and has the answer for
everything Embiid's got.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Yeah, a large part people don't remember Al Horford came
back to Boston because he was probably the best, you know,
least in the East Conference that at guarding Joel Embiid.
Now Joel is a different Joel and he's grown up since.
But you know, Al's is a steady defender, he's smart,
he can move his feet and you know, I remember
playing against Al and the one thing is just Al
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was just that he was a steady pro like you're
not surprised by the success he's had. But he's there
in the lineup because he is the guy to guarden
bead and that's you know, really kept him in the NBA.
And yeah, he's one of these heart beats here of
the Celtics.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Six of eight from the field for Horford and twenty
eight minutes, played five of seven from three point range
for his seventeen points, all five starters for Boston and
double figures. Broggden picking it up a little bit rough
shooting night overall four of twelve from the field and
a minus five, but he's up to thirteen points as
Celtics doing everything they can to try to bring this
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one down the stretch. You know, get all those Kentucky
Derby analogies in when you've got a horse that's out
front and you're just trying to ride it to the end,
trying to get to the finish line. Kenny hold on,
Kenny hold On. It's a little shaky for the Sixers,
still waiting to see whether Maxi and or James Harden
can have any kind of impact because they've been invisible
for two straight games. Here, Ryan after the heroics particularly
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of Harden in Game one another rough shooting Night two
of twelve. And it doesn't help that the timing of a,
oh yeah, he could geek go to Vegas. Yeah, Doc
Rivers allowed him to go to Vegas a La Rodman
ahead of this series. They had a couple of days off,
so it makes sense. But when you've got a guy
who's got the history and the reputation of a James Harden,
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is that the wisest move for the optics, Not that
you'd necessarily care yourself, but what it means and the
weight it carries for the rest of your team to
perhaps have to answer for that stuff.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
No, the optics are never good, but it's a reality
that's actually common for guys. And you know sometimes listen,
everybody's different. For Ryan Hollins, when I played, I had
to be in my room early in sleep and get
a good night's rest. Er I'd be no good to you.
But you know there's certain guys that you know, getting out,
getting some fresh air, clearing their head. That's just a
part of it. And then he dropped forty five in
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that game, so apparently things worked out in the right way.
But yes, for the optics, there's still people to the
end of time, they're gonna go, well, they lost because
he went and did this, is and this, and it's like, no,
he's been doing that his entire career. That's just kind
of James Harden's makeup, and I don't think it would
be wise of going changing it. But you know, James
has had a lot of success, So even though he
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may not have a bad game, I would not say
that's necessarily why now.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
So it's just always when you can add the anecdotal.
Oh and by the way, he had a nice run
in Vegas to your point, he did add that great
for first game, So maybe the adrenaline and the shall
we say, the high that came off of that road
through game one and then what was the old Burgess
meritith line in Rocky Women weakend legs twelve points, six rebounds,
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ten assists, an a minus seven for him, and then
maxi is four of fifteen from the field. He also
had a big game one. But this one feels like
it's got some weight, Like nothing has any of the
grandiose expectations and trumpets that Lakers Warriors does. Obviously, but
this one nice, hotly contested and even not playing great basketball,
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and we could do a lot of box score reading
just from a body language over there watching it, you know,
energy plays. It seemed to be all Boston. Yet Philly's
still hanging around, just down seven. And Joel Embiid just
willing his way through whatever that injury may or may
not be. Twenty eight and twelve right now and eleven
to twelve from the foul line, getting seemingly whatever he
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wants against his Boston defense.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
Yeah, and Joel's on fire, and I think the big
issue in Philadelphia and I don't know if it's an
Embiid thing. I don't know if it's a hardened thing
or just a time thing, but they just don't play
well together. You hadn't seen that one to two stocked
him alone type of punch, and I think that's the
the question mark where you're going, Hey, Joel set out,
we got our win, he's the MVP, he's the best
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player in the league. Something there is not adding up.
So you know, we'll see as that develops. But you
just don't see James being as aggressive as he was,
you know, when Joel was out, and it's like, okay,
how can you get that game one Harden with Joel
back and I think that's something that Doc Rivers is
still trying to figure out and keep in mind teams
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their game planning and scheming for.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
It, trying to figure out how to pull those strings.
We just had a sequence Harden with a great steal
along the baseline as the Celtics drove in. It gets
the ball up to Embiid who kicks it back to
him and he finally drains a three. Unfortunately, the Celtics
had a quick answer for it, so the lead back
out to nine as we come inside of we had
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one thirty two remaining in this one, Ryan, And it's
an interesting series because we know the histories I mentioned
that of James Harden and certain us being stationed or
our studios in Los Angeles, and you having been out
here quite a long time in your lifetime, you know
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the narratives going around Doc, the Clippers and everything else where.
People were trying to figure out, all right, how does
he get over because that title with the Celtics is
well lifetime ago. We know that. And for Joel Embiid,
he finally gets the MVP. He's a guy who's been
vocal about that's what he wanted, and now trying to
put these pieces together to move forward against a team
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that we presumed all sorts of great things coming into
the year, only to have them have to make a
coaching change to get things started. And then you had
a little ebb and flow in rumors of malcontentedness between
Tatum and Brown. Is that something that was pervasive? You
know as you talk to folks throughout the year in
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your travels that you know, as much as we liked
what was going up on the scoreboard, that there was
anything there or was that all kind of just drawn
up for media's sake.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Well, in terms of Bosston, it is tough. You know,
whenever you're working for a championship, every little thing has
to go right, and when you have, you know, just
kind of issues in the preseason or during the season,
you never want to have that. And sometimes obviously you
see teams go out and work through it. And I
think we can both agree that, you know, we've seen
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the most parody in the league, and when there's just
such a tight margin, you want to say that that
may be the difference, you know, in mentality, and if
we're gonna nitpick at Boston, I think they have the
most talented team in the entire playoffs. There's no question.
I thought last year they were more even more talented
than Golden State. But what they have been this year,
more so than last year, was inconsistent and sometimes in a
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couple games they just do not and have not showed up.
But you know, when they're on their a game, you
can argue they're the league's best because they can defend
you their Versatilen they got a number of guys who
play together that can score the basketball. And I think
that the argument right now is, Okay, you want to
see Jason Tatum just take over, be the guy, and
he's getting hot right here in a pivotal game. But
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I think their offense is just driving, click kick, free flowing,
you know, saying off the ball, and you know you
don't want to just go and they become tough to
guard when they're hot because you can't just focus and
load your defenses towards Jason Tatum. And they do have
other guys that step up, so you know, I think
what's key for Boston is turning their weaknesses into strengths,
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and their strength right now compared to other teams is
in numbers.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
He's Ryan Hollins in for Jason Smith at the Ryan
Hollins where you find them. Ten year NBA VET and
of course working alongside the Houston Rockets calling games and
our analyst here Fox Sports Radio. Good to have him
in the mix here on a beautiful Friday night. We're
just getting warmed up watching the end of this game.
We've got Denver Phoenix still to come tonight. Yes, previews
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of what we'll see. How much talk do we have
to do? Did you get a notice about contracting?
Speaker 4 (12:03):
Not much? No, no, no, no, I didn't go crazy
with the Knicks talk man. I know you guys are
pumped up, but we do have to.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
No, no, you know I have to. I'm forced to.
I'm not from New York. I'm a Chicago guy. My
team doesn't matter anymore.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
Shout out, how about a Fresco man.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Living and dying with his squads. We'll be able to
make fun of him over the course of the night,
no question about it, and our next guest will be
more than happy to do that. Our buddy Jason Cole,
joins us for our weekly Friday visit. Coming up next here,
The Jason Smith Show with Me Mike Carmon on Fox
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write him down, I promise you. Let's go.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
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Speaker 3 (13:15):
Welcome back in It's Fox Sports Radio Jason Smith Show
with Me Mike Harmon. No Jason Smith tonight. Instead, we're
going into the low Post. We're bringing in our guy,
Ryan Hollins, analysts for the Rockets, played in the league
for a decade, longtime friend of the show. Good to
have him back in the mix as we get deeper
into these fun and exciting NBA playoffs. Celtics one fourteen
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one oh two Ryan, No matter what Joel Embiid tried
to bring to the table, too much by the Boston
Celtics as they reclaim home home court advantage. Now two
straight wins and the Sixers left trying to find some answers.
We're gonna head out to the hotline as we come
to you from the tyrack dot com Sudos. We've got
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our buddy, Jason Cole, a long time NFL insider. He
is a Hall of Fame voter. That's right, we're upgrading
him back to Hall of Fame voter. OutKick where you
read him And I have a book arriving tomorrow called
Shut Up Your Kid's Not That great paperback available on Amazon.
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Can't wait to read it, Jay Cole, Welcome back in
for the usual Friday follies. What's going on?
Speaker 5 (14:29):
So? I think that Smith is just walking the streets
of New York going. Is that what he's doing?
Speaker 3 (14:36):
No, that's it. He's banging on glass, He's banging on windows.
He's got he's waving his shirt around like a helicopter,
you name it, the whole nine yards. He's trying to
get those photo ops since Rogers. Seems like every day
he's popping up like Waldo anymore.
Speaker 5 (14:50):
I can say Smith just like popping up behind Rogers's
head at the next game. Can you see that you
could just here I am. Now the question is what
he's going to follow him all over the country during
the half the time that he's not at practices.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
What did you make of that line? Right, let's start there.
I tried to highlight it, and Smith got all mad
at me. But I'm like, that's actually fairly significant. What
a guy's like, Yeah, I'll be there halftime, maybe a
little more than halftime.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
I don't kill my buzz Rogers, Rogers and kill my bus.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Don't do it.
Speaker 5 (15:25):
Don't do it.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
See Ryan Ja Cole gets it.
Speaker 5 (15:30):
Oh absolutely, Oh absolutely one Like, I just gotta ask
question like you had. You've been paraded around New York.
You know, you're going everywhere. You're ingratiating yourself to New
York society. I mean, you're going to significant NIX games
which haven't happened in twenty years. You know, you're just
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really trying to be that guy. And then all of
a sudden, it's like, yeah, maybe I'll be half the
time at least that I'll be here at least time
the time I'm all in, I really am all in.
I'm half stepping all in. And then that's where it's
not Rogers, it's Rogerson, Rogers, Rogers. He's still Rogers. So
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I mean, like, I just don't understand, like does Rogers understand, like,
this is your legacy that's on the line. This is
you know, super Bowls do matter whether you're considered the
greatest quarterback of all time and not just like the
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greatest thrower of all time. You know, the guy who
can make the the weird rolling to your left, falling
out of bounds, fire it to the tight end along
the sideline, which he did in Dallas, which is still
one of the most amazing throws I've ever seen in
my life from like thirty yards away, right, I mean, yeah,
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he can do things with a football that you know,
there's what five humans in the world can do with it, right,
throw it like he's a shortstop going up the middle,
stuff like that. But that's like that's just the showman
part of it. There's the winning part of it, and
I just don't know if that he understands the winning
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part of it. As he goes through finding his essence
as a human being in the darkness spaces and stuff
like that.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
Do you feel like watching the Aaron Rodgers move that
he's doing similar that we've seen in my in my opinion,
a little bit of you know, Kevin Durant kind of
follows Lebron. Hey, you know, Lebron goes to Cleveland, picks
his guys, makes the trades and goes and wins the
championship in Cleveland. He goes to La trades away to
young pieces, makes things happen. Kevin Durant goes to Brooklyn,
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makes things happen there. Now he's with the Suns. Do
you think that Aaron Rodgers was looking at Tom Brady
and saying, I can do this in New York or
do you think it's Rogers.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
I think it's they got tired, you know, like the
act got tired, and they got tired of each other
in Green Bay. I think that a divorce was necessary
at that point in time because he lost faith in
the l floor you could see it on his face.
In fact, he lost faith with Lafleur probably in the
twenty twenty season when they lost at home to Tampa.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Right now, when they set the field goal unit out there,
I've been crying about that for three years.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
Oh he because he even I mean he made a
veiled shot at that on Jeopardy when he appear, you know,
like like he's not forgotten that, and the yelling he
did at Lafleur this off. You know, during the season,
Lecher was straight up he didn't respect him anymore. And
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I think that everybody around Green Bay realized that and said, Okay,
it's time. It's time. It's time for him to go.
We're not going to fire a coach who's you know,
won so many games over his first four years. Not
that I think the little floor is a great coach or.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Not, but.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
They're not going to They're not going to do that
when they want to keep stability and they know that
Rogers is basically a year to year and who's going
to you know, let him go be some of somebody
else's problem for a year or two before he walks
off and you know again gets chased around the country
by Smith, Yeah, looking for you know, looking for photo
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ops and stuff like that. I mean, how much money
do you think Smith can do make doing that? Is it?
Is it somewhat equal to the radio gig or is
it Is it close? I mean, is it? Is it
a little short of that?
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Well? I think it's kind of like paying a daily
cameo to Rogers to be able to do that, right,
he was. Otherwise there's probably security detail that's going to
end up tackling him.
Speaker 5 (19:57):
Well, isn't that Smith on the the website cameo basically
is looking for that shot with Rogers to legitimize his cameo.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Oh that's right, that's right. Yeah, he's crowdsourcing to say, hey,
I will stalk Aaron Rodgers to tell him how great
he is and how chronicle is every move. But you
have to it's crowdsourcing.
Speaker 5 (20:20):
Right, Basically, I'm going to sell all my story here.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
The website, you you fund it.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
I will tell you all about it for a fee.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
That's right. You fund his hotel work and his big Max.
That's exactly right. All right, So let's go to another quarterback,
because these things resolve themselves before the draft, right, Rogers
gets traded. Fine, Lamar Jackson signed his deal. But this
week we get some fun folly in terms of hey this,
I'm gonna throw that football a little from.
Speaker 5 (20:51):
A thousand yards? Why did why do you set that.
Why did he set the goal so low?
Speaker 3 (20:56):
That's what I went now, nearly double his career.
Speaker 6 (21:00):
I can't we do something like I mean, come on, Lamar,
do something challenging like eight thousand Just you know, why
not average five hundred yards a game?
Speaker 5 (21:13):
Why not say that you can do that? What was
the thing about? Hey, how about win a Super Bowl?
Should we do that? Well? Could we?
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Just?
Speaker 5 (21:23):
I mean, I just I'm just you know, I'm just.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
Saying, you know, you more efficient in the playoffs would
probably be the first thing Baltimore fans.
Speaker 5 (21:30):
Yeah, yeah, Like, how about when some playoff games you
do that? Do that win win a championship? And he's
fully capable. I'm not saying he's not. I'm just saying,
shouldn't that be the goal? Not the six thousand yards?
I mean, because now that you've been paid your are
you thinking in the back of your mind, Oh, I
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got approved to everybody, they're really a pastor. No, just
be a really great player and make the passes you
need to make in significant games. Now, I have doubts
that he's capable of against great defenses because he hasn't
done it yet in the playoffs. So until he does it.
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But he's very much deserving that contract. But focus on
the thing that's the most important, which is how about
that super Bowl thing?
Speaker 4 (22:21):
You know.
Speaker 5 (22:25):
Going on? I mean, if you want something, all.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
Right, we're having a little bit of issue with Jay
Coles little transistor radio or whatever he's he's hand radio
that he's operating over there. Ryan suddenly got a little
bit garbled. Maybe it's Aaron Rodgers and Smith coming back
on him.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
They they got him fired up. Man, he's ready to
go for six thousand yards.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Think about that six thousand yards when you're playing twelve
games a year. Man, I'm in five hundred yards a game. Look,
Todd Mounkin will have to be a wizard to come
pull that off.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
I think Lamar got paid in there. That's a little
bit of the you know, do what I want type
of money. So I think he's just happy. Man, he
is new money. Let him enjoy himself.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
Man, Oh no, I got look in the end, it
played out exactly like I thought it would go out
in the non exclusive tag and and we talk about
all the different permutations of these cbs. But hey, can
Todd Monkin coax five hundred yards a game? Because he
only plays twelve.
Speaker 5 (23:31):
I think you want to throw the six thousand in
eleven games. I think that's part of the whole thing,
all right, after you go eleven, After you go eleven,
and I was to start the season, then you wraps
for a month and a half and you get ready
for the playoffs and just gear up.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Was that a shot at management in the NBA? And
my no, host Ryan, No.
Speaker 5 (23:54):
Not really, but you can kick it that way and
it wouldn't be wrong. Let's just say that not necessarily
be wrong. I'm not I'm not saying it's not broadside, Ryan.
It just is what it is. Okay, It's just you know,
let's just call it what it is. Okay, We're gonna
play half the season. That's what we can do. Look,
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I just here, what I really want Lamar Jackson to
displayin is what's going on inside Antonio Brown's brank. Like,
if we're going to ask people to do really hard things,
answer that question.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
You know what with the one hundred and eighty five
guaranteed he could pay Antonio Brown's players if you pick
up some of those tabs over in the counts in
a rears kind of thing for those that are where
Antonio Brown now saying, hey, I'm an owner of a team,
but evidently Ryan he's not cutting any checks.
Speaker 5 (24:49):
No, no, that he might have to get a loan
from Lamar to cover the payroll for the for the
Albany team. Lamar Jackson got paid. He deserve to get paid,
and he played out the process the way he's supposed
to play out the process. Yea, and good for both sides.
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If he had had an agent, this all would have
been done at least a year ago, if not longer.
And you know, a lot less damaging along the way,
you know, a lot less mistrust not having you know this,
that's silly thing where I'm I'm asking for a trade here,
you're a free agent. You can you can go time
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with another team. That's that can be negotiated. You know
they've already given you permission to go out and get
effectively a trade. You don't have to ask them. So
the Shenanigans are over with that one. I'm just I'm
hoping Lamar Jackson like finds the focus for things, not
having to prove that he's a great, great passer, but
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just prove that you can win a super Bowl, which
is hard enough.
Speaker 4 (25:58):
Cool how about your Lakers, man? Can you can they
win this game? Three?
Speaker 5 (26:01):
What?
Speaker 4 (26:01):
What's what's the difference in the game?
Speaker 5 (26:03):
You man?
Speaker 4 (26:04):
Is is it a D? Is it Lebron?
Speaker 3 (26:07):
What?
Speaker 4 (26:07):
What is it? Is it?
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Staff?
Speaker 5 (26:08):
Talk to me, Well, it's a D. I mean everything
revolves around a D because he's the matchup problem, right.
You know, you can't Looney can't come out and cover
him if he plays outside, and Draymond shouldn't be able
to but they allowed Draymond to push him around. And
the other thing about is a D plays basically puts
on a show every other night. And I don't know
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why that is, because he's a fabulous player. I mean,
he's he's awesome. But you know, I said it before
the game to we were sitting in a bar talking
about it, and a friend of mine goes, well, what's
going to happen? I said, I have a hard time
believing that a D can have two great games back
to back. And he did. And he was a non
factor for you know, the first half. He did a
(26:53):
little something in the third quarter, and then you know
that was done after about eight minutes. So yeah, it's
about eight Lebron's gonna score, get his you don't have
to worry about that. But Ad is the guy who
who it all turns on him, and whether he's able
to abuse Graymond.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
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Me Mike Harmon. Here on a beautiful Friday night. NBA
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lot of NBA on the docket and some crossover topics
as well. Dan Woyke's gonna join us next hour before
(29:11):
the show ends. We'll roll the dice and see if
we can't pick a Derby winner from the list of
entrance for tomorrow. My brother's on site as they are
every year, taking in all the action. Today a big
racing card. Hopefully folks hit him hard. If you were
doing that kind of like day trading used to be
with the stock market. Maybe you're making some wagers on
(29:32):
some paramutual wagering. As you go, Ryan Hollins, but one
I wanted to bring from the NFL world, get your
perspective in. Ryan Tannehill once again finds himself with a
rookie quarterback coming on board in Tennessee. This year they
draft Will Levis. Last year it was Malik Willis, and
after last year's draft, Tannehill's thing is, look, we're gonna
(29:54):
study tape, We're gonna do this, we're gonna compete in practices.
And I'm paraphrasing. If he's able to learn something from me, great,
but it's not my job to mentor him. Fast forward,
he's got that challenge once again. Will Levis, a guy
that had draft ratings all over the place, rumor conjecture
speculation anywhere as high as one. Oh. He goes number
(30:15):
thirty three overall. But take it to the NBA. You
played in the league a decade and you were around
a youthful squad there in Houston this year. Mentorship and mentoring,
you know, especially when you got guys that might be
underaged on the squad. How does that work in the
NBA locker room to locker room in terms of trying
(30:36):
to get policies, procedures and habits underway.
Speaker 4 (30:40):
Here's the thing. NBA is much different than NFL. Once
that rookie takes your job, it's done, it's gone, and
that's their livelihood. So you know, Tannehill, he loses his job,
he's likely, you know, out of a job. It is
an ugly situation there because what else are you going
(31:00):
to do. Some frown upon the mentality. You heard it
from even the great Ben Roethlisberger, saman I am mentor
at nobody. I'm not here for that. And yet you
do have some guys who are willing to take that
role and stayed in a mentorship role and you know,
had their headset all very proud and you know, made
careers out of it. But you do have to understand
(31:21):
that that's not the norm for everybody.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
No, sure, it's it's that hard part because you were
you were the guy since you were what twelve years old,
ten years old, whatever, it was, the star on your
AAU team all the way through that we watch now
and for NBA purposes, the way that the draft roles
and guys entering the league so young, you know, I
got to imagine there's some other considerations that come into effect.
(31:46):
But you know, at the end, as you say, everybody's
competing for playing time, for jobs, and for contracts, and
especially in an age where the guarantees are so so hefty.
Just wondering how how that flows in a locker room
or if it's just this unspoken just do your thing,
I'll do mine, and we'll play credit card roulette if
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we have to go out to eat together.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
Everybody's different. I think for me, the type of player
that I was, I felt like mentoring somebody or just
helping out a teammate. I wouldn't feel right if I
didn't do that. But logically it's not the smartest move
because if you help another guy out getting confidence, he's
gonna be taking your job. So I think it's just
(32:30):
a thing of morality. I think you got to be
who you are. I don't think it has to be personal.
But at the end of the day, it's a business,
and I'm not mad at anything that I hear. Now,
if you're hating on a guy, you're undermining somebody, or
you're you know, you're you're doing something despite someone's career,
that's different. But if you're saying, you know what, I
don't feel obligated to help this guy out. And also
(32:53):
maybe one of the expectations from the front office, Hey,
if they're there to go out and compete for a
starting spot, he should be able.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
To do so, no question. Hey, just remember to teach
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man who worked in the paint works, along side many
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an NBA luminary and is one himself broadcasting down in
the planet Houston. That's where he joins us tonight. It's
our guy, Ryan Hollins. Find him on Twitter at the Rollins.
What's going on, big man? What's happening?
Speaker 4 (01:22):
What's going on? Brother man? It's been some time, man.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Yeah, other than a quick little back and forth yesterday,
I mean it's been a minute since we've been able
to chop it up. You being on the road and
chronicling an NBA regular season, a long, tireless journey. Does
it take a lot out of you, like when you
were playing, when you got a hustle like that?
Speaker 4 (01:42):
In some ways it may take more. You know, when
you're playing, you're in rhythm, you have a schedule, and
it sounds weird, but when the guys are playing and
working out, you know, you're just sitting in your seat
for about seven or eight hours in a suit.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
So is it something to do with you also have
no control over any of it, whereas at least when
you were playing, you're like, I could try.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Well, you have to actually schedule workouts, you know, you
kind of take that for granted. Well, you played the NBA.
Your job with the workout, so you're in shape and
there are a bunch of people that would, you know,
help you go work out and go do this, go
do When you're on the road, you are, like I said,
you're sitting for the majority of the time. So you
you know, once you're done sitting, you have to take
that time to make effort to go and do the
(02:27):
other things that you need to do to kind of
stay healthy. You know, I guess this growing up thing
is kind of hard man.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
That freshman fifteen or whatever you used to call it.
Maybe it's not twenty, I don't know, depending on what
kind of sandwiches and other sundry items are being brought
to you. Final four minutes of this one as the
Sixers showing a lot of fight here late one hundred
and ninety six, and it's Joe lmbad. We've had a
lot of questions on what his health was, Doc riverside
(02:56):
he's good and Bead said, wow, it was supposed to
be out four to six weeks trying to you know,
puff himself up. Like we talked about a little bit
yesterday when you joined us. Ryan, you know, never want
to question injuries, but there's always just a all right
explained to me? Right we always just want more knowledge,
more information, and not through some source. The thing with
the guy in the place anonymously, you're hoping folks are
(03:19):
straight with you, but you know there's gamesmanship with it.
Grant Williams comes back and he's still playing after taking
a Size seventeen to the head. I don't know if
you saw that play. Body's crashing about a minute ago
and game action goes down to the ground and Embiid
trying to get out of the way, SiZ seventeen like
he was part of WWE SmackDown Friday Night. He is
(03:41):
a big WWE fan, so it only fits and it's
only appropriate, but that Al Horford has just been money
from the on the arc and has the answer for
everything Embiid's got.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Yeah, a large part people don't remember Al Horford came
back to Boston because he was probably the best, you know,
least in the East Conference that at guarding Joel Embiid.
Now Joel is a different Joel and he's grown up since.
But you know, Al's is a steady defender, he's smart,
he can move his feet and you know, I remember
playing against Al and the one thing is just Al
(04:12):
was just that he was a steady pro like you're
not surprised by the success he's had. But he's there
in the lineup because he is the guy to guarden
bead and that's you know, really kept him in the NBA.
And yeah, he's one of these heart beats here of
the Celtics.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Six of eight from the field for Horford and twenty
eight minutes, played five of seven from three point range
for his seventeen points, all five starters for Boston and
double figures. Broggden picking it up a little bit rough
shooting night overall four of twelve from the field and
a minus five, but he's up to thirteen points as
Celtics doing everything they can to try to bring this
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one down the stretch. You know, get all those Kentucky
Derby analogies in when you've got a horse that's out
front and you're just trying to ride it to the end,
trying to get to the finish line. Kenny hold on,
Kenny hold On. It's a little shaky for the Sixers,
still waiting to see whether Maxi and or James Harden
can have any kind of impact because they've been invisible
for two straight games. Here, Ryan after the heroics particularly
(05:13):
of Harden in Game one another rough shooting Night two
of twelve. And it doesn't help that the timing of a,
oh yeah, he could geek go to Vegas. Yeah, Doc
Rivers allowed him to go to Vegas a La Rodman
ahead of this series. They had a couple of days off,
so it makes sense. But when you've got a guy
who's got the history and the reputation of a James Harden,
(05:34):
is that the wisest move for the optics, Not that
you'd necessarily care yourself, but what it means and the
weight it carries for the rest of your team to
perhaps have to answer for that stuff.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
No, the optics are never good, but it's a reality
that's actually common for guys. And you know sometimes listen,
everybody's different. For Ryan Hollins, when I played, I had
to be in my room early in sleep and get
a good night's rest. Er I'd be no good to you.
But you know there's certain guys that you know, getting out,
getting some fresh air, clearing their head. That's just a
part of it. And then he dropped forty five in
(06:05):
that game, so apparently things worked out in the right way.
But yes, for the optics, there's still people to the
end of time, they're gonna go, well, they lost because
he went and did this, is and this, and it's like, no,
he's been doing that his entire career. That's just kind
of James Harden's makeup, and I don't think it would
be wise of going changing it. But you know, James
has had a lot of success, So even though he
(06:26):
may not have a bad game, I would not say
that's necessarily why now.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
So it's just always when you can add the anecdotal.
Oh and by the way, he had a nice run
in Vegas to your point, he did add that great
for first game, So maybe the adrenaline and the shall
we say, the high that came off of that road
through game one and then what was the old Burgess
meritith line in Rocky Women weakend legs twelve points, six rebounds,
(06:53):
ten assists, an a minus seven for him, and then
maxi is four of fifteen from the field. He also
had a big game one. But this one feels like
it's got some weight, Like nothing has any of the
grandiose expectations and trumpets that Lakers Warriors does. Obviously, but
this one nice, hotly contested and even not playing great basketball,
(07:17):
and we could do a lot of box score reading
just from a body language over there watching it, you know,
energy plays. It seemed to be all Boston. Yet Philly's
still hanging around, just down seven. And Joel Embiid just
willing his way through whatever that injury may or may
not be. Twenty eight and twelve right now and eleven
to twelve from the foul line, getting seemingly whatever he
(07:41):
wants against his Boston defense.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
Yeah, and Joel's on fire, and I think the big
issue in Philadelphia and I don't know if it's an
Embiid thing. I don't know if it's a hardened thing
or just a time thing, but they just don't play
well together. You hadn't seen that one to two stocked
him alone type of punch, and I think that's the
the question mark where you're going, Hey, Joel set out,
we got our win, he's the MVP, he's the best
(08:05):
player in the league. Something there is not adding up.
So you know, we'll see as that develops. But you
just don't see James being as aggressive as he was,
you know, when Joel was out, and it's like, okay,
how can you get that game one Harden with Joel
back and I think that's something that Doc Rivers is
still trying to figure out and keep in mind teams
(08:26):
their game planning and scheming for.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
It, trying to figure out how to pull those strings.
We just had a sequence Harden with a great steal
along the baseline as the Celtics drove in. It gets
the ball up to Embiid who kicks it back to
him and he finally drains a three. Unfortunately, the Celtics
had a quick answer for it, so the lead back
out to nine as we come inside of we had
(08:49):
one thirty two remaining in this one, Ryan, And it's
an interesting series because we know the histories I mentioned
that of James Harden and certain us being stationed or
our studios in Los Angeles, and you having been out
here quite a long time in your lifetime, you know
(09:09):
the narratives going around Doc, the Clippers and everything else where.
People were trying to figure out, all right, how does
he get over because that title with the Celtics is
well lifetime ago. We know that. And for Joel Embiid,
he finally gets the MVP. He's a guy who's been
vocal about that's what he wanted, and now trying to
put these pieces together to move forward against a team
(09:32):
that we presumed all sorts of great things coming into
the year, only to have them have to make a
coaching change to get things started. And then you had
a little ebb and flow in rumors of malcontentedness between
Tatum and Brown. Is that something that was pervasive? You
know as you talk to folks throughout the year in
(09:53):
your travels that you know, as much as we liked
what was going up on the scoreboard, that there was
anything there or was that all kind of just drawn
up for media's sake.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Well, in terms of Bosston, it is tough. You know,
whenever you're working for a championship, every little thing has
to go right, and when you have, you know, just
kind of issues in the preseason or during the season,
you never want to have that. And sometimes obviously you
see teams go out and work through it. And I
think we can both agree that, you know, we've seen
(10:24):
the most parody in the league, and when there's just
such a tight margin, you want to say that that
may be the difference, you know, in mentality, and if
we're gonna nitpick at Boston, I think they have the
most talented team in the entire playoffs. There's no question.
I thought last year they were more even more talented
than Golden State. But what they have been this year,
more so than last year, was inconsistent and sometimes in a
(10:47):
couple games they just do not and have not showed up.
But you know, when they're on their a game, you
can argue they're the league's best because they can defend
you their Versatilen they got a number of guys who
play together that can score the basketball. And I think
that the argument right now is, Okay, you want to
see Jason Tatum just take over, be the guy, and
he's getting hot right here in a pivotal game. But
(11:09):
I think their offense is just driving, click kick, free flowing,
you know, saying off the ball, and you know you
don't want to just go and they become tough to
guard when they're hot because you can't just focus and
load your defenses towards Jason Tatum. And they do have
other guys that step up, so you know, I think
what's key for Boston is turning their weaknesses into strengths,
(11:29):
and their strength right now compared to other teams is
in numbers.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
He's Ryan Hollins in for Jason Smith at the Ryan
Hollins where you find them. Ten year NBA VET and
of course working alongside the Houston Rockets calling games and
our analyst here Fox Sports Radio. Good to have him
in the mix here on a beautiful Friday night. We're
just getting warmed up watching the end of this game.
We've got Denver Phoenix still to come tonight. Yes, previews
(11:57):
of what we'll see. How much talk do we have
to do? Did you get a notice about contracting?
Speaker 4 (12:03):
Not much? No, no, no, no, I didn't go crazy
with the Knicks talk man. I know you guys are
pumped up, but we do have to.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
No, no, you know I have to. I'm forced to.
I'm not from New York. I'm a Chicago guy. My
team doesn't matter anymore.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
Shout out, how about a Fresco man.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Living and dying with his squads. We'll be able to
make fun of him over the course of the night,
no question about it, and our next guest will be
more than happy to do that. Our buddy Jason Cole,
joins us for our weekly Friday visit. Coming up next here,
The Jason Smith Show with Me Mike Carmon on Fox
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(12:43):
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of how about a fresca next? You're gonna want to
write him down, I promise you. Let's go.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
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Speaker 3 (13:15):
Welcome back in It's Fox Sports Radio Jason Smith Show
with Me Mike Harmon. No Jason Smith tonight. Instead, we're
going into the low Post. We're bringing in our guy,
Ryan Hollins, analysts for the Rockets, played in the league
for a decade, longtime friend of the show. Good to
have him back in the mix as we get deeper
into these fun and exciting NBA playoffs. Celtics one fourteen
(13:39):
one oh two Ryan, No matter what Joel Embiid tried
to bring to the table, too much by the Boston
Celtics as they reclaim home home court advantage. Now two
straight wins and the Sixers left trying to find some answers.
We're gonna head out to the hotline as we come
to you from the tyrack dot com Sudos. We've got
(14:00):
our buddy, Jason Cole, a long time NFL insider. He
is a Hall of Fame voter. That's right, we're upgrading
him back to Hall of Fame voter. OutKick where you
read him And I have a book arriving tomorrow called
Shut Up Your Kid's Not That great paperback available on Amazon.
(14:22):
Can't wait to read it, Jay Cole, Welcome back in
for the usual Friday follies. What's going on?
Speaker 5 (14:29):
So? I think that Smith is just walking the streets
of New York going. Is that what he's doing?
Speaker 3 (14:36):
No, that's it. He's banging on glass, He's banging on windows.
He's got he's waving his shirt around like a helicopter,
you name it, the whole nine yards. He's trying to
get those photo ops since Rogers. Seems like every day
he's popping up like Waldo anymore.
Speaker 5 (14:50):
I can say Smith just like popping up behind Rogers's
head at the next game. Can you see that you
could just here I am. Now the question is what
he's going to follow him all over the country during
the half the time that he's not at practices.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
What did you make of that line? Right, let's start there.
I tried to highlight it, and Smith got all mad
at me. But I'm like, that's actually fairly significant. What
a guy's like, Yeah, I'll be there halftime, maybe a
little more than halftime.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
I don't kill my buzz Rogers, Rogers and kill my bus.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Don't do it.
Speaker 5 (15:25):
Don't do it.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
See Ryan Ja Cole gets it.
Speaker 5 (15:30):
Oh absolutely, Oh absolutely one Like, I just gotta ask
question like you had. You've been paraded around New York.
You know, you're going everywhere. You're ingratiating yourself to New
York society. I mean, you're going to significant NIX games
which haven't happened in twenty years. You know, you're just
(15:51):
really trying to be that guy. And then all of
a sudden, it's like, yeah, maybe I'll be half the
time at least that I'll be here at least time
the time I'm all in, I really am all in.
I'm half stepping all in. And then that's where it's
not Rogers, it's Rogerson, Rogers, Rogers. He's still Rogers. So
(16:18):
I mean, like, I just don't understand, like does Rogers understand, like,
this is your legacy that's on the line. This is
you know, super Bowls do matter whether you're considered the
greatest quarterback of all time and not just like the
(16:38):
greatest thrower of all time. You know, the guy who
can make the the weird rolling to your left, falling
out of bounds, fire it to the tight end along
the sideline, which he did in Dallas, which is still
one of the most amazing throws I've ever seen in
my life from like thirty yards away, right, I mean, yeah,
(17:00):
he can do things with a football that you know,
there's what five humans in the world can do with it, right,
throw it like he's a shortstop going up the middle,
stuff like that. But that's like that's just the showman
part of it. There's the winning part of it, and
I just don't know if that he understands the winning
(17:24):
part of it. As he goes through finding his essence
as a human being in the darkness spaces and stuff
like that.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
Do you feel like watching the Aaron Rodgers move that
he's doing similar that we've seen in my in my opinion,
a little bit of you know, Kevin Durant kind of
follows Lebron. Hey, you know, Lebron goes to Cleveland, picks
his guys, makes the trades and goes and wins the
championship in Cleveland. He goes to La trades away to
young pieces, makes things happen. Kevin Durant goes to Brooklyn,
(17:56):
makes things happen there. Now he's with the Suns. Do
you think that Aaron Rodgers was looking at Tom Brady
and saying, I can do this in New York or
do you think it's Rogers.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
I think it's they got tired, you know, like the
act got tired, and they got tired of each other
in Green Bay. I think that a divorce was necessary
at that point in time because he lost faith in
the l floor you could see it on his face.
In fact, he lost faith with Lafleur probably in the
twenty twenty season when they lost at home to Tampa.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Right now, when they set the field goal unit out there,
I've been crying about that for three years.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
Oh he because he even I mean he made a
veiled shot at that on Jeopardy when he appear, you know,
like like he's not forgotten that, and the yelling he
did at Lafleur this off. You know, during the season,
Lecher was straight up he didn't respect him anymore. And
(18:53):
I think that everybody around Green Bay realized that and said, Okay,
it's time. It's time. It's time for him to go.
We're not going to fire a coach who's you know,
won so many games over his first four years. Not
that I think the little floor is a great coach or.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Not, but.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
They're not going to They're not going to do that
when they want to keep stability and they know that
Rogers is basically a year to year and who's going
to you know, let him go be some of somebody
else's problem for a year or two before he walks
off and you know again gets chased around the country
by Smith, Yeah, looking for you know, looking for photo
(19:35):
ops and stuff like that. I mean, how much money
do you think Smith can do make doing that? Is it?
Is it somewhat equal to the radio gig or is
it Is it close? I mean, is it? Is it
a little short of that?
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Well? I think it's kind of like paying a daily
cameo to Rogers to be able to do that, right,
he was. Otherwise there's probably security detail that's going to
end up tackling him.
Speaker 5 (19:57):
Well, isn't that Smith on the the website cameo basically
is looking for that shot with Rogers to legitimize his cameo.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Oh that's right, that's right. Yeah, he's crowdsourcing to say, hey,
I will stalk Aaron Rodgers to tell him how great
he is and how chronicle is every move. But you
have to it's crowdsourcing.
Speaker 5 (20:20):
Right, Basically, I'm going to sell all my story here.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
The website, you you fund it.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
I will tell you all about it for a fee.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
That's right. You fund his hotel work and his big Max.
That's exactly right. All right, So let's go to another quarterback,
because these things resolve themselves before the draft, right, Rogers
gets traded. Fine, Lamar Jackson signed his deal. But this
week we get some fun folly in terms of hey this,
I'm gonna throw that football a little from.
Speaker 5 (20:51):
A thousand yards? Why did why do you set that.
Why did he set the goal so low?
Speaker 3 (20:56):
That's what I went now, nearly double his career.
Speaker 6 (21:00):
I can't we do something like I mean, come on, Lamar,
do something challenging like eight thousand Just you know, why
not average five hundred yards a game?
Speaker 5 (21:13):
Why not say that you can do that? What was
the thing about? Hey, how about win a Super Bowl?
Should we do that? Well? Could we?
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Just?
Speaker 5 (21:23):
I mean, I just I'm just you know, I'm just.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
Saying, you know, you more efficient in the playoffs would
probably be the first thing Baltimore fans.
Speaker 5 (21:30):
Yeah, yeah, Like, how about when some playoff games you
do that? Do that win win a championship? And he's
fully capable. I'm not saying he's not. I'm just saying,
shouldn't that be the goal? Not the six thousand yards?
I mean, because now that you've been paid your are
you thinking in the back of your mind, Oh, I
(21:51):
got approved to everybody, they're really a pastor. No, just
be a really great player and make the passes you
need to make in significant games. Now, I have doubts
that he's capable of against great defenses because he hasn't
done it yet in the playoffs. So until he does it.
(22:12):
But he's very much deserving that contract. But focus on
the thing that's the most important, which is how about
that super Bowl thing?
Speaker 4 (22:21):
You know.
Speaker 5 (22:25):
Going on? I mean, if you want something, all.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
Right, we're having a little bit of issue with Jay
Coles little transistor radio or whatever he's he's hand radio
that he's operating over there. Ryan suddenly got a little
bit garbled. Maybe it's Aaron Rodgers and Smith coming back
on him.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
They they got him fired up. Man, he's ready to
go for six thousand yards.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Think about that six thousand yards when you're playing twelve
games a year. Man, I'm in five hundred yards a game. Look,
Todd Mounkin will have to be a wizard to come
pull that off.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
I think Lamar got paid in there. That's a little
bit of the you know, do what I want type
of money. So I think he's just happy. Man, he
is new money. Let him enjoy himself.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
Man, Oh no, I got look in the end, it
played out exactly like I thought it would go out
in the non exclusive tag and and we talk about
all the different permutations of these cbs. But hey, can
Todd Monkin coax five hundred yards a game? Because he
only plays twelve.
Speaker 5 (23:31):
I think you want to throw the six thousand in
eleven games. I think that's part of the whole thing,
all right, after you go eleven, After you go eleven,
and I was to start the season, then you wraps
for a month and a half and you get ready
for the playoffs and just gear up.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Was that a shot at management in the NBA? And
my no, host Ryan, No.
Speaker 5 (23:54):
Not really, but you can kick it that way and
it wouldn't be wrong. Let's just say that not necessarily
be wrong. I'm not I'm not saying it's not broadside, Ryan.
It just is what it is. Okay, It's just you know,
let's just call it what it is. Okay, We're gonna
play half the season. That's what we can do. Look,
(24:16):
I just here, what I really want Lamar Jackson to
displayin is what's going on inside Antonio Brown's brank. Like,
if we're going to ask people to do really hard things,
answer that question.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
You know what with the one hundred and eighty five
guaranteed he could pay Antonio Brown's players if you pick
up some of those tabs over in the counts in
a rears kind of thing for those that are where
Antonio Brown now saying, hey, I'm an owner of a team,
but evidently Ryan he's not cutting any checks.
Speaker 5 (24:49):
No, no, that he might have to get a loan
from Lamar to cover the payroll for the for the
Albany team. Lamar Jackson got paid. He deserve to get paid,
and he played out the process the way he's supposed
to play out the process. Yea, and good for both sides.
(25:10):
If he had had an agent, this all would have
been done at least a year ago, if not longer.
And you know, a lot less damaging along the way,
you know, a lot less mistrust not having you know this,
that's silly thing where I'm I'm asking for a trade here,
you're a free agent. You can you can go time
(25:32):
with another team. That's that can be negotiated. You know
they've already given you permission to go out and get
effectively a trade. You don't have to ask them. So
the Shenanigans are over with that one. I'm just I'm
hoping Lamar Jackson like finds the focus for things, not
having to prove that he's a great, great passer, but
(25:54):
just prove that you can win a super Bowl, which
is hard enough.
Speaker 4 (25:58):
Cool how about your Lakers, man? Can you can they
win this game? Three?
Speaker 5 (26:01):
What?
Speaker 4 (26:01):
What's what's the difference in the game?
Speaker 5 (26:03):
You man?
Speaker 4 (26:04):
Is is it a D? Is it Lebron?
Speaker 3 (26:07):
What?
Speaker 4 (26:07):
What is it? Is it?
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Staff?
Speaker 5 (26:08):
Talk to me, Well, it's a D. I mean everything
revolves around a D because he's the matchup problem, right.
You know, you can't Looney can't come out and cover
him if he plays outside, and Draymond shouldn't be able
to but they allowed Draymond to push him around. And
the other thing about is a D plays basically puts
on a show every other night. And I don't know
(26:30):
why that is, because he's a fabulous player. I mean,
he's he's awesome. But you know, I said it before
the game to we were sitting in a bar talking
about it, and a friend of mine goes, well, what's
going to happen? I said, I have a hard time
believing that a D can have two great games back
to back. And he did. And he was a non
factor for you know, the first half. He did a
(26:53):
little something in the third quarter, and then you know
that was done after about eight minutes. So yeah, it's
about eight Lebron's gonna score, get his you don't have
to worry about that. But Ad is the guy who
who it all turns on him, and whether he's able
to abuse Graymond.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
Greens getting on a plane to go chronicle Jason Smith's
stalking Aaron Rodgers our guy Jason Cole at Jason Cole
sixty two where you find him on Twitter. Go over
to Amazon you can pick up Shut Up, Your kid
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The last one was olwayh A Relentless Life. I've recommended
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Speaker 5 (27:34):
Stuff is My next book is Jason Smith relentlessly chasing
Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
I like that on the pursuit of another big Mac.
All right, go enjoy the games. Talk to you next
waiting brother. That's Jason Cole, Hall of Fame voter, longtime
NFL insider, friend of the show. As you can see,
Ryan gets a little bit loose, gets a little bit
after it. Yeah, you know, and that's okay because because
(28:00):
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Speaker 3 (28:27):
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lot of NBA on the docket and some crossover topics
as well. Dan Woyke's gonna join us next hour before
(29:11):
the show ends. We'll roll the dice and see if
we can't pick a Derby winner from the list of
entrance for tomorrow. My brother's on site as they are
every year, taking in all the action. Today a big
racing card. Hopefully folks hit him hard. If you were
doing that kind of like day trading used to be
with the stock market. Maybe you're making some wagers on
(29:32):
some paramutual wagering. As you go, Ryan Hollins, but one
I wanted to bring from the NFL world, get your
perspective in. Ryan Tannehill once again finds himself with a
rookie quarterback coming on board in Tennessee. This year they
draft Will Levis. Last year it was Malik Willis, and
after last year's draft, Tannehill's thing is, look, we're gonna
(29:54):
study tape, We're gonna do this, we're gonna compete in practices.
And I'm paraphrasing. If he's able to learn something from me, great,
but it's not my job to mentor him. Fast forward,
he's got that challenge once again. Will Levis, a guy
that had draft ratings all over the place, rumor conjecture
speculation anywhere as high as one. Oh. He goes number
(30:15):
thirty three overall. But take it to the NBA. You
played in the league a decade and you were around
a youthful squad there in Houston this year. Mentorship and mentoring,
you know, especially when you got guys that might be
underaged on the squad. How does that work in the
NBA locker room to locker room in terms of trying
(30:36):
to get policies, procedures and habits underway.
Speaker 4 (30:40):
Here's the thing. NBA is much different than NFL. Once
that rookie takes your job, it's done, it's gone, and
that's their livelihood. So you know, Tannehill, he loses his job,
he's likely, you know, out of a job. It is
an ugly situation there because what else are you going
(31:00):
to do. Some frown upon the mentality. You heard it
from even the great Ben Roethlisberger, saman I am mentor
at nobody. I'm not here for that. And yet you
do have some guys who are willing to take that
role and stayed in a mentorship role and you know,
had their headset all very proud and you know, made
careers out of it. But you do have to understand
(31:21):
that that's not the norm for everybody.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
No, sure, it's it's that hard part because you were
you were the guy since you were what twelve years old,
ten years old, whatever, it was, the star on your
AAU team all the way through that we watch now
and for NBA purposes, the way that the draft roles
and guys entering the league so young, you know, I
got to imagine there's some other considerations that come into effect.
(31:46):
But you know, at the end, as you say, everybody's
competing for playing time, for jobs, and for contracts, and
especially in an age where the guarantees are so so hefty.
Just wondering how how that flows in a locker room
or if it's just this unspoken just do your thing,
I'll do mine, and we'll play credit card roulette if
(32:07):
we have to go out to eat together.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
Everybody's different. I think for me, the type of player
that I was, I felt like mentoring somebody or just
helping out a teammate. I wouldn't feel right if I
didn't do that. But logically it's not the smartest move
because if you help another guy out getting confidence, he's
gonna be taking your job. So I think it's just
(32:30):
a thing of morality. I think you got to be
who you are. I don't think it has to be personal.
But at the end of the day, it's a business,
and I'm not mad at anything that I hear. Now,
if you're hating on a guy, you're undermining somebody, or
you're you know, you're you're doing something despite someone's career,
that's different. But if you're saying, you know what, I
don't feel obligated to help this guy out. And also
(32:53):
maybe one of the expectations from the front office, Hey,
if they're there to go out and compete for a
starting spot, he should be able.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
To do so, no question. Hey, just remember to teach
people how to turn a microphone on in radio. Beyond
that open mouth say things. He's Ryan Hollins on Mike
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