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May 26, 2023 40 mins

In hour 2 of the Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon, Jason and Mike catch up with NBA Insider Mark Medina to discuss the Celtic’s comeback against the Heat, if the Heat destined to close out the series, how the Nuggets can deal with the extended break before the Finals, and an update on LeBron James’ injury. Plus, the guys discuss the media’s influence on how we talk about sports, and debate the top 5 Boston movies of all time!

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the Heat. This one was over early, they got up
twenty to five, and now we get ready for Game six.

Speaker 3 (00:59):
We also get ready to welcome inside.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
Longtime NBA insider check him out on Twitter at Mark
g Underscore Medini.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
You can follow him there as well. Mark has to
go a manhouse names.

Speaker 4 (01:10):
Well, things are great I mean, I'm thankful that I
got to watch playoff basketball for another day.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
How about you, guys, Well, I am, but I need
you to help me with something because I really don't understand.
So is this all Joe Mizula's fault or is it
not Joe Mozula's fault. I don't know it's all his fault,
but now they could they're back in this I don't know.
I've been told he's he's horrible, he doesn't know what
he's doing, he doesn't use his timeouts. But here they
are potentially now back in the series. I don't understand.

(01:37):
Is it his fault or not.

Speaker 4 (01:38):
Here's how it breaks it down, Jason, it was Jeel
Mozilla's fault, Joe Mozilla's fault that the Celtics lost the
first three games, but the fact they want the past
two games, all credit goes to the players. He doesn't
get that credit, got it?

Speaker 3 (01:50):
Okay, So I'm I'm glad you settled that for me.

Speaker 5 (01:53):
I'm glad because he took off the heat off of
the players because everybody hated him.

Speaker 3 (01:57):
Good good, good, Okay.

Speaker 4 (01:59):
Two. I mean, well, it's always the combination of both.
I think what was interesting is usually with NBA teams,
it always starts with the players, you know, their effort, level, talent.
But I think what made this whole you know, blame
pie distribution complicated is we saw what the Celtics were
like with with a different head coach last season with
emane A Dooka, and they're a much better team. And

(02:21):
so I think clearly Joe Mazzula did a better job
with prepairing them using the timeouts. But at the end
of the day, the players don't try or care or
you know, treat the game as it's not worth the
damn you're going to get blown out. So they definitely
adjusted as well.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
So when when you watch what's happened the last couple
of nights, you know you came out.

Speaker 3 (02:42):
We talked after Game four.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
He said, listen, it's wonderful to see the effort by
the Celtics and this is what you see when you
actually try, as opposed to what.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
Happened in Game three.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
Is it just that simple that when the Celtics, you know,
when they come up with this effort, I mean, is
that is that all it is for them getting back
in here and where things stand right now.

Speaker 4 (03:00):
Well, it mostly is that I mean, you have everyone
in the starting lineup cracking double figures. It helps that
you're in Boston, so there's you know, a huge, you know, crowd,
atmospheric searing them on. But I think it also goes
down to Miami. I mean, look, Miami is a very
disciplined team, so it's not like they didn't bring the
necessary effort, but they didn't you know, shoot well from

(03:22):
three nine to twenty three, and that adds up in
today's NBA. And so I think the bottom line though,
is that when you look at this entire series, the
Celtics on paper always had a better team. The problem
is they didn't always execute on paper. It was always
them playing down to their competition or looking board, et cetera,

(03:42):
et cetera, where the heat. While I don't think that
they're a number eight seed, they slid down to that
because of Jimmy Butler's injury during the regular season. You know,
I never viewed them as the top in the East either.
So yeah, if the Boston Celtics played up to their potential,
they certainly want to face a three zero deficit.

Speaker 6 (04:02):
Yeah, I'm just calling it the Gave Vincent game and
moving on.

Speaker 4 (04:06):
Well, yeah, I mean you can't like that either. I mean, look,
he's a role player, but he's their third leading scorer
on the team. And Kyle Lowry. He's serviceable, but he's
past his prime. It's a little concerning. I thought sort
of the latter part of the game, he's rubbing his shoulder,
you wonder, okay, is he going to be all right?
And you know they've already been nursing Andrew's to Tyler,

(04:26):
Hero Victor Oladipo. At the end of the day, the heat.
They still have Jimmy Butler, they still have Bam out
of bio. And I think the bigger thing, as I
was mentioned before, as you have Jason Tatam, Marcus Smart,
Jalen Brown, you know Al Horford, all coming ready to
play and locking on both ends of the floor. And
you know that's obviously going to make a difference. And
Derek let's not forget Derek White. I mean, he's had

(04:47):
some struggles earlier, but he really had a good bounce
back game tonight.

Speaker 3 (04:51):
See you look at you in your fight. You didn't
mention Joe Mizoola at all.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
And don't forget Joe Mizzoula, the architect of all of this,
you mentioned all the players.

Speaker 4 (04:59):
You did not mention that, you know, credit works, credits due, right,
And I also, you know, we devoted a whole segment
prior to that about his role. So I'm trying to
distribute the wealth chaos here.

Speaker 5 (05:12):
Look, you mentioned the three point shooting sixteen made for Boston.
You know, sometimes games and series are turned just hey,
the shot starts to fall. What can Spolster do with
a defensive rotation to close off some of those shooting lanes,
particularly against White and Brown who had it going early.

Speaker 4 (05:32):
Yeah, it's really tough because I think with Boston to
really pick your poison. I mean, you can say all
you want, oh, we need to contest shooters out, but
it's really about you know, you know, maximizing full attention
on Tatum and you know Jalen Brown, and look, I
mean I guess part of it worked as great as
Jason Tatum in he was one of six from three,

(05:54):
But the problem is he has such a great game
in other spots. I mean, he's still the mid range guy,
he still attacks the basket. So he got six foul shots.
So yeah, it is a kind of damned if you
do Damned if you don't sort of feel, but that's
you know why Marcus Smart is who he is. He's
always been that decoy player for most of the season.

(06:15):
Derek White, he had had spots during the playoffs, flash
year and this year to do it. But he's been
a little bit up and down. But you know he is.
The stars aligned for him to start knocking some shots,
and they obviously couldn't have come at a better time.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
NB insider Mark Medina with us here The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon. All Right, So with this series
now at three to two, I look at it now
that the Nuggets have qualified after sweeping the Lakers, I
still go back to this. No matter who comes out
of the East, I find them having a hard time
getting a game against the Nuggets.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
And no matter who.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
Comes out here, whether it's the Celtics or the Heat,
I can't see either the beating the beating the Nuggets
in the game.

Speaker 3 (06:54):
I think the Nuggets are going to sweep either of
these teams.

Speaker 4 (06:56):
Oh well, I don't know about sweet, but they're definitely
gonna win the NBA Finals. I mean, look, they haven't
played a game since I guess Monday night. I don't
think that they're going to follow pat Riley's temptation that
he had with the eighty nine Lakers when they had
a week off before the finals and they said, hey,
let's have a mini training camp in Santa Barbara, and
that result in Byron Scott, you know, injuring his hamstring

(07:17):
on a rebound in dro and then Magic Johnson pulling
it in Game one. So they're not going to do that.
They're up to modern medicine. But look, you look at
the Nuggets. They've been playing and connecting on all cylinders.
Jokij averaging a triple double, Jamal Murray showing that his
time in the Bubble wasn't just contained in the bubble,
Michael Porter Junior's being a lethal third option, and they
just have a lot of depth across the board. Aaron Gordon,

(07:41):
I'm missing other guys off the top of my head here,
Bo Contavious Calwell, Pope, and Bruce Brown. So they're a
complete team. And I think the other thing I have
to keep in mind is even prior to this, they
were a team that didn't have any players miss any
playoff games due to injuries, so they're already at a
rest and health advantage. So yeah, I don't know, four
game sweep, but let's say five games.

Speaker 5 (08:04):
I had to put that health thing in as you're
a dendum their mark, so if things suddenly go awry
in that department, it's all on you. How this whole
karma and basketball gods things work?

Speaker 4 (08:16):
How is my fault all of a sudden, Well, yeah.

Speaker 5 (08:18):
You were talking about extolling all the virgin and he said, hey,
and they've been healthy. Yes, we've talked about which now
as we see, turns on a dime here, And I
think that's been one of the fun parts of this
mark is watching the Denver media bend over backwards to
try to tell you about all the great storylines that
are and a number of national pundits just say, nah,

(08:38):
they're boring.

Speaker 4 (08:39):
Yeah, I mean, look what's up with the Fox twitter
outrace today? Over that. I mean, look like Chris Mannix
was making the specific point that the Denver Nuggets are
a respected team. There's a lot of interesting things about them.
But when you look at just all the soap opera
turbulence and big picture ramifications of what's happened with the
Lakers this year, the Warriors and the Clippers and the like,

(09:01):
what are we getting all up in arms about? And
look like, I'm someone who's covered the league from a
national lens with different places, and you know, it's never
been about just like chasing clicks. It's about covering the
league as you should and finding interesting stories. And the
numbers are the numbers. When I would do Jokic stories
or Jamal Murray's stories, or any Nugget stories, they just

(09:22):
didn't hit the same way that you would It would
hit when you wrote about the Lakers or the Warriors
or just a league wide issue that's going on. I mean,
I think the best reference point here is when the
Nuggets eliminated the Lakers Game four, you know, and Lebron
is giving these Da Vinci codes messages about it. I
have to think about it, and then it comes out, Oh,

(09:43):
I might retire. I made some calls and people around
him were saying, no, I think he's gonna wind up,
you know, coming back, and he just needs some time.
I wrote a late Braun James story. May retire, but
probably not, according to people who know him. The story right,
I did a story on Nick and his dominant playoff
run and how Nugget GM Calvin Booth said, Hey, this

(10:05):
is the best uh we've ever seen from Jokic this season,
even compared to his MVP seasons. Guess which story did
a lot better from a network step?

Speaker 3 (10:14):
Sure?

Speaker 4 (10:15):
Right, Like what are we doing here?

Speaker 3 (10:18):
I mean like that?

Speaker 1 (10:19):
And that's the thing, Mark, is that people don't understand
that certain stars and certain teams just capture our attention.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
But we don't make the rules. You know, we don't
make the rules.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
But when the Yankees do something, or the Cowboys do something,
or the Lakers do something, or Jalen Brunson does something,
I mean, look, people really a lot more than they
care about. Look, I would like if more people really
cared and loved Nikola Yuky.

Speaker 3 (10:44):
We talked more about him.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
But he's not Lebron Lebron James. You can't even imagine
what the what the what the the the sports landscape
is gonna be when he finally retires and we don't
have Lebron James to talk about, Like forget what the
content he's provided for like the last twenty years with
all of this.

Speaker 4 (11:01):
Yeah, and look like there's a clear difference between you know,
chasing the clicks and you know some of the debate
shows debating kind of trivial things about Lebron, But when
it comes to a pertinent story involving any you know,
major NBA star or market, like, it's just going to
register a lot more than a team in a small market.
That's not to say we shouldn't pay attention to them.

(11:22):
We should, they should get the respect. But look, I
think that larger narrative that you know, Nuggets fans are
getting all upset about, as well as Michael Malone, the
Nuggets head coach, that's really catered to the debate shows
specifically with one network that's not the one that we're on. Right, So, like,
when you look at the content from NBA writers, they've

(11:43):
given their props to Jokich and Jamal and the team.
So I don't know what all the fox outrages for.
I mean, that's what Twitter is about, but it just
it was obnoxious to say the least.

Speaker 6 (11:55):
I'll tell you what.

Speaker 5 (11:56):
I went out of my way to remind folks that
in all of that and that great vague smithsdirection that
the Lakers did in fact get swept, how much you
wanted to chop it up and spin it any which way?
Mark Game six, does this series continue well?

Speaker 4 (12:13):
Look, clearly Boston has shown that they can do this
and make history. I think that Miami they'll win in
Game six. Historically, you know, there's only been three teams
that have ever forced a Game seven. They lost. You know,
zero out of one hundred and fifty have ever been
able to overcome an O three deficit. But look, this
is a unique circumstance where the Celtics, they're a number

(12:34):
one seed for a reason, they just underachieved and played
down and inconsistent. So you know, if they do pull
this off, it's not going to be like the Miracle
on Ice or you know, the Little Engine that Could
kind of story of an underdog tail. It's more of, hey,
you played up to your potential and did what the bed.
But it is something to be said about the fact

(12:54):
that overcoming these kind of obstacles is hard because no
team in NBA has has ever done it. But Miami Heat,
they're not a typical weight seed. I think they'll put
away on Saturday in Miami. But look, we'll have to
tune in. That should be fun.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
You can follow on Twitter at mark g Underscore Medina.
That's at mark g Underscore Medina, who will never be
writing another Denver Nuggets column the rest of his life.

Speaker 4 (13:20):
I guarantee you I wrote a Nuggets story today. I
got like a few more in the pipe next week.
And it's inevitable. I think one of those teams that
are going to play in the finals, right, it's all
right about them. And look, if Lebron decides to announce
after Game one he's retiring, I will write that story too,
but I'll also write about the Nuggets.

Speaker 5 (13:38):
Well, he'll make it up in volume with a lot
of stories about the Nuggets.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
Make the headline being Lebron retires as Nuggets win NBA Finals.

Speaker 6 (13:47):
That will help.

Speaker 4 (13:51):
That will help with the metrics to say, hey, actually
these Nugget stories do get traction.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
Or just just mention Lebron James in the title and
and and tag it with that, and he's not even
in the story at all.

Speaker 3 (14:04):
And people will read about.

Speaker 5 (14:05):
The Nuggets Lebron James to get to these NBA Finals
hashtag the hell out of it.

Speaker 4 (14:12):
I need you, as Lebron, I need you as our
analytics guru to us.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
Up well, hey whatever you need to, we get up
Hey much more Jalen Brunson to put it more, Jalen Brunson.

Speaker 3 (14:23):
Stop that. Hey, buddy, thanks a bunch of man. Enjoy
the weekend. We'll talk to you next week.

Speaker 4 (14:27):
I appreciate you. Mark.

Speaker 3 (14:30):
That goes, Mark.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
You know, that's a great conversation to get into in
the next minutes because the number of people who are upset,
whether it's the Nuggets or Mike Malone and or the
pundits that that you heard Mark Medina talking about, Oh
what the Nuggets getting the book coverage? Oh my goodness,
what what? What were you guys born yesterday? I mean, seriously,
it's it's it's ridiculous.

Speaker 6 (14:52):
You've been in the business a very long time.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
Yeah, I will will get into this and tell you
exactly why you can't just say say, hey, you should
care about something, because you can't do it.

Speaker 3 (15:04):
You can't do it.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
We don't make the rules, but you can't just say
you need to care because and we'll explain it, lay
it out for It's been a big thing the last days.
I'm stick of the Laker coverage, stick of Lebron coverage.
I'm sorry, it's Lakers and Lebron. We got that coming
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Speaker 6 (16:47):
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Speaker 1 (17:00):
About reinventing yourself. Hey, that's a little bit different. I
didn't expect that to happen. By a great visit with
Mark Medina a few minutes ago, and we got into
the topic of.

Speaker 3 (17:12):
How NBA coverage is too Lakers centric.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
You've seen a lot of people mentioned, you know, Chris
Mannix was talking about it, and you know, Charles Barkley
has brought it up. Oh, it's too much Lakers, too
much Lakers, too much Lebron. Why not more Denver Nuggets?
Even Michael Malone was upset when the Nuggets were up
one nothing. It was why I didn't like the narrative
that it was about the Lakers have figured stuff out.
I don't like the narrative, dude, what do you care
about the narrative your team is gonna win and go

(17:37):
to the finals. No, No, I care that people aren't
talking about the Denver Nuggets. And this has been a
big topic the last few days. And I see this
and I just go, you just gotta be kidding me. Man,
Anybody who complains about this I lose respect for because
they all know better.

Speaker 3 (17:52):
Everybody knows better.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
Right, You're just looking for a topic hold on to
because you've run out of topics in the NBA playoffs. Wow,
I can't say Joe Missula is a great coach because
I just said he should be fired yesterday.

Speaker 3 (18:03):
What do I do after the Celtics win.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
Look, if the Denver Nuggets and Nicola Jokic were bigger
and people like to hear about, the more we talk
about the more. It's that simple. We don't make the
rules in this business, right, Sports talk radio TV. We
are in a read and react business. Now, there's certain
times where we come up with topics that are our

(18:27):
own topics called home cook Right, that's the bit Thay,
Hey we got a home cook topic coming up? Hey
what if we did this topic today? But most of
the time we're read and react. Hey, we're previewing games,
read and react. We're predicting the future. We're trying to
see where things go. That's kind of what we are.
We don't decide who's big and who's not right. I mean,
I wish I could decide who was big, what was big,
and what was not because a lot of things that

(18:47):
were big I would not want to talk about. I
didn't want to talk about the Caitlin Clark Angel Reached
controversy because it.

Speaker 3 (18:53):
Was just stupid.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
It was the stupidest controversy that as days went on,
it just got stupider and stupider. But you know what,
it was a big deal and people wanted to hear
about it, so you know what we talked about it.

Speaker 3 (19:04):
We don't control that. We don't control it. We control, hey,
what's going on, and.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
We give you our opinion on it and tell you
and tell you different ways to think about it, what
something you should think. Maybe you get upset with what
we say, maybe you love what we say. Maybe we
make you laugh along the way. I hope we make
you laugh.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
Along the way. I think we do a pretty good
job of that.

Speaker 1 (19:21):
But overall, we don't make those rules. We don't control
what you love. Right, If people love the Nuggets more,
we talk about the Nuggets more.

Speaker 6 (19:29):
Right.

Speaker 3 (19:29):
It's that simple.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
I can't say something, well, now we're got to talk
about Nicola jokicic when Lebron James is the topic. The
Lakers are a bigger team than the Nuggets. Could win
three titles in a row, the Lakers will still be bigger.
Doesn't matter. Nikola Jokic could win four straight MVPs. Lebron
James will be bigger because Lebron James is bigger because
he has been He is more popular.

Speaker 3 (19:51):
You heard Mark.

Speaker 1 (19:52):
Medina's a story last a few minutes ago where he
said he wrote a story about Lebron James potentially retiring
and Nicola Jokic going to the NBA Finals, and the
one that more people looked at and clicked on and
commented on and we're involved in was Lebron one.

Speaker 3 (20:09):
Because that's how it goes.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
Because there's certain people that are just more popular, certain
teams that are more popular. Do we need to talk
about the Dallas Cowboys every single week?

Speaker 6 (20:17):
No?

Speaker 1 (20:17):
But you know what, nationally, people love the Dallas Cowboys.
They love hearing about him. When they love hearing about him, lose,
the same thing with the Yankees, but they love hearing
about him lose, and they love hearing about him lose.
They love to hear about the Yankees lose.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
And lose and lose and lose and lose. That's just
how it goes now.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
And I'm going to give you an example here, Mike,
to tell you how ridiculous it sounds to say, well,
we should be talking about other teams more right, jj
Reddick did that the last couple of days. He's been
standing up on the soapbox of Oh, you know these
other teams, they deserve more attention. Okay, well let me
just throw this out here. You well, that's fine in theory, yeah,
in there, but it's what It doesn't work in reality

(20:51):
because I want people to continue to listen to the show.
And if I'm spending three three segments of an hour
you and I talking about Nicola Jokic, really he could
do a little bit in the Koli Jokic because yeah,
he's interesting, but really, three segments in the Kohli Jokic,
people would go, yeah, sorry, I don't want that. Oh,
three segments of Lebron Yeah, I can't stand him. Where
I love Lebrono. He's getting so much he needs to

(21:11):
be traded, they need to be well.

Speaker 6 (21:14):
Stuff so much.

Speaker 5 (21:15):
That to punctuate you know that when you mention those teams,
those players, is there's no hate watching him. Nikola jokicch
right now, right with lebron James.

Speaker 6 (21:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (21:27):
People are interested long history success, all the accolades, all
the great debates, the inane debates, and where he ranks
here or there everywhere, what he's doing, what are his motivation,
what does he mean by this? All of that, and
then there's hate watching for the same reasons. And they
all come together at the table to the trock to

(21:47):
eat and that's what we do and look and everybody
wants to be able to stay in business and keep
the lights on.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
So, yeah, when you talk about something that's more popular,
more people are going to.

Speaker 3 (21:59):
To talk about.

Speaker 6 (22:00):
Let's talk about some royals and A's base.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
When we talk about TV shows that are on and
we talk about Squid Game and Stranger Things in ted Lasso, Yeah,
that's because these are incredibly popular shows. I could give
you some show that hey, people are streaming, that they're
just watching now that has you know, five ratings on
Rotten tomatoes because people are gonna I don't know what
that is.

Speaker 3 (22:19):
I'm gonna I'm an turn. I don't know what they're talking.

Speaker 5 (22:21):
I mean, I could try to give you a cell
for two minutes on some of the stuff I watch
when I'm up in the middle of the night. But
I'm also a realist that if you weren't interested, you aren't.
You aren't gonna suddenly say, you know what, I'll give
that a shot. You're too busy, dude, I know you
You watch the air supply guys just selling all the big.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
Love songs in the seventies.

Speaker 3 (22:40):
You watch that infomercial on a loop. I know, I know.

Speaker 5 (22:43):
I got a couple of others off Apple TV and
some other stuff that I just don't.

Speaker 3 (22:47):
Think anybody else is gonna watch.

Speaker 5 (22:48):
But it's it's like when they used to try to
sell us the show What was it when we were
watching the end of Breaking Bad?

Speaker 3 (22:55):
What the hell was that low, low, low Winter Sun?

Speaker 6 (22:58):
Yeah, sure tried to sell the hell out of that.
Should any of you out there ever watch it? If so,
you tell me what it was about.

Speaker 5 (23:05):
As swollen dome, because I bet you you can encapsulate
it in less than two hundred and eighty characters.

Speaker 1 (23:10):
Same thing with snow Piercer. After every NBA if snow Piercer,
snow Piercer is coming, snow Pierzer is done off the air.

Speaker 3 (23:15):
I mean you can't.

Speaker 6 (23:16):
It got five seasons though, or something didn't it?

Speaker 2 (23:19):
Well?

Speaker 1 (23:19):
I think, well that was the only show they had.
They had the NBA Playoffs and snow Piercer.

Speaker 3 (23:23):
That was it. And they had the Star Wars trilogy. Hey,
there we go. That's oh, we're gonna show you on DND.

Speaker 1 (23:28):
But look, but let me give you an example, and
I'll tell you exactly exactly how and why force feeding
something that the general public doesn't want is bad for business,
no matter what it is. Let's say you decide to
go to a festival. Right, Let's say you go to
a photevert, music festival, renaissance, festival, whatever it is, right,

(23:48):
music festival, renaissance, but whatever it is, you go to.
And it's a festival you go to every year. Right,
that's the NBA. And when you go to a festival,
what do you want? You want to get food? Right,
And they have a big food court, right, they have
a big food court in the festival every year, and
every year, this one place has the best food. Right,
they always have the food that's interesting, they bring something,

(24:09):
it's it's the food that everybody loves, right, So there's
always a big line there.

Speaker 8 (24:14):
Now.

Speaker 3 (24:14):
Meanwhile, these other.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
Food entities that are around the circle in the courtyard
at the festival, they all put out pretty good food.
Sometimes the food might be better than that one place.
But everybody seems to love that one place. And no
matter how many times you get people with sandwich port says,
come here, try this turkey leg.

Speaker 3 (24:32):
It's the biggest turkey leg.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
Ever, not enough people go over to make it a
big thing, and the line is always a little bit shorter.

Speaker 3 (24:39):
But still this one place.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
Maybe it's because they have the it's the street corn
that's so good that they put with a low teon.
Oh it's so tasty. It doesn't matter, but every year
people go to this place. This is the one food
line that everybody goes to the most. The other place
they all have good food, right, they all have good food.
The place the Denver food is really good, and the

(25:02):
Golden State food is really good, and the and the
New York food is really but the but the Los
Angeles Laker food boy, it's so good. Everybody gets there.
So then the festival decides, Hey, you know what, Hey,
there's some people who are really upset. You know, a
couple people go, you know, I'm upset that these these
people work really hard and they don't get the lines
there for their food. So you know, we should do

(25:23):
let's close down the popular place that sells the food. Wait,
why well, because we should give the other the other
places a chance, because you know everybody, everybody would want
a chance to try their food. Well, I don't know
we should do that. I think we should have people
buying this food. No, no, no, no, let's let's let's
do it. Let's close down that one food place that's
so great, and then let's let's open up and help

(25:43):
everybody go to the other ones. Okay, so you do that,
and what happens. People show up and they go, hey,
where's that place?

Speaker 3 (25:50):
I really like? What happened to it?

Speaker 1 (25:51):
It's gone? I try other food. Ah, well, I'm a
little upset already. Now I'm upset because my favorite place
is gone. So now I go into trying other food
already not being happy with the choice I have to make.
So I go on, I try the food and maybe
it's okay, maybe it's really good, but you know what,
I really miss that place. I really miss going there.

(26:13):
And what happens. None of those places make that money
back because some people will go get food at the
other places, but some people are gonna go, oh, my
favorite place isn't there. Yeah, I'm not gonna buy there anymore.
And what happens Then you're talking about a renaissance of
any kind of festival where the food court is doing
less and less business, and people start bringing their own
food in, or they stop going because they know that

(26:34):
food is gonna be at a different festival they go to.
It doesn't work. You can't just force feed and tell
somebody you need to like something. People like what they like.
If you pull that place from that festival, business isn't
gonna suddenly go crazy. People aren't gonna say well, I
can't get this, so I'm gonna get in line for
that big turkey leg I love that big turculate. No,
they're not gonna do that. That's not how business works.

(26:56):
That's not how how people spend their attention. They don't
just say well, well, if you're not gonna give me this,
I'm gonna fill that vacuum with the other the next
best that know, that's not how people do it.

Speaker 3 (27:06):
Right.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
If I can't find a good TV show to watch
on TV, am I gonna watch something that I really
don't want to watch? Or am I gonna do something else?
I'm gonna do something else. I'm gonna get on my iPad.
I'm gonna get on my phone, I'm gonna make a
phone call, I'm gonna play a game. I'm gonna do
something else. I'm not gonna say, well, I can't find
this TV show. My TV show I like is no good.
I'm gonna watch Some people don't do that. People just
don't do that. So to sit here and say, oh,

(27:27):
we talk too much about the Lakers, yeah, you be
those shows. You be those shows that instead of talking
about Lebron, you talk about the Nuggets the entire time.
And again I'm not saying talking about the Nuggets is
bad and there's not interest level. But you can't sit
here and tell me that you have a show talking
about Lebron and the Lakers and what's gonna be next
for them, and you have a show talking about the Nuggets.
What are people gonna listen to right, what are people

(27:48):
They're gonna listen to the Lakers. They'rena listen to about
Lebron and the Lakers. People in Denver will listen to Denver.
People in la will listen to Lakers. It's their local thing.
But you talk about naturally what people want, They're all
going to go to the Lakers. They all want to
go to that one place in the in the festival
where they can get the best food. That's the food
they've decided they like, that's what they want, That's what
they're gonna go eat.

Speaker 5 (28:08):
Just remember, the milkshake has to bring all the boys
to the yard.

Speaker 6 (28:13):
What you get after that is up to you.

Speaker 5 (28:16):
Right after that, everybody eats, but the milkshake has to
be there to bring you to the yard. In this example,
Lebron James, is your milkshake.

Speaker 6 (28:28):
Drink it up.

Speaker 3 (28:32):
I mean, it's really, it's that simple. I don't know,
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (28:35):
Didn't think i'd be able to encapsulate that.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
That was pretty good, man, that was pretty Now I
want a milkshake now, now I wish we were working together.

Speaker 3 (28:41):
Tonight we had a fat salis.

Speaker 5 (28:42):
Well tomorrow we'll we'll, we'll order it Okay, we're both
in tomorrow. Tomorrow, we'll make fat salas tomorrow. So everybody plays,
everybody wins. I'll tell you, whoever's in with us, you've.

Speaker 6 (28:53):
Won the lottery. There.

Speaker 1 (28:54):
No, no, maybe we should go the the the NBA
way of it. No, no, no, we love that milkshake. Let's
get it because too many people know. Let's order another milkshake. Milkshakeke,
I'm not gonna get the lesser milkshake.

Speaker 6 (29:06):
I lesser milkshake.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
No.

Speaker 5 (29:10):
But but the point is app It's like, it doesn't
mean you don't sprinkle in. Hey, there's a good story
about this, right. We did the Raiders, and we did
part of the Raiders. There's part two of it, right,
The whole Jimmy Garoppolo thing is part two. But the
DeVante Adams thing is just fascinating. One big star fantasy
football hero, longtime top flight wide receiver making some noise

(29:35):
as you go and you get into the post Derek
Carr era. The Raiders move the needle, they suck, and
people love to laugh at and mock the Raider brand.
We've got a million drops that Chris Burfett could just
hammer out at any moment. Mocking the Raiders or maybe
talking about the greatness of the Raiders. Either way, the
point is they're a legacy brand, going back fifty sixty

(29:59):
years at the day points, so they're relevant in the
NFL in general, we can talk about just about any
team and they're relevant.

Speaker 6 (30:07):
But when we start moving into.

Speaker 5 (30:09):
Other sports, you definitely have the situation whereby, you know,
like animal farms, some some are more equal than others,
and that's what we have here.

Speaker 1 (30:20):
Twitter at how about a Fresco Mike gets swollen dome
joining us now to tell us what's trending in the
wide world of sports. Special delivery Steve to Seger, who
will waste fusty time and begin with the biggest result
of the night, the Mets scoring ten runs beating the
Cubs ten to one.

Speaker 6 (30:35):
Steve, you just did that. One move on, Steve, thank
you very much.

Speaker 8 (30:39):
We're going to just discuss milkshakes for like, reaches across
the room and starts to drink your milkshakes.

Speaker 3 (30:47):
Drainage, Eli drainage.

Speaker 6 (30:49):
Hey man, we just saw him in public for the
first time in forever.

Speaker 8 (30:53):
Oh, that's true, he's what retired from acting. Daniel day Lewis.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
Yeah, wait, no, no, no, no, he's in no way. Wait,
what's he coming out a retirement to do to play?
Uh uh, he's gonna play Barry Berkman right in Barry right, yes.

Speaker 8 (31:08):
Yes, so he's like a boxer. He's kind of retired.
He was retired, he's not retired.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
No, he's gonna play gen Kuzenoh that's right, he was
gonna play gen Cusa.

Speaker 6 (31:17):
There you go. And then the whole murder thing.

Speaker 8 (31:19):
Just boy, good you mentioned the Lakers and that this
is a story that was only a four game series,
the Western Conference Final Lakers and Nuggets. It averaged seven
point nine million viewers, which is more than a Lakers
Golden State series got the round before. It's seven point
eight million, and that was the most watched second round

(31:40):
in about twenty five years. If you have a list
of this postseason the thirteen most watched playoff games, Lakers
have ten of the thirteen, just.

Speaker 6 (31:51):
And all better than young Sheldon too.

Speaker 8 (31:55):
By the way, uh, I don't know what the ratings
are tonight, of course, but last night there was no
NBA too. Looking at the ratings, NHL had one point
eight million viewers, which was lower than the Vander Pumper rules.
Just for the record, Wow, top rated TV show was
the Jeopardy Masters Finelle.

Speaker 3 (32:12):
Does it really rule? If people aren't watching it? Can
you really say it's still rules?

Speaker 8 (32:15):
Well, more people are watching that than the hockey.

Speaker 6 (32:18):
Okay, it ruled those one point eight?

Speaker 8 (32:20):
Sure, exactly. We will have hockey Saturday Night and NBA
Saturday Night. Boston stayed alive, Dallas Stars stayed alive. We'll
start with the Celtics two seed. Boston at home led
twenty to five early and beat Miami one ten to
ninety seven. So in the East Finals, the Heat lead
the series three games to two. Now Celtics with thirteen steals.

(32:42):
This evening five by Marcus Smart, who had twenty three points.
Game six will be Saturday night in Miami. The NBA
Finals won't start until June first. Next Thursday, Stanley Cup
West Final. That series will still go because Vegas's lead
is three games to one. Now at Dallas, the Stars
beat one se Vegas in overtime, three to two. The
Stars had been zero to four in ot this postseason.

(33:05):
Game five will be in Vegas on Saturday nights, and
then we'll find out exactly when the Stanley Cup Final
will begin it could begin as soon as Wednesday, May thirty, first,
even before the NBA Finals. By the way, Mike Tyson
and Rick Flair were both in the building in Dallas tonight,
sporting eight Stars jerseys and Dallas avoids being swept in

(33:28):
the postseason for the first time in over twenty years
and this was over twenty playoffs series now since then
for that franchise. The MLB late game, well, it's over
and the A's have lost again.

Speaker 3 (33:40):
Ah, they were winning though were.

Speaker 8 (33:43):
They gave up a bases loaded walk bottom of the
eighth Seattle and the Runners beat Oakland three to two.
So the A's have lost eighth straight. They're ten and
forty two on the season. Baltimore beat the Yankees three
to one in New York, Yanks just three hits. Atlanta
got three runs bottom of the eighth to beat Philadelphia
eight five. The Mets win was ten to one at Chicago,

(34:04):
beating the Cubs. Pete Alonzo with his nineteenth homer. San
Francisco shut out Milwaukee five nothing. Michael Conforto went four
for four, including a solo homer. Milwaukee as a team
was four for thirty with thirteen strikeouts. Wins for San
Diego on, a ninth inning homer win for Tampa Bay
and a comeback Razer hosting the Dodgers this weekend.

Speaker 3 (34:24):
Back to you, thanks a bunch, Steve O.

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(34:47):
Game six. We're gonna celebrate this game the best way
we know how.

Speaker 6 (34:52):
Yes, but it's not that way.

Speaker 3 (34:59):
Curveball coment right here. Fox.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
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Speaker 1 (35:11):
Jason Smith Show with My best friend Mike Harmon. Now,
this is a conversation that could wind up going on
a little bit here. We need to celebrate the fact
that Celtics have kept this series going. Thank you for
more basketball. Yes, it's three to two. Now he thought
this could have been over early.

Speaker 5 (35:30):
Did you know the greatest trick Jimmy Butler ever made
and had was to give Celtics fans hope.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
Okay, you kind of butchered that a little bit, but
I like you stuck the landing at the end.

Speaker 5 (35:42):
Okay, I like the devil all right? Sure that he
didn't exist. Now, Jimmy Butler, there's a little bit of hope.

Speaker 3 (35:49):
And you have Nickelback versus The Town. That's right.

Speaker 1 (35:53):
The heat have been powered by the musical stylings of
Jimmy Butler and Nickelback is one of those groups they
play a lot of and hate.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
Listen to the lyrics and Nickelback will give you some big,
deep meanings to their songs.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
You're right, and you have The Town, which is the
movie that Celtics had coach Joe Mizzula watches at least
four times a week so to celebrate the Celtics keeping
this series going. And because I'd much rather talk about
The Town than I talk about Nickelback, how about the
top five movies all.

Speaker 3 (36:22):
Time that take place in Boston.

Speaker 6 (36:25):
Okay, you're right.

Speaker 3 (36:26):
Now there's a hot take list here. Now this is
a hot take list.

Speaker 6 (36:29):
Hey, Liz Radio, this works.

Speaker 5 (36:31):
Now there's a hot how about a presco at Swollen Home.

Speaker 6 (36:33):
You've got your thoughts on this too.

Speaker 1 (36:35):
Hot take list Number one, No, no, no, we don't go
number two.

Speaker 3 (36:39):
No, it's number five.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
First number, No, number six, just random points. I know
number one. No, we don't start with number one. We
start a number five, number five, number five, number five.
Goodwill Hunting. It was the first movie that really gave

(37:00):
us the look at contemporary Boston, right because it was
you know, it's Affleck and Damon they make it, and
we really got to look at the different sides of Boston.

Speaker 3 (37:09):
You saw the academic side of Boston. You saw it.
You saw the the other sides of the tougher sides
of the town.

Speaker 6 (37:15):
You got a little bit of Boston and air.

Speaker 3 (37:17):
You saw Boston and air a little bit.

Speaker 6 (37:19):
Sure, yeah, vocal the way you saw it.

Speaker 1 (37:21):
So I so Goodwill Hunting because that was the first
of the modern movies of Boston.

Speaker 3 (37:26):
Even though it was a great movie. It was the
first one. But I have it at number five.

Speaker 6 (37:29):
All right, I'm gonna let you run through your five
and then I'll I'll meet your retort.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
Number four.

Speaker 3 (37:34):
Sorry, sorry do it. Sorry, go ahead, let's do.

Speaker 1 (37:37):
The next one is number four, Spotlight, Doug Spotlight, great movie,
everything about I mean, just the cast.

Speaker 5 (37:48):
For those that didn't story, you gotta give a quick
synopsis in what Spotlight is because I think that I
think you know, it did fairly well and had a
huge cast. Yeah, got a lot of awards or whatever
one best picture, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 6 (38:01):
But but but Jason, do people see that the best picture? Always? No,
But they see cartoon movies.

Speaker 1 (38:07):
Because they went to see it because Michael Keaton was
in it and people thought he was Batman, so they
went to go see that movie people.

Speaker 6 (38:13):
Number three, if only that was true.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
A uh, and investigative reporters in Boston uncover a lot
of bad things going on with much of the religious
aspects of the church.

Speaker 6 (38:26):
So there are Spotlight.

Speaker 3 (38:27):
So that's number four. Okay, Number three, Miss Mystic River.

Speaker 5 (38:33):
You got two daughter there, you daughter there, Sean penn
yell that ninety seven times.

Speaker 1 (38:40):
You got two Academy Awards out of that. The book
was phenomenal. The movie was unbelievable, one of the best
mysteries that I've ever seen.

Speaker 3 (38:51):
It was so good. Number two.

Speaker 1 (38:53):
Number two. Number two is the Town. The Town was
that good. It was tense, it was dramatic, The performances
in it were awesome, notch Ham, everybody. It was a
fantastic movie. So underrated. Second best movie to ever take
place in Boston. Okay, number five, No number two, number one,

(39:15):
number one, and this cannot really be disputed unless you
want to say, well, but some of it took place
in a different place. Social Network, Oh boy, tough. Can't
argue with such. One of the best movies, probably the
best movie, oh my goodness, the last twelve years. Yeah,
I mean Social Network number one.

Speaker 5 (39:35):
Yeah, you can keep it, uh, mister Griver five four,
Goodwill Hunting three, The Departed at number two, the.

Speaker 6 (39:45):
Best Boston movie of them all. Death to Me, Ted,
you're insane with that.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
You're insane at the party. Number two, you are insane.
We'll get to Ted. You're insane with Department. First of all,
anything with Mark Wahlberg should be knocked out of this list. Okay, nothing,
I got him in there twice. No, he's done done.
I don't know if he owes you money or not.

Speaker 3 (40:07):
Whatever.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
No, No, we gotta have more on this coming up next. Uh,
because you're just insane. That list is insane at the top.
It's coming up next right here, Jason and Mike. This
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