May 30, 2023 • 36 mins
Jason Smith and Mike Harmon explain why it’ll be the summer of change for the Boston Celtics. They’ll bring in a shooter who can hit 3's and Austin Reaves could be that guy. Plus, the Progressive play of the night!
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and the Celtics Season one two eighty three is your final.
We'll have more on this game coming up throughout the
final hour of the show tonight. But if you were
watching the coverage on TNT, and most everybody was, and
and you got to see at the end of their coverage,
that's TNT's final game fishing. They brought out their longtime
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producer Tim Kylee twenty seven years, he's been producing Inside
the NBA NBA games and I haven't worked with the
guy in almost thirty years. And for me to say
this tells you about the impact that Tim Kylee had
on my life and a lot of people business now, No, no, no,
Tim Kylee was the best. He was a Sports center
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producer when I started as a as a PA at ESPN,
so he was a guy that was yelling at you,
and that's a thing. He doesn't yell you are you
hear you? Hear the phrase players coach all the time.
He's a players coach, players coach. He was a player's producer.
And I guarantee you, without ever having been in on
a rundown meeting with Inside the NBA, I know exactly
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why that show is so great because Tim Kyley is
that kind of producer. He's one of those guys that's
not gonna come in and say okay here because he's
the guy from the beginning that started Inside the NBA.
Brought in Ernie Johnson, and then it was Kenny Smith,
and a couple of years later was Barkley and then
Check and it's been the best studio show on TV
for twenty some odd years, and it's gonna continue to
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be great because the guy's personality has been doing it
long enough. But this show's been the best show on TV.
And you don't give the producer enough credit because the
overall feel of a show, how talent can can tell
you what they think, and the chemistry they provide awful
under the category of a producer making sure you are
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at the best peak you are to succeed. Just be
careful because we've been doing this about a decade now,
and my guy's getting a little chesty over there. I
actually saw the mask dip for a second and he
had a big grin on his face as I'm clipping
this off from my next meeting with the bosses. Like
you know, when people have the image of a produce
on TV, it's someone walking around just screaming all the time.
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What he was. He was someone who was full of
positivity and always knew what to say. And as long
as you did, you know you did well. He reinforced
what you did and if you didn't do something well,
he found the right way to bring it to you.
To me, Hey, you know what, here's what I thought
you did really really good. And here's what I think
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you can work on a little bit. And you know,
seeing the guys talk about him, and Shaq and Kenny
and Charles Barkley, they all said what I knew about
him thirty years ago. That's the guy he is. He
lets people be themselves. And I can't tell you what
that means for the success of television shows and radio shows. Right,
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I'll give you an example. When I first started at
ESPN doing ESPN Radio back in two thousand and five, right,
I was here at Fox in the very beginning, and
the people in charge of Fox were very hands on
everything you wanted to do and wanted to say. And
that's tough because you want to have the sense of
a talent that I can do whatever I want to
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as long as I don't get too crazy, and the producer,
whoever it is, will rain me in if I need to.
When I went to ESPN, we had a boss like that,
and that was the heyday of ESPN Radio, right two
thousand and five. When I was doing All Night, that
was the Hayter, Right, that was Mike and Mike, and
it was Colin, and then it was Dan, and then
it was either Eric cassili is doing the Sports Bash.
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Then it was Game Night with Gottlieb and Freddie Coleman
and all those guys. That was the heyday of ESPN Radio, right,
That was it. That's where everybody was challenging each other
to do better, and you listen to other shows. It
was awesome. Well, and then everybody came to work with us. Exactly, Well,
that's the thing. So as time went on, the bosses
at ESPN changed and new bosses came in, and new
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things were being thrown out there, and there was much
less freedom. There was much less freedom to be fun.
There was much it was I told you the big
saying year was have fun, but not too much fun.
It's like, what does that even mean? Don't have too
much of what separation at Church and State when you've
got Disney the top. Yeah, but you didn't need to
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because he because it was running pretty well. Then what happened?
Then people started leaving right, I left, Gottlieb left, Not
not to say, but just who's on the air now
here at Fox Jason Gottlieb left, Colin left, Dan left right.
All four of us are all here. All four of
us are all here. And what have we seen the
last few years. Fox Sports Radio's national programming smokes ESPN's
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smokes them because you know why, because we have bosses
out here and Don Martin and Scott Shapiro that let
us do our thing and the conversation And I can't
tell you the last time I had a conversation with
Donn or Scott that wasn't that that that involves something
we actually did on the show that it was, Hey,
maybe you should have done that. No, there's none of
those conversations. May we get random texts about Nick's jets, No,
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we never get that. Dult life doesn't happen. But I
never get a text on it. I never get a
text on you shouldn't have tweeted that? Why did you
tweet that? Did you say this? Did you not? The
freedom we have here at Fox to do our thing
is because we're allowed to buy them by Justin and
some of the other producers that are here. Right. We
we we we get we do our thing every single night.
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And to be able to do that is a really
difficult thing because when you're a producer, you know you
want to be able to I want to be in
control of all of it. But some of the best
producers are no the talent. The guys have to do
their thing, and I have to guide the ship and
and and move in and out and and and talk
when when I know they're listening and be able to
get my point across when I know it's time. And
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that's what they do. That's what Justin does, That's what
Scott does, That's what Don does because they're you know,
because they're big producers as well. Scott was. Scott produced
Mike and Mic for so many before he came out here.
And it's the same thing I see with Inside the NBA. Right.
You watch Inside the NBA, and then you compare it
to other shows like that are on ESPN and are
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on Fox, okay, And I watch Inside the NBA, and
I know these are guys that are having fun that
in the meetings, we want to talk about this. The
producer Tim Kylee says, yes, do this, do this great?
And if something happens, okay, hey, you know what, like
Charles Barkley said, you know, when you call me into
the principal's office. How many times is Charles Barkley really
in the principal's office. But I'm sure, it's a conversation.
Hey Charles, you maybe could have said it this way,
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might have been a little bit better. It was fine.
And but the looseness of that, the looseness of shows
that we have here at Fox and compared to some
of this at ESPN, where stuff happens and it's well,
did you say this, did you tweet this? You're in
trouble for this? Is that? I mean, that's the difference.
It's a huge difference being able to have that free
flowing creativity, is it? And guys like Tim Kyleie are
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at the crux Again, I haven't worked with the guy
in almost thirty years. I know exactly what he is.
He's the same guy I bet that I knew when
I worked with the MIT ESPN, and he's the same
guy that these guys have worked with for the past
twenty seven at TNT. Yeah, I mean, you can't pretend
to know, as a producer or higher up in the
corporate side of things, where everybody is and their sensibilities
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and what they know and their personalities to one hundred
degrees right and to the one hundred percent level of
what where you're gonna go with a story may have
the basis and it's gonna go, but you got to
be given the freedom to do that. One of the
things I thought was most telling in the clip you
and I were perusing at the end of the NBA
on TNT coverage as they're they're telling him all their
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love stories, was Kenny Smith basically saying, at the start
of it, I was really busy looking at trying to
find the camera and being distracted. You told me to
just worry about the content and that the camera was
gonna find me. And over time, yeah, that gets better ends,
a better flowing goes. But early on it was about
making a great product and then you guys made me
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look good, you know that kind of thing of and
that coaching from a producer is huge because at the
end of the day, to steal from our guy Don
Martin would be the content is everything right where you're
looking on camera? Yeah, a couple of trolls on social media.
I gotta say, your eyes are rolled up and you're
looking off to the side, or you're you know, sitting
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there posing like you're doing tonight. You know, like right now,
you're just doing everything. If I got that good looking
try so you got that going night. But and so
you'll get a couple of people on Twitter or guys
like Friendly who is taking an inordinate number of shots
of that because I was up quite a while. I
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look good in my cutoff sleeve shirt. I do. I
look good. But the point being that beyond that, it's
it's more the what's the substance that you brought? And
that's the one thing I've always appreciated here at Fox.
We're we're a weird group of people, I mean, from
all sorts of places in the country, different education backgrounds
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and family backgrounds or whatever else. And it works because
you have no idea what's coming on three hours after
after we finish. Ben is, you know, a unique guy
of his own, and then you go into to Jonas
with Levarn like everybody's coming at it from different different places,
and we're allowed the flexibility and the freedom to do that.
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And just that four minutes or whatever that was of television,
just paying tribute to him on his way out was
about all you needed. Yeah right, I mean it set
everything for a man's career, just like you let us
be us and produced one hell of a show by doing,
you know, brained us in as you needed to, but
ultimately worked with a bunch of guys who hadn't done
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this and made this the show that it is, and
it's a legendary show. It makes news all. I wish
they'd let him talk more because he's got a big
Pittsburgh accent. Does he like, oh yeah, oh hey guy, Yeah,
you guys are just the best. You know. He got
a lot of nodding in and thank you. Jason Smith knows.
He knows how we talk in Philadelphia and Pittsburgh. It's said, yo,
you know, yeah, that's how it goes. He used to
call me lunatic all the time. That was my nickname.
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He said, hey, you lunatic everything. Okay, you wonder how
that showed up? Hey you lunatic, I do it? I mean.
He also did the producer like thing of you know,
not really saying a lot like right, I'm gonna let
you got you guys talk now. I'm done. It's your
twenty seven years old, Jason, I'm finished. Yeah, justin you
give me their budget. I'll racing to the board any
damn time. But he's got no first step, don't you know,
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No no first He'll be falling down. No first, No
first step. But yeah, we have cameras embedded in this
block of tile. Why because Jason's gonna eat it with
some with some regularity trying to race it at the board.
And you know, and I told you that I got
in real trouble at ESPN the one time when we
did a ESPN the movie who would play certain people?
Oh yeah, ESPN was a movie and uh no, but
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the best one was Dan Patrick was joe Ahsuzu and
he loved that. In fact, he he incorporated on the
air a couple of times. He would say, but what
do I know, I'm just a guy that looks like
Joe Ahs Susan. Right, was really funny. Uh some people.
But I got a lot of trouble because some people
didn't like who they were. They were like, oh I
am I this person? But Tim Kyleie was Michael Keaton
and it was like, yeah, one hundred percent Michael Keaton,
Tim Kyleie, Michael Keaton, Michael Keaton, Pittsburgh, whole thing. It
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just worked. But you no, I was well because when
I had hair, I was I think I was Fred Savage.
That was who was gonna play me? Was Fred Savage? Okay,
do you have a reputation like Fred Savage. No, this
is before the bad he's before the bad reputation of Fred.
Oh even well, but even before that he had a
bad reputation for But I think it was it was
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you know, yeah, yeah, because I had the same kind
of hair as he did. And remember on Wonder Years
he wore the Jets jacket all he did have a
Jets Fred Savage, he had one of those that everybody
had their their team's version, right with those sleeves that
would start getting all dirty and you were spending a
half hour at a time trying to clean the sneep
on you. You sure it wasn't just puked on, You say, Jets,
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But no, no, no, it was no, it was it was.
It was not. It was just you had the camouflage version.
And now I go to no sleeves because there I
am with no sleeves, my Syracuse. I'm looking. It really
is kind of a next level look. When I walked
in and you were seated in the kitchen and we
sat and watched some of the game together, I was
really taken aback by the look. One of my big
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strengths is knowing how to cut a sweatshirt. If you
want to make it shorter sleeves or sleeves, exactly where
to do it? I think I can send me your
thing and I'll cut it for you, and I'll send
me your sweatshirt, and you know how much? How much
is an expensive scissor? Thirty bucks? And then I could
charge you what thirty But I will make this into
the best sweatshirt you could possibly have. Tell me where
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to cut it. Can you add on like a different
color sleeve. If I wanted to replace the sleeve that's manufacturing.
I'm strictly in a in in the downside talking about
category room for expansion. No, no, how do we repurpose?
Because I told you what my specialty is. That's my
go to somebody else who wants to add stuff to it.
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You're acting like your Fred Flintstone's tailor.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Fighty's not gonna loct up front. I don't know about
that front right Hi front, right Frontbby's not gonna lect
up front. Uh uh.
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The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmens. It's just something
to think about when you see shows like Inside the NBA,
when you watch shows like Undisputed, all this stuff here,
just trust me. It's behind is the talent needs to
be able to be themselves and that's why inside the
NBA has been so good for so long. Great run,
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His name is Mike Harmon. Coming up next, we got
some big Bowl predictions ahead for the Heat, the Celtics,
the Nuggets. Keep it right here, Jason and Mike. This
is Fox Sports Bowl Prediction Radio. And you know Magic,
how about you sent a couple of tweets out so
we can play the Magic Johnson Twitter game. Somebody took
it away from him. Send out to tweets then just
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like phone. I'm telling you, I think someone took Batman
in charger match to give me the phone. Give me
the phone. Well, he started tweeting out hate tweets about
the Celtics, and there's there's a bad look for you,
Doctor Banner, Doctor Banner, put down the scepter, Doctor Banner,
put your pet.
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Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with my best
friend Mike Harmon Hobo live from the Tiraq dot Com studios,
where we watched the Heat beat the Celtics one oh
three point eighty four. They go on to the NBA
Finals against the Nuggets. But this is going to be
a summer of change for the Boston Celtics. Oh and TJ.
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The winds of change blowing like a scorpion through Beantown. TJ,
look out it You're gonna get stuck. And TJ won
too few big city nights for the Celtics. Oh, now
we're talking. The Celtics allowed the Heat to be bad boys,
running wild and win this series. DJ uh So, he
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just blew people's mind. Look for the Celtics. We'll get
to Joe Mizzula in a second. Watching Jalen Brown, who
had forty eight turnovers tonight against the Heat, he's a
very maddening and frustrating player, said why he didn't have
that many? I mean, obviously it felt like it. It
felt like it. I mean just unforced ones where it's
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just I'm just dribbling and the ball is gonna go
off my leg. There were one or two good defensive
plays right, he lost track of a second guy trailing
and tap out whatever. But early in the game just atrocious.
And the guy is really talented, but he is also
very maddening, and he's someone who in this playoff run
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is a player that lost stock. He is a stock
down player. Not to the point the Celtics are going
to trade him. But the Celtics can no longer think well,
Tatum and Brown are our guys. No, they're not right.
You've clearly seen that they both need help in different ways.
Jason Tatum needs to be more consistent. He also needs
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to take on more of a leadership role. If you're
that best player, you have to do it. Jalen Brown
is too up and down. You can't count to them.
This doesn't mean they're getting rid of them, because it's
gonna be tough to say, Okay, we're gonna move this around. No,
they're both pretty good and Marcus Smart's a pretty good
you know it was a pretty good player too. But
they're gonna go out. Trust me. The thing they do
personnel wise this summer, they go out and get a
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big shooter, like if I am the if I'm the Laker,
Orford's not that guy. If I'm the Lakers, I'm kind
of nervous that they might come with twenty million dollars
a year for Austin Reeves like that, Like that's with sure,
they're gonna go spend a lot of money on a
shooter because what sent them home tonight they couldn't ait three.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Well.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
The hard part is when you look at Tatum and
Browns contracts, it's like six hundred million. Yeah, I mean,
it's not a lot you can do. And it's not
like you're gonna get a lot back for Jalen Brown
right now because he's stocked down. You're not gonna trade
him high out a hot high point and say, oh, oh, well,
Jalen Brown's gonna bring us X, Y and Z. No.
It's stocked down, and these guys are such great players,
And it's tough because while you want your best players
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to be taking all the shots, if you're not a
great three point shooter, sometimes it helps when you can
spread the floor and you can rely on somebody else
to hit those shots. But you need more offense because
so many times at the end of games for the
for the Celtics, it came down to well Tatum and
maybe Jalen Brown, what about other guys? No, because you
saw there wasn't a lot of flow to the Celtics offense.
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They kind of did the same thing every time down
the floor. It's kind of what they do. They rely
on town. They have a couple of really talented guys,
but it's not enough. But personnel wise, watch, they're gonna
go get a shoot. They're gonna they're gonna stick with
the guys they have. Every roster has some kind of
minor turnover, and they'll have some kind of minor turnover.
But you watch Celtics go out and get a shooter.
That's to be their number one thing, and they will
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spend a lot of money to go get a shooter
to come in to say, Okay, you're are you're our
are our third guy, you're our guy that we need
you to score twenty games. Marcus Smart, as good as
he is, that's not his game. He's a fill of
the box score, tough leader. I love Marcus Smart, but
you need somebody to give you more offense because nights
where a couple of guys aren't hitting threes and it's
not Tatum's game. Hit three after three after three, Okay,
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you need something else, they will go get personnel wise,
they will go get a shooter. I mean, you had
Brogden who shot forty four from three in the regular season,
played seven minutes, tried to gut it out today. Yeah,
he's a six and not an instant offense. And he's
not a Tyler hero off the bench is gone thirty
or six good player. No, he's a good guy hardware.
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But you need you need someone, hey, who can score
twenty twenty two off the bet or in the lineup,
a shooting guard or somewhere and score twenty. No, but
that's the luxury of it, you know. Trying to figure
out the rotational pieces, as it were, smart was huge
for them in a number of games. Derek White had
his moments, certainly the hero moment of game six see
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what I did, their hero moment of game six, but
also a guy he came in and he was ice
cold from three. He gave them a spark to where
it looked like they might have had a little bit
of running and when they got it down to seven.
But like the rest of the squad, they were nine
to forty two from three point range. They missed their
first ten. Like power of the ball inside already, get
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away from that, get back into a field, don't let
this game get away. And they let the game get
away only to keep chasing, and while they were chasing
for three games before that, which means there's not gonna
be enough left and eventually the old college try goes
out the window. I do think Austin Reeves is the
guy if you know, not to torment Frostburg over there.
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What the guys, well, I mean, we got to call
what it is when you look at who's available and
it doesn't require a trade. You already took Caruso from me.
Now you're gonna put Reeves somewhere else? Well, he's now,
uh the hell tiro in two of the largest cities
in America. Legend all defensive team too. But the idea
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that you know Reeves is he's look, they're not going
to be the only suitor that that's gonna be the
fun part for him. And we joked about it a lot
during the playoffs of you know, every two or three games,
like you know, you earned another ten million on a
contract right now. Given some of the shooting woes of
these teams down the stretch, including the Lakers, they just
don't have the financial flexibility unless they do a lot
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of wizardry. Go down the road. Well, I mean they
take all the books over to the rams and just say,
figure this out. How do we keep right? Well, they
already did that. I mean the blank depicts dude, I
got a family, good thing. You're with the Chargers. They
got they got good things ahead. But the the marketplace
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and what they need to do in Boston is a
very it's a very delicate balance because we talked about
the potential for infighting with a lot of a lot
of stories going back to the preseason and then Udoka
going out the door. How much when Missoula got hired,
was there already a level of mistrust within the organization
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of how things are being handled, how that situation was handled,
and the old the old thing is, don't feed from
the company trough is the simple thing, and don't screw
me along because people are gonna come at you. But
when you get down to the season as a whole,
their highs lows flow, and it took a lot of
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great individual efforts. I think that was something both Shack
and Barkley were talking about a little bit. The course
of the series is the offense doesn't always have a
flow to it. It's a one of these guys gets
hot and starts hitting shots, like we saw Jason Tatum
in the round against Philadelphia. Was that necessarily well executed
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offense or a guy that just took over and the
ball stopped in his hands and then everything he touched
turned to gold. I think it was the latter, as
opposed to the extra pass and things that we've been
pointing out from some of these other teams, even the heat, right,
if they had a bit of a transition opportunity, even today,
it was, well, let's make sure we get a good
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opportunity coming off a turnover, and the Celtics certainly gave
them plenty. Jalen Brown, you joked about forty eight, Well,
he had eight felt like forty eight, and they didn't
quite turn it into forty eight points. But even on
some of those breakaways where they could have probably attacked
and maybe not gotten the best look, maybe it would
have been too aggressive. In a bad set, they'd slow
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it down and wait for someone to catch up to
get an open shot, to get their number. And that's
something that you know a lot of teams certainly as
we watch the playoffs, Jayson, we saw that time and again,
whether it just wasn't the patience or trust that the
rest of the team was gonna pick it up. Twitter
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someone's gonna pay a lot of money for Austin Reeves
in the offseason. Watch out, stop it, Watch out Now.
When it comes to Joe Missoula, the much maligned It's
back as public enemy, it was either his fault or
it wasn't his fault. Uh, wasn't Missoula's gonna wind up
being the guy sacrificed? Would you say fall guy? Is
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he going to be the fall guy? He will be
the fall guy because Celtic's nation wants blood. There's got
to be someone who is responsible for this lack of advancement,
and whether it's from an overwhelming desire of fans, players,
media experts, whatever it is, there's gotta be blood for this, right,
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someone's responsible for the Celtics losing. And when Missoula, you
can look at his playoff resume and say, eh, kind
of spotty at best. He's gonna be the guy, ain't
gonna be Tatum, and ain't gonna be Oh it's Jason
dat No, Jason Tatum's gonna People are gonna say he
had the bad ankle, which is a shame. He was great. No,
we need to bring in other players. But Joe Mizula
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is not the guy. Missoula hasn't done himself any favors.
He is very short with the media. He's not very impressive,
and you see certain interviews he did tonight, his postgame
presser interview he did with NBC Boston where he's very
short and clipped. It's not a great look. And again,
on the list of reasons why he replaced the head coach,
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not being good with the media is usually pretty low
on the list. But it's part of what's going on
right now and when the narrative is we don't know
if Joe Miszula is up to the task of being
a next level head coach. He was not someone that
the Celtics went all in on and said, hey, you're
our guy. We're giving you this big ass contract. No,
it was well, we got to have somebody because Emio
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Doka wound up. They wind up kicking him out, uh
with with the big domestic situation earlier in the year. Okay,
well we got to go to Missoula, all right, Well
they won fifty seven games, they got within a game
of the NBA Finals, But it doesn't matter. He's not
their guy, and this whole offseason is not gonna go
by in Boston without there being some kind of fall guy.
And you can just tell, right or wrong, it's going
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to be Joe Mizzula, and you will start seeing. All
you need is a player to say, like Giannis with
Mike Budenholder, yeah, I don't know why we didn't do that.
More defensively, all you need is somebody says, yeah, I
don't know why we didn't say this. We could have
done that, We could have that. But he's definitely someone
that you can point to a lot of things and say,
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boy that this would have really helped, This would have
really helped. Someone's going to take the blame. Someone's gonna
take the fall, and right or wrong, it's going to
wind up being Missoula. What's curious, right, I mean, Jalen
Brown and Jason Tatum said all the things early in
the series and blame themselves. Zula did the same by saying, Hey,
it's on me, I didn't have guys prepared, etc. In
the post Jalen Brown quote, I give Joe my respect
(27:08):
talking about the job he did in this series and
over the course of the season. Maybe lip service, maybe
not enough. Jalen Brown also did a lot to try
to grab some of the blame on himself for playing
poorly today, So showing a little bit of leadership there.
But certainly with the failures as a number two seed,
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where the road opened up by these very same heat
taking down the Milwaukee Bucks, you know, expectations got even higher.
When the Bruins made their unceremonious exit from the NHL playoffs.
A lot more energy came flowing back into the Celtics
pretty fast, right because if the Bruins were still running
(27:56):
in parallel off the regular season, they had maybe the
spot lights not as uh as bright right now, but
the fact that they've been sitting home a long time
is as we watched another no show job in the
NHL tonight, Dallas, come on now, did you pull the
page from cubanh We're done. It's trying to sis but uh,
(28:18):
no show effort there. But the Bruins long being vanquished
in this stuff is not a favorite at all for
the Celtics because they're the only story in down and
look and this is this is the other part of
the Missoula Wyat's so bad is that he had questions
about his coaching acumen the entire playoff. Had they just
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lost this series in seven games to the Heat, you know,
they split the first two, they split the next two.
A win, a loss, a win, that's one thing. But
you watch the Celtics go down three zip to a
team they're more talented then, and that'd be that was
the beginning of the pitchforks. We're out a third, we
are and we are yeah, And in fact, they they
show up without an effort. This was we're we're surrounding
(29:02):
the tower and we want and we everybody is there.
We want blood. Then they come back and make it
three three, Okay, But then to lay an absolute egg
in this game and to treat it like you kind
of had the game when we talked about felt like
they won, the way they talked and acted after game
six getting it to three three, I told you you
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had two times in this series where it was wow.
The Celtics completely leg an egg. That's too that's too
tough to get by. If it was just one I
could see it. But this is Oh boy, here's the
Missoula narrative. But then it goes away. Now boy, here
it is back again. That's too much him to survive.
By the way, there's some bad energy in that building,
right I talk about the Bruins and talk about the
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Celtics here, and you look at the Celtics home playoff
record these last couple of years. How do you exercise
that thanks thunk? Do you go to the archdioces and say, hey,
we need to come in and actually get an exorcist?
Do you grab Russell Crowe from that movie that came
and went really fast that they booed when they tried
to do a promo at WrestleMania while I was there.
I mean all of the you know those kind of things.
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Is that what you do? You get Kyrie Irving to
come back one night, one night only, and look at him.
He and his sage brushes are back to help us out.
They need it. Man, Twitter and out about a fresca. Mike,
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the Shiite. I had a good run. The Jason Smith
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the play by play of the Miami Heat going to
the NBA Finals. Yeah, that'd be nice. No, But instead
we're gonna go back to a very Amus Swifty, the
play of the night. Aaron Rodgers, Miles Teller and friends
at the Taylor Swift concert this weekend. Confetti coming down
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at the end of the concert. And listen to what
Aaron Rodgers yells as the confetti is coming down and
he's taking selfies with his friends. He's yelling out the Jets, nobody,
the Jets won the Super Bowl with all the confetti
(32:31):
coming You're so excitable. Yes, yes, because we're gonna win
like you. And the ballpit at McDonald's. No, no, no, I
have gone to the ballpit in years. Come on out
the ball pets. This goes. You threw a big macket there.
I might go in to get it. But I'm not
not just going to the ballpit just to go in
the ballpit. You think Miles Teller loses any acting jobs
by hanging out? Oh yeah, Aaron Rodgers, No, he was
(32:54):
never getting a roll again. I know you kidding. He's
gonna be in uh he'll be in the Aaron Rodgers storey.
He has himself because when Rogers wins a Super Bowl
this year, They're gonna make a movie his life next year. Nice.
He's out of Top Gun three though, Uh he could
be nice. He might be leading his multi billion dollar
Top Gun universe. Yeah, I think top Yeah, watch Top
Gun him in Phoenix. Yeah, top could. Here's my top
(33:17):
four trending just because this is fun. Uh, number one,
thank you, Trish Trish Stratus Monday Night Raw. I haven't
watched it yet, but something going on there. Jeremy Strong
part of succession, Yes, right, so getting some run there.
Blake Griffin not maybe you could played. He was a
(33:37):
member of the Celtics and he well garbage time. Uh
the But the number one's most trending topic on my
list here is Bill Simmons. Yeah. I had a photo
of him going viral in social media. I don't think
there's any more expression you can find. You know, we
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always get the videos of guys blowing up their TVs
and going out Elvis and shooting them or whatever, screaming
at each other. No, the Simmons photo says it all
man watching life, Pats, but it really does it really does.
They stole his soul. Speaking of stealing, we still do
the magic, John Twinn. Okay, so yeah, why did the
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Celtics go home? Because well, well that's not entirely true,
but what the the last couple of days, you could
tell the Celtics were very self congratulatory at getting the
series to three three, like that was their accomplishment. We
get it to three three, we're home for Game seven
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and that's it, right, And that's why I told you
at three to nothing. Even the Celtics win a game two,
they're not going to put four great games together. It's
not what they do. But you could tell just what
they said, how they carried themselves. It was get this
to game seven. Get and they played game six like
it was game seven. Sorry, you got four to win,
not three, you got four, but all but the last week,
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all it was was get it to game seven. And
you see the things they said, Now we're going home.
Now we got it, Now we got it. And they
came into this game basically thinking everything we put up
is gonna go in. And I don't know if they
didn't have a great game plan. I don't know if
they were settling for shots, but they came in thinking
we're hot. Now this is ours. Everything we shoot is
gonna go in, and when it didn't, they had no
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way to adjust. It was we're gonna keep shooting threes
in the first what are you doing. We're gonna keep shooting,
keep shooting. This is not working. But you could tell
their philosophy was we're hot, everything we shoot is going
and it's gonna continue, and that's why they're going home.
They came in with a big sense of accomplishment and
they thought they were just gonna keep doing what they
were doing, and when it didn't, they had no adjustment.
And that's why they're going home. I mean, look at
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the comments through the series and the different actions, right
the go back to the original, hey get the time
out kind of thing, and then Jimmy Butler did it,
so you have three games each way there Jalen Brown saying, hey,
don't let us get one and then the national narrative
and sure as hell was the same thing in Boston,
I have no doubt was Well, there's no way that
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he could possibly go back into Boston after that deflating loss.
Not only did you give up three games, but to
lose like they did in game six, and there were
a lot of folks they're not gonna show up. It
was a good run, but they're done. It's like, what
what have we seen about this squad? They just go
out roll the ball and they go play. Yeah, and
with Boston, they're gonna roll over them. They guess everything
(36:29):
they can. We stole that game six, We're gonna roll
over them and oh wait, it's not happening. Yeah, that's
my lazy offensive sets, lazy defensive rotations. You know on
the radio call, they must have called out Al Horford
on about eight separate possessions. You want to rotate? How
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and the Celtics Season one two eighty three is your final.
We'll have more on this game coming up throughout the
final hour of the show tonight. But if you were
watching the coverage on TNT, and most everybody was, and
and you got to see at the end of their coverage,
that's TNT's final game fishing. They brought out their longtime
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producer Tim Kylee twenty seven years, he's been producing Inside
the NBA NBA games and I haven't worked with the
guy in almost thirty years. And for me to say
this tells you about the impact that Tim Kylee had
on my life and a lot of people business now, No, no, no,
Tim Kylee was the best. He was a Sports center
(01:35):
producer when I started as a as a PA at ESPN,
so he was a guy that was yelling at you,
and that's a thing. He doesn't yell you are you
hear you? Hear the phrase players coach all the time.
He's a players coach, players coach. He was a player's producer.
And I guarantee you, without ever having been in on
a rundown meeting with Inside the NBA, I know exactly
(01:58):
why that show is so great because Tim Kyley is
that kind of producer. He's one of those guys that's
not gonna come in and say okay here because he's
the guy from the beginning that started Inside the NBA.
Brought in Ernie Johnson, and then it was Kenny Smith,
and a couple of years later was Barkley and then
Check and it's been the best studio show on TV
for twenty some odd years, and it's gonna continue to
(02:20):
be great because the guy's personality has been doing it
long enough. But this show's been the best show on TV.
And you don't give the producer enough credit because the
overall feel of a show, how talent can can tell
you what they think, and the chemistry they provide awful
under the category of a producer making sure you are
(02:41):
at the best peak you are to succeed. Just be
careful because we've been doing this about a decade now,
and my guy's getting a little chesty over there. I
actually saw the mask dip for a second and he
had a big grin on his face as I'm clipping
this off from my next meeting with the bosses. Like
you know, when people have the image of a produce
on TV, it's someone walking around just screaming all the time.
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What he was. He was someone who was full of
positivity and always knew what to say. And as long
as you did, you know you did well. He reinforced
what you did and if you didn't do something well,
he found the right way to bring it to you.
To me, Hey, you know what, here's what I thought
you did really really good. And here's what I think
(03:24):
you can work on a little bit. And you know,
seeing the guys talk about him, and Shaq and Kenny
and Charles Barkley, they all said what I knew about
him thirty years ago. That's the guy he is. He
lets people be themselves. And I can't tell you what
that means for the success of television shows and radio shows. Right,
(03:46):
I'll give you an example. When I first started at
ESPN doing ESPN Radio back in two thousand and five, right,
I was here at Fox in the very beginning, and
the people in charge of Fox were very hands on
everything you wanted to do and wanted to say. And
that's tough because you want to have the sense of
a talent that I can do whatever I want to
(04:08):
as long as I don't get too crazy, and the producer,
whoever it is, will rain me in if I need to.
When I went to ESPN, we had a boss like that,
and that was the heyday of ESPN Radio, right two
thousand and five. When I was doing All Night, that
was the Hayter, Right, that was Mike and Mike, and
it was Colin, and then it was Dan, and then
it was either Eric cassili is doing the Sports Bash.
(04:30):
Then it was Game Night with Gottlieb and Freddie Coleman
and all those guys. That was the heyday of ESPN Radio, right,
That was it. That's where everybody was challenging each other
to do better, and you listen to other shows. It
was awesome. Well, and then everybody came to work with us. Exactly, Well,
that's the thing. So as time went on, the bosses
at ESPN changed and new bosses came in, and new
(04:51):
things were being thrown out there, and there was much
less freedom. There was much less freedom to be fun.
There was much it was I told you the big
saying year was have fun, but not too much fun.
It's like, what does that even mean? Don't have too
much of what separation at Church and State when you've
got Disney the top. Yeah, but you didn't need to
(05:13):
because he because it was running pretty well. Then what happened?
Then people started leaving right, I left, Gottlieb left, Not
not to say, but just who's on the air now
here at Fox Jason Gottlieb left, Colin left, Dan left right.
All four of us are all here. All four of
us are all here. And what have we seen the
last few years. Fox Sports Radio's national programming smokes ESPN's
(05:36):
smokes them because you know why, because we have bosses
out here and Don Martin and Scott Shapiro that let
us do our thing and the conversation And I can't
tell you the last time I had a conversation with
Donn or Scott that wasn't that that that involves something
we actually did on the show that it was, Hey,
maybe you should have done that. No, there's none of
those conversations. May we get random texts about Nick's jets, No,
(05:58):
we never get that. Dult life doesn't happen. But I
never get a text on it. I never get a
text on you shouldn't have tweeted that? Why did you
tweet that? Did you say this? Did you not? The
freedom we have here at Fox to do our thing
is because we're allowed to buy them by Justin and
some of the other producers that are here. Right. We
we we we get we do our thing every single night.
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And to be able to do that is a really
difficult thing because when you're a producer, you know you
want to be able to I want to be in
control of all of it. But some of the best
producers are no the talent. The guys have to do
their thing, and I have to guide the ship and
and and move in and out and and and talk
when when I know they're listening and be able to
get my point across when I know it's time. And
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that's what they do. That's what Justin does, That's what
Scott does, That's what Don does because they're you know,
because they're big producers as well. Scott was. Scott produced
Mike and Mic for so many before he came out here.
And it's the same thing I see with Inside the NBA. Right.
You watch Inside the NBA, and then you compare it
to other shows like that are on ESPN and are
(07:02):
on Fox, okay, And I watch Inside the NBA, and
I know these are guys that are having fun that
in the meetings, we want to talk about this. The
producer Tim Kylee says, yes, do this, do this great?
And if something happens, okay, hey, you know what, like
Charles Barkley said, you know, when you call me into
the principal's office. How many times is Charles Barkley really
in the principal's office. But I'm sure, it's a conversation.
Hey Charles, you maybe could have said it this way,
(07:24):
might have been a little bit better. It was fine.
And but the looseness of that, the looseness of shows
that we have here at Fox and compared to some
of this at ESPN, where stuff happens and it's well,
did you say this, did you tweet this? You're in
trouble for this? Is that? I mean, that's the difference.
It's a huge difference being able to have that free
flowing creativity, is it? And guys like Tim Kyleie are
(07:45):
at the crux Again, I haven't worked with the guy
in almost thirty years. I know exactly what he is.
He's the same guy I bet that I knew when
I worked with the MIT ESPN, and he's the same
guy that these guys have worked with for the past
twenty seven at TNT. Yeah, I mean, you can't pretend
to know, as a producer or higher up in the
corporate side of things, where everybody is and their sensibilities
(08:06):
and what they know and their personalities to one hundred
degrees right and to the one hundred percent level of
what where you're gonna go with a story may have
the basis and it's gonna go, but you got to
be given the freedom to do that. One of the
things I thought was most telling in the clip you
and I were perusing at the end of the NBA
on TNT coverage as they're they're telling him all their
(08:29):
love stories, was Kenny Smith basically saying, at the start
of it, I was really busy looking at trying to
find the camera and being distracted. You told me to
just worry about the content and that the camera was
gonna find me. And over time, yeah, that gets better ends,
a better flowing goes. But early on it was about
making a great product and then you guys made me
(08:51):
look good, you know that kind of thing of and
that coaching from a producer is huge because at the
end of the day, to steal from our guy Don
Martin would be the content is everything right where you're
looking on camera? Yeah, a couple of trolls on social media.
I gotta say, your eyes are rolled up and you're
looking off to the side, or you're you know, sitting
(09:15):
there posing like you're doing tonight. You know, like right now,
you're just doing everything. If I got that good looking
try so you got that going night. But and so
you'll get a couple of people on Twitter or guys
like Friendly who is taking an inordinate number of shots
of that because I was up quite a while. I
(09:35):
look good in my cutoff sleeve shirt. I do. I
look good. But the point being that beyond that, it's
it's more the what's the substance that you brought? And
that's the one thing I've always appreciated here at Fox.
We're we're a weird group of people, I mean, from
all sorts of places in the country, different education backgrounds
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and family backgrounds or whatever else. And it works because
you have no idea what's coming on three hours after
after we finish. Ben is, you know, a unique guy
of his own, and then you go into to Jonas
with Levarn like everybody's coming at it from different different places,
and we're allowed the flexibility and the freedom to do that.
(10:18):
And just that four minutes or whatever that was of television,
just paying tribute to him on his way out was
about all you needed. Yeah right, I mean it set
everything for a man's career, just like you let us
be us and produced one hell of a show by doing,
you know, brained us in as you needed to, but
ultimately worked with a bunch of guys who hadn't done
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this and made this the show that it is, and
it's a legendary show. It makes news all. I wish
they'd let him talk more because he's got a big
Pittsburgh accent. Does he like, oh yeah, oh hey guy, Yeah,
you guys are just the best. You know. He got
a lot of nodding in and thank you. Jason Smith knows.
He knows how we talk in Philadelphia and Pittsburgh. It's said, yo,
you know, yeah, that's how it goes. He used to
call me lunatic all the time. That was my nickname.
(11:03):
He said, hey, you lunatic everything. Okay, you wonder how
that showed up? Hey you lunatic, I do it? I mean.
He also did the producer like thing of you know,
not really saying a lot like right, I'm gonna let
you got you guys talk now. I'm done. It's your
twenty seven years old, Jason, I'm finished. Yeah, justin you
give me their budget. I'll racing to the board any
damn time. But he's got no first step, don't you know,
(11:26):
No no first He'll be falling down. No first, No
first step. But yeah, we have cameras embedded in this
block of tile. Why because Jason's gonna eat it with
some with some regularity trying to race it at the board.
And you know, and I told you that I got
in real trouble at ESPN the one time when we
did a ESPN the movie who would play certain people?
Oh yeah, ESPN was a movie and uh no, but
(11:51):
the best one was Dan Patrick was joe Ahsuzu and
he loved that. In fact, he he incorporated on the
air a couple of times. He would say, but what
do I know, I'm just a guy that looks like
Joe Ahs Susan. Right, was really funny. Uh some people.
But I got a lot of trouble because some people
didn't like who they were. They were like, oh I
am I this person? But Tim Kyleie was Michael Keaton
and it was like, yeah, one hundred percent Michael Keaton,
Tim Kyleie, Michael Keaton, Michael Keaton, Pittsburgh, whole thing. It
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just worked. But you no, I was well because when
I had hair, I was I think I was Fred Savage.
That was who was gonna play me? Was Fred Savage? Okay,
do you have a reputation like Fred Savage. No, this
is before the bad he's before the bad reputation of Fred.
Oh even well, but even before that he had a
bad reputation for But I think it was it was
(12:34):
you know, yeah, yeah, because I had the same kind
of hair as he did. And remember on Wonder Years
he wore the Jets jacket all he did have a
Jets Fred Savage, he had one of those that everybody
had their their team's version, right with those sleeves that
would start getting all dirty and you were spending a
half hour at a time trying to clean the sneep
on you. You sure it wasn't just puked on, You say, Jets,
(12:56):
But no, no, no, it was no, it was it was.
It was not. It was just you had the camouflage version.
And now I go to no sleeves because there I
am with no sleeves, my Syracuse. I'm looking. It really
is kind of a next level look. When I walked
in and you were seated in the kitchen and we
sat and watched some of the game together, I was
really taken aback by the look. One of my big
(13:17):
strengths is knowing how to cut a sweatshirt. If you
want to make it shorter sleeves or sleeves, exactly where
to do it? I think I can send me your
thing and I'll cut it for you, and I'll send
me your sweatshirt, and you know how much? How much
is an expensive scissor? Thirty bucks? And then I could
charge you what thirty But I will make this into
the best sweatshirt you could possibly have. Tell me where
(13:38):
to cut it. Can you add on like a different
color sleeve. If I wanted to replace the sleeve that's manufacturing.
I'm strictly in a in in the downside talking about
category room for expansion. No, no, how do we repurpose?
Because I told you what my specialty is. That's my
go to somebody else who wants to add stuff to it.
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You're acting like your Fred Flintstone's tailor.
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Fighty's not gonna loct up front. I don't know about
that front right Hi front, right Frontbby's not gonna lect
up front. Uh uh.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmens. It's just something
to think about when you see shows like Inside the NBA,
when you watch shows like Undisputed, all this stuff here,
just trust me. It's behind is the talent needs to
be able to be themselves and that's why inside the
NBA has been so good for so long. Great run,
Tim Kyley Twitter, and how about a fresco Mike hat
swalling down The Jason Smith Show with my best friend.
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His name is Mike Harmon. Coming up next, we got
some big Bowl predictions ahead for the Heat, the Celtics,
the Nuggets. Keep it right here, Jason and Mike. This
is Fox Sports Bowl Prediction Radio. And you know Magic,
how about you sent a couple of tweets out so
we can play the Magic Johnson Twitter game. Somebody took
it away from him. Send out to tweets then just
(15:00):
like phone. I'm telling you, I think someone took Batman
in charger match to give me the phone. Give me
the phone. Well, he started tweeting out hate tweets about
the Celtics, and there's there's a bad look for you,
Doctor Banner, Doctor Banner, put down the scepter, Doctor Banner,
put your pet.
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where we watched the Heat beat the Celtics one oh
three point eighty four. They go on to the NBA
Finals against the Nuggets. But this is going to be
a summer of change for the Boston Celtics. Oh and TJ.
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The winds of change blowing like a scorpion through Beantown. TJ,
look out it You're gonna get stuck. And TJ won
too few big city nights for the Celtics. Oh, now
we're talking. The Celtics allowed the Heat to be bad boys,
running wild and win this series. DJ uh So, he
(16:25):
just blew people's mind. Look for the Celtics. We'll get
to Joe Mizzula in a second. Watching Jalen Brown, who
had forty eight turnovers tonight against the Heat, he's a
very maddening and frustrating player, said why he didn't have
that many? I mean, obviously it felt like it. It
felt like it. I mean just unforced ones where it's
(16:48):
just I'm just dribbling and the ball is gonna go
off my leg. There were one or two good defensive
plays right, he lost track of a second guy trailing
and tap out whatever. But early in the game just atrocious.
And the guy is really talented, but he is also
very maddening, and he's someone who in this playoff run
(17:10):
is a player that lost stock. He is a stock
down player. Not to the point the Celtics are going
to trade him. But the Celtics can no longer think well,
Tatum and Brown are our guys. No, they're not right.
You've clearly seen that they both need help in different ways.
Jason Tatum needs to be more consistent. He also needs
(17:32):
to take on more of a leadership role. If you're
that best player, you have to do it. Jalen Brown
is too up and down. You can't count to them.
This doesn't mean they're getting rid of them, because it's
gonna be tough to say, Okay, we're gonna move this around. No,
they're both pretty good and Marcus Smart's a pretty good
you know it was a pretty good player too. But
they're gonna go out. Trust me. The thing they do
personnel wise this summer, they go out and get a
(17:53):
big shooter, like if I am the if I'm the Laker,
Orford's not that guy. If I'm the Lakers, I'm kind
of nervous that they might come with twenty million dollars
a year for Austin Reeves like that, Like that's with sure,
they're gonna go spend a lot of money on a
shooter because what sent them home tonight they couldn't ait three.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Well.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
The hard part is when you look at Tatum and
Browns contracts, it's like six hundred million. Yeah, I mean,
it's not a lot you can do. And it's not
like you're gonna get a lot back for Jalen Brown
right now because he's stocked down. You're not gonna trade
him high out a hot high point and say, oh, oh, well,
Jalen Brown's gonna bring us X, Y and Z. No.
It's stocked down, and these guys are such great players,
And it's tough because while you want your best players
(18:32):
to be taking all the shots, if you're not a
great three point shooter, sometimes it helps when you can
spread the floor and you can rely on somebody else
to hit those shots. But you need more offense because
so many times at the end of games for the
for the Celtics, it came down to well Tatum and
maybe Jalen Brown, what about other guys? No, because you
saw there wasn't a lot of flow to the Celtics offense.
(18:54):
They kind of did the same thing every time down
the floor. It's kind of what they do. They rely
on town. They have a couple of really talented guys,
but it's not enough. But personnel wise, watch, they're gonna
go get a shoot. They're gonna they're gonna stick with
the guys they have. Every roster has some kind of
minor turnover, and they'll have some kind of minor turnover.
But you watch Celtics go out and get a shooter.
That's to be their number one thing, and they will
(19:14):
spend a lot of money to go get a shooter
to come in to say, Okay, you're are you're our
are our third guy, you're our guy that we need
you to score twenty games. Marcus Smart, as good as
he is, that's not his game. He's a fill of
the box score, tough leader. I love Marcus Smart, but
you need somebody to give you more offense because nights
where a couple of guys aren't hitting threes and it's
not Tatum's game. Hit three after three after three, Okay,
(19:37):
you need something else, they will go get personnel wise,
they will go get a shooter. I mean, you had
Brogden who shot forty four from three in the regular season,
played seven minutes, tried to gut it out today. Yeah,
he's a six and not an instant offense. And he's
not a Tyler hero off the bench is gone thirty
or six good player. No, he's a good guy hardware.
(19:57):
But you need you need someone, hey, who can score
twenty twenty two off the bet or in the lineup,
a shooting guard or somewhere and score twenty. No, but
that's the luxury of it, you know. Trying to figure
out the rotational pieces, as it were, smart was huge
for them in a number of games. Derek White had
his moments, certainly the hero moment of game six see
(20:18):
what I did, their hero moment of game six, but
also a guy he came in and he was ice
cold from three. He gave them a spark to where
it looked like they might have had a little bit
of running and when they got it down to seven.
But like the rest of the squad, they were nine
to forty two from three point range. They missed their
first ten. Like power of the ball inside already, get
(20:39):
away from that, get back into a field, don't let
this game get away. And they let the game get
away only to keep chasing, and while they were chasing
for three games before that, which means there's not gonna
be enough left and eventually the old college try goes
out the window. I do think Austin Reeves is the
guy if you know, not to torment Frostburg over there.
(21:01):
What the guys, well, I mean, we got to call
what it is when you look at who's available and
it doesn't require a trade. You already took Caruso from me.
Now you're gonna put Reeves somewhere else? Well, he's now,
uh the hell tiro in two of the largest cities
in America. Legend all defensive team too. But the idea
(21:23):
that you know Reeves is he's look, they're not going
to be the only suitor that that's gonna be the
fun part for him. And we joked about it a lot
during the playoffs of you know, every two or three games,
like you know, you earned another ten million on a
contract right now. Given some of the shooting woes of
these teams down the stretch, including the Lakers, they just
don't have the financial flexibility unless they do a lot
(21:44):
of wizardry. Go down the road. Well, I mean they
take all the books over to the rams and just say,
figure this out. How do we keep right? Well, they
already did that. I mean the blank depicts dude, I
got a family, good thing. You're with the Chargers. They
got they got good things ahead. But the the marketplace
(22:09):
and what they need to do in Boston is a
very it's a very delicate balance because we talked about
the potential for infighting with a lot of a lot
of stories going back to the preseason and then Udoka
going out the door. How much when Missoula got hired,
was there already a level of mistrust within the organization
(22:31):
of how things are being handled, how that situation was handled,
and the old the old thing is, don't feed from
the company trough is the simple thing, and don't screw
me along because people are gonna come at you. But
when you get down to the season as a whole,
their highs lows flow, and it took a lot of
(22:54):
great individual efforts. I think that was something both Shack
and Barkley were talking about a little bit. The course
of the series is the offense doesn't always have a
flow to it. It's a one of these guys gets
hot and starts hitting shots, like we saw Jason Tatum
in the round against Philadelphia. Was that necessarily well executed
(23:15):
offense or a guy that just took over and the
ball stopped in his hands and then everything he touched
turned to gold. I think it was the latter, as
opposed to the extra pass and things that we've been
pointing out from some of these other teams, even the heat, right,
if they had a bit of a transition opportunity, even today,
it was, well, let's make sure we get a good
(23:35):
opportunity coming off a turnover, and the Celtics certainly gave
them plenty. Jalen Brown, you joked about forty eight, Well,
he had eight felt like forty eight, and they didn't
quite turn it into forty eight points. But even on
some of those breakaways where they could have probably attacked
and maybe not gotten the best look, maybe it would
have been too aggressive. In a bad set, they'd slow
(23:56):
it down and wait for someone to catch up to
get an open shot, to get their number. And that's
something that you know a lot of teams certainly as
we watch the playoffs, Jayson, we saw that time and again,
whether it just wasn't the patience or trust that the
rest of the team was gonna pick it up. Twitter
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someone's gonna pay a lot of money for Austin Reeves
in the offseason. Watch out, stop it, Watch out Now.
When it comes to Joe Missoula, the much maligned It's
back as public enemy, it was either his fault or
it wasn't his fault. Uh, wasn't Missoula's gonna wind up
being the guy sacrificed? Would you say fall guy? Is
(24:39):
he going to be the fall guy? He will be
the fall guy because Celtic's nation wants blood. There's got
to be someone who is responsible for this lack of advancement,
and whether it's from an overwhelming desire of fans, players,
media experts, whatever it is, there's gotta be blood for this, right,
(25:02):
someone's responsible for the Celtics losing. And when Missoula, you
can look at his playoff resume and say, eh, kind
of spotty at best. He's gonna be the guy, ain't
gonna be Tatum, and ain't gonna be Oh it's Jason
dat No, Jason Tatum's gonna People are gonna say he
had the bad ankle, which is a shame. He was great. No,
we need to bring in other players. But Joe Mizula
(25:23):
is not the guy. Missoula hasn't done himself any favors.
He is very short with the media. He's not very impressive,
and you see certain interviews he did tonight, his postgame
presser interview he did with NBC Boston where he's very
short and clipped. It's not a great look. And again,
on the list of reasons why he replaced the head coach,
(25:43):
not being good with the media is usually pretty low
on the list. But it's part of what's going on
right now and when the narrative is we don't know
if Joe Miszula is up to the task of being
a next level head coach. He was not someone that
the Celtics went all in on and said, hey, you're
our guy. We're giving you this big ass contract. No,
it was well, we got to have somebody because Emio
(26:03):
Doka wound up. They wind up kicking him out, uh
with with the big domestic situation earlier in the year. Okay,
well we got to go to Missoula, all right, Well
they won fifty seven games, they got within a game
of the NBA Finals, But it doesn't matter. He's not
their guy, and this whole offseason is not gonna go
by in Boston without there being some kind of fall guy.
And you can just tell, right or wrong, it's going
(26:24):
to be Joe Mizzula, and you will start seeing. All
you need is a player to say, like Giannis with
Mike Budenholder, yeah, I don't know why we didn't do that.
More defensively, all you need is somebody says, yeah, I
don't know why we didn't say this. We could have
done that, We could have that. But he's definitely someone
that you can point to a lot of things and say,
(26:45):
boy that this would have really helped, This would have
really helped. Someone's going to take the blame. Someone's gonna
take the fall, and right or wrong, it's going to
wind up being Missoula. What's curious, right, I mean, Jalen
Brown and Jason Tatum said all the things early in
the series and blame themselves. Zula did the same by saying, Hey,
it's on me, I didn't have guys prepared, etc. In
the post Jalen Brown quote, I give Joe my respect
(27:08):
talking about the job he did in this series and
over the course of the season. Maybe lip service, maybe
not enough. Jalen Brown also did a lot to try
to grab some of the blame on himself for playing
poorly today, So showing a little bit of leadership there.
But certainly with the failures as a number two seed,
(27:33):
where the road opened up by these very same heat
taking down the Milwaukee Bucks, you know, expectations got even higher.
When the Bruins made their unceremonious exit from the NHL playoffs.
A lot more energy came flowing back into the Celtics
pretty fast, right because if the Bruins were still running
(27:56):
in parallel off the regular season, they had maybe the
spot lights not as uh as bright right now, but
the fact that they've been sitting home a long time
is as we watched another no show job in the
NHL tonight, Dallas, come on now, did you pull the
page from cubanh We're done. It's trying to sis but uh,
(28:18):
no show effort there. But the Bruins long being vanquished
in this stuff is not a favorite at all for
the Celtics because they're the only story in down and
look and this is this is the other part of
the Missoula Wyat's so bad is that he had questions
about his coaching acumen the entire playoff. Had they just
(28:39):
lost this series in seven games to the Heat, you know,
they split the first two, they split the next two.
A win, a loss, a win, that's one thing. But
you watch the Celtics go down three zip to a
team they're more talented then, and that'd be that was
the beginning of the pitchforks. We're out a third, we
are and we are yeah, And in fact, they they
show up without an effort. This was we're we're surrounding
(29:02):
the tower and we want and we everybody is there.
We want blood. Then they come back and make it
three three, Okay, But then to lay an absolute egg
in this game and to treat it like you kind
of had the game when we talked about felt like
they won, the way they talked and acted after game
six getting it to three three, I told you you
(29:24):
had two times in this series where it was wow.
The Celtics completely leg an egg. That's too that's too
tough to get by. If it was just one I
could see it. But this is Oh boy, here's the
Missoula narrative. But then it goes away. Now boy, here
it is back again. That's too much him to survive.
By the way, there's some bad energy in that building,
right I talk about the Bruins and talk about the
(29:44):
Celtics here, and you look at the Celtics home playoff
record these last couple of years. How do you exercise
that thanks thunk? Do you go to the archdioces and say, hey,
we need to come in and actually get an exorcist?
Do you grab Russell Crowe from that movie that came
and went really fast that they booed when they tried
to do a promo at WrestleMania while I was there.
I mean all of the you know those kind of things.
(30:06):
Is that what you do? You get Kyrie Irving to
come back one night, one night only, and look at him.
He and his sage brushes are back to help us out.
They need it. Man, Twitter and out about a fresca. Mike,
it's swallen dumb. There's gonna be Joe Mizzula falling on
the Shiite. I had a good run. The Jason Smith
Show is my best friend, Mike carbon coming up next
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can tell you. You'll hear it tomorrow, I'm sure in
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the play by play of the Miami Heat going to
the NBA Finals. Yeah, that'd be nice. No, But instead
we're gonna go back to a very Amus Swifty, the
play of the night. Aaron Rodgers, Miles Teller and friends
at the Taylor Swift concert this weekend. Confetti coming down
(32:09):
at the end of the concert. And listen to what
Aaron Rodgers yells as the confetti is coming down and
he's taking selfies with his friends. He's yelling out the Jets, nobody,
the Jets won the Super Bowl with all the confetti
(32:31):
coming You're so excitable. Yes, yes, because we're gonna win
like you. And the ballpit at McDonald's. No, no, no, I
have gone to the ballpit in years. Come on out
the ball pets. This goes. You threw a big macket there.
I might go in to get it. But I'm not
not just going to the ballpit just to go in
the ballpit. You think Miles Teller loses any acting jobs
by hanging out? Oh yeah, Aaron Rodgers, No, he was
(32:54):
never getting a roll again. I know you kidding. He's
gonna be in uh he'll be in the Aaron Rodgers storey.
He has himself because when Rogers wins a Super Bowl
this year, They're gonna make a movie his life next year. Nice.
He's out of Top Gun three though, Uh he could
be nice. He might be leading his multi billion dollar
Top Gun universe. Yeah, I think top Yeah, watch Top
Gun him in Phoenix. Yeah, top could. Here's my top
(33:17):
four trending just because this is fun. Uh, number one,
thank you, Trish Trish Stratus Monday Night Raw. I haven't
watched it yet, but something going on there. Jeremy Strong
part of succession, Yes, right, so getting some run there.
Blake Griffin not maybe you could played. He was a
(33:37):
member of the Celtics and he well garbage time. Uh
the But the number one's most trending topic on my
list here is Bill Simmons. Yeah. I had a photo
of him going viral in social media. I don't think
there's any more expression you can find. You know, we
(33:58):
always get the videos of guys blowing up their TVs
and going out Elvis and shooting them or whatever, screaming
at each other. No, the Simmons photo says it all
man watching life, Pats, but it really does it really does.
They stole his soul. Speaking of stealing, we still do
the magic, John Twinn. Okay, so yeah, why did the
(34:18):
Celtics go home? Because well, well that's not entirely true,
but what the the last couple of days, you could
tell the Celtics were very self congratulatory at getting the
series to three three, like that was their accomplishment. We
get it to three three, we're home for Game seven
(34:40):
and that's it, right, And that's why I told you
at three to nothing. Even the Celtics win a game two,
they're not going to put four great games together. It's
not what they do. But you could tell just what
they said, how they carried themselves. It was get this
to game seven. Get and they played game six like
it was game seven. Sorry, you got four to win,
not three, you got four, but all but the last week,
(35:02):
all it was was get it to game seven. And
you see the things they said, Now we're going home.
Now we got it, Now we got it. And they
came into this game basically thinking everything we put up
is gonna go in. And I don't know if they
didn't have a great game plan. I don't know if
they were settling for shots, but they came in thinking
we're hot. Now this is ours. Everything we shoot is
gonna go in, and when it didn't, they had no
(35:24):
way to adjust. It was we're gonna keep shooting threes
in the first what are you doing. We're gonna keep shooting,
keep shooting. This is not working. But you could tell
their philosophy was we're hot, everything we shoot is going
and it's gonna continue, and that's why they're going home.
They came in with a big sense of accomplishment and
they thought they were just gonna keep doing what they
were doing, and when it didn't, they had no adjustment.
And that's why they're going home. I mean, look at
(35:45):
the comments through the series and the different actions, right
the go back to the original, hey get the time
out kind of thing, and then Jimmy Butler did it,
so you have three games each way there Jalen Brown saying, hey,
don't let us get one and then the national narrative
and sure as hell was the same thing in Boston,
I have no doubt was Well, there's no way that
(36:06):
he could possibly go back into Boston after that deflating loss.
Not only did you give up three games, but to
lose like they did in game six, and there were
a lot of folks they're not gonna show up. It
was a good run, but they're done. It's like, what
what have we seen about this squad? They just go
out roll the ball and they go play. Yeah, and
with Boston, they're gonna roll over them. They guess everything
(36:29):
they can. We stole that game six, We're gonna roll
over them and oh wait, it's not happening. Yeah, that's
my lazy offensive sets, lazy defensive rotations. You know on
the radio call, they must have called out Al Horford
on about eight separate possessions. You want to rotate? How
about your rotate? Twitter? It out about a fresco. Mike
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