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June 1, 2023 • 35 mins

Jason Smith and Mike Harmon discuss the upcoming NFL Finals between the Heat and Nuggets, can Nikola Jokic carry the Nuggets to their first NBA title, and a couple NFL superstars who may be on the trading block soon! Plus, with Shannon Sharpe leaving Undisputed after the finals, the guys give you their best audition to join FS1.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
This is the best of The Jason Smith Show with
Mike Harmon on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 3 (00:29):
Greetings and welcome inside.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
Happy Wednesday, The Jason Smith Show with my bas friend
Mike Harmony.

Speaker 3 (00:36):
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I'm gonna have to call you skip the entire night
because I'm going to audition for an disputed I think we.

Speaker 3 (01:01):
Just yell at each other for four hours. I'm gonna
call you skip skip skip it was good to do it.
Skip skip. I'm gonna demean everything you've done in your
broadcasting career. I'm gonna make fun of your tailoring of
your sleeves. H okay, and I I'm really I'm just
gonna start screaming. I told Tyshert long ago that as
I get ready for my next birthday, it's it's a

(01:22):
full uh Swedish death clean cleansing, including the personality that
on air, I Am just going to be full of
hatred and vitriol and scream for four hours. What the
hell is the Swedish death cleansing? Is that a band? No,
it's it's a no, no, It's it's a philosophy whereby
you take the time as you're starting to age to

(01:45):
give away things to friends and family that you think
they might enjoy to remember you by, and you kind
of minimize the stuff, right, It's that what was there, Marie?

Speaker 1 (01:56):
Okay, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minuteute.
So we had the Marie condo. Hey, yeah, clutter from
your life, but instead you're talking about Swedish death, Swedish
death match or whatever it is.

Speaker 3 (02:04):
Yes, so when you're defeated, they don't have to go
through a bunch of crap.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
It's just turnkey and you move on. But yeah, but
you could, you could choose the Marie condo. Hey, although
now Marie Condo is all for clutter. So I mean,
but Swedish death cleaning sounds so much better. There's no,
I don't want to I don't want to clean and
then die at the end.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
I don't know. I'm not saying that you're not going
anywhere imminently. It's just the idea of you've got stuff
that you don't need that's just kind of sitting around,
or maybe you've had some hang ups on how you operate.
I'm extending the definition of this. Uh, and you just
let those all go and you look forward.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
You had me at Swedish, but the death stuff, I mean,
you know, come on.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
You want to go to Sweet Sweetish. Let's go back museum.
You guys want to go you.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
Well, I don't know if they allow you in now
because you're but you're talking about Swedish.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
No, I don't. I don't know. Man, you walk in
with that kind of attitude. I'm here, I'm just gonna
give stuff away and then uh no, I'm not dying imminently.
And look, there might be some folks that would be
happy if that happened. I don't know. But the idea
is that we're gonna leave some of the pragmatism uh
and the well reason takes, and we're just gonna go

(03:18):
for the lowest common denominator, which is what draws a
much larger paycheck. Forever is gone. Skip, I've won this
debate already. I'm about Marie Condo positivity. You're about death
in Sweden. And that's you know, that's all I've already won. Skip,
I already won one. Nothing I've won. I've won. You
want too dark, you want to no, no, no, no no.

(03:39):
I didn't say I was. It's it's just a euphemism
for that when you leave this mortal coil, long, long
down the line. But in the interim, people get to
enjoy some of the things that you've enjoyed. Maybe maybe
it's a trading card. Maybe I find you a nice
uh classic Richard Todd card to add to your collection
or to hang up somewhere around the studio. Maybe there's

(04:02):
another picture of a met that would get you excitable.
I don't know. Maybe maybe it's a Satchel a big
Max and I've been storing away. That's a scientific experiments
thoughts tonight.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
Yeah, there we go, Satchel a big mat. That's how
you want a debate with me? Hey, oh, it's stopped.
Let him thinking about food and Big Max. All right,
now he's gotta no, I gotta focus.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
I gotta focus on I've distracted him and now I'm
taking a bunch of kidney punches and taken about if
I'm going in first.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
Shannon Sharp here and I got I gotta, I gotta
win all these I gotta. I gotta not be focused
on food. I gotta be focused on sports.

Speaker 4 (04:36):
How's your sweater game?

Speaker 3 (04:37):
Gotta get me there? Oh, I gotta let's see. You
might have to invest in a in a tailor with
some good checkerboard patterns. All right, well, now here's the thing.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
Now, Now, would they allow me to do the show
in a T shirt, sweatpants and a baseball hat like that?
That's that's the big thing. If they allow me to
do that, I'm in. But if they can't, I may
have to pass on it.

Speaker 3 (04:55):
The other thing is you're gonna have to become superstand
for Lebron James to the point where you literally get
on a court and fight people.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
No, no, no, no no. I gotta do that for
the Knicks. I do that for the Knicks and Aaron
Rodgers and all that stuff. Now it's it's got to
be new people. Now, it's guy we got, we gotta
roll three. He can't keep doing the same thing to
get got people. Well, someone someone he still needs protecting.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
He does, sure, sure, okay, but I I want to
do I want to do my thing.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
I gotta I gonna do my thing and expand it.
I want to dress casual, I mean really casual, and
and and and that's how I'm gonna do it.

Speaker 3 (05:27):
That's every day you walk in with a one of
those sleeveless sweatshirts. That's my hand on. Now.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
I can't go sleeveless because that that's Pat McAfee's thing
is I'm sleeveless and.

Speaker 4 (05:36):
I curse, so I can't trade market.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
I can't. Yeah, but the sleeveless thing people, not me,
buckets people. And he's going to ESPN. They're gonna make
him wear a damn suit pole that's true. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
he's gonna yeah, that's true. He's gonna have to wear.
That's one of those things he's lost in the process.
He's sure that casual thing and the cursing are all gone.
He's got to create a whole new persona.

Speaker 4 (05:58):
Tops and uh, you know they're all going to have
to go now.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
Yeah, you know you want you want a great ESPN
ESPN two story real fast before I'll tell you this
real fast. So when ESPN two first started, right now
you think, oh my god, ESPN two, Yes, I was.
I was a producer there for the birth of ESPN
two before it became a talent. So we get there
and they want to differentiate ESPN two from ESPN and
and nobody knew how to do like, how do we

(06:22):
do it? How do we make sure like we put
certain people on ESPN two, but they won't appear on ESPN.
How do we do it? How do we differentiate? And
they decided their thing was on ESPN two, nobody would
wear ties. So that was the thing. Nobody would wear ties.
So when you were on TV, you didn't wear a tie.
It's how he said, Okay, we know it's ESPN two,
it's not wearing ties. So the best part of this
is I'm leading this story so we're doing an interview

(06:44):
because I'm working on ESPN two at the time, and
we're doing it doing an interview. It's the Sports Night
show with it was Kenny Maine and and Susieklber and
Keith Oldman and the I want to say, UMass just
made it. Made it on in the NCAA tournament, going
somewhere I forgetting. Cali Perry was the head coach. So
they said, John, do you have a couple of minutes
for ESPN and then ESPN two. He said yeah, sure,

(07:07):
so we see him. You know, he's up doing the
interview from site. You know Cali Perry, he loves the media.
Of course he's gonna have time. They would have said,
do you have time for somebody's kid here doing an
interview just in his living room, and they would say, yeah, sure, no, proud,
we got all kinds of time for that. So so
so Cali Perry does the interview with ESPN and everything's fine.
They go, okay, John, we'll be ready for you guys

(07:27):
ESPN two in like ninety seconds, not even if you
want to get warning.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
He goes, yeah, sure, I'm fine, I'm fine.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
So they get ready to go on and they get
ready to go on, and I think it was Stu
Scott that that actually came on. Stu Scott and Susie
Callber were doing the interview and they start talking to John.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
Hey, we're here with John Canes.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
Wait stop stop stop, guys, stop stop stop, and he goes, wait,
what's wry?

Speaker 3 (07:43):
He go wait, wait, wait, and.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
He starts taking his tie off and he goes, I
know this on ESPN two, you guys don't wear ties.

Speaker 3 (07:48):
Hang on, let me take my tie off. So we
waited for it.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
Just took him like a minute to take his tie
off and go all right, I'm good.

Speaker 3 (07:55):
Now ready, let's do the interview.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
So he actually did that because he knew he didn't
wear ties on ESPN two.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
That's pretty good. I mean, look, you gotta find your in,
find your wins where you can, and decide how you're
gonna go. I remember I used to say yes to
every request right as podcasting grew. I had one early
on and then had to kind of bounce it as
a signed contracts and and had to push that away.
But I remember going on one that immediately they just

(08:23):
started asking me, so, what the what's the deal with this?
Blankety blank, and why is he such a blanky blank
blank blank receiver? And I'm just like, yeah, I think
this will be the last appearance on this I think,
you know, coming from traditional radio and trying to be
serious about it, I.

Speaker 4 (08:42):
Was like, ah, hey, so there's one test that you
have to pass before you can get your audition.

Speaker 3 (08:51):
Oh what's the test we have to pass?

Speaker 4 (08:52):
You have to be able to kick John Moran's dad's ass.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
Oh all right, well he's in. Could I do the Yeah,
he's kind of he's been a quiet for a while.
I'll just tell him mine. Hey, I know Jack Nicholson.
I can get you more pictures with Jack, and then
he would, then he would then he would lay off me.

Speaker 4 (09:06):
But you don't know Jack Nicholson.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
No, I don't.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
But I could say it he doesn't know that, and
then that would buy me a lot of time.

Speaker 3 (09:11):
I think I.

Speaker 4 (09:12):
Think everybody knows that.

Speaker 3 (09:13):
Listen, I listen. I'm all about kicking the can down
the road. Man. Until something, I'll kick that can down
the road. It's all good.

Speaker 4 (09:18):
And how do you not know Jack? You've been in
LA for how long?

Speaker 3 (09:21):
I should I should know Jack? But I don't. Oh,
he has been a recluse for a decade, has.

Speaker 4 (09:26):
Been held that guy's hand for like twenty minutes straight.

Speaker 3 (09:29):
Now, that's that's a fair point. How do you not
have a plaster mold of his hand in your show?

Speaker 1 (09:38):
Like Jack Nicholson's not somebody I went crazy to shake
his hand. It's easy. I mean, Jack Nicholson's Jack Nicholson.
But you know I'm not a guy to go crazy
jacobs him instead. I have never sat courtside. I've never
sat next to Jack. I mean they're great seats.

Speaker 3 (09:53):
I got to do court side once in Dallas many
years ago. Oh okay, I would say, beave yourself. Well,
I was just laughing the whole night. I could. I
couldn't get a word in because look, it's one of
those things, and I think we've talked about it before
in our long run together here on Fox Sports Radio.
Is if you want to go see a game in

(10:16):
a whole different way, right, get on the sidelines of
a high level college or NFL game. Obviously, the sounds,
the sites, all of those things, the chills and the
speed of things will just blind you. But an NBA game,
if you can get down court side to where you
can hear the smack talking, and you could hear what
guys are running at the referees. You'll never look at

(10:39):
a game the same way. And you laughed your ass
off the entire.

Speaker 4 (10:44):
From the court side seats.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
Yeah, like I remember when Kurt Chilling did that. Boy,
Kobe uses the f wort all the time, yelling at
his teammates. Is that the right thing to do? I
don't know everyone that was a big thing. Hey, Kobe
just kind of yelled at his teammates.

Speaker 3 (10:55):
Well, I went and saw so like Cuban obviously the
ties to Yahoo. When I was with them way back
in the day. They hooked me up when I was
traveling for a family thing and just said, hey, go
to the box office. No idea a sponsor. Yeah. All
I knew was they were getting me four tickets. Beyond
that I had no clue. And then the envelope said

(11:16):
from the Office of the Commissioner, and it was signed
by Cuban, saying have a good time. Okay, this looks
like it could be fun. You pull off the tickets,
You're like okay, and then all of a sudden you're
going and like no, keep coming, keep coming, And this
ends up being Mavericks during the Triple JS and Alan
Iverson coming back off an injury, so he's wearing the

(11:36):
huge sleeve, not quite braced, but from the fuck it
is full on in and they just hammered the hell
out of him every time he's got the ball, and
he's cursing, and they're ron and smack all night long.
And then towards the end he goes in and hits
a layup that pretty much seals it and won, and
by then it's quiet enough and he just screams at

(11:57):
the official and he gets like five F bombs in
a sentence, and the official just and he's taken it
all night long, right, all these guys, you know, and
he goes, well, there's I have to tee you up
for that. Like everybody heard that. So it was one
of those and you're looking wrong on Yeah, I don't
know that I ever want to go to another NBA.

(12:18):
It came again. I don't know if I can't replicate
this experience.

Speaker 4 (12:22):
So I think you're banned from the arena after Yeah,
I don't.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
I don't think you can. I think you're I think
you're done. Yeah, it's it's costly and obviously here in LA.
We know what those run because they put it up
on the broadcast at every turn to tell you how
much somebody's paying for a ticket.

Speaker 4 (12:38):
They actually pay you to sit courtside out of the
next game.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
No stop, come on, that was years ago. Now you
actually have to pay to get in now. Now you
have to the team is good. Now you have to
pay to get in now. Since the middle of this season,
you have to pay to get in there told me
that there's no buy a big Mac get a free
Knicks ticket, right, there's not that doesn't happen anymore.

Speaker 3 (12:57):
You don't know not No, it's not a thing. It's
not a thing. Nope, no, not a thing. Can't do Yeah,
we're gonna have to google that one.

Speaker 5 (13:04):
No.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
Sure, there's no at the end of your McDonald's coupon
booklet a free ticket for the Nix and the MAVs.

Speaker 3 (13:10):
No, there's none of that. No, you don't have that anymore.
Aaron is at the bottom of the happy meal. Yay.
Oh man, I wanted a little Mermaid toy and I got.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
This stick and Knicks ticket. Be sure to catch live
editions of The Jason Smith Show with Mike harmon weekdays
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Radio and the iHeartRadio app. Well, we got Mark Stein
coming up in a few minutes.

Speaker 6 (13:35):
Steyline NBA, all the latest on Monnie Williams, who's getting
six years and seventy two million dollars to coach the business,
who not to play for them, to coach them.

Speaker 3 (13:45):
Plus, we haven't seen the fine print off the Clow's
contract that suddenly there was the clause about waivers and
stuff about a foot injury. Monny might need to suit up.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
Well, maybe maybe that's gonna be part of it what
we see.

Speaker 3 (13:59):
You know, that's gonna be how it works. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
It might be you got to Oh I did? We
didn't tell you have to play too. Yeah, that's how
we do things. Aaron Detroit. We're not just gonna give
you that money, fat, We want you to do two jobs,
So you're gonna have to play Monty. Hopefully you can
still get a couple updowns.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
Maybe it'll work for us. You're also the assistant to
the kitten manager. Very nice.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
So and we'll get to Ted Lasso coming up in
a bit too, because there's so much to get to
coming off of that But the topic that I hate
to talk about the most is I hate to say
I told you so.

Speaker 3 (14:32):
You know me. I don't like it, My Carmen, I
don't like doing it. It's I mean, we haven't done
it yet today. No, I haven't done you Oh that's true.
I haven't done it yet today. No. But I hate
to say I told you so. But it could be
one of your new new segments, feed your segment that
Jen Hale gets to throw up to you.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
But I hate to say I told you so about
Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 3 (14:56):
What happened today? Well, first of all, let me go back.
What did I tell you was?

Speaker 1 (15:01):
My biggest fear was gonna happen during the whole Aaron
Rodgers goes to the Jets first year.

Speaker 3 (15:06):
What cat was gonna blow up?

Speaker 1 (15:08):
His cat is fine, He's going He's gonna be back
at practice on Friday, So stuff it all right. He's
back on Friday. Bryce Hollos who I'm worried about. And
he's either on a great path to return or it's
a really awful path, depending on who you listen to.

Speaker 3 (15:21):
Roger got too many friendship bracelets at the Taylor Swift concert.
Roger by fine weighted down his shoulder to h to
where it's torn. Come on, man, the dude was on
camera going the Jets won the Super Bowl drunk. Listen,
I'll tell you this and I'll you know, just let
me say this before you get into I told about
Aaron Rodgers. The guy is not going out of his

(15:44):
way to say, look at me. If he was going
to suck, it's not happening. Sometimes you don't get to
control that you.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
I'm pretty sure Aaron Aaron Rodgers knows his career pretty well.
I'm pretty sure after being in the league, as long
as he has winning MVPs, when he's Super Bowl, I
think he knows that he's gonna have a year and
when he could suck, he wouldn't be doing this. If
he was going to suck, he wouldn't say look at me,
look at me, look at me. If it was gonna
be a year where dude, you know, come on, you
threw less touchdowns than Zach Wilson. Don't think that's I

(16:11):
am eminently confident that it's gonna be a big year
for Aaron Rodgers. The only thing I was worried about,
what did I tell you'd be worried about is that
now that he gets he's away from Green Bay, what's
going to happen?

Speaker 3 (16:22):
Well, things look great and maybe this is gonna be
the plan.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
When Aaron Rodgers is living high on the hog and
here he is a Taylor Swift putting out videos.

Speaker 3 (16:30):
Everything is great. You are gonna start.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
Seeing, sources, Aaron Rodgers blank with the Green Bay Packers.
You are going to see the same thing that happened
to Russell Wilson last year once he was no longer
a Seattle Seahawk, and this was gonna be stories are
gonna get out that we're gonna be embarrassing for him
because the Packers don't have to protect him anymore. You
know what's been a big Aaron Rodgers versus the Packers

(16:54):
the last couple of years.

Speaker 3 (16:55):
And the guys in.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
The front office they've been waiting, waiting. When can we
let these stories go about stuff Aaron Rodgers has done
over the past fifteen years, and today was the first
one because what happened today, Hey, sources, Aaron Rodgers called
for GM Brian Gudacuns to be fired during the twenty
twenty one season. He said, either he goes or I go.

(17:19):
He wanted his general manager fired. Obviously, it didn't work out.
Gutakun stayed. They talked it through and Roger Stad won
the MVP. But here's your first one, Rogers said him
or me, I want the GM fired. The big power
play he bowled, which is not a shock to all.
Does that mean that we got to wait another week
till we hear it?

Speaker 3 (17:38):
Oh? Yeah. By the way, he also talked about getting
Lafleoor bounced to Oh no, no, that is that the
next shooting drop. Look, none of them like you, like you,
like you. That guy's a shareholder and I love him.
You're cool. Goodbye.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
Here's here's where I am is that when these stories
get out, I hold my breath and I go, okay,
this is this is a be ninn one because this
is a very benign and this might just be the Hey,
we're just getting started here. Okay, we're gonna warr you
up with a pretty easy one. He wanted the GM fired.

Speaker 3 (18:08):
Okay, we knew that.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
He didn't get along with Kuda Kunz, didn't like him,
didn't like what was going on in the front office.

Speaker 3 (18:12):
I was going on for a couple of years. But
just look at the whole draft history in the first round. Yeah,
didn't take a genius to realize. He probably wasn't thrilled.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
But I told you this was gonna happen, and it's
gonna happen in regular intervals, and each story is just
gonna get crazier and crazier, just like it was with
Russell Wilson, just like was oh his behavior?

Speaker 3 (18:33):
What was he like?

Speaker 1 (18:33):
Now Richard Sherman is talking more. I don't have to
worry about the Seahawks. And then you know it culminates
in the office story. Come to my office, I diagram
plays if you have. I need to be away from
the rest of the team.

Speaker 3 (18:45):
This is how bad it was for Russell Wilson.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
He was playing badly. He wanted out in Seattle. You
know that Schneider and Carol wanted to make sure. Hey,
we want people to know what we put up with
with him here right, The excellence we had was great.
We protected him. I protected him from the rest of
the team when they mad at him. And this is
how he treats us Uta. These stories are gonna get out,
and Russell Wilson had a miserable year last year to

(19:08):
the point where now he is playing for his job.
He's playing, He's not playing for anything else. And we
told you this in the offseason. Here comes Sean Payton,
and now it's can I fix Russell Wilson. This is
not hey, now he's got a few years. This is
Russell Wilson playing for his job this season. We told
you months ago, and now I saw a couple people
with that you know, might be playing for his job.
You congratulations coming around to that, maybe you bookmark the

(19:30):
tweet and then say that I don't know that. But
this is where it is with Aaron Rodgers. Now this
is just the first of what's going to be many
And this is one where I held my breath. I
looked at it and I said, okay, this is all cool.
I get controversy. Yes, we know Aaron Rodgers tried to
pull a power plane, wanted the GM fired. Okay, this
is fine. What's the next one. I'll dread the next one,
but this one, this is not a big deal. But

(19:50):
I think this is just the opening salvo saying you
just wait, this is the first one. You want to
see how many I got? You want to see how
many arrows I got in this quiver? This was just
the first one. This is the first flaming arrow that
I shot over to your side to start the war
like a battle in brave Art.

Speaker 3 (20:06):
This is the first way. Do you see all the other.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
Arrows I got coming full of flames and all kinds
of stuff, And I got robots that with killer hands
and that can fly in from outers case. Wait, we
got it all coming for you. This is just the
first tiny arrow, just to see. With a little bit
of fire, we could wind up lighting up in New York. Oh,
don't worry the next one. The next one's gonna be
a little bit better. The one after that will be
better than that, and the one after that after that.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
Trust me.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
This is how it's gonna go for Aaron Rodgers and
the Jets. That's what I'm in fear of. That's what
I live in fear of waking up every day going
is the day of the day we get some kind
of crazy ass bombshaalot of Green Bay. That's gonna be
so embarrassing for the Jets and Aaron Rodgers. But today
was not that day.

Speaker 3 (20:41):
At my signal unleash. Hell. Look, there may be a
bunch of these, but at no point as long as
they stay in this general vicinity. Nobody ever painted him
out as a happy, go lucky, nice guy who loved
everybody in any part of the bill, except if you
were a veteran player. You got a little bit of

(21:03):
love and he wants to play with you forever. That's
not a bad thing to have such job security. But
the one thing you wanted that wasn't present the last
couple of years in Green Bay was Hey, I'm just
going to work and I'm gonna go and be part
of the workouts. I'm going to embrace teammates, I'm gonna

(21:26):
be out and about. I'm gonna be part of the community.
All of those things, right, He didn't walk the earth.
What's he doing. He's going to concerts, He's showing up
at ball games, he was at hockey games during the playoffs,
all of these things right, immersing himself and saying, hey,
I'm a good guy. I'm one of the guys. In
Green Bay. It was separate, separate from everybody, and he

(21:48):
was walking the earth and I'll get there when I
get there. With Russell Wilson, the problem with him is
he didn't leave all of that in Seattle, right. All
of those could have just been Ah, well, that's Seattle.
He's in a new place. Problem was he still wanted
in his own office. He wanted people around him that
weren't part of the team. All of those things, you know,
his own personal staff of massuses and therapists and yes

(22:13):
men all over the facility. Which when you're not playing well,
guess what happens, Well, you kind of get badgered for that.
Otherwise you're a delicate genius. It's a very fine line,
all right. If he was playing well, it's like, hey,
you know what, he's got people that pick up a
lot of the slack and let him just concentrate on
being a quarterback instead. No, what was it? Russell's unfocused, undisciplined,

(22:38):
He's on another floor from everybody else, all these other things.
Oh and he's added a bunch of weight. Right as
soon as they start fat shaming a guy, you know
you've gone down a whole other path because the rest
of it that comes last, Right, Ben Roethlisberger, he had
to have all the other issues before. It was like,
you know, Ben comes into camp a little overweight. Each

(22:59):
year you get older, is that gonna shed the same way?
Russell's in that age range now, so that goes front
and front and center, whereas it might have just been
a I'll work himself into shape. It'll be all fine,
because if you don't play well out of the gate,
there's gotta be reasons slash excuses for Aaron Rodgers right
now in in New York is the life of the party. Right,

(23:22):
Everything's great, everything Sonny in New Jersey.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
Ah, you were so close, buddy, You were so close.
You were so close. You were so close to making
Aaron Rodgers into Doyle McPoyle. Oh, you were so close.
It was it was, it was right there.

Speaker 3 (23:38):
I was got it for you, buddy. But you know what,
And then the show that that does return soon, hopefully
it'll be better than the ending of all the other ones.
I just bit a do too that I want to
burn in a trash can.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
But look, I'm telling you, man, it's this is how
it's gonna go, and and and Aaron Rodgers. And I'm
sure he knows a lot of the stuff that's gonna
get out there, and is he gonna get out in
front of it? You know, we tried to a little
bit today, you know, talking about goodacunsk going. I didn't
ghost him. I didn't ghost the guy.

Speaker 3 (24:05):
We talked. Now, I talked to people. I like, yeah, yeah,
exactly right, A great quote that one.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
Yeah, and it was great, right, it was you know,
he doesn't like Gudacu, okay. And if it's this stuff
where oh we don't like him, he didn't like me,
that's fine. But it's if it gets to that point
where it's, hey, he had an office and you know
you had to go up and talk like the russ
Not that he did, but I'm saying the Russell Wilson
story of having an office on the second floor above

(24:31):
where the team was, and hey, come to me with
ideas for plays, like if that's the stuff that gets out, man,
that's that's gonna that's that's ruinous stuff. But if it's
like this, and it's just he said, she said, with
the front office, he said, he said, with the front office, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (24:44):
That's gonna be. Okay.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
So what this one's okay? I knew it was coming
and okay, I dodged the bullet here. Now it's okay.
Is the next one? How is it going to be?
But I am okay with this. I know the future
is coming, So you can't tell me I'm not going
to be prepared for it because the sunshine, lollipops and
rainbows days with the Jets, there's gonna be some rain
in those days, especially when the packers are all right, now,
why do I tell you this story about in twenty
sixteen with Rogers.

Speaker 3 (25:06):
Let me tell you Rogers, Rogers, Let me tell you
ro I want to go back and give you a
couple of quotes from this appearance that he made, just
because you know the humble superstar speaks quote. You're gonna
stand on this hill of austerity and say that, arguably
in the conversation, the best player in your franchise history.
You're gonna say, I couldn't get a hold of him,

(25:27):
and that's why we had to move on. Like, come on, man,
just tell the truth. You wanted to move on. You
don't like the fact that we didn't communicate all the time,
Like listen, I talk to the people that I like,
beat it ghost. I was.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
I was happy when he used the word austerity. No,
I mean, I don't know that I've ever used that.
I mean, I know the word and I know what
it means, but I don't know that I've ever used
austerity in conversation.

Speaker 3 (25:52):
I'll see if we can't drop that in. I might
make that part of As my daughters go into their
finals and everything final projects for the year, see if
they can't get us a little bit of, you know,
some big words into their final essays.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
You need to take your finals with a degree of austerity.
That's gonna allow you to make the best grade you can.
Something like that might work.

Speaker 3 (26:13):
No, I like that, that's good. Austerity, austerity, the austerity.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
Nobody Better an NBA insider Mark Steine, who joins us
now on the Hotline. You can fill him on Twitter
at the Steinline to check out this League Uncut podcast
for all your big stories this week.

Speaker 3 (26:38):
In the NBA. But Mark, I gotta tell you the
big news tonight.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
Manti Williams goes to the Pistons nine years, seventy eight
million dollars. Is he gonna play too? Is this a
coaching only? Does he have to play to earn this money?

Speaker 5 (26:51):
Hey man? They needed a star, they needed a presence,
They needed a leader. They need someone who can establish
a culture and field the program. And you know, I
actually reported it was right after the draft lottery. I
was in Chicago for the Draft lottery, and what I
had heard at the time was that the Pistons were
hoping that obviously they win the Wembin Yama sweepstakes, and

(27:16):
then they were hoping from there to put the full
court press on MANI Williams, thinking, don't want to come
to Detroit. Now we've got the next generational talent to
come into the league. Well, obviously they didn't get web
Min Yama. They slipped all the way to number five
from from the worst record in the league. They fell
as far as they could a really rough lottery night,

(27:38):
but they went after money anyway, and they you know,
he turned them down at least once, from what I'm
being told, and they just continued to put you know,
there's no salary cap for coaches, and they took advantage
of that. And I think, you know, Tom Gores, you
got to give them a lot of credit because he
put an insane number on the table and they got

(27:59):
them Elms, A true leader and someone who I think
a lot of people around the league felt like it
was a harsh dismissal in Phoenix.

Speaker 3 (28:08):
To put it kindly, now much speculation about the roster
next year in Boston, but certainly the coaching staff under
fire in Missoula. Nobody liked any of his answers to
anybody along the process in terms of doing interviews Mark,
but also the idea that a number of those assistants
are going to end up going away, including many two

(28:31):
former coaches, Edoka, how are they planning to handle this
and how much different did the Celtics look next year?

Speaker 5 (28:38):
Well, look even in the Philly as far back as
the Philly Series, I would say there were already rumbling
about what next season's coaching staff might look like. You know,
it wasn't Jaime Udoka who left. They lost Will Hardy,
who proved what a tremendous coach he is by grinding
out a win total in the thirties in Utah when

(28:59):
that's was expected to be a wem Miyama contender. And
they also lost Damon Stodommeyer, who left in season to
go to Georgia Tech to go back to the college game,
and they didn't replace either one. So even in the
Philly series, there were already rumblings that Boston would want
to try to hire Frank Vogel and Steven Silas as
assistant next year to bring some more experience there in

(29:23):
support of Joe Mizzoula. So I don't know that they
will get both. I don't know that they can hire
Vogel and Stephen Silas. I know if Frank Vogel decides
that he wants to be an assistant, and I don't
think he's decided that yet. He's still in the running
for the Phoenix job, and he's been in some of
these other coaching searches for head coaching vacancies. If he
decides he's willing to be an assistant, Dallas would also

(29:44):
have interests, so Vogel would have options there. But clearly
there's going to be a new look on the Boston bench.
I don't think there's any question about that.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
NBA insider Mark Stein our guest right now here on
Fox Sports Radio, Mark is on his way to Denver
for the final Are you on the plane the airport?

Speaker 3 (30:00):
Where are you right now?

Speaker 5 (30:02):
I'm not on my way to Denver. I am on
a plane.

Speaker 3 (30:05):
Okay, that's the most.

Speaker 5 (30:06):
That's the most I can tell you. If I tell
you anything, it's classified. If I tell you it, don't
make me me on the radio if I have to
tell you.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
Wow, okay, wait, whoa okay, wait a minute, now, this
is this is clandestine stuff, all right. Uh hey, so
while you are headed wherever you are headed now to
see wherever it is, Hey, I.

Speaker 3 (30:23):
Understand at a level of intriguing and now I'm want
it now. I'm waiting.

Speaker 1 (30:26):
Now, I'm waiting for a big breaking news. I'm waiting
for like the Knicks to trade for Giannis. I mean,
That's what I'm waiting for right now. I'm saying, but.

Speaker 5 (30:34):
I don't know that I can deliver on that level.
I might be I might be over hyping.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
It's just okay, hey, so we get to the finals now.
On your latest podcast, This League Uncut, you talk a
lot about the finals. But one thing you you mentioned
that you you break down with Chris Haynes is what
daily life is like with Nicola Jokic. Give us a
little bit of that, what like, well, what are you
getting into daily life with Nicola Jokic?

Speaker 5 (30:59):
Well, really it was a convert you. Calvin Booth obviously
was our guests, the general manager of the Nuggets, So
it was really just to kind of get his deeal,
you know, because obviously this was you know, this was
a difficult second half of the season for Jokic, and
as much as he gives the impression that he's not
listening to anything, we say that he's not listening to
your radio show. The noise, you know, Calvin Booth acknowledged

(31:21):
that some of the noise did reach Jokic and frankly
that whole team. And you know, the Nuggets finished, they
were seven and ten to finish the regular season, and
it was kind of that. I think that uninspired finish
is what led people to question their playoff capabilities because really,
these guys have They've been the runaway leaders in the

(31:42):
West for months. But it was you know, Jokic didn't
finish the season with a flourish. She ended up not
winning the MVP Award, and you know, there was so
much talk about all that he has to have a
huge playoffs to validate his previous two MVPs and then
as soon as he gets the player and he's been look,
the two best players in the playoffs have been Jokic

(32:04):
and Jimmy Butlers, and their teams are in the finals.
So you know, if the pressure has bothered him this postseason,
you know, show me, show me where, because you can't tell.
But yeah, the podcast kind of does, you know, Calvin
Booth does take us inside just kind of what this
ride has been like this season for the Nuggets to
be a team that was questioned, be a team that

(32:26):
got very little national publicity. You know, you always hear
Michael Malone at the podium seeking more respect for his guys.
But you know what, none of that matters. They're in
the finals and no matter what Jokic said today, they
are the favorite to win this series. They are the
favorite in these finals and have a tremendous opportunity to
win the first NBA championship in the team's history.

Speaker 3 (32:50):
Yeah, I do think Michael Malone does maybe needs a
lineup of hugs or something along the way to make
him understand with great power and a number one seed
trying to bring the number eight seed and say, hey, hey,
you know, this is not a big deal for us.
I don't think anybody's buying that. But from the national side,

(33:10):
you mentioned, you know, the lack of respect. I know,
at some point I saw a Denver writer he goes,
here's twenty five things that are interesting about the Nuggets.
You might not have known to try to give a
bunch of starters for national content. Where do we take
it from here as we get ready for Game one?

Speaker 5 (33:29):
Well, look, you know, there are so many questions about
how they you know, first of all, obviously the gas tank.
I mean, I hope you guys have said red versus
Rust at least three or four times on this show already. Nice,
you know, so we're gonna have you know, we're gonna
have to gauge how how the turnaround, how the short
turnaround affects Miami, how the altitude affects Miami. But you know,

(33:51):
the two real issues they have in this series is,
you know, beyond Bam out of Bio, how do they
match up with Yokis is not a big team. They
don't have really any other options that are going to
concern Yoki. And then scoring. Now, during the regular scoring.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
Has not been an issue for the Heat.

Speaker 5 (34:08):
In the playoffs, they've shot the ball incredibly well. But
this is the lowest scoring team in the regular season, So,
you know, But saying all that, like when I had
to make my pick at minimum, I have so much
respect for Miami that I can't see this being shorter

(34:29):
than a six game series, because again, I just Miami.
We you know, we doubt them, We've doubted them in
every round, and they just can Although I picked them
to pick to be Boston, so I got that one right.
But they are so good at what they do. They
have such a clear vision of what they're trying to do.
They are the most connected team in the league. And

(34:52):
they can make the game ugly. They can make the
game metsy, and those are two pretty good counters for altitude.

Speaker 1 (34:58):
He's on Twitter at the Starinline, that is, at the Steinline.
Check out this League uncut link to the podcast right
there on Mark Stein's Twitter page, and Mark, good luck
wherever you're going. If it's to New York to get
Joel Embiid to the Knicks, that's fine. I understand you
have to say anything about it. I get it, and
I we'll just wait for the story. That's fine.

Speaker 3 (35:15):
I'll go from you, honest to Embiid.

Speaker 5 (35:17):
All will be revealed. All will be revealed in two times.

Speaker 3 (35:21):
Exciting, have fun, buddy, We'll talk to you soon.

Speaker 5 (35:24):
All right, guys,
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