June 6, 2023 • 36 mins
Arnie Spanier and Aaron Torres debate if LeBron James would really leave Los Angeles to go play in Dallas with Kyrie Irving. And longtime NFL Insider Jason La Canfora swings by for all the biggest storylines from around the league.
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Speaker 3 (00:29):
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Speaker 3 (00:47):
Tire buying should be. He's Aaron Torres.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
I'm Marny Span You're in for the guys Jason Smith
at his best friend Mike Carmon. Tonight, Torres, I'm doing well, Arnie.
Speaker 5 (01:01):
I gotta say so two things. One, your burner count
was still harassing me throughout the day about how mean
I am to you, and.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
You got me in big trouble yesterday. I'll get to
that in a second.
Speaker 5 (01:12):
Well, all I will say is no more mister nice guy.
I don't I was too nice to you last night,
so that's fun. And speaking of being too nice, we
gotta get you a puppy or a part time job.
You started putting together this rundown at about six oh
eight Eastern time threeh eight Pacific. This point, you were
(01:34):
sending me articles more than once, like not even good articles.
It was like, oh, uh, the Dolphins receiver room. Like,
I know it's June, we're between finals games. I don't
know that I needed two separate texts about the same
article on the Dolphins receiver room here on June fifth.
I know it's a big topic in your world, but.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
I did have like, what like two hundred topics playing
for tonight's show when we only have sixteen segments, right,
is that we're gonna get to.
Speaker 5 (02:02):
Three of them. We'll talk to the NBA Finals, probably
a lot and a lot of Kyrie and Lebron and
that's basically probably gonna be most not.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
Yeah, but I always like to overprepare that, and that's
the type of guy I am. By the way, though
you got me in big, big trouble yesterday with your shenanigans,
I want you to know that I want to hold it.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Do that.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
Well, you admitted it right off the bat as we
started the show, as you were being mean to me,
right about my honesty, but about my age, and you
know busted my chops yesterday.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
What do you think happened to me today?
Speaker 5 (02:35):
You broke your hip?
Speaker 3 (02:36):
I got?
Speaker 5 (02:37):
Did you break your hip?
Speaker 4 (02:38):
No? I didn't break my hip, still got both of
Andy Furman just.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Got a new hip though. I want you to know that.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Okay, I just saw that. No, I I didn't break
my hip I got. I got an email from my
basketball league sending me the best they were obviously listening
to the show yesterday and send me the copy of
the rules.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Would you like to hear one paragraph of the rules?
Speaker 5 (02:57):
Not really, I literally like to hear anything else.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Because all players must be at least eighteen years of
age and under the age of sixty. I turned sixty
in April. I'm not under sixty, which you let the
whole world know. I think they're trying to throw me
out of the league now because I'm over fifty nine
years old.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
I may have to sue my league. Now.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
That's not quite fair, is it? Or what I think
it's perfectly fair?
Speaker 5 (03:22):
You know, back in the day, they used to like
coaches like it was in like state law that, like,
you know, these prominent coaches would have to retire at
a certain age. I remember Will Chamberlain part of the
reason left Kansas. The coach that recruited them there was
forced into retirement. So maybe they're trying to force you
into retirement in the Vermont YMCA. I don't know why
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we don't do the same here at Foxport.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
They can think, I well, thank you right, they could
do it. They're trying to throw me out of the league.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
I get the feeling just because I hit sixty, I'm
still better than half the guys in that damn league.
Speaker 5 (03:53):
And it's an eighteen and over league.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
It's an eighteen and over league.
Speaker 5 (03:57):
I bet you're probably not better than most of.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Them, a few of them at least.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
Yeah, Like, you don't have to throw me out of
the damn league for crying out loud.
Speaker 5 (04:06):
I don't have to consider it. No, I mean, your
a liability at this point is really wow.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
I can still should I had eight points last week?
Speaker 5 (04:14):
How many games a six over six game stretch? No
one game I hit three's one of those were like
it at the end, like you know they they they
let the last guy, like you know, the man it was.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
The second half, yes, okay, one leg and.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
Everybody stops the game and they clapform and people are
crying at the end because, oh my god, the manager
with one leg got in. Is that like the exact
same thing that happens to you?
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Are so mean? You're so mean.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
I get you, I would see. This is why I'm
not allowed in LA to be in the same room
as you. I'm not allowed to be in the same
room as any other host because I'm very violent. So
that's one of the I'm not allowed to be on
during the day.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
I'm not allowed your hip. I think I can just
move out of the way.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
No, I didn't break my hand, They not would, okay,
knock wood. I just wanted to know if I get
thrown out of this league, it's because of you for
crying out loud, for you, you know, riding me out
about my age.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
You read it yourself out. All I said was you're
old and that your wife shovels for you. That's all
I've ever said. I just if you chose, if you
chose to acknowledge them by the way I know a guy,
we can get your fake ID. I mean you really,
I mean honestly, you don't look a day over sixty eight,
so you can make fifty eight.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
I could go ahead and do that. Yeah, I never
AARP for sure. All right, Look, we got a lot
to get to. It is a busy show. I didn't
even know where to really start with so many topics
to get to. Uh, we got the four hour Bonanza,
we got the Power Hour, the Bonus Hour. You want
to be part of the show, certainly want to get
your feedback. You could send this tweets real simple air
(05:45):
and underscore Torres. I'm instinking genius one as we sit
in for the guys today. You know, I was gonna
start with Game two, kind of set the mood with
the Miami Denver game obviously Game three coming up on Wednesday.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
But then of course I saw that.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
I guess a story that broke sham Sharania, and there
was another guy that put out also I'll get it
to you in just a second, where they were talking
about Kyrie Irving supposedly reaching out to Lebron saying, hey,
why don't we go ahead and team up up here
in Dallas and put a Big three together with Luca
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and go for a championship. Now, I was listening and
reading Twitter all day long about this stuff.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Oh and I sent you a bunch on this.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
Listening to Coveno and Rich, they're saying that this was
just gossip, but they obviously talked about it. Listening to
the odd Couple, They're like, no, this can't happen, and
you know then, you know it doesn't work out financially
and Lebron would have to take a big pay cut
or something like that. The only reason they said that
is because somebody else reported that. Let me tell you,
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each team has like two financial guys just to go
over the salary caps.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
So unless there's a capologist actually does a show.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
Here, there's many different things you can do to maneuver
and get on the same page with this, Aaron, I
just tell you this. I think there is a ring
of truth to this. Matter of fact. If I'm Lebron,
there's only two things I really want to go to Dallas. Obviously,
I want to play with Kyrie and I want to
play with Luke.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
I want to win a championship.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
And the other thing is if you can guarantee me
that after this year, you'll draft my son and we
can go play in Dallas.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Oh, by the way, look who the owner is.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Shenantigan's is his middle name for crying out loud. So
if you could promise me that I may consider going
to Dallas and doing this thing out because I don't
know if the Lakers are gonna make me that promise. Now,
am I totally nuts for thinking something like this? Or
what you tell me?
Speaker 5 (07:50):
I would say, so, I don't think you're well, I
sort of think you're nuts, I mean to me, So
we all know. Kyrie, listen, let's just you know, let's
just put some puzzle piece together.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Here.
Speaker 5 (08:01):
Kyrie was at Game four of the Western Conference Finals
in La at Staple Center.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Right.
Speaker 5 (08:06):
Kyrie was recently at a WNBA game at Staple Center.
And I'm sorry it's actually Crypto dot Com arena, but
I'll cry Staple. Don't you just think this is maybe
Kyrie and Lebron in conjunction one letting the world know
that they want to play together. I took it as
this is Lebron and Kyrie in conjunction letting the Lakers know. Hey,
(08:30):
Lebron isn't happy. I know he's under contract, so he
doesn't really have other options. But as you said, there's
always a way to finagle stuff.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Yes, there is. I agree there.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
I certainly think they want to play together. I don't
think it's going to be in Dallas.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
But I completely agree with you on there. I do
think they want to play together.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
Yes, I don't think it's going to be in Dallas.
I think they're trying to put the screws to the
Lakers to say, hey, go get KYRIEU because if not,
we'll figure out a way to play somewhere else together.
That seem reasonable to you.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
That's another theory, it's another way of looking at it.
I think there's more of a possibility of Lebron going
to Dallas than Kyrie going to Los Angeles. I don't
think Kyrie actually wants to go to Los Angeles. And
I really think this has to do with Lebron getting
his chance to get his son drafted and playing with
You say.
Speaker 5 (09:20):
You think it's more likely that Kyrie is going to
go to Los Angeles. No, No, Lebron is going to
go to Dallas than Kyrie is going to go to
Los Angeles.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
I think it's more likely that well, I know it's
more likely Lebron would probably want to go to Dallas
more so than Kyrie would want to go to Los Angeles.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
Yes, please give me that explanation, and I'm being sarcastic.
Give me the explanation.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
No.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
I well, a couple of things on that.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
I don't think Kyrie wants to go ahead and deal
with the ownership in the GM.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
And all that with what's going on in Los Angeles.
Speaker 5 (09:48):
But he was desperate to get traded there six months ago,
but now he wants nothing to do with him.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
Well, because I think he actually wants to stay in Dallas,
and that's why he wants to get Lebron there. I
think Lebron would go there, like I said, because of
the his son, Brony. I think that's the most important thing.
I'm sure he wants to win a championship, but there's
no guarantees on that.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Aaron.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
And if you could tell Lebron right now, if I
told you this behind closed doors, that Dallas said we
will take your son in the first or second round.
We'll make sure that we draft him and that you'll
be able to play with him, what do you think
Lebron would say to that, right now would you think
Lebron would go to Dallas or no?
Speaker 5 (10:24):
Well, first of all, Lebron is going to be a
free agent next year, so in theory, he's supposed to
be going wherever wherever his son gets drafted. So I
don't think that's a factor at all.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
Well, I mean, there's no guarantee that wherever he goes
they're gonna be able to bring Lebron with him. But
I understand what you're saying there, but this is a
way for him to go ahead and get it done
right now, and go ahead, Do you get his son?
Speaker 5 (10:44):
How do you get First of all, it's a dual
non guarantee. How does Dallas get the gart How does
Lebron get the guarantee that they're gonna draft his son?
And Dallas can't guarantee that Lebron is gonna stay there.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
Well, we mean that, Well, you get him for two years,
just say, look, I'm gonna give you two years of
my time.
Speaker 5 (11:02):
Contract.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
Well you could go ahead and sign an extension, though,
is my thing, So you don't just because you have
one year you're talking about with Los Angeles or with Dallas.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
There are more holes in this argument than she.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
No, you gotta be you gotta be confused.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
If he goes to Dallas, you could say, I'm wont
gonna sign for the one year and then I'll sign
an extension after that.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
What's what? Why is there a problem with that or what?
Speaker 5 (11:21):
I don't think there's a problem. I just I think
that if Lebron, like, how do I say this? I mean,
Lebron can promise to sign an extension, but he can't
sign a physical piece of paper until the end of
next season, and Dallas can verbally agree that they're gonna
that they're gonna draft Lebron James Junior. By the way,
let me throw another wrinkle in your your half baked
(11:42):
sure that it's Dallas and not La, which makes no
sense at all. Okay, what if Dallas has the seventeenth
pick in the Utah Jazz draft Lebron James Junior, Bronni
James at number eleven. Then the whole theory of yours
just gets blown to smitherings because Lebron's gonna go wherever
Bronny goes.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
I don't think any well, that's another part of this.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
I don't think anybody's going to draft Bronny unless they
know that there's a whole thing with it that Lebron
comes with a package deal. And you know what I'm
saying here, nobody's just gonna say, you know, let's just take.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Bronny and you know, work on him for the next
five years or something.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
To ask you, you're mister Laker. I mean, the Los
Angeles Lakers are Arnie Spaniards Los Angeles Lakers. I'm a
little confused as to why you're poo pooing the conversation
that Kyrie, who has been in LA for the last
month because we keep seeing him at Crypto dot com arena,
has zero interest in coming to LA when we know
six months ago he wanted to. That makes no sense
(12:38):
at all.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
But because well, I think, and the worst some rumors
about this, I don't think the Lakers really want to
go and extend Anthony Davis.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
I think they're done with AD. I think they're done.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
I think Lebron is actually done with AD. To be
honest with you, yes, he played okay down the stretch
and he was there, but he has saw sometimes and
he does go through a lot of injury. I think
Lebron has done with that. I think the Lakers are
actually done with that. And if if the Lakers right
now could say we don't what a D and we
could give up on the last years of his contract,
I think they would do that in a heartbeat. I
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think they want to move on from him, and I
don't think they want to extend this contract.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
So they're gonna give up on A D and Lebron
and they're gonna go into next year with is their
best player?
Speaker 4 (13:20):
No, But eventually you're gonna have to go out and
without those guys anyway, aren't you.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
I mean, how many more years do they have left? Ad?
Speaker 4 (13:26):
It doesn't f a A D doesn't have a full
year left in his body?
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Do you you know that right?
Speaker 5 (13:31):
I do agree with that.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
I mean that that's that's a guarantee, but.
Speaker 5 (13:35):
There are a lot of good players in the NBA
that don't have a full season left on their body.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
But that's true too. And how many how many more
years do you think lebron has left? I'm kind of
curious on that that you bring that up.
Speaker 5 (13:45):
I mean, minimum two, because he's gonna play wherever Bronny plays,
and I think it's probably closely what's.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
The most, what's the most you think he'll play the most.
Speaker 5 (13:55):
I still think he could play five. I don't. I
don't know that he will, right, but I think he can.
I mean, I think thirty something points in the first
half of a Western Conference Finals game. He scored forty
points in a in a winner go home Western Conference
Finals game this year at thirty eight. So depending on
what role he wants to take, depending on how committed
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he is to playing with Brownie, he could go on
for a couple more years. I think there's more layers
to this. We can we can continue the conversation. I
know we got a you know what we got.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
As matter of fact, we got Jason locking for a
covered up. Next, we got a lot of football to
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(14:46):
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Speaker 4 (15:04):
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Speaker 3 (15:09):
He's Aaron Torres.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
I'm already spanier in for the guys, Jason Smith at
his best friend Mike Harmon. Torres, we still are not
done with this. I'm I'm I have to attack you
in so many different ways it's not even funny. But
first let's get to our guest joining us now can
check about on honesty. Washington post edfilm Sider friend of
(15:31):
the show. It's Jason locking.
Speaker 6 (15:34):
For a You know what, Jason, what's going on? Gentlemen?
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Well, there it is.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
We're just battling and it's only one segment in right
off the bat. What did you make of this gambling story?
I mean, how many times are we going to see this?
They don't know the rules or they know the rules
and they just don't care. With Isaiah Rodgers, what's going on?
Speaker 6 (15:56):
Well, I mean, obviously we've reached a new sort of
age and the mainstreaming of sports gambling and Obviously, there
still are rules that apply to those within the confines
of the field of play that that don't apply to others.
(16:18):
Certainly don't apply to owners, right who make tens of
millions of dollars. I mean that's conservative on uh gambling
worthy official sports better of the Dallas Cowboys and blah
blah blah, Right, like it doesn't apply to them. But
somebody fires off a parlay on you know, college basketball
or whatever, and let you know, oh my god. But yeah,
(16:41):
it is a brave new world. And there has to
be ongoing and continued education from the teams themselves. Right,
every team has a former player who's there, you know,
any sort of director of players, servants services, or you know,
there's somebody in that role to sort of be that
(17:02):
liaison between the team and the league and those individuals.
And yes, these things are posted all over locker rooms,
and yes it's talked about every year at training camp
and certainly when guys come into the league and the
rookie symposiums and all that. But obviously there needs to
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be continued education and continued passing on of what's acceptable
and what's not. And the reality is, if you want
to play in the NFL and you want to play
without big brother looking over your shoulder. You should probably
not have any apps on your vote at this point,
(17:46):
because it's clear that these betting institutions are working with
the league that everybody's sort of no one wants to
have anything smelling fishy. They're all working together to try
to police this. So you know, if you think having
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a burner or this or that it's going to get
you around it, it's it's probably not. I mean, between
the NFL and the various entities that have gambling, you know,
the ability to wager, and the ability to wager in
multiple states, and the ability to wager on your phone, like,
they're going to be diligent about not allowing anything to
(18:29):
go on that looks like it's not above board because
that then will potentially compromise their ability to keep making money.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
Hand over fist, Jason, let's get to you know, more
on the field sort of ish type stuff. I mean,
obviously there's nothing really to break down at this point,
but well, I was gonna say so, I was curious
just your take on the you know, the summer of
Aaron Rodgers in New York. Go ahead, I mean, the
floor is heres because it seems like you do you
already know where I'm going with this.
Speaker 6 (19:00):
I'm already worn out, you know, like I just like
it's the relitigation of grievances and the reairing of grievances.
And what goody when goody did respond to my text
or didn't respond to my text? And how much I
may or may not have ran over Matt Lafleur, and
how much I am about to run over Nathaniel Hackett,
who's just a useful idiot who you know, I will
(19:25):
use subterfuge and sleight of hand or just plain willpower
to newter like this, just nothing about this feels right,
smells right, will be right. I mean, it's the New
York freaking Jets. What do they get right? And what
do they ever get right? You know? On the magnitude
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and the scale of this sort of transaction. I mean,
the fact that nobody else was sniffing around on this, dude,
you know, like that that should have been a major
red flag. The fact that other organizations, if you talk
to their football people, and I talked to a lot
of them, looked at Aaron Rodgers not as a football trader.
(20:07):
Transaction but as a salary dumb like they look at
the packers and said, my god, can you imagine if
they had to play out twenty twenty three, paying this
guy sixty million dollars to go away or sixty million
dollars to back up Jordan Love, how ugly would that be?
And Woody Johnson said, oh, no, I'll pay. I'll take
the like Arnold Horsak.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
No, no, over here, over here, we're here.
Speaker 6 (20:30):
We'll pay that problem. We'll pay all that money, and
we still have a restructure the contract, and we'll put
up with all the pablo that he spews out to
McAfee every week right or to his buddies in the
media back in Green Bay, you know, once a month,
or eventually to the local media on a daily basis, Like,
and he's not even good anymore. Like, I mean, I
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don't know if people not watch this guy play the
last and it wasn't really last year. I think you
can go back to about week third team the year
before and then through that playoffs, and I don't see it,
Like he's not getting better. He's forty years old. Now,
he's in New York. He's out of his comfort zone.
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He's out of that cocoon that is Green Bay. He's
in the much tougher conference. He's in the much tougher division. Like,
I don't know about the offensive line really much at all.
I think it's a recipe for disaster, and I think
it will be a beautiful disaster. And he was in
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Green Bay forever and couldn't bite his tongue. What does
he owe the Jets? You know what I mean? What
are the Jets to him? What is he to the Jets?
It can't possibly be his problem, like when they're three
and four. It's not me. Like even if I have
an eighty seven passer rating and all I want to
do is hand the ball off to Bristol, it can't
possibly be me. I'm Aaron fan Rodgers. You guys have
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never won. I'm back to back end. He's in my
late thirties, and I've got, you know, a Lombardy like.
It's it's not me, it's always you. Good luck, good luck,
good luck, good luck.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
You know, Jason, I ad my Sunday show. I do
a countdown how many days left until the Dolphins win
the Super Bowl? If they get Dolphin cook, I mean,
forget about it, man, They'll have the use this. I mean,
what a great weapons to have with Tua. That's going
to be unbelievable.
Speaker 6 (22:26):
Yeah, I mean I think you look at him in
that Shanahan run scheme and you'd say, man, that's a
home run hitter. My problem there, though, is just you know,
is to his availability. And I applaud him for everything
he's doing, you know, jiu jitsu and kung fu and
all these different ways to try to protect himself and
make himself stronger and learn how to fall and this
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or that. But the you know, the terribly unfortunate thing
for to a tongue of ala is he has a
predilection towards brain bruises, and he's had multiple brain bruises
and he's had them in rapid success in a short
period of time. And I wish him all the best,
But like there's an obvious reason that they're not talking
(23:13):
about extensions with him, you know, and they're kind of
saying all the right things publicly but privately obviously sort
of hedging their bets. And everybody should be rooting for him,
and I certainly am, but I don't know how you
can make a declarative statement that two is someone who's
going to be able to get through a long, arduous
(23:36):
NFL season and come out the other side of it
and be among the best of the best come playoff time.
And that's where you're right. And now we're talking about
January football for the Dolphins, not September.
Speaker 5 (23:50):
Yeah, Jason, I need to cut you off there. I
was going to ask just in general as we look
ahead to next season, like I find San Francisco is
so fascinating. Yeah, you probably know where I'm going with this,
but maybe you have some update on brock Party that
is not available. But brock Perty's elbow. Trey Lance feels
(24:12):
like he's falling behind yees. Sam Darnold is on strike
number three here and everything else is a Super Bowl
championship roster, So what do you make of the situation
out there?
Speaker 6 (24:24):
Like I think there might be some money to be
like made on somebody like Christian McCaffrey as the offensive
player of the year if you want to look at
some futures, because I don't buy their quarterback situation whatsoever,
but I do buy the rest of their roster. And
we know they're in the NFC, which is incredibly watered down.
(24:44):
So you're not facing the gauntlet you would face in
the AFC. And as much as people want to label
Kyle Shanahan, you know, a quarterback guru, I'd say, well,
there's been way more, you know, missus than hits. And
I can remember when you know, they were trying to
sell you know, any and everybody at quarterback in Washington
(25:09):
and you know Beck and people like that, and it's like,
what are we talking about here? And you know Bethard, right,
I mean, they drafted Bethard and it's like, oh, he's
going to have a career. So he struck out quite
a bit in that regard. But what they don't strike
out on is that run game, right, that outside zone
(25:31):
Alex Gibbs run game that's been going on since Kyle's
daddy was a coordinator like that, that's pretty legit. And
with that kind of defense, they can just play ball
control and you know, try to beat you twenty one, fourteen,
seventeen ten every week. And that's where I think they're
going to be because I think we're going to get
(25:53):
into this season and I'm not going to trust either
quarterback and people want to anoint Rock Purdy for playing
you know, I don't know twelve quarters of football in
ideal situations, but I don't really know what he is.
And I know that Trey Lance hasn't played football on
a regular basis consistently since he was in high school. Yeah,
(26:13):
it's just a fact since he was in high school.
So how does that translate? So I think they're going
to be incredibly conservative. I think they are going to
want to run the ball down people's throats. And they
have a subsidy. They're in the NFC. They don't have
to face what you know, people like Tua have to face.
(26:34):
But no, I'm not buying anything they're selling at the
quarterback position right now.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
By the way, in my high school yearbook, I was
voted I looked most like Arnold Horshack.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
I want you to know that.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
No, I'm not kidding. That's not a job. That's the God.
God is truth. I want you to know all that.
Speaker 6 (26:52):
Vinnie Barbarino would have been probably preferential, but you know,
we all can't beat Travolta. I would have been.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
I love it. Jason, always a pleasure, my friend. We
appreciate it. We'll take care Jason looking for everybody.
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Uh.
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We'll get into that first theory is bogus on the story?
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Speaker 4 (28:35):
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Speaker 2 (28:52):
One.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
I want to read a couple of them. Let me
read one.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
Greg says typical Ernie Bunkers, spitting out nonsense. Lebron isn't
la under any circumstance, and Laker management have no interest
in Kyrie. They're smartly going to re sign Reeves, Hachimura
and shrewder and that's the way it's going to be. Aaron,
you you're the same way of the way. Greg feels
it's you don't believe the report either. Nonsense on the report.
Speaker 5 (29:18):
I believe there's a report that I believe that Kyrie
and Lebron are angling to play together. I just don't
believe it's in Dallas. So let me ask a question.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
What is Sham's responsibility as an insider? Is he like,
if you got if you're an insider, do you are
you not supposed to put this out because you go,
it's never gonna happen. Lebron's never gonna retire, So I
can't put this out.
Speaker 5 (29:41):
It's so funny you say that. I I literally gave
this exact monologue on my Saturday show, as I said,
I respect what these guys do. Yeah, but I I
enjoy being in the opinion space more than the I
have to keep my sources happy space because the n
of the quote unquote Lebron retirement, where it was like,
(30:04):
did Lebron just say he was gonna retire and then
immediately out of nowhere, Chris Haynes has an article. And
I respect Chris Haynes. He's really good at what he does.
Oh my god, Lebron might retire and then Lebron just
so happened to run into Dave McManaman coming out of
Staples Center. Oh, Lebron might really be and it's like
anyone with a brain knows he's not retiring. And I
(30:24):
feel bad for these guys because they got to put
out nonsense that that was absolutely not true.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
Well, one, they have to put it's not up to
them to decide whether somebody's going to retire or not,
or if it's true, or if they're being fed information.
They've got to put it out right, you understand that that.
And two, it's the same thing with you though for
us when we do a talk show, right, you get in,
(30:48):
you get a story, and then we debate it whether
you believe.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
It or not.
Speaker 5 (30:52):
That's what say. We don't have to we don't have
to put it out as fact. We kind of more
contextualize it. I think, well, true, I under Chris Haynes
and Dave McManamon and all them put that out.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
Well, they're not I'm saying it's fact that they're gonna
play together in Dallas or anything like that.
Speaker 5 (31:07):
No, but I'm talking about the Lebron retirement. Oh you
know Lebron is seriously considering. No, he's not stop, he's
not stop. And you can go down a million of
the year.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
But if you were doing an interview with Lebron and
you said, hey, Lebron, how do you feel after that
last game? But he said, you know what, ered I
feel like I might retire. What are you gonna say, No,
you're not. You'd say, really, you would? You wouldn't challenge
him or anything like that. You go, come on, Lebron,
you ain't gonna retire.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
You You go, really, Lebron, or you're serious? You wouldn't
challenge about that.
Speaker 5 (31:35):
That depends on the setting. I mean, if I was
at that press conference, I would I would have said,
cause you know, I don't think anybody actually actually straight
up asked him. I mean, you can go back to
the like Chris Haynes put out an article a half
an hour after the game went final. It was clearly orchestrated,
it was already written. It was just time to hit send.
(31:56):
So and by the way, I will say, I think
that that piece of news perfectly plays into today's piece
of news. And I want to ask you a question
I meant to ask you this last night. I'm of
the belief I don't think the Lakers need to make
fundamental changes, like like I know everyone is, you know,
Lebron every year he doesn't win a championship. It's oh
my god, the sky is falling when I look at
(32:18):
at the Lakers this year. They had the best record
after the All Star break. They destroyed the reigning champions,
and they ran into a really good Denver team, and
really three of those four games they could have won
in the fourth quarter, and it went the other way.
I don't know how all of the salary cap works
with Austin Reeves and what's round this. I think you
can look if you largely run that team back and
(32:42):
have most of that team for the entire one.
Speaker 4 (32:45):
More person, don't you need a Jordan Poole. Don't you
need like a Jalen Brown. I don't know, you probably
have to give up too much for Jalen Brown. But
don't you need that one more person?
Speaker 5 (32:53):
Or what I mean? They didn't need them this year? Right?
Speaker 3 (32:57):
They started pretty crappy if I remember.
Speaker 5 (32:59):
Correct, after the All Star break. They have the best
record in the NBA after the All Star break.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
I mean, still though, you.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
Still though there has to be better than being the
best team in the NBA.
Speaker 5 (33:13):
Okay, that's good to know. No, listen, I don't think.
I don't think running it back makes them the definitive
best team in the league. That's not what I'm saying
at all. And I do think they have holes, like
everybody has holes. But I think normally when a team
gets swept in the conference finals or in any playoff series,
it makes you reevaluate a lot of things. This team,
(33:34):
I just think a couple things won. They were thrown
together at the last minute. Basically, they had to play
playoff type games for the last six eight weeks of
the season in the lead up to the playoffs. I
think you bring back this team largely together, you get
off to a little bit of a better start, there's
no Russell Westbrook, and you get a better seed. You
don't have to worry about playing yourself into the playoffs
(33:57):
in March and April. I just think I really liked
what I saw from this Lakers team. And I'm not
a Lakers guy, like I'll be critical, but they were
the best team in the NBA after the All Star
break with the core they had again beat the second
seed Memphis Grizzlies. Who we know next year they're not
gonna be the second seed.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
I know we're shut out of time, but who's a
better team the Lakers Lebron a d and signing all
those guys, like you said, or Dallas with Kyrie, Luca
and Lebron team.
Speaker 5 (34:28):
Well, here's the problem. You don't know basketball, and so
you know what I'm.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
Luca has to be gone. Is that what you're gonna
tell the.
Speaker 5 (34:33):
No, No, no, it's not that. It's that we kind
of saw what a team with three superstars and absolutely
no bench looks like. So even under the scenario where
you can get Lebron, right he's not a free agent,
you would, in theory, have to give up something. To
the point, our producer, Justin Frossburg made the only thing
that the Lakers would be interested in is Luka Dacic, Right.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
I understand that, But let's play.
Speaker 5 (34:54):
Let's play some fun hypothetical game where there's draft picks
and bench players that the Lakers would be interested in.
I just saw that with the Suns, an older veteran team.
Sure without a bench, there's a ceiling to what they
can do. So so I would say the Lakers, as
currently constituted, I would rather run that back and try
it than go then figure out some wacky trade to
(35:18):
Dallas to play with Kyrie and Luka Doncic, Well.
Speaker 4 (35:21):
I'm just wondering how that all started. Did you know,
is Kyrie just dowing it up in the air. Did
he get a hold of Lebron first? And stuff like that.
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Speaker 4 (35:45):
I want to get a little bit into what's going
on in the NFL with the gambling situation, Torres, I mean,
how many times is this going to happen?
Speaker 5 (35:53):
Fair question it?
Speaker 4 (35:54):
Well, it seems like we get a story like once
every couple of weeks on this, So we'll get into that.
We'll get more in the game too of the NBA Finals.
Who's gonna take Game three and four? We'll touch on
that a little bit. Torres and Spaniard for Smith and
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Speaker 5 (01:01):
I gotta say so two things. One, your burner count
was still harassing me throughout the day about how mean
I am to you, and.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
You got me in big trouble yesterday. I'll get to
that in a second.
Speaker 5 (01:12):
Well, all I will say is no more mister nice guy.
I don't I was too nice to you last night,
so that's fun. And speaking of being too nice, we
gotta get you a puppy or a part time job.
You started putting together this rundown at about six oh
eight Eastern time threeh eight Pacific. This point, you were
(01:34):
sending me articles more than once, like not even good articles.
It was like, oh, uh, the Dolphins receiver room. Like,
I know it's June, we're between finals games. I don't
know that I needed two separate texts about the same
article on the Dolphins receiver room here on June fifth.
I know it's a big topic in your world, but.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
I did have like, what like two hundred topics playing
for tonight's show when we only have sixteen segments, right,
is that we're gonna get to.
Speaker 5 (02:02):
Three of them. We'll talk to the NBA Finals, probably
a lot and a lot of Kyrie and Lebron and
that's basically probably gonna be most not.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
Yeah, but I always like to overprepare that, and that's
the type of guy I am. By the way, though
you got me in big, big trouble yesterday with your shenanigans,
I want you to know that I want to hold it.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Do that.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
Well, you admitted it right off the bat as we
started the show, as you were being mean to me,
right about my honesty, but about my age, and you
know busted my chops yesterday.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
What do you think happened to me today?
Speaker 5 (02:35):
You broke your hip?
Speaker 3 (02:36):
I got?
Speaker 5 (02:37):
Did you break your hip?
Speaker 4 (02:38):
No? I didn't break my hip, still got both of
Andy Furman just.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Got a new hip though. I want you to know that.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Okay, I just saw that. No, I I didn't break
my hip I got. I got an email from my
basketball league sending me the best they were obviously listening
to the show yesterday and send me the copy of
the rules.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Would you like to hear one paragraph of the rules?
Speaker 5 (02:57):
Not really, I literally like to hear anything else.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Because all players must be at least eighteen years of
age and under the age of sixty. I turned sixty
in April. I'm not under sixty, which you let the
whole world know. I think they're trying to throw me
out of the league now because I'm over fifty nine
years old.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
I may have to sue my league. Now.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
That's not quite fair, is it? Or what I think
it's perfectly fair?
Speaker 5 (03:22):
You know, back in the day, they used to like
coaches like it was in like state law that, like,
you know, these prominent coaches would have to retire at
a certain age. I remember Will Chamberlain part of the
reason left Kansas. The coach that recruited them there was
forced into retirement. So maybe they're trying to force you
into retirement in the Vermont YMCA. I don't know why
(03:44):
we don't do the same here at Foxport.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
They can think, I well, thank you right, they could
do it. They're trying to throw me out of the league.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
I get the feeling just because I hit sixty, I'm
still better than half the guys in that damn league.
Speaker 5 (03:53):
And it's an eighteen and over league.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
It's an eighteen and over league.
Speaker 5 (03:57):
I bet you're probably not better than most of.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Them, a few of them at least.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
Yeah, Like, you don't have to throw me out of
the damn league for crying out loud.
Speaker 5 (04:06):
I don't have to consider it. No, I mean, your
a liability at this point is really wow.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
I can still should I had eight points last week?
Speaker 5 (04:14):
How many games a six over six game stretch? No
one game I hit three's one of those were like
it at the end, like you know they they they
let the last guy, like you know, the man it was.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
The second half, yes, okay, one leg and.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
Everybody stops the game and they clapform and people are
crying at the end because, oh my god, the manager
with one leg got in. Is that like the exact
same thing that happens to you?
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Are so mean? You're so mean.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
I get you, I would see. This is why I'm
not allowed in LA to be in the same room
as you. I'm not allowed to be in the same
room as any other host because I'm very violent. So
that's one of the I'm not allowed to be on
during the day.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
I'm not allowed your hip. I think I can just
move out of the way.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
No, I didn't break my hand, They not would, okay,
knock wood. I just wanted to know if I get
thrown out of this league, it's because of you for
crying out loud, for you, you know, riding me out
about my age.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
You read it yourself out. All I said was you're
old and that your wife shovels for you. That's all
I've ever said. I just if you chose, if you
chose to acknowledge them by the way I know a guy,
we can get your fake ID. I mean you really,
I mean honestly, you don't look a day over sixty eight,
so you can make fifty eight.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
I could go ahead and do that. Yeah, I never
AARP for sure. All right, Look, we got a lot
to get to. It is a busy show. I didn't
even know where to really start with so many topics
to get to. Uh, we got the four hour Bonanza,
we got the Power Hour, the Bonus Hour. You want
to be part of the show, certainly want to get
your feedback. You could send this tweets real simple air
(05:45):
and underscore Torres. I'm instinking genius one as we sit
in for the guys today. You know, I was gonna
start with Game two, kind of set the mood with
the Miami Denver game obviously Game three coming up on Wednesday.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
But then of course I saw that.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
I guess a story that broke sham Sharania, and there
was another guy that put out also I'll get it
to you in just a second, where they were talking
about Kyrie Irving supposedly reaching out to Lebron saying, hey,
why don't we go ahead and team up up here
in Dallas and put a Big three together with Luca
(06:22):
and go for a championship. Now, I was listening and
reading Twitter all day long about this stuff.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Oh and I sent you a bunch on this.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
Listening to Coveno and Rich, they're saying that this was
just gossip, but they obviously talked about it. Listening to
the odd Couple, They're like, no, this can't happen, and
you know then, you know it doesn't work out financially
and Lebron would have to take a big pay cut
or something like that. The only reason they said that
is because somebody else reported that. Let me tell you,
(06:53):
each team has like two financial guys just to go
over the salary caps.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
So unless there's a capologist actually does a show.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
Here, there's many different things you can do to maneuver
and get on the same page with this, Aaron, I
just tell you this. I think there is a ring
of truth to this. Matter of fact. If I'm Lebron,
there's only two things I really want to go to Dallas. Obviously,
I want to play with Kyrie and I want to
play with Luke.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
I want to win a championship.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
And the other thing is if you can guarantee me
that after this year, you'll draft my son and we
can go play in Dallas.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Oh, by the way, look who the owner is.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Shenantigan's is his middle name for crying out loud. So
if you could promise me that I may consider going
to Dallas and doing this thing out because I don't
know if the Lakers are gonna make me that promise. Now,
am I totally nuts for thinking something like this? Or
what you tell me?
Speaker 5 (07:50):
I would say, so, I don't think you're well, I
sort of think you're nuts, I mean to me, So
we all know. Kyrie, listen, let's just you know, let's
just put some puzzle piece together.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Here.
Speaker 5 (08:01):
Kyrie was at Game four of the Western Conference Finals
in La at Staple Center.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Right.
Speaker 5 (08:06):
Kyrie was recently at a WNBA game at Staple Center.
And I'm sorry it's actually Crypto dot Com arena, but
I'll cry Staple. Don't you just think this is maybe
Kyrie and Lebron in conjunction one letting the world know
that they want to play together. I took it as
this is Lebron and Kyrie in conjunction letting the Lakers know. Hey,
(08:30):
Lebron isn't happy. I know he's under contract, so he
doesn't really have other options. But as you said, there's
always a way to finagle stuff.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Yes, there is. I agree there.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
I certainly think they want to play together. I don't
think it's going to be in Dallas.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
But I completely agree with you on there. I do
think they want to play together.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
Yes, I don't think it's going to be in Dallas.
I think they're trying to put the screws to the
Lakers to say, hey, go get KYRIEU because if not,
we'll figure out a way to play somewhere else together.
That seem reasonable to you.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
That's another theory, it's another way of looking at it.
I think there's more of a possibility of Lebron going
to Dallas than Kyrie going to Los Angeles. I don't
think Kyrie actually wants to go to Los Angeles. And
I really think this has to do with Lebron getting
his chance to get his son drafted and playing with
You say.
Speaker 5 (09:20):
You think it's more likely that Kyrie is going to
go to Los Angeles. No, No, Lebron is going to
go to Dallas than Kyrie is going to go to
Los Angeles.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
I think it's more likely that well, I know it's
more likely Lebron would probably want to go to Dallas
more so than Kyrie would want to go to Los Angeles.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
Yes, please give me that explanation, and I'm being sarcastic.
Give me the explanation.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
No.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
I well, a couple of things on that.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
I don't think Kyrie wants to go ahead and deal
with the ownership in the GM.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
And all that with what's going on in Los Angeles.
Speaker 5 (09:48):
But he was desperate to get traded there six months ago,
but now he wants nothing to do with him.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
Well, because I think he actually wants to stay in Dallas,
and that's why he wants to get Lebron there. I
think Lebron would go there, like I said, because of
the his son, Brony. I think that's the most important thing.
I'm sure he wants to win a championship, but there's
no guarantees on that.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Aaron.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
And if you could tell Lebron right now, if I
told you this behind closed doors, that Dallas said we
will take your son in the first or second round.
We'll make sure that we draft him and that you'll
be able to play with him, what do you think
Lebron would say to that, right now would you think
Lebron would go to Dallas or no?
Speaker 5 (10:24):
Well, first of all, Lebron is going to be a
free agent next year, so in theory, he's supposed to
be going wherever wherever his son gets drafted. So I
don't think that's a factor at all.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
Well, I mean, there's no guarantee that wherever he goes
they're gonna be able to bring Lebron with him. But
I understand what you're saying there, but this is a
way for him to go ahead and get it done
right now, and go ahead, Do you get his son?
Speaker 5 (10:44):
How do you get First of all, it's a dual
non guarantee. How does Dallas get the gart How does
Lebron get the guarantee that they're gonna draft his son?
And Dallas can't guarantee that Lebron is gonna stay there.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
Well, we mean that, Well, you get him for two years,
just say, look, I'm gonna give you two years of
my time.
Speaker 5 (11:02):
Contract.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
Well you could go ahead and sign an extension, though,
is my thing, So you don't just because you have
one year you're talking about with Los Angeles or with Dallas.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
There are more holes in this argument than she.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
No, you gotta be you gotta be confused.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
If he goes to Dallas, you could say, I'm wont
gonna sign for the one year and then I'll sign
an extension after that.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
What's what? Why is there a problem with that or what?
Speaker 5 (11:21):
I don't think there's a problem. I just I think
that if Lebron, like, how do I say this? I mean,
Lebron can promise to sign an extension, but he can't
sign a physical piece of paper until the end of
next season, and Dallas can verbally agree that they're gonna
that they're gonna draft Lebron James Junior. By the way,
let me throw another wrinkle in your your half baked
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sure that it's Dallas and not La, which makes no
sense at all. Okay, what if Dallas has the seventeenth
pick in the Utah Jazz draft Lebron James Junior, Bronni
James at number eleven. Then the whole theory of yours
just gets blown to smitherings because Lebron's gonna go wherever
Bronny goes.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
I don't think any well, that's another part of this.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
I don't think anybody's going to draft Bronny unless they
know that there's a whole thing with it that Lebron
comes with a package deal. And you know what I'm
saying here, nobody's just gonna say, you know, let's just take.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Bronny and you know, work on him for the next
five years or something.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
To ask you, you're mister Laker. I mean, the Los
Angeles Lakers are Arnie Spaniards Los Angeles Lakers. I'm a
little confused as to why you're poo pooing the conversation
that Kyrie, who has been in LA for the last
month because we keep seeing him at Crypto dot com arena,
has zero interest in coming to LA when we know
six months ago he wanted to. That makes no sense
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at all.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
But because well, I think, and the worst some rumors
about this, I don't think the Lakers really want to
go and extend Anthony Davis.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
I think they're done with AD. I think they're done.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
I think Lebron is actually done with AD. To be
honest with you, yes, he played okay down the stretch
and he was there, but he has saw sometimes and
he does go through a lot of injury. I think
Lebron has done with that. I think the Lakers are
actually done with that. And if if the Lakers right
now could say we don't what a D and we
could give up on the last years of his contract,
I think they would do that in a heartbeat. I
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think they want to move on from him, and I
don't think they want to extend this contract.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
So they're gonna give up on A D and Lebron
and they're gonna go into next year with is their
best player?
Speaker 4 (13:20):
No, But eventually you're gonna have to go out and
without those guys anyway, aren't you.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
I mean, how many more years do they have left? Ad?
Speaker 4 (13:26):
It doesn't f a A D doesn't have a full
year left in his body?
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Do you you know that right?
Speaker 5 (13:31):
I do agree with that.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
I mean that that's that's a guarantee, but.
Speaker 5 (13:35):
There are a lot of good players in the NBA
that don't have a full season left on their body.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
But that's true too. And how many how many more
years do you think lebron has left? I'm kind of
curious on that that you bring that up.
Speaker 5 (13:45):
I mean, minimum two, because he's gonna play wherever Bronny plays,
and I think it's probably closely what's.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
The most, what's the most you think he'll play the most.
Speaker 5 (13:55):
I still think he could play five. I don't. I
don't know that he will, right, but I think he can.
I mean, I think thirty something points in the first
half of a Western Conference Finals game. He scored forty
points in a in a winner go home Western Conference
Finals game this year at thirty eight. So depending on
what role he wants to take, depending on how committed
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he is to playing with Brownie, he could go on
for a couple more years. I think there's more layers
to this. We can we can continue the conversation. I
know we got a you know what we got.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
As matter of fact, we got Jason locking for a
covered up. Next, we got a lot of football to
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Speaker 4 (15:04):
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Speaker 3 (15:09):
He's Aaron Torres.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
I'm already spanier in for the guys, Jason Smith at
his best friend Mike Harmon. Torres, we still are not
done with this. I'm I'm I have to attack you
in so many different ways it's not even funny. But
first let's get to our guest joining us now can
check about on honesty. Washington post edfilm Sider friend of
(15:31):
the show. It's Jason locking.
Speaker 6 (15:34):
For a You know what, Jason, what's going on? Gentlemen?
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Well, there it is.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
We're just battling and it's only one segment in right
off the bat. What did you make of this gambling story?
I mean, how many times are we going to see this?
They don't know the rules or they know the rules
and they just don't care. With Isaiah Rodgers, what's going on?
Speaker 6 (15:56):
Well, I mean, obviously we've reached a new sort of
age and the mainstreaming of sports gambling and Obviously, there
still are rules that apply to those within the confines
of the field of play that that don't apply to others.
(16:18):
Certainly don't apply to owners, right who make tens of
millions of dollars. I mean that's conservative on uh gambling
worthy official sports better of the Dallas Cowboys and blah
blah blah, Right, like it doesn't apply to them. But
somebody fires off a parlay on you know, college basketball
or whatever, and let you know, oh my god. But yeah,
(16:41):
it is a brave new world. And there has to
be ongoing and continued education from the teams themselves. Right,
every team has a former player who's there, you know,
any sort of director of players, servants services, or you know,
there's somebody in that role to sort of be that
(17:02):
liaison between the team and the league and those individuals.
And yes, these things are posted all over locker rooms,
and yes it's talked about every year at training camp
and certainly when guys come into the league and the
rookie symposiums and all that. But obviously there needs to
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be continued education and continued passing on of what's acceptable
and what's not. And the reality is, if you want
to play in the NFL and you want to play
without big brother looking over your shoulder. You should probably
not have any apps on your vote at this point,
(17:46):
because it's clear that these betting institutions are working with
the league that everybody's sort of no one wants to
have anything smelling fishy. They're all working together to try
to police this. So you know, if you think having
(18:06):
a burner or this or that it's going to get
you around it, it's it's probably not. I mean, between
the NFL and the various entities that have gambling, you know,
the ability to wager, and the ability to wager in
multiple states, and the ability to wager on your phone, like,
they're going to be diligent about not allowing anything to
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go on that looks like it's not above board because
that then will potentially compromise their ability to keep making money.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
Hand over fist, Jason, let's get to you know, more
on the field sort of ish type stuff. I mean,
obviously there's nothing really to break down at this point,
but well, I was gonna say so, I was curious
just your take on the you know, the summer of
Aaron Rodgers in New York. Go ahead, I mean, the
floor is heres because it seems like you do you
already know where I'm going with this.
Speaker 6 (19:00):
I'm already worn out, you know, like I just like
it's the relitigation of grievances and the reairing of grievances.
And what goody when goody did respond to my text
or didn't respond to my text? And how much I
may or may not have ran over Matt Lafleur, and
how much I am about to run over Nathaniel Hackett,
who's just a useful idiot who you know, I will
(19:25):
use subterfuge and sleight of hand or just plain willpower
to newter like this, just nothing about this feels right,
smells right, will be right. I mean, it's the New
York freaking Jets. What do they get right? And what
do they ever get right? You know? On the magnitude
(19:46):
and the scale of this sort of transaction. I mean,
the fact that nobody else was sniffing around on this, dude,
you know, like that that should have been a major
red flag. The fact that other organizations, if you talk
to their football people, and I talked to a lot
of them, looked at Aaron Rodgers not as a football trader.
(20:07):
Transaction but as a salary dumb like they look at
the packers and said, my god, can you imagine if
they had to play out twenty twenty three, paying this
guy sixty million dollars to go away or sixty million
dollars to back up Jordan Love, how ugly would that be?
And Woody Johnson said, oh, no, I'll pay. I'll take
the like Arnold Horsak.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
No, no, over here, over here, we're here.
Speaker 6 (20:30):
We'll pay that problem. We'll pay all that money, and
we still have a restructure the contract, and we'll put
up with all the pablo that he spews out to
McAfee every week right or to his buddies in the
media back in Green Bay, you know, once a month,
or eventually to the local media on a daily basis, Like,
and he's not even good anymore. Like, I mean, I
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don't know if people not watch this guy play the
last and it wasn't really last year. I think you
can go back to about week third team the year
before and then through that playoffs, and I don't see it,
Like he's not getting better. He's forty years old. Now,
he's in New York. He's out of his comfort zone.
(21:13):
He's out of that cocoon that is Green Bay. He's
in the much tougher conference. He's in the much tougher division. Like,
I don't know about the offensive line really much at all.
I think it's a recipe for disaster, and I think
it will be a beautiful disaster. And he was in
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Green Bay forever and couldn't bite his tongue. What does
he owe the Jets? You know what I mean? What
are the Jets to him? What is he to the Jets?
It can't possibly be his problem, like when they're three
and four. It's not me. Like even if I have
an eighty seven passer rating and all I want to
do is hand the ball off to Bristol, it can't
possibly be me. I'm Aaron fan Rodgers. You guys have
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never won. I'm back to back end. He's in my
late thirties, and I've got, you know, a Lombardy like.
It's it's not me, it's always you. Good luck, good luck,
good luck, good luck.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
You know, Jason, I ad my Sunday show. I do
a countdown how many days left until the Dolphins win
the Super Bowl? If they get Dolphin cook, I mean,
forget about it, man, They'll have the use this. I mean,
what a great weapons to have with Tua. That's going
to be unbelievable.
Speaker 6 (22:26):
Yeah, I mean I think you look at him in
that Shanahan run scheme and you'd say, man, that's a
home run hitter. My problem there, though, is just you know,
is to his availability. And I applaud him for everything
he's doing, you know, jiu jitsu and kung fu and
all these different ways to try to protect himself and
make himself stronger and learn how to fall and this
(22:48):
or that. But the you know, the terribly unfortunate thing
for to a tongue of ala is he has a
predilection towards brain bruises, and he's had multiple brain bruises
and he's had them in rapid success in a short
period of time. And I wish him all the best,
But like there's an obvious reason that they're not talking
(23:13):
about extensions with him, you know, and they're kind of
saying all the right things publicly but privately obviously sort
of hedging their bets. And everybody should be rooting for him,
and I certainly am, but I don't know how you
can make a declarative statement that two is someone who's
going to be able to get through a long, arduous
(23:36):
NFL season and come out the other side of it
and be among the best of the best come playoff time.
And that's where you're right. And now we're talking about
January football for the Dolphins, not September.
Speaker 5 (23:50):
Yeah, Jason, I need to cut you off there. I
was going to ask just in general as we look
ahead to next season, like I find San Francisco is
so fascinating. Yeah, you probably know where I'm going with this,
but maybe you have some update on brock Party that
is not available. But brock Perty's elbow. Trey Lance feels
(24:12):
like he's falling behind yees. Sam Darnold is on strike
number three here and everything else is a Super Bowl
championship roster, So what do you make of the situation
out there?
Speaker 6 (24:24):
Like I think there might be some money to be
like made on somebody like Christian McCaffrey as the offensive
player of the year if you want to look at
some futures, because I don't buy their quarterback situation whatsoever,
but I do buy the rest of their roster. And
we know they're in the NFC, which is incredibly watered down.
(24:44):
So you're not facing the gauntlet you would face in
the AFC. And as much as people want to label
Kyle Shanahan, you know, a quarterback guru, I'd say, well,
there's been way more, you know, missus than hits. And
I can remember when you know, they were trying to
sell you know, any and everybody at quarterback in Washington
(25:09):
and you know Beck and people like that, and it's like,
what are we talking about here? And you know Bethard, right,
I mean, they drafted Bethard and it's like, oh, he's
going to have a career. So he struck out quite
a bit in that regard. But what they don't strike
out on is that run game, right, that outside zone
(25:31):
Alex Gibbs run game that's been going on since Kyle's
daddy was a coordinator like that, that's pretty legit. And
with that kind of defense, they can just play ball
control and you know, try to beat you twenty one, fourteen,
seventeen ten every week. And that's where I think they're
going to be because I think we're going to get
(25:53):
into this season and I'm not going to trust either
quarterback and people want to anoint Rock Purdy for playing
you know, I don't know twelve quarters of football in
ideal situations, but I don't really know what he is.
And I know that Trey Lance hasn't played football on
a regular basis consistently since he was in high school. Yeah,
(26:13):
it's just a fact since he was in high school.
So how does that translate? So I think they're going
to be incredibly conservative. I think they are going to
want to run the ball down people's throats. And they
have a subsidy. They're in the NFC. They don't have
to face what you know, people like Tua have to face.
(26:34):
But no, I'm not buying anything they're selling at the
quarterback position right now.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
By the way, in my high school yearbook, I was
voted I looked most like Arnold Horshack.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
I want you to know that.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
No, I'm not kidding. That's not a job. That's the God.
God is truth. I want you to know all that.
Speaker 6 (26:52):
Vinnie Barbarino would have been probably preferential, but you know,
we all can't beat Travolta. I would have been.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
I love it. Jason, always a pleasure, my friend. We
appreciate it. We'll take care Jason looking for everybody.
Speaker 6 (27:10):
Uh.
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We'll get into that first theory is bogus on the story?
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Speaker 2 (28:52):
One.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
I want to read a couple of them. Let me
read one.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
Greg says typical Ernie Bunkers, spitting out nonsense. Lebron isn't
la under any circumstance, and Laker management have no interest
in Kyrie. They're smartly going to re sign Reeves, Hachimura
and shrewder and that's the way it's going to be. Aaron,
you you're the same way of the way. Greg feels
it's you don't believe the report either. Nonsense on the report.
Speaker 5 (29:18):
I believe there's a report that I believe that Kyrie
and Lebron are angling to play together. I just don't
believe it's in Dallas. So let me ask a question.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
What is Sham's responsibility as an insider? Is he like,
if you got if you're an insider, do you are
you not supposed to put this out because you go,
it's never gonna happen. Lebron's never gonna retire, So I
can't put this out.
Speaker 5 (29:41):
It's so funny you say that. I I literally gave
this exact monologue on my Saturday show, as I said,
I respect what these guys do. Yeah, but I I
enjoy being in the opinion space more than the I
have to keep my sources happy space because the n
of the quote unquote Lebron retirement, where it was like,
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did Lebron just say he was gonna retire and then
immediately out of nowhere, Chris Haynes has an article. And
I respect Chris Haynes. He's really good at what he does.
Oh my god, Lebron might retire and then Lebron just
so happened to run into Dave McManaman coming out of
Staples Center. Oh, Lebron might really be and it's like
anyone with a brain knows he's not retiring. And I
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feel bad for these guys because they got to put
out nonsense that that was absolutely not true.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
Well, one, they have to put it's not up to
them to decide whether somebody's going to retire or not,
or if it's true, or if they're being fed information.
They've got to put it out right, you understand that that.
And two, it's the same thing with you though for
us when we do a talk show, right, you get in,
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you get a story, and then we debate it whether
you believe.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
It or not.
Speaker 5 (30:52):
That's what say. We don't have to we don't have
to put it out as fact. We kind of more
contextualize it. I think, well, true, I under Chris Haynes
and Dave McManamon and all them put that out.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
Well, they're not I'm saying it's fact that they're gonna
play together in Dallas or anything like that.
Speaker 5 (31:07):
No, but I'm talking about the Lebron retirement. Oh you
know Lebron is seriously considering. No, he's not stop, he's
not stop. And you can go down a million of
the year.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
But if you were doing an interview with Lebron and
you said, hey, Lebron, how do you feel after that
last game? But he said, you know what, ered I
feel like I might retire. What are you gonna say, No,
you're not. You'd say, really, you would? You wouldn't challenge
him or anything like that. You go, come on, Lebron,
you ain't gonna retire.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
You You go, really, Lebron, or you're serious? You wouldn't
challenge about that.
Speaker 5 (31:35):
That depends on the setting. I mean, if I was
at that press conference, I would I would have said,
cause you know, I don't think anybody actually actually straight
up asked him. I mean, you can go back to
the like Chris Haynes put out an article a half
an hour after the game went final. It was clearly orchestrated,
it was already written. It was just time to hit send.
(31:56):
So and by the way, I will say, I think
that that piece of news perfectly plays into today's piece
of news. And I want to ask you a question
I meant to ask you this last night. I'm of
the belief I don't think the Lakers need to make
fundamental changes, like like I know everyone is, you know,
Lebron every year he doesn't win a championship. It's oh
my god, the sky is falling when I look at
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at the Lakers this year. They had the best record
after the All Star break. They destroyed the reigning champions,
and they ran into a really good Denver team, and
really three of those four games they could have won
in the fourth quarter, and it went the other way.
I don't know how all of the salary cap works
with Austin Reeves and what's round this. I think you
can look if you largely run that team back and
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have most of that team for the entire one.
Speaker 4 (32:45):
More person, don't you need a Jordan Poole. Don't you
need like a Jalen Brown. I don't know, you probably
have to give up too much for Jalen Brown. But
don't you need that one more person?
Speaker 5 (32:53):
Or what I mean? They didn't need them this year? Right?
Speaker 3 (32:57):
They started pretty crappy if I remember.
Speaker 5 (32:59):
Correct, after the All Star break. They have the best
record in the NBA after the All Star break.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
I mean, still though, you.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
Still though there has to be better than being the
best team in the NBA.
Speaker 5 (33:13):
Okay, that's good to know. No, listen, I don't think.
I don't think running it back makes them the definitive
best team in the league. That's not what I'm saying
at all. And I do think they have holes, like
everybody has holes. But I think normally when a team
gets swept in the conference finals or in any playoff series,
it makes you reevaluate a lot of things. This team,
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I just think a couple things won. They were thrown
together at the last minute. Basically, they had to play
playoff type games for the last six eight weeks of
the season in the lead up to the playoffs. I
think you bring back this team largely together, you get
off to a little bit of a better start, there's
no Russell Westbrook, and you get a better seed. You
don't have to worry about playing yourself into the playoffs
(33:57):
in March and April. I just think I really liked
what I saw from this Lakers team. And I'm not
a Lakers guy, like I'll be critical, but they were
the best team in the NBA after the All Star
break with the core they had again beat the second
seed Memphis Grizzlies. Who we know next year they're not
gonna be the second seed.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
I know we're shut out of time, but who's a
better team the Lakers Lebron a d and signing all
those guys, like you said, or Dallas with Kyrie, Luca
and Lebron team.
Speaker 5 (34:28):
Well, here's the problem. You don't know basketball, and so
you know what I'm.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
Luca has to be gone. Is that what you're gonna
tell the.
Speaker 5 (34:33):
No, No, no, it's not that. It's that we kind
of saw what a team with three superstars and absolutely
no bench looks like. So even under the scenario where
you can get Lebron, right he's not a free agent,
you would, in theory, have to give up something. To
the point, our producer, Justin Frossburg made the only thing
that the Lakers would be interested in is Luka Dacic, Right.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
I understand that, But let's play.
Speaker 5 (34:54):
Let's play some fun hypothetical game where there's draft picks
and bench players that the Lakers would be interested in.
I just saw that with the Suns, an older veteran team.
Sure without a bench, there's a ceiling to what they
can do. So so I would say the Lakers, as
currently constituted, I would rather run that back and try
it than go then figure out some wacky trade to
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Dallas to play with Kyrie and Luka Doncic, Well.
Speaker 4 (35:21):
I'm just wondering how that all started. Did you know,
is Kyrie just dowing it up in the air. Did
he get a hold of Lebron first? And stuff like that.
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Speaker 4 (35:45):
I want to get a little bit into what's going
on in the NFL with the gambling situation, Torres, I mean,
how many times is this going to happen?
Speaker 5 (35:53):
Fair question it?
Speaker 4 (35:54):
Well, it seems like we get a story like once
every couple of weeks on this, So we'll get into that.
We'll get more in the game too of the NBA Finals.
Who's gonna take Game three and four? We'll touch on
that a little bit. Torres and Spaniard for Smith and
Harmon here on Fox Sports Radio.
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