June 8, 2023 • 33 mins
Jason and Mike react to the end of the Nuggets vs Heat Game Three and what the Nuggets winning means going forward.
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here we are the end of game three twenty nine
seconds left to go and it is over. The heat
made it, i would say, entertaining for a hot fifteen
seconds when they cut it to ten with about a
and a half left to go, but they missed a
couple of shots. Denver's making their free throws twenty nine
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seconds left to go. The Nuggets lead one toweight ninety four.
You Donnis Haslam is now in the for the Heat,
becoming the oldest player to ever play in an NBA
Finals game at sixty eight years old. This is some
kind of achievement for a hassle. Good for him.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Also one of three in NBA history to play twenty
seasons with the same team, Jerk and Kobe.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
That's it, not small list. I may you get to
put your name in the record books. That's good stuff.
But it got down to ten and last hour I
teased the easiest way for the Heat to get back
and win another game and really make this series competitive.
Actually hit the open shots you're getting. Yeah, that always
has it, because today there are a lot of open shots.
First half, just looking around like wait, what how yeah, hell,
(02:00):
you're a professional shooter the open shot. And then you
get it to ten, guys are flailing. There's there's a
little bit of anxiety, right, and you're not expecting a
Reggie Miller like performance. Sorry, I gotta do it, but
open shot again, back iron, like, come on, it's right there,
take it.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
It is it.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
He's just spitting the ball on his finger. He can't
use a ladder.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
It is a final in Miami and TJ Messi may
be coming, but yo, Kichen, the Nuggets are leaving with
a game three victory. Make it one oh nine ninety
four is your final? A dominant effort from the Denver Nuggets.
And you know me, I hate to say I told
you so, because you know I do. I really I
(02:45):
hate to say I told you so. But at halftime,
only because we came on at halftime. Uh, I told
exactly what was gonna happen. I'm upset that the Nuggets
blew my nuggets in four prediction. They shouldn't. The should
be a three nothing Denver Nuggets lead right now. I'm embarrassed.
I med at them, I met at Michael Malone, I
met at everybody. Should not be a it should be
(03:05):
a three to zero lead, and we're talking about boy,
the Nuggets are going in for the sweep. But instead
the Nuggets fall flat and we watch Michael Malone question
their effort in Game two, I don't know why what
we're doing defensively. You would watch the Nuggets go down
and get easy hoops and then the heat on the
other end, would move the ball around and hit a
three wide open and stay in the game until they
were able to come back and erase that fifteen point deficit.
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That was the wake up call, right, That was that
wasn't the hey, we have a series. That was the
wake up call for the Nuggets because I knew coming
in now, okay, the Nuggets had lost a little bit
of their edge. Because when you're winning all these games
and you get to a point where we're not playing
great and still winning, do you really go back out
and play great or do you play as you have
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been until something gets your attention? Right, the Nuggets played
Game one and they played okay. They didn't play great,
but they played okay.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Went well for three quarters.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Yeah, but that was it. And even Malone said after
Game one, ah, we don't really know. We didn't really
play that well. No, they played okay, but they've been
beating the crap out of everybody in the playoffs, so
it's only natural to think we're gonna have a letdown
until we have to play big again. And that Game two,
that was the wake up call. That was, Okay, we
blew this fifteen point lead and now we gave home
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court away and now look at what we're doing. This
is ridiculous, and we got to go back out there,
and they went out in the second half and they
blew the doors off of Miami. This is gonna be
Nuggets and five, is said, nuggets in four, It's gonna
be nuggets and five.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
All right, Well, you were wrong the first time, so
you know, amend things and move forward. But this was
this was not the contest I anticipated going back to Miami.
Expected a little bit of fire again, some early misshots.
They get dominated on the glass. Monsey inter updated chronicled
debt in the middle of last hour and into this one.
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I mean the final get skewed a little bit, but
still a decided advantage fifty eight thirty three, and it
was actually worse than that from a percentage perspective. Earlier
on at a Bio ends up with seventeen rebounds, and
tonight was one of those games where for the heat,
that was the question coming in in terms of defending
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the Bigs, being able to defend the glass and corral rebounds,
not the fifty to fifty balls that are scorting out
to the edges and whatever else, but actually at the
glass and outside of BAM at a bio tonight you had.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Your leading rebounder was Strews had four.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
That's not as more than you and I had, right,
I mean, look, Christian Braun earned his playing time, playing
great defense, a lot of intensity. In game two he
got more run He finished with fifteen off the bench
for the Nuggets. But this really was Batman and Robin.
This was Yo Kitchen.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Really yeah, really yeah, come on man, really yeah. Okay.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
I watched a Giant Warner Brothers documentary and they kept
going back to Batman as one thing.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Hey, you said it once and you got it in
now now you're just you're just that was just that
was overkilled. We didn't need that.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Well he didn't respond the first indeed he didn't.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
If Ty Shirt's not paying attention because he's building grunts
or trying to figure out the Zack Snyder cut of
the Flash movie, I know then way we miss it.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
We moved on by the way I called you the
Flash before, and I'm like, hey, you're at least promoting
the show as opposed to Hey, where where where are they?
Speaker 4 (06:29):
Come on? You can't you can't put as a miller
in front of a cameraman.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
You know what is called the but you know what
it's all about. Batman, Michael Keaton and Michael Shannon came back.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
You're done, You've done, You're done saying the B word. Nope,
you're done saying it. You're done.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
I'm just kidding. Don't patronize me, are you? No? Nine
ninety four year final dominating the glass. Jokich and Jamal
Murray were just spectacular. I'm both ends two team at
first two teammates triple doubles in the NBA Finals. Jokis
the first thirty twenty and ten triple double in NBA
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Finals history, and Murray gets those couple of rebounds late
to finish thirty four, ten and ten. This is how
it goes for the Denver Nuggets. Also the first guy
to ever do that back to back to back games
in terms of ten assists or more to get open
his NBA Finals career. So we'd asked whether he would
be that guy. Well, he's answered, and.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
Not one person guys is ever gonna remember this performance.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Never Jokicch, so sure they will. You won't even be
able to people won't even be able to answer who
played in the finals.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
A year from now. That was the late The Lakers
had a really good run.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Right.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
We talked a lot about the Celtics, right, it was
a sad Joe Mizulu.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
That was Celtics. It was that. Yeah, it could have been. No,
Jokic is great. People are watching the finals. Is it
going to be a Lakers win NBA Finals or a
Celtics win or a ward. No, it's not. But enough
people are watching.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Well, they got nearly twelve million for Game one.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
It's fine. It's fine.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
Okay, So they got the whole city at Denver to watch.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Not every not every final, not every Super Bowl, not
every World series has created the same Some are gonna
be great matchups with heritage teams and big markets and
big stars, and some of them aren't. That's just how
it goes.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
We're talking about it the other day.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
This is one if you're a basketball fan, like, hey,
I love the inner workings of the NBA and watching
the game at its best, this is a series that
can work for you. You've got the heat and heat
culture that people keep mocking, like how do you mock
it when they're in the finals or competing for the
conference finals every other year? But you know what, whatever
(08:42):
gets you your clicks, have fun with it. And then
the Denver Nuggets and you'll Kitchen, we're already trying to
figure out where where he ranks all time and all
of that.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Fun.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Two time MVP, and he's fun because he just kind
of wants to play basketball. Yeah, and ride his harness horses.
I mean, that's it, that's what he does.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
I just love when people want to complain about Look
at the NBA Finals, and it's that, it's that boiler plate.
People aren't watching, people don't care. The NBA is in trouble,
right like that, But the people that aren't here and
that's completely in patently false.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
But in the larger societal thing, great, one hundred million
people watch the Super Bowl. That means two thirds of
the country doesn't actually three quarters at this point if
you believe the latest CeNSE is dead, right, that's close
to one in four. Okay, that's a lot of people
that aren't watching for the NBA. Guess what we're in
(09:37):
sports talk radio and sports television. The people that are
listening or watching, they care about sports, and they care
about the NBA Finals. So sitting for ten minutes at
a time complaining how nobody's watching doesn't make sense because
the people you're talking to are all watching and paying attention.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Oh, the NBA, look at this the rate. The NBA
is in trouble. How many times he read the NBA
is in trouble because NBA Finals ratings are at what
they were at their peak. Wait, they're a pandemic. Or
when Lebron or the Warriors are playing, NBA is in trouble. Yes,
if the Nuggets win this and no more than eleven
million people watch, the NBA will fold and we're not
(10:17):
gonna have basketball next year.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
When the next article is about the next rights agreement,
whether they expand to Europe or which foreign country gets
a team.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
It's talking out of both sides your mouth, it's or
somewhere else. It's just insane that people want to look
at No, but you knew this was the final coming in. Yes,
the NBA would love to have Lebron and the Knicks
and the Celtics have Laker Celtics or Lakers six ers
or something like that. They'd love to, but you can't
have that every year. The NFL would love to have
Mahomes and the cow have the Chiefs and the Cowboys
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or the Steelers and the Cowboys every year. They'd love
to have the Jets and the Giants this year, or
the Jets and the Rams. But you're just not gonna
get it all the time. That's just how it goes.
Nothing is trouble, nothing thing is awful, nothing is going away.
It's all about it still boring. It's well, look, I
I I can't.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
Hey, Kevin had.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
One line that really sucks it all up. You don't
like it, don't watch.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
It's the same thing. It's the same philosophy as watching
a hit television show. Right, think about this for a second,
because now we talk about why people are watching. And
you know, we went into last week, how four really
big shows ended and so people were huge shows, right,
Missus Masel and Ted Lasso and Barry in succession. It
was a really big how many people want very finale?
(11:35):
It's huge and it's viewing given eight nine thousand people
watched Barry at the end. But you know there there's
delayed viewing and all that kind of no.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
No. But but in terms of appointment, must see, like
like we keep trying to compare stuff to but because
everybody wants to compare to Seinfeld or before Bash.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Yeah, when you.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Don't watch it again, you know, but that one network.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Is that to say, oh, suddenly I'm not gonna watch
the NBA Finals. Just think about it. Like in terms
of ted Lasso, right, whether you watch ted Lass or
not ted Lasso, this season was not great. There was
a pretty decent beginning. Then they had a lot of
storylines that didn't go anywhere. It didn't seem to have
a through line. It wasn't great. It had a pretty
good ending, and now it looks like it could be
(12:20):
the end or they could be ready for a spinoff
if you believe Apple TV wants to do it again,
except without without just already character. So but as as
even though it was a bad season, did anybody stop
watching Anybody's I'm not watching. I don't like these last repords.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
I know.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
No, you're still watching, right. You may not like it,
and you may think, oh, this is a bad episode,
but you're still gonna watch all the way through because
it's the end the NBA Finals. For basketball fans, people watching,
they're not gonna not watch. I'm a basketball fan the finals.
Un Oh it's a nug Yeah, I'm not gonna watch it.
Why that's not No. The casual fan is the one
that you don't get. And this is when the NBA
(12:56):
Finals goes from hey, eleven million people watched it. Hey,
here's fourteen million people. Because you had casual fans who
are interested because it's Lebron or it's the Warriors, or
it's the Knicks or the Celtics. Right, that's who you
You just don't get the casual fan. Right, but every
but everybody still watches. There's nobody not watching. Who's a
basketball fan. They're all watching it. It's just the casual fan,
(13:18):
the people who are not listening to sports talk radio
or not watching the TV shows during the day. Those
are the ones you're not getting. But the big basketball fan, Yeah,
they're still watching.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
It's still a big deal.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
People are still gonna watch Game four, They're still gonna
watch Game five. They're still gonna watch games. Oh that's
not gonnapen because the Nuggets win five. They're still gonna
watch all those things. That's how it's gonna go.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Yeah, just thinking about it, or conventional television shows and
how we consume. We joke about Barry and whatever. Their
season was, Uh, seven hundred thousand people got to their
television to watch it as it aired. Ted Lasso three
million or thereabouts, probably up to but the amount of
(14:00):
for the amount of press, publicity articles and big thought pieces,
outrage whatever. And perhaps it's just because we're in that
echo chamber where it maybe was a bit louder. People
watch and maybe came in for the finale because so
many had hyped it, and it's like, all right, let's
see how they wrap it up. Because you're always curious
about series enders as to how well or poorly they do,
(14:23):
and even folks that haven't watched the show continually will
dive in. Likewise, NBA fans, there's a lot of people
whose teams were eliminated six weeks ago, seven weeks ago,
The NBA is a foreign concept to them at this point.
Maybe you watched that Tuesday night so you can get
(14:43):
the draft lottery results, hoping that Victor found his way
to your squad. We didn't get him, moving on, but
you pay attention a bit. Maybe in this time of
the year, as you're starting to get out for summer break,
you're starting to look at graduations and all these different
festivities and all. Then maybe you're not paying his close attention.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
For a full four quarters.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
But if you're a basketball fan, you're still around the game.
So the lamentation over. You know, people being bored, just
get over it. Either in or you're out right now.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
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Speaker 4 (15:29):
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Speaker 1 (15:30):
The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon
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Speaker 4 (15:39):
Yes, your famili's back together. You got to celebrate when
you're at protest.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Look, I love ty Shirt, but if he's just gonna
play these songs every single night, we gotta have a conversation.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
Well, I'm STI waiting free to have a good take. Wow,
you said.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
That was the deal a long time ago. All right,
you want huggins. You see all the shows during the
day list of other shows right here there. It's the
same thing we say. I mean, it's fair except the
next day after Okay, just so you know, just except
for the truly and outrageous things like that. Really, I
like the way that was said right there.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
I just don't know what to do with my fore
shirts I'm making Jason, Now.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Get those fours up.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
They're going to be huge in third world countries.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
They'll be the ones that they send out like the
all the Buffalo Bills Super Bowl champs from the nineties. Yeah,
this year's Jets just no, come on, man, dude, if
we make it already doing the towel on the whole season,
You think we didn't see that story.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
I know you don't want to hit it.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
No, we told us we're not allowed to talk about it,
but talking about what you guys already canceled Mini camp
next week.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
They just said it's not even worth it.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
Even the White Flower see it. We can't even hold
mini camp.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
We don't need it. We don't need it. We're good.
We got so much out of OTEM load management. We
don't need it.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
Has come or Aaron Rodgers just said, Hey, you want
to rethink this?
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Yeah, no, you're absolutely. I have an Iahwasca retreat next week.
I scheduled it long ago, and I'm bringing the whole team.
We're all going to be in a darkness retreat next week.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
All of us.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
We're gonna have the good stuff, so we can tell
each other our deepest, darkest secrets and bond.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
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to one lead in the NBA Finals, they absolutely dismantle
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the heat one oh nine ninety four. Nikola Jokic first
ever thirty, twenty and ten triple double in NBA Finals history,
had a triple double from Jamal Murray as well at
thirty four, ten and ten. The Nuggets were never in
any danger in the second half. And look, we've heard
a lot about heat culture and heat culture and heat culture.
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I want to throw it because all heat culture is,
and this is how you beat it. If you're the
Denver Nuggets, all heat culture is is we play hard
all the time. That's heat culture. It should be every
team's culture, but it's not. We play hard all the time.
An eight seed should not be in the NBA Finals,
but they're here. Why because well, you get hot. You
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get hot. But the Milwaukee injuries and everything else can
come right. But go through things because you had the
heat added. Well, they're still missing Tyler Hero, right, so
you go again. Culture, next man up. It should be
a very easy thing. Heat culture should be every team's
culture because not quitting and giving the effort needed should
be something that is second nature. It's something you learn
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when you first start playing youth sports. I can't can't
control effort. You gotta give you the effort. Okay, effort,
but we still see teams not giving the effort. The
Celtics ultimately gave effort in the Eastern Conference Finals. The
Nuggets were blasted by their head coach after Game two
for not giving an effort. It's the NBA Finals and
you're talking about we're not giving an effort. But the heat.
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That's heat culture. They don't give up. There's never a
game they're out of. They're going to always try to
shoot their way back into it. That should be every team,
but it's not. The Knicks weren't that way, the Bucks
weren't that way. They were questioning what was going on
and they didn't know what, Buttenholzer was calling. So you know,
they didn't feel the sense of urgency and they weren't together.
But the Heat have that message. They believe in Eric Spolstra.
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They go out and they don't have any memory if
they're winning by fifteen or down by fifteen. They play
this same membory of the goldfish man. Come on now,
they play that. That's Heat culture. And how do you
demolish the Heat culture by just putting out the effort
you need when you're a more talented team. And the
Denver Nuggets are a more talented team.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
They are.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
They are a more talented team top to bottom of
the Miami Heat. And when they got that game we
talked about a few minutes ago, Game two wasn't a
hey we have an we have an NBA Finals game,
Hey we got a series now. No, this was the
wake up call that the Nuggets needed. And when the Nuggets,
with their talent, can put on display, Okay, we understand
we can't cruise anymore. We've been cruising through most of
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the playoffs games like tonight one O nine to ninety four.
It's why this seri is gonna end in five. The
Nuggets had the wake up call the win Game four,
the win Game five, the NBA champion.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
To be fair, they they did start to look like
the team of Game one. Down the stretch, right, we
got to ten and the Heat had the ball. Yeah, yeah,
Now they were only a couple of minutes left, and
we see how it ends.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
But they push it back out to fifteen. They didn't
hold on to win by six. They push it back.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Oh that's fine, right, It's it's one or two baskets
either way. But it's it's just the idea that you'll
you'll let them back in once again. Uh. And in
this case, you had a fourth quarter that the Nuggets
actually win by a point. That's all finding good. Yeah,
it's the old If everybody did it, it'd be easy.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Right.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Common sense isn't so common? Is a phrase you hear
quite often. Right, the little things that you should do.
The eighty percent is showing up. I've always hated that philosophy.
I want a little more effort than that. But forty
eight minutes and staying healthy, all of those things. It's
it's a difficult proposition to run through a season, to
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stay motivated, to stay locked in. Michael Malone, it's pretty
clear when he was calling out effort he did everything
but call out the jersey numbers of the two or
three players. He really meant that four In game two, Uh,
looking at you, Contavious called he was the main offender.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
As related to he did nothing.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
Him and Michael Porter Junior did nothing.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
To Michael Porter Junior has been invisible. Now Casep got
in early foul trouble. But for him in the prior games,
he had those defensive lapses, which why you saw more Braun.
I mean you see more of him where he's running
up and down like a man with his hair on fire,
like I'm in the NBA finals.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
Man, you watch a.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Christian Braun player going, how is Kansas not didn't how
do they not win like three championships in a row?
Speaker 3 (21:53):
Well, that's why I don't pick it. I don't pick
Bill self anymore. That great when I when I don't
pick him is when he went. But it's just the
idea of you got a guy that from an effort perspective.
You saw the minutes that he earned with what he
was doing on both ends of the court, trying to
fill up passing lanes, going and diving after loose balls,
all those little things. The margin because you know what
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you're getting pretty routinely out of your your top two players, right,
Jokic and Murray are gonna give you a loaded stat sheet.
But what are the rest of the guys doing? And
right now they've they've gotten by with Michael Porter Jr.
Played a good half in Game one. I haven't seen
him really at all ever since KCP was the guy.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
I will identify him for you, Michael Malone.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Effort, effort, I need effort from you, and might as
well have been pointing and staring at him like the
evil monkey coming out of the closet.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
And Family Guy.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Just that's pretty obscure, but I like it.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
Obscure, it shows it up for twenty five years. No,
I like it.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
I like I like one of the great characters of
all time.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
You want to you want to get a Family Guy story.
So I was off last night. There was a big
my daughter at her middle school had the big awards
night for for middle school and they gave out awards
all different kids and the one of the teachers came
was given award for a kid and she says, you
know what I have, And I figure, it's not a rebus?
What what is it called? When you do you have
the person's name up there? And they had a word
(23:24):
for each of them, like like the girl's name was no, no, No.
The girl's name was Carmen. She goes C for class
because she was full of class all year. A was
for attendance. What do they call that when you have
a word and an achronist acrosstic across acrosstic. Yeah, that
sounds right, So something I haven't used in my daily
(23:46):
and across. So it was an A, you know, and
and and and the M is.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
First of each new line spells out a word, message
or alphabet.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Yeah, so the teachers and it's a huge auditorium, right,
it's a huge auditorium. So the teachers all the way
in the front and I'm kind of sitting in the
back a little bit. And she was, you know, I
haven't an acrosstic for this next person. I'm going to
talk about the letters that come up. And and the
middle letter because name was Carmen, uh is an R.
And so she goes see for class. She came to class.
(24:14):
She was always prepared. She did this, she did that
a her attendance. She didn't miss the class all year.
It was fantastic, and she goes are and she pauses
to like turn the page over. She says are and
someone goes is for Robert Loja. Yes, I don't think
everybody heard all the way in the front, but.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
I want to go have a beer with that time
right now.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
I was mad that I wasn't that you weren't the guy,
but it was somebody that I knew, Like I knew
it's one of the girls like coaching soccer for a
long time. So I'm like, I'm not gonna because I
right away she's doing all the things C and A
A R R for Robert Loja that I wanted to
be that guy, wanted to be that guy.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
I know, I truly appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
So we're just watching and Eric Spolstra is talking to
the media right now, so well, he.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Was actually crying He's gonna get mad at somebody. You
know what, I really wanted to kick Ramona out yet he.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
Was very very upset. Guys that ABC zoomed all the
way in on you, Danis Hazelm's head was very unfair.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
They did they move in on that. I would want
to I want to raise my hand and go hey,
coach Jays Smith, Fox Sports Radio Hey, so, boy, you
couldn't turn Nicole into a scorer? How boy, he just
did everything? Wow, you know you're right. Like you said
the other day, you didn't like the question. You thought
it was a bad line of questioning. It was untrained eye.
But boy, tonight, so you're right. Your trained eye from
(25:34):
my media pulpit says your philosophy of letting him do
whatever he wants to. Boy, he beat the crap out
of you guys by fifteen. You couldn't stop him from scoring.
You couldn't keep him off the glass, couldn't keep from
setting up past you. You know you're right, you're right.
Not turning him into a score that was that was
the right move. Now letting him do all of this
and not stopping him that was great. Man. Can you
tell us why you did that?
Speaker 3 (25:54):
How about you think outside the box and ask a
question about Christian Brawn.
Speaker 4 (25:58):
It just blow his mind? You know?
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Would he fit in your heat culture with the amount
of effort he brings in between the white lines? He
looks like he really wants it every time down the court.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Hey, coach Spoe, I'm gonna see my time to Ramona
Shelburn and let her ask a question of you right
now so she can answer quse. I think she wants
to ask you about the old turning Yokichen too, his
score thing.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Hey, I spy with my untrained eye, unbelieved.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
What do you think of what's going on with Zion Williamson? Hey,
you know one thing, we know, Zion's not that injured.
I don't know, literally, I don't think Zion's that injured.
I mean, the hammies and blots are firing. So let's
get him back.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
Out on a court.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
You know, it doesn't look like things are that best,
So maybe he's going to play at some point soon.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
Oh, we know his saliva is up, so that's good.
He's been playing all right?
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Uh No.
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Speaker 1 (26:57):
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three of the finals.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
Does he see a way forward for the heat? It's
a series over?
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Is Nikola Yokich putting together the most dominant NBA finals
we've ever seen, and you're.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
Gonna start singing there's no way out, no way out.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
But for a few minutes here, I am positive I
can shed some light on all the controversy surrounding the
PGA Tour Live Golf quote merger that's going to happen,
right The surprise headline from a day ago that the
whole PGA Tour versus Live Golf everything going on. No, now,
(27:43):
we're all gonna be one happy family. Now we're all
gonna be together in one big world tour. Now we're
still waiting to see exactly how it's going to go.
We'll live golf actually still be a presence. Will it
get folded in is it's still gonna be called the
PGA Tour. But they're all gonna be together.
Speaker 4 (27:59):
All the hate we all had of hate nut now
that we're all.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Gonna be together. Right back to my pragmatist view of
the world exactly right now, there's a lot of upset golfers.
Rory McElroy very upset, who said, I feel like the
sacrificial lamb. I still hate live golf. There's a lot
of golfers who hate it. There's a lot of golfers
who stuck, stuck with the PGA Tour when they could
have gone to make money. They're upset that these golfers
who left were able to come back and just walk
(28:25):
right back in. Now time will tell if they're allowed
to walk back in, and it's actually what it's going
to be. But I get there are people who are
upset because these guys left. They left a great tour
to go for a money grab. They got their money,
and now look, what would I tell you? Within a
year they're gonna want to come back. And here now
they're all getting But here's the thing. It was it about.
(28:46):
There's a lot, a lot of tentacles to this thing.
But were the golfers necessarily saying, please, can we come back?
Because if their checks were cashing?
Speaker 3 (28:56):
I mean, I think I'm still cool, so I still
bagged my hundred twenty five million guarantee that I'm feeling okay.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Yeah, but for now. But like like I like I've
said for the longest time, how long were the Saudis
going to be interested in cutting all these big checks
when no one's watching on television, no one cares. How
long would it go. It would be eventually they would
lose interest and then that's where it would happen.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Well, but then it becomes a question of are you
okay with Hey, I got a giant satchel of money, yeah,
and I can move on to the next phase of
my life.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
But why did this happen?
Speaker 4 (29:28):
Why?
Speaker 1 (29:29):
And everybody is mad at j Monahan that the director
of the PGA Tour. A lot of golfers want him out.
I understand that, I get all of it. I understand
why they were upset that there was this was a
negotiation that was happening under cover of night. The golfers
didn't know that this was happening. And now we reach
an agreement. I will I'm gonna guarantee you this because
like Denzel, watch it in for move and I'll guarantee
you this. I will guarantee you this. The PGA Tour
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was in trouble because they would not have gone to
this extent to fold in ensure the future that they
needed unless they had to. They hated the live tour.
They wanted to Live Tour out of business. They understood
as much as it was, look, we increase purses, we
did all of these things. The PGA Tour was in
trouble because everything is done for money, and if the
(30:13):
PGA Tour was doing okay with money, they would have
seen this out. They would said, no, we'll ride this out.
You're not gonna play here, You're not gonna do this.
But I guarantee you they were in trouble, and this
was a way to ensure the future that everybody stays
and maybe the PGA Tour stays at the forefront of
golf because of this. But this was a decision that
was made because I have to ensure, and Monahan and
the PGA Tour has to ensure we are still going
(30:35):
to be around and be at presence. This would not
have happened if the tour wasn't in some kind of
financial straits, and I'm sure they weren't well.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
And that extends to the point that I've made in
all of this. We go back to our analysis of
what happened in the case of the NFL and Colin
Kaepernick and so many others since you and I have
been together on the airwaves, and what generally happens at
the eleventh or maybe eleven thirty, maybe it's even close
(31:04):
to midnight there's always a settlement or hey, let's talk
about this. And that's what we're talking about here, is
as you get close, because why did all some of
those golfers, not all of them, but some of them
left because they had legitimate, as they said, beef with
the PGA over different things, some of it public, some
of it not. Phil Mickelson and others have had their
(31:28):
say in public time and again. But when stuff's gonna
start coming to light from behind the scenes, and you
know where the bodies are buried. If you've been around
a tour long enough, right, players like Mickelson who've been
going out what twenty three, twenty four years at this point,
there's a lot of institutional knowledge. When you start getting
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into discovery of legal things, all the bad stuff finds
its way to the surface, not to mention the accounting
and the financials, and you still have that tax exempt
status that you're desperate to keep because there's a lot
of questions, Wait, you were able to increase purses and
(32:10):
revenues and wait, what how are you still tax exempts?
So those are questions that the PGA might have been
able to at least fend off short term having to
explain or defend that in another circuit, if.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
The PGA Tour was doing fine, they would have moved on.
They would have moved on and it would have been
absolutely fine. But they hit this, and now it makes sense.
It makes sense this would be going on under cover
of night. Why nobody would know about it and no stories. Hey,
PGA to because if it gets out, PGA Tours in trouble.
Guess what, the merger goes a little bit different way,
(32:46):
and things happened differently than they did. Trust me, they
wouldn't have done it if they didn't have to.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
Didn't even trust the guys that were the biggest stands
for you either.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
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here we are the end of game three twenty nine
seconds left to go and it is over. The heat
made it, i would say, entertaining for a hot fifteen
seconds when they cut it to ten with about a
and a half left to go, but they missed a
couple of shots. Denver's making their free throws twenty nine
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seconds left to go. The Nuggets lead one toweight ninety four.
You Donnis Haslam is now in the for the Heat,
becoming the oldest player to ever play in an NBA
Finals game at sixty eight years old. This is some
kind of achievement for a hassle. Good for him.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Also one of three in NBA history to play twenty
seasons with the same team, Jerk and Kobe.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
That's it, not small list. I may you get to
put your name in the record books. That's good stuff.
But it got down to ten and last hour I
teased the easiest way for the Heat to get back
and win another game and really make this series competitive.
Actually hit the open shots you're getting. Yeah, that always
has it, because today there are a lot of open shots.
First half, just looking around like wait, what how yeah, hell,
(02:00):
you're a professional shooter the open shot. And then you
get it to ten, guys are flailing. There's there's a
little bit of anxiety, right, and you're not expecting a
Reggie Miller like performance. Sorry, I gotta do it, but
open shot again, back iron, like, come on, it's right there,
take it.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
It is it.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
He's just spitting the ball on his finger. He can't
use a ladder.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
It is a final in Miami and TJ Messi may
be coming, but yo, Kichen, the Nuggets are leaving with
a game three victory. Make it one oh nine ninety
four is your final? A dominant effort from the Denver Nuggets.
And you know me, I hate to say I told
you so, because you know I do. I really I
(02:45):
hate to say I told you so. But at halftime,
only because we came on at halftime. Uh, I told
exactly what was gonna happen. I'm upset that the Nuggets
blew my nuggets in four prediction. They shouldn't. The should
be a three nothing Denver Nuggets lead right now. I'm embarrassed.
I med at them, I met at Michael Malone, I
met at everybody. Should not be a it should be
(03:05):
a three to zero lead, and we're talking about boy,
the Nuggets are going in for the sweep. But instead
the Nuggets fall flat and we watch Michael Malone question
their effort in Game two, I don't know why what
we're doing defensively. You would watch the Nuggets go down
and get easy hoops and then the heat on the
other end, would move the ball around and hit a
three wide open and stay in the game until they
were able to come back and erase that fifteen point deficit.
(03:28):
That was the wake up call, right, That was that
wasn't the hey, we have a series. That was the
wake up call for the Nuggets because I knew coming
in now, okay, the Nuggets had lost a little bit
of their edge. Because when you're winning all these games
and you get to a point where we're not playing
great and still winning, do you really go back out
and play great or do you play as you have
(03:49):
been until something gets your attention? Right, the Nuggets played
Game one and they played okay. They didn't play great,
but they played okay.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Went well for three quarters.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Yeah, but that was it. And even Malone said after
Game one, ah, we don't really know. We didn't really
play that well. No, they played okay, but they've been
beating the crap out of everybody in the playoffs, so
it's only natural to think we're gonna have a letdown
until we have to play big again. And that Game two,
that was the wake up call. That was, Okay, we
blew this fifteen point lead and now we gave home
(04:19):
court away and now look at what we're doing. This
is ridiculous, and we got to go back out there,
and they went out in the second half and they
blew the doors off of Miami. This is gonna be
Nuggets and five, is said, nuggets in four, It's gonna
be nuggets and five.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
All right, Well, you were wrong the first time, so
you know, amend things and move forward. But this was
this was not the contest I anticipated going back to Miami.
Expected a little bit of fire again, some early misshots.
They get dominated on the glass. Monsey inter updated chronicled
debt in the middle of last hour and into this one.
(04:52):
I mean the final get skewed a little bit, but
still a decided advantage fifty eight thirty three, and it
was actually worse than that from a percentage perspective. Earlier
on at a Bio ends up with seventeen rebounds, and
tonight was one of those games where for the heat,
that was the question coming in in terms of defending
(05:12):
the Bigs, being able to defend the glass and corral rebounds,
not the fifty to fifty balls that are scorting out
to the edges and whatever else, but actually at the
glass and outside of BAM at a bio tonight you had.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Your leading rebounder was Strews had four.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
That's not as more than you and I had, right,
I mean, look, Christian Braun earned his playing time, playing
great defense, a lot of intensity. In game two he
got more run He finished with fifteen off the bench
for the Nuggets. But this really was Batman and Robin.
This was Yo Kitchen.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Really yeah, really yeah, come on man, really yeah. Okay.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
I watched a Giant Warner Brothers documentary and they kept
going back to Batman as one thing.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Hey, you said it once and you got it in
now now you're just you're just that was just that
was overkilled. We didn't need that.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Well he didn't respond the first indeed he didn't.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
If Ty Shirt's not paying attention because he's building grunts
or trying to figure out the Zack Snyder cut of
the Flash movie, I know then way we miss it.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
We moved on by the way I called you the
Flash before, and I'm like, hey, you're at least promoting
the show as opposed to Hey, where where where are they?
Speaker 4 (06:29):
Come on? You can't you can't put as a miller
in front of a cameraman.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
You know what is called the but you know what
it's all about. Batman, Michael Keaton and Michael Shannon came back.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
You're done, You've done, You're done saying the B word. Nope,
you're done saying it. You're done.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
I'm just kidding. Don't patronize me, are you? No? Nine
ninety four year final dominating the glass. Jokich and Jamal
Murray were just spectacular. I'm both ends two team at
first two teammates triple doubles in the NBA Finals. Jokis
the first thirty twenty and ten triple double in NBA
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Finals history, and Murray gets those couple of rebounds late
to finish thirty four, ten and ten. This is how
it goes for the Denver Nuggets. Also the first guy
to ever do that back to back to back games
in terms of ten assists or more to get open
his NBA Finals career. So we'd asked whether he would
be that guy. Well, he's answered, and.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
Not one person guys is ever gonna remember this performance.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Never Jokicch, so sure they will. You won't even be
able to people won't even be able to answer who
played in the finals.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
A year from now. That was the late The Lakers
had a really good run.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Right.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
We talked a lot about the Celtics, right, it was
a sad Joe Mizulu.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
That was Celtics. It was that. Yeah, it could have been. No,
Jokic is great. People are watching the finals. Is it
going to be a Lakers win NBA Finals or a
Celtics win or a ward. No, it's not. But enough
people are watching.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Well, they got nearly twelve million for Game one.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
It's fine. It's fine.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
Okay, So they got the whole city at Denver to watch.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Not every not every final, not every Super Bowl, not
every World series has created the same Some are gonna
be great matchups with heritage teams and big markets and
big stars, and some of them aren't. That's just how
it goes.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
We're talking about it the other day.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
This is one if you're a basketball fan, like, hey,
I love the inner workings of the NBA and watching
the game at its best, this is a series that
can work for you. You've got the heat and heat
culture that people keep mocking, like how do you mock
it when they're in the finals or competing for the
conference finals every other year? But you know what, whatever
(08:42):
gets you your clicks, have fun with it. And then
the Denver Nuggets and you'll Kitchen, we're already trying to
figure out where where he ranks all time and all
of that.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Fun.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Two time MVP, and he's fun because he just kind
of wants to play basketball. Yeah, and ride his harness horses.
I mean, that's it, that's what he does.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
I just love when people want to complain about Look
at the NBA Finals, and it's that, it's that boiler plate.
People aren't watching, people don't care. The NBA is in trouble,
right like that, But the people that aren't here and
that's completely in patently false.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
But in the larger societal thing, great, one hundred million
people watch the Super Bowl. That means two thirds of
the country doesn't actually three quarters at this point if
you believe the latest CeNSE is dead, right, that's close
to one in four. Okay, that's a lot of people
that aren't watching for the NBA. Guess what we're in
(09:37):
sports talk radio and sports television. The people that are
listening or watching, they care about sports, and they care
about the NBA Finals. So sitting for ten minutes at
a time complaining how nobody's watching doesn't make sense because
the people you're talking to are all watching and paying attention.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Oh, the NBA, look at this the rate. The NBA
is in trouble. How many times he read the NBA
is in trouble because NBA Finals ratings are at what
they were at their peak. Wait, they're a pandemic. Or
when Lebron or the Warriors are playing, NBA is in trouble. Yes,
if the Nuggets win this and no more than eleven
million people watch, the NBA will fold and we're not
(10:17):
gonna have basketball next year.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
When the next article is about the next rights agreement,
whether they expand to Europe or which foreign country gets
a team.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
It's talking out of both sides your mouth, it's or
somewhere else. It's just insane that people want to look
at No, but you knew this was the final coming in. Yes,
the NBA would love to have Lebron and the Knicks
and the Celtics have Laker Celtics or Lakers six ers
or something like that. They'd love to, but you can't
have that every year. The NFL would love to have
Mahomes and the cow have the Chiefs and the Cowboys
(10:49):
or the Steelers and the Cowboys every year. They'd love
to have the Jets and the Giants this year, or
the Jets and the Rams. But you're just not gonna
get it all the time. That's just how it goes.
Nothing is trouble, nothing thing is awful, nothing is going away.
It's all about it still boring. It's well, look, I
I I can't.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
Hey, Kevin had.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
One line that really sucks it all up. You don't
like it, don't watch.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
It's the same thing. It's the same philosophy as watching
a hit television show. Right, think about this for a second,
because now we talk about why people are watching. And
you know, we went into last week, how four really
big shows ended and so people were huge shows, right,
Missus Masel and Ted Lasso and Barry in succession. It
was a really big how many people want very finale?
(11:35):
It's huge and it's viewing given eight nine thousand people
watched Barry at the end. But you know there there's
delayed viewing and all that kind of no.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
No. But but in terms of appointment, must see, like
like we keep trying to compare stuff to but because
everybody wants to compare to Seinfeld or before Bash.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Yeah, when you.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Don't watch it again, you know, but that one network.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Is that to say, oh, suddenly I'm not gonna watch
the NBA Finals. Just think about it. Like in terms
of ted Lasso, right, whether you watch ted Lass or
not ted Lasso, this season was not great. There was
a pretty decent beginning. Then they had a lot of
storylines that didn't go anywhere. It didn't seem to have
a through line. It wasn't great. It had a pretty
good ending, and now it looks like it could be
(12:20):
the end or they could be ready for a spinoff
if you believe Apple TV wants to do it again,
except without without just already character. So but as as
even though it was a bad season, did anybody stop
watching Anybody's I'm not watching. I don't like these last repords.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
I know.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
No, you're still watching, right. You may not like it,
and you may think, oh, this is a bad episode,
but you're still gonna watch all the way through because
it's the end the NBA Finals. For basketball fans, people watching,
they're not gonna not watch. I'm a basketball fan the finals.
Un Oh it's a nug Yeah, I'm not gonna watch it.
Why that's not No. The casual fan is the one
that you don't get. And this is when the NBA
(12:56):
Finals goes from hey, eleven million people watched it. Hey,
here's fourteen million people. Because you had casual fans who
are interested because it's Lebron or it's the Warriors, or
it's the Knicks or the Celtics. Right, that's who you
You just don't get the casual fan. Right, but every
but everybody still watches. There's nobody not watching. Who's a
basketball fan. They're all watching it. It's just the casual fan,
(13:18):
the people who are not listening to sports talk radio
or not watching the TV shows during the day. Those
are the ones you're not getting. But the big basketball fan, Yeah,
they're still watching.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
It's still a big deal.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
People are still gonna watch Game four, They're still gonna
watch Game five. They're still gonna watch games. Oh that's
not gonnapen because the Nuggets win five. They're still gonna
watch all those things. That's how it's gonna go.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Yeah, just thinking about it, or conventional television shows and
how we consume. We joke about Barry and whatever. Their
season was, Uh, seven hundred thousand people got to their
television to watch it as it aired. Ted Lasso three
million or thereabouts, probably up to but the amount of
(14:00):
for the amount of press, publicity articles and big thought pieces,
outrage whatever. And perhaps it's just because we're in that
echo chamber where it maybe was a bit louder. People
watch and maybe came in for the finale because so
many had hyped it, and it's like, all right, let's
see how they wrap it up. Because you're always curious
about series enders as to how well or poorly they do,
(14:23):
and even folks that haven't watched the show continually will
dive in. Likewise, NBA fans, there's a lot of people
whose teams were eliminated six weeks ago, seven weeks ago,
The NBA is a foreign concept to them at this point.
Maybe you watched that Tuesday night so you can get
(14:43):
the draft lottery results, hoping that Victor found his way
to your squad. We didn't get him, moving on, but
you pay attention a bit. Maybe in this time of
the year, as you're starting to get out for summer break,
you're starting to look at graduations and all these different
festivities and all. Then maybe you're not paying his close attention.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
For a full four quarters.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
But if you're a basketball fan, you're still around the game.
So the lamentation over. You know, people being bored, just
get over it. Either in or you're out right now.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon
doing the show under protests for the music that's played
under protest. You're on the show tonight.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
Yes, your famili's back together. You got to celebrate when
you're at protest.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Look, I love ty Shirt, but if he's just gonna
play these songs every single night, we gotta have a conversation.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
Well, I'm STI waiting free to have a good take. Wow,
you said.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
That was the deal a long time ago. All right,
you want huggins. You see all the shows during the
day list of other shows right here there. It's the
same thing we say. I mean, it's fair except the
next day after Okay, just so you know, just except
for the truly and outrageous things like that. Really, I
like the way that was said right there.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
I just don't know what to do with my fore
shirts I'm making Jason, Now.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Get those fours up.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
They're going to be huge in third world countries.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
They'll be the ones that they send out like the
all the Buffalo Bills Super Bowl champs from the nineties. Yeah,
this year's Jets just no, come on, man, dude, if
we make it already doing the towel on the whole season,
You think we didn't see that story.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
I know you don't want to hit it.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
No, we told us we're not allowed to talk about it,
but talking about what you guys already canceled Mini camp
next week.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
They just said it's not even worth it.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
Even the White Flower see it. We can't even hold
mini camp.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
We don't need it. We don't need it. We're good.
We got so much out of OTEM load management. We
don't need it.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
Has come or Aaron Rodgers just said, Hey, you want
to rethink this?
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Yeah, no, you're absolutely. I have an Iahwasca retreat next week.
I scheduled it long ago, and I'm bringing the whole team.
We're all going to be in a darkness retreat next week.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
All of us.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
We're gonna have the good stuff, so we can tell
each other our deepest, darkest secrets and bond.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
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to one lead in the NBA Finals, they absolutely dismantle
(17:27):
the heat one oh nine ninety four. Nikola Jokic first
ever thirty, twenty and ten triple double in NBA Finals history,
had a triple double from Jamal Murray as well at
thirty four, ten and ten. The Nuggets were never in
any danger in the second half. And look, we've heard
a lot about heat culture and heat culture and heat culture.
(17:47):
I want to throw it because all heat culture is,
and this is how you beat it. If you're the
Denver Nuggets, all heat culture is is we play hard
all the time. That's heat culture. It should be every
team's culture, but it's not. We play hard all the time.
An eight seed should not be in the NBA Finals,
but they're here. Why because well, you get hot. You
(18:09):
get hot. But the Milwaukee injuries and everything else can
come right. But go through things because you had the
heat added. Well, they're still missing Tyler Hero, right, so
you go again. Culture, next man up. It should be
a very easy thing. Heat culture should be every team's
culture because not quitting and giving the effort needed should
be something that is second nature. It's something you learn
(18:31):
when you first start playing youth sports. I can't can't
control effort. You gotta give you the effort. Okay, effort,
but we still see teams not giving the effort. The
Celtics ultimately gave effort in the Eastern Conference Finals. The
Nuggets were blasted by their head coach after Game two
for not giving an effort. It's the NBA Finals and
you're talking about we're not giving an effort. But the heat.
(18:53):
That's heat culture. They don't give up. There's never a
game they're out of. They're going to always try to
shoot their way back into it. That should be every team,
but it's not. The Knicks weren't that way, the Bucks
weren't that way. They were questioning what was going on
and they didn't know what, Buttenholzer was calling. So you know,
they didn't feel the sense of urgency and they weren't together.
But the Heat have that message. They believe in Eric Spolstra.
(19:15):
They go out and they don't have any memory if
they're winning by fifteen or down by fifteen. They play
this same membory of the goldfish man. Come on now,
they play that. That's Heat culture. And how do you
demolish the Heat culture by just putting out the effort
you need when you're a more talented team. And the
Denver Nuggets are a more talented team.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
They are.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
They are a more talented team top to bottom of
the Miami Heat. And when they got that game we
talked about a few minutes ago, Game two wasn't a
hey we have an we have an NBA Finals game,
Hey we got a series now. No, this was the
wake up call that the Nuggets needed. And when the Nuggets,
with their talent, can put on display, Okay, we understand
we can't cruise anymore. We've been cruising through most of
(19:58):
the playoffs games like tonight one O nine to ninety four.
It's why this seri is gonna end in five. The
Nuggets had the wake up call the win Game four,
the win Game five, the NBA champion.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
To be fair, they they did start to look like
the team of Game one. Down the stretch, right, we
got to ten and the Heat had the ball. Yeah, yeah,
Now they were only a couple of minutes left, and
we see how it ends.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
But they push it back out to fifteen. They didn't
hold on to win by six. They push it back.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Oh that's fine, right, It's it's one or two baskets
either way. But it's it's just the idea that you'll
you'll let them back in once again. Uh. And in
this case, you had a fourth quarter that the Nuggets
actually win by a point. That's all finding good. Yeah,
it's the old If everybody did it, it'd be easy.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Right.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Common sense isn't so common? Is a phrase you hear
quite often. Right, the little things that you should do.
The eighty percent is showing up. I've always hated that philosophy.
I want a little more effort than that. But forty
eight minutes and staying healthy, all of those things. It's
it's a difficult proposition to run through a season, to
(21:05):
stay motivated, to stay locked in. Michael Malone, it's pretty
clear when he was calling out effort he did everything
but call out the jersey numbers of the two or
three players. He really meant that four In game two, Uh,
looking at you, Contavious called he was the main offender.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
As related to he did nothing.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
Him and Michael Porter Junior did nothing.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
To Michael Porter Junior has been invisible. Now Casep got
in early foul trouble. But for him in the prior games,
he had those defensive lapses, which why you saw more Braun.
I mean you see more of him where he's running
up and down like a man with his hair on fire,
like I'm in the NBA finals.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
Man, you watch a.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Christian Braun player going, how is Kansas not didn't how
do they not win like three championships in a row?
Speaker 3 (21:53):
Well, that's why I don't pick it. I don't pick
Bill self anymore. That great when I when I don't
pick him is when he went. But it's just the
idea of you got a guy that from an effort perspective.
You saw the minutes that he earned with what he
was doing on both ends of the court, trying to
fill up passing lanes, going and diving after loose balls,
all those little things. The margin because you know what
(22:15):
you're getting pretty routinely out of your your top two players, right,
Jokic and Murray are gonna give you a loaded stat sheet.
But what are the rest of the guys doing? And
right now they've they've gotten by with Michael Porter Jr.
Played a good half in Game one. I haven't seen
him really at all ever since KCP was the guy.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
I will identify him for you, Michael Malone.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Effort, effort, I need effort from you, and might as
well have been pointing and staring at him like the
evil monkey coming out of the closet.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
And Family Guy.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Just that's pretty obscure, but I like it.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
Obscure, it shows it up for twenty five years. No,
I like it.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
I like I like one of the great characters of
all time.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
You want to you want to get a Family Guy story.
So I was off last night. There was a big
my daughter at her middle school had the big awards
night for for middle school and they gave out awards
all different kids and the one of the teachers came
was given award for a kid and she says, you
know what I have, And I figure, it's not a rebus?
What what is it called? When you do you have
the person's name up there? And they had a word
(23:24):
for each of them, like like the girl's name was no, no, No.
The girl's name was Carmen. She goes C for class
because she was full of class all year. A was
for attendance. What do they call that when you have
a word and an achronist acrosstic across acrosstic. Yeah, that
sounds right, So something I haven't used in my daily
(23:46):
and across. So it was an A, you know, and
and and and the M is.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
First of each new line spells out a word, message
or alphabet.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Yeah, so the teachers and it's a huge auditorium, right,
it's a huge auditorium. So the teachers all the way
in the front and I'm kind of sitting in the
back a little bit. And she was, you know, I
haven't an acrosstic for this next person. I'm going to
talk about the letters that come up. And and the
middle letter because name was Carmen, uh is an R.
And so she goes see for class. She came to class.
(24:14):
She was always prepared. She did this, she did that
a her attendance. She didn't miss the class all year.
It was fantastic, and she goes are and she pauses
to like turn the page over. She says are and
someone goes is for Robert Loja. Yes, I don't think
everybody heard all the way in the front, but.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
I want to go have a beer with that time
right now.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
I was mad that I wasn't that you weren't the guy,
but it was somebody that I knew, Like I knew
it's one of the girls like coaching soccer for a
long time. So I'm like, I'm not gonna because I
right away she's doing all the things C and A
A R R for Robert Loja that I wanted to
be that guy, wanted to be that guy.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
I know, I truly appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
So we're just watching and Eric Spolstra is talking to
the media right now, so well, he.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Was actually crying He's gonna get mad at somebody. You
know what, I really wanted to kick Ramona out yet he.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
Was very very upset. Guys that ABC zoomed all the
way in on you, Danis Hazelm's head was very unfair.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
They did they move in on that. I would want
to I want to raise my hand and go hey,
coach Jays Smith, Fox Sports Radio Hey, so, boy, you
couldn't turn Nicole into a scorer? How boy, he just
did everything? Wow, you know you're right. Like you said
the other day, you didn't like the question. You thought
it was a bad line of questioning. It was untrained eye.
But boy, tonight, so you're right. Your trained eye from
(25:34):
my media pulpit says your philosophy of letting him do
whatever he wants to. Boy, he beat the crap out
of you guys by fifteen. You couldn't stop him from scoring.
You couldn't keep him off the glass, couldn't keep from
setting up past you. You know you're right, you're right.
Not turning him into a score that was that was
the right move. Now letting him do all of this
and not stopping him that was great. Man. Can you
tell us why you did that?
Speaker 3 (25:54):
How about you think outside the box and ask a
question about Christian Brawn.
Speaker 4 (25:58):
It just blow his mind? You know?
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Would he fit in your heat culture with the amount
of effort he brings in between the white lines? He
looks like he really wants it every time down the court.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Hey, coach Spoe, I'm gonna see my time to Ramona
Shelburn and let her ask a question of you right
now so she can answer quse. I think she wants
to ask you about the old turning Yokichen too, his
score thing.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Hey, I spy with my untrained eye, unbelieved.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
What do you think of what's going on with Zion Williamson? Hey,
you know one thing, we know, Zion's not that injured.
I don't know, literally, I don't think Zion's that injured.
I mean, the hammies and blots are firing. So let's
get him back.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
Out on a court.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
You know, it doesn't look like things are that best,
So maybe he's going to play at some point soon.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
Oh, we know his saliva is up, so that's good.
He's been playing all right?
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Uh No.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with mom best
friend Mike Harmon. I'm gonna ask man true live from
the Tirak dot Com studios. We got Rick Buker coming
up in about a half hour to break down Game
three of the finals.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
Does he see a way forward for the heat? It's
a series over?
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Is Nikola Yokich putting together the most dominant NBA finals
we've ever seen, and you're.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
Gonna start singing there's no way out, no way out.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
But for a few minutes here, I am positive I
can shed some light on all the controversy surrounding the
PGA Tour Live Golf quote merger that's going to happen,
right The surprise headline from a day ago that the
whole PGA Tour versus Live Golf everything going on. No, now,
(27:43):
we're all gonna be one happy family. Now we're all
gonna be together in one big world tour. Now we're
still waiting to see exactly how it's going to go.
We'll live golf actually still be a presence. Will it
get folded in is it's still gonna be called the
PGA Tour. But they're all gonna be together.
Speaker 4 (27:59):
All the hate we all had of hate nut now
that we're all.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Gonna be together. Right back to my pragmatist view of
the world exactly right now, there's a lot of upset golfers.
Rory McElroy very upset, who said, I feel like the
sacrificial lamb. I still hate live golf. There's a lot
of golfers who hate it. There's a lot of golfers
who stuck, stuck with the PGA Tour when they could
have gone to make money. They're upset that these golfers
who left were able to come back and just walk
(28:25):
right back in. Now time will tell if they're allowed
to walk back in, and it's actually what it's going
to be. But I get there are people who are
upset because these guys left. They left a great tour
to go for a money grab. They got their money,
and now look, what would I tell you? Within a
year they're gonna want to come back. And here now
they're all getting But here's the thing. It was it about.
(28:46):
There's a lot, a lot of tentacles to this thing.
But were the golfers necessarily saying, please, can we come back?
Because if their checks were cashing?
Speaker 3 (28:56):
I mean, I think I'm still cool, so I still
bagged my hundred twenty five million guarantee that I'm feeling okay.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Yeah, but for now. But like like I like I've
said for the longest time, how long were the Saudis
going to be interested in cutting all these big checks
when no one's watching on television, no one cares. How
long would it go. It would be eventually they would
lose interest and then that's where it would happen.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Well, but then it becomes a question of are you
okay with Hey, I got a giant satchel of money, yeah,
and I can move on to the next phase of
my life.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
But why did this happen?
Speaker 4 (29:28):
Why?
Speaker 1 (29:29):
And everybody is mad at j Monahan that the director
of the PGA Tour. A lot of golfers want him out.
I understand that, I get all of it. I understand
why they were upset that there was this was a
negotiation that was happening under cover of night. The golfers
didn't know that this was happening. And now we reach
an agreement. I will I'm gonna guarantee you this because
like Denzel, watch it in for move and I'll guarantee
you this. I will guarantee you this. The PGA Tour
(29:52):
was in trouble because they would not have gone to
this extent to fold in ensure the future that they
needed unless they had to. They hated the live tour.
They wanted to Live Tour out of business. They understood
as much as it was, look, we increase purses, we
did all of these things. The PGA Tour was in
trouble because everything is done for money, and if the
(30:13):
PGA Tour was doing okay with money, they would have
seen this out. They would said, no, we'll ride this out.
You're not gonna play here, You're not gonna do this.
But I guarantee you they were in trouble, and this
was a way to ensure the future that everybody stays
and maybe the PGA Tour stays at the forefront of
golf because of this. But this was a decision that
was made because I have to ensure, and Monahan and
the PGA Tour has to ensure we are still going
(30:35):
to be around and be at presence. This would not
have happened if the tour wasn't in some kind of
financial straits, and I'm sure they weren't well.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
And that extends to the point that I've made in
all of this. We go back to our analysis of
what happened in the case of the NFL and Colin
Kaepernick and so many others since you and I have
been together on the airwaves, and what generally happens at
the eleventh or maybe eleven thirty, maybe it's even close
(31:04):
to midnight there's always a settlement or hey, let's talk
about this. And that's what we're talking about here, is
as you get close, because why did all some of
those golfers, not all of them, but some of them
left because they had legitimate, as they said, beef with
the PGA over different things, some of it public, some
of it not. Phil Mickelson and others have had their
(31:28):
say in public time and again. But when stuff's gonna
start coming to light from behind the scenes, and you
know where the bodies are buried. If you've been around
a tour long enough, right, players like Mickelson who've been
going out what twenty three, twenty four years at this point,
there's a lot of institutional knowledge. When you start getting
(31:49):
into discovery of legal things, all the bad stuff finds
its way to the surface, not to mention the accounting
and the financials, and you still have that tax exempt
status that you're desperate to keep because there's a lot
of questions, Wait, you were able to increase purses and
(32:10):
revenues and wait, what how are you still tax exempts?
So those are questions that the PGA might have been
able to at least fend off short term having to
explain or defend that in another circuit, if.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
The PGA Tour was doing fine, they would have moved on.
They would have moved on and it would have been
absolutely fine. But they hit this, and now it makes sense.
It makes sense this would be going on under cover
of night. Why nobody would know about it and no stories. Hey,
PGA to because if it gets out, PGA Tours in trouble.
Guess what, the merger goes a little bit different way,
(32:46):
and things happened differently than they did. Trust me, they
wouldn't have done it if they didn't have to.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
Didn't even trust the guys that were the biggest stands
for you either.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
Coming up next, we got a big deal coming out
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