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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:29):
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Mike Carman, we crowned a champion as the Nuggets won
the NBA title. It looks like we're about four minutes
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away from another as going to the third period, the
Vegas Golden Knights lead the Florida Panthers six to one.
After a four goal second period. The Vegas Golden Knights
are going to be your Stanley Cup champions. And whether
you are a hockey fan or not, this why right.
(01:21):
Whether you knew was happening or not, right doesn't writ
whether you knew that the Stanley Cup final was going
on or not.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
So like knowing how Jokic plays, I mean your business, Yay,
you know.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Certain things people know and they talk about it for
a living and sometimes you got to know a little
bit more. But uh, this is the thing, and this
is where you feel really incredibly happy, but you also
feel unbelievably sad and pissed off at the same time
because five years ago, five years ago, the Golden Knights
(01:51):
had zero players. They had no players, they had no team,
they had no minor league, they had no structure, they
had nothing to have office, they had nothing. They had
absolute loute lean nothing, starting from scratch. And five years
later they have two division titles and are gonna have
a Stanley Cup. And I just sit here and go,
(02:11):
what the blank have the Mets and the Jets been doing?
And I'm not alone And I'm not alone, though I'm
not alone, There's a lot of teams going what the
hell have my team's been doing, while the Golden Knights,
who didn't exist five years ago, didn't exist, are gonna
win a championship. And all those long suffering Golden Knights
fans the last five years, some who went to high
(02:32):
school and are just getting into college as a Golden
Knights fan, they're gonna know that sweet, sweet taste of victory.
What the hell have my team's been doing? Sucking? Well,
mar teams have been sucking to Frostburg.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Okay, I mean, Martinez scoring that goal did not sit.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Wellick alick, but that doesn't. But but you know what
I mean, Yes, okay, but the Lakers did win the Dodgers.
You know what the Chargers haven't? Well, what are the
charge has been doing? Okay, but it goes.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
Back to I think a lot of folks would love
you to dial back how expansion teams get fed in
terms of unrestricted players and unprotected players and everything like that.
I was having this conversation over the weekend's like, well,
how they get good so fast? Like well, one you
get someone who says it, gets bright eyed and says, hey,
(03:19):
I want to build a squad. You get an owner
who's kind of excitable and says, hey, go do what
you're gonna do, and you have some rules that allow
you to pluck probably better players, then you might be
able to otherwise based on cap restrictions, expiring contracts, guys
seemingly aging out, and then you got to make your decisions.
(03:40):
And sometimes that creates a very rich stew where you
can go and perform really quick. Right, it happened in
the NFL.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Rich Stu. Okay, go ahead, got it?
Speaker 4 (03:54):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
You can't say rich Stu and not expect me to
do that. Come on, no, man, you gotta know that.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Yeah. I just watched an episode in between all the
goal barrages of Homer basically doing the forest Gump while
hanging out in New Orleans, of all the different things
he could eat that would satisfy.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
His life, which is great.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
So I was waiting for you to continue along that road.
But it does make for you know, the interesting conversation.
So I mean, right now, you could just say, hey,
you know what we'd like to start over, shuffle it off,
charge us some percentage of what the cap space is
that we lose as a penalty, uh, and we'll we'll
do an entire reselection process.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Reselection process. See you make it sound great, and you
make it sound awesome like you. We could just hit
the reset button and can do it. But my teams
have been trying this my car, but we've been trying
hitting every single button, whether it's reset or something else.
It's hitting all these buttons and none of the buttons work.
But we'll get Flurry here. Hey, they don't want him anymore.
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Here we are stand it comes semi finals, Stanley Cup Final.
Oh hey, we're gonna win yet, I'd come on, man, really, look,
I'm happy for the Golden Knights. But at the same time,
the overwhelming emotion is, what the hell, man, how do
you start from zero and win? And other teams that
have been established with players in the pipeline that have
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had first round picks for.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Years and years, you've got no bad institutional knowledge to
screw you. Right with the Jets, you've got fifty years
of misery and you're never able to do a complete
hard reboot to where you kill off any germs of
the past. I mean nothing that you're doing with Kyrie
Irving in the sage brush. That's only getting some of
(05:42):
the surface level stuff. I mean, the rest of it
is organizational institutional No matter how many times you change
out your GMS and your football personnel guys, in some
cases your training staff. We've talked about Jerry Jones and Dallas.
They had their wins, they had their excitement. Now you've
(06:03):
got a bad owner problem. So some of those things
you can't excise quite so easily. So for the Vegas
Golden Knights, I think for all of us, it's one
of those we pause as sports fans and if you're
not and someone's forced you to listen to us, HI
welcome in tune it in the iHeartRadio app, wherever you go.
You'll love us forever and ever. There's no question about it.
(06:25):
But in each of our lives, isn't there something you
wish you could do? A hard reboot?
Speaker 1 (06:30):
This is what they were able to do many things.
When when nine years ago, nine years ago, go back
and go, hey, how do you think you and Mike
Harmon would do together? I would redo that in a second. No,
I'm just kidding, buddy, I wouldn't do that. Well, it
was really kind.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
I mean, I mean, well, possibly, No, there's lots of
Fabiano in here or one of your other jackass buddies.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
I know, No, be it but would have been it
would have been me and Buck Showalter, and that would
have been the show.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Well, I mean, it would have saved you from what
you're currently experiencing. Although he didn't scout the players signed
them to hundreds of millions of dollars of guaranteed money.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
That's not his fault. You can't blame him. Hard reboot,
Hard reboot, Buddy hard reboot, The Jason reboot probably won't
even help you though, right, Uh oh no, probably not
screw up a reboot. No one, Now we're fine. Now
we have Aaron Rodgers. We're fine.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
Out you already lost it. Chuck Clark, the guy was
a damn iron man. It's the for his NFL career
and boom, now he becomes a Jet.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, that's gonna happen. That's how cool. Yes,
the Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon. It really it
is just what like, what the hell of your team's
been doing?
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (07:35):
The end of your first year? Discover credit cards automatically
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while there's that bit of you know, I would say
sports misery, but that's okay because.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
Well, but it's a victory. I mean, we get to
crown another champion. My apologies to Alec Martinez. I used
to see him at the daycare centers in the South Bay,
so I apologize.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
I was trying to when he was a kid there
when he was picking up his kid. Oh okay, I
thought you saw him there last like when he was like,
we was a kid.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
Three time Cup winner again and Jonathan Quick that's right, sure, champion.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
We have that. And now we also have, as you mentioned,
the Marquee MLB series of this next couple of days,
got the Subway series Mets and Yankees. Now we are
going to have the reverse boycott. Details on that coming
up in a few minutes because that's just so unbelievably awesome.
But Mets and the Yankees going at it right now.
Yankees lead the Mets seven to six. Mets have the
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bases loaded with one out in the bottom of the
eighth inning, and there is a pitching change coming up,
but yet another start where Max Schurzer just gets tattooed.
And what did I tell you? You know this is
the thing I said, Hey, I love the match, I
love Verlander, I love Schurezer. But what did I say
the beginning of the year. When you get old, you
get old overnight. It's not a slow process. It's not Hey,
(08:58):
we're going gentle into that good night, and I'll still
gonna have some big nights. No, when you get old,
you get old right away. And Max Schurzer has gotten stomped,
and Verlander has gotten stomped, and I'm sitting here tonight
going we can't even trade these guys of the deadline
because they're owed too much money, and Nick can't get
anybody out, and so now it seems like it's ten
(09:18):
years until the end of their contracts, which are really
the end of next year. But I'm like, oh my goodness,
it's seventy five million dollars going to guys that can't
get anybody out because they got old overnight. It's my one.
It was the one, fear boy. When you get old,
you're lying on a lot of guys that are thirty nine,
forty years old to thirty five years old. Marte and Cannon,
all these guys, but the Pitchers, especially the top two guys,
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and you expect these two to be the difference in
your team, and they can't get anybody out and they
can't even pitch remotely like they used to. I'm not
saying Justin Verlander has to be another cy Young Award winner,
but he's got to have something close to it. And
I'm not saying Max Schurz has got to be the
guy he was five years ago, but he's got to
be something close to what he was last year. And
he just isn't. And and whether it's it's in his head
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or it's happened since he got caught with the rosen bag,
and it happened to another Mets pitcher tonight, Drew Smith
got thrown out of the game because his hand was
too sticky. So apparently this is the thing.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
Now we did not get to wash it five times.
I don't know the look we can equate this to
so many other things in our society. I'll tell where
you're like, did he not get equal treatment? Why are
we not going after the other picture the same way
they did the same thing. Hey, he got caught.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
You get old, You get old overnight. And that's what's happened.
And that's why I look at this going this is
gonna be one of those mets heres where everybody they're
gonna have embarrassed, like three, at least three or four
really big embarrassing headlines between now and the middle of
August when NFL teams start coming back and we start
talking about them, I've got three or four really embarrassing
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headlines we're going to get.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
Yeahs as it stands, I mean, batting two forty as
a team ain't helping you. No, No, middle of the
pack runs scored, doesn't help, ain't gonna help you.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Nothing helps nothing.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
No, you know, I'm just trying. I don't want to
put it all on the pictures because like we're looking
at the dodge.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Yeah, but dude, no, come on, when you're getting paid
thirty five million dollars a year, it's got to be
better than this, right. I mean, you're the ones to
carry your.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
Body well, at some point your body starts to break down.
It's not their fault. It's like everybody the greatest busts
of all time. It's not his fault. He was drafted
number one, you were still Hey, I'm not saying it's
one person's fault. There are many people that he made
this happen. That responsible for this. I just man. They said,
do you want a lot of money? He's he held
his hand to keep it from shaking too much, so
(11:35):
the signature was legible, and he signed it and he
got his money.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
There were many many people that have made this possible.
Owns a dummy, No, listen, that's the one part is
that he'll just keep spending more money next year. But
it's like, all right, but but we gave these guys
are supposed to be great. These guys are supposed to
be some what good said their entire careers up until
we got them. Harman and I told you months ago
that they're washed up, that they were.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
You did not.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
You did not, So we were saying that, Hey, we
were looking out for you. You say that about everybody. You
said that about Sauce Gardener.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
Come on, man, can I be selling that on the internet?
How to play like a champion cornerback? Like me?
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Twitter At? How about a Fresca? Mike gets swallen down
the Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Army.
This is your season right here, Jess. It is yes,
it is our season one out and there's no Alonzo
on deck. Because he's hurt. So, yeah, this is it.
This is the season three and two part.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
That doesn't help you in this problem.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
No, no, no, Alonzo being out wearing a wearing like
a cast on his on his hand like he was
yesterday when he was doing a charity appearance, I'm like,
that's not good, man, that's a bad optic. You're wearing
a cast and you're leading the league in home runs
at RBIs. Yeah, no, it's it's not it's not good.
None of it is good. And of course Lindor just
stripes out swinging. So now there's two outs in the
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bottom of the eight and Lindor, I mean, you know, listen,
at this point, I'm like, let's get rid of everybody,
because Lindor I'm not looking forward to paying him three
hundred million dollars the next ten years to watch him
at two ten, which is exactly what he's doing. That
was a meatball too, I mean that was I mean,
that's a pitch you gotta handle. If you're him, you
got to handle that. And you're h that is one job, ja,
(13:18):
that is I mean, that's where I'm not gonna walk in.
I just have to not walk in the tying run.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
No, you're just gonna feel better if it all goes
to hell. No small component part. Look all they just
need to be interesting enough to get you into training camp. Well, listen,
as soon as we hit the end of July, you're
not gonna give a damn about the mess if I know.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
But here's the thing. If it does go to hell,
I wanted to go to Hell fast so I can
start coming back from Hell like I if I point.
I don't want spiraling fast. I don't want a slow
boat to Hell. Why do you know I don't want that.
I would rather have a fast boat.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
You're not going across the river from the Fox Sports Dad.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
You just crossed the river sticks lay Well, I want
to get there fast. I want to I want to go.
I want to get no connecting flights. I want to
get there one of those super jumbo jets. I want
to get there. That's how fast, and that's how fast
it's gonna happen. Uh so yeah, So here's what's happening
right now. Mets and the Yankees, bottom of the eighth,
Starling Marte with a two and one count. Now it's
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two and two. I know he's gonna wave at a change. Here,
here's the thing I'm gonna say. I'll tell exactly what's
gonna happen. It's two and two. He's going to wave
at a breaking pitch at least a foot and a
half out of the strike zone to strike out. That's
exactly what he's He's gonna pull his head out and
he's gonna wave at a breaking pitch that's outside that
he can't handle. That's exactly how this endings go.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
Well, you were kind of hoping he'd pull his head
out to be ready for the bat.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
All right, So so he fouled a pitch off. Now,
so it's so it's two and two, he said, play
by No, it's after it happened. So strike out, and
he set him up with an inside fastball. Right, he
set him up with an inside fastball. Now at two
and two, here comes here comes a curve in the dirt,
and he's gonna wave at it, and he's gonna add
weight like me waving to you like bye bye to
(14:59):
the season. That's exactly what's going to happen right now
here it is. I'll tell you trust me so long
I know I've seen this guy.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
Doo Doo farewell to you and you and you and you.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
You know, I'm driving around today going to pick up lunch.
I guess where we went for lunch? Where's that McDonald's
you did so well? Yeah? Well because my daughter, No, no,
because my daughter was gonna have you.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
Tried to fool me like it was the Magic Johnson
Twitter game? Is that true?
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Guess we went to? We went to salad zr Us.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
No, so we go there or take the field.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
So I was going to McDonald's because I was picking
up lunch because my daughter was having her best friend
over and they both wanted McDonald's for lunch. Like, yeah,
I'll go get it. And of course I'll get McDonald's
for myself. So I'm driving around and I'm flipping around
the station, and I turn on the eighty station and
I really I was gonna call Tay Shirt just to
curse him out, because I think it was where the
lead singer of Tears for Fears was doing like an
(16:10):
hour as a guest. You know, like I because but
he was talking a lot, and I'm going, is he
doing an hour? Is like a guest? What am I
doing listening to this? And I turned right off and
I never turned back to see what. I almost called
you to say, Hey, if you want to listen, I
think your guy is on you know XM right now
doing an hour of being a guest DJ like they do. Now,
did you not know shirt DJ's ladies? No, No, you
(16:35):
know what you're doing that once in a while? Is Rich Davis?
Can I say that? I mean I don't. I mean
he's on the air. I can hear him do it? No,
I hear him on like on the weekends. Like that's
like a great thing because I guarantee that's now. I
don't know this, but I'm sure it's a Hey, I'm
gonna voice track this show and it'll take me fifteen minutes.
And I can voice track a three hour show and
I'm dude, I want in man. No, that's how it's
(16:57):
done now.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
I mean I could program radio show with some of
the greatest music a lot of people have never heard.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Well, I don't think they'd let you program it. They'd
let you talk. I think they'd pick the songs, and
I think they'd let you pick. I don't get to collaborate, No,
because you'd be the worst DJ ever, because you would
play thirty seconds of every song and then change the
next song. You'd be the worst DJ ever.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
Really supportive Tuesday night here on Fox Sports. Wellsty I appreciate.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Buddy, Buddy, I'm trying to say all the.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
Love and appreciation. I mean, you play a song.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
That people like, Wow, Why why is he change it
after thirty seconds? He's bored? Where that he wants a
new song.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
I want you to hear as many samples and great
stuff that I can possibly bring you. You know what
this commercial, I'm gonna cut that and have to.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Wait, wait a minute, what do you do? Yeah, I'm
done with that commercial. I want to hear another commercial.
I got bored but that. No, but that, but because
I'm glad you see, that's the whole thing is is
you're admitting to the problem you have that you can't
listen to a whole song.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
Now, I can't regular rude.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
I have never been in the car with you or
you have left one song on for the entirety of
the song, ninety seconds go by and you're done.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
We listened to the entirety of a live version of Coma.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
We did. Don't try to tell me that that didn't No, no, no,
you know because I didn't. I didn't listen. I didn't listen.
I was in a coma when you played that song,
so you have to listen to it. No, no, no,
there was no listening going on when you put Coma on.
But it's like ninety seconds, next one, next one, next one.
Just let's hear those song. No no, no, no no,
they're getting the lyrics you didn't like or whatever it was.
(18:30):
You know, Hey, I don't like the part when Brenda
and Eddie get divorced and see hees an Italian restaurant.
Let's get to the next I like it.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
That really does affect me emotionally. I mean, the weight
of that part of the song really does affect me,
and I'm sure many other people.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Yes, hey, sorry spoiler alert. Brenda and Eddie do get divorced,
but they part the closest to friends. Well, first a
bottle of red, bottle white, then a bottle of white,
bottle of red. That's what they do. That's how come
you call me? I would have put you on air
with me. I would I would never call hey, Kaig
the Tears for Fears got no, no, I'm not gonna
do it. That would be my name. Not gonna do it,
not gonna do it.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
And here's Tears for Fear guy, he's gonna take.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
It, you know, you know, just for a second. I
love when when people win those contests and they get
to be like the guest DJs and and they talk
like this, Hi, I'm I'm your guest DJ. Jim Jimmelson.
I'm very excited to be here playing all my favorite
heavy metal music for you. One of my favorite bands
(19:29):
is Anthrax. So here's a song from their Fistful of
Metal album, a cover of an old Alice Cooper song.
I'm eighteen here on XM Radio sounds about as excited
as the Golden Knights played by Peg. It was the
same guy, same du same day, supposed to yesterday again,
the Nuggets guy telling you, hey, you're ready to die? Well,
(19:50):
that was at least that was emotional tonight with the
Vegas Golden Knights.
Speaker 5 (19:53):
Yeah we won. We've been around five years. We said,
you know, look, this is Vegas. This is like the
seventh most important thing happening in the city tonight. All right,
just so you know, Vegas winning the Stanley Cup. Yeah,
we still got some things that are bigger, So you
know that's where we're at.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
But head over for a shpe and the greatest haul
of oats cover band you'll ever see.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Hey, if the Vegas Golden Knights win the Stanley Cup,
get a free shrimp cocktail here at the Uh how
about a Nicola yokach hot take. Let's about to have
Nicola Yoka take. Trade him? Uh no, no, no, trade
him to the next No, no, no.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
You get what you needed out of him. He's done.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
How much of Jokich's behavior after winning the NBA title
is genuine and how much of it is forced? And
and him putting on an image because watching him after
they win the NBA Championship, I look at him, and
(20:55):
I look at the back and forth between his alternately
excited for celebrating and then not, and it's almost like
he went over the top to show that, Hey, I'm
not as excited as you think I should be. When
he had moments of sheer excitement tackling Jamal Murray and
throwing him in the pool, extremely excited.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
That's happened potentially problematic too.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Right, well, ye, because it was a small pool. I
was worried that's a very small small going to hit ahead.
But they didn't. They they were fine. If he had
his wallet on him, or it was more important than
you can go in your while, you'll be okay.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
Well, I mean, if you're to believe his persona from
his presser, he doesn't want that phone. He doesn't want
to have to return all the messages.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
No, I mean, look, Jokic wins, and you're winning a championship,
and and and forget for a second. Oh yo, Kic
is a different dude. Hang on, He's been here for
quite a while, right, He's been playing trying to win
a championship for years. Yes, he's getting paid, he's getting
a lot of money, but his entire team, they're all
trying to win a championship. Right after it's over, he
(21:56):
doesn't celebrate with his team. He goes, he shakes hands
with everybody on the okay move. Then he gets excited
and he's throwing Jamal Murray in the pool. Okay great.
Then he goes to the postgame press conference and he
says he's not excited about winning. He wants to go home.
He's asked about the parade. Are you excited about the parade?
Not really, I want to go home. Are you getting
(22:17):
phone calls? Yes, I'm getting concraduatory phone calls, but I'm
not gonna answer. I feel like he is pushing an
image of I want you to see me as the
irreverent winner. I'm not like everybody else. I want to
share that this is what I'm like, that winning and
losing is. You know, I can treat both of those
imposters the same, like they say in the poem. But
(22:38):
I feel like he's going overboarded a little bit of yeah,
I'm really not that excited, not excited with the big
champagne spray. I'm like, dude, you want a championship man.
Your teammates are all really bleep and excited, the fans
are all really bleep and excited, and this is how
you act. It's a little too much of hey, I'm
really not into it, especially when you show me you
were into it a little bit. Now suddenly you're not
(22:59):
into it. I feel like I'm trying to push this brand,
in this image out there that this is kind of
who I am. I want you to feel like I'm
the irreverent winner and instead of someone who, hey, just
go and be natural and celebrate. Yeah. I get you're tired.
Everybody's tired, but everybody else on the team, Hey, they're
excited to win a championship, and you should be excited
to win a championship too. Otherwise, why are you playing?
(23:20):
If you're not playing to win a championship, why are
you excited? And the fact that he gave us the
excitement again, I'm gonna go back to that. If he
was the one note all the way through, I would say, Okay,
that's just kind of nah. But he was excited a
couple of times and then oh hey when the cameras
were on, When the cameras were on him, he went
out of his way to show Yeah, no, I'm really nay.
Winning is just it's just I feel like that's the
image he wants out there. I want people to think
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of me this way, So I'm going to put this
out there. It's not as genuine as we think it
would be, or people want to make excuses for the
guys saying, oh, that's just who he is. No, a
lot of I think a decent amount of disingenuousness from
that right.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
There, It's okay to be the little kidd. You know
that everybody has the pictures of that wasn't gonna make
it all the stories. Here's the picture of him from
all those years ago in Serbia wearing a Nuggets jersey.
So are we really doing this now? So Lebron gets
to go play in Cleveland, he plays in Denver where
he had this ragtag jersey from all these years ago,
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and now when Benyama gets to go play with Popovich,
you know, because the French they love the Spurs because
of Tony Parker.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
And everything else.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
What are we doing here? There's me being my fake
fake outrage. See I'm ready for my close up skip.
But the idea is that you've got a guy who
even channeled his Yannis in his speech, right, the steps
and pushing forward and all those so giving you pragmatic
and disaffected or kind of put off by anything but
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the work. And then unfortunately the cameras follow you the
full length of time after right, because you get equal
praise showing love to all the heat players and coaches
before celebrating. Wow, lookout, professional and dignified and everything else,
and then he takes Jamal Murray out with the tackle
to the pool, much like the golfer that got run
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by the security guy when he tried to pop a
bottle of champagne last Sunday. All of those things that
flow together, and it's I guess we just say it's
the wave of emotions, but certainly trying to show the media. Hey,
you know what, I'm a heady guy. This is what
I'm all about.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Embrace it. Be the big, goofy kid.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
If that's who you are, right, if it's you and
your brothers and the signs and everything you do with
your kid, that's all fine and good. Embrace it. People
want to love you now, your front and center, right.
The people on the national broadcast didn't know who the
hell you were two weeks ago. Embrace the love. Let
him know who you really are. If you're big and
you're gonna jump around and be excitable, don't be the
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oh what a you know what an imposition this is? Yeah,
I think it's kind of false. I would agree with
you there, but you know what, they both play for
the media the same way. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Look, and everybody, everybody's looking for an angle and That's
the way sports, right. All stars want an angle. They
all want to find a way to cut through right,
no matter what. And Yokich is someone who the general
I don't want to say the general NBA fan, but
the general sports fan. I would say, No, it's just
a little bit about him. Now, the average NBA you
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know tons about Nicola Jokic, and you know what stands apart.
How does he stand apart from everybody? And he stands
apart by in winning. This is how I react. I'm
not going to be you know, he's the one guy
in the last fifty years. Then after they win a championship,
is like, yeah, yeah, I'm not excited about the parade.
I'm not excited about this. I want to go home.
I'm not excited about the champagne. Oh I'm excited to
(26:52):
throw Jamal Murray in the pool. That's cool, and I'm
excited about you have. But the rest of it, now,
when the cameras are there, When the cameras are there,
that's how I act. Because I guarantee you he didn't
know if the cameras were there when he threw Jamal
Murray in the pool. Everything else, he knew the cameras
were on him, the interviews at the end of the game.
I mean, maybe Lisa Salters didn't want to give her
anything because she didn't know who he was. But the
interviews at the end of the game on TV everything
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he knew, and that's what he wanted to put out there.
It's like, really, really, you want a championship? Why are
you playing if this is just how you feel? No,
I'm done, it's I'm ready to go. It's a chort,
oh sor it's such a chort to win an NBA championship.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
No.
Speaker 4 (27:26):
As we talked about last night, though, I kind of
dig that persona of Hey, the job's done, I'm gonna
go home, I'm gonna ride my horses. I'm gonna hang
out with my brothers, my family, and my farm until
it's time to work again. I kind of dig that.
And that's what a lot of his teammates had been
saying throughout this process and certainly in their post championship conversations.
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And that's who he is. He's a simple guy and
that's what he wants to do, and the two can coexist.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
But hey, when his brothers picked him up after that,
which I can't believe you. You talk about his brothers
picking up a guy that goes six eleven, two seventy.
He was excited, then he's excited. What ither staking up?
Jumping up and down? I mean, you know we all.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
We all wear masks, jacks, trying to be who we are,
you know in certain things. I mean, you know you're
not the same guy all the time. I'm sure as
hell not the same.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Yeah, But after I win a championship in sports, what
I've been building with my teammates and I've been building
towards for years, you.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
Would have been the guy giant champagne bottle and tried
to drink it all yourself.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
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Speaker 1 (28:37):
But you want to talk about problems, One Super Bowl
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Speaker 3 (28:54):
What's going on? Gentlemen?
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Every buddy I have you know here whenever something bad
happens for my baseball team, just remember well we have
Aaron Rodgers and that's what's important. So I'm feeling good
about that.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
Yeah, yeah, that'll be a fun three week ride both
that while you got it.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Yeah, well, you know, maybe now the Bills aren't going
to have Stefan Diggs after all the drama that he
was at He was at Mini camp, but he wasn't
at Mini camp, and Sean McDermott is very concerned that
he wasn't on the field today. This is a big
headline today. What's going on here?
Speaker 3 (29:24):
Well, I think it's a big headline because it shoot
thirteenth and it's one thing when you can get fined,
you know whatever, forty fifty thousand dollars. It's another thing
when you start losing game checks and defaulting on contracts
and missing games and stuff like that. Stefan Diggs is
sending the message. And look, do I think he's going
(29:45):
to get a massive new payday. I don't. The Bills
and their GM Brandon Bean are making it pretty clear
that like you know, we've we've spent a lot of money.
We've run up a big credit card bill and we
don't have as much cash and cap flexibilities we had
in the path, certainly Stefon Diggs and that extension he
signed after that trade. It looks team friendly at this
(30:09):
point in time, but that's what happens when you play
a few years and do an extension and you play
through your guarantees and your upfront money. Look, I still
think there's a way they can massage this, they can
incentivize it, they can sweeten the pot a little bit
with some attainable incentives. You know, we had the whole
Alston Eckward situation. And while you can't compare a top
(30:31):
flight running back to top flight wide receiver just because
supply and demand is different at the positions, Like I
have a hard time thinking that Stefon Diggs isn't there
in training camp. Is he going to be the happiest
guy in the world. Maybe not. Again, I don't think
he's going to get everything he wants financially here. But
I also with the way the CBA is constructed, players
(30:51):
really have such little leverage and this is a team
that can do some things. I know some are down
on them, and people seem to want to cast a
side is last year at this time, and you know,
they were everybody's Super Bowl favorite. Now people are telling
me they're not going to win the division. I believe
that when I see it. But yeah, and a little
bit of turmoil there. And look, there are some additions
(31:12):
they wish they that they might have been able to
make this off season that they haven't been able to do.
But who knows. I'm still not totally convinced that Dalvin
Cook doesn't end there because I just don't know that
Dalvin Cook's going to be a guy who catches in
the way he thinks he might.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
Yeah, I was going to say that the running back
position if if Stefan Diggs is mad, just we got
a whole hornet's nest of running backs that are salty
about their deals and not exactly finding that pot of gold.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
No, it's not there. It's not there for sain Kwon Barkley,
it wasn't there for Austin Eckler, It's not going to
be there for Dalvin Cook. It's going to have to
ultimately be about finding that mix of Okay, it's not
great money, it's not what I thought it was going
to be, but it's still good money. You try to
get some individual and team incentives, right, because you're going
to want to approve a year to go somewhere where
(32:00):
you're going to be playing high profile games, You're going
to have a good supporting cast around you. You want
to have all those things in place to help you
maybe reset things to a certain degree. And yeah, I mean,
the winning part makes it a whole lot more fun. Right.
If you're not making what you thought you're going to make,
at least go there and do it somewhere where you're
winning football games. You've a chance to get playoff checks
and playoff and sentence, you know, versus being whatever on
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a six win team.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Where do you think Dalvin Cook ends up?
Speaker 3 (32:28):
I mean, I don't rule out Buffalo, and I get
it they're trying to manage their fan bases expectations and
that's smart. But I mean I look around and I
don't you know who's a running back away. I mean,
some people would say Miami, and that would make sense
and he would fit their scheme. But to me, part
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of the whole reason why you bring in that coach
is because he comes from a run scheme where you
know what I mean, you could go from the run
of the Denver Broncos running backs back in the day,
right Mike Anderson to Orlando's Gary to Clinton Ports to
whoever else, and it's still top knots production. I mean,
right he moster when he's healthy, is are super effective
(33:12):
back in that system. And even last year they turned
through a bunch of them, you know, and maybe it
wasn't ideal, but I think you should talking about where
can they exercise value. You should be able to extract
value from your scheme in the run game. Where they
need to save their pennies for I think is to
boost that defense if it's still looking a little short
between now and the trade deadline. You know, I don't
(33:33):
know if they want to go and blow whatever it is,
three million, four million whatever on a running back right
now when that's you know, probably not their biggest need.
So I don't see there being obviously a super robust
market for.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
Him, And.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
He should be in no rush right now because we're
in the absolute lull time of the season. But I
think when he will get around to late July, I'm
not sure that it's going to be markedly different.
Speaker 4 (34:02):
How about DeAndre Hopkins, He's on the tour CNA fest appearance. Hey,
he's just he's barnstorming you.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
You heard how great Jason locking for it feels about DeAndre.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
Hopkins, I don't know, he could be the Knights guy
to show up in Baltimore, Dacostia.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
How do you like? You like him?
Speaker 4 (34:17):
Deal? Do you like them all?
Speaker 3 (34:19):
Yeah? I think that would that that might be, you know,
a little bit of overkill and again softer market than
he thought when you have to repeatedly flirt with Tennessee
who aren't even like they're not like they're basically gonna
punt them this season. I mean, they don't traded Derek Henry,
they eat anything for him. I still think that if
the right offer emerge as a team gets in, a
contending team loses a quarterback, I still think Tannehill's there
(34:42):
for the taking. I mean, it would just be a
really odd thing like a J Brown in his prime
or DeAndre Hopkins now just gruntled again, you know, with
the ped suspension in his back pocket, Like what is
he going to turn them from a four and a
half win team to a five win team? Like I
don't I don't get it, and I'm not convinced that
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Tennessee really wants to spend money. Now, if he again,
if he's got nothing out there, so be it. But
then why would you go there? I'm why would you?
Why would you go there? You know? And I don't know.
I mean, it's not going to be what he thought.
And you go back to the trade scenarios and why
(35:25):
it never materialized. It never materialized in large part because Okay,
he's going to play out his contract. That's one thing.
If he wants to get paid, then I'm not giving
you anything for him to inherent you know, and take
on this problem that we don't know that we're going
to be able to solve because there's some mitigating circumstances
like a suspension history, like a guy hasn't played a
(35:45):
ton of football, like a guy who's getting up there
a little bit. So we'll see.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
Jason lock and for NFL Inside our guest to Jason
Smithcher with Mike Harmon, live from the Tirech dot Com studios.
All right, so we all saw the video this weekend
of Tom Brady on a yacht not going to drone
down with one throw, hitting a guy fifty yards away
in a jet ski with another throw, and he says, ah,
if I do this, I should maybe I should keep
playing now ha ha, that's kind of funny. But I
(36:12):
take away from this Jay that looks like a guy
that's still throwing the football, that's still working out, still
throwing the football, the fact that he can still do
that when supposedly I'm retired on Dnaha. Yeah, I don't
know that he's not still throwing the football, and thinking
maybe if Miami called, maybe if San Francisco gets in
this a little bit of a situation.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Maybe well, I think this whole ownership thing with the
Raiders would have to be you know, if that materializes
any time sooner in season, and that's going to certainly
complicate things. If that's something that doesn't get improved till
next May's owner meetings or whatever or something like that,
then obviously that gives him plenty of runway to play
(36:51):
for whomever he would want this year. I just think
the San Francisco thing has always made sense to me.
It continues to make sense. That team is good enough
that it's not like he'd have to be there day one.
But if it's the middle of the season and they're
still winning that division just because it's not great, but
the offense isn't what they want it to be, and
(37:12):
they're waffling and oscillating from one quarterback to the other,
from series to series or quarter to quarter, game to game.
Then I know how kylsana An thinks. And maybe Tom
Brady is covertly working out, you know, Like, I don't
think it's going to be like, you know, the old,
good old days where he'd be out at USC or whatever,
you know, with Guerrero and Tom House and the whole
(37:33):
kitting caboodle out there working with all these guys. Like
I would think he'd have to keep it a little
more under wraps because if you do that, then obviously
you know it's it's like it's auction time, game on.
You know where's he going to end up. But I'm not, like,
I am not thaoroughly convinced that he'll never throw an
NFL pass at this point.
Speaker 4 (37:51):
I'm just not never say never again. We'd be remassed
if we didn't have a moment. Since you are out
there in the ball more area in and looking at
those young o's now crushing it with another win over
the Blue Jays tonight, is the town catching fire with that?
Speaker 3 (38:09):
Oh? Absolutely yeah? I mean I think people now believe
and the expectations have been ratcheted up. This team has
played at you know, basically one hundred win pace now
since Adlei Rutchman was recalled last May. They need to
get active at the trade deadline. They need to add
(38:29):
a starting pitcher, maybe a bat as well. I think
they might have to get creative about the ways they
do that because there don't seem to be a whole
lot of obvious sellers right now. This could be a
market where a team like the Guardians who have more
pitching than they need but not enough hitting. You know,
it could be major league for major league trades at
the deadline among you know, teams that are both technically buying.
So they've done a tremendous job overhaul on this thing.
(38:53):
I love what Michael Lias has done. And yeah, people
are super fired up Gunner Henderson and the Grand Slam tonight.
This is legit.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
People more fired up about the Orioles or more fired
up about Odell Beckham in his first practice.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
I think right now, more excited about the Orioles. I mean,
Odell himself today was like, look, I'm not doing a
whole hell of a lot out there.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
You know, I showed up.
Speaker 3 (39:17):
I've been through the Wars. I've only played twenty games
the last three years. I'm not worried about showing out,
you know, for the first day of mini camp in June.
But yes, there is an overall excitement about the potential
for this passing attack in a way that I can't
recall in a long, long time.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
If ever, you can fall him on Twitter at Jason
locking for that is at Jason lock and for check
them out on Odyssey Washington Post as well. Jay is
always buddy. Appreciate it man, gentlemen, we'll talk to you week.
Speaker 4 (39:47):
See about it.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
Orioles Yo