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Now something has hit me, Steve Tosager, and I really
think the a's might be on the sung.
Speaker 5 (00:52):
So now as seriously talked about getting hit, I assume
you were talking about Dodge.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
You're pitching no no, no, no, no, no, wow, No,
I really I mean Dave, Dave Robertson's gonna come out
and he's gonna try to get Fernando and Herscheiser.
Speaker 5 (01:03):
He should pitch himself.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Can you guys come down and I got jerseys for you,
come down at pitch because we can't get anybody out.
Speaker 5 (01:10):
Can I just say this out loud that the Los
Angeles Dodgers, who have five starting pitchers on the injured list,
they are so weak in this category where they has
been a strength for decades. To see what is going
on now. They not only don't have a fifth starter,
it's the bullpen every five days and this is one
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of the worst years they've had from the bullpen.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Yeve, we're getting Otani and.
Speaker 5 (01:34):
The tonight's starter, Michael Grove has just given up his
third home run in three plus innings. This is his
sixth start and his ERA is almost eight and a
half and they are giving him six starts in the rotation.
That is how bad it is. Wow, But so a
good news for Mike Carmon because it's the White Sox
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that are homering three nothing in the fourth in LA.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
We're getting Otani Steve.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
All's good, well, not as long as the Angels are
in contention. If they win tomorrow, that's going to be
forty and thirty two. I think their record. They're not
going to trade him at the deadline. You gotta be kidding.
They just hit another home run at Dodger Stadium. That's
four off this guy. No really, yes, that really just
literally just now.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
And here comes Fernando Vealezuela and to finish off the
fourth inning.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
You know they're playing the White Sox. Can they just
trade for Joe Kelly and get him back at this
point he pitched against the Dodgers at LA last year.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Even even if he wears a Mariachi jacket, I think
that would work.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
I think you can pitch in that yes, exifically man.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Four home runs in the first inning and fourth another
home run from Berger Burger.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
I mean this is wow?
Speaker 5 (02:46):
Yeah, okay, and had three of the four had been
about four hundred feet or more?
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Yeah, hit Frank Thomas.
Speaker 5 (02:52):
Yeah it's the big hurd all right.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
So yeah, so not a great night for the Dodge
so but it's early, you know.
Speaker 5 (03:01):
I'm meaning there could be four more. Oh yeah, you're
not even to the halfway point of this game.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
The White Socks have it ten home runs and here
comes Tom needonfewer to try to put out the fire.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:13):
In other words, this bullpen, especially last months for the Dodgers,
has been so wretched that they really don't care that
the starter's giving up four home runs already.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
At this point, couldn't you bring back Eric Anya? Couldn't
he give you a pump of right now?
Speaker 5 (03:27):
Yeah, Frank Tanana, anybody there who's had some double arm
injuries and has found another way to throw?
Speaker 2 (03:33):
You know?
Speaker 5 (03:34):
Now, Clement's kid at Philadelphia has come in from first
base to pitch a few times this year.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Can they trade that right now? I would take Kimberrel back.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
Yeah, he's having a good moment.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Wait, Craig Kimberl who had three pitch clock violations tonight.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
He had three pitch and a half violations tonight in
one half inning. Oh boy, it's not good.
Speaker 5 (03:57):
This is like a spring training guy where you leave
the kid in just because he needs quote the work.
Oh solid single to left center? This just because is
it gonna end?
Speaker 4 (04:05):
This is like that.
Speaker 5 (04:06):
I hope his family is not in attendance.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
Frankly, it's kind of family. We're gonna It's like in
the in the NFL Draft when.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
Michael Grove, the guy by the way, Hey, we're.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Gonna, We're gonna Uh, we're gonna take you out of
the green room because it's kind of embarrassing you haven't
been picked. It's like they go to the stats, they
find the guy's family. Hey, we're gonna take you away
from the cameras right now. You're gonna watch the game
from from inside and in the This is.
Speaker 5 (04:28):
Like Matt Damon never actually getting on the Jimmy Kimmel Show. Yeah,
they say we ran out of time, that kind of thing,
never actually get to get on stage.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
All four home runs for the White Sox.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
This is what's a nine tonight so far.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
But on the other side, the Dodgers offense hasn't scored
a bit. They're one for ten with six strikeouts.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Yeah, but hey, Dodgers day, Dodger's still playing well better
than anybody thought, right, you thought, right, better than better
than you thought thirty eight and thirty maybe thirty eight
and thirty one. As night, with all the lack of
moves this year, still the Dodgers playing better than you
would have expected.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
Right, Uh, okay in the grand scheme of things, because
the Padres, to say the least, are not running away
with it. So yeah, everyone's still in contention.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
Jason Yeah, what do you got for Frosburg?
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Question for Steve? Steve, what upsets you more the Dodgers'
bullpen right now or the US men's soccer Hi and
Gray Bulder.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
Well, see the US signing. That's a four year mistake.
I don't know how you can get around that.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
But I really think, hang on, I really think we're
onto something, right, because that's the other big story we
get into it.
Speaker 5 (05:36):
If they Era was in the twos as a team
last year, it's four and a half this year.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
There, I'm done. Go ahead.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
If there's another home run by the White Sox, will
bring it to you. But we are at halftime of
the usmn T Mexico semifinals here and we get the
news that Greg Burholter is going to be coming back
as the us m n T head coach. Being reported
by a lot of different entities. They are finalizing the deal,
which just doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Right. We talked about it last hour.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Do you think Steve Christian Policic, who just scored, He's
been everywhere in the first half and against Mexico, he's
been phenomenal. Do you think Polisics goal was a reverse
boycott by the USMNT because they don't want Burrhalter back.
We'll show you. We'll start scoring goals and winning. This
is our reverse boycott.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
Well, you know how sometimes soccer, like you know, the
player just became a father or something, so he scores
the goal and lifts up his jersey and he's got
his message to his newborn or something and the T
shirt underneath. If Polisic had scored here late first half
tonight and then lifted up the jersey and it said
sell and they were trying to somehow a new owner
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of the US national team, that A. I would have
applauded B. That would have been what you're asking for.
By the way, the US outshooting Mexico seven to two
in the first half, the politics score makes it one
nothing at the break with the huge crowd in Vegas.
But this, which is news that broke after kickoff tonight,
over over shadows all of this, This whole tournament this week,
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this final four that's being played in Vegas. It's a downer.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
It is. It is.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Look, and the whole thing with this is that it's
not that Greg Berhalter is a really bad coach.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Right, let's just say that, right, now, right.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
He's not a bad won a lot of games, beat
Mexico a lot of times.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Yeah, he has proven to be someone that when the
United States team was down, he got them. He dusted
them off and picked them back.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
Up, right, like Marty Schottenheimer when they after the Ryan
Leaf thing and San Diego hired a guy who had
proven success as head coach. He can only take them
so far, but he did get them from step A
to B. Right.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Yeah, Look, we had become a periphery top ten, top
sixteen team in the world, which is pretty good.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
Right.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
I mean you're going from ay where I mean, we've
been pretty We've hit the era of soccer right of
soccer here. I feel like in the United States, like
it's now right, like like we've waited a long time,
Like everything is going that way. You have the success
of the MLS, you have the popularity of shows like
Welcome to Wrexham and Ted Lasso, and I feel like
it's it's become it's become the fifth sport, and it's
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it's it's jumping past the NHL in terms of popularity.
It's easier to play as a kid that then than
other sports are. So it really the era of soccer,
like it's it's finally to a point where hey, we
don't have to worry about it coming with No, it's
here and it's in trench now and it's a weird thing.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
Absolutely we've been yeah, yeah, we've been saying when is
it coming? When it's come?
Speaker 1 (08:36):
No, no, no, everybody just take a second, take a second
look around and breathe. It's here, right, Everything else about there, MLA,
all this stuff, the popularity, everything is here. And Burholter
was someone that did exactly what we needed to do.
Was it had gone stale under Klinsmann, but we had
a lot of young talented players coming up, and so
we needed to qualify for the World Cup and get
out a group. And that's exactly what the United States did.
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They got out and they qualified pretty easily. Some nerve
racking moments along the way, but it's not like it
came down to the end. They needed to win and
somebody else did. No, we qualified for the World Cup
pre years.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
They didn't Gaga game in Trinidad and blow their chance.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Yeah, we got out of group and then we were
shown that hey, you guys just don't even deserve to
be deserve to be on the same field as the Netherlands.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
It was it was a lesson in really the Netherlands
are like we just this is like a practice for us.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Yeah, and you're not covering the back post, You're you're
you're leaving players wide open.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
How is this happening? How is it for nothing?
Speaker 1 (09:32):
And so you knew at that point before you even
got to any of the drama with g Orina not
playing and burr Halter, you found out that he had
a domestic incident with his wife in the nineteen nineties
and the Raina's made it public because they were mad
that g Orana wasn't playing, and burr Alter said, Raina
didn't have a great attitude.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
It was just such a men almost.
Speaker 5 (09:51):
Sent home apparently Rena, right like they said.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
We were going to send them home. And and so.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
You have that drama, right and you have bur Alta
even saying that about one of his players, right why,
like you felt like he felt, I need to say
why I didn't play ge Arena. So I need to
make sure people know we're gonna talk about it on
a podcast or at a dinner. When he says, yeah,
we almost had to send him home, he had problems.
Why why are you doing that? It's one of your guys,
twenty of your guys. Why why do you care? Why
do you care?
Speaker 4 (10:17):
But obviously he.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Was feeling pressure because they hadn't won, or they hadn't
won as much as we thought they should win in.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
The World Cup.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
But if you just just take all even take all
that stuff away. Was he a guy that you're gonna
get to the next level? Did great Burholder do enough
in the last four years till yeah, the next four years,
we're gonna take a step up.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
No, we can't score.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
He's leaving talented forwards off the roster for the World
Cup because well, I'm only gonna take three forwards.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
How are we gonna score that?
Speaker 1 (10:42):
You know, the name of the game now is about
putting the ball in the back of the net. It
used to be you can play a counter attack style
and you can find No, it doesn't do that anymore.
You got to put the ball in the back of
the that Every country is explosive, every every one of
the big countries that can win and win big. They
score and they put pressure on the other team and
you can't get a seconds worth of break because that's
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how the teams do it, and Burholter is not that guy.
And you know, the United States felt that way because
if they thought he was the guy, that would have
brought him back right away.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
Let his contract expire Jason.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
And they hired and they hired a firm to go
look for their new head coach. And they're only coming
back to saying, how about the guy you let go?
Speaker 4 (11:20):
He might not be so bad. I mean, this is
the what a clown show this was? And you're gonna
go back.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
This is not gonna suddenly bring any excitement to the team.
It's not gonna bring excitement to the USMNT, excitement to
the fans. The players are gonna say, Okay, we're going
back to Greg where we realized that certain things happened
that needed to happen if we were gonna win, and
he couldn't do it. Now, this is where we're going
for the next four years. We're going back to where
we were when we were a limited team and what
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we could accomplish was limited, and this is the guy
we're going back to.
Speaker 5 (11:49):
So this tells me that they talked to the young
players on the team and it's it was, as I
recalled the youngest team at the last World Cup, and
enough are okay with it that they're going in this,
but it also tells me that they're really not. Despite
being co hosts for the next World Cup, a priority
is not to set the bar high, because what this
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tells me is you want to go to Predictions is
that at the next World Cup when we get to
what twenty twenty six and the US, most of the
games will be in the United States. Mexico will have some,
Canada will have some, but it's going to be big
for US and specifically US men's soccer. It's going to
be like when we hosted the World Cup in nineteen
ninety four. We didn't even have a league back then
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and had very, very huge amounts of difficulty scoring. It
wasn't much offense throughout what little of the tournament we
were in, but thanks to a famed own goal by Columbia,
we wound up getting into the round of sixteen and
then got shut out. And we're quickly out. That kind
of offense and that kind of thing I'm foreseeing, you.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Know, And I can still see that goal that Tony
Miola gave up. It's like, dude, what were you asleep.
I mean, really, we lost to Brazil one nothing. It's like,
how do you let that goal go? That's like a
goal that I could put a player in the net
of a team I coached, never played goalie, just a
stand in front of the ball and she.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
Would have stopped it. And Miola somehow let's it get behind.
I still see that goal going.
Speaker 5 (13:10):
And this year's US team, even if the US wants
to say, hey, we had all this mammoth success with
beating Mexico so many times a couple of years ago
and getting into the World Cup and advancing out of
the group, fine, all of those are facts. It doesn't
put you in the top ten. The US and Mexico
are still both down compared to what they were ten
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and fifteen years ago. Let's be honest, they're both, as
you say, top sixteen teams in the world. Kind of
like how Germany's down and Germany's not a top ten
team in a world The obvious exception is Germany can
score goals. They actually have a chance to win a
game when they're on the field. The US against superior competition,
and that's likely most of what you're going to be
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facing on the world stage. They just haven't shown that,
so why are you bringing back this coach.
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Steve de Seger in from Mike Harmon tonight. And really,
I'm really thinking, Steve, this is a reverse boycott by
the USMNT in reaction to Greg Burholter getting rehired as
their coach.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
Christian Polisic has just scored again in the first.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Two minutes of the second half against Mexico's second goal
of the game. The United States now leads Mexico two
to nothing. But really, this game has become secondary with
the news that Burholter is coming back. And I haven't
found one person, not one soccer expert, not one former
men's play not one person to say.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
Hey, you know, bringing Burholter back was probably a good
move now. Not one person, not one person has said that.
Speaker 5 (14:54):
No, I reference how little the US has scored and
how it's going to be looking like when the US
had no soccer league as as well in nineteen ninety
four and hosted the World Cup. I looked it up.
They because of the own goal, were able to squeeze
into the round of sixteen and then get shut out
and leave. You mentioned the US this past World Cup
last year was able to squeeze into the round sixteen
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and then completely be overmatched, lose and leave. In fact,
this past World Cup, the US had four games and
three total goals. Nineteen ninety four, US had four games
and three total goals in that World Cup.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
You know, you know the thing about him, right, We
talked about the baggage that he brings with the whole
Geo Reina thing.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
Right, That's been the big news tonight. Greg World coming
back to the United States. Met's coach. I can't. It's
like bringing back your ex wife. You don't do it.
You know, all the baggage that he has is.
Speaker 5 (15:46):
It's like paying your ex wife to come back. This
is a contract. This is a four year deal. You know.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
It's like in fantasy when I want a player from
another team and I go how about this? And he
keep saying how about this guy? And he go no, no, no,
no no, And you came all the way back around,
going all right, I'll take that guy all right, why
why And I'll tell you that's like, that's what it's
with Burholton.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
Yeah, and I'm just assuming it's a four year deal.
That's how cycles go. You know, the next World Cup.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
We don't have to worry about qualifying. Right, that's the
one thing that's in automatically.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
It's actually a twenty four year deal. Seal I quitt quit.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
You know the problem there's two problems with Burholter. Right,
to take it a little inside this now because this
is a big thing. We'll say this now and you'll
hear this tomorrow. There's two problems with Burholter.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
And you know, and then Michael, we'll steal it off
one in the morning show.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Yeah exactly.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Look as you said, you know, you and I are
are are are bigger fans of soccer and and know
it a little bit more.
Speaker 5 (16:40):
Than specifically the US team.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
Yeah, it's been the US team.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Look, I've I've coached soccer for a long time and
and and you know, just because we're we watched the team.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
You know, we're just more we're bigger fans of it.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
And now people are coming around to it because it's
become so popular, it's like, well, what's going on. The
two biggest things that that really annoy me about Burholter
it's because again it's not that he's a bad coach,
he's an A to B coach. Is that he gets
too wrapped up in very specific players.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
And it's it's it's to the it's to the.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Detriment of other players, where he doesn't seem to be
open to being able to adjust and to give different
opportunities different players, Like he's got his favorites and he's
got the players that he knows he.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
Wants to play.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
And it's like, well, dude, why aren't you give him
more time? To Ricardo Peppi every time he comes in,
the guy scores a goal. Why isn't he on the
roster for the Why are you taking him to the
World Cup? We need to score goals? What is going on?
You think Polistics is going to score every bleeping goal?
Like he's got this, he's got this. He's beholden to
too many players and he's not open to the fact
that hey, we need we need other ideas. And how
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many times have you watched a game and and and
this is this is this is something you'll watch a game.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
And see this is that he really he is not
a good game day coach. He isn't.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
He's got his strengths, but game day coaching is not
how many times I've watched the team play the last
few year is going if they don't score a goal here,
he's going to get fired at the end of this game,
Like why are we doing this? Why are we not
doing this? I don't understand, And he's not good. I
don't see the United States do anything more in games
when he is coaching them. They try to get out early,
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and they try to get a goal in the first
few minutes, and they try to use their energy and
speed and then we want to sit on the lead.
Like that's like every single thing that's like it's like
the only thing I see where I can say, all right,
this is what the United States is trying to do.
Like I watch other teams, I keep going back to
the Netherlands game where it's like, boy, we just don't
even have stuff covered. We don't even have It's not
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like the other team is playing with fourteen and we're
playing with eleven. No, it's eleven on eleven. He's a
bad game day coach. And he's beholden to wait to
a smaller group of players than he should be when
we have a lot of talented guys now. And that's
part of it for him, right, that's part of for
him is that you know, we have way more talented
players now than we did years ago. And that's part
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of bringing players up and being able to groom them
a little bit, mostly to be big players. Yeah, we're young,
we're talented, right, it's not the boy. We have a
couple of players. But you get down to like the
you know, you go, you go one through eleven against
another team that's really good, and hey, our one through
three is okay, But then you get four through eleven, No,
ore one through eleven is pretty strong now and and
players off that we have young players coming up.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
So that that is part of it.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
But when it gets on, when it gets onto the field,
I know that we're not going to have some kind
of of of of of of strategy that's going to
help us win. We're going to throw the same try
to keep doing the same thing over and over again.
And why don't we go and you see that scoring
goals is a problem. Let's get guys can score goals.
I mean, it's pretty simple. It's why I can coach
a team. Hey, are we scoring goals? No, Let's get
some more people in Scotland stretch. What a great idea,
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Jason Smith. You're going to be the new head coach
the men's national team.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
Score more goals. Let's that's our strategy. In fact, you
know what, that's hashtag.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Score more goals every time and every bit of a
tweet a us mn T with hashtag score more goals.
Speaker 5 (19:52):
You mentioned not being as good as a game day coach,
which reminds me of when Steve Lavin was UCLA basketball
coach and he could and UCLA has a name, and
they had talent galore in various years. I've never seen
a team so talented lose by twenty so often because
if things got rolling against him, you just had a
coach jumping up and down and cheering on the sidelines,
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that kind of thing. I just didn't see it actually
affect the game. And then when he got bounced and
they hired a defensive coach who not only had talent,
but a team that could play defense, Ben Holland, UCLA
made the Final four four straight years. You had the combination.
You got to make it a little ugly. You can't
just not score, You've got to have both.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Well.
Speaker 5 (20:35):
In the early days of US when we you and
I were finally seeing the Americans in the World Cup
and that started nineteen ninety, I forgave them year after
year for not having an offense because we were a
baby program. Realistically, we had gone between nineteen fifty and
nineteen ninety four decades without the US being in the
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World Cup. We never qualified. When I was a little kid,
I didn't know the US even had a team in soccer.
That's how bad it was.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
Why don't we play soccer?
Speaker 2 (21:05):
No?
Speaker 4 (21:05):
We did?
Speaker 3 (21:06):
We do?
Speaker 4 (21:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (21:07):
They see the World Cup. I just don't see us
in it. Yeah, but there's a reason.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
It's the biggest tournament, right, Yes, how many teams get
in just about everybody?
Speaker 4 (21:14):
Are we in it? No? Oh?
Speaker 5 (21:16):
Put it this way. For the decade of the nineties,
that's three total World Cups. That's what is it like?
Ten games played. The US team scored six goals in
the decade when they finally made it back to the
World Cup in the nineteen nineties. Okay, so you're new,
I forgave that. I'm not forgiving what I'm seeing the
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last four years.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
You could replace everything in what you said in nineteen
nineties with runs and mets, and that.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
Would be the same thing. It would be the same
exact thing.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
They both suck.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
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is that Hard Knocks. They're still trying to figure out
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who's going to be the team.
Speaker 5 (22:23):
It's mid June already, it's mid.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Jay and we got to get ready because you know,
in a month or so we're getting ready to come
to h to come to camp. They want to get
everything set to go. There are four teams who are candidates.
There are four teams that cannot tell the NFL no,
because they don't fall into the category of a new
head coach. And they have They've made the playoff right
and they are the Jets, the Lions, the Bears, and
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the Saints.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
These are the four teams that can't say no.
Speaker 5 (22:50):
Jets and Lions and Bears.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
Oh I.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Apparently, according to reports today, the league is going back
to the Lions about being a wait, the Lions were on.
They're going back to the Lions because the other three teams,
even though they can't say no, have been giving them
a lot of pushback. Sat the Bears have made a
lot of changes, The Saints have made changes, The Jets have.
Speaker 5 (23:11):
As the Lions would not have to because if you've
been on in the last decade, you can opt out.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
Exactly, you can't. You can say no.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
And here's the thing, and this is where I'm going
to give you a revolutionary idea that I can't believe
a team hasn't decided. You are now seeing times in
the year where teams really want things. They want to
host a Black Friday game. We want to be the
yearly host of a Black Friday game. We want to
be the yearly host of a Thanksgiving Day game. Because
it's a big deal. It's relevancy, it's money, it's everything.
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You are looking to own a part of the.
Speaker 5 (23:40):
County tradition for your city, not just your team.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
If you are the Lions, why don't you say, you
know what, Yes, and you know what, we want to
be the official team of Hard Knocks for the next
three years?
Speaker 3 (23:53):
Wow?
Speaker 4 (23:54):
Why not? Why you would own the month of August?
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Aus it means you suck?
Speaker 4 (23:59):
You would own No. No, if you signed to Knocks,
you suck.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
No, no, no not. If you change, you change. The narrative
is that, Hey, we want to be the official team.
We want you to follow us for the next three
years or five years, and every August the spotlight's going
to be on our team. And for a team like
the Lions that is fighting for just their one thirty
second of the NFL pie that is taken up by
the Cowboys and the Steelers and the Patriots and the
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Raiders and the ren why wouldn't you do that.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
Why wouldn't you say, yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
We want to be the official team. Are the cameras
a distraction? Sure, a little bit, But nobody's winning and
losing in the NFL playoffs because oh we did Hard
Knocks this year? No, it becomes a little bit more difficult.
But when you're a franchise looking for relevancy, why wouldn't
you say, oh, wait a minute, we could be the
official team of Hard Knocks. Yes, we'll sign a five
year deal with you. Whatever money is going to be,
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it's gonna be, and you're gonna shoot our team. There's
enough turnover every year where you can bring new stories in.
There's enough through lines from year to year where you
can wind up saying, hey, okay, this is about this team.
Why not do that instead of all the fuss and
fighting and maybe you get a good year, maybe you don't.
Why wouldn't you say, hey, how about we help each
other out? Will be the official team of Hard Knocks, three,
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five years, whatever it is. You don't have to worry
about fighting a team every year, and this helps us
and this helps you.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
Why wouldn't you do that?
Speaker 5 (25:16):
A few the Lions, Well, obviously it would take the
head coach first and foremost saying an enthusiastic yuess because
Mike's are in your meeting rooms and when you cut
guys and you're micd up on the practice field, and
you know Dan Campbell, wouldn't you agree with me? Kind
of was up to the challenge of being miked and
having not just being a head coach in the NFL,
but being head coach of a team that was being
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followed all through camp. Like that that worked out, They
got a documentary out of that. He had something to say,
he had energy and all of that. This would be
a lot of bitten kneecaps though, by the end, wouldn't it.
This could get really old if you, for example, disappoint
in the coming year. That has happened in a Lion's history.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
Oh listen, listen.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
I'm not saying a lot of great things have happened
in Lion's history, but this would be something that could break,
that could break them, mold, that could break them.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
I hey, suddenly, now you sign your story August. Yeah,
but that's okay.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Every August we have the headline, people are talking about us,
and we become relevant.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
People get to see our culture. Every year.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Maybe free agents want to come sign with us, maybe
other coaches want to come. We get to show what
we're all about. Because look, it's training camp, right, and
wins and losses don't matter. Here's not like oh, you're
gonna watch us lose every week and we suck. No,
it's about everybody is optimistic. Every year could be the
next year that changes things. Why wouldn't you do that?
Why would say, yes, I want to put the spotlight
on my team and own a month of the NFL calendar.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
Why not?
Speaker 5 (26:36):
Well, from the NFL's perspective, and of course it's NFL's
the league's are NFL films that is, following people around
and creating this before to be televised, wouldn't you say
that reading between the lines of what they're not saying.
They're really in a bind at this point because it's
what a month or less till employees starts showing up
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for camps, and worse than Jets to do it, Steve,
the Jets are the story. How could they go away
from the Jets which will be automatic content for you
to follow around? Right, and it's a New York team.
I mean, forget the quarterback change. It's just there are
too many pluses compared to having the Lions again.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Right, Clearly that's they're holding off and hey, we're going
to get the Jets. We're gonna get the Jets. But
at some point you have to move on. You have
to get ready. Tell people where they're going. I don't
know why you wouldn't do it. If you're the Lions,
we're that team.
Speaker 5 (27:27):
Weirdly, If you're the league, legally you can throw your
weight around and make a team do it.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
Well.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
If that pisses Aaron Rodgers off, and then he better.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
He's not going to be your league for that much longer.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
Let's do it. Let's do it, piss them off and
win the MVP. Stop Froberg, stop putting that out there.
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Coming up next, we get back into the big story
out of Major League Baseball. That's been the biggest story
in sports the last couple of days. Keep it right here,
Jason Smith Steve Desager USA up over Mexico despite hiring
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Greg Burr aalterback.
Speaker 4 (28:10):
That's next on Fox.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
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Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern seven
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Speaker 1 (28:20):
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Jason Smith Show.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
Steve de Sager in for Mike Harmon and Something's Happened.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Yeah, I think the United States Mexico game is going
to finish three on three because everybody's getting red cards.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
Now.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Uh, there is a big pushing and shoving in front
of the net.
Speaker 5 (28:42):
And starting by the way, at about the seventieth minute
in Las Vegas tonight with a Mexican defender against a
US player that was dribbling the ball, taking a full
swing of the leg and kicking him, not even to
the ball, literally kicking the opponent with a full swing.
Immediately the US players came to confront him in the
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insulting melee, Western McKinney's jersey was nearly pulled off. He
got a red card. The initial guy who kicked Montes
for Mexico is out, but typical of so many Mexico
fans there in attendance. As soon as the melee began,
drink thrown from the stands on the US players. This
is the worst fan base in North America.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
And you know, and I have to say, I'm not
if you said to be hate, which member of the
United States team. Do you think is going to get
a red guy? I would sayt Western McKinny, he'd be
the Western McKenny. But no, no, no, he's the guy
Wester mckenny's gonna get red card.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Steve, have they started throwing bags of urine and batteries.
Speaker 5 (29:37):
Yet, stay tuned. That's that's the fan base.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
They've been doing that because Greg Burholter got named USMNT coach.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
That they're doing.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
I mean it was a disasterion United States fans that
are doing that two.
Speaker 5 (29:48):
Years ago with the Mexico fans in Vegas as well.
So the games through seventy five minutes, it's two nothing US,
two Christian politic goals. And how soon until Greg Burholter
becomes the US coach again.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
I think he's actually gonna come on and coach the
rest of this game. Now we guess that was the
breaking news.
Speaker 5 (30:05):
Couldn't throw him in the middle of the melee. Maybe
some accident. You gotta hunt for an actual coach. Uh.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
Yeah, So this has been insane.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
It's been red cards, it's been it's been back and forth.
The United States has a big lead. Greg Burholter is
coming back to coach the men's national team. We're dealing
with a lot of stuff. It's like bull dirt.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
Hey, we're dealing with a lot of stuff here on
the mount.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
Say it ain't so, we know what a live chicken,
live chicken, live rooster. Take the curse off of the glove,
Give me the glove. I'll take the heck's off it.
Uh So that's what's happening right now in uh soccer.
Speaker 4 (30:37):
It's absolutely crazy.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
United States does have a lead over Mexico to nothing
seventy fifth minute.
Speaker 5 (30:43):
Jason. By the way, that the Spanish language announcers on
UNIVCO and when they showed the replay of the full
speed leg kick by the Mexican defender, said that is
an embarrassment. That was their course.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
Jason, Did you really just give a score? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (30:58):
What I told you.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
I'm dv oh, I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
Sorry. It was almost two to one.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Mexico just missed a golden opportunity to get back in
this one.
Speaker 5 (31:06):
See he was dvring the Dodger game tonight, but he
already knows to delete. Don't even start with that one.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
There's it's batting practice at Dodger Stadium tonight for the
White time. Uh So we'll have more on this game
and then and the Burholter stuff coming up in a
few minutes. But you know, I want to just get
to this for a second because we talked about the
whole deal with the A's ballpark. Today the governor of
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Nevada has signed the deal to approve the money for
the new ballpark in Vegas.
Speaker 5 (31:37):
So now, hey, and it's only about a quarter of
the money, right this is this is not like bending
over backwards like they did for the football stadium.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
And no, no, no, no no no.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
So TAFA reverse boycott or not, the A's are going
to Vegas. And the one thing I told you I
agreed with with Rob Manford is I said, look.
Speaker 5 (31:54):
Jason Ricardo PEPPI who you called this just scoring?
Speaker 4 (31:57):
Did he score? Oh? Man, he's car This is.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
It's a reverse boycott because he left them off the roster.
And now it's a reverse boycott. That's what's happening right now.
Speaker 5 (32:06):
You just need somebody who can put it. I don't
care if that even counts. I don't care if they
call that back you call that. I'm going with you
on this, Okay. Anyway, came in the game he just
came in the game. You know. The next step is
the major league owners, who do you approve? But all
that seems a formality there get out of Oakland.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
He's going and look.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
The one thing I can agree with Rob Manfred on
which I do, is that, uh, the ballpark is not
tenable and you need a new ballpark.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
And that's that's become a thing.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
That you know that when when you're looking to stay
in a city and your ballpark is decrepit, your stadium
is you need a new stadium because that brings more
people to the state. People want to see the stadium
and they want to see the bells and whistles that
it comes with. It's a destination. It's not it's not
enough to go there just to watch the game. It's
you need to go there where regardless of the game,
you want to go there and have a good time.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
And it's almost like the same thing.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
That the movie industry is going through right now with
people still slow coming back to movie theaters. Even everything
is good, everybody's coming back right now, and a lot
of it has to do with the fact that it's.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
No longer experienced just to go see the movie.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
You can't just go and sit in some crappy ass
theater and eat the same food you've had for the
last twenty years. You need to upgrade the movie experience,
the experience in the theater and around it, and you
got to pour money into it to make that happen.
Then people will start coming back to the theater because
you've made it a destination.
Speaker 4 (33:35):
Now.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
They made a lot of money for a long time
on just hey we're showing a movie, you're sitting in
bad seats, and here's the same.
Speaker 5 (33:40):
Food for price popcorn.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
They need to be able to upgrade that and then
you'll bring that back. Trust me, and we'll have more
on this and more on the big developing story coming
out of US soccer right here.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
Keep it right here, Jason and Steve, This is Fox