June 20, 2023 • 45 mins
Tonight on The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon, in the best of the guys talk about the endless possibilities that could occur in the NFL this season, the MLS & the growth of soccer around the world, talking about Chris Paul and him being traded to the Washington Wizards. They give their two cents on what they believe will happen with the rest of his career.
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the Mets thumping the Astro six nothing. Max Shurs is
pitching a three inter This is the way it should be.
Mike Carmon, Well, and this is why you don't get
to watch it right. We started that traditions worked.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Out for you.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
So far it has, but I really I like to
watch the games though, but I want to watch the
gaging I know, but I want to watch again.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
You've been the beneficiary of some umpiring with Mets calling
you Mets game. I think it's frauduoint. How many I mean,
how many pitches on the edges have you gotten tonight?
How many? How many?
Speaker 1 (01:16):
How many times have I gotten to see the Mets
with a six nothing lead? And yeah, doesn't happen that often.
That is a rarity here in twenty twenty three.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
I don't know that it's once.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
I do.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
I do know. I have the white Sox on in
front of me. Yeah, and Bomber has come in, ty Sher,
can we put put the Mets on? Please leave it
on the Mats. I'm glad you looked up and saw
that the Mets are on. Thanks for checking out. Well,
we're in commercial and everywhere. It's one of the on
one of the teams, Jason. Yeah, thanks, the Mets are on. Thanks? Okay,
which one are they on? I don't know, it's not
on the channel that you're thinking. It's on.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Happy Holiday? Jason, you must have been something. I bet
you got straight a's in school. I did, because you
would get like a sixty on a test, and you
would up to the teacher after classic go. But I
would have gotten this one right, except it was in
the wrong space and it should have been here and
the teacher months after a while, just so like, you
know what, what it's going to take you to walk away?
(02:07):
Right now here, I'll give you one hundred. Here you
go a A plus walk away?
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Are you talking to ty Shirt or me? Because I
certainly did that more than walk away.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
I think this is I think this question was needed
to come in later on in the test because this
is now shown, this is terribly worded.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Whatever you do, eliminate this this question? Right? What do
we do? What would just just just get rid of it? Whatever?
How's Alex Tysher? He never studies. The guy gets like
fifties in my class. Yeah, he just comes and complains
to me all the time about stuff. He's gonna make
a great litigator someday. All the time he's making an argument.
He's making an argument, making an argument. Uh so, hey,
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big day today in the NBA. As we get closer
and closer to the NBA draft, and I you know, listen,
there's lots of places where where we could start the show.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
But I don't know that anything is better than Chris Paul,
the big Chris Paul Bradley Beal trade that has been
humming to fruition over the course of the past.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Two and a half days. And at first I said,
Larry Beal has been traded. That's amazing. I didn't think
our old friend Larry Beale, could you could you do
because he's kg O right in in ABC in San Francisco, Yeah,
left Sports Center after a long time? Could you do that? Like?
Why didn't we do that? We're gonna trade sportscasters? Would
that work? Like? Could you you get trade contract? You
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trade sports? Hey? Like it's like somebody, Hey, we like
this guy. And they traded out Michaels for Oswald the Rabbit. No,
I mean like like sportscaster for sportscaster. Sure we could
probably like can we pulled something off like that? Like
you know, I feel like that. Larry over at Yahoo
we both were involved in Larry Beale experience. Yeah, Larry,
(03:44):
we had a good time. We had a very young staff,
like a lot of young young guys run around and
well we didn't tolerate a lot of nuts. That's and
we're supposed to start at one. We're starting at one,
so it was fun, fun ride. But yeah, no, he
has not been dealt as to my knowledge. All right, well,
Larry Beale trade him to all right, we got it's
(04:04):
gotta be market sized to market size. No, or maybe
you get maybe we doing contract for contract, like it's
the NBA.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
But what if it's like this, What if you like, hey,
we needed eleven o'clock anchor, but we also need a
five o'clock anchor and a weekend anchor.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
So we'll give you package. Do you give us the
big like you give us the the number one guy
from ABC in New York and your number on weather,
right and you and you get and you get the
number one guy and the weekend guy in Chicago. You know,
like that could work, or it goes down the way
a little bit. Start talking market size and sometimes maybe
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maybe you got an expiring contract so you get dealt
to a place like Washington. We're just paying this guy
for the rest of this year. Can I just say
this though, like just just to jump off this conversation.
Every article talks about as Wizards begin rebuilding, like rebuilding
from what well.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
They did have the Big three last year that they
thought was a big three with Kuzman, Porzengis and Larry Beal,
and it just didn't work out. The kill the Kilbourne,
Ravich Larry Beal, the three headed monster in the nineties
and early two thousands in Sports Center was much better.
They accomplished a lot more. But look, I get they
tried to make it work and each of these guys.
(05:18):
We talked about these three players holding and the Wizards
holding the key to the offseason, because these are three
guys that could put teams over the top. And now
here you have Bradley Beal going to Phoenix, and we
have plenty of time to get into that part of it.
But today I just can't get over.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Chris Paul goes on Good Morning America because he's pushing
his book that he's got sixty one that's coming out,
and he does an interview and he says, how did
you They talked, how did you find out about the
trade that you were going to be going to Washington
And he said, my fourteen year old told me he
found about about it on social media. And then he
went on to say that Matt and Isaiah working this
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matt Ishpia of the Phoenix suns and yes, that exact.
Isaiah Thomas, What did I tell you? What was a
big argument we had the other day. You were all
getting read in the face. You read in the face after,
but you got all read in the face about Michael Jordan.
All he did was make money. He didn't do anything.
I kept telling you. People can make moves in the shadows.
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People could be behind the scenes and move mountain. But
we would have heard about that. Now we're here, we're
hearing that Isaiah Thomas, not the player, well I mean
not the most recent player, but Isaiah Thomas last scene,
the last scene guiding the Nick ship downward into oblivion,
is now making advisements for the Phoenix side. We actually
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predicted this. We talked about this for a couple of months.
So the fact that this is now part of the
Chris Paul side of the discussion. And look, he didn't
throw anybody under the bus. He didn't get mad about it.
He was very just matter of fact and said it.
And that's it, right out in the open, and here
we go and behind the scenes, maybe he's pissed and
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wants some more explanation. Said he had been talking to
the gm and front office on Sunday night and thought, well,
all right, we'll move into the next phase and boom,
you're on a plane. In a way, it goes there
to promote a book. Now, there's a couple of things
for this. Number one. You know, Jared Jeffries is somehow
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involved in this trade. Somehow, somehow, all of these bad
players at Isaiah to Isaiah Thomas, who once made a
trade and I forget the trade.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
But I forget the trade. But he was asked about
his reaction for it, and he said, you know, it's
just so crazy that it just might work. This is
the general manager of the Knicks. Why did you make
this trade? It sounds crazy, But because it's so crazy,
it just might I kind of dig that, right, But
where that's where you try to do it in fantasy,
Like if I'm but this guy running the Knicks and
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he says, it's just so crazy that it just might work.
And he's still calling shots for the sun, which is insane,
but more insane.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Way, I like what he did. If he was the
guy that said let's make this trade and get Bradley
Beal in and get Chris Paul out, I like what
he did. It's Isaiah This is maybe the best front
office move Isaiah Thomas has ever done, and he's not
even doing it officially. Yeah, I just have the curiosity
of how the rest of the roster shakes out there
in Phoenix. A lot of dollars, a lot of assets
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traded away to make this happen. Right, it's the beginning
of the Kevin Costner draft day. We have no first
round picks. We've now traded all our second round picks.
We've traded most of our young talent away. And Beeble
is a hell of a player, there's no question. And
he's one of those guys that Off mentioned in The
Boy if he was only playing in someplace where it
(08:44):
mattered kind of conversation. But now you put all the
proverbial eggs in the basket of we've got a bunch
of superstars. Now you'll spin eight and off for whatever.
Although rumors are and the insiders are saying he at
this time he's not expected to be dealt. I don't
know how you bring him back given the acrimony of
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a year plus. Even though Monny Williams is gone and
more reports today that many Williams didn't like coaching eight.
And then we take all that with a grain of
salt and trying to figure out the sources and who's
talking out of school or validity of that stuff. But
you still have to round out the rest of the roster.
And Chris Paul's gonna get bought out, Like that's the
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side he's not gonna end out. He's not gonna end
up with Washington's gonna he gonna do with the Lakers.
Will he end up back with the Clippers somewhere? But
the side, yeah? I mean, And look and for folks
that want to get mad about what Phoenix gave up
for him, as in, it's not enough, right because we
saw that a lot from current and former NBA players
going that's it. Look at what this guy got dealt for. Yeah,
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he had no trade clause. He had no trade clause.
I'm sure there might have been other offers that might
have been a lot better on paper. However, if he
doesn't want to go to those teams and didn't want
to play ball in that respect, then it doesn't matter.
It's a dead conversation and those will come out in
the wash over time, because it's no surprise that Beale
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was gonna get dealt just that it comes this quickly
ahead of the draft and to Phoenix. Oh, now game
on for this offseason, Larry by now and though he's
with this Hawaiian shirts and aloha means goodbye. That is right,
he and Ralph Irvan would have gotten along right.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Oh oh, This is why I like this deal is that.
Look forget about not giving up, not giving anything up.
Chris Paul is done. Okay, now I'll be it three
years later. I remember I did. I said this three
years ago. Chris Paul has done, and he proved that
he's still had a lot left in the tank. But
Chris Paul is done. Like his thing to do now
wherever he ends up is agree to come off the
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bench and run the second you didn't play twenty minutes
a night, because he's got nothing left. He's got no
legs by the time it gets to the playoffs, and
he's just a guy. And but yet his status as
a star merits that you play him, merits that you
play him big minutes. And you have to be really
strict and firm and say, listen, dude, we think you
you know, we think this is your role because when
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you're counting him to be one of the Big Three
forget it.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
I mean, look at Phoenix. I mean they completely were
outrun by the Nuggets in the playoffs and I thought, hey,
getting KD was going to be great, but it was.
Hey guess what it was not enough? Well, but that
was the bet you were making, was that those guys
are going to say healthy and over the course of
the season they all missed time, right, But come playoff time,
if your floor general isn't there, it all falls apart. No,
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and you can't you can't count on him to be
a big part of the team anymore. So he's done.
He's not done playing, but he's done being a big player.
He really was done about a year and a half ago,
but with Phoenix and paying him and the memory of
going to the final and how closely were to winning
a title until what happened. Phoenix lost because Chris Paul
started playing too much basketball.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
He had to play every other night. By the time
it got to the NBA Finals, he hit the wall.
That's what happens, what happens to a lot of players now.
So yeah, that's why I like it, because Bill is younger,
he's more dynamic, and they're gonna they're gonna score and
they're gonna be a lot easier to score. Chris Paul's
talent and what he did for the team does not
bring enough of what Bradley Beal and his near you know,
(12:17):
eight years younger legs and his ability to score and
put points up is going to be. Now you have
three big time scorers on the team, and you could
be able to feed a positionless NBA. Now you can
figure out how you're gonna share the basketball and how
things are going.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
We need a facilitator. That's the that's the thing that's
missing in this equation. Thomas he's gonna come down. Well,
he's gonna come down fifth anniversary, make his biggest games.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
I'm making the trade and I'm going to play. So
that's how it's gonna go. Yeah, Isaiah is gonna do it.
It's all Isaiah.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Well, they'll need him Isaiah because Booker showed at points
he could be that guy. But right now, you have
four ball stoppers, four scores. That's great. You have one basketball. Yeah,
and you have nobody on your roster that can facilitate that.
But I know they're in the buy out market and
trades and you know whatever else. Free agency holds. You're
(13:07):
gonna look to cobble together the rest of this roster,
and it's gonna be a great experiment, right to see
if you can make this work. Because I remember how
bull as you were. They're gonna win by fourteen points
every game.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
They were doing great, and then Kevin Durant got hurt
and then uh slipped in a layup line. Yeah, I
know we were here, we were watching it happen.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
When did he go? What the hell? As long as
he's healthy in the layup line? You know, they're a
team that even even now would still be Are they
gonna be healthy? And how do you treat the regular
season like we're we're in a new experimental phase? Load management?
Be Damn, this is a much bigger thing for teams
(13:46):
of all, right, how do we get to game eighty
three regular seasons? All finding good? But are we healthy
for what the next two and a half months bring?
And with Phoenix right now, you've got to build out
the rest of the roster. How many games is Kevin
Durant playing this next year? Yeah? But you know, but
I'll look at it as you know, when when you
put these teams together, Now you understand that that that's
(14:08):
going to be the challenge, right all going all way
back to the Heatles, right, well, how are they all
going to play together? Dwayne Wade does this lebron to
you know what? Okay, they fill it out with you
know that with with players who are lower, lower caliber,
not making a lot of money, you're taking chances on
some guys can do one thing.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
So I know that that's part of the gig now.
So that's why I don't I don't think it's too
much for them to overcome because this is what you do.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
It's not oh, we got them, not what do we do?
Oh my god, I have no idea. Is anybody having it?
Let's call isaiahs It is Isaiah Thomas. It is. You
just torpedoed. Your entire argument just went to hell because
I tie it back up by showing you a picture
of Isaiah Thomas. Yeah, it is Isaiah Thomas. So there
is that.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
But that's more of what goes along with the gig now.
So I feel okay with that. I loved I love
this trade. I love this move for the Suns. I
love it. Bradley Beal, Larry Beale, I love it, I think.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
And then one Porzingis Exercises is your option, and Kuzma
hits the open market. Washington can really just start over
Twitter at how about a Fresca?
Speaker 1 (15:07):
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(15:29):
ball off his wrist. I'm thinking, of course, the Mets
can't have nice things, but we'll have more on this trade.
And I can't believe we're actually talking about Isaiah Thomas.
It's such a cool night. We're shocking off we're talking
about Isaiah. But we have another big story out of
the NBA and a big one out of the NFL.
It's coming up next right here, Jason and Mike Fox
Sports Radio. Let me let me give you a challenge,
(15:53):
Alex ty Shirt. We're gonna challenge you for the rest
of the show tonight and maybe because of this, we
won't hear any more tears for fears. We spent some
time last hour, I mean really was fun reflecting very
organically on Perfect Strangers TV show of the nineties with
Mark Lynn Baker and brons Up and Shallos Balkie Bartalcon
was don't be a de les Uh yeah again, there
(16:16):
would be no boor at without Balkie So and you
played the theme song the Perfect Stranger.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
I did ruse and fu so the rest of the night.
When we when we starting, when we're starting all our conversations,
I need from you a TV theme song from the.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Nineties, and you can go as obscure as you want,
but it's got to be a show that people have seen.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Hmmm, all right, so you already do this sometimes some guys.
Actually no, you're usually in the CV theme song from
the nineties, right, And you can't pick like Cheers or now.
You got to pick something.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
If it's an anime show, again, it's got do you
show that people have seen?
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Oh stop it, people have seen those what what have
they seen? A lot? Like what? Neon Genesis is one
of the biggest nineties anime in the world. Genesis was
a band in the eighties, Collins no longer sings for
them here too much. This was the spinoff called Neon
Neon Jens because in the nineties they painted themselves like highlighters.
They were trying to reinvent themselves. Hey, there's more color
(17:21):
in the nineties. You know, we got we had all
the big reds and the Mike Rutherford was a fluorescent pink.
About Cowboy Bebop that's another great anime. Uh isn't that
the song they played when the Cowboys score a touchdown? Thankfully? No,
you play Cowboy Bebopbop was by those other guys. Hanson, Yeah,
Tyler Taylor, Taylor, There's Taylor, Tyler Taylor. There's William Henry Harrison.
(17:46):
I died in thirty days. It was no, it was
Taylor was the really talented one. He was the drummer
in the second and there was the older, the tall one,
and then the younger kid who played the drums, m
Bob Bob Bob do Taylor. There's a Joshua Joshua is
John Hanson, Isaac Guru Isaac. Yeah that sounds right, Isaac Hanson, Okay,
(18:07):
very good, Yeah, Guru, John Hanson. He became a fantasy
football analyst. Sure, no, okay, all right, so there you go,
ty Shirt forgot. Let's do that forgotten TV theme songs
from the nineties. Let's do it that way, forgot forgotten
TV theme songs of the nineties. That that that'll that'll
that that'll figure it out that way. All right, Fine,
that'll be the best thing, right right again? All right,
(18:28):
so forgotten theme songs of the nineties. Okay, and then
I also challenge you to give me a new anime
from the nineties every time, too. Uh Baku gone right? Right?
Is that the opposite would be back?
Speaker 1 (18:42):
No, Baki ghan was Isn't that like the the the
one level lower of Pokemon?
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Right? Isn't that pretty? Sure? That was a monster in
Godzilla that he find No, Bakia gun is a thing?
Hang with which era of Godzilla? Are we talking the claymation.
Oh we're talking Rubber Suitzi school. Yeah, Baki gun battle
plan it Baky gone battle brawlers. There's cards and games
and everything. Yeah. See it's not Pokemon, right, it's like
but it's the same thing.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
It's like Pokemon got popular. Hey, let's come with something
very much like it, like the Okay, great, and now
now we have it like when Army, Like when Armageddon
came out, it was Hey, let's do something just about
deep impact.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
All right, great, we'll do that. That'll be fun.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Hey we have all these these couple of good Walking
Dead zombie movies. Let let's let's put all kinds of.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Rip off TV shows and zombies we can get out there,
and we're gonna extend that universe as long as we
can bleed money from it. Raz and full. So like Meagan,
ever since Jeffrey Dean Morgan, ever since he was killed
off of Grey's Anatomy, he was spoiler.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
I was just gonna start watching season one, episode one
of Gray's Anatomy.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Now, they really dragged his an Izzy storyline out a
little too long before she left. But he's been on
that you say left, okay, all right? How many seasons
now for Graising Anatomy like twenty Oh okay? Kind of
cheese me off, though, So my older daughter was really
into it, right, so I decided I'm gonna unk her
down and I'm gonna watch it on a streaming service.
(20:12):
I'm gonna catch up ahead of the season, but catch
you no, No, I got ahead up until she's got
a very good mind, said like, like we do here
with sports or whatever, where you compartmentalize it and you
can recall it. Right, this storyline is no, I get it,
but you're gonna try to catch up to twenty seasons
of twenty episodes. But I was working out and doing
other things. I'd have it streaming in the background, and
(20:34):
I finally catch up and the season premiere comes this
two years ago. She goes, oh, I'm not watching it anymore. Well,
because it took you so long to catch up. She
was done because it wasn't just no, but it was
coming back. And then like she was done and she
was ready, and I'm like, all right, I caught up,
so we can watch the new season and talk about
it together and have this bonding moment. She said, beat it.
I don't watch it anymore. Man. Sure.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Now I feel you though, because we did the same
thing with Supernatural, and it was we fifteen seasons of Supernatural.
I thought watching Agents of Shield seven seasons of Agents
of Shield was a lot, but fifteen seasons because every
every season is twenty some on episodes. And here's a
bad guy vampire covin the zombie, here's God and the
(21:16):
Devil and death and all this, and every week it
was Dean and Sam and Baddie in the week and
I'm like, wow, twenty seasons.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Man, that was smooth. Yeah, but at least with Agents
of Shield you had Ming Ming Nah, I did, and
we had Fifthnivers sure but sure, uh yeah yeah, And
what's it? No? No, no, no, Henry Simmons was in it.
And who else he hung out with Mark Paul Gosler
he did, Yeah, they were They weren't partners in NYPD Blue. No,
(21:43):
he was partners with Metal Clany, who was also Shock
from an Out. And now we've come all the way
back to sports. They always say when you talk movies,
bring it back to sports. Just cart it back to
eight man out. So Draymond Green is now going to
be a free agent, and we talked a few minutes
ago about how look, if you're the Warriors, I hope
it's just fake interest in Yeah, we want to bring
(22:06):
you back. Hey, we really want you, so it doesn't
look like we're kicking a guy to the curb that
helped us build a dynasty. But you're just not good enough.
I think you're doing if the price is right, I
just But if he's opting out of a one year,
thirty six million dollar deal, he's hoping to do exactly
what James Harden did. Is I want to get back
now maybe a three year ninety million dollar deal, or
(22:29):
I take less money for one year, but I get
more overall. And that's what I'm hoping to do, because
if I could do this one year at thirty six million,
but then what am I going to get after that?
But if I'm out now, I can get three years.
That's what he's hoping to do. And it's not that
he doesn't have value. Draymond Green has value, but he
has value as an over the top guy for an
(22:49):
NBA title contender, a team that says, you know, what
we're missing is his attitude, his defensive prowess and the
intangibles he brings to the team. That's what we need,
and that is value for this year or next year.
That's huge value. But for the Warriors, it's dude, you
can't build. You can't bring him back and say the
same three guys, we're gonna do it. When Klay Thompson
(23:11):
is not the same guy and Draymond Green is not
the same guy, You're just not talented enough. You got
knocked out in the second round by the Lakers, who
are actually older than you are. And you think you're
gonna bring this, bring the three guys back, they're already.
We got to move on from Jordan Poole, who knows
about Jonathan Kaminga and all these guys that thought were great, Uh,
guess what, not working. It's a reload on the fly.
(23:31):
It's very difficult.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
I get it because they meant a lot, but you know,
you have to make these sound decisions. And for Mike
Dunleavy Junior, who certainly worked with the team and worked
his way up and got the promotion, he doesn't nearly
have the the loyalty to Clay and Steph and Draymond
like Bob Myers did. So hopefully it's easier to move on. Still,
(23:53):
isn't gonna be difficult, But hey, if we made an offer,
but we want to bring you back, but hey, you
got this offer from the Knicks or the Celtic or
the Grizzlies or the Nuggets or whatever it's going to be, Hey,
you should probably take it because that's where he has value.
But coming back is a lynchpin for the word, No,
Warrior's got to get They gotta dump everybody and they
got to get better.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
They got to reload on the fly and not waste
Steph who is still scoring thirty some odd points a
game with thirty four years old. Yeah, it's the big
curiosity to it is how much loyalty and does the
bridging out of Myers allow for a reset? Obviously you're
coordinating with Steph and Steve Kerr to try to figure
out what the next iteration is. Can remember Steph and
(24:33):
his exit was really pointed in is Hey, this guy's
going to be a key pointing to Jordan Poole's locker.
And that's something done Levy talked about a little bit today. Hey,
he's under contract for four years. It's our guy. But
as we know, again if the price is right, anything
can be had and anything can happen in this marketplace
(24:54):
is as long as you have your coaches and star players. Blessing.
But Clay is now not the same guy in any way,
shape or form. Back to back nights playoff series, they
gave away two games to the Lakers, right, And that's
the thing, and that's the margin of error where we're
at in this across the NBA. Is they gave away
(25:14):
two games they should have won in the fourth quarter
because they didn't have enough size to get the key
rebound or to make a play and spread the offense.
Those things weren't there, which why porzengis showing up is
going to solve all of that. See what I did there,
I just put big weight on his shoulders to do that.
But with Klay Thompson, shot was off right. You can
(25:35):
tell me it was Denver's big bodies and stuff flying
past him. His accuracy was terrible and he can't create
space for himself right, even the quick step to try
to get a better shooting lane, it's not as fluid
as it was. Is that coming back off an injury?
Is it still needing time? Well? How much time do
(25:56):
you need? And that's another, you know, another year on
the odometer as it flows. With Jordan Poole, Is he
ever gonna be a complete player? No, but he's a
good offensive player and the contract you signed him to
makes him gonna be He's gonna be very difficult to
move if you did decide to go in that direction, right,
So that's part of the process of all right, if
he becomes your second unit, second line score and this
(26:19):
kind of play together just fine. But in terms of
paying out Draymond and Claye to top of market contracts,
you can't do it. No, It's kind of like, well,
you're more bullish on the Phoenix move, and obviously it's
a great of an incomplete because we don't know what
the roster looks like. But you're basically trying to do
the same thing. All right, we're gonna keep these guys
who aren't elite scorers besides Steph at a high rate
(26:43):
and then build around it. You just saw it didn't work.
It didn't get you through. And even if you say, well,
with this and this, we could have beaten we should
have beaten the Laker spine, you're still getting drummed by
the Nuggets. Right if you had advanced, you're still gonna
get beaten down, Like you don't match up with that
squad at all. So you still need to do a
lot of work and reconfigure some of those salaries so
(27:04):
you make the best good faith, save face effort. But
the reality is you're hoping that the dollar amount is
not enough but not insulting where you usexty because you and.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
You also need the team to look like, hey, I'm
gonna go there and they'll treat me right. And I'm like, boy,
these guys just won, you know, you know, there's won
five championships.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
And when it went bad, you'll cut those guys.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Look, you're just kicking them to the curb. So you
have to do it the right way. But I also
I also see Draymond and Clay that understand that, and
that Clay is like, listen, if you don't, I can
go to the Lakers and I'd love to go there.
I'd like, hey, you know, where's the destination you'd like
to go to where you think for a couple of
years you could do.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
It because there's no shame in doing that. It's so
I'm hoping that that's what it is. But if it's like,
if you decide we're gonna bring we're really gonna bring
these guys back and give them all kinds of money
you can't don't give You don't give people money for
what they've already for services already run right, you know
you can't. That's the one thing we always talk about, right,
and every once in a while you do add that
transcendent superstar where you recognize what the end of the
(28:04):
road looks like for your squad and you over pay
them grossly for what they've done. See the final years
of the Kobe Bryant contracts. But outside of that, you know,
it's a it's a losing formula. And I did like that.
There was a faux Draymond Green account that was getting
a bunch of folks earlier Todaymond Green account. It was
(28:26):
Draymond not the real you sure wasn't somebody It was
Raymond Okay, so kind of going on, Okay, a darn
chef road, but the idea of boy lebron can't wait
to get to late and play with you, didn't you?
Step were getting pretty excited, said Draymond Green. Right yeah,
Draymond Green. No, sid it sounded like you said, sound
like you said dream No no no, I said Draymond Green. Again.
(28:48):
Sounded like you had an m there at the end. No, no, no, Draymond,
I said Raymond Green.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
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Speaker 2 (29:17):
You've been avoiding? No, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Everything is fine with the Knicks rumors. We're getting MBAT,
It's fine. We're getting MBAT, gen Zion, Yes, send zoon,
We're getting all of them. We're getting everybody.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Uh No.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
A bit story that there's good and bad too, but
I'll say it's actually all good. Okay, it's coming out
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Speaker 1 (31:20):
Well a lot of fun tonight. Look, it's Monday, we're
hanging out. It's a holiday we're doing. In case you're
just tuning in whan, I'll let you know what's happening.
Tonight is forgotten TV show theme songs of the nineties
night because we had a really weird couple of minutes
in the first hour of the show where we talked
about perfect strangers and Balkis.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Don't be redculs Cascinnati. My name is a bar At
well right, And there would be no bar At without
cousin Balki. Yes, there would be no bor At. What
about cousin Vinnie? Do you hell? You don't even know who?
You don't even know who Balki bart helcam was is.
It's the cousin of cousin Vinnie. It's not No, it's
not my cousin Vinnie.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
There's a great movie not also from the nineties, but
do right, Yeah, do you know who Joe Peshi's cousin was.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Really in the movie? I thought it was cousin Vinnie. No,
he was Vinnie. Oh his name was Vinnie. So then
who are you asking who? Daniel? Daniel Laruss, don't relive
the answer. I wanted to see him sweat and squirm.
You could cho I don't think he knows who that is.
I call on you, all right, keep your hand down.
I was asking somebody else? Was that guy? That guy
(32:23):
in school? Mike? I know you know the answer. Just
sit down and shut up. Let one of the other
kids respond. It's like they suck. No, I want to
move on. I'm bored you shut up. May or may
not have had a few of those over the course
of my academic career. Should you get that answer? Right? Yes?
I did? Yeah, let's go. It's somebody else answer.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
I know.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Danny Elfman No, Danny okay, no, not Danny Elfman no,
and not Danny Bonadute. It's a dead man. Hey, quick
recovery for Danny bannaduc cheese on the Yeah, all right,
good for him. Danny Trail not Danny Trey No no, no,
not not machete. No no, not him. No. Ralph Maccio
was Vinnie's cousin. So my cousin, Vinnie. I get a
(33:09):
lawyer in the family, my cousin Vinnie. He also goes
by Ralph Irvin. Right, No, he's not Ralph. Heloha, gentleman.
I saw Ralph yesterday. Yeah you know, Ralph, Ralph. I
saw him for several hours. Say this real before we
get to before we get to the latest on the
Chris Paul trade. Uh Ralph Irvin who came to see
us in Vegas? Right, Ralph Ivan who is an update
anchor here for a long time. Look at Brian Finley
(33:30):
loves his story. Wait, there's an update anchor story. Took
his job. Yeah, he pushed Ralph Irvan off the plane
like the end of a Force one. Get off my plane.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
Uh, Ralph Irvin, who came, great dude, gentleman who came
to our Super Bowl broadcast in Las Vegas, specifically to
tell me that he had heard Aaron Rodgers to the Raiders.
Is a done deal?
Speaker 2 (33:56):
I go now the Jets Jason, I've heard it's a
done deal. It's Raider. He's coming here. He's coming. He
just wanted He's coming here your Vegas experience.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
That's why he wanted to come just so because I
want to rain on Jason Smith all days and wanted
to hang out with it. And you know what, since
Aaron Rodgers became a jet I have not heard from
him the no he is. He has become o space ghost.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
Go No.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
I made sure to come to the studio to tell hey, Jason,
I going to ruin your day. Rogers is coming here.
It's happening. Uh huh, Yeah, didn't happen where You didn't
ask him that did You didn't help me out at all?
Know you can get him on. I'm sure No, you
don't know. No, he's got to apologize to me for
I want to come ruin your day and not gonna
(34:41):
put came and hung out with you. No, we came
and said you're not getting No, that's what he did.
So now no, now he's got to pay. Now he's
in the pedalty box now until Ralph Ever calls us.
I was wrong. I was wrong. I was wrong wrong,
I was wrong. I was wrong. I rob Parker says
(35:01):
it all the time. Where did you get that from? Yes,
I just searched for that one. That's a deep cut,
thank you. It's a deep v. I could step into it.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
So the latest on the Chris Paul trade that is
in theory going through to the Wizards. Bradley Beal will
be a member of the Phoenix Suns. They're reinventing their
Big three there. We'll have more on that side of
it in a second. But the most interesting part of
today was, Look, this story was first reported over the weekend.
Here's a Chris Paul trade Bradley Beal, who he knew
(35:33):
was on the market a week ago. And we said
the Wizards hold the key to the offseason because Bradley
Beal and Chris hops Porzingis and Kyle Kuzma a couple
of are free agents, but Porzingis can opt in. But
last season's Wizards really have the key to the season
in front of them because all of them are players who,
if healthy, can put teams over the time. Beal can
do it, Porzingis can do it if he's a three
(35:55):
or a four on a team. And we see how
good Kyle Kuzma has been. But now we know the
trade coming. Okay, that's great, Bradley Beal is going to
be a son. What's going to happen to Chris Paul?
And he went on Good Morning America today. It was
a great timing. Hey, I'm gonna go on talking about
my book.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
You might want to check social media before you go on,
just to be updated on all the stories happening. And
he told the story about how he found out he
was traded. He said, I was flying in.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
New York and my fourteen year old son found out
on social media that I wasn't going to be traded.
I was going to Washington for Bradley Beal. And this
is not the first time you've heard this story, but
it's time after hearing this again, it's time to have
a conversation about it, because this is when I think
I can do things better than other people that even
(36:47):
though they have more experience at it than I do.
Because if you're the general manager of a team and
your job is to trade players and make players and
make them and trade them and move on, how do
you not call Chris Paul and at least tell him, hey, dude,
we're gonna trade you.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Why do you not do that. But, as Chris Paul said,
he had just talked to James Jones before getting on
the plane, how do you not talk to him Sunday? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (37:12):
How do you not call the guy? How do you
not call his agent? Or say, if you're the Sons,
how do you not call him? Or is a say listen,
we're trading Chris. We're letting you either you call him
directly or but you see it all the time. I
didn't know I was traded untill I saw it on Twitter.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
How do you do that? Because I got a thing?
You know, I don't know. Maybe it's just me. I
like that. Maybe I have more scruples and and more.
You know, I'm just a better person than a lot
of people. Maybe I am.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
I wouldn't call myself a hero, but I think if
I'm in charge of a team, the first thing I
would do. I'm trading a guy, say I'm gonna call
him and tell may we're trading you. You may be upset,
but you do the whole moneyball thing. Just be strained
with him, Just say.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Hey, we're trading you, Jeremy, you've been trading. Here's the name,
here's here's the eduade name of the Fuades name jam
you're a good ballplayer, Jeremy, and we wish you the best.
That's it. That's it. Just be straight with you and
I'll come. We do have a lot of references back
to money. Carlos, you've been traded to the Tigers. Is
that it? Uh huh okay, But that's I mean, I'd
(38:09):
just been straight, right, It's all uncomfortable, right, you have
breakup at uit in the the personal life and relationships
or whatever else. Professionally, usually you get sat down. Once
upon a time, you got sat down in an office
and then be an envelope in front of you or
a folder and there'd be something a quick discussion. Hey,
we need you to sign off on this blah, take
(38:32):
a few minutes to read it. We'll be out in
the hallway if you need us. This this is absurd,
Like it's so easy nowadays to get a hold of someone.
You could do the quick FaceTime call, pick up the
phone and make a call, do a quick text whatever
you've got it documented that you were at least the
ones to break the news. And it's gonna be uncomfortable.
(38:52):
It's never easy, right, But if you're having a phone
call with Chris Paul on Sunday night about the direction
of the squad and or or Saturday by by your
your timeline of this, and then just that fast it
turns into a yeah, by the way, we shipped you
out and you could have a laid that those fears
(39:15):
or taken care of it in that call.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
The party will be at eight on Sunday, and uh, yeah,
that delivery is coming at two o'clock on Wednesday, and
I had something else for you.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
Oh you're tread to the wizards by I'll see we
got we got okay, bye, come aye. Right. It doesn't
have to be the most elegant of speeches or comfortable conversations.
Odds are Chris Paul is just gonna go huh look,
and if he gets mad, he gets mad. But I
don't understand how this still happens in the old days.
I get it where sometimes you make a trade, somebody
(39:45):
hears something, somebody is on vacation somewhere, and you're trying
desperately to get a phone call to them because they're
in a foreign country and they're out on a boat
or whatever. But now, no, there's no excuse for it.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
And I don't understand how that's not the first thing
to do unless you really wanted to send a message
that you were pissed at him, and you're like, screw it,
the guy can the guy can hear from somebody else.
I don't, I don't need to call it. I'm mad
at him.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
That's the only thing I can think of with a
conversation with James Jones on the telephone. I mean, because
the way Paul laid it out, and again you take
it all with a grain of salt. He's going to
do a promotional appearance. It's only going to be so savory.
But he didn't really give much in the way of
details and and didn't go out of his way to
take a flamethrower to anybody. Just here it is. You've
(40:31):
got James and Jones and the shadow Man Isaiah Thomas
that designed it's a final mad espia. Uh and and
that's it. But it's business right like it goes back
to the old Denzel Washington. It's business never personal. It's
it's no that was Wesley Snipe because I was trying
(40:56):
to bring in King Kong got nothing on me, and
I could play it to two bombastic characters. Yeah, with
which they want to do. Yeah, yeah, uh with New Jackson,
I wanted to go back to Nino Brown here. Yeah,
And I'm a hustler at h us t L. I
celebrate Iced Tea's entire catalog too. But but just said idea, like,
if it is business, and I think Chris Paul's been
through enough of this at this point that he gets it.
(41:17):
I mean he'd seen the rumors, see you, like, whether
he was gonna get released or traded, like we've been
talking about it since the beginning of the season.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
If it doesn't work out for this team, Because no
matter what I think about this, even if you're the
Sons and you're mad at Chris Paul, right, because that's
a that's the only way I see where they say
screw it. The guy can find out. The guy can
find out because I'm mad at him for whatever reason.
You have to understand that even if that's the case,
you're the ones who look bad because you're the ones
that made the decision to trade somebody and you're upbending
(41:47):
somebody's life and you have to at least call him
and tell them you don't matter what happens, you look bad.
It doesn't And I don't get how they're doing. That's
why I means think I'd be a great champ, because
I say, hey, I'm making a trade.
Speaker 2 (41:58):
I'm gonna call you and tell you, hey, you've been traded,
or at least leave a message with you. I'll call
your agent and say, hey, can you get Chris on
the line. I don't know if he wants to talk
to me. We're making a deal. He's going to the Wizards.
They're probably gonna buy him out, and he's gonna be
able to sign somewhere else. I'd love to talk to him.
If he doesn't want to talk to me, I get it,
but you need to get him to this because this
is gonna get out soon and the trade is done.
(42:19):
But instead, oh no, no, wait, like guys are walking
office going let's see. Well, we told our owner, we
told payroll, we told all right, he's got it. When
he comes in, he's gotta get his stuff so we
can get it out. We tell anybody, Oh, we forgot
to tell the guy himself. I mean, I don't get it.
I don't get it. It's very simple and look, and
nobody likes confrontation. All right, there's a small percentage of
people out there. We see them on social media all
(42:41):
the time instigating fights and whatever else. That's fine, but
in general, in business, you have to have some level
of acumen of doing this, like, hey, you want this job.
It's not the office saying hey, do you want to
be the assistant? Yeah, you have to fire this guy.
Hey you want the job, Yeah, go fire that guy.
(43:01):
Your first thing, you have to fire that guy. Well,
I mean, that's what Brad Pitt did with Jonah Hill
right in Moneyball. Hey go, uh go, you gotta you
gotta tell me about that. But but but my kids
in the middle of the school year, Well, do not
pull your kids out of school? What the hell are
you saying? I would not believe at school, right, I mean,
(43:21):
it's it's that kind of thing. It's like you haven't Yeah,
I'm not doing that part. That's part of the gates.
It can be quick, rip the band aid off and
if they want to yell and screenbrid it's up in
the air. The old Clooney movie with Anick Anddrick before
she was doing the thing with the cups, uh and
the and and all of that is it's never going
to be comfortable. It's never gonna be easy. People have
(43:43):
their lives. They get up rooted. In this particular case,
basketball players, especially a guy of Chris Paul's age and history,
and he's moved a few times. He gets it. He
understands where he's at, and he knew where the rumors are.
Showed the man some damn respect twitter at How about
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the Mets thumping the Astro six nothing. Max Shurs is
pitching a three inter This is the way it should be.
Mike Carmon, Well, and this is why you don't get
to watch it right. We started that traditions worked.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Out for you.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
So far it has, but I really I like to
watch the games though, but I want to watch the
gaging I know, but I want to watch again.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
You've been the beneficiary of some umpiring with Mets calling
you Mets game. I think it's frauduoint. How many I mean,
how many pitches on the edges have you gotten tonight?
How many? How many?
Speaker 1 (01:16):
How many times have I gotten to see the Mets
with a six nothing lead? And yeah, doesn't happen that often.
That is a rarity here in twenty twenty three.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
I don't know that it's once.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
I do.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
I do know. I have the white Sox on in
front of me. Yeah, and Bomber has come in, ty Sher,
can we put put the Mets on? Please leave it
on the Mats. I'm glad you looked up and saw
that the Mets are on. Thanks for checking out. Well,
we're in commercial and everywhere. It's one of the on
one of the teams, Jason. Yeah, thanks, the Mets are on. Thanks? Okay,
which one are they on? I don't know, it's not
on the channel that you're thinking. It's on.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Happy Holiday? Jason, you must have been something. I bet
you got straight a's in school. I did, because you
would get like a sixty on a test, and you
would up to the teacher after classic go. But I
would have gotten this one right, except it was in
the wrong space and it should have been here and
the teacher months after a while, just so like, you
know what, what it's going to take you to walk away?
(02:07):
Right now here, I'll give you one hundred. Here you
go a A plus walk away?
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Are you talking to ty Shirt or me? Because I
certainly did that more than walk away.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
I think this is I think this question was needed
to come in later on in the test because this
is now shown, this is terribly worded.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Whatever you do, eliminate this this question? Right? What do
we do? What would just just just get rid of it? Whatever?
How's Alex Tysher? He never studies. The guy gets like
fifties in my class. Yeah, he just comes and complains
to me all the time about stuff. He's gonna make
a great litigator someday. All the time he's making an argument.
He's making an argument, making an argument. Uh so, hey,
(02:42):
big day today in the NBA. As we get closer
and closer to the NBA draft, and I you know, listen,
there's lots of places where where we could start the show.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
But I don't know that anything is better than Chris Paul,
the big Chris Paul Bradley Beal trade that has been
humming to fruition over the course of the past.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Two and a half days. And at first I said,
Larry Beal has been traded. That's amazing. I didn't think
our old friend Larry Beale, could you could you do
because he's kg O right in in ABC in San Francisco, Yeah,
left Sports Center after a long time? Could you do that? Like?
Why didn't we do that? We're gonna trade sportscasters? Would
that work? Like? Could you you get trade contract? You
(03:23):
trade sports? Hey? Like it's like somebody, Hey, we like
this guy. And they traded out Michaels for Oswald the Rabbit. No,
I mean like like sportscaster for sportscaster. Sure we could
probably like can we pulled something off like that? Like
you know, I feel like that. Larry over at Yahoo
we both were involved in Larry Beale experience. Yeah, Larry,
(03:44):
we had a good time. We had a very young staff,
like a lot of young young guys run around and
well we didn't tolerate a lot of nuts. That's and
we're supposed to start at one. We're starting at one,
so it was fun, fun ride. But yeah, no, he
has not been dealt as to my knowledge. All right, well,
Larry Beale trade him to all right, we got it's
(04:04):
gotta be market sized to market size. No, or maybe
you get maybe we doing contract for contract, like it's
the NBA.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
But what if it's like this, What if you like, hey,
we needed eleven o'clock anchor, but we also need a
five o'clock anchor and a weekend anchor.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
So we'll give you package. Do you give us the
big like you give us the the number one guy
from ABC in New York and your number on weather,
right and you and you get and you get the
number one guy and the weekend guy in Chicago. You know,
like that could work, or it goes down the way
a little bit. Start talking market size and sometimes maybe
(04:39):
maybe you got an expiring contract so you get dealt
to a place like Washington. We're just paying this guy
for the rest of this year. Can I just say
this though, like just just to jump off this conversation.
Every article talks about as Wizards begin rebuilding, like rebuilding
from what well.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
They did have the Big three last year that they
thought was a big three with Kuzman, Porzengis and Larry Beal,
and it just didn't work out. The kill the Kilbourne,
Ravich Larry Beal, the three headed monster in the nineties
and early two thousands in Sports Center was much better.
They accomplished a lot more. But look, I get they
tried to make it work and each of these guys.
(05:18):
We talked about these three players holding and the Wizards
holding the key to the offseason, because these are three
guys that could put teams over the top. And now
here you have Bradley Beal going to Phoenix, and we
have plenty of time to get into that part of it.
But today I just can't get over.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Chris Paul goes on Good Morning America because he's pushing
his book that he's got sixty one that's coming out,
and he does an interview and he says, how did
you They talked, how did you find out about the
trade that you were going to be going to Washington
And he said, my fourteen year old told me he
found about about it on social media. And then he
went on to say that Matt and Isaiah working this
(05:53):
matt Ishpia of the Phoenix suns and yes, that exact.
Isaiah Thomas, What did I tell you? What was a
big argument we had the other day. You were all
getting read in the face. You read in the face after,
but you got all read in the face about Michael Jordan.
All he did was make money. He didn't do anything.
I kept telling you. People can make moves in the shadows.
(06:15):
People could be behind the scenes and move mountain. But
we would have heard about that. Now we're here, we're
hearing that Isaiah Thomas, not the player, well I mean
not the most recent player, but Isaiah Thomas last scene,
the last scene guiding the Nick ship downward into oblivion,
is now making advisements for the Phoenix side. We actually
(06:36):
predicted this. We talked about this for a couple of months.
So the fact that this is now part of the
Chris Paul side of the discussion. And look, he didn't
throw anybody under the bus. He didn't get mad about it.
He was very just matter of fact and said it.
And that's it, right out in the open, and here
we go and behind the scenes, maybe he's pissed and
(07:00):
wants some more explanation. Said he had been talking to
the gm and front office on Sunday night and thought, well,
all right, we'll move into the next phase and boom,
you're on a plane. In a way, it goes there
to promote a book. Now, there's a couple of things
for this. Number one. You know, Jared Jeffries is somehow
(07:22):
involved in this trade. Somehow, somehow, all of these bad
players at Isaiah to Isaiah Thomas, who once made a
trade and I forget the trade.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
But I forget the trade. But he was asked about
his reaction for it, and he said, you know, it's
just so crazy that it just might work. This is
the general manager of the Knicks. Why did you make
this trade? It sounds crazy, But because it's so crazy,
it just might I kind of dig that, right, But
where that's where you try to do it in fantasy,
Like if I'm but this guy running the Knicks and
(07:52):
he says, it's just so crazy that it just might work.
And he's still calling shots for the sun, which is insane,
but more insane.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Way, I like what he did. If he was the
guy that said let's make this trade and get Bradley
Beal in and get Chris Paul out, I like what
he did. It's Isaiah This is maybe the best front
office move Isaiah Thomas has ever done, and he's not
even doing it officially. Yeah, I just have the curiosity
of how the rest of the roster shakes out there
in Phoenix. A lot of dollars, a lot of assets
(08:23):
traded away to make this happen. Right, it's the beginning
of the Kevin Costner draft day. We have no first
round picks. We've now traded all our second round picks.
We've traded most of our young talent away. And Beeble
is a hell of a player, there's no question. And
he's one of those guys that Off mentioned in The
Boy if he was only playing in someplace where it
(08:44):
mattered kind of conversation. But now you put all the
proverbial eggs in the basket of we've got a bunch
of superstars. Now you'll spin eight and off for whatever.
Although rumors are and the insiders are saying he at
this time he's not expected to be dealt. I don't
know how you bring him back given the acrimony of
(09:05):
a year plus. Even though Monny Williams is gone and
more reports today that many Williams didn't like coaching eight.
And then we take all that with a grain of
salt and trying to figure out the sources and who's
talking out of school or validity of that stuff. But
you still have to round out the rest of the roster.
And Chris Paul's gonna get bought out, Like that's the
(09:26):
side he's not gonna end out. He's not gonna end
up with Washington's gonna he gonna do with the Lakers.
Will he end up back with the Clippers somewhere? But
the side, yeah? I mean, And look and for folks
that want to get mad about what Phoenix gave up
for him, as in, it's not enough, right because we
saw that a lot from current and former NBA players
going that's it. Look at what this guy got dealt for. Yeah,
(09:48):
he had no trade clause. He had no trade clause.
I'm sure there might have been other offers that might
have been a lot better on paper. However, if he
doesn't want to go to those teams and didn't want
to play ball in that respect, then it doesn't matter.
It's a dead conversation and those will come out in
the wash over time, because it's no surprise that Beale
(10:09):
was gonna get dealt just that it comes this quickly
ahead of the draft and to Phoenix. Oh, now game
on for this offseason, Larry by now and though he's
with this Hawaiian shirts and aloha means goodbye. That is right,
he and Ralph Irvan would have gotten along right.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Oh oh, This is why I like this deal is that.
Look forget about not giving up, not giving anything up.
Chris Paul is done. Okay, now I'll be it three
years later. I remember I did. I said this three
years ago. Chris Paul has done, and he proved that
he's still had a lot left in the tank. But
Chris Paul is done. Like his thing to do now
wherever he ends up is agree to come off the
(10:48):
bench and run the second you didn't play twenty minutes
a night, because he's got nothing left. He's got no
legs by the time it gets to the playoffs, and
he's just a guy. And but yet his status as
a star merits that you play him, merits that you
play him big minutes. And you have to be really
strict and firm and say, listen, dude, we think you
you know, we think this is your role because when
(11:09):
you're counting him to be one of the Big Three
forget it.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
I mean, look at Phoenix. I mean they completely were
outrun by the Nuggets in the playoffs and I thought, hey,
getting KD was going to be great, but it was.
Hey guess what it was not enough? Well, but that
was the bet you were making, was that those guys
are going to say healthy and over the course of
the season they all missed time, right, But come playoff time,
if your floor general isn't there, it all falls apart. No,
(11:35):
and you can't you can't count on him to be
a big part of the team anymore. So he's done.
He's not done playing, but he's done being a big player.
He really was done about a year and a half ago,
but with Phoenix and paying him and the memory of
going to the final and how closely were to winning
a title until what happened. Phoenix lost because Chris Paul
started playing too much basketball.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
He had to play every other night. By the time
it got to the NBA Finals, he hit the wall.
That's what happens, what happens to a lot of players now.
So yeah, that's why I like it, because Bill is younger,
he's more dynamic, and they're gonna they're gonna score and
they're gonna be a lot easier to score. Chris Paul's
talent and what he did for the team does not
bring enough of what Bradley Beal and his near you know,
(12:17):
eight years younger legs and his ability to score and
put points up is going to be. Now you have
three big time scorers on the team, and you could
be able to feed a positionless NBA. Now you can
figure out how you're gonna share the basketball and how
things are going.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
We need a facilitator. That's the that's the thing that's
missing in this equation. Thomas he's gonna come down. Well,
he's gonna come down fifth anniversary, make his biggest games.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
I'm making the trade and I'm going to play. So
that's how it's gonna go. Yeah, Isaiah is gonna do it.
It's all Isaiah.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Well, they'll need him Isaiah because Booker showed at points
he could be that guy. But right now, you have
four ball stoppers, four scores. That's great. You have one basketball. Yeah,
and you have nobody on your roster that can facilitate that.
But I know they're in the buy out market and
trades and you know whatever else. Free agency holds. You're
(13:07):
gonna look to cobble together the rest of this roster,
and it's gonna be a great experiment, right to see
if you can make this work. Because I remember how
bull as you were. They're gonna win by fourteen points
every game.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
They were doing great, and then Kevin Durant got hurt
and then uh slipped in a layup line. Yeah, I
know we were here, we were watching it happen.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
When did he go? What the hell? As long as
he's healthy in the layup line? You know, they're a
team that even even now would still be Are they
gonna be healthy? And how do you treat the regular
season like we're we're in a new experimental phase? Load management?
Be Damn, this is a much bigger thing for teams
(13:46):
of all, right, how do we get to game eighty
three regular seasons? All finding good? But are we healthy
for what the next two and a half months bring?
And with Phoenix right now, you've got to build out
the rest of the roster. How many games is Kevin
Durant playing this next year? Yeah? But you know, but
I'll look at it as you know, when when you
put these teams together, Now you understand that that that's
(14:08):
going to be the challenge, right all going all way
back to the Heatles, right, well, how are they all
going to play together? Dwayne Wade does this lebron to
you know what? Okay, they fill it out with you
know that with with players who are lower, lower caliber,
not making a lot of money, you're taking chances on
some guys can do one thing.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
So I know that that's part of the gig now.
So that's why I don't I don't think it's too
much for them to overcome because this is what you do.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
It's not oh, we got them, not what do we do?
Oh my god, I have no idea. Is anybody having it?
Let's call isaiahs It is Isaiah Thomas. It is. You
just torpedoed. Your entire argument just went to hell because
I tie it back up by showing you a picture
of Isaiah Thomas. Yeah, it is Isaiah Thomas. So there
is that.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
But that's more of what goes along with the gig now.
So I feel okay with that. I loved I love
this trade. I love this move for the Suns. I
love it. Bradley Beal, Larry Beale, I love it, I think.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
And then one Porzingis Exercises is your option, and Kuzma
hits the open market. Washington can really just start over
Twitter at how about a Fresca?
Speaker 1 (15:07):
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(15:29):
ball off his wrist. I'm thinking, of course, the Mets
can't have nice things, but we'll have more on this trade.
And I can't believe we're actually talking about Isaiah Thomas.
It's such a cool night. We're shocking off we're talking
about Isaiah. But we have another big story out of
the NBA and a big one out of the NFL.
It's coming up next right here, Jason and Mike Fox
Sports Radio. Let me let me give you a challenge,
(15:53):
Alex ty Shirt. We're gonna challenge you for the rest
of the show tonight and maybe because of this, we
won't hear any more tears for fears. We spent some
time last hour, I mean really was fun reflecting very
organically on Perfect Strangers TV show of the nineties with
Mark Lynn Baker and brons Up and Shallos Balkie Bartalcon
was don't be a de les Uh yeah again, there
(16:16):
would be no boor at without Balkie So and you
played the theme song the Perfect Stranger.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
I did ruse and fu so the rest of the night.
When we when we starting, when we're starting all our conversations,
I need from you a TV theme song from the.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Nineties, and you can go as obscure as you want,
but it's got to be a show that people have seen.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Hmmm, all right, so you already do this sometimes some guys.
Actually no, you're usually in the CV theme song from
the nineties, right, And you can't pick like Cheers or now.
You got to pick something.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
If it's an anime show, again, it's got do you
show that people have seen?
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Oh stop it, people have seen those what what have
they seen? A lot? Like what? Neon Genesis is one
of the biggest nineties anime in the world. Genesis was
a band in the eighties, Collins no longer sings for
them here too much. This was the spinoff called Neon
Neon Jens because in the nineties they painted themselves like highlighters.
They were trying to reinvent themselves. Hey, there's more color
(17:21):
in the nineties. You know, we got we had all
the big reds and the Mike Rutherford was a fluorescent pink.
About Cowboy Bebop that's another great anime. Uh isn't that
the song they played when the Cowboys score a touchdown? Thankfully? No,
you play Cowboy Bebopbop was by those other guys. Hanson, Yeah,
Tyler Taylor, Taylor, There's Taylor, Tyler Taylor. There's William Henry Harrison.
(17:46):
I died in thirty days. It was no, it was
Taylor was the really talented one. He was the drummer
in the second and there was the older, the tall one,
and then the younger kid who played the drums, m
Bob Bob Bob do Taylor. There's a Joshua Joshua is
John Hanson, Isaac Guru Isaac. Yeah that sounds right, Isaac Hanson, Okay,
(18:07):
very good, Yeah, Guru, John Hanson. He became a fantasy
football analyst. Sure, no, okay, all right, so there you go,
ty Shirt forgot. Let's do that forgotten TV theme songs
from the nineties. Let's do it that way, forgot forgotten
TV theme songs of the nineties. That that that'll that'll
that that'll figure it out that way. All right, Fine,
that'll be the best thing, right right again? All right,
(18:28):
so forgotten theme songs of the nineties. Okay, and then
I also challenge you to give me a new anime
from the nineties every time, too. Uh Baku gone right? Right?
Is that the opposite would be back?
Speaker 1 (18:42):
No, Baki ghan was Isn't that like the the the
one level lower of Pokemon?
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Right? Isn't that pretty? Sure? That was a monster in
Godzilla that he find No, Bakia gun is a thing?
Hang with which era of Godzilla? Are we talking the claymation.
Oh we're talking Rubber Suitzi school. Yeah, Baki gun battle
plan it Baky gone battle brawlers. There's cards and games
and everything. Yeah. See it's not Pokemon, right, it's like
but it's the same thing.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
It's like Pokemon got popular. Hey, let's come with something
very much like it, like the Okay, great, and now
now we have it like when Army, Like when Armageddon
came out, it was Hey, let's do something just about
deep impact.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
All right, great, we'll do that. That'll be fun.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Hey we have all these these couple of good Walking
Dead zombie movies. Let let's let's put all kinds of.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Rip off TV shows and zombies we can get out there,
and we're gonna extend that universe as long as we
can bleed money from it. Raz and full. So like Meagan,
ever since Jeffrey Dean Morgan, ever since he was killed
off of Grey's Anatomy, he was spoiler.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
I was just gonna start watching season one, episode one
of Gray's Anatomy.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Now, they really dragged his an Izzy storyline out a
little too long before she left. But he's been on
that you say left, okay, all right? How many seasons
now for Graising Anatomy like twenty Oh okay? Kind of
cheese me off, though, So my older daughter was really
into it, right, so I decided I'm gonna unk her
down and I'm gonna watch it on a streaming service.
(20:12):
I'm gonna catch up ahead of the season, but catch
you no, No, I got ahead up until she's got
a very good mind, said like, like we do here
with sports or whatever, where you compartmentalize it and you
can recall it. Right, this storyline is no, I get it,
but you're gonna try to catch up to twenty seasons
of twenty episodes. But I was working out and doing
other things. I'd have it streaming in the background, and
(20:34):
I finally catch up and the season premiere comes this
two years ago. She goes, oh, I'm not watching it anymore. Well,
because it took you so long to catch up. She
was done because it wasn't just no, but it was
coming back. And then like she was done and she
was ready, and I'm like, all right, I caught up,
so we can watch the new season and talk about
it together and have this bonding moment. She said, beat it.
I don't watch it anymore. Man. Sure.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Now I feel you though, because we did the same
thing with Supernatural, and it was we fifteen seasons of Supernatural.
I thought watching Agents of Shield seven seasons of Agents
of Shield was a lot, but fifteen seasons because every
every season is twenty some on episodes. And here's a
bad guy vampire covin the zombie, here's God and the
(21:16):
Devil and death and all this, and every week it
was Dean and Sam and Baddie in the week and
I'm like, wow, twenty seasons.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Man, that was smooth. Yeah, but at least with Agents
of Shield you had Ming Ming Nah, I did, and
we had Fifthnivers sure but sure, uh yeah yeah, And
what's it? No? No, no, no, Henry Simmons was in it.
And who else he hung out with Mark Paul Gosler
he did, Yeah, they were They weren't partners in NYPD Blue. No,
(21:43):
he was partners with Metal Clany, who was also Shock
from an Out. And now we've come all the way
back to sports. They always say when you talk movies,
bring it back to sports. Just cart it back to
eight man out. So Draymond Green is now going to
be a free agent, and we talked a few minutes
ago about how look, if you're the Warriors, I hope
it's just fake interest in Yeah, we want to bring
(22:06):
you back. Hey, we really want you, so it doesn't
look like we're kicking a guy to the curb that
helped us build a dynasty. But you're just not good enough.
I think you're doing if the price is right, I
just But if he's opting out of a one year,
thirty six million dollar deal, he's hoping to do exactly
what James Harden did. Is I want to get back
now maybe a three year ninety million dollar deal, or
(22:29):
I take less money for one year, but I get
more overall. And that's what I'm hoping to do, because
if I could do this one year at thirty six million,
but then what am I going to get after that?
But if I'm out now, I can get three years.
That's what he's hoping to do. And it's not that
he doesn't have value. Draymond Green has value, but he
has value as an over the top guy for an
(22:49):
NBA title contender, a team that says, you know, what
we're missing is his attitude, his defensive prowess and the
intangibles he brings to the team. That's what we need,
and that is value for this year or next year.
That's huge value. But for the Warriors, it's dude, you
can't build. You can't bring him back and say the
same three guys, we're gonna do it. When Klay Thompson
(23:11):
is not the same guy and Draymond Green is not
the same guy, You're just not talented enough. You got
knocked out in the second round by the Lakers, who
are actually older than you are. And you think you're
gonna bring this, bring the three guys back, they're already.
We got to move on from Jordan Poole, who knows
about Jonathan Kaminga and all these guys that thought were great, Uh,
guess what, not working. It's a reload on the fly.
(23:31):
It's very difficult.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
I get it because they meant a lot, but you know,
you have to make these sound decisions. And for Mike
Dunleavy Junior, who certainly worked with the team and worked
his way up and got the promotion, he doesn't nearly
have the the loyalty to Clay and Steph and Draymond
like Bob Myers did. So hopefully it's easier to move on. Still,
(23:53):
isn't gonna be difficult, But hey, if we made an offer,
but we want to bring you back, but hey, you
got this offer from the Knicks or the Celtic or
the Grizzlies or the Nuggets or whatever it's going to be, Hey,
you should probably take it because that's where he has value.
But coming back is a lynchpin for the word, No,
Warrior's got to get They gotta dump everybody and they
got to get better.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
They got to reload on the fly and not waste
Steph who is still scoring thirty some odd points a
game with thirty four years old. Yeah, it's the big
curiosity to it is how much loyalty and does the
bridging out of Myers allow for a reset? Obviously you're
coordinating with Steph and Steve Kerr to try to figure
out what the next iteration is. Can remember Steph and
(24:33):
his exit was really pointed in is Hey, this guy's
going to be a key pointing to Jordan Poole's locker.
And that's something done Levy talked about a little bit today. Hey,
he's under contract for four years. It's our guy. But
as we know, again if the price is right, anything
can be had and anything can happen in this marketplace
(24:54):
is as long as you have your coaches and star players. Blessing.
But Clay is now not the same guy in any way,
shape or form. Back to back nights playoff series, they
gave away two games to the Lakers, right, And that's
the thing, and that's the margin of error where we're
at in this across the NBA. Is they gave away
(25:14):
two games they should have won in the fourth quarter
because they didn't have enough size to get the key
rebound or to make a play and spread the offense.
Those things weren't there, which why porzengis showing up is
going to solve all of that. See what I did there,
I just put big weight on his shoulders to do that.
But with Klay Thompson, shot was off right. You can
(25:35):
tell me it was Denver's big bodies and stuff flying
past him. His accuracy was terrible and he can't create
space for himself right, even the quick step to try
to get a better shooting lane, it's not as fluid
as it was. Is that coming back off an injury?
Is it still needing time? Well? How much time do
(25:56):
you need? And that's another, you know, another year on
the odometer as it flows. With Jordan Poole, Is he
ever gonna be a complete player? No, but he's a
good offensive player and the contract you signed him to
makes him gonna be He's gonna be very difficult to
move if you did decide to go in that direction, right,
So that's part of the process of all right, if
he becomes your second unit, second line score and this
(26:19):
kind of play together just fine. But in terms of
paying out Draymond and Claye to top of market contracts,
you can't do it. No, It's kind of like, well,
you're more bullish on the Phoenix move, and obviously it's
a great of an incomplete because we don't know what
the roster looks like. But you're basically trying to do
the same thing. All right, we're gonna keep these guys
who aren't elite scorers besides Steph at a high rate
(26:43):
and then build around it. You just saw it didn't work.
It didn't get you through. And even if you say, well,
with this and this, we could have beaten we should
have beaten the Laker spine, you're still getting drummed by
the Nuggets. Right if you had advanced, you're still gonna
get beaten down, Like you don't match up with that
squad at all. So you still need to do a
lot of work and reconfigure some of those salaries so
(27:04):
you make the best good faith, save face effort. But
the reality is you're hoping that the dollar amount is
not enough but not insulting where you usexty because you and.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
You also need the team to look like, hey, I'm
gonna go there and they'll treat me right. And I'm like, boy,
these guys just won, you know, you know, there's won
five championships.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
And when it went bad, you'll cut those guys.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Look, you're just kicking them to the curb. So you
have to do it the right way. But I also
I also see Draymond and Clay that understand that, and
that Clay is like, listen, if you don't, I can
go to the Lakers and I'd love to go there.
I'd like, hey, you know, where's the destination you'd like
to go to where you think for a couple of
years you could do.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
It because there's no shame in doing that. It's so
I'm hoping that that's what it is. But if it's like,
if you decide we're gonna bring we're really gonna bring
these guys back and give them all kinds of money
you can't don't give You don't give people money for
what they've already for services already run right, you know
you can't. That's the one thing we always talk about, right,
and every once in a while you do add that
transcendent superstar where you recognize what the end of the
(28:04):
road looks like for your squad and you over pay
them grossly for what they've done. See the final years
of the Kobe Bryant contracts. But outside of that, you know,
it's a it's a losing formula. And I did like that.
There was a faux Draymond Green account that was getting
a bunch of folks earlier Todaymond Green account. It was
(28:26):
Draymond not the real you sure wasn't somebody It was
Raymond Okay, so kind of going on, Okay, a darn
chef road, but the idea of boy lebron can't wait
to get to late and play with you, didn't you?
Step were getting pretty excited, said Draymond Green. Right yeah,
Draymond Green. No, sid it sounded like you said, sound
like you said dream No no no, I said Draymond Green. Again.
(28:48):
Sounded like you had an m there at the end. No, no, no, Draymond,
I said Raymond Green.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Again, sounded like you said the end h Tonight's show
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(29:15):
why it's all good. Is this the Nick story.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
You've been avoiding? No, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Everything is fine with the Knicks rumors. We're getting MBAT,
It's fine. We're getting MBAT, gen Zion, Yes, send zoon,
We're getting all of them. We're getting everybody.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Uh No.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
A bit story that there's good and bad too, but
I'll say it's actually all good. Okay, it's coming out
next right here Jason and Mike on Forgotten nineties television
show theme song night here.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
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Speaker 1 (31:20):
Well a lot of fun tonight. Look, it's Monday, we're
hanging out. It's a holiday we're doing. In case you're
just tuning in whan, I'll let you know what's happening.
Tonight is forgotten TV show theme songs of the nineties
night because we had a really weird couple of minutes
in the first hour of the show where we talked
about perfect strangers and Balkis.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Don't be redculs Cascinnati. My name is a bar At
well right, And there would be no bar At without
cousin Balki. Yes, there would be no bor At. What
about cousin Vinnie? Do you hell? You don't even know who?
You don't even know who Balki bart helcam was is.
It's the cousin of cousin Vinnie. It's not No, it's
not my cousin Vinnie.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
There's a great movie not also from the nineties, but
do right, Yeah, do you know who Joe Peshi's cousin was.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Really in the movie? I thought it was cousin Vinnie. No,
he was Vinnie. Oh his name was Vinnie. So then
who are you asking who? Daniel? Daniel Laruss, don't relive
the answer. I wanted to see him sweat and squirm.
You could cho I don't think he knows who that is.
I call on you, all right, keep your hand down.
I was asking somebody else? Was that guy? That guy
(32:23):
in school? Mike? I know you know the answer. Just
sit down and shut up. Let one of the other
kids respond. It's like they suck. No, I want to
move on. I'm bored you shut up. May or may
not have had a few of those over the course
of my academic career. Should you get that answer? Right? Yes?
I did? Yeah, let's go. It's somebody else answer.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
I know.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Danny Elfman No, Danny okay, no, not Danny Elfman no,
and not Danny Bonadute. It's a dead man. Hey, quick
recovery for Danny bannaduc cheese on the Yeah, all right,
good for him. Danny Trail not Danny Trey No no, no,
not not machete. No no, not him. No. Ralph Maccio
was Vinnie's cousin. So my cousin, Vinnie. I get a
(33:09):
lawyer in the family, my cousin Vinnie. He also goes
by Ralph Irvin. Right, No, he's not Ralph. Heloha, gentleman.
I saw Ralph yesterday. Yeah you know, Ralph, Ralph. I
saw him for several hours. Say this real before we
get to before we get to the latest on the
Chris Paul trade. Uh Ralph Irvin who came to see
us in Vegas? Right, Ralph Ivan who is an update
anchor here for a long time. Look at Brian Finley
(33:30):
loves his story. Wait, there's an update anchor story. Took
his job. Yeah, he pushed Ralph Irvan off the plane
like the end of a Force one. Get off my plane.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
Uh, Ralph Irvin, who came, great dude, gentleman who came
to our Super Bowl broadcast in Las Vegas, specifically to
tell me that he had heard Aaron Rodgers to the Raiders.
Is a done deal?
Speaker 2 (33:56):
I go now the Jets Jason, I've heard it's a
done deal. It's Raider. He's coming here. He's coming. He
just wanted He's coming here your Vegas experience.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
That's why he wanted to come just so because I
want to rain on Jason Smith all days and wanted
to hang out with it. And you know what, since
Aaron Rodgers became a jet I have not heard from
him the no he is. He has become o space ghost.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
Go No.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
I made sure to come to the studio to tell hey, Jason,
I going to ruin your day. Rogers is coming here.
It's happening. Uh huh, Yeah, didn't happen where You didn't
ask him that did You didn't help me out at all?
Know you can get him on. I'm sure No, you
don't know. No, he's got to apologize to me for
I want to come ruin your day and not gonna
(34:41):
put came and hung out with you. No, we came
and said you're not getting No, that's what he did.
So now no, now he's got to pay. Now he's
in the pedalty box now until Ralph Ever calls us.
I was wrong. I was wrong. I was wrong wrong,
I was wrong. I was wrong. I rob Parker says
(35:01):
it all the time. Where did you get that from? Yes,
I just searched for that one. That's a deep cut,
thank you. It's a deep v. I could step into it.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
So the latest on the Chris Paul trade that is
in theory going through to the Wizards. Bradley Beal will
be a member of the Phoenix Suns. They're reinventing their
Big three there. We'll have more on that side of
it in a second. But the most interesting part of
today was, Look, this story was first reported over the weekend.
Here's a Chris Paul trade Bradley Beal, who he knew
(35:33):
was on the market a week ago. And we said
the Wizards hold the key to the offseason because Bradley
Beal and Chris hops Porzingis and Kyle Kuzma a couple
of are free agents, but Porzingis can opt in. But
last season's Wizards really have the key to the season
in front of them because all of them are players who,
if healthy, can put teams over the time. Beal can
do it, Porzingis can do it if he's a three
(35:55):
or a four on a team. And we see how
good Kyle Kuzma has been. But now we know the
trade coming. Okay, that's great, Bradley Beal is going to
be a son. What's going to happen to Chris Paul?
And he went on Good Morning America today. It was
a great timing. Hey, I'm gonna go on talking about
my book.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
You might want to check social media before you go on,
just to be updated on all the stories happening. And
he told the story about how he found out he
was traded. He said, I was flying in.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
New York and my fourteen year old son found out
on social media that I wasn't going to be traded.
I was going to Washington for Bradley Beal. And this
is not the first time you've heard this story, but
it's time after hearing this again, it's time to have
a conversation about it, because this is when I think
I can do things better than other people that even
(36:47):
though they have more experience at it than I do.
Because if you're the general manager of a team and
your job is to trade players and make players and
make them and trade them and move on, how do
you not call Chris Paul and at least tell him, hey, dude,
we're gonna trade you.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Why do you not do that. But, as Chris Paul said,
he had just talked to James Jones before getting on
the plane, how do you not talk to him Sunday? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (37:12):
How do you not call the guy? How do you
not call his agent? Or say, if you're the Sons,
how do you not call him? Or is a say listen,
we're trading Chris. We're letting you either you call him
directly or but you see it all the time. I
didn't know I was traded untill I saw it on Twitter.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
How do you do that? Because I got a thing?
You know, I don't know. Maybe it's just me. I
like that. Maybe I have more scruples and and more.
You know, I'm just a better person than a lot
of people. Maybe I am.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
I wouldn't call myself a hero, but I think if
I'm in charge of a team, the first thing I
would do. I'm trading a guy, say I'm gonna call
him and tell may we're trading you. You may be upset,
but you do the whole moneyball thing. Just be strained
with him, Just say.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Hey, we're trading you, Jeremy, you've been trading. Here's the name,
here's here's the eduade name of the Fuades name jam
you're a good ballplayer, Jeremy, and we wish you the best.
That's it. That's it. Just be straight with you and
I'll come. We do have a lot of references back
to money. Carlos, you've been traded to the Tigers. Is
that it? Uh huh okay, But that's I mean, I'd
(38:09):
just been straight, right, It's all uncomfortable, right, you have
breakup at uit in the the personal life and relationships
or whatever else. Professionally, usually you get sat down. Once
upon a time, you got sat down in an office
and then be an envelope in front of you or
a folder and there'd be something a quick discussion. Hey,
we need you to sign off on this blah, take
(38:32):
a few minutes to read it. We'll be out in
the hallway if you need us. This this is absurd,
Like it's so easy nowadays to get a hold of someone.
You could do the quick FaceTime call, pick up the
phone and make a call, do a quick text whatever
you've got it documented that you were at least the
ones to break the news. And it's gonna be uncomfortable.
(38:52):
It's never easy, right, But if you're having a phone
call with Chris Paul on Sunday night about the direction
of the squad and or or Saturday by by your
your timeline of this, and then just that fast it
turns into a yeah, by the way, we shipped you
out and you could have a laid that those fears
(39:15):
or taken care of it in that call.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
The party will be at eight on Sunday, and uh, yeah,
that delivery is coming at two o'clock on Wednesday, and
I had something else for you.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
Oh you're tread to the wizards by I'll see we
got we got okay, bye, come aye. Right. It doesn't
have to be the most elegant of speeches or comfortable conversations.
Odds are Chris Paul is just gonna go huh look,
and if he gets mad, he gets mad. But I
don't understand how this still happens in the old days.
I get it where sometimes you make a trade, somebody
(39:45):
hears something, somebody is on vacation somewhere, and you're trying
desperately to get a phone call to them because they're
in a foreign country and they're out on a boat
or whatever. But now, no, there's no excuse for it.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
And I don't understand how that's not the first thing
to do unless you really wanted to send a message
that you were pissed at him, and you're like, screw it,
the guy can the guy can hear from somebody else.
I don't, I don't need to call it. I'm mad
at him.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
That's the only thing I can think of with a
conversation with James Jones on the telephone. I mean, because
the way Paul laid it out, and again you take
it all with a grain of salt. He's going to
do a promotional appearance. It's only going to be so savory.
But he didn't really give much in the way of
details and and didn't go out of his way to
take a flamethrower to anybody. Just here it is. You've
(40:31):
got James and Jones and the shadow Man Isaiah Thomas
that designed it's a final mad espia. Uh and and
that's it. But it's business right like it goes back
to the old Denzel Washington. It's business never personal. It's
it's no that was Wesley Snipe because I was trying
(40:56):
to bring in King Kong got nothing on me, and
I could play it to two bombastic characters. Yeah, with
which they want to do. Yeah, yeah, uh with New Jackson,
I wanted to go back to Nino Brown here. Yeah,
And I'm a hustler at h us t L. I
celebrate Iced Tea's entire catalog too. But but just said idea, like,
if it is business, and I think Chris Paul's been
through enough of this at this point that he gets it.
(41:17):
I mean he'd seen the rumors, see you, like, whether
he was gonna get released or traded, like we've been
talking about it since the beginning of the season.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
If it doesn't work out for this team, Because no
matter what I think about this, even if you're the
Sons and you're mad at Chris Paul, right, because that's
a that's the only way I see where they say
screw it. The guy can find out. The guy can
find out because I'm mad at him for whatever reason.
You have to understand that even if that's the case,
you're the ones who look bad because you're the ones
that made the decision to trade somebody and you're upbending
(41:47):
somebody's life and you have to at least call him
and tell them you don't matter what happens, you look bad.
It doesn't And I don't get how they're doing. That's
why I means think I'd be a great champ, because
I say, hey, I'm making a trade.
Speaker 2 (41:58):
I'm gonna call you and tell you, hey, you've been traded,
or at least leave a message with you. I'll call
your agent and say, hey, can you get Chris on
the line. I don't know if he wants to talk
to me. We're making a deal. He's going to the Wizards.
They're probably gonna buy him out, and he's gonna be
able to sign somewhere else. I'd love to talk to him.
If he doesn't want to talk to me, I get it,
but you need to get him to this because this
is gonna get out soon and the trade is done.
(42:19):
But instead, oh no, no, wait, like guys are walking
office going let's see. Well, we told our owner, we
told payroll, we told all right, he's got it. When
he comes in, he's gotta get his stuff so we
can get it out. We tell anybody, Oh, we forgot
to tell the guy himself. I mean, I don't get it.
I don't get it. It's very simple and look, and
nobody likes confrontation. All right, there's a small percentage of
people out there. We see them on social media all
(42:41):
the time instigating fights and whatever else. That's fine, but
in general, in business, you have to have some level
of acumen of doing this, like, hey, you want this job.
It's not the office saying hey, do you want to
be the assistant? Yeah, you have to fire this guy.
Hey you want the job, Yeah, go fire that guy.
(43:01):
Your first thing, you have to fire that guy. Well,
I mean, that's what Brad Pitt did with Jonah Hill
right in Moneyball. Hey go, uh go, you gotta you
gotta tell me about that. But but but my kids
in the middle of the school year, Well, do not
pull your kids out of school? What the hell are
you saying? I would not believe at school, right, I mean,
(43:21):
it's it's that kind of thing. It's like you haven't Yeah,
I'm not doing that part. That's part of the gates.
It can be quick, rip the band aid off and
if they want to yell and screenbrid it's up in
the air. The old Clooney movie with Anick Anddrick before
she was doing the thing with the cups, uh and
the and and all of that is it's never going
to be comfortable. It's never gonna be easy. People have
(43:43):
their lives. They get up rooted. In this particular case,
basketball players, especially a guy of Chris Paul's age and history,
and he's moved a few times. He gets it. He
understands where he's at, and he knew where the rumors are.
Showed the man some damn respect twitter at How about
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being finalized. Bud coming up next. Got a big story
out of the NFL. Two stars say we'd like to
play together somewhere next year.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
But is it a really good idea? I don't know.
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