June 23, 2023 • 44 mins
Jason Smith and Mike Harmon react to the ongoing NBA Draft as picks are coming in, the rumors of the New York Knicks trying to make a splash and trade for Paul George, and so much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:29):
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being honest with you. When I was in the kitchen
putting my stuff away before I came into the studio,
talker and I and I glanced, but hey, you know
what I had. I had McDonald's tonight. Because when you talker,
because you know both of you guys, when you when
your guys cholesterol dropped seventy points between between doctor's appointments,
come back and see me, get some facts and come
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back and see me soccer.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
He's in the kitchen and he had my donna.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Back and see me seventy points, seventy points a drop.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Yeah, we're high. It was seventy. Oh was high. Oh
it was high. It was high.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
That's really you're burying the lead where.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
You can.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Takes all you too. You can see to twenty now
now it's now, it's at one fifty. Wow. Yeah, budd,
he's a Knicks fan. Yeah. Some good drugs, man, I'm
feeling good. Oh yeah. The statins are wonderful. Uh, it's
the one.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
It's the one medicine that every doctor says, Yeah, Stattin's
are great. Statton's are great.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Stats. I'm like, okay, take a stat I'm like.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Yeah, oh, my dolls will say instead of a get
out a treadmill, it's here's a well.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Certain things help a lot of things. I'm seventy seventy points.
But maybe my eyesight wasn't so good because I swear
when I walked by and you know ESPN's got the
draft and it says the Lakers were drafting. Yeah, and
it says Laker needs and I did a double tap.
I did one of those like a movie double takes
look back because it said Lakers needs ball boy.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
True, but ball handler.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
I mean if we go to indeed dot com, we
might be able to find that. I really thought for
a second it said Lakers needs ball boy. Well, they're
gonna draft this guy. He could carry seven basketballs at once,
put him on the rack, pass him out for you
to shoot threes before the game. Oh, this is a
can't miss kid right now. Well, Heed's more efficient than
other would be ball boy.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
I mean I want to see that. Now you can
find one on craigslist. Mike, Yeah, they got it.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
Pay Now that's a whole other world of employment. We're
starting to get into there. It's a very inefficient ball boy.
We're gonna have to let you go.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Well, let's just it. Well, funnel the ball.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
You hurt the ball out to Lebron when he was
looking to fire a three properly.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
This is a basketball team. So you brought footballs. Yeah,
but they're fun. And now you're fired. You made Anthony
Davis been down too many times to get to receive
the inbound pass and it hurt his back. You want
that ball, repetitive stress and hurting and the game, everybody's
going to pass it to you that cleanly. Now about
you try to try to reach and grab one.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
And the kid me says, did you not recognize that
I was a ball boy at the University of Iowa.
That's how we do passes into the post. It's a
low bounce pass.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
So, yes, the Lakers just selected and now we are
pick eighteen Frost for Freshman of the Year of the
Big ten. I know, I give you the nod because
I thought it was going to be Cam Whitmore, because
he is just, oh, what do you know about bound draft?
I thought it was going to be you were ripe.
I give you all the that's a good yeah, I'm
telling you. I can't believe I kept whitting More still
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out there. I thought he would go somewhere early in
the top ten. He's a guy that's just falling, falling
and falling and falling.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
But yep, that happens.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Wind selected early Brandon Miller, despite naming Paul George the
Goat stills.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
But you know what upsets me when.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
You saw the odds on that fluctuating all day.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
And I don't think.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
The insiders recognize the weight of their tweets, their leanings there. Hey,
you haven't tweeted in ten minutes, so say something that
gets people excited. Yeah, that also gets the markets excited
and starts moving odds.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Now we're gonna get to wem Binyam in a second.
But I was really upset. There's only one person more
upset than me when I saw this. Okay, because here's
what we are nowadays in twenty twenty three. You know,
the Thompson Twins gets selected back to back in the
first round. Right, this is where I may call them
a dream, right, because I know, right away here comes
people saying, oh, doctor, doctor, the Thompson Twins. Oh hold me, now,
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the Thompson Twins gonna take right. It's so secondary. And
I'm upset because I go, you know that that's a
thing that before all the Thompson to it. But everybody
knows that now. The only person more upset would have
been Chris Berman, because you know he would have loved
to have that go. If he's doing the NBA draft.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
No, that's true.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Actually there were three in the Thompson twins group, but
twins meaning too, so you had two meaning three, but
just too taken back.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
To back back back back back back back round of
the draft. Speaking of twins, has Grady Dick been drafted yet? Uh? Yeah,
yes he was.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
Yes, he has finally been able to click his heels.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Yes he was. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
I like that.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
I like the click your heels thing. I love the click. Well,
Kansas pretty smart, TJ you know who's note he's not anymore.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
So Look, we have a lot of NBA draft to
get to, but let's kick it off. The number one
overall pick in the draft. We all thought it was
coming still hocket All right, wait you got it, Wait
to hang on, Okay, Jimi hawk Has did not go
number one.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
It was an excited he's just all fired Up's.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Like my microphones over. Jimi Hawkes did not go number one.
To the heat him.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
Just wait, well he but here's He's a good story though,
because he was a late addition.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
To the green room, you know, and we use that in.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
Quotes because earlier this week wasn't expected to be there
and all of a sudden started to get a little
bit of buzz and they flew him out and now here.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
He is going to Miami.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Well, Miami said the things they the things they need.
Number one was somebody with really good hair. And so
that's you know, he absolutely fits the bill on that.
He and Tyler Hero we talked about, I mean style twins.
But look at Hawkess's hair. I mean, that's that's glorious.
I mean, I mean he should not. Don't put a
hat on, man, don't put a hat. But I mean, look,
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are you contractually obligated to actually put the hat on
your hand? That's the question. Can you just hold it up? Now?
Is he kind of looks like a young lat On
a little you can see that, but Slaton doesn't that.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
But the long he looks like Either that or.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
You can dress him up and he could be one
of the three Musketeers. Yeah, yeah, he's got going there.
Tell you howk has going to the heat. I hate
good hair, that's a big thing. Now, But the guy
battle tested, played played on a team. There's no bas allowed.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Hang on, so hey, hot take better hair now in
my Miami Himy Hawkes, pat Riley, better hair better. Ronnie
there too, that's a hot take pat Riley ready to
pass the torch hopefully maybe that maybe that's why they
drafted it at least. Yeah, I've had the best hair
for a long time. I shouldn't be doing this. I'm
ready to give it over to somebody else. I'm gonna
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give it to you now. Uh So this is where
we're at right now, Hawkes and his hair drafted by
the Heat number eighteen overall. The first down of the
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we knew it was coming, it was gonna be here,
but still a great moment to hear the overall number
one pick. Everybody we thought was going number one gets
announced with the first pick in the twenty twenty three
NBA Draft, the San Antonios first select Victor Wehm Banyama.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Non tar Cramp.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Yeah, silver is you know, Silver's Silver's like six eleven
and wembin Yama comes up but it looks like Silver's
like five.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Six Hey, yeah, nice to meet too. How you do it?
Very good?
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Yeah, Adam Silver comes in at six three six y four,
so not a small man. But I mean look at
me when guys are in the studio with us.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Yeah right, I I.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
Look like I should have at least three or four
phone books to make it respectable.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
The thing is, I'm thinking about the phone but yeah,
that's another joke. So exactly.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
The thing is is that with wembin Yama and you've
seen all his skill, you've seen everything on display. It
was great that he played for Mets ninety two in
France and did so well because you know, the ninety
two Mets were terrible.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
And good for times.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
They've made millions off of jersey cards from when he
threw out the first pitch autograph cards tonight.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Good for them. Mets ninety two were bad.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Mets ninety two was was Jeremy Burnit's and Todd Hunley
and Burnit's was fun.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
For while it was there was a bad team.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
He was kind of like a throwback to those UH
Tigers teams where everybody hit two forty but had a lot.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Of home runs. MM Okay, yeah, that's about right.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
He had a couple of those guys run, he would
have his stats, he would have his right foot over
his left foot, Johnny Walkin, So they get Wembin Yama
and again the greatest prospect since Zion? Who is the
greatest prospect since Lebron? Who's the guy prospect? Obviously being
and and being seven to five according to whoever you
listen to, because he from seven to three seven five, Like,
(09:32):
I love that. It's not even known how tall. Well,
he's seven five, but is he really well, you go
to many sources. I'll say seven four, some say seven three,
some will say seven to two.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
But seven to five is where he's now.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
Well, but that's the NBA for years, right, patting an
extra couple of inches on the height to make it
like the wrestlers, right, Shack, Was he really seven three?
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Was he seven foot? Does it really matter? Now?
Speaker 4 (09:54):
Right? It really doesn't matter once you're that tall.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
It's it looked the size only, Matt.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
If you're talking about if you're gonna be a big
careful and if your hand is really small on your quarterback,
that's true eight and three quarters inches.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Good luck. Kenny Pickett blah.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
But I'm not telling you want to talk about. The
only concern about wehm bin Yama, and this is a
big deal. I'm serious about this, is that it's the
same thing with Zion Williamson, except it's about the other
side of the weight. Because Zion the only worry I
said when he came in the league, look at his heaviness.
Look how he comes in as the second heaviest guy
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in the league already. Is he going to be able
to withstand the pounding of an NBA season? And right
away we see the answer is no. He's injured all
the time, right and obviously obviously he's got other stuff happening,
but he is injured all the time. Now you have
wem Benyama, who is in it's seven anywhere between seven
three seven five, goes about two hundred and fifteen pounds,
which is for his height, is less than the median
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weight an of the of an NBA player, right, so
two fifteen he's less He's less than the median wave
of an NBA player. So I'm not worried about him
banging with the because he's going to be a big
that that is out on the on the perimeter.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
He'll got that.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
He's not somebody that, hey, I'm gonna get down low,
I'm gonna post up, and it's going to be elbows
and stuff all the time. But the only thing is
his frame is light for now. And can he withstand
the pounding of a full NBA season, and by full season,
I mean sixty games and then allegedly the playoffs, not
eighty two games, sixty games and he's.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Got to go sixty five because he wants to win
an award? Right?
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Can he withstand the stress of the sixty sixty five games,
which we're not going to know until he plays, because
you don't play, You don't play seasons like that when
when you're that young, Yeah, you play aau games, when
you play overseas, you play seas, But sixty sixty five
games in playoffs. NBA is a man's league. And and
Kenny with stand Kenny stay healthy? Or will his body
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not be able to stand up to the riggers of
the NBA because that was the one thing when Lebron
came in as an eighteen year old, the one thing
you saw was man, he's his body is he's a
Greek god at eighteen? Yeah, he is absolutely physically ready
to come in and play with everybody else ween Ben
Yama's it's it's it's the other side of it is
that you look seven five and two hundred and fifteen pounds,
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can you get up and down the floor all the time.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Look at chet Holmgren. How long did he make it
last year? You know?
Speaker 1 (12:17):
And he you know, he go he won about eight
and he and he he didn't make it even through
summer League. So that's the that's the biggest thing is
that you know, hopefully he can because with all this
it's great for the NBA. I'd love to see a
great new star coman guy seven five shooting threes, maybe
just reaching over from the three point line and just
putting the ball togeod.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
But is he gonna have that? Can he withstand that
pounding of the NBA.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
That's the thing, well, we've talked about it for years,
you and I doing the show here together at night.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Is look at all the big guys and the.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
Troubles with ankles and knees and just joints in general, right,
hip degeneration, all of those things curious to see. Right,
if you're gonna play in a style where you've got
to move and you're running up and down the court
as opposed to going and backing into the low.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Post, et cetera. How much how much wear and tear
can you withstand that way?
Speaker 5 (13:07):
Right?
Speaker 4 (13:07):
Not a matter of just getting beat up, like because
that's the other side of it. Now you're physically you're
gonna have guys that let's face it, you're you're being
called the generational guy. What happens, You're gonna get the
best run from all of the would be tough guys
across the NBA, not that they're gonna be dirty about it,
but you're gonna get a body on you, and they're
gonna test you time and again. And we've seen so
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many times guys land awkwardly with better frames, right, thicker frames,
all that, and still have myriad injuries. And no, I'm
not just talking about Anthony Davis, but we talked about
all of those, all seven footers, right, It's always a
concern when we get them out there, how long do
their their ankles and knees hold up with this kind
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of traction in the way the NBA game flows these days,
gonna be fascinating. I wish him the best. We've already
heard about them for multiple years?
Speaker 5 (14:01):
Did it waits what Jason did in his whole take there?
What's that he put the Spurs in the playoffs? No,
he had to, he had He's gonna be the player
of all time. O trust me, trust me. Greg Berhalter
is coming in to coach the Spurs. It's gonna be
helmet to be justifying. Pick a fight with the star player.
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Speaker 1 (14:32):
Slash match, Yeah, first time he doesn't switch on a
double boom when min Yama coming out of the game
after just eighteen seconds, Oh, I guess, I guess time
out and sat him down.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
But I mean it rejuvenated. I mean this is like
a favorite Popovich for being a voice and taking a
lot of heat for the league.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Never guy, so you can coach Robinson and Duncan and
Yama guys jelling you guys.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
Conspiracy theories abound, man, trust me, that's the only thing
Ken he was dead. That's the only right we talked about.
It was Zion. It turned out to be true. Hopefully
it's not with Wembin Yama, but that's the thing.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
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Speaker 1 (15:16):
We are pick number twenty eight right now, near the
end of the first round of the NBA Draft, Rick
Victor Webbinyama going number one overall to the San Antonio Spurs.
Not surprising, big surprise, falling all the way through the draft, falling, falling, falling,
before finally get taken number twenty. Cam Whitmore from Villanova,
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Haimi Hakez goes number eighteen to the Miami Heat. Finally
someone to challenge pat Riley for best Yeah, that's good
on the team.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Nick Smith Junior from Arkansas just got picked.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
And I was just actually showing you a clip Madeline
had sent me where they, you know, people play around
with lyrics and put some movie clips or whatever, and
it was kind of odd the one that had but
it was the same song where it's the you know
nothing new one it looks like Ben through it. Nick
Smith Junior looked like he'd had a rough night and
now he's got of breaking down as he's he's getting interviewed.
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But I love that in the little synopsis on the
lower third right at the bottom of your screen, as
he was getting announced, it said crafty score.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
No, it's good craft Hey, hey, crafty's a good thing.
You want to be called usual. Only left handers are
called crafty, that's right, But now craft crafty South Paul
uh and Lakers take Jalen Hood Schafino out of Indiana.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Ye go, they needed a ball handler. They got a
ball handler.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
If I'm D'Angelo Russell, I'm going uh oh h hey.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
He plays my position. Yes, yes, yes he does. He's
gotta be a lot cheaper. You're gone, Yes he does,
Yes he does. Oh my goodness. Uh. But the big
trade rumor that we're gonna get you, we got.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
We got Rick Buker coming up about fifteen to break
down everything we've seen so far tonight. What we could
see trade wise is the Clipper and the Knicks have
had conversation. Now they are only conversation, Nick. The thing
has happened. They are only conversations. The Knicks and Clippers
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have had conversations about Paul George the goat, Paul Drege.
Maybe the Knicks heard Brandon Miller call him the goats.
Well we can get the goat. Oh, let's go get
Paul George.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
We can go make does that?
Speaker 1 (17:25):
But now it is only conversation, only conversation, but they
are talking to Paul George trade. And the first thing
I'm gonna say is I hate to say I told
you so because I don't, but I told you the
Knicks are gonna make a big trade this offseason, A
huge one.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
Is that the guy you want?
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Though, because even though he's the goat, and no, because
well he's the goat, I mean, he's a big trade.
They have so many assets to trade that they can
move on from. Now that they are Jalen Brunson driven
and they have a deep roster. Can they move on
from RJ Barrett one hundred percent? Can they move on
from Julius Randall one hundred percent?
Speaker 3 (18:00):
And to be off the board? Do that right? So
you can trade a couple of good players for a
really good player. And it was a move.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
When I first saw it, I was like, ah, but
I came around to it pretty quick. Because Paul George
is a lot like Chris tops porzingis where he needs
to just let him. You need to let him just
play in the shadows. You can't ask him to be
a leader. You can't ask to say step up and
do this, but you say, hey, just go play and
do your thing. Don't worry about leading, don't worry about
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making big shot. Just be Paul George and things will
work out. It was an All Star this year. Look,
the guy's been first team All NBA. He's guy's been
All Star six times. Paul George is pretty good.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Now. Is he someone that you would get to say, hey,
you're our guy. No way.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
But if he can operate in the shadows, meaning hey,
when it comes down to it, there's a couple of
guys we're gonna trust or we need to make a
shot before you will when he gets down down to
crunch time. Now, obviously, with by virtue of his name,
if the Knicks traded for him, he would that would
ratchet itself up a little bit. But in the end,
Paul George is still a pretty good player. Does he
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handle the clutch great? No, he does not, But hopefully
he won't have to because he'll be Jalen Brunson taking
all of these shots. But he's still someone who fills
the stat sheet and who is still can be a
really good player for the next couple of years. So
I went from being oh, dude, no, I'm coming around
to this pretty quickly. The Knicks needs somebody else that
can make shots. That's the one thing that cried out
(19:26):
at the end of the Heat series is that if
you double team Jalen Brunson, you stop him from being
able to get a shot off.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
Well, guess what, good.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Luck, because Julius Randall isn't one of those guys that
can just I'm gonna mellow you off the ball by
holding the ball up over my head and then take
a jumper. No, the Knicks needs somebody else who can score,
and they saw that RJ. Barrett is not that guy. Right.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
RJ.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Barrett's a good player, but he is not that number
two game streak. Yes, and he'll go zero for ten
in game six. When you need him, he'll go I'll
have one for thirteen games. So they know they need
somebody else who can score. Paul George can score, and
if that's the move to go get it. That's a
huge move. Even though I'm not the biggest Paul George fan,
you can't deny what he does, what he brings to
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a team, what he can do across the board, And
as long as he's not brought in to be the savior,
things will be okay. I'm hoping he can handle New
York if they wind up making this trade. But the
fact that it's Brunson's team, I'm feeling good about it.
But the Knicks are gonna do something big. I told
you were gonna happen. Whether it's Paul George something else,
they're doing something big.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
It's one that certainly here in Los Angeles, we're looking
for all the dominoes to fall, and we've been having
rumors about the Clippers perhaps breaking things up. We talked
with Mark Medina a little last night and that was
one of the things that was starting to percolate a
little bit that maybe it was time. And the thought
within the Clippers organization was that they took their swings
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at things with the dual Kawhi Leonard Paul George two
headed monster at the top. But it didn't work because
you couldn't keep both of them on the court together,
which is one of the huge concerns and one of
the things Tom Thibodeau and the brass of the New
York Knicks would have to deal with. But certainly when
he's on the court, you look at him. Fifty six
(21:09):
games played averaged about thirty five minutes a game. So
there's one that you've got to figure out how to
massage that, particularly the style of play in New York, right,
it's a grind. Not that they haven't done that with
the Clippers, but we've seen what that's yielded through the Clippers.
But twenty four points a game, forty five percent from
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the field, six boards, five assists per game, you'll take that.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
You'll take that box score. But it's going to be
an idea of how you manage his minutes and Bruntson's
seemingly the leader in all all way, shape and form.
I don't know that anybody's disputing that. It's brunts and culture.
You talk about heat culture, it's brunts and culture. Brunts
and culture, Jalen culture. What do I like to get traded? Yeah,
Jalen culture.
Speaker 5 (21:53):
Frostburg that you keep putting that into I mean the
Knicks don't have a pick, so maybe they package Jalen
Brunson in and get a picked him.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
He's the biggest bargain in the NBA. He's got three
more years and seventy five million left on his contract.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
He's twenty five or shady. That was a fantastic deal.
Here was no shame was no shady, absolute shame. The
Knicks went to the game and sat in the front
row that has held the Mavericks up. He said, hey, hey,
talk to talk to dad. No, make this happen. Never
got a seat at the table.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
No, No, there's I'm going to take out your girlfriend
behind your back, and then there's I'm going to make
out where they're right in front of you.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
That's what the Knicks did with it with the maps. No,
they kind of did that in a big way.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
And we've been talking about some of the dollars and
whether they make any cents with some of these other players.
We talked a lot about Chris Middleton last night at
forty million, but you look at Brunson, He's sixteen million
dollars less. Allows you to do much more with your
roster as you rebuild and retooled. Paul George if he's
ready to go. He's shown he's happy being a number
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two guy, wants the ball at times down the stretch.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
That's good. You need another guy like that because.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Time do you want to not every every place like
what he was. He was not a guy that was
taking over games. This is the point, right, and he
finds his role at this point. So when we look
at the Knicks and what would be left of that roster,
because to make the salaries match, you start doing the well,
there's Julius Randall probably shuffled down. I mean I made
(23:21):
the joke about it, all right, who's on the billboards
with Kawhi Leonard this coming year? Right, because we got
to keep street lights over spotlights going well, I mean,
he could put himself up there.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
And the urinals. Mike, don't forget those power for your.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
Teen hundred plus pressure?
Speaker 3 (23:36):
Do I know that?
Speaker 1 (23:37):
I don't know, but I remember that day. You know why,
because you're over forty now, so you know that. That's
why it's like, ah, I know, hey, can I go
to the bathroom a lot easier in a game? Yes,
that's what I need. And the medicines don't help. Yeah, no, no, no, no,
it's not good for anybody. I made hydrate.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
What do I tell you, man?
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Where do I want to sit in the concert on
the aisle so I can get to the bathroom as
possible to get.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
We always always try to sit either the last row,
like to Ringo last week, last row with the section
step right out where you.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Go where we sat for Morris Day. But I was like, ah,
it's only gonna be seventy five minutes. I think I'm good.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
They yeah, they were great, four people there.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
No, they folded out the seats they put him down
for He was pretty cool legit.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
They took the tape off the seat where the coming
to preach out in the park.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
So look, if this winds up to be a cha,
I'm good with it. I'm good with it, good with
it for the Clippers because honestly, the Clippers have been
sticking with this. Oh we just have to keep waiting
for Kawhi. But it's not happening at this point. It's
like everybody used to say, when Shack starts making his
free throws, not happening.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
He was never making his free throws.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
He wasn't incentivized to make his free throws.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
It's we're waiting, We're we're all but Kawhi and Paul George,
if they're healthy, if they can get to again. It's
year after year after year of that. It's not working.
Kawhi can't stay on the court. When he gets on,
he and Paul George are not enough. Paul George has it.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Can't.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
It can't happen. It can't.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
You gotta move on. You go move on. You gotta
go on to what is next. You've become a destination.
It's not difficult if you're the Clippers to get stars
to come play. It's not Hey, you brought Kawhi and
you brought Paul Georgian. What you did was you took
the Clippers what Steve Balmer has done after buying the
team and getting Kawhi and getting Paul George's.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
You took the Clippers from.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Absolute irrelevance and you brought them up to Hey, uh,
this is it. Come here. We're gonna have her own arena.
Everything's gonna be great. You can be a star. Kawhi Kine. Hey,
obviously things are going okay for me. He's collecting a
lot of money, he's playing when he can Paul George
made a lot of money.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
Hey, you can go there, they'll.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Pay you out, they'll treat you Okay, all right, yeah,
suddenly I don't want to go to the Clippers now.
Now you've made the Clippers a destination, so you don't
have to worry about Well, if we say goodbye to
this star, what no, no, no, you trade Paul George,
get get RJ. Barrett back, get RJ Barrett Obi topping back.
If that's the trade needs to be. I'm doing this
trade for the Knicks right now. Get whatever you need
back because you need something else, because you can't keep
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holding on to four years of well if just if
all of these things can happen, If it takes four
years and all these things aren't happening, they're not gonna happen. Well,
the other part, and this is where it becomes the
old lessons we've talked about for many years on the
program of sunk costs, because there's always the look, what
we gave up to get this guy that still will
(26:19):
swirl about in columnists musings on potential trades and Paul
George and what he is and everything else is you
gave up all these first round picks. Yeah, it was
a five count Gallinari who at the time could still
play at Shay Gilgess, Alexander who's become well available and
on the court one of the great scorers and a
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rising player in this league.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
That's great.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
Oklahoma City's going to be pretty fascinating to watch the
next iteration of their squad. But when we look at
the Paul George side of it is, you're not getting
those picks back. You can't unring the bell, and you've
got to look at the last four years and say
do we need more of it? You got a good roster, right,
everybody loved the roster going into this season, and everything
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has to be contingent upon the Itali sized dot dot
dot if healthy.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
How about you move past that worry about the health
of Kawhi.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
I mean they vetoed a trade yesterday because of potential
health questions. How great was that?
Speaker 3 (27:19):
And we were first on it.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
Wait, they actually looked at the medicals before saying yes.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
See, like Mike Dunleavy Junior, don't press end, don't reply
and say deal, I'll send over the paperwork. Wait, did
I really just.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
Add two picks to that?
Speaker 1 (27:34):
We just wait, wait, wait, wait wait So oh I
thought we were getting a first and second round pick
with Chris Paul. Oh, now we're trading Jordan Poole and
oh that's not gonna been ohay, I'm disappointed that Chris
Paul didn't end up a Clipper.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
That's a bad optic.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
I'm disappointed in up a laker. Well, we're running to
be up a laker for his entire Crit's never gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
We're wishing not evil on me. Ricky, Bobby, you're trying
to get there. You were really trying to make that happen.
I think that's why you're not wearing sleeves today.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
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Speaker 3 (28:07):
Well here we are, smack dab midway through the NBA
Draft first round, getting ready for the second What do
we like?
Speaker 4 (28:16):
What do we not like?
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Victor Wembin Yamago's number one overall Chris Paul is traded.
Earlier in the day of the Golden State Warriors. Warriors
trade away Jordan Poole. They also trade away a first
and second round pick. The Knicks could be getting Paul George.
There is no one better to talk to than the
man in the line with us right now Fox Sports
one analyst. Check out Us on the Ball podcast with
(28:38):
Rick Buker. It is Rick Buker. Rick, what's happening?
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Buddy?
Speaker 6 (28:41):
Oh, Live in the dream? Live in the dream, my friend,
live in the dreams?
Speaker 3 (28:45):
All right?
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Well, before we get to the draft, I gotta start
with this because I got you, you Peaud, my interest
immensely today when I saw the Chris Paul draft, I said,
the Chris Paul trade, I said, the Warriors need to
be getting younger and more dynamic, not older, because it's
not how you do it. They make the trade, they
get Chris Paul. You like it, you say, it's one
(29:06):
of the most sensible things they've ever done.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
Tell us about it.
Speaker 7 (29:09):
Yeah, Well, because if they tried to split the difference.
They tried to stay with the core and chase the
championship and infuse it with young talent, and it didn't work,
you know.
Speaker 6 (29:24):
They that's the reason they went in the direction of
trying to kind of force feed James Wiseman and develop
him and develop Jonathan Kaminga and Moses Moody and they
finally realized, look, we need if we're gonna milk another
championship out of Steph Curry and Clay and Draymond, then
we have to get guys who are ready and committed
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and dedicated to trying to win a ring, that motivation
of winning a ring, And certainly you get all of
that in Chris Paul. Now keep in mind, wh we're
any of the traits that we're talking about, all of
these are fueled in part because of the new collective
bargaining agreement coming in. And it's not by accident that
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Golden State is making a move and moving Jordan Poole
or that the Clippers are looking to make a move
and change things up, because those two teams have the
most expensive rosters and just their ability to even improve
in any way will be majorly compromised. So the deal
(30:34):
for Chris Paul from a financial standpoint, makes a ton
of sense because he's on a one year deal. They
get they get him for this year and then he
comes off the books. That that was the opposite of
Jordan Poole. Second, from a basketball standpoint, their number one
(30:54):
issue is that they turn the ball over too much.
They don't take care of it. And Jordan Poole per
minute was the biggest culprit. He was supposed to be
the guy that ran their second unit, and he did.
He ran it into the ground. And what Chris Paul
will give them, And I presume that he's going to
be coming off the bench, or if he does start,
(31:16):
it will be like, we don't have to play Steph
seventy seventy five games. We could play him sixty comfortably
and start and start Chris Paul. But for the second unit,
now you can use Chris Paul along with Jonathan Kaminga
and Moses Moody, and he can organize that second group
(31:36):
because he's not going to be looking to score. He's
one of the best lob throwers in the league, so
certainly he's going to be able to find find those
guys and assist. The turnover ratio. He's still top five
in the league, and I think averaged close to nine
assists last year. So I just see from a financial standpoint,
it makes a ton of sense. And for what the
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Warriors were lacked, which was when Steph came off the floor,
when Draymond wasn't on the floor, they were a mess.
And whatever you think of Chris Paul and where he
is right now, the one thing he's going to be
able to do is organize your team and he's going
to be able to get you into your sets. And
that was sorely missing for them. So that's why I
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presuming that Chris Paul is just willing to come in and.
Speaker 7 (32:24):
Play whatever role is necessary.
Speaker 6 (32:26):
I like the deal.
Speaker 4 (32:27):
Should have known that Mike Dunleavy Junior spoke way too
strongly about Jordan Poole's contract the other day, Rick, in
terms of his place along here. All right, let me
do it for my sleeveless partner over here. He's rocking
the gun show tonight, Rick, because it is draft night. Yeah,
he's been posing and doing all sorts of weird things
here in the studio. The New York Knicks potentially in
(32:49):
the market to go find themselves some Paul George we
get rid of street lights over spotlights, and Jason would
have a new guy to either love or hate on
a nightly basis. What do you think of the rumors
here and what would be going back to the Clippers.
Speaker 7 (33:03):
Yeah, it's a great question.
Speaker 6 (33:06):
What would be going back because r.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
J Barrett Obie topping Boom. I just did the train
right there.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
It's all done.
Speaker 6 (33:17):
It makes sense for where those guys, well, I'm trying
to think. I'd have to look to see how a
lot of I mean number one is what would it
do financially? Would they get any financial relief from doing
a deal like that? And then the second part is
they look it's They're no secret. They were in the
(33:38):
market for Chris Paul, they were in the market for
Malcolm Brogden. They need a point guard in the worst way,
and outside of jillen Brunson, I don't know that there
is one that you would say as a bona fide
playmaker on the nick. So if that deal would happen,
I would think that the Clippers have something else going
(33:59):
on or that it would not be a straight uh,
it would be a three team deal because that that
has to be their primary focus is how do they
wind up with a legitimate point guard playmaker, especially if
Paul George is in the deal, because he's the closest
thing to a playmaker and a and a ball handler
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that they have.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
Rick.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Can we close the books on any potential Zion trade? Now?
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Is that done?
Speaker 6 (34:27):
Is done because I think I'm not mistaken. If I'm
not mistaken. The last time I was on, you guys
are very hot about uh, some some reports coming out
that Zion was going to be moved and and I
told you they were, they were listening, but it was
going to have to be a deal that they simply
(34:48):
couldn't refuse, and and that's that wasn't forthcoming. So look,
short of something still being put to together, I would
say we can put it to bed. That we put
it to bed for the time being. If he comes
back and plays, or you know, something else bubbles up
(35:10):
and then I think it's revisited. This is the one
thing we can take away from from from what we've experienced,
or at least from what I've heard over the last
month or so, is that they're not wed to Zion.
And I believe I heard you guys on with Mark
Stein might have been last night and your commentary afterward
(35:31):
about you know, just it being difficult for a market
like that to pull the trigger, which I agree one
thousand percent. It's it's knowing what he's capable of and
knowing that you're never going to get that in free agency. Man,
he's really got to convince you that it's not going
to work, and they're just they've opened the door that
(35:54):
it might not work, but they're they're not really willing
to walk through it at this point. So if something
else comes up, that may change. But the distinction is
they're open to the idea if something something made sense
and they felt like they could get a similar starback.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
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off the charts. Here.
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Speaker 3 (36:54):
Number one.
Speaker 4 (36:55):
Victor Wembayama, Uh, It's finally happened after all the build
up rates. He finally got to walk to the stage
and shake hands and now he's got to be the
greatest player ever or it's a failure.
Speaker 6 (37:07):
Yeah, yeah, which is really I think that san Antonio
is going to tamp down those expectations real quick. I
think everybody thinks that that that san Antonio is going
to Now now they've got Webb and Yama, here they go.
They're going to take off. And from what I've been
hearing is like they're going to take a very slow
approach in terms of developing him and developing their teeth.
(37:27):
They're not going for broke. I would not I would
not be surprised if they were in the lottery one
more time before we see this team start to take off.
So I and and how that affects the view of
Webb and Yama is going to be very interesting as
(37:48):
far as media is concerned. I'm already forward, I'm already
putting it in fast forward and imagining like people getting
up that with Pop and the Spurs suggesting that they're
undermining Wemba and Yama's career because they are going to
(38:09):
take a very patient approach. I do believe that, in
knowing a little bit about the kid and hearing the
interviews that Pop is not going to get pushed back
from the kid. He just seems to be mature and
wise beyond his years. And it's one of the reasons
(38:31):
why I believe that we're seeing the international players are
suddenly they're the ones that are playing for MVP, and
they're the ones that are being considered for the number
one pick, or if not the number one pick, the
best player in the draft. We you know, big picture,
if I'm an American, if I'm a US basketball fan,
(38:56):
I need to start looking at is what's going on
with our system that we're not that the rest of
the world is not only caught up with us, but
they appear to be passing us in terms of the
young talent that is coming into the league, not only
in terms of it's their their overall skills, but their
(39:18):
maturity and approaching how to be a professional athlete. I
just you know, I'm looking at who won the championship.
It was a Serbian and a Canadian who was competing
for MVP. A Serbian and a Greek slash Nigerian Uh
(39:41):
and Joel Mbii from the Cameron, Like, we need to
start looking at like, what are we doing with our
young players? How are we bringing them up? What kind
of culture an atmosphere are they coming up in? Because
they they're not They're not the shine light of of
(40:01):
the NBA right now, and I don't think unless something changes,
I think this trend is going to continue.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
Now. Now, the one thing Rick and great stuff there,
because that's a huge jumping off point we're going to
have after But the one thing I have about wem
beIN Yama is I kind of feel the same way
I did when the Pelicans drafted Zion Zion. The one
big question, boy, his weight is an issue right because
Zion was the second heaviest guy already in the league.
Is he going to be able to withstand the pounding
(40:29):
of an eighty two or now sixty five game season,
because that's what stars play. And the answer has been
a resounding no. Webin Yama goes seven to five, two
hundred and fifteen pounds, that's already on the lighter side
of of NBA players. He's going to get everybody's best shot.
Is his body going to be able to withstand just
the up and down pounding of a sixty five games
during the course of the season in the playoffs, because
(40:50):
that's a big thing, not that something you think he's
going to be fragile and brittle, but you don't know
until you get him out there, because he's never he's
never played anything like this before.
Speaker 6 (40:57):
No, it's very true. One of the one of the
reason why I think that that he, uh, he might
be capable of that is because there's a lot of
agility and flexibility in his body, even compared to say
Chet Holmgren. I look at Chet Holmgren, and there's a
certain he's not just skinny, he's a little bit stiff,
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and this guy is just so so kind of fluid
and agile, and I think that that makes a difference.
I also look at the way the game is played.
It's not it doesn't require the same kind of brute force.
So is he going to have to get stronger, Yes,
(41:44):
without without question, he's got he's got to put a
little bit of weight on. But there's that fine line
of you got to get up and down. And so
you know, the players today are built more like marathon
runners than they all are you know, linebackers or or
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or any other type of athletes. And so I look
when we're all guessing, and a lot of this comes
down to just the structure, you know, the musclature and
the skeleton frame and and all of that, and the symmetry,
which is like you know that that there sometimes there's
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no way of finding out until you put somebody through
an eighty two game season to find out whether they're
capable of enduring it. But I'm I would say that
I'm probably more worried about chet Holmgren having his body
break down than when be Yama because I just see
I see a little more fluidity and athleticism and range,
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and I think that that it's one of the reasons
why I Thinkawhi Leonard has run into what he's run
into because he's got He's really strong, but he's he
is He's not particularly agile. He's stocky and strong, but
there's not a lot of fluidity to his game. And
what I know is, you know, once a guy that's
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built like that gets one injury, the ability to compensate
for it is limited. It starts to hit other joints
because they just don't have that range of motion and
inflexibility that allows him to compensate for it.
Speaker 1 (43:20):
I feel so seen in that last bit of analysis stiff,
lacking mobility, and once one thing happening, it's kind of
rolls over another.
Speaker 6 (43:29):
I am, I am speaking from some personal experience there,
so it's why I know it.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
Well, he was reading right off your bio, Mike, He's
going right right round. Go to read off of Harmon's bio.
Speaker 6 (43:39):
Here, there you go exactly.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
He's on Twitter at Rick Bucker. That is at Rick Bucker.
Rick as always, buddy, Thanks so much. And when the
Knicks get either Paul George or Joel Embiid later on tonight,
we'll call you back.
Speaker 6 (43:53):
Sounds good dat Wait, I won't be waiting by the phone.
Speaker 3 (43:57):
You're the mess by Rick
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it was high. It was high.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
That's really you're burying the lead where.
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Takes all you too. You can see to twenty now
now it's now, it's at one fifty. Wow. Yeah, budd,
he's a Knicks fan. Yeah. Some good drugs, man, I'm
feeling good. Oh yeah. The statins are wonderful. Uh, it's
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are great. Statton's are great.
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Stats. I'm like, okay, take a stat I'm like.
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Speaker 1 (01:55):
Certain things help a lot of things. I'm seventy seventy points.
But maybe my eyesight wasn't so good because I swear
when I walked by and you know ESPN's got the
draft and it says the Lakers were drafting. Yeah, and
it says Laker needs and I did a double tap.
I did one of those like a movie double takes
look back because it said Lakers needs ball boy.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
True, but ball handler.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
I mean if we go to indeed dot com, we
might be able to find that. I really thought for
a second it said Lakers needs ball boy. Well, they're
gonna draft this guy. He could carry seven basketballs at once,
put him on the rack, pass him out for you
to shoot threes before the game. Oh, this is a
can't miss kid right now. Well, Heed's more efficient than
other would be ball boy.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
I mean I want to see that. Now you can
find one on craigslist. Mike, Yeah, they got it.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
Pay Now that's a whole other world of employment. We're
starting to get into there. It's a very inefficient ball boy.
We're gonna have to let you go.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Well, let's just it. Well, funnel the ball.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
You hurt the ball out to Lebron when he was
looking to fire a three properly.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
This is a basketball team. So you brought footballs. Yeah,
but they're fun. And now you're fired. You made Anthony
Davis been down too many times to get to receive
the inbound pass and it hurt his back. You want
that ball, repetitive stress and hurting and the game, everybody's
going to pass it to you that cleanly. Now about
you try to try to reach and grab one.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
And the kid me says, did you not recognize that
I was a ball boy at the University of Iowa.
That's how we do passes into the post. It's a
low bounce pass.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
So, yes, the Lakers just selected and now we are
pick eighteen Frost for Freshman of the Year of the
Big ten. I know, I give you the nod because
I thought it was going to be Cam Whitmore, because
he is just, oh, what do you know about bound draft?
I thought it was going to be you were ripe.
I give you all the that's a good yeah, I'm
telling you. I can't believe I kept whitting More still
(03:47):
out there. I thought he would go somewhere early in
the top ten. He's a guy that's just falling, falling
and falling and falling.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
But yep, that happens.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Wind selected early Brandon Miller, despite naming Paul George the
Goat stills.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
But you know what upsets me when.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
You saw the odds on that fluctuating all day.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
And I don't think.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
The insiders recognize the weight of their tweets, their leanings there. Hey,
you haven't tweeted in ten minutes, so say something that
gets people excited. Yeah, that also gets the markets excited
and starts moving odds.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Now we're gonna get to wem Binyam in a second.
But I was really upset. There's only one person more
upset than me when I saw this. Okay, because here's
what we are nowadays in twenty twenty three. You know,
the Thompson Twins gets selected back to back in the
first round. Right, this is where I may call them
a dream, right, because I know, right away here comes
people saying, oh, doctor, doctor, the Thompson Twins. Oh hold me, now,
(04:47):
the Thompson Twins gonna take right. It's so secondary. And
I'm upset because I go, you know that that's a
thing that before all the Thompson to it. But everybody
knows that now. The only person more upset would have
been Chris Berman, because you know he would have loved
to have that go. If he's doing the NBA draft.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
No, that's true.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Actually there were three in the Thompson twins group, but
twins meaning too, so you had two meaning three, but
just too taken back.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
To back back back back back back back round of
the draft. Speaking of twins, has Grady Dick been drafted yet? Uh? Yeah,
yes he was.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
Yes, he has finally been able to click his heels.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Yes he was. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
I like that.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
I like the click your heels thing. I love the click. Well,
Kansas pretty smart, TJ you know who's note he's not anymore.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
So Look, we have a lot of NBA draft to
get to, but let's kick it off. The number one
overall pick in the draft. We all thought it was
coming still hocket All right, wait you got it, Wait
to hang on, Okay, Jimi hawk Has did not go
number one.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
It was an excited he's just all fired Up's.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Like my microphones over. Jimi Hawkes did not go number one.
To the heat him.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
Just wait, well he but here's He's a good story though,
because he was a late addition.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
To the green room, you know, and we use that in.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
Quotes because earlier this week wasn't expected to be there
and all of a sudden started to get a little
bit of buzz and they flew him out and now here.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
He is going to Miami.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Well, Miami said the things they the things they need.
Number one was somebody with really good hair. And so
that's you know, he absolutely fits the bill on that.
He and Tyler Hero we talked about, I mean style twins.
But look at Hawkess's hair. I mean, that's that's glorious.
I mean, I mean he should not. Don't put a
hat on, man, don't put a hat. But I mean, look,
(06:29):
are you contractually obligated to actually put the hat on
your hand? That's the question. Can you just hold it up? Now?
Is he kind of looks like a young lat On
a little you can see that, but Slaton doesn't that.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
But the long he looks like Either that or.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
You can dress him up and he could be one
of the three Musketeers. Yeah, yeah, he's got going there.
Tell you howk has going to the heat. I hate
good hair, that's a big thing. Now, But the guy
battle tested, played played on a team. There's no bas allowed.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Hang on, so hey, hot take better hair now in
my Miami Himy Hawkes, pat Riley, better hair better. Ronnie
there too, that's a hot take pat Riley ready to
pass the torch hopefully maybe that maybe that's why they
drafted it at least. Yeah, I've had the best hair
for a long time. I shouldn't be doing this. I'm
ready to give it over to somebody else. I'm gonna
(07:18):
give it to you now. Uh So this is where
we're at right now, Hawkes and his hair drafted by
the Heat number eighteen overall. The first down of the
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(07:42):
we knew it was coming, it was gonna be here,
but still a great moment to hear the overall number
one pick. Everybody we thought was going number one gets
announced with the first pick in the twenty twenty three
NBA Draft, the San Antonios first select Victor Wehm Banyama.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Non tar Cramp.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Yeah, silver is you know, Silver's Silver's like six eleven
and wembin Yama comes up but it looks like Silver's
like five.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Six Hey, yeah, nice to meet too. How you do it?
Very good?
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Yeah, Adam Silver comes in at six three six y four,
so not a small man. But I mean look at
me when guys are in the studio with us.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Yeah right, I I.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
Look like I should have at least three or four
phone books to make it respectable.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
The thing is, I'm thinking about the phone but yeah,
that's another joke. So exactly.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
The thing is is that with wembin Yama and you've
seen all his skill, you've seen everything on display. It
was great that he played for Mets ninety two in
France and did so well because you know, the ninety
two Mets were terrible.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
And good for times.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
They've made millions off of jersey cards from when he
threw out the first pitch autograph cards tonight.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Good for them. Mets ninety two were bad.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Mets ninety two was was Jeremy Burnit's and Todd Hunley
and Burnit's was fun.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
For while it was there was a bad team.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
He was kind of like a throwback to those UH
Tigers teams where everybody hit two forty but had a lot.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Of home runs. MM Okay, yeah, that's about right.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
He had a couple of those guys run, he would
have his stats, he would have his right foot over
his left foot, Johnny Walkin, So they get Wembin Yama
and again the greatest prospect since Zion? Who is the
greatest prospect since Lebron? Who's the guy prospect? Obviously being
and and being seven to five according to whoever you
listen to, because he from seven to three seven five, Like,
(09:32):
I love that. It's not even known how tall. Well,
he's seven five, but is he really well, you go
to many sources. I'll say seven four, some say seven three,
some will say seven to two.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
But seven to five is where he's now.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
Well, but that's the NBA for years, right, patting an
extra couple of inches on the height to make it
like the wrestlers, right, Shack, Was he really seven three?
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Was he seven foot? Does it really matter? Now?
Speaker 4 (09:54):
Right? It really doesn't matter once you're that tall.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
It's it looked the size only, Matt.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
If you're talking about if you're gonna be a big
careful and if your hand is really small on your quarterback,
that's true eight and three quarters inches.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Good luck. Kenny Pickett blah.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
But I'm not telling you want to talk about. The
only concern about wehm bin Yama, and this is a
big deal. I'm serious about this, is that it's the
same thing with Zion Williamson, except it's about the other
side of the weight. Because Zion the only worry I
said when he came in the league, look at his heaviness.
Look how he comes in as the second heaviest guy
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in the league already. Is he going to be able
to withstand the pounding of an NBA season? And right
away we see the answer is no. He's injured all
the time, right and obviously obviously he's got other stuff happening,
but he is injured all the time. Now you have
wem Benyama, who is in it's seven anywhere between seven
three seven five, goes about two hundred and fifteen pounds,
which is for his height, is less than the median
(10:55):
weight an of the of an NBA player, right, so
two fifteen he's less He's less than the median wave
of an NBA player. So I'm not worried about him
banging with the because he's going to be a big
that that is out on the on the perimeter.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
He'll got that.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
He's not somebody that, hey, I'm gonna get down low,
I'm gonna post up, and it's going to be elbows
and stuff all the time. But the only thing is
his frame is light for now. And can he withstand
the pounding of a full NBA season, and by full season,
I mean sixty games and then allegedly the playoffs, not
eighty two games, sixty games and he's.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Got to go sixty five because he wants to win
an award? Right?
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Can he withstand the stress of the sixty sixty five games,
which we're not going to know until he plays, because
you don't play, You don't play seasons like that when
when you're that young, Yeah, you play aau games, when
you play overseas, you play seas, But sixty sixty five
games in playoffs. NBA is a man's league. And and
Kenny with stand Kenny stay healthy? Or will his body
(11:52):
not be able to stand up to the riggers of
the NBA because that was the one thing when Lebron
came in as an eighteen year old, the one thing
you saw was man, he's his body is he's a
Greek god at eighteen? Yeah, he is absolutely physically ready
to come in and play with everybody else ween Ben
Yama's it's it's it's the other side of it is
that you look seven five and two hundred and fifteen pounds,
(12:13):
can you get up and down the floor all the time.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Look at chet Holmgren. How long did he make it
last year? You know?
Speaker 1 (12:17):
And he you know, he go he won about eight
and he and he he didn't make it even through
summer League. So that's the that's the biggest thing is
that you know, hopefully he can because with all this
it's great for the NBA. I'd love to see a
great new star coman guy seven five shooting threes, maybe
just reaching over from the three point line and just
putting the ball togeod.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
But is he gonna have that? Can he withstand that
pounding of the NBA.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
That's the thing, well, we've talked about it for years,
you and I doing the show here together at night.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Is look at all the big guys and the.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
Troubles with ankles and knees and just joints in general, right,
hip degeneration, all of those things curious to see. Right,
if you're gonna play in a style where you've got
to move and you're running up and down the court
as opposed to going and backing into the low.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Post, et cetera. How much how much wear and tear
can you withstand that way?
Speaker 5 (13:07):
Right?
Speaker 4 (13:07):
Not a matter of just getting beat up, like because
that's the other side of it. Now you're physically you're
gonna have guys that let's face it, you're you're being
called the generational guy. What happens, You're gonna get the
best run from all of the would be tough guys
across the NBA, not that they're gonna be dirty about it,
but you're gonna get a body on you, and they're
gonna test you time and again. And we've seen so
(13:30):
many times guys land awkwardly with better frames, right, thicker frames,
all that, and still have myriad injuries. And no, I'm
not just talking about Anthony Davis, but we talked about
all of those, all seven footers, right, It's always a
concern when we get them out there, how long do
their their ankles and knees hold up with this kind
(13:52):
of traction in the way the NBA game flows these days,
gonna be fascinating. I wish him the best. We've already
heard about them for multiple years?
Speaker 5 (14:01):
Did it waits what Jason did in his whole take there?
What's that he put the Spurs in the playoffs? No,
he had to, he had He's gonna be the player
of all time. O trust me, trust me. Greg Berhalter
is coming in to coach the Spurs. It's gonna be
helmet to be justifying. Pick a fight with the star player.
Twitter it out about a Fresco.
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Speaker 1 (14:32):
Slash match, Yeah, first time he doesn't switch on a
double boom when min Yama coming out of the game
after just eighteen seconds, Oh, I guess, I guess time
out and sat him down.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
But I mean it rejuvenated. I mean this is like
a favorite Popovich for being a voice and taking a
lot of heat for the league.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Never guy, so you can coach Robinson and Duncan and
Yama guys jelling you guys.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
Conspiracy theories abound, man, trust me, that's the only thing
Ken he was dead. That's the only right we talked about.
It was Zion. It turned out to be true. Hopefully
it's not with Wembin Yama, but that's the thing.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
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Speaker 1 (15:16):
We are pick number twenty eight right now, near the
end of the first round of the NBA Draft, Rick
Victor Webbinyama going number one overall to the San Antonio Spurs.
Not surprising, big surprise, falling all the way through the draft, falling, falling, falling,
before finally get taken number twenty. Cam Whitmore from Villanova,
(15:37):
Haimi Hakez goes number eighteen to the Miami Heat. Finally
someone to challenge pat Riley for best Yeah, that's good
on the team.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Nick Smith Junior from Arkansas just got picked.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
And I was just actually showing you a clip Madeline
had sent me where they, you know, people play around
with lyrics and put some movie clips or whatever, and
it was kind of odd the one that had but
it was the same song where it's the you know
nothing new one it looks like Ben through it. Nick
Smith Junior looked like he'd had a rough night and
now he's got of breaking down as he's he's getting interviewed.
(16:12):
But I love that in the little synopsis on the
lower third right at the bottom of your screen, as
he was getting announced, it said crafty score.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
No, it's good craft Hey, hey, crafty's a good thing.
You want to be called usual. Only left handers are
called crafty, that's right, But now craft crafty South Paul
uh and Lakers take Jalen Hood Schafino out of Indiana.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Ye go, they needed a ball handler. They got a
ball handler.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
If I'm D'Angelo Russell, I'm going uh oh h hey.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
He plays my position. Yes, yes, yes he does. He's
gotta be a lot cheaper. You're gone, Yes he does,
Yes he does. Oh my goodness. Uh. But the big
trade rumor that we're gonna get you, we got.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
We got Rick Buker coming up about fifteen to break
down everything we've seen so far tonight. What we could
see trade wise is the Clipper and the Knicks have
had conversation. Now they are only conversation, Nick. The thing
has happened. They are only conversations. The Knicks and Clippers
(17:12):
have had conversations about Paul George the goat, Paul Drege.
Maybe the Knicks heard Brandon Miller call him the goats.
Well we can get the goat. Oh, let's go get
Paul George.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
We can go make does that?
Speaker 1 (17:25):
But now it is only conversation, only conversation, but they
are talking to Paul George trade. And the first thing
I'm gonna say is I hate to say I told
you so because I don't, but I told you the
Knicks are gonna make a big trade this offseason, A
huge one.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
Is that the guy you want?
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Though, because even though he's the goat, and no, because
well he's the goat, I mean, he's a big trade.
They have so many assets to trade that they can
move on from. Now that they are Jalen Brunson driven
and they have a deep roster. Can they move on
from RJ Barrett one hundred percent? Can they move on
from Julius Randall one hundred percent?
Speaker 3 (18:00):
And to be off the board? Do that right? So
you can trade a couple of good players for a
really good player. And it was a move.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
When I first saw it, I was like, ah, but
I came around to it pretty quick. Because Paul George
is a lot like Chris tops porzingis where he needs
to just let him. You need to let him just
play in the shadows. You can't ask him to be
a leader. You can't ask to say step up and
do this, but you say, hey, just go play and
do your thing. Don't worry about leading, don't worry about
(18:29):
making big shot. Just be Paul George and things will
work out. It was an All Star this year. Look,
the guy's been first team All NBA. He's guy's been
All Star six times. Paul George is pretty good.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Now. Is he someone that you would get to say, hey,
you're our guy. No way.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
But if he can operate in the shadows, meaning hey,
when it comes down to it, there's a couple of
guys we're gonna trust or we need to make a
shot before you will when he gets down down to
crunch time. Now, obviously, with by virtue of his name,
if the Knicks traded for him, he would that would
ratchet itself up a little bit. But in the end,
Paul George is still a pretty good player. Does he
(19:06):
handle the clutch great? No, he does not, But hopefully
he won't have to because he'll be Jalen Brunson taking
all of these shots. But he's still someone who fills
the stat sheet and who is still can be a
really good player for the next couple of years. So
I went from being oh, dude, no, I'm coming around
to this pretty quickly. The Knicks needs somebody else that
can make shots. That's the one thing that cried out
(19:26):
at the end of the Heat series is that if
you double team Jalen Brunson, you stop him from being
able to get a shot off.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
Well, guess what, good.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Luck, because Julius Randall isn't one of those guys that
can just I'm gonna mellow you off the ball by
holding the ball up over my head and then take
a jumper. No, the Knicks needs somebody else who can score,
and they saw that RJ. Barrett is not that guy. Right.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
RJ.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Barrett's a good player, but he is not that number
two game streak. Yes, and he'll go zero for ten
in game six. When you need him, he'll go I'll
have one for thirteen games. So they know they need
somebody else who can score. Paul George can score, and
if that's the move to go get it. That's a
huge move. Even though I'm not the biggest Paul George fan,
you can't deny what he does, what he brings to
(20:06):
a team, what he can do across the board, And
as long as he's not brought in to be the savior,
things will be okay. I'm hoping he can handle New
York if they wind up making this trade. But the
fact that it's Brunson's team, I'm feeling good about it.
But the Knicks are gonna do something big. I told
you were gonna happen. Whether it's Paul George something else,
they're doing something big.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
It's one that certainly here in Los Angeles, we're looking
for all the dominoes to fall, and we've been having
rumors about the Clippers perhaps breaking things up. We talked
with Mark Medina a little last night and that was
one of the things that was starting to percolate a
little bit that maybe it was time. And the thought
within the Clippers organization was that they took their swings
(20:49):
at things with the dual Kawhi Leonard Paul George two
headed monster at the top. But it didn't work because
you couldn't keep both of them on the court together,
which is one of the huge concerns and one of
the things Tom Thibodeau and the brass of the New
York Knicks would have to deal with. But certainly when
he's on the court, you look at him. Fifty six
(21:09):
games played averaged about thirty five minutes a game. So
there's one that you've got to figure out how to
massage that, particularly the style of play in New York, right,
it's a grind. Not that they haven't done that with
the Clippers, but we've seen what that's yielded through the Clippers.
But twenty four points a game, forty five percent from
(21:30):
the field, six boards, five assists per game, you'll take that.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
You'll take that box score. But it's going to be
an idea of how you manage his minutes and Bruntson's
seemingly the leader in all all way, shape and form.
I don't know that anybody's disputing that. It's brunts and culture.
You talk about heat culture, it's brunts and culture. Brunts
and culture, Jalen culture. What do I like to get traded? Yeah,
Jalen culture.
Speaker 5 (21:53):
Frostburg that you keep putting that into I mean the
Knicks don't have a pick, so maybe they package Jalen
Brunson in and get a picked him.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
He's the biggest bargain in the NBA. He's got three
more years and seventy five million left on his contract.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
He's twenty five or shady. That was a fantastic deal.
Here was no shame was no shady, absolute shame. The
Knicks went to the game and sat in the front
row that has held the Mavericks up. He said, hey, hey,
talk to talk to dad. No, make this happen. Never
got a seat at the table.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
No, No, there's I'm going to take out your girlfriend
behind your back, and then there's I'm going to make
out where they're right in front of you.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
That's what the Knicks did with it with the maps. No,
they kind of did that in a big way.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
And we've been talking about some of the dollars and
whether they make any cents with some of these other players.
We talked a lot about Chris Middleton last night at
forty million, but you look at Brunson, He's sixteen million
dollars less. Allows you to do much more with your
roster as you rebuild and retooled. Paul George if he's
ready to go. He's shown he's happy being a number
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two guy, wants the ball at times down the stretch.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
That's good. You need another guy like that because.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Time do you want to not every every place like
what he was. He was not a guy that was
taking over games. This is the point, right, and he
finds his role at this point. So when we look
at the Knicks and what would be left of that roster,
because to make the salaries match, you start doing the well,
there's Julius Randall probably shuffled down. I mean I made
(23:21):
the joke about it, all right, who's on the billboards
with Kawhi Leonard this coming year? Right, because we got
to keep street lights over spotlights going well, I mean,
he could put himself up there.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
And the urinals. Mike, don't forget those power for your.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
Teen hundred plus pressure?
Speaker 3 (23:36):
Do I know that?
Speaker 1 (23:37):
I don't know, but I remember that day. You know why,
because you're over forty now, so you know that. That's
why it's like, ah, I know, hey, can I go
to the bathroom a lot easier in a game? Yes,
that's what I need. And the medicines don't help. Yeah, no, no, no, no,
it's not good for anybody. I made hydrate.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
What do I tell you, man?
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Where do I want to sit in the concert on
the aisle so I can get to the bathroom as
possible to get.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
We always always try to sit either the last row,
like to Ringo last week, last row with the section
step right out where you.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Go where we sat for Morris Day. But I was like, ah,
it's only gonna be seventy five minutes. I think I'm good.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
They yeah, they were great, four people there.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
No, they folded out the seats they put him down
for He was pretty cool legit.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
They took the tape off the seat where the coming
to preach out in the park.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
So look, if this winds up to be a cha,
I'm good with it. I'm good with it, good with
it for the Clippers because honestly, the Clippers have been
sticking with this. Oh we just have to keep waiting
for Kawhi. But it's not happening at this point. It's
like everybody used to say, when Shack starts making his
free throws, not happening.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
He was never making his free throws.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
He wasn't incentivized to make his free throws.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
It's we're waiting, We're we're all but Kawhi and Paul George,
if they're healthy, if they can get to again. It's
year after year after year of that. It's not working.
Kawhi can't stay on the court. When he gets on,
he and Paul George are not enough. Paul George has it.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Can't.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
It can't happen. It can't.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
You gotta move on. You go move on. You gotta
go on to what is next. You've become a destination.
It's not difficult if you're the Clippers to get stars
to come play. It's not Hey, you brought Kawhi and
you brought Paul Georgian. What you did was you took
the Clippers what Steve Balmer has done after buying the
team and getting Kawhi and getting Paul George's.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
You took the Clippers from.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Absolute irrelevance and you brought them up to Hey, uh,
this is it. Come here. We're gonna have her own arena.
Everything's gonna be great. You can be a star. Kawhi Kine. Hey,
obviously things are going okay for me. He's collecting a
lot of money, he's playing when he can Paul George
made a lot of money.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
Hey, you can go there, they'll.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Pay you out, they'll treat you Okay, all right, yeah,
suddenly I don't want to go to the Clippers now.
Now you've made the Clippers a destination, so you don't
have to worry about Well, if we say goodbye to
this star, what no, no, no, you trade Paul George,
get get RJ. Barrett back, get RJ Barrett Obi topping back.
If that's the trade needs to be. I'm doing this
trade for the Knicks right now. Get whatever you need
back because you need something else, because you can't keep
(25:58):
holding on to four years of well if just if
all of these things can happen, If it takes four
years and all these things aren't happening, they're not gonna happen. Well,
the other part, and this is where it becomes the
old lessons we've talked about for many years on the
program of sunk costs, because there's always the look, what
we gave up to get this guy that still will
(26:19):
swirl about in columnists musings on potential trades and Paul
George and what he is and everything else is you
gave up all these first round picks. Yeah, it was
a five count Gallinari who at the time could still
play at Shay Gilgess, Alexander who's become well available and
on the court one of the great scorers and a
(26:40):
rising player in this league.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
That's great.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
Oklahoma City's going to be pretty fascinating to watch the
next iteration of their squad. But when we look at
the Paul George side of it is, you're not getting
those picks back. You can't unring the bell, and you've
got to look at the last four years and say
do we need more of it? You got a good roster, right,
everybody loved the roster going into this season, and everything
(27:04):
has to be contingent upon the Itali sized dot dot
dot if healthy.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
How about you move past that worry about the health
of Kawhi.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
I mean they vetoed a trade yesterday because of potential
health questions. How great was that?
Speaker 3 (27:19):
And we were first on it.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
Wait, they actually looked at the medicals before saying yes.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
See, like Mike Dunleavy Junior, don't press end, don't reply
and say deal, I'll send over the paperwork. Wait, did
I really just.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
Add two picks to that?
Speaker 1 (27:34):
We just wait, wait, wait, wait wait So oh I
thought we were getting a first and second round pick
with Chris Paul. Oh, now we're trading Jordan Poole and
oh that's not gonna been ohay, I'm disappointed that Chris
Paul didn't end up a Clipper.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
That's a bad optic.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
I'm disappointed in up a laker. Well, we're running to
be up a laker for his entire Crit's never gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
We're wishing not evil on me. Ricky, Bobby, you're trying
to get there. You were really trying to make that happen.
I think that's why you're not wearing sleeves today.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
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Speaker 3 (28:07):
Well here we are, smack dab midway through the NBA
Draft first round, getting ready for the second What do
we like?
Speaker 4 (28:16):
What do we not like?
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Victor Wembin Yamago's number one overall Chris Paul is traded.
Earlier in the day of the Golden State Warriors. Warriors
trade away Jordan Poole. They also trade away a first
and second round pick. The Knicks could be getting Paul George.
There is no one better to talk to than the
man in the line with us right now Fox Sports
one analyst. Check out Us on the Ball podcast with
(28:38):
Rick Buker. It is Rick Buker. Rick, what's happening?
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Buddy?
Speaker 6 (28:41):
Oh, Live in the dream? Live in the dream, my friend,
live in the dreams?
Speaker 3 (28:45):
All right?
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Well, before we get to the draft, I gotta start
with this because I got you, you Peaud, my interest
immensely today when I saw the Chris Paul draft, I said,
the Chris Paul trade, I said, the Warriors need to
be getting younger and more dynamic, not older, because it's
not how you do it. They make the trade, they
get Chris Paul. You like it, you say, it's one
(29:06):
of the most sensible things they've ever done.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
Tell us about it.
Speaker 7 (29:09):
Yeah, Well, because if they tried to split the difference.
They tried to stay with the core and chase the
championship and infuse it with young talent, and it didn't work,
you know.
Speaker 6 (29:24):
They that's the reason they went in the direction of
trying to kind of force feed James Wiseman and develop
him and develop Jonathan Kaminga and Moses Moody and they
finally realized, look, we need if we're gonna milk another
championship out of Steph Curry and Clay and Draymond, then
we have to get guys who are ready and committed
(29:49):
and dedicated to trying to win a ring, that motivation
of winning a ring, And certainly you get all of
that in Chris Paul. Now keep in mind, wh we're
any of the traits that we're talking about, all of
these are fueled in part because of the new collective
bargaining agreement coming in. And it's not by accident that
(30:12):
Golden State is making a move and moving Jordan Poole
or that the Clippers are looking to make a move
and change things up, because those two teams have the
most expensive rosters and just their ability to even improve
in any way will be majorly compromised. So the deal
(30:34):
for Chris Paul from a financial standpoint, makes a ton
of sense because he's on a one year deal. They
get they get him for this year and then he
comes off the books. That that was the opposite of
Jordan Poole. Second, from a basketball standpoint, their number one
(30:54):
issue is that they turn the ball over too much.
They don't take care of it. And Jordan Poole per
minute was the biggest culprit. He was supposed to be
the guy that ran their second unit, and he did.
He ran it into the ground. And what Chris Paul
will give them, And I presume that he's going to
be coming off the bench, or if he does start,
(31:16):
it will be like, we don't have to play Steph
seventy seventy five games. We could play him sixty comfortably
and start and start Chris Paul. But for the second unit,
now you can use Chris Paul along with Jonathan Kaminga
and Moses Moody, and he can organize that second group
(31:36):
because he's not going to be looking to score. He's
one of the best lob throwers in the league, so
certainly he's going to be able to find find those
guys and assist. The turnover ratio. He's still top five
in the league, and I think averaged close to nine
assists last year. So I just see from a financial standpoint,
it makes a ton of sense. And for what the
(31:58):
Warriors were lacked, which was when Steph came off the floor,
when Draymond wasn't on the floor, they were a mess.
And whatever you think of Chris Paul and where he
is right now, the one thing he's going to be
able to do is organize your team and he's going
to be able to get you into your sets. And
that was sorely missing for them. So that's why I
(32:21):
presuming that Chris Paul is just willing to come in and.
Speaker 7 (32:24):
Play whatever role is necessary.
Speaker 6 (32:26):
I like the deal.
Speaker 4 (32:27):
Should have known that Mike Dunleavy Junior spoke way too
strongly about Jordan Poole's contract the other day, Rick, in
terms of his place along here. All right, let me
do it for my sleeveless partner over here. He's rocking
the gun show tonight, Rick, because it is draft night. Yeah,
he's been posing and doing all sorts of weird things
here in the studio. The New York Knicks potentially in
(32:49):
the market to go find themselves some Paul George we
get rid of street lights over spotlights, and Jason would
have a new guy to either love or hate on
a nightly basis. What do you think of the rumors
here and what would be going back to the Clippers.
Speaker 7 (33:03):
Yeah, it's a great question.
Speaker 6 (33:06):
What would be going back because r.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
J Barrett Obie topping Boom. I just did the train
right there.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
It's all done.
Speaker 6 (33:17):
It makes sense for where those guys, well, I'm trying
to think. I'd have to look to see how a
lot of I mean number one is what would it
do financially? Would they get any financial relief from doing
a deal like that? And then the second part is
they look it's They're no secret. They were in the
(33:38):
market for Chris Paul, they were in the market for
Malcolm Brogden. They need a point guard in the worst way,
and outside of jillen Brunson, I don't know that there
is one that you would say as a bona fide
playmaker on the nick. So if that deal would happen,
I would think that the Clippers have something else going
(33:59):
on or that it would not be a straight uh,
it would be a three team deal because that that
has to be their primary focus is how do they
wind up with a legitimate point guard playmaker, especially if
Paul George is in the deal, because he's the closest
thing to a playmaker and a and a ball handler
(34:20):
that they have.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
Rick.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Can we close the books on any potential Zion trade? Now?
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Is that done?
Speaker 6 (34:27):
Is done because I think I'm not mistaken. If I'm
not mistaken. The last time I was on, you guys
are very hot about uh, some some reports coming out
that Zion was going to be moved and and I
told you they were, they were listening, but it was
going to have to be a deal that they simply
(34:48):
couldn't refuse, and and that's that wasn't forthcoming. So look,
short of something still being put to together, I would
say we can put it to bed. That we put
it to bed for the time being. If he comes
back and plays, or you know, something else bubbles up
(35:10):
and then I think it's revisited. This is the one
thing we can take away from from from what we've experienced,
or at least from what I've heard over the last
month or so, is that they're not wed to Zion.
And I believe I heard you guys on with Mark
Stein might have been last night and your commentary afterward
(35:31):
about you know, just it being difficult for a market
like that to pull the trigger, which I agree one
thousand percent. It's it's knowing what he's capable of and
knowing that you're never going to get that in free agency. Man,
he's really got to convince you that it's not going
to work, and they're just they've opened the door that
(35:54):
it might not work, but they're they're not really willing
to walk through it at this point. So if something
else comes up, that may change. But the distinction is
they're open to the idea if something something made sense
and they felt like they could get a similar starback.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
Yeah, we're just looking for the chaos meter to go
off the charts. Here.
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Speaker 3 (36:54):
Number one.
Speaker 4 (36:55):
Victor Wembayama, Uh, It's finally happened after all the build
up rates. He finally got to walk to the stage
and shake hands and now he's got to be the
greatest player ever or it's a failure.
Speaker 6 (37:07):
Yeah, yeah, which is really I think that san Antonio
is going to tamp down those expectations real quick. I
think everybody thinks that that that san Antonio is going
to Now now they've got Webb and Yama, here they go.
They're going to take off. And from what I've been
hearing is like they're going to take a very slow
approach in terms of developing him and developing their teeth.
(37:27):
They're not going for broke. I would not I would
not be surprised if they were in the lottery one
more time before we see this team start to take off.
So I and and how that affects the view of
Webb and Yama is going to be very interesting as
(37:48):
far as media is concerned. I'm already forward, I'm already
putting it in fast forward and imagining like people getting
up that with Pop and the Spurs suggesting that they're
undermining Wemba and Yama's career because they are going to
(38:09):
take a very patient approach. I do believe that, in
knowing a little bit about the kid and hearing the
interviews that Pop is not going to get pushed back
from the kid. He just seems to be mature and
wise beyond his years. And it's one of the reasons
(38:31):
why I believe that we're seeing the international players are
suddenly they're the ones that are playing for MVP, and
they're the ones that are being considered for the number
one pick, or if not the number one pick, the
best player in the draft. We you know, big picture,
if I'm an American, if I'm a US basketball fan,
(38:56):
I need to start looking at is what's going on
with our system that we're not that the rest of
the world is not only caught up with us, but
they appear to be passing us in terms of the
young talent that is coming into the league, not only
in terms of it's their their overall skills, but their
(39:18):
maturity and approaching how to be a professional athlete. I
just you know, I'm looking at who won the championship.
It was a Serbian and a Canadian who was competing
for MVP. A Serbian and a Greek slash Nigerian Uh
(39:41):
and Joel Mbii from the Cameron, Like, we need to
start looking at like, what are we doing with our
young players? How are we bringing them up? What kind
of culture an atmosphere are they coming up in? Because
they they're not They're not the shine light of of
(40:01):
the NBA right now, and I don't think unless something changes,
I think this trend is going to continue.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
Now. Now, the one thing Rick and great stuff there,
because that's a huge jumping off point we're going to
have after But the one thing I have about wem
beIN Yama is I kind of feel the same way
I did when the Pelicans drafted Zion Zion. The one
big question, boy, his weight is an issue right because
Zion was the second heaviest guy already in the league.
Is he going to be able to withstand the pounding
(40:29):
of an eighty two or now sixty five game season,
because that's what stars play. And the answer has been
a resounding no. Webin Yama goes seven to five, two
hundred and fifteen pounds, that's already on the lighter side
of of NBA players. He's going to get everybody's best shot.
Is his body going to be able to withstand just
the up and down pounding of a sixty five games
during the course of the season in the playoffs, because
(40:50):
that's a big thing, not that something you think he's
going to be fragile and brittle, but you don't know
until you get him out there, because he's never he's
never played anything like this before.
Speaker 6 (40:57):
No, it's very true. One of the one of the
reason why I think that that he, uh, he might
be capable of that is because there's a lot of
agility and flexibility in his body, even compared to say
Chet Holmgren. I look at Chet Holmgren, and there's a
certain he's not just skinny, he's a little bit stiff,
(41:21):
and this guy is just so so kind of fluid
and agile, and I think that that makes a difference.
I also look at the way the game is played.
It's not it doesn't require the same kind of brute force.
So is he going to have to get stronger, Yes,
(41:44):
without without question, he's got he's got to put a
little bit of weight on. But there's that fine line
of you got to get up and down. And so
you know, the players today are built more like marathon
runners than they all are you know, linebackers or or
(42:04):
or any other type of athletes. And so I look
when we're all guessing, and a lot of this comes
down to just the structure, you know, the musclature and
the skeleton frame and and all of that, and the symmetry,
which is like you know that that there sometimes there's
(42:25):
no way of finding out until you put somebody through
an eighty two game season to find out whether they're
capable of enduring it. But I'm I would say that
I'm probably more worried about chet Holmgren having his body
break down than when be Yama because I just see
I see a little more fluidity and athleticism and range,
(42:46):
and I think that that it's one of the reasons
why I Thinkawhi Leonard has run into what he's run
into because he's got He's really strong, but he's he
is He's not particularly agile. He's stocky and strong, but
there's not a lot of fluidity to his game. And
what I know is, you know, once a guy that's
(43:07):
built like that gets one injury, the ability to compensate
for it is limited. It starts to hit other joints
because they just don't have that range of motion and
inflexibility that allows him to compensate for it.
Speaker 1 (43:20):
I feel so seen in that last bit of analysis stiff,
lacking mobility, and once one thing happening, it's kind of
rolls over another.
Speaker 6 (43:29):
I am, I am speaking from some personal experience there,
so it's why I know it.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
Well, he was reading right off your bio, Mike, He's
going right right round. Go to read off of Harmon's bio.
Speaker 6 (43:39):
Here, there you go exactly.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
He's on Twitter at Rick Bucker. That is at Rick Bucker.
Rick as always, buddy, Thanks so much. And when the
Knicks get either Paul George or Joel Embiid later on tonight,
we'll call you back.
Speaker 6 (43:53):
Sounds good dat Wait, I won't be waiting by the phone.
Speaker 3 (43:57):
You're the mess by Rick
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