Hour 3 - Wembanyama's fit in the Spurs.

Jason and Mike discuss the Spurs draft pick Victor Wembanyama's fit in the NBA with the Spurs.

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Speaker 3 (00:49):
Well.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
Here we are NBA Draft night, nearing the midway point
of the second round of the NBA Draft. We've seen
some big picks. Amari Bailey. You UCLA just went number
forty one overall. So UCLA seeing they're big players the
last couple of years, part of big Final four runs

(01:10):
and team that just couldn't get past Consagas wave goodbye.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
Is time to start over again? Well it's now the
next era. And look, you get a couple of guys
into the draft, you get to have that feather in
the cap, right and look, you come here, you get
a lot of exposure. Back twelve network aside, it's gonna
be part of the Big ten network and you're gonna
have a lot of TV exposure. Now he can get

(01:35):
you to the draft. Let's go.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
Now, there's a lot of things to get to today
with the NBA Draft, and certainly Victor wembin Yama going
number one overall no surprise for anyone. The Spurs draft
their next great big man and Greg Popitch now is
gonna get to I got David Robinson. Now I'm gonna
get Tim Duncan. Now I'm gonna get webbin Yama. Maybe

(01:59):
I'll stick around little longer here.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
I got wen Beya. He was a big Spurs fan
growing up because of Tony Parker. Yeah, funny how that works.
So you know the thing is is that is he
a great prospect? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (02:11):
But the whole thing with wembin Yama, and look, you know,
obviously all the things you've heard about him are great
right wise beyond his years, very mature for an eighteen
year old.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
You've heard all the interviews very much, got right, I mean, sure,
there's a lot to it. True.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
Yeah, no, he he see he doesn't seem like your typical, hey,
eighteen year old kid that his head is going to
be swimming for a little while going into the NBA
and everything else. So it seems like he's got a
pretty good but you know what, look, playing overseas. Maybe
that's part of it, playing outside the spotlight of college
basketball because he was playing one year of college basketball here.
Think about what it would be. Think about how great

(02:48):
that would have been for college basketball women. Yea, almost
playing it. But the one thing to be concerned about
with him and it's it's look, it's I feel like
I'm going back to what we talked about was Zion
Williamson when he got drafted four years ago. Was you
gotta be able to withstand the pounding of an entire
NBA season and you got to be able to do

(03:08):
it for a long period of time.

Speaker 3 (03:10):
And Zion, the question was is he too big? Right?

Speaker 1 (03:13):
Because he came in as when he came in he
was the second heaviest guy in the league already as
an eighteen year old. Was he gonna be able to
keep that size. Was he gonna be able to lose
a little bit of weight, was gonna be able to
not get bigger? And you've seen reports about his weight
getting big and then coming back but still to eighty
five and growing. And what's happened for Zion so far?

(03:34):
Forget about all this stuff with the with the adult film actress.
He's not being able to stand on the floor. His
body has not been able to withstand the pounding and
the rigors of an NBA season. And this is because
you know, is he too big? Probably? And it's not
just about the pounding of being down low and banging bodies,
but it's about the pounding of every night up and
down the floor and everything that goes along with playing

(03:58):
every day, playing a schedule you have ever played before,
You've never played games like this, you never played at
a level like this, with grown men like this that
are playing at the highest level that you're gonna eat
everything you can.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
And now you have wee Ben Yama who comes in
at seven five to fifteen, which his weight is actually
on the it's right around the median weight of NBA players,
but it's a little bit on the light side. And
it's the other flip side of it is can he
was stand the pounding of sixty five games in the NBA.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
Because they forget about eighty games. No one's playing that anymore.
Stars aren't playing that anymore.

Speaker 3 (04:35):
Eban.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
You can limit somebody's minutes all you want, and you
can try to hold them back and not not allow
them to run before they can walk. But I don't
know is he gonna be able to get up and
down the floor and withstand the rigors of the NBA season?
And that's the biggest thing. Everything else, Hey seems like
he's got it right. He's got everything else. He can

(04:55):
run the floor like Giannis can shoot better than Yannis.
You know, hopefully he winds up and his body develops
and gets a little bit of weight on it. But
can he play sixty five nights? Can he play back
to backs? Is he gonna have to sit? Can he
make it more than thirty games? Can he make fifteen
games a row? And you are not gonna know this
until he hits the floor. Now he says he's gonna
play in Summer League. So that was kind of new.

(05:16):
It's like, okay, great, but remember chet Holgreen last year
didn't make it out of Summer League. You know, and
and and you know, Rick Buker made the point about
a little bit more stiffness in chet Holmgren's game. But
I get that, and I understand that part, but it
still doesn't matter. Your body is still your body, and
whether it's running up and down the floor and shooting
threes and being athletic, sometimes that's even worse. And I

(05:39):
don't know, you don't know what happens till you get
him out there. But that's a big question mark. And
for anybody who says, oh, it's not I get that.
You don't want to look at somebody, go oh their health,
their health, their health. Sure, but this is something where
hey man seven five and two fifteen. I mean, come on,
I mean really, I'm five nine. I weigh more than
he does, right, I mean seriously, I weigh more than
he does. I could run him over because I weigh

(06:00):
more than he can. Just get low center of gravity.
Run your ass over.

Speaker 3 (06:03):
Man. You get a bat unless he does something with
his reach and he goes all rocky on you, like
your clever laying. Oh he could do that, yeah, he
might be. He would send your ball fly, he might
be able to do it. No, I'd just be running
out of it. In a fight. He just wanted to
run him over. He was just trying to be the
albino rhino running over. He would get right out of
the way, like he had the red carpet nicely done. Yeah,

(06:25):
I mean, look at they played forty four games in
the league that he comes from. He averaged thirty two
minutes a night, twenty points, ten boards. Great numbers, no
question about it. But as we look ahead and you're
talking about to get to the award level, let's just
put it there, right, because everybody wants to go and
immediately start betting their futures for Rookie of the Year

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and everything else. And some of the guys drafted up
top talked about it specifically, saying, no, I want that.
I want to take it, almost as if they want
to say, I'm taking it from Victor. He will not
win this award because of me. But he's got to
play sixty five games, right, based on what we're talking
about here, a lot of minutes, some frustrating minutes. No
doubt as you get in and I have no doubt

(07:08):
he's a fine player and we've seen the highlights and
the expectations and scouts they've been drooling forever, right since
he first popped onto the radar. But to your point
about joints and big men, man, how many guys that
size have not had major issues crop up? Right? Even

(07:29):
the slim reaper who's carrying him in. He's got one
of the I don't know, oddest bodies I think for
an elite athlete we've ever seen. And it's not to
denigrate it, it's just not the style that we see.
But he's had his health concerns, right, some freak injuries,
et cetera. But you look at most big men have

(07:50):
trouble with their ankles and their feet over time. In
his case, he will not be, you know, subject to
the Shaquille O'Neal days of where the weight was starting
to become an issue and not being the jim rat
and living there even though he doubt does the icy
hot and everything else, but he didn't take care of

(08:12):
himself that way and carried that weight which works on
those limbs. We all know it. I mean, think about
your physicals out there wherever you're listening, and I love you,
make sure you actually get your physical every year. Take
care of yourself, be preventative with your health care. But
one of the things you're gonna say is, you know what,
this will be good on your knees. If you lost
ten pounds, you lost five pounds here, whatever the case

(08:34):
may be, it's all good for women. Yeama, he doesn't
have the weights, but he's got the height. And we've
seen it time and again with guys having trouble with
their toes, with their ankles and on. We've seen many
a promising career cut short. And it's not to predict
and look to doom and gloom. It's just history has this.

(08:54):
So it'll be curious to see how his body responds,
what type of workload, and what kind of dial of
game the Spurs want to play going forward with him.
You know, I would almost say this, and I think
back to this.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
Remember when now I'm going back to I'm going back
to Michael Jordan in the eighties when he broke his foot. Right,
what they didn't what they didn't cover in air when.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
Hey, he's gonna wear a Nike. Oh dude broke his foot.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
Man?

Speaker 3 (09:19):
Uh, when he broke his foot.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
I remember when he came back and everybody wanted to
see him come back because he was so electrified. We'd
never seen a player like him. I remember the bull said,
you can play three minutes a half, but not one
second more. Yeah, And then after a week it was
you can play three minutes and twenty seconds and not
a second more. And so that's what he would do.
He played three minutes in the first half, three minutes

(09:42):
in the second half. Right then the next week, okay,
you're good now, three twenty And of course the Bulls
were bad his first couple year, so you can do that.
Just seeing Jordan for those three minutes and twenty second,
they would call time out to get him out of
the game. I wonder if if if the Spurs are
smart and you're talking about bringing him back, and look a,
you're gonna suddenly be a playoff team and be a
team that wins the West. No, if you say, this

(10:04):
is what we're doing and we're not going to get
away from it, We're not going to to derail this
at all. We are sticking to a plant and Victor
wembin Yama is going to play no more than twelve
minutes in the friend I'm just throwing this out there
twelve minutes in the first half, twelve minutes in the

(10:24):
second half. Whether it's he plays four minutes, comes out
plays eight minutes. Whether and that's it. And we're not
going over and we're not gonna start him and play
him thirty thirty five minutes a night, because maybe that
helps him, Maybe that helps him get used to the
pounding it up and down, and as he gets older
and he puts more weight on, and he gets and
he gets to the point where, hey, my body can

(10:45):
withstand this now, okay, because your body getting used to
the NBA.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
It's just like anything else. This is like anything else
with training, when you try to go too hard, too fast,
you try to do something that you've never done before. No,
you need to build up to it. You don't go
out and try to run a marathon without building up
to you. Don't say I'm gonna run a marathon tomorrow. Wow.
Twenty six miles, Yep, what have you done so far? Nothing?
I'm just gonna go out. I'm not tired.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
I feel go out and do it. I want Can
you do that for the show? Twenty six miles? Well,
I mean, we don't expect you to get through twenty.
I might be able to walk it, but run it.
No way, no way be able to walk six twenty six.
I mean, you just had your cholesterol go down seventy points.
You're ready, No, I'm excited about that seventy Well, I

(11:25):
just don't know. Honestly, I don't know if I could
make it. If and I'll be honest, I'll be because
I'll say everything.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
I would I be able to do it without chafing
so bad that I need to just stop, right.

Speaker 3 (11:36):
I have to have creams for that.

Speaker 1 (11:38):
I need like like to make to have underwear changings,
like every few miles, like hey, six miles, new pair,
new pair.

Speaker 3 (11:45):
Can't do it because I'm not gonna have that happen,
not gonna do it. Extra special salvsnas to help you through. Yeah,
but that's tough, man, that's that's no fun. That's slathering
it on. And now you're doing that little speed walk.
I think I couldn't do it. No, we'll be curious
to see how they they monitor his minutes and how
far it comes along and how quickly it gets ramped up, because,

(12:07):
let's face it, there's been so much hype about his
arrival to the NBA. This is the Hey, Homer, it's
gonna take forty five. It can flash fry a buffalo
in forty five seconds, but I want it now. That's
kind of where we're at with this right. Everybody wants
to just see him get on the court and see
how dominant he is from the opening throws of a season.

(12:31):
And so it's look, Papovitch is a guy who is
gonna care about it whatever local and national media wants
and the expectations are there, even the fans. He's earned
the right, whether you like his sideline antics or not.
He's been there long enough. He's stuck around because well,
here he is with the number one pick and another

(12:52):
big man. He's earned the right to just say, trust
me and trust the process. He can steal it from you, Phil.
When it stinks, guys, say again, I'll be here laughing.
When he stinks, Oh, it could very well go go
south quickly.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
Yeah, but yeah, I'm not worried so much that he's
gonna stink. The guy's got a pretty good skill set.
At seven five, you you have a good stink radar.
I'm not too worried. Oh yeah, y, no, I know
you've seen it. No, no, no, I know, but uh no,
I'm not worried too much about that as I'm worried
about all right, good luck like and and and and
if that. If you're the Spurs, now, you're not a

(13:29):
team that got lucky that Hey, here we are. We
got a guy in the first round, number one pick,
and we're able to let's go for it, Matt. No,
I'm wondering if that's how you do it, because sometimes
maybe you can't even get away from it. Look at
chet holmbrid he couldn't even make it through summer league, right,
But so you know, when you're sitting here saying, Okay,
it's gonna be let you know, ten minutes and ten
minutes a half, that's you're gonna do for the first

(13:51):
few game. Now you're up to twelve minutes, I to
I wonder if that's not the best thing to do,
to say this is how we're doing. If you don't
like it, tough, but this is an eight year old
kid who we want to be a dominant guy for
the next dozen, thirteen, fourteen years. And if it takes
him two years until he's twenty three, it' till he's
twenty one years old to become a guy that can
play that cup.

Speaker 3 (14:11):
Hey, we're okay with that. We're okay with that.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
We're gonna give him time to become that guy, and
we're not going to give him out there and give
him all kinds of extra stress, because that's what does it.
That's what does it is the ex if you're playing
a guy twenty five minutes a night, Okay, are you
going to stop him from injury? No, you can't stop him.
But if you got a guy playing twenty five minutes
a night versus thirty five minutes a night, how long does.

Speaker 3 (14:32):
It take in four games? As well?

Speaker 1 (14:35):
That's his guy had an entire game off. That's one
less game of him and not having to go through
pounding that maybe his body needs time to bounce back
from I'm telling him, might be able to do it.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
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Speaker 1 (14:55):
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Speaker 3 (15:11):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
Scene when every day they're going through the robbery and
they're playing the song.

Speaker 3 (15:15):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Then they play us at the end
of Godfather too. They did, actually, yeah they did. They're
playing the guitars so fast he thought it was Eric Clapton. Yeah,
they closed the door and he closes the door on
Annie Hall Forever. Yes, that's the song they're playing right here. Karen,
you flush the what Karen? What do you mean?

Speaker 1 (15:34):
I gotta say, of everything that here's a hot take. Yeah,
of everything the Simpsons have ever done.

Speaker 3 (15:41):
Yep. I don't know that I've ever laughed harder at
Mo explaining the Godfather to Maggie. It's good. I know
that wasn't the funniest. I'm still a sucker man. I'll
just randomly grab a season and just start binging, m M.
Why it holds? Yeah, And obviously today it was in

(16:01):
the news again the Simpsons and predictive things, which is
always always awful. See, I think I think some of
that stuff is made up now, like they see and go, hey,
you know what, let's make up that we had this
from an episode. It takes the animators, you know, a
few months to do something really quick, and it's from
an episode. Oh, yes, I remember that that season seven.
There's been thirty five years of the Simpsons. Now, I

(16:21):
don't think it happened. I think they make it up.
I think they make it up. I think you can
go to the archives. No, they're a whole Simpsons world
thing where they do this and they just put it
right in. So when you go to the archives, Oh, suddenly,
I dropped it right in there. I don't remember that
from the first time I saw the Simpsons. Ah, and
they can use it in the style nineteen ninety four. Yep.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
You have somebody who says, oh, I know exactly where
we can put this episode in. We can put this
little bit of predictive thing in right here. This is
what we can do it.

Speaker 3 (16:49):
Wow, you're calling them all frauds. Tell about that, telling man,
look at you, you can do it. Wow. That's skepticism
on a whole other level. You know it. Say it.
I'm a little suspicious of the world in general. Suspicious.
I'm suspicious generally, a little suspicious and hateful. Okay, all right,

(17:10):
there's suspicious. I'm suspicious and hateful. Hi, I'm Mike Harmon,
suspicions and hateful. Nice to meet you. Caught in a trap.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
So, as we're closing in on the end of the
second round of the NBA Draft, looking, we saw a
lot of big dramas. Next pick yet Jed the Knicks
do not pick tonight because we got Josh Hart.

Speaker 3 (17:26):
That's all that matters. Uh.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
The big trade that went down today before the draft,
I still cannot believe it. You're gonna hear from Rick
Bucker coming up next down on the show. He actually
likes the deal.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
I don't care. The Warriors move on from the Jordan
Poole era. Very short era now, I mean really very short. Wow.
I mean he got it tied it only he was
there for a cycle of it. I mean he was
there since twenty nineteen. He's in the same class as
Zion and John Moran RJ. Barrett. They move on from
Jordan Poole. They trade Jordan Poole, a first round pick

(18:00):
and a second round pick to the Wizards for Chris Paul.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
Yeah, that's the trade. I mean, there's a couple other
assets in there, but basically it was Jordan Poole, a
first round pick, a second round pick for Chris Paul.

Speaker 3 (18:17):
I know, it just hits the ears wrong. And when
you go to read it, it's like, no, you're sure
there's not a typo.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
I saw this and I said, wow, it's like Bob
Myers has got to be saying, dude, I walked out
of the building a week ago, what the hell are
you doing? I don't understand the Warriors here. Okay, First
of all, the Warriors need to be a team that
is getting younger right now. I understand the whole Hey,
we tried to get the younger kids going. We tried

(18:44):
to bring them along. It didn't work. Okay, that's fine.
I understand that. I understand you tried with Jordan Poole
and Jonathan come in against I get it. I completely
get that. But you're not gonna You're not gonna get
better by bringing in Chris Paul. And clearly, what you
have now shown your strategy is instead of getting away

(19:05):
from Klay Thompson and Draymond Green, letting them go, which
is what you should do. You should Hey, Draymond, You'll
always be a Warrior, but you're gonna go somewhere else
now because we need money to get somebody else, younger
and more dynamic. Same thing with Klay Thompson. Clay, we
love you man. Maybe you're a top fifty player of
all time. I know you're upset about it, but hey,

(19:26):
prove us wrong on another team. These guys are not enough.
You saw this year they weren't enough against an aging
Lakers team in the second round. Suddenly we're gonna bring
it back with these three and then bring back Chris Paul,
who is washed, who is not a guy unless you're
gonna play Chris Paul eight minutes a game and then
hope he stays healthy and get to the play now.
Chris Paul played twenty five minutes a game. Chris Paul

(19:48):
is watched, he is. He hit his peak Game two
of the NBA Finals three years ago. That was the
peak for Chris Paul. He's not been able.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
To do it because he's old. He's thirty eight.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
Chris Paul, this is not gonna make you better. You
don't get better in the NBA by getting older. Very
rarely in any sport do you get better by getting older.
See Mets Common, New York. You don't get better, but
especially in the NBA. So I understand the fact that that, hey,
we may want to move on from Jordan pool us up,
but you gotta get younger. You gotta get younger. You

(20:18):
had to move these assets out for younger, more dynamic
players that can come in and build around Steph. I mean,
if I'm the rest of the NBA, I go, oh.

Speaker 3 (20:29):
This is what they did. They're gonna keep everybody together. Oh,
I gotta worry about the Warriors. Why they'll be lucky
if they're five hundred again next year. They'll be lucky
if they're even in the play in round next year,
because they will be I don't get this philosophy of oh,
let's have all this loyalty to this crew that was together.

Speaker 1 (20:44):
You know, they're gonna give Draymond money they shouldn't give them,
and they're gonna keep client. It's gonna be boy, what happened?
I don't understand why so bad? You need to be
going in the other direction, and you went in this
direction not gonna work well.

Speaker 3 (20:57):
The biggest thing with the roster and the thing that
fell hold them in this series against the Lakers. They
have no length and nobody out there, no big guys
to go contest, to go fight for boards. That it
doesn't help it, right, Jordan Poole was a guy big
score and could light things up and take over games
in spots. But we saw massive failures. You saw disconnection

(21:22):
with his teammate. Goes back to the punch. Is what
Steve Kerr and everybody would have you say, Like, weren't
you supposed to be the organization with enough leaders to
squatch some of that stuff? Right? So where message received
you would have thought it there. I would like to
think Jordan Poole why he might have been poudy and
we saw and veracity. Obviously you guys can go do

(21:46):
it for yourselves. That he unfollowed Draymond from his socials
or whatever he was waiting to do, that's all you God,
I I don't need to make friendit anymore now, I
will say.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
I will say just a little bit, a little bit
dovetail thing just because I is that. I love how
serious you know Generation Z and and and and millennials
to an extent, uh, how serious they take they take
social media. But I'll tell you the minute I left
NFL network, minute when I'm unfollow, unfollow unfollowed guys I

(22:19):
thought were my friends, that I knew they were.

Speaker 3 (22:22):
I was like, you know what, boom boom, But you
didn't want to be the bigger man. Seriously, No, they
didn't exist. Why did you lower yourself to do that?
I just follow them.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
I just I just because I'm not going to go
through a whole thing to block them. I'm just gonna
unfollow it.

Speaker 3 (22:33):
But they don't exist. If they like that, if I don't,
If I don't follow them, they don't exist. You're dead
to me. I mean that's really what he did. I
just boom boom. It was that. No, I I think
I know the names without you ever telling us. I
just went all the way down through the row. I
don't know the executive beyond that, I think I have
a pretty good idea. Anyway. The point B that you

(22:55):
bring in Chris Paul so philosophically, I know, slow it
down and change how you're structuring off. But your whole
thing has been timing and quick passes and moving the
ball and finding the open man, a lot of cutting,
a lot of movement. Is that Chris Paul's game, the
number of minutes that you're gonna play him in you
have two styles. One for one Stephan company are out there,

(23:18):
the other one Chris Paul's the floor general. And then
you kind of find some some meshing when the two
are out there. It'll be curious to watch big thing.
And we talked about it yesterday. Is he or is
he not? And finally Porzingis gets dealt. I thought he
would have been a great fit for what they were,
what they needed in Golden State because they had their

(23:38):
short lived experiments with the big men they draft. Well,
that didn't work. Apparently he's too young. You're still too
young twenty eight, I guess, so do you bring him in?
And you also gave up draft picks. That's the part
that you still just kind of get you to nod
your head, shake your head. But I guess you probably
talked to all of the veterans and this is this
is the other part where it gets kind of fun.

(24:00):
You know what, what's the old joke? How do you
know a lawyer is lying? Lips are moving? Yeah, well,
Mike Dunleavy the other day, Hey, four years we got
with Jordan. I mean, that's our guy.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
Well, now maybe he meant to say four days not
even four days later.

Speaker 3 (24:18):
Say four days. Maybe that's what we get past one,
not one, two, three or four. He didn't even get
to the fifth. But it's the idea that he's gone.
Steph Curry had talked about how important Jordan who was
going to be to this next wave for the Warriors
and his exit interviews. You can go b see the

(24:38):
breakdown of everything we did with Porzingis and stuff. Wherever
you get your podcast download it will give you uh
love forever and in that regard, but the the thought
that you needed some size. So I'm still curious because
they go into the draft and they draft another shooting guard.
So still not answering the bell beyond Looney in terms

(24:59):
of big men that can you know, create a little
bit of havoc on the boards, you know. And that's
the other part of this.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
That's the second part that I don't get what the
Warriors is that if you want to move on from
Jordan Poole.

Speaker 3 (25:10):
I get it, right, the fistfight with Philosophic, everybody's still
in odds and it's a problem.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
Yeah, I get it, But this is a kid that's
got a lot of value. This guy when he's in
the starting lineup twenty three points a game? Right, this
is the guy that when you won the championship. Boy,
he really came through. He's young, He's got tons of value.
How is how are you trading Jordan Poole and a
first round pick and.

Speaker 3 (25:34):
A second round pick for Chris Paul? How are you
not trading Jordan Poole for another young up and coming
player or two? How are you not trading Jordan Poole
to the Knicks for RJ. Barrett Noby Topping for instance?
How are you trading Jordan Poole for Chris Paul?

Speaker 1 (25:49):
Who's a guy that that that that the Woods like,
Really we could just give the guy away, but you're
gonna give us Jordan Poole.

Speaker 3 (25:57):
How do you do that? What is Mike Dudley Junior doing?
That was the that he was eventually gonna get waived
so they could right off the contract and then Paul
would sign wherever. I I don't under I mean, it's
like Mike Dunleavy Junior is come in and say, Okay,
let let let's just do some crazy ass stuff. Now.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
I want I want to put my mark on this franchise.
You have you made a trade that I can't believe
you traded away an asset and guy, you don't trade
that and get you. You trade nothing to get Chris Paul.
You trade nothing to get him. You trade salary dumps,
whatever it is you trade. You traded a guy that
you could have sent somewhere else for a really good
young player.

Speaker 3 (26:33):
I don't understand. Yeah, I mean unless Jordan Pole's name
became mud in this year's playoffs. So let's face it,
he had some really bad stretches. The commitment to defenses, well,
we're still waiting to see it at any level. So
it's it's really uh one that that is curious because
we sat here many a night in the Fox Sports
radio studios and watched him come in and sink three

(26:55):
three or four three pointers and suddenly put the game
on its head right with the second unit, and suddenly
he's just all right, you go there. You can score
thirty a game, but nobody's ever gonna care. You're in
this next iteration of Washington fun. And in seventeen days,
you want to talk about remaking a roster made seven
minute abs, six minute abs to help with that seventeen

(27:17):
days to totally turn your organization up side seventeen.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
I really it was in this short amount of time
the Warriors went to, hey, we're gonna be We're gonna
be the old guys now and we're gonna try to
get it done again. When we saw this wasn't enough
the first time around, and we gave away an asset
for a guy that we could have got. I really well,
other teams have been looking around going, man, oh we
needed was Bob Myers to leave. Forget about worrying about

(27:43):
Steph and Clay and how do we defend them. We
just found a way to get Bob Myers out because
look what happened.

Speaker 3 (27:49):
Look at how things are being run now and escalated quickly. No,
I'll tell you this is this is.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
This is like for you and I working out of
play and you have a really great boss who leaves
for whatever reason. Now you know, hey I need a break,
or I'm getting a bigger job, whatever it was, and
the new boss who comes in just immediately when things
are going okay, right then the new boss comes.

Speaker 3 (28:14):
And going, I'm gonna put my mark on this, on
this business. What are you doing.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
I'm gonna slash this and we're gonna cut this and
we're gonna get rid of that.

Speaker 3 (28:21):
What what are you doing when you're ruining the business?
What the hell is wrong? What would you see it?
You do here?

Speaker 1 (28:28):
Oh, if the Warriors had brought the bobs in, this
would not have happen.

Speaker 3 (28:31):
Tell you, this would not have ben would not have happened.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
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Speaker 3 (28:43):
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Speaker 1 (28:44):
The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon.
Finishing up the NBA Draft. We are getting there. One
more pick to go, one more pick?

Speaker 3 (28:56):
Do they celebrate mister irrelevant in this league too? Well,
let's see, it's the second rye. I mean, most of
those guys in the second round. I ain't getting any
playing time.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
So hey, so I got to go to Disneyland. No,
you go to the G League and and.

Speaker 3 (29:10):
And go to the G League or here's your choice
of European spots to play. You're still playing great?

Speaker 1 (29:18):
Uh, you know that's the thing is Okay, we'll get
this coming up in a little bit. But we talked
about the big trade that happened earlier today, Chris Paul
going to the Warriors. The Warriors giving up Jordan Poole,
the first round pick, a second round pick, Chris Mullen,
Tim Hardaway, Mitch Richmond. They gave up a lot in this,
But the one trade we told you that wasn't gonna

(29:39):
happen didn't happen. The trade we told you that was
more a fake hustle to send a message to a player,
and it wasn't gonna happen. Told Zion Williamson wasn't going
to get traded. Zion Williamson has not gotten traded as
more time went on. We mentioned this last night, the

(29:59):
last couple of nights. Look, do the Pelicans really want
to trade him? No, if they were trading him from
a point of strength where he was healthy and on
the court, all right, maybe you'll get blown away by
an offer. But the combination of they have to get
a lot for him because he's still a former number
one overall pick. They just gave two hundred million dollars too. Hey,
you gotta make the salaries match too. That You're not

(30:21):
getting a bunch of scrubs for.

Speaker 3 (30:22):
That when you come by. Yeah, you're only getting salary. Thompson.
They don't want that.

Speaker 1 (30:26):
You so what you want, another team is not going
to give you because this isn't Zion Williamson first round pick,
this is number one overall pick, franchise player. This is
Zion Williamson. Can't stay healthy and he's got other issues
off the court. So you knew this wasn't going to happen.
So when this came out, I knew this was, Oh,
here's them trying to send a message to Zion Williamson.

(30:47):
You straighten up, or we'll trade you. We could trade
you someplace you really don't want to go. We're going
to This is time for us to send a message.
And we know that both sides were kind of had
each other at arm's length, and this was the way
for the Pelicans to get this out there because surprise, surprise,
suddenly you got a whole bunch of people, Bill Simmons
others running with us all he's gonna get traded by Thursday.

(31:08):
As soon as that happened, I said, yeah, it's not
gonna happen, because if Zion Williamson really was going to
get traded, it would have been boom woach breaks it.
Zion's getting dealt. This was the media getting used to
get the message out there that hey, we want to
send a message to Zion and we also want to
send a message to other teams that hey, we really
are hitting our limit with this guy, and maybe another

(31:31):
year and or if it doesn't work, we'll really be
ready to do it. But we're gonna send a message.
And they had all kinds of willing partners to say, yes,
we'll put it out there, we'll talk about it. Here's
a big thing that maybe we think is going to happen,
and we're gonna get clicks and mission.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
Accomplished for the New Orleans Pelicans. Oh, as we talked
about it, it didn't make a lot of sense on any
level because if you're the Pelicans and you're pushing this
through people, well you've already got a distressed property you
can't get on the court, and now you're making them
look bad. Ah, there's malcontentedness with teammates and all these
other things. And you know, if it's out of his camp,

(32:09):
well it doesn't look any better. The Mariah Mills stuff
is just an extra I don't know, it's it's like,
oh and this forget it, you know, yeah, no, forget it. Yes,
if he was a guy that was still showing up
and being able to get on a court every day.
This other thing is just oh, oh, he lives an

(32:30):
eccentric kind of odd lifestyle, doesn't he. And you move
on instead, and you wish the best for anybody that
feels hurt, jilted in whatever in this, But it would
just be, you know, the second ring in the circus
if he was actually being able to play but he's
not right. You put up with a lot of stuff

(32:51):
when the guy's dominating and putting up his twenty seven
point eight per game, but if he can't get on
the court, it's there. But as soon as this was
out and then there's you and I, I mean we
talked about it and laughed about it pretty quickly. It's like,
what are you getting back? What team's jumping in and saying,
you know what, we're gonna fix him. And I know
there's been plenty of instances in all leagues that we

(33:14):
cover where there's that coach. I don't see that for
Zion right now. I don't see somebody jumping up and saying, hey,
he's got two hundred million coming, let's go in and
try to be the ones that get him right now,
not for what it's gonna cost you. Yes, down the line,
that's gonna work. He can't do a long term plan
with him right now. How much money's he making two

(33:35):
hundred million? Can he stand the court? No? Does he
have any off the court issues? Yes, that's our guy.
Go get him.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
Whatever it takes.

Speaker 3 (33:42):
You just close that damn it. Other than wanting to
maybe talk to him about the off court stuff because
it interests you, which again gets you in a weird
spot now, but it's sure. I could see you wanting
to at least have those conversations. But the basketball side
of it, and look, I want to see the guy perform.
We watched him at Duke, we watched the beginning of

(34:04):
his career. He's electric when he's able to play. But
was it realistic anybody who was gonna suddenly say this
is the thing that's gonna jump us to the top
slot unless you were equally dissatisfied and salty with a
highly paid member of your squad. Julius Randall, it was
not gonna happen. There was no suitor like Back to

(34:25):
the Future four not happening.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
We told you.

Speaker 3 (34:29):
And that's where we're at.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
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