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Jason Smith and Mike Harmon discuss the NY Mets Owner Steve Cohen calls the Mets out for sucking. And Jason and Mike give you some NFL off-season hot takes.

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So we got some NFL hot takes coming your way.
In a little bit of hot take theater as we
get ready, good for the beginning of training camp. But

(01:16):
and yes, we'll get to the Mets and that disaster
of a press and game that they have had so far.
Steve Cohen speaks, I could change things if they don't
get better. Mets trail the Brewers five too of the ninth.
I could change the world. And your manager got kicked
out of the games. Yeah, yeah, yeah, mess everything you
could want. Did you really want to be around I
mean maybe he doesn't want to be around, you.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
Know, no, no, at this point, Hey, you got a
dinner reservation, you got to show you've you know, put
on your DVR. Maybe you want to go watch the
US and in this match here or some some women's soccer.

Speaker 4 (01:51):
I mean there's a lot. I mean the NHL.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
Draft, there's lots to do. Yeah, oh no, no, there is.
There's lots of stuff going on. We got people forgetting
who they're drafting in the NHL draft, the brewing of
the Commissioner.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
No, we've got a guy in Detroit named Axel who
looks like a young Axel.

Speaker 4 (02:06):
It's really odd.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
TJ bringing the NHL draft to its No. No, no, no, no, no, no,
knees knees.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
Axel Foley or Rose a little bit like Axel Rose,
Axl Rose from back in the day, kid from Sweden.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
No, that's Brett Michaels and Poison. That's the side from Uh.
Every rose has its.

Speaker 4 (02:27):
Thory that is not the patient's side.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
Get your hair bands and metal of the nineties, correct, Alexis.

Speaker 5 (02:33):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
You can't just play anything you want to all the time.
Although half of me was expecting the Cleveland, but we
didn't get.

Speaker 5 (02:39):
That, not yet.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
Uh now we will get to. Yes, I mean a
press conference that I just keep shaking my head about.
But a big story comes down today in the NFL
that still has a big part of the story to go.
There are going to be some big time gambling bands
expected this week for players in the league. A handful

(03:01):
of players, including Colts cornerback and kick returner Isaiah Rodgers,
are going to get season long suspensions for violating the
NFL's policy on gambling. ESPN Adam Scheff reporting this earlier
in the day. So we're gonna get a bunch of
people that we're gonna find out, Hey, you gambled the
wrong way and now you are going to miss the

(03:22):
entire season, which you know, it's kind of sometimes when
I see a story like this, I go, here's the
NFL who For years fans said, oh you know, why
did you embrace just embrace gambling, just embrace gambling. Now
they embrace gambling players getting spended. See what are you
doing embracing gambling? Well, we knew this was gonna happen.
The players are gonna all get in trouble. It's like
the nflla's like, hey, if we're gonna be danned if

(03:44):
we do dan, if we don't, I'm gonna be damned.
If we're gonna make money on it, so this is
more money for us. So if we can't win either way,
we're gonna embrace gambling and we'll suspend the players. They
have to be suspended.

Speaker 4 (03:54):
Yeah, No, it's it's really that beautiful thing. What do
you gotta right to?

Speaker 3 (03:58):
I mean, it is that slow time in the news stories, right,
because you've got three weeks. I mean there's a lot
going on, but there's not a lot going on.

Speaker 4 (04:06):
Does that make sense?

Speaker 3 (04:07):
So it's the kind of thing where it's like, all right,
they need a column from you. I mean, you know, paycheck,
you're contractually obligated to give us five Like what if
I give you fake outrage, that's several players amongst the
how many other what seventeen hundred players in the NFL
got caught gambling? Yeah, let's do that. How much did

(04:31):
it make for the rest of the players that didn't
get caught gambling in terms of revenue brought back by
the NFL. That's that's the thing that I always chuckle about.
Everybody you know, does the violin playing of this that,
And you know, when it's CBA time whatever, it's like
they're still getting fifty percent of every dollar in league revenue.

(04:53):
That's a lot of money that goes into these payrolls
when it's all said and done, and we always get
the press and the tention. This goes for the NBA,
it goes for the guys in Major League Baseball, pick
a sport. It's a very few select guys and women
that take up all the headlines.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
Everybody else is like, really, man, Like.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
I gotta answer questions because of those three or four guys,
Like nobody knew who this guy was in Indianapolis before this,
no waiting to know who he was, Like it's Anthony
Richards and Richards and Richard if they're doing any Jets
to the Mets, you know, Mets to the Jets kind
of thing, just like you.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
But let's do something, let's do something a little bit
different here off the top of the show. We ready
for this, Yeah, let's go, right. So we're still gonna
find out the names we need to educate. So the
NFL says what they're going to do now to help
reinforce the points. They're going to reinforce the six key
rules of the gambling policy that the league emphasizes. I'm

(05:54):
going to the voids of emphasis are out already.

Speaker 3 (05:57):
We haven't even gotten into the rules for you and
the officials meetings.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
No, I'm going to give you a point of emphasis,
and you tell me if it's a real point of
emphasis or if it's not a point of emphasis. You're
ready to bet?

Speaker 4 (06:12):
So, yeah, are you ready?

Speaker 1 (06:13):
Harm it? Ty shuts Frostberg, You guys ready to go?

Speaker 5 (06:15):
I was born ready?

Speaker 1 (06:17):
All right. I will give you these are six key
rules of points of emphasis. This is what the NFL
says you can't do now, and I give you what
you tell me if it's a rule or if it's
not a rule. First, I have to follow these Yeah,
well yeah, you do. Yeah, well you work for the Chargers, man,
you can't.

Speaker 4 (06:31):
You can't do that.

Speaker 3 (06:31):
You can't get I'm supposed to know these, so you
just can't set it over scamble at all.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
No, no, no, I'll start you off with an easy one.
Don't bet on the NFL. Is that a point of
emphasis or not? Don't bet on the NFL.

Speaker 4 (06:47):
As Jimmy Dugan once said, good advice.

Speaker 5 (06:51):
So yeah, there no betting on the NFL.

Speaker 6 (06:55):
Okay, ty Shirt, I'm gonna say, yes, this is one
where we're hooked up.

Speaker 3 (07:03):
You get a little electric shock if you answer correct incorrectly.

Speaker 4 (07:08):
It's like the buzz leave me alone.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
Okay, don't bet on the NFL. That is a point
of emphasis. I'm sorry, Ty Shirt, that you're not allowed
to bet on the NFL. Why I can't believe that
needs to be a point of emphasis. But apparently that.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
They need to put up a sign like they're leaving
for the field, you know, like it says believe or
whatever it says, do not bet on the NFL today.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
Those who stay will be champions, you know. Yeah, commitment
to excellence. Don't bet on the NFL.

Speaker 5 (07:39):
You guys got that that Ty Shirt will never be
working in the NFL.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
That's the coaches says, They're all going on the field
instead of you're ready to go have a big day,
Tom Brady, Hey, you have a big don't bet on
the NFL. Al right, great, Hey, don't bet on the NFL.
Hey did you bet today? Very good? All right, don't
bet on the NFL.

Speaker 3 (07:53):
Al So you don't have them running your broadcast. I mean,
we've got everybody else in the you know, in the
pool there.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
All right, are you ready? Here we go?

Speaker 4 (08:01):
Yeah, let's go.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
Point of emphasis, it's okay to have a family member
place a bet for you as long as you live
in the same household. Is that a point of emphasis
from the NFL?

Speaker 4 (08:14):
Did you steal that from the terms of service? You
can have a nineteen Netflix account last.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
Time I checked.

Speaker 5 (08:21):
It's the complete opposite answer to what you just said.

Speaker 1 (08:25):
Okay, watch me, I gotta not have somebody. We gotta know.
But if they live in the same household, that's the
question that they are. Is there a rub to this? Okay?
All right, T Shirt.

Speaker 4 (08:36):
I mean that that's still legal, isn't it. They can
still do that.

Speaker 5 (08:39):
Well, Jason, I think if it's over one million. It's allowed.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
Okay, it's okay to have a family member place a
bet for you as long as you live in the
same household. That is not a point of emphasis. Was
living in the basement?

Speaker 4 (08:53):
Sorry for you?

Speaker 1 (08:55):
Uh no, g no, anybody see Richie, don't have some
one bet for you? Is actually the point of emphasis.
Numbers you can't.

Speaker 5 (09:04):
It's not betting, but it doesn't.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
It doesn't matter. They're betting for you.

Speaker 5 (09:08):
They just want some money.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
Now that you got. If uncle rich living in your
basement wants to bet, he's got a bet by himself.
He can't say, oh, man, Tycher told me to bet that.

Speaker 6 (09:16):
No, no, it's it's his choice. I just lended him
some money.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
So so listen. So if Frostburg wants you to bet
on the Chargers, don't take as money. Why because you can't,
because then you'll get in trouble too. You're gonna be
in front of Congress and everybody.

Speaker 5 (09:32):
I have no money, So it's great.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
That would be the end of Frostburg. You don't want
to be in front of Congress.

Speaker 4 (09:37):
The booth would have to change his account.

Speaker 5 (09:40):
Yeah, that's not happening.

Speaker 4 (09:41):
No, I don't know.

Speaker 6 (09:42):
Dave Chappelle told me just to plead the fifth, So
I think I'm okay.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
Whatt you?

Speaker 3 (09:46):
Three?

Speaker 1 (09:47):
Four fief? Is this a key rule of gambling policy?
You are allowed to enter a sports book during the
regular season if you walk in the front door and
declare yourself of an NFL player.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
First you get to yell sanctuary when you are sidh.
I regret teaching you that work.

Speaker 5 (10:08):
I'm Sauce Gardner. Here's my money.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
It's like in John Wick. Oh no, he's in the sanctuary.
You can't kill him.

Speaker 5 (10:14):
I'm gonna need a gun.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
You can enter a sports book in the regular season
if you walk in the front door and declare yourself
an NFL player.

Speaker 5 (10:22):
Absolutely not.

Speaker 1 (10:23):
Don't you know who I am?

Speaker 5 (10:25):
They kicked my dog in season? No chance tight your so, Jason,
you're telling me.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
You're allowed to go into sportsbook if you walk in
the front door, front door, very public entrance, and declare
yourself an NFL player.

Speaker 6 (10:40):
So what if it's like a medieval setting, I hire
somebody to be like entering from the Chargers.

Speaker 5 (10:45):
It's like, is that allow me to gamble?

Speaker 1 (10:46):
I'm gonna say, yeah, okay, if you do that at
medieval times, I guess that's more accepted. Okay, that would
be pretty funny.

Speaker 3 (10:52):
I am now the captain now at medieval times challenged
the king.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
That is not one of the NFL's gamesm just walk
in it. Walking the door's open, walk in the front door.
I'm Aaron Rodgers. I'm an NFL star. That's why mister
Rogers drugs are on me.

Speaker 5 (11:20):
I'm short on time.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
A note saying, Sir Dak of Prescott.

Speaker 5 (11:25):
As he has, that's awesome, comes king of the ring.

Speaker 3 (11:30):
Not a player is comes in dressed like Grady Dick. Yeah,
we sold that from Seth Rollins, so away we go.

Speaker 1 (11:38):
All right. There are no written restrictions about gambling on
football with things other than money, So there's no restrictions
have gamble football, hows if from what? That's pretty good?
I like my Famer wagered his donkey and lost it

(11:59):
in a bed.

Speaker 6 (12:02):
Jason Smith from the Jason Smith sh would like to
play some.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
This way, So I kind of like this. Now there's
no restrictions about gambling out football as long as you
bet something that's not money. Is that a point of him?

Speaker 5 (12:17):
I would like to put down two mules.

Speaker 4 (12:19):
I have put down two pints of blood.

Speaker 5 (12:22):
Take my special lady friend. Whoa.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
I'll bet you two Hamburgers that this is Jeff Wow. Okay,
you're ruined it by going to john Wick all the time, right,
we have that, we have the whole medieval time.

Speaker 5 (12:36):
You never go full john Wick.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
By going to john Wick.

Speaker 4 (12:39):
Can't know the reference. You really had something else going
on there. So everybody won.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
Well what do you think. No restrictions about gambling if
you gamble something, Oh.

Speaker 5 (12:47):
You can't barter?

Speaker 1 (12:48):
Come on, okay, welcome to barn and I'm living here
in Barter. He's a child.

Speaker 5 (12:56):
Here's my house. If the Jets go on seventy.

Speaker 3 (13:01):
But if I win, if I win, I get Brady's
old place in southern California.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
Okay that is?

Speaker 5 (13:10):
Can I answer?

Speaker 1 (13:11):
Don't? Go ahead?

Speaker 5 (13:12):
Go ahead, I'd like to wager this gun. Yes, it
should be allowed.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
Okay, that'd be.

Speaker 5 (13:20):
So that is that Tysher would be a commission in
the future.

Speaker 3 (13:25):
It would be good, pretty good policies, pretty open and
ready for change.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
And that is that is not by the NFL. I'll
tell you hey, but it's hey. But that's what it's
about educating. Now you know the only rule we know
So far, don't bet on the NFL, not like you
need a bunch of other ones. But we know that
so far. It's of course of the night. If we're
this is like a class. It's like a three hour class.
You take one night a week, right, and you learn

(13:50):
everything else about So there we go. But I do
I do feel pretty good about walking in the front
door of the clearing.

Speaker 5 (13:57):
Don't ask me to play daily fantasy football, you knuckleheads.

Speaker 7 (14:02):
I am Raiders running back Josh Jacobs. I am holding
out so I am technically not a National Football League.

Speaker 5 (14:08):
Plant and declare myself safe at the sports book.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
Bring me the finest meats and cheeses.

Speaker 3 (14:14):
Can you can you put that up on your Facebook status?

Speaker 4 (14:18):
Frostburg declared himself safe as a sportsbook.

Speaker 3 (14:23):
You know there's a earthquakes seven hundred miles away and stuff.
Are people in Los Angeles when there's something that happens
in the Bay Area.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
I'm safe, like didn't think you were.

Speaker 7 (14:34):
I'm a football player and would like an update on
the forty nine ers quarterback situation.

Speaker 4 (14:38):
Is it Trey Lance?

Speaker 1 (14:40):
Is it Sam can Ohlah Brockhrting. I need to know
now people are learning. That's the best start people learning.
How I like that?

Speaker 4 (14:48):
There we go something like AI, it's learning.

Speaker 5 (14:50):
Take all my money on Dalvin Cook having seven touchdowns
against the Jets.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
I'm going, oh, it's seventeen. Bet my house the Jets
don't win a game.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
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Speaker 7 (15:08):
I'm a Nation League Football player and I would like
to place away on Thursday Night's game.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
I'm waiting for Jethro Tull's minstrel in the gallery to come.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
Down the line eventually.

Speaker 3 (15:21):
To my lord and ladies.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
Yes, thank you. I would bet on the Lions to
win the NFC and off thanks.

Speaker 4 (15:32):
Well, you know you could go into that whole description.

Speaker 3 (15:35):
You know the Lions have fared pretty well in the
coliseum from many of you.

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(16:02):
all day today so incredibly nervous, just waiting and what
the hell is Steve Cohen going to say? Why is
he having a press conference? Everybody knows the Mets stink.
Everybody knows that bunch of overpaid players the Mets have.
They got old all at once. I told you that
was my fear the beginning of the year. What happened?
They all got old at once. That's what happens. And

(16:24):
this is he should have hired me to be the
GM staidy Billy Epplert. Maybe things to be better. But anyway,
what is he going to say? How is he going
to say something that's not going to be incredibly embarrassing?
And I was so nervous all day And then honestly,
after he talked, there's a couple of things that I
cringed about. But there's a couple of things that I said.
This is why I love him as the owner. This

(16:46):
is why I love him as the owner because his
big message, Dad, he had you gonna hear a little
bit Steve Cohen right now, is that, Hey, if things
don't get better soon, I'm gonna make a bunch of
trades the deadline, and it doesn't matter who it is,
where it goes. It's on the players.

Speaker 4 (17:01):
They're veterans that they've been there before.

Speaker 5 (17:04):
These are players that.

Speaker 3 (17:06):
Have done it, and we'll see if they can get
their act together and and string together some win.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
Look at it, it's on you get your act together
all the I mean, I love that. Yeah, it's on
you. You guys steak. Yeah, I'm paying you money, but you
guys stink. I was. I was nervous, and then I
felt better as the as time went on watching him talk,
and I'm saying to myself, Okay, there's a reason why
this guy is where he is. And you can see
how comfortable he was talking and how there were There

(17:34):
was never a moment where I felt this is this
is the time where he realizes I'm in over my
head as an owner in Major League Baseball. No, it
was he He showed exactly why he's an owner that
everybody should want because he said, listen, it's on you.
If things don't get better, I'm gonna make trades, right.
I mean owners don't usually say things like that. Usually
that that's something at GM would say, or something a

(17:55):
GM would refuse comment on. But this is Steve Cohen's team.
He put it together. He is all kinds of money
on a payroll this year that is absolutely terrible. Three
hundred and sixty million dollars. It's gonna wind up being
by the time the season's all said and done. And
he has no qualms about saying, hey, yeah, you guys
are unnotice you guys are now. Maybe a little bit
is because Buck Showalter keeps saying, hey, you know, the

(18:16):
guys will get it together. Guys. Guy, I understand a
veteran's hand. I understand Buck Showalter saying don't panic, don't panic,
But guys, the season's over. I mean, but for Buck
Sholtz still stills. We gotta get got The season's over.
It's done. The Metster sixteen games out, there are eight
games out of a wild card. You're done. You're done.
The season is over. It's not even the end of June.
Because you stink the season is over. I hate when

(18:38):
teams say, oh, we just had we'll get right soon.
We'll get it right soon. We'll get it right soon. Now.
Now look, you we're not even at the All Star
Breaking you're saying, oh, we're also right, So I can't
stand that. Maybe that's why Steve Cohen said it the
way he did. So I'm digging this right, and now
I've I've kind of turned into Okay, we stink this year.
Now I get to do my second favorite thing, and

(18:59):
that's trade away players in my mind, right, I tell you,
every day, how do I go to sleep? I think
about guys to trade away for the Mets, and well,
we can do and move on. Now I get to
do it every day because now every day that's getting
close to the deadline. You know, Steve Cohen's gonna trade everybody.
And here's the part I like the most, Mike, And
this is what sets Steve Cohen apart from every single
other owner in sports, every single other owner in sports.

(19:24):
What are you gonna do with the deadline. He's got
a lot of guys who think he's not gonna be
able to move. Can't move Verlander can't move, Surezer can't
move some of these that Marte has got money left
on his deal. Because these guys are making too much
money and they're not gonna want a player like that
if they got to pay him money and you're not
gonna get a prospect back. But Steve Cohen's like, no, no, no,
I'll do this because quote, I already consider the money

(19:48):
spent in an unfortunate Yeah, in an unfortunate circumstance. If
I can find some ways to improve our farm system,
that's the path we take, because I'm willing to do it.
No owner has ever spoken that way and said I
consider the money already spent.

Speaker 4 (20:06):
Usually it's what are we gonna do?

Speaker 1 (20:08):
Verlander gets another forty million dollars next year, there's no
way we can trade him. And Steve Cohen's gonna say,
I'll eat seventy five percent of the contract if it
means we're gonna get a good, potentially a good relief pitcher,
or we get a couple of prospects back, I'll I'll
what's the a thirty six million next year, I'll pay
thirty million of it. I don't care, I'll give I'll
pay third. So they're paying him six million for the
rest of this year and next year, and you're gonna

(20:29):
give me a couple of prospects. Then would teams line
up for Verlander? Of course they would. Maybe it was
just new York. Maybe the Mets stink. Verlonard just won
the saw Young, Now give up a couple of prospects.
This is what having money as an owner and not
caring about being I have to be fiscally responsible. This
is what it means. And this is why it's such
a new day and why I'm not even that upset

(20:50):
today after all of this two years. I know he's
just well, no, I'm upset the way the season went.
But you know, Mets to the Jets, Mets gotta get
me the Jets, the metsal game. I'm already here with
Aaron Rodgers every day, man, So I mean it's all right.
I mean, I'm sorry about anything else. I'm already there.
But this is this is this is your owner saying
the money's already spent. I don't care. I don't care
what it is. And no, and owners are not going

(21:10):
to care. In baseball if he still has a three
hundred and fifty million dollars payroll next year, but it's
really four hundred and fifty because he's paying guys who
aren't on the team anymore. I mean, there will be
some owners who will grouse about that and go, oh,
look at that he can spend fifty million dollars on
a guy to make him go away, and that's half
my budget. Sorry that that that's how it goes. But
I don't think anybody's gonna go crazy like dated earlier

(21:31):
this year, going no, what, we don't spend four hundred
million dollars for a reason. He's not gonna listen to
the rest of baseball. He's not gonna listen to what
they say. He's okay, if I can get a couple
of other prospects, That's what I'm gonna do. He ate
all of Eduardo Escobar's money, why so they could get
the eighteenth and nineteenth best prospects the Angels have pitching
in their farm system because maybe they can help the
team win. I'll eat that money. He'll eat Suzers money,

(21:54):
He'll eat Verlanders money. I mean, it's a lot of eating.
I mean that's like me sitting down at a at
a at a at a big compet the beating Consins
just played after play to Bacon and I'm just down
in that like crazy. It's a lot of money. But
he will eat it all because he wants to win,
and I'll just spend new next year and it is awesome.
I went from being so nervous and so afraid of
what's gonna happen watching with my eyes peak you know what,

(22:16):
my eyes threw my fingers to Yeah, this is what
it means to have an owner who says I want
to win and I don't care what it means. And
I'm we may not make the right decisions all the time,
but that doesn't mean we're gonna be afraid of continuing
to go forward. I'm just gonna dust off these guys
who aren't playing well for us, and we're gonna move
on and get other players, and we're gonna try again
in the offseason. I loved what Steve Cohen did today.

(22:37):
Loved it.

Speaker 3 (22:38):
Yeah, No, it was a great speech from a cool
table and all that fun and excitement. And then someone's
gonna remind them, remind him and remind anybody else that
has his ear to say, you know what, we're not
that far from a wildcard. Yeah, there's a bunch of
teams in that log jam, but can we not play

(22:58):
better baseball?

Speaker 1 (23:00):
Right?

Speaker 3 (23:00):
Are you assuming that this is this is as good
as it's gonna get.

Speaker 4 (23:04):
Being eight games under five hundred, I get it. It's
a large sample size.

Speaker 5 (23:07):
Wait, how many games, Mike, eight oh eight games?

Speaker 1 (23:11):
Wow, yeah, we've been we'd be in first place in
the AL Central. Okay, we've been first placed by nine
games in the AL Central.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
But but the point I'm getting to, right is that
when you look at where the standings are right now,
the Marlins, Dodgers, Giants, Philadelphia, Milwaukee, Cincinnati, they're all at
the top, three games or fewer behind the leading Miami Marlins.
The Marlin's playing this way for another half season. Maybe

(23:39):
right we're we're doing we're doing all this as we
go through the process and try to see, well, who rises,
who falls. Cincinnati obviously getting Vado back. Elie Dela Cruz
is now a poster on your wall, and you follow
as every a bet and you're charting is trading cards
like stocks.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
Smith.

Speaker 3 (23:57):
I know you, but you've got the Reds, you got
the you got the Pirates, and the Padres are the
teams ahead of you. I think there's an opportunity with
a little bit of a run that suddenly you're back
in the mix.

Speaker 5 (24:09):
Oh it's dead, Well no, look look you got them.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
Think that I would like to think that I would
love to think that, Mike, you know me, I love
I'd love you try. I would love to think that.
But this team is just terrible. I mean they they
the worst teams in Major League Baseball. They lose two
out of three. Two they find where they find ways
to knights, where their pitching is great once in a while,
they don't score any runs. And most nights when they
score seven or eight runs, the other team scores nine.

(24:34):
They're just not good. And you had a night where
Steve Cohen came out and said, because this is this
is what you do. Right when you come out and
you make a statement and you talk about something, this
is when you expect your team to respond.

Speaker 4 (24:46):
Right.

Speaker 8 (24:46):
Oh, the fire in the belly speechestional fortitude speech you
find no, no, no no. When you fire a manager, usually
it's done right before a series against a bottom feeder team,
so the players get put notice.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
Right. It's not that that a manager is able to
change the courses of a team in one week. Okay,
now I'm gonna do this instead. No, but you fire
a manager, the players get put on notice and maybe
they start playing better. They catch fire and things kind
of gel for you. Right, that's what you do, but
you expect when a big when a big thing happens
in your organization, you do it at a time when
you expect the players to respond.

Speaker 5 (25:21):
Right.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
So Cohen has his press conference today before the game
and says, if things don't change, yeah, I'm gonna trade
a bunch of guys. I'm gonna get prospects. It's on
the players. It's because it is I'm spending this money.
Everybody told me, and you guys are not playing well.
This is on you. And he is one hundred percent.
He puts them all on He puts them all on notice.
And what was tonight a listless five to two loss

(25:44):
to the Brewers against one of the game's best in
Wade Miley. And he was just coming back from injury.
He hasn't been five and two with the three e rah,
he's not. This is when you swayed Miley. You just won.
You just won the night before against Tron who has
been fit fantastic, Right, he's been great. He had six
great starts to start the season. He's been fed. You figure, okay, to.

Speaker 4 (26:05):
Win every game.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
We just beat their best picture one of the best
pitchers in baseball this year. Okay, Wade Miley is fun,
he's not bad. We're gonna come back, and instead you
don't get an effort and your manager gets thrown out.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
I think your manager needs to get fired. If I'm
being blunt about it, well you should be back in
a broadcast booth.

Speaker 1 (26:21):
You could look and I get.

Speaker 3 (26:24):
The roster was assembled for him, blah blah blah, but
don't tell me he didn't have a hand in it.
And then as you get into the season, you've adjusted
nothing and your bullpen management has been dismal. See a Buck, Yeah,
keep walking.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
You could you could fire Buck show Walter, and I'm
sure that's what will happen at the end of the year, right,
because because I don't think Steve Cohen he doesn't want
the Mets to turn into a circus, and that's the
that's the danger, right, he doesn't want him to turn away.

Speaker 4 (26:48):
Wait wait, turn into a circus.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
Yeah, well, because every year is different. Every some years
there's more circus like than others. Some years are a
big top circus, some years are just a circus. Come
in to town for a weekend, quite a ring. Sometimes
it's just a carnival. Sometimes it's just you know, a carnival. Weekend,
you know, like.

Speaker 4 (27:03):
The ones that's set up in mall parking lots for.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
Yeah, that is that's just there from Friday to Sunday
and then that sometimes that's the circus for the Mets.
He doesn't want it to be a circus. He could
fire Bucks show Aalter, but honestly, what's that gonna do?
Are the bet something gonna start playing better? They all
like Buck Showalter, They like, I don't know, yeah, that's great.

Speaker 3 (27:19):
Maybe maybe they need someone they want to battle with
a little bit, maybe someone with a different voice, different ideas.

Speaker 4 (27:26):
You know, Buck's old. I don't have to listen to him.
They go off a few good men on him.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
If I thought firing Buck Showalter would change things, I
would say yeah, But I mean, what what's it gonna do?
It was. It was very frustrating to see that loss
the other night when he refused to bring in the
Mets two relievers the game against the Phillies. It's the
most famous game of the year now in Major League
Baseball because of how the Phillies won that game. I
would have liked to see him do that, and that
was a big time mistake by him. But it's like
everybody wants to now run jump up and blame somebody,

(27:54):
and because of that game, it's, oh, it's all Buck's fault.
It's not Buck Showalter's fault. Francisco indoors aating two twenty right,
it's not as fault. It's not it's not his fault
that Verlander and sures Er suddenly are pitching like number
four starters. It's not his fault.

Speaker 4 (28:05):
I warned you.

Speaker 1 (28:06):
It's it's it's it's just it's just bad. It's just
they got old overnight, and they they did not They
did not maneuver themselves around how to succeed with the
new rules in baseball, with not being able to throw
over to first base, stealing more bases, being able to
to not have to worry about the shift, hit for
higher average the way baseball is trying to. None of

(28:29):
that happened. They just put a bunch of guys out
there and said, Okay, we're gonna succeed, and it didn't work.
It doesn't always work. The Mets stink. But that's why
I like this. He's gonna he's gonna dig out from
under the salaries. I'll pay these guys salaries. I'll get prospects,
and we'll go on and spend again next year, and
we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna keep going til we succeed.
No other owner does that. No other owner in sports
talks about money being no object and means it. Other

(28:51):
guys say, oh, the money doesn't matter. We could spend
the money on this guy. We just you no, no, no,
you would spend the money if you could. No other
owner talks about money and I will bend it and
means it like Steve Cohen does. He's the only one.

Speaker 4 (29:04):
You don't know that he means anything yet.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
I know he's got a three hundred and sixty million
dollars payroll this year. I know we spending that kind
of catch.

Speaker 5 (29:13):
All right, We've wasted enough time on the Mets. Geez.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
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Speaker 1 (29:23):
Oh five second dance party for my favorite song she
did ballet, I'm an Osworts Radio The Jason Smith Show
with my best friend Mike Harmon. It's like one of
my top ten favorite songs of the wo that I love. Skatering,
I don't know why. It's just one of those it's
one of those guilty pledgures. I just love skater boy.

(29:43):
I just can't wait. I sing this like as loud
as I'll sing mister Brownstone when it comes on the radio.
Rely yeah, Oh yeah, you kidding?

Speaker 4 (29:52):
I mean, how do you sing along to love Story
at full throat?

Speaker 1 (29:55):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (29:57):
No?

Speaker 1 (29:58):
And you're dead to me, I didn't.

Speaker 4 (30:01):
This goes back to Richie helping you out before. See
I tie it all together, ha hah. Some got the reference.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
Sometimes that's all right that they said. Jesus, he's a
skater boy. He said, see you later, boy, That's how
it works.

Speaker 5 (30:13):
I'll take tears for fears over this any day.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
No stop, I stop stop. Yes, hey, Strit's gonna play
like seventeen million tiers or fear songs the rest of
the night. We all we got one right now? No, no, no,
we don't need one. Now, we don't need one. Now,
you don't need we don't need one now, making sure? No, okay,
now you know he's got it. Stop stop stop playing
this song, thank you. Uh how about a little bit

(30:40):
of hot take theater National Football League style. Everybody is
taking a look now at what we're looking at from
from minie camp as we get set for the NFL
to take a few weeks off where he really hit
it for training camp. Look, the Jets are less than
a month away from showing up because they play in
the Hall of Fame game and Aaron Rodgers is going
to be there. It's exciting time. So how about little

(31:00):
bit of hot take theater? You ready, Mike Carmen, Yeah,
let's go. All right, I'm gonna make you well. If
I said this and Frostburg was the subject, he would
be mad at me. But I'm gonna make you a
very happy man right now. Hot take number one, The
Chicago Bears win the NFC North. Wow, your Chicago Bears

(31:24):
win the NFC North. First of all, it's a season
of flux for all of the teams, right the Packers,
who knows what you're gonna get with Jordan Love. The
Vikings are gonna be the Vikings. They had a really
good year last year because everything went their way. They
finally had a year with all the breaks.

Speaker 5 (31:41):
Right.

Speaker 1 (31:41):
Yeah, the Lions were good and they were a fun story.
But in the end, oh, the Lions fell a little
bit short and it was what are they gonna be
like this year with the pressure on them. Meanwhile, you
had the Bears, who all they did in the off
season was get better. They had a lot of holes.
Why you pick number one? But now they have a

(32:02):
set of skill position players that are just fantastic. Okay
you're talking about Hey, we had three pretty decent wide receivers.
You moon, He's not bad. You know, Claypool, we like
a little bit more out of him. But you make
the big trade for DJ Moore. Suddenly you got a
big time number one receiver that you can pare with
Justin Fields, who, as long as he grows a tiny
bit as a passer, is gonna be the next Lamar Jackson.

(32:23):
You know he can already run the football the way
he does, he is an unbelievable weapon. You are deeper
at running back. You lost Montgomery, but Khalil Herbert is
pretty good. I like the guy you drafted, Shawn Johnson
is pretty good. You made moves to turn the skill
position players really into something, and the defense is pretty good.

(32:43):
Your secondary is really good. Suddenly, all these changes, all
the money they spend everything to overhaul the roster, it's
a bad division. Yeah, I'll take the Bears to win
the NFC North this year. I hate you. Oh buddy,
what are you doing to me? Buddy?

Speaker 3 (32:59):
I mean I have, you know, a little bit of hope,
and when I was telling you hope's a dangerous thing,
I know people focused on Red being all excited about
hope and Andy being excited about hope. No, No, Chase Claypool.
All the reports are he steaks, which is something.

Speaker 1 (33:16):
It doesn't matter. You have DJ Moore now, so it
doesn't doesn't matter. A good model thinking.

Speaker 3 (33:20):
What's up prosper he's a good model. No, he did
he you know, was on the catwalk that worked out well.

Speaker 8 (33:27):
No.

Speaker 3 (33:28):
I like the receiving corps. I like the skilled position players.
I actually really like Justin Fields. I think he's going
to be uh, he's going to take a big jump.
You got two tight ends. As much as I'm not
a huge Cole Comet guy, you do bring in Tonyan
don't forget it rhymes with Funyon Deep and Khalil Herbert
coming back off injury. That's one of the things that

(33:49):
concerns me. David Montgomery, Hey, now he's a lion.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
Yeah, but you have Dante Forman, who had a big
year last year. I mean, you have enough depth to
overcome a lot of things. And it's a bad division.

Speaker 3 (33:58):
No, I get that, which is why the Packers are
still gonna win it. And Jordan loves gonna mock everybody in.

Speaker 4 (34:04):
Cleaning a bunch of hot takes.

Speaker 3 (34:06):
If he was ready, they would have known. Let it
run its natural course with Aaron Rodgers. And now you
move forward and you've got a lot of young guys
growing with him.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
Have a little bit. I like the cut of your jib,
but you have the best quarterback in the division. It's
gonna be just fine. More NFL hot takes coming up next.
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