June 30, 2023 • 41 mins
With the start of NBA Free Agency starting tomorrow Jason Smith and Mike Harmon debate if James Harden is worth signing and NFL Hot Takes. And longtime NFL Jason Cole swings by for all the latest on the Colts’ players being suspended indefinitely for placing bets on NFL games.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:29):
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(00:52):
two things right off the top, okay. Number one, can
we please get the mets on? I had the mets
on in the other room. I got second and third,
two outs of the ninth then, and can we please
get the mets Secondly, whoever is stealing my ice cream
from the freezer? I am onto you I am onto
you now for stealing my ice cream from the freezer.
(01:13):
Can we get it fingerprinted? You think they're in the system.
I I hope so, because people aren't even stealing my
ice cream, Like that's a whole thing of ice cream
that's in there, Like because what I do is I
buy a thing of ice cream and usually it last
me be like three or four days. I have a
little bit, a little bit, a little bit. Yeah, so
like later the last couple of times I've bought ice
cream and I've had, you know, three usually three or
(01:34):
four scoops at night, and it's fine, three or four scoops.
I put it back in the freezer. Gone gone, gone
back back back back, back back back gone, last two
times gone gone, stolen ice cream gone. Looney doesn't even
work here anymore. It's true, it's still gone. My ice
cream is gone.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Because he used to be very brazen about it. Yes, yes,
And it was the kind of thing where there was he.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Would say, oh, I had I had that chicken palm
last night. It was good. I was saving that really tasty.
Thanks for bringing that in. Yeah, okay, can you guys
hear me? But it was the difficulty of respecting, the
bravado of just saying, ah, this is what I'm doing,
the brazenness or being like, dude, the hell's wrong with you?
I'm stealing? Like this is ridiculous. You're stealing ice cream.
(02:15):
It's stealing on on spoonful already eaten ice cream, like
like I've eaten a quarter of it. I'm gonna steal
the ice cream.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Well, I mean, just like when you maybe put things
and heat it to a certain level to kill off bacteria,
just freezing it do the same.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
I don't know, man, but now I'm on to you,
whoever it is, I'm on to you, Jason. I have
a solution for you. Yes, what's that?
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Just start buying healthy food and nobody touches it. Nobody
touched my stuff.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Then I know you're do you think that's there's a
coincidence there? Yes? Okay, oh I know any of that stuff?
What'd way to keep your own stuff? Right?
Speaker 3 (02:55):
I mean that's you know, have eclectic taste? You like
you know this, I like something a little off kilters.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
And you don't even want to know what that hole
in your ice cream was? What is that? It's seaweed
wrapped seaweed. I don't want that. I don't know. I'm
not gonna eat that. Jason bring. I know he brought
good stuff. Let's have someone he brought. I'll have some
of that ice cream. Sure.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
My older daughter is a self professed meditarian. Okay, yet, well, basically,
if I leave cold cuts, hot dogs, things of that nature,
they become snacks as opposed to you know, an apple.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
So I can't leave that. So she's the one coming here.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
I'm just saying, like, if I leave a bunch of
healthy snacks round, guess what snack habits kind of dissippear,
at least for the moment. Same thing here, I think,
tie shirts onto something.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
I'm gonna bring the food I want to eat. I'm
not gonna eat. Food is if you leave it behind,
it it's riot for the next day. No, but it's radio.
I know, it doesn't matter. Everybody's nodding along. You recognize
it's a bunch of jackals running around here already eating
ice cun I'm gonna radio. People are people. It's it's different,
(04:06):
no different than you know, going to the press box,
except you know, when when you're in the press box,
you have no shame and you continue to pile it
on because everybody else is working and doing something else here.
You only got a couple of folks in the building
at different points of the day. As long as you're
not here during actual business hours, you can almost do
whatever the hell you want. Speaking of a couple of
(04:27):
folks lost, Yeah, thanks for not putting it up, Frostburg,
for your blood, Thanks for not putting it up. Starling
Marte strikeout on three pitches because you know, I know
that's what he was gonna do up there at the
basis loaded and you wanted to watch that. I haven't
seen it. I haven't seen it, but I guarantee you
his last pitch, he waved at a breaking pitch outside
(04:47):
the strikes, but he at least swung at it. Guarantee you.
I'm waiting. Waved at it, just waved at it. Bat
on his shoulder, just waved at it. Look, here's the
ball waving. I'll tell you, man, that race between the
Padres and the Mets, to see who can dump their
high place players faster, that's gonna be the big story
of July. You gotta get out in front fast. You can't.
(05:08):
You can't wait another couple of weeks it's done. Start
doing it now or the Padres will beat the Mets
to it.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
The best thing I want of it all. He did
strike out swinging, so that that's good.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
I guarantee. Just he waved at a breaking pitch outside them.
But at least it's not a backwards k He went
down swinging. At least he tried. Uh is the with
the Mets. So many of their.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Top notch in theory players have no trade clauses of
some capacity, right, So I'd like to be in the
room with those conversations. Yeah, you know when we got
you to come here because we were building the perfect Beast,
you know, just like the Don Henley album of that
title all those years ago. It's really not working out,
(05:52):
as you can see. I mean, Showalter's starting to lose
his mind. He's getting thrown out every other game. So
can you wave no trade clause? Well, that's it's it's
it's gonna be when Steve Cohen calls you. Look, you're
gonna get all your money. We're gonna trade you. Where
would you like to go? That's what it is. It's
gonna be listening I talk to you about, well, where
you want to go? We're not just gonna dump you
(06:12):
somewhere because you can't do it. Where do you want
to go? Where would you accept a trade to? Okay, great,
that's where we'll do it.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Yeah. No, Well, because I'm gonna pick up all the money.
Don't worry. I'm picking up all the money. We can
get good prospects from their system. I'll pick up all
the cats.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Don't worry about it. Off the books, unlimited sandwich service.
You may need to go to one of these other
less desirable markets.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Mike, what are you doing? They're thirty six and forty five?
Keep it moving in now speaking of new destinations for guys.
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(07:00):
likely going to be traded. The big news today in
the NBAS we're getting set for free agency. He has
opted in to the final year of his contract with
the express consent that the Sixers are going to try
to trade him and move on and get him to
a new organization. So Harden opting in exercising his thirty
(07:21):
five and a half million dollar option. And they started
making calls for Harden on Thursday. And the two teams
that he is linked with right now are the Clippers
Cleveland not Cleveland, well, the Cleveland Clippers, well, the Cleveland
Clippers that was a long time ago. The Clippers and
the Knicks. Let me say this, no no, no, no,
(07:43):
no no no no no, no no no no clip
which team are you speak fine? Nickt No, No, I
want nothing to do with James Hard. I wouldn't even
want James Harden in fantasy because I wouldn't want his
name next to my other players on my team because
he could wind up affecting them and they're not as
good because oh I have my name next to James Hart.
(08:04):
No no, no, no, no, no no no no no no. No. Nobody,
especially the Knicks. No, nobody is a James Harden away
from winning anything. I think we've seen that by now.
How many teams do you need to see James Harden
with his Hey, hey, James Harden is here, boy, we
can win something, and you watch them not win until
(08:24):
you decide, oh, maybe he's not that guy anymore. Maybe
he's not, but somehow you still let teads. And I'm
hoping this is just a fake. Hey, interested Harden's people
are talking something because no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no no, the Knicks are bringing back Josh Hart. He
opted in great. No James arn't. No, no, no, no, no,
(08:46):
no on James, no, because the first thing he's gonna
want is I'm opting. I want a three year deal
for ninety five million dollars. No, no, no, no, no,
James Harden is not the same guy. If this was
James Harden of six seven years ago, Hey, okay, the
James Harden who decid, I'm gonna amp my game up
a little bit and I'm gonna learn how to be
a distributor point guard as well as scoring thirty five
(09:06):
points a game. If that James Harden, Yes, but this
James Harden the last two stops where he's kind of
just been a guy and it was gonna be part
of the Big three in Brooklyn. Nope, that didn't work.
It's gonna be him and m beat in Philadelphia. Nope.
That didn't work. What more evidence do you need. You're
not a James Harden away from anything anything. So no Nicks,
no Clippers, that's fine. No no, no, no, no no.
(09:28):
I'm putting this out there for the Nicks. No no, no,
I keep saying.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
No.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
It's gonna stretch all the way. It's gonna be hands
across America. It's gonna stretch all the way to New York,
all the way, and I drink your milkshake alright, streak
all the way to New York. No no, no, no no.
I'm building a bridge of nose right now. And it's
a big bridge. It's like the Bill, It's that big bridge.
It's biggest bridge. What is the Ambassador But no, no,
the Mackinaw Bridge. Whatever. No, no, no no, building that
(09:51):
big bridge all the way all the way from here
to New York. No no no. And then I'm gonna
put a guard at the end of the bridge, and
then I'm gonna blow up the bridge so nobody could
travel along the bridge and get him to the Knicks.
That's what I'm doing right now. No no, no, no, no,
I kind of dig that.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
No, there's like a mini movie there right either that
do we get the music video with little James Harden
with the big head in a car.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
I'm a traveling man, made a lot of stops. It
sounds like a t skin over there. Look at hard
driving his big head driving around. Xach is saying stuff
loving and he's gonna stop here, but only for five minutes.
Then he's gonna take off go someplace else for three minutes.
That's what's happening right now.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Oh he's like the gone fishing an extension of that.
Oh yeah, because at this point that's kind of what
James Harden is doing. Yeah, yeah, no, all right, I
played a couple of hands with you guys. Here go fish, Yeah,
send me away.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Look, I like the organized chaos of it all. And
he's still a big name and on any given night,
and that's the big point, on any given night can
still be that guy and lure you back in that
full sense of security.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
But it's not any given night. It's maybe one given
night over a four weeks. But that's why. What about
the rest of the time. But that's the point is
of it. The rest of it. He's dragging his feet
up and down the court because he's tired. It's like
going on a date with somebody having one great night.
(11:19):
We had such a great time. What happened the next month?
That really hasn't worked out? But then oh, in another
great date happened to work out. Really no, no, no,
no no no no.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Man, the energy, the moon, all of those things come together.
Everything's in cycles, and maybe it works for James Harden.
Would I'd love to see him here in Los Angeles?
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Is he areolf? James Harden is a were wolf?
Speaker 3 (11:42):
I see what I did there. I tied it all
together and James a were wolf. I laid it up
and you dunked.
Speaker 6 (11:51):
I wanted to see if my beard comes all the
way out all of a sudden, his teeth get really sharp.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Harden is a werewolf. For a second, I thought it
was gonna slip past, and then the synapses started firing.
You turned on into a werewolf. That would be hey,
way way. That's the idea. What what NBA stars would
be famous monsters of years past? James Harden would be
Team Wolf Frankenstein. And oh, I was going back further.
You're going back? Oh you want to go back to
the classic? You know Wolf is pretty good too, And
(12:18):
I like that that's good. I man, that we still
got you know Frankenstein. We have Dracula, Mummy, the Mommy.
But James Harden is the Wolfman apparently, but that's just it.
And then come to the playoffs, you know where he is.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
He's moving on to another town, to another carnival, trying
to hide in the shadows.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
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Slash match. So on James hard No no no no
(13:02):
no no no no no no no no, yes, yes.
I want to see him with Tibeau. Think about him
working with Thibadeau. How great? No no no no no no.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
I mean here in Los Angeles watching our fellow media
members meltdown is one thing.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Dalen Brunton on The Sixers, it's going to be nice.
No stop, it's not happening Come on, Jalen bruns is
not going anywhere. He's the greatest player in the history
of the NBA. He's gonna go down as a number
one player when it's all said. And I forgot about
top fifty, top seventy five, greatest player. You know, a
great player for Jalen Brunson in may as well hit
me in the face because he's good in the face.
(13:38):
In the face you just worry about saying, Hey, can
we get the eighth best player off of the Nuggets
to come save the Lakers?
Speaker 6 (13:45):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (13:45):
I hope we get Brown. He's like the ninth guy
in the rotation. He's gonna make it for us. Wow,
they got you to click click on that story, sucker.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
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Speaker 1 (14:04):
Ty Shirt.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
What's the name of the band that sings this song?
Oh gosh, this has to be MM. Who's Lenny Skinner?
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Play on?
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Who Lenny Lenny SKINNERD? Yeah? Oh, it's it's his own thing,
Leonard SKINNERD Is it? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (14:20):
I thought it was a band. No no, No, it's
one guy like Lenny and then Travis Skinnerd or something
like that.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
It's Lenny skin Lenny Skinnerd is his name, and he
plays all the instruments in the band.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
Okay, then I'm gonna guess Leny Kravitz is this one?
Speaker 1 (14:31):
It is Lenny Kravitz, is it?
Speaker 5 (14:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, because this they use this in
Hunger games. Yes, yes, right, exactly. Here's my question. No
one ever seemed hungry in the game, though, Well, you
were hungry to survive and then he played Twisted Sisters.
Stay hungry for that. Now there's a restaurant I go
to in Clearwater. I'm showing Jason the Lojo here, and
it's Lenny's and it's well greasy looking, not quite from
(14:56):
the Lenny and Squiggy Clearwater or just Clearwater clear Water Clares,
Clearwater Clares, Clearwater Clares, clear Water. Wow? You like that?
Uh little Clarence Carter reference.
Speaker 6 (15:06):
Did the Mets lose last week? Did the Mets lose
last year? Did the Mets lose every day of the year?
Say it, I'll be losing, dude, d.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
How money strikes? Did mart you know? Let me tell
you this. You want a Bowl prediction that's not really
that is, but is absolutely coming true. He's fired for
striking out to end the game. Of all the pole
predictions I made, I guarantee you this one, uh Starling
Marte will be the next guy whose contract Steve Cohen
eats and trade them away, because when you're talking about
(15:38):
trading Verland Schurzer, it's a bigger thing because these guys
are due the rest of a thirty million dollar contract
this year with thirty five million dollars. That's also because
nobody wants them, right, No, they would want them. Nobody
wants they would want them. There's no market for that.
Now there's a market if he eats all the money
and he doesn't care about the market. For sure, there
is teams to take sures are in a second. If
(15:58):
you don't leave, I'm not paying them. Yeah Verlander, who's
taking Verlander? Verlander's a tougher sell, but sure has lost
a game in them.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Think the Sureser thing, it's more of the size of
that contract. Sure you can get out of that last
year or two of that, then you might feel better out. Yeah,
like Steve Cohen could say, listen, hey, here's Max Schurzer.
You have the rest of this year. Next year he's due.
We're gonna eat the rest of this year and then
twenty million of next year. So you're paying fifteen million
for Okay, great, and then you get a couple of
prospects for him. So that trade is there. But the
(16:27):
Marte trade easy. I mean you watch him tonight.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
I mean seriously, he just waves it pitches he has
Sometimes I walk up and I go, what is he doing?
Does he even have a plan. I'm just gonna wave
whatever pitch is out there. There's video virally making the
rounds of a woman yelling don't swing at everything before
he comes up with a bit tonight, and he swung
the truck out a three pitches. At least he tried.
He is the next guy stood there with the bat
(16:51):
on his shoulder. He is the next guy getting traded
because the Mets can figure out his position. The market
for starting Mark sure there is if again, Steve Cohen says,
I will pick up them. Someone's gonna wat who's doing that.
Someone's gonna want Marte. Hey, look, the Mets got got
the Angels to take Escobar, and they got the prospects
nineteen and twenty. Yeah, I think they can trade Starling Marte.
(17:12):
He's better than the water of Escobar. He's just he's
just cooked barely. He's just cooked barely. He's absolutely cooked.
He's got he's got twenty one stolen bases. The guy
that's it, that's all the guys, right, he has a
last name, and the other Marte and Escobar did even less,
and the Mets still got something telling you he's gonna
eat the money and get prospects. Angels.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
On Saturday they beat the hell out of the Rockies
and then brought in Mike Mustakis. I didn't know the
moose was still playing loose was loose.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Everybody the Mets have is gonna be legitimately. He's a guy.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
He's hitt ju seventy two four home runs, eighteen RBI.
But he got he got acquired. So if the price
is right, he's gonna find.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
You, guys. Give the Angels everybody that way, Tom for sure.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Also to see if we do go fully into this mode,
it's gotta be like a reality series, like a series
of if you call us now, let's negotiate on air.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Hard knocks Base.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Yeah, let's make it a whole other way, here's what
you need to do. You wear a crazy costume. Wayne
Brady shows up and we get active Brady.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
We have to get the Padres in on this too,
because the Padres actually players. They have better players who
are younger that you could get a better return. It's
better who's better on that team? Oh well, to tease,
is better, yes, you than anybody the Mets have that
they're gonna trade. Sure, and his numbers don't show it
to tea. Yeah, but he's still twenty three years old.
You know he's still somebody that are way behind him.
(18:42):
You have Sodo, You have a bunch of guys that
you're paid. You got Machado, You set a bunch of
guys you're paying. Telling you man, Mets and Padres. The
Mets and Padres are gonna fist fight for who can
I know we need to trade our high priced guys first.
It'll be like the Anchorman fight when the Mets are
just suddenly gets rounded and the Padres are all riding
their bicycles. So I've fred and they're all three touching
(19:05):
of their face. That's what it's gonna look like, that
they're riding around on ten speeds. It's gonna have the
white pants like Vince Vaughan. Hey, guys doing there. That's
what it's gonna be. Mets and the Padres who can
trade there? This trade deadline is gonna be fun.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
I mean there's not very many sellers the Mets and
the Padres.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Yeah, yeah, there, you're big sellers there. You're a big
sellers because they couldn't figure out the new major League
Baseball and they just said we're gonna throw a bunch
of guys out there and try to win. And you see,
sometimes that doesn't work. That stupid as strategy doesn't work.
Have there ever been more underachieving teams the first half
of the season than the Mets and Padres? Ever, Oh,
with the money they're paying right, Not with this kind
of money? Are you kidding it? His history, There's been
(19:48):
other teams where you could say, boy, they're really disappointing,
but not the teams that went all in and spent
all kinds of money on this. Even the Rangers went
and spent money and they got it. The Rangers never
get anything like the Grom's not even playing one of
the guys you paid a lot of money to and
all of this every time I see the Rangers. Ranger
fans all say the same thing to me, and all
this without de Gram, Yes, I know, all this without
(20:10):
He's never gonna bitch again.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
For the non Rangers among us, not happening, or people
who invested in de Gram rookie cards, or Mets fans
that are like, well, at least we get we don't
have any of those guys from the rotation of years
ago still hanging out here.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
They might not have known de Grom was there. No, no, no,
the people are gonna go is he still playing? He's
gonna be out through all of next year? The Mets
wish they still had him, No, they don't. Why so
we cannot be pitching be at least, dude, think about this.
Of all the horrible mistakes the Mets made, all the
horrible stakes, this surezer virlin all these guys, they could
(20:45):
also have been on the hook for de Gram. Yeah,
Carlos Korea, but hey, hey, his day is coming up.
His day is coming up. I sent you guys to
wink with the hat. We're gonna I think about some
of those guys like, oh boy, we got lucky, We
got lucky on that one. I'm lucky on that one too,
all right, Nott's need to pay us to wear those houses.
You have to pay man, Watch out Twitter, and how
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Of all those mistakes, it could have been worse. Well,
(21:29):
but that's thing. You make a lot of moods. You're
bound to. Yeah, make a couple of mistakes, yeah, or
all mistakes are all of them? That means you're due.
Isn't that what people always yell?
Speaker 5 (21:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah they're not.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
I mean Vargas is in the lineup again for the Dodgers.
He's won for his last thirty four. That would make
him easy due, right.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Like when Krusty bet on the on the job Washington Generals,
then they were due.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
He's probably due more for getting sent down to the
minor leagues.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
But that's a whole other conversation. For another time. But
let me tell you something. Yeah, and Frostburg's gonna hate this.
You know who is getting set to do something really
big and is being really smart right now. Two things
you would never say about this team. Two things you'd
never say. They're gonna do something really big and they're
being really smart right now. The Lakers watch out. Everything
(22:22):
around them is surrounding players who want to go there
because the Lakers have become a destination after getting to
the Western Conference finals. Yes, you get swept by the Nuggets,
but the Nuggets won the NBA title. Yeah, okay, a
little bit of a little bit of seasoning for the
Lakers and a couple of additions, and yeah, maybe the
Lakers get over the top. You have a Lebron James
(22:43):
who bought back in a d You're gonna bring back
Hot Chamora. You're gonna you're gonna bring back Austin Rees'.
You're gonna do all of these things. But everything you
see every day are all players who are linked to
the Lakers. Today, the big story was Bruce Brown, right
could leave the Nuggets, You would really hurt the defending champions.
Bring somebody who if he hits threes like he did
(23:04):
during the season. He could be a really big threat.
Right every day you see guys Aaron Gordon's another one. Hey,
maybe he just takes less money and comes across the
hall to the Lakers. The Lakers have become a destination again.
And what they've done by extending their qualifying offers to
Hatchamora and Reeves is they've given themselves flexibility. They are
keeping their options open and they can do anything they
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want to. They can make a run of Chris Middleton
if they want to go get a guy. Hey, you know,
we can do something and package a couple of players
and go. We can dangle D'Angelo Russell to trade talk.
Suddenly the Lakers have assets, They have players that have
value to them and players around the league. I'm telling
you the Lakers being this destination, they're getting set to
do something really really big. Could be a shocker, sign
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and trade with some of the guys you're not thinking about. Well,
we have to be able to move Russell. We had
to move him. We had to pair him up with
Austin Reeves. But this allows us to go get whatever
it winds up being. They're going to go for it
a large way because they have to. They have seen that. Now. Hey,
this past year was a surprise. It was found money
for them. Hey, getting into the playoffs, winning that first round,
(24:10):
winning the second round over Golden State. Now the Lakers know,
we can't waste any more time, We can't waste any
more of Lebron, we can't waste more of Ad. It
wasn't supposed to work, but it did. So the pressure
of them to go out there to do something is
going to be immense, and they will do it because
right now everything meets. You can want to do something
till you're blue in the face, but if you don't
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have the assets to make a trade work, you're not
people that want to come play for you. You're not gonna
get anybody. The Knicks have tried that for years and
now finally they're getting players who want to go to
the Knicks. The same thing is the other way. Hey,
you could you could want to be able to you could. Hey,
you could have guys coming in to do whatever you want.
But you don't have money, you don't have assets, You
can't bring in the guys you want. But that is
a big confluence for the Lakers right now is they
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have become a destination. They don't have a lot of salary,
they are married to, and they have players who want
to come there, and players they can go and make
moves for him, bring them in. Everything is aligning for them.
They're gonna do something big. They're being really smart right now.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Well, I mean, they did the only thing they could
do with Reeves and Hatchamura. You can't pay them what
the fair market value will be, so we put our
qualified all right, when you go sign somewhere else for
a lot of money, because you know, according to some reports,
you know, Austin Reeves is a seventy million dollar guy
in today's Oh.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Don't sell him short. Don't solve them short. Maybe more
than that, maybe it could be one hundred million dollar guys.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Anyway, the point being that, you know, when you can
only give him a qualify and fining offer of two
point two and he probably gonna be it. But you
know what, you're getting a draft pick back, not a
good one. But you could say here getting assets back.
But it's it's the conversation about the Lakers, and you say, hey,
they're realizing, well they should have known that that fuse
(25:47):
was burning. Like you know, when we watch our old cartoons,
a lot of them, which you know, they don't get
to er quite in the same way they used to.
Of u Oh, time's running out right. Just take Itchy
and Scratchy. Let's use fox property. As you go there,
what happens bad things. And that's where we're at with
with Lebron and Anthony Davis. You know that fuses is
(26:08):
about to enter the house. When's the cablamo and when
do you have you know, the skeleton cat looking at you.
That's really where we're at and all of this and
last season, you know, everybody got all excited. Oh wow,
look at what they did, and it's just crazy. What
a cinderellis. No, you had Lebron James and Anthony Davis.
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You were expected to be good. And guess what, you
didn't wave a giant white flag when it came to
the trade deadline. You got rid of Russell Westbrook and
you made a run for it, and the seas parted
biblically to give you an opportunity for a big run. Okay,
that's great, but it's not like the necessarily the building
(26:50):
block because those guys are a year older, they were healthy.
There was this entire run and now we're gonna double
down saying yes, they're gonna run rough shot again through
the playoffs. I don't know that I take that bet right,
if we're gonna do that thing year after year of well,
you only have one year of data to say this
guy can do it, right, I get challenged him right
Fantasy football, right now, but Caafrey should be number one.
(27:11):
It's like, well, I don't know he's hurt all these
other years. He's only done it one year. Is he
the best running back or is he not? But we
can't then go the other side and say, well, Anthony
Davis and Lebron James, look what they did this last run.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Really yeah, but if you did it one a, if
you're bringing another talent to lessen the load on them,
and hey, we'll be ready for them, cause look, they
could take time, they could take the first two and
a half months of the season off. Thing is they
don't really gar anymore. I think we could do that again.
Lebron did all his minutes only because he was trying
to get to the scoring record. That's on him.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
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Speaker 1 (27:50):
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the end of this interview. He is on Twitter at
Jason Cole six two. That is at Jason Cole sixty two.
It is Jason Call. What's happening, buddy.
Speaker 5 (28:05):
Everyone in Canton is nervous right now because this thing starts.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Well, are you actually gonna do?
Speaker 5 (28:11):
Are you?
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Are you ramping up and doing this from a sports
book somewhere with a bunch of NFL players.
Speaker 5 (28:19):
Yeah. As a matter of fact, Aaron Rodgers, never mind stop.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
I told you signing with the Jets is gambling enough,
all right, that's enough for that.
Speaker 5 (28:30):
It pretty much is sort of like rooting for the Mets, right.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Oh you know, no, that's not a gamble. You know
what you sign up for when.
Speaker 5 (28:35):
You do it, the Jets in the Mets with a combination.
There you go, three swings and you're down Starling marked
r Wow, look.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
At that just came right over the top. He actually
made contact with his bat. Now I have to make sure.
Speaker 5 (28:56):
What you now have to do is you have to
go to ohiowakee conference all by yourself, just to get
something to get you through the rest of the Mets season.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
I kind of feel like, the next time he does
a speech, we should go listen.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
I always feel the same, just to be in the
audience to see I.
Speaker 5 (29:12):
Always should feel the same way. Oh dude, it's a
downer to be a Bets fan. Man.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
No, no, But here's the thing. I always have to
remember what's important, and that is the Jets have Aaron
Rodgers's That's what's important. I'm gonna forget about.
Speaker 5 (29:26):
That, us on that because I'm sure the Jets season
will come up back, especially once.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
They start with hard knocks.
Speaker 5 (29:35):
Come on, let's yeah, the NFL forcing you to do
hard knocks because I'm sure Aaron Rodgers will be totally
into this.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Of course, it's cameras in front of him. This is
what he wants. It's why he picked the Jets. He
wants it. It's gonna be fine.
Speaker 5 (29:51):
Oh yeah, it's all gonna be great. As Robert Salad goes, okay, Aeron,
are you okay?
Speaker 1 (29:59):
All right?
Speaker 5 (29:59):
Go Goco get out of here. Please please get the
cameras off of him. Get the cameras off Rogers.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
I will say this, Jacole, one of the best things
for this upcoming football season is in our new studios here,
we have a camera that is fixed on us the
entire time. So on Monday and Thursday nights when they
play in primetime, you're gonna get to watch the melttown
live and in living color.
Speaker 5 (30:24):
Oh, it's gonna be like Jimmy the Greek that time
that he lost all that money on a Sunday and
he was just like switch wedding. Oh, there were many
of them. Those are the great when the Greek was
losing at a half time in a bunch of games
and he was just disconfle it because like he had
just gotten off off the line with his bookie, but
(30:45):
like doubling up on all the afternoon game.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Nun chilled? Absolutely, wait doesn't Why are you play at midnight?
Speaker 5 (30:51):
No?
Speaker 1 (30:51):
That was last night? Du loo can I do?
Speaker 5 (30:53):
Oh? Come on, come on, I need action.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Listen, it's all gonna work. We're going to the super Bowl.
It's absolutely all.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
You guys can laugh and it's you're talking about your
show is going to the super Bowl. Like your show,
You and Harriman are going to the super Bowl. That's
what you mean.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
We are taking over Vegas? Of course we are all going.
Speaker 5 (31:17):
Going, Yeah, you guys might be staying in Barstow, but
what the hell you're going to Vegas.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. Hey, listen, at this point.
Speaker 5 (31:26):
The Jet season is going to Barstow, the NFL, the NFL.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
May change the Super Bowl. If more players keep getting
busted for gambling. We can't go back to Vegas. Now,
look at all, this what a horrible headline.
Speaker 5 (31:38):
It's a bad look. It's a really bad look for
the league that this is happening, like they just have
they have no idea how to control this, and it's
all out in the open now. So they can't ignore
it because there is there's a real issue here with
the integrity of the game. So they can't cover it
up at all. It's going to become way too obvious.
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And so all the unseen gambling that they ignored for
decades and decades and decades now actually matters.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
Well, the hardest part, Jake, with the reports, it's, look,
we know the guys are going to bet, like look,
human nature, vice, whatever, But the fact that we keep
getting me oh yeah, they did it in the facility
line of really you weren't smart enough to at least
not do that. Like that's the thing that baffles me,
(32:28):
Like that they get bet, you know, make a bet
and make a bunk.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
I get it.
Speaker 5 (32:33):
Don't everybody in the world just come to work and
just call their booky all the time, or you know,
make their bets online and stuff like that. Is you know, like, oh, coach, hey,
wait a second, between between practices or between meetings, can I,
you know, can I get on my computer a little bit?
Oh you know, hey, just a second here, I've got
to get online with my phone so I can place
(32:53):
a little action on this game. But the line just
moved by a point.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
Why was earlier Jason that they need to take the
the old signs for the smoking section and now just
putting this is where you can bet and you're cordened off.
Speaker 5 (33:07):
They I don't know what they're going to do. I
know that Rogers, but he's sitting here going, I don't
know how to handle this. He doesn't really have a
great answer other than to, you know, keep suspending guys
right and hope that hope that guys get the message. However,
and nobody ever really truly learns you know, because they
don't pay attention, especially the guys who got suspended today,
(33:30):
Like there's not a really big star out there. So
I mean the closest thing that they've had to a
real big star players obviously Calvin Ridley, and that's already
sort of been forgotten in a lot of ways. Right,
So the only way they're really ever going to scare
all the players is like some big time players probably
going to have to take a hit for this, and
(33:52):
that'll teach guys, you know, for five, six, seven years,
and then they'll all forget about it again. But yeah,
I mean, the cat's out of the bag here. Guys
are gambling, just like everybody in public who's gambling, and
the NFL has no real answer other than they're scared
out of their minds one thousand percent. They're scared out
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of their minds about finding out that somebody has either
inside information or is betting on one of their own teams.
Like that is the thing that scares the NFL more
than any single thing.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Well, and here's a part of that is that something
that could have already happened and we just don't know
about it because the NFL, we know the NFL does
great stuff covering stuff up, like I wouldn't be surprised
if in a few years we find and oh, yeah,
yeah that happened, because you know, if the NFL doesn't
want something to get out, it doesn't get out.
Speaker 5 (34:42):
Well yeah, I mean, and that's I mean, you kind
of asked an impossible question. I think I would hope.
I would hope that the players would have enough common
sense not to bet on their own team. I would
hope that they would not, you know, I would hope
that the league's connection to the gambling business would tell them, Hey, look,
(35:10):
we got to make sure that this doesn't happen. So
you know, we'll look the other way on all this
other stuff, but you've got to help us out, you know,
gambling world, if we're going to do business with you,
you have to make sure that we know if this
gets out there, and it's like I was talking with
another show. You know, you know that guys like Billy
Walters are out there waiting to find find out information. Sure,
(35:34):
so they're you know, they're paying anybody and everybody as
much as they possibly can to get inside information. And
if it happens to start among the players, that's are real.
That's such an enormous problem.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
Is Jason Cole with us here The Jason Smith Show
with Me Mike Harmon, Live from the ti rac dot com,
Fox Sports Radio Studios. Author of eight books, Go pick
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Amazon dot Your kid is.
Speaker 5 (36:01):
Not that great. Shut up, your kid's not that great.
Pick it up. That's the new one baby.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Yeah, it's a good reason.
Speaker 5 (36:08):
I'm sending him to Baby Gronk's dad.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
Well, Real Gronk told him to beat it. He was
contacted more than five hundred times, so before this even
became a thing, Ja Cole, Gronk had already told his brothers.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, tell her.
Speaker 5 (36:22):
I've already told you.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
To go away. Dad is Frostburg to do an interview.
Speaker 5 (36:29):
I'm I'm surprised you guys haven't had Baby Gronk on already.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
No. No, it's to show.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
Of integrity and that I mean I would not I
would not take the sanctity of.
Speaker 5 (36:40):
Microphone, this show, this show, and the word integrity. Serious.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Wait talk, Hey dude, this interview we're doing right now
is borderline. We're not going to do another one like it.
Speaker 5 (36:49):
Well, that's my whole point like, you know you got
meet me on how many times? And you're worried about integrity.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Hey, you're a haul of very good voter. You are
you over You got none of those cowboys out that
we were looking for.
Speaker 5 (37:02):
It's hall of fame, Hall of fame. You've overall fame.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
Not the way you've been voting. It's not okay. You've
also overthrown two people running the Hall of Fame, and
now you're looking at the third.
Speaker 5 (37:14):
Yeah, Baker down Porter, Porter's next.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
All right, speaking you guys, getting over run Steve Barry.
Speaker 5 (37:20):
I ran Steve Berry off the road. Pal on that
on that highway from Cleveland to can gone, baby, well
he should have.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
Been going very nice, Mike, very thank you, thank you
very much.
Speaker 5 (37:31):
Yeah, very well played.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
Who's Who's Lloyd Howelling?
Speaker 3 (37:35):
And will Roger Goodell defeat him as frequently as he
did to Mort Smith as executive director the NFL.
Speaker 5 (37:43):
I'll tell you this, plenty of players want to know
the answer to that question.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
Who's It's like a drop play on the show.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
Who is it?
Speaker 5 (37:53):
Who heard of him? Who down running our union? That's right,
that's what the That's what a lot of guys are
saying right now, like I think he's in. The man
has an incredibly impressive resume, and he's obviously an incredibly
bright man in NBA from Harvard thirty four years, very
(38:13):
high level corporate guy. He has not one minute of
experience with the NFL, not one minute. Nobody in the
league knows who this guy is. And I don't. I
hesitate to criticize this move because the criticism comes off
(38:36):
as a rip at Lloyd Howe, and it's not because
again we're talking about a very accomplished man. But the
players don't understand what their business is. Their business is
about football, and this is the thing that they miss
all the time. Since nineteen forty one, there have been
(38:57):
five NFL commissioners, right, five in eighty plus years. Right,
every single one of those Mets who worked as the
commissioner of the NFL worked in football as a coach
or an owner. You know, Burt Bell was a coach
and an owner, or as a GM or PR guy
(39:19):
like Pete Roselle, was a league attorney, or spent their
entire career like Roger Goodell. Okay, in the league office.
Those guys understand the football business and the players. For
the last fifteen years, and now for however long Lloyd
(39:40):
Howell is you know, in this position have been led
by guys who are complete outsiders, who don't understand the business,
who don't even know what the priority among players is
when it comes to things as simple as safety, like
because they didn't play. So I just all look at
(40:00):
this and say, guys, you need to hire. And you
don't necessarily have to hire a player. I get that,
but you have to know, hire somebody who knows your business,
who knows what to do, who understands the value, who
knows who the media people are in your business, who
you know has institutional Now. I mean, I just go
(40:20):
on and on. I know fans don't care, but the
players are just they just don't get it, and they're
going to get I was talking with another writer last
night and we were just talking about how all the
rhetorics at the NFL put out in twenty eleven about
how much they weren't making enough money in this and matter.
It's like they're going to track the same rhetoric in
(40:42):
twenty thirty in advance of that negotiation, and they're just
going to take those guys for a ride again. They're
going to take like five or six points from those guys,
then it's going to be another bloodbaths economically for the players.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
You can follow on Twitter at Jason Cole sixty two.
That is, at Jason Cole sixty two. Jake Cole as
always buddy, appreciated, my friend. We will talk to you
next week. Enjoy it.
Speaker 5 (41:06):
So it is.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
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two things right off the top, okay. Number one, can
we please get the mets on? I had the mets
on in the other room. I got second and third,
two outs of the ninth then, and can we please
get the mets Secondly, whoever is stealing my ice cream
from the freezer? I am onto you I am onto
you now for stealing my ice cream from the freezer.
(01:13):
Can we get it fingerprinted? You think they're in the system.
I I hope so, because people aren't even stealing my
ice cream, Like that's a whole thing of ice cream
that's in there, Like because what I do is I
buy a thing of ice cream and usually it last
me be like three or four days. I have a
little bit, a little bit, a little bit. Yeah, so
like later the last couple of times I've bought ice
cream and I've had, you know, three usually three or
(01:34):
four scoops at night, and it's fine, three or four scoops.
I put it back in the freezer. Gone gone, gone
back back back back, back back back gone, last two
times gone gone, stolen ice cream gone. Looney doesn't even
work here anymore. It's true, it's still gone. My ice
cream is gone.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Because he used to be very brazen about it. Yes, yes,
And it was the kind of thing where there was he.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Would say, oh, I had I had that chicken palm
last night. It was good. I was saving that really tasty.
Thanks for bringing that in. Yeah, okay, can you guys
hear me? But it was the difficulty of respecting, the
bravado of just saying, ah, this is what I'm doing,
the brazenness or being like, dude, the hell's wrong with you?
I'm stealing? Like this is ridiculous. You're stealing ice cream.
(02:15):
It's stealing on on spoonful already eaten ice cream, like
like I've eaten a quarter of it. I'm gonna steal
the ice cream.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Well, I mean, just like when you maybe put things
and heat it to a certain level to kill off bacteria,
just freezing it do the same.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
I don't know, man, but now I'm on to you,
whoever it is, I'm on to you, Jason. I have
a solution for you. Yes, what's that?
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Just start buying healthy food and nobody touches it. Nobody
touched my stuff.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Then I know you're do you think that's there's a
coincidence there? Yes? Okay, oh I know any of that stuff?
What'd way to keep your own stuff? Right?
Speaker 3 (02:55):
I mean that's you know, have eclectic taste? You like
you know this, I like something a little off kilters.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
And you don't even want to know what that hole
in your ice cream was? What is that? It's seaweed
wrapped seaweed. I don't want that. I don't know. I'm
not gonna eat that. Jason bring. I know he brought
good stuff. Let's have someone he brought. I'll have some
of that ice cream. Sure.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
My older daughter is a self professed meditarian. Okay, yet, well, basically,
if I leave cold cuts, hot dogs, things of that nature,
they become snacks as opposed to you know, an apple.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
So I can't leave that. So she's the one coming here.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
I'm just saying, like, if I leave a bunch of
healthy snacks round, guess what snack habits kind of dissippear,
at least for the moment. Same thing here, I think,
tie shirts onto something.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
I'm gonna bring the food I want to eat. I'm
not gonna eat. Food is if you leave it behind,
it it's riot for the next day. No, but it's radio.
I know, it doesn't matter. Everybody's nodding along. You recognize
it's a bunch of jackals running around here already eating
ice cun I'm gonna radio. People are people. It's it's different,
(04:06):
no different than you know, going to the press box,
except you know, when when you're in the press box,
you have no shame and you continue to pile it
on because everybody else is working and doing something else here.
You only got a couple of folks in the building
at different points of the day. As long as you're
not here during actual business hours, you can almost do
whatever the hell you want. Speaking of a couple of
(04:27):
folks lost, Yeah, thanks for not putting it up, Frostburg,
for your blood, Thanks for not putting it up. Starling
Marte strikeout on three pitches because you know, I know
that's what he was gonna do up there at the
basis loaded and you wanted to watch that. I haven't
seen it. I haven't seen it, but I guarantee you
his last pitch, he waved at a breaking pitch outside
(04:47):
the strikes, but he at least swung at it. Guarantee you.
I'm waiting. Waved at it, just waved at it. Bat
on his shoulder, just waved at it. Look, here's the
ball waving. I'll tell you, man, that race between the
Padres and the Mets, to see who can dump their
high place players faster, that's gonna be the big story
of July. You gotta get out in front fast. You can't.
(05:08):
You can't wait another couple of weeks it's done. Start
doing it now or the Padres will beat the Mets
to it.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
The best thing I want of it all. He did
strike out swinging, so that that's good.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
I guarantee. Just he waved at a breaking pitch outside them.
But at least it's not a backwards k He went
down swinging. At least he tried. Uh is the with
the Mets. So many of their.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Top notch in theory players have no trade clauses of
some capacity, right, So I'd like to be in the
room with those conversations. Yeah, you know when we got
you to come here because we were building the perfect Beast,
you know, just like the Don Henley album of that
title all those years ago. It's really not working out,
(05:52):
as you can see. I mean, Showalter's starting to lose
his mind. He's getting thrown out every other game. So
can you wave no trade clause? Well, that's it's it's
it's gonna be when Steve Cohen calls you. Look, you're
gonna get all your money. We're gonna trade you. Where
would you like to go? That's what it is. It's
gonna be listening I talk to you about, well, where
you want to go? We're not just gonna dump you
(06:12):
somewhere because you can't do it. Where do you want
to go? Where would you accept a trade to? Okay, great,
that's where we'll do it.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Yeah. No, Well, because I'm gonna pick up all the money.
Don't worry. I'm picking up all the money. We can
get good prospects from their system. I'll pick up all
the cats.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Don't worry about it. Off the books, unlimited sandwich service.
You may need to go to one of these other
less desirable markets.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Mike, what are you doing? They're thirty six and forty five?
Keep it moving in now speaking of new destinations for guys.
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likely going to be traded. The big news today in
the NBAS we're getting set for free agency. He has
opted in to the final year of his contract with
the express consent that the Sixers are going to try
to trade him and move on and get him to
a new organization. So Harden opting in exercising his thirty
(07:21):
five and a half million dollar option. And they started
making calls for Harden on Thursday. And the two teams
that he is linked with right now are the Clippers
Cleveland not Cleveland, well, the Cleveland Clippers, well, the Cleveland
Clippers that was a long time ago. The Clippers and
the Knicks. Let me say this, no no, no, no,
(07:43):
no no no no no, no no no no clip
which team are you speak fine? Nickt No, No, I
want nothing to do with James Hard. I wouldn't even
want James Harden in fantasy because I wouldn't want his
name next to my other players on my team because
he could wind up affecting them and they're not as
good because oh I have my name next to James Hart.
(08:04):
No no, no, no, no, no no no no no no. No. Nobody,
especially the Knicks. No, nobody is a James Harden away
from winning anything. I think we've seen that by now.
How many teams do you need to see James Harden
with his Hey, hey, James Harden is here, boy, we
can win something, and you watch them not win until
(08:24):
you decide, oh, maybe he's not that guy anymore. Maybe
he's not, but somehow you still let teads. And I'm
hoping this is just a fake. Hey, interested Harden's people
are talking something because no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no no, the Knicks are bringing back Josh Hart. He
opted in great. No James arn't. No, no, no, no, no,
(08:46):
no on James, no, because the first thing he's gonna
want is I'm opting. I want a three year deal
for ninety five million dollars. No, no, no, no, no,
James Harden is not the same guy. If this was
James Harden of six seven years ago, Hey, okay, the
James Harden who decid, I'm gonna amp my game up
a little bit and I'm gonna learn how to be
a distributor point guard as well as scoring thirty five
(09:06):
points a game. If that James Harden, Yes, but this
James Harden the last two stops where he's kind of
just been a guy and it was gonna be part
of the Big three in Brooklyn. Nope, that didn't work.
It's gonna be him and m beat in Philadelphia. Nope.
That didn't work. What more evidence do you need. You're
not a James Harden away from anything anything. So no Nicks,
no Clippers, that's fine. No no, no, no, no no.
(09:28):
I'm putting this out there for the Nicks. No no, no,
I keep saying.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
No.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
It's gonna stretch all the way. It's gonna be hands
across America. It's gonna stretch all the way to New York,
all the way, and I drink your milkshake alright, streak
all the way to New York. No no, no, no no.
I'm building a bridge of nose right now. And it's
a big bridge. It's like the Bill, It's that big bridge.
It's biggest bridge. What is the Ambassador But no, no,
the Mackinaw Bridge. Whatever. No, no, no no, building that
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big bridge all the way all the way from here
to New York. No no no. And then I'm gonna
put a guard at the end of the bridge, and
then I'm gonna blow up the bridge so nobody could
travel along the bridge and get him to the Knicks.
That's what I'm doing right now. No no, no, no, no,
I kind of dig that.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
No, there's like a mini movie there right either that
do we get the music video with little James Harden
with the big head in a car.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
I'm a traveling man, made a lot of stops. It
sounds like a t skin over there. Look at hard
driving his big head driving around. Xach is saying stuff
loving and he's gonna stop here, but only for five minutes.
Then he's gonna take off go someplace else for three minutes.
That's what's happening right now.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Oh he's like the gone fishing an extension of that.
Oh yeah, because at this point that's kind of what
James Harden is doing. Yeah, yeah, no, all right, I
played a couple of hands with you guys. Here go fish, Yeah,
send me away.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Look, I like the organized chaos of it all. And
he's still a big name and on any given night,
and that's the big point, on any given night can
still be that guy and lure you back in that
full sense of security.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
But it's not any given night. It's maybe one given
night over a four weeks. But that's why. What about
the rest of the time. But that's the point is
of it. The rest of it. He's dragging his feet
up and down the court because he's tired. It's like
going on a date with somebody having one great night.
(11:19):
We had such a great time. What happened the next month?
That really hasn't worked out? But then oh, in another
great date happened to work out. Really no, no, no,
no no no no.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Man, the energy, the moon, all of those things come together.
Everything's in cycles, and maybe it works for James Harden.
Would I'd love to see him here in Los Angeles?
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Is he areolf? James Harden is a were wolf?
Speaker 3 (11:42):
I see what I did there. I tied it all
together and James a were wolf. I laid it up
and you dunked.
Speaker 6 (11:51):
I wanted to see if my beard comes all the
way out all of a sudden, his teeth get really sharp.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Harden is a werewolf. For a second, I thought it
was gonna slip past, and then the synapses started firing.
You turned on into a werewolf. That would be hey,
way way. That's the idea. What what NBA stars would
be famous monsters of years past? James Harden would be
Team Wolf Frankenstein. And oh, I was going back further.
You're going back? Oh you want to go back to
the classic? You know Wolf is pretty good too, And
(12:18):
I like that that's good. I man, that we still
got you know Frankenstein. We have Dracula, Mummy, the Mommy.
But James Harden is the Wolfman apparently, but that's just it.
And then come to the playoffs, you know where he is.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
He's moving on to another town, to another carnival, trying
to hide in the shadows.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
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Slash match. So on James hard No no no no
(13:02):
no no no no no no no no, yes, yes.
I want to see him with Tibeau. Think about him
working with Thibadeau. How great? No no no no no no.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
I mean here in Los Angeles watching our fellow media
members meltdown is one thing.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Dalen Brunton on The Sixers, it's going to be nice.
No stop, it's not happening Come on, Jalen bruns is
not going anywhere. He's the greatest player in the history
of the NBA. He's gonna go down as a number
one player when it's all said. And I forgot about
top fifty, top seventy five, greatest player. You know, a
great player for Jalen Brunson in may as well hit
me in the face because he's good in the face.
(13:38):
In the face you just worry about saying, Hey, can
we get the eighth best player off of the Nuggets
to come save the Lakers?
Speaker 6 (13:45):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (13:45):
I hope we get Brown. He's like the ninth guy
in the rotation. He's gonna make it for us. Wow,
they got you to click click on that story, sucker.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
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Speaker 1 (14:04):
Ty Shirt.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
What's the name of the band that sings this song?
Oh gosh, this has to be MM. Who's Lenny Skinner?
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Play on?
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Who Lenny Lenny SKINNERD? Yeah? Oh, it's it's his own thing,
Leonard SKINNERD Is it? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (14:20):
I thought it was a band. No no, No, it's
one guy like Lenny and then Travis Skinnerd or something
like that.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
It's Lenny skin Lenny Skinnerd is his name, and he
plays all the instruments in the band.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
Okay, then I'm gonna guess Leny Kravitz is this one?
Speaker 1 (14:31):
It is Lenny Kravitz, is it?
Speaker 5 (14:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, because this they use this in
Hunger games. Yes, yes, right, exactly. Here's my question. No
one ever seemed hungry in the game, though, Well, you
were hungry to survive and then he played Twisted Sisters.
Stay hungry for that. Now there's a restaurant I go
to in Clearwater. I'm showing Jason the Lojo here, and
it's Lenny's and it's well greasy looking, not quite from
(14:56):
the Lenny and Squiggy Clearwater or just Clearwater clear Water Clares,
Clearwater Clares, Clearwater Clares, clear Water. Wow? You like that?
Uh little Clarence Carter reference.
Speaker 6 (15:06):
Did the Mets lose last week? Did the Mets lose
last year? Did the Mets lose every day of the year?
Say it, I'll be losing, dude, d.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
How money strikes? Did mart you know? Let me tell
you this. You want a Bowl prediction that's not really
that is, but is absolutely coming true. He's fired for
striking out to end the game. Of all the pole
predictions I made, I guarantee you this one, uh Starling
Marte will be the next guy whose contract Steve Cohen
eats and trade them away, because when you're talking about
(15:38):
trading Verland Schurzer, it's a bigger thing because these guys
are due the rest of a thirty million dollar contract
this year with thirty five million dollars. That's also because
nobody wants them, right, No, they would want them. Nobody
wants they would want them. There's no market for that.
Now there's a market if he eats all the money
and he doesn't care about the market. For sure, there
is teams to take sures are in a second. If
(15:58):
you don't leave, I'm not paying them. Yeah Verlander, who's
taking Verlander? Verlander's a tougher sell, but sure has lost
a game in them.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Think the Sureser thing, it's more of the size of
that contract. Sure you can get out of that last
year or two of that, then you might feel better out. Yeah,
like Steve Cohen could say, listen, hey, here's Max Schurzer.
You have the rest of this year. Next year he's due.
We're gonna eat the rest of this year and then
twenty million of next year. So you're paying fifteen million
for Okay, great, and then you get a couple of
prospects for him. So that trade is there. But the
(16:27):
Marte trade easy. I mean you watch him tonight.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
I mean seriously, he just waves it pitches he has
Sometimes I walk up and I go, what is he doing?
Does he even have a plan. I'm just gonna wave
whatever pitch is out there. There's video virally making the
rounds of a woman yelling don't swing at everything before
he comes up with a bit tonight, and he swung
the truck out a three pitches. At least he tried.
He is the next guy stood there with the bat
(16:51):
on his shoulder. He is the next guy getting traded
because the Mets can figure out his position. The market
for starting Mark sure there is if again, Steve Cohen says,
I will pick up them. Someone's gonna wat who's doing that.
Someone's gonna want Marte. Hey, look, the Mets got got
the Angels to take Escobar, and they got the prospects
nineteen and twenty. Yeah, I think they can trade Starling Marte.
(17:12):
He's better than the water of Escobar. He's just he's
just cooked barely. He's just cooked barely. He's absolutely cooked.
He's got he's got twenty one stolen bases. The guy
that's it, that's all the guys, right, he has a
last name, and the other Marte and Escobar did even less,
and the Mets still got something telling you he's gonna
eat the money and get prospects. Angels.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
On Saturday they beat the hell out of the Rockies
and then brought in Mike Mustakis. I didn't know the
moose was still playing loose was loose.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Everybody the Mets have is gonna be legitimately. He's a guy.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
He's hitt ju seventy two four home runs, eighteen RBI.
But he got he got acquired. So if the price
is right, he's gonna find.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
You, guys. Give the Angels everybody that way, Tom for sure.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Also to see if we do go fully into this mode,
it's gotta be like a reality series, like a series
of if you call us now, let's negotiate on air.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Hard knocks Base.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Yeah, let's make it a whole other way, here's what
you need to do. You wear a crazy costume. Wayne
Brady shows up and we get active Brady.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
We have to get the Padres in on this too,
because the Padres actually players. They have better players who
are younger that you could get a better return. It's
better who's better on that team? Oh well, to tease,
is better, yes, you than anybody the Mets have that
they're gonna trade. Sure, and his numbers don't show it
to tea. Yeah, but he's still twenty three years old.
You know he's still somebody that are way behind him.
(18:42):
You have Sodo, You have a bunch of guys that
you're paid. You got Machado, You set a bunch of
guys you're paying. Telling you man, Mets and Padres. The
Mets and Padres are gonna fist fight for who can
I know we need to trade our high priced guys first.
It'll be like the Anchorman fight when the Mets are
just suddenly gets rounded and the Padres are all riding
their bicycles. So I've fred and they're all three touching
(19:05):
of their face. That's what it's gonna look like, that
they're riding around on ten speeds. It's gonna have the
white pants like Vince Vaughan. Hey, guys doing there. That's
what it's gonna be. Mets and the Padres who can
trade there? This trade deadline is gonna be fun.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
I mean there's not very many sellers the Mets and
the Padres.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Yeah, yeah, there, you're big sellers there. You're a big
sellers because they couldn't figure out the new major League
Baseball and they just said we're gonna throw a bunch
of guys out there and try to win. And you see,
sometimes that doesn't work. That stupid as strategy doesn't work.
Have there ever been more underachieving teams the first half
of the season than the Mets and Padres? Ever, Oh,
with the money they're paying right, Not with this kind
of money? Are you kidding it? His history, There's been
(19:48):
other teams where you could say, boy, they're really disappointing,
but not the teams that went all in and spent
all kinds of money on this. Even the Rangers went
and spent money and they got it. The Rangers never
get anything like the Grom's not even playing one of
the guys you paid a lot of money to and
all of this every time I see the Rangers. Ranger
fans all say the same thing to me, and all
this without de Gram, Yes, I know, all this without
(20:10):
He's never gonna bitch again.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
For the non Rangers among us, not happening, or people
who invested in de Gram rookie cards, or Mets fans
that are like, well, at least we get we don't
have any of those guys from the rotation of years
ago still hanging out here.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
They might not have known de Grom was there. No, no, no,
the people are gonna go is he still playing? He's
gonna be out through all of next year? The Mets
wish they still had him, No, they don't. Why so
we cannot be pitching be at least, dude, think about this.
Of all the horrible mistakes the Mets made, all the
horrible stakes, this surezer virlin all these guys, they could
(20:45):
also have been on the hook for de Gram. Yeah,
Carlos Korea, but hey, hey, his day is coming up.
His day is coming up. I sent you guys to
wink with the hat. We're gonna I think about some
of those guys like, oh boy, we got lucky, We
got lucky on that one. I'm lucky on that one too,
all right, Nott's need to pay us to wear those houses.
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Of all those mistakes, it could have been worse. Well,
(21:29):
but that's thing. You make a lot of moods. You're
bound to. Yeah, make a couple of mistakes, yeah, or
all mistakes are all of them? That means you're due.
Isn't that what people always yell?
Speaker 5 (21:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah they're not.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
I mean Vargas is in the lineup again for the Dodgers.
He's won for his last thirty four. That would make
him easy due, right.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Like when Krusty bet on the on the job Washington Generals,
then they were due.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
He's probably due more for getting sent down to the
minor leagues.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
But that's a whole other conversation. For another time. But
let me tell you something. Yeah, and Frostburg's gonna hate this.
You know who is getting set to do something really
big and is being really smart right now. Two things
you would never say about this team. Two things you'd
never say. They're gonna do something really big and they're
being really smart right now. The Lakers watch out. Everything
(22:22):
around them is surrounding players who want to go there
because the Lakers have become a destination after getting to
the Western Conference finals. Yes, you get swept by the Nuggets,
but the Nuggets won the NBA title. Yeah, okay, a
little bit of a little bit of seasoning for the
Lakers and a couple of additions, and yeah, maybe the
Lakers get over the top. You have a Lebron James
(22:43):
who bought back in a d You're gonna bring back
Hot Chamora. You're gonna you're gonna bring back Austin Rees'.
You're gonna do all of these things. But everything you
see every day are all players who are linked to
the Lakers. Today, the big story was Bruce Brown, right
could leave the Nuggets, You would really hurt the defending champions.
Bring somebody who if he hits threes like he did
(23:04):
during the season. He could be a really big threat.
Right every day you see guys Aaron Gordon's another one. Hey,
maybe he just takes less money and comes across the
hall to the Lakers. The Lakers have become a destination again.
And what they've done by extending their qualifying offers to
Hatchamora and Reeves is they've given themselves flexibility. They are
keeping their options open and they can do anything they
(23:25):
want to. They can make a run of Chris Middleton
if they want to go get a guy. Hey, you know,
we can do something and package a couple of players
and go. We can dangle D'Angelo Russell to trade talk.
Suddenly the Lakers have assets, They have players that have
value to them and players around the league. I'm telling
you the Lakers being this destination, they're getting set to
do something really really big. Could be a shocker, sign
(23:47):
and trade with some of the guys you're not thinking about. Well,
we have to be able to move Russell. We had
to move him. We had to pair him up with
Austin Reeves. But this allows us to go get whatever
it winds up being. They're going to go for it
a large way because they have to. They have seen that. Now. Hey,
this past year was a surprise. It was found money
for them. Hey, getting into the playoffs, winning that first round,
(24:10):
winning the second round over Golden State. Now the Lakers know,
we can't waste any more time, We can't waste any
more of Lebron, we can't waste more of Ad. It
wasn't supposed to work, but it did. So the pressure
of them to go out there to do something is
going to be immense, and they will do it because
right now everything meets. You can want to do something
till you're blue in the face, but if you don't
(24:31):
have the assets to make a trade work, you're not
people that want to come play for you. You're not gonna
get anybody. The Knicks have tried that for years and
now finally they're getting players who want to go to
the Knicks. The same thing is the other way. Hey,
you could you could want to be able to you could. Hey,
you could have guys coming in to do whatever you want.
But you don't have money, you don't have assets, You
can't bring in the guys you want. But that is
a big confluence for the Lakers right now is they
(24:52):
have become a destination. They don't have a lot of salary,
they are married to, and they have players who want
to come there, and players they can go and make
moves for him, bring them in. Everything is aligning for them.
They're gonna do something big. They're being really smart right now.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Well, I mean, they did the only thing they could
do with Reeves and Hatchamura. You can't pay them what
the fair market value will be, so we put our
qualified all right, when you go sign somewhere else for
a lot of money, because you know, according to some reports,
you know, Austin Reeves is a seventy million dollar guy
in today's Oh.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Don't sell him short. Don't solve them short. Maybe more
than that, maybe it could be one hundred million dollar guys.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Anyway, the point being that, you know, when you can
only give him a qualify and fining offer of two
point two and he probably gonna be it. But you
know what, you're getting a draft pick back, not a
good one. But you could say here getting assets back.
But it's it's the conversation about the Lakers, and you say, hey,
they're realizing, well they should have known that that fuse
(25:47):
was burning. Like you know, when we watch our old cartoons,
a lot of them, which you know, they don't get
to er quite in the same way they used to.
Of u Oh, time's running out right. Just take Itchy
and Scratchy. Let's use fox property. As you go there,
what happens bad things. And that's where we're at with
with Lebron and Anthony Davis. You know that fuses is
(26:08):
about to enter the house. When's the cablamo and when
do you have you know, the skeleton cat looking at you.
That's really where we're at and all of this and
last season, you know, everybody got all excited. Oh wow,
look at what they did, and it's just crazy. What
a cinderellis. No, you had Lebron James and Anthony Davis.
(26:29):
You were expected to be good. And guess what, you
didn't wave a giant white flag when it came to
the trade deadline. You got rid of Russell Westbrook and
you made a run for it, and the seas parted
biblically to give you an opportunity for a big run. Okay,
that's great, but it's not like the necessarily the building
(26:50):
block because those guys are a year older, they were healthy.
There was this entire run and now we're gonna double
down saying yes, they're gonna run rough shot again through
the playoffs. I don't know that I take that bet right,
if we're gonna do that thing year after year of well,
you only have one year of data to say this
guy can do it, right, I get challenged him right
Fantasy football, right now, but Caafrey should be number one.
(27:11):
It's like, well, I don't know he's hurt all these
other years. He's only done it one year. Is he
the best running back or is he not? But we
can't then go the other side and say, well, Anthony
Davis and Lebron James, look what they did this last run.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Really yeah, but if you did it one a, if
you're bringing another talent to lessen the load on them,
and hey, we'll be ready for them, cause look, they
could take time, they could take the first two and
a half months of the season off. Thing is they
don't really gar anymore. I think we could do that again.
Lebron did all his minutes only because he was trying
to get to the scoring record. That's on him.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
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Speaker 1 (27:50):
He is a Hall of Very Good voter and will
remain a Hall of Very Good voter at least until
the end of this interview. He is on Twitter at
Jason Cole six two. That is at Jason Cole sixty two.
It is Jason Call. What's happening, buddy.
Speaker 5 (28:05):
Everyone in Canton is nervous right now because this thing starts.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Well, are you actually gonna do?
Speaker 5 (28:11):
Are you?
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Are you ramping up and doing this from a sports
book somewhere with a bunch of NFL players.
Speaker 5 (28:19):
Yeah. As a matter of fact, Aaron Rodgers, never mind stop.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
I told you signing with the Jets is gambling enough,
all right, that's enough for that.
Speaker 5 (28:30):
It pretty much is sort of like rooting for the Mets, right.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Oh you know, no, that's not a gamble. You know
what you sign up for when.
Speaker 5 (28:35):
You do it, the Jets in the Mets with a combination.
There you go, three swings and you're down Starling marked
r Wow, look.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
At that just came right over the top. He actually
made contact with his bat. Now I have to make sure.
Speaker 5 (28:56):
What you now have to do is you have to
go to ohiowakee conference all by yourself, just to get
something to get you through the rest of the Mets season.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
I kind of feel like, the next time he does
a speech, we should go listen.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
I always feel the same, just to be in the
audience to see I.
Speaker 5 (29:12):
Always should feel the same way. Oh dude, it's a
downer to be a Bets fan. Man.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
No, no, But here's the thing. I always have to
remember what's important, and that is the Jets have Aaron
Rodgers's That's what's important. I'm gonna forget about.
Speaker 5 (29:26):
That, us on that because I'm sure the Jets season
will come up back, especially once.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
They start with hard knocks.
Speaker 5 (29:35):
Come on, let's yeah, the NFL forcing you to do
hard knocks because I'm sure Aaron Rodgers will be totally
into this.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Of course, it's cameras in front of him. This is
what he wants. It's why he picked the Jets. He
wants it. It's gonna be fine.
Speaker 5 (29:51):
Oh yeah, it's all gonna be great. As Robert Salad goes, okay, Aeron,
are you okay?
Speaker 1 (29:59):
All right?
Speaker 5 (29:59):
Go Goco get out of here. Please please get the
cameras off of him. Get the cameras off Rogers.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
I will say this, Jacole, one of the best things
for this upcoming football season is in our new studios here,
we have a camera that is fixed on us the
entire time. So on Monday and Thursday nights when they
play in primetime, you're gonna get to watch the melttown
live and in living color.
Speaker 5 (30:24):
Oh, it's gonna be like Jimmy the Greek that time
that he lost all that money on a Sunday and
he was just like switch wedding. Oh, there were many
of them. Those are the great when the Greek was
losing at a half time in a bunch of games
and he was just disconfle it because like he had
just gotten off off the line with his bookie, but
(30:45):
like doubling up on all the afternoon game.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Nun chilled? Absolutely, wait doesn't Why are you play at midnight?
Speaker 5 (30:51):
No?
Speaker 1 (30:51):
That was last night? Du loo can I do?
Speaker 5 (30:53):
Oh? Come on, come on, I need action.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Listen, it's all gonna work. We're going to the super Bowl.
It's absolutely all.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
You guys can laugh and it's you're talking about your
show is going to the super Bowl. Like your show,
You and Harriman are going to the super Bowl. That's
what you mean.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
We are taking over Vegas? Of course we are all going.
Speaker 5 (31:17):
Going, Yeah, you guys might be staying in Barstow, but
what the hell you're going to Vegas.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. Hey, listen, at this point.
Speaker 5 (31:26):
The Jet season is going to Barstow, the NFL, the NFL.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
May change the Super Bowl. If more players keep getting
busted for gambling. We can't go back to Vegas. Now,
look at all, this what a horrible headline.
Speaker 5 (31:38):
It's a bad look. It's a really bad look for
the league that this is happening, like they just have
they have no idea how to control this, and it's
all out in the open now. So they can't ignore
it because there is there's a real issue here with
the integrity of the game. So they can't cover it
up at all. It's going to become way too obvious.
(32:00):
And so all the unseen gambling that they ignored for
decades and decades and decades now actually matters.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
Well, the hardest part, Jake, with the reports, it's, look,
we know the guys are going to bet, like look,
human nature, vice, whatever, But the fact that we keep
getting me oh yeah, they did it in the facility
line of really you weren't smart enough to at least
not do that. Like that's the thing that baffles me,
(32:28):
Like that they get bet, you know, make a bet
and make a bunk.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
I get it.
Speaker 5 (32:33):
Don't everybody in the world just come to work and
just call their booky all the time, or you know,
make their bets online and stuff like that. Is you know, like, oh, coach, hey,
wait a second, between between practices or between meetings, can I,
you know, can I get on my computer a little bit?
Oh you know, hey, just a second here, I've got
to get online with my phone so I can place
(32:53):
a little action on this game. But the line just
moved by a point.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
Why was earlier Jason that they need to take the
the old signs for the smoking section and now just
putting this is where you can bet and you're cordened off.
Speaker 5 (33:07):
They I don't know what they're going to do. I
know that Rogers, but he's sitting here going, I don't
know how to handle this. He doesn't really have a
great answer other than to, you know, keep suspending guys
right and hope that hope that guys get the message. However,
and nobody ever really truly learns you know, because they
don't pay attention, especially the guys who got suspended today,
(33:30):
Like there's not a really big star out there. So
I mean the closest thing that they've had to a
real big star players obviously Calvin Ridley, and that's already
sort of been forgotten in a lot of ways. Right,
So the only way they're really ever going to scare
all the players is like some big time players probably
going to have to take a hit for this, and
(33:52):
that'll teach guys, you know, for five, six, seven years,
and then they'll all forget about it again. But yeah,
I mean, the cat's out of the bag here. Guys
are gambling, just like everybody in public who's gambling, and
the NFL has no real answer other than they're scared
out of their minds one thousand percent. They're scared out
(34:12):
of their minds about finding out that somebody has either
inside information or is betting on one of their own teams.
Like that is the thing that scares the NFL more
than any single thing.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Well, and here's a part of that is that something
that could have already happened and we just don't know
about it because the NFL, we know the NFL does
great stuff covering stuff up, like I wouldn't be surprised
if in a few years we find and oh, yeah,
yeah that happened, because you know, if the NFL doesn't
want something to get out, it doesn't get out.
Speaker 5 (34:42):
Well yeah, I mean, and that's I mean, you kind
of asked an impossible question. I think I would hope.
I would hope that the players would have enough common
sense not to bet on their own team. I would
hope that they would not, you know, I would hope
that the league's connection to the gambling business would tell them, Hey, look,
(35:10):
we got to make sure that this doesn't happen. So
you know, we'll look the other way on all this
other stuff, but you've got to help us out, you know,
gambling world, if we're going to do business with you,
you have to make sure that we know if this
gets out there, and it's like I was talking with
another show. You know, you know that guys like Billy
Walters are out there waiting to find find out information. Sure,
(35:34):
so they're you know, they're paying anybody and everybody as
much as they possibly can to get inside information. And
if it happens to start among the players, that's are real.
That's such an enormous problem.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
Is Jason Cole with us here The Jason Smith Show
with Me Mike Harmon, Live from the ti rac dot com,
Fox Sports Radio Studios. Author of eight books, Go pick
up one of many for your pool side reading at
Amazon dot Your kid is.
Speaker 5 (36:01):
Not that great. Shut up, your kid's not that great.
Pick it up. That's the new one baby.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Yeah, it's a good reason.
Speaker 5 (36:08):
I'm sending him to Baby Gronk's dad.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
Well, Real Gronk told him to beat it. He was
contacted more than five hundred times, so before this even
became a thing, Ja Cole, Gronk had already told his brothers.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, tell her.
Speaker 5 (36:22):
I've already told you.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
To go away. Dad is Frostburg to do an interview.
Speaker 5 (36:29):
I'm I'm surprised you guys haven't had Baby Gronk on already.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
No. No, it's to show.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
Of integrity and that I mean I would not I
would not take the sanctity of.
Speaker 5 (36:40):
Microphone, this show, this show, and the word integrity. Serious.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Wait talk, Hey dude, this interview we're doing right now
is borderline. We're not going to do another one like it.
Speaker 5 (36:49):
Well, that's my whole point like, you know you got
meet me on how many times? And you're worried about integrity.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Hey, you're a haul of very good voter. You are
you over You got none of those cowboys out that
we were looking for.
Speaker 5 (37:02):
It's hall of fame, Hall of fame. You've overall fame.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
Not the way you've been voting. It's not okay. You've
also overthrown two people running the Hall of Fame, and
now you're looking at the third.
Speaker 5 (37:14):
Yeah, Baker down Porter, Porter's next.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
All right, speaking you guys, getting over run Steve Barry.
Speaker 5 (37:20):
I ran Steve Berry off the road. Pal on that
on that highway from Cleveland to can gone, baby, well
he should have.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
Been going very nice, Mike, very thank you, thank you
very much.
Speaker 5 (37:31):
Yeah, very well played.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
Who's Who's Lloyd Howelling?
Speaker 3 (37:35):
And will Roger Goodell defeat him as frequently as he
did to Mort Smith as executive director the NFL.
Speaker 5 (37:43):
I'll tell you this, plenty of players want to know
the answer to that question.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
Who's It's like a drop play on the show.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
Who is it?
Speaker 5 (37:53):
Who heard of him? Who down running our union? That's right,
that's what the That's what a lot of guys are
saying right now, like I think he's in. The man
has an incredibly impressive resume, and he's obviously an incredibly
bright man in NBA from Harvard thirty four years, very
(38:13):
high level corporate guy. He has not one minute of
experience with the NFL, not one minute. Nobody in the
league knows who this guy is. And I don't. I
hesitate to criticize this move because the criticism comes off
(38:36):
as a rip at Lloyd Howe, and it's not because
again we're talking about a very accomplished man. But the
players don't understand what their business is. Their business is
about football, and this is the thing that they miss
all the time. Since nineteen forty one, there have been
(38:57):
five NFL commissioners, right, five in eighty plus years. Right,
every single one of those Mets who worked as the
commissioner of the NFL worked in football as a coach
or an owner. You know, Burt Bell was a coach
and an owner, or as a GM or PR guy
(39:19):
like Pete Roselle, was a league attorney, or spent their
entire career like Roger Goodell. Okay, in the league office.
Those guys understand the football business and the players. For
the last fifteen years, and now for however long Lloyd
(39:40):
Howell is you know, in this position have been led
by guys who are complete outsiders, who don't understand the business,
who don't even know what the priority among players is
when it comes to things as simple as safety, like
because they didn't play. So I just all look at
(40:00):
this and say, guys, you need to hire. And you
don't necessarily have to hire a player. I get that,
but you have to know, hire somebody who knows your business,
who knows what to do, who understands the value, who
knows who the media people are in your business, who
you know has institutional Now. I mean, I just go
(40:20):
on and on. I know fans don't care, but the
players are just they just don't get it, and they're
going to get I was talking with another writer last
night and we were just talking about how all the
rhetorics at the NFL put out in twenty eleven about
how much they weren't making enough money in this and matter.
It's like they're going to track the same rhetoric in
(40:42):
twenty thirty in advance of that negotiation, and they're just
going to take those guys for a ride again. They're
going to take like five or six points from those guys,
then it's going to be another bloodbaths economically for the players.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
You can follow on Twitter at Jason Cole sixty two.
That is, at Jason Cole sixty two. Jake Cole as
always buddy, appreciated, my friend. We will talk to you
next week. Enjoy it.
Speaker 5 (41:06):
So it is.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
Enjoy your holiday, buddy,
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