July 3, 2023 • 43 mins
Jason Smith and Mike Harmon are in for Dan and the Danettes. We try and get James Harden to the New York Knicks. Plus, longtime NBA Insider Ric Bucher swings by for all the latest on Damian Lillard and free agency.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to The Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Hello, Welcome inside Final Hour today the Dan Patrick Show
here on Fox Sports Radio. Jason Smith, Mike Harmon in
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dot com slash EQE. Well so far, Mike, so far,
so good. I've not hit any kind of Twitter limit.
I'm able to see exactly when, because if Damian Lillard
or James Harden wind up with new teams, I want
to be able to not hit my limit. Why be
able to know this right away? So far it's been
(00:48):
going okay. But every time I hit scroll, I wonder
if something's gonna happen. I get so nervous.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Mike, Well, the bigger, bigger thing I mean beyond these
sports stories is I mean, I need to know what
the secret songs and how people reacted to them on
the Taylor Swift tour. I mean, it just doesn't work
without that.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
For me, well, yeah, cause you get a bunch of
tweets on that and then then you're done. You can't
figure it out.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Yeah, but I now have to figure out what outfit
to wear for for the Eras tour when it hits
Los Angeles. So you know that works. And then we
play the long game. Uh, you know we the waiting
game is a terrible thing. Of course, when we want
our NBA news now, especially with a number of guys,
we photoshop into different uniforms and and for you, I
(01:33):
think you've now tried to will everybody to the Knicks.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
You can't have the.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Vorte like that, that force and energy you going. It's
everybody else is gonna get sucked up into that nowmes Harden, Wait.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
A minute, No, no, no, you got you gotta say.
I've tried to will everybody there except James Harden.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
No, the problem is that much energy. He's just gonna
get pulled in by the beard. No matter what you do.
It's no science.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
No, no, it's not the science. What do you got, Frostburg.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
I was gonna say, you got to leave all that
all that Twitter stuff, stay off at Twitter so that
you can have as much room as you need for
when James Harden does land on the.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Next that's what I believe you.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
You and Frank your buddy there can can start putting
up all sorts of tweets of how it's now going
to ruin the franchise.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
We're on the comeback. We were ready. How do I
how do I delete apps? There we go, delete, delete, delete, James.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Like you, a couple of big efforts from the Mets
to start July, and you're gonna start yelling their back
possible room known to man for when James Harden does
go there, Man, it did stop.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
That's not happening. They're not getting James Harden gloriously. No
no no no no no no no no no no
no no no no no no. I keep saying no
no no no no no no no no no no
no no no no no no James.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
No no, James, Which Bells and Pizza Place are your
favorites here.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
In New York, James, James, come to the Clippers where
we can, because I really want to see how Cardon
and Paul George and Kawhi Lennard. I want to see
how they all co exist. I want to see that.
I mean that come on that that's where everybody wins.
Noill got Well, the Knicks are worried about winning, Now
come on, man, I mean the Clippers want to put
on a show. The Knicks are worried about winning. Let
them worry about winning.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
But see, that's the hard part of this for me
with those two teams in the mix. And I'm speaking
harden to the Knickson instat but just for the sake
of this argument, him going to the Knicks is a
win for us for our show normally seven to eleven
PM across the great Fox Sports Radio Network, the iHeartRadio app.
(03:44):
You take us with you wherever you're going on this
holiday holiday holiday weekend. It would be delicious theater for me,
especially once the Jets start melting down and you're trying
to look forward to Knick season and then James Arns
wave it at you. That would be great for us,
great theater for the US living and working out of
(04:05):
Los Angeles. Yes, that Clippers scenario that you put together.
All right, which two are playing tonight? Do they drawn lots?
I mean, are they playing uh rock paper scissors in
the locker room? All right, who's up tonight?
Speaker 2 (04:21):
We have enough content we have enough You and I
have enough content James Harden. We can, we can. We
gonna have fun with James Harden. Doesn't need to be
with the Knicks, doesn't need to be with it.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Oh no, no no, but that personal angs, the the highs,
the lows, the ride the lightning, ride that roller coaster,
all of those things. I mean, that's what we do
better than anyone.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
So it'll ride the lightning and roller coasters in in
in l A with with Harden. We'll do it there.
We're not gonna I'm not gonna do it in New York.
I'm not, and I don't. I don't know why anybody
thinks they should go get James Harden. Nobody is James
Harden away from winning a championships, even stopped even stop
at Frostburg. Even in his heyday, there were still I
can Harden lead you because what would always happen when
(05:02):
Harden was the was the one Oh he was.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Tripping over his tongue because he played many a weirly minute.
He would try to.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Get you great, and then when it would get to
the end of a big playoff game, Harden would get
tired and the team would lose.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Well, maybe your team would be good enough that he
wouldn't have to carry such a heavy load of defensively.
So then maybe in the playoffs he's there for you.
How about that?
Speaker 2 (05:24):
No, so now Harden's not a one. So he goes
to the nets where all, we got a big three.
We're gonna win, We're gonna win championships. And I told
you they wouldn't make it fifty games, and they didn't,
and then it was, oh, maybe we got to get
rid of James Harden. Harden goes to the Sixers. Hey,
it doesn't need to be the really be the one.
He was one of the big three there. Now he
just needs to be the one a to Joel em
beat it. We're gonna win. And again, the Sixers can't
(05:47):
get out of the second round of the playoffs. And
James Harden had a couple of big games, but that's
who he is. One out of every four games, James Harden, Hey,
that's a big game. But you know what, there's other
guys that have one out of every four. And Manuel
quickly has one big game out of every four. He
comes off the bench at place twenty five minutes for
the Knicks. James Harden is not who he was, and
teams don't look at the back of his basketball card.
(06:10):
Go on Basketball reference dot com and go point be
great to get James Harden, man, look at it, look
at look at what he's done over the course. Great. No,
you're getting a guy who is kind of just a guy.
And I get that he shot pretty well from deep
last year, but he still he scored twenty one a game.
Twenty one a game, and there's lots of guys that
can do that. And you want James Harden to be
dynamic and affecting the and affecting the team every time
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he goes down the floor, and he's not that player.
I mean, how much more evidence do you need to
see that? Yeah, winning with if you're trying to win
a championship, there's better options out there than James Harden.
I'm just going by the facts and what I've seen
for the past ten plus years.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
I'm just telling you, buddy that in the right circumstance
the Knicks, perhaps it's time that he breaks through.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
It's not no now, just.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Kidding, Like, you also have to facilitate a deal in
the Sixers aren't gonna give him.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Away, and we're not gone, Oh, Frostburg, you really want
me to key your car? You really want me to
kill I'm just gonna key your car and just write
Brunson on the side of it.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Just well, because we keep talking, and obviously it's a
human business like all of this, everything we talk about. Remember,
at the at the core of it is people that
have to feel like they're wanted, respected, loved, like everybody
does in their homes, in their relationships, and in their
own workplaces. NBA players are no different. And Joel embiid,
(07:33):
if you give Harden away and just send him off,
he's looking around, going, wait, what's going on here? I
trusted the process, I was the process. Maybe he starts
yelling I am the process. I don't know, but he's
gonna look around saying, all right, what do I got you?
You're not going to trade Tobias Harris and and but
Harden's gone. We we didn't really work out the whole
(07:57):
Simmons thing, all of this, and do I I want
to be here anymore? So, I mean part of it
is trying to keep him happy in the process.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Well, if you want to get mbid to the Knicks
that I'm down for, I mean, if you want.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
That to happen. No, no, no, no, you get hard.
You don't get embid.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
No no no. I'd rather have embid, though I'd.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Rather be I'd anybody given with with cognitive reasoning skills
above the level of a six month Here.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
You go, take Julius Randall and R. J. Barrett. That
that that'll make the money work for Joelle Embiid will
be absolutely fine. It'll beware. Now, if you change James
Harden to Damian Lillard, that's different, right, And and that's
why Lillard has this this aura about him, because he's
the one guy in free agency so far that will
sign with a new team and take them from contender
(08:46):
to favorite. Nobody else has done that. And that's that's
what people are forgetting about free agency so far, is
that we've seen a lot of big deals, sign a
lot of big names, but has any signing happened that
makes you go wow, that right there that makes them different?
Then they way different than they were, and that makes
them an absolute title favorite. They can dethrone the Nuggets,
that's how good they are. We haven't had that yet
(09:08):
because team no one has changed.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Teams Brown away from the Nuggets.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Yes, that's what it is. It's it's Bruce Brown for
as much money as the Nicks gave Jalen Brunson. So, hey,
raise my hand. Is Brunson still overpaid? I'm just asking
for a friend. Is he still overpaid at twenty five million?
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (09:23):
No, he's But you don't go back.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Just take that for a second. Remember we we talked
about that and left. It's like, what what's the market
price of a good point guard?
Speaker 2 (09:34):
All right?
Speaker 3 (09:35):
I mean look at some of the contracts that got
doled out this year and then all of a sudden,
Jalen Brunson looks like he was a bargain baseman steel
and he was.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Already a good player.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Yes, when was when Mark Cuban never got another shot
because the stack was the deck was stacked against him.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
But this is, this is the time now for for
Lillard be call He's a guy that can flip it.
And now Chris Haynes of Yahoo is reporting the teams
that have reached out to the Blazers for Lillard are
the Celtics and the Pelicans, and the Clippers and the
Tea Wolves.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Those in Brooklyn, yes, Brooklyn in Miami.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
And so and Miami being his preferred destination. So now
this is but this is the key, and this is
what no one's talking about when it comes to Lillard. Yes,
he can flip and turn a team. He can turn
the Heat into an absolute title favorite the least. Absolutely,
are the Blazers really going to train him there? I mean,
just think about it just for a second. I know
that Lillard has meant a lot to the Blazers organization.
(10:40):
But he finally comes out and says he wants to trade.
And thankfully Lillard did it after years, after every year
of you know, Lillard might not be happy and behind
closed doors he may want out. Oh no, he stays.
I'm so glad he finally stepped up and said, hey,
I want out because I was done with this merry
go round every single offseason with Damian Lillard was oh ma,
he wants out, but always stays so it might not
(11:02):
be that bad. Always stays, might one out again, Oh
but he stays again, it might not be that bad. No,
I'm glad he finally said I went out. And you
know he's upset about it because he's talking. He's going
back at trolls on Twitter who were saying you've ruined everything,
You've ruined the team yet, you know what, So I
know he didn't want to do it, but I'm glad
he did. I'm glad he finally stepped up and said
I won out And now he's gonna get traded. But really,
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where are the Blazers gonna trade him? Of those four teams?
Are they gonna trade him with the Celtics or the
Heat or are they gonna trade him the Timberwolves of
the Pelicans. They're gonna trade the t Wolves or the
Pelicans because number one, they're gonna want a good young
player at least to be the centerpiece of a deal. Like,
they're not gonna take the Celtics off of Well, we
got brogged in, we got some first round picks, none
at all. No, we're not just taking a bunch of trash.
(11:43):
Not a fantasy trade where I'm a weak owner in
a fantasy league and you could just get my star
player for a bunch of stuff. No, they're gonna want
to trade him where they can get a really good
young player back in short of the Celtics including Jalen Brown,
which is probably not gonna happen for a couple of reasons.
He's got the extension coming up, he's gotta sign. And plus,
they're not gonna do them a favor. They're not gonna say, oh,
you want to go to the Heat, Yes, whatever we can,
(12:05):
we will hand deliver you to the Miami Heat. We're
gonna put you on a on a private plane with
Jimmy Butler and pat Riley and you can do the
deal there. It's gonna be a no. They're gonna send
him some place where it's okay, you want out. You
don't want to be part of what we have going
on here. You wait it for us to sign Jeremy
Grant for one hundred and sixty million dollars. Then you
told us you want out. Okay, guess what. You're going
to Minnesota or you're going to Detroit. Good luck you
(12:26):
and Kate Cunningham. Make it work with the Pistons. That's
what nobody's talking about, because that's more likely where Damie
Little's gonna get dumped. It's great to have all these fantasies,
but all these big teams, but are one of these
big teams really gonna part with what they need? They
need the big players if they're gonna be contenders. They
can't part with what they want. The Blazer are gonna
take that offer. That's really good young player they can
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that they compare with Scoot Henderson, and they're gonna go
forward there. That's the trade that's gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Well, I would say this just really quick, is you
know you're trying to facilitate things. Been rumors and Haynes
talking about this going into the week that you might
need a third team. There were other reports saying, hey,
maybe when it's all done, we've got a four way,
four way trade that has to go down to make
(13:11):
the money and players and get everybody satisfied. I would
say this, when it comes to the Pelicans and te Wolves,
you're gonna trade Dame Lillard to the team one of
the teams that you're gonna end up fighting to crawl
through the Western Conference. That would be my only reticence
to think that those are the destinations. And he's a
guy that gave you eleven years. While you want to
(13:33):
do the best for yourself, and that's the hour we're talking,
I'm sure you also kind of want to do right
by your guy too, because you need that reputational thing
going on in your organization that you treat players right,
otherwise you truly become Siberia.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Enjoy the Pistons. Enjoy that.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Hey man, I like their roster.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
What do you do by my pistons gear? Now?
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Oh, vacation, But that's why you vacation.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
I know they'll love me in Detroit. Now, I say, all,
We're gonna go.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Get you vacation. Detroit need white Castle. No one loves
you up there.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Yeah, no white Castles, but I really yeah no, no,
no Muscrab Dinners. Second, white Castle.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Don't get a Tony Island. What is wrong with you?
Speaker 2 (14:15):
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(14:35):
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we've seen a lot in free agency so far, and
we have a lot that we're going to see. Joining
us now in the hotline. Nobody better to break it down.
Fox Sports one analyst check out us on the Ball podcast.
In fact, his most recent On the Ball podcast it
is an hour and a half on how the Knicks,
after signing Dante DiVincenzo, are now going to win the
(16:33):
NBA Championship. Rick Buker, please explain in detail with that
for me? Please?
Speaker 5 (16:38):
Did you say the nc double A because I would
go I would go with the former having proved that
with that, that that trio of Jalen Brunson, Josh Hart
and Dante DiVincenzo.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
But they'll win the Big East this year, the Big Three, the.
Speaker 5 (16:57):
Other one, bless you. And unless you're adding James part
and it's just not gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Yeah, stop my guy, Rich Stuker, e Buker, let's go
stop putting that in the universe. Okay, stop putting James
hard to the mix out in the universe.
Speaker 5 (17:12):
Come on, come on, nicked fans are they're they're riding
a little too high. We we have to add a
little pain and torture to uh and and adding James
would certainly do that all that of God, it's just
it's it's you know, the the what creates a tornado
is cold air and hot air meeting, right, and that
(17:36):
would actually be what you would have with all that
good vibes from Dante and Jalen and Josh and that
great chemistry. And then here comes James come in the
other direction. You'd hurricane whatever it would be, it would
be a it would be some sort of natural disaster
and I'm here for it.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Oh, I got to send you a bottle of your favorite.
Now that's the thanks.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Rick He's alist now, Ricky high pressure fronts, high pressure fronts.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
Sure, yeah, I do what I can, all right.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
So sir, with James Harden, how how does this end
up like we've heard reports that it may take all
summer what happens with him.
Speaker 5 (18:18):
Look, generally, invariably, players get what they want. So if
he's looking to go to the LA Clippers, and the
LA Clippers are looking to much like the Golden State Warriors,
those are the two teams that had the highest payrolls
in the league last year. We have a new collective
bargaining agreement coming in that's going to be incredibly punitive,
(18:41):
not just financially, but just in terms of being able
to build your team. Uh, it limits all of your
exemptions and and and ability to sign players. I would
not be surprised, and I probably if I was. If
I was betting, I would, I would bet that he
whined up with the Clippers. You know, it's going to
be a matter of what is going the other direction.
(19:06):
But that's another team that to talk itself into trying
it out for a year with Harden, then seeing where
it goes and he wents to go back. You know
what troubles me is he wants to go back there
because that's where he's from, and there or or Houston
(19:28):
until Houston kind of said no, thank you, And that
can That always concerns me when a player is more
interested in lifestyle than what the capability is that of
that team in playing for a championship and how he
fits in it. So I don't put Damian Lillard going
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to Miami in that category of the people have a
great impression of Miami being the place, you know, the
South Beach and all that. And I'll never forget Brian Grant,
the former Blazer's power forward, played for the Miami Heat
when he went down there and that was Pat. That
game a tour of the arena and there's windows that
look out on South Beach from the arena and they
(20:13):
stopped and they admired the view, and Pat said, yeah,
you're not gonna be spending too much time there. That's
the way they operate. And if you think like well
players can, you know they go wherever they want. Pat
Riley has Miami dialed. If you're not, if you're showing
up in the wrong places, he's going to know about
(20:33):
it and you're gonna pay for it.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Brian Grant one of my favorites to watch, No question
about it. You mentioned Portland Dame. Lillard has now asked
out one did he help get that bag for Jeremy
Grant as a thank you before asking out. And the
other does he get to his desired destination of the
Miami Heat.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
Yeah. I answer the first question, yes, no doubt that
Jeremy got paid because the Portland trail Blazers knew it
was a prerequisite to having any chance of keeping Damien.
But there was also hey, I want you to add
Draymond Green. And not only did they not add Draymond Green,
but they didn't add any replica of Draymond Green. So
(21:19):
and I think on some level, I think, on some level,
Damien might have known how difficult it was going to
be to build a championship team this summer for the
Portland Trail Blazers, especially after they didn't trade the number
three pick. And I'm not all that upset with the
(21:42):
Blazers in doing what they did, but there's a lot
of posturing going on. Look, this is the perfect time
for them to pivot. As much as I think that
the Miami Heat could use Lillard, he is about to
turn thirty three years old. He's gonna get paid fifty
million each of the next two years, close to I
(22:04):
think average of and then he's getting paid darn near
sixty million the two years after that, and so if
there was a time for the Blazers to pivot and rebuild,
this was it. And so I'm not mad at him leaving,
and I'm not mad at the Blazers for using that
number three pick on Scoot Henderson. But whether they're admitting
(22:29):
a public 're publicly or not, this is this is
something that needed to happen on both ends. And again,
other than Donovan Mitchell not getting to New York, invariably
players end up getting where they want to go. And
I would fully expect that at some point we're going
to get an announcement this summer that Jamian Lillard is
(22:51):
part of Miami.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
Heat Rick Buker with us here, Jason Smith, Mike Harman
in for Dan and the Dan. That's today. All right.
So last week we had, like we had part one
of our Lakers conversation. You said, Hey, I like what
they've done so far. You know that they signed forty
seven new players, and you know they brought in Gabe Vincent.
But you said, I have to wait until I see
(23:14):
what happens with Austin reeves to give the final talk
on this. So Austin Reeves is back four years fifty
six million. Where are you with what the Lakers have done?
Speaker 5 (23:25):
It's they've done as well as you possibly could. I'm impressed,
especially the number that they got for Austin Reeves. Thirteen
million per when people were talking you can go up
as much as twenty thirteen mili is is a good
number for him. But so I here's my question, And
(23:53):
because I was surprised that it was thirteen mil, I
was surprised that no one put an offer sheet out there. Now,
some of it was the Lakers made it clear that
they were going to match anything, but you could still
put a number out there that is going to make
it a little more painful for them to get if
you were willing for the Lakers to blink and say no,
(24:17):
we're willing to pay Austin Reeves eighteen nineteen twenty million.
And I haven't talked to people around the league, but
just kind of looking at his game, the one question
that I have is how much better is he going
to get? He was a revelation last year and he's
(24:38):
a very good player, and I respect that he would
continue to be a good player, but he had he
got to the free throw line last year more than
Jalen Brown, Kyrie Irving and Darius Garland. Now he's going
to be able to continue to either full defenders or
(24:59):
referees uh and being able to do that, and it's
a big part of his his his game and his cleverness.
The other part that I now looking at the supporting cast,
which I think is although size wise, there's still a
question in terms of matching up with the Denver Nuggets
and and and any team that has any size at
(25:20):
center is now all the pressure is on Lebron James
and Anthony Davis. Now, can they as a duo if
you're looking at the best two players on each team
contending in the West, can they be better than Jokich
and Murray? Can they be better than John Morant and
Jaren Jackson Junior? Can they be better than Steph Curry
(25:43):
and whichever other Warrior you want to put as their
as their second best player, Andrew Wiggins, Draymond Green, whatever
that is going to be Now that's the that's the
next thing. So whereas previously it was all about rob
po Lincoln, it was about the supporting cast, now it's
going to be can Anthony Davis and Lebron, James deliver
(26:07):
and we shall see. It was last year again was
a surprise in that they were as healthy as they
were and still you could make the case that Lebron
kind of ran out of gas in the in the postseason.
But that's going to be That's where the pressure is
now going to be on the Lakers. They have enough
around them that that star duo is going to have
to take them there.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Rick, as we get ready for the hardened front moving
east bound towards New York, I want to see a
whole weather thing when you're on speak on the FS
one going there, or Damian Lillard eventually getting dealt. Do
we have any other potential for big time trades and
(26:48):
photo shopping guys in the new uniforms.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
I really don't at this point. I don't think so.
I don't. I mean, I think the dust has pretty
much settled other than and you're being you're being a
little bit greedy here. I mean, we still have James
Harden and Damian Lillard hanging out there to entertain us
for you know how long this summer And you're like, yeah,
(27:13):
but but but you know what about Paul George.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
I want more hand to give me.
Speaker 5 (27:18):
Another like someone. Yeah, I'm sorry, I think that's probably it.
Now that Dylan Brooks has found a home, We've we've
we don't have that third guy to be a bandied about.
I say that jokingly. Food on Dylan Brooks that he got.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
Paid eighty million. How about Dad?
Speaker 5 (27:38):
I mean between him and Fred van Vliet, that is
to me, Wow, And you have all those young those
young stars in Houston. I'm really I'm fascinated to see
how that works. And I mean Fred is getting paid
(27:58):
on a level with like Death and Anthony Davis, and
good on him for getting that bag. But man, dude's
never been an All star and he's getting paid like
the absolute top of the league for the next three years.
That there's there's there's a price to pay on the
(28:19):
flip side of that, which is everybody expects you to
play up to your contract, and man, that's going to
be challenging for Fred with that Houston team.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Is that your biggest head scratch or so far in
free agency?
Speaker 5 (28:31):
There's that There's no no question about it. That was
a lot. But Houston needed a point guard without questions.
But that is that is a lot of money. Good
on Rich Paul, you know that that deal. I'm still
I'm still intrigued who they were, who they were negotiating,
(28:54):
what what other options spread had that prompted Houston to
spend as much as they did.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
So now that at all the dollars are spent? Whatever?
What what's the next column? What's the next podcast? Headge Scratchers,
Best Moves Lakers in twenty or just how much you're
going to gluttonize over the holiday weekend?
Speaker 5 (29:14):
Actually it's looks h dude, you know how it is.
I'm working this week. Bro. Oh yeah, I've got I've
got no time for gluttony. What I'm well, we're about
to hit free, We're about to hit the summer League.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
And yeah, Lakers And he'd played at three o'clock today, Rick,
you got to get out there for the game.
Speaker 5 (29:35):
Yeah yeah. And I'm curious to see like the hoop
law around some of these guys, particularly when Banana, Like,
I just we've set the bar so high for that kid,
and I think Kennan's try to do everything they can
to lower it and lower expectations this year. But between
(29:57):
two things between Scoot Henderson unless where Manana, but Scoot Henderson,
Brandon Miller, all the excitement over over some of the
American players and the fact that we just got our
clocks cleaned by by Turkey in uh in international basketball
with the what category it is in, but we got
(30:19):
beat going away by by Turkey. And we've talked about
this before about the the rest of the world not
catching not only catching up, but playing us, playing us,
even in passing us in some ways because of who
we're seeing compete for m VP and winning championships in
(30:40):
the NBA, Like, there's a bigger story there in terms
of where our American talent is and where our understanding
of the game is compared to the globe globally other teams,
and so who knows that that's kind of deep. I
don't know if I'm ready to take a deep, but
(31:00):
that will be appearing in the podcast very soon as.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Well, along with your definition of a tornado with the
hot hot air meeting the cold air and.
Speaker 5 (31:11):
The beard the beard in Madison Square Garden or actually
the beard not Madden Square and Madison Square Garden because
availability is always an issue. The beard on the sideline.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Suit up all right, and make sure Nicks's Big East
favorites this year all right, they should be able to
win it.
Speaker 5 (31:33):
You know who the coach is going to be the
former right right, they're right around the corner.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
He's just hanging outside of Madison Square Garden top. Timbolow
was going, what's going on. I'm just here to say hi,
Just here to say hi to some guys. Don't worry
about it.
Speaker 5 (31:50):
No, everything is fine, exactly, said Jim. Jim Dolan walks
in with Jay Wright and Tims is like, wait a minute, what.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Uh, take it easy, rit, Happy fourth of July. Man,
We'll talk to you soon, buddy. It's funny, you know
he talks about when Minyama and and obviously there's gonna
be a lot of it to look. Summer League begins today, right,
you know Lakers they play at three. Oh no, but that.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
Was the joke, right, yeah, it slows down now, right?
Speaker 2 (32:19):
No, not really, No, we get. We get because it's
kind of like the NBA with Summer League has kind
of become a bigger version of the NFL's mini camps,
where hey, we get the draft and then we think, okay,
we're going away until camp, but no, we get mini
camp as that last little bit and then they go
away for a month and they come back. And that's
kind of where it is with the NBA now where
we finish we have free agency. Oh, we get Summer
(32:41):
League and then they go away from You get that teaser, baby, Yeah,
you get a little bit. Yeah, you get to feed
the jones to see the guy in the new uniform.
As you say with when min Yama, they should do
everything they can. Have him go play a couple of
minutes and start running around like he's Philip so Seymour, Hoffman.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Rain Man. So you had a really bad five minutes
of play, So everybody gets there poison and vitrioll out,
and then you keep working them behind the scenes with
don't get in everybody to get him ready.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
See the thing I'm wondering with web min Yama is
this is if you remember, I mean you look you're
a Bulls fan. You remember when Jordan got hurt and
he broke his foot sure early in his career, and
when he came back, it was a case of where
the Bulls said, you are cleared to play six minutes
and a half and that's it. And he played like
six minutes and a half and then he came out
(33:31):
like and they would call timeouts to get him out
of the game.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Yeah, him down, Yep, we're not messing around now. And
then after a week it was okay, next week, seven
minutes he can play in a half, and then seven
and a half minutes.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
And eight minutes. They weren't going to do that to him, right,
seven minute abs, six minute abps and and that's how
they did it because they weren't going to mess around
with Jordan because of the asset they knew he was,
with Webbin Yama being seven to three and a half
and weighing two hundred and fifteen pounds, which you put
him on the on the lighter side of NBA players already.
I wonder if the best thing for the Spurs isn't
(34:04):
to say, listen, this is how we're gonna manage expectations.
He is going to play twenty minutes a game for
the beginning. That's it. Twenty minute. You're gonna play ten
minutes in the first half, ten minutes in the second half,
and that's it. We're not gonna We're not gonna turn
into Greg Odin, have him turned into a player where
we worry about his body or Zion Williamson. He needs
to ramp up into the riggers of the NBA. So
he is on a strict minutes restriction because we're about
(34:26):
the future. Fans would say, yes, if we'd love this, yes,
oh yes, no, don't mess around get them because they
know they're not gonna win the title this year, but
just having when Binyama is exciting enough for a little while.
And I wonder if that's not the best way to
go to say, these are the minutes you're gonna play
as your body gets used to the pounding, so you
don't wind up getting hurt and the soft tissue issues
happen and we can't stay on the floor. You need
(34:48):
to build up your your body and build up your
endurance so you can play. So here's a very strict
minutes restriction we're gonna have for basically the entirety of
your first year in the NBA.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
Yeah, games, limits, minutes restriction, all of those. Look, Summer
League is just like a giant teaser trailer, right, We're
not getting the full movie for a few months. But
here's a little bit to wet your appetite, to give
the blogg a fear in the retooled Twitter verse, an
opportunity to salivate and wonder and ponder what might be
(35:19):
in a changing face and a new guy to put
up on the billboards of the NBA. I mean it's brilliant, right,
I mean it's brilliant marketing, brilliant strategy. We'll see what
Papovich does with it.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
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Speaker 2 (36:28):
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Speaker 3 (36:33):
You know they they pay a close show with us. Yeah,
they showed up in my timeline yesterday, even with everything
else going on in Twitter. It was a hey, here's
the love from the garden where maybe they'll be there
to welcome James Harden.
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dot com. Slash Match one of the big moves in
free agency that happened this weekend. It was a really
big deal that happened late Saturday night. Uh, Demonta Sabonis
kind of gets paid. Yeah, five years, two hundred and
seventeen million dollar extension from the Kings in a free
(37:32):
agency this year where teams have kind of stayed the same, right,
I said, you know, nobody has made that big move.
Lillard is the one guy that can take a team
from hey, we're a contender to a title contender, or
an already a title contender to a title favorite. I
got news for you. The Kings are going to the finals.
(37:53):
Get you. The Kings are going to the fum Yeah,
they're gonna win fifteen games, and suddenly look at us
are in the lottery.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
We were rising, We had all these young guys. What
the hell happened?
Speaker 2 (38:05):
You look at the Western Conference and the Nuggets are
the champs. Likely, they'll get a bounce because everything went
right for them this year. Jamal Murray was healthy, Yokic
was healthy. Everything was They'll get a little bit of
a bounce. I still think they're going to in the
next five years, they'll make two more finals and win
at least one of them. But they're gonna get a
bit of a bounce this year because everything went their way.
(38:25):
They beat a lot of lower seeds on the way
to the NBA Finals. Things went their way, so they'll
get a little bit of moving back to the mean.
All the other teams in the West have issues. Right,
You think Memphis is is all set well, now we
have Marcus Smartin and Derek Rose to show the way
to John Morant. But who knows. The guy's missing the
first twenty five games. You don't know what how long
(38:47):
he's even be able to stay on the court. The
Lakers and made a bunch of moves, but they've basically
stayed the same. I like what they did, but they've
stayed the same. The Warriors got older. All the other
teams kind of have issues. The Kings are young. They
got the best offense in the league. They made a
couple of moves, you know, trade for Chris Duarte, which
is a pretty nice move. They got a lot of
(39:07):
guards on this team. They have a big move in
them coming where they're gonna address what they need. I
thought Kuzma would have been a perfect fit for them
in Sacramento. He's what they need. They need a guy
in the wing that can defend a little bit. But
they are young. They are terrific. They return of the
playoffs last year. Yeah, they fell victim a little bit.
To Hey, we haven't been here in a while. The Warriors,
(39:28):
we've been here every year it could have gone their way.
It didn't. But I'm telling you, the Kings are so talented,
they're deep. They're going to the NBA Finals this year.
We'll be talking about Mike Brown coaching in the NBA
Finals again. Oh, it's been a long time since Cleveland,
Mike and Lebron James. What's different for your career? Now?
Give me the Kings in the NBA Finals. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
I mean, they did make the decision to bring back
Harrison Barnes with a little bit of shuffling. That money
could have been spent to bring in Kuzma at the
same rate, or you could have come over the top
a little bit. So that that's one that a move
that might have gone elsewhere in their free agent shopping
as much as you wanted to keep some of this
(40:08):
core together. But who's to say that everything goes right
for them this year. I mean, if you're gonna if
we're gonna play that game right, everything went right for them.
Everything went right for the Nuggets both. They both could
have exactly what the rest of the Western Conference had
happened in twenty twenty two twenty three happened to them.
And I'm they're young, so you're not looking for the
(40:31):
injury bugs or whatever else. But you know, it all
went right for coach Mike Brown and the road opened up.
I'm excited to see it. I love the core that
they have there, and I'd be hard pressed to try
to elevate someone beyond the Nuggets, beyond the Kings. I'll
give you that.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
Well. Everything went right till they got to the playoffs.
It had to play the it had to play the Warriors.
This is where where.
Speaker 3 (40:55):
They they lost to a team that well, I mean,
you've thrown into the trash after they excised the guy
that they decided and they pinpointed in group thought as
the veteran thing tank and Mike Dunleavy Junior taking over
with Steve Kerr to say, hey, Jordan Poole is the
problem from a money standpoint, you know, as Rick Bucker explained, Vid.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
Was get older all and you could have gotten more
for Jordan Poole than to You got a thirty eight
year old Chris Paul and you traded away a first
and a second round pick. I mean, Jordan Poole, Okay,
if he's a problem in in in Golden State, I
get it. But he's got some value around the league
a little bit more than that. You having to say,
here's a guy and a couple of picks, and we're
getting a thirty eight year old Chris Pah.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
But you're you're forgetting you know, part of part of this,
and what makes some of these trades and moves great
is that they provide great content for us. Chris Paul
becoming a member of the Warriors is great for us.
So I am not gonna let you denigrate his career
and his aptitude at age thirty eight, he's a.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
Thirty Yes, you're looking at the back of his basketball car.
Doesn't happen? What minute tonight? When when's he gonna have
to play? When they get to the playoffs? Suddenly it's
gonna be Hey, I'm done, I'm done. That's what happens
to him. Every year. He plays well until he can't
play anymore because he's too tired and he's got too
much tread on.
Speaker 3 (42:18):
His tires, prosthing for you, what's gonna worry about.
Speaker 2 (42:23):
James Stop Stop, that's not stopped.
Speaker 3 (42:27):
Don't get on Twitter till it happens. You need all
the room possible.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
That's not you know, what's It's not science, it's not happening.
Hardened to the Clippers, Yes, harden to the Knicks. No, no,
not gonna. It's not and I and I I really
am upset that you guys keep trying to put that
out in the universe. It's upsetting me. It's not. No,
it's not. It's not.
Speaker 3 (42:46):
It's good for the game, and it's good for science.
That's a weather pattern we can get behind.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
It's been it's been a pretty big last half hour
with science. I'll tell you it's been something. Uh from
my gom Jason Happy for July. Colin Cowards up next,
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Learn more at mbusa dot com slash eque. That's mbusa
dot com slash EQE. Well so far, Mike, so far,
so good. I've not hit any kind of Twitter limit.
I'm able to see exactly when, because if Damian Lillard
or James Harden wind up with new teams, I want
to be able to not hit my limit. Why be
able to know this right away? So far it's been
(00:48):
going okay. But every time I hit scroll, I wonder
if something's gonna happen. I get so nervous.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Mike, Well, the bigger, bigger thing I mean beyond these
sports stories is I mean, I need to know what
the secret songs and how people reacted to them on
the Taylor Swift tour. I mean, it just doesn't work
without that.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
For me, well, yeah, cause you get a bunch of
tweets on that and then then you're done. You can't
figure it out.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Yeah, but I now have to figure out what outfit
to wear for for the Eras tour when it hits
Los Angeles. So you know that works. And then we
play the long game. Uh, you know we the waiting
game is a terrible thing. Of course, when we want
our NBA news now, especially with a number of guys,
we photoshop into different uniforms and and for you, I
(01:33):
think you've now tried to will everybody to the Knicks.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
You can't have the.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Vorte like that, that force and energy you going. It's
everybody else is gonna get sucked up into that nowmes Harden, Wait.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
A minute, No, no, no, you got you gotta say.
I've tried to will everybody there except James Harden.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
No, the problem is that much energy. He's just gonna
get pulled in by the beard. No matter what you do.
It's no science.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
No, no, it's not the science. What do you got, Frostburg.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
I was gonna say, you got to leave all that
all that Twitter stuff, stay off at Twitter so that
you can have as much room as you need for
when James Harden does land on the.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Next that's what I believe you.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
You and Frank your buddy there can can start putting
up all sorts of tweets of how it's now going
to ruin the franchise.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
We're on the comeback. We were ready. How do I
how do I delete apps? There we go, delete, delete, delete, James.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Like you, a couple of big efforts from the Mets
to start July, and you're gonna start yelling their back
possible room known to man for when James Harden does
go there, Man, it did stop.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
That's not happening. They're not getting James Harden gloriously. No
no no no no no no no no no no
no no no no no no. I keep saying no
no no no no no no no no no no
no no no no no no James.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
No no, James, Which Bells and Pizza Place are your
favorites here.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
In New York, James, James, come to the Clippers where
we can, because I really want to see how Cardon
and Paul George and Kawhi Lennard. I want to see
how they all co exist. I want to see that.
I mean that come on that that's where everybody wins.
Noill got Well, the Knicks are worried about winning, Now
come on, man, I mean the Clippers want to put
on a show. The Knicks are worried about winning. Let
them worry about winning.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
But see, that's the hard part of this for me
with those two teams in the mix. And I'm speaking
harden to the Knickson instat but just for the sake
of this argument, him going to the Knicks is a
win for us for our show normally seven to eleven
PM across the great Fox Sports Radio Network, the iHeartRadio app.
(03:44):
You take us with you wherever you're going on this
holiday holiday holiday weekend. It would be delicious theater for me,
especially once the Jets start melting down and you're trying
to look forward to Knick season and then James Arns
wave it at you. That would be great for us,
great theater for the US living and working out of
(04:05):
Los Angeles. Yes, that Clippers scenario that you put together.
All right, which two are playing tonight? Do they drawn lots?
I mean, are they playing uh rock paper scissors in
the locker room? All right, who's up tonight?
Speaker 2 (04:21):
We have enough content we have enough You and I
have enough content James Harden. We can, we can. We
gonna have fun with James Harden. Doesn't need to be
with the Knicks, doesn't need to be with it.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Oh no, no no, but that personal angs, the the highs,
the lows, the ride the lightning, ride that roller coaster,
all of those things. I mean, that's what we do
better than anyone.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
So it'll ride the lightning and roller coasters in in
in l A with with Harden. We'll do it there.
We're not gonna I'm not gonna do it in New York.
I'm not, and I don't. I don't know why anybody
thinks they should go get James Harden. Nobody is James
Harden away from winning a championships, even stopped even stop
at Frostburg. Even in his heyday, there were still I
can Harden lead you because what would always happen when
(05:02):
Harden was the was the one Oh he was.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Tripping over his tongue because he played many a weirly minute.
He would try to.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Get you great, and then when it would get to
the end of a big playoff game, Harden would get
tired and the team would lose.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Well, maybe your team would be good enough that he
wouldn't have to carry such a heavy load of defensively.
So then maybe in the playoffs he's there for you.
How about that?
Speaker 2 (05:24):
No, so now Harden's not a one. So he goes
to the nets where all, we got a big three.
We're gonna win, We're gonna win championships. And I told
you they wouldn't make it fifty games, and they didn't,
and then it was, oh, maybe we got to get
rid of James Harden. Harden goes to the Sixers. Hey,
it doesn't need to be the really be the one.
He was one of the big three there. Now he
just needs to be the one a to Joel em
beat it. We're gonna win. And again, the Sixers can't
(05:47):
get out of the second round of the playoffs. And
James Harden had a couple of big games, but that's
who he is. One out of every four games, James Harden, Hey,
that's a big game. But you know what, there's other
guys that have one out of every four. And Manuel
quickly has one big game out of every four. He
comes off the bench at place twenty five minutes for
the Knicks. James Harden is not who he was, and
teams don't look at the back of his basketball card.
(06:10):
Go on Basketball reference dot com and go point be
great to get James Harden, man, look at it, look
at look at what he's done over the course. Great. No,
you're getting a guy who is kind of just a guy.
And I get that he shot pretty well from deep
last year, but he still he scored twenty one a game.
Twenty one a game, and there's lots of guys that
can do that. And you want James Harden to be
dynamic and affecting the and affecting the team every time
(06:32):
he goes down the floor, and he's not that player.
I mean, how much more evidence do you need to
see that? Yeah, winning with if you're trying to win
a championship, there's better options out there than James Harden.
I'm just going by the facts and what I've seen
for the past ten plus years.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
I'm just telling you, buddy that in the right circumstance
the Knicks, perhaps it's time that he breaks through.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
It's not no now, just.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Kidding, Like, you also have to facilitate a deal in
the Sixers aren't gonna give him.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Away, and we're not gone, Oh, Frostburg, you really want
me to key your car? You really want me to
kill I'm just gonna key your car and just write
Brunson on the side of it.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Just well, because we keep talking, and obviously it's a
human business like all of this, everything we talk about. Remember,
at the at the core of it is people that
have to feel like they're wanted, respected, loved, like everybody
does in their homes, in their relationships, and in their
own workplaces. NBA players are no different. And Joel embiid,
(07:33):
if you give Harden away and just send him off,
he's looking around, going, wait, what's going on here? I
trusted the process, I was the process. Maybe he starts
yelling I am the process. I don't know, but he's
gonna look around saying, all right, what do I got you?
You're not going to trade Tobias Harris and and but
Harden's gone. We we didn't really work out the whole
(07:57):
Simmons thing, all of this, and do I I want
to be here anymore? So, I mean part of it
is trying to keep him happy in the process.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Well, if you want to get mbid to the Knicks
that I'm down for, I mean, if you want.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
That to happen. No, no, no, no, you get hard.
You don't get embid.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
No no no. I'd rather have embid, though I'd.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Rather be I'd anybody given with with cognitive reasoning skills
above the level of a six month Here.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
You go, take Julius Randall and R. J. Barrett. That
that that'll make the money work for Joelle Embiid will
be absolutely fine. It'll beware. Now, if you change James
Harden to Damian Lillard, that's different, right, And and that's
why Lillard has this this aura about him, because he's
the one guy in free agency so far that will
sign with a new team and take them from contender
(08:46):
to favorite. Nobody else has done that. And that's that's
what people are forgetting about free agency so far, is
that we've seen a lot of big deals, sign a
lot of big names, but has any signing happened that
makes you go wow, that right there that makes them different?
Then they way different than they were, and that makes
them an absolute title favorite. They can dethrone the Nuggets,
that's how good they are. We haven't had that yet
(09:08):
because team no one has changed.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Teams Brown away from the Nuggets.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Yes, that's what it is. It's it's Bruce Brown for
as much money as the Nicks gave Jalen Brunson. So, hey,
raise my hand. Is Brunson still overpaid? I'm just asking
for a friend. Is he still overpaid at twenty five million?
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (09:23):
No, he's But you don't go back.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Just take that for a second. Remember we we talked
about that and left. It's like, what what's the market
price of a good point guard?
Speaker 2 (09:34):
All right?
Speaker 3 (09:35):
I mean look at some of the contracts that got
doled out this year and then all of a sudden,
Jalen Brunson looks like he was a bargain baseman steel
and he was.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Already a good player.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Yes, when was when Mark Cuban never got another shot
because the stack was the deck was stacked against him.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
But this is, this is the time now for for
Lillard be call He's a guy that can flip it.
And now Chris Haynes of Yahoo is reporting the teams
that have reached out to the Blazers for Lillard are
the Celtics and the Pelicans, and the Clippers and the
Tea Wolves.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Those in Brooklyn, yes, Brooklyn in Miami.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
And so and Miami being his preferred destination. So now
this is but this is the key, and this is
what no one's talking about when it comes to Lillard. Yes,
he can flip and turn a team. He can turn
the Heat into an absolute title favorite the least. Absolutely,
are the Blazers really going to train him there? I mean,
just think about it just for a second. I know
that Lillard has meant a lot to the Blazers organization.
(10:40):
But he finally comes out and says he wants to trade.
And thankfully Lillard did it after years, after every year
of you know, Lillard might not be happy and behind
closed doors he may want out. Oh no, he stays.
I'm so glad he finally stepped up and said, hey,
I want out because I was done with this merry
go round every single offseason with Damian Lillard was oh ma,
he wants out, but always stays so it might not
(11:02):
be that bad. Always stays, might one out again, Oh
but he stays again, it might not be that bad. No,
I'm glad he finally said I went out. And you
know he's upset about it because he's talking. He's going
back at trolls on Twitter who were saying you've ruined everything,
You've ruined the team yet, you know what, So I
know he didn't want to do it, but I'm glad
he did. I'm glad he finally stepped up and said
I won out And now he's gonna get traded. But really,
(11:23):
where are the Blazers gonna trade him? Of those four teams?
Are they gonna trade him with the Celtics or the
Heat or are they gonna trade him the Timberwolves of
the Pelicans. They're gonna trade the t Wolves or the
Pelicans because number one, they're gonna want a good young
player at least to be the centerpiece of a deal. Like,
they're not gonna take the Celtics off of Well, we
got brogged in, we got some first round picks, none
at all. No, we're not just taking a bunch of trash.
(11:43):
Not a fantasy trade where I'm a weak owner in
a fantasy league and you could just get my star
player for a bunch of stuff. No, they're gonna want
to trade him where they can get a really good
young player back in short of the Celtics including Jalen Brown,
which is probably not gonna happen for a couple of reasons.
He's got the extension coming up, he's gotta sign. And plus,
they're not gonna do them a favor. They're not gonna say, oh,
you want to go to the Heat, Yes, whatever we can,
(12:05):
we will hand deliver you to the Miami Heat. We're
gonna put you on a on a private plane with
Jimmy Butler and pat Riley and you can do the
deal there. It's gonna be a no. They're gonna send
him some place where it's okay, you want out. You
don't want to be part of what we have going
on here. You wait it for us to sign Jeremy
Grant for one hundred and sixty million dollars. Then you
told us you want out. Okay, guess what. You're going
to Minnesota or you're going to Detroit. Good luck you
(12:26):
and Kate Cunningham. Make it work with the Pistons. That's
what nobody's talking about, because that's more likely where Damie
Little's gonna get dumped. It's great to have all these fantasies,
but all these big teams, but are one of these
big teams really gonna part with what they need? They
need the big players if they're gonna be contenders. They
can't part with what they want. The Blazer are gonna
take that offer. That's really good young player they can
(12:47):
that they compare with Scoot Henderson, and they're gonna go
forward there. That's the trade that's gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Well, I would say this just really quick, is you
know you're trying to facilitate things. Been rumors and Haynes
talking about this going into the week that you might
need a third team. There were other reports saying, hey,
maybe when it's all done, we've got a four way,
four way trade that has to go down to make
(13:11):
the money and players and get everybody satisfied. I would
say this, when it comes to the Pelicans and te Wolves,
you're gonna trade Dame Lillard to the team one of
the teams that you're gonna end up fighting to crawl
through the Western Conference. That would be my only reticence
to think that those are the destinations. And he's a
guy that gave you eleven years. While you want to
(13:33):
do the best for yourself, and that's the hour we're talking,
I'm sure you also kind of want to do right
by your guy too, because you need that reputational thing
going on in your organization that you treat players right,
otherwise you truly become Siberia.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Enjoy the Pistons. Enjoy that.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Hey man, I like their roster.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
What do you do by my pistons gear? Now?
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Oh, vacation, But that's why you vacation.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
I know they'll love me in Detroit. Now, I say, all,
We're gonna go.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Get you vacation. Detroit need white Castle. No one loves
you up there.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Yeah, no white Castles, but I really yeah no, no,
no Muscrab Dinners. Second, white Castle.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Don't get a Tony Island. What is wrong with you?
Speaker 2 (14:15):
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we've seen a lot in free agency so far, and
we have a lot that we're going to see. Joining
us now in the hotline. Nobody better to break it down.
Fox Sports one analyst check out us on the Ball podcast.
In fact, his most recent On the Ball podcast it
is an hour and a half on how the Knicks,
after signing Dante DiVincenzo, are now going to win the
(16:33):
NBA Championship. Rick Buker, please explain in detail with that
for me? Please?
Speaker 5 (16:38):
Did you say the nc double A because I would
go I would go with the former having proved that
with that, that that trio of Jalen Brunson, Josh Hart
and Dante DiVincenzo.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
But they'll win the Big East this year, the Big Three, the.
Speaker 5 (16:57):
Other one, bless you. And unless you're adding James part
and it's just not gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Yeah, stop my guy, Rich Stuker, e Buker, let's go
stop putting that in the universe. Okay, stop putting James
hard to the mix out in the universe.
Speaker 5 (17:12):
Come on, come on, nicked fans are they're they're riding
a little too high. We we have to add a
little pain and torture to uh and and adding James
would certainly do that all that of God, it's just
it's it's you know, the the what creates a tornado
is cold air and hot air meeting, right, and that
(17:36):
would actually be what you would have with all that
good vibes from Dante and Jalen and Josh and that
great chemistry. And then here comes James come in the
other direction. You'd hurricane whatever it would be, it would
be a it would be some sort of natural disaster
and I'm here for it.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Oh, I got to send you a bottle of your favorite.
Now that's the thanks.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Rick He's alist now, Ricky high pressure fronts, high pressure fronts.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
Sure, yeah, I do what I can, all right.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
So sir, with James Harden, how how does this end
up like we've heard reports that it may take all
summer what happens with him.
Speaker 5 (18:18):
Look, generally, invariably, players get what they want. So if
he's looking to go to the LA Clippers, and the
LA Clippers are looking to much like the Golden State Warriors,
those are the two teams that had the highest payrolls
in the league last year. We have a new collective
bargaining agreement coming in that's going to be incredibly punitive,
(18:41):
not just financially, but just in terms of being able
to build your team. Uh, it limits all of your
exemptions and and and ability to sign players. I would
not be surprised, and I probably if I was. If
I was betting, I would, I would bet that he
whined up with the Clippers. You know, it's going to
be a matter of what is going the other direction.
(19:06):
But that's another team that to talk itself into trying
it out for a year with Harden, then seeing where
it goes and he wents to go back. You know
what troubles me is he wants to go back there
because that's where he's from, and there or or Houston
(19:28):
until Houston kind of said no, thank you, And that
can That always concerns me when a player is more
interested in lifestyle than what the capability is that of
that team in playing for a championship and how he
fits in it. So I don't put Damian Lillard going
(19:48):
to Miami in that category of the people have a
great impression of Miami being the place, you know, the
South Beach and all that. And I'll never forget Brian Grant,
the former Blazer's power forward, played for the Miami Heat
when he went down there and that was Pat. That
game a tour of the arena and there's windows that
look out on South Beach from the arena and they
(20:13):
stopped and they admired the view, and Pat said, yeah,
you're not gonna be spending too much time there. That's
the way they operate. And if you think like well
players can, you know they go wherever they want. Pat
Riley has Miami dialed. If you're not, if you're showing
up in the wrong places, he's going to know about
(20:33):
it and you're gonna pay for it.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Brian Grant one of my favorites to watch, No question
about it. You mentioned Portland Dame. Lillard has now asked
out one did he help get that bag for Jeremy
Grant as a thank you before asking out. And the
other does he get to his desired destination of the
Miami Heat.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
Yeah. I answer the first question, yes, no doubt that
Jeremy got paid because the Portland trail Blazers knew it
was a prerequisite to having any chance of keeping Damien.
But there was also hey, I want you to add
Draymond Green. And not only did they not add Draymond Green,
but they didn't add any replica of Draymond Green. So
(21:19):
and I think on some level, I think, on some level,
Damien might have known how difficult it was going to
be to build a championship team this summer for the
Portland Trail Blazers, especially after they didn't trade the number
three pick. And I'm not all that upset with the
(21:42):
Blazers in doing what they did, but there's a lot
of posturing going on. Look, this is the perfect time
for them to pivot. As much as I think that
the Miami Heat could use Lillard, he is about to
turn thirty three years old. He's gonna get paid fifty
million each of the next two years, close to I
(22:04):
think average of and then he's getting paid darn near
sixty million the two years after that, and so if
there was a time for the Blazers to pivot and rebuild,
this was it. And so I'm not mad at him leaving,
and I'm not mad at the Blazers for using that
number three pick on Scoot Henderson. But whether they're admitting
(22:29):
a public 're publicly or not, this is this is
something that needed to happen on both ends. And again,
other than Donovan Mitchell not getting to New York, invariably
players end up getting where they want to go. And
I would fully expect that at some point we're going
to get an announcement this summer that Jamian Lillard is
(22:51):
part of Miami.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
Heat Rick Buker with us here, Jason Smith, Mike Harman
in for Dan and the Dan. That's today. All right.
So last week we had, like we had part one
of our Lakers conversation. You said, Hey, I like what
they've done so far. You know that they signed forty
seven new players, and you know they brought in Gabe Vincent.
But you said, I have to wait until I see
(23:14):
what happens with Austin reeves to give the final talk
on this. So Austin Reeves is back four years fifty
six million. Where are you with what the Lakers have done?
Speaker 5 (23:25):
It's they've done as well as you possibly could. I'm impressed,
especially the number that they got for Austin Reeves. Thirteen
million per when people were talking you can go up
as much as twenty thirteen mili is is a good
number for him. But so I here's my question, And
(23:53):
because I was surprised that it was thirteen mil, I
was surprised that no one put an offer sheet out there. Now,
some of it was the Lakers made it clear that
they were going to match anything, but you could still
put a number out there that is going to make
it a little more painful for them to get if
you were willing for the Lakers to blink and say no,
(24:17):
we're willing to pay Austin Reeves eighteen nineteen twenty million.
And I haven't talked to people around the league, but
just kind of looking at his game, the one question
that I have is how much better is he going
to get? He was a revelation last year and he's
(24:38):
a very good player, and I respect that he would
continue to be a good player, but he had he
got to the free throw line last year more than
Jalen Brown, Kyrie Irving and Darius Garland. Now he's going
to be able to continue to either full defenders or
(24:59):
referees uh and being able to do that, and it's
a big part of his his his game and his cleverness.
The other part that I now looking at the supporting cast,
which I think is although size wise, there's still a
question in terms of matching up with the Denver Nuggets
and and and any team that has any size at
(25:20):
center is now all the pressure is on Lebron James
and Anthony Davis. Now, can they as a duo if
you're looking at the best two players on each team
contending in the West, can they be better than Jokich
and Murray? Can they be better than John Morant and
Jaren Jackson Junior? Can they be better than Steph Curry
(25:43):
and whichever other Warrior you want to put as their
as their second best player, Andrew Wiggins, Draymond Green, whatever
that is going to be Now that's the that's the
next thing. So whereas previously it was all about rob
po Lincoln, it was about the supporting cast, now it's
going to be can Anthony Davis and Lebron, James deliver
(26:07):
and we shall see. It was last year again was
a surprise in that they were as healthy as they
were and still you could make the case that Lebron
kind of ran out of gas in the in the postseason.
But that's going to be That's where the pressure is
now going to be on the Lakers. They have enough
around them that that star duo is going to have
to take them there.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Rick, as we get ready for the hardened front moving
east bound towards New York, I want to see a
whole weather thing when you're on speak on the FS
one going there, or Damian Lillard eventually getting dealt. Do
we have any other potential for big time trades and
(26:48):
photo shopping guys in the new uniforms.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
I really don't at this point. I don't think so.
I don't. I mean, I think the dust has pretty
much settled other than and you're being you're being a
little bit greedy here. I mean, we still have James
Harden and Damian Lillard hanging out there to entertain us
for you know how long this summer And you're like, yeah,
(27:13):
but but but you know what about Paul George.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
I want more hand to give me.
Speaker 5 (27:18):
Another like someone. Yeah, I'm sorry, I think that's probably it.
Now that Dylan Brooks has found a home, We've we've
we don't have that third guy to be a bandied about.
I say that jokingly. Food on Dylan Brooks that he got.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
Paid eighty million. How about Dad?
Speaker 5 (27:38):
I mean between him and Fred van Vliet, that is
to me, Wow, And you have all those young those
young stars in Houston. I'm really I'm fascinated to see
how that works. And I mean Fred is getting paid
(27:58):
on a level with like Death and Anthony Davis, and
good on him for getting that bag. But man, dude's
never been an All star and he's getting paid like
the absolute top of the league for the next three years.
That there's there's there's a price to pay on the
(28:19):
flip side of that, which is everybody expects you to
play up to your contract, and man, that's going to
be challenging for Fred with that Houston team.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Is that your biggest head scratch or so far in
free agency?
Speaker 5 (28:31):
There's that There's no no question about it. That was
a lot. But Houston needed a point guard without questions.
But that is that is a lot of money. Good
on Rich Paul, you know that that deal. I'm still
I'm still intrigued who they were, who they were negotiating,
(28:54):
what what other options spread had that prompted Houston to
spend as much as they did.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
So now that at all the dollars are spent? Whatever?
What what's the next column? What's the next podcast? Headge Scratchers,
Best Moves Lakers in twenty or just how much you're
going to gluttonize over the holiday weekend?
Speaker 5 (29:14):
Actually it's looks h dude, you know how it is.
I'm working this week. Bro. Oh yeah, I've got I've
got no time for gluttony. What I'm well, we're about
to hit free, We're about to hit the summer League.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
And yeah, Lakers And he'd played at three o'clock today, Rick,
you got to get out there for the game.
Speaker 5 (29:35):
Yeah yeah. And I'm curious to see like the hoop
law around some of these guys, particularly when Banana, Like,
I just we've set the bar so high for that kid,
and I think Kennan's try to do everything they can
to lower it and lower expectations this year. But between
(29:57):
two things between Scoot Henderson unless where Manana, but Scoot Henderson,
Brandon Miller, all the excitement over over some of the
American players and the fact that we just got our
clocks cleaned by by Turkey in uh in international basketball
with the what category it is in, but we got
(30:19):
beat going away by by Turkey. And we've talked about
this before about the the rest of the world not
catching not only catching up, but playing us, playing us,
even in passing us in some ways because of who
we're seeing compete for m VP and winning championships in
(30:40):
the NBA, Like, there's a bigger story there in terms
of where our American talent is and where our understanding
of the game is compared to the globe globally other teams,
and so who knows that that's kind of deep. I
don't know if I'm ready to take a deep, but
(31:00):
that will be appearing in the podcast very soon as.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Well, along with your definition of a tornado with the
hot hot air meeting the cold air and.
Speaker 5 (31:11):
The beard the beard in Madison Square Garden or actually
the beard not Madden Square and Madison Square Garden because
availability is always an issue. The beard on the sideline.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Suit up all right, and make sure Nicks's Big East
favorites this year all right, they should be able to
win it.
Speaker 5 (31:33):
You know who the coach is going to be the
former right right, they're right around the corner.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
He's just hanging outside of Madison Square Garden top. Timbolow
was going, what's going on. I'm just here to say hi,
Just here to say hi to some guys. Don't worry
about it.
Speaker 5 (31:50):
No, everything is fine, exactly, said Jim. Jim Dolan walks
in with Jay Wright and Tims is like, wait a minute, what.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Uh, take it easy, rit, Happy fourth of July. Man,
We'll talk to you soon, buddy. It's funny, you know
he talks about when Minyama and and obviously there's gonna
be a lot of it to look. Summer League begins today, right,
you know Lakers they play at three. Oh no, but that.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
Was the joke, right, yeah, it slows down now, right?
Speaker 2 (32:19):
No, not really, No, we get. We get because it's
kind of like the NBA with Summer League has kind
of become a bigger version of the NFL's mini camps,
where hey, we get the draft and then we think, okay,
we're going away until camp, but no, we get mini
camp as that last little bit and then they go
away for a month and they come back. And that's
kind of where it is with the NBA now where
we finish we have free agency. Oh, we get Summer
(32:41):
League and then they go away from You get that teaser, baby, Yeah,
you get a little bit. Yeah, you get to feed
the jones to see the guy in the new uniform.
As you say with when min Yama, they should do
everything they can. Have him go play a couple of
minutes and start running around like he's Philip so Seymour, Hoffman.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Rain Man. So you had a really bad five minutes
of play, So everybody gets there poison and vitrioll out,
and then you keep working them behind the scenes with
don't get in everybody to get him ready.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
See the thing I'm wondering with web min Yama is
this is if you remember, I mean you look you're
a Bulls fan. You remember when Jordan got hurt and
he broke his foot sure early in his career, and
when he came back, it was a case of where
the Bulls said, you are cleared to play six minutes
and a half and that's it. And he played like
six minutes and a half and then he came out
(33:31):
like and they would call timeouts to get him out
of the game.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Yeah, him down, Yep, we're not messing around now. And
then after a week it was okay, next week, seven
minutes he can play in a half, and then seven
and a half minutes.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
And eight minutes. They weren't going to do that to him, right,
seven minute abs, six minute abps and and that's how
they did it because they weren't going to mess around
with Jordan because of the asset they knew he was,
with Webbin Yama being seven to three and a half
and weighing two hundred and fifteen pounds, which you put
him on the on the lighter side of NBA players already.
I wonder if the best thing for the Spurs isn't
(34:04):
to say, listen, this is how we're gonna manage expectations.
He is going to play twenty minutes a game for
the beginning. That's it. Twenty minute. You're gonna play ten
minutes in the first half, ten minutes in the second half,
and that's it. We're not gonna We're not gonna turn
into Greg Odin, have him turned into a player where
we worry about his body or Zion Williamson. He needs
to ramp up into the riggers of the NBA. So
he is on a strict minutes restriction because we're about
(34:26):
the future. Fans would say, yes, if we'd love this, yes,
oh yes, no, don't mess around get them because they
know they're not gonna win the title this year, but
just having when Binyama is exciting enough for a little while.
And I wonder if that's not the best way to
go to say, these are the minutes you're gonna play
as your body gets used to the pounding, so you
don't wind up getting hurt and the soft tissue issues
happen and we can't stay on the floor. You need
(34:48):
to build up your your body and build up your
endurance so you can play. So here's a very strict
minutes restriction we're gonna have for basically the entirety of
your first year in the NBA.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
Yeah, games, limits, minutes restriction, all of those. Look, Summer
League is just like a giant teaser trailer, right, We're
not getting the full movie for a few months. But
here's a little bit to wet your appetite, to give
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in a changing face and a new guy to put
up on the billboards of the NBA. I mean it's brilliant, right,
I mean it's brilliant marketing, brilliant strategy. We'll see what
Papovich does with it.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
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for Fears? You think I could? You think I could?
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they showed up in my timeline yesterday, even with everything
else going on in Twitter. It was a hey, here's
the love from the garden where maybe they'll be there
to welcome James Harden.
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dot com. Slash Match one of the big moves in
free agency that happened this weekend. It was a really
big deal that happened late Saturday night. Uh, Demonta Sabonis
kind of gets paid. Yeah, five years, two hundred and
seventeen million dollar extension from the Kings in a free
(37:32):
agency this year where teams have kind of stayed the same, right,
I said, you know, nobody has made that big move.
Lillard is the one guy that can take a team
from hey, we're a contender to a title contender, or
an already a title contender to a title favorite. I
got news for you. The Kings are going to the finals.
(37:53):
Get you. The Kings are going to the fum Yeah,
they're gonna win fifteen games, and suddenly look at us
are in the lottery.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
We were rising, We had all these young guys. What
the hell happened?
Speaker 2 (38:05):
You look at the Western Conference and the Nuggets are
the champs. Likely, they'll get a bounce because everything went
right for them this year. Jamal Murray was healthy, Yokic
was healthy. Everything was They'll get a little bit of
a bounce. I still think they're going to in the
next five years, they'll make two more finals and win
at least one of them. But they're gonna get a
bit of a bounce this year because everything went their way.
(38:25):
They beat a lot of lower seeds on the way
to the NBA Finals. Things went their way, so they'll
get a little bit of moving back to the mean.
All the other teams in the West have issues. Right,
You think Memphis is is all set well, now we
have Marcus Smartin and Derek Rose to show the way
to John Morant. But who knows. The guy's missing the
first twenty five games. You don't know what how long
(38:47):
he's even be able to stay on the court. The
Lakers and made a bunch of moves, but they've basically
stayed the same. I like what they did, but they've
stayed the same. The Warriors got older. All the other
teams kind of have issues. The Kings are young. They
got the best offense in the league. They made a
couple of moves, you know, trade for Chris Duarte, which
is a pretty nice move. They got a lot of
(39:07):
guards on this team. They have a big move in
them coming where they're gonna address what they need. I
thought Kuzma would have been a perfect fit for them
in Sacramento. He's what they need. They need a guy
in the wing that can defend a little bit. But
they are young. They are terrific. They return of the
playoffs last year. Yeah, they fell victim a little bit.
To Hey, we haven't been here in a while. The Warriors,
(39:28):
we've been here every year it could have gone their way.
It didn't. But I'm telling you, the Kings are so talented,
they're deep. They're going to the NBA Finals this year.
We'll be talking about Mike Brown coaching in the NBA
Finals again. Oh, it's been a long time since Cleveland,
Mike and Lebron James. What's different for your career? Now?
Give me the Kings in the NBA Finals. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
I mean, they did make the decision to bring back
Harrison Barnes with a little bit of shuffling. That money
could have been spent to bring in Kuzma at the
same rate, or you could have come over the top
a little bit. So that that's one that a move
that might have gone elsewhere in their free agent shopping
as much as you wanted to keep some of this
(40:08):
core together. But who's to say that everything goes right
for them this year. I mean, if you're gonna if
we're gonna play that game right, everything went right for them.
Everything went right for the Nuggets both. They both could
have exactly what the rest of the Western Conference had
happened in twenty twenty two twenty three happened to them.
And I'm they're young, so you're not looking for the
(40:31):
injury bugs or whatever else. But you know, it all
went right for coach Mike Brown and the road opened up.
I'm excited to see it. I love the core that
they have there, and I'd be hard pressed to try
to elevate someone beyond the Nuggets, beyond the Kings. I'll
give you that.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
Well. Everything went right till they got to the playoffs.
It had to play the it had to play the Warriors.
This is where where.
Speaker 3 (40:55):
They they lost to a team that well, I mean,
you've thrown into the trash after they excised the guy
that they decided and they pinpointed in group thought as
the veteran thing tank and Mike Dunleavy Junior taking over
with Steve Kerr to say, hey, Jordan Poole is the
problem from a money standpoint, you know, as Rick Bucker explained, Vid.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
Was get older all and you could have gotten more
for Jordan Poole than to You got a thirty eight
year old Chris Paul and you traded away a first
and a second round pick. I mean, Jordan Poole, Okay,
if he's a problem in in in Golden State, I
get it. But he's got some value around the league
a little bit more than that. You having to say,
here's a guy and a couple of picks, and we're
getting a thirty eight year old Chris Pah.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
But you're you're forgetting you know, part of part of this,
and what makes some of these trades and moves great
is that they provide great content for us. Chris Paul
becoming a member of the Warriors is great for us.
So I am not gonna let you denigrate his career
and his aptitude at age thirty eight, he's a.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
Thirty Yes, you're looking at the back of his basketball car.
Doesn't happen? What minute tonight? When when's he gonna have
to play? When they get to the playoffs? Suddenly it's
gonna be Hey, I'm done, I'm done. That's what happens
to him. Every year. He plays well until he can't
play anymore because he's too tired and he's got too
much tread on.
Speaker 3 (42:18):
His tires, prosthing for you, what's gonna worry about.
Speaker 2 (42:23):
James Stop Stop, that's not stopped.
Speaker 3 (42:27):
Don't get on Twitter till it happens. You need all
the room possible.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
That's not you know, what's It's not science, it's not happening.
Hardened to the Clippers, Yes, harden to the Knicks. No, no,
not gonna. It's not and I and I I really
am upset that you guys keep trying to put that
out in the universe. It's upsetting me. It's not. No,
it's not. It's not.
Speaker 3 (42:46):
It's good for the game, and it's good for science.
That's a weather pattern we can get behind.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
It's been it's been a pretty big last half hour
with science. I'll tell you it's been something. Uh from
my gom Jason Happy for July. Colin Cowards up next,
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