July 3, 2023 • 43 mins
Jason Smith and Mike Harmon are in for Dan and the Danettes. Jason and Mike talk the latest on Damian Lillard. Longtime NLB Insider Jon Paul Morosi swings by for all the latest on the Dodgers, all-star game, latest from around the diamond. And no team is a James Harden away from winning a championship.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Greetings, then, welcome inside the Dan Patrick Show here on
Fox Sports Radio. Happy day before fourth of July. Jason
Smith Mike Harmon in for Dan and the Dan Nets today.
I mean, at least I think it's the day before
fourth of July. My Twitter limit is I can't I
can't refresh anymore to.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
See what day it is.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
So I'm gonna rely on just gonna fly blind. I think,
Mike for the rest of the show, Yes of the
day today.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
I think this is finally my notice to just move
on from Twitter. I'll get so much free time back,
you know. I'll be sitting at a doctor's office and
you scroll. You're waiting for dinner to finish, all right, scroll,
waiting for the kids as they finish a practice or
whatever you scroll. I don't have to do that anymore.
I can go find something else. All those shows that
(00:46):
I can binge watch off of the apps on my phone,
I can move on to that and maybe be slightly
more productive, you know.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
And that's the funny thing, because we got big NBA
stuff to get to. As we're waiting for Dame and
James Harten well, we're not really waiting for James Wait, well,
I'm waiting for Harden hoping he doesn't sign with my team.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
That's That's kind of what I'm meant. Stop, don't put
that out in the atmosphere.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Come on, it's a holiday weekend. I'm trying to give
you presents.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Man.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
No, no, no, I got I got Dante DiVincenzo. I
don't I don't need James Arden. I don't need James
Rden is underachieving self. I don't need that. But the
the whole thing I was thinking about this today last
night is that here's a big time with free agency
and Twitter and everything else going on, and this whole
Twitter limit thing goes on like right in the middle
of free agency.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Like I said, Hey, I wonder what happened.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
I went wait, wait wait, I can't wait wait wait,
I've been scrolling to try to find out who's signed
who or what's going on with Damian Lillard.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
What's going Wait? Now I can't anymore. I can't. I
can't do this. I keep scrolling.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
WHOA I mean, that is really bad for our business man,
like any sports fan, Wait, what do you mean?
Speaker 3 (01:51):
I can't scroll anymore? I can't.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
I can't. Oh, I want to see if my team
is winning. I can't follow the Mets because I can't.
I want to click too many times, because I'll click
too many No, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
I can't do it. It's really bad for our.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Business or for sports fans, where it's like I want
to get on and scroll and so we want to
see developing stories. And you know what's the same way
for politics too, is as developing stories happen, you want
to see news that goes on.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
But now it's like no, no, no, no, can't do it,
can't do it.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
I would say this the one thing that I appreciated
from it. Right we're on air on Friday, and then
as we get into the weekend, this chaos enzeus was
also a hey, you know, sometimes we could go backwards
without giving any spoilers. I went and saw Indiana Jones
last night. It hit the right spots for me. Felt
(02:37):
a little nostalgic, but you also got some fun where
you're like, all right, good, bad, ugly, you know, thinking
about past stuff. In this case, it was how did
we used to get information? Oh yeah, those old websites
that I used to traffic. I haven't been to you.
Let's dust you off a little bit. Let's dust you
off blogs. See what you've got for me as opposed
(03:00):
to you know, relying. I mean, and this is a
great lesson, I think. And you know, we had it
in the pandemic, and you had all of these things
where you just sometimes have to go back to basics.
Some of the creature comforts, some of the things you're
used to and conveniences went away during that process. Do
we ever want to relive anything like it? Hell no,
(03:20):
but from a digital standpoint for a moment, you know,
just going back and taking the hourglass and flipping it
over and going back onto websites and blogs and trying
to do prep for the show I did yesterday with
Dan Byer and reading the latest. Yeah, it was a
bit of a throwback as opposed to the crutch that
Twitter has become.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
All right, now, well, I appreciate your holiday rediplayer one.
Let's just go backwards, I get, but no, no, no,
I'm getting stuff up to the moment now.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
I'm not going back to anything else less than that.
I don't want that.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
The other stuff is given a moment as well.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
I don't want to wait fifteen minutes for a website
to have something I needed when I needed fifteen minutes before. No, no, no,
I'm I'm used to a certain style. I'm used to
a certain things. I'm used to comforts of Oh, I
can get on, I can get this. I don't want
to go back. I don't want to go back. It's
like if I had if I had a car that
had the best air conditioning in the world, and I'm
driving around it, that's great, but they decided, hey, you
(04:18):
know what, because for some reason for chloro floral carbons
or there's a free on shortage, I don't know, and
then something they say, it's, oh, hey, guess what all
the new cars now, Yeah, the air conditioning's not gonna easy.
We're gonna go back to what it was like when
you had to roll the windows down. No, no, I
don't want to do that. No, I'm not gonna do that.
I feel like that's and that's the step we're going
here with Twitter.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
How much should I save on that car?
Speaker 3 (04:38):
I don't want to go back.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
In today's car market, that might not actually be the
worst thing. You try to price a used car lately,
try to look at a new car I mean, it's
not a pretty world out there. But but to your point, yeah,
I know I'm not I'm not saying I want everything
rolled back. You know, the old you know, the good
old days are aren't always good tomorrow. And as bad
(05:02):
as it seems to go. Steal from our guy William Joel,
the great philosopher out of New York, but it is
to me from the Twitter side, the immediacy and the
I've got to constantly keep strolling because with what we
do for a living. Jason, you could speak to this,
you know Jonas who was just in here Frostburg, you
(05:23):
know Nick on the updates with us, like all of that, Like, yeah,
we wanted immediately because especially when we're in our window
and it's about time to yell, or in the hours
proceeding as we're prepping. But when I'm out and out
and about, I like the idea of you know what,
I've got my rate limit exceeded. I don't need to
think about Twitter for a little while. Although it annoyed
(05:44):
me on Saturday because I was trying to post about
money in the bank. I was fired up with all
the twists to turn the return of John Cena.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
So the jo see you wanted to post and you
couldn't now.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
And you know what, I got over in about thirty
five seconds. I guess that's not working today. How much
just sit back and enjoy the show.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
How many times can I check Twitter this morning now
to find out if Damian Lillard has been signed to
trade it somewhere?
Speaker 3 (06:05):
How many times I don't want to not be able
to click on it?
Speaker 5 (06:08):
Like?
Speaker 3 (06:08):
How many? How many times?
Speaker 5 (06:09):
Like?
Speaker 3 (06:09):
How many stories could I scroll by that? Oh no, no,
I'm gonna hit my limit. I can't do it. You
can't do it.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Funny, you know, they make sure we've got to have
an intervention for you on the addiction of Twitter. Okay,
I because we can't, because I remember, you can get
got by the insiders. Remember before the draft? Yeah, a
lot of better. There's a lot of us in the media.
We got got because of a certain insider who works
for a sports book who put out a bad tweet
(06:34):
and screwed everything up. So you can't believe Twitter, even
the guys that are supposed to be your most trusted
best friends, they screwed you over to you.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
But I feel like I can aggregate pretty well, and
I get when something's wrong.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
You don't want to go into the aggregation business.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
I want to think, I understand. I don't want to.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
I don't want to be ninety minutes by Hey, you know,
Damian Lillard just got traded to the next went. It
happened like three hours ago, but I seeded my Twitter
limits so I couldn't get it. Uh So we probably
to click on Twitter and and uh and and figure
out so you know, if anything happens during the window
here on the show. But Jason Smith, Mike Harmon in
for Dan and the Dan that's today as NBA free
(07:11):
agency rolls through. This is why there's so much attention
on Damian Lillard. And first of all, I'm extremely happy
because I'm just so happy that finally Damian Lillard said
something I can't tell you. For the last three years, Mike,
every offseason has been the same. It's all, if only
Dame could get to a better team off only get there.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Oh, Damian Lillard's not happy. How do we know?
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Not from Damian Lillard, but we know from other people,
and he wants some changes made and then nothing happens
and Damian Lillard goes back. So it couldn't have been
all that bad. Nope, but then I'm gonna going back. Oh,
same thing again. Uh the two years ago. Oh, Damian
Lillard might not be happy. Oh they should trade him,
he should want and he says nothing throughout the entire time.
Then it's all he really wants Jason Kidd as his coach.
Oh he's unhappy. Oh maybe he's not gonna stay.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
And he stays. And this year, you know me, we
talked about this. I'm done.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Like you say you want out or that's it, or
you stay in Portland forever, right, because every year is
the same thing. You threaten like you might quit. You're
kind of like Russell from Almost Famous, Oh I might leave.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
You don't want to.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
You just hang that over ahead that you might leave,
that you might. So either stay your staying or you
want out. And when we got the statement Damian Lillard
wants out and he said I want out and the
Blazers say, we'll try to accommodate. I was like, thank you.
At least now we know. At least now he's finally said, oh, hey,
I want out. And you know he was upset about
(08:30):
doing it because he's going back and forth and trolls
on Twitter who were saying, Oh, Damie Lillard screwed over
the fans and everything.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
What do you mean? What did I do? What did
I do?
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Dude can't stay away from social media, so you know
that he was on, didn't want to do it, and finally,
three years after it was he probably should have gone
in the first place, he finally said he's out. So
now we're gonna get a resolution. At least I hope
we're getting a resolution, because right now nothing's happened, and
we don't know where he's gonna wind up going. He's
got preferential destinations.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
The heaters is.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
His number one place to go, and I'm hoping it
happens and it's not just a whole bunch of weeks.
So like Kevin Durant with a nets where I want out, Well,
there's no trade and now suddenly, okay, I'm back playing.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
So I'm hoping at some point, but I'm just glad that.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Now it looks like this Damian Lillard, this cycle that
we keep repeating over and over and over. Now it's
over and now he wants out and now he'll be
a difference maker or someplace else.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
He took to Twitter, this is one that came through
on my account Smith quote, it's in my blood to
take the high road. I'd love to hear what fans
are turning on. Have I misled them? Or anyone? Fill
me in? Well, you had. He always had plausible deniability
because everything was back channeled and anonymous of his level
(09:42):
of contentedness with the organization, et cetera. Even going back
to last week, right as it was all right, if
they can put together moves to make this thing work,
they go and give Jeremy Grant, this grant giant contract.
Is that ain't dry? Or is he gonna get spun
off now? Because they're on There's a lot that still
(10:02):
rolls on with Portland. If Dame gets traded, does Grant
follow him back out the door? I mean, did he
sign a good faith or did he? Or did Dame
get his guy the bag and the biggest bag he
could get before saying, hey, I'm done, congratulations, Jeremy, I
took car of you. I'm out right. I mean, it's
all of that, but you know too, for Lillard, yeah,
(10:24):
I mean we've always heard the rumblings, but the outward
statement was of loyalty, the love of Portland, whatever, and
some fans will decide it's done. Look, it's the natural
life cycle of a superstar in today's day and age
because of what you've seen so many others do, what
they've achieved, how they're perceived, et cetera. And loyalty is
(10:48):
a tricky word right in terms of what had they
done to put you in the best position to win?
For him, by finally this going public in him deciding
he wants out, well now changes the math and changes
the poker on him. Now there's expectations because it was
always dame in Portland. He can take him as far
as he could take him, and it's never gonna be
(11:09):
seen as a failure. It's gonna be oh, did you
see what he did with that undermanned Portland squad. So
just so he's recognizing the rules of engagement for him
and how the poison pens will be administered changed quite
a bit.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Now.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
The reason that that he's he's such a big deal
and like everything's about Damian Lillard is because look at
what we've seen in free agency so far is that
we've seen a lot of okay, Like that's kind of
what it is. We've seen a lot of okay, like
what the what did the Lakers do? I like what
the Lakers did. We'll get to that. But the Lakers
basically brought everybody back, and they added Gabe Vincent. Okay,
(11:47):
you know, the Knicks brought everybody back. They basically traded
Obie Topping for Dante DiVincenzo. The Golden State Warriors brought
Draymond Green back.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Right.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
The biggest names in free agency, Kyle Kuzma's staying with Washington, okay,
and Fred Van Vliet goes to Houston. No moves have
happened by themselves that have been Hey, guess what, now
You're a complete bleeping title contender.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
Right.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
None of that's happened a lot. There's been a lot
of let's stay the same, let's grow what we have,
and I think that might be enough that another year
of everybody playing together for longer is gonna work. The
Lakers thinking, hey, let's have a whole season of our guys,
because when they played together the last half of the
year after the trade deadline, we were pretty good.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
There's been a lot of kind of okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Lillard's the one guy that can flip the script, that
can take a team and go, Hey, this team's pretty
good and now, hey, maybe now we can win the title.
And that's why there's so much attention to it. That's
why James Harden not a really kid. James Harden's a
big name, and wherever he winds up going, hopefully it's
not my team, wherever he winds up going, it'll be
a big headline.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
It'll be.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
But is he really going to impact the game as
much and his team as much? Because you've seen the
last two places he's been at. They haven't won, nevin't
come close to winning. But yeah, James Harden is still
great now. James Harden is kind of a guy. Now,
he's really good one out of every four games. But
Lillard is still young enough, gonna be thirty three, He's
got probably three ish years left to be the guy
he is. He's the guy that's gonna take a team
(13:13):
from Hey, we're feeling pretty good about ourselves too.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Well.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Now we're at the top, we're in the top five
NBA title odds now because we add this guy. That's
why there's so much attention on him. And the big
question is gonna be, Hey, is Portland gonna be really pissed?
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Are they gonna be.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Are they gonna say, hey, you've been so great for us, Damian,
we really appreciate what you've done. And wherever you want
to go, you tell us, we'll make that deal happen.
You want to go to the Heat, we'll send you
the Heat. Or is Portland gonna say screw you, man,
you want we're taking the best deal. I don't care
if that's with Houston or I don't care if that's
with the Pacers or the Pistons.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
That's where we're going. So you know what, good luck
you want to trade final.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
That's gonna be the big thing, because you know, looking
at all this, I want to go.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
To the Heat. I want to go here. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
I don't know, man, I don't think the Blazers are
gonna suddenly just go say, yeah, Dave, you know you've
been so great. We're gona we're gonna send you this
parting gift out the door. I don't see that happening.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Yeah, I mean they've already made that statement, right, it's
we got to look out for the organization. We love you.
But all right, this is where we're at, so just
real quickly, Yeah, the heats odd change from fourteen to one,
to nine to one or ten to one, depending on
the book that you're at. And to your point about
reloading last couple of title teams, we were teams that
had built internally and grown. You look at Milwaukee, what
(14:28):
they did and what their decisions were this offseason, right,
and bring back Lopez? He was gonna be a mid
level guy. Not so fast. Here's twenty four million dollars
a year and Chris Middleton and then you have Denver
so losing Bruce Brown. We'll see what that does. Rotation was,
but yeah, to your point, it's all about continuity. Maybe
the change, the the worm is turned, as it were,
(14:49):
Jason Smith telling.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
You man, this is gonna be really interesting. Wait a minute,
I'm with the Pistons now. Oh, that's not where I
wanted to go.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
I did not want to No, we're gonna win twenty games.
Oh I'm wait. I mean I'm in Washington with Kyle
My goodness, that's not gonna be any good.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Oh, Twitter at how about a fresca Mike gets swollen dome.
The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon is our show
at night. We're in for Dan and the Dan Ds today.
So more on Damian Lillard, James Harden and all the
big news and NBA free agency. But coming up next,
John Paul Morosi stops by MLB Network Insider. We got
the all star rosters, we got the snubs. We have
(15:30):
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Speaker 3 (17:38):
How are you?
Speaker 5 (17:39):
Good morning, gentlemen, Happy fourth of July week, Happy Canada
Day to our listeners north of the forty ninth parallel
as well, and great too with you today.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
So have you exceeded your Twitter limits? Are you gonna
be able to tweet breaking news if someone gets traded?
Or are you gonna wind up up against the wallide
have nowhere to put it out?
Speaker 5 (18:02):
That's a great question. I'm currently evaluating how I'm going
to handle this. It's probably gonna be one of the
great trade deadline matchups of twenty twenty three. It's not
just the Dodgers versus the Giants, or the Yankees versus
the Red Sox. It's the MLB insiders versus the Twitter rules,
(18:24):
and so we will try to find a way to
disseminate our our news through whichever linear channels social media
platforms may exist. But I suppose this is true. When
I woke up at the Winter meetings in December and
had the Aaron Judge story and wanted to share it.
(18:45):
I shared it on Twitter, so I have to to
thank Twitter for that. But now after reflect on how
my routines may perhaps evolve in due.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Time, Borg and sandwich boards.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Yeah, no white smoke just like a new pope, Hey
is a white while coming from a Rosie's house. There
must be just be a trade.
Speaker 5 (19:03):
I'll say this, I am, I am as I give
this public service announcement to all of us here on
the fourth of July week. I am a fan of
the handwritten note. Now, the handwritten note is not necessarily
the best way to break news because it does take
some time to be shared, but I do believe in
both the very rapid communication of Twitter news, which listen,
(19:28):
I've very much enjoyed for more than a decade. But
I also believe in the simple joy of sitting down
to write a letter and mail it from the post office.
That is one of the coolest things I think that
we've got going in twenty twenty three.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
Still really cheap. As much as people complain about that.
Speaker 5 (19:47):
I had that conversation with my brother the other day.
You can put you can if you're in Augusta, Maine
on this beautiful morning. If you're in Augusta, Maine and
you want to share a note with someone Honolulu, it'll
cost you less than a dollar, and someone's gonna actually
pick it up from you in Augusta, Maine and take
(20:07):
it to Honolulu for less than a dollar.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
What a deal that is.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
Now, that's it. If I were to tell you could
take that note and send it to Honolulu this morning,
who would be the list of top snubs and guys
that got jobbed based on great first half performances in
Major League Baseball?
Speaker 5 (20:23):
Well, and I appreciate the question, very creatively constructed, Mike,
as you always do. And what I would say is
we do in its own way. The snub conversation is
its own form of recognition. Sure, so if you are
the player that maybe barely gets onto the team, you
(20:44):
probably get celebrated on shows like this less than the
guys who should have been named and worked. And so
thus I begin by recitation. I believe that Wander Franco
should be an All Star. I believe that George Kirby
of the Seattle Mariners should be an All Star. And
for sheer entertainment value and also performance, albeit in a
(21:09):
small sample size. Elie de la Cruz needs to be
in this game. I know he's only been there for
the last several weeks, but my goodness, has he been
fun to watch the way in which he has arrived
with a flourish It's for the cycle, starring all over
the diamond for the Cincinnati Reds, a first place team.
I believe that Elie dela Cruz, or if you want
(21:31):
to also make the case for his fellow rookie Matt McClain,
I think it's another great choice. So I'm a big
believer that the Reds are underrepresented, as are the Diamondbacks
that they Yes, they do have three all stars there
in Corbyn Carroll, Zach Gallon and lordes Guriel Junior, but
I believe they could easily have a fourth in Katel
(21:54):
Marte Telly JP.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
We talked about it last week, the phrase Ellie de
la Cruz n L MVP, watch out, watch out. Yeah,
everybody loves Ronald Lacunya every because every day I get
Ronald Leucunya is only eighty five home runs and forty
five doles base away from being the first one hundred
hundred guy in baseball. I get people like him, but
Ellie did. He's got that it factor and the Reds
(22:18):
and the story cuts through the clutter. Watch out Ellie
de la Cruz.
Speaker 5 (22:22):
I agree and listen, it's certainly going to be a
challenge for him to make up all of the numbers.
And when you think about Acunya will have six months
of baseball and Ellie will have four by the end
of it, And so how great do those four months
have to be to override what Ronald has done in
six months. That's going to be a tough task. But
(22:45):
as someone who's been a voter, I certainly believe that
Ellie could get votes on a lot of ballots. And
part of the reason is if the Reds win the division,
he has to be one of the big reasons why.
You could also argue Matt McClain as I mentioned earlier,
but a couple of rookies have changed this entire team.
(23:07):
De la Cruz and McLain. You've got a credit Nick
Krawl for the work that he's done in bringing in
names like Jake Fraley. TJ. Friedel was an undrafted free agent,
so it really is a unique and un heralded roster.
And now I would say a storyline for all of
us to watch across Major League Baseball in the next
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several weeks is how winnable both Central divisions are. And
it may well be that as we see the teams
approach the August first trade deadline, the teams that make
the big splash are those that win each of those divisions,
the AL Central and the NL Central.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
So with all of that rolling on, let's come out
to the NL West and the Los Angeles Dodgers giving
a couple of games away this weekend to the Royals.
And while panic is ensuing in the streets of Los
Angeles JP, how do you calm them down? Or what
needs to happen to allay their fears as they gluttonize
(24:09):
this holiday weekend?
Speaker 5 (24:11):
They need to trade for a starting pitcher. And I
know that that question well suggested by our man Justin Frossberg,
but I think that we've got we've got to find
some answers for this Dodgers pitching staff. They lost Saturday's
game started by Julio Urrias, and they started Sunday. They
lost Sunday's game started by Tony Gonsolin. This is not
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the same rotation that got them to and through a
World Series championship in twenty twenty. They're just not that deep.
This is to me, and we talked a lot this
time of year about NBA free agency and trades. This
is like an NBA star driven team with a handful
(24:54):
of stars but not a lot of depth. They've got
four All Star physician players Bets Freeman, JD. Martinez, and
Will Smith, but the second half of the lineup is
not as deep as it was when you had Jock
Peterson in his prime and Key k Hernandez in his prime.
They missed Justin Turner. It's not the same group. And
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I think pitching wise, Clayton Kershaw's an All Star, but
by now there should be one or two of the
younger guys who are as reliable as Clayton, if not
as great as Clayton, but just reliable as him. And
that next generation has fallen a little bit short. It's
still a really good team, still a playoffs team in
(25:38):
my estimation. But when you're in Los Angeles, the standard
is are you a World Series contender? Are you able
to match what the team did in twenty twenty or
by making it to the World Series as they did
in twenty seventeen, and guys, I just do not see
at the moment the same level of depth on the
twenty twenty three Dodgers that I did in twenty seventeen,
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twenty eighteen, or twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Well, I'm glad you bring this up, JP, because I
think this is where you can say something and I
can say something. We can help everybody out because I've
been given permission to negotiate this trade. I know the
Dodgers have ninety million dollars lying around, so I can
make sure I can deliver them justin Verlander.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
And Max Schurzer.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
I will.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
If they have that munchy, I can deliver them.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
I can get them to the airport and get them
to Los Angeles, get them out from under the disappointing Mets,
and I can get them there and everybody's problems are solved.
Speaker 5 (26:32):
Wow, I'm gonna save you the phone call and say
that on behalf of Andrew Friedman and the Los Angeles Dodgers.
My response is no, thanks, no thanks. There's just not
the production of that of the of that duo is
not matching the amount on their paychecks and while Verlander
(26:55):
was much better last time out, we just haven't seen
collectively what we need to see from the Mets. Who
would have thought, by the way, that after all the
spending of the offseason and almost getting Carlos Korea as well,
that the Mets would have one All Star one and
that All Star would be Pete Alonso selected by Major
(27:16):
League Baseball. Think about that, not a single fan or
player elected All Star on the roster, and it's Pete Alonso,
who certainly will be there to also compete in his event,
the home run Derby. So it is a it is
a startling change, and Jason, as you know, Mets fans
(27:37):
are not the kind to just say, Okay, well, maybe
it's not gonna work this year. We'll just check back
with you next offseason, and until then we're just going
to relax and focus on the Jets. That's not what's
happening here. There's gonna be a lot of conversation, Jason,
right now about about this team, as you well know,
(27:59):
and there's not a lot of alternatives. I still think
that you may see some front office changes after the
season is over, and you may even see some roster
changes before the trade deadline. We've heard, at least based
on public commentary, Steve Cohen is much more open minded
than his Podres counterpart Peter Sidler. The changing course in
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the coming weeks oheat of the trade.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
Deadline got the Padres in there because they're the other
West Coast large failure, I guess, would be the kind
way to put it. JP. What can they do or
will they do? Or they just say, hey, we've got
the bats. Eventually they wake up and we can push
ahead here. Or are they doomed for a failure of
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a season after spending as well?
Speaker 5 (28:46):
Well, I think they are doomed. I really do believe
that for this season. It's not doomed in the big picture,
but I do believe for the purposes of winning a
World Series in twenty twenty three. Again, this is where
I take step back in the trade deadline, and it's
important to judge every team based on the preseason spending
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and expectations, and both the Padres and the Mets were
supposedly all in it to win it this year, the
World Series period, and it's so interesting and I think
we will be seeing a change in this perhaps in
the offseason coming up now. Obviously showy Otani is probably
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in a separate category. But you see the way the
Mets have struggled, You see the way the Padres have struggled,
and even the Yankees to an extent, although it's not
Aaron Judge's fault, he's just been on the injured list,
and you start to wonder to yourself, is this really
the best half for a team to spend that much?
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The Padres, to me, while Peter Sitherers said that they
don't anticipate a dramatic change, of course, if they're still
five or six games under five hundred at the deadline,
don't you have to move Josh Haterer, don't you have
to move Blake Snell rather than risk losing them for nothing.
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I just think for me, it's a very clear plan
that at least the guys that are on expiring contracts,
you can trade them without changing the fundamental course of
the franchise. The franchise changing path would be trading one Soto,
which I don't think they're ready to do yet, but
objectively they should probably be considering, because let's take the
(30:35):
big picture look at this. The Nationals traded him a
year ago because they didn't have him signed long term
guests who still doesn't have him signed long term the Padres,
and so unless that changes, the fundamental underlying reason for
why he became a Padre in the first place still
(30:57):
exists as a potential motivating element to consider moving Juan
Soto somewhere else. So, while the Padres don't seem ready
to make moves yet, to me, gentlemen, it is an
inevitability that teams will be calling them about Hater and Snell,
and my recommendation would be that they should listen.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
All right, JP, So those are the disappointing teams, right,
those are the teams you're kind of selling on who
you buy it on for the second half of the season.
Speaker 5 (31:24):
The Reds are a good ball club, they really are,
and they're a team that probably needs a little bit
more starting pitching. I think the Orioles probably need the same.
But in general, I love stories of emerging teams that
have done it the right way. The Baltimore Orioles are
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gonna be well represented both of the All Star Game
and the Futures Game. They have one of the very
best farm systems in the entire sport. We've already seen
a number of their players most recently Westburg show up
to the major leagues and make an impact. I really
like the way they've built their team, and while it
may be a challenge for them to catch up to
(32:05):
the Rays in the regular season, they may well be
And feel free to clip this off justin and keep
it for October. The Orioles may be a better playoff
team than the Rays because of their dominant bullpen, So
I like that team. With one more starting pitcher, The
Baltimore Ools, for me, could make a lot of noise
(32:27):
in the American League playoffs this year, and then I
think out west I also like the Diamondbacks. Corbyn Carroll.
What a great story he's going to be getting to
start in his hometown of Seattle. At the All Star Game,
I mentioned Totel Marte, Lordescuriel Junior. Really well constructed roster
there by Mike Hazen and ami Al Sade their top
baseball officials. So well done by the Diamondbacks, the Reds,
(32:50):
what a great story they are. We talked about Laedlit
cruising Matt McLain earlier, and then the Orioles as well.
Very much a homegrown basis. So those three teams I
believe we will all see that in the postseason.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
You can FA on Twitter at John Morosi, that is
at John Morosi MLB Network Insider JP. As always, buddy,
appreciate it. Happy fourth. We'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 5 (33:11):
Sounds great, and I will let you know if and
when there's an Alex to brink It trade in the NHL,
we'll talk about that as well.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
See you, buddy, have fun. All right, there goes John
Paul Morosi.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
I got I'll give you a big bull prediction, Mike,
because the look those teams are all very good. We
see we've seen the Reds and the Orioles. It's like
the seventies again. The Reds are good, the Orioles are good.
The Dodgers are good. You know, it's kind of fun.
The Yankees are somewhat good. The Blue Jays, Yeah, it's
kind of fun seeing that happen. But I'll tell you what,
the Orioles are gonna win the Al East. I mean
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everything the Rays have done so far this season. They
were the best team for the first you know, eighty
games of the or the first seventy games of the
year by far. Knowing way they jumped out to a lead.
Everything was raised raised. Look at their run different it's
plus one fifty seven everything they did, and the Orioles
are three games back everything they did. And that's where
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the Orioles are. O's are gonna win this division. They're
gonna they're gonna come up in the second half and
you're gonna see them pull away because it's all their
young talent all coming through. They are this good. They
are built for the every day. We're not gonna get
too high, get too low. For young team to go
out and win machine like like they do. That's pretty
interesting and that's that's a mark of a really good
(34:29):
team that's getting good way before it's supposed.
Speaker 4 (34:31):
To fifteen to one to win the al Pennant.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
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for Damian Lillard and again we're gonna refresh on Twitter
when we can. I don't want to hit my limits,
so I can't tell you what happens. Uh, waiting for
Damian Lillard. But the other player we are waiting for
an NBA free agency is he worth it?
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So coming up in a few minutes, we'll get into
what the Lakers have done in free agency. I believe
they signed eleven more players in the last five minutes.
I can't refresh on Twitter, so I can't really check
like I used to. But we're waiting for two big
dominoes to fall in free agency. We're waiting for Damian Lillard,
we talked about that earlier in this hour. And we're
(36:48):
waiting for James Harden, which honestly is more of a
headline than it is a huge deal, because, first of all,
I don't know that any team really is a James
Hardened away from anything, not this version of James Harden.
And when you throw in the agent Woljerarowski report from
yesterday that the Sixers are drawing a line in the
(37:09):
sand and they want a big return for James Harden, Like,
how long is this gonna take to play out? It
could go out into Summer League and maybe into the
fall with moving James Harden. But I don't get where
suddenly Harden is so desirous, Like it's not like he
helped bring the Sixers to the conference finals last year
(37:31):
and they fell a step short of winning the NBA Championship,
and boy, we got to bring this back with with
James Harden or another team says, boy, we gotta go
get James Harden and and make sure because he's a
missing piece. You've watched him the last two places, he's
been not be the same dynamic player he was James
Harden one out of every four games in the playoffs,
(37:51):
like what we're used to him from. He's kind of
he's kind of a really good role player now, right,
he's kind of a really good support but I should
say real players. He's kind of a good support player. Right,
guy's gonna start play a ton of minutes, but in
the end, he hasn't. He didn't elevate the nets to
anything they had to move on. He didn't really elevate
the Sixers because where were they the lost of the
(38:12):
second round like they do every single year. They didn't
elevate the Sixers. It's a very difficult time for me
to say, yeah, I want to go all in and
get James Harden, especially when the Sixers want a lot
in return. Seriously, you want a lot in return for
this guy. Wait, so how is this gonna actually happen?
I don't see it. I don't see teams saying yes,
(38:33):
team's doing it for Damian Lillard one hundred percent. Absolutely.
I know Harden did shoot pretty well from deep last year,
but he's scoring twenty twenty a game now. I mean,
there's ninety guys in the NBA that scored twenty a game.
He's not that dominant thirty a game score that he was.
Where now I can affect everything. I mean, you've seen
teams that brought him in to be the missing piece,
and what happens. One team got broken up and now
(38:55):
another team is looking to move on from him. So
I really I don't get the love for James hard
It's more like people looking at the back of his
basketball card going wow, man, he's been really really good.
Speaker 3 (39:05):
Let's go make a trade for him.
Speaker 4 (39:07):
It's funny, we're just actually talking about some cards here
in the studio as we get rolling here on a
holiday holiday holiday weekend, a lot of sorting from me
and looking at the back back of cards, including a
guy like Harden twenty one a game forty four percent
from the field did hit well from three point range,
six rebounds and four straight years of at least ten
(39:27):
assists can still fill up the box score. And you
know my favorite Toby Keith song, now that he's performing again,
we can talk about it. Not as good as I
once was, but I'm as good once as I ever was.
That you're hoping you have more of those than not.
And if he goes to the right situation where you've
got other superstars who step forward when he doesn't have
(39:48):
a thirty five point night in him, then it all works.
But when he scores nine when you need him most,
and goes Randy Van Warmer, look it up, kids, and
the game leaves you when you need it, and he's
not shooting the ball effectively or at all right nine
field goal attempts as they're ousted, that it fails. I
(40:10):
know you're trying to do the best you can buy
embiids so as to not get him salt because remember
you eventually had to part ways with Ben Simmons. You
got better than you probably should have since he's not
finding a court anytime soon. But as you're watching parts,
he eventually he's the guy next guy that raised his hand,
and he's usually pretty outspoken to say, what am I
(40:31):
even doing here anymore? So I get you're trying to
do a solid by him. But in the interim, you know,
what's the marketplace? Look like you've got an expiring contracts.
So whoever's bringing him on? Is he a piece? He's
a rental player now, right, because he's gonna want a
three or four year deal as part of all of
(40:51):
these negotiations and the flow of the information, right, that's
gonna be the demand on his side and the don't
want to be left hold in the bag when you
were in theory so close to the endgame.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
No, and I'm putting it out no no, no for
my team. No no, no, no, no no no, James Harden,
no stop stop doing that. Come on, no no, no,
Look at listen.
Speaker 4 (41:17):
We mean, I know he didn't go to Yukon, but
it's okay.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
It does it doesn't, It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.
Yukon Villanova. We'll get everybody. We'll get everybody. Uh no, no,
I you know Damian Lillard. Great, we can make that move. Yeah,
we got some flexibility.
Speaker 3 (41:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
No, James Harden, No, I'm not putting it out there
in the atmosphere. I'm not putting it out there. You're
trying to put it out there. No, no, on James Harden.
Every time, it's not really. No, it's not it's not really.
You know, you're trying to make it happen. You're trying
to make it evaporate and come out of Thinn. No,
it's not happening.
Speaker 3 (41:48):
No, I'm not doing it.
Speaker 4 (41:48):
It's okay, No, no, no, no, Look, well he can
be an honorary Villanova guy.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
No, okay, no, because the only thing where I could say,
well it would be is if they trade Juliet's randall
and it's not gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (42:04):
I don't want James Harden.
Speaker 4 (42:05):
Yeah, the salaries matchup. See, I mean you could put
it into the trade evaluator and it's gonna It's a
nice easy solution right there for you. You get rid
of a guy that's been vexing you for the next one.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
Now, look, I get that's how the Knicks probably used
to do things. Should we make this trade, I don't know.
Let's put it in the trade calculator and see how
it comes out.
Speaker 3 (42:25):
Oh no, we need more.
Speaker 2 (42:26):
It's like a fantasy trade. Oh no, no, no, I
need more. I put it in the trade machine. It
says I need more from you.
Speaker 3 (42:31):
I can't just take this.
Speaker 4 (42:31):
It's more just the psychological side of it for this point,
when you start bringing hardened in, I mean, I.
Speaker 3 (42:38):
Get that's how it, but no, no, stop doing it.
Stop whatever mind games you're trying to play right now,
just stop it. It's not he's not going.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
Let's push him with the clippers. I'll push him the
clippers for you. That's fine because him and Paul George.
Oh I want to see that that. I want to
see him.
Speaker 4 (42:56):
Let's do it again.
Speaker 2 (42:59):
What about the Lakers? What about other big moves in
free agency? We got it for you next right here,
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You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Greetings, then, welcome inside the Dan Patrick Show here on
Fox Sports Radio. Happy day before fourth of July. Jason
Smith Mike Harmon in for Dan and the Dan Nets today.
I mean, at least I think it's the day before
fourth of July. My Twitter limit is I can't I
can't refresh anymore to.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
See what day it is.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
So I'm gonna rely on just gonna fly blind. I think,
Mike for the rest of the show, Yes of the
day today.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
I think this is finally my notice to just move
on from Twitter. I'll get so much free time back,
you know. I'll be sitting at a doctor's office and
you scroll. You're waiting for dinner to finish, all right, scroll,
waiting for the kids as they finish a practice or
whatever you scroll. I don't have to do that anymore.
I can go find something else. All those shows that
(00:46):
I can binge watch off of the apps on my phone,
I can move on to that and maybe be slightly
more productive, you know.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
And that's the funny thing, because we got big NBA
stuff to get to. As we're waiting for Dame and
James Harten well, we're not really waiting for James Wait, well,
I'm waiting for Harden hoping he doesn't sign with my team.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
That's That's kind of what I'm meant. Stop, don't put
that out in the atmosphere.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Come on, it's a holiday weekend. I'm trying to give
you presents.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Man.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
No, no, no, I got I got Dante DiVincenzo. I
don't I don't need James Arden. I don't need James
Rden is underachieving self. I don't need that. But the
the whole thing I was thinking about this today last
night is that here's a big time with free agency
and Twitter and everything else going on, and this whole
Twitter limit thing goes on like right in the middle
of free agency.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Like I said, Hey, I wonder what happened.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
I went wait, wait wait, I can't wait wait wait,
I've been scrolling to try to find out who's signed
who or what's going on with Damian Lillard.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
What's going Wait? Now I can't anymore. I can't. I
can't do this. I keep scrolling.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
WHOA I mean, that is really bad for our business man,
like any sports fan, Wait, what do you mean?
Speaker 3 (01:51):
I can't scroll anymore? I can't.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
I can't. Oh, I want to see if my team
is winning. I can't follow the Mets because I can't.
I want to click too many times, because I'll click
too many No, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
I can't do it. It's really bad for our.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Business or for sports fans, where it's like I want
to get on and scroll and so we want to
see developing stories. And you know what's the same way
for politics too, is as developing stories happen, you want
to see news that goes on.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
But now it's like no, no, no, no, can't do it,
can't do it.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
I would say this the one thing that I appreciated
from it. Right we're on air on Friday, and then
as we get into the weekend, this chaos enzeus was
also a hey, you know, sometimes we could go backwards
without giving any spoilers. I went and saw Indiana Jones
last night. It hit the right spots for me. Felt
(02:37):
a little nostalgic, but you also got some fun where
you're like, all right, good, bad, ugly, you know, thinking
about past stuff. In this case, it was how did
we used to get information? Oh yeah, those old websites
that I used to traffic. I haven't been to you.
Let's dust you off a little bit. Let's dust you
off blogs. See what you've got for me as opposed
(03:00):
to you know, relying. I mean, and this is a
great lesson, I think. And you know, we had it
in the pandemic, and you had all of these things
where you just sometimes have to go back to basics.
Some of the creature comforts, some of the things you're
used to and conveniences went away during that process. Do
we ever want to relive anything like it? Hell no,
(03:20):
but from a digital standpoint for a moment, you know,
just going back and taking the hourglass and flipping it
over and going back onto websites and blogs and trying
to do prep for the show I did yesterday with
Dan Byer and reading the latest. Yeah, it was a
bit of a throwback as opposed to the crutch that
Twitter has become.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
All right, now, well, I appreciate your holiday rediplayer one.
Let's just go backwards, I get, but no, no, no,
I'm getting stuff up to the moment now.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
I'm not going back to anything else less than that.
I don't want that.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
The other stuff is given a moment as well.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
I don't want to wait fifteen minutes for a website
to have something I needed when I needed fifteen minutes before. No, no, no,
I'm I'm used to a certain style. I'm used to
a certain things. I'm used to comforts of Oh, I
can get on, I can get this. I don't want
to go back. I don't want to go back. It's
like if I had if I had a car that
had the best air conditioning in the world, and I'm
driving around it, that's great, but they decided, hey, you
(04:18):
know what, because for some reason for chloro floral carbons
or there's a free on shortage, I don't know, and
then something they say, it's, oh, hey, guess what all
the new cars now, Yeah, the air conditioning's not gonna easy.
We're gonna go back to what it was like when
you had to roll the windows down. No, no, I
don't want to do that. No, I'm not gonna do that.
I feel like that's and that's the step we're going
here with Twitter.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
How much should I save on that car?
Speaker 3 (04:38):
I don't want to go back.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
In today's car market, that might not actually be the
worst thing. You try to price a used car lately,
try to look at a new car I mean, it's
not a pretty world out there. But but to your point, yeah,
I know I'm not I'm not saying I want everything
rolled back. You know, the old you know, the good
old days are aren't always good tomorrow. And as bad
(05:02):
as it seems to go. Steal from our guy William Joel,
the great philosopher out of New York, but it is
to me from the Twitter side, the immediacy and the
I've got to constantly keep strolling because with what we
do for a living. Jason, you could speak to this,
you know Jonas who was just in here Frostburg, you
(05:23):
know Nick on the updates with us, like all of that, Like, yeah,
we wanted immediately because especially when we're in our window
and it's about time to yell, or in the hours
proceeding as we're prepping. But when I'm out and out
and about, I like the idea of you know what,
I've got my rate limit exceeded. I don't need to
think about Twitter for a little while. Although it annoyed
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me on Saturday because I was trying to post about
money in the bank. I was fired up with all
the twists to turn the return of John Cena.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
So the jo see you wanted to post and you
couldn't now.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
And you know what, I got over in about thirty
five seconds. I guess that's not working today. How much
just sit back and enjoy the show.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
How many times can I check Twitter this morning now
to find out if Damian Lillard has been signed to
trade it somewhere?
Speaker 3 (06:05):
How many times I don't want to not be able
to click on it?
Speaker 5 (06:08):
Like?
Speaker 3 (06:08):
How many? How many times?
Speaker 5 (06:09):
Like?
Speaker 3 (06:09):
How many stories could I scroll by that? Oh no, no,
I'm gonna hit my limit. I can't do it. You
can't do it.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Funny, you know, they make sure we've got to have
an intervention for you on the addiction of Twitter. Okay,
I because we can't, because I remember, you can get
got by the insiders. Remember before the draft? Yeah, a
lot of better. There's a lot of us in the media.
We got got because of a certain insider who works
for a sports book who put out a bad tweet
(06:34):
and screwed everything up. So you can't believe Twitter, even
the guys that are supposed to be your most trusted
best friends, they screwed you over to you.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
But I feel like I can aggregate pretty well, and
I get when something's wrong.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
You don't want to go into the aggregation business.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
I want to think, I understand. I don't want to.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
I don't want to be ninety minutes by Hey, you know,
Damian Lillard just got traded to the next went. It
happened like three hours ago, but I seeded my Twitter
limits so I couldn't get it. Uh So we probably
to click on Twitter and and uh and and figure
out so you know, if anything happens during the window
here on the show. But Jason Smith, Mike Harmon in
for Dan and the Dan that's today as NBA free
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agency rolls through. This is why there's so much attention
on Damian Lillard. And first of all, I'm extremely happy
because I'm just so happy that finally Damian Lillard said
something I can't tell you. For the last three years, Mike,
every offseason has been the same. It's all, if only
Dame could get to a better team off only get there.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Oh, Damian Lillard's not happy. How do we know?
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Not from Damian Lillard, but we know from other people,
and he wants some changes made and then nothing happens
and Damian Lillard goes back. So it couldn't have been
all that bad. Nope, but then I'm gonna going back. Oh,
same thing again. Uh the two years ago. Oh, Damian
Lillard might not be happy. Oh they should trade him,
he should want and he says nothing throughout the entire time.
Then it's all he really wants Jason Kidd as his coach.
Oh he's unhappy. Oh maybe he's not gonna stay.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
And he stays. And this year, you know me, we
talked about this. I'm done.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Like you say you want out or that's it, or
you stay in Portland forever, right, because every year is
the same thing. You threaten like you might quit. You're
kind of like Russell from Almost Famous, Oh I might leave.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
You don't want to.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
You just hang that over ahead that you might leave,
that you might. So either stay your staying or you
want out. And when we got the statement Damian Lillard
wants out and he said I want out and the
Blazers say, we'll try to accommodate. I was like, thank you.
At least now we know. At least now he's finally said, oh, hey,
I want out. And you know he was upset about
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doing it because he's going back and forth and trolls
on Twitter who were saying, Oh, Damie Lillard screwed over
the fans and everything.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
What do you mean? What did I do? What did
I do?
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Dude can't stay away from social media, so you know
that he was on, didn't want to do it, and finally,
three years after it was he probably should have gone
in the first place, he finally said he's out. So
now we're gonna get a resolution. At least I hope
we're getting a resolution, because right now nothing's happened, and
we don't know where he's gonna wind up going. He's
got preferential destinations.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
The heaters is.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
His number one place to go, and I'm hoping it
happens and it's not just a whole bunch of weeks.
So like Kevin Durant with a nets where I want out, Well,
there's no trade and now suddenly, okay, I'm back playing.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
So I'm hoping at some point, but I'm just glad that.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Now it looks like this Damian Lillard, this cycle that
we keep repeating over and over and over. Now it's
over and now he wants out and now he'll be
a difference maker or someplace else.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
He took to Twitter, this is one that came through
on my account Smith quote, it's in my blood to
take the high road. I'd love to hear what fans
are turning on. Have I misled them? Or anyone? Fill
me in? Well, you had. He always had plausible deniability
because everything was back channeled and anonymous of his level
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of contentedness with the organization, et cetera. Even going back
to last week, right as it was all right, if
they can put together moves to make this thing work,
they go and give Jeremy Grant, this grant giant contract.
Is that ain't dry? Or is he gonna get spun
off now? Because they're on There's a lot that still
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rolls on with Portland. If Dame gets traded, does Grant
follow him back out the door? I mean, did he
sign a good faith or did he? Or did Dame
get his guy the bag and the biggest bag he
could get before saying, hey, I'm done, congratulations, Jeremy, I
took car of you. I'm out right. I mean, it's
all of that, but you know too, for Lillard, yeah,
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I mean we've always heard the rumblings, but the outward
statement was of loyalty, the love of Portland, whatever, and
some fans will decide it's done. Look, it's the natural
life cycle of a superstar in today's day and age
because of what you've seen so many others do, what
they've achieved, how they're perceived, et cetera. And loyalty is
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a tricky word right in terms of what had they
done to put you in the best position to win?
For him, by finally this going public in him deciding
he wants out, well now changes the math and changes
the poker on him. Now there's expectations because it was
always dame in Portland. He can take him as far
as he could take him, and it's never gonna be
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seen as a failure. It's gonna be oh, did you
see what he did with that undermanned Portland squad. So
just so he's recognizing the rules of engagement for him
and how the poison pens will be administered changed quite
a bit.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Now.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
The reason that that he's he's such a big deal
and like everything's about Damian Lillard is because look at
what we've seen in free agency so far is that
we've seen a lot of okay, Like that's kind of
what it is. We've seen a lot of okay, like
what the what did the Lakers do? I like what
the Lakers did. We'll get to that. But the Lakers
basically brought everybody back, and they added Gabe Vincent. Okay,
(11:47):
you know, the Knicks brought everybody back. They basically traded
Obie Topping for Dante DiVincenzo. The Golden State Warriors brought
Draymond Green back.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Right.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
The biggest names in free agency, Kyle Kuzma's staying with Washington, okay,
and Fred Van Vliet goes to Houston. No moves have
happened by themselves that have been Hey, guess what, now
You're a complete bleeping title contender.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
Right.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
None of that's happened a lot. There's been a lot
of let's stay the same, let's grow what we have,
and I think that might be enough that another year
of everybody playing together for longer is gonna work. The
Lakers thinking, hey, let's have a whole season of our guys,
because when they played together the last half of the
year after the trade deadline, we were pretty good.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
There's been a lot of kind of okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Lillard's the one guy that can flip the script, that
can take a team and go, Hey, this team's pretty
good and now, hey, maybe now we can win the title.
And that's why there's so much attention to it. That's
why James Harden not a really kid. James Harden's a
big name, and wherever he winds up going, hopefully it's
not my team, wherever he winds up going, it'll be
a big headline.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
It'll be.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
But is he really going to impact the game as
much and his team as much? Because you've seen the
last two places he's been at. They haven't won, nevin't
come close to winning. But yeah, James Harden is still
great now. James Harden is kind of a guy. Now,
he's really good one out of every four games. But
Lillard is still young enough, gonna be thirty three, He's
got probably three ish years left to be the guy
he is. He's the guy that's gonna take a team
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from Hey, we're feeling pretty good about ourselves too.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Well.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Now we're at the top, we're in the top five
NBA title odds now because we add this guy. That's
why there's so much attention on him. And the big
question is gonna be, Hey, is Portland gonna be really pissed?
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Are they gonna be.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Are they gonna say, hey, you've been so great for us, Damian,
we really appreciate what you've done. And wherever you want
to go, you tell us, we'll make that deal happen.
You want to go to the Heat, we'll send you
the Heat. Or is Portland gonna say screw you, man,
you want we're taking the best deal. I don't care
if that's with Houston or I don't care if that's
with the Pacers or the Pistons.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
That's where we're going. So you know what, good luck
you want to trade final.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
That's gonna be the big thing, because you know, looking
at all this, I want to go.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
To the Heat. I want to go here. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
I don't know, man, I don't think the Blazers are
gonna suddenly just go say, yeah, Dave, you know you've
been so great. We're gona we're gonna send you this
parting gift out the door. I don't see that happening.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Yeah, I mean they've already made that statement, right, it's
we got to look out for the organization. We love you.
But all right, this is where we're at, so just
real quickly, Yeah, the heats odd change from fourteen to one,
to nine to one or ten to one, depending on
the book that you're at. And to your point about
reloading last couple of title teams, we were teams that
had built internally and grown. You look at Milwaukee, what
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they did and what their decisions were this offseason, right,
and bring back Lopez? He was gonna be a mid
level guy. Not so fast. Here's twenty four million dollars
a year and Chris Middleton and then you have Denver
so losing Bruce Brown. We'll see what that does. Rotation was,
but yeah, to your point, it's all about continuity. Maybe
the change, the the worm is turned, as it were,
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Jason Smith telling.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
You man, this is gonna be really interesting. Wait a minute,
I'm with the Pistons now. Oh, that's not where I
wanted to go.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
I did not want to No, we're gonna win twenty games.
Oh I'm wait. I mean I'm in Washington with Kyle
My goodness, that's not gonna be any good.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Oh, Twitter at how about a fresca Mike gets swollen dome.
The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon is our show
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So more on Damian Lillard, James Harden and all the
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we had the snubs. We're wondering what's happening with the
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What's happening, buddy?
Speaker 3 (17:38):
How are you?
Speaker 5 (17:39):
Good morning, gentlemen, Happy fourth of July week, Happy Canada
Day to our listeners north of the forty ninth parallel
as well, and great too with you today.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
So have you exceeded your Twitter limits? Are you gonna
be able to tweet breaking news if someone gets traded?
Or are you gonna wind up up against the wallide
have nowhere to put it out?
Speaker 5 (18:02):
That's a great question. I'm currently evaluating how I'm going
to handle this. It's probably gonna be one of the
great trade deadline matchups of twenty twenty three. It's not
just the Dodgers versus the Giants, or the Yankees versus
the Red Sox. It's the MLB insiders versus the Twitter rules,
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and so we will try to find a way to
disseminate our our news through whichever linear channels social media
platforms may exist. But I suppose this is true. When
I woke up at the Winter meetings in December and
had the Aaron Judge story and wanted to share it.
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I shared it on Twitter, so I have to to
thank Twitter for that. But now after reflect on how
my routines may perhaps evolve in due.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Time, Borg and sandwich boards.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Yeah, no white smoke just like a new pope, Hey
is a white while coming from a Rosie's house. There
must be just be a trade.
Speaker 5 (19:03):
I'll say this, I am, I am as I give
this public service announcement to all of us here on
the fourth of July week. I am a fan of
the handwritten note. Now, the handwritten note is not necessarily
the best way to break news because it does take
some time to be shared, but I do believe in
both the very rapid communication of Twitter news, which listen,
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I've very much enjoyed for more than a decade. But
I also believe in the simple joy of sitting down
to write a letter and mail it from the post office.
That is one of the coolest things I think that
we've got going in twenty twenty three.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
Still really cheap. As much as people complain about that.
Speaker 5 (19:47):
I had that conversation with my brother the other day.
You can put you can if you're in Augusta, Maine
on this beautiful morning. If you're in Augusta, Maine and
you want to share a note with someone Honolulu, it'll
cost you less than a dollar, and someone's gonna actually
pick it up from you in Augusta, Maine and take
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it to Honolulu for less than a dollar.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
What a deal that is.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
Now, that's it. If I were to tell you could
take that note and send it to Honolulu this morning,
who would be the list of top snubs and guys
that got jobbed based on great first half performances in
Major League Baseball?
Speaker 5 (20:23):
Well, and I appreciate the question, very creatively constructed, Mike,
as you always do. And what I would say is
we do in its own way. The snub conversation is
its own form of recognition. Sure, so if you are
the player that maybe barely gets onto the team, you
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probably get celebrated on shows like this less than the
guys who should have been named and worked. And so
thus I begin by recitation. I believe that Wander Franco
should be an All Star. I believe that George Kirby
of the Seattle Mariners should be an All Star. And
for sheer entertainment value and also performance, albeit in a
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small sample size. Elie de la Cruz needs to be
in this game. I know he's only been there for
the last several weeks, but my goodness, has he been
fun to watch the way in which he has arrived
with a flourish It's for the cycle, starring all over
the diamond for the Cincinnati Reds, a first place team.
I believe that Elie dela Cruz, or if you want
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to also make the case for his fellow rookie Matt McClain,
I think it's another great choice. So I'm a big
believer that the Reds are underrepresented, as are the Diamondbacks
that they Yes, they do have three all stars there
in Corbyn Carroll, Zach Gallon and lordes Guriel Junior, but
I believe they could easily have a fourth in Katel
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Marte Telly JP.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
We talked about it last week, the phrase Ellie de
la Cruz n L MVP, watch out, watch out. Yeah,
everybody loves Ronald Lacunya every because every day I get
Ronald Leucunya is only eighty five home runs and forty
five doles base away from being the first one hundred
hundred guy in baseball. I get people like him, but
Ellie did. He's got that it factor and the Reds
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and the story cuts through the clutter. Watch out Ellie
de la Cruz.
Speaker 5 (22:22):
I agree and listen, it's certainly going to be a
challenge for him to make up all of the numbers.
And when you think about Acunya will have six months
of baseball and Ellie will have four by the end
of it, And so how great do those four months
have to be to override what Ronald has done in
six months. That's going to be a tough task. But
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as someone who's been a voter, I certainly believe that
Ellie could get votes on a lot of ballots. And
part of the reason is if the Reds win the division,
he has to be one of the big reasons why.
You could also argue Matt McClain as I mentioned earlier,
but a couple of rookies have changed this entire team.
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De la Cruz and McLain. You've got a credit Nick
Krawl for the work that he's done in bringing in
names like Jake Fraley. TJ. Friedel was an undrafted free agent,
so it really is a unique and un heralded roster.
And now I would say a storyline for all of
us to watch across Major League Baseball in the next
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several weeks is how winnable both Central divisions are. And
it may well be that as we see the teams
approach the August first trade deadline, the teams that make
the big splash are those that win each of those divisions,
the AL Central and the NL Central.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
So with all of that rolling on, let's come out
to the NL West and the Los Angeles Dodgers giving
a couple of games away this weekend to the Royals.
And while panic is ensuing in the streets of Los
Angeles JP, how do you calm them down? Or what
needs to happen to allay their fears as they gluttonize
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this holiday weekend?
Speaker 5 (24:11):
They need to trade for a starting pitcher. And I
know that that question well suggested by our man Justin Frossberg,
but I think that we've got we've got to find
some answers for this Dodgers pitching staff. They lost Saturday's
game started by Julio Urrias, and they started Sunday. They
lost Sunday's game started by Tony Gonsolin. This is not
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the same rotation that got them to and through a
World Series championship in twenty twenty. They're just not that deep.
This is to me, and we talked a lot this
time of year about NBA free agency and trades. This
is like an NBA star driven team with a handful
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of stars but not a lot of depth. They've got
four All Star physician players Bets Freeman, JD. Martinez, and
Will Smith, but the second half of the lineup is
not as deep as it was when you had Jock
Peterson in his prime and Key k Hernandez in his prime.
They missed Justin Turner. It's not the same group. And
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I think pitching wise, Clayton Kershaw's an All Star, but
by now there should be one or two of the
younger guys who are as reliable as Clayton, if not
as great as Clayton, but just reliable as him. And
that next generation has fallen a little bit short. It's
still a really good team, still a playoffs team in
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my estimation. But when you're in Los Angeles, the standard
is are you a World Series contender? Are you able
to match what the team did in twenty twenty or
by making it to the World Series as they did
in twenty seventeen, and guys, I just do not see
at the moment the same level of depth on the
twenty twenty three Dodgers that I did in twenty seventeen,
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twenty eighteen, or twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Well, I'm glad you bring this up, JP, because I
think this is where you can say something and I
can say something. We can help everybody out because I've
been given permission to negotiate this trade. I know the
Dodgers have ninety million dollars lying around, so I can
make sure I can deliver them justin Verlander.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
And Max Schurzer.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
I will.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
If they have that munchy, I can deliver them.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
I can get them to the airport and get them
to Los Angeles, get them out from under the disappointing Mets,
and I can get them there and everybody's problems are solved.
Speaker 5 (26:32):
Wow, I'm gonna save you the phone call and say
that on behalf of Andrew Friedman and the Los Angeles Dodgers.
My response is no, thanks, no thanks. There's just not
the production of that of the of that duo is
not matching the amount on their paychecks and while Verlander
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was much better last time out, we just haven't seen
collectively what we need to see from the Mets. Who
would have thought, by the way, that after all the
spending of the offseason and almost getting Carlos Korea as well,
that the Mets would have one All Star one and
that All Star would be Pete Alonso selected by Major
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League Baseball. Think about that, not a single fan or
player elected All Star on the roster, and it's Pete Alonso,
who certainly will be there to also compete in his event,
the home run Derby. So it is a it is
a startling change, and Jason, as you know, Mets fans
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are not the kind to just say, Okay, well, maybe
it's not gonna work this year. We'll just check back
with you next offseason, and until then we're just going
to relax and focus on the Jets. That's not what's
happening here. There's gonna be a lot of conversation, Jason,
right now about about this team, as you well know,
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and there's not a lot of alternatives. I still think
that you may see some front office changes after the
season is over, and you may even see some roster
changes before the trade deadline. We've heard, at least based
on public commentary, Steve Cohen is much more open minded
than his Podres counterpart Peter Sidler. The changing course in
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the coming weeks oheat of the trade.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
Deadline got the Padres in there because they're the other
West Coast large failure, I guess, would be the kind
way to put it. JP. What can they do or
will they do? Or they just say, hey, we've got
the bats. Eventually they wake up and we can push
ahead here. Or are they doomed for a failure of
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a season after spending as well?
Speaker 5 (28:46):
Well, I think they are doomed. I really do believe
that for this season. It's not doomed in the big picture,
but I do believe for the purposes of winning a
World Series in twenty twenty three. Again, this is where
I take step back in the trade deadline, and it's
important to judge every team based on the preseason spending
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and expectations, and both the Padres and the Mets were
supposedly all in it to win it this year, the
World Series period, and it's so interesting and I think
we will be seeing a change in this perhaps in
the offseason coming up now. Obviously showy Otani is probably
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in a separate category. But you see the way the
Mets have struggled, You see the way the Padres have struggled,
and even the Yankees to an extent, although it's not
Aaron Judge's fault, he's just been on the injured list,
and you start to wonder to yourself, is this really
the best half for a team to spend that much?
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The Padres, to me, while Peter Sitherers said that they
don't anticipate a dramatic change, of course, if they're still
five or six games under five hundred at the deadline,
don't you have to move Josh Haterer, don't you have
to move Blake Snell rather than risk losing them for nothing.
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I just think for me, it's a very clear plan
that at least the guys that are on expiring contracts,
you can trade them without changing the fundamental course of
the franchise. The franchise changing path would be trading one Soto,
which I don't think they're ready to do yet, but
objectively they should probably be considering, because let's take the
(30:35):
big picture look at this. The Nationals traded him a
year ago because they didn't have him signed long term
guests who still doesn't have him signed long term the Padres,
and so unless that changes, the fundamental underlying reason for
why he became a Padre in the first place still
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exists as a potential motivating element to consider moving Juan
Soto somewhere else. So, while the Padres don't seem ready
to make moves yet, to me, gentlemen, it is an
inevitability that teams will be calling them about Hater and Snell,
and my recommendation would be that they should listen.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
All right, JP, So those are the disappointing teams, right,
those are the teams you're kind of selling on who
you buy it on for the second half of the season.
Speaker 5 (31:24):
The Reds are a good ball club, they really are,
and they're a team that probably needs a little bit
more starting pitching. I think the Orioles probably need the same.
But in general, I love stories of emerging teams that
have done it the right way. The Baltimore Orioles are
(31:45):
gonna be well represented both of the All Star Game
and the Futures Game. They have one of the very
best farm systems in the entire sport. We've already seen
a number of their players most recently Westburg show up
to the major leagues and make an impact. I really
like the way they've built their team, and while it
may be a challenge for them to catch up to
(32:05):
the Rays in the regular season, they may well be
And feel free to clip this off justin and keep
it for October. The Orioles may be a better playoff
team than the Rays because of their dominant bullpen, So
I like that team. With one more starting pitcher, The
Baltimore Ools, for me, could make a lot of noise
(32:27):
in the American League playoffs this year, and then I
think out west I also like the Diamondbacks. Corbyn Carroll.
What a great story he's going to be getting to
start in his hometown of Seattle. At the All Star Game,
I mentioned Totel Marte, Lordescuriel Junior. Really well constructed roster
there by Mike Hazen and ami Al Sade their top
baseball officials. So well done by the Diamondbacks, the Reds,
(32:50):
what a great story they are. We talked about Laedlit
cruising Matt McLain earlier, and then the Orioles as well.
Very much a homegrown basis. So those three teams I
believe we will all see that in the postseason.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
You can FA on Twitter at John Morosi, that is
at John Morosi MLB Network Insider JP. As always, buddy,
appreciate it. Happy fourth. We'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 5 (33:11):
Sounds great, and I will let you know if and
when there's an Alex to brink It trade in the NHL,
we'll talk about that as well.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
See you, buddy, have fun. All right, there goes John
Paul Morosi.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
I got I'll give you a big bull prediction, Mike,
because the look those teams are all very good. We
see we've seen the Reds and the Orioles. It's like
the seventies again. The Reds are good, the Orioles are good.
The Dodgers are good. You know, it's kind of fun.
The Yankees are somewhat good. The Blue Jays, Yeah, it's
kind of fun seeing that happen. But I'll tell you what,
the Orioles are gonna win the Al East. I mean
(33:46):
everything the Rays have done so far this season. They
were the best team for the first you know, eighty
games of the or the first seventy games of the
year by far. Knowing way they jumped out to a lead.
Everything was raised raised. Look at their run different it's
plus one fifty seven everything they did, and the Orioles
are three games back everything they did. And that's where
(34:08):
the Orioles are. O's are gonna win this division. They're
gonna they're gonna come up in the second half and
you're gonna see them pull away because it's all their
young talent all coming through. They are this good. They
are built for the every day. We're not gonna get
too high, get too low. For young team to go
out and win machine like like they do. That's pretty
interesting and that's that's a mark of a really good
(34:29):
team that's getting good way before it's supposed.
Speaker 4 (34:31):
To fifteen to one to win the al Pennant.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
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eq that's MBUA dot com slash eq. So we're waiting
for Damian Lillard and again we're gonna refresh on Twitter
when we can. I don't want to hit my limits,
so I can't tell you what happens. Uh, waiting for
Damian Lillard. But the other player we are waiting for
an NBA free agency is he worth it?
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So coming up in a few minutes, we'll get into
what the Lakers have done in free agency. I believe
they signed eleven more players in the last five minutes.
I can't refresh on Twitter, so I can't really check
like I used to. But we're waiting for two big
dominoes to fall in free agency. We're waiting for Damian Lillard,
we talked about that earlier in this hour. And we're
(36:48):
waiting for James Harden, which honestly is more of a
headline than it is a huge deal, because, first of all,
I don't know that any team really is a James
Hardened away from anything, not this version of James Harden.
And when you throw in the agent Woljerarowski report from
yesterday that the Sixers are drawing a line in the
(37:09):
sand and they want a big return for James Harden, Like,
how long is this gonna take to play out? It
could go out into Summer League and maybe into the
fall with moving James Harden. But I don't get where
suddenly Harden is so desirous, Like it's not like he
helped bring the Sixers to the conference finals last year
(37:31):
and they fell a step short of winning the NBA Championship,
and boy, we got to bring this back with with
James Harden or another team says, boy, we gotta go
get James Harden and and make sure because he's a
missing piece. You've watched him the last two places, he's
been not be the same dynamic player he was James
Harden one out of every four games in the playoffs,
(37:51):
like what we're used to him from. He's kind of
he's kind of a really good role player now, right,
he's kind of a really good support but I should
say real players. He's kind of a good support player. Right,
guy's gonna start play a ton of minutes, but in
the end, he hasn't. He didn't elevate the nets to
anything they had to move on. He didn't really elevate
the Sixers because where were they the lost of the
(38:12):
second round like they do every single year. They didn't
elevate the Sixers. It's a very difficult time for me
to say, yeah, I want to go all in and
get James Harden, especially when the Sixers want a lot
in return. Seriously, you want a lot in return for
this guy. Wait, so how is this gonna actually happen?
I don't see it. I don't see teams saying yes,
(38:33):
team's doing it for Damian Lillard one hundred percent. Absolutely.
I know Harden did shoot pretty well from deep last year,
but he's scoring twenty twenty a game now. I mean,
there's ninety guys in the NBA that scored twenty a game.
He's not that dominant thirty a game score that he was.
Where now I can affect everything. I mean, you've seen
teams that brought him in to be the missing piece,
and what happens. One team got broken up and now
(38:55):
another team is looking to move on from him. So
I really I don't get the love for James hard
It's more like people looking at the back of his
basketball card going wow, man, he's been really really good.
Speaker 3 (39:05):
Let's go make a trade for him.
Speaker 4 (39:07):
It's funny, we're just actually talking about some cards here
in the studio as we get rolling here on a
holiday holiday holiday weekend, a lot of sorting from me
and looking at the back back of cards, including a
guy like Harden twenty one a game forty four percent
from the field did hit well from three point range,
six rebounds and four straight years of at least ten
(39:27):
assists can still fill up the box score. And you
know my favorite Toby Keith song, now that he's performing again,
we can talk about it. Not as good as I
once was, but I'm as good once as I ever was.
That you're hoping you have more of those than not.
And if he goes to the right situation where you've
got other superstars who step forward when he doesn't have
(39:48):
a thirty five point night in him, then it all works.
But when he scores nine when you need him most,
and goes Randy Van Warmer, look it up, kids, and
the game leaves you when you need it, and he's
not shooting the ball effectively or at all right nine
field goal attempts as they're ousted, that it fails. I
(40:10):
know you're trying to do the best you can buy
embiids so as to not get him salt because remember
you eventually had to part ways with Ben Simmons. You
got better than you probably should have since he's not
finding a court anytime soon. But as you're watching parts,
he eventually he's the guy next guy that raised his hand,
and he's usually pretty outspoken to say, what am I
(40:31):
even doing here anymore? So I get you're trying to
do a solid by him. But in the interim, you know,
what's the marketplace? Look like you've got an expiring contracts.
So whoever's bringing him on? Is he a piece? He's
a rental player now, right, because he's gonna want a
three or four year deal as part of all of
(40:51):
these negotiations and the flow of the information, right, that's
gonna be the demand on his side and the don't
want to be left hold in the bag when you
were in theory so close to the endgame.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
No, and I'm putting it out no no, no for
my team. No no, no, no, no no no, James Harden,
no stop stop doing that. Come on, no no, no,
Look at listen.
Speaker 4 (41:17):
We mean, I know he didn't go to Yukon, but
it's okay.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
It does it doesn't, It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.
Yukon Villanova. We'll get everybody. We'll get everybody. Uh no, no,
I you know Damian Lillard. Great, we can make that move. Yeah,
we got some flexibility.
Speaker 3 (41:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
No, James Harden, No, I'm not putting it out there
in the atmosphere. I'm not putting it out there. You're
trying to put it out there. No, no, on James Harden.
Every time, it's not really. No, it's not it's not really.
You know, you're trying to make it happen. You're trying
to make it evaporate and come out of Thinn. No,
it's not happening.
Speaker 3 (41:48):
No, I'm not doing it.
Speaker 4 (41:48):
It's okay, No, no, no, no, Look, well he can
be an honorary Villanova guy.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
No, okay, no, because the only thing where I could say,
well it would be is if they trade Juliet's randall
and it's not gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (42:04):
I don't want James Harden.
Speaker 4 (42:05):
Yeah, the salaries matchup. See, I mean you could put
it into the trade evaluator and it's gonna It's a
nice easy solution right there for you. You get rid
of a guy that's been vexing you for the next one.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
Now, look, I get that's how the Knicks probably used
to do things. Should we make this trade, I don't know.
Let's put it in the trade calculator and see how
it comes out.
Speaker 3 (42:25):
Oh no, we need more.
Speaker 2 (42:26):
It's like a fantasy trade. Oh no, no, no, I
need more. I put it in the trade machine. It
says I need more from you.
Speaker 3 (42:31):
I can't just take this.
Speaker 4 (42:31):
It's more just the psychological side of it for this point,
when you start bringing hardened in, I mean, I.
Speaker 3 (42:38):
Get that's how it, but no, no, stop doing it.
Stop whatever mind games you're trying to play right now,
just stop it. It's not he's not going.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
Let's push him with the clippers. I'll push him the
clippers for you. That's fine because him and Paul George.
Oh I want to see that that. I want to
see him.
Speaker 4 (42:56):
Let's do it again.
Speaker 2 (42:59):
What about the Lakers? What about other big moves in
free agency? We got it for you next right here,
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