July 4, 2023 • 36 mins
In the fourth hour of The Jason Smith Show, Arnie & Bernie talk about expectations headed into the NFL season and big contracts leading up to training camp. The guys preview the pre-season games coming up and lastly the guys finish with more NBA talk!
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of us on the show at Bertie Frado ad stinking genius.
One I did get like a private message, what do
they say a DM And someone said I heard the
other night. Alan says, I heard the other night that
you're in a beef with the Mallard Militia and won't
come back on.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
I'm sorry to hear that because I look.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Forward to you when you're on hanging there and don't
forget us fans.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
You filled in for Ben mallor have you not there,
Bernie or what?
Speaker 5 (01:18):
Ten times? As a matter of fact, I did twice
last week and it's it's a great experience.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Yeah, I love I look, I like the ballor Militia.
I just the two am to six am is just
too much. I mean, if I was on the West
Coast and you're getting done at three o'clock in the morning,
maybe that's a little bit more palatable.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
But it's so hard when you're getting off at six o'clock.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
You know what I mean, Well, you're closing down John
Bajuice and in you're head to work.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
It's not easy.
Speaker 5 (01:44):
It's not easy.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
But I will tell you this, if the Ball of
Militia is listening early tonight, I want you to ask Ben.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
You could ask him to tell you one of two stories.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
One how I made him wash all the cars in
Los Angeles after the Lakers won the championship, which was
something I was supposed to do, but I pawned it
off on him and his partner, So ask him about that,
or if you want a better story, we were in Indianapolis.
Was it the Lakers in Indie Indiana Pacers, I believe,
in the NBA Finals And we were at the same
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hotel and we were out there and Ben and I
were at the hot tub with another guy that was
on the trip, and in walks about, Remember this hot
tub only probably had comfortably could fit six people in,
and then walk eight beautiful women get in.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
The hot tub with us and they're all topless.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
Now I'm gonna leave the story there, and I'm gonna
have Ben pick it up and finish the story on
his show.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Okay, So you'll have to listen to Ben mallor finish.
Speaker 5 (02:42):
That's one that's a tease.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
So have text in the bend saying can you finish
the story about how when you and stinking Genius were
in the hot tub in Indianapolis with eight topless women
and pick it up from there. So it's a pretty
funny story. We'll see what Ben has to say. Right,
he went married at the time, so what difference does
it make. Perty's got nothing to say on that right, like.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
This one man.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Party, by the way, you know, because I heard the
saga doing the updates on Wimbledon. I remember when I
was young, I used to love Wimbledon. I mean I
used to really get into it. You know, you watch
the great and it was the men's and the women's.
It wasn't just men you were watching there, Yeah, some
iconic players. I missed those days. I just don't get
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into Wimbledon until the end, and you know, I gotta
know who's in the finals. But it's not like it
was back, and it certainly lost a lot of its cluster.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
You know what I mean. It's well, tennis is a
great sport, it's lost its sluster because well, yeah, that's
a whole different conte But here's why. Name the last
American to win a major, right, right, Andy Roddick, twenty
years ago.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
But we had foreigners.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
We still have you on board that we like, we
had a lot of foreigners back in that day.
Speaker 5 (04:04):
We'll sure you're right on down the line iconic tennis players.
But I think that's that's part of the reason. Although
it still holds up if you take a minute to
watch it. And I watched Serena Williams last year. That
was just some highdrama tennis around Labor Day, right, So,
I mean that was It's the sport in and of
itself is still very dynamic, but it's what I call
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the Canadian Football League syndrome. This is one of the
very first things I wrote with Dick Shapp and I
mentored the reason people don't watch a lot of Canadian
Football League. You don't know who's playing. You don't know
what the significance is, right, you don't. You just don't know.
Half the teams are called the rough Riders and you
don't know what the significance. You need the gas House
Gang and the Murders Road, you need significance, right right, Well,
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that's what's happening with tennis right now. People don't, I think,
know who the rivalries are. You don't have Borg and Connors.
You don't have Martina Navertilover and Chris McEnroe mac and
right right, you don't have a guy. Look, you jerk,
that was buns. You know what it's all? You got
robots call in line things now, you know other than
the peaches and not peach strawberries and cream they right right,
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you know, I'm playing tennis on grass, So I mean, look,
there's a different dynamic. And let's face it, there's a
lot of competition.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
It used to be a bucketless thing to do. I
used to want it very much.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
Yeah, right around this time of year, right around July fourth.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
Yeah, yeah, I love it all right at Bernie Frotto,
I'm it's thinking genius one. Now, Bernie, you want to
talk about this because you're you've been watching like the XFL,
the USFL, and you want the NFL to implement some
of the stuff that they're doing over there.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
Right, Yeah, yeah, here's where I'm going with that. And
and of course, you know, the NFL is an older, established,
stodgy league like the NBA was. Remember the old aber
or any how.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Cool it was right aboutely white and blue ball and
everything else.
Speaker 5 (05:51):
And by the way, what did you say that's a drop?
Never mind after the after the hotel visual. You know
it's right. So let me back up here, because in
all seriousness, who just won the NBA Championship an original
ABA team to Denver Nuggets. So give me a little
latitude here because I'll tie this up in a bow.
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So when the ABA shut down. There were a ton
of NBA players that ended up on their rosters, including
six of the ten All Star starters. I think in
nineteen seventy six had been in the ABA the year before, right,
doctor jas I believed you Connie Hawk a ton of them, right.
So then the Spurs were an original ABA team. Well,
the NBA could have ignored them, but they basically copied
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everything the ABA that did accept the red, white and
blue basketball. They really have. The USFL, the original USFL.
They originated the Department of Redundancy department. They originated the
current replay method that the NFL uses now with coaches
challenges and throwing a flag. But the NFL was stodgy.
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It took forever to do that. So the XFL lost
sixty twenty three, and you know, full disclosure, I don't
know if I watched half an hour of it the
whole year, but I did follow it. And this is
an important thing, because the XFL initiated a replay method
that I think the NFL really needs to take note on.
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So we've all been there. You're watching a game, there's
a call that's challenged, and then you gotta wait it's
examined and it's either going to be upheld or overturned. Right,
And you're sitting there and you're listening to the two
announcers and the color commentator. They go over the slow
motion replays. They go over various angles and repeat, repeat,
you know themselves, over and over, and you're waiting and
waiting and waiting and waiting, and then finally there's the
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render decision. What the XFL has done is take you
behind the curtain and let you see how the sausage
is made. Who's running the show is Dan Blandino, so
they are completely transparent in that Blandino is on camera
as the amba list. You get to overhear the conversation
the referees on the field and the booth, and and
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you're getting to see the replay angles that they don't
show on TV. So all of a sudden, now this
is incredibly innovative, it's entertaining, it's part of the broadcast,
and critics the transparency of this XFL replay process has
been met with rave reviews because you feel like the
NFL is hiding something. You feel like they don't want
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to see that. Everybody loves the transparency. You've got airtime
to fill number one. It adds to the you know,
the viewer participation of the broadcast and the media is intrigued.
So this is a no brainer for me. For the
NFL to at least take a look at and vote
on it would incrementally improve that whole process right away.
(08:44):
Not as far as the USFL, they had something happen
in their in their semi final game between the Maller
Pittsburgh Mallers and the Panthers. I mean, now there's a
there's pure excitement there, right. You get the Mallers and
the Panthers together on a Friday night. Who knows, hey,
forget it baby. But late in the fourth quarter, the
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Malers lead the Panthers twenty to seventeen. Michigan connects on
a fifty five yard touchdown pass they take the lead,
but there was a penalty on the play. The right
tackle for Michigan, a guy named Josh Dunlap. They threw
a flag for a face mask file, so the touchdown
was called back. Here comes the sky judge, a guy
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you heard of, Mike Pereira. He looks at the play
and says, wait a minute, there was no face mask foul.
He may have been you know, slightly holding the edge
of the jersey. It was not a face mask file.
The penalty was eliminated, the touchdown was restored. That's significant.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
So you don't have to challenge No, the sky judge.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
Well, you know they review a scoring plays, right, right,
and so yeah, you don't have to challenge it. Ask
the good folks in New Orleans on that non call
on the pass interference against Range that one year when
they to ask him about that, and the NFL would
have had no fix, all right, and you had the
sideline you know, you know, plague with the Chiefs and
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the Bengals a couple years ago. I don't want to
go on and on about that. Here's the point. If
NFL decision makers were watching that game, because what Perira
did to clean that call up, to make sure the
call is right in the most critical moment of a
divisional game. This is for the right to go to
the championship game. It made the game better. And guess
who the analyst was on the game, Jason Garrett. He said,
this is really easy. The crew handled it the right way.
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Justice for all the NFL really needs to look at this. Now.
The moral of the story is Pittsburgh still end up
winning the game, but they won the game because of
the reference on the field, not because they had a
negative consequence of human error and lucked out because the
refs missed one. You put those two things together, I
don't know anybody who wouldn't want to see both of
those things. Let's put our fan hat on right now,
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wouldn't you. How do you feel about that? Aren't you?
Because I don't see why the NFL doesn't at least
consis or those things. Unless again, now you know why
I brought up the ABA and why I brought up
the original USFL. These older leagues, if they didn't think
of it first, clearly they're a little you know, there's
a little snooty about policy changes like this.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
I knew about the behind the curtain thing with the
officials on replay, and I would love to see that
in the NFL. I'd love to go ahead and hear
the process, what they're doing, what they're looking at, the
different angle stuff that we can see. I think that'd
be fantastic party. I think a lot of people would
love to go ahead and see that and get a
better feel of what's happening on that I think that'd
be fantastic.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
You know, I think it would not only be fantastic
in terms of getting the call right and having the
proper outcome. But think about it again, let's go back
to the XFL one. Yeah, nobody likes the process in
terms of how you go from start to finish on
whether a call is upheld or overturned. You wait and
wait and wait, and they show it again in slow motion,
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and you say to yourself, Okay, come on, if it's
taken this long, don't change it. And by the way,
eighty three percent of calls aren't overturned. And when I
did the Ben Meer Show last week, Eddie Garcia and
I talked about this. Eddie Garcia brought up a really
good point. He says, if you're gonna show the replay
showing at high speed the way the ref saw it,
don't slow it down and create multiple different angles. All
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that does is add more confusion because the game is
not playing slow motion. I thought that made a lot
of sense. The point of the matter is there's a
clunky way of doing this. I'm so nonplus with this
whole damn thing. I wouldn't care if they eliminated a
replay all together because I don't like the process.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
Yeah, real quick, I want to tell you, because you
brought up the ABA and the NBA a real quick story.
When I first moved to California, you know, I was,
I was just like, what like ten years old, eleven
years old, and I'm walking around in Brentwood and I'm like,
oh my goodness, there's Kareem Abdul Jabbar and it's just
being him around.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
I go, Kareem, can I get draw atograph? And he
just keeps all walking. I go, Karee, please, can I
get drawtograph? I get dra autograph? He's like this, son,
I'm not cream up though, Jamarco.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
Come on, stop it. I need your autograph. Please please
give me your autograph? Creep And the guy stops. He signs it,
and I look at it. I go, Julia Servic, who
the hell are you?
Speaker 5 (13:15):
Man?
Speaker 3 (13:16):
The idea? I just threw it on the ground and
walked away.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
You know, well, that's beautiful. You remember, okay, we talked
real quick. We talked about Marvin bad News Barnes a
couple hours ago. Right, Yeah, remember the Bob cost this
story when Costas was doing play by play for the
Old Saint Louis spirits and Marvin bad News Barnes, who
could really play, by the way I get I.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Played up in Seattle.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
I believe the next incredible score. Oh my god, he'd
been incredible in today's game. So I tell his story
in my book from the Chief seats. So Barnes, you
know when a team takes a road trip on't they're
all handed in itinerary right for the entire when the
flights leave and land and the hotels blah blah blah.
So Marvin, they're in Philadelphia to get ready to fly
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back to Saint Louis, and Barnes gets his itinerary true story.
He's staring at it. He's all concerned. He goes up
to Bob Costs. He goes, Bob, look at this. Our
flight departs Philadelphia at eleven ten am. It arrives in
Saint Louis at eleven am. Bob, I ain't getting on
no time machine. Apparently Marvin was not real well versed
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I love that.
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Bernie preseason around the corner of the what is the
winning streak right now for the Ravens in the preseason.
Speaker 5 (17:55):
Baltimore Ravens have won twenty three straight preseason games, but.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
How many have they covered?
Speaker 5 (18:02):
Though? That's the question twenty twenty two and one.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
That's insane because.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
They want to win, aren'ty? For years you've been saying it.
So I'm coming up on my five year anniversary on
the network and I was on with you and Aaron
every Saturday night going back to twenty eighteen. You always
would say the preseason is the free season. Okay, You're
not wrong. It's far easier to bet the NFL preseason
than the regular season. And if you don't believe me,
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go into a sportsbook and ask yourself why the limits
on a preseason game are about five percent of what
the limits are on a regular season game. Multiple reasons why,
the most being it's the only professional sporting event you'll
see where one side wants to win and the other
side doesn't care if they win. And if you understand
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which coaches like John Harbaugh really want to win in
the preseason, especially first year coaches in their first home game,
the Hall of Fame game, it's gone under seven of
the last nine years, only three teams have scored more
than twenty points during that time period, and only one
team trailing at halftime has come back to win in
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the last thirteen years. They're not taking that game seriously.
Half the guys in these games are gonna be working
at nap all the parts next month. Now nothing. He
gets sad. That's good Christian guy, who's that's good clean work.
But they're not NFL players.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
Does it change out it's going to be three preseason games.
Does that make it more valuable or no?
Speaker 5 (19:34):
Keeps it the same. Doesn't really matter. There's no real
difference because you have the same dynamics. For instance, look
at their rosters and their quarterback rotation and their depth
and their style. When you have teams that have quarterback
battles and you're going to put one to three quarterbacks
in the field, you might have a quarterback in a
third or fourth quarter in a preseason game who's a
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seven year NFL veteran. He just trying to hang around
get a few more paychecks, right, right. So you look
at rosters, you look at cluster injuries, you look at coaches,
you look at situations like first year coach, first year game.
It all comes down to motivation. For example, teams that
struggled the previous year in the regular season, teams that
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were winless in the preseason, all those are potential betting
opportunities because there are added motivations. Find the teams that
are motivated exploit that opportunity. Baltimore Ravens twenty three in
a row. You know they want to keep it going, right.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
Are there sharps out there that are just betting balt
Like Vegas sharps are all over the Ravens and change
outline big time or.
Speaker 5 (20:37):
What well that yeah, that does happen. Actually, that's another point.
You look at the key numbers. They're very valuable in
the regular season. The key numbers in football three, four, six,
and seven, and a number moving a half a point
off for three is more important than the line going
from say four to six, because five is a dead number.
But you look in the preseason, the key numbers are
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one and two because no team ever wants to go
to overtime for fear of additional injury risk. So teams
that might be in the they might be able to
tie the game of an extra point. Hell, they'll go
for a two point conversion, so though they're lose by
one or win by one rather than go overtime. So
all of a sudden, the line that's one or two
is more significant than a line that's three or four.
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And you usually don't see lines more than six. If
you see a team getting six points or more, you
typically want to look hard at the dog unless there's
some other situation.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
Wow, I didn't know they covered the spread that much, Bernie,
that's crazy.
Speaker 5 (21:32):
Oh yeah, oh sure, sure, and it's all researchable. Look,
the key concept, though, is coaching history. If you blindly
bet on Harbaugh and the Raids, the Ravens in the
last twenty three preseason games, they're twenty three to zero
and they're twenty two and one against the spread because
they valued the preseason. They prioritize winning more so than
most teams. All Right, a preseason better you just blindly back.
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The Ravens could have come back and bite into butt
this year. Maybe, But why is baltim We're gonna change
your Philosophiel. So they've got Lamar Jackson back and he
may not even play in the preseason, but there's a
different dynamic and a different culture, and what you want
to do is get on these games before the line
moves you don't want to chase the line, but it's
it's a much different dynamic. It's a real great opportunity
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to make money. And it used to make bug me
when I hear people in other networks saying, oh, by
oh you bet preseason football, you got a problem. No, yeah,
that's just not true. That that is an uninformed remark.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
Yeah, I'm gonna get a shirt that says the preseason
is the preseason and see if I could go ahead
and market that now speaking about not playing, and I
hate to do this to you and the listeners too,
but it is a story.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
This week.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
Plank and I talked about it last night. Colin Kaepernick.
He says he stayed in shape and he's ready for
his chance. You know, I said to this the Plank
last night. I said, look, if he was really serious,
money aside, and you got to a point where it
doesn't look like he's ever gonna get into the NFL
again unless he does something drastic. I would have played
in the Arena Football League of the Canadian Football and say, hey,
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look at be looking be Look how great I'm doing.
Maybe I'll get a shot back in the NFL. I
don't think he's really that serious about coming back to
the NFL at all?
Speaker 3 (23:08):
What do you think?
Speaker 5 (23:10):
You know? I don't know what's going on between the years,
but I know he's not a prospect anymore, and he
hasn't been for quite a long time. There's no question
if you go back to twenty eleven twenty twelve, he
had a nice run there. Certainly was keen helping the
forty nine ers get back to the super Bowl, and
all of a sudden, now I gotta tell your Arnie,
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my tenures are covering the lines in Detroit, Pre and
Post I had some of the most intelligent conversations. There's
so many smart people in the NFL. Where am I
going with that? They took a look at him, broke
him down, and they realized, if you blitz Colin Kaepernick,
he's gonna make you miss seventy two percent of the time.
And when he makes you miss and the play breaks down,
that's where Colin Kaepernick is at his best. You make
him sit in the pocket and pick a part of defense,
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that's where he struggles. Champ Bailey said it. He said,
he's the easiest quarterback he's ever had to play against
because you tell him everything. So all of a sudden.
As time went on and defense has learned what to do,
he ended up being sixteen down the stretch. He became
characterized as a glorified read option only quarterback whose time
had passed. And let me tell you, coaches want to
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win in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
There, I thought the Raiders wanted to give him a
chance to or no, that's well, they.
Speaker 5 (24:19):
Made that statement. Of course, Colin Kaepernick deserves to be
in someone's camp, and.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
They didn't want to go ahead and deal with the headache.
Speaker 5 (24:28):
You know. Well, you know I talked to Jim Fossil
about that. God rest is holy like Colin Kaepernick. And
you know, Colin Kaepernick h he will go down in history,
his legacy secure. I think he had his moment in
time and he made some choices and and you know,
I'm not judging him for what he did, but Jim
Fossil once said, look, when you're the team's quarterback, it's
a little different dynamic because if you polarize the fan
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base and you're the quarterback into the face of the franchise,
that can sometimes you know, cost people to swallow hard.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
Yeah, well, unfortunately, we'll see what happens there and one
other things. I don't know if you heard this, Jerry
Jones on the verge of signing a deal with Netflix.
It's gonna pay him just like on the fifty million
dollars for ten episodes. I love Jerry Jones, I love
everything about it. But do I have to go ahead
to get it in ten episodes? Can I cut it
down the five or something like that? Do I need
it in ten episodes?
Speaker 5 (25:16):
You know I was thinking the same thing. You know,
what are they gonna do? Start when he was in kindergarten?
Ten ten episodes? You know you could do maybe ten
episodes on what how they heil him? And Jimmy Johnson
screwed that damn thing up? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (25:28):
Yeah, I had it won fire.
Speaker 5 (25:29):
Barry Switzer came in and won a Super Bowl with
Jimmi's players, right.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
So yeah, I would like to see that.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
But hey, I'll tell you some of the best interviews
I've had is when I was in Dallas and used
to have Jerry Jones on.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
He's just a fun guy. He really is.
Speaker 5 (25:43):
He's he like him, I really do. He's been good
for the league. I honestly think he's been good for
the Cowboys on balance and I'll tell you. One of
the most fascinating interviews I saw him give was on
HBO back in twenty oh nine, the year before I
left Michigan. He talked about how truly scared he was
when he built that stadium him could he fill it
every year? Could he pay the rent? Was he gonna
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lose everything? And it was a tremendous interview and the
risk he took. Obviously, it's been a huge success. And
he started out his career as a wildcatter in oil
and he got lucky a few times, but he's admitted
that that's how he rolls. Everything in life he does
has to be risk or he just can't do it,
and he's damn near bad.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
In one thousand, I think he started the phrase go
big or go home. I think that was his. I'm
not sure, but I think it was his.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
Bertie Fratto Artie Spanier, by the way, live at the
Tireck dot Com Studios.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Bernie has a story.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
When he used to cover Ryan Mallod, which was just
tremendously terrible news this week on what happened to him.
We're gonna get to that coming up next, but first
let's see what's trending as we check in with Steve
the Sega one final time.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
What's going on to Sega.
Speaker 7 (26:49):
Well, we'll start with the NFL item from earlier today
that former Arizona Cardinals head coach Vince Tobin passed away
at the age of seventy nine. He coached the nineteen
ninety eight Cards team that won a playoff game at Dallas,
the first postseason victory since nineteen forty seven for the
Cardinals franchise. Before going to Arizona, Tobin was the Bears
defensive coordinator after Buddy Ryan left. Most NFL veterans will
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be reporting to training camp on July twenty fifth, so
about three weeks away. Meanwhile, All Star Mike Trout left
late in the Angels game at San Diego on FS
one tonight, injured on a swing. The left wrist is
the problem, he says. Hopefully it's just a spray. Just
praying for the test results to come back clean. But
it doesn't feel great, very uncomfortable. End quote. San Diego
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beat the Angels ten to three. Xander Bogart's a three
run homer in the first Fernando Tatist Junior three hits,
three RBIs he was notably not added to the All
Star team. Yesterday. Padres had lost seven of eight, but
they beat Trout and Company tonight as the Angels left
fourteen men on base. Seattle was a six to five
winner at San Francisco. The Mariners scored four times in
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the top of the ninth off Closer Camillo Duval did
hit a three run home or bottom of the ninth
to make it close, but the Giants are now four
games back of first place Arizona in the NL West.
Dodgers just two and a half back after winning against
Pittsburgh and All Star pitcher Mitch Keller five to two,
but LA All Star pitcher Clayton Kershaw, with a sore shoulder,
goes on the injured list. He was just selected as
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an NL All Star for the tenth time. All MLB
teams will be in action tomorrow, July the fourth, mostly
day games, just five night games tomorrow. The Mets are
off tonight. You kind of have to mention that because
whoever's co hosting here, I think contractually one has to
be a Mets fan. But Mets just won a series
for the first time in a month last night, so
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things are looking up.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Hey, I named my kids shafe for say stadium.
Speaker 7 (28:42):
As you did, Man, Yes, stadium that does not exist exactly.
Kansas City against Minnesota tomorrow, which will have pitcher Zach
Grank against Kentamaieta ex Dodgers. That would be a great
matchup if it was about twenty eighteen. Oakland twenty three
and sixty three is off tonight. They're at Detroit tomorrow night.
Tampa Bay off tonight yesterday. Ray's pitcher Shane McClanahan eleven
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and one this year All Star game starter a year ago,
was selected as an All Star yesterday, but the day
before he was placed on the injured list with back tightness.
Adley Rushman of Baltimore says he will be in next
week's home run derby. He had three hits for the
O's tonight, but they blew an early three to nothing
lead and the Yanks defeated Baltimore six to three with
a three run homer in the bottom of the eighth
(29:25):
by Harrison Bader. By the way, the Yankee starter tonight
was Dominga Herman, who pitched a perfect game last week.
He gave up in four and a third innings, two
earned runs, nine hits, and The Yanks were down three
to nothing in the fifth, but did come back to win.
The Atlanta Braves won their ninth straight game, four to
two at Cleveland. Winner Bryce Elder is seven and one.
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Ronald Acunya, with his fortieth stolen base already, Michael Harris
hit two solo homers. The Braves just in the last
twenty games have hit fifty four home runs, a major
league record for that span. So the Guardians now one
game back in the ALS Central, behind the Twins, who
won eight to four over Kansas City. The first place
Twins are forty three and forty three. They got five
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runs in the bottom of the eighth tonight, Miami edge
Saint Louis five to four as the Cardinals left ten
men on base. Luisa Riaz of the Marlins went one
for four, batting three eighty eight. Houston today with two
runs top of the ninth one twelve eleven at Texas,
and both Milwaukee and Cincinnati got wins. They're still tied
for first in the NL Central. The Minnesota Timberwolves gave
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Anthony Edwards a five year MAX extension. Center Mason Plumbley
re signed with the Clippers a one year deal Milwaukee
gave Malik Beasley a one year contract. The Las Vegas
Summer League in the NBA starts Friday, but they are
summer league games in Sacramento and Salt Lake City this week.
In Sacramento tonight, the opener went to the Heat over
the Lakers easily, as first rounder Jimi Hawkes from UCLA
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shs twenty two points in twenty two minutes, Lakers first
rounder from Indiana Jalen Hoods Chaffino six of nineteen shooting
fifteen points, and then first rounder for Charlotte Brandon Miller
took the court. His team got clobbered by the Spurs
Miller in the first half this evening of his summer
league debut. So we have to couch it like that.
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It's just a summer league game.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
But if from Mayama did that, they'd be ripping a
mi crazy.
Speaker 7 (31:15):
Yes, absolutely, six fouls in the first half for Miller
one of five shooting. He did wind up with eighteen points,
seven fowls and six turnovers. And in Salt Lake tonight
it was excuse me, it was in Sacramento tonight it
was the Kings on the home court beating Golden State.
Keegan Murray had twenty nine points. The Salt Lake City
game was Utah losing at home to Oklahoma City. Chet
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Holmgren on the court for ok See had fifteen points,
nine rebounds, four blocks. Venus Williams lost her first round
match in straight sets. At Wimbledon, Sophia Cannon eliminated number
seven Coco Goff final item Churchill Downs extended the suspension
for Hall of Fame horse trainer Bob baffertt through next year.
The track says he is unwilling to accept responsibility for
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to bul drug test failures and cannot be trusted back
to you.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
Wow. Thanks Steve, have a good nights and be careful
out there. My friend Bertie Frattos thinking genius right here
on Fox Sports Radio. Bernie, some terrible news by the way,
and we're gonna get to that. But at the end
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Discover dot com. Slash match I said to the story
that when it first came out about Ryan Mallett used
to cover him and it just was so sad to
see what happened to him earlier in the week.
Speaker 5 (32:38):
You know, right, So everybody remembers Ryan Mallett at Arkansas.
He was a big time star, owns a bunch of
passing records and revitalized the program, and of course was
in the NFL Baltimore, Houston, and New England. And you
saw the quotes, the Bill Belichick quote. The impact he's
had on people. Only thirty five years old, people have
most likely forgotten or maybe they didn't even know. Mallett
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actually started his college career at the University of Michigan
in two thousand and seven, and I was there very
much in the media scene. Talked to my good buddy
Dennis fifth you in one of my radio partners with
the Lions pre and postgame show. He still covers the
Michigan football team from the flagship. We talked about Mallet
just last week because back in two thousand and seven,
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when Mallett was a freshman, Lloyd Carr had a charity
car wash and Dennis was there with his little seven
year old niece and she had a football. She wanted
some Michigan players to sign the ball. So she's looking
around and She points to Mallet because Mallett was huge.
I mean, he's probably more like six foot seven. You
know how big JaMarcus Russell was. Well, Mallet was bigger
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than him. Wow, bigger arm, bigger everything about him, big personality.
So she runs up to him and hands him the football.
From afar, we can see their conversing. I don't know
what they're talking about. He kind of kneels down, makes
a big deal over her, signs the ball and she
comes running back to her uncle Dennis and first and
she says, is oh, man, I like him. He's really nice.
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He's my favorite player. We don't forget these things now.
Mallet went on to have a very storied career in
college and did enough small things in the NFL, including
his last one of his I think it was his
last year with Baltimore, not only five and ten, but
they wanted to beat the Steelers in the final game
of the season, and they did, and they gave him
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the game ball, and he's beloved in Baltimore. Bill Belichick
was sad and everybody's talked about him coaching high school
football at Whitehall High School in Arkansas, and he's got
a knack for it. He turned the team around. His
stock in trade is turning young men into real men,
and that's just not a platitude. Malan knew how to
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do it. So I felt compelled wanted to really recognize
him for the impact he's had on people and in
the game of football. And I very much remember him
at the University of Michigan, even though he was only
there one year, and that was a rough year. That
was the year that Michigan lost to Appleaxi.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
And states I'm there.
Speaker 5 (35:04):
In the following week, Oregon comes in with Dennis Dixon.
It just trounces him. Lloyd Carr had six recruits in
the stands. They all change their mind and wanted to
go to Oregon. And the funny thing they turned it around.
They end up beating Tim Tebow in Lloyd's final game.
When Lloyd Carr retired, announced his retirement in November, and
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rich Rod came in with his goofy version of the
RPO that didn't work in the Big ten. Rich Rod
was a disaster. He sat Ryan Mallin down says you're
not my guy. That's why Mallet transferred to Arkansas. Otherwise,
I think you would have had a pretty good career
at Michigan, and that's how that all went down.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
Yeah, I saw that story. I sent it to you,
and you were just absolutely shocked. You couldn't believe it
when they right, well was first out there, you know, so.
Speaker 5 (35:48):
I look, dude, it's thirty five years old and he drowned.
And when you hear a story like that, it's okay.
You want more details. And he was in Florida. You
weren't sure was it the riptize? I don't know. You
just don't feel like you can ever have closure. The
bottom line is this is that he's a young man
that left the legacy and had an impact on everybody
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he was around and touched. And I guess for me,
I feel a little special in that I was a
small part of that with respect to you know, when
you hear these stories, you can say, yep, that's exactly
how I was. I just saw him for a minute,
but in that minute, he made quite an impression.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
And I may rest in peace when we get back, though, Bernie,
we'll finish things off a quick show today. We'll give
you our picks and we'll finish off at some Nathan
hot Dog numbers.
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your tweets, that's the best way to get a hold
of us on the show at Bertie Frado ad stinking genius.
One I did get like a private message, what do
they say a DM And someone said I heard the
other night. Alan says, I heard the other night that
you're in a beef with the Mallard Militia and won't
come back on.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
I'm sorry to hear that because I look.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Forward to you when you're on hanging there and don't
forget us fans.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
You filled in for Ben mallor have you not there,
Bernie or what?
Speaker 5 (01:18):
Ten times? As a matter of fact, I did twice
last week and it's it's a great experience.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Yeah, I love I look, I like the ballor Militia.
I just the two am to six am is just
too much. I mean, if I was on the West
Coast and you're getting done at three o'clock in the morning,
maybe that's a little bit more palatable.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
But it's so hard when you're getting off at six o'clock.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
You know what I mean, Well, you're closing down John
Bajuice and in you're head to work.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
It's not easy.
Speaker 5 (01:44):
It's not easy.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
But I will tell you this, if the Ball of
Militia is listening early tonight, I want you to ask Ben.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
You could ask him to tell you one of two stories.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
One how I made him wash all the cars in
Los Angeles after the Lakers won the championship, which was
something I was supposed to do, but I pawned it
off on him and his partner, So ask him about that,
or if you want a better story, we were in Indianapolis.
Was it the Lakers in Indie Indiana Pacers, I believe,
in the NBA Finals And we were at the same
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hotel and we were out there and Ben and I
were at the hot tub with another guy that was
on the trip, and in walks about, Remember this hot
tub only probably had comfortably could fit six people in,
and then walk eight beautiful women get in.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
The hot tub with us and they're all topless.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
Now I'm gonna leave the story there, and I'm gonna
have Ben pick it up and finish the story on
his show.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Okay, So you'll have to listen to Ben mallor finish.
Speaker 5 (02:42):
That's one that's a tease.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
So have text in the bend saying can you finish
the story about how when you and stinking Genius were
in the hot tub in Indianapolis with eight topless women
and pick it up from there. So it's a pretty
funny story. We'll see what Ben has to say. Right,
he went married at the time, so what difference does
it make. Perty's got nothing to say on that right, like.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
This one man.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Party, by the way, you know, because I heard the
saga doing the updates on Wimbledon. I remember when I
was young, I used to love Wimbledon. I mean I
used to really get into it. You know, you watch
the great and it was the men's and the women's.
It wasn't just men you were watching there, Yeah, some
iconic players. I missed those days. I just don't get
(03:34):
into Wimbledon until the end, and you know, I gotta
know who's in the finals. But it's not like it
was back, and it certainly lost a lot of its cluster.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
You know what I mean. It's well, tennis is a
great sport, it's lost its sluster because well, yeah, that's
a whole different conte But here's why. Name the last
American to win a major, right, right, Andy Roddick, twenty
years ago.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
But we had foreigners.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
We still have you on board that we like, we
had a lot of foreigners back in that day.
Speaker 5 (04:04):
We'll sure you're right on down the line iconic tennis players.
But I think that's that's part of the reason. Although
it still holds up if you take a minute to
watch it. And I watched Serena Williams last year. That
was just some highdrama tennis around Labor Day, right, So,
I mean that was It's the sport in and of
itself is still very dynamic, but it's what I call
(04:27):
the Canadian Football League syndrome. This is one of the
very first things I wrote with Dick Shapp and I
mentored the reason people don't watch a lot of Canadian
Football League. You don't know who's playing. You don't know
what the significance is, right, you don't. You just don't know.
Half the teams are called the rough Riders and you
don't know what the significance. You need the gas House
Gang and the Murders Road, you need significance, right right, Well,
(04:48):
that's what's happening with tennis right now. People don't, I think,
know who the rivalries are. You don't have Borg and Connors.
You don't have Martina Navertilover and Chris McEnroe mac and
right right, you don't have a guy. Look, you jerk,
that was buns. You know what it's all? You got
robots call in line things now, you know other than
the peaches and not peach strawberries and cream they right right,
(05:11):
you know, I'm playing tennis on grass, So I mean, look,
there's a different dynamic. And let's face it, there's a
lot of competition.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
It used to be a bucketless thing to do. I
used to want it very much.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
Yeah, right around this time of year, right around July fourth.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
Yeah, yeah, I love it all right at Bernie Frotto,
I'm it's thinking genius one. Now, Bernie, you want to
talk about this because you're you've been watching like the XFL,
the USFL, and you want the NFL to implement some
of the stuff that they're doing over there.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
Right, Yeah, yeah, here's where I'm going with that. And
and of course, you know, the NFL is an older, established,
stodgy league like the NBA was. Remember the old aber
or any how.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Cool it was right aboutely white and blue ball and
everything else.
Speaker 5 (05:51):
And by the way, what did you say that's a drop?
Never mind after the after the hotel visual. You know
it's right. So let me back up here, because in
all seriousness, who just won the NBA Championship an original
ABA team to Denver Nuggets. So give me a little
latitude here because I'll tie this up in a bow.
(06:11):
So when the ABA shut down. There were a ton
of NBA players that ended up on their rosters, including
six of the ten All Star starters. I think in
nineteen seventy six had been in the ABA the year before, right,
doctor jas I believed you Connie Hawk a ton of them, right.
So then the Spurs were an original ABA team. Well,
the NBA could have ignored them, but they basically copied
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everything the ABA that did accept the red, white and
blue basketball. They really have. The USFL, the original USFL.
They originated the Department of Redundancy department. They originated the
current replay method that the NFL uses now with coaches
challenges and throwing a flag. But the NFL was stodgy.
(06:55):
It took forever to do that. So the XFL lost
sixty twenty three, and you know, full disclosure, I don't
know if I watched half an hour of it the
whole year, but I did follow it. And this is
an important thing, because the XFL initiated a replay method
that I think the NFL really needs to take note on.
(07:16):
So we've all been there. You're watching a game, there's
a call that's challenged, and then you gotta wait it's
examined and it's either going to be upheld or overturned. Right,
And you're sitting there and you're listening to the two
announcers and the color commentator. They go over the slow
motion replays. They go over various angles and repeat, repeat,
you know themselves, over and over, and you're waiting and
waiting and waiting and waiting, and then finally there's the
(07:38):
render decision. What the XFL has done is take you
behind the curtain and let you see how the sausage
is made. Who's running the show is Dan Blandino, so
they are completely transparent in that Blandino is on camera
as the amba list. You get to overhear the conversation
the referees on the field and the booth, and and
(08:00):
you're getting to see the replay angles that they don't
show on TV. So all of a sudden, now this
is incredibly innovative, it's entertaining, it's part of the broadcast,
and critics the transparency of this XFL replay process has
been met with rave reviews because you feel like the
NFL is hiding something. You feel like they don't want
(08:22):
to see that. Everybody loves the transparency. You've got airtime
to fill number one. It adds to the you know,
the viewer participation of the broadcast and the media is intrigued.
So this is a no brainer for me. For the
NFL to at least take a look at and vote
on it would incrementally improve that whole process right away.
(08:44):
Not as far as the USFL, they had something happen
in their in their semi final game between the Maller
Pittsburgh Mallers and the Panthers. I mean, now there's a
there's pure excitement there, right. You get the Mallers and
the Panthers together on a Friday night. Who knows, hey,
forget it baby. But late in the fourth quarter, the
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Malers lead the Panthers twenty to seventeen. Michigan connects on
a fifty five yard touchdown pass they take the lead,
but there was a penalty on the play. The right
tackle for Michigan, a guy named Josh Dunlap. They threw
a flag for a face mask file, so the touchdown
was called back. Here comes the sky judge, a guy
(09:25):
you heard of, Mike Pereira. He looks at the play
and says, wait a minute, there was no face mask foul.
He may have been you know, slightly holding the edge
of the jersey. It was not a face mask file.
The penalty was eliminated, the touchdown was restored. That's significant.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
So you don't have to challenge No, the sky judge.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
Well, you know they review a scoring plays, right, right,
and so yeah, you don't have to challenge it. Ask
the good folks in New Orleans on that non call
on the pass interference against Range that one year when
they to ask him about that, and the NFL would
have had no fix, all right, and you had the
sideline you know, you know, plague with the Chiefs and
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the Bengals a couple years ago. I don't want to
go on and on about that. Here's the point. If
NFL decision makers were watching that game, because what Perira
did to clean that call up, to make sure the
call is right in the most critical moment of a
divisional game. This is for the right to go to
the championship game. It made the game better. And guess
who the analyst was on the game, Jason Garrett. He said,
this is really easy. The crew handled it the right way.
(10:31):
Justice for all the NFL really needs to look at this. Now.
The moral of the story is Pittsburgh still end up
winning the game, but they won the game because of
the reference on the field, not because they had a
negative consequence of human error and lucked out because the
refs missed one. You put those two things together, I
don't know anybody who wouldn't want to see both of
those things. Let's put our fan hat on right now,
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wouldn't you. How do you feel about that? Aren't you?
Because I don't see why the NFL doesn't at least
consis or those things. Unless again, now you know why
I brought up the ABA and why I brought up
the original USFL. These older leagues, if they didn't think
of it first, clearly they're a little you know, there's
a little snooty about policy changes like this.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
I knew about the behind the curtain thing with the
officials on replay, and I would love to see that
in the NFL. I'd love to go ahead and hear
the process, what they're doing, what they're looking at, the
different angle stuff that we can see. I think that'd
be fantastic party. I think a lot of people would
love to go ahead and see that and get a
better feel of what's happening on that I think that'd
be fantastic.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
You know, I think it would not only be fantastic
in terms of getting the call right and having the
proper outcome. But think about it again, let's go back
to the XFL one. Yeah, nobody likes the process in
terms of how you go from start to finish on
whether a call is upheld or overturned. You wait and
wait and wait, and they show it again in slow motion,
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and you say to yourself, Okay, come on, if it's
taken this long, don't change it. And by the way,
eighty three percent of calls aren't overturned. And when I
did the Ben Meer Show last week, Eddie Garcia and
I talked about this. Eddie Garcia brought up a really
good point. He says, if you're gonna show the replay
showing at high speed the way the ref saw it,
don't slow it down and create multiple different angles. All
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that does is add more confusion because the game is
not playing slow motion. I thought that made a lot
of sense. The point of the matter is there's a
clunky way of doing this. I'm so nonplus with this
whole damn thing. I wouldn't care if they eliminated a
replay all together because I don't like the process.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
Yeah, real quick, I want to tell you, because you
brought up the ABA and the NBA a real quick story.
When I first moved to California, you know, I was,
I was just like, what like ten years old, eleven
years old, and I'm walking around in Brentwood and I'm like,
oh my goodness, there's Kareem Abdul Jabbar and it's just
being him around.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
I go, Kareem, can I get draw atograph? And he
just keeps all walking. I go, Karee, please, can I
get drawtograph? I get dra autograph? He's like this, son,
I'm not cream up though, Jamarco.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
Come on, stop it. I need your autograph. Please please
give me your autograph? Creep And the guy stops. He signs it,
and I look at it. I go, Julia Servic, who
the hell are you?
Speaker 5 (13:15):
Man?
Speaker 3 (13:16):
The idea? I just threw it on the ground and
walked away.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
You know, well, that's beautiful. You remember, okay, we talked
real quick. We talked about Marvin bad News Barnes a
couple hours ago. Right, Yeah, remember the Bob cost this
story when Costas was doing play by play for the
Old Saint Louis spirits and Marvin bad News Barnes, who
could really play, by the way I get I.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Played up in Seattle.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
I believe the next incredible score. Oh my god, he'd
been incredible in today's game. So I tell his story
in my book from the Chief seats. So Barnes, you
know when a team takes a road trip on't they're
all handed in itinerary right for the entire when the
flights leave and land and the hotels blah blah blah.
So Marvin, they're in Philadelphia to get ready to fly
(13:56):
back to Saint Louis, and Barnes gets his itinerary true story.
He's staring at it. He's all concerned. He goes up
to Bob Costs. He goes, Bob, look at this. Our
flight departs Philadelphia at eleven ten am. It arrives in
Saint Louis at eleven am. Bob, I ain't getting on
no time machine. Apparently Marvin was not real well versed
(14:21):
in times zones had lots of characters like that.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
I love that.
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Bernie preseason around the corner of the what is the
winning streak right now for the Ravens in the preseason.
Speaker 5 (17:55):
Baltimore Ravens have won twenty three straight preseason games, but.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
How many have they covered?
Speaker 5 (18:02):
Though? That's the question twenty twenty two and one.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
That's insane because.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
They want to win, aren'ty? For years you've been saying it.
So I'm coming up on my five year anniversary on
the network and I was on with you and Aaron
every Saturday night going back to twenty eighteen. You always
would say the preseason is the free season. Okay, You're
not wrong. It's far easier to bet the NFL preseason
than the regular season. And if you don't believe me,
(18:33):
go into a sportsbook and ask yourself why the limits
on a preseason game are about five percent of what
the limits are on a regular season game. Multiple reasons why,
the most being it's the only professional sporting event you'll
see where one side wants to win and the other
side doesn't care if they win. And if you understand
(18:55):
which coaches like John Harbaugh really want to win in
the preseason, especially first year coaches in their first home game,
the Hall of Fame game, it's gone under seven of
the last nine years, only three teams have scored more
than twenty points during that time period, and only one
team trailing at halftime has come back to win in
(19:16):
the last thirteen years. They're not taking that game seriously.
Half the guys in these games are gonna be working
at nap all the parts next month. Now nothing. He
gets sad. That's good Christian guy, who's that's good clean work.
But they're not NFL players.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
Does it change out it's going to be three preseason games.
Does that make it more valuable or no?
Speaker 5 (19:34):
Keeps it the same. Doesn't really matter. There's no real
difference because you have the same dynamics. For instance, look
at their rosters and their quarterback rotation and their depth
and their style. When you have teams that have quarterback
battles and you're going to put one to three quarterbacks
in the field, you might have a quarterback in a
third or fourth quarter in a preseason game who's a
(19:55):
seven year NFL veteran. He just trying to hang around
get a few more paychecks, right, right. So you look
at rosters, you look at cluster injuries, you look at coaches,
you look at situations like first year coach, first year game.
It all comes down to motivation. For example, teams that
struggled the previous year in the regular season, teams that
(20:15):
were winless in the preseason, all those are potential betting
opportunities because there are added motivations. Find the teams that
are motivated exploit that opportunity. Baltimore Ravens twenty three in
a row. You know they want to keep it going, right.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
Are there sharps out there that are just betting balt
Like Vegas sharps are all over the Ravens and change
outline big time or.
Speaker 5 (20:37):
What well that yeah, that does happen. Actually, that's another point.
You look at the key numbers. They're very valuable in
the regular season. The key numbers in football three, four, six,
and seven, and a number moving a half a point
off for three is more important than the line going
from say four to six, because five is a dead number.
But you look in the preseason, the key numbers are
(20:58):
one and two because no team ever wants to go
to overtime for fear of additional injury risk. So teams
that might be in the they might be able to
tie the game of an extra point. Hell, they'll go
for a two point conversion, so though they're lose by
one or win by one rather than go overtime. So
all of a sudden, the line that's one or two
is more significant than a line that's three or four.
(21:19):
And you usually don't see lines more than six. If
you see a team getting six points or more, you
typically want to look hard at the dog unless there's
some other situation.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
Wow, I didn't know they covered the spread that much, Bernie,
that's crazy.
Speaker 5 (21:32):
Oh yeah, oh sure, sure, and it's all researchable. Look,
the key concept, though, is coaching history. If you blindly
bet on Harbaugh and the Raids, the Ravens in the
last twenty three preseason games, they're twenty three to zero
and they're twenty two and one against the spread because
they valued the preseason. They prioritize winning more so than
most teams. All Right, a preseason better you just blindly back.
(21:54):
The Ravens could have come back and bite into butt
this year. Maybe, But why is baltim We're gonna change
your Philosophiel. So they've got Lamar Jackson back and he
may not even play in the preseason, but there's a
different dynamic and a different culture, and what you want
to do is get on these games before the line
moves you don't want to chase the line, but it's
it's a much different dynamic. It's a real great opportunity
(22:16):
to make money. And it used to make bug me
when I hear people in other networks saying, oh, by
oh you bet preseason football, you got a problem. No, yeah,
that's just not true. That that is an uninformed remark.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
Yeah, I'm gonna get a shirt that says the preseason
is the preseason and see if I could go ahead
and market that now speaking about not playing, and I
hate to do this to you and the listeners too,
but it is a story.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
This week.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
Plank and I talked about it last night. Colin Kaepernick.
He says he stayed in shape and he's ready for
his chance. You know, I said to this the Plank
last night. I said, look, if he was really serious,
money aside, and you got to a point where it
doesn't look like he's ever gonna get into the NFL
again unless he does something drastic. I would have played
in the Arena Football League of the Canadian Football and say, hey,
(23:01):
look at be looking be Look how great I'm doing.
Maybe I'll get a shot back in the NFL. I
don't think he's really that serious about coming back to
the NFL at all?
Speaker 3 (23:08):
What do you think?
Speaker 5 (23:10):
You know? I don't know what's going on between the years,
but I know he's not a prospect anymore, and he
hasn't been for quite a long time. There's no question
if you go back to twenty eleven twenty twelve, he
had a nice run there. Certainly was keen helping the
forty nine ers get back to the super Bowl, and
all of a sudden, now I gotta tell your Arnie,
(23:31):
my tenures are covering the lines in Detroit, Pre and
Post I had some of the most intelligent conversations. There's
so many smart people in the NFL. Where am I
going with that? They took a look at him, broke
him down, and they realized, if you blitz Colin Kaepernick,
he's gonna make you miss seventy two percent of the time.
And when he makes you miss and the play breaks down,
that's where Colin Kaepernick is at his best. You make
him sit in the pocket and pick a part of defense,
(23:54):
that's where he struggles. Champ Bailey said it. He said,
he's the easiest quarterback he's ever had to play against
because you tell him everything. So all of a sudden.
As time went on and defense has learned what to do,
he ended up being sixteen down the stretch. He became
characterized as a glorified read option only quarterback whose time
had passed. And let me tell you, coaches want to
(24:15):
win in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
There, I thought the Raiders wanted to give him a
chance to or no, that's well, they.
Speaker 5 (24:19):
Made that statement. Of course, Colin Kaepernick deserves to be
in someone's camp, and.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
They didn't want to go ahead and deal with the headache.
Speaker 5 (24:28):
You know. Well, you know I talked to Jim Fossil
about that. God rest is holy like Colin Kaepernick. And
you know, Colin Kaepernick h he will go down in history,
his legacy secure. I think he had his moment in
time and he made some choices and and you know,
I'm not judging him for what he did, but Jim
Fossil once said, look, when you're the team's quarterback, it's
a little different dynamic because if you polarize the fan
(24:50):
base and you're the quarterback into the face of the franchise,
that can sometimes you know, cost people to swallow hard.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
Yeah, well, unfortunately, we'll see what happens there and one
other things. I don't know if you heard this, Jerry
Jones on the verge of signing a deal with Netflix.
It's gonna pay him just like on the fifty million
dollars for ten episodes. I love Jerry Jones, I love
everything about it. But do I have to go ahead
to get it in ten episodes? Can I cut it
down the five or something like that? Do I need
it in ten episodes?
Speaker 5 (25:16):
You know I was thinking the same thing. You know,
what are they gonna do? Start when he was in kindergarten?
Ten ten episodes? You know you could do maybe ten
episodes on what how they heil him? And Jimmy Johnson
screwed that damn thing up? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (25:28):
Yeah, I had it won fire.
Speaker 5 (25:29):
Barry Switzer came in and won a Super Bowl with
Jimmi's players, right.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
So yeah, I would like to see that.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
But hey, I'll tell you some of the best interviews
I've had is when I was in Dallas and used
to have Jerry Jones on.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
He's just a fun guy. He really is.
Speaker 5 (25:43):
He's he like him, I really do. He's been good
for the league. I honestly think he's been good for
the Cowboys on balance and I'll tell you. One of
the most fascinating interviews I saw him give was on
HBO back in twenty oh nine, the year before I
left Michigan. He talked about how truly scared he was
when he built that stadium him could he fill it
every year? Could he pay the rent? Was he gonna
(26:04):
lose everything? And it was a tremendous interview and the
risk he took. Obviously, it's been a huge success. And
he started out his career as a wildcatter in oil
and he got lucky a few times, but he's admitted
that that's how he rolls. Everything in life he does
has to be risk or he just can't do it,
and he's damn near bad.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
In one thousand, I think he started the phrase go
big or go home. I think that was his. I'm
not sure, but I think it was his.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
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Bernie has a story.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
When he used to cover Ryan Mallod, which was just
tremendously terrible news this week on what happened to him.
We're gonna get to that coming up next, but first
let's see what's trending as we check in with Steve
the Sega one final time.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
What's going on to Sega.
Speaker 7 (26:49):
Well, we'll start with the NFL item from earlier today
that former Arizona Cardinals head coach Vince Tobin passed away
at the age of seventy nine. He coached the nineteen
ninety eight Cards team that won a playoff game at Dallas,
the first postseason victory since nineteen forty seven for the
Cardinals franchise. Before going to Arizona, Tobin was the Bears
defensive coordinator after Buddy Ryan left. Most NFL veterans will
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be reporting to training camp on July twenty fifth, so
about three weeks away. Meanwhile, All Star Mike Trout left
late in the Angels game at San Diego on FS
one tonight, injured on a swing. The left wrist is
the problem, he says. Hopefully it's just a spray. Just
praying for the test results to come back clean. But
it doesn't feel great, very uncomfortable. End quote. San Diego
(27:35):
beat the Angels ten to three. Xander Bogart's a three
run homer in the first Fernando Tatist Junior three hits,
three RBIs he was notably not added to the All
Star team. Yesterday. Padres had lost seven of eight, but
they beat Trout and Company tonight as the Angels left
fourteen men on base. Seattle was a six to five
winner at San Francisco. The Mariners scored four times in
(27:57):
the top of the ninth off Closer Camillo Duval did
hit a three run home or bottom of the ninth
to make it close, but the Giants are now four
games back of first place Arizona in the NL West.
Dodgers just two and a half back after winning against
Pittsburgh and All Star pitcher Mitch Keller five to two,
but LA All Star pitcher Clayton Kershaw, with a sore shoulder,
goes on the injured list. He was just selected as
(28:19):
an NL All Star for the tenth time. All MLB
teams will be in action tomorrow, July the fourth, mostly
day games, just five night games tomorrow. The Mets are
off tonight. You kind of have to mention that because
whoever's co hosting here, I think contractually one has to
be a Mets fan. But Mets just won a series
for the first time in a month last night, so
(28:39):
things are looking up.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Hey, I named my kids shafe for say stadium.
Speaker 7 (28:42):
As you did, Man, Yes, stadium that does not exist exactly.
Kansas City against Minnesota tomorrow, which will have pitcher Zach
Grank against Kentamaieta ex Dodgers. That would be a great
matchup if it was about twenty eighteen. Oakland twenty three
and sixty three is off tonight. They're at Detroit tomorrow night.
Tampa Bay off tonight yesterday. Ray's pitcher Shane McClanahan eleven
(29:04):
and one this year All Star game starter a year ago,
was selected as an All Star yesterday, but the day
before he was placed on the injured list with back tightness.
Adley Rushman of Baltimore says he will be in next
week's home run derby. He had three hits for the
O's tonight, but they blew an early three to nothing
lead and the Yanks defeated Baltimore six to three with
a three run homer in the bottom of the eighth
(29:25):
by Harrison Bader. By the way, the Yankee starter tonight
was Dominga Herman, who pitched a perfect game last week.
He gave up in four and a third innings, two
earned runs, nine hits, and The Yanks were down three
to nothing in the fifth, but did come back to win.
The Atlanta Braves won their ninth straight game, four to
two at Cleveland. Winner Bryce Elder is seven and one.
(29:46):
Ronald Acunya, with his fortieth stolen base already, Michael Harris
hit two solo homers. The Braves just in the last
twenty games have hit fifty four home runs, a major
league record for that span. So the Guardians now one
game back in the ALS Central, behind the Twins, who
won eight to four over Kansas City. The first place
Twins are forty three and forty three. They got five
(30:07):
runs in the bottom of the eighth tonight, Miami edge
Saint Louis five to four as the Cardinals left ten
men on base. Luisa Riaz of the Marlins went one
for four, batting three eighty eight. Houston today with two
runs top of the ninth one twelve eleven at Texas,
and both Milwaukee and Cincinnati got wins. They're still tied
for first in the NL Central. The Minnesota Timberwolves gave
(30:27):
Anthony Edwards a five year MAX extension. Center Mason Plumbley
re signed with the Clippers a one year deal Milwaukee
gave Malik Beasley a one year contract. The Las Vegas
Summer League in the NBA starts Friday, but they are
summer league games in Sacramento and Salt Lake City this week.
In Sacramento tonight, the opener went to the Heat over
the Lakers easily, as first rounder Jimi Hawkes from UCLA
(30:49):
shs twenty two points in twenty two minutes, Lakers first
rounder from Indiana Jalen Hoods Chaffino six of nineteen shooting
fifteen points, and then first rounder for Charlotte Brandon Miller
took the court. His team got clobbered by the Spurs
Miller in the first half this evening of his summer
league debut. So we have to couch it like that.
(31:11):
It's just a summer league game.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
But if from Mayama did that, they'd be ripping a
mi crazy.
Speaker 7 (31:15):
Yes, absolutely, six fouls in the first half for Miller
one of five shooting. He did wind up with eighteen points,
seven fowls and six turnovers. And in Salt Lake tonight
it was excuse me, it was in Sacramento tonight it
was the Kings on the home court beating Golden State.
Keegan Murray had twenty nine points. The Salt Lake City
game was Utah losing at home to Oklahoma City. Chet
(31:37):
Holmgren on the court for ok See had fifteen points,
nine rebounds, four blocks. Venus Williams lost her first round
match in straight sets. At Wimbledon, Sophia Cannon eliminated number
seven Coco Goff final item Churchill Downs extended the suspension
for Hall of Fame horse trainer Bob baffertt through next year.
The track says he is unwilling to accept responsibility for
(32:00):
to bul drug test failures and cannot be trusted back
to you.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
Wow. Thanks Steve, have a good nights and be careful
out there. My friend Bertie Frattos thinking genius right here
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Discover dot com. Slash match I said to the story
that when it first came out about Ryan Mallett used
to cover him and it just was so sad to
see what happened to him earlier in the week.
Speaker 5 (32:38):
You know, right, So everybody remembers Ryan Mallett at Arkansas.
He was a big time star, owns a bunch of
passing records and revitalized the program, and of course was
in the NFL Baltimore, Houston, and New England. And you
saw the quotes, the Bill Belichick quote. The impact he's
had on people. Only thirty five years old, people have
most likely forgotten or maybe they didn't even know. Mallett
(33:01):
actually started his college career at the University of Michigan
in two thousand and seven, and I was there very
much in the media scene. Talked to my good buddy
Dennis fifth you in one of my radio partners with
the Lions pre and postgame show. He still covers the
Michigan football team from the flagship. We talked about Mallet
just last week because back in two thousand and seven,
(33:21):
when Mallett was a freshman, Lloyd Carr had a charity
car wash and Dennis was there with his little seven
year old niece and she had a football. She wanted
some Michigan players to sign the ball. So she's looking
around and She points to Mallet because Mallett was huge.
I mean, he's probably more like six foot seven. You
know how big JaMarcus Russell was. Well, Mallet was bigger
(33:42):
than him. Wow, bigger arm, bigger everything about him, big personality.
So she runs up to him and hands him the football.
From afar, we can see their conversing. I don't know
what they're talking about. He kind of kneels down, makes
a big deal over her, signs the ball and she
comes running back to her uncle Dennis and first and
she says, is oh, man, I like him. He's really nice.
(34:04):
He's my favorite player. We don't forget these things now.
Mallet went on to have a very storied career in
college and did enough small things in the NFL, including
his last one of his I think it was his
last year with Baltimore, not only five and ten, but
they wanted to beat the Steelers in the final game
of the season, and they did, and they gave him
(34:25):
the game ball, and he's beloved in Baltimore. Bill Belichick
was sad and everybody's talked about him coaching high school
football at Whitehall High School in Arkansas, and he's got
a knack for it. He turned the team around. His
stock in trade is turning young men into real men,
and that's just not a platitude. Malan knew how to
(34:45):
do it. So I felt compelled wanted to really recognize
him for the impact he's had on people and in
the game of football. And I very much remember him
at the University of Michigan, even though he was only
there one year, and that was a rough year. That
was the year that Michigan lost to Appleaxi.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
And states I'm there.
Speaker 5 (35:04):
In the following week, Oregon comes in with Dennis Dixon.
It just trounces him. Lloyd Carr had six recruits in
the stands. They all change their mind and wanted to
go to Oregon. And the funny thing they turned it around.
They end up beating Tim Tebow in Lloyd's final game.
When Lloyd Carr retired, announced his retirement in November, and
(35:25):
rich Rod came in with his goofy version of the
RPO that didn't work in the Big ten. Rich Rod
was a disaster. He sat Ryan Mallin down says you're
not my guy. That's why Mallet transferred to Arkansas. Otherwise,
I think you would have had a pretty good career
at Michigan, and that's how that all went down.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
Yeah, I saw that story. I sent it to you,
and you were just absolutely shocked. You couldn't believe it
when they right, well was first out there, you know, so.
Speaker 5 (35:48):
I look, dude, it's thirty five years old and he drowned.
And when you hear a story like that, it's okay.
You want more details. And he was in Florida. You
weren't sure was it the riptize? I don't know. You
just don't feel like you can ever have closure. The
bottom line is this is that he's a young man
that left the legacy and had an impact on everybody
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he was around and touched. And I guess for me,
I feel a little special in that I was a
small part of that with respect to you know, when
you hear these stories, you can say, yep, that's exactly
how I was. I just saw him for a minute,
but in that minute, he made quite an impression.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
And I may rest in peace when we get back, though, Bernie,
we'll finish things off a quick show today. We'll give
you our picks and we'll finish off at some Nathan
hot Dog numbers.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
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I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
Ding dong! Join your culture consultants, Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang, on an unforgettable journey into the beating heart of CULTURE. Alongside sizzling special guests, they GET INTO the hottest pop-culture moments of the day and the formative cultural experiences that turned them into Culturistas. Produced by the Big Money Players Network and iHeartRadio.
Crime Junkie
Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.