July 11, 2023 • 51 mins
Jason Smith and Aaron Torres get you all caught up on the HR Derby and give you different ways to improve it. The guys tell explain why the MLB All-Star festivities are superior to the NBA’s. Longtime NFL Insider Jason La Canfora says NO WAY to Andrew Luck being a Hall Of Famer. Plus, all the latest on the Blazers saying a Damian Lillard trade could takes months.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:30):
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as promised at I said, Ay, the Mets had not lost,
but since you could do in the show, great and
obviously you are the good luck charm because what happened
he finished our show Friday night, the Mets in one.
What happened? They lose Saturday, they lose Sunday so now
you're back, we're gonna figure something out here because as
long as obviously are the key to the whole Mets thing.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
You told me that as long as they won Monday
through Friday, I'm back in.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
So you know, no, I'm talking about expanding. I'm talking
about expanding now because obviously you're even a bigger part
of this than I thought. Okay, well, yeah, yeah, you're bigger. Yeah.
This is like when you find out the plot in
the movie goes bigger than you thought it was. Hey,
this goes bigger than the chief of police. This goes
all the way up to the Senate. Right, that's this
part where you think, okay, wait, this goes a little
bit bigger because clearly it's not just about this is
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when he is here during the week and it's working, okay,
and now on the weekends when you weren't there, Boom,
look what happened. Listen.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
I have to say this, Okay. I like Mike Harmon
a lot. It's clear that I have some power that
I didn't even realize I have, because when I'm in
the Mets can't lose. And Harmon leaves for seventy two
hours in his whole football program, the one team that
I know Harmon loves.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Oh, he completely falls apart.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Oh, I didn't know that I had this much power.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
We'll see what happens.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
You know, I don't know if you want to start
booking your Super Bowl tickets for the Jets yet. I mean,
assuming you keep me in, we'll see, We'll see if
you keep your word.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Well, let's see, Eyracuse way. Now wait, wait, now, let's see.
You need to see if you extend past the Mets
and into the Jets. I mean, you may just just
be a Mets thing, you know. I don't know. I
mean you could be you could be in everything thing,
but you could just be a Met. Never want to
just be a Mets thing.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Eric Syracuse, I mean, do I have to? Now, pu am,
I do I have to guarantee a Syracuse a Final
four spot? I mean, how does this all work?
Speaker 1 (02:30):
I'm confed. Okay, if you can do that, and well, okay,
let's let let's just guarantee that as well. Just guarantee,
just guarant yes, we're gonna get Mellow's kid, and that's
gonna work. And then Agrian Autry is taking us to
the Final four. That's how it's gonna work.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
That's what Torus says.
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Syracuse in the final four. I'm feeling pretty good so far.
The Jets is big, though, Let's see if you still
have that Jets power.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
And poor Harmon's Northwestern Wildcats.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
So I'm sure we'll talk about at some point.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
By the way, if Harmon needs to call in and
do a little therapy session. Yeah, I don't mind.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Oh I can't. I can't do it. Rothburg just throwing
the gauntlet down.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Yeah, I was gonna say I was gonna step aside.
I mean, his name is still on the show, but.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Like he says, still it's still on the You're like,
you're like Crypto dot Com, Hey, can we get those
letters of Staples down. We gotta put the crypto. Just
put those Staples letters someplace. Just Harmon Crypto, put the crypto.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
So you're saying Harmon is crypto dot com and I'm Staples.
I'm I'm more like I guess I'm what's next, I'm
not Staples.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Yeah no, no, no, you more, You're you're more, You're
more crypto. Yeah no, no, you're definitely more crypto.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Who wanted Harmon be crypto because the name is still
on the building, but he but they're no longer there?
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Yeah. Wow, See I can't argue with logic. That's very different.
All right, all right, well let's learn they are there though,
let's it is it is? Well, look what when what's
crypto dot Com? Goes belly up? Just gonna bring those
letters back out and put them back on it. It's
Staple Center again, but they're not paying. That's money. Doesn't
matter at Staple Center. But they're not paid, doesn't matter,
It's Staple Center. Sounds gonna work, I guess.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
So yeah, I don't know, poor Armin. That's the theme
of the early part of the show.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
So here we are right now, getting close to the
finals of the home run derby. Randy of Rose Arena
is in thirty five home runs. In the semifinals, he
could potentially take on Julio Rodriguez, who is getting set
to battle for his spot in the finals. And here's
the thing. He's got to beat lad Guerrero Junior forty
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one home runs in the first round of the Home
Run Derby. He is Pete Alonzo's kryptonite. Pete A. Lonzo
is not lost to anybody in the Home Run Derby
except for Julio Rodriguez. And now here's Jay rod on
his way potentially to the finals in Seattle. G went
a surprise. The guy from the hometown team is going
to end up in the finals in the Home Run Derby.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Can I ask you a random question, Jason on this
against the wall? Why has MLB seemingly figured out a
way to make Home Run Derby still awesome every single year?
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Yet the Dunk Contest is essentially unwatchable.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
And I know it was a little bit better this
year with Mac McClung, but it's like, it's just interesting,
Like the Home Run Derby is as awesome as ever.
The ratings are through the roof. Everybody loves it, you know.
Obviously we're watching Rodriguez in the in the studio earlier.
It was fun to watch. It's just interesting how like
the two events have gone in I don't say completely
different directions, because I don't know if the home run
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derby is as big as it was in the Ken
Griffey Junior Mark McGuire days, but it hasn't kind of
taken the step back the way that the dunk contest has.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
No, honestly, honestly, it's it's pretty easy. And if NBA
players cared a little bit more about the dunk contest,
but clearly they don't because the stars don't do it.
You just said right here, Julio Rodriguez, who is one
of the big up and coming stars in all of
Major League Baseball? Is he the biggest star?
Speaker 4 (05:55):
No?
Speaker 1 (05:55):
But is he a star? Is he big? Is he
up and coming? Yeah? And you talked about Matt mac mcclunk, right.
I mean, who's gonna nobody tunes into All Stars Saturday
Night anymore? Because who's the dunk contest? It's nobody that
anybody knows. It's nobody that even the average basketball fan knows, Like, wait,
what team is this guy on?
Speaker 4 (06:13):
No?
Speaker 1 (06:13):
No, but he dunk's great. Look at his highlights on YouTube.
Well that's great. That's what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Because wasn't even in the NBA when they when they
put him in the dunk contest for what it's worth.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
So I don't even know. I don't know. I don't
know what to say to the NBA. It's like, hey,
why won't your stars do it? Why are they are? They?
Are they that narcissistic that if they have a bad time,
if they dunk, they're gonna get any fun of And
I don't want the video up of me. But you
look at it's the biggest stars. It's the biggest stars
in Major League Baseball who want to do it? Pete
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Alonso is a big star, right, Vlad Junior is a
big star. Jay Rod is a big star. Randy Roserta
is a big enough star as you can see in
Tampa Bay. So do you have big names? And it's
not like you need all of the biggest of the
big stars. You don't need Bryce Harper and Mike Trout
and O'tanian in all the home You don't need them all.
But you need some kind of big names that people
know right like you. You don't need to say, hey,
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it's got to be honest, and Lebron and and and
Jason Tatum in the slam Dunk contest. But if it
was Jalen Brown in the slam dunk contest. That's that's
pretty cool. If it was James Harden slam like if
he could unk. Sorry, I got to bring up somebody
can doe? If if if it was stars that could
that that you'd like to see in the slam dunk contest. Okay, great,
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like that that would be said. People would tune in
because they want to see what the stars do. It's
really simple.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
You know.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
This is why we watched the home run derby and
why All Stars Saturday Night is just yeah, okay, great,
we saw some threes, we saw some dunks, all right,
that's awesome. Two things.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
One, you know, because of the time slot that I'm in,
I'm in this time slot on Saturdays, I have one.
I'm the only one that still watches All Star Saturday. Uh,
and it is pretty unwatchable. I was telling producer Danny
g he was in studio before he does a you know,
great job with Cavino and Rich. I was telling him
my theory on the dunk contest is and I know
it's tonight's MLB's night, but I said to him, I said,
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the dunk contest, they should make it like hard knocks.
You know how hard knocks. You're required if the league
asks you, you have to do it. I don't know
about you know, Lebron at thirty eight, but I say,
like your first two to three years in the league,
if the NBA says you're in, you're in.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Jaw, You're in.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Everybody wants to see you, your young rising star Zion.
I don't care how big your shoe deal is and
how bad it's for your brand. If you don't win,
you're in. So I'll tell you what I think. I
just saved the dunk contest. I will save this awful
nd season tournament later if you'll allow me to. And
I swear I didn't mean to make this takeaway from
Major League Baseball's spotlight right now, but I was just
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thinking about it as I watch. It is like the
home run derby is always entertaining, it's always fun, and
the the slam dunk contest never is.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Now, you just killed You just killed everything. You just
did everything. You're like a weed killer in the backyard.
All the big weeds dandelione did get you killed them.
You killed them all.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
They got families, Aron they got families. Who's got families?
These basketball players. Yeah, don't you know Zion's got a
family common don't you know that, right?
Speaker 1 (09:04):
I mean I do.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Yeah, I've seen his I've seen his girlfriend's tweets up,
up and down and left and right and uh yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
And look, the one thing you know about Zion, even
when he's not playing, he can dunk. Because that's the
one thing we do is we get videos of him
dunking like a lunatic, right, like, oh, but he still
can't come play. But look at him, dunk boy, he's
still getting dunk So I know he could do that
even if he can't play.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
A single elimination game with the season on the line. Yeah, well,
I'll come back when Zion feels like Zion, I'll come back.
But you're dunking in the layup line before the game.
We don't need to do the Zion monologue tonight, but
I will tell you I'm so over that guy. Like,
just either either play or I don't need interviews with you.
I don't need like that because I was on air.
You know, you and Mike must have been traveling or something,
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because I remember being on air with Arnie Spanier. I
think it was either the night before that game when
Zion did that press conference where he said Zion's not
feeling like Zion, and I just remember being on air
and being like, this guy is such a clown man.
He's such a clown and they should force him to
do the duncan.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
So are you.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Strictly over to the on game, like on the court
stuff or off the court everything. I don't I don't
need an update everyone off the court stuff too.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Actually that's proved. That's actually pretty entertaining.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
Do you not?
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Did you stop following Mariah Mills on Twitter? Did you
see if she jumped over to threads?
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Because I that might get threads. That might give me
to sign up for threads. I still have not signed
up for threads yet. That might get me to do it. Yeah,
I just you know, like like in and listen. I
understand NBA reporters have a job to do. But when
it's like when I get the the shams alert, Zion's
still not ready for full five, Like, I don't need it.
I know he's not ready. I'm just gonna assume that
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he's not playing until I see him, and then like
I just I couldn't care less about that. And then
you know there's all sorts of reports about what he
relationship with the team. It's like, you're not good enough.
You haven't done enough to not have a relationship with
the team. Here's an idea. If the coach tells you something,
maybe you should do it. If the training staff tells
you to do do something, maybe you should do it.
So anyway, kind of over that guy. This all started
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with the home run derby and now I'm just on
a Zion ret forgive me.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Twitter, and how about a fresca Aaron and Aaron underscore
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the home run derby, we are getting close to the final.
Julio Rodriguez has just finished eighteen home runs and they're
in between rounds now In. Vlad Guerrero Junior needs more
than eighteen, needs nineteen to make it to the finals
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against the Rose Arena. Now here's what I'm hoping because
because this is what I did before the season, I
can never go to Sea I can't travel to Seattle
right now because before the season I said the Mariners
are going to the World Series and Jay Rod's going
to be the al MVP, And all the Mariners have
done so far is disappoint and show that Wait, there's
everybody else in the division, even the Angels may be
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better than us, and Julia Rodriguez has just been okay.
So I am hoping this is a springboard for jay
Rod to win the al MVP, because that can still happen,
because can you still give a Tani the MVP if
he ends up in the National League for the last
two months. I don't know. I'm just asking for a
friend right now. So I'm hoping that this is now
what jay Rod jumps on and he goes to win
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the al MVP. Like I said before the season, Uh yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
I mean, I have no fundamental issue with that. I
mean I'm just, you know, just thinking about across the league. Yeah, obviously,
like you said, the Mariners are struggling there in third
place right now. Did you know, obviously Otani I still
think is the front runner. I know, you think he'll
be a Dodger before the time we're done with this show.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Uh now, Dodger. After this year, They're not going to
train him with the Dodgers. It's going to be somebody
else for the last two months of the year, and
then it'll be the Dodgers at the end of this year,
like that when MOOKI when they were shaking head like
with him and Mookie Bets were shaking hands and second
Baits the other night is hey, we'll see in a
couple of months. Like I think I actually read Mookie
Betts as I said, I'll see you in a couple
of months, And I think he actually passed on a
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piece of paper that he could sign that says you
know that this could happen right here. So it's not
they won't train him with the Dodgers now, but they will.
But that's where that's where he will likely end up
in the offseason. That's interesting.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
I mean that part isn't as interesting because obviously that's
a lot of the speculation. It'd be interesting to see
somebody trade for him without a guarantee of keeping him
this offseason.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
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for Harmon. Coming up next, we'll have more on the
Major League Baseball home run derby vlad Guerrero Junior getting
ready to hit. We just see Jay Rod getting told
Jay Rod's got his thirty second bonus, So we have
that to go before Vlad goes to hit. So we'll
keep you updated there. But coming up next maybe the
(13:29):
most interesting Hall of Fame debate that I've heard this year.
We'll get into that coming up next. Keep it right here,
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yourself at discovered dot com slash match. We'll have more
on the Major League Baseball home run derby coming up
in a couple minutes, but set to have some big
NFL talk here, And you know, normally at when we
have Hall of Fame debates, I kind of tune out
because as so much so, as you know, we let
in a lot of players who are now just really good,
(15:24):
and you know, the Hall of very good, and sometimes
guys can play really well for four years and get in,
like Terrell Davis. But I got to say today the
debate that was firing up social media, I loved the
Andrew Luck now five years removed the last time he
played in the NFL. Is Andrew Luck a Hall of famer?
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This is a debate joining us Now I'm the hotline
a man who now I know is a switch hitting
NFL insider for Odyssey and the Washington Post. He is
the ADLEI Rushman of insiders. It is Jason Locking for
what's happening? Buddy?
Speaker 4 (16:00):
What's going on? Gentlemen?
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Dude? Not a lot, not a lot more impressive than
hitting home runs from both sides of the plate in
the derby. That's pretty cool.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
Yeah, yeah, too bad. You know, Lewis Robert was on
an absolute tear as well. You know, it's kind of
weird how they do this, you know, get metched up
with your seating and then that's that you'd think, did
maybe just let everybody go, you know what I mean,
and then see who I had the ice totals and
then you know, the next four advance or whatever, but yeah,
that's pretty awesome for him to be there with his
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dad and to be, you know, a kid from Portland,
just down the road from Seattle in his first All
Star Game and his whole family there and his dad
pitching to him. That's pretty wild.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
So while all this is going on, I mean, you
have to be pretty happy there, because I got news
for you, man, Orioles. I don't know that there's a
scenario where I can't see the Orioles winning the ALE East.
And I know you're immersive. I mean, I look how
great a first half that the race they did, every
right there, plus run differential is by five hundred and
(17:03):
everything they did best team in baseball. Look at where
they are, look at what the routetown, and the Orioles
are right there and they them the lost total, I mean,
I can't. I can't see there being any outcome other
than Orioles win the AA least.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
I appreciate that sentiment, and I hope you're right, but
I think can cost many doomsday scenarios or even near
doomsday scenarios in which they lose by at least a
half game. But no, the way col sit and we
talk about this for four hours a day on my
radio show here in Baltimore. Even when they were you
know whatever, thirteen and oh and thirty and five, I said,
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they ran away, but they didn't hide. And let's see
what this lead looks like Memorial Day, and let's see
what this lead looks like July the fourth, and the
Orioles have always been within earshot, you know, I think
it probably got up to maybe seven and a half
eight or one point, but never got to ten or
over ten. It's mostly been around between five and a
(18:01):
half and seven. And then, you know, the Rays went
into this tailspin where they fort three and seven in
their last ten. I think they've only won six of
their last twenty games, and the Orioles continued to play
consistent baseball. Orioles haven't been swept in the series since
Adly Rutchman was called up May twenty first last year. So, yeah,
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they're a really good baseball team, and the Rays are
a really good baseball team. But the race pitching staff's
been decimated by injuries. Now and if this time of
glass now saying is anything serious, we know what mcclanahan's
already on. The il Rasmus has been shut down for
the year. Springs has been shut down for the year.
Nobody can talks about Shane Bias anymore. It's like he
(18:45):
didn't exist. Like at that kid, he was going to
be a superstar. Now, maybe the trade for starting pitching
and the Lord knows that they create opportunities with their
bullpen and how creative they are utilizing their arms. And
I'll never out the mouth, but three or four guys
in that lineup come back to Earth Jose Siri, Tyler Walls,
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Manny Margo. I mean, there was a point in time
when everybody's ops was over a fifty and that's just
not the case anymore. So, yeah, it would be an
interesting second half. I think the Orioles could certainly win
this division. But I look, I'm the Rays have done
some exceptional, exceptional stuff and they've got a genius front office.
So the trade deadline is gonna be fascinating.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
All right, Well, let's get into the speaking of fascinating,
because I just love this debate all day to day,
you know, and usually Hall of Dates are like, okay, yeah,
but I really loved a because here we are, now
five years since he's retired. Andrew Luck is Andrew Luck
a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
Come on, man, this is just because it's July and
there's no deflate gate this year. There's no bounty gate
this year, or there's no you know, there's no Deshaun
Watson waiting on a you know, discipline, there's nothing going on.
I mean, that's that. This is that we were in
the twelve to fifteen day stretch where possibly nothing happened
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in the NFL, and then what veterans report around the
twenty fifth, twenty six most places, and away we go.
There is no there's no debate here. The Honky kunk
man himself, Jim Mersey, would he even try to make
the case that Andrew Lucks a Hall of Famer? I mean,
how can you even like this isn't Sandy Kofax, you
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know what I mean? The guy came in, played five
or six years, was hurt a ton in the last
two or three. What are we talking about? Like Hall
of fame? He would even be on a decade team.
How can this be a debate?
Speaker 1 (20:43):
I mean, I would debate he was one of the best.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
I mean, if he has to retire because of literal
injuries that don't allow him to play as opposed to
retiring on his own recognisance. You don't think there would
be a healthy conversation about it.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
Jason, what's the signature moment of his career?
Speaker 1 (21:01):
I mean he went to what four playoff appearances? Okay,
the comeback, the comeback win, the comeback win against the Chiefs,
that's probably it.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
Okay, Other than that, no, because look, I'm with you,
I don't.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
I don't think he's a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
He's he's very good and played into his second contract.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
I mean, you know what, he was great at My
favorite and luck was always the culture losing forty one
to ten in the third quarter, and then the final
score would be like forty five thirty one, and he
would end up with four touchdowns and three hundred and
fifty yards like but the look, but the game was over.
It was forty one to ten in the third quarter,
and he gets like three garbage touchdowns in the fourth board.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
I think he's a hell of a player. I mean,
if you want to make an argument, you think he
was on possibly a potential Hall of Fame mark, I
mean i'd say, well, probably still a little premature, but maybe.
I mean it's possible, But no, I don't I don't
know how. No, I just don't see it. I mean,
(22:04):
I know I'm not feeling it.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
You mentioned Jason being a few months away or a
few a few weeks away, a few days away from
training camp.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
You're opening up?
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Is there any like every team has interesting stories, like
what is the one thing that you're looking forward to
more than anything else?
Speaker 4 (22:23):
I mean there's a few things. You know. There are
teams that took a big jump up last year, you know,
and can they This is not always a linear league.
In fact, it's often not. So you know what, like
the Jacksonville Jaguars, Like do they pick up where they
left off? Or are there some you know, hiccups along
the way. Have they overestimated themselves in some areas? The
(22:48):
fact that they're playing in such a crappy division certainly helps.
I'll be looking at it. It's quarterback driven league, right,
and so we'll be looking at this rookie class and
they were under such a microscope. It's you know, funny,
you know, per Se comes out today and I mean, look,
I think I think I think Richardson really needs to play.
I mean, like, yeah, Gardan Minch is a good quarterback,
(23:09):
but you know, I think Richardson needs to play, but
you know, hey, extra coach's decision is coming from a
guy who literally made three quarterback changes last year and
fired a coach because he didn't think he was playing
the guy he wanted him, you know what I mean,
forced the coordinator out. Like, no, I'm pretty sure Anthony
richards is gonna ben opening day starter, unless you know,
he breaks his leg in the preseason. Like, so just
(23:30):
sort of the arc of those kids, you know, and
how much are they playing early and how well are
they playing? You know that that's always something that will
will you know, people will want to follow, and certainly
I'll be keeping an eye on that. And then like
in the NFC, like, who's any good you know, Like
(23:52):
I don't know, like is there a team that kind
of does what the Eagles did last year, you know,
and gets off to this kind of start where you
have to start thinking, hey, maybe they're a little more
formidable than we thought. Maybe they're going to sprint faster
than some people who thought maybe they were ready, you know,
to speed walk, but they weren't ready to compete with
the elite of the elite, Like, and maybe there isn't
(24:13):
that team in the NFC. Maybe that conference is just
a watered down mess, and maybe it is the Eagles
and everybody else, But you know, who's going to sort
of fill that gap? And then the Green Bay thing?
I mean, look, we would wait forever to see what
Jordan Love is, you know. And I think it's gonna
be a pox on both of their houses. I think
the Jets and the Packers. I don't think either one
(24:35):
is going to be who they thought they wanted to
be or who their fans want them to be. I
think they're both going to suffer a little bit. But yeah,
it's time to sort of pay up there. You know,
they made their bargain a few years ago when they
moved up to draft that kid. He didn't fall in
their lap. They made moves to go up and get him.
A lot of people thought they overdrafted him. It's go time,
(24:58):
Like I don't want to hear about learning on the
way to figure about oh, justin being a starter. Now
he's been there for years before under the coach who
you guys say is a genius, So let's see it.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Hey speaking a genius. It seems like there's we're seeing
a lot of cracks in New England with Bill Belichick
and potentially he's at odds with Bob Kraft over the
money that was spent. And now you have ex players
like as Sante Samuel questioning him and his tactics. And
this doesn't really happen in New England. It has never
happened in New England. But a couple of years with
(25:29):
no playoffs and Brady winning the Super Bowl and maybe
Belichick's not a genius. Jay I look at this that
this is a rubber hit the road type year for
Belichick in New England, where if they don't get to
the playoffs this year, I don't see him coaching in
twenty twenty four in New England if that doesn't happen
this year.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
Yeah, I mean, it could get really uncomfortable quickly. I
think they're the fourth team in that division and from
a talent standpoint, from a roster construction standpoint, you know,
arguably from a quarterback standpoint. Again, I'm not bullish on
this Rogers thing, as you guys know, but he's still
(26:08):
probably better than Matt Jones. I think, you know, the
too cute by half deal with the offensive coordinators plural,
neither one who was even remotely cut out for that
job may have expedited a ticking time bomb between him
and the owner, if in fact that is where it's headed.
So yeah, I think it's gonna have to be one
(26:28):
of Bill Belichick's best coaching jobs, because again, I don't
like the team he's put together. I don't think it's fast.
I don't think it's twitchy. I don't think it wins
out on the edge on offensive defense, which is the
way I think you kind of have to be built
these days. Now, maybe he does coach him up, and
maybe the O'Brien thing turns out to be inspired, and
you know, maybe he makes chicken salad at a chicken
(26:50):
you know what, in which case, you know it's gonna
be hard to walk away from him regardless. But yeah,
I don't think this was the master plan. Know, the
master plan was to keep winning without Tom Brady and
to keep having an elite defense so that his son
could be the next man up, and that Bill Belichick
(27:10):
could do what Parcels did and make a ton of
money being the football czar and he'd have his hand
picked coach who would be his son. That's that's not
going to happen now, maybe that ends up being you know,
Drad Mayo or whatever whoever that next man up is,
and maybe that transition does happen sooner than anybody would
have fathom just a couple of years ago. Yeah, I
(27:33):
think it's I think it's it's a year where Bill Belichick,
I don't wanna see he doesn't mean he doesn't approve
anything to anybody. That's not the right way to catch it.
But yeah, how that relationship continues to sort of evolve.
And then I think the part nobody talks about as
well is Robert Craft and how much longer does he
(27:55):
want to be the face of all this and as
he turns it over to his son Jonathan Kraft, I
think that could further potentially expedite Hey, Bill Belichick, sayonara.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Last one for me, Jason. You know you mentioned kind
of the uncertainty in the NFC outside of Philly, and
you know, San Francisco's is so interesting to me because
obviously the roster is so built for right now, Rock
Party comes in, He's awesome, he gets hurt. Do we
have any idea like where he is on his timeline?
Is he gonna be ready for the start of the season,
is he getting close to being healthy? Do you have
(28:27):
any idea where he is right now?
Speaker 4 (28:29):
I mean, they would want you to believe that everything
is you know, honky dory, and maybe it is, you know,
and his throwing program is supposed to be, you know,
leading him to a point where he'll be okay for
the start of camp. But I don't know. I don't.
I don't put a whole lot of faith in that
stuff until guys get there and people actually see him
(28:52):
and you know they're being re evaluated by the team's
medical staff. I just I'm just not sold on Rock Party.
Like I I don't know. I think it's a real
short sample size. I think he was in some you know,
really sort of conducive situations. And the bottom line is
cal Shanahan's track record with quarterbacks ain't great if you
(29:16):
look at it in its totality. So uh and even again,
look at what he spent to get up to get
Trey Lance, and Trey Lance isn't even as good as
Brock Party. And we don't even know what the hell
Brock Party is. So I'm I have a little bit
of I guess John decide when I look at that
situation and I still feel like nobody knows that much
about Block Party because brock Purty has hadn't practiced, let
(29:38):
alone played a whole lot of football up here. And
that was a team that was kind of on a
bit of a magic carpet ride when when he came
in and everybody rallied around him and there was less
than zero expectations. It's a whole different ball of acts
now when you come in, everybody's looking at you day
one as the starter. So I just say, there's a
whole lot of you know, to be determined there.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
You can fall him on Twitter at Jason Locke and
for check him out Odyssey watching him post NFL. Jay
is always buddy appreciated, my friend. We'll talk to you next.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
Week again, gentlemen, Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Great stuff there from Jason Lock and forth. We'll get
into the Andrew Luck debate because it's just it fascinates
me that there's certain players Andrew that that like Andrew Luck.
There's certain fans fascinate me that no matter what, people
are going to always go to the wall for them
like that. Like I know that there's so many players,
go man, I wish I had the reputation of Andrew
Luck because it's like the guy can do no wrong,
(30:33):
no walks away from the game early now all of it. No,
the guys still like, oh my god, really, oh my god,
really the guy It's it's insane. But some people just
have that image about them that know what you no
matter what you say, I'm going to defend that person,
and that person is the greatest person in the world. Man.
I'd love to be one of those people.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
I was gonna say really quick, I know, we gotta
get to Monty. I think it's also the opposite as well,
is I think there are certain people that when he retired,
still very much in his prime, that we'll never forgive
him for that, Like you've still had eight, nine, ten
good years left and you could have done it, and
you did it, and blah blah blah blah blah, and
so I he like for a boring guy, he's weirdly polarizing,
(31:11):
let me put it that way.
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Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
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Speaker 5 (32:13):
Hey, it's Ben, host of the Fifth Hour with Ben Maller.
Would mean a lot to have you join us on
our weekly auditory journey. You're asking, what in God's name
is the Fifth Hour?
Speaker 1 (32:22):
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Speaker 5 (32:22):
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Why should you listen? Picture if you will a world will.
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We chat with captains of industry in media, sports and
more every week explore some amazing facts.
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About human nature and more.
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Listen to the fifth Hour with Ben Mather on the
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Speaker 1 (32:42):
The Home Run Derby is in the books, holding on
to win by two home runs. Vlad Guerrero Junior. His
dad won it sixteen years ago. Now vladd Junior wins it.
Awesome story. He was excited jumping around, but let me
throw this at you eight. I've been thinking about this tonight, Okay,
Like you know, the Home Run Derby we talked about
(33:03):
at the beginning of the show about how how much
fun it is and how people still pay a lot
of attention to It's better than the slam Dune Contest,
even though we kind of see the same thing every year.
We see lots of big home runs, and the long
home runs are a big deal. And now guys get
bonus times if you hit one more than four hundred
and forty feet, right, So let me say, what do
you think about this? For a year? You change the
format and make this for a year, what do you
(33:24):
think about this? Okay? Instead of what we have now,
you invite the people who want to participate. We used
juiced baseballs. We have a whole thing. ESPN does a
whole big thing before they show it. Here's how we're
juicing them. These balls are flying out, these are these
are the most illegal of the baseballs you could possibly have. Right,
(33:45):
he is the most illegal balls you can possibly get.
At least these balls are gonna fly, okay, and you
have everybody go up and everybody gets ten swings, and
whoever hits the home run the farthest wins the derby.
And that way you're watching for five hundred foot home runs,
five hundred and twenty five foot home runs, all big,
(34:06):
and then you watch something a little bit new and guy.
You know, so guys don't get tell you watch guys
hit a lot of home runs. They get tired. Like
jay Rod hit forty one in the first round. He
got tired. He was at the end, you know. Pine
Alonso had twenty some odd home runs, didn't matter, he
lost by twenty. Uh But you do that for a
year and just see use it, you know, show me
a special like sit, here's how you juice a baseball? Right,
(34:29):
these are the balls we're all gonna use. They're all
Mark Special like they were tonight. You can see them.
And whoever hits a home run the farthest wins the
home run derby.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
So here's my only question of that is, you know
we're talking about NBA All Star weekend. Before you have
the three point contest, you have the slam dunk contest,
you have the skills contest. Why can't you have both?
Why can't you have a field of four to six
to whatever that does the what we're doing right now?
And then why can't you have the you know, the
(34:58):
group of the big bashers, like the Adam done types.
And I don't know, you know, I'm dating myself here.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
Wow, why can't you have the first name you went
to was Adam Adam Done in. I mean, the guys,
all he did was hit home runs, is strike out.
He's perfect for that. He's not been mentioned on sports
talk radio in a decade. I mean I haven't said
his name.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
Max Munsey is now done Aaron Okay, so Max Munsey,
So why Why can't you do both? This is my
only question. Why can't you have? You know, like I said,
it's like the skills competition. You have three point shots,
you have the skills competition. You have done contests. Why
can't you have, uh, the totality basically, the quality versus quantity,
(35:36):
the quantity home run derby, which we have now, and
then the quality deepest home run.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
You think it's too similar, I don't know. Like you
have this home run contest, that home run contest. How
about this?
Speaker 3 (35:48):
You get down to the final two and then they
get a certain number of swings. But it has to
be the furthest home run.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
Oh no, you could say no. You could say it's no, No,
we're still using the juice baseballs, right. Oh, I like
it we're using If we're using the juice baseballs, I
could be down with there. I just want to see
it right, if you use the jew I could be
talked into anything. It doesn't matter. My only My only
thing is how many swings would each guy get? No
guy gets ten swings? Okay, Guy cat said, you know,
(36:16):
if you don't want guys to get really tired, I mean,
maybe twenty you give a guy twenty swings. That's just
one round. Yeah, one round, they get fIF twenty swings
something like that, or and ang, you want to be
able to give a guy a chance to really get
into groove.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
I think it could be funny to be talked into that. Yeah,
I think it'd be fun and different. I would have
no fundamental issue. I do like this format, though it's
not like the Dunk Contest that needs to be overhauled.
I like this format, but I'm willing to see something different.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
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Speaker 1 (37:33):
Randy Ottosna in the final round thrilling. I like my idea.
My idea he used juice balls next year and whether
it's a home run the farthest and that's what it is.
Guys don't get tired, Guys don't want Oh, he had
forty one home runs like Jay Rod had in the
first round here, then he was knocked out because he
was so tired. No, no, no, I'm juice the balls
up and whoever hits at the farthest, that would be
(37:54):
an awesome one. I want to see five hundred, five
hundred and fifty foot home runs. I don't care. I
think he's in golf balls. I want to see him
do it.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
You love this idea, I just you know. I'm I'm
someone I'm of the belief if it's not broke, don't
fix it.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
And I do like the current.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
Format, so I don't really feel the need to fix it.
But I also will say that that would be entertaining
as you know what. So, by the way, if we're
gonna do that, why not just go crazy. Let's just
get aluminum bats, Like, let's just I mean, if we're
going to juice the balls, I mean, why not go
crazy or something like that. Yeah, hey, okay, it's not
too much.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Maybe that's what we do. Forget, we'd use aluminum bats
and golf balls, and that's what it is, and then
that's how we just your incident instead of all that
aluminum bats and golf balls.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
I'm in I'm telling you, I'm watching that. If it's hey,
aluminum bats like the old school college ones that they
had to ban because they were too dangerous. You break
those bad boys out. You get juiced balls, maybe some
golf balls. Maybe the golf balls like the money ball
in the three point contest.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
You know, it's like it.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
Counts for twice as much if you hit it six
hundred feet or something like that.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
I don't know, well, but I would worry about fans
though at one point, because you know.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
My little kids on the field, little boys and girls
club kids just get getting pelted by yeah balls.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
Yeah, that's the thing. Like being a dad. Now, I
think about stuff like that ago, what about the kids?
What about the children? What about the children? Do it
for the children? How about the child? I think too
much about the kids, Like, oh yeah, no, that wouldn't go.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
Am I am I allowed to ask how the softball
tournament went this weekend?
Speaker 4 (39:21):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (39:21):
Well, hey, pretty good our run to our run to states.
We won our first game. We play tomorrow night. It's exciting.
We played really well.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
Did you pay off?
Speaker 1 (39:29):
I didn't pay off anybody as far as you know,
far as you everything was nice and legal. Say that
with a wink of my eye. No, uh no, we
won this weekend and it was a great game. We
won eleven nothing in our first game was awesome. Now
we get ready. We go tomorrow with the winner's bracket
and we're we win three more games and we are
state champions and then we're into the regionals and then
(39:49):
we could be on television. Oh man, for a guy
who's been on TV, hey, we're on television. But it's
you know, coaching you know, my daughter's team, where you
know the girls will be on TV. Would be pretty awesome.
Speaker 3 (39:59):
But is it one of the one you lose you
have to play like six more games to get back
into the Winter's bracket, and yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
It's insane. Like if you if you lose a game,
it's you have to basically play and win every day
to make it to the championship. It's really difficult if
you if you're if you're not in the Winner's bracket,
it's really hard. It's really hard to do it.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
Justin wants to know. Do you think your team could
beat the Mets all right now?
Speaker 1 (40:20):
Yes, o kid, Yeah, you can start it. You could have.
You could have Verlander and Shures are pitching in the
same game and we would win.
Speaker 3 (40:28):
What if I'm watching the Mets and rooting for them
because I'm their good luck chum.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
You know that if you are watching the Mets, the
Mets win big. Yeah. See, your involvement is a big
That's why you're here tonight. I told you on Friday
night we won that you didn't. You were off this weekend.
We had no shows and Mets lost both games. So
you're back tonight. You're back. That's how it works. I
mean I was here.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
I mean I mean they have not lost while you
and I have been on air.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
No, that's how That's how I'm telling It's out. Harmon's
gonna be on vacation for a little while longer. So
is Steve Desager. He'll be on for a little while longer.
I mean, that's how it works, you know, just find
a way to people on vacation and then you make
a decision.
Speaker 3 (41:03):
That sounds like one of those like mob Yeah, yeah,
Tony went on vacation for a little bit. We'll see
we'll see him. We'll see him soon, you know, Like
that's what that sounded. That was a terrible accent, by
the way, forgive me, but that was pretty bad.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
No. But then it's but you keep saying with Tony,
Tony ain't never coming back. That's what I mean. Yeah,
Like eventually Mikey Camp asking me, ask me one more time,
why are we gonna see Tony? Tony ain't never coming back?
Speaker 3 (41:26):
Swollen Dome, Mikey, you ain't gonna see him around here.
You ain't gonna see him around these parts no.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
More o him. It ain't never coming back. You go
look for that guy, you know what he is. You know,
I got him a nice pair of shoes. I got
him a pair of cement and galoshes. He's wearing down
at the bottom of the Chicago River.
Speaker 3 (41:42):
The fishes.
Speaker 1 (41:43):
Yeah, just so you know, remember that Friday at thirteenth
where Jason was like in the chains at the bottom.
That's what Harvin is, excepting he's got also meant around
his feet. So how it works.
Speaker 3 (41:51):
Yeah, I mean, I'm just saying. I mean, that's what
it sounded like to me.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:55):
Yeah, Mike, mikey h is on a little vacation right now.
We'll se him when we see him. I'm like, okay,
all right, if you if you say so, I mean,
you just tell me when to stop showing up, and
I'll stop showing up.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
We'll see him when we see him. How about that?
How about you just not worry about what doesn't concern you.
Speaker 3 (42:08):
Okay, I keep my mouth shut. And I didn't see
nothing here, nothing, now, you know me.
Speaker 1 (42:12):
You know, I hate to say I told you so.
You know, I don't like to say I don't like
to do it. It's not one of my family things.
I hate to say I told you so.
Speaker 3 (42:19):
Everyone in our business loves to say I told you
so so.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
But and you know you sent me this message on
a text today. I hate to say I told you so.
But this is exactly how the Damian Lillard trade was
going to end, right what do we talk about on
Friday night? This is going to happen. He's going to
be a member of the Heat. It's going to take
a while because there's no trade out there that's going
(42:43):
to allow the Blazers to recoup what they want. They
want a young, starish player. Now we saw what they want.
They want basically two players and a couple of Pixon
and a couple of other players. It's okay, you're being
very unrealistic right now. What it's going to wind up being.
It'll be one really good, young star type player, and
then it's going to be a bunch of other things,
whether it's draft picks, whether it's another player. So they're
(43:05):
asking for a lot now, obviously, because this is what
they think they can get. They're not going to sell them.
They're not going to sell them low while they don't
have to. But this isn't going to happen soon. And
we told you on Friday, this trade will go down.
He'll be a member of the Heat because stars generally
get what they want. He wants to be a Heat.
It's going to take a while, and it may take
most of the summer, and it may go really late,
(43:28):
but eventually Lillard will get traded to the Heat. What
do we find out today, Blazer's GM Joe Cronin said, quote,
a trade could take months to complete in order to
satisfy the objective of leaving the franchise in the best
possible position. This is if he trades away Damian Lillard.
This is why it's going to take a long time. Quote.
I think what I've learned more than anything is patience
(43:49):
is critical. Don't be reactive, don't jump at things just
to seemingly solve a problem, which I love. And that's
the one trait I would have that horribly is a GM,
because I would want to solve the problem right away,
Like I have no pay I have a sprinter's mentality. Sometimes,
what's the problem he wants that, let's trade him? Well,
we're not getting just get rid of them. It's like
in fantasy. Sometimes I get to I get to antsy
(44:10):
looking at the same players on my team all the time,
ready to make a trade because I want to look
at a new name on my roster. I don't want
to keep looking at the same guys. I got a
trade hunter run for a why I'm just sick of
looking at him on my roster. He's not performing at
all this time. I lose patience. That's my one trait
that wouldn't be good as a GM. Everything else would
be great because I would be able to tell players straight.
I'd be able to be just like Billy being a moneyball.
Let me tell you, listen, just just be straight with
(44:32):
him and tell him, Carlos, you've been traded to the Tigers.
So that's all would be. But I would be really
horrible at that because I would just want to he
wants out, and every day I would come, I would
come into work and I would think, we have to
do this. We got to we got to move. So
that's the one trait as a GM I wouldn't have.
Patience is not a thing for me as far as
that goes. But this is going exactly how he told
you it was gonna go. It's gonna take a while.
(44:54):
He'll be a member of the Heat. There will be
a third team involved. Hey, there could be a fourth
team involved when it's all said and done, and the
Blazers might wind up getting one good young player from
one team and maybe a good young player from another team.
As things get moved, around. This could wind up being
in It probably will wind up being a really involved
trade three teams maybe for to make sure this whole
thing finishes, because you might need that fourth team in
(45:16):
there to move around a bunch of different first round
picks and assets. But that's going to happen. It's gonna happen.
It's just gonna take a while. Lilid's gonna be a
member of the Heat, but might not be until we
get to training camp.
Speaker 3 (45:26):
Yeah, first of all, I give you credit because you
were all over this last week.
Speaker 1 (45:30):
I could be an NBA insider, I mean with that
like woes, like all the fun. I could be like
what's called like an intelligence insider, Like I use my
own intelligence to tell you how something's going, and I don't.
I don't. I'd be like one of those those new
wave guys on the TV, the cops that don't look
at evidence but but can tell like by body language
and intuition, you know, like like criminal minds or something
like that. No, I could tell this is what's this
(45:51):
is what this guy is thinking, This is how it's
gonna happen. This is how I close my cases. I
don't need evidence. I don't need forensics. I don't need
to go into ballistics and find out what the murder
weapon is. No, I just know by looking at a guy,
or talking to a guy, or following something, I could
be a new kind of insider that that just goes.
I could be the the I don't know what you
would call it. You would call it the intelligence this smart.
I don't know what you would do, but that's the
(46:11):
kind of insider I would be at.
Speaker 3 (46:13):
By the way, I like the that that segment switched
really quick from you know, I really don't like telling
you when I told you something to you just created
six new professions for yourself that only you're capable of doing.
Speaker 1 (46:24):
So yeah, I need to evolve, man, I need to evolve.
You don't know where where the workforce is gonna be
in a few years. It's a long time to the
last Bobby Benia day. Well, I'll find some I gotta.
I gotta find some time to work the next few years.
I could, I could. I gotta carve out a little
niche for myself for.
Speaker 3 (46:36):
For a humble guy. You know, you're you're the only
one qualified to do all seven jobs that you just referenced.
So uh, as far as Dame's concerned. You know one again,
credit to you for being on top of that. It's
one where like I know, in our business, like you
have to have a take, and you know you gotta,
you gotta be on team Dame or Team Trailblazers, like.
It's one I actually have no fundamental problem with. Is
(46:58):
like I've watched way too many NBA players demand trades
and demand trades to one specific spot. We can go
on and on down the list, Kadie to Phoenix, James
Harden to Brooklyn, you know whatever. I have no problem
with Dame saying, Listen, I was loyal to you guys
for eight, ten, twelve years, maybe four or five, six
years longer than I should have been. I'm not going
(47:20):
to Philadelphia. I'm not going here. Trade me there, or
I won't report.
Speaker 4 (47:24):
Now.
Speaker 3 (47:24):
Do I believe that he really want to report. That's
a different conversation for a different day. With that said,
I have no problem with him saying that, But I
have no problem with the Portland Trailblazer saying at the
same time, like, we gotta do what's best for our organization.
Speaker 1 (47:36):
Dame. We love you, Dame.
Speaker 3 (47:37):
We appreciate everything you did, but once you're gone, we
have to get going in the right direction again without you.
So it's one where I don't know that anybody is
like anti dame or anything like that. But I don't
think there's like a good guy and a bad guy
in this. I think both sides are doing what they
believe is best for themselves. And I have no fundamental
issue with either side making that decision.
Speaker 1 (47:59):
YEA. Honestly, that's what it's taken so long. Ye because
because Damian Lillard has probably wanted out for much longer
but would never say it. Yes, and and and for
whatever reason, he kept coming back year after year, probably
because it wasn't so bad or promises that were made,
or I thought maybe this year would be different, and
he probably hung on honestly five years too long. Ye Portland, right, So,
but he didn't want to be the beg. And finally
(48:21):
what made this go forward when he says I want
to trade, because no one's gonna trade you if you
don't come out and publicly say you want to trade.
And that's what kind of sucks in sports because I'm
not the biggest fan of having to you know, I
got to burn this relationship to the ground to get
a trade. But what got James Harden out of Houston
when he said this situation is untenable boom. A day
and a half later, he was on the nets. You
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have to you have to be okay being the bad
guy because if you're not, a team is going to
hold on to you and and and continue to play
you and think maybe things can turn around and change
your mind. If you want out, you got to say so.
You gotta be okay being the bad guy. And that's
the big lesson. Had Damian Lillard been okay with being
the bad guy a few years ago, He's been somewhere
else for the last five years and win someplace else
and doing it now. I hope he wasn't too miserable
(49:02):
important And maybe he wasn't, because again he was there
for the last few years when he could have asked out.
But the whole thing when I see him asking, when
I see him finally make that statement, and then he's
going back on trolls at social media or saying you're
leaving the Blazers. I'm not leaving the Blazers right there,
that's a guilty conscience. That's the guy that didn't want
to say he wanted out. He didn't want to be
the bad guy. Knew he was the only thing he
(49:23):
could do. And I could tell because I'm on social
media and I want to get my point out that
I'm not leaving my team in the lurch. Let people
think whatever the hell they want to think. Man, you
could tell he is still paranoid about that, and it
was a lot for him to say I want out.
But that's the magic thing. If you say you want
out and you're a star, you'll get out at some point.
It's going to happen, well, no doubt.
Speaker 3 (49:45):
And you know, I think that's I don't want to
say Dame's being too sensitive. I don't think he's being
too sensitive, but I would say, listen, you and I
and everybody. A lot of people know, the people that
are the loudest on social media are off in the
vocal minority, right, The sane, rational people don't tweet it,
Athletes don't tweet it, sportscasters don't tweet it.
Speaker 1 (50:06):
Whatever.
Speaker 3 (50:07):
And I would guess the vast, vast, vast majority of
Blazers fans appreciates Dame, thanks Dame, and understands where he's
coming from. So I don't want to say I think
he was too sensitive or anything. But I think that's
one you just got to turn off the mentions and
not pay attention. There's never going to be one hundred
percent approval rating. I would guess most Blazers fans totally
understand where he's coming from. And I think that's one
(50:27):
you just got to sit out, Dame twitter.
Speaker 1 (50:29):
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That's another job. I mean, that's the end.
Speaker 3 (51:09):
Outsider all of the bove.
Speaker 1 (51:10):
That's a show right there, like like Insider by Day
and I Solve Crimes at Night. Yeah, that's a TV show, right.
Speaker 3 (51:17):
Part of being an insider is kind of piecing together
information to get together a whole story. So you're kind
of probably onto something a little bit.
Speaker 1 (51:23):
To be honest, like write this now, Timothy Oliphant would
play me in the in the in the TV version
of this hand. Timothy Olifant eight seven seven ninety nine
on Fox told it's gonna happen for Damian Lillard. It's
just gonna be a little while, but it's happening.
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as promised at I said, Ay, the Mets had not lost,
but since you could do in the show, great and
obviously you are the good luck charm because what happened
he finished our show Friday night, the Mets in one.
What happened? They lose Saturday, they lose Sunday so now
you're back, we're gonna figure something out here because as
long as obviously are the key to the whole Mets thing.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
You told me that as long as they won Monday
through Friday, I'm back in.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
So you know, no, I'm talking about expanding. I'm talking
about expanding now because obviously you're even a bigger part
of this than I thought. Okay, well, yeah, yeah, you're bigger. Yeah.
This is like when you find out the plot in
the movie goes bigger than you thought it was. Hey,
this goes bigger than the chief of police. This goes
all the way up to the Senate. Right, that's this
part where you think, okay, wait, this goes a little
bit bigger because clearly it's not just about this is
(01:36):
when he is here during the week and it's working, okay,
and now on the weekends when you weren't there, Boom,
look what happened. Listen.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
I have to say this, Okay. I like Mike Harmon
a lot. It's clear that I have some power that
I didn't even realize I have, because when I'm in
the Mets can't lose. And Harmon leaves for seventy two
hours in his whole football program, the one team that
I know Harmon loves.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Oh, he completely falls apart.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Oh, I didn't know that I had this much power.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
We'll see what happens.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
You know, I don't know if you want to start
booking your Super Bowl tickets for the Jets yet. I mean,
assuming you keep me in, we'll see, We'll see if
you keep your word.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Well, let's see, Eyracuse way. Now wait, wait, now, let's see.
You need to see if you extend past the Mets
and into the Jets. I mean, you may just just
be a Mets thing, you know. I don't know. I
mean you could be you could be in everything thing,
but you could just be a Met. Never want to
just be a Mets thing.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Eric Syracuse, I mean, do I have to? Now, pu am,
I do I have to guarantee a Syracuse a Final
four spot? I mean, how does this all work?
Speaker 1 (02:30):
I'm confed. Okay, if you can do that, and well, okay,
let's let let's just guarantee that as well. Just guarantee,
just guarant yes, we're gonna get Mellow's kid, and that's
gonna work. And then Agrian Autry is taking us to
the Final four. That's how it's gonna work.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
That's what Torus says.
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Syracuse in the final four. I'm feeling pretty good so far.
The Jets is big, though, Let's see if you still
have that Jets power.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
And poor Harmon's Northwestern Wildcats.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
So I'm sure we'll talk about at some point.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
By the way, if Harmon needs to call in and
do a little therapy session. Yeah, I don't mind.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Oh I can't. I can't do it. Rothburg just throwing
the gauntlet down.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Yeah, I was gonna say I was gonna step aside.
I mean, his name is still on the show, but.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Like he says, still it's still on the You're like,
you're like Crypto dot Com, Hey, can we get those
letters of Staples down. We gotta put the crypto. Just
put those Staples letters someplace. Just Harmon Crypto, put the crypto.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
So you're saying Harmon is crypto dot com and I'm Staples.
I'm I'm more like I guess I'm what's next, I'm
not Staples.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Yeah no, no, no, you more, You're you're more, You're
more crypto. Yeah no, no, you're definitely more crypto.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Who wanted Harmon be crypto because the name is still
on the building, but he but they're no longer there?
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Yeah. Wow, See I can't argue with logic. That's very different.
All right, all right, well let's learn they are there though,
let's it is it is? Well, look what when what's
crypto dot Com? Goes belly up? Just gonna bring those
letters back out and put them back on it. It's
Staple Center again, but they're not paying. That's money. Doesn't
matter at Staple Center. But they're not paid, doesn't matter,
It's Staple Center. Sounds gonna work, I guess.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
So yeah, I don't know, poor Armin. That's the theme
of the early part of the show.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
So here we are right now, getting close to the
finals of the home run derby. Randy of Rose Arena
is in thirty five home runs. In the semifinals, he
could potentially take on Julio Rodriguez, who is getting set
to battle for his spot in the finals. And here's
the thing. He's got to beat lad Guerrero Junior forty
(04:36):
one home runs in the first round of the Home
Run Derby. He is Pete Alonzo's kryptonite. Pete A. Lonzo
is not lost to anybody in the Home Run Derby
except for Julio Rodriguez. And now here's Jay rod on
his way potentially to the finals in Seattle. G went
a surprise. The guy from the hometown team is going
to end up in the finals in the Home Run Derby.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Can I ask you a random question, Jason on this
against the wall? Why has MLB seemingly figured out a
way to make Home Run Derby still awesome every single year?
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Yet the Dunk Contest is essentially unwatchable.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
And I know it was a little bit better this
year with Mac McClung, but it's like, it's just interesting,
Like the Home Run Derby is as awesome as ever.
The ratings are through the roof. Everybody loves it, you know.
Obviously we're watching Rodriguez in the in the studio earlier.
It was fun to watch. It's just interesting how like
the two events have gone in I don't say completely
different directions, because I don't know if the home run
(05:32):
derby is as big as it was in the Ken
Griffey Junior Mark McGuire days, but it hasn't kind of
taken the step back the way that the dunk contest has.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
No, honestly, honestly, it's it's pretty easy. And if NBA
players cared a little bit more about the dunk contest,
but clearly they don't because the stars don't do it.
You just said right here, Julio Rodriguez, who is one
of the big up and coming stars in all of
Major League Baseball? Is he the biggest star?
Speaker 4 (05:55):
No?
Speaker 1 (05:55):
But is he a star? Is he big? Is he
up and coming? Yeah? And you talked about Matt mac mcclunk, right.
I mean, who's gonna nobody tunes into All Stars Saturday
Night anymore? Because who's the dunk contest? It's nobody that
anybody knows. It's nobody that even the average basketball fan knows, Like, wait,
what team is this guy on?
Speaker 4 (06:13):
No?
Speaker 1 (06:13):
No, but he dunk's great. Look at his highlights on YouTube.
Well that's great. That's what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Because wasn't even in the NBA when they when they
put him in the dunk contest for what it's worth.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
So I don't even know. I don't know. I don't
know what to say to the NBA. It's like, hey,
why won't your stars do it? Why are they are? They?
Are they that narcissistic that if they have a bad time,
if they dunk, they're gonna get any fun of And
I don't want the video up of me. But you
look at it's the biggest stars. It's the biggest stars
in Major League Baseball who want to do it? Pete
(06:43):
Alonso is a big star, right, Vlad Junior is a
big star. Jay Rod is a big star. Randy Roserta
is a big enough star as you can see in
Tampa Bay. So do you have big names? And it's
not like you need all of the biggest of the
big stars. You don't need Bryce Harper and Mike Trout
and O'tanian in all the home You don't need them all.
But you need some kind of big names that people
know right like you. You don't need to say, hey,
(07:06):
it's got to be honest, and Lebron and and and
Jason Tatum in the slam Dunk contest. But if it
was Jalen Brown in the slam dunk contest. That's that's
pretty cool. If it was James Harden slam like if
he could unk. Sorry, I got to bring up somebody
can doe? If if if it was stars that could
that that you'd like to see in the slam dunk contest. Okay, great,
(07:28):
like that that would be said. People would tune in
because they want to see what the stars do. It's
really simple.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
You know.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
This is why we watched the home run derby and
why All Stars Saturday Night is just yeah, okay, great,
we saw some threes, we saw some dunks, all right,
that's awesome. Two things.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
One, you know, because of the time slot that I'm in,
I'm in this time slot on Saturdays, I have one.
I'm the only one that still watches All Star Saturday. Uh,
and it is pretty unwatchable. I was telling producer Danny
g he was in studio before he does a you know,
great job with Cavino and Rich. I was telling him
my theory on the dunk contest is and I know
it's tonight's MLB's night, but I said to him, I said,
(08:02):
the dunk contest, they should make it like hard knocks.
You know how hard knocks. You're required if the league
asks you, you have to do it. I don't know
about you know, Lebron at thirty eight, but I say,
like your first two to three years in the league,
if the NBA says you're in, you're in.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Jaw, You're in.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Everybody wants to see you, your young rising star Zion.
I don't care how big your shoe deal is and
how bad it's for your brand. If you don't win,
you're in. So I'll tell you what I think. I
just saved the dunk contest. I will save this awful
nd season tournament later if you'll allow me to. And
I swear I didn't mean to make this takeaway from
Major League Baseball's spotlight right now, but I was just
(08:41):
thinking about it as I watch. It is like the
home run derby is always entertaining, it's always fun, and
the the slam dunk contest never is.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Now, you just killed You just killed everything. You just
did everything. You're like a weed killer in the backyard.
All the big weeds dandelione did get you killed them.
You killed them all.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
They got families, Aron they got families. Who's got families?
These basketball players. Yeah, don't you know Zion's got a
family common don't you know that, right?
Speaker 1 (09:04):
I mean I do.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Yeah, I've seen his I've seen his girlfriend's tweets up,
up and down and left and right and uh yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
And look, the one thing you know about Zion, even
when he's not playing, he can dunk. Because that's the
one thing we do is we get videos of him
dunking like a lunatic, right, like, oh, but he still
can't come play. But look at him, dunk boy, he's
still getting dunk So I know he could do that
even if he can't play.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
A single elimination game with the season on the line. Yeah, well,
I'll come back when Zion feels like Zion, I'll come back.
But you're dunking in the layup line before the game.
We don't need to do the Zion monologue tonight, but
I will tell you I'm so over that guy. Like,
just either either play or I don't need interviews with you.
I don't need like that because I was on air.
You know, you and Mike must have been traveling or something,
(09:47):
because I remember being on air with Arnie Spanier. I
think it was either the night before that game when
Zion did that press conference where he said Zion's not
feeling like Zion, and I just remember being on air
and being like, this guy is such a clown man.
He's such a clown and they should force him to
do the duncan.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
So are you.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Strictly over to the on game, like on the court
stuff or off the court everything. I don't I don't
need an update everyone off the court stuff too.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Actually that's proved. That's actually pretty entertaining.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
Do you not?
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Did you stop following Mariah Mills on Twitter? Did you
see if she jumped over to threads?
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Because I that might get threads. That might give me
to sign up for threads. I still have not signed
up for threads yet. That might get me to do it. Yeah,
I just you know, like like in and listen. I
understand NBA reporters have a job to do. But when
it's like when I get the the shams alert, Zion's
still not ready for full five, Like, I don't need it.
I know he's not ready. I'm just gonna assume that
(10:39):
he's not playing until I see him, and then like
I just I couldn't care less about that. And then
you know there's all sorts of reports about what he
relationship with the team. It's like, you're not good enough.
You haven't done enough to not have a relationship with
the team. Here's an idea. If the coach tells you something,
maybe you should do it. If the training staff tells
you to do do something, maybe you should do it.
So anyway, kind of over that guy. This all started
(11:00):
with the home run derby and now I'm just on
a Zion ret forgive me.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Twitter, and how about a fresca Aaron and Aaron underscore
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the home run derby, we are getting close to the final.
Julio Rodriguez has just finished eighteen home runs and they're
in between rounds now In. Vlad Guerrero Junior needs more
than eighteen, needs nineteen to make it to the finals
(11:24):
against the Rose Arena. Now here's what I'm hoping because
because this is what I did before the season, I
can never go to Sea I can't travel to Seattle
right now because before the season I said the Mariners
are going to the World Series and Jay Rod's going
to be the al MVP, And all the Mariners have
done so far is disappoint and show that Wait, there's
everybody else in the division, even the Angels may be
(11:45):
better than us, and Julia Rodriguez has just been okay.
So I am hoping this is a springboard for jay
Rod to win the al MVP, because that can still happen,
because can you still give a Tani the MVP if
he ends up in the National League for the last
two months. I don't know. I'm just asking for a
friend right now. So I'm hoping that this is now
what jay Rod jumps on and he goes to win
(12:07):
the al MVP. Like I said before the season, Uh yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
I mean, I have no fundamental issue with that. I
mean I'm just, you know, just thinking about across the league. Yeah, obviously,
like you said, the Mariners are struggling there in third
place right now. Did you know, obviously Otani I still
think is the front runner. I know, you think he'll
be a Dodger before the time we're done with this show.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Uh now, Dodger. After this year, They're not going to
train him with the Dodgers. It's going to be somebody
else for the last two months of the year, and
then it'll be the Dodgers at the end of this year,
like that when MOOKI when they were shaking head like
with him and Mookie Bets were shaking hands and second
Baits the other night is hey, we'll see in a
couple of months. Like I think I actually read Mookie
Betts as I said, I'll see you in a couple
of months, And I think he actually passed on a
(12:48):
piece of paper that he could sign that says you
know that this could happen right here. So it's not
they won't train him with the Dodgers now, but they will.
But that's where that's where he will likely end up
in the offseason. That's interesting.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
I mean that part isn't as interesting because obviously that's
a lot of the speculation. It'd be interesting to see
somebody trade for him without a guarantee of keeping him
this offseason.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
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Major League Baseball home run derby vlad Guerrero Junior getting
ready to hit. We just see Jay Rod getting told
Jay Rod's got his thirty second bonus, So we have
that to go before Vlad goes to hit. So we'll
keep you updated there. But coming up next maybe the
(13:29):
most interesting Hall of Fame debate that I've heard this year.
We'll get into that coming up next. Keep it right here,
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on the Major League Baseball home run derby coming up
in a couple minutes, but set to have some big
NFL talk here, And you know, normally at when we
have Hall of Fame debates, I kind of tune out
because as so much so, as you know, we let
in a lot of players who are now just really good,
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and you know, the Hall of very good, and sometimes
guys can play really well for four years and get in,
like Terrell Davis. But I got to say today the
debate that was firing up social media, I loved the
Andrew Luck now five years removed the last time he
played in the NFL. Is Andrew Luck a Hall of famer?
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This is a debate joining us Now I'm the hotline
a man who now I know is a switch hitting
NFL insider for Odyssey and the Washington Post. He is
the ADLEI Rushman of insiders. It is Jason Locking for
what's happening? Buddy?
Speaker 4 (16:00):
What's going on? Gentlemen?
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Dude? Not a lot, not a lot more impressive than
hitting home runs from both sides of the plate in
the derby. That's pretty cool.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
Yeah, yeah, too bad. You know, Lewis Robert was on
an absolute tear as well. You know, it's kind of
weird how they do this, you know, get metched up
with your seating and then that's that you'd think, did
maybe just let everybody go, you know what I mean,
and then see who I had the ice totals and
then you know, the next four advance or whatever, but yeah,
that's pretty awesome for him to be there with his
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dad and to be, you know, a kid from Portland,
just down the road from Seattle in his first All
Star Game and his whole family there and his dad
pitching to him. That's pretty wild.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
So while all this is going on, I mean, you
have to be pretty happy there, because I got news
for you, man, Orioles. I don't know that there's a
scenario where I can't see the Orioles winning the ALE East.
And I know you're immersive. I mean, I look how
great a first half that the race they did, every
right there, plus run differential is by five hundred and
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everything they did best team in baseball. Look at where
they are, look at what the routetown, and the Orioles
are right there and they them the lost total, I mean,
I can't. I can't see there being any outcome other
than Orioles win the AA least.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
I appreciate that sentiment, and I hope you're right, but
I think can cost many doomsday scenarios or even near
doomsday scenarios in which they lose by at least a
half game. But no, the way col sit and we
talk about this for four hours a day on my
radio show here in Baltimore. Even when they were you
know whatever, thirteen and oh and thirty and five, I said,
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they ran away, but they didn't hide. And let's see
what this lead looks like Memorial Day, and let's see
what this lead looks like July the fourth, and the
Orioles have always been within earshot, you know, I think
it probably got up to maybe seven and a half
eight or one point, but never got to ten or
over ten. It's mostly been around between five and a
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half and seven. And then, you know, the Rays went
into this tailspin where they fort three and seven in
their last ten. I think they've only won six of
their last twenty games, and the Orioles continued to play
consistent baseball. Orioles haven't been swept in the series since
Adly Rutchman was called up May twenty first last year. So, yeah,
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they're a really good baseball team, and the Rays are
a really good baseball team. But the race pitching staff's
been decimated by injuries. Now and if this time of
glass now saying is anything serious, we know what mcclanahan's
already on. The il Rasmus has been shut down for
the year. Springs has been shut down for the year.
Nobody can talks about Shane Bias anymore. It's like he
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didn't exist. Like at that kid, he was going to
be a superstar. Now, maybe the trade for starting pitching
and the Lord knows that they create opportunities with their
bullpen and how creative they are utilizing their arms. And
I'll never out the mouth, but three or four guys
in that lineup come back to Earth Jose Siri, Tyler Walls,
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Manny Margo. I mean, there was a point in time
when everybody's ops was over a fifty and that's just
not the case anymore. So, yeah, it would be an
interesting second half. I think the Orioles could certainly win
this division. But I look, I'm the Rays have done
some exceptional, exceptional stuff and they've got a genius front office.
So the trade deadline is gonna be fascinating.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
All right, Well, let's get into the speaking of fascinating,
because I just love this debate all day to day,
you know, and usually Hall of Dates are like, okay, yeah,
but I really loved a because here we are, now
five years since he's retired. Andrew Luck is Andrew Luck
a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
Come on, man, this is just because it's July and
there's no deflate gate this year. There's no bounty gate
this year, or there's no you know, there's no Deshaun
Watson waiting on a you know, discipline, there's nothing going on.
I mean, that's that. This is that we were in
the twelve to fifteen day stretch where possibly nothing happened
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in the NFL, and then what veterans report around the
twenty fifth, twenty six most places, and away we go.
There is no there's no debate here. The Honky kunk
man himself, Jim Mersey, would he even try to make
the case that Andrew Lucks a Hall of Famer? I mean,
how can you even like this isn't Sandy Kofax, you
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know what I mean? The guy came in, played five
or six years, was hurt a ton in the last
two or three. What are we talking about? Like Hall
of fame? He would even be on a decade team.
How can this be a debate?
Speaker 1 (20:43):
I mean, I would debate he was one of the best.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
I mean, if he has to retire because of literal
injuries that don't allow him to play as opposed to
retiring on his own recognisance. You don't think there would
be a healthy conversation about it.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
Jason, what's the signature moment of his career?
Speaker 1 (21:01):
I mean he went to what four playoff appearances? Okay,
the comeback, the comeback win, the comeback win against the Chiefs,
that's probably it.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
Okay, Other than that, no, because look, I'm with you,
I don't.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
I don't think he's a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
He's he's very good and played into his second contract.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
I mean, you know what, he was great at My
favorite and luck was always the culture losing forty one
to ten in the third quarter, and then the final
score would be like forty five thirty one, and he
would end up with four touchdowns and three hundred and
fifty yards like but the look, but the game was over.
It was forty one to ten in the third quarter,
and he gets like three garbage touchdowns in the fourth board.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
I think he's a hell of a player. I mean,
if you want to make an argument, you think he
was on possibly a potential Hall of Fame mark, I
mean i'd say, well, probably still a little premature, but maybe.
I mean it's possible, But no, I don't I don't
know how. No, I just don't see it. I mean,
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I know I'm not feeling it.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
You mentioned Jason being a few months away or a
few a few weeks away, a few days away from
training camp.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
You're opening up?
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Is there any like every team has interesting stories, like
what is the one thing that you're looking forward to
more than anything else?
Speaker 4 (22:23):
I mean there's a few things. You know. There are
teams that took a big jump up last year, you know,
and can they This is not always a linear league.
In fact, it's often not. So you know what, like
the Jacksonville Jaguars, Like do they pick up where they
left off? Or are there some you know, hiccups along
the way. Have they overestimated themselves in some areas? The
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fact that they're playing in such a crappy division certainly helps.
I'll be looking at it. It's quarterback driven league, right,
and so we'll be looking at this rookie class and
they were under such a microscope. It's you know, funny,
you know, per Se comes out today and I mean, look,
I think I think I think Richardson really needs to play.
I mean, like, yeah, Gardan Minch is a good quarterback,
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but you know, I think Richardson needs to play, but
you know, hey, extra coach's decision is coming from a
guy who literally made three quarterback changes last year and
fired a coach because he didn't think he was playing
the guy he wanted him, you know what I mean,
forced the coordinator out. Like, no, I'm pretty sure Anthony
richards is gonna ben opening day starter, unless you know,
he breaks his leg in the preseason. Like, so just
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sort of the arc of those kids, you know, and
how much are they playing early and how well are
they playing? You know that that's always something that will
will you know, people will want to follow, and certainly
I'll be keeping an eye on that. And then like
in the NFC, like, who's any good you know, Like
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I don't know, like is there a team that kind
of does what the Eagles did last year, you know,
and gets off to this kind of start where you
have to start thinking, hey, maybe they're a little more
formidable than we thought. Maybe they're going to sprint faster
than some people who thought maybe they were ready, you know,
to speed walk, but they weren't ready to compete with
the elite of the elite, Like, and maybe there isn't
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that team in the NFC. Maybe that conference is just
a watered down mess, and maybe it is the Eagles
and everybody else, But you know, who's going to sort
of fill that gap? And then the Green Bay thing?
I mean, look, we would wait forever to see what
Jordan Love is, you know. And I think it's gonna
be a pox on both of their houses. I think
the Jets and the Packers. I don't think either one
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is going to be who they thought they wanted to
be or who their fans want them to be. I
think they're both going to suffer a little bit. But yeah,
it's time to sort of pay up there. You know,
they made their bargain a few years ago when they
moved up to draft that kid. He didn't fall in
their lap. They made moves to go up and get him.
A lot of people thought they overdrafted him. It's go time,
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Like I don't want to hear about learning on the
way to figure about oh, justin being a starter. Now
he's been there for years before under the coach who
you guys say is a genius, So let's see it.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Hey speaking a genius. It seems like there's we're seeing
a lot of cracks in New England with Bill Belichick
and potentially he's at odds with Bob Kraft over the
money that was spent. And now you have ex players
like as Sante Samuel questioning him and his tactics. And
this doesn't really happen in New England. It has never
happened in New England. But a couple of years with
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no playoffs and Brady winning the Super Bowl and maybe
Belichick's not a genius. Jay I look at this that
this is a rubber hit the road type year for
Belichick in New England, where if they don't get to
the playoffs this year, I don't see him coaching in
twenty twenty four in New England if that doesn't happen
this year.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
Yeah, I mean, it could get really uncomfortable quickly. I
think they're the fourth team in that division and from
a talent standpoint, from a roster construction standpoint, you know,
arguably from a quarterback standpoint. Again, I'm not bullish on
this Rogers thing, as you guys know, but he's still
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probably better than Matt Jones. I think, you know, the
too cute by half deal with the offensive coordinators plural,
neither one who was even remotely cut out for that
job may have expedited a ticking time bomb between him
and the owner, if in fact that is where it's headed.
So yeah, I think it's gonna have to be one
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of Bill Belichick's best coaching jobs, because again, I don't
like the team he's put together. I don't think it's fast.
I don't think it's twitchy. I don't think it wins
out on the edge on offensive defense, which is the
way I think you kind of have to be built
these days. Now, maybe he does coach him up, and
maybe the O'Brien thing turns out to be inspired, and
you know, maybe he makes chicken salad at a chicken
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you know what, in which case, you know it's gonna
be hard to walk away from him regardless. But yeah,
I don't think this was the master plan. Know, the
master plan was to keep winning without Tom Brady and
to keep having an elite defense so that his son
could be the next man up, and that Bill Belichick
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could do what Parcels did and make a ton of
money being the football czar and he'd have his hand
picked coach who would be his son. That's that's not
going to happen now, maybe that ends up being you know,
Drad Mayo or whatever whoever that next man up is,
and maybe that transition does happen sooner than anybody would
have fathom just a couple of years ago. Yeah, I
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think it's I think it's it's a year where Bill Belichick,
I don't wanna see he doesn't mean he doesn't approve
anything to anybody. That's not the right way to catch it.
But yeah, how that relationship continues to sort of evolve.
And then I think the part nobody talks about as
well is Robert Craft and how much longer does he
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want to be the face of all this and as
he turns it over to his son Jonathan Kraft, I
think that could further potentially expedite Hey, Bill Belichick, sayonara.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Last one for me, Jason. You know you mentioned kind
of the uncertainty in the NFC outside of Philly, and
you know, San Francisco's is so interesting to me because
obviously the roster is so built for right now, Rock
Party comes in, He's awesome, he gets hurt. Do we
have any idea like where he is on his timeline?
Is he gonna be ready for the start of the season,
is he getting close to being healthy? Do you have
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any idea where he is right now?
Speaker 4 (28:29):
I mean, they would want you to believe that everything
is you know, honky dory, and maybe it is, you know,
and his throwing program is supposed to be, you know,
leading him to a point where he'll be okay for
the start of camp. But I don't know. I don't.
I don't put a whole lot of faith in that
stuff until guys get there and people actually see him
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and you know they're being re evaluated by the team's
medical staff. I just I'm just not sold on Rock Party.
Like I I don't know. I think it's a real
short sample size. I think he was in some you know,
really sort of conducive situations. And the bottom line is
cal Shanahan's track record with quarterbacks ain't great if you
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look at it in its totality. So uh and even again,
look at what he spent to get up to get
Trey Lance, and Trey Lance isn't even as good as
Brock Party. And we don't even know what the hell
Brock Party is. So I'm I have a little bit
of I guess John decide when I look at that
situation and I still feel like nobody knows that much
about Block Party because brock Purty has hadn't practiced, let
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alone played a whole lot of football up here. And
that was a team that was kind of on a
bit of a magic carpet ride when when he came
in and everybody rallied around him and there was less
than zero expectations. It's a whole different ball of acts
now when you come in, everybody's looking at you day
one as the starter. So I just say, there's a
whole lot of you know, to be determined there.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
You can fall him on Twitter at Jason Locke and
for check him out Odyssey watching him post NFL. Jay
is always buddy appreciated, my friend. We'll talk to you next.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
Week again, gentlemen, Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Great stuff there from Jason Lock and forth. We'll get
into the Andrew Luck debate because it's just it fascinates
me that there's certain players Andrew that that like Andrew Luck.
There's certain fans fascinate me that no matter what, people
are going to always go to the wall for them
like that. Like I know that there's so many players,
go man, I wish I had the reputation of Andrew
Luck because it's like the guy can do no wrong,
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no walks away from the game early now all of it. No,
the guys still like, oh my god, really, oh my god,
really the guy It's it's insane. But some people just
have that image about them that know what you no
matter what you say, I'm going to defend that person,
and that person is the greatest person in the world. Man.
I'd love to be one of those people.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
I was gonna say really quick, I know, we gotta
get to Monty. I think it's also the opposite as well,
is I think there are certain people that when he retired,
still very much in his prime, that we'll never forgive
him for that, Like you've still had eight, nine, ten
good years left and you could have done it, and
you did it, and blah blah blah blah blah, and
so I he like for a boring guy, he's weirdly polarizing,
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let me put it that way.
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Speaker 1 (32:42):
The Home Run Derby is in the books, holding on
to win by two home runs. Vlad Guerrero Junior. His
dad won it sixteen years ago. Now vladd Junior wins it.
Awesome story. He was excited jumping around, but let me
throw this at you eight. I've been thinking about this tonight, Okay,
Like you know, the Home Run Derby we talked about
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at the beginning of the show about how how much
fun it is and how people still pay a lot
of attention to It's better than the slam Dune Contest,
even though we kind of see the same thing every year.
We see lots of big home runs, and the long
home runs are a big deal. And now guys get
bonus times if you hit one more than four hundred
and forty feet, right, So let me say, what do
you think about this? For a year? You change the
format and make this for a year, what do you
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think about this? Okay? Instead of what we have now,
you invite the people who want to participate. We used
juiced baseballs. We have a whole thing. ESPN does a
whole big thing before they show it. Here's how we're
juicing them. These balls are flying out, these are these
are the most illegal of the baseballs you could possibly have. Right,
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he is the most illegal balls you can possibly get.
At least these balls are gonna fly, okay, and you
have everybody go up and everybody gets ten swings, and
whoever hits the home run the farthest wins the derby.
And that way you're watching for five hundred foot home runs,
five hundred and twenty five foot home runs, all big,
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and then you watch something a little bit new and guy.
You know, so guys don't get tell you watch guys
hit a lot of home runs. They get tired. Like
jay Rod hit forty one in the first round. He
got tired. He was at the end, you know. Pine
Alonso had twenty some odd home runs, didn't matter, he
lost by twenty. Uh But you do that for a
year and just see use it, you know, show me
a special like sit, here's how you juice a baseball? Right,
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these are the balls we're all gonna use. They're all
Mark Special like they were tonight. You can see them.
And whoever hits a home run the farthest wins the
home run derby.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
So here's my only question of that is, you know
we're talking about NBA All Star weekend. Before you have
the three point contest, you have the slam dunk contest,
you have the skills contest. Why can't you have both?
Why can't you have a field of four to six
to whatever that does the what we're doing right now?
And then why can't you have the you know, the
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group of the big bashers, like the Adam done types.
And I don't know, you know, I'm dating myself here.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
Wow, why can't you have the first name you went
to was Adam Adam Done in. I mean, the guys,
all he did was hit home runs, is strike out.
He's perfect for that. He's not been mentioned on sports
talk radio in a decade. I mean I haven't said
his name.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
Max Munsey is now done Aaron Okay, so Max Munsey,
So why Why can't you do both? This is my
only question. Why can't you have? You know, like I said,
it's like the skills competition. You have three point shots,
you have the skills competition. You have done contests. Why
can't you have, uh, the totality basically, the quality versus quantity,
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the quantity home run derby, which we have now, and
then the quality deepest home run.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
You think it's too similar, I don't know. Like you
have this home run contest, that home run contest. How
about this?
Speaker 3 (35:48):
You get down to the final two and then they
get a certain number of swings. But it has to
be the furthest home run.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
Oh no, you could say no. You could say it's no, No,
we're still using the juice baseballs, right. Oh, I like
it we're using If we're using the juice baseballs, I
could be down with there. I just want to see
it right, if you use the jew I could be
talked into anything. It doesn't matter. My only My only
thing is how many swings would each guy get? No
guy gets ten swings? Okay, Guy cat said, you know,
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if you don't want guys to get really tired, I mean,
maybe twenty you give a guy twenty swings. That's just
one round. Yeah, one round, they get fIF twenty swings
something like that, or and ang, you want to be
able to give a guy a chance to really get
into groove.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
I think it could be funny to be talked into that. Yeah,
I think it'd be fun and different. I would have
no fundamental issue. I do like this format, though it's
not like the Dunk Contest that needs to be overhauled.
I like this format, but I'm willing to see something different.
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Speaker 1 (37:33):
Randy Ottosna in the final round thrilling. I like my idea.
My idea he used juice balls next year and whether
it's a home run the farthest and that's what it is.
Guys don't get tired, Guys don't want Oh, he had
forty one home runs like Jay Rod had in the
first round here, then he was knocked out because he
was so tired. No, no, no, I'm juice the balls
up and whoever hits at the farthest, that would be
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an awesome one. I want to see five hundred, five
hundred and fifty foot home runs. I don't care. I
think he's in golf balls. I want to see him
do it.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
You love this idea, I just you know. I'm I'm
someone I'm of the belief if it's not broke, don't
fix it.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
And I do like the current.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
Format, so I don't really feel the need to fix it.
But I also will say that that would be entertaining
as you know what. So, by the way, if we're
gonna do that, why not just go crazy. Let's just
get aluminum bats, Like, let's just I mean, if we're
going to juice the balls, I mean, why not go
crazy or something like that. Yeah, hey, okay, it's not
too much.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Maybe that's what we do. Forget, we'd use aluminum bats
and golf balls, and that's what it is, and then
that's how we just your incident instead of all that
aluminum bats and golf balls.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
I'm in I'm telling you, I'm watching that. If it's hey,
aluminum bats like the old school college ones that they
had to ban because they were too dangerous. You break
those bad boys out. You get juiced balls, maybe some
golf balls. Maybe the golf balls like the money ball
in the three point contest.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
You know, it's like it.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
Counts for twice as much if you hit it six
hundred feet or something like that.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
I don't know, well, but I would worry about fans
though at one point, because you know.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
My little kids on the field, little boys and girls
club kids just get getting pelted by yeah balls.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
Yeah, that's the thing. Like being a dad. Now, I
think about stuff like that ago, what about the kids?
What about the children? What about the children? Do it
for the children? How about the child? I think too
much about the kids, Like, oh yeah, no, that wouldn't go.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
Am I am I allowed to ask how the softball
tournament went this weekend?
Speaker 4 (39:21):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (39:21):
Well, hey, pretty good our run to our run to states.
We won our first game. We play tomorrow night. It's exciting.
We played really well.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
Did you pay off?
Speaker 1 (39:29):
I didn't pay off anybody as far as you know,
far as you everything was nice and legal. Say that
with a wink of my eye. No, uh no, we
won this weekend and it was a great game. We
won eleven nothing in our first game was awesome. Now
we get ready. We go tomorrow with the winner's bracket
and we're we win three more games and we are
state champions and then we're into the regionals and then
(39:49):
we could be on television. Oh man, for a guy
who's been on TV, hey, we're on television. But it's
you know, coaching you know, my daughter's team, where you
know the girls will be on TV. Would be pretty awesome.
Speaker 3 (39:59):
But is it one of the one you lose you
have to play like six more games to get back
into the Winter's bracket, and yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
It's insane. Like if you if you lose a game,
it's you have to basically play and win every day
to make it to the championship. It's really difficult if
you if you're if you're not in the Winner's bracket,
it's really hard. It's really hard to do it.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
Justin wants to know. Do you think your team could
beat the Mets all right now?
Speaker 1 (40:20):
Yes, o kid, Yeah, you can start it. You could have.
You could have Verlander and Shures are pitching in the
same game and we would win.
Speaker 3 (40:28):
What if I'm watching the Mets and rooting for them
because I'm their good luck chum.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
You know that if you are watching the Mets, the
Mets win big. Yeah. See, your involvement is a big
That's why you're here tonight. I told you on Friday
night we won that you didn't. You were off this weekend.
We had no shows and Mets lost both games. So
you're back tonight. You're back. That's how it works. I
mean I was here.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
I mean I mean they have not lost while you
and I have been on air.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
No, that's how That's how I'm telling It's out. Harmon's
gonna be on vacation for a little while longer. So
is Steve Desager. He'll be on for a little while longer.
I mean, that's how it works, you know, just find
a way to people on vacation and then you make
a decision.
Speaker 3 (41:03):
That sounds like one of those like mob Yeah, yeah,
Tony went on vacation for a little bit. We'll see
we'll see him. We'll see him soon, you know, Like
that's what that sounded. That was a terrible accent, by
the way, forgive me, but that was pretty bad.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
No. But then it's but you keep saying with Tony,
Tony ain't never coming back. That's what I mean. Yeah,
Like eventually Mikey Camp asking me, ask me one more time,
why are we gonna see Tony? Tony ain't never coming back?
Speaker 3 (41:26):
Swollen Dome, Mikey, you ain't gonna see him around here.
You ain't gonna see him around these parts no.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
More o him. It ain't never coming back. You go
look for that guy, you know what he is. You know,
I got him a nice pair of shoes. I got
him a pair of cement and galoshes. He's wearing down
at the bottom of the Chicago River.
Speaker 3 (41:42):
The fishes.
Speaker 1 (41:43):
Yeah, just so you know, remember that Friday at thirteenth
where Jason was like in the chains at the bottom.
That's what Harvin is, excepting he's got also meant around
his feet. So how it works.
Speaker 3 (41:51):
Yeah, I mean, I'm just saying. I mean, that's what
it sounded like to me.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:55):
Yeah, Mike, mikey h is on a little vacation right now.
We'll se him when we see him. I'm like, okay,
all right, if you if you say so, I mean,
you just tell me when to stop showing up, and
I'll stop showing up.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
We'll see him when we see him. How about that?
How about you just not worry about what doesn't concern you.
Speaker 3 (42:08):
Okay, I keep my mouth shut. And I didn't see
nothing here, nothing, now, you know me.
Speaker 1 (42:12):
You know, I hate to say I told you so.
You know, I don't like to say I don't like
to do it. It's not one of my family things.
I hate to say I told you so.
Speaker 3 (42:19):
Everyone in our business loves to say I told you
so so.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
But and you know you sent me this message on
a text today. I hate to say I told you so.
But this is exactly how the Damian Lillard trade was
going to end, right what do we talk about on
Friday night? This is going to happen. He's going to
be a member of the Heat. It's going to take
a while because there's no trade out there that's going
(42:43):
to allow the Blazers to recoup what they want. They
want a young, starish player. Now we saw what they want.
They want basically two players and a couple of Pixon
and a couple of other players. It's okay, you're being
very unrealistic right now. What it's going to wind up being.
It'll be one really good, young star type player, and
then it's going to be a bunch of other things,
whether it's draft picks, whether it's another player. So they're
(43:05):
asking for a lot now, obviously, because this is what
they think they can get. They're not going to sell them.
They're not going to sell them low while they don't
have to. But this isn't going to happen soon. And
we told you on Friday, this trade will go down.
He'll be a member of the Heat because stars generally
get what they want. He wants to be a Heat.
It's going to take a while, and it may take
most of the summer, and it may go really late,
(43:28):
but eventually Lillard will get traded to the Heat. What
do we find out today, Blazer's GM Joe Cronin said, quote,
a trade could take months to complete in order to
satisfy the objective of leaving the franchise in the best
possible position. This is if he trades away Damian Lillard.
This is why it's going to take a long time. Quote.
I think what I've learned more than anything is patience
(43:49):
is critical. Don't be reactive, don't jump at things just
to seemingly solve a problem, which I love. And that's
the one trait I would have that horribly is a GM,
because I would want to solve the problem right away,
Like I have no pay I have a sprinter's mentality. Sometimes,
what's the problem he wants that, let's trade him? Well,
we're not getting just get rid of them. It's like
in fantasy. Sometimes I get to I get to antsy
(44:10):
looking at the same players on my team all the time,
ready to make a trade because I want to look
at a new name on my roster. I don't want
to keep looking at the same guys. I got a
trade hunter run for a why I'm just sick of
looking at him on my roster. He's not performing at
all this time. I lose patience. That's my one trait
that wouldn't be good as a GM. Everything else would
be great because I would be able to tell players straight.
I'd be able to be just like Billy being a moneyball.
Let me tell you, listen, just just be straight with
(44:32):
him and tell him, Carlos, you've been traded to the Tigers.
So that's all would be. But I would be really
horrible at that because I would just want to he
wants out, and every day I would come, I would
come into work and I would think, we have to
do this. We got to we got to move. So
that's the one trait as a GM I wouldn't have.
Patience is not a thing for me as far as
that goes. But this is going exactly how he told
you it was gonna go. It's gonna take a while.
(44:54):
He'll be a member of the Heat. There will be
a third team involved. Hey, there could be a fourth
team involved when it's all said and done, and the
Blazers might wind up getting one good young player from
one team and maybe a good young player from another team.
As things get moved, around. This could wind up being
in It probably will wind up being a really involved
trade three teams maybe for to make sure this whole
thing finishes, because you might need that fourth team in
(45:16):
there to move around a bunch of different first round
picks and assets. But that's going to happen. It's gonna happen.
It's just gonna take a while. Lilid's gonna be a
member of the Heat, but might not be until we
get to training camp.
Speaker 3 (45:26):
Yeah, first of all, I give you credit because you
were all over this last week.
Speaker 1 (45:30):
I could be an NBA insider, I mean with that
like woes, like all the fun. I could be like
what's called like an intelligence insider, Like I use my
own intelligence to tell you how something's going, and I don't.
I don't. I'd be like one of those those new
wave guys on the TV, the cops that don't look
at evidence but but can tell like by body language
and intuition, you know, like like criminal minds or something
like that. No, I could tell this is what's this
(45:51):
is what this guy is thinking, This is how it's
gonna happen. This is how I close my cases. I
don't need evidence. I don't need forensics. I don't need
to go into ballistics and find out what the murder
weapon is. No, I just know by looking at a guy,
or talking to a guy, or following something, I could
be a new kind of insider that that just goes.
I could be the the I don't know what you
would call it. You would call it the intelligence this smart.
I don't know what you would do, but that's the
(46:11):
kind of insider I would be at.
Speaker 3 (46:13):
By the way, I like the that that segment switched
really quick from you know, I really don't like telling
you when I told you something to you just created
six new professions for yourself that only you're capable of doing.
Speaker 1 (46:24):
So yeah, I need to evolve, man, I need to evolve.
You don't know where where the workforce is gonna be
in a few years. It's a long time to the
last Bobby Benia day. Well, I'll find some I gotta.
I gotta find some time to work the next few years.
I could, I could. I gotta carve out a little
niche for myself for.
Speaker 3 (46:36):
For a humble guy. You know, you're you're the only
one qualified to do all seven jobs that you just referenced.
So uh, as far as Dame's concerned. You know one again,
credit to you for being on top of that. It's
one where like I know, in our business, like you
have to have a take, and you know you gotta,
you gotta be on team Dame or Team Trailblazers, like.
It's one I actually have no fundamental problem with. Is
(46:58):
like I've watched way too many NBA players demand trades
and demand trades to one specific spot. We can go
on and on down the list, Kadie to Phoenix, James
Harden to Brooklyn, you know whatever. I have no problem
with Dame saying, Listen, I was loyal to you guys
for eight, ten, twelve years, maybe four or five, six
years longer than I should have been. I'm not going
(47:20):
to Philadelphia. I'm not going here. Trade me there, or
I won't report.
Speaker 4 (47:24):
Now.
Speaker 3 (47:24):
Do I believe that he really want to report. That's
a different conversation for a different day. With that said,
I have no problem with him saying that, But I
have no problem with the Portland Trailblazer saying at the
same time, like, we gotta do what's best for our organization.
Speaker 1 (47:36):
Dame. We love you, Dame.
Speaker 3 (47:37):
We appreciate everything you did, but once you're gone, we
have to get going in the right direction again without you.
So it's one where I don't know that anybody is
like anti dame or anything like that. But I don't
think there's like a good guy and a bad guy
in this. I think both sides are doing what they
believe is best for themselves. And I have no fundamental
issue with either side making that decision.
Speaker 1 (47:59):
YEA. Honestly, that's what it's taken so long. Ye because
because Damian Lillard has probably wanted out for much longer
but would never say it. Yes, and and and for
whatever reason, he kept coming back year after year, probably
because it wasn't so bad or promises that were made,
or I thought maybe this year would be different, and
he probably hung on honestly five years too long. Ye Portland, right, So,
but he didn't want to be the beg. And finally
(48:21):
what made this go forward when he says I want
to trade, because no one's gonna trade you if you
don't come out and publicly say you want to trade.
And that's what kind of sucks in sports because I'm
not the biggest fan of having to you know, I
got to burn this relationship to the ground to get
a trade. But what got James Harden out of Houston
when he said this situation is untenable boom. A day
and a half later, he was on the nets. You
(48:41):
have to you have to be okay being the bad
guy because if you're not, a team is going to
hold on to you and and and continue to play
you and think maybe things can turn around and change
your mind. If you want out, you got to say so.
You gotta be okay being the bad guy. And that's
the big lesson. Had Damian Lillard been okay with being
the bad guy a few years ago, He's been somewhere
else for the last five years and win someplace else
and doing it now. I hope he wasn't too miserable
(49:02):
important And maybe he wasn't, because again he was there
for the last few years when he could have asked out.
But the whole thing when I see him asking, when
I see him finally make that statement, and then he's
going back on trolls at social media or saying you're
leaving the Blazers. I'm not leaving the Blazers right there,
that's a guilty conscience. That's the guy that didn't want
to say he wanted out. He didn't want to be
the bad guy. Knew he was the only thing he
(49:23):
could do. And I could tell because I'm on social
media and I want to get my point out that
I'm not leaving my team in the lurch. Let people
think whatever the hell they want to think. Man, you
could tell he is still paranoid about that, and it
was a lot for him to say I want out.
But that's the magic thing. If you say you want
out and you're a star, you'll get out at some point.
It's going to happen, well, no doubt.
Speaker 3 (49:45):
And you know, I think that's I don't want to
say Dame's being too sensitive. I don't think he's being
too sensitive, but I would say, listen, you and I
and everybody. A lot of people know, the people that
are the loudest on social media are off in the
vocal minority, right, The sane, rational people don't tweet it,
Athletes don't tweet it, sportscasters don't tweet it.
Speaker 1 (50:06):
Whatever.
Speaker 3 (50:07):
And I would guess the vast, vast, vast majority of
Blazers fans appreciates Dame, thanks Dame, and understands where he's
coming from. So I don't want to say I think
he was too sensitive or anything. But I think that's
one you just got to turn off the mentions and
not pay attention. There's never going to be one hundred
percent approval rating. I would guess most Blazers fans totally
understand where he's coming from. And I think that's one
(50:27):
you just got to sit out, Dame twitter.
Speaker 1 (50:29):
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(50:50):
brought I mean NNFL insider. That's the thing I can
break the mold at because I don't need to be
just a one sport. I can be an NBA, NFL,
MLB whatever criminal mind solving crime inside. Yeah, free time
I could do. I could be an insider and solve crimes.
That's another job. I mean, that's the end.
Speaker 3 (51:09):
Outsider all of the bove.
Speaker 1 (51:10):
That's a show right there, like like Insider by Day
and I Solve Crimes at Night. Yeah, that's a TV show, right.
Speaker 3 (51:17):
Part of being an insider is kind of piecing together
information to get together a whole story. So you're kind
of probably onto something a little bit.
Speaker 1 (51:23):
To be honest, like write this now, Timothy Oliphant would
play me in the in the in the TV version
of this hand. Timothy Olifant eight seven seven ninety nine
on Fox told it's gonna happen for Damian Lillard. It's
just gonna be a little while, but it's happening.
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