July 11, 2023 • 42 mins
Jason Smith and Aaron Torres have all the latest on the Blazers saying a Damian Lillard trade could takes months. The Spurs announced that No. 1 overall pick Victor Wembanyamais being shut down for the rest of Summer League in Las Vegas. And the guys debate if Andrew Luck is Hall of Fame worthy.
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Speaker 1 (00:31):
Greetings and welcome inside our two of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon. Aaron torres in from Mike Harmon tonight.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
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run champion defeating Randy Otto Sarna because you know the help.
Perhaps how Montsy does it? Randy Otto Soarna in the
final round thrilling. I like my idea, my idea he
used juice balls next year and whether it's a home
run the farthest, and that's what it is. Guys don't
get tired. Guys don't want Oh he hit forty one
home runs like Jay Rod had in the first round here,
then he was knocked out because he was so tired. No, no, no,
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I'm juice the balls up and whoever hits at the farthest,
that would be an awesome one. I want to see
five hundred, five hundred and fifty foot home runs. I
don't care if he's a golf balls. I want to
see him do it.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
You love this idea, I just you know, I'm I'm
someone I'm of the belief if it's not broke, don't
fix it. And I do like the current format, so
I don't really feel the need to fix it. But
I also will say that that would be entertaining, as
you know what. So, by the way, if we're gonna
do that, why not just go crazy. Let's just get
illuminum bats, Like let's just I mean, if we're gonna
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juice the balls, I mean, why not go crazy or
something like that. Yeah, Hey, okay, it's not too much.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Maybe that's what we do. Forget it. We'd use a
luminum bats and golf balls and that's what it is,
and then that's how we just you in said, instead
of all that aluminum bats and golf.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Balls, I'm in. I'm telling you, I'm watching that. If
it's hey, aluminum bats like the old school college ones
that they had to ban because they were too dangerous,
you break those bad boys out. You get juice balls,
maybe some golf balls. Maybe the golf balls like the
money ball in the three point contest. You know it's
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like ka counts for twice as much if you hit
it six hundred feet or something like that. I don't know, well,
but I would.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Worry about fans though at one point, because you know, the.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Little kids on the field, little boys and girls club
kids just get getting pelted by balls.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Yeah, that's the thing like being a dad, now I
think about stuff like that. Ago, what about the kids?
What about the children? What about the children? Do it
for the children? How about the child? I think too
much about the kids? Like, oh, yeah, I know that
that wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Go am I am I allowed to ask how the
softball tournament went this weekend?
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Uh, well, hey, pretty good to our run to States.
We won our first game. We play tomorrow night. It's
excit I think we played really well.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
Did you pay off?
Speaker 1 (03:02):
I didn't pay off anybody as far as you know.
For you, everything was nice and legal. Say that with
a wink of my eye. No. Uh no, we won
this weekend and it was a great game. We won
eleven nothing in our first game was awesome. Now we
get ready, we go tomorrow with the winner's bracket and
we're we win three more games and we are state
champions and then we're into the regionals and then we
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could be on television. Oh man, for a guy who's
been on TV, Hey, we're on television. But it's you know, coaching.
You know, my daughter's team with ever you know the
girls would be on TV. Would be pretty awesome.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
But is it one of those you lose, you have
to play like six more games to get back into
the Winter's bracket.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
And yeah, it's insane, like if you if you lose
a game, it's you have to basically play and win
every day to make it to the championship. It's really
difficult if you if you're if you're not in the
Winner's bracket, it's really hard. It's really hard to do it.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Justin wants to know, do you think your team could
beat the Mets all.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Right now, yes, o kid, Yeah, you can start it.
You could have. You could have Verlander and Shures are
pitching in the same game, and we would win.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
What if I'm watching the Mets and rooting for them
because I'm their good luck charm you know there.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
If you are watching the Mets, the Mets win big. Yeah. See,
your involvement is a big That's why you're here tonight.
I told you on Friday night we won that you didn't.
You were off this weekend, we had no shows. The
Mets lost both games. So you're back tonight. You're back.
That's how it works.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
I mean I was here. I mean, I mean they
have not lost while you and I have been on air.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
No, that's how That's how I'm telling it's out. Harvin's
gonna be on vacation for a little while longer. So
is Steve Desager. He'll be on for a little while longer.
I mean, that's how it works, you know, just find
a way to people on vacation and then make a decision.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
That sounds like one of those like mob.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Yeah, Tony went on vacation for a little bit. We'll see,
We'll see him we'll see him soon, you know, Like
that's what that sounded. That was a terrible accent, by
the way, forgive.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Me, but that was pretty bad. No. But then it's
but you keep saying when Tony cut Tony ain't never
coming back.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
That's what I mean.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Yeah, Like eventually, Mikey, I'm asking me, ask me one
more time, when are we gonna see Tony. Tony ain't
never coming.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Back, swollen, don't, Mike, You ain't gonna see him around here.
He ain't going to see him around these parts no more.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Oh, it ain't never coming back. You look for that guy,
you know what he is. You know, I got him
a nice pair of shoes. I got him a pair
of cement galoshes he's wearing down at the bottom of
the Chicago River the fish Just so you know, remember
that Friday at thirteenth where Jason was like in the
chains at the bottom. That's what Harmon is, excepting he's
got all c meant around his feet. It's works.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Yeah, I mean, I'm just saying, I mean, that's what
it sounded like to me. Yeah, yeah, Mike, Mikey h
is on a little vacation right now. We'll see him
when we see him. I'm like, okay, all right, if
you if you say so, I mean, you just tell
me when to stop showing up, and I'll stop showing up.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
We'll see him when we see him. How about that?
How about you just not worry about what doesn't concern you.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Okay, keep my mouth shut. I didn't see nothing here, nothing.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Now, you know me. You know, I hate to say
I told you so. You know I don't like to
say I don't like to do it. It's not one
of my family. I hate to say I told you so.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Everyone in our business loves to say I told you
so so.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
But and you know you sent me this message on
a text today. I hate say I told you so.
But this is exactly how the Damian Lillard trade was
going to end. Right, what do we talk about on
Friday night? This is going to happen. He's going to
be a member of the Heat. It's going to take
a while because there's no trade out there that's going
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to allow the Blazers to recoup what they want. They
want a young, starish player. Now we saw what they want.
They want basically two players and a couple of picks
and a couple of other players. It's okay, you're being
a very unrealistic right now. What it's going to wind
up being, it'll be one really good, young star type player,
and then it's gonna be a bunch of other things,
whether it's draft picks, whether it's another player. Uh So
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they're asking for a lot now, obviously, because this is
what they think they can get. They're not gonna sell them.
They're not gonna sell them low while they don't have to.
But this isn't going to happen soon. And we told
you on Friday, this trade will go down. He'll be
a member of the Heat. Because stars generally get what
they want. He wants to be a Heat. It's going
to take a while, and it may take most of
the summer, and it may go really late, but eventually
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Lillard will get traded to the Heat. What do we
find out today, Blazer's GM Joe Cronin said, quote a
trade could take months to complete in order to satisfy
the objective of leaving the franchise in the best possible position.
This is if he trades away Damian Lillard. This is
why it's going to take a long time. Quote. I
think what I've learned more than anything is patients is critical,
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don't be reactive, don't jump at things just to seemingly
solve a problem, which I love. And that's the one
trait I would have that horribly is a GM, because
I would want to solve the problem right away. Like
I have no pay I have a sprinter's mentality. Sometimes,
what's the problem he wants that, Let's trade him. Well,
we're not getting just get rid of him. It's like
in fantasy sometimes I get to antsy looking at the
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same players on my team all the time, ready to
make a trade because I want to look at a
new name of my roster. I don't want to keep
looking at the same guys. I got a trade hunter
ren for a why. I'm just sick of looking at him.
I on my roster and he's not performing at all
this time, I lose patience. That's my one trade that
wouldn't be good as a GM. Everything else will be
great because I would be able to tell players. I'd
be able to mean just like Billy being a moneyball.
Let me tell you listen, just just be straight with
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him and tell him, Carlos, you've been traded to the Tigers.
So that's all would be. But I would be really
horrible at that because I would just want it. He
wants out, and every day I would come, I would
come into work and I would think, we have to
do this, We gotta we gotta move. So that's the
one trait as a GM I wouldn't have. Patience is
not a thing for me as far as that goes.
But this is going exactly how we told you it
was gonna go. It's gonna take a while. He'll be
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a member of the Heat. There will be a third
team involved. Hey, there could be a fourth team involved
when it's all said and done, and the Blazers might
wind up getting one good young player from one team
and maybe a good young player from another team. As
things get moved around, this could wind up being in
It probably will wind up being a really involved trade.
Three teams, maybe four to make sure this whole thing finishes,
because you might need that fourth team in there to
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move around a bunch of different first round picks and assets.
But that's going to happen. It's gonna happen. It's just
gonna take a while. Lilid's gonna be a member of
the Heat, but might not be until we get to
training camp.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Yeah, well, I give you credit because you were all
over this last week.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
I could be an NBA insider, I mean without like woes,
like all the fun. I could be like what's called
like an intelligence insider, Like I use my own intelligence
to tell you how something's going to and I don't
I don't need I'd be like one of those those
new wave guys on the TV, the cops that don't
look at evidence, but but can tell like by body
language and intuition, you know, like like criminal minds or
something like that. No, I could tell this is what's
(09:24):
this is what this guy is thinking, this is how
what's gonna happen. This is how I close my cases.
I don't need evidence. I don't need forensics. I don't
need to go into ballistics and find out what the
murder weapon is. No, I just know by looking at
a guy, or talking to a guy, or following something.
I could be a new kind of insider that that
just goes. I could be the the I don't know
what you would call it. You would call it the
intelligence this smart I don't know what you would do,
but that's the kind of insider I would be at
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by the way.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
I like the that that segment switched really quick from
You know, I really don't like telling you when I
told you something to you just created six new professions
for yourself that only you're capable of doing.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
So yeah, I need to evolve, man, I need to evolve.
You don't know where that the workforce is gonna be
in a few years. It's a long time to the
last Bobby Benia a day.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Well, I gonna find some I gotta.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
I gotta find some time to work the next few years.
I I could, I COULDA. I gotta carve out a.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Little niche for myself for for a humble guy. You
know you're you're the only one qualified to do all
seven jobs that you just referenced. So uh, as far
as Dame's concerned, you know, one again, credit to you
for being on top of that. It's one where like
I know, in our business, like you have to have
a take and you know you gotta, you gotta be
on team Dame or team Trailblazers. Like It's one I
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actually have no fundamental problem with. Is Like I've watched
way too many NBA players demand trades and demand trades
to one specific spot. We can go on and on
down the list, Kadie to Phoenix, James Harden to Brooklyn.
You know whatever. I have no problem with Dame saying, Listen,
I was loyal to you guys for eight, ten, twelve years,
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maybe four or five six years longer than I should
have been. I'm not going to Philadelphia. I'm not going here.
Trade me there, or I won't report.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Now.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Do I believe that he really want to report. That's
a different conversation for a different day. With that said,
I have no problem with him saying that, But I
have no problem with the Portland Trailblazers saying at the
same time, like, we gotta do what's best for our organization, Dame.
We love you, Dame, we appreciate everything you did, but
once you're gone, we have to get going in the
right direction again without you. So it's one where I
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don't know that anybody is like anti Dame or anything
like that. But I don't think there's like a good
guy and a bad guy in this. I think both
sides are doing what they believe is best for themselves,
and I have no fundamental issue with either side making
that decision.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Yeah, honestly, that's why it's taken so long. Yeah, because
because Damian Lillard has probably wanted out for much longer
but would never say it. Yes, And for whatever reason,
he kept coming back year after year, probably because it
wasn't so bad or promises that were made or I
thought maybe this year would be different, and he probably
hung on honestly five years too long. Yeh Portland, right, so,
but he didn't want to be in the beg. And
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finally what made this go forward when he says I
want to trade, because no one's gonna trade you if
you don't come out and publicly say you want to trade.
And that's what kind of sucks in sports because I'm
not the biggest fan of having to you know, I
got to burn this relationship to the ground to get
a trade. But what god James Harden out of Houston
when he said this situation is untenable boom. A day
and a half later he was on the nets. You
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have to be okay being the bad guy because if
you're not, a team is gonna hold on to you
and continue to play you and think maybe things can
turn around and change your mind. If you want out,
you got to say so. You gotta be okay being
the bad guy, And that's the big lesson. Had Damian
Lillard been okay with being the bad guy a few
years ago. He's been somewhere else for the last five
years and winning someplace else and doing it now. I
hope he wasn't too miserable in Portland, and maybe he wasn't,
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because again, he was there for the last few years
when he could have asked out. But the whole thing
when I see him asking, when I see him finally
make that statement, and then he's going back on trolls
at social media or saying you're leaving the Blazers, I'm
not leaving the Blazers right there, that's a guilty conscience.
That's a guy that didn't want to say he wanted out.
He didn't want to be the bad guy. Knew it
was the only thing he could do. And I could
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tell because I'm on social media and I want to
get my point out that I'm not leaving my team
in the lurch. Let people think whatever the hell they
want to think. Man, you could tell he is still
paranoid about that, and it was a lot for him
to say I want out. But that's the magic thing.
If you say you want out and you're a star,
you'll get out at some point. It's gonna happen, well,
no doubt.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
And you know, I think that's I don't want to
say Dame's being too sensitive. I don't think he's being
too sensitive, but I would say, listen, you and I
and everybody. A lot of people know, the people that
are the loudest on social media are often the vocal minority, right,
The sane, rational people don't tweet it, athletes don't tweet it,
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sportscasters don't tweet it, whatever. And I would guess the vast, vast,
vast majority of Blazers fans appreciates Dame, thanks Dame and
understands where he's coming from. So I don't want to
say I think he was too sensitive or anything, but
I think that's one you just got to turn off
the mentions and not pay attention. There's never going to
be one hundred percent approval rating. I would guess most
Blazers fans totally understand where he's coming from. And I
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think that's one you just got to sit out.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
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Speaker 3 (14:36):
Yeah, free time.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
I could do. I could be an insider and solve crimes.
That's another job.
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I mean, that's and outsider all of the both.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
That's a show right there, like like Insider by day
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Part of being an insider is kind of piecing together
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It's gonna happen for Damian Lillard. It's just gonna be
a little while, but it's happening. Coming up next, Yes,
we have what could be the scariest part of Victor
wembin Yama after his second game went much much better
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two thousand and seven. But uh, now we get news
today and you know, we talked about this on Friday night.
How many more games were we gonna get from Victor
webbin Yama? Right, he made his debut on Friday night
in Summer League, and there were some good stuff, there
was some bad stuff, There was some puzzling stuff. Eh
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and what do we what do we say? He has
one good game and that's gonna be it. Well, that's
exactly what happened. He had one fantastic game and that's it.
You're not gonna see him in Summer League again. But
he leaves on the heels of a fantastic game with
twenty seven points. And I gotta be honest, it was
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this is the most shocking thing at because watching wembin
Yama play yesterday, having the night he did where where
he bounces back from two for thirteen to score twenty seven,
pull down twelve pors. I don't want to say he
was a different player, but just seeing it's like he
was moving at full speed yesterday and he wasn't on Friday,
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Because what was the thing we saw him on Friday?
Every time he got the ball. It looked like I'm
moving a three quarter speed because I want to find
a play to set up. I want to show that
I can pass. I want to I don't want to
be a selfish guy. I don't want to think I'm
gonna take all these shots. I'm gonna look for my
teammates who were open on the wing. And anytime I
get in the I get near and and and and
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deep into the post. I bang a couple of times.
I don't go anywhere. I back out and I look
to pass the ball out. He was very unaggressive and
he looked like he was moving at three quarter speed.
And then yesterday everything was different. Some of the moves
he had outside the arc to blow by a couple
of guys like he had won, like Alan Iverson, like crossover.
I was like, oh my goodness, he just left him
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in the dust. It was it was it was like
he decided, Okay, I gave you that first game. People
didn't seem to be happy with it. I wanted to
make sure I set my teammates up. That was what
I was going for. Now you want to see me play,
I'll show you what I can do. And this is
what he does game two. That's the scariest part of
wembin Yama is what if the guy is just playing
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with us, like, oh, you're not happy my first game,
I played it exactly how I wanted to, because I
want my teammates to know it's not about me, it's
about them. I want to pass, I want to set
them up. I want to do all of these things right.
I want to play great defensively. I want to get
a lot of blocks. I wanted to, but I don't
want people to think I'm just here to shoot. Oh
but apparently that wasn't good enough for people. Okay, I'll
give you what I give you in game two, and
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it was completely I'm not saying it was a one
to eighty, but it was like watching a guy. And
then if you'd said to me, this was Victor wembin Yama, okay,
and then after a full year of the NBA, this
was what he looks like. Now that's kind of what
it looked like like he had fast forward on the
development button and said, Okay, now I can do all
of these things where I couldn't a year ago. Except
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this was from one game to the next.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
It was insane, so Jason, I'll give you credit once again,
my favorite NFL NBA criminal minds insider here. Thank you,
thank you, because I remember asking you again on Friday.
It was an ugly performance two of thirteen and I said,
you know, historically these guys have kind of played one
game just to kind of show out. And you said, well,
they're gonna play him on Sunday because they they can't
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have an offseason full of Is that the real Wemby?
And then sure enough, as you said, he was phenomenal
last night, twenty seven points and he's been shut down.
And I'll say this, like you know, I criticized the
NBA for load management, but I do think this is
the right move at this moment. There's nothing there. It's
not worth risking it. He showed everything he's capable of.
And the only thing I could take away from Friday
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night versus Sunday night is exactly what you said. Is
My big takeaway from Friday was I really got the
sense that it was his first time in the States,
and I really think he was trying to show the world, Hey,
I'm a good teammate. You guys have made this about me,
but it's not about me. It's about my guys. I
want to set other guys up. I don't want to
try to do too much. I don't want to try
to force too much. Hey, I can hit this eighteen
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foot jumper over this six ' eight guy guarding me
anytime I want now. Obviously, he did go two for thirteen,
so it's not to say that it was like planned
to play that poorly. But I really felt like night
one he was trying to show everybody, Hey, this isn't
about me. I'm not a selfish guy. I want my
other teammates to get involved. Last night, it felt like
the game kind of came more to him as opposed
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to him going to the game, and he was excellent.
I watched all the game last night. I watched obviously
on Friday when when I was with you, and it
was completely different night and day between the two games.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Yeah, he looked like like on Friday it was I'm
very limited when I get when I get the ball
into the post, like I'm very limited. I'm gonna try
to get it, but I can't. But he had no
such limitations on on on Sunday it was I have
the ball here, Yeah, these guys, I'm gonna'm gonna leave
them on I'm gonna leave them in the dust outside
in the ark, and I'm gonna get inside it and I'm
gonna be too skilled for these other guys. And then
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when you need to, I'm gonna bounce back out and
hit a three like that. That's kind of that's kind
of how like what like what if? That's what he's
just playing with us? And like I went out to
do that on Friday night and I good about it.
But boy, because you know, wenby being a Generation Z
superstar is going to pay attention to everything said about
him on social media. And maybe maybe he just didn't
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want to have a big debut because of the Britney
Spears thing. And I don't want to take too much attention.
I don't want people to think that I'm I'm I'm
dissing Brittany by having a big game. After this happened,
whatever it is, I mean, you know, he listened to
exactly what people said about him, and and how not
that we had any sort of expectations tamp down, but
still it was, ah, yeah, it's gonna take a little
bit for and maybe a little while from the come in.
(22:32):
Who knows. How it's gonna go. Okay, I'll show you something.
I could turn it up that fast. I can turn
it up that quick. I mean that's the scariest part.
Like suddenly it's oh, this might not this might not be.
You know, Yanna is taking a couple of years to
be able to become a you know, the the best
player in the NBA. Maybe it's gonna take wembin Yon. Well,
like a few months and one the time we get
to January, it's gonna be watch out, man. This kid
(22:54):
is just doing everything every single night.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
Well, it was night and day from the first game
in the second game. And I'll say this that I
did think I was one of those people. I thought,
kind of what Draymond Green said on that Paul George
podcast the other day is I thought, Okay, this guy
is seven foot five. He's gonna be elite defensively from
day one, but the offense is going to take time.
I'm here to tell you, I think it's gonna come
a little bit quicker, a little bit faster, and a
(23:16):
little bit more successfully earlier on than I had anticipated.
You know, like I said, you know, everything was within
rhythm last night. He has such a height advantage that
he can get shots up over anybody. Then you have
the plays around the rim. I don't know if you
saw this one, Jason, where there was like a loose
like a ball that bounced off the rim that he
tapped to himself and then he grabbed it and threw
(23:38):
it down before anybody even realized what happened. And so
I'm kind of now of the belief. And I was one.
I wasn't you know, he's gonna be a bust. He's
too tall, he's too skinny. But I wasn't that guy.
But I did think it was gonna take time. And
I now feel a lot better about his ability to
transition right away. Now I think it'll be interesting how
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the Spurs use him, how often do they play him.
My guess is he's not playing eighty two games next year,
even if he's capable of it and he's healthy. So
I don't I don't want to put stats on I
expect this, or if you do, no, no.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Expect Hey, he's got to play sixty five games to
be Rookie of the Year, but you bet that's sixty
five on the button, It'll be sixty five even so
he can win that award.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Do you think though, I mean, like, that's gonna be
an interesting thing, right because I'm guessing if the Spurs
are like out of playoff contention. I don't think they're
a playoff team. I think they're gonna want to pace
him in year one. But now you have financial incentives
to play. It's gonna be an interesting thing to follow
in the coming years because, like I said, I do
(24:40):
think like with a team like the Spurs, you don't
want to force him into too much action in a
rookie year. All that stuff. I don't know. I just
think it'll be interesting to follow.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
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(25:10):
hot take we promise coming up in ninety seconds. But first, oh,
I don't know how to say trending in Spanish. So
what's trending.
Speaker 6 (25:19):
I don't know what trending is, cousta.
Speaker 7 (25:23):
Let's find out what trending is in Spanish, because that's
anover reword I would use.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
Can you just drop a hassan one more time, Jason?
Speaker 7 (25:34):
Since then then yes, but I don't think that's the
Sometimes it doesn't translate the same, you know what I mean?
Speaker 6 (25:40):
Then then then cs then.
Speaker 7 (25:44):
But it's not this. This, this is a tendency. I
don't think this is meaning like trending.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Okay, you're taking this way too seriously. Okay, okay, hassa
some difference.
Speaker 7 (26:02):
Hassan speaking of yo, okay, okay, speaking of.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
That was too fast? That was too fast.
Speaker 7 (26:12):
Jalen Brunson tweeted this like four hours ago. Let me
this is what he said. I don't know if he's
been serious. I don't know if he's a jokester. Four
hours ago.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
No, it's way worse than that.
Speaker 7 (26:25):
He hates everybody, right, Yeah, let's get one thing straight.
Stop asking me about Josh, don't ask me about Dante.
I don't like them. They're not my boys. They are
all workers, nothing more. Thank you.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
Yes, Yeah, I love James Harden. Is what he said. James.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Stop that.
Speaker 7 (26:45):
I thought you were talking about the one he responded
to the video because he's responding to some of the
people when.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
The other one about James Harden.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
No, no, stop not putting that out in the universe.
You're not doing out there. That's not happening.
Speaker 6 (27:00):
Guys like father, like son.
Speaker 7 (27:02):
Because Vladimir Garero Junior is the home run derby champion.
Speaker 6 (27:06):
The festivities do continue.
Speaker 7 (27:08):
Tomorrow, with the actual All Star Game taking place at
eight pm Eastern Time.
Speaker 6 (27:11):
You can catch all the action on Fox.
Speaker 7 (27:13):
Yankees Ace Garrett Cole will be their American League starter
and he will face Arizona Diamondback starter Zach Gallen. Earlier today,
Northwestern University announced that they fired their football coach Pat
Fitzgerald following allegations of hazing in the program. You guys
talking about Victor Wan Banyama. He's being shut down by
the San Antonio Spurs for the rest of summer League.
Blazer's GM Joe Cronin told the media today that they're
(27:35):
gonna be patient when it comes to trading Damian Lillard,
even if it takes months, but he was open to
the idea that maybe Damian Lillard will actually stay in
Portland and Pistons and Isaiah Stewart. Yes, Piston's and Isaiah
Stewart have agreed on a four year, sixty four million
dollar rookie contract extension in the NFL. Jaguars signed free
(27:56):
agent tight end Josh Peterson. He played in the USFL
and he is the son of coach Doug Peterson.
Speaker 6 (28:02):
Again like father lake son. Back to you guys, Thank
you very much.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Monster song hot so we intelligent in yo, soy, I am,
(28:28):
I am a handsome cowboy, sauce. I am. No, I'm
a handsome cowboy. That's what I said. He did say
that handsome cowboy.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
That was correct, Dude.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
I was really good in Spanish win school. I won
the Spanish sport in my high school. Well, because it's
been thirty five years, California, I did know. You know.
Here's here's the worst part. Here's the worst part is
that I was so good in Spanish, and I know
I let down like both of my main Spanish high
school teachers because they thought like I would wind up
(28:56):
doing something in interpreting, like I was so good in
Spanish and one one weekend, like they set it up
for like people who are really good and because you
took either French or Spanish or I think we I
think we had like Mandarin was a was a possible,
like my last year in high school, and those are
the foreign foreign languages that were taught. And they took
like the best people from my school and they went
(29:16):
to like the u N for a day and you
got to listen in and everything and and uh, you know,
into the un you hear people would translate what was
being said because all the leaders different places like oh,
this is exciting. And then you know, I went and
I'm listening, I'm going, oh my god, I can't understand
a word that was being said. Again because I return,
I go what does this mean? And go, oh, well,
that's it's the conversational way they they they say this word.
(29:37):
I go, oh, we're not I wasn't taught that. Oh
what are they? What are they saying here? Yeah, that's
the conversation away because in school we get taught the
the the actual Spanish, not not how it's spoken, it's
how they're out of book, how like how it is
out out of the book. And so I didn't know
any I would back up my teachers like how'd you
do how'd you do it? Go? I couldn't understand anything.
I could I really, I could? I go one. They
were using all conversational Spanish.
Speaker 6 (29:58):
Yeah, very different.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Horror, So yeah, what does that mean?
Speaker 4 (30:01):
Horrible?
Speaker 8 (30:02):
Oh I'm glad that it meant just horrible because I
was about to dump that.
Speaker 6 (30:10):
Right what horrible?
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Right?
Speaker 4 (30:12):
No, you say that, I said this.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
It's like, see, you know how there's different dialects of Spanish.
You know, Manzi's from Costa Rica, so clearly Justin's just
from a different you know, just a different dialect. That was.
Speaker 8 (30:30):
One of my friends took Portuguese and that was the
biggest stumbling block because Brazilian Portuguese is completely different than Portuguese.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
I mean, it was, It's very hard. I'm like, I sorry,
I don't understand. Why don't you Why don't you teach
me the conversationals about age? And I wouldn't understand it.
But they were so upset. They're like not upset, they
were so disappointed, like, oh, he's he's not going to
go be a translator and and and be like you know,
politics or whatever, and you know, work at the UN.
And I'm like no, because I don't know what I
(30:57):
don't know because those aren't words like I'm I'm trying
to conjugate the verbs in my head and I can't,
well because we don't use this verb. Then why are
you teaching me that? Why they're teaching me that? It
doesn't help anybody. Thanks a bunch, Monzi. Yeah, so here's
your big hot take, right. We talked with this with
Jason lock and for earlier in the show. This is
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a rubber hits the road year for Bill Belichick. If
the Patriots don't make the playoffs, he's out as Patriots
head coach. Whether it is I'm walking away, whether it's
a mutual decision, but things have gotten to the top
of the mountain are starting to come down the other
side on him. His way was never questioned. As long
(31:39):
as he had Brady, they were winning the Super Bowl
every three years. It was fine. But now in the
post Brady era, they have not played well. They made
the playoffs once. His personnel moves have not been great.
The roster is one of the least talented rosters in
all of the National Football League. The events of the
last week in which Belichick said, hey, we've been one
(32:01):
of the least spending teams in the NFL the last
couple of years that Bob Craft had to jump back at.
So you know, each side is not happy with the other,
and Bob Craft is pretty antsy, and you have to
be wondering is it Belichick or was it Brady? Did Belichick?
And of course having the play, yeah, well, I mean well,
and plus you had the plays for Spygates so that
worked too. So you have all of this going on,
(32:23):
and now you have players both present and past criticizing
what Belichick is doing. You had Mac Jones doing it
in the season last year. You had a Sante Samuel,
former player star with the Patriots, saying today on social
media that, boy, you got to stop treating Mac Jones
like he's Tom Brady. Maybe you'll start winning some games.
Players are taking him on like they never have before.
(32:44):
You had the lateral play against the Raiders last year
that I can't believe that happened on a Bill Belichick
coach team. You had players aside, we're going to throw
the football around in the final player regulation and then
wind up losing the game. If that doesn't tell you
that Belichick has lost his grip on the Patriots nothing else.
Would you throw all of that into the mix. This
is a do or die year for him as head
(33:04):
coach of the Patriots, and whether it's walking away, joint decision,
whatever it's gonna be, or craps isn't gonna make me
fire you, Bill, You're gonna make me fire you. This
is gonna be it because the Patriots aren't gonna take
one more year of being out of the playoffs and
saying yes, Belichick has all the answers for next year. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
I wanted to follow up with Jason, but he gave
such a good answer that it didn't really feel necessary.
But no, no, no, I'm being serious because I was gonna ask,
do we think there's a scenario where this ends well?
And I think I'm in the same boat as you,
Jason is I don't know if it's definitely this year,
it's not gonna end well. There's no pathway, in my opinion,
in the AFC right now with the quarterbacks that there are,
(33:42):
that Bill Belichick gets to somehow ride out on a
white horse and have his moment and it doesn't even
have to be a Super Bowl championship. But I'm talking
a deep playoff run. You know, you get to an
AFC championship game and you get out dueled by Joe
Burrow or Patrick Mahomes, It's like, it's exactly what you said.
It might be the least talented at the very least
offense in the NFL right now. Matt Jones, I don't
(34:04):
think he's as bad as he looked last year. Give
him a real offensive coordinator. I think he'll be better.
But in terms of actual talent, his ceiling is so
much lower than those elite guys. I just sit there
and say, I don't know how this ends well for
Bill Belichick because there's no pathway in the AFC the
way things are set up right now.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
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debate of the day. I want to have it because
(34:43):
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to us courtesy of the Pro Football Hall of Fame
NFL Rookie Watch account on Twitter, which reminded everybody that
Andrew Luck retired four years ago. He'll be eligible after
this season for the Pro Football Hall of Fame, and
suddenly the debate came out there as Andrew Luck a
Hall of Famer, and anyone who says Andrew Luck is
(36:14):
a Hall of Fame player either A is just looking
to say something different than what's real and what's accurate,
or B they just love Andrew Luck because oh he
was so good, and I loved he was so good,
and he was so class. No matter what, I'm always
gonna defend Andrew Luck to the death. Oh it's always good.
Those are the only people that can say Andrew Luck's
(36:35):
a Hall of Famer. Those are the only people. And
that's all you're gonna get because Andrew Luck his career
after he retired, Yes, he was young. He had two
great years, two phenomenally great years right in twenty fourteen
and twenty eighteen. He had one pretty terrific year in
twenty sixteen. He had two below average years and one
(36:56):
average year. And oh, by the way, the rest of
his career he was hurt, missed a year and a half.
He got to one AFC Championship game. Right, Terrell Davis
is in the Hall of Fame. Well, I don't think
Terrell Davis is the Hall of Famer, but at least
I could say, hey, he's got two Super Bowls and
he won. You know, I can't just put Andrew Luck
in because he was a number one pick and he
was pretty good, and everybody likes him. He's one of
(37:18):
those players that enjoys a great reputation, right He and
Mahomes and Steph Curry, guys like that. Other players just
want to bang their heads against wall and say, no
matter what these guys do, they wind up with a
great image and reputation. I can't get it. It just happens.
But everybody likes Andrew Luck. You look at what he's
done on the come on. His all time passer rating
(37:40):
was eighty nine, and if you're not at one hundred,
you're not considered a really good quarterback. You're an eighty
eighty is like way below this guy. What didn't even
have a ninety for his average quarterback rating. I mean,
I can't put that guy in the Hall of Fame,
and anybody who does just wants to do it because, Hey,
I'm gonna give you the other side of this. I'm
gonna give you the the the lower percentage of each
(38:03):
side of a story, and I'm gonna make my mark
on that because i'm gonna give you that part. They'll
give you the unpopular take, even though it's a really
really small chant. I'm gonna give you that, or I
just love him because outside of that, I don't see
how you can say Andrew Luck's Hall of Famer.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
Well, you just found the person, Jason, I Have you really.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
Think he's a Hall of Famer? Wow? At go ahead,
Buddy Good.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
My problem is the standard for Hall of Fames has
been lowered so much that, like and I heard Colin
talking about this during the break on one of the
promos that that maybe we hear I don't know if
the audience heard it, but Colin talked about on his
show today, is that the standard has been has been
dropped so low, and so to me, first of all,
there have been other guys that retire early Jim Brown
(38:45):
retired at thirty Calvin Johnson retired at thirty years old.
I have no fundamental issue if you decide to retire early.
Oh by the way, if Andrew Luck retired because of
injury where he literally couldn't play, I think it's a
different conversation, and it shouldn't be a different conversation. So
when I look at the Andrew Luck debate, here's what
I see. A guy that essentially played five pseudo healthy
(39:06):
seasons for playoff appearances, one AFC Championship Game, four Pro Bowls,
led the league in passing touchdowns in twenty fourteen, in
his very small window, he was one of the best
quarterbacks in the league. Now the window was smaller. He
didn't have the career, the totality that we want. But
it's supposed to be the Hall of Fame. And now
(39:27):
I'm just stealing from Colin because I just heard him
say it, like, it's not the Hall of very good
and we're putting good to not great players in all
the time this guy in his era was great. I
would prefer to see him in.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
Yeah, but that doesn't make it right, because I get it, Yes,
we are putting very good players in the Hall. That's
why we joke around with Jason Coleen. We have Momond
and say, hey, he's a Hall of very good voter.
All right. He's very upset. He also agrees that, you know,
like we're putting too many people in the Hall of Fame.
But that doesn't make it right. That does well, if
you're letting this guy and you gotta let this guy,
and no, it means we should stop letting very good
players in. I would go go back and say, hey,
(40:00):
let's look at this guy's candidacy and say, if we
should boot him out, sorry, here's your bust, We're gonna
break it in half on national television.
Speaker 4 (40:07):
He would have to remove every Jet then, Jay.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
We don't have that many. We really, we don't have that.
Speaker 4 (40:11):
We would have to remove every single one. Curtis Martin's
out st You.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
Stop Curtis Martin being out come on guys, the fourth
leading rusher all time.
Speaker 4 (40:18):
Realize if Andrew Luck was on the Jets, how many
Super Bowls they'd have.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
They wouldn't have zero because they would find a way
to not win with them, They'd find a way. Uh No,
that would be the games where they would get down
like fifty to seven, and he would throw three touchdowns
in the fourth quarter and it wouldn't be enough.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
Curtis Martin five time Pro Bowler, Andrew luck four time
Pro bowler like that.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
No, it's great.
Speaker 4 (40:36):
It's Martin played for like thirty seven names.
Speaker 3 (40:38):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
That's exacly what I'm saying. He did not play for
thirty seven the guys for the fourth most rushing yards
all time. Hey, he's stunk fourth most rushing yards all time.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
Same number of Super Bowls and andrewa.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
Uh yeah, Okay, nope, but he decided to keep playing
and again fourth leader.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
So you'd rather have a guy that just piles up
stats in their absolute meaningless, or you'd rather have a
guy that is great in his era at what he does.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
Curtis Curtis Martin in his era was always one of
the top two or three running backs in the game,
and that's pretty good.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
Andrew Lucket his era was one of.
Speaker 1 (41:13):
The two or three. I don't know that he was
really he had two great years. Those years he was
one of the best, but the other big of the
six years, not all six were great.
Speaker 3 (41:22):
He had two facerated Kenned he couldn't play.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
He had two he had two great years, he had
two years that were terrible, and he had a year
and a half where he couldn't play. I'm sorry, I can't.
I can't give a guy credit for something he didn't do. Well.
Let's put Jalen Hurts in the Hall of Fame. The
guy had one great year, but why not. He's young,
he had one, he's been in the league two years.
One year is great. Why not put him in the
Hall of Fame. I can't do it.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
I can't do it for Jalen Hurt plays seven? Could
we could continue this conversation.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
We'll have more on this cause see that's why I
like this debate. Harry Hall of Famer. Come on, that's
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run champion defeating Randy Otto Sarna because you know the help.
Perhaps how Montsy does it? Randy Otto Soarna in the
final round thrilling. I like my idea, my idea he
used juice balls next year and whether it's a home
run the farthest, and that's what it is. Guys don't
get tired. Guys don't want Oh he hit forty one
home runs like Jay Rod had in the first round here,
then he was knocked out because he was so tired. No, no, no,
(01:24):
I'm juice the balls up and whoever hits at the farthest,
that would be an awesome one. I want to see
five hundred, five hundred and fifty foot home runs. I
don't care if he's a golf balls. I want to
see him do it.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
You love this idea, I just you know, I'm I'm
someone I'm of the belief if it's not broke, don't
fix it. And I do like the current format, so
I don't really feel the need to fix it. But
I also will say that that would be entertaining, as
you know what. So, by the way, if we're gonna
do that, why not just go crazy. Let's just get
illuminum bats, Like let's just I mean, if we're gonna
(01:54):
juice the balls, I mean, why not go crazy or
something like that. Yeah, Hey, okay, it's not too much.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Maybe that's what we do. Forget it. We'd use a
luminum bats and golf balls and that's what it is,
and then that's how we just you in said, instead
of all that aluminum bats and golf.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Balls, I'm in. I'm telling you, I'm watching that. If
it's hey, aluminum bats like the old school college ones
that they had to ban because they were too dangerous,
you break those bad boys out. You get juice balls,
maybe some golf balls. Maybe the golf balls like the
money ball in the three point contest. You know it's
(02:26):
like ka counts for twice as much if you hit
it six hundred feet or something like that. I don't know, well,
but I would.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Worry about fans though at one point, because you know, the.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Little kids on the field, little boys and girls club
kids just get getting pelted by balls.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Yeah, that's the thing like being a dad, now I
think about stuff like that. Ago, what about the kids?
What about the children? What about the children? Do it
for the children? How about the child? I think too
much about the kids? Like, oh, yeah, I know that
that wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Go am I am I allowed to ask how the
softball tournament went this weekend?
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Uh, well, hey, pretty good to our run to States.
We won our first game. We play tomorrow night. It's
excit I think we played really well.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
Did you pay off?
Speaker 1 (03:02):
I didn't pay off anybody as far as you know.
For you, everything was nice and legal. Say that with
a wink of my eye. No. Uh no, we won
this weekend and it was a great game. We won
eleven nothing in our first game was awesome. Now we
get ready, we go tomorrow with the winner's bracket and
we're we win three more games and we are state
champions and then we're into the regionals and then we
(03:22):
could be on television. Oh man, for a guy who's
been on TV, Hey, we're on television. But it's you know, coaching.
You know, my daughter's team with ever you know the
girls would be on TV. Would be pretty awesome.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
But is it one of those you lose, you have
to play like six more games to get back into
the Winter's bracket.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
And yeah, it's insane, like if you if you lose
a game, it's you have to basically play and win
every day to make it to the championship. It's really
difficult if you if you're if you're not in the
Winner's bracket, it's really hard. It's really hard to do it.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Justin wants to know, do you think your team could
beat the Mets all.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Right now, yes, o kid, Yeah, you can start it.
You could have. You could have Verlander and Shures are
pitching in the same game, and we would win.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
What if I'm watching the Mets and rooting for them
because I'm their good luck charm you know there.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
If you are watching the Mets, the Mets win big. Yeah. See,
your involvement is a big That's why you're here tonight.
I told you on Friday night we won that you didn't.
You were off this weekend, we had no shows. The
Mets lost both games. So you're back tonight. You're back.
That's how it works.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
I mean I was here. I mean, I mean they
have not lost while you and I have been on air.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
No, that's how That's how I'm telling it's out. Harvin's
gonna be on vacation for a little while longer. So
is Steve Desager. He'll be on for a little while longer.
I mean, that's how it works, you know, just find
a way to people on vacation and then make a decision.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
That sounds like one of those like mob.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Yeah, Tony went on vacation for a little bit. We'll see,
We'll see him we'll see him soon, you know, Like
that's what that sounded. That was a terrible accent, by
the way, forgive.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Me, but that was pretty bad. No. But then it's
but you keep saying when Tony cut Tony ain't never
coming back.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
That's what I mean.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Yeah, Like eventually, Mikey, I'm asking me, ask me one
more time, when are we gonna see Tony. Tony ain't
never coming.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Back, swollen, don't, Mike, You ain't gonna see him around here.
He ain't going to see him around these parts no more.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Oh, it ain't never coming back. You look for that guy,
you know what he is. You know, I got him
a nice pair of shoes. I got him a pair
of cement galoshes he's wearing down at the bottom of
the Chicago River the fish Just so you know, remember
that Friday at thirteenth where Jason was like in the
chains at the bottom. That's what Harmon is, excepting he's
got all c meant around his feet. It's works.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Yeah, I mean, I'm just saying, I mean, that's what
it sounded like to me. Yeah, yeah, Mike, Mikey h
is on a little vacation right now. We'll see him
when we see him. I'm like, okay, all right, if
you if you say so, I mean, you just tell
me when to stop showing up, and I'll stop showing up.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
We'll see him when we see him. How about that?
How about you just not worry about what doesn't concern you.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Okay, keep my mouth shut. I didn't see nothing here, nothing.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Now, you know me. You know, I hate to say
I told you so. You know I don't like to
say I don't like to do it. It's not one
of my family. I hate to say I told you so.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Everyone in our business loves to say I told you
so so.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
But and you know you sent me this message on
a text today. I hate say I told you so.
But this is exactly how the Damian Lillard trade was
going to end. Right, what do we talk about on
Friday night? This is going to happen. He's going to
be a member of the Heat. It's going to take
a while because there's no trade out there that's going
(06:15):
to allow the Blazers to recoup what they want. They
want a young, starish player. Now we saw what they want.
They want basically two players and a couple of picks
and a couple of other players. It's okay, you're being
a very unrealistic right now. What it's going to wind
up being, it'll be one really good, young star type player,
and then it's gonna be a bunch of other things,
whether it's draft picks, whether it's another player. Uh So
(06:38):
they're asking for a lot now, obviously, because this is
what they think they can get. They're not gonna sell them.
They're not gonna sell them low while they don't have to.
But this isn't going to happen soon. And we told
you on Friday, this trade will go down. He'll be
a member of the Heat. Because stars generally get what
they want. He wants to be a Heat. It's going
to take a while, and it may take most of
the summer, and it may go really late, but eventually
(07:01):
Lillard will get traded to the Heat. What do we
find out today, Blazer's GM Joe Cronin said, quote a
trade could take months to complete in order to satisfy
the objective of leaving the franchise in the best possible position.
This is if he trades away Damian Lillard. This is
why it's going to take a long time. Quote. I
think what I've learned more than anything is patients is critical,
(07:23):
don't be reactive, don't jump at things just to seemingly
solve a problem, which I love. And that's the one
trait I would have that horribly is a GM, because
I would want to solve the problem right away. Like
I have no pay I have a sprinter's mentality. Sometimes,
what's the problem he wants that, Let's trade him. Well,
we're not getting just get rid of him. It's like
in fantasy sometimes I get to antsy looking at the
(07:43):
same players on my team all the time, ready to
make a trade because I want to look at a
new name of my roster. I don't want to keep
looking at the same guys. I got a trade hunter
ren for a why. I'm just sick of looking at him.
I on my roster and he's not performing at all
this time, I lose patience. That's my one trade that
wouldn't be good as a GM. Everything else will be
great because I would be able to tell players. I'd
be able to mean just like Billy being a moneyball.
Let me tell you listen, just just be straight with
(08:05):
him and tell him, Carlos, you've been traded to the Tigers.
So that's all would be. But I would be really
horrible at that because I would just want it. He
wants out, and every day I would come, I would
come into work and I would think, we have to
do this, We gotta we gotta move. So that's the
one trait as a GM I wouldn't have. Patience is
not a thing for me as far as that goes.
But this is going exactly how we told you it
was gonna go. It's gonna take a while. He'll be
(08:27):
a member of the Heat. There will be a third
team involved. Hey, there could be a fourth team involved
when it's all said and done, and the Blazers might
wind up getting one good young player from one team
and maybe a good young player from another team. As
things get moved around, this could wind up being in
It probably will wind up being a really involved trade.
Three teams, maybe four to make sure this whole thing finishes,
because you might need that fourth team in there to
(08:49):
move around a bunch of different first round picks and assets.
But that's going to happen. It's gonna happen. It's just
gonna take a while. Lilid's gonna be a member of
the Heat, but might not be until we get to
training camp.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Yeah, well, I give you credit because you were all
over this last week.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
I could be an NBA insider, I mean without like woes,
like all the fun. I could be like what's called
like an intelligence insider, Like I use my own intelligence
to tell you how something's going to and I don't
I don't need I'd be like one of those those
new wave guys on the TV, the cops that don't
look at evidence, but but can tell like by body
language and intuition, you know, like like criminal minds or
something like that. No, I could tell this is what's
(09:24):
this is what this guy is thinking, this is how
what's gonna happen. This is how I close my cases.
I don't need evidence. I don't need forensics. I don't
need to go into ballistics and find out what the
murder weapon is. No, I just know by looking at
a guy, or talking to a guy, or following something.
I could be a new kind of insider that that
just goes. I could be the the I don't know
what you would call it. You would call it the
intelligence this smart I don't know what you would do,
but that's the kind of insider I would be at
(09:45):
by the way.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
I like the that that segment switched really quick from
You know, I really don't like telling you when I
told you something to you just created six new professions
for yourself that only you're capable of doing.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
So yeah, I need to evolve, man, I need to evolve.
You don't know where that the workforce is gonna be
in a few years. It's a long time to the
last Bobby Benia a day.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Well, I gonna find some I gotta.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
I gotta find some time to work the next few years.
I I could, I COULDA. I gotta carve out a.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Little niche for myself for for a humble guy. You
know you're you're the only one qualified to do all
seven jobs that you just referenced. So uh, as far
as Dame's concerned, you know, one again, credit to you
for being on top of that. It's one where like
I know, in our business, like you have to have
a take and you know you gotta, you gotta be
on team Dame or team Trailblazers. Like It's one I
(10:28):
actually have no fundamental problem with. Is Like I've watched
way too many NBA players demand trades and demand trades
to one specific spot. We can go on and on
down the list, Kadie to Phoenix, James Harden to Brooklyn.
You know whatever. I have no problem with Dame saying, Listen,
I was loyal to you guys for eight, ten, twelve years,
(10:48):
maybe four or five six years longer than I should
have been. I'm not going to Philadelphia. I'm not going here.
Trade me there, or I won't report.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Now.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Do I believe that he really want to report. That's
a different conversation for a different day. With that said,
I have no problem with him saying that, But I
have no problem with the Portland Trailblazers saying at the
same time, like, we gotta do what's best for our organization, Dame.
We love you, Dame, we appreciate everything you did, but
once you're gone, we have to get going in the
right direction again without you. So it's one where I
(11:18):
don't know that anybody is like anti Dame or anything
like that. But I don't think there's like a good
guy and a bad guy in this. I think both
sides are doing what they believe is best for themselves,
and I have no fundamental issue with either side making
that decision.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Yeah, honestly, that's why it's taken so long. Yeah, because
because Damian Lillard has probably wanted out for much longer
but would never say it. Yes, And for whatever reason,
he kept coming back year after year, probably because it
wasn't so bad or promises that were made or I
thought maybe this year would be different, and he probably
hung on honestly five years too long. Yeh Portland, right, so,
but he didn't want to be in the beg. And
(11:53):
finally what made this go forward when he says I
want to trade, because no one's gonna trade you if
you don't come out and publicly say you want to trade.
And that's what kind of sucks in sports because I'm
not the biggest fan of having to you know, I
got to burn this relationship to the ground to get
a trade. But what god James Harden out of Houston
when he said this situation is untenable boom. A day
and a half later he was on the nets. You
(12:15):
have to be okay being the bad guy because if
you're not, a team is gonna hold on to you
and continue to play you and think maybe things can
turn around and change your mind. If you want out,
you got to say so. You gotta be okay being
the bad guy, And that's the big lesson. Had Damian
Lillard been okay with being the bad guy a few
years ago. He's been somewhere else for the last five
years and winning someplace else and doing it now. I
hope he wasn't too miserable in Portland, and maybe he wasn't,
(12:37):
because again, he was there for the last few years
when he could have asked out. But the whole thing
when I see him asking, when I see him finally
make that statement, and then he's going back on trolls
at social media or saying you're leaving the Blazers, I'm
not leaving the Blazers right there, that's a guilty conscience.
That's a guy that didn't want to say he wanted out.
He didn't want to be the bad guy. Knew it
was the only thing he could do. And I could
(12:58):
tell because I'm on social media and I want to
get my point out that I'm not leaving my team
in the lurch. Let people think whatever the hell they
want to think. Man, you could tell he is still
paranoid about that, and it was a lot for him
to say I want out. But that's the magic thing.
If you say you want out and you're a star,
you'll get out at some point. It's gonna happen, well,
no doubt.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
And you know, I think that's I don't want to
say Dame's being too sensitive. I don't think he's being
too sensitive, but I would say, listen, you and I
and everybody. A lot of people know, the people that
are the loudest on social media are often the vocal minority, right,
The sane, rational people don't tweet it, athletes don't tweet it,
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sportscasters don't tweet it, whatever. And I would guess the vast, vast,
vast majority of Blazers fans appreciates Dame, thanks Dame and
understands where he's coming from. So I don't want to
say I think he was too sensitive or anything, but
I think that's one you just got to turn off
the mentions and not pay attention. There's never going to
be one hundred percent approval rating. I would guess most
Blazers fans totally understand where he's coming from. And I
(14:00):
think that's one you just got to sit out.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Dam twitter at. How about a Fresca Aaron and Aaron
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Speaker 3 (14:36):
Yeah, free time.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
I could do. I could be an insider and solve crimes.
That's another job.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
I mean, that's and outsider all of the both.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
That's a show right there, like like Insider by day
and I Solve crimes at night. Yeah, that's a TV show, right.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
Part of being an insider is kind of piecing together
information to get together a whole story. So you're kind
of probably onto something a little bit to be honest, like.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
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wembin Yama after his second game went much much better
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in the MLB Home Run derby coming up in little
bit Vlad junior winning just like his dad won in
two thousand and seven. But uh, now we get news
today and you know, we talked about this on Friday night.
How many more games were we gonna get from Victor
webbin Yama? Right, he made his debut on Friday night
in Summer League, and there were some good stuff, there
was some bad stuff, There was some puzzling stuff. Eh
(17:20):
and what do we what do we say? He has
one good game and that's gonna be it. Well, that's
exactly what happened. He had one fantastic game and that's it.
You're not gonna see him in Summer League again. But
he leaves on the heels of a fantastic game with
twenty seven points. And I gotta be honest, it was
(17:41):
this is the most shocking thing at because watching wembin
Yama play yesterday, having the night he did where where
he bounces back from two for thirteen to score twenty seven,
pull down twelve pors. I don't want to say he
was a different player, but just seeing it's like he
was moving at full speed yesterday and he wasn't on Friday,
(18:03):
Because what was the thing we saw him on Friday?
Every time he got the ball. It looked like I'm
moving a three quarter speed because I want to find
a play to set up. I want to show that
I can pass. I want to I don't want to
be a selfish guy. I don't want to think I'm
gonna take all these shots. I'm gonna look for my
teammates who were open on the wing. And anytime I
get in the I get near and and and and
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deep into the post. I bang a couple of times.
I don't go anywhere. I back out and I look
to pass the ball out. He was very unaggressive and
he looked like he was moving at three quarter speed.
And then yesterday everything was different. Some of the moves
he had outside the arc to blow by a couple
of guys like he had won, like Alan Iverson, like crossover.
I was like, oh my goodness, he just left him
(18:45):
in the dust. It was it was it was like
he decided, Okay, I gave you that first game. People
didn't seem to be happy with it. I wanted to
make sure I set my teammates up. That was what
I was going for. Now you want to see me play,
I'll show you what I can do. And this is
what he does game two. That's the scariest part of
wembin Yama is what if the guy is just playing
(19:06):
with us, like, oh, you're not happy my first game,
I played it exactly how I wanted to, because I
want my teammates to know it's not about me, it's
about them. I want to pass, I want to set
them up. I want to do all of these things right.
I want to play great defensively. I want to get
a lot of blocks. I wanted to, but I don't
want people to think I'm just here to shoot. Oh
but apparently that wasn't good enough for people. Okay, I'll
give you what I give you in game two, and
(19:27):
it was completely I'm not saying it was a one
to eighty, but it was like watching a guy. And
then if you'd said to me, this was Victor wembin Yama, okay,
and then after a full year of the NBA, this
was what he looks like. Now that's kind of what
it looked like like he had fast forward on the
development button and said, Okay, now I can do all
of these things where I couldn't a year ago. Except
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this was from one game to the next.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
It was insane, so Jason, I'll give you credit once again,
my favorite NFL NBA criminal minds insider here. Thank you,
thank you, because I remember asking you again on Friday.
It was an ugly performance two of thirteen and I said,
you know, historically these guys have kind of played one
game just to kind of show out. And you said, well,
they're gonna play him on Sunday because they they can't
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have an offseason full of Is that the real Wemby?
And then sure enough, as you said, he was phenomenal
last night, twenty seven points and he's been shut down.
And I'll say this, like you know, I criticized the
NBA for load management, but I do think this is
the right move at this moment. There's nothing there. It's
not worth risking it. He showed everything he's capable of.
And the only thing I could take away from Friday
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night versus Sunday night is exactly what you said. Is
My big takeaway from Friday was I really got the
sense that it was his first time in the States,
and I really think he was trying to show the world, Hey,
I'm a good teammate. You guys have made this about me,
but it's not about me. It's about my guys. I
want to set other guys up. I don't want to
try to do too much. I don't want to try
to force too much. Hey, I can hit this eighteen
(20:54):
foot jumper over this six ' eight guy guarding me
anytime I want now. Obviously, he did go two for thirteen,
so it's not to say that it was like planned
to play that poorly. But I really felt like night
one he was trying to show everybody, Hey, this isn't
about me. I'm not a selfish guy. I want my
other teammates to get involved. Last night, it felt like
the game kind of came more to him as opposed
(21:15):
to him going to the game, and he was excellent.
I watched all the game last night. I watched obviously
on Friday when when I was with you, and it
was completely different night and day between the two games.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Yeah, he looked like like on Friday it was I'm
very limited when I get when I get the ball
into the post, like I'm very limited. I'm gonna try
to get it, but I can't. But he had no
such limitations on on on Sunday it was I have
the ball here, Yeah, these guys, I'm gonna'm gonna leave
them on I'm gonna leave them in the dust outside
in the ark, and I'm gonna get inside it and I'm
gonna be too skilled for these other guys. And then
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when you need to, I'm gonna bounce back out and
hit a three like that. That's kind of that's kind
of how like what like what if? That's what he's
just playing with us? And like I went out to
do that on Friday night and I good about it.
But boy, because you know, wenby being a Generation Z
superstar is going to pay attention to everything said about
him on social media. And maybe maybe he just didn't
(22:10):
want to have a big debut because of the Britney
Spears thing. And I don't want to take too much attention.
I don't want people to think that I'm I'm I'm
dissing Brittany by having a big game. After this happened,
whatever it is, I mean, you know, he listened to
exactly what people said about him, and and how not
that we had any sort of expectations tamp down, but
still it was, ah, yeah, it's gonna take a little
bit for and maybe a little while from the come in.
(22:32):
Who knows. How it's gonna go. Okay, I'll show you something.
I could turn it up that fast. I can turn
it up that quick. I mean that's the scariest part.
Like suddenly it's oh, this might not this might not be.
You know, Yanna is taking a couple of years to
be able to become a you know, the the best
player in the NBA. Maybe it's gonna take wembin Yon. Well,
like a few months and one the time we get
to January, it's gonna be watch out, man. This kid
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is just doing everything every single night.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
Well, it was night and day from the first game
in the second game. And I'll say this that I
did think I was one of those people. I thought,
kind of what Draymond Green said on that Paul George
podcast the other day is I thought, Okay, this guy
is seven foot five. He's gonna be elite defensively from
day one, but the offense is going to take time.
I'm here to tell you, I think it's gonna come
a little bit quicker, a little bit faster, and a
(23:16):
little bit more successfully earlier on than I had anticipated.
You know, like I said, you know, everything was within
rhythm last night. He has such a height advantage that
he can get shots up over anybody. Then you have
the plays around the rim. I don't know if you
saw this one, Jason, where there was like a loose
like a ball that bounced off the rim that he
tapped to himself and then he grabbed it and threw
(23:38):
it down before anybody even realized what happened. And so
I'm kind of now of the belief. And I was one.
I wasn't you know, he's gonna be a bust. He's
too tall, he's too skinny. But I wasn't that guy.
But I did think it was gonna take time. And
I now feel a lot better about his ability to
transition right away. Now I think it'll be interesting how
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the Spurs use him, how often do they play him.
My guess is he's not playing eighty two games next year,
even if he's capable of it and he's healthy. So
I don't I don't want to put stats on I
expect this, or if you do, no, no.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Expect Hey, he's got to play sixty five games to
be Rookie of the Year, but you bet that's sixty
five on the button, It'll be sixty five even so
he can win that award.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Do you think though, I mean, like, that's gonna be
an interesting thing, right because I'm guessing if the Spurs
are like out of playoff contention. I don't think they're
a playoff team. I think they're gonna want to pace
him in year one. But now you have financial incentives
to play. It's gonna be an interesting thing to follow
in the coming years because, like I said, I do
(24:40):
think like with a team like the Spurs, you don't
want to force him into too much action in a
rookie year. All that stuff. I don't know. I just
think it'll be interesting to follow.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
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(25:10):
hot take we promise coming up in ninety seconds. But first, oh,
I don't know how to say trending in Spanish. So
what's trending.
Speaker 6 (25:19):
I don't know what trending is, cousta.
Speaker 7 (25:23):
Let's find out what trending is in Spanish, because that's
anover reword I would use.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
Can you just drop a hassan one more time, Jason?
Speaker 7 (25:34):
Since then then yes, but I don't think that's the
Sometimes it doesn't translate the same, you know what I mean?
Speaker 6 (25:40):
Then then then cs then.
Speaker 7 (25:44):
But it's not this. This, this is a tendency. I
don't think this is meaning like trending.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Okay, you're taking this way too seriously. Okay, okay, hassa
some difference.
Speaker 7 (26:02):
Hassan speaking of yo, okay, okay, speaking of.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
That was too fast? That was too fast.
Speaker 7 (26:12):
Jalen Brunson tweeted this like four hours ago. Let me
this is what he said. I don't know if he's
been serious. I don't know if he's a jokester. Four
hours ago.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
No, it's way worse than that.
Speaker 7 (26:25):
He hates everybody, right, Yeah, let's get one thing straight.
Stop asking me about Josh, don't ask me about Dante.
I don't like them. They're not my boys. They are
all workers, nothing more. Thank you.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
Yes, Yeah, I love James Harden. Is what he said. James.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Stop that.
Speaker 7 (26:45):
I thought you were talking about the one he responded
to the video because he's responding to some of the
people when.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
The other one about James Harden.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
No, no, stop not putting that out in the universe.
You're not doing out there. That's not happening.
Speaker 6 (27:00):
Guys like father, like son.
Speaker 7 (27:02):
Because Vladimir Garero Junior is the home run derby champion.
Speaker 6 (27:06):
The festivities do continue.
Speaker 7 (27:08):
Tomorrow, with the actual All Star Game taking place at
eight pm Eastern Time.
Speaker 6 (27:11):
You can catch all the action on Fox.
Speaker 7 (27:13):
Yankees Ace Garrett Cole will be their American League starter
and he will face Arizona Diamondback starter Zach Gallen. Earlier today,
Northwestern University announced that they fired their football coach Pat
Fitzgerald following allegations of hazing in the program. You guys
talking about Victor Wan Banyama. He's being shut down by
the San Antonio Spurs for the rest of summer League.
Blazer's GM Joe Cronin told the media today that they're
(27:35):
gonna be patient when it comes to trading Damian Lillard,
even if it takes months, but he was open to
the idea that maybe Damian Lillard will actually stay in
Portland and Pistons and Isaiah Stewart. Yes, Piston's and Isaiah
Stewart have agreed on a four year, sixty four million
dollar rookie contract extension in the NFL. Jaguars signed free
(27:56):
agent tight end Josh Peterson. He played in the USFL
and he is the son of coach Doug Peterson.
Speaker 6 (28:02):
Again like father lake son. Back to you guys, Thank
you very much.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Monster song hot so we intelligent in yo, soy, I am,
(28:28):
I am a handsome cowboy, sauce. I am. No, I'm
a handsome cowboy. That's what I said. He did say
that handsome cowboy.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
That was correct, Dude.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
I was really good in Spanish win school. I won
the Spanish sport in my high school. Well, because it's
been thirty five years, California, I did know. You know.
Here's here's the worst part. Here's the worst part is
that I was so good in Spanish, and I know
I let down like both of my main Spanish high
school teachers because they thought like I would wind up
(28:56):
doing something in interpreting, like I was so good in
Spanish and one one weekend, like they set it up
for like people who are really good and because you
took either French or Spanish or I think we I
think we had like Mandarin was a was a possible,
like my last year in high school, and those are
the foreign foreign languages that were taught. And they took
like the best people from my school and they went
(29:16):
to like the u N for a day and you
got to listen in and everything and and uh, you know,
into the un you hear people would translate what was
being said because all the leaders different places like oh,
this is exciting. And then you know, I went and
I'm listening, I'm going, oh my god, I can't understand
a word that was being said. Again because I return,
I go what does this mean? And go, oh, well,
that's it's the conversational way they they they say this word.
(29:37):
I go, oh, we're not I wasn't taught that. Oh
what are they? What are they saying here? Yeah, that's
the conversation away because in school we get taught the
the the actual Spanish, not not how it's spoken, it's
how they're out of book, how like how it is
out out of the book. And so I didn't know
any I would back up my teachers like how'd you
do how'd you do it? Go? I couldn't understand anything.
I could I really, I could? I go one. They
were using all conversational Spanish.
Speaker 6 (29:58):
Yeah, very different.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Horror, So yeah, what does that mean?
Speaker 4 (30:01):
Horrible?
Speaker 8 (30:02):
Oh I'm glad that it meant just horrible because I
was about to dump that.
Speaker 6 (30:10):
Right what horrible?
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Right?
Speaker 4 (30:12):
No, you say that, I said this.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
It's like, see, you know how there's different dialects of Spanish.
You know, Manzi's from Costa Rica, so clearly Justin's just
from a different you know, just a different dialect. That was.
Speaker 8 (30:30):
One of my friends took Portuguese and that was the
biggest stumbling block because Brazilian Portuguese is completely different than Portuguese.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
I mean, it was, It's very hard. I'm like, I sorry,
I don't understand. Why don't you Why don't you teach
me the conversationals about age? And I wouldn't understand it.
But they were so upset. They're like not upset, they
were so disappointed, like, oh, he's he's not going to
go be a translator and and and be like you know,
politics or whatever, and you know, work at the UN.
And I'm like no, because I don't know what I
(30:57):
don't know because those aren't words like I'm I'm trying
to conjugate the verbs in my head and I can't,
well because we don't use this verb. Then why are
you teaching me that? Why they're teaching me that? It
doesn't help anybody. Thanks a bunch, Monzi. Yeah, so here's
your big hot take, right. We talked with this with
Jason lock and for earlier in the show. This is
(31:19):
a rubber hits the road year for Bill Belichick. If
the Patriots don't make the playoffs, he's out as Patriots
head coach. Whether it is I'm walking away, whether it's
a mutual decision, but things have gotten to the top
of the mountain are starting to come down the other
side on him. His way was never questioned. As long
(31:39):
as he had Brady, they were winning the Super Bowl
every three years. It was fine. But now in the
post Brady era, they have not played well. They made
the playoffs once. His personnel moves have not been great.
The roster is one of the least talented rosters in
all of the National Football League. The events of the
last week in which Belichick said, hey, we've been one
(32:01):
of the least spending teams in the NFL the last
couple of years that Bob Craft had to jump back at.
So you know, each side is not happy with the other,
and Bob Craft is pretty antsy, and you have to
be wondering is it Belichick or was it Brady? Did Belichick?
And of course having the play, yeah, well, I mean well,
and plus you had the plays for Spygates so that
worked too. So you have all of this going on,
(32:23):
and now you have players both present and past criticizing
what Belichick is doing. You had Mac Jones doing it
in the season last year. You had a Sante Samuel,
former player star with the Patriots, saying today on social
media that, boy, you got to stop treating Mac Jones
like he's Tom Brady. Maybe you'll start winning some games.
Players are taking him on like they never have before.
(32:44):
You had the lateral play against the Raiders last year
that I can't believe that happened on a Bill Belichick
coach team. You had players aside, we're going to throw
the football around in the final player regulation and then
wind up losing the game. If that doesn't tell you
that Belichick has lost his grip on the Patriots nothing else.
Would you throw all of that into the mix. This
is a do or die year for him as head
(33:04):
coach of the Patriots, and whether it's walking away, joint decision,
whatever it's gonna be, or craps isn't gonna make me
fire you, Bill, You're gonna make me fire you. This
is gonna be it because the Patriots aren't gonna take
one more year of being out of the playoffs and
saying yes, Belichick has all the answers for next year. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
I wanted to follow up with Jason, but he gave
such a good answer that it didn't really feel necessary.
But no, no, no, I'm being serious because I was gonna ask,
do we think there's a scenario where this ends well?
And I think I'm in the same boat as you,
Jason is I don't know if it's definitely this year,
it's not gonna end well. There's no pathway, in my opinion,
in the AFC right now with the quarterbacks that there are,
(33:42):
that Bill Belichick gets to somehow ride out on a
white horse and have his moment and it doesn't even
have to be a Super Bowl championship. But I'm talking
a deep playoff run. You know, you get to an
AFC championship game and you get out dueled by Joe
Burrow or Patrick Mahomes, It's like, it's exactly what you said.
It might be the least talented at the very least
offense in the NFL right now. Matt Jones, I don't
(34:04):
think he's as bad as he looked last year. Give
him a real offensive coordinator. I think he'll be better.
But in terms of actual talent, his ceiling is so
much lower than those elite guys. I just sit there
and say, I don't know how this ends well for
Bill Belichick because there's no pathway in the AFC the
way things are set up right now.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
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I'm telling you, if they don't make the playoffs this year,
he is out eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox
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debate of the day. I want to have it because
(34:43):
there's no way I believe what was said about it.
That's coming up next right here, Jason Smith. Aron Tor
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to us courtesy of the Pro Football Hall of Fame
NFL Rookie Watch account on Twitter, which reminded everybody that
Andrew Luck retired four years ago. He'll be eligible after
this season for the Pro Football Hall of Fame, and
suddenly the debate came out there as Andrew Luck a
Hall of Famer, and anyone who says Andrew Luck is
(36:14):
a Hall of Fame player either A is just looking
to say something different than what's real and what's accurate,
or B they just love Andrew Luck because oh he
was so good, and I loved he was so good,
and he was so class. No matter what, I'm always
gonna defend Andrew Luck to the death. Oh it's always good.
Those are the only people that can say Andrew Luck's
(36:35):
a Hall of Famer. Those are the only people. And
that's all you're gonna get because Andrew Luck his career
after he retired, Yes, he was young. He had two
great years, two phenomenally great years right in twenty fourteen
and twenty eighteen. He had one pretty terrific year in
twenty sixteen. He had two below average years and one
(36:56):
average year. And oh, by the way, the rest of
his career he was hurt, missed a year and a half.
He got to one AFC Championship game. Right, Terrell Davis
is in the Hall of Fame. Well, I don't think
Terrell Davis is the Hall of Famer, but at least
I could say, hey, he's got two Super Bowls and
he won. You know, I can't just put Andrew Luck
in because he was a number one pick and he
was pretty good, and everybody likes him. He's one of
(37:18):
those players that enjoys a great reputation, right He and
Mahomes and Steph Curry, guys like that. Other players just
want to bang their heads against wall and say, no
matter what these guys do, they wind up with a
great image and reputation. I can't get it. It just happens.
But everybody likes Andrew Luck. You look at what he's
done on the come on. His all time passer rating
(37:40):
was eighty nine, and if you're not at one hundred,
you're not considered a really good quarterback. You're an eighty
eighty is like way below this guy. What didn't even
have a ninety for his average quarterback rating. I mean,
I can't put that guy in the Hall of Fame,
and anybody who does just wants to do it because, Hey,
I'm gonna give you the other side of this. I'm
gonna give you the the the lower percentage of each
(38:03):
side of a story, and I'm gonna make my mark
on that because i'm gonna give you that part. They'll
give you the unpopular take, even though it's a really
really small chant. I'm gonna give you that, or I
just love him because outside of that, I don't see
how you can say Andrew Luck's Hall of Famer.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
Well, you just found the person, Jason, I Have you really.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
Think he's a Hall of Famer? Wow? At go ahead,
Buddy Good.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
My problem is the standard for Hall of Fames has
been lowered so much that, like and I heard Colin
talking about this during the break on one of the
promos that that maybe we hear I don't know if
the audience heard it, but Colin talked about on his
show today, is that the standard has been has been
dropped so low, and so to me, first of all,
there have been other guys that retire early Jim Brown
(38:45):
retired at thirty Calvin Johnson retired at thirty years old.
I have no fundamental issue if you decide to retire early.
Oh by the way, if Andrew Luck retired because of
injury where he literally couldn't play, I think it's a
different conversation, and it shouldn't be a different conversation. So
when I look at the Andrew Luck debate, here's what
I see. A guy that essentially played five pseudo healthy
(39:06):
seasons for playoff appearances, one AFC Championship Game, four Pro Bowls,
led the league in passing touchdowns in twenty fourteen, in
his very small window, he was one of the best
quarterbacks in the league. Now the window was smaller. He
didn't have the career, the totality that we want. But
it's supposed to be the Hall of Fame. And now
(39:27):
I'm just stealing from Colin because I just heard him
say it, like, it's not the Hall of very good
and we're putting good to not great players in all
the time this guy in his era was great. I
would prefer to see him in.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
Yeah, but that doesn't make it right, because I get it, Yes,
we are putting very good players in the Hall. That's
why we joke around with Jason Coleen. We have Momond
and say, hey, he's a Hall of very good voter.
All right. He's very upset. He also agrees that, you know,
like we're putting too many people in the Hall of Fame.
But that doesn't make it right. That does well, if
you're letting this guy and you gotta let this guy,
and no, it means we should stop letting very good
players in. I would go go back and say, hey,
(40:00):
let's look at this guy's candidacy and say, if we
should boot him out, sorry, here's your bust, We're gonna
break it in half on national television.
Speaker 4 (40:07):
He would have to remove every Jet then, Jay.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
We don't have that many. We really, we don't have that.
Speaker 4 (40:11):
We would have to remove every single one. Curtis Martin's
out st You.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
Stop Curtis Martin being out come on guys, the fourth
leading rusher all time.
Speaker 4 (40:18):
Realize if Andrew Luck was on the Jets, how many
Super Bowls they'd have.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
They wouldn't have zero because they would find a way
to not win with them, They'd find a way. Uh No,
that would be the games where they would get down
like fifty to seven, and he would throw three touchdowns
in the fourth quarter and it wouldn't be enough.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
Curtis Martin five time Pro Bowler, Andrew luck four time
Pro bowler like that.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
No, it's great.
Speaker 4 (40:36):
It's Martin played for like thirty seven names.
Speaker 3 (40:38):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
That's exacly what I'm saying. He did not play for
thirty seven the guys for the fourth most rushing yards
all time. Hey, he's stunk fourth most rushing yards all time.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
Same number of Super Bowls and andrewa.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
Uh yeah, Okay, nope, but he decided to keep playing
and again fourth leader.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
So you'd rather have a guy that just piles up
stats in their absolute meaningless, or you'd rather have a
guy that is great in his era at what he does.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
Curtis Curtis Martin in his era was always one of
the top two or three running backs in the game,
and that's pretty good.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
Andrew Lucket his era was one of.
Speaker 1 (41:13):
The two or three. I don't know that he was
really he had two great years. Those years he was
one of the best, but the other big of the
six years, not all six were great.
Speaker 3 (41:22):
He had two facerated Kenned he couldn't play.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
He had two he had two great years, he had
two years that were terrible, and he had a year
and a half where he couldn't play. I'm sorry, I can't.
I can't give a guy credit for something he didn't do. Well.
Let's put Jalen Hurts in the Hall of Fame. The
guy had one great year, but why not. He's young,
he had one, he's been in the league two years.
One year is great. Why not put him in the
Hall of Fame. I can't do it.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
I can't do it for Jalen Hurt plays seven? Could
we could continue this conversation.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
We'll have more on this cause see that's why I
like this debate. Harry Hall of Famer. Come on, that's
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