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Mike Harmon and Arnie Spanier go into depth on the demographics of the most hated sports teams in the country.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
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Speaker 3 (00:27):
Alright, let's get it on. It's hour two of the program.
Here Fox Sports or Radio Jason Smith Show with Me
Mike Harmon, No Jason Smith to night. As you heard
the big voice, guys say, it is Arnie Spaniard, the
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Twitter at stinkin Genius one over at Swollen Dome. We
got a lot of good stuff planned, plenty of yellow

(00:50):
legal pad notes, and then I've got a lot of
surprises for you, Arnie, because you can't read my writing
very badmanship. Well, you know what works for me, And
in the end, that's really all that matters. Because you
know we'll go down a highway. You either come with
me or don't.

Speaker 4 (01:07):
I'm along for the ride.

Speaker 5 (01:09):
I just did it would have been nice if maybe
you should print more maybe, well, you know you did
do it, and I still can't read it.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
Well, no, I mean some of it's printed. I mean
you could read the word Baltimore in the third column, Ken,
I think, and the word Belichick. I think that one works.
I'm not even you have so many spies. Oh, it's
a lot of stuff. I'm trying to incorporate the nineties stories. Yeah,
but plus the ones I had.

Speaker 5 (01:33):
But I are you gonna if you're gonna go by hours,
there should only be four?

Speaker 3 (01:37):
No, no, no, no no, But that wasn't by hours. That's
just here's the way.

Speaker 4 (01:39):
I know.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
There's a grid of all the stuff, and let's see
if we could connect the dots. Maybe it's connect four.

Speaker 4 (01:45):
I think it's better off with the Roman numerals. What
could I tell you?

Speaker 3 (01:48):
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(02:10):
and his job security, and then celebration as we get
ready to the second half of the Major League Baseball season.
Outside of show Heo Tani, we talked about him a
lot yesterday, the time he spends in Seattle, celebration of
all things Etro and the love that they have that
so we are here for you with so many stories.
Tomorrow we get back into the second half of the season,

(02:35):
some big series right off the jump, and with the
show Heyo Tani talk to take it to the next level.
Their schedule is not kind to them coming out of
the break, Arnie. So if there is the Ardie Marino,
all right, we've got to make something happen. The next
two weeks are gonna decide it. And welcome to our audience,
AM five to seventy LA Sports. I know Tim Kates

(02:57):
had a little bit of Dodger talk as he starts
pondering the trade deadline. Uh, rolling forward and and what
the second half will bring home?

Speaker 5 (03:06):
You said Ardi Moreno would never trade Uh.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
Well I would, I would. I would say this from
my perspective, what am I getting? I don't think he
trades him to the Dodgers. I think there's just a
lot there unless he's divesting himself with the team in
short order.

Speaker 5 (03:22):
Which look if you already threatened to sell the team
once and it looked like he was gonna sell it,
he's not gonna be in But that didn't.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
But that didn't go anywhere. No, but that was literally
a Hey, let me stick my finger up and see
which way the wind's blowing and what I can get
based on what else is going on in the sports market.

Speaker 5 (03:39):
But my point is, though Mike, I'm gonna take the
best off or I can get, because I don't think
he's gonna be in there for the long haul because.

Speaker 4 (03:45):
Where there's smoke those fires.

Speaker 5 (03:46):
So maybe he doesn't sell it now or two years
from now, three years, maybe four years, maybe five years,
but it seems like to me that'll sell it. But
if I'm the Dodgers, I'm going to go ahead and
off up a little bit more than that everybody else.
But I think I've a good chance of resigning him
and making him stay in LA well.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
And I think that's one of the considerations in the process,
you know, for the ardy moreno side of it, What
am I getting for him right psychologically? Do I think
I have a relationship enough? And we talked about it
a little bit yesterday. I got some love in the
iheartsports daily. But we'll recap it here, just the idea
of when it comes to it, do I feel better

(04:28):
about losing him in free agency? I wasn't able to
close the deal or that I sell him for the
Magic Beans.

Speaker 4 (04:37):
I e.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
Prospects whatever they're ranked in organizations or by national organize,
you know, a national publication and baseball experts and and
all these different analytics, et cetera. All right, Dodgers have
a lot of top prospects in the top one hundred
lot and we've watched the farm system produce for years.
There's still prospects. I don't forget this.

Speaker 4 (05:00):
They won't be playing in LA anymore, right, Look, I do.

Speaker 3 (05:03):
So there's something about the homegrown guys playing with the
homegrown team which is all so full, that's.

Speaker 4 (05:09):
So blown out of proportion. How that well, you know what.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
Takes that day. You got two great months out of
Cody Bellinger as a cub. Is that what you're gonna
tell me? But you that's great.

Speaker 4 (05:19):
I'll tell you this. If I'm the Dodgers. I called
the Angels.

Speaker 5 (05:22):
I say, take four guys off my triple A roster
or three guys off my triple A roster. One guy
off by double A roster, said Otani. The only question
is how much money do I have to throw at
him so I could resign him so he doesn't become
a free agent. Is it gonna take what ten year?
A billion dollars, one hundred million a year? Is that
gonna cut it? Because that's what we're talking about. Seven

(05:44):
hundred million dollars, eight hundred million dollars for ten years.
What how much of a check do I got to write?
Because I'm gonna have to write it. If I'm the Dodgers,
you you tell me, Mike, how much you're gonna offer?

Speaker 3 (05:55):
Well, I think the question is how long is he
doing both jobs? That's the other part you kind of
have to try to factor into this. Right, he brings
in a lot of revenue.

Speaker 4 (06:06):
I signed the contract.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
Well, but but we know this, right, he's a guy
that brings them a lot of revenue. And that's one
of the things out of the Angels that can't be denied. Right.
The buzz around every start, every bat is discernible. Right,
it is a timeout. Now the Angels always draw three
million fans, right, That has been a pretty consistent thing.

(06:30):
But obviously the walk up gate on dates where he pitches,
you're going to get more. You talk about merchandise sales,
you talk about the national interest there uh international interest
and tourism and all of those things that come to
come to bear that that are great for Artie Moreno
to say, hey, I traded him for a couple of prospects.

Speaker 5 (06:49):
Just a couple though, even if it's four, it's still four. Well, okay,
so you know what's better off you let him walk
away and get nothing. That's that's always a good play. Well,
but you're a good one man.

Speaker 3 (07:01):
But you're also still technically in the race. I know
it's tangential and it's it's a hard road to run here,
especially with Mike Trout injured along the way. You are
five games behind the Orioles right now as you sit
going into the second half of the season, and as
I said, second half schedule not exactly their friend jump.

(07:22):
You've got Houston in New York. That's your road trip
for six games out of the jump, Houston then New York.
Although the Yankees aren't exactly world beaters. Right now, on
the Tuesday, July eighteenth, if you want to see the
Angels and the Yankees, you can get a ticket for
as low as five dollars.

Speaker 5 (07:38):
I'm sure that's in New York. Well, well that's insane.
I don't know if that.

Speaker 3 (07:42):
Ticket for eight dollars on the Wednesday. I mean, now
we're talking about Smith things.

Speaker 4 (07:47):
You're you're the Angels. You lost five in a row,
You're in fourth place.

Speaker 5 (07:50):
The only reason you're not in the last is because
the Oka Days are in your division. Sure, maybe they
could make a run at the wild card, but its
just said. Trout is out for about six weeks. You're
not going anywhere. Matter of fact, you didn't go anywhere
when you had that. But that's the larger point though, Arnie.
You couldn't win with Trout.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
You've got Otani if you're ardy Moreno, and it's like,
you know what, it's all gonna turn around when I
trade for these prospects. So that's what I'm saying. No,
I'm riding this out, and I'm coming up with every
dime I can possibly turn over to try to sell
to keep him there.

Speaker 4 (08:22):
No he's not.

Speaker 5 (08:22):
He's already he's already probably told you he's not coming back.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
But maybe he hasn't if he has, If he because
if he told you he's not coming back, then yeah,
you trade him and you're done.

Speaker 5 (08:32):
I guess if he hasn't told you, then shame on
him because he probably knows whether he wants to come
back or not. Look, you can't keep him because first
of all, you could tell if you wanted to say,
if you wanted to stay, you'd probably have had more
than an initial talking right, But.

Speaker 3 (08:48):
That doesn't mean it all leaks to guys like you
and me to talk about.

Speaker 4 (08:51):
Oh, now you're telling me the insiders aren't doing their job.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
Now, I'm telling you not everybody is an open book
that wants it all out in the in the public.
Right from all these reports. Otani's that private guy, right. Yes,
he's been living and hanging out in Seattle. We talked
about it yesterday, and yes there's a connection to each
Why are though.

Speaker 4 (09:14):
That's my point? Why point?

Speaker 3 (09:17):
We don't know anything.

Speaker 4 (09:20):
These insiders should be giving us the info.

Speaker 3 (09:22):
But I'll tell you this, not everybody wants everybody to
know their business like Lebron James telling all these guys
that work really for him through under the guys of
other four letter networks and other agencies and reporters like
not everybody's that guy.

Speaker 4 (09:40):
Not everybody's that guy.

Speaker 5 (09:41):
But I'm telling you now, they would know if Otani
wanted to come back, because they'd be further along and
you'd be hearing that. There'd be negotiations going on right now.
I don't think he wants to come back. I think
he's ready to go to another team. I didn't say
the Yankees. I think he'd liked to go to the
Dodgers though, whatever it is.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
Maybe, but you can talk about the Dodgers, you talk
about Seattle, you talk about the New York I'm sorry,
the San Francisco Giants. I've got the New York Giants
on my brain because you know, football is imminent and
I'm in the middle of a fantasy draft. Uh the
Padres out there. I know Matt and Petros talking about
Juan Soto, right, he's only got one more year of control.
But you can you make a deal there didn't answer, though,

(10:22):
how much do you have to give him a few
of the Dodgers if you trade for him? How much
are you going to have to give him to say, Okay,
I'm gonna sign on the dotted line. It's probably gonna
be what sixty million a year, seventy million a year
to really make it happen.

Speaker 4 (10:37):
I was gonna say, you're kind of sure, changing them
there on sixteen.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
Well, but I don't know what's realistic. Because the other
thing is if legitimately he wants to win, he knows
the price of admission, he knows the way these things
work in terms of the the moneies that that go
if you spend over the threshold, right your your fun
taxes and stuff that have to be paid back into
the system, and how that can hamstring future things. So

(11:02):
so like that's one of the other considerations. If he
really wants to win, and that's the thing that would
make him leave Anaheim, then is he gonna go to
a place there that potentially at hamstring's other deals? I
would say no, no, But I mean it doesn't mean
he's signing for bargain basement.

Speaker 4 (11:20):
No.

Speaker 3 (11:21):
I just love to play baseball. But the point is
that you know, I've seen the one hundred millions or
whatever else. I can't buy that, you know, I don't
think he's doubt that he's worth every penny of it,
because whatever anybody says, well, these guys make too much money.
He's like, look at how much the franchises make, look
at the valuations, look at these TV deals, whatever they

(11:41):
get their fifty percent as as a as a union,
as a player base, so plenty of money to be distributed.
So the top players should be getting paid. But there's
few teams really that we could talk about from the
financials that can make this happen. Right, the Mets, Dodgers, Dodgers,
the Cubs, and the Ricketts family probably could put something together.

Speaker 5 (12:04):
I think Siava could probably work something out if they
wanted him, you know, obviously.

Speaker 3 (12:08):
Well, but that that becomes the thing, right do you
start bringing in other money entities? And this is where
folks get a little uncomfortable with the state of sports,
talking about you know, live golf and and wealth funds
that want part of organizations or in some cases saying
I'd like to buy one out right, But I mean
there's money to be had, plenty of cash to be

(12:31):
had if you want to let someone into the ownership
group to try to bring a player of Otani's caliber
or insert your favorite player that's going to be next
for a huge contract here, does it never.

Speaker 5 (12:42):
Work out when one guy gets all that money in
baseball and then you know, you hit that one big signing.

Speaker 4 (12:49):
I mean, you have so many other holes to fill.
Does ever work out for that team?

Speaker 3 (12:54):
But that but that's the larger point to it all
is does it work and for the individual? Now, if
you have a cluster of individuals, Dodgers have that ability
to do it. And look add that with all the
prospects that come up and perform and the rosters littered
with them and guys that have gone on uh and

(13:14):
been part of their success over the last decade plus.
That yeah, I mean it's got to be that healthy mix.
But certainly trying to find that one guy that's gonna
put you over the top. And and look, I like
the I love the idea from the sports talk radio
side of things of rental players and whatever else we
have to sell.

Speaker 5 (13:35):
If the Dodgers got him now, just think about this though,
if they even they rented him, well that that that's
a World Series. You might as well just forget about
it though, win the World Series.

Speaker 4 (13:45):
No fans are buds about it.

Speaker 3 (13:46):
Yeah, I mean obviously, you know, you want to talk
about information and perfect information of stuff. I mean, if
you start seeing odds move, then yes, certainly we have
an inkling of what's going on with Sho Hao Tan right,
future odds and everything else. So we have those that
are in the mix, all right, the futures right now,

(14:08):
the let's see from bookies dot com, Dodgers are favored.
You like that name, and then you've got the Mets
and the Yankees staying with the Angels is currently the
fourth at six to one, and then you have the
Padres Giants, the Cardinals come in later on, and then

(14:29):
you've got the field. The Cardinals, as we talked, we
had John Palm Morosi on earlier in the week. I
mean they they were having a miserable season. While they
may not get rid of Nolan Arenado, they do have
some young hitters that might be on the block to
try to build towards the next year. So you know,
with the baseball history right always, the greatest fans is

(14:51):
what they tell you, which makes no sense. You know,
I can't respect a place and Saint Louis people you
can hate me. That's fine. Outside to their stadium. I
was in there for for some you know, soccer travel
last week and we're walking around the ballpark and I
love the ballpark. I love that neighborhood. I loved everything
about it until I saw what was engraved on the steps.

(15:11):
They had your good old take me out to the
ball game. But they pluralized cracker Jack, which is just wrong.
Jack Jack. There's no ass.

Speaker 4 (15:25):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (15:25):
I just just saying it because because you're wrong. I
never noticed that, and something like that really doesn't.

Speaker 3 (15:33):
It bothers me. I'm a man of letters. You may
not be able to read my writing, but it's brilliant.
He's already spaniard in for Jason Smith on my car.
But I mean, the next two weeks are gonna be
fascinating to see what does start to percolate in terms
of rumor conjectures. Right now, everybody's grasping at straws and

(15:53):
trying to find any little bit about his personality that
they can right. Certainly, everybody at the All Star Game
wanted a photo op, wanted a handshake. He heard the
crowd and their reaction. He certainly showed love to Seattle
and the people and the crowds and their energy and everything.
So it leads to a lot of great speculation and

(16:16):
because we love our our sports world. Look, if I'm
already Moreno, I'm hopeful that I can get a deal done.
But I'm not giving them away just for some magic beans. No,
you're not gonna take my revenue through September if that's
the way it's gonna work, because I'm also not trading
them up the five.

Speaker 4 (16:32):
Well, you know, you'll know right now.

Speaker 5 (16:33):
You should know pretty close on whether he's coming back
or not. So it's not gonna catch him by a surprise.
I think that at least o Toddy could do is say, hey,
you know what, mister Moreno, I'm not coming back. You
better go ahead and get me, get get what you
can now, because uh, it's not gonna happen for you
next year.

Speaker 3 (16:49):
Look at you. You want to be Damian Lillard. I'm loyal.
I'm loyal. I love it, I love what I'm doing.
I want to trade.

Speaker 4 (16:55):
There's no loyalty. That's right.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
No, that's right. You go go get your best situation
for you. It's what I say all the time. Yeah,
but also from the side of an Artie Moreno, I
got a guy that I know every day we're in
the news and we're doing great things. We may not
be winning a lot of games. Uh, but the cash
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Speaker 3 (18:30):
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Speaker 4 (18:50):
Sorry, Oh that was so much fun. You aren't here
for that.

Speaker 5 (18:53):
I said at the beginning of the year, I would
watch everybody's card in La if the Lakers won the championship,
and sure enough they won the championship. We must have
had a line about three four miles long on Ventura
Boule of Art.

Speaker 4 (19:04):
It was. It was just crazy. Absolutely, it was a
lot of fun. Though it was great.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
Well, but that's just it, and like some of it is,
the hyperbole, and that is what makes this business churn.
I try to be a little more pragmatic and occasionally
have my outburst and fits of irrationality. And one of
those that comes in is a story you sent to
me a little bit earlier. When we say the most
disliked teams in baseball. Yeah, now everybody's got that team

(19:34):
locally that they're not not a fan of. It's codify
a right or code of phi, whatever, baseball and so
the and it was put out by the game day
MLB is where you got it. And so we have
the most disliked teams in baseball. And I can't believe
this to be true based on this list.

Speaker 4 (19:57):
All right, I have no problem with the top two,
be honest with you.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
But but we start getting into some of the like
the White Sox are fourth. I'm not sure what he
cares about the White That's what I was gonna say.

Speaker 4 (20:09):
I'm not sure that just.

Speaker 3 (20:11):
A lot of cub fans that just early and voted often.
I mean it is Chicago, right, go through the registries.
Oh that guy, that guy hasn't been alive for a
number of years, but hey, he voted straight down the
party line. Uh, Yankees first.

Speaker 4 (20:27):
Yeah, and that's that's only natural.

Speaker 5 (20:29):
I mean the I mean that's based on like the
last one hundred years or something like that. The Yankees
are public going to be number one. Matter of fact,
if you did a list of most hated teams just overall,
just out in baseball, I would think that the Yankees
would probably be top three, probably maybe even top two,
behind the Dallas Cowboys or something like that.

Speaker 3 (20:50):
Well, and then that's the larger thing. I think. If
you go cross sports, you start getting in the You know,
am I tired of this as well? Right? Because the
longest time in any NFL list, while the Patriots would
be up there, they'd be one of the most popular, Yes,
but also one of the most hated, because you know what,
I'm tired of looking at them, right. The Lakers are

(21:12):
gonna well, but the history is there, right, you still
have people like my age, a lot of folks that
just adopted anybody that won. So you have the Yankee fan,
DA Dallas Cowboys. No, no, but I'm talking with the
the age of a lot of your fans, right that
are that are in the in the demographic as it were,

(21:33):
it would be Yankees and Lakers Celtics, but and the Cowboys,
like those would be your dominant teas, which means if
you didn't like them, well they're on there you're most hated.

Speaker 4 (21:44):
Is like the Canadians.

Speaker 5 (21:46):
I know nobody cares about hockey, but that used to
be up there in the.

Speaker 3 (21:49):
I think it would be there. Yeah, I think it
would probably show up there. But the number one, Yeah,
according to this most like dislike teams of baseball, Yankees
number one, Astros are number two.

Speaker 5 (21:58):
And they could make a case for number one, the
Astros because of the whole cheating scandal, So I certainly
see why they're either number one or number two.

Speaker 3 (22:05):
Well, and that becomes the thing of how much how
much legs does that have years later? Right, certainly we're
on in Los Angeles, and I know there are a
lot of uh Dodger fans right now in their cars
or or getting on a treadmill after work, or whatever
the case may be. We appreciate you being part of
the show and giving us a listen wherever you are nationwide,

(22:26):
but certainly Dodger fans, I mean that's something that's always
gonna burn no matter how few of these guys remain
on the roster, and even once they're long gone and retired.
I mean, that's one that you're never getting back exactly right.
So you have that, which also brings the Yankees back in.
But the third is the Mets, which everybody listening to
the show and they're tired of Smith talking about that.

(22:47):
That could be but right, Tysher, I'm right there, right,
I mean, that's why they're number three on this list,
you are. It's Jason Smith's fault.

Speaker 4 (22:55):
Other than Jason Smith.

Speaker 5 (22:56):
Is there a reason Have the Mets done something that
I think they've Kingman's performance on his performance, his performance,
you want to talk.

Speaker 3 (23:04):
About his performance?

Speaker 5 (23:06):
Is there something that Mets did that I'm not thinking
about micro Well.

Speaker 3 (23:09):
I would think part of it, like if you go
to the recency bias of it, it's just the amount
of money they spent. So it's now we're gonna go.
Now it hasn't worked out, but it's the Hey, we're
going to go and try to buy our way into
the winning Okay.

Speaker 5 (23:22):
Then I can see that that. I don't know if
that's worthy of a number three, but I could see that.

Speaker 3 (23:25):
It might move him down the list if people saw
the latest additions to missus met. Yeah, they they've added
to the posterior there, so that's kind of a big
deal in the mascot world.

Speaker 4 (23:36):
Wow, I didn't even know that.

Speaker 3 (23:38):
Well, you know, and maybe it ties to you know,
some of the other random statistics. Do you do you
get excited? Do you hit better at home or road
if you're a Mets player or if you're coming in
as a road player?

Speaker 4 (23:52):
Is it a distraction? I don't know.

Speaker 3 (23:54):
The White Sox at number four, Like you said, why why?
I don't understand. Yeah, like unless it's all cub fans voting,
I don't either.

Speaker 5 (24:04):
Is there what what the heck did they do to
get number four on that list? Nobody even I mean,
they're an afterthought. They're an after thought in Chicago.

Speaker 4 (24:12):
They're not even hay nobody thinking about them though.

Speaker 3 (24:16):
It is a small much smaller fan base, I mean,
which is funny because I mean we always talk about
the Yankees and Mets that way, And so you have
the Mets at three, number five, You've got the Dodgers.

Speaker 4 (24:27):
Again, why maybe Los Angeles.

Speaker 3 (24:30):
But well it's Los Angeles. Is also they win and
they're there all the time, and this this could also
be something we talked about a little bit late yesterday,
but we've got something a little bit later in terms
of viewing and which teams are going to be routinely
in your prime time showcase games, right, the Dodgers are

(24:50):
on that list. Winning in the LA market gives you
those showcase opportunities. And like the Patriots and the football
side of things, like all right, I've seen them. I'm
not talking for me. I'm talking you know, if you're
talking about this hateless and a rationale as to why,
maybe that that makes sense.

Speaker 4 (25:08):
I think that's a little high.

Speaker 5 (25:09):
I never knew the Dodgers were gonna be like a
hated team and like, oh, here come the hated Dodgers
in town.

Speaker 4 (25:15):
And I mean, sure, there's some robberies. The Giants, Yeah,
trying to be You thought the Giants were gonna go ahead.
The Giants aren't even on the top ten.

Speaker 3 (25:25):
Yeah, number six, the Philadelphia Phillies.

Speaker 5 (25:27):
That's gotta be because of what the city or the fans.
I mean, I'm guessing that's.

Speaker 3 (25:31):
What the city and the fans. Yeah, a little bit
of Bryce Harper.

Speaker 4 (25:35):
I think absolutely.

Speaker 3 (25:36):
You know there's there's just like that's also a Jason
Smith thing. He used to call him Bieber the Cardinals
because they tell you how much better they are, and
they pluralized cracker Jack, right and also.

Speaker 4 (25:49):
The long time winning and and all of those things.

Speaker 3 (25:52):
I mean they had Keith and Andes. Yeah, and he's
on this list twice.

Speaker 4 (25:56):
Yeah, well they exactly. They traded him almost in his prime,
did they to the Mets?

Speaker 3 (26:01):
Was it or toward the end of his Well, he
had that nineteen seventy nine split MVP with Willie Stargel.

Speaker 5 (26:06):
Do you know he didn't even get like three voters
didn't give him a top ten vote, I believe, or
something to that effect.

Speaker 4 (26:11):
That's why he ended up tied. Otherwise he would have
won it. Who did he make mad? Because I don't
know the double checked out.

Speaker 3 (26:19):
You might have just made that up.

Speaker 4 (26:21):
I might have made that up. No, I think that's true.
This is where the quick keyboard hands of Steve de Sager.
Yeah exactly what exactly?

Speaker 3 (26:28):
Well, you know, Arnie, look a crowd and I'm not.
And that's not throwing shade at Fenley, who will hear
from in a minute. Not at all. It's like you
were it is No, it's it's not at all.

Speaker 4 (26:38):
It's okay. We could throw a shade at him. That
doesn't bother me.

Speaker 3 (26:40):
Why do you got to do that? Because you know
he's now gonna serve up revenge in a matter of
about four minutes. Here, the Red Sox at eight makes sense.

Speaker 5 (26:49):
Oh yeah, I mean I thought the Red Sox would
actually be higher. So I'm I'm a little surprised they're
down there at number eight because I mean, the dridd
and Red Sox and people love watching them lose all
those years until they finally wanted it as a wild card.

Speaker 3 (27:02):
Yeah, I mean Sunday Night Baseball. Yeah, it's the Red soixe.
I mean you even had Red Sox team personnel in
the dugouts saying why are we on Sunday Night Baseball again?
Because it also changed your schedule? Right, Getaway day is
no longer getaway day, right, and it changes up what
the next week sets up as. Number nine are the Padres.
I gotta imagine that's the same thing kind of as

(27:23):
the Mets.

Speaker 5 (27:24):
Yeah, exactly, money and yeah, try to buy yourself.

Speaker 4 (27:27):
A World Series.

Speaker 5 (27:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (27:28):
And then finally, ten makes perfect sense. It's the Oakland Athletics.
They should be higher than ten.

Speaker 5 (27:34):
I mean, people, the fact that people just don't care
about the a's is the problem.

Speaker 3 (27:38):
But well, that's that's a larger baseball consideration, right is that.
Well they are no consideration, and they've been in the
news a lot, the expectation of the move to Nevada
and they can go back. They had Moneyball, and we
watched that movie and we quote it chapter and verse,
laugh about the fact that you don't have the pitchers
involved there at all. By the way, you had three

(28:00):
of the best pictures of the time. But let's just
ignore them a little bit. Let's watch the great Philip
Seymour Hoffman as Art Howe and getting it. Hey, hey,
you celebrate Philip Seymour. Ha I love that guy. No,
I love that guy. I miss him. He got to
look like it's been a while though. Yeah, yeah, he
looks like you're got to be part of the family.
But it's the the idea for them is the frustration,

(28:23):
and it shows the ill, you know, the the bad
part of the game at times, and the economics of
it and how it comes to bear you fight with
your your local politicians. And let's face it, it's a
small fan base as well. So the hatred more just
the story and the mess that it's become.

Speaker 4 (28:42):
Let me ask you this.

Speaker 5 (28:42):
I and I know we're doing baseball, but if we're
doing football or whatever, we're doing cross sports, where do
we put the Chiefs in that?

Speaker 4 (28:50):
I mean, where do we start really hating that?

Speaker 7 (28:52):
Right?

Speaker 3 (28:53):
Well, it's funny right soon because of Travis Kelcey. Have
they reached their tipping point? Right him on Saturday Live?
Some of the the chirping, the golf stuff. Hey, here's
how many beers I'm gonna drink? Whatever? You know, Maybe
it's it's gone over there because we got tired of
the Warriors really quickly, right right because they were everybody's darling.

(29:14):
They're changing the game. Look at Steph.

Speaker 5 (29:16):
Shoot, can't might not be top five eighted teams in
the NFL. I mean you you certainly got Dallas in Philadelphia.
They're good as the Raiders. There's four that are probably
more hated than Kansas City right now, Pittsburgh, do you
hate them?

Speaker 4 (29:31):
Like and New England? New England still in the New England? No?

Speaker 3 (29:34):
No, Yeah, so there's.

Speaker 4 (29:36):
Five before you even get the Kansas City. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:39):
I think they're but they're reaching a tipping point or
maybe the law of Patrick Mahomes saves you. I haven't
had a chance to watch the Quarterback Show just yet,
but that will certainly play in right. People a little
bit of overexposure people generally get a little bit salty,
as Harrison saying, over ex commercialized, handle me with care. Yeah,

(30:03):
there you go, travelling Wilbury's quotes.

Speaker 4 (30:05):
Look at you.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
That's what we do here, showing my age and my
musical sensibilities. Here he's already spann your in for Jason Smith.
I'm Mike Carbon here Fox Sports Radio. You've got your
most hated top five. Bring him on because we're gonna
I've got a whole ranking thing that we're getting ready
to roll through. DJ Alex ty Shirt helping me make
this all make sense, and then we'll bring it to

(30:28):
you and it'll become a regular routine kind of part
of our socials at Swollen Dome. But coming up next,
we're gonna get back into burger time because there's two
international burgers as to would you actually eat these things?
But first it's Brian Finley with what's trending in our
sporting universe?

Speaker 7 (30:46):
Well, thank you, Mike, and I think you yes exactly, Well,
thank you. Speaking of a daddy. How about a tenth
kid for Philip Rivers a daddy for the tenth time,
all from his wife Tiffany. Yeah, how about by the way, Northwestern,
they continue to make some changes here revolving around their
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(31:11):
is going to be the new interim head football coach
for twenty twenty three. Braun stepping in for Pat Fitzgerald,
who was fired recently for those hazing allegations. And Northwestern
isn't done trying to sniff out other misdoings wrongdoings with
other athletic programs. They have dumped their baseball coach, Jim Foster,
who's accused of bowling and creating a toxic environment within

(31:33):
the team's operations. Quinn Williams, the All Pro defensive tackle
for the Jets, gets a contract extension to the tune
of four years and ninety six million dollars. That would
be sixty six million dollars guaranteed. At Wimbledon, we do
have our women's final, Marquete Morosova winning inter semi final
matchup against a Linas Fidelina three and three, and it's

(31:56):
Vandrossova taking on the sixth seed on Jibur Tunisia. In
the championship match. The Dodgers are inking free agent outfielder
Jake Marisnick. As the second half of the MLB season
gets underway starting tomorrow, and in golf of the Scottish Open,
through one round, Beong Hung is your leader at nine

(32:17):
under has a two shot edge. Rory McElroy is three
shots off the pace. He is tied for third. Mike Harmon,
I'm thinking that your co host tonight, Arnie Spanier. He
talks a lot about his basketball game. I think he's
Matt Geiger without a jump shot. Is that something that.

Speaker 4 (32:36):
Sound where from? Wow?

Speaker 7 (32:39):
Well, I just I picture you out on the court
and your vertical leap is the size of a credit card,
And I don't really know.

Speaker 4 (32:47):
And that is a good point.

Speaker 7 (32:50):
So I'm just not sure how you are able to
score any baskets.

Speaker 4 (32:53):
I will bet you my job I could beat you
in one.

Speaker 7 (32:56):
On all right, next time you're in LA we're making
it happen.

Speaker 4 (32:58):
I will bet my job on that.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
You know, remember the movie along came Polly mentioning the
the great Philip Seymour Hoffman and rain Man. Let it
Rain Remember when they play the two on two game. Yes,
and the dude's a bit free. Yes, and there's some
problem that's Arnie.

Speaker 4 (33:15):
But see what Arnie's gonna do.

Speaker 7 (33:16):
He would just back me up, like just post up
on me, and he would call fouls on everything.

Speaker 3 (33:21):
Oh, I have no doubt. Yeah, especially once the shot
goes up and it's.

Speaker 4 (33:26):
A miss, like wow, Yeah, he'll do that.

Speaker 3 (33:30):
He'll do that to you, no question about it. Hey,
coming up next, we're gonna talk cheeseburgers. Thanks Faily, appreciate you.

Speaker 4 (33:35):
Oh, I gotta I want want to read you this Twitter.

Speaker 5 (33:38):
It says here, my friend has been listening for ninety
minutes for the cheeseburger story. Very interesting, top ten MLB
list for the dislike as a Dodger fan, it is tough.

Speaker 4 (33:48):
But he's been waiting ninety minutes for the cheeseburger story.

Speaker 3 (33:51):
My friend, Well, that's how you keep people around. Come on,
it's a great story. We're gonna get to it, and
we'll do it next year on Fox Sports radios. We
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Speaker 3 (35:16):
Welcome back in Fox Sports Radio Live fromthe tirac dot
Com studios. Mike Harmon and Arnie Span You're with you
here on a beautiful Thursday night. Hopefully you're enjoying your
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(35:37):
the little voice in your head at Stinking Genius One
where you find Arnie find me over at Swollen Dome.
If you want to get in on the top five
hated list, you want to include Arnie and me. We're
good to.

Speaker 5 (35:52):
Soccer teams listening overseas soccer team because there's a lot
of hate that goes on.

Speaker 3 (35:57):
Well you know, look, that becomes a whole other rankings list.

Speaker 4 (36:01):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (36:02):
I would think within the United States, if you pull people,
maybe maybe man you gets in again because of how
much they're mentioned and stuff. But I don't know that
it equates to hate. No, But over there no, certainly
there we can have fights from every division in every league.
Now the latest fast food stunt as it's being called,

(36:24):
the real Cheeseburger, Like, both of these are gonna be
from Burger King. So I'm not trying to give you know,
other than the great song that they have about the Whopper,
which just gets in your head. It's like an earworm.
And you know, remember George the Animal Steal of course
w w F legend back in the day, a man

(36:45):
who was here suit he had a bald head, but
maybe it was a furry man, and he had the
green tongue and all that stuff, and you know, the
whole idea was that he was well clinically insane. But
like one of the things he would do is he
run over into the corner in the middle of the
match when he thinks he screwed up, or or just
to get the crowd involved, would start banging his head

(37:08):
against the turnbuckle. And that's what that Whopper song from
Burger King does for me. I want to go be
George the Animal Steel or the Missing Link if you
remember World Class Championship Wrestling. That's too much wrestling for me,
please do Hey, hey, hey, I gotta go, and I'm
bringing everybody in with one big hug. Anyway, Burger King

(37:31):
Thailand doing the quote real cheeseburger, twenty slices of American
cheese on a bun with no sauce or meat.

Speaker 4 (37:42):
Yeah, that's so.

Speaker 5 (37:44):
It's like a glorified grilled cheese sandwich without the grilled.

Speaker 3 (37:47):
It's not grilled.

Speaker 4 (37:48):
It's not grilled. No, thank you, I'm gonna pass on
that one. One. I need to have some meat. I
don't need twenty pieces of cheese, and three.

Speaker 5 (37:56):
I gotta tell you, I'm I always say cheeseburger because
everybody gets cheese on their burger.

Speaker 4 (38:02):
It doesn't make a difference to me if I got
cheese and my burger or not.

Speaker 5 (38:04):
It's not that big of a deal if I got,
you know, a cheeseburger or not. But twenty slices I
saw a picture of that. That's just too much.

Speaker 3 (38:12):
No sauce, no pickle or at all. No Paddy, who
gets that you drilled or men? I mean, if you
want to talk about operational efficiency, I mean I think
that's the I want my food in thirty seconds.

Speaker 4 (38:23):
It's like what eleven or twelve dollars or something like
three bucks. No, isn't I thought, yeah, No, it's.

Speaker 3 (38:27):
Priced at one hundred and nine tie Bot and that
equates to about three dollars fifteen cents.

Speaker 4 (38:33):
Wow, you must have figured that out. I thought it
was no.

Speaker 3 (38:35):
No, it's in the article New York Times read right now.
I mean they only did it for a week, but
it was something that they decided. Uh and one of
the uh the new sites someone reviewed it as quote
the dryest burger I could imagine someone else had. It's
a quote shock to the digestive system.

Speaker 2 (38:54):
Corse.

Speaker 3 (38:55):
Now there's one hundred and four calories and eat slice
of cheese. Wow, so you're talking about you're still at
a two thousand calorie meal plus the bun, even though
there's no sauce or anything going on there.

Speaker 4 (39:07):
That's just in thais here?

Speaker 3 (39:09):
No? I was just I mean, I'm sure you could go.

Speaker 4 (39:11):
Man.

Speaker 3 (39:11):
Look there's plenty of burger plays, including get Burger, Whole Angles,
have it your way, but they're gonna charge you what
fifty cents of selection, so that burger is gonna get
pricey pretty fast. They also had another one in Brazil,
which was a Barbie themed meal. You get a pink
vanilla milkshake, right, So you got the strawberry strawberry nest

(39:34):
quick mixed in, so that's good, and then you put
the straw in. They give you a little pink frosted
doughnut to part of it. But they also have a
cheeseburger top with bacon bits and has a pink sauce
with a smoky flavor. So they hand you a burger
that's got like a pink rim kind of leaking out,

(39:54):
like it would be the special sauce, but now it's pink.

Speaker 5 (39:57):
I don't like when you change colors of of things,
Like I don't like when you give me the bun
in a different color, or my beer being green or
something like that on St.

Speaker 4 (40:07):
Patty's Day. I can't do that with.

Speaker 3 (40:10):
Even if it's not affecting the taste, just it's.

Speaker 4 (40:13):
The visual of the whole thing. I can't do that.

Speaker 3 (40:15):
You know, well, I mean you can take your eye
and just say, hey, I guess you could be like
that kid that became a meme where he's just sitting
there in his high chair and they give him a
cheeseburger and his eyes are shut and they're like, well,
it's either the greatest cheeseburger this kid's ever had, and
he's loving every second of it. Or he's ready for

(40:37):
his nappy, he's about to fall asleep.

Speaker 5 (40:39):
Have we run a runout of ideas for these burger places?

Speaker 4 (40:43):
You know what I mean? Just we're just coming up
with craziness. Now he looks.

Speaker 5 (40:47):
Put twenty slices of cheese between a punt and sell
that as the ultimate cheeseburger.

Speaker 3 (40:52):
I don't know if you sell a good portion of them, right,
You got to try something marketing sales. I mean, it's
all about coming up with the concept that's going to
draw people in.

Speaker 4 (41:02):
I mean, think about the soup. I'll take a bots,
the ball souper, the big bac. Please.

Speaker 3 (41:06):
If they if they thought they could sell a lot
of units, you know they'd be there. You know they would, right,
I mean you're trying to dismiss it. I'm like, no, no, no, Hey,
if they thought it would sell and the projections were good,
because really a lot of it just gets tested out
in central Illinois where the blandest taste buds are, because

(41:26):
then you could sell it to everybody after that. That's
the way it works, Arnie. As we roll through, Hey
coming up next, we turn our attention to the National
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