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Mike Harmon and Arnie Spanier discuss more on the Northwestern Situation with Pat Fitzgerald and bring in guest Jason Cole.
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so we rang the batphone and already span your answered
once again at Stinking Genius one and once again with Dan.
(00:50):
About eight minutes, I get a leg pad. I get
ninety seven texts.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
Why do you get so mad at me because I
give you a bunch of topics?
Speaker 5 (00:58):
I don't know why that bothers you to don't do
something else with your life. I've got the thing covered.
I don't live, man, I get the bat call. What
do you think I'm just gonna sit around and do nothing.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
I'm gonna get up out of bed and I'm gonna
start working on this show.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Well, but I get a bing bing bang. My kids
are looking at me like, what's going on. I'm like,
it's harny.
Speaker 6 (01:21):
It's called work.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
No no, no, no, no, no no. See that could go
into one email. I mean, I appreciate the effort as
opposed to a bunch of no shows that I get
sometimes coody. But I was like, my god, I'm glad
I don't pay per text.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
But by the way, I just want to say real
quick before we get going. He shout out to my
I didn't get to play basketball tonight because I was
doing the show.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
My tea. Wow, look at you.
Speaker 7 (01:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
My team wallster a third in a row because they're
very soft. These guys, they're way I'm the enforcer on
the team.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
You're the enforcer. Are you also the heart and soul?
I mean, are you the guy giving the sideline speeches?
Speaker 4 (01:54):
What do I alwayst I I will foul the other team.
Speaker 6 (01:57):
I'll hit somebody.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
My guys are like Matador defense, olay, just there, shoot
a layup.
Speaker 6 (02:03):
They they're not.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Everybody's so nice on the team. They just walk around.
They don't they don't don't found, they don't hit knock
somebody to the ground for crying out loud.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Is just going back to our conversation about Wembin Yama
saying how much more physical European basketball can't.
Speaker 6 (02:20):
Let's be physical a little bit.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
For crying out loud, like you haven't met already, Spaniard,
He'll put you in your place.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
That goes to show you how much I like you.
That I missed my basketball.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Game, I appreciate you. No, no, no, I appreciate the love.
Speaker 6 (02:31):
I could have made it.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
The game would have been over forty five minutes before airtime,
but I didn't want to push it. You know what
it is in case I got another topic. And how
many topics I send you I have?
Speaker 3 (02:45):
I had twenty of my own, and then you sent
me a legal pad to legal pad pages worth of
fun and excitement and all your outlines.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
I hope you have National French Fri Days somewhere on
your Listrip's a lot of stuff.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Well, you know what, that's the thing. I was trying
to respond to you and the the legal pad. I
had other things I was trying to get done today.
Speaker 6 (03:08):
I don't know you really have to, but you should
have been a doctor.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
That's how you write, well, you know what, that might
be my next career as we flow through. Well, you know,
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Speaker 6 (03:33):
Oh yes, hopefully at.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
The participating restaurants. There are a couple of national chains.
We'll just leave it at that as well as I'm
sure some locals getting involved. Hopefully they're ready to manage
that a lot better than the it was seven to
eleven day the other day. Wow, and it was so
so free slurpies. You want to talk about a train wreck?
Speaker 6 (03:55):
That crazy?
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Well, but like parents handing their four year olds a
cup to go get themselves a slurpee, that's just a
terrible idea, a terrible administration by the stores. You know what,
don't employ the guy to keep you running the mop
because these little dopes are running and letting these things
flow all over the place. How about you employ them
to fill the cups and hand. What what flavor would
(04:16):
you like? You like the orchata, you like the coke,
you like the blue raspberry? What do you need and
you fill it yourself?
Speaker 6 (04:22):
Yeah? Why do you know all the flavors?
Speaker 3 (04:24):
I'm just curious because I wanted my free slippy until
I saw that it had become a uh well, it
was a wreck. I'm gonna say, I'm gonna gonna put
it nicely. I'm just saying the guy on mop duty,
I don't know that he paused for the entire day,
So hopefully your Friday a little bit better.
Speaker 6 (04:40):
By the way, I'm more of an onion ring guy,
but that's okay.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
You know, well, because because you know what the onion
ring does and this and this is your fast food
and casual dining and and sometimes you know, your pub
grub kind of thing. Thing of record is the onion
ring is gonna be cooked for fresh for you because
they're not going through the same level of like the
fries may sit right, because they just keep those cooked
because they know more people are gonna order fries the
(05:06):
undion ring. No, no, no, that's an Arnie Span your special.
That's a Mike harmon special. That's the kind of thing
that they have to go to the friar and they've
got to make it special for me.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
But by the way, with does those RB triangles counted
French fries or that that's like a distant cousin down
the street.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Oh yeah, I think it's along that same idea. But
the question is no, no, there might be the second cousin,
might be the guy you know, second cousin through marriage.
All those things could happen. I don't know. Twice removed
all of those things that stick. And genius one is
where you find Arnie on Twitter. Find me over at
Swollen Dome. Now, I'd be remiss if we didn't start off.
(05:42):
We got Jason Cole, a longtime friend of the show,
of the network. Here, Arnie. You know Jason and I've
known Jason a long long time. He's gonna come up.
In about fifteen minutes. We're gonna talk a little bit
about the potential hiccups of the sale of the Commanders,
something we talked a little bit with Steve Hartman about
last night, as related to the John Gruden emails and everything.
(06:03):
But I remember, if I didn't start with the latest
in the Northwestern saga because that's what we call it
saga at this point as they fire their baseball coach,
Jim Foster. Uh subject to a lengthy HR review, violating
university policy, abusive behavior, more in the hazing and comments
(06:26):
and treatment of athletes related to their rest and recovery
and rehabilitation efforts and all of that and again more more.
Speaker 6 (06:36):
Just nothing to do with the football thing though, right, No.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
No, they're completely independent.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
But when I first saw that, I'm like, oh my goodness,
this is like a whole university world, throughout the whole university.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
No, and that and that's that's where we're heading to,
is uh. The report as as it was laid out
Danny parkins uh the prepared copy UH from the Northwestern
the he has created a top it's environment run off coaches,
broken the spear of his team to the point where
they would likely not be able to feel the full roster.
This year, subject of an HR investigation that found him
(07:09):
to have violated university policy by engaging in bullying and
abusive behavior, inappropriate comments to about a female staffer, speaking
negatively about his staff to other staff members, all of
these things thing some comments that were racially insensitive and
then discouraging seeking medical attention, you know, the rub some
dirt on it, shaking off right, and all of those
(07:31):
kind of things.
Speaker 6 (07:32):
So it's very dangerous.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
So that was a reporting from Danny Parkins of the
Score there in Chicago, and Foster immediately came back with
the it was a quote hit piece, and well they
found what they needed. Brian Anderson, former first round pick
of the White Sox. He will take over the program
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here on the same day that it was announced that
defensive coordinator David Brawn who came in in January after
they dismissed the last coordinator and they've had, you know,
some long time assistants had retired and had they'd made
some moves and so Braun came in after the initial
hazing and all those disturbing details were were reported, soving
(08:21):
so he yeah, so he was not included in any
you know, other repercussions or potential to I have been
violating any of the code of conduct and and everything
that came out in that report. So coming over from
North Dakota State, he was the FCS Coordinator of the
Year in twenty twenty one, so he'll now be the guy.
(08:42):
But once again when it came to dismissing the baseball coach,
and I tie these together because I want to reiterate
the point I made yesterday that the athletic director needs
to go.
Speaker 6 (08:53):
Oh absolutely, they.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Fired him and then addressed the team via zoom, once again,
not an in person. Let's talk about this, Let's be
on the scene, and let's listen to your concerns, let's
listen to your questions, all of those things. It was
another example of Hey, we've got the technology and we
can immediately turn off our camera, so let's do this.
(09:17):
So once again a spineless effort from the administration here
at Northwestern. But what you've seen over the course of
a week, and that's really all it's been, is just
a place that seems devoid of structure that or I
should say, the structure that was in place was clearly
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rotting from the inside. And that doesn't mean that you
didn't have players that were on board with a lot
of the coaching points from both the baseball side and
from the football side. But we get the details and
if any of them are true, let alone all of them,
it's unacceptable, and it was unacceptable thirty years ago. But
(10:02):
most kinda said, all right, that's the price of admission
for a program. So we move forward, and even in
twenty twenty two, twenty three, I'm sure you know they're
to varying degrees at high schools and colleges across the country.
There are things that you'd probably raise an eyebrow to,
you know, the right of passage, the initiation. We've seen
(10:22):
so many reports of things that fraternities and sororities through
the years, and you know, shut down of those systems
in a lot of schools, or new rules and regulation
coming in of oversight, and that's certainly one of the
things that plays out here in Northwestern. They've always had
for football season, the camp in Kenosha that's been canceled,
(10:44):
an independent person in the locker room that isn't on staff, right,
all of these things have to come in to make
sure that you're actually abiding by the new rules of
engagement and eradicating any of the behavior years and attitudes
that resulted in what happened this weekend.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
Mike, this is absolutely atrocious. Absolutely not only that it
can go under the athletic director right under his nose
and everything else, how many people had to keep this
quiet between coaches and players and administrators. I mean, the
(11:25):
whole thing is just miserable. And who thinks that for
one second that this is right.
Speaker 6 (11:32):
I mean, who thinks of this.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
In twenty twenty three, Not that it was right earlier, Mike,
but I mean at this time, you have nothing better
to do than go ahead and make it tough on
kids and harass them. And I mean all kinds of
stuff that's going on. I'll tell you about the football
program and the baseball program. I mean, I don't know
how bad this is going to set Northwestern back because
(11:55):
a lot of deep people go to schools that actually
have you know, pretty good athletic the departments.
Speaker 6 (12:01):
This is just horrible in every which.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
Way, and you just again wonder how many people have
to keep this quiet well.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
And that's the larger thing, Arnie, is that the structure
was in place and behaviors that were documented. Some of
its just again, I don't understand how any of it
fosters the camaraderie, teamwork and all that building of you know, whatever,
the toughness that you're looking to do. Like I remember
(12:31):
the drill we had when I was a kid. It
was the bull in the ring and it was administered
terribly and I could do hours on the way the
volunteer coach. These weren't people that were paid. They they
were parents and they did a terrible job. And they
were abusive because they brought all their stuff from home
and work out onto the practice field and just beat
up on us. But it was the kind of thing.
(12:54):
Plenty of details in my forthcoming book, The Magical Me. Yes,
I'm stealing it from Kenneth Brannig and the the Harry
Potter Universe. But no, just the idea that you have
this type of structure that go in. But bull in
the ring was all right, you're there, you've got the
football and you get hit. It had derogatory and pejorative
(13:16):
terms sometimes the other things you would call it. But
the idea was you wanted to keep the football and
people ran at you and tried to hit you, and
you knocked them out of the ring, knock them down whatever.
As long as you held onto the football, you were
still in charge. Right if you tackled the guy with
the ball, Now you got the ball, and how long
could you stay in? Was it wrong? Because of all
(13:37):
the hits and the you know, get up and take
another blow kind of thing and all that. Yeah, but
there was at least there you could say, all right,
we're building towards taking hits, absorbing hits, learning to get
back up. Whatever the rest of these details. I'm looking
and I'm shrugging my shoulders, going, how does any of
this not come off a as creepy, b as criminal?
(14:00):
See is like just completely unnecessary.
Speaker 6 (14:03):
If we have like a Bobby Knight in his prime, now, he.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
Wouldn't last he would last a season before he would
lose his job.
Speaker 6 (14:11):
Well that's not those ways those days were all.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
But you know what's interesting, though, Arnie, is is you
bring up Bobby Knight and that type of environment and
what we know of and what programs have had and
and look some comparisons to other situations. I don't know
that they're necessarily you know, apples to apples, but you
know you make them as you will because it's all
part of a long standing problem, right, You build feeftoms,
(14:35):
and people get comfortable, people get power, and if you're successful,
nobody's really looking behind door number two to see how
the sausage is made right right, and and if everybody's
buying in and nobody's raising their hand going hey, this
is wrong to the point where you know, you you
raise really alarms and get the media involved or whatever else,
then then it'll continue to go on. But the the
(14:58):
idea that you have, I have a number of coaches
who've more or less said well, I'm done with this
over NIL and the changing face. And Fitzgerald was one
of those guys. Remember when Northwestern players wanted to unionize,
he was one of the most outspoken, in vocal coaches
against it. So all of this, you know, kind of
festers to where we are here in twenty twenty three,
(15:20):
where you have players with more equity and say in matters,
and you've had coaches that have decided they don't like
the new rules of engagement. And this is another piece
to it that nobody's ever gonna discuss. Yeah, we can't
do what we did to the players back then, but it's.
Speaker 6 (15:36):
There is college sports.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
I'm not even gonna say college football, but you could
say what college football, college basketball, college baseball, or you
want to throw it all together. Is it more toxic
now with the NIL and the instant transfer rules than
it was back then?
Speaker 6 (15:51):
Or was it still more toxic back then.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Well, I think you as a coach got you got
a longer, longer run right now?
Speaker 6 (16:03):
Oh for sure.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Now we guys, you know, a couple of losing, because
that's the other thing with Fitzgerald is they weren't winning.
There's no path to getting great again. And next year
you add two more teams, you got rid of the divisions.
All of that adds up to a not only do
you have all this on your watch, maybe the magic
is gone from being able to perform at a dominant level.
(16:24):
So it's an opportune time also to reset the program
regardless of this outcome and what's going on, and that'll
go into a lawsuit, there's no question. We'll talk about
this a little bit more as we go on, but
we've got Jason Cole coming up. We'll put a pin
in this. Continue this conversation a little later on in
the show. Alreadie Span. You're in for j Jason Smith tonight,
(16:47):
ad how about a fresca if you want to ask
him how he's doing and how many times he went
and found himself some free fries, because certainly that was
on the menu, no doubt about it. But Jay Skull's
gonna come up talking all things NFL. Here we continue
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Speaker 7 (18:37):
Hey, buddy, So we're describing this as grab ass and
not professional radio. No no, no, no, no, no at its
highest level.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
No no, the two cannot be. Are not mutually exclusive.
Speaker 7 (18:52):
This is extremely erudite, that's right.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
No, no, no, I mean we usually get a minute or
two in there. But I am I brow discussion.
Speaker 7 (19:01):
I make this up as I go along, and is
nothing but.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
Brilliant so eyebrow discourse right here, exactly, no question about it,
all right. Washington commanders report out of the Washington Post
today that these legal ees uh legal channels and trying
to get that indemnification that might delay the sale of this.
Is this something that's going to drag out, or does
(19:26):
someone finally just put their foot down and be done
with it.
Speaker 7 (19:29):
Oh, they'll they'll do some type of indemnification that is
better than the indemnification that was done on the rams
moving from Saint Louis to Los Angeles. That was the
quote unquote indemnification that Kronky signed and then two years
later said, I'm really not responsible for any of the
(19:49):
legal costs here. You guys have to pay. They'll try,
they'll try and figure something out. I mean, here's the
other thing I think about this with the Gruden potential lawsuit,
and I'm not even gonna qualify it. What is Gruden?
What is his stance that I decided to send messages
(20:15):
from my workplace email to somebody else's workplace email with
all sorts of for you know, discussing comments that eventually
got me fired, but somebody else is responsible for the
fact that it leaked out. I don't think he has
much of a case. I mean, he might make a
few million dollars, right, but he's not gonna like, he's
(20:39):
not going to like destroy the league, burn the League
down all that kind of stuff that he's talking about, Like,
that's not happening here. The best he's gonna he's gonna
get arbitration. It's like there's is much ado about nothing.
Speaker 6 (20:51):
What why is it? Why doesn't he have information? Why
he knows where the bodies are buried?
Speaker 4 (20:56):
He could He could probably hurt a lot of owners
if he wanted to.
Speaker 7 (20:59):
Jason, I don't think Gruden can't, but you know, but
Snyder can. But Snyder's already out and he's got his
price of the six billion. He knows his partners don't
want him. He also knows there's a problem with Snyder.
He can't stay because he knows he can't get a stadium,
because he knows everybody in Washington, DC hates him. So
(21:20):
if you're trapped in the fact that you can't get
out from underneath that crumbling, awful place that he's in
right now, then you know you're backed into a corner.
And he's not going to get anybody in politics to
help him out. They just want him gone and he'll
take his money. He'll be happy and and you know,
salute to Roger Goodell who managed to help help Dan
(21:42):
Snyder turn his one billion dollar investment and two plus
decades of being the worst owner in football into a
six a five billion dollar increase in value, right, like,
how do you do that? Like that? That's an amazing thing.
But after Gruden, right, he may know if you secrets
here in there, it's nothing that the NFL hasn't dealt
(22:05):
with before. I mean, look at my favorite owner himself,
Jerry Jones. I mean, the guy has a you know,
is a soap opera and it comes out every off season,
right like of something he's done. He's still there and
he's still making a lot of money. He's not going anywhere.
So I mean again, Green has got a really bad
case in my view that you know, might make him
(22:27):
a few million bucks, but he's not really going to
do any damage to anybody.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Well, now you got Jerry Jones tied to Clarence Thomas,
giving him a Super Bowl ring and everything else.
Speaker 7 (22:38):
I think it's more is that more of a Clarence
Thomas Probably, Like the more and more we see a
read about like Supreme Court justices and particularly Clarence Thomas,
like like did they just have their handout?
Speaker 3 (22:49):
No, it would seem to be the case. I people
wanted to excoriate Jerry Jones on this, and like, I
don't know, he just handed.
Speaker 7 (22:58):
The other office, right, it's the dude who's not supposed
to be taking it who's the problem, not Jerry. It's like,
there's no crime in offering. There's a crime in taking
that's the problem. So, you know, I salute Jerry for
trying to bend the rules as much as he can,
you know, But yeah, like Clarence Thomas, I mean, yeah,
(23:22):
and he's not alone, but he's certainly at the far
end of the spectrum of taking of taking stuff, There's
no question about it.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
By the way, what happens if this sale doesn't go through,
then then what happens.
Speaker 7 (23:32):
It's the sales going to go through. Because again, as
much as as much as Snyder may try to play
hardball right now, everybody's going to look at him and say, Dan,
what's your end game? Your endgame is you can try
and continue to own the team, and you're going to
(23:52):
go nowhere and you're and you also have a bunch
of your partners who don't like you, and they don't
want to be in business with you anymore, and frankly,
they don't trust you. Right, So how long do you
want to continue on, you know, in this battle, especially
when you're I mean, yeah, the value of the team
(24:12):
is probably going to go up a little bit, but
it's not going to go up substantially until there's a
stadium deal. And you can't get a stadium deal done,
So he really doesn't have the leverage that people want
to believe other than he still owns the team, and
that's adequate leverage, you know. I mean, somebody has to pay.
But he's already played out his hand as far as
(24:33):
he can go.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Jason Goal with us here at the Jason Smith Show
with Mike Arman, Fox Sports Radio. Jason out tonight, Arnie
span your the stinking.
Speaker 7 (24:41):
By the way where you know, what is he like
stalking Aaron Rodgers and Malibu or something like that?
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Well, I mean he's getting ready for hard.
Speaker 7 (24:50):
He's just driving up and down Highway One going Rogers.
You know, like, is that what he's doing?
Speaker 3 (24:56):
Well, without giving too much away, he's having some success
with the daughter's softball squad because he is.
Speaker 7 (25:04):
Muzzle.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
So we we knock whatever this desk is made of.
He'll be back with this.
Speaker 7 (25:11):
We're still going to mock him.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
Relentlessly, There's no question about it. I mean, look, National
French Fried Day. I texted him how many tricks?
Speaker 7 (25:19):
Yeah, it's like did he go to Tommy's today for
the chili cheese fries?
Speaker 3 (25:24):
I love that. I mean, not not to mention, just
in general. I mean after the Jets were officially announced
as the Hard Knocks participants, I mean, how excited is
he is?
Speaker 7 (25:34):
This? This is delicious? Isn't it fantastic? As watching watching
Robert Salago? Aaron? What do you want to do?
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Aaron?
Speaker 7 (25:44):
What are we doing today for practice?
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Hey?
Speaker 7 (25:46):
Aaron? Do you like this play?
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Aaron?
Speaker 7 (25:49):
What do you think of our defense? How is it
is that that that's what we're going to be watching
for like six episodes or something.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
I think Aaron Rodgers is the type of guy though,
that would really go over the top and yelling at
people just so people can write the worst of him
and then just come out and it's like, oh, actually
we're best friends, We're all buddies. It's all all a
giant work.
Speaker 7 (26:11):
Yeah, what was it Jack Benny? And who was who isoil?
Speaker 3 (26:15):
That's right?
Speaker 7 (26:16):
Who is Jack Benny's spoil? I'm trying to remember with it,
but yeah, like those two going out. I mean, god,
I just stated.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Mylf before Frank Nelson.
Speaker 7 (26:25):
Yeah, that was not Arnie. Don't lie. That's not before
your time. Arnie. Come on, Okay, if I said if
I said murder, she wrote, you go, yeah, I was
watching that with my kids.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
Well, I mean, if nothing else, you remember how Pat
summer All used to say it and teases that it
was later on.
Speaker 7 (26:44):
In the evening after the game Murder, she wrote.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
But he always had that pregnant pause. On a new Murder,
she wrote, she.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
Wrote, Hey, Jayson, I got I wanted to ask you.
But you're a Hall of Fame voter for the NFL.
I'm curious, Well, would you have been voting if you
had to vote on Bonds?
Speaker 7 (27:04):
Okay, Barry Bonds?
Speaker 4 (27:06):
Yeah you say no, so you're not voting strictly on
statue you do you're making it personal?
Speaker 7 (27:13):
Then, well no, it's not personal. Woman. The guy made
the guy made a joke of the game, like, you know,
like he changed his career. Look, Barry Bonds would have
made the Hall of Fame without stare rights. He decided
to make it turn it into a joke. And he's
not alone. I mean McGuire's there, Clement's is there, samuy
Chos is.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
There, all the owners, all the coaches and everybody else.
They're a commissioner.
Speaker 6 (27:38):
Yeah, but go ahead.
Speaker 7 (27:41):
But but the thing about is Barry, like Barry did
everything in the world to pay people off and you know,
and get around the rules. And yes, technically sort of
it's not against the rules, but you know, like this
is an ethical problem, right, spirit, right, right, And and look,
(28:02):
I'm not trying to pretend to here that there aren't
ethical issues in the NFL, especially with guys who take steroids. Right,
it hasn't you know. I mean, but while Alzado is
not in the Hall of Fame, it is not headed
to the Hall of Fame, and some of those other
guys are not making either. But but yeah, there have
been guys who cheated in the NFL. They just didn't
do it in such an over the top fashion to
(28:26):
kind of kind of make make a mockery of the game.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
And that Tom Brady with the deflated flot how dare
you one of the dumbest things I've ever seen that.
Speaker 7 (28:38):
Yeah, it's I mean, look, that's that's a one time
thing that he got away and maybe he did it
four or five times, okay. But changing the pressure of
a football, okay, it's a lot different than injecting or
taking bills or rubbing the clear and the cream on
you to increase your your muscle mass so that you
(28:59):
can become a completely different human being standing at the
plate where any strike that you get you're gonna hit
seven thousand feet. I mean, he just completely changed who
he was. And again, it wasn't really necessary. You know,
it was necessary for him to set that home run record.
It was not necessary for him to get into the
Hall of Fame because he was a great enough player
(29:20):
to get there.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
The next PSI report I see from the NFL be
the first. Let me ask whatever, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 7 (29:28):
That's a tired and really dumb one too. I mean
that's the same thing as like I'm going to erase
the back line in the batter's box so I can
get extra nine inches out of the batters.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
Let me ask you one last one real quick, jacoble
all the running disgruddled running backs Jacobs and Saquon Barkley.
Barkley reportedly turned down nineteen million guaranteed, and everybody's like, well,
you get the second second franchise tag next Year's like, yeah,
he's got to get through this season healthy. Correct, So
saying it wrong is like, what are we doing?
Speaker 7 (30:05):
Look, they should guarantee the first two years the total minimum, right, Like,
so that'd be that get him plus to twenty five
guaranteed and that's minimum because you're going to get that
money pretty much anyways. Right And if you're if you're
the team, you're saying, Okay, we franchise tag game and
we play them on the one year deal. How hard
(30:26):
is he really going to play for us? How much
effort is he going to put in? So why not
just guarantee? Like I would write him a you know,
he's so vital to what they do. Give him thirty
million dollars guaranteed. Make it a short three or four
year deal. You know, he's a running back. He's probably
not going to play through it. And if you if
you get to a second, you know, a third contract, okay,
(30:46):
then you've had you have a hell of a player.
But they know better than this. They're just being you know,
stupid cheap on it. And I don't I don't really
understand why. I mean, this is not this is not
that hard from a math perspective to figure out.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
He's Jason Cole with us here as he is every week.
Read him on OutKick Go buy cowboy Bees for everybody.
The marketing and that will begin in earnest here.
Speaker 7 (31:13):
It's about to start, is there. They're headed back to
the right.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
Yeah, I do. I do have my daughter designing a
logo for future cowboy Bees references. So we've got that
going at. Jason Cole. Sixty two is where you find him.
Jake Cole, thanks for stopping down with us. As always,
I appreciate you stop. Buy first sandwich at some point.
That's our guy, Jason Cole. We you know, we pay
him in sandwiches for his appearances. We're a little bit
(31:41):
behind because we haven't been able to sync up schedules.
Well no, no, no, look, we want to do it
in person. We want to commiserate, have a meal and
and and have a discussion together. You know, I mean
you can't just send random sandwiches in the mail. I
mean you can almost have been inclined to try that
once to see how it works. He's Arnie Spanner in
for Jason Smith. I'm Mike Carmen. As we come to
(32:02):
you from the tirech dot Com, Fox Sports Radio Studios. Uh,
it's fairly quiet night in the sporting universe. That doesn't
mean that this guy will be It's Brian Fenley with trending.
Speaker 6 (32:15):
We know where's the sake?
Speaker 9 (32:16):
Oh my goodness, what not?
Speaker 6 (32:18):
Fendly gosh, go ahead, Arnie.
Speaker 10 (32:22):
I just can't believe you're a basketball player. I didn't
think you were aerodynamic to have the athleticism to make
it on the court.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
My team lost without me today. That shows you what
happens when I'm not there.
Speaker 6 (32:32):
They lose. Yeah.
Speaker 10 (32:33):
Yeah, for sure. It's a it's a cool video game
league that you're part of. Yeah.
Speaker 9 (32:38):
By the way, we just heard the daddy drop.
Speaker 10 (32:40):
Actually, Philip Rivers is a daddy and he's going to
be a daddy for a tenth time.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
About that, include himself. He's got a full offense. He
does or for basketball purposes, you got five on five
with a referee.
Speaker 10 (32:55):
Let's go and those eleven, Arnie, if they took on
the University of Eras, they would beat the Wildcats. Yeah. Sure,
words have never been spoken. By the way, Northwestern Mike
and and aren't you guys were talking about this. The
new development here is that their defensive coordinator David Brawn,
who just joined the team at the beginning of this year,
(33:17):
and he is going to become the interim head football
coach for the upcoming season after the now former head
coach Pat Fitzgerald was fired for those hazing allegations in
Northwestern also taking a peek at some potential misconduct revolving
their revolving or yeah around their baseball team, with their
head coach Jim Foster getting the pink slip. He's accused
(33:37):
of bowling and creating a toxic environment within the team's operations.
Quinn Williams earning a lavish contract extension. The terms of
the deal four years, ninety six million dollars, with sixty
six million dollars of that guaranteed. At a Wimbledon marquet,
Devanrosova is onto the final where she will take on
(33:59):
the sixty as Jibber from Tunisia. The Dodgers are inking
free agent outfielder Jake Marisnik and as the second half
of the season gets underway tomorrow after this elongated All
Star break and lastly PGA Tour is in Scotland. Round
one of the Scottish opened is complete. And at nine
(34:19):
under is year leader Young Hung. He's got a two
shot lead, and Rory McElroy is three shots off the pace.
He is tied for third. Would love to get Mike
Harmon and Arnie Spanierd out there on the golf course,
although I'm pretty sure Mike would beat Arnie by whatts?
Speaker 3 (34:37):
What do you think, Mike, I don't know. I've got
a shoulder issue. I don't know how much extension I
get my followed through. I'm gonna look somewhere between Mike
Ditka and Charles Barkley, go look up their swings and
see what a marriage of those two would be.
Speaker 10 (34:51):
What Arnie does is he takes the golf ball and
just throws it. That's all he does, right Arnie is.
Speaker 6 (34:56):
Normally give it a kick sometimes nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
Thanks friendly at Brian Fenley where you find him all
of his latest His podcast is a golf and tennis coverage,
no question about it. Give him some love there. We've
got Patrick in for Justin Frossberg tonight, and of course
our guy DJ Alex Tyshert on the ones into all
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(35:23):
where you find him, show him some love there across
all socials. He's got a booming world of video reviews.
Later on, we're gonna do a top five list in
terms of sports. Something you sent over, Arnie one of
the last of the many texts of the day where
my phone was smoking and I said, I kind of
like this one. Let's run with that. But coming up next,
(35:45):
you know, it's Friday, but it's also there are a
couple of burger stories in the news, and well, since
we like to eat here on the program, we'll talk
about that. And Arnie the paparazzo, he's got something going on,
a huge production in his area and he wants to
tell you all about it because he's trying to get
some work in the acting field. We'll talk about that
(36:07):
next here on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
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Speaker 3 (36:22):
Welcome back in Fox Sports Radio Live Fromthetirac dot Com studios,
Harmon and Spaniard with you. There is no Jason Smith
to night, which in him and his family well as
they roll on. Now I've got to bring up you.
You sent me the picture live. I don't know if
(36:42):
it was one you shot or one you you clip
from somebody else. But I'm very excited that Beatlejuice, Yes,
part two is being filmed. A lot of the principles return,
some some new characters involved. You've got Jenna or Tega
joining the frame for those that know her from Wednesday
and from some of her other work.
Speaker 7 (37:04):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
You got Michael Keat in his back.
Speaker 6 (37:06):
Michael.
Speaker 4 (37:07):
I love Michael Keaton. I I think he's a good guy.
I played basketball with him once. Did you really, yeah,
Los Angeles, He's a he's a good guy. We owed
our riders out here from what I saw, I think Catherine.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
O'Hara, Catherine O'Hara, so I did we.
Speaker 6 (37:21):
Really need a Beetle Juice too?
Speaker 3 (37:23):
Though?
Speaker 6 (37:23):
Bike is well?
Speaker 3 (37:25):
But I mean that's the thing. It is a it
is a classic. Uh, and it's been rediscoing. Oh yeah,
Beetlejuice a fantastic movie. And then and then and then
here's the thing, though, Arnie, it got another life because
you had a guy named Alex Brightman played Beetlejuice on Broadway,
huge hit and then COVID and all that stuff. Uh,
(37:46):
you know, you have your issues, but it's they've now
got the touring companies and they're selling out every night
and every night place they go. So it's it's a
property that's gotten some steam and over time. You know,
when you talk merchandise whatever else, it's it's done really
really well. So you know, like everything else, it's where
can we extract some more blood from a property that
(38:09):
people like and will likely either get out to a
theater or spend more money on merch or we can
sell to a streamer later on.
Speaker 4 (38:18):
They're all over this town in Vermont. It's about forty
five minutes from my house. I was gonna go down there.
Why haven't you and see if I get like an
extra part or something in there. I don't know if
I I don't know if there's a part for me.
Do they need bald, old white guys on the show?
Speaker 3 (38:34):
And even if you just walk through a scene, I mean.
Speaker 6 (38:37):
I need a speaking part though, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (38:39):
Well, of course, Beetle Juice say, are you a Laker
fan combining all the Spaniard grates right there? Or you
asking for the odds?
Speaker 6 (38:52):
Yeah, they have pictures.
Speaker 4 (38:53):
They put up a bridge up there, one of the
you know bridges, and they built the house you know
of it. So they're they're they're having a good time.
A lot of the locals are enjoying it. They said,
everybody's been real nice. And so I don't know if
they have to stop production because of the strike that's.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
Going on, but now I would assume they would, right
all of the the big premiers we were just talking
about a little the guys here, uh, you know, all
these premieres across the I know Disney had a big
one planned at the theme park for Haunted Mansion, and
all the actors can't participate. They have to on the
fly change how they're going to run that program and
(39:31):
what they're gonna do for the fans that have been
invited to come out and costume and whatever else. And
I'm sure they'll shift the plan b pretty pretty quickly.
But they had an Oppenheimer premiere where literally everybody got
up from the cast and had you know, yeah, and
Christopher Nolan just made the announcement. But I didn't know
you were such a big beetlejuice fan, talk about I
celebrate the entire catalog of Michael Keaton.
Speaker 6 (39:54):
He is good.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
I mean the nineteen eighty nine classic Batman. And we'll
talk Burger's next hour because night Shift, What about Night?
Night Shift is one of the greatest movies all the time.
Henry Winkler nominated for another Emmy Award Spoon Nicest Guy
in Hollywood, the guy. We're gonna try to getim. Yeah,
we're gonna try one time. You did.
Speaker 6 (40:15):
I'll have to tell the story later on.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
You buried the lead. Yeah, because we need to talk
about burgers in a little bit. You talked about the
tuna fish. But there are a couple of burger stories
in the news as well that we need to get to,
uh international burger news. As we go, He's already spanned
out by Carman coming out next. Who do you Hate? Yeah,
there's a list
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so we rang the batphone and already span your answered
once again at Stinking Genius one and once again with Dan.
(00:50):
About eight minutes, I get a leg pad. I get
ninety seven texts.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
Why do you get so mad at me because I
give you a bunch of topics?
Speaker 5 (00:58):
I don't know why that bothers you to don't do
something else with your life. I've got the thing covered.
I don't live, man, I get the bat call. What
do you think I'm just gonna sit around and do nothing.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
I'm gonna get up out of bed and I'm gonna
start working on this show.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Well, but I get a bing bing bang. My kids
are looking at me like, what's going on. I'm like,
it's harny.
Speaker 6 (01:21):
It's called work.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
No no, no, no, no, no no. See that could go
into one email. I mean, I appreciate the effort as
opposed to a bunch of no shows that I get
sometimes coody. But I was like, my god, I'm glad
I don't pay per text.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
But by the way, I just want to say real
quick before we get going. He shout out to my
I didn't get to play basketball tonight because I was
doing the show.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
My tea. Wow, look at you.
Speaker 7 (01:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
My team wallster a third in a row because they're
very soft. These guys, they're way I'm the enforcer on
the team.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
You're the enforcer. Are you also the heart and soul?
I mean, are you the guy giving the sideline speeches?
Speaker 4 (01:54):
What do I alwayst I I will foul the other team.
Speaker 6 (01:57):
I'll hit somebody.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
My guys are like Matador defense, olay, just there, shoot
a layup.
Speaker 6 (02:03):
They they're not.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Everybody's so nice on the team. They just walk around.
They don't they don't don't found, they don't hit knock
somebody to the ground for crying out loud.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Is just going back to our conversation about Wembin Yama
saying how much more physical European basketball can't.
Speaker 6 (02:20):
Let's be physical a little bit.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
For crying out loud, like you haven't met already, Spaniard,
He'll put you in your place.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
That goes to show you how much I like you.
That I missed my basketball.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Game, I appreciate you. No, no, no, I appreciate the love.
Speaker 6 (02:31):
I could have made it.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
The game would have been over forty five minutes before airtime,
but I didn't want to push it. You know what
it is in case I got another topic. And how
many topics I send you I have?
Speaker 3 (02:45):
I had twenty of my own, and then you sent
me a legal pad to legal pad pages worth of
fun and excitement and all your outlines.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
I hope you have National French Fri Days somewhere on
your Listrip's a lot of stuff.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Well, you know what, that's the thing. I was trying
to respond to you and the the legal pad. I
had other things I was trying to get done today.
Speaker 6 (03:08):
I don't know you really have to, but you should
have been a doctor.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
That's how you write, well, you know what, that might
be my next career as we flow through. Well, you know,
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Speaker 6 (03:33):
Oh yes, hopefully at.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
The participating restaurants. There are a couple of national chains.
We'll just leave it at that as well as I'm
sure some locals getting involved. Hopefully they're ready to manage
that a lot better than the it was seven to
eleven day the other day. Wow, and it was so
so free slurpies. You want to talk about a train wreck?
Speaker 6 (03:55):
That crazy?
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Well, but like parents handing their four year olds a
cup to go get themselves a slurpee, that's just a
terrible idea, a terrible administration by the stores. You know what,
don't employ the guy to keep you running the mop
because these little dopes are running and letting these things
flow all over the place. How about you employ them
to fill the cups and hand. What what flavor would
(04:16):
you like? You like the orchata, you like the coke,
you like the blue raspberry? What do you need and
you fill it yourself?
Speaker 6 (04:22):
Yeah? Why do you know all the flavors?
Speaker 3 (04:24):
I'm just curious because I wanted my free slippy until
I saw that it had become a uh well, it
was a wreck. I'm gonna say, I'm gonna gonna put
it nicely. I'm just saying the guy on mop duty,
I don't know that he paused for the entire day,
So hopefully your Friday a little bit better.
Speaker 6 (04:40):
By the way, I'm more of an onion ring guy,
but that's okay.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
You know, well, because because you know what the onion
ring does and this and this is your fast food
and casual dining and and sometimes you know, your pub
grub kind of thing. Thing of record is the onion
ring is gonna be cooked for fresh for you because
they're not going through the same level of like the
fries may sit right, because they just keep those cooked
because they know more people are gonna order fries the
(05:06):
undion ring. No, no, no, that's an Arnie Span your special.
That's a Mike harmon special. That's the kind of thing
that they have to go to the friar and they've
got to make it special for me.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
But by the way, with does those RB triangles counted
French fries or that that's like a distant cousin down
the street.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Oh yeah, I think it's along that same idea. But
the question is no, no, there might be the second cousin,
might be the guy you know, second cousin through marriage.
All those things could happen. I don't know. Twice removed
all of those things that stick. And genius one is
where you find Arnie on Twitter. Find me over at
Swollen Dome. Now, I'd be remiss if we didn't start off.
(05:42):
We got Jason Cole, a longtime friend of the show,
of the network. Here, Arnie. You know Jason and I've
known Jason a long long time. He's gonna come up.
In about fifteen minutes. We're gonna talk a little bit
about the potential hiccups of the sale of the Commanders,
something we talked a little bit with Steve Hartman about
last night, as related to the John Gruden emails and everything.
(06:03):
But I remember, if I didn't start with the latest
in the Northwestern saga because that's what we call it
saga at this point as they fire their baseball coach,
Jim Foster. Uh subject to a lengthy HR review, violating
university policy, abusive behavior, more in the hazing and comments
(06:26):
and treatment of athletes related to their rest and recovery
and rehabilitation efforts and all of that and again more more.
Speaker 6 (06:36):
Just nothing to do with the football thing though, right, No.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
No, they're completely independent.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
But when I first saw that, I'm like, oh my goodness,
this is like a whole university world, throughout the whole university.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
No, and that and that's that's where we're heading to,
is uh. The report as as it was laid out
Danny parkins uh the prepared copy UH from the Northwestern
the he has created a top it's environment run off coaches,
broken the spear of his team to the point where
they would likely not be able to feel the full roster.
This year, subject of an HR investigation that found him
(07:09):
to have violated university policy by engaging in bullying and
abusive behavior, inappropriate comments to about a female staffer, speaking
negatively about his staff to other staff members, all of
these things thing some comments that were racially insensitive and
then discouraging seeking medical attention, you know, the rub some
dirt on it, shaking off right, and all of those
(07:31):
kind of things.
Speaker 6 (07:32):
So it's very dangerous.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
So that was a reporting from Danny Parkins of the
Score there in Chicago, and Foster immediately came back with
the it was a quote hit piece, and well they
found what they needed. Brian Anderson, former first round pick
of the White Sox. He will take over the program
(07:54):
here on the same day that it was announced that
defensive coordinator David Brawn who came in in January after
they dismissed the last coordinator and they've had, you know,
some long time assistants had retired and had they'd made
some moves and so Braun came in after the initial
hazing and all those disturbing details were were reported, soving
(08:21):
so he yeah, so he was not included in any
you know, other repercussions or potential to I have been
violating any of the code of conduct and and everything
that came out in that report. So coming over from
North Dakota State, he was the FCS Coordinator of the
Year in twenty twenty one, so he'll now be the guy.
(08:42):
But once again when it came to dismissing the baseball coach,
and I tie these together because I want to reiterate
the point I made yesterday that the athletic director needs
to go.
Speaker 6 (08:53):
Oh absolutely, they.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Fired him and then addressed the team via zoom, once again,
not an in person. Let's talk about this, Let's be
on the scene, and let's listen to your concerns, let's
listen to your questions, all of those things. It was
another example of Hey, we've got the technology and we
can immediately turn off our camera, so let's do this.
(09:17):
So once again a spineless effort from the administration here
at Northwestern. But what you've seen over the course of
a week, and that's really all it's been, is just
a place that seems devoid of structure that or I
should say, the structure that was in place was clearly
(09:40):
rotting from the inside. And that doesn't mean that you
didn't have players that were on board with a lot
of the coaching points from both the baseball side and
from the football side. But we get the details and
if any of them are true, let alone all of them,
it's unacceptable, and it was unacceptable thirty years ago. But
(10:02):
most kinda said, all right, that's the price of admission
for a program. So we move forward, and even in
twenty twenty two, twenty three, I'm sure you know they're
to varying degrees at high schools and colleges across the country.
There are things that you'd probably raise an eyebrow to,
you know, the right of passage, the initiation. We've seen
(10:22):
so many reports of things that fraternities and sororities through
the years, and you know, shut down of those systems
in a lot of schools, or new rules and regulation
coming in of oversight, and that's certainly one of the
things that plays out here in Northwestern. They've always had
for football season, the camp in Kenosha that's been canceled,
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an independent person in the locker room that isn't on staff, right,
all of these things have to come in to make
sure that you're actually abiding by the new rules of
engagement and eradicating any of the behavior years and attitudes
that resulted in what happened this weekend.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
Mike, this is absolutely atrocious. Absolutely not only that it
can go under the athletic director right under his nose
and everything else, how many people had to keep this
quiet between coaches and players and administrators. I mean, the
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whole thing is just miserable. And who thinks that for
one second that this is right.
Speaker 6 (11:32):
I mean, who thinks of this.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
In twenty twenty three, Not that it was right earlier, Mike,
but I mean at this time, you have nothing better
to do than go ahead and make it tough on
kids and harass them. And I mean all kinds of
stuff that's going on. I'll tell you about the football
program and the baseball program. I mean, I don't know
how bad this is going to set Northwestern back because
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a lot of deep people go to schools that actually
have you know, pretty good athletic the departments.
Speaker 6 (12:01):
This is just horrible in every which.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
Way, and you just again wonder how many people have
to keep this quiet well.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
And that's the larger thing, Arnie, is that the structure
was in place and behaviors that were documented. Some of
its just again, I don't understand how any of it
fosters the camaraderie, teamwork and all that building of you know, whatever,
the toughness that you're looking to do. Like I remember
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the drill we had when I was a kid. It
was the bull in the ring and it was administered
terribly and I could do hours on the way the
volunteer coach. These weren't people that were paid. They they
were parents and they did a terrible job. And they
were abusive because they brought all their stuff from home
and work out onto the practice field and just beat
up on us. But it was the kind of thing.
(12:54):
Plenty of details in my forthcoming book, The Magical Me. Yes,
I'm stealing it from Kenneth Brannig and the the Harry
Potter Universe. But no, just the idea that you have
this type of structure that go in. But bull in
the ring was all right, you're there, you've got the
football and you get hit. It had derogatory and pejorative
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terms sometimes the other things you would call it. But
the idea was you wanted to keep the football and
people ran at you and tried to hit you, and
you knocked them out of the ring, knock them down whatever.
As long as you held onto the football, you were
still in charge. Right if you tackled the guy with
the ball, Now you got the ball, and how long
could you stay in? Was it wrong? Because of all
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the hits and the you know, get up and take
another blow kind of thing and all that. Yeah, but
there was at least there you could say, all right,
we're building towards taking hits, absorbing hits, learning to get
back up. Whatever the rest of these details. I'm looking
and I'm shrugging my shoulders, going, how does any of
this not come off a as creepy, b as criminal?
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See is like just completely unnecessary.
Speaker 6 (14:03):
If we have like a Bobby Knight in his prime, now, he.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
Wouldn't last he would last a season before he would
lose his job.
Speaker 6 (14:11):
Well that's not those ways those days were all.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
But you know what's interesting, though, Arnie, is is you
bring up Bobby Knight and that type of environment and
what we know of and what programs have had and
and look some comparisons to other situations. I don't know
that they're necessarily you know, apples to apples, but you
know you make them as you will because it's all
part of a long standing problem, right, You build feeftoms,
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and people get comfortable, people get power, and if you're successful,
nobody's really looking behind door number two to see how
the sausage is made right right, and and if everybody's
buying in and nobody's raising their hand going hey, this
is wrong to the point where you know, you you
raise really alarms and get the media involved or whatever else,
then then it'll continue to go on. But the the
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idea that you have, I have a number of coaches
who've more or less said well, I'm done with this
over NIL and the changing face. And Fitzgerald was one
of those guys. Remember when Northwestern players wanted to unionize,
he was one of the most outspoken, in vocal coaches
against it. So all of this, you know, kind of
festers to where we are here in twenty twenty three,
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where you have players with more equity and say in matters,
and you've had coaches that have decided they don't like
the new rules of engagement. And this is another piece
to it that nobody's ever gonna discuss. Yeah, we can't
do what we did to the players back then, but it's.
Speaker 6 (15:36):
There is college sports.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
I'm not even gonna say college football, but you could
say what college football, college basketball, college baseball, or you
want to throw it all together. Is it more toxic
now with the NIL and the instant transfer rules than
it was back then?
Speaker 6 (15:51):
Or was it still more toxic back then.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Well, I think you as a coach got you got
a longer, longer run right now?
Speaker 6 (16:03):
Oh for sure.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Now we guys, you know, a couple of losing, because
that's the other thing with Fitzgerald is they weren't winning.
There's no path to getting great again. And next year
you add two more teams, you got rid of the divisions.
All of that adds up to a not only do
you have all this on your watch, maybe the magic
is gone from being able to perform at a dominant level.
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So it's an opportune time also to reset the program
regardless of this outcome and what's going on, and that'll
go into a lawsuit, there's no question. We'll talk about
this a little bit more as we go on, but
we've got Jason Cole coming up. We'll put a pin
in this. Continue this conversation a little later on in
the show. Alreadie Span. You're in for j Jason Smith tonight,
(16:47):
ad how about a fresca if you want to ask
him how he's doing and how many times he went
and found himself some free fries, because certainly that was
on the menu, no doubt about it. But Jay Skull's
gonna come up talking all things NFL. Here we continue
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brand of grab ass and his introduction of cowboy bees
to the population as a whole. He's working to get
all cowboys out of the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
(18:22):
It's our guy. He is a Hall of Fame voter,
longtime scribe. Read his stuff over and OutKick. He's the
author of eight books. You can get those on Amazon
at Jason Cole sixty two is where you find him.
It's our buddy, the man, the legend, the myth. It
is Jason Cole.
Speaker 7 (18:37):
Hey, buddy, So we're describing this as grab ass and
not professional radio. No no, no, no, no, no at its
highest level.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
No no, the two cannot be. Are not mutually exclusive.
Speaker 7 (18:52):
This is extremely erudite, that's right.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
No, no, no, I mean we usually get a minute or
two in there. But I am I brow discussion.
Speaker 7 (19:01):
I make this up as I go along, and is
nothing but.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
Brilliant so eyebrow discourse right here, exactly, no question about it,
all right. Washington commanders report out of the Washington Post
today that these legal ees uh legal channels and trying
to get that indemnification that might delay the sale of this.
Is this something that's going to drag out, or does
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someone finally just put their foot down and be done
with it.
Speaker 7 (19:29):
Oh, they'll they'll do some type of indemnification that is
better than the indemnification that was done on the rams
moving from Saint Louis to Los Angeles. That was the
quote unquote indemnification that Kronky signed and then two years
later said, I'm really not responsible for any of the
(19:49):
legal costs here. You guys have to pay. They'll try,
they'll try and figure something out. I mean, here's the
other thing I think about this with the Gruden potential lawsuit,
and I'm not even gonna qualify it. What is Gruden?
What is his stance that I decided to send messages
(20:15):
from my workplace email to somebody else's workplace email with
all sorts of for you know, discussing comments that eventually
got me fired, but somebody else is responsible for the
fact that it leaked out. I don't think he has
much of a case. I mean, he might make a
few million dollars, right, but he's not gonna like, he's
(20:39):
not going to like destroy the league, burn the League
down all that kind of stuff that he's talking about, Like,
that's not happening here. The best he's gonna he's gonna
get arbitration. It's like there's is much ado about nothing.
Speaker 6 (20:51):
What why is it? Why doesn't he have information? Why
he knows where the bodies are buried?
Speaker 4 (20:56):
He could He could probably hurt a lot of owners
if he wanted to.
Speaker 7 (20:59):
Jason, I don't think Gruden can't, but you know, but
Snyder can. But Snyder's already out and he's got his
price of the six billion. He knows his partners don't
want him. He also knows there's a problem with Snyder.
He can't stay because he knows he can't get a stadium,
because he knows everybody in Washington, DC hates him. So
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if you're trapped in the fact that you can't get
out from underneath that crumbling, awful place that he's in
right now, then you know you're backed into a corner.
And he's not going to get anybody in politics to
help him out. They just want him gone and he'll
take his money. He'll be happy and and you know,
salute to Roger Goodell who managed to help help Dan
(21:42):
Snyder turn his one billion dollar investment and two plus
decades of being the worst owner in football into a
six a five billion dollar increase in value, right, like,
how do you do that? Like that? That's an amazing thing.
But after Gruden, right, he may know if you secrets
here in there, it's nothing that the NFL hasn't dealt
(22:05):
with before. I mean, look at my favorite owner himself,
Jerry Jones. I mean, the guy has a you know,
is a soap opera and it comes out every off season,
right like of something he's done. He's still there and
he's still making a lot of money. He's not going anywhere.
So I mean again, Green has got a really bad
case in my view that you know, might make him
(22:27):
a few million bucks, but he's not really going to
do any damage to anybody.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Well, now you got Jerry Jones tied to Clarence Thomas,
giving him a Super Bowl ring and everything else.
Speaker 7 (22:38):
I think it's more is that more of a Clarence
Thomas Probably, Like the more and more we see a
read about like Supreme Court justices and particularly Clarence Thomas,
like like did they just have their handout?
Speaker 3 (22:49):
No, it would seem to be the case. I people
wanted to excoriate Jerry Jones on this, and like, I
don't know, he just handed.
Speaker 7 (22:58):
The other office, right, it's the dude who's not supposed
to be taking it who's the problem, not Jerry. It's like,
there's no crime in offering. There's a crime in taking
that's the problem. So, you know, I salute Jerry for
trying to bend the rules as much as he can,
you know, But yeah, like Clarence Thomas, I mean, yeah,
(23:22):
and he's not alone, but he's certainly at the far
end of the spectrum of taking of taking stuff, There's
no question about it.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
By the way, what happens if this sale doesn't go through,
then then what happens.
Speaker 7 (23:32):
It's the sales going to go through. Because again, as
much as as much as Snyder may try to play
hardball right now, everybody's going to look at him and say, Dan,
what's your end game? Your endgame is you can try
and continue to own the team, and you're going to
(23:52):
go nowhere and you're and you also have a bunch
of your partners who don't like you, and they don't
want to be in business with you anymore, and frankly,
they don't trust you. Right, So how long do you
want to continue on, you know, in this battle, especially
when you're I mean, yeah, the value of the team
(24:12):
is probably going to go up a little bit, but
it's not going to go up substantially until there's a
stadium deal. And you can't get a stadium deal done,
So he really doesn't have the leverage that people want
to believe other than he still owns the team, and
that's adequate leverage, you know. I mean, somebody has to pay.
But he's already played out his hand as far as
(24:33):
he can go.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Jason Goal with us here at the Jason Smith Show
with Mike Arman, Fox Sports Radio. Jason out tonight, Arnie
span your the stinking.
Speaker 7 (24:41):
By the way where you know, what is he like
stalking Aaron Rodgers and Malibu or something like that?
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Well, I mean he's getting ready for hard.
Speaker 7 (24:50):
He's just driving up and down Highway One going Rogers.
You know, like, is that what he's doing?
Speaker 3 (24:56):
Well, without giving too much away, he's having some success
with the daughter's softball squad because he is.
Speaker 7 (25:04):
Muzzle.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
So we we knock whatever this desk is made of.
He'll be back with this.
Speaker 7 (25:11):
We're still going to mock him.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
Relentlessly, There's no question about it. I mean, look, National
French Fried Day. I texted him how many tricks?
Speaker 7 (25:19):
Yeah, it's like did he go to Tommy's today for
the chili cheese fries?
Speaker 3 (25:24):
I love that. I mean, not not to mention, just
in general. I mean after the Jets were officially announced
as the Hard Knocks participants, I mean, how excited is
he is?
Speaker 7 (25:34):
This? This is delicious? Isn't it fantastic? As watching watching
Robert Salago? Aaron? What do you want to do?
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Aaron?
Speaker 7 (25:44):
What are we doing today for practice?
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Hey?
Speaker 7 (25:46):
Aaron? Do you like this play?
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Aaron?
Speaker 7 (25:49):
What do you think of our defense? How is it
is that that that's what we're going to be watching
for like six episodes or something.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
I think Aaron Rodgers is the type of guy though,
that would really go over the top and yelling at
people just so people can write the worst of him
and then just come out and it's like, oh, actually
we're best friends, We're all buddies. It's all all a
giant work.
Speaker 7 (26:11):
Yeah, what was it Jack Benny? And who was who isoil?
Speaker 3 (26:15):
That's right?
Speaker 7 (26:16):
Who is Jack Benny's spoil? I'm trying to remember with it,
but yeah, like those two going out. I mean, god,
I just stated.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Mylf before Frank Nelson.
Speaker 7 (26:25):
Yeah, that was not Arnie. Don't lie. That's not before
your time. Arnie. Come on, Okay, if I said if
I said murder, she wrote, you go, yeah, I was
watching that with my kids.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
Well, I mean, if nothing else, you remember how Pat
summer All used to say it and teases that it
was later on.
Speaker 7 (26:44):
In the evening after the game Murder, she wrote.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
But he always had that pregnant pause. On a new Murder,
she wrote, she.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
Wrote, Hey, Jayson, I got I wanted to ask you.
But you're a Hall of Fame voter for the NFL.
I'm curious, Well, would you have been voting if you
had to vote on Bonds?
Speaker 7 (27:04):
Okay, Barry Bonds?
Speaker 4 (27:06):
Yeah you say no, so you're not voting strictly on
statue you do you're making it personal?
Speaker 7 (27:13):
Then, well no, it's not personal. Woman. The guy made
the guy made a joke of the game, like, you know,
like he changed his career. Look, Barry Bonds would have
made the Hall of Fame without stare rights. He decided
to make it turn it into a joke. And he's
not alone. I mean McGuire's there, Clement's is there, samuy
Chos is.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
There, all the owners, all the coaches and everybody else.
They're a commissioner.
Speaker 6 (27:38):
Yeah, but go ahead.
Speaker 7 (27:41):
But but the thing about is Barry, like Barry did
everything in the world to pay people off and you know,
and get around the rules. And yes, technically sort of
it's not against the rules, but you know, like this
is an ethical problem, right, spirit, right, right, And and look,
(28:02):
I'm not trying to pretend to here that there aren't
ethical issues in the NFL, especially with guys who take steroids. Right,
it hasn't you know. I mean, but while Alzado is
not in the Hall of Fame, it is not headed
to the Hall of Fame, and some of those other
guys are not making either. But but yeah, there have
been guys who cheated in the NFL. They just didn't
do it in such an over the top fashion to
(28:26):
kind of kind of make make a mockery of the game.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
And that Tom Brady with the deflated flot how dare
you one of the dumbest things I've ever seen that.
Speaker 7 (28:38):
Yeah, it's I mean, look, that's that's a one time
thing that he got away and maybe he did it
four or five times, okay. But changing the pressure of
a football, okay, it's a lot different than injecting or
taking bills or rubbing the clear and the cream on
you to increase your your muscle mass so that you
(28:59):
can become a completely different human being standing at the
plate where any strike that you get you're gonna hit
seven thousand feet. I mean, he just completely changed who
he was. And again, it wasn't really necessary. You know,
it was necessary for him to set that home run record.
It was not necessary for him to get into the
Hall of Fame because he was a great enough player
(29:20):
to get there.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
The next PSI report I see from the NFL be
the first. Let me ask whatever, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 7 (29:28):
That's a tired and really dumb one too. I mean
that's the same thing as like I'm going to erase
the back line in the batter's box so I can
get extra nine inches out of the batters.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
Let me ask you one last one real quick, jacoble
all the running disgruddled running backs Jacobs and Saquon Barkley.
Barkley reportedly turned down nineteen million guaranteed, and everybody's like, well,
you get the second second franchise tag next Year's like, yeah,
he's got to get through this season healthy. Correct, So
saying it wrong is like, what are we doing?
Speaker 7 (30:05):
Look, they should guarantee the first two years the total minimum, right, Like,
so that'd be that get him plus to twenty five
guaranteed and that's minimum because you're going to get that
money pretty much anyways. Right And if you're if you're
the team, you're saying, Okay, we franchise tag game and
we play them on the one year deal. How hard
(30:26):
is he really going to play for us? How much
effort is he going to put in? So why not
just guarantee? Like I would write him a you know,
he's so vital to what they do. Give him thirty
million dollars guaranteed. Make it a short three or four
year deal. You know, he's a running back. He's probably
not going to play through it. And if you if
you get to a second, you know, a third contract, okay,
(30:46):
then you've had you have a hell of a player.
But they know better than this. They're just being you know,
stupid cheap on it. And I don't I don't really
understand why. I mean, this is not this is not
that hard from a math perspective to figure out.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
He's Jason Cole with us here as he is every week.
Read him on OutKick Go buy cowboy Bees for everybody.
The marketing and that will begin in earnest here.
Speaker 7 (31:13):
It's about to start, is there. They're headed back to
the right.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
Yeah, I do. I do have my daughter designing a
logo for future cowboy Bees references. So we've got that
going at. Jason Cole. Sixty two is where you find him.
Jake Cole, thanks for stopping down with us. As always,
I appreciate you stop. Buy first sandwich at some point.
That's our guy, Jason Cole. We you know, we pay
him in sandwiches for his appearances. We're a little bit
(31:41):
behind because we haven't been able to sync up schedules.
Well no, no, no, look, we want to do it
in person. We want to commiserate, have a meal and
and and have a discussion together. You know, I mean
you can't just send random sandwiches in the mail. I
mean you can almost have been inclined to try that
once to see how it works. He's Arnie Spanner in
for Jason Smith. I'm Mike Carmen. As we come to
(32:02):
you from the tirech dot Com, Fox Sports Radio Studios. Uh,
it's fairly quiet night in the sporting universe. That doesn't
mean that this guy will be It's Brian Fenley with trending.
Speaker 6 (32:15):
We know where's the sake?
Speaker 9 (32:16):
Oh my goodness, what not?
Speaker 6 (32:18):
Fendly gosh, go ahead, Arnie.
Speaker 10 (32:22):
I just can't believe you're a basketball player. I didn't
think you were aerodynamic to have the athleticism to make
it on the court.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
My team lost without me today. That shows you what
happens when I'm not there.
Speaker 6 (32:32):
They lose. Yeah.
Speaker 10 (32:33):
Yeah, for sure. It's a it's a cool video game
league that you're part of. Yeah.
Speaker 9 (32:38):
By the way, we just heard the daddy drop.
Speaker 10 (32:40):
Actually, Philip Rivers is a daddy and he's going to
be a daddy for a tenth time.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
About that, include himself. He's got a full offense. He
does or for basketball purposes, you got five on five
with a referee.
Speaker 10 (32:55):
Let's go and those eleven, Arnie, if they took on
the University of Eras, they would beat the Wildcats. Yeah. Sure,
words have never been spoken. By the way, Northwestern Mike
and and aren't you guys were talking about this. The
new development here is that their defensive coordinator David Brawn,
who just joined the team at the beginning of this year,
(33:17):
and he is going to become the interim head football
coach for the upcoming season after the now former head
coach Pat Fitzgerald was fired for those hazing allegations in
Northwestern also taking a peek at some potential misconduct revolving
their revolving or yeah around their baseball team, with their
head coach Jim Foster getting the pink slip. He's accused
(33:37):
of bowling and creating a toxic environment within the team's operations.
Quinn Williams earning a lavish contract extension. The terms of
the deal four years, ninety six million dollars, with sixty
six million dollars of that guaranteed. At a Wimbledon marquet,
Devanrosova is onto the final where she will take on
(33:59):
the sixty as Jibber from Tunisia. The Dodgers are inking
free agent outfielder Jake Marisnik and as the second half
of the season gets underway tomorrow after this elongated All
Star break and lastly PGA Tour is in Scotland. Round
one of the Scottish opened is complete. And at nine
(34:19):
under is year leader Young Hung. He's got a two
shot lead, and Rory McElroy is three shots off the pace.
He is tied for third. Would love to get Mike
Harmon and Arnie Spanierd out there on the golf course,
although I'm pretty sure Mike would beat Arnie by whatts?
Speaker 3 (34:37):
What do you think, Mike, I don't know. I've got
a shoulder issue. I don't know how much extension I
get my followed through. I'm gonna look somewhere between Mike
Ditka and Charles Barkley, go look up their swings and
see what a marriage of those two would be.
Speaker 10 (34:51):
What Arnie does is he takes the golf ball and
just throws it. That's all he does, right Arnie is.
Speaker 6 (34:56):
Normally give it a kick sometimes nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
Thanks friendly at Brian Fenley where you find him all
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where you find him, show him some love there across
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Later on, we're gonna do a top five list in
terms of sports. Something you sent over, Arnie one of
the last of the many texts of the day where
my phone was smoking and I said, I kind of
like this one. Let's run with that. But coming up next,
(35:45):
you know, it's Friday, but it's also there are a
couple of burger stories in the news, and well, since
we like to eat here on the program, we'll talk
about that. And Arnie the paparazzo, he's got something going on,
a huge production in his area and he wants to
tell you all about it because he's trying to get
some work in the acting field. We'll talk about that
(36:07):
next here on Fox Sports Radio.
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Speaker 3 (36:22):
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to night, which in him and his family well as
they roll on. Now I've got to bring up you.
You sent me the picture live. I don't know if
(36:42):
it was one you shot or one you you clip
from somebody else. But I'm very excited that Beatlejuice, Yes,
part two is being filmed. A lot of the principles return,
some some new characters involved. You've got Jenna or Tega
joining the frame for those that know her from Wednesday
and from some of her other work.
Speaker 7 (37:04):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
You got Michael Keat in his back.
Speaker 6 (37:06):
Michael.
Speaker 4 (37:07):
I love Michael Keaton. I I think he's a good guy.
I played basketball with him once. Did you really, yeah,
Los Angeles, He's a he's a good guy. We owed
our riders out here from what I saw, I think Catherine.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
O'Hara, Catherine O'Hara, so I did we.
Speaker 6 (37:21):
Really need a Beetle Juice too?
Speaker 3 (37:23):
Though?
Speaker 6 (37:23):
Bike is well?
Speaker 3 (37:25):
But I mean that's the thing. It is a it
is a classic. Uh, and it's been rediscoing. Oh yeah,
Beetlejuice a fantastic movie. And then and then and then
here's the thing, though, Arnie, it got another life because
you had a guy named Alex Brightman played Beetlejuice on Broadway,
huge hit and then COVID and all that stuff. Uh,
(37:46):
you know, you have your issues, but it's they've now
got the touring companies and they're selling out every night
and every night place they go. So it's it's a
property that's gotten some steam and over time. You know,
when you talk merchandise whatever else, it's it's done really
really well. So you know, like everything else, it's where
can we extract some more blood from a property that
(38:09):
people like and will likely either get out to a
theater or spend more money on merch or we can
sell to a streamer later on.
Speaker 4 (38:18):
They're all over this town in Vermont. It's about forty
five minutes from my house. I was gonna go down there.
Why haven't you and see if I get like an
extra part or something in there. I don't know if
I I don't know if there's a part for me.
Do they need bald, old white guys on the show?
Speaker 3 (38:34):
And even if you just walk through a scene, I mean.
Speaker 6 (38:37):
I need a speaking part though, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (38:39):
Well, of course, Beetle Juice say, are you a Laker
fan combining all the Spaniard grates right there? Or you
asking for the odds?
Speaker 6 (38:52):
Yeah, they have pictures.
Speaker 4 (38:53):
They put up a bridge up there, one of the
you know bridges, and they built the house you know
of it. So they're they're they're having a good time.
A lot of the locals are enjoying it. They said,
everybody's been real nice. And so I don't know if
they have to stop production because of the strike that's.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
Going on, but now I would assume they would, right
all of the the big premiers we were just talking
about a little the guys here, uh, you know, all
these premieres across the I know Disney had a big
one planned at the theme park for Haunted Mansion, and
all the actors can't participate. They have to on the
fly change how they're going to run that program and
(39:31):
what they're gonna do for the fans that have been
invited to come out and costume and whatever else. And
I'm sure they'll shift the plan b pretty pretty quickly.
But they had an Oppenheimer premiere where literally everybody got
up from the cast and had you know, yeah, and
Christopher Nolan just made the announcement. But I didn't know
you were such a big beetlejuice fan, talk about I
celebrate the entire catalog of Michael Keaton.
Speaker 6 (39:54):
He is good.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
I mean the nineteen eighty nine classic Batman. And we'll
talk Burger's next hour because night Shift, What about Night?
Night Shift is one of the greatest movies all the time.
Henry Winkler nominated for another Emmy Award Spoon Nicest Guy
in Hollywood, the guy. We're gonna try to getim. Yeah,
we're gonna try one time. You did.
Speaker 6 (40:15):
I'll have to tell the story later on.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
You buried the lead. Yeah, because we need to talk
about burgers in a little bit. You talked about the
tuna fish. But there are a couple of burger stories
in the news as well that we need to get to,
uh international burger news. As we go, He's already spanned
out by Carman coming out next. Who do you Hate? Yeah,
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