July 19, 2023 • 42 mins
Jason Smith and Mike Harmon are officially on Shohei Ohtani trade watch. Veteran RBs across the NFL have been talking in a group chat together to discuss ways to improve their situations. Jason tells you why the 76ers should start sweating about their future. The guy's debate if Bill Belichick should be on the hot seat heading into the 2023 season. Plus, Longtime NFL Insider Jason Cole joins the guys for all the latest headlines.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
This is the best of The Jason Smith Show with
Mike Harmon on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Greetings and welcome inside. Happy Tuesday, The Jason Smith Show
with my bass friend Mike Harmon, Dress Cobo live from
the tire Rack dot Com studios where it's Mets White Sox.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
The battle for supremacy of the show begins. Does the
loser have to trade someone? Immediately after the final out?
Loser leaves town? But like legitimately you just a microphone
goes into the dugout and someone volunteers this.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Tribute to me rated Yeah. No, Well, looks the Hunger
Games listen. I I would I would say that that
would be a good way to end this game. It
is terrible. However, two terrible teams. It is awful. I mean,
look the Mets are winning eleven two. Now it's eleven nine.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
I didn't think these would be the stakes for Mets
White Sox this season when our teams played like we had,
we had hopes and dreams, and now we have that's
aupot of time. Yeah. I keep telling you, Hope, how
dangerous it is. I mean, come on, yeah, I had
hopes and dreams, and now I have the Jets. Jets, Jets, Jets, Jets, Jets, Jets.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Again, that's a lot of wish and wanting, hoping, and uh,
well let's see how that plays. We got plenty of
time to talk about that. But yeah, you're eleven two.
Lead is no more? Yeah, been a minute for you
and I back here.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
We haven't seen each other and I I've seen you
and it's like it's like one hundred and five degrees
out right now, and Harmon's wearing a sweatshirt almost like
you're going through it like a sweat cleander. That's it,
That's what it is. That what you're doing to those
sweats Are you really doing that? Are you wear like
a weighted vest under that sweatshirt? To wait it it's
just the neoprene. Oh my god, it is really you
are really doing that, dude, that could be dangerous for
(02:02):
you tonight. I'm not outside.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
I'm here in the sixty four degree Fox Worts radio
that you're doing. So it's just like wearing a sweatshirt.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
So I'm trying to get myself to just a both.
I mean, I can heat heat it up in here.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
A little bit. We're gonna keep the temperature down because
it's bleeping hot out man. So I don't know if
that's internally it'll help me a little bit? Is it
gonna help You're not gonna have the same effect. If
I sat out there, I'd fry like an egg, okay,
But in here it'll have a little bit because because
I am fat. When when you start get loopy later,
I mean, what do I do? I just cut it
off of you like they do in the TV, right,
I just cut it right off, straight ups, like we
(02:35):
got it. We gotta get it loose, all right, ty shirt?
You and I are gonna have to innovate if something
happens to harmon, Okay? Is that pc?
Speaker 4 (02:41):
Like?
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Can I innovate?
Speaker 4 (02:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:43):
No, you can't. Yeah that one of those like what
which pen are you gonna use?
Speaker 4 (02:46):
Though?
Speaker 1 (02:46):
It's gotta be something faint. Oh yeah, yeah, you a
pen Yeah, okay, because you gotta give me a trachy
out of me. Yeah, you're gonna jam it right down
in there.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Sure you can get the airway going if I have
if I'm struggling breathing, Yeah, like the highlighters and stuff
and the sharpies they won't work.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
We need something better than that. Yeah. So I have
done a backyonomy before. Is that okay? I don't know.
I think it's perform back surgery money. It'll be a
little bit different. It's gonna be the front side. We
got to cut harm and sweat to here. Let's cut
his sweasht off now, just to practice. I'm so down.
I just see where we're at. All right, you're good.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Should we start with the sleeves like you? I mean,
and where my Mets T shirt say, it's Mets white socks.
It's exciting, buddy, I mean it's not really which was
really exciting until they met that buzz saw. That was
the oras. Look, if we're gonna do conversations about nineteen
seventy eight with Rob Parker in the hallway, I can
bring up the eighty three white socks what do you.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Got Frostburg Well, in honor of the Dark Night's fifteenth anniversary, right, yes,
why don't we get a pencil? My fuck, the guys
are going pen really it's good, gonna make that pencil disappear?
Who wants to see me? Make we can try? Now
that happens, Like, would that help you at all? I like,
if you start, really, if if your head gets really sweaty,
(03:57):
can I make the pencil disappear? Would that help? Things?
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Might help?
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Man?
Speaker 1 (04:00):
It might be like Homer when they had the cranon
and oh yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
It's fun really kind of disturbing. If you start running
the joker lines from from Dark Knight while you're watching
Ten Things I Hate About You, it really becomes a
much different movie.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Who wants to see me? Give Mike Harmon a cranyotomy
boom And then suddenly, all of a sudden, maybe you
will be cut walls. All of a sudden you will know.
You'll be like Matt Damon and Goodwill Honey, You'll just
know everything and start writing. You'll be cutting your finger
and blood to write equations on the wall. Here. I
just have to get it out of torture genius. Not
I gotta write it out. I gotta write it out.
I can't help it.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
I pricked my finger. I'm like or I just grabbing
the blood from my head and writing I did that.
But also think about the Joker on the stand singing
love you baby.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Yeah, my ship ears for the Dark Knight crazy? Who
wants to see me make this funny? The Jason Smith
Show with my best friend Mike Carmen, Live from the
tire rack dot Com Studios. Yes, Matt's white Sox. What
passes for a big game? Well, it's big for us
tonight because it's bragging rights and it's pile drivers and
all kinds of stuff and cranyotomies and all all kinds stuff. Well,
the Dodgers Orioles was supposed to be a good game.
(05:09):
It was, but you know, the Orioles are kind of
hurting me here a little bit with my big, you know,
second a half bold prediction they were gonna win the
Al East.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Well, but this is not This is not the series.
You want to predict it after this series, Yeah, it
really is. After the Dodgers leaves it out, you can
move forward.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
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two weeks are going to be dominated by absolutely one
storyline in all of sports. But we have a lot
(05:49):
of upset running backs. Mike Harmon, they are, they're still salty.
Now they're forming are now they're uniting in group textas
in the format, Hey, no one's getting paid. We gotta
do something about That's where you get stuff done is
in the group text. Are you mad about your contract? Yes?
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Hey, and here's a flaming dumpster emoji to let you.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Know all about it. Hey, do me a favorite? Can
you loop Dalvin cook In on this? How do I
do that? I don't know how. You just got to
go go to where they hit the eye for information,
hit the add a person add Dalvin.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
No, we can't add him because if he signs a deal,
we're gonna have to remove him.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
And that's a lot harder. It was yesterday that we
found out Saquon Barkley, Josh Jacobs, Tony Pollard, three of
the best running backs in the NFL all get franchise tag.
They could not come to terms on a new deal
with their team, so they will play this year under
the franchise tag. Saquon Barkley already said he's holding out,
and many other running backs picked up the cause, very
(06:48):
upset that this is what's happening. Jonathan Taylor tweeting out, Wow,
I can't believe it. Derek Henry saying, why would you
teach any kid to be a running back anymore?
Speaker 4 (06:55):
Now?
Speaker 1 (06:55):
All these running backs? Is that wrong? No, they're all
They have all masked together now and it's like now
now the revenge of the running back is happening. So
what have they done so far? They have found targets
on social media they're very upset about, saying, don't call
me replaceable. You better not call me replaceable. Look, and
then you put a picture of Austin Eckler up or
(07:16):
Isaiah Pacheco had saying, hey, undrafted seventh round guys, here
two of your highly heralded running backs for twenty twenty three. Dude,
here's the thing is that I can. I can put
everything in perspective and help the running backs, all the
upset running back, whether it's Barkley everybody else. Right now,
of course you can't because it's all your fault. That's
not my fault, not my fault. You can blame me.
(07:37):
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your fault. It's not my fault. We did no, no, we
didn't give bad advice to Melvin Gordon. We gave him
the right advice. He just chose not to take it.
(07:59):
But then he got mad fall of the position. No,
it might have been.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Him and led Belle and these guys deciding how I'm
gonna take a ear up and led bell still got
a big contract. You're never getting that fifteen million that
you walked away from back and it really started to
spiral from there, but it's it's been coming for a while.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
And by the way, the guys are still the top
guys are still getting ten million dollars.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Look, here's what I want to say to all the
running back This has been the biggest story of the
last twenty four hours. How upset they are and they
want to find a way. They want to try to
find a way to figure out how they can get
more money. And it's not my fault. I told Melvin Gordon, Dude,
do you got mad at me on social media? Okay,
look where we're at. Sometimes it's difficult to love something
(08:42):
that doesn't love you back, because that's where all these
NFL running backs are right now, and it happens to
everybody unfortunately, in whatever they do for a living. Sometimes
you just love a job and for whatever reason, it
doesn't love you back. And it's very difficult because you
could love doing what you do, you love doing where
you're doing it, and the job doesn't love you back.
(09:04):
It happens. It happened to me at ESPN when I
was there. I love doing what I was doing. Job
didn't love me back, So what was I going to do?
You have to figure out and get right with it
and go on to what's next. And that's what all
the running backs have to do, right now you have
to understand that, Okay, you love this game, You've been
running back your whole life, all these things, and understand
that being offered ten million dollars for one year work
(09:27):
is pretty good. Okay, No one's saying you got to
play for the league minimum. You're making ten million dollars
this year, you get franchise again, you're making thirteen million dollars.
What if you get hurt. It's tackle football. That's the
same thing for everybody, right, everybody else. Nobody was walking
around a few years ago saying, right, guards aren't getting paid.
We have to make sure we stand up for the guards.
So sometimes you love a job that doesn't love you back.
(09:48):
And right now we are at a part of the
National Football League, in the National Football League timeline where
running backs are unfortunately very replaceable. That you can have
a guy be great for us first contract. Do you
want to get on the hook with a guy for
the rest of the rest of another second contract? Sometimes yes,
sometimes no, but inevitably you want out of it. When
(10:08):
a guy hits twenty seven to twenty eight years old.
You have seen the top of the line of running
backs be unable to get new deals. Austin Eckler should
be able to get a big new deal. Guess what
he can't. All right, Dalvin Cook should be able to
get a pretty good deal for a couple of years.
Guess what he can. No matter where you are, running backs,
it's difficult, and you have to get right with that.
This is where you're at in the game, and understand
(10:30):
that you're not going to get incredibly over the top
rich like running backs did a few years ago when
they were signing seven years, seventy million dollar contracts, because
that was what the gate, that was who the game
was built around. The game is built around quarterbacks now.
And I'm sorry. You play a position that has been
devalued by the NFL. But for a lot, like I said,
right guards were devalued, centers were devalued. For a long time,
(10:51):
no one wanted to pay defensive tackles for a long time.
Inside linebackers didn't get paid. No wanted to pay these positions.
But as time has gone on, you have gone in
and out of eras of players getting paid. This is
simply what it is for running backs. It sucks. I'm sorry,
but you got to get right with this and say, okay,
how do we go forward. Can we find a way
to make the pie a little bit bigger where running
(11:13):
backs need to make more money. But you have to
find some way to say, what's what's next now? Because
this is not going to change. You're not going to
change any NFL team's minds about paying anybody. You have
to figure out what do we do next? Because this
is where we're at. And if you're so upset about
being running back, don't play well.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
But that's the thing, right your summary statement is there,
this is a monopoly. Okay, you can go play in
these other leagues. You can go try another sport. You're
a running back in the National Football League. As we
talked about a little bit yesterday when we were in
for Cavino and rich the you had tight ends trying
to say, hey, I'm basically a wide receiver. I do
some blocking, but I'm a wide receiver. And what they say,
(11:52):
beat it. In your CBA, you had this mechanism put
in place for the franchise tag average of the top
five salaries. Guess what if we're talking about you making
ten million dollars, You're being paid as one of the
top five backs in the game. So the way it
is met it out. That is it right? You want
(12:13):
to get rid of those franchise tags. Maybe there's a
little bit that changes in terms of salary structure, but
that's a pretty big give back to ownership. If you
want to go down that road right now, you start
to unravel a lot of your other negotiations and probably
weaken your points in others and nobody. Look, we loved
our three yards and a cloud of dust. You and
(12:35):
I grew up in that era. I'll watch videos of
Earl Campbell and Walter Payton and Barry Sanders toomp Blue
in the face. But that's not the NFL we're in now.
You've got multiple teams with two to three running backs
getting the job done. A lot of guys like Eckler
and others. Yeah, they catch a lot of passes, but
you know what, You're still a running back. You're not
a slot receiver. That's not being realigned. This is not
(12:57):
the King of Queen's episode where Doug claims he's gonna
go work for FedEx. Right, if I don't get that zone,
I'm gonna go leave. Well, what do you want me
to do, Doug? Here's what I'll do. I'll rename that
zone Zone thirteen for you or zone one, whichever.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
He was trying to go one to the other.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Right, he wanted the light packages with the beautiful housewives
as opposed to driving miles to nowhere to wear houses
and stuff, and so he wanted the plumb thing. So
what did the boss do? He said, We'll rename it. Yeah,
you don't want to be called a running back anymore.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
He can do it.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
It's not changing anything. That's still your function on a
football field. Like we talked about, all of these things.
You can change all of these things. You can stipulate too.
At the end of the day, you're still a running back.
You want to hold out. You're now a year older
and you're still a running back.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
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Speaker 1 (13:57):
Oh very appro pro open for this hour of the show.
Greetings and welcome inside hour two of The Jason Smith
Show with my best friend Mike Harmon, live from the
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(14:17):
dot com the way tire buying should be. Well, first,
I got to ask you, are you okay? Your white
Sox just fell to my mets tonight eleven ten. I mean, look,
use you and you get two teams who were combined
eighty five games under five hundred. You throw the record
books out the window? Are you okay? Absorbing another big
defeat tonight? Some men just want to watch the world burn.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
We learned that on the big screen as Dark Knight
premiered fifteen years ago. That was the whole world of
Heath Ledger and the Joker. That's kind of where I'm
at in the final two weeks of this. Just burn
it down. Just burn it down, burn it down, burn
it all down. Whatever guys want to. Julido could become
a Dodger, Eloijamenez. Get him off the get him back
(15:01):
on a field so you can trade him.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Bring Larusa back.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Sure, you know what, But I mean, I think this
year has shown once and for all that everybody that
wanted to bash Tony Larusa you can all go to hell.
You didn't know what you were talking about because clearly
it ain't him.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Because clearly, when other guy's falling asleep in the dugout,
it's not working. Last year, the last couple of years,
at least day when he fell asleep in the dug
out it worked a little bit.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
The point is that the players are the same. Look
at what they're doing. Look the results. Kip sleeping fought,
I don't care. Same guys. Hey, you know what day
is it? Oh, he's gonna get hurt. So you okay,
he's got a pull of hamstring. I mean you could
be tanking for Cayleb Williams, so it's okay. Well, does
(15:42):
he play baseball the way you can throw? Why not
just put him out there and see what he can do?
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Well, if we can teach him about a pitch? Yeah,
I mean, do you really have to teach him? And
it's the White Sox. He just put him out there
and say, just throw to that guy with the glove.
You're the mats. What are you talking about?
Speaker 3 (15:55):
Two guys that are yes, Yeah, we did that, So
don't tell.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Me about Don't laugh, Frostbury, you're getting sures are in
two weeks. Don't laugh. You're getting them and you know
you're getting four backs, and you know you're getting four Yeah,
we could just cut them. Yeah, that's fine, that's fine.
We'll just we'll just cut them and we're good, and
you're on the hook for all that money with shirts arm.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Figure out sid that's that's gonna be part of the deal,
and you're gonna have to eat it.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Look, I DoD Dodgers ain't taking the Mets. The Mets
will eat I would say half the money at least
for Verlander and Shurser, and they'll be able to trade
both of them because they're both pitching better. Verlander's hitting
ninety eight, ninety nine, and the gun again sures as
pitching well, pitched a great game the other night. You
know they lost, pitch a great game the other night.
Now the Mets will be able to trade both of
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these guys and get another bite at it next year
and say, okay, we're not paying They'll pay half the salaries,
which is the genius of Steve Cohen. They'll pay half
the salaries or half the money they'll have, and they'll
get a couple of decent prospects. All right, this is
what we're in. We're in for shures for this year
and next. All right, that's fine. We're not spending as
much money, that's fine. And as long as Verre keeps
throwing ninety eight ninety nine on the gun. Yeah, we're
(17:02):
gonna trade both of them, and you're gonna get them,
Frostburg and Fendley, your padres are gonna get You're gonna
eat get your year again. You're gonna get them, and
you're gonna.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Get all of them.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Knuckle sandwich, knuckles sandwich. We're talking pig knuckle sandwich. That
can work in pig knuckle sandwich. But yeah, I mean
they're gonna trade off. They're gonna divest. Uh.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Maybe someone in the organization has some glimmer of hope
when you're beating the hapless defeated White Sox.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Yeah, that's the danger of these kind of series coming
out of the breaks.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
So yeah, we're excited. Look at it. We won.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
We won three out of four, we won four out
of five. Who'ld you beat doesn't matter? Hey, so whoever's
on the schedule. I can't change the wrong victories. I
can't do that makes no difference. Does it really change
your evaluation?
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Hey?
Speaker 4 (17:50):
Man?
Speaker 3 (17:50):
They're wins and we take them up. But the next
couple of weeks highly interesting. A lot of big games
have been bandied about as potentially on the move, including
your pictures from the.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
Men and.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Right, Otani Watch Rules It All and all of the
photoshopped jersey, everything else.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Otani and everybody from the Mets and Padres. That's a
lot of money, that's a lot of big names. They
are gonna be no And I.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Think the fun part of it in the end is
when they just say, hey, look, we unveiled a new
uniform that's we're gonna use for the final two months.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
So everybody that wants an Otani jersey.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Here in in Anaheim, you gotta come to the games
to get it.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
That's the only place get your complitative show. Hey Otani jersey,
give when while you're here. We're live from the Tirack
dot Com Studios TJ. The Angels will be leaving no
doubt that they will trade Otani coming up in the
next couple of weeks. Uh, TJ. Clearly, Otani not just
a hitter, He's not just a pitcher. Okay, We're live
(18:52):
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should be. So we talked a few minutes ago about
how the Joelle Embiid interview he gave on Thursday about
I could win in Philadelphia or someplace else didn't get
(19:12):
around the first time. So now, hey, let's make sure
people understand he said that because he wants out from Philadelphia,
and yesterday it happened. It was eight days ago. Talk
about not quite tomorrow's takes tonight, but how about today's
takes last week? And it actually was even before that,
but it was eight days ago where we talked on
the show about Bill Belichick and we said again for
(19:34):
probably the second or third time this offseason, he is
coaching for his life with the Patriots this season. Yeah,
I saw that attributed to show we get that forever
he is coaching for his life. We laid out the
reasons why I told you he's coaching for his life.
What do we get In the last twenty four hours,
Bill Belichick was on the hot seat. Uh, you had
(19:55):
Tom Curran insider with the Patriots Benvilln also insider saying, hey,
there's a lot of stuff going on, and Bill Belichick
is coaching. He's on the hot seat. Wait is he really?
Oh my, hey, we told you this a week and
we've been telling you this.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Well you got the report of the family and everybody
getting all nervous.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Yes, this is it for Belichick. He is absolutely one
coaching for his job. There are so many things that
have happened already that you can tell the momentum is there. Look,
I'll outline it for you again, like we outline it
for you over the course of the last couple of months. Look,
you have the Belichick Bob Craft. Hey, we're not spending
as much as other teams. Bob Craft is very upset.
(20:33):
You already know Bob Craft is upset that they haven't
made the playoffs, having hey, we want to win, we
want to win. So you know he's been antsy for
the last couple of years. The mac Jones and the Hamptons. Pick.
You have Tom Brady and mccordy and mac Jones is
going to a party in the Hamptons. No, Bill Belichick
know nothing. Where's Robert Craft? Yes, exactly, hanging out. Look
all of this. What's been going on, the lack of
(20:55):
any kind of urgency to build a roster, which Belichick
has not done, any urgency to develop mac Jones, the
ridiculous decision to say I don't need an offensive coordinator.
I'm gonna have my defensive coordinator be the offensive coordinator.
He has made horrible decisions the last couple of years.
And now I'll take you one step further. Since we
already told you he was coaching for a job that show,
(21:16):
just give you something else. The biggest blank show in
the NFL this year is going to be the Patriots.
They will be the biggest blank show. You know why
because there's built in interest in what happens here. You
already know the owner and the head coacher at odds,
and you already know that the quarterback is not a
big fan of the head coach. And where Brady had
to fight that battle with him with the two of them,
(21:39):
and he was able to win. Can mac Jones win it? No,
but I think he thinks he can win it. Hey,
I'm the chosen one. I'm the guy that got it
after Tom Brady. Nobody is on the same page. Belichick
has run this team into oblivion the last couple of years,
and now you have every team in the AFC East
is better on paper than they are. The Bills may
take a bit of a step back, but the Bills
(21:59):
are still better than the Patriots. The Jets have taken
a huge step forward, the Dolphins have taken a huge
step forward. What have the Patriots done that's gonna make
you say they've kept up with those teams? Nothing? Well,
hold on to be an absolute blank show with the Patriots,
and it's gonna be circling. Is Belichier gonna make it
the whole season? Is he gonna retire in the middle?
Is he gonna quit? Is he gonna quit so you
can get another job next year and coach someplace else.
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That's the kind of blank show. It's gonna be in
New England all season one. And Jared Mayo stuck around,
so you've got that swirling in the background as well.
Defense is still gonna be pretty good. And this allows.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
Me to shoehorn something that happened over the weekend, a
deal that got done, and I heard and I saw
in my timeline a bunch of dope he takes about
it related to well, they couldn't even get DeAndre Hopkins there.
He went to Tennessee. Why would he go to Tennessee
and not New England because Bill O'Brien is on the
staff and trader. Bill's the guy that said blake you
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and sent him to Arizona.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Do you think do we remember this people? Do you
think when he went for the visit, they said, Bill, hey,
just just let you know Deandre's coming today. Don't come
out of your office. Make sure nobody sees away DeAndre.
Wait a minute, I think I saw the name plate.
Is Bill O'Brien? No, no, no, no, no no no,
he was asking the coffee machine. I saw him. That
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wasn't him, but just a guy that looks like him.
Forget that whole debacle in Houston that said him. I'm
I'm on Google it says that Bill O'Brien's on staff.
No no, no, he's not.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
But like well the fat to fake account, but trying
to use that like all these other things. I could
get on board with saying there's some issues and receiving wise,
you bring in Devontae Parker who was flashed in spots,
he's never become that full guy. You have Juju Smith
Schustra who he's been a Brett Saberhagen great reference here
right on even odd like, let's just go through so
(23:49):
is he the good Juju Smith Schuster this year after
what he did in case he or does he revert
to some of the lower efforts. You brought in Gasiki
from Miami, so who underachieved that.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Let's bring in another under achievement. But it's all they've done.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Well that that was a function of the way they
ran their offense and decided not to use Let's keep.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Bringing into paying the money and actually having them absolutely
disappoint us, but better.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
Henry's been a good red zone guy. He's been pretty good.
Like John hu Smith was an abject failure. But you
bring in Gaseki.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
You've got a pretty good running back in Steven So,
you brought in Time Montgomery, who's a nice kind of
gadget guy as a a runner slash receiver, you've got
some opportunity.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
And Pierre Strong looked pretty good at spots. Offensive line
is pretty good, Your defense is gonna be good.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Look, they're not Arizona or Las Vegas. They're more interesting
because of the history and these built in storylines. But
I don't think they're the blank show that you think
they will be about, because you're also crowning the Jets. Absolutely,
they're still the there's still the Jets. They're not gonna
I'm not saying the Patriots are gonna go oh to sixteen,
although they're gonna start out really horribly because it's Philadelphia, Miami,
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the Jet, that's Dallas, New Orleans, Vegas, and Buffalo and
Miami that it's New Orleans. They'll lose to Philadelphia, they
lose to Miami. They'll lose at the Jets. They'll lose
in Miami or in Foxborough. It's it's it's that's in Foxborough. Okay,
they can win that game. But they're gonna starting four
my Philadelphia, Miami, Jets, Dallas. They'll be the Jets. They'll
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beat Dallas. Happening. No, No, they're at That game is
at Dallas. Do I'm not gonna win at Dallas. They're
gonna lose all those.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
By that point the season, Dak Prescott's halfway to his
ten intersections and then they.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Have to play Buffalo and Miami again before we get
to the halfway part of the season. So they're going
to be in the second half opens up, let's go.
It's going to be disappointing. They'll be under five hundred,
they'll be in last place in the AFC East, and
it's going to be every day of Is this it
for Bill Belichick in New England? Look at what he said.
He has no problem throwing shade during press coffey if
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he's throwing shade in the summer when everything should be fun. Yeah,
we don't spend like we did. Dude, you went on
the biggest spending spree ever and you spend it on
bad people. You have no run this team well at all.
Anybody else would have been fired. But because you're a
genius and you won all these super Bowls with Tom Brady. Hey,
Bill Kraft has said do what you need to do.
And now wait a minute, now we got to take
(26:11):
the car keys from you because dude, you can't do
this anymore. Man. You cannot tell me one thing he's
done that makes you say, yes, Belichick's got it. Belichick
still has it. Tell me there's not one there's not
one big move that he has said. Hey Belichick, he's
look what he's done. He'd be moved on from Brady.
He segued, do it no, he hasn't. He's done nothing.
And you see it's already contentious again. It's gonna be
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the biggest blank show all season long in New.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
England's part of this just because you hate the Patriots
in their long standing success as a Jets fan, fueling
some of this.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
That has nothing to do with this, That is irrelevant,
that is that is stricken from the record, that is
not a question that needed to be not allowed in
this courtroom. No contempt, no sir, Yes, fine two thousand
held you in contemp for nine years. It's been about
a decade.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
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No one better. It's got new music apparently here's a
long time NFL insider. You can check him out on
Twitter at Jason Cole sixty two. He is also a
Hall of Very Good voter and also apparently he's moving
on up to something. We have to find out what
(28:12):
it is. Maybe he'll be starring in the sequel to
The Jeffersons. We'll find out right now. Jake Cole new music.
What's up?
Speaker 4 (28:21):
Oh? This is? This is so beautiful. This is my
childhood Norman Lear at his best. Just fantastic stuff. But
it's the fact that I'm appearing before a Thursday or
Friday night, so I feel like I'm moving on up.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Oh okay, good, very good. There Yeah, yeah, there's a
there's a there quick start of this. There's a band
that one of one of my wife and I's favorite
local bands. We saw. This is backtly going back like
twenty years. We would go see them all the time,
and the last song they would do in their content,
they would close their set with the team to the Jeffersons.
(28:59):
And I can tell you how many we're just we're
just hammered. They're going, hey, you guys want to hear
one more song, yelling the Jeffersons. We're just screaming, and
in one time, because we've gone to see a bunch
of the lead singers. He looks out at us and goes, Okay,
Jefferson's up there, one, two, three, as long as we live.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
Awesome, ain't nothing more what we got and we're moving on.
Oh that's so great.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
No people going free bird down.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
We need we need to dance like Sherman Hemsley, because
I will say this, Sherman Hemsley could cut some rug
man that grand could really could really really dance. He
really could. That's a thing I mean. And look, I
know it doesn't probably that show does not translate to
the modern day, but it's in its time like people
were really messed up. Going wait a second, there are
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black people as the lead actors. What are we doing here?
What could it possibly be happening? And they're not, they're
not poor and indigent. What's going on? It blew people's
minds break. It's absolutely everything about it. People don't get
it now, but that was that was amazing television at
the times.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Well glad you moved up, because what will be better
television reruns of The Jeffersons or Hard Knocks this year
because the Jets say, we don't want to show a
lot getting cut.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
Uh, I mean the essential part of Hard Knocks.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
It's going to be soft Knocks, somewhat hard, medium range.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
Knocks, Sherman Knox. Here we go, that's what we'll call it.
Man I I'm sure they want to stay so clear
of anything with Aaron Rodgers and never forget the cuts,
but like, we want less Aaron Rodgers and Hard Knocks
is like no, no, no, this is all Aaron Rodgers,
especially after seeing the success of this Quarterback Show, which
(30:57):
Peyton Manning is now like this is my favorite quote
of the day where Peyton man talks about how how
you know their Netflix is bringing back the Quarterbacks show? Right,
and he goes, I don't want to hear about this,
you know, being a distraction for quarterbacks. It's like Peyton
in your career. You never would have done this ever
because you would have called it a distraction. There's no way.
(31:18):
And now you're like leaning on people because you've got
a little bit of leverage on him. Come on, like
stop it, but it will go on. And yes, Hard
Knox is going to be all Aaron Rodgers and all
Zach Wilson and a few other entertaining moments along the way.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Well you got I mean Zach Wilson's mom still part
of the larger equations. She evidently a prose of his
current girlfriend. I mean, you could get a whole episode
by just doing his entire speech.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
I mean our current girlfriend, his current girlfriend, which she's
known for thirty years. I mean, is that what's happened?
Speaker 1 (31:51):
No, no, no, it's different. That was last year. Come on,
that was last year. That's last year's headline. Come on.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
I mean, if nothing else, you could just play back
all of Rogers comments and Q and A and speech
at the Ayahuasca Psychedelics conference.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
I mean, get a whole episode out of that, y'all.
It's just gonna be. It's gonna be. It's gonna be
Aaron Rodgers saying, Hey, we really don't want this at all,
None of us want this. Just just take the camera
around the corner. I'll be there in like thirty seconds.
Whatever you got, whatever you want to ask, right around
the corner. Whatever you get?
Speaker 4 (32:25):
Quote? What quote do you need from me today?
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Guys just starts yelling line, I have lots of things
I want to say that are all really hot takes.
What do you want from me today? What do you
what do you want me to give you today?
Speaker 4 (32:39):
Zach? Did you open your playbook today? What happened? See?
What do I want to do with practice tomorrow? I'll
let you know. You know?
Speaker 1 (32:53):
And that's the thing. Well, I only promise to be
here for half of them, so I'm taking a day.
That's I thay. Look, I don't think any of the
players care about her knocks. The guy that cares the
most is Robert Salah because he's the guy. I guarantee
he's walking around right now going They're gonna cut it
to make it look like Aaron's the head coach and
I'm just saying yes, and I'm really the head coach
of the defense. They're gonna do to me.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
That doesn't require editor that's just what it is.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
They will fund him. They will fund him. Robert Sala
defensive head coach.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
Yeah, Robert, go stand over there until the defense shows up.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Okay, head coach of the defense. Aaron Rodgers really the
head coach. And there's a.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
Picture they try to do a thing with Nathaniel Hackett
and Rogers just pushes him out of the way.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
I just listened to him over.
Speaker 4 (33:45):
There trying to get some stage time on Hard Knocks.
Now I'm really the head coach. I swear I am good.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
If they really wanted to, you know, the other team
I really want to see. We talked about him a
few minutes ago. Give me the Patriots on Hard Knocks.
Give me that blank show take place all season long
with Belichick hating on Craft and hating on Mac Jones
and everything being horrendous and bad decisions being made. Now,
give me the Patriots on Hard Knocks.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
Uh, I just it's just now because it's so boring
with Bill. I mean, because Bill keeps everything so tight.
You know he's never going to say anything with a
camera in front of him. You just know that that's
how he is. And Bill to be quite honest. When
he's at his best in front of the team, it's
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when he's like super sarcastic and you know, making some jokes,
and his sarcasm doesn't translate to it to the general audience.
It comes off as so snarky as to be like
really truly mean spirited, where if you know Belichick, he's
(34:55):
really you know, it's it's meant to be it's meant
to be funny, and it is cutting. You know, there
is a message behind it. But I just don't, like,
I think about listening to Belichick, even the private moments
I've had with him, and I just don't think it
would be all that entertaining unless you are a super
serious football fan and you're like into like history and
(35:20):
knowing why he does things. And that's just not what
Hard Knocks is about. Hard Knocks is about hot tapes.
That's what they do. And you know, or should we say,
shall we just rename it now? Are we just gonna
call it soft knocks?
Speaker 1 (35:32):
You know, we're gonna call it a Summer with Aaron
Rodgers's Oh, that's pretty cool. I like that, my summer
with Aaron quarterback Aaron Rodgers. That's part of the Netflix
saying no, no, it's a new thing to HBO.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
Or call it? Do we call it? Aaron knocks?
Speaker 1 (35:49):
I like what you did there? Should we just have
a companion?
Speaker 3 (35:54):
Showed about the text exchanges of disgruntled running backs.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
That's that's so great. It is so great for those
guys that they are, that they're finally figuring it out,
that that they're they're not getting paid. My favorite though,
was the text by Le'Veon Bell where he talked about
comparing it to a bugs life.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
Yeah, that's good.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
He's one of the ants with And as I was
reading that and thinking about the sort of the economic
understanding of what he's trying to say, like I could
really I could really sense the logic of Robert Reich
and he used to work in the Clinton administration when
we talk about economics often, I thought it was very
much a parallel conversation because I see Robert Reich talking
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about a bug's life as he tried to explain economics
to most people.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
So really, there they are the ants, right. Because Box
Office was so dismal.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
I thought you were doing you were going to got
more of the big short and here's Morgo Robbie explaining
how big it's good. There's Margo Robbie in a hot
jump explaining why running backs don't get the low.
Speaker 4 (37:03):
Could you imagine, you know, Le'Veon Bell like giving you
a movie review of the big Shorts, like based on
what you just saw from him today. Because here's the
thing running backs don't understand. Like, the NFLPA sold those
guys out, and I put that on Twitter today. The
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NFLPA sold that running backs back in twenty eleven when
they agreed to the rookie wage scale. Because if you
have a guy, you have you have initially a four
year contract, right then you have the fifty year option,
and then you have on top of that, you have
the right to franchise a guy. So yeah, I'm control
(37:44):
of a guy for six years. How many running backs
are any good after six years? Because you know, if
they're decent, they're playing rookie year and they're playing a lot,
and then they go through the meat grinder and they go,
you know somewhere between two hundred and fifty and three hundred.
You know, for three years, they're pretty much done. You know,
they're lucky. If you know they're lucky, if they're is
(38:05):
Ezekiel Elliott and they get to a second contract right away,
and you know, they basically, you know, put some pressure
on the team to give them a new contract. But
most guys, you know, they're just they're done after that
period of time. Even the guys who were in the
second round when's a four year deal with a franchise,
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they're pretty much done after the five years. So the
teams don't want to pay those guys on a second contract.
The only solution and the NFLPA, I don't think they
are ever going to have the leverage to do this,
And I'm not sure how long it's going to take
with a new executive director who, by the way, doesn't
have any background in football, right, he has never worked
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in the football industry to begin with, for him to
figure out what the pros and cons of the collective
bargaining agreement are, and the fact that you know, you
should be fighting for three year deals so guys get
paid sooner rather than you know, having these the rookie
wage scale the way it is, and I don't know
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if they're ever going to get the kind of leverage
that they need to get that kind of deal. Now
that's all technical stuff that fans just don't care about.
But that's why these guys don't don't get paid. And
instead of griping at the teams, you should be griping
at your own union because.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
I feel like for for running backs, they're at the
point where a lot of us get to where, hey,
you love a job that doesn't love you back, right,
because that that's kind of what that's kind of what
it is. This job does not love running backs and
it just doesn't. This is just the way the NFL is.
Speaker 4 (39:39):
No, no, no, no, no, I disagree with that. This
job loves running backs and loves to use them as
mainstays because basically, any good running back is going to
touch the ball on what twenty to twenty five percent
of all your plays throughout a season. He's going to
be involved, and he's going to be and he's going
to be a featured weapon. Even the other times that
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he doesn't touch the ball, you're going to fake that.
You're going to get him the ball in other situations. Right,
So we love them, but they also understand we're going
to chew you up and spit you out and that's
just the nature of the game. This is how the
game is played. And if you agree to a system
that allows us to take advantage of that. Why do
(40:23):
you blame us for not paying you like that? The
fault of this is not the teams and the owners.
The fault of this was the people who negotiated the
CBA and gave away too much to create a rookie
wage scale because NFL owners somehow convinced the players it
was a bad idea for rookies to make a lot
(40:45):
of money. What you thought that was a good idea
in a meat grinder sport where most guys don't last
three or four years, you're going to have a system
where guys have to, you know, like work two or
three years before they make their money. Like that's one
of the stupid you know, it's one of the stupidest
things that the union ever agreed to. They should have
(41:06):
just said three year max contracts for rookies. They gotta
get paid right away. That's just the way this works.
Speaker 1 (41:13):
He's on Twitter at Jason Cole sixty two solving the
problems of running backs as we speak.
Speaker 4 (41:20):
And and waiting for Aaron knock yep and j knocks
on the door of the Jefferson's apartment. Could you see
that make sure that's good.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
Heydowa it wady, who is it?
Speaker 4 (41:35):
It's just it's this guy with a mustache and a
beard talking about hyawatska. What is that?
Speaker 1 (41:41):
Take it easy, hi, J Coles.
Speaker 3 (41:44):
Write something about that now. But yeah, I mean Leed
Bell was right right. They're the ants, but not the
ants in A bug Life. It's the competing movie A
Z which did half the box office, like still did
all the same work, like Jim Nance a n t
Z at the end, not time v Woody Allen
Speaker 1 (42:05):
That did literally half the box office of A Bug's Life.
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Speaker 3 (00:44):
The battle for supremacy of the show begins. Does the
loser have to trade someone? Immediately after the final out?
Loser leaves town? But like legitimately you just a microphone
goes into the dugout and someone volunteers this.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Tribute to me rated Yeah. No, Well, looks the Hunger
Games listen. I I would I would say that that
would be a good way to end this game. It
is terrible. However, two terrible teams. It is awful. I mean,
look the Mets are winning eleven two. Now it's eleven nine.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
I didn't think these would be the stakes for Mets
White Sox this season when our teams played like we had,
we had hopes and dreams, and now we have that's
aupot of time. Yeah. I keep telling you, Hope, how
dangerous it is. I mean, come on, yeah, I had
hopes and dreams, and now I have the Jets. Jets, Jets, Jets, Jets, Jets, Jets.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Again, that's a lot of wish and wanting, hoping, and uh,
well let's see how that plays. We got plenty of
time to talk about that. But yeah, you're eleven two.
Lead is no more? Yeah, been a minute for you
and I back here.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
We haven't seen each other and I I've seen you
and it's like it's like one hundred and five degrees
out right now, and Harmon's wearing a sweatshirt almost like
you're going through it like a sweat cleander. That's it,
That's what it is. That what you're doing to those
sweats Are you really doing that? Are you wear like
a weighted vest under that sweatshirt? To wait it it's
just the neoprene. Oh my god, it is really you
are really doing that, dude, that could be dangerous for
(02:02):
you tonight. I'm not outside.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
I'm here in the sixty four degree Fox Worts radio
that you're doing. So it's just like wearing a sweatshirt.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
So I'm trying to get myself to just a both.
I mean, I can heat heat it up in here.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
A little bit. We're gonna keep the temperature down because
it's bleeping hot out man. So I don't know if
that's internally it'll help me a little bit? Is it
gonna help You're not gonna have the same effect. If
I sat out there, I'd fry like an egg, okay,
But in here it'll have a little bit because because
I am fat. When when you start get loopy later,
I mean, what do I do? I just cut it
off of you like they do in the TV, right,
I just cut it right off, straight ups, like we
(02:35):
got it. We gotta get it loose, all right, ty shirt?
You and I are gonna have to innovate if something
happens to harmon, Okay? Is that pc?
Speaker 4 (02:41):
Like?
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Can I innovate?
Speaker 4 (02:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:43):
No, you can't. Yeah that one of those like what
which pen are you gonna use?
Speaker 4 (02:46):
Though?
Speaker 1 (02:46):
It's gotta be something faint. Oh yeah, yeah, you a
pen Yeah, okay, because you gotta give me a trachy
out of me. Yeah, you're gonna jam it right down
in there.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Sure you can get the airway going if I have
if I'm struggling breathing, Yeah, like the highlighters and stuff
and the sharpies they won't work.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
We need something better than that. Yeah. So I have
done a backyonomy before. Is that okay? I don't know.
I think it's perform back surgery money. It'll be a
little bit different. It's gonna be the front side. We
got to cut harm and sweat to here. Let's cut
his sweasht off now, just to practice. I'm so down.
I just see where we're at. All right, you're good.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Should we start with the sleeves like you? I mean,
and where my Mets T shirt say, it's Mets white socks.
It's exciting, buddy, I mean it's not really which was
really exciting until they met that buzz saw. That was
the oras. Look, if we're gonna do conversations about nineteen
seventy eight with Rob Parker in the hallway, I can
bring up the eighty three white socks what do you.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Got Frostburg Well, in honor of the Dark Night's fifteenth anniversary, right, yes,
why don't we get a pencil? My fuck, the guys
are going pen really it's good, gonna make that pencil disappear?
Who wants to see me? Make we can try? Now
that happens, Like, would that help you at all? I like,
if you start, really, if if your head gets really sweaty,
(03:57):
can I make the pencil disappear? Would that help? Things?
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Might help?
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Man?
Speaker 1 (04:00):
It might be like Homer when they had the cranon
and oh yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
It's fun really kind of disturbing. If you start running
the joker lines from from Dark Knight while you're watching
Ten Things I Hate About You, it really becomes a
much different movie.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Who wants to see me? Give Mike Harmon a cranyotomy
boom And then suddenly, all of a sudden, maybe you
will be cut walls. All of a sudden you will know.
You'll be like Matt Damon and Goodwill Honey, You'll just
know everything and start writing. You'll be cutting your finger
and blood to write equations on the wall. Here. I
just have to get it out of torture genius. Not
I gotta write it out. I gotta write it out.
I can't help it.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
I pricked my finger. I'm like or I just grabbing
the blood from my head and writing I did that.
But also think about the Joker on the stand singing
love you baby.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Yeah, my ship ears for the Dark Knight crazy? Who
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passes for a big game? Well, it's big for us
tonight because it's bragging rights and it's pile drivers and
all kinds of stuff and cranyotomies and all all kinds stuff. Well,
the Dodgers Orioles was supposed to be a good game.
(05:09):
It was, but you know, the Orioles are kind of
hurting me here a little bit with my big, you know,
second a half bold prediction they were gonna win the
Al East.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Well, but this is not This is not the series.
You want to predict it after this series, Yeah, it
really is. After the Dodgers leaves it out, you can
move forward.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
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(05:49):
of upset running backs. Mike Harmon, they are, they're still salty.
Now they're forming are now they're uniting in group textas
in the format, Hey, no one's getting paid. We gotta
do something about That's where you get stuff done is
in the group text. Are you mad about your contract? Yes?
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Hey, and here's a flaming dumpster emoji to let you.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Know all about it. Hey, do me a favorite? Can
you loop Dalvin cook In on this? How do I
do that? I don't know how. You just got to
go go to where they hit the eye for information,
hit the add a person add Dalvin.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
No, we can't add him because if he signs a deal,
we're gonna have to remove him.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
And that's a lot harder. It was yesterday that we
found out Saquon Barkley, Josh Jacobs, Tony Pollard, three of
the best running backs in the NFL all get franchise tag.
They could not come to terms on a new deal
with their team, so they will play this year under
the franchise tag. Saquon Barkley already said he's holding out,
and many other running backs picked up the cause, very
(06:48):
upset that this is what's happening. Jonathan Taylor tweeting out, Wow,
I can't believe it. Derek Henry saying, why would you
teach any kid to be a running back anymore?
Speaker 4 (06:55):
Now?
Speaker 1 (06:55):
All these running backs? Is that wrong? No, they're all
They have all masked together now and it's like now
now the revenge of the running back is happening. So
what have they done so far? They have found targets
on social media they're very upset about, saying, don't call
me replaceable. You better not call me replaceable. Look, and
then you put a picture of Austin Eckler up or
(07:16):
Isaiah Pacheco had saying, hey, undrafted seventh round guys, here
two of your highly heralded running backs for twenty twenty three. Dude,
here's the thing is that I can. I can put
everything in perspective and help the running backs, all the
upset running back, whether it's Barkley everybody else. Right now,
of course you can't because it's all your fault. That's
not my fault, not my fault. You can blame me.
(07:37):
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your fault. It's not my fault. We did no, no, we
didn't give bad advice to Melvin Gordon. We gave him
the right advice. He just chose not to take it.
(07:59):
But then he got mad fall of the position. No,
it might have been.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Him and led Belle and these guys deciding how I'm
gonna take a ear up and led bell still got
a big contract. You're never getting that fifteen million that
you walked away from back and it really started to
spiral from there, but it's it's been coming for a while.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
And by the way, the guys are still the top
guys are still getting ten million dollars.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Look, here's what I want to say to all the
running back This has been the biggest story of the
last twenty four hours. How upset they are and they
want to find a way. They want to try to
find a way to figure out how they can get
more money. And it's not my fault. I told Melvin Gordon, Dude,
do you got mad at me on social media? Okay,
look where we're at. Sometimes it's difficult to love something
(08:42):
that doesn't love you back, because that's where all these
NFL running backs are right now, and it happens to
everybody unfortunately, in whatever they do for a living. Sometimes
you just love a job and for whatever reason, it
doesn't love you back. And it's very difficult because you
could love doing what you do, you love doing where
you're doing it, and the job doesn't love you back.
(09:04):
It happens. It happened to me at ESPN when I
was there. I love doing what I was doing. Job
didn't love me back, So what was I going to do?
You have to figure out and get right with it
and go on to what's next. And that's what all
the running backs have to do, right now you have
to understand that, Okay, you love this game, You've been
running back your whole life, all these things, and understand
that being offered ten million dollars for one year work
(09:27):
is pretty good. Okay, No one's saying you got to
play for the league minimum. You're making ten million dollars
this year, you get franchise again, you're making thirteen million dollars.
What if you get hurt. It's tackle football. That's the
same thing for everybody, right, everybody else. Nobody was walking
around a few years ago saying, right, guards aren't getting paid.
We have to make sure we stand up for the guards.
So sometimes you love a job that doesn't love you back.
(09:48):
And right now we are at a part of the
National Football League, in the National Football League timeline where
running backs are unfortunately very replaceable. That you can have
a guy be great for us first contract. Do you
want to get on the hook with a guy for
the rest of the rest of another second contract? Sometimes yes,
sometimes no, but inevitably you want out of it. When
(10:08):
a guy hits twenty seven to twenty eight years old.
You have seen the top of the line of running
backs be unable to get new deals. Austin Eckler should
be able to get a big new deal. Guess what
he can't. All right, Dalvin Cook should be able to
get a pretty good deal for a couple of years.
Guess what he can. No matter where you are, running backs,
it's difficult, and you have to get right with that.
This is where you're at in the game, and understand
(10:30):
that you're not going to get incredibly over the top
rich like running backs did a few years ago when
they were signing seven years, seventy million dollar contracts, because
that was what the gate, that was who the game
was built around. The game is built around quarterbacks now.
And I'm sorry. You play a position that has been
devalued by the NFL. But for a lot, like I said,
right guards were devalued, centers were devalued. For a long time,
(10:51):
no one wanted to pay defensive tackles for a long time.
Inside linebackers didn't get paid. No wanted to pay these positions.
But as time has gone on, you have gone in
and out of eras of players getting paid. This is
simply what it is for running backs. It sucks. I'm sorry,
but you got to get right with this and say, okay,
how do we go forward. Can we find a way
to make the pie a little bit bigger where running
(11:13):
backs need to make more money. But you have to
find some way to say, what's what's next now? Because
this is not going to change. You're not going to
change any NFL team's minds about paying anybody. You have
to figure out what do we do next? Because this
is where we're at. And if you're so upset about
being running back, don't play well.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
But that's the thing, right your summary statement is there,
this is a monopoly. Okay, you can go play in
these other leagues. You can go try another sport. You're
a running back in the National Football League. As we
talked about a little bit yesterday when we were in
for Cavino and rich the you had tight ends trying
to say, hey, I'm basically a wide receiver. I do
some blocking, but I'm a wide receiver. And what they say,
(11:52):
beat it. In your CBA, you had this mechanism put
in place for the franchise tag average of the top
five salaries. Guess what if we're talking about you making
ten million dollars, You're being paid as one of the
top five backs in the game. So the way it
is met it out. That is it right? You want
(12:13):
to get rid of those franchise tags. Maybe there's a
little bit that changes in terms of salary structure, but
that's a pretty big give back to ownership. If you
want to go down that road right now, you start
to unravel a lot of your other negotiations and probably
weaken your points in others and nobody. Look, we loved
our three yards and a cloud of dust. You and
(12:35):
I grew up in that era. I'll watch videos of
Earl Campbell and Walter Payton and Barry Sanders toomp Blue
in the face. But that's not the NFL we're in now.
You've got multiple teams with two to three running backs
getting the job done. A lot of guys like Eckler
and others. Yeah, they catch a lot of passes, but
you know what, You're still a running back. You're not
a slot receiver. That's not being realigned. This is not
(12:57):
the King of Queen's episode where Doug claims he's gonna
go work for FedEx. Right, if I don't get that zone,
I'm gonna go leave. Well, what do you want me
to do, Doug? Here's what I'll do. I'll rename that
zone Zone thirteen for you or zone one, whichever.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
He was trying to go one to the other.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Right, he wanted the light packages with the beautiful housewives
as opposed to driving miles to nowhere to wear houses
and stuff, and so he wanted the plumb thing. So
what did the boss do? He said, We'll rename it. Yeah,
you don't want to be called a running back anymore.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
He can do it.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
It's not changing anything. That's still your function on a
football field. Like we talked about, all of these things.
You can change all of these things. You can stipulate too.
At the end of the day, you're still a running back.
You want to hold out. You're now a year older
and you're still a running back.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
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Speaker 1 (13:57):
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dot com the way tire buying should be. Well, first,
I got to ask you, are you okay? Your white
Sox just fell to my mets tonight eleven ten. I mean, look,
use you and you get two teams who were combined
eighty five games under five hundred. You throw the record
books out the window? Are you okay? Absorbing another big
defeat tonight? Some men just want to watch the world burn.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
We learned that on the big screen as Dark Knight
premiered fifteen years ago. That was the whole world of
Heath Ledger and the Joker. That's kind of where I'm
at in the final two weeks of this. Just burn
it down. Just burn it down, burn it down, burn
it all down. Whatever guys want to. Julido could become
a Dodger, Eloijamenez. Get him off the get him back
(15:01):
on a field so you can trade him.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Bring Larusa back.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Sure, you know what, But I mean, I think this
year has shown once and for all that everybody that
wanted to bash Tony Larusa you can all go to hell.
You didn't know what you were talking about because clearly
it ain't him.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Because clearly, when other guy's falling asleep in the dugout,
it's not working. Last year, the last couple of years,
at least day when he fell asleep in the dug
out it worked a little bit.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
The point is that the players are the same. Look
at what they're doing. Look the results. Kip sleeping fought,
I don't care. Same guys. Hey, you know what day
is it? Oh, he's gonna get hurt. So you okay,
he's got a pull of hamstring. I mean you could
be tanking for Cayleb Williams, so it's okay. Well, does
(15:42):
he play baseball the way you can throw? Why not
just put him out there and see what he can do?
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Well, if we can teach him about a pitch? Yeah,
I mean, do you really have to teach him? And
it's the White Sox. He just put him out there
and say, just throw to that guy with the glove.
You're the mats. What are you talking about?
Speaker 3 (15:55):
Two guys that are yes, Yeah, we did that, So
don't tell.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Me about Don't laugh, Frostbury, you're getting sures are in
two weeks. Don't laugh. You're getting them and you know
you're getting four backs, and you know you're getting four Yeah,
we could just cut them. Yeah, that's fine, that's fine.
We'll just we'll just cut them and we're good, and
you're on the hook for all that money with shirts arm.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Figure out sid that's that's gonna be part of the deal,
and you're gonna have to eat it.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Look, I DoD Dodgers ain't taking the Mets. The Mets
will eat I would say half the money at least
for Verlander and Shurser, and they'll be able to trade
both of them because they're both pitching better. Verlander's hitting
ninety eight, ninety nine, and the gun again sures as
pitching well, pitched a great game the other night. You
know they lost, pitch a great game the other night.
Now the Mets will be able to trade both of
(16:42):
these guys and get another bite at it next year
and say, okay, we're not paying They'll pay half the salaries,
which is the genius of Steve Cohen. They'll pay half
the salaries or half the money they'll have, and they'll
get a couple of decent prospects. All right, this is
what we're in. We're in for shures for this year
and next. All right, that's fine. We're not spending as
much money, that's fine. And as long as Verre keeps
throwing ninety eight ninety nine on the gun. Yeah, we're
(17:02):
gonna trade both of them, and you're gonna get them,
Frostburg and Fendley, your padres are gonna get You're gonna
eat get your year again. You're gonna get them, and
you're gonna.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Get all of them.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Knuckle sandwich, knuckles sandwich. We're talking pig knuckle sandwich. That
can work in pig knuckle sandwich. But yeah, I mean
they're gonna trade off. They're gonna divest. Uh.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Maybe someone in the organization has some glimmer of hope
when you're beating the hapless defeated White Sox.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Yeah, that's the danger of these kind of series coming
out of the breaks.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
So yeah, we're excited. Look at it. We won.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
We won three out of four, we won four out
of five. Who'ld you beat doesn't matter? Hey, so whoever's
on the schedule. I can't change the wrong victories. I
can't do that makes no difference. Does it really change
your evaluation?
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Hey?
Speaker 4 (17:50):
Man?
Speaker 3 (17:50):
They're wins and we take them up. But the next
couple of weeks highly interesting. A lot of big games
have been bandied about as potentially on the move, including
your pictures from the.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
Men and.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Right, Otani Watch Rules It All and all of the
photoshopped jersey, everything else.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Otani and everybody from the Mets and Padres. That's a
lot of money, that's a lot of big names. They
are gonna be no And I.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Think the fun part of it in the end is
when they just say, hey, look, we unveiled a new
uniform that's we're gonna use for the final two months.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
So everybody that wants an Otani jersey.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Here in in Anaheim, you gotta come to the games
to get it.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
That's the only place get your complitative show. Hey Otani jersey,
give when while you're here. We're live from the Tirack
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doubt that they will trade Otani coming up in the
next couple of weeks. Uh, TJ. Clearly, Otani not just
a hitter, He's not just a pitcher. Okay, We're live
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how the Joelle Embiid interview he gave on Thursday about
I could win in Philadelphia or someplace else didn't get
(19:12):
around the first time. So now, hey, let's make sure
people understand he said that because he wants out from Philadelphia,
and yesterday it happened. It was eight days ago. Talk
about not quite tomorrow's takes tonight, but how about today's
takes last week? And it actually was even before that,
but it was eight days ago where we talked on
the show about Bill Belichick and we said again for
(19:34):
probably the second or third time this offseason, he is
coaching for his life with the Patriots this season. Yeah,
I saw that attributed to show we get that forever
he is coaching for his life. We laid out the
reasons why I told you he's coaching for his life.
What do we get In the last twenty four hours,
Bill Belichick was on the hot seat. Uh, you had
(19:55):
Tom Curran insider with the Patriots Benvilln also insider saying, hey,
there's a lot of stuff going on, and Bill Belichick
is coaching. He's on the hot seat. Wait is he really?
Oh my, hey, we told you this a week and
we've been telling you this.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Well you got the report of the family and everybody
getting all nervous.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Yes, this is it for Belichick. He is absolutely one
coaching for his job. There are so many things that
have happened already that you can tell the momentum is there. Look,
I'll outline it for you again, like we outline it
for you over the course of the last couple of months. Look,
you have the Belichick Bob Craft. Hey, we're not spending
as much as other teams. Bob Craft is very upset.
(20:33):
You already know Bob Craft is upset that they haven't
made the playoffs, having hey, we want to win, we
want to win. So you know he's been antsy for
the last couple of years. The mac Jones and the Hamptons. Pick.
You have Tom Brady and mccordy and mac Jones is
going to a party in the Hamptons. No, Bill Belichick
know nothing. Where's Robert Craft? Yes, exactly, hanging out. Look
all of this. What's been going on, the lack of
(20:55):
any kind of urgency to build a roster, which Belichick
has not done, any urgency to develop mac Jones, the
ridiculous decision to say I don't need an offensive coordinator.
I'm gonna have my defensive coordinator be the offensive coordinator.
He has made horrible decisions the last couple of years.
And now I'll take you one step further. Since we
already told you he was coaching for a job that show,
(21:16):
just give you something else. The biggest blank show in
the NFL this year is going to be the Patriots.
They will be the biggest blank show. You know why
because there's built in interest in what happens here. You
already know the owner and the head coacher at odds,
and you already know that the quarterback is not a
big fan of the head coach. And where Brady had
to fight that battle with him with the two of them,
(21:39):
and he was able to win. Can mac Jones win it? No,
but I think he thinks he can win it. Hey,
I'm the chosen one. I'm the guy that got it
after Tom Brady. Nobody is on the same page. Belichick
has run this team into oblivion the last couple of years,
and now you have every team in the AFC East
is better on paper than they are. The Bills may
take a bit of a step back, but the Bills
(21:59):
are still better than the Patriots. The Jets have taken
a huge step forward, the Dolphins have taken a huge
step forward. What have the Patriots done that's gonna make
you say they've kept up with those teams? Nothing? Well,
hold on to be an absolute blank show with the Patriots,
and it's gonna be circling. Is Belichier gonna make it
the whole season? Is he gonna retire in the middle?
Is he gonna quit? Is he gonna quit so you
can get another job next year and coach someplace else.
(22:20):
That's the kind of blank show. It's gonna be in
New England all season one. And Jared Mayo stuck around,
so you've got that swirling in the background as well.
Defense is still gonna be pretty good. And this allows.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
Me to shoehorn something that happened over the weekend, a
deal that got done, and I heard and I saw
in my timeline a bunch of dope he takes about
it related to well, they couldn't even get DeAndre Hopkins there.
He went to Tennessee. Why would he go to Tennessee
and not New England because Bill O'Brien is on the
staff and trader. Bill's the guy that said blake you
(22:52):
and sent him to Arizona.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Do you think do we remember this people? Do you
think when he went for the visit, they said, Bill, hey,
just just let you know Deandre's coming today. Don't come
out of your office. Make sure nobody sees away DeAndre.
Wait a minute, I think I saw the name plate.
Is Bill O'Brien? No, no, no, no, no no no,
he was asking the coffee machine. I saw him. That
(23:15):
wasn't him, but just a guy that looks like him.
Forget that whole debacle in Houston that said him. I'm
I'm on Google it says that Bill O'Brien's on staff.
No no, no, he's not.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
But like well the fat to fake account, but trying
to use that like all these other things. I could
get on board with saying there's some issues and receiving wise,
you bring in Devontae Parker who was flashed in spots,
he's never become that full guy. You have Juju Smith
Schustra who he's been a Brett Saberhagen great reference here
right on even odd like, let's just go through so
(23:49):
is he the good Juju Smith Schuster this year after
what he did in case he or does he revert
to some of the lower efforts. You brought in Gasiki
from Miami, so who underachieved that.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Let's bring in another under achievement. But it's all they've done.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Well that that was a function of the way they
ran their offense and decided not to use Let's keep.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Bringing into paying the money and actually having them absolutely
disappoint us, but better.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
Henry's been a good red zone guy. He's been pretty good.
Like John hu Smith was an abject failure. But you
bring in Gaseki.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
You've got a pretty good running back in Steven So,
you brought in Time Montgomery, who's a nice kind of
gadget guy as a a runner slash receiver, you've got
some opportunity.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
And Pierre Strong looked pretty good at spots. Offensive line
is pretty good, Your defense is gonna be good.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Look, they're not Arizona or Las Vegas. They're more interesting
because of the history and these built in storylines. But
I don't think they're the blank show that you think
they will be about, because you're also crowning the Jets. Absolutely,
they're still the there's still the Jets. They're not gonna
I'm not saying the Patriots are gonna go oh to sixteen,
although they're gonna start out really horribly because it's Philadelphia, Miami,
(24:59):
the Jet, that's Dallas, New Orleans, Vegas, and Buffalo and
Miami that it's New Orleans. They'll lose to Philadelphia, they
lose to Miami. They'll lose at the Jets. They'll lose
in Miami or in Foxborough. It's it's it's that's in Foxborough. Okay,
they can win that game. But they're gonna starting four
my Philadelphia, Miami, Jets, Dallas. They'll be the Jets. They'll
(25:19):
beat Dallas. Happening. No, No, they're at That game is
at Dallas. Do I'm not gonna win at Dallas. They're
gonna lose all those.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
By that point the season, Dak Prescott's halfway to his
ten intersections and then they.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Have to play Buffalo and Miami again before we get
to the halfway part of the season. So they're going
to be in the second half opens up, let's go.
It's going to be disappointing. They'll be under five hundred,
they'll be in last place in the AFC East, and
it's going to be every day of Is this it
for Bill Belichick in New England? Look at what he said.
He has no problem throwing shade during press coffey if
(25:50):
he's throwing shade in the summer when everything should be fun. Yeah,
we don't spend like we did. Dude, you went on
the biggest spending spree ever and you spend it on
bad people. You have no run this team well at all.
Anybody else would have been fired. But because you're a
genius and you won all these super Bowls with Tom Brady. Hey,
Bill Kraft has said do what you need to do.
And now wait a minute, now we got to take
(26:11):
the car keys from you because dude, you can't do
this anymore. Man. You cannot tell me one thing he's
done that makes you say, yes, Belichick's got it. Belichick
still has it. Tell me there's not one there's not
one big move that he has said. Hey Belichick, he's
look what he's done. He'd be moved on from Brady.
He segued, do it no, he hasn't. He's done nothing.
And you see it's already contentious again. It's gonna be
(26:33):
the biggest blank show all season long in New.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
England's part of this just because you hate the Patriots
in their long standing success as a Jets fan, fueling
some of this.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
That has nothing to do with this, That is irrelevant,
that is that is stricken from the record, that is
not a question that needed to be not allowed in
this courtroom. No contempt, no sir, Yes, fine two thousand
held you in contemp for nine years. It's been about
a decade.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
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we want to do. Here's more Firemanhead eat it, joining
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us down the hot line to break it all down.
No one better. It's got new music apparently here's a
long time NFL insider. You can check him out on
Twitter at Jason Cole sixty two. He is also a
Hall of Very Good voter and also apparently he's moving
on up to something. We have to find out what
(28:12):
it is. Maybe he'll be starring in the sequel to
The Jeffersons. We'll find out right now. Jake Cole new music.
What's up?
Speaker 4 (28:21):
Oh? This is? This is so beautiful. This is my
childhood Norman Lear at his best. Just fantastic stuff. But
it's the fact that I'm appearing before a Thursday or
Friday night, so I feel like I'm moving on up.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Oh okay, good, very good. There Yeah, yeah, there's a
there's a there quick start of this. There's a band
that one of one of my wife and I's favorite
local bands. We saw. This is backtly going back like
twenty years. We would go see them all the time,
and the last song they would do in their content,
they would close their set with the team to the Jeffersons.
(28:59):
And I can tell you how many we're just we're
just hammered. They're going, hey, you guys want to hear
one more song, yelling the Jeffersons. We're just screaming, and
in one time, because we've gone to see a bunch
of the lead singers. He looks out at us and goes, Okay,
Jefferson's up there, one, two, three, as long as we live.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
Awesome, ain't nothing more what we got and we're moving on.
Oh that's so great.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
No people going free bird down.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
We need we need to dance like Sherman Hemsley, because
I will say this, Sherman Hemsley could cut some rug
man that grand could really could really really dance. He
really could. That's a thing I mean. And look, I
know it doesn't probably that show does not translate to
the modern day, but it's in its time like people
were really messed up. Going wait a second, there are
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black people as the lead actors. What are we doing here?
What could it possibly be happening? And they're not, they're
not poor and indigent. What's going on? It blew people's
minds break. It's absolutely everything about it. People don't get
it now, but that was that was amazing television at
the times.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Well glad you moved up, because what will be better
television reruns of The Jeffersons or Hard Knocks this year
because the Jets say, we don't want to show a
lot getting cut.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
Uh, I mean the essential part of Hard Knocks.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
It's going to be soft Knocks, somewhat hard, medium range.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
Knocks, Sherman Knox. Here we go, that's what we'll call it.
Man I I'm sure they want to stay so clear
of anything with Aaron Rodgers and never forget the cuts,
but like, we want less Aaron Rodgers and Hard Knocks
is like no, no, no, this is all Aaron Rodgers,
especially after seeing the success of this Quarterback Show, which
(30:57):
Peyton Manning is now like this is my favorite quote
of the day where Peyton man talks about how how
you know their Netflix is bringing back the Quarterbacks show? Right,
and he goes, I don't want to hear about this,
you know, being a distraction for quarterbacks. It's like Peyton
in your career. You never would have done this ever
because you would have called it a distraction. There's no way.
(31:18):
And now you're like leaning on people because you've got
a little bit of leverage on him. Come on, like
stop it, but it will go on. And yes, Hard
Knox is going to be all Aaron Rodgers and all
Zach Wilson and a few other entertaining moments along the way.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Well you got I mean Zach Wilson's mom still part
of the larger equations. She evidently a prose of his
current girlfriend. I mean, you could get a whole episode
by just doing his entire speech.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
I mean our current girlfriend, his current girlfriend, which she's
known for thirty years. I mean, is that what's happened?
Speaker 1 (31:51):
No, no, no, it's different. That was last year. Come on,
that was last year. That's last year's headline. Come on.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
I mean, if nothing else, you could just play back
all of Rogers comments and Q and A and speech
at the Ayahuasca Psychedelics conference.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
I mean, get a whole episode out of that, y'all.
It's just gonna be. It's gonna be. It's gonna be
Aaron Rodgers saying, Hey, we really don't want this at all,
None of us want this. Just just take the camera
around the corner. I'll be there in like thirty seconds.
Whatever you got, whatever you want to ask, right around
the corner. Whatever you get?
Speaker 4 (32:25):
Quote? What quote do you need from me today?
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Guys just starts yelling line, I have lots of things
I want to say that are all really hot takes.
What do you want from me today? What do you
what do you want me to give you today?
Speaker 4 (32:39):
Zach? Did you open your playbook today? What happened? See?
What do I want to do with practice tomorrow? I'll
let you know. You know?
Speaker 1 (32:53):
And that's the thing. Well, I only promise to be
here for half of them, so I'm taking a day.
That's I thay. Look, I don't think any of the
players care about her knocks. The guy that cares the
most is Robert Salah because he's the guy. I guarantee
he's walking around right now going They're gonna cut it
to make it look like Aaron's the head coach and
I'm just saying yes, and I'm really the head coach
of the defense. They're gonna do to me.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
That doesn't require editor that's just what it is.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
They will fund him. They will fund him. Robert Sala
defensive head coach.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
Yeah, Robert, go stand over there until the defense shows up.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Okay, head coach of the defense. Aaron Rodgers really the
head coach. And there's a.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
Picture they try to do a thing with Nathaniel Hackett
and Rogers just pushes him out of the way.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
I just listened to him over.
Speaker 4 (33:45):
There trying to get some stage time on Hard Knocks.
Now I'm really the head coach. I swear I am good.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
If they really wanted to, you know, the other team
I really want to see. We talked about him a
few minutes ago. Give me the Patriots on Hard Knocks.
Give me that blank show take place all season long
with Belichick hating on Craft and hating on Mac Jones
and everything being horrendous and bad decisions being made. Now,
give me the Patriots on Hard Knocks.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
Uh, I just it's just now because it's so boring
with Bill. I mean, because Bill keeps everything so tight.
You know he's never going to say anything with a
camera in front of him. You just know that that's
how he is. And Bill to be quite honest. When
he's at his best in front of the team, it's
(34:35):
when he's like super sarcastic and you know, making some jokes,
and his sarcasm doesn't translate to it to the general audience.
It comes off as so snarky as to be like
really truly mean spirited, where if you know Belichick, he's
(34:55):
really you know, it's it's meant to be it's meant
to be funny, and it is cutting. You know, there
is a message behind it. But I just don't, like,
I think about listening to Belichick, even the private moments
I've had with him, and I just don't think it
would be all that entertaining unless you are a super
serious football fan and you're like into like history and
(35:20):
knowing why he does things. And that's just not what
Hard Knocks is about. Hard Knocks is about hot tapes.
That's what they do. And you know, or should we say,
shall we just rename it now? Are we just gonna
call it soft knocks?
Speaker 1 (35:32):
You know, we're gonna call it a Summer with Aaron
Rodgers's Oh, that's pretty cool. I like that, my summer
with Aaron quarterback Aaron Rodgers. That's part of the Netflix
saying no, no, it's a new thing to HBO.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
Or call it? Do we call it? Aaron knocks?
Speaker 1 (35:49):
I like what you did there? Should we just have
a companion?
Speaker 3 (35:54):
Showed about the text exchanges of disgruntled running backs.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
That's that's so great. It is so great for those
guys that they are, that they're finally figuring it out,
that that they're they're not getting paid. My favorite though,
was the text by Le'Veon Bell where he talked about
comparing it to a bugs life.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
Yeah, that's good.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
He's one of the ants with And as I was
reading that and thinking about the sort of the economic
understanding of what he's trying to say, like I could
really I could really sense the logic of Robert Reich
and he used to work in the Clinton administration when
we talk about economics often, I thought it was very
much a parallel conversation because I see Robert Reich talking
(36:42):
about a bug's life as he tried to explain economics
to most people.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
So really, there they are the ants, right. Because Box
Office was so dismal.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
I thought you were doing you were going to got
more of the big short and here's Morgo Robbie explaining
how big it's good. There's Margo Robbie in a hot
jump explaining why running backs don't get the low.
Speaker 4 (37:03):
Could you imagine, you know, Le'Veon Bell like giving you
a movie review of the big Shorts, like based on
what you just saw from him today. Because here's the
thing running backs don't understand. Like, the NFLPA sold those
guys out, and I put that on Twitter today. The
(37:23):
NFLPA sold that running backs back in twenty eleven when
they agreed to the rookie wage scale. Because if you
have a guy, you have you have initially a four
year contract, right then you have the fifty year option,
and then you have on top of that, you have
the right to franchise a guy. So yeah, I'm control
(37:44):
of a guy for six years. How many running backs
are any good after six years? Because you know, if
they're decent, they're playing rookie year and they're playing a lot,
and then they go through the meat grinder and they go,
you know somewhere between two hundred and fifty and three hundred.
You know, for three years, they're pretty much done. You know,
they're lucky. If you know they're lucky, if they're is
(38:05):
Ezekiel Elliott and they get to a second contract right away,
and you know, they basically, you know, put some pressure
on the team to give them a new contract. But
most guys, you know, they're just they're done after that
period of time. Even the guys who were in the
second round when's a four year deal with a franchise,
(38:26):
they're pretty much done after the five years. So the
teams don't want to pay those guys on a second contract.
The only solution and the NFLPA, I don't think they
are ever going to have the leverage to do this,
And I'm not sure how long it's going to take
with a new executive director who, by the way, doesn't
have any background in football, right, he has never worked
(38:49):
in the football industry to begin with, for him to
figure out what the pros and cons of the collective
bargaining agreement are, and the fact that you know, you
should be fighting for three year deals so guys get
paid sooner rather than you know, having these the rookie
wage scale the way it is, and I don't know
(39:10):
if they're ever going to get the kind of leverage
that they need to get that kind of deal. Now
that's all technical stuff that fans just don't care about.
But that's why these guys don't don't get paid. And
instead of griping at the teams, you should be griping
at your own union because.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
I feel like for for running backs, they're at the
point where a lot of us get to where, hey,
you love a job that doesn't love you back, right,
because that that's kind of what that's kind of what
it is. This job does not love running backs and
it just doesn't. This is just the way the NFL is.
Speaker 4 (39:39):
No, no, no, no, no, I disagree with that. This
job loves running backs and loves to use them as
mainstays because basically, any good running back is going to
touch the ball on what twenty to twenty five percent
of all your plays throughout a season. He's going to
be involved, and he's going to be and he's going
to be a featured weapon. Even the other times that
(40:02):
he doesn't touch the ball, you're going to fake that.
You're going to get him the ball in other situations. Right,
So we love them, but they also understand we're going
to chew you up and spit you out and that's
just the nature of the game. This is how the
game is played. And if you agree to a system
that allows us to take advantage of that. Why do
(40:23):
you blame us for not paying you like that? The
fault of this is not the teams and the owners.
The fault of this was the people who negotiated the
CBA and gave away too much to create a rookie
wage scale because NFL owners somehow convinced the players it
was a bad idea for rookies to make a lot
(40:45):
of money. What you thought that was a good idea
in a meat grinder sport where most guys don't last
three or four years, you're going to have a system
where guys have to, you know, like work two or
three years before they make their money. Like that's one
of the stupid you know, it's one of the stupidest
things that the union ever agreed to. They should have
(41:06):
just said three year max contracts for rookies. They gotta
get paid right away. That's just the way this works.
Speaker 1 (41:13):
He's on Twitter at Jason Cole sixty two solving the
problems of running backs as we speak.
Speaker 4 (41:20):
And and waiting for Aaron knock yep and j knocks
on the door of the Jefferson's apartment. Could you see
that make sure that's good.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
Heydowa it wady, who is it?
Speaker 4 (41:35):
It's just it's this guy with a mustache and a
beard talking about hyawatska. What is that?
Speaker 1 (41:41):
Take it easy, hi, J Coles.
Speaker 3 (41:44):
Write something about that now. But yeah, I mean Leed
Bell was right right. They're the ants, but not the
ants in A bug Life. It's the competing movie A
Z which did half the box office, like still did
all the same work, like Jim Nance a n t
Z at the end, not time v Woody Allen
Speaker 1 (42:05):
That did literally half the box office of A Bug's Life.
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