July 22, 2023 • 36 mins
Jason Smith and Mike Harmon give you the real reason no one goes to the movies anymore. A Shohei Ohtani HOT TAKE for the ages. A breakdown of the Netflix documentary series Quarterback. Plus, why the Washington Commanders will eventually rebrand and change their name.
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in the night where we watch the Ono Messi's debut,
go as well as could possibly be expected for MLS
to night for the US Women's national team, go some
what okay beating Vietnam, sharing the spotlight with sho Hey
Otani because there was another night for Otani. Watch twenty
twenty three. Wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow.
(01:15):
Is that Keanu Reeves as John Wick doing the uh
Otani watch sounder.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
I was confused.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
That's some inception kind of stuff going on right there.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Listen, I gotta be a I'm scared about going to
see Oppenheim. First of all, I'm scared about two things.
Rapping Oppenheimer, okay, to not Oppenheimer, Toppenheimer. I'm scared. I'm
scared for two things. One, I already know the movie
is too long, right, no matter. I already know the
movie a song because it shows me the whole thing,
and you know, you know how it ends. You know,
obviously we build the bomb and we use it. So
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sorry spoiler, but you know it shows you.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
The whole movie.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
We're getting towards building Botty the ball. Okay, Okay, even
in the trailer, I could tell this song because I'm like, okay,
we build a bomb, it happens, and now, oh wait,
now there's after and there's really old Robert Downey Junior,
and everybody's in the court of law and there's stuff
going on. I'm going the trailer just got too long.
I know the movie's gonna get too long because I
feel like this is this is too long stuff to
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put in the trailer.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
I mean, it's an unbelievable cast.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
I mean, this is an unbelievable who's who of Hollywood
that's in this movie. It's insane. But I'm going this
is just I could already tell it's too long. I'm
ready to I'm ready to walk out on the trailer. Ah,
it's too a lot trailer, too long, too long, right,
you got to old Robert Downey Junior. I could already
tell the movies too long, So I'm worried about that.
For Oppenheimer. The second thing is, really, is it gonna
Can Christopher Nolan tell the straight and long story? Can
(02:34):
he tell a story about here's the guy came up
with the atomic bomb, and here's how it went through,
and here's how I got you? I mean, can you
tell that story? Or does it gotta be somehow here's
an alternative reality, and there's gonna be a spinning coin,
and and we're gonna tell you that maybe this happened,
maybe it did, And here's other people that are gonna
get involved, and people are gonna walk away from the
movie going. I don't I don't know did Oppenheimer invent
the atomic bomb or not? I don't understand. Was it him?
(02:55):
Was it not? Was it somebody else? Then somebody? I
don't get it. I don't understand, Like, can he really
tell us right? I don't know that they could do that.
I don't know they could tell the straight along story. Likely.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
It is a very good point. Before all the press
junkets were stop, no one had to answer questions about
Inception because you had Leo DiCaprio other going I still
don't understand it. I went and acted my part, but
if you want to tell me what was really going on,
I have no idea.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
So look, inception, Inception looked like a Winnie the Pool
movie compared to Tenant.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Well.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
I walked out of that going well, I mean walked
away from that. Watch I'm watch it on at home.
I'm like, what the hell was that? I really, well, yeah,
what the hell is going on?
Speaker 3 (03:39):
But it's one of those you know, you go to
the movies. You know, in theory, you experienced all the
range of emotions that Nicole Kidman tries to talk about
in that ad and some really kind of weird trailers.
Ihead at the Barber movie, but I started thinking about
it with Oppenheimer. I'm like, you know, I got some
time tomorrow, maybe I want to go see that. I
don't know that I want to go sit in We
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no matter how great a movie it might be. Yeah,
Like I like just for to stop down my day.
I'm like, yeah, I think that's heavy stuff, heavy times
in the world. I'm sure the performances are great. I
will have a stop watch off to see exactly how
long Florence Pugh is actually in the movie. Uh. But
it's just the kind of thing where I'm like, how
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excited as great a filmmaker as no one is as
great a history as he has, and again, all of
these acting legends, it's just that one that's I'm saying, Yep,
gotta get there. Except that it was tied to Barbie.
Someone did a great work up of the classic Wish
You Were here out you know with the guy in
the flames shaking hands with the other guy. Yeah, they
(04:43):
did that with Barbie and Oppenheimer.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
So that was kind of cool.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Barpenheimer. Yeah, it's a it's it's it's it's not a
fun movie to see. And this is where look to
get a little bit, to get a little bit deeper
on this second before we get into uh my hot
take on Otani is that people still are not going
back to the movies like they thought we were going to. Right.
The pandemic is long over and the movies are coming up,
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but people are still not going back. When there's an
event for a movie, people will go. And I know
that the box office is hoping and Hollywood is hoping
that a people better go to see Oppenheimer and Barbie
this week, and I really hope they do so, right,
but usually every week people go. But people don't do
it anymore. And because they don't put out good movies. Well,
(05:29):
that's the thing. It's not that they don't put out
good movies. It's that Hollywood me Hollywood used to be
able to put out whatever they wanted to. Here's a
historical drama, here's a really important story, here's a depressing
story about someone who's going to die. And look at
the performances, and you know what, People aren't going to
see those movies anymore. People are saying, I just want
to be entertained. I don't want to go see a
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movie that's going to depress me. And this has been
a trend over the past few years. Hollywood's got to
do two things. Get people coming back to theater. You
got to make the theater and experience where I have
to go there. You can't just say hey, here's popcorn
and some treats and go sit in a seat. No, no, no,
you got to make sure it's an XD theater, or
you get the D box seats, or there's some kind
of food something where you make going to the theater
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a destination that you have to go see this movie there,
because it's it's an event. It's not just going to
the movie. What do you want a massage? Well no, no, no,
But you gotta have people that service all the time.
It's got to be cheaper. It's got to be food
service at your seats, and the food can't be incredibly expensive.
They got to suck it up and say, hey, you
know what, we gotta start catering to the customer. Because
it's easy for us to say, now we'll stay home.
(06:32):
We don't need to come see these movies in your theater.
I can stay home and have whatever snack I want
to and watch on my great big television kind of
down the sacks, right is what you're saying. Gun comfort too.
I can stop and go to the bathroom I get
you need to get me to the theater where I
have to go see it in the theater. And more importantly,
you have to change a fifty year trend of we're
gonna make this movie because we think it's going to
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be great. We look at these performances and you got
to put movies out that people want to go see.
And I'm sorry, but all of these these these stories
that whether they're historical dramas or big time drama, nobody
wants to see them. And you gotta entertain. You gotta
give me some kind of entertainment. I'm not saying every
movie's got to be a popcorn movie, but you can't
just tell me this is an important movie you need
to go see. No, I'm not gonna go see things
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something that depresses me, cause I can see. But I
could see because I could see your philosophy of why
do I want to go see I think I'm just
gonna be depressed. So guess what, I'm not gonna go
see Oppenheimer. And I completely and totally get that. And
there's too many movies like that when there need to
be more movies that people say, I want to go
out and see that movie.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Well, but this leads to the second part of my
treatise of all of this is if I know within
forty five to sixty days it's gonna show up on
one of the streamers, almost without fail, if it's a
movie that I'm eh about, and look, I have no
problem spending money on those things that get me fired up, right,
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that stuff like concert tickets, ball games, when I can
go travel and what we do with kids. But it's
also a all right, that's there's opportunity goss and if
I'm already paying for streaming service X y Z and
I know this is gonna come and look, I'd love
to see you know, the explosions and whatever on a
big screen. But I think I can forego that, you know,
(08:20):
paying for multiple tickets when I know it's going to
stream shortly thereafter. And it may not be a movie
I want to take all in at three hours or
two forty or whatever the run time is at that moment.
It's a commitment of a lot of time and again,
psychologically might not be there. And I'm not casting aspersions
on Oppenheimer in particular. It's just the film going experience
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and a lot of the stuff that is quote unquote
popcorn as you call it, right, the Blockbusters and the
fun just sit back and actually they're terrible films in
a lot of cases, or we would probably just not
use the term film for them at all. It's like
they're terrible movies that were churned out very quickly to
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capitalize on the success of something similar in the genre,
or to make sure if you were going to need
to take a tax right off, you got it into
the proper business calendar year, which is what we've seen
a bunch of So I mean, all of that plays
together to say, you know, people have their opportunities and options,
and when you're putting stuff out in the summer, you're
(09:23):
competing with an awful lot of things. If people had
to travel, we talk about travel, softball, soccer, volleyball, all
that fun stuff. Travel to see your family. Man, it's
not cheap, so something's got to go.
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what do you got Frostberg. They just don't make good
movies anymore. In the nineties, like early twos, like every
week the summer was made for blockbusters. Yeah, every week
(09:59):
something was coming up. The theaters were packed. Yeah, there's
anything to do with that. People aren't going. They're just
not making good movies. No, they're not making enough that
people want to go see. Everything's in remake. That's not
things original anymore. Like how do we just get your money?
Is what they're doing when they put money into a film. Yeah,
and you know, and that's it. And you know what,
there's somebody that I know I can't say her name
because she would get in a lot of trouble, but
(10:19):
there's someone I know, very high up in Hollywood that
that had a very high up in Hollywood job big time.
I would say, the director she worked for you go,
oh my god. And she she told me something I
will never forget, she said, right around the end of
the nineteen nineties, right, and in the early two thousands,
Hollywood always did well because they were always about making movies,
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and they made movies, and the movies made money and
they were great, right, And that's what it was. They
were always about movies and movies made money. But once
she got to the end of the nineteen nineties, it
became all about money and it was no longer about
making movies. And so this is like a twenty year
trend of the movies aren't quite I mean, look at
the movies winning Best Picture. I mean like they I
used to see every single movie that was I gotta see.
(11:02):
I can't tell you the last time I saw all
all the best pictures. I haven't. I know, I haven't years,
I haven't seen absolutely. So Hollywood's become that I trust her,
I'll alwaysmember. Once you get to two thousands, Hollywood became
all about money. And that shows the movies have gone
down a bit, and they don't make movies. They don't
make the movies that they don't make the popcorn movies
that will just get you out there. That's either here's
(11:24):
a fun comedy or here's a fun drama.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Can't do it anymore, No, they did.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
They just don't do those movies.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
You can't lean into comedies because you're gonna offend somebody
along the way.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
So sho goes out that way. But it used to
be every week, yeah to go good movies were coming
out week after week. Yeah, you know, it hit me.
Remember the movie The Judge with Robert Downey Junior. See
that one. Okay, so that was a good movie, right.
Robert Downe Junior is a lawyer. He comes back home
after being away for so long. His dad was a
lawyer in the town for a long time. He's got
to get his dad out of trouble. His dad was
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Robert Duvall. Now was that a great movie?
Speaker 2 (11:59):
No?
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Was it a good, solid two and a half star movie. Yes,
And that was a movie that they made all the
time in the eighties and the nineties that no matter
what came out that week. Oh, this is pretty good movie.
The Judge, Robbie. I'm gonna go see that this weekend.
They don't make those movies anymore. They don't make those.
Oh that seems pretty interesting. I'll go see it. Because
whenever those kind of movies are made, they get they
get shuttled off to streaming, or they just don't find
(12:23):
an audience and it's okay, you know, like like the
Ryan Reynolds gal Gado what was that? What was it?
Red Red Notice? Right like that? Yeah, that would have
been a movie where hey, was it an unbelievably great movie. No,
did it do well on streaming, sure, but if you
put that out in the theaters on a week where
you don't have a blockbuster coming out, a lot of
(12:43):
people would go see that movie. It would get great
word of mouth. Oh, Red Notice was really fun. It was, Yes,
it was fun. Ryan Reynolds was fun. Gal Gado was fun. Yeah,
that was a fun movie. But they don't do that anymore.
Those movies don't come out and that's why the theaters
are empty. Yeah, I'll tell you got the two things.
This is the reason. Make make movies that people want
to see, but make going to the theater a destination.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Yeah, going to Barbie. Earlier, we went to what was
it like, one p thirty showing and it couldn't have
been half full. Now it's projected to do very well
over the weekend and they feel pretty good about it.
But for that, I mean that that was a little
disappointing to see. I mean, you got some great reactions
(13:26):
to some of the one liners, a little setups, so
I mean it worked out pretty well. It got a
little preachy for me at times, but that's okay. It
was a fun time was had by all but again
half full. And then you had the sixty five dollars
Barbie Car popcorn bucket that people were just like, you
want to charge me?
Speaker 1 (13:43):
What for that sixty five bucks? I'd better be the
best popcorn I've ever had in my law.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
You gotta give me an extra bucket on the side,
because you ain't sitting much popcorn into that bucket. It's
like buying the commemorative ones at Disneyland or whatever. It's like, hey,
I'm only get about half the popcorn if I actually
use this thing, So just give me a bucket on
the side. Please.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
You gotta give me one bucket entirely full of butter
so I could drink it if I want to, And
then you give me the popcorn I can throw in there.
Just give me that just glug glug glug glug, because
really death, because that's how you get butter. Come on, dude,
the butter is just a the popcorn is. It's a
vehicle to get the butter into your mouth. I mean,
come on, man, I mean that's let's be honest with
popcorn movies, uh Twitter, And how about a fresco mike
(14:26):
and swalling them? So there you go. I mean say, hey, look,
it's a big conversation to have important stuff people are
talking about all weekend. You know we're the source for
stories like this.
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should be. All right, So I'm gonna hit you with
my show i Otani hot take and then then a
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fun NFL conversation that is just one of those things
that cuts through in a very hot summer week. So
Otani pitched tonight got a standing ovation after giving up
four home runs. I would love that. And of course
ron Otani watched twenty three and every day there's new
stories about what's gonna happen with him. And today we
saw the odds came out, the betting odds came out.
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The Dodgers are the betting favorite if he doesn't stay
with the Angles, which come on, man, they're not gonna
trend with the Dodgers, are John Paul Morosi, friend of
the show, put out today that the Angels are gonna
wait all the way up until the deadline to make
their decision, and why shouldn't they. They want to see
if they can stay in the playoff race before they
make a decision to trade Otani. Right, So here's my
(16:15):
hot take right because now, and this is why you're
gonna like it, because I know we're on opposite sides,
and I, Ohtani's gotta go, and you say Otani's gonna stay.
When I see the strategy that is thrown out there.
That here's John Paul who said the Angels are gonna
wait all the way up until the deadline before they
make a decision. In theory, that sounds great, right, it's
(16:37):
what you should be doing. Right, Let's wait. Let's give
our team as much of a chance as possible. We
got a little bit less than two weeks to go
till the deadline. Let's see if we can win a
few games, get over five hundred, stay over five hundred,
and just be within striking distance. But what if and
I'm giving you a what if here? What if this
is the Angel's plan is to go all the way
up to the end and then say, oh, we can't
(17:01):
put a trade together. Yeah, we gotta keep them right
because they want to be able to satisfy everybody. Because
this is what you have to do in sports nowadays.
You can't just do something for a team. You got
to make sure you sell the optic as well. And
are the Angels really going to trade him, because what
they can say is, hey, we're waiting till the end
of the deadline to get something done. Okay, that's fine,
(17:21):
I get that, But how complicated this deal gonna be
for Showe Otani. It's really complicated because the team is
gonna give up prospects knowing if he's gonna sign with
them or not. How are you gonna know if you're
waiting till the last final hours before the deadline, what
you can give up for Otani? While are we renting him?
Are we not? Is he gonna want to come here?
Do we think he's gonna want to stay? We'll give
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up prospects for him if we think he's gonna stay.
And in the end, it's just gonna be too difficult
to do. And the Angels don't have any intention at
all of trading Otani, but they want to make it
seem like they're covering all their bases. We want to
give the team a chance to stay in it, but
if they can't, we'll look to trade him. But oh, look,
it's too late, it's too difficult to put a trade together.
(18:03):
We're going to keep him for the rest of the season.
That I can see that sort of conspiracy theory about.
We're only going to make it seem like we want
to trade Otani. That's something I can seem like, No.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
That's it. I mean because look, part of the analysis
is we've thought about this the last couple of weeks.
Is just getting down to the what what makes it
look okay? Like, what's the package got to be coming
back that you can say, all right, I can take
this to my fans and say, all right, hope with
a capital H, as opposed to running it out and
(18:36):
hoping that we can still have a shot at Otani
in the off season. That's part of part of the
process here, and looking at yourself in the mirror as well.
You know what, I traded him away for Jags. Maybe
that guy could be just got a bunch of guys
like that guy could be a maybe he becomes an
(18:57):
everyday starter, but is he a future all start. No,
that's the best package we got. Now, that's it, Because look,
you've got very few teams that can get into the
rental business as well, because when we start talking about
the trades, you know they've got to give up something
significant to bring them in. I mean, the Angels aren't
just gonna say all right, well it's been a it's
(19:17):
been a good ride. See you later. And so if
you're looking at it from a can we re sign
him aspect? How many teams are eliminated from consideration before
you really have a legitimate conversation other than the Hey,
it's Jim down here in Tampa. How you doing, buddy.
You know, that's kind of what we get with a
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lot of the conversations because there's no money to pay
these guys, you know, in a lot of would be contenders.
Tell me the Orioles or the the Rays are all
all in to go over the top, the way they
build their teams, the way they have have spent money historically,
and to say, all right, we're gonna take the shot
that he wants to stay here and that the pitching
(20:01):
woes that he's had of late thirteen inar and runs
allowed over his last three starts, including a blister issue,
are settling going to magically disappear while going to pitch
down the Pennant stretch, say in the al East, that's
gonna help you? I don't think so. So, yeah, I'm
glad you're kind of shifting back in my general direction.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Can you imagine the Yankees trading Fortani and then he
can't pitch because of a blister.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
No, there's it. He can't pitch because of the blister,
and then the blister's bad enough, perhaps that it keeps
him out of the lineuph and Aaron Judge, they keep
going back and forth. You want to talk about a
swinging pendulum. This is Miley Cyrus riding the wrecking ball
in her video. Aaron Boone and.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Now all officials.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
I don't know, he's close, maybe he's not so close.
Maybe we see him, maybe we don't. I don't know.
Is he gonna come back or not? Can we at
least get a sense that you just pull out the
magic eight ball?
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Yeah? No, Look but dad, I can see the angels saying,
we only want to make it seem like we're gonna
do it because we're not doing our due diligence as
a franchise. If we wind up losing a bunch of games,
that we don't trade him right because fans are fans,
and the media and our team is gonna say why
didn't we get something for him when we could have? Right,
we want we want to make it seem like we're
trying to, but we're really not. And no matter what
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the end results gonna be he's gonna stay an Angel
because only make it seem like we want to do it.
Now that I could say it's a little conspiracy theory,
but that I can see, I can see the Angels
having that kind of strategy.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
Oh no, it's it's it's a pretty good strategy. Look,
we listen to offers, and I mean, look, I don't
want to embarrass any of my fellow gms out there,
but are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? The
leftover promotional items from last year are not getting Otani
to your town. I'm sorry.
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Speaker 1 (21:55):
I started watching Quarterback on Netflix right which has gotten
a lot of but you know, it was done a
couple months ago, but it's just starting to get a
lot of momentum now. It's the number two show on
all of Netflix for the last couple of weeks. And
in case you haven't seen it, it's a show that's
followed on the twenty twenty two season three Quarterbacks, Patrick Mahomes,
Kirk Cousins, and Marcus Mariota. And for anybody who says, Oh,
(22:18):
Hard Knocks is gonna be such a distraction. Cameras followed
these guys around all year. Pretty sure, Kirk Cousins had
a great year. Pretty sure Patrick Mahomes won the Super Bowl.
So I think it's gonna be okay for the Jets. Maria, Well,
and that's the thing is that this show is so
good because what it does is it's able to show
(22:40):
you who these people are in different ways. Right, So,
and I know you've seen a little bit of it
as well. I'm about halfway through. About halfway through. What
they do is it's you know, it's a documentary and
they take you through, here's Mahomes surrounding and what's going
on in his life, surrounding these couple of games and
everything else. Patrick Mahomes is exactly who you think is
(23:00):
right on on the field. Because the best part of
Mahomes is they mike him up for a lot of stuff,
so you hear a lot of what he says, a
lot of the back and forth that happens with Mahomes
on the field, and it's exactly what you think he is, right.
He's someone that's not afraid to go back and forth.
He'll trash talk a little bit off the field. He's
got the life of an absolute superstar. But Mahomes is
(23:20):
exactly what you're like, Hey, is he is he that
good a guy?
Speaker 3 (23:23):
He is?
Speaker 1 (23:24):
He seemed like that good of guy. Yes he does, right,
he seems like that. But the but the stuff on
the field, with how much trash talk he has, that's
really interesting because they go through they found what was
the best part of that, and that was, Hey, Mahomes
on the field, that's gold, right, all the stuff he
is saying, all the stuff he's going back and forth.
There's a scene there, there's a there's a big part
of an episode where it's him going back and forth
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with Max Crosby and the Raiders during a game. That
is just so interesting. And Mahomes exactly, like I said,
Mahomes exactly who you think he is. And that's interesting.
Kirk Cousins is fascinating. He is fat, because he's weird,
he's he's a little awkward, and it's just he's Him
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and his wife are like, we're just regular people. And
she says, look, we shop at Target, we shop at
Costco and and and that's kind of our lives. And
here's the shirt Kirk Cousins is wearing. I thought this
was a nice fall shirt for him to wear, so
I want him to wear that opening week. So when
he does a press conference after, that's the shirt he's wearing.
It's got fall colors in it, and it's it's orange
and it's and it's yellow. And when Cousins talks to
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the camera, like I said, he comes across, it's a
little weird. He's a little awkward. He just says things
that are on his mind. Like he gets he gets
a big hit in the game and he's laying down
there and and and the the crew is coming out
to look at him. The doctors. He says, Oh, that's
what they get for playing one on one coverage on
the outside. Like he says stuff that's like wow, just
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whatever pops into his head. He says, it's so incredibly interesting.
You will have a much different view of Kirk Cousins
than you do now, right because you've you you think
Kirk Cousins as the you like that guy, the guy
that used the Jets to get the big contract from
the Vikings. But just seeing him and seeing how he
plays quarterback and and how every moment he kind of
drinks in and he thinks that something big is happening
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here has got all this memorabilia from his entire career
in a hidden room in his house. It's fascinating. This
is I'm like, wow, I can't believe you know, the
Mahomes Is fact because it's it's a different story from
Mahomes and it's a different story for Kirk Cousins. And
I'm watching him going, this is not at all the
guy that has the image out there. Nobody ever is
the image that you see, but Kirk Cousins, like the
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the general fan watching this go, Man, I think completely
different about Kirk Cousins that I did before.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
Well, and I think Captain Kirk's one of those interesting
guys right because he's had some beliefs and conversations that
have made folks a little uncomfortable in the past, right
when you start getting into religion and down that. I mean,
some folks rebel against any conversations of that sort. But
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he's a guy that, much like Matthew Stafford during his
time in Detroit, quarterbacks have been picking up for him
for a long time, talking about, you know, how much
better he is than what the public and the media
would portray him as in terms of his quarterbacking, the
guy you know from all reports has always just been
(26:23):
a stand up guy in the community, and they've been
engaged in and been as normal as you can possibly
be while being you know, the face on every billboard
floating around. So I think it's it's fascinating what we
can get down here. I haven't gotten too deep into
the Mariota stuff. I think that's kind of interesting that
you have cousins who, because of contracts, you always will
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be mad about how he used your Jets Mahomes dominance
that Mariota is the guy that makes the third place
on the metal stand here just the much different path
as it flows into twenty twenty three. But hey, more
competition to this space is a good thing, which is
why the Jets were absolutely forced to do hard knocks
this year. Hey, Peyton Manning in company because it's funny,
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and I know this has probably already been said, but
you know it's it's in the vacuum here. Peyton Manning
would have never let a camera anywhere near him.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Oh no, of course, not no, no, no, no, but.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Right, I mean Tony Dungee and Peyton Manning would have
had no and Marvin, Come on, Marvin, those three guys,
you ain't get any cameras around there to document what
you're doing now.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
But you know, but you bring up Mariota. And the
thing about Mariota is every time I see him on screen,
I just feel awful for him, right, Like you could
tell that, like everything going on with him is it's
a struggle. It's a struggle to stay in the NFL.
It's a struggle to stay a starting quarterback. It's a struggle.
I could tell he has trouble with his confidence. You're
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seeing everything going on from the past year, you just
feel bad. I feel awful for the guy. Like every
time he comes on, I go, uh, here's Mario. I
just want to give him a hug. And you know,
I know what's coming him leaving the team and I
haven't gotten to that yet, but I'm just I'm Mariota.
It's like it's three completely different stories, and it's three
completely different ways to look at quarterbacks, and you have
those emotions going on every single guy you see, and
(28:18):
it's absolutely fascinating. Like I don't know that this isn't
something that they shouldn't have every year, Like I'd want
to see this for three guys every single year. You know,
take one star, take one middle of the pack, and
take one guy who's trying to hang on and and
give me that. And that's what they're giving you, right,
even though you know how it turns out. The story
about it is like I said, it's fascinating and I
mean it. You watch Mariota just go oh, it just
(28:40):
feels so bad for the just feels so awful.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Well, but I mean it does show though, if you're
willing to put a little bit of resources into it,
and nowadays you don't need massive crews and everything like
you might have at one point. It's it's a lot
more streamline. You can do a number of these stories.
And you got year round programming man.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
You know who, Jason, you know who can be the
guy that's just hanging on for this season. Zach Wilson.
Aaron Rodgers, Noo, he's the star. He's the star. They
could follow Aaron, make it easier and make money because
it's it's easy to make do Aaron Rodgers and Daniel Jones, right,
you know two guys with Daniel Jones, Kirk cuts kind
interesting and then you have a guy trying to hold out.
(29:21):
You have like Desmond Ritter or someone who was taking
over there, or Sam Howell or or one of those guys.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Sam.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
I'm telling you, man, it's a great show. Great show. Yeah,
just take my homes off.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
I know anything's cheap, cheaps related. It's like they were
listening to the show last night. For the National Sports
Collector's Convention, Joe Montana was supposed to be signing autographs
at one of the days and he gets a pretty
penny to do it. He has canceled his appearance.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
And has said it was Joe Montagna who was signing autographs.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Hey, I was watching the Criminal Minds reboot. Nice he
gets to curse there. Hey I saw a House of Games?
You signing, Joe Montana House of Games? Thank you, I
appreciate you. I think Twitter at about a FRESC.
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turnover of the Washington Commanders from Daniel Snyder to Josh Harris.
And yesterday we spent a lot of time talking about
Daniel Snyder and he still get six billion dollars. But
sometimes this is what winning looks like. They got rid
of a bad guy and a bad owner, and now
they're talking about what are the odds that they will
change their name. Josh Harris says, we're not gonna talk
(31:16):
about that right now, but they are going to try
to bring back the glory days of the franchise, and
those glory days weren't as the Washington Commanders like this
is this is what he's saying. They've done a lot
of research looking into things, and they're gonna make a
lot of changes, which awesome, right you should sure and
getting rid of the commanders, Yes, you want to get
rid of everything that's gonna be connoted or connected with
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the Dane.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
I want a whole new era, right, you want a
whole new Wikipedia page like you're a brand new team.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Yeah, we don't want and no one's gonna want commanders Gear.
No one's gonna want. I want to remember it. No,
no one's gonna win.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
I didn't want Commanders Gear now, No, No, they really didn't.
They did because they knew it was a placeholder, even
before the legal ease and the rapid fire to get
him out. I don't think anybody was buying in that
that was a long term solution to anything.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
We were the.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Washington TBAs That's yeah, pretty much it. Yeah. But you're
going to see them rebrand and change their name, and
you see all the trigger words that Josh Harris is
using as far as Glory Days research, and they're going
to find a new name and they're going to have
a new nickname probably in the next year. The NFL
(32:27):
is going to say, yes, of course, we want to
distance ourselves from Daniel Snyder. So, yeah, that's what we're doing.
But this is going to open the door. And I'll
give you this big bull prediction. This is going to
open the door. And in the next five years you
are going to see a lot of pro sports franchises,
whether they change hands into new, younger owners with different ideas,
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or just teams that are looking for a perk of
some kind. You're going to see a lot of teams
put in and file to change their nicknames. Whether it's
from a merch perspective, Hey, listen, we're not selling any
merchandise anymore. I don't know if the nickname has become stale.
We need something that connects us more to the city
that we live in, and we're going to have a
(33:08):
new nickname. But there's not going to be anything that's
off the table. There's nothing that's off the table in
sports anymore. And what's not going to be off the
table is changing your nickname, especially if a new owner
comes in, going yeah, this nickname, We've done the research,
it's not really connecting. We know if we change the
name to something else that it's going to be a
bigger deal for us. It'll be a bigger thing for
(33:29):
the city. It'll be it'll help us sell more merchandise,
it'll give us more relevancy. You're going to see more
teams change their names and change their nicknames for both
of those reasons money connecting to the city and making
something a little bit fresher, and getting away from a
bad era of sports. Like if the whole Clippers sale
happened now and Steve Balmer bought the Clippers. Let's say
(33:50):
that the Donald Sterling things happens this year and Steve
Balmer bought the Clippers. You know what happened. He would
buy the Clippers and would say, we're changing our name.
We're not going to because Clippers is associated with Donald
Sterling and a lot of bad stuff. We're gonna change
our nickname. We're gonna be the La something else. That's
what happened if he bought the team now. So just
think about that coming up in the next few years,
where yeah, teams are gonna change hands and you're gonna
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see nicknames change as well.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
Yeah, I think when you get down to it, you know,
the money part always runs in first, right. New merch
That's why we have random combinations of jerseys and helmets
and here's our superstars to model for you what they're
gonna look like. We're bringing back the cream skulls. But
we had a day off, doesn't matter. Get in here,
get them, model them up, and let's get selling. So
(34:35):
wherever you can find extra revenue streams. Yeah, you're gonna
go down that path if you've got a long standing
era of futility, like say Aaron Rodgers fails miserably.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
All right, j Now you want to talk about fiction,
But okay, I'll indulge you.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
You know what, just stay with me. You know, past performance,
I know is not indicative and necessarily reflective and predictive
of future behavior because you know people can suddenly. You
can change, I can change. But just say the Jets
suck again. Woody Johnson made decide, you know what, that's it.
Like Aaron Rodgers came in, we couldn't even get over.
(35:12):
I had to use a practical example, and what better
one than that? But certainly there, as you change team owners,
you want it all to be about you and your
vision for things. And what better way just getting rid
of a coach in GM or shuffling up some players.
This is my quarterback. Look I'm in the draft room.
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That's not enough anymore. I like it, the cachet of
being able to rename it. We've had some force, just
like the commanders and their former nickname had to be
changed as society did. Others will just because they become
stale and boring.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
Twitter At how about a Fresco, Mike get swollen down.
There are no more sacred can no more Jets. Hey, Hey,
if they win, I don't care what they're called. They
could be the New York New Yorkers and I wouldn't
give a crap. We won, we won, I wouldn't care.
I really wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
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go as well as could possibly be expected for MLS
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what okay beating Vietnam, sharing the spotlight with sho Hey
Otani because there was another night for Otani. Watch twenty
twenty three. Wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow.
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Is that Keanu Reeves as John Wick doing the uh
Otani watch sounder.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
I was confused.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
That's some inception kind of stuff going on right there.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Listen, I gotta be a I'm scared about going to
see Oppenheim. First of all, I'm scared about two things.
Rapping Oppenheimer, okay, to not Oppenheimer, Toppenheimer. I'm scared. I'm
scared for two things. One, I already know the movie
is too long, right, no matter. I already know the
movie a song because it shows me the whole thing,
and you know, you know how it ends. You know,
obviously we build the bomb and we use it. So
(01:46):
sorry spoiler, but you know it shows you.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
The whole movie.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
We're getting towards building Botty the ball. Okay, Okay, even
in the trailer, I could tell this song because I'm like, okay,
we build a bomb, it happens, and now, oh wait,
now there's after and there's really old Robert Downey Junior,
and everybody's in the court of law and there's stuff
going on. I'm going the trailer just got too long.
I know the movie's gonna get too long because I
feel like this is this is too long stuff to
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put in the trailer.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
I mean, it's an unbelievable cast.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
I mean, this is an unbelievable who's who of Hollywood
that's in this movie. It's insane. But I'm going this
is just I could already tell it's too long. I'm
ready to I'm ready to walk out on the trailer. Ah,
it's too a lot trailer, too long, too long, right,
you got to old Robert Downey Junior. I could already
tell the movies too long, So I'm worried about that.
For Oppenheimer. The second thing is, really, is it gonna
Can Christopher Nolan tell the straight and long story? Can
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he tell a story about here's the guy came up
with the atomic bomb, and here's how it went through,
and here's how I got you? I mean, can you
tell that story? Or does it gotta be somehow here's
an alternative reality, and there's gonna be a spinning coin,
and and we're gonna tell you that maybe this happened,
maybe it did, And here's other people that are gonna
get involved, and people are gonna walk away from the
movie going. I don't I don't know did Oppenheimer invent
the atomic bomb or not? I don't understand. Was it him?
(02:55):
Was it not? Was it somebody else? Then somebody? I
don't get it. I don't understand, Like, can he really
tell us right? I don't know that they could do that.
I don't know they could tell the straight along story. Likely.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
It is a very good point. Before all the press
junkets were stop, no one had to answer questions about
Inception because you had Leo DiCaprio other going I still
don't understand it. I went and acted my part, but
if you want to tell me what was really going on,
I have no idea.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
So look, inception, Inception looked like a Winnie the Pool
movie compared to Tenant.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Well.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
I walked out of that going well, I mean walked
away from that. Watch I'm watch it on at home.
I'm like, what the hell was that? I really, well, yeah,
what the hell is going on?
Speaker 3 (03:39):
But it's one of those you know, you go to
the movies. You know, in theory, you experienced all the
range of emotions that Nicole Kidman tries to talk about
in that ad and some really kind of weird trailers.
Ihead at the Barber movie, but I started thinking about
it with Oppenheimer. I'm like, you know, I got some
time tomorrow, maybe I want to go see that. I
don't know that I want to go sit in We
(04:00):
no matter how great a movie it might be. Yeah,
Like I like just for to stop down my day.
I'm like, yeah, I think that's heavy stuff, heavy times
in the world. I'm sure the performances are great. I
will have a stop watch off to see exactly how
long Florence Pugh is actually in the movie. Uh. But
it's just the kind of thing where I'm like, how
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excited as great a filmmaker as no one is as
great a history as he has, and again, all of
these acting legends, it's just that one that's I'm saying, Yep,
gotta get there. Except that it was tied to Barbie.
Someone did a great work up of the classic Wish
You Were here out you know with the guy in
the flames shaking hands with the other guy. Yeah, they
(04:43):
did that with Barbie and Oppenheimer.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
So that was kind of cool.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Barpenheimer. Yeah, it's a it's it's it's it's not a
fun movie to see. And this is where look to
get a little bit, to get a little bit deeper
on this second before we get into uh my hot
take on Otani is that people still are not going
back to the movies like they thought we were going to. Right.
The pandemic is long over and the movies are coming up,
(05:09):
but people are still not going back. When there's an
event for a movie, people will go. And I know
that the box office is hoping and Hollywood is hoping
that a people better go to see Oppenheimer and Barbie
this week, and I really hope they do so, right,
but usually every week people go. But people don't do
it anymore. And because they don't put out good movies. Well,
(05:29):
that's the thing. It's not that they don't put out
good movies. It's that Hollywood me Hollywood used to be
able to put out whatever they wanted to. Here's a
historical drama, here's a really important story, here's a depressing
story about someone who's going to die. And look at
the performances, and you know what, People aren't going to
see those movies anymore. People are saying, I just want
to be entertained. I don't want to go see a
(05:50):
movie that's going to depress me. And this has been
a trend over the past few years. Hollywood's got to
do two things. Get people coming back to theater. You
got to make the theater and experience where I have
to go there. You can't just say hey, here's popcorn
and some treats and go sit in a seat. No, no, no,
you got to make sure it's an XD theater, or
you get the D box seats, or there's some kind
of food something where you make going to the theater
(06:11):
a destination that you have to go see this movie there,
because it's it's an event. It's not just going to
the movie. What do you want a massage? Well no, no, no,
But you gotta have people that service all the time.
It's got to be cheaper. It's got to be food
service at your seats, and the food can't be incredibly expensive.
They got to suck it up and say, hey, you
know what, we gotta start catering to the customer. Because
it's easy for us to say, now we'll stay home.
(06:32):
We don't need to come see these movies in your theater.
I can stay home and have whatever snack I want
to and watch on my great big television kind of
down the sacks, right is what you're saying. Gun comfort too.
I can stop and go to the bathroom I get
you need to get me to the theater where I
have to go see it in the theater. And more importantly,
you have to change a fifty year trend of we're
gonna make this movie because we think it's going to
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be great. We look at these performances and you got
to put movies out that people want to go see.
And I'm sorry, but all of these these these stories
that whether they're historical dramas or big time drama, nobody
wants to see them. And you gotta entertain. You gotta
give me some kind of entertainment. I'm not saying every
movie's got to be a popcorn movie, but you can't
just tell me this is an important movie you need
to go see. No, I'm not gonna go see things
(07:13):
something that depresses me, cause I can see. But I
could see because I could see your philosophy of why
do I want to go see I think I'm just
gonna be depressed. So guess what, I'm not gonna go
see Oppenheimer. And I completely and totally get that. And
there's too many movies like that when there need to
be more movies that people say, I want to go
out and see that movie.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Well, but this leads to the second part of my
treatise of all of this is if I know within
forty five to sixty days it's gonna show up on
one of the streamers, almost without fail, if it's a
movie that I'm eh about, and look, I have no
problem spending money on those things that get me fired up, right,
(07:56):
that stuff like concert tickets, ball games, when I can
go travel and what we do with kids. But it's
also a all right, that's there's opportunity goss and if
I'm already paying for streaming service X y Z and
I know this is gonna come and look, I'd love
to see you know, the explosions and whatever on a
big screen. But I think I can forego that, you know,
(08:20):
paying for multiple tickets when I know it's going to
stream shortly thereafter. And it may not be a movie
I want to take all in at three hours or
two forty or whatever the run time is at that moment.
It's a commitment of a lot of time and again,
psychologically might not be there. And I'm not casting aspersions
on Oppenheimer in particular. It's just the film going experience
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and a lot of the stuff that is quote unquote
popcorn as you call it, right, the Blockbusters and the
fun just sit back and actually they're terrible films in
a lot of cases, or we would probably just not
use the term film for them at all. It's like
they're terrible movies that were churned out very quickly to
(09:02):
capitalize on the success of something similar in the genre,
or to make sure if you were going to need
to take a tax right off, you got it into
the proper business calendar year, which is what we've seen
a bunch of So I mean, all of that plays
together to say, you know, people have their opportunities and options,
and when you're putting stuff out in the summer, you're
(09:23):
competing with an awful lot of things. If people had
to travel, we talk about travel, softball, soccer, volleyball, all
that fun stuff. Travel to see your family. Man, it's
not cheap, so something's got to go.
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what do you got Frostberg. They just don't make good
movies anymore. In the nineties, like early twos, like every
week the summer was made for blockbusters. Yeah, every week
(09:59):
something was coming up. The theaters were packed. Yeah, there's
anything to do with that. People aren't going. They're just
not making good movies. No, they're not making enough that
people want to go see. Everything's in remake. That's not
things original anymore. Like how do we just get your money?
Is what they're doing when they put money into a film. Yeah,
and you know, and that's it. And you know what,
there's somebody that I know I can't say her name
because she would get in a lot of trouble, but
(10:19):
there's someone I know, very high up in Hollywood that
that had a very high up in Hollywood job big time.
I would say, the director she worked for you go,
oh my god. And she she told me something I
will never forget, she said, right around the end of
the nineteen nineties, right, and in the early two thousands,
Hollywood always did well because they were always about making movies,
(10:40):
and they made movies, and the movies made money and
they were great, right, And that's what it was. They
were always about movies and movies made money. But once
she got to the end of the nineteen nineties, it
became all about money and it was no longer about
making movies. And so this is like a twenty year
trend of the movies aren't quite I mean, look at
the movies winning Best Picture. I mean like they I
used to see every single movie that was I gotta see.
(11:02):
I can't tell you the last time I saw all
all the best pictures. I haven't. I know, I haven't years,
I haven't seen absolutely. So Hollywood's become that I trust her,
I'll alwaysmember. Once you get to two thousands, Hollywood became
all about money. And that shows the movies have gone
down a bit, and they don't make movies. They don't
make the movies that they don't make the popcorn movies
that will just get you out there. That's either here's
(11:24):
a fun comedy or here's a fun drama.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Can't do it anymore, No, they did.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
They just don't do those movies.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
You can't lean into comedies because you're gonna offend somebody
along the way.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
So sho goes out that way. But it used to
be every week, yeah to go good movies were coming
out week after week. Yeah, you know, it hit me.
Remember the movie The Judge with Robert Downey Junior. See
that one. Okay, so that was a good movie, right.
Robert Downe Junior is a lawyer. He comes back home
after being away for so long. His dad was a
lawyer in the town for a long time. He's got
to get his dad out of trouble. His dad was
(11:55):
Robert Duvall. Now was that a great movie?
Speaker 2 (11:59):
No?
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Was it a good, solid two and a half star movie. Yes,
And that was a movie that they made all the
time in the eighties and the nineties that no matter
what came out that week. Oh, this is pretty good movie.
The Judge, Robbie. I'm gonna go see that this weekend.
They don't make those movies anymore. They don't make those.
Oh that seems pretty interesting. I'll go see it. Because
whenever those kind of movies are made, they get they
get shuttled off to streaming, or they just don't find
(12:23):
an audience and it's okay, you know, like like the
Ryan Reynolds gal Gado what was that? What was it?
Red Red Notice? Right like that? Yeah, that would have
been a movie where hey, was it an unbelievably great movie. No,
did it do well on streaming, sure, but if you
put that out in the theaters on a week where
you don't have a blockbuster coming out, a lot of
(12:43):
people would go see that movie. It would get great
word of mouth. Oh, Red Notice was really fun. It was, Yes,
it was fun. Ryan Reynolds was fun. Gal Gado was fun. Yeah,
that was a fun movie. But they don't do that anymore.
Those movies don't come out and that's why the theaters
are empty. Yeah, I'll tell you got the two things.
This is the reason. Make make movies that people want
to see, but make going to the theater a destination.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Yeah, going to Barbie. Earlier, we went to what was
it like, one p thirty showing and it couldn't have
been half full. Now it's projected to do very well
over the weekend and they feel pretty good about it.
But for that, I mean that that was a little
disappointing to see. I mean, you got some great reactions
(13:26):
to some of the one liners, a little setups, so
I mean it worked out pretty well. It got a
little preachy for me at times, but that's okay. It
was a fun time was had by all but again
half full. And then you had the sixty five dollars
Barbie Car popcorn bucket that people were just like, you
want to charge me?
Speaker 1 (13:43):
What for that sixty five bucks? I'd better be the
best popcorn I've ever had in my law.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
You gotta give me an extra bucket on the side,
because you ain't sitting much popcorn into that bucket. It's
like buying the commemorative ones at Disneyland or whatever. It's like, hey,
I'm only get about half the popcorn if I actually
use this thing, So just give me a bucket on
the side. Please.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
You gotta give me one bucket entirely full of butter
so I could drink it if I want to, And
then you give me the popcorn I can throw in there.
Just give me that just glug glug glug glug, because
really death, because that's how you get butter. Come on, dude,
the butter is just a the popcorn is. It's a
vehicle to get the butter into your mouth. I mean,
come on, man, I mean that's let's be honest with
popcorn movies, uh Twitter, And how about a fresco mike
(14:26):
and swalling them? So there you go. I mean say, hey, look,
it's a big conversation to have important stuff people are
talking about all weekend. You know we're the source for
stories like this.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
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my show i Otani hot take and then then a
(15:33):
fun NFL conversation that is just one of those things
that cuts through in a very hot summer week. So
Otani pitched tonight got a standing ovation after giving up
four home runs. I would love that. And of course
ron Otani watched twenty three and every day there's new
stories about what's gonna happen with him. And today we
saw the odds came out, the betting odds came out.
(15:53):
The Dodgers are the betting favorite if he doesn't stay
with the Angles, which come on, man, they're not gonna
trend with the Dodgers, are John Paul Morosi, friend of
the show, put out today that the Angels are gonna
wait all the way up until the deadline to make
their decision, and why shouldn't they. They want to see
if they can stay in the playoff race before they
make a decision to trade Otani. Right, So here's my
(16:15):
hot take right because now, and this is why you're
gonna like it, because I know we're on opposite sides,
and I, Ohtani's gotta go, and you say Otani's gonna stay.
When I see the strategy that is thrown out there.
That here's John Paul who said the Angels are gonna
wait all the way up until the deadline before they
make a decision. In theory, that sounds great, right, it's
(16:37):
what you should be doing. Right, Let's wait. Let's give
our team as much of a chance as possible. We
got a little bit less than two weeks to go
till the deadline. Let's see if we can win a
few games, get over five hundred, stay over five hundred,
and just be within striking distance. But what if and
I'm giving you a what if here? What if this
is the Angel's plan is to go all the way
up to the end and then say, oh, we can't
(17:01):
put a trade together. Yeah, we gotta keep them right
because they want to be able to satisfy everybody. Because
this is what you have to do in sports nowadays.
You can't just do something for a team. You got
to make sure you sell the optic as well. And
are the Angels really going to trade him, because what
they can say is, hey, we're waiting till the end
of the deadline to get something done. Okay, that's fine,
(17:21):
I get that, But how complicated this deal gonna be
for Showe Otani. It's really complicated because the team is
gonna give up prospects knowing if he's gonna sign with
them or not. How are you gonna know if you're
waiting till the last final hours before the deadline, what
you can give up for Otani? While are we renting him?
Are we not? Is he gonna want to come here?
Do we think he's gonna want to stay? We'll give
(17:42):
up prospects for him if we think he's gonna stay.
And in the end, it's just gonna be too difficult
to do. And the Angels don't have any intention at
all of trading Otani, but they want to make it
seem like they're covering all their bases. We want to
give the team a chance to stay in it, but
if they can't, we'll look to trade him. But oh, look,
it's too late, it's too difficult to put a trade together.
(18:03):
We're going to keep him for the rest of the season.
That I can see that sort of conspiracy theory about.
We're only going to make it seem like we want
to trade Otani. That's something I can seem like, No.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
That's it. I mean because look, part of the analysis
is we've thought about this the last couple of weeks.
Is just getting down to the what what makes it
look okay? Like, what's the package got to be coming
back that you can say, all right, I can take
this to my fans and say, all right, hope with
a capital H, as opposed to running it out and
(18:36):
hoping that we can still have a shot at Otani
in the off season. That's part of part of the
process here, and looking at yourself in the mirror as well.
You know what, I traded him away for Jags. Maybe
that guy could be just got a bunch of guys
like that guy could be a maybe he becomes an
(18:57):
everyday starter, but is he a future all start. No,
that's the best package we got. Now, that's it, Because look,
you've got very few teams that can get into the
rental business as well, because when we start talking about
the trades, you know they've got to give up something
significant to bring them in. I mean, the Angels aren't
just gonna say all right, well it's been a it's
(19:17):
been a good ride. See you later. And so if
you're looking at it from a can we re sign
him aspect? How many teams are eliminated from consideration before
you really have a legitimate conversation other than the Hey,
it's Jim down here in Tampa. How you doing, buddy.
You know, that's kind of what we get with a
(19:39):
lot of the conversations because there's no money to pay
these guys, you know, in a lot of would be contenders.
Tell me the Orioles or the the Rays are all
all in to go over the top, the way they
build their teams, the way they have have spent money historically,
and to say, all right, we're gonna take the shot
that he wants to stay here and that the pitching
(20:01):
woes that he's had of late thirteen inar and runs
allowed over his last three starts, including a blister issue,
are settling going to magically disappear while going to pitch
down the Pennant stretch, say in the al East, that's
gonna help you? I don't think so. So, yeah, I'm
glad you're kind of shifting back in my general direction.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Can you imagine the Yankees trading Fortani and then he
can't pitch because of a blister.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
No, there's it. He can't pitch because of the blister,
and then the blister's bad enough, perhaps that it keeps
him out of the lineuph and Aaron Judge, they keep
going back and forth. You want to talk about a
swinging pendulum. This is Miley Cyrus riding the wrecking ball
in her video. Aaron Boone and.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Now all officials.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
I don't know, he's close, maybe he's not so close.
Maybe we see him, maybe we don't. I don't know.
Is he gonna come back or not? Can we at
least get a sense that you just pull out the
magic eight ball?
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Yeah? No, Look but dad, I can see the angels saying,
we only want to make it seem like we're gonna
do it because we're not doing our due diligence as
a franchise. If we wind up losing a bunch of games,
that we don't trade him right because fans are fans,
and the media and our team is gonna say why
didn't we get something for him when we could have? Right,
we want we want to make it seem like we're
trying to, but we're really not. And no matter what
(21:19):
the end results gonna be he's gonna stay an Angel
because only make it seem like we want to do it.
Now that I could say it's a little conspiracy theory,
but that I can see, I can see the Angels
having that kind of strategy.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
Oh no, it's it's it's a pretty good strategy. Look,
we listen to offers, and I mean, look, I don't
want to embarrass any of my fellow gms out there,
but are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? The
leftover promotional items from last year are not getting Otani
to your town. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
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Speaker 1 (21:55):
I started watching Quarterback on Netflix right which has gotten
a lot of but you know, it was done a
couple months ago, but it's just starting to get a
lot of momentum now. It's the number two show on
all of Netflix for the last couple of weeks. And
in case you haven't seen it, it's a show that's
followed on the twenty twenty two season three Quarterbacks, Patrick Mahomes,
Kirk Cousins, and Marcus Mariota. And for anybody who says, Oh,
(22:18):
Hard Knocks is gonna be such a distraction. Cameras followed
these guys around all year. Pretty sure, Kirk Cousins had
a great year. Pretty sure Patrick Mahomes won the Super Bowl.
So I think it's gonna be okay for the Jets. Maria, Well,
and that's the thing is that this show is so
good because what it does is it's able to show
(22:40):
you who these people are in different ways. Right, So,
and I know you've seen a little bit of it
as well. I'm about halfway through. About halfway through. What
they do is it's you know, it's a documentary and
they take you through, here's Mahomes surrounding and what's going
on in his life, surrounding these couple of games and
everything else. Patrick Mahomes is exactly who you think is
(23:00):
right on on the field. Because the best part of
Mahomes is they mike him up for a lot of stuff,
so you hear a lot of what he says, a
lot of the back and forth that happens with Mahomes
on the field, and it's exactly what you think he is, right.
He's someone that's not afraid to go back and forth.
He'll trash talk a little bit off the field. He's
got the life of an absolute superstar. But Mahomes is
(23:20):
exactly what you're like, Hey, is he is he that
good a guy?
Speaker 3 (23:23):
He is?
Speaker 1 (23:24):
He seemed like that good of guy. Yes he does, right,
he seems like that. But the but the stuff on
the field, with how much trash talk he has, that's
really interesting because they go through they found what was
the best part of that, and that was, Hey, Mahomes
on the field, that's gold, right, all the stuff he
is saying, all the stuff he's going back and forth.
There's a scene there, there's a there's a big part
of an episode where it's him going back and forth
(23:45):
with Max Crosby and the Raiders during a game. That
is just so interesting. And Mahomes exactly, like I said,
Mahomes exactly who you think he is. And that's interesting.
Kirk Cousins is fascinating. He is fat, because he's weird,
he's he's a little awkward, and it's just he's Him
(24:05):
and his wife are like, we're just regular people. And
she says, look, we shop at Target, we shop at
Costco and and and that's kind of our lives. And
here's the shirt Kirk Cousins is wearing. I thought this
was a nice fall shirt for him to wear, so
I want him to wear that opening week. So when
he does a press conference after, that's the shirt he's wearing.
It's got fall colors in it, and it's it's orange
and it's and it's yellow. And when Cousins talks to
(24:28):
the camera, like I said, he comes across, it's a
little weird. He's a little awkward. He just says things
that are on his mind. Like he gets he gets
a big hit in the game and he's laying down
there and and and the the crew is coming out
to look at him. The doctors. He says, Oh, that's
what they get for playing one on one coverage on
the outside. Like he says stuff that's like wow, just
(24:51):
whatever pops into his head. He says, it's so incredibly interesting.
You will have a much different view of Kirk Cousins
than you do now, right because you've you you think
Kirk Cousins as the you like that guy, the guy
that used the Jets to get the big contract from
the Vikings. But just seeing him and seeing how he
plays quarterback and and how every moment he kind of
drinks in and he thinks that something big is happening
(25:13):
here has got all this memorabilia from his entire career
in a hidden room in his house. It's fascinating. This
is I'm like, wow, I can't believe you know, the
Mahomes Is fact because it's it's a different story from
Mahomes and it's a different story for Kirk Cousins. And
I'm watching him going, this is not at all the
guy that has the image out there. Nobody ever is
the image that you see, but Kirk Cousins, like the
(25:36):
the general fan watching this go, Man, I think completely
different about Kirk Cousins that I did before.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
Well, and I think Captain Kirk's one of those interesting
guys right because he's had some beliefs and conversations that
have made folks a little uncomfortable in the past, right
when you start getting into religion and down that. I mean,
some folks rebel against any conversations of that sort. But
(26:02):
he's a guy that, much like Matthew Stafford during his
time in Detroit, quarterbacks have been picking up for him
for a long time, talking about, you know, how much
better he is than what the public and the media
would portray him as in terms of his quarterbacking, the
guy you know from all reports has always just been
(26:23):
a stand up guy in the community, and they've been
engaged in and been as normal as you can possibly
be while being you know, the face on every billboard
floating around. So I think it's it's fascinating what we
can get down here. I haven't gotten too deep into
the Mariota stuff. I think that's kind of interesting that
you have cousins who, because of contracts, you always will
(26:47):
be mad about how he used your Jets Mahomes dominance
that Mariota is the guy that makes the third place
on the metal stand here just the much different path
as it flows into twenty twenty three. But hey, more
competition to this space is a good thing, which is
why the Jets were absolutely forced to do hard knocks
this year. Hey, Peyton Manning in company because it's funny,
(27:10):
and I know this has probably already been said, but
you know it's it's in the vacuum here. Peyton Manning
would have never let a camera anywhere near him.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Oh no, of course, not no, no, no, no, but.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Right, I mean Tony Dungee and Peyton Manning would have
had no and Marvin, Come on, Marvin, those three guys,
you ain't get any cameras around there to document what
you're doing now.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
But you know, but you bring up Mariota. And the
thing about Mariota is every time I see him on screen,
I just feel awful for him, right, Like you could
tell that, like everything going on with him is it's
a struggle. It's a struggle to stay in the NFL.
It's a struggle to stay a starting quarterback. It's a struggle.
I could tell he has trouble with his confidence. You're
(27:56):
seeing everything going on from the past year, you just
feel bad. I feel awful for the guy. Like every
time he comes on, I go, uh, here's Mario. I
just want to give him a hug. And you know,
I know what's coming him leaving the team and I
haven't gotten to that yet, but I'm just I'm Mariota.
It's like it's three completely different stories, and it's three
completely different ways to look at quarterbacks, and you have
those emotions going on every single guy you see, and
(28:18):
it's absolutely fascinating. Like I don't know that this isn't
something that they shouldn't have every year, Like I'd want
to see this for three guys every single year. You know,
take one star, take one middle of the pack, and
take one guy who's trying to hang on and and
give me that. And that's what they're giving you, right,
even though you know how it turns out. The story
about it is like I said, it's fascinating and I
mean it. You watch Mariota just go oh, it just
(28:40):
feels so bad for the just feels so awful.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Well, but I mean it does show though, if you're
willing to put a little bit of resources into it,
and nowadays you don't need massive crews and everything like
you might have at one point. It's it's a lot
more streamline. You can do a number of these stories.
And you got year round programming man.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
You know who, Jason, you know who can be the
guy that's just hanging on for this season. Zach Wilson.
Aaron Rodgers, Noo, he's the star. He's the star. They
could follow Aaron, make it easier and make money because
it's it's easy to make do Aaron Rodgers and Daniel Jones, right,
you know two guys with Daniel Jones, Kirk cuts kind
interesting and then you have a guy trying to hold out.
(29:21):
You have like Desmond Ritter or someone who was taking
over there, or Sam Howell or or one of those guys.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Sam.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
I'm telling you, man, it's a great show. Great show. Yeah,
just take my homes off.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
I know anything's cheap, cheaps related. It's like they were
listening to the show last night. For the National Sports
Collector's Convention, Joe Montana was supposed to be signing autographs
at one of the days and he gets a pretty
penny to do it. He has canceled his appearance.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
And has said it was Joe Montagna who was signing autographs.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Hey, I was watching the Criminal Minds reboot. Nice he
gets to curse there. Hey I saw a House of Games?
You signing, Joe Montana House of Games? Thank you, I
appreciate you. I think Twitter at about a FRESC.
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But straight ahead, we are going to enter a new
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Speaker 2 (30:22):
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Speaker 1 (30:32):
This is a song I could do without. Come on
Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with my best
friend Mike Harmon. I'm talking to you. The biggest NFL
story the last twenty four hours clearly has been the
(30:54):
turnover of the Washington Commanders from Daniel Snyder to Josh Harris.
And yesterday we spent a lot of time talking about
Daniel Snyder and he still get six billion dollars. But
sometimes this is what winning looks like. They got rid
of a bad guy and a bad owner, and now
they're talking about what are the odds that they will
change their name. Josh Harris says, we're not gonna talk
(31:16):
about that right now, but they are going to try
to bring back the glory days of the franchise, and
those glory days weren't as the Washington Commanders like this
is this is what he's saying. They've done a lot
of research looking into things, and they're gonna make a
lot of changes, which awesome, right you should sure and
getting rid of the commanders, Yes, you want to get
rid of everything that's gonna be connoted or connected with
(31:40):
the Dane.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
I want a whole new era, right, you want a
whole new Wikipedia page like you're a brand new team.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Yeah, we don't want and no one's gonna want commanders Gear.
No one's gonna want. I want to remember it. No,
no one's gonna win.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
I didn't want Commanders Gear now, No, No, they really didn't.
They did because they knew it was a placeholder, even
before the legal ease and the rapid fire to get
him out. I don't think anybody was buying in that
that was a long term solution to anything.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
We were the.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Washington TBAs That's yeah, pretty much it. Yeah. But you're
going to see them rebrand and change their name, and
you see all the trigger words that Josh Harris is
using as far as Glory Days research, and they're going
to find a new name and they're going to have
a new nickname probably in the next year. The NFL
(32:27):
is going to say, yes, of course, we want to
distance ourselves from Daniel Snyder. So, yeah, that's what we're doing.
But this is going to open the door. And I'll
give you this big bull prediction. This is going to
open the door. And in the next five years you
are going to see a lot of pro sports franchises,
whether they change hands into new, younger owners with different ideas,
(32:47):
or just teams that are looking for a perk of
some kind. You're going to see a lot of teams
put in and file to change their nicknames. Whether it's
from a merch perspective, Hey, listen, we're not selling any
merchandise anymore. I don't know if the nickname has become stale.
We need something that connects us more to the city
that we live in, and we're going to have a
(33:08):
new nickname. But there's not going to be anything that's
off the table. There's nothing that's off the table in
sports anymore. And what's not going to be off the
table is changing your nickname, especially if a new owner
comes in, going yeah, this nickname, We've done the research,
it's not really connecting. We know if we change the
name to something else that it's going to be a
bigger deal for us. It'll be a bigger thing for
(33:29):
the city. It'll be it'll help us sell more merchandise,
it'll give us more relevancy. You're going to see more
teams change their names and change their nicknames for both
of those reasons money connecting to the city and making
something a little bit fresher, and getting away from a
bad era of sports. Like if the whole Clippers sale
happened now and Steve Balmer bought the Clippers. Let's say
(33:50):
that the Donald Sterling things happens this year and Steve
Balmer bought the Clippers. You know what happened. He would
buy the Clippers and would say, we're changing our name.
We're not going to because Clippers is associated with Donald
Sterling and a lot of bad stuff. We're gonna change
our nickname. We're gonna be the La something else. That's
what happened if he bought the team now. So just
think about that coming up in the next few years,
where yeah, teams are gonna change hands and you're gonna
(34:12):
see nicknames change as well.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
Yeah, I think when you get down to it, you know,
the money part always runs in first, right. New merch
That's why we have random combinations of jerseys and helmets
and here's our superstars to model for you what they're
gonna look like. We're bringing back the cream skulls. But
we had a day off, doesn't matter. Get in here,
get them, model them up, and let's get selling. So
(34:35):
wherever you can find extra revenue streams. Yeah, you're gonna
go down that path if you've got a long standing
era of futility, like say Aaron Rodgers fails miserably.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
All right, j Now you want to talk about fiction,
But okay, I'll indulge you.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
You know what, just stay with me. You know, past performance,
I know is not indicative and necessarily reflective and predictive
of future behavior because you know people can suddenly. You
can change, I can change. But just say the Jets
suck again. Woody Johnson made decide, you know what, that's it.
Like Aaron Rodgers came in, we couldn't even get over.
(35:12):
I had to use a practical example, and what better
one than that? But certainly there, as you change team owners,
you want it all to be about you and your
vision for things. And what better way just getting rid
of a coach in GM or shuffling up some players.
This is my quarterback. Look I'm in the draft room.
(35:33):
That's not enough anymore. I like it, the cachet of
being able to rename it. We've had some force, just
like the commanders and their former nickname had to be
changed as society did. Others will just because they become
stale and boring.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
Twitter At how about a Fresco, Mike get swollen down.
There are no more sacred can no more Jets. Hey, Hey,
if they win, I don't care what they're called. They
could be the New York New Yorkers and I wouldn't
give a crap. We won, we won, I wouldn't care.
I really wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
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Speaker 1 (36:06):
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