July 22, 2023 • 35 mins
Jason Smith and Mike Harmon breakdown the Women’s World Cup first half between USA and Vietnam. The guys react to Lionel Messi’s game winning goal in his Inter Miami debut. And NFL Insider Jordan Schultz swings by for all the big headlines from around the league.
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Speaker 1 (00:28):
Well the night that soccer has taken over Leono Messi
into Miami one one in the eighty seventh minute. But
more importantly, at least for right now, the United States
leading Vietnam just two nothing at halftime in their World
Cup opener. I'm not saying I'm nervous, Mike Carmen, because
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I do want to. I do understand that. Look, this
is a new team, a lot of new faces. The
first half of the first game is going to be
a little different. They're not going to be quite as
sharp as they're expected to be. But if we get
to the seventy fifth minute and it's kind of still
like this and the United States looks like they're having trouble,
then I'll be a little nervous because you know, we
talked about it last night. The biggest thing is gonna
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be scoring goals. You know, can the United States when
it gets not games like here? Obviously Vietnam they can't
even get the ball past midfield. So I'm not too
I'm not too concerned about this game. But overall, when
you talk about advancing, we need some people that can
put the ball in the back of the net. And
as you can see by the first half, is Alex
Morgan still elite? I don't know. Sophia Smith, who's got
two goals in the United States, may be the most
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important player on the US women's national team because somebody
else is gonna have to score. Rapino's gonna play limited minutes.
Who knows how good Alex Morgan still really is. She
might be the most important player. She's got two goals
to start, so for her great start everybody else. Let's
see how the second half goes.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Yeah, I mean Alex Morgan picking up where Saint Clair
left off yesterday.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
With your favorite player with a.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Terrible penalty straight up the gut. So even if the
goalie guess is completely wrong, it's the length of her
body to stop it in the middle of the well.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
She'd do if she just fell to one side, Like,
that's what I would do. I would pick a side
and just fall to one side. I would have made
that save. I would just fall into that side.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Yeah, so you get to save there a couple of chances,
a couple of There was a ball in the twenty
eighth minute, and you know that was just wide, a
bit of an impossible angle for the shot that that
Morgan had taken. But you know, all in all, you know,
you're also playing against the defense that you're you're packing
it in like you're you're battling Derrick Henry or all
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of the goal line.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
We know where it's going.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Yeah, well, I mean you got to overcome that. But
a lot of dribble as opposed to connecting passes and setups.
We'll see what happens second half. Five shots on goal
to Vietnam zero. I mean, they had virtually no possession.
I'd love to see the top for the first half.
But you know, the second half, different leg. You get
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to go back in and you know, have your vocal
ranting session of what all went wrong? Because really I mean,
you're a five and a half goal favorite. Let's go.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Yeah. Look, that's what I don't want to panic too
early because everybody else wants to panic right now. Why nothing, Why.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
It's hot takes theater?
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Yeah, it's it's forty five minutes, and I want to
give them this the halftime. Let's settle down again. A
lot of a lot of players making their debuts here,
and this is a little bit different. Even though you
get to the World Cup, it's still a little bit
different than the friendlies and the prep games going forward
all this stuff. So I want to give them a
little bit. I want to see if they're a little
bit sharper in the second half, see if they're able
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to to to really start connecting on things. But the
teams are just going to get better. I mean this
is a team like look, you saw the play by
play in the first half, Vietnam is just hoping to.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Score a goal in the world to get big run
hoping to score a goal. Well you saw it near
the what was it the ninth minute of extra time?
How ridiculous was that? Like ten and a half minutes
extra Yeah, but they had one big run out and
I was like, uh, here you go. Yeah, they're just oh,
it just takes one, right, It takes one breakdown defensively,
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one misjudging of a ball in the air, and and
you got chaos and Susan Will that was swept away
without much fanfare thereafter. But you know, in the moment
when you're you're not taking control and not putting the
ball in the back, and that I can't say they
didn't have control. They just didn't finish.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
No, And again, Vietnam is packing the box. It is.
It is a little more difficult, but this is still
you're talking about You're an eight and a half goal favorite, right,
five and a half, five and a half the favorite.
This is, I mean, this is a This is a
pretty big deal. And in the end, is it gonna
wind up something like five or six nothing? Probably? And
are there some good things going to be to take
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away from this game? Yeah, But overall, the overall sense,
and what you and I have talked about for a
while is that this is not the same United States
team coming into this World Cup. That hey, we're just
gonna roll over everybody. If we have one tough game
along the way, that's gonna be that's gonna be it
for us. Everything else should be pretty easy. This is
not that team. This is new players. Because we saw
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that he in the Olympics. It was we weren't fast enough,
We got tired the older players. There's been no big
ramp up of the younger generation so far. They're all
getting used to things. Not having Mallory Swanson is a
really big deal because she's somebody would score a lot
of goals. That's gonna be the thing. And I see
this World Cup going where, look, no one's gonna dominate
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the United States. But could I see a lot of
once you get to the bigger games in the knockout stage,
could I see a lot of games zero zero and
teams playing and maybe it being like an even kind
of game, and teams playing for penalties where anything can happen. Yeah,
I could see games where the United States gives up
a big run. When you have a team with an
elite scorer that that can hit the put the ball
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in the back of the net. I can see them
losing one nothing and then the other team's packing the box.
So it's it's not about now. It's not about this
game again Vietnam, because like I said, I don't know
how how many times Vietnam gonna get the ball passed
midfield in the second half?
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Three times? Four times? Yeah, inside thirty yards? Yeah, I
think you got one.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Yeah yeah. And they're gonna get tired. And look, Rose
Levell is gonna come in the second half, and so
is Megan Rapino, So you have to think that their
leadership is going to settle things a little bit. And
Lavell is just about getting her wind back. And for Repino,
you know, she's gonna be in limited minutes because this
is a retirement tour. She's only gonna play probably fifteen
to twenty minutes a night. But you know that that's
where I expect to see a little bit better sharper
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play for the United States. But this ain't gonna be
a cakewalk. This ain't gonna be hey, back to back
to back to back. Look how great we are. We
have two teams that can compete in the World Cup.
That's not the case. Now. This is a team that's
going to struggle to put the ball in the back
of the net. And as as rough a first half
as it was for Alex Morgan, who got a complete
break on Sophia Smith's second goal because she was offside.
(06:52):
I don't know what. Yeah, they were looking at I'm like, oh,
we're not getting that she's off side. Oh no, we're
getting the goal. Oh great, yay, do nothing to nothing.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Yeah. It's like they called the reset after the ball
got popped out, yeah or something. I don't know it.
It's it's almost like you were playing make it, take it. Yeah,
I got past the free throw and make you know
you could be wherever you need to be. Got the
ball got back out there. But I mean you talk
about and and injuries are part of the game for
every nation, no question about it. But you don't have Macario,
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who you thought might have been, you know, ready to
ramp up to this point. Uh not their sour run press.
Uh you mentioned Swanson. I mean you're missing a lot
of firepower. Uh. So trying to bring it together and
the and the way it works when you you have
just a couple of weeks together because of the NWSL,
(07:45):
You know that that's part of it that plays in
as well. Jason. I mean, they have a couple of
weeks together, especially when you're integrating so many young players,
and it's not quite so simple, uh to get that
flow and again you're packing the box, uh Vietnam, to
do anything you can to just keep the bleeding at
a trickle here and then give yourself a puncher's chance.
(08:06):
So curious to see what second half brings for us,
but certainly an uneven kind of weird. I mean Alex
Morgan getting stopped out a penalty, I mean you, I mean,
I'm sure Steve Seger was like, hey, it's coal m m.
It jinks her too. That's right, head out that the
Sager jinks.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
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team could have used in the first half is Leonel Messi,
who of course is making his MLS debut tonight. Oh goodness,
(08:45):
in the League's Cup. Yeah, for Inter Miami. He comes
into the game, he comes off the bench and right
away they give up the lead. No, I can't believe it.
He's overrated.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Oh this Cup's minus took.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
A hit, however, on a free kick probably about ten
yards outside the box middle of the field. Messi has
just scored in the ninety third minute to give Inner
Miami the two to one lead. Right now, he's taking
a victory lap. The stands are insane.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
It was some kind of again about ten feet behind,
uh the eighteen and it's a left footed curl and
they cut to David Beckham on the sideline, who's like, yeah,
how I did it? I mean, this is this is
Messi is going on. It's like when Ripken played in
twenty six thirty two and he's high fiving all the
fans around the field. That's what Messi is doing right now. Hey,
(09:38):
great getting horses.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
That's him. I mean that that's a beautiful shot to
the upper west inside the upper post right there. Man.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
That is wow.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
You can't you can't write it any better than that.
Woo man. And they're wearing pink uniforms in celebration of
the Barbie release.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Yeah, well sure, sure, yeah. I gotta say though those
I really don't like the callers. I don't like the
jersey with the it's too formal. What do you know
about faustas don't I don't like the call and now
and now the game is over, Messi scoring in the
final minute over inner, Miami wins. Already, Hey, worth every
penny scrypted, worth every penny for all.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Look at that. I like that for every scripted. You
can't write it any better than that. One thing to
note though, that right before game time, remember how much
people were spending for like a block of four seats
you know, midfield whatever to get in in the final
fifteen minutes before kickoff was like one hundred and fifty bucks.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Yeah, but if you wanted to go, if you wanted
to sit next to David Beckham, it was you know,
a thousand dollars, right, But.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
If you just wanted to be in for the moment,
like it was hyped like it was the most expensive
thing ever, and really it wasn't.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Yeah, well, well but.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
The priceless sandwiches and shame on, dude, I bought yesterday.
You could have gotten in to see Messi plays. Dude.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Ticket companies don't say, hey, come by. They're really low
and there's no fees. No, they got a kind of
jaging no no.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
But that's why I was cautioning against it, because we
did the story. I was like, all right, this is
some bad journalism because everybody likes the shocking headline when
reality was if you just wanted to get in this,
you know, for the price of a cup of.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Coffee, worth every penny.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
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Speaker 1 (11:32):
Still at least six minutes left to go in the
United States's first game of the Women's World Cup against Vietnam,
nine extra minutes at least of extra time, USA leads
Vietnam three. Nothing bit of a shocker eye opener for
a lot of people that this was not a more
(11:53):
dominant victory on the scoreboard. And we'll have more on
this game coming up in about twenty minutes as we
break down just where we sit after night one, am.
I gonna tell you, Mike, my army right away. I
don't feel any different than I did last night.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Yeah, you're you're a bit more nervous than I am
in this process, feeling out some opportunities, miss stuff to
clean up again. You know, you got a shortened turnaround.
Back together, right, everybody off with their NWSL teams, you're inconvene. Uh,
and then you know you're getting your treatment. You're missing
a lot of injured players, so you're substituting a lot
(12:27):
of young players. We know that the core of the squad,
the names that we're familiar with. For many of them,
this is, you know, gonna be their last run. So
part of it is gonna be a little bit of
pacing and and they've dominated the game, right, It's one
of those Hey, you dominated, you just didn't put the
ball in the back of the net. And I know
that's the end game and and the plenty of losses
(12:50):
have piled up over that, but they will survive. You're
Alex Morgan problem after she missed and had that penalty, Yeah,
wiped away.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Yeah, very difficult.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Because I think we're still there's still no shots for Vietnam,
are there?
Speaker 1 (13:03):
No? No, no, no, there are no shots.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Did they ever get passed? I don't know the third
dark green stripe of lawn?
Speaker 1 (13:11):
I mean, ah ah, I actually did see a listen
to their play one ball, so I think that that
did happen.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
But was it a shot on goal or just you know, oh.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
No, I think it was actually it was actually a
fan return the ball to the field. Actually, I think
that's what it was. So we'll have more on this
game coming up in a few minutes here live from the
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(13:43):
world tonight Leono Messi's MLS debut for Inner Miami against
Cruz Azul in the League's Cup, and it was everything
you'd expect it to be. The stands were full, Beckham
was there, so many luminaries and Messi coming off the
bench right away Inner Miami gives up the lead. Overrated,
(14:04):
get rid of him, he's not worth it. But then
late in the game, in fact, there was only a
minute and a half played after this, it was a
free kick for Inner Miami about ten yards outside of
the eighteen, and of course Messi is taking it, and
of course this was the result.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Here it is messy any other way.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Apple TV on the call. Wait, I didn't get out
watching baseball and that was on Apple TV yes, Apple TV.
On the call, Messy curls it in just inside the post,
a left footed free kick inner Miami wins it two
to one. The celebrate after he's walking around giving high
fives to people, getting congratulatory hand shakes. It's almost it's
(15:06):
almost like everybody decided, Okay, that was pretty sweet. It's
Messy in the MLS, and wow, we need we gotta
take a minute, we gotta take him in. And everybody understands.
All right, you know, it was a big thing. Every
everybody's going crazy. The fans were going nuts. Let's taken
it and let it happen. It was a long and
elongated celebration. And about a minute after that they blew
the final whistle and in Milan and Messi's debut wins
(15:27):
a two to one, and of course he wins it
with that goal on the free kick. That was pretty sweet.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Well, you know, some would say, I mean, it's a
Hollywood kind of thing. Writers are on strike, but the
sporting world, you can't know.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
You can't know. You're not allowed to say it's a
Hollywood thing. When the writers are on strike. You can't
do that. You're not allowed to. I have to report
you now I have to call Mandy Patinkin and I'm
going to tell you, Hey, this is what Mike Harmon said.
You're gonna be in a lot of trouble, isn't it.
Fran Dresher.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Comes at you aggressively. She's got the title, he's he
can he gets kind of menacing when he starts talking.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Yeah, but the nanny's voice will get you. Man.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
No, there's no question about that punishment. I mean, look,
you had a great convergence of all the UK stars,
right with Haley Atwell, who Jason said was too much
in Mission Impossible.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
You're hanging out with Brian Cox. He's been it too much.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
I mean that's kind of cool. But yeah, it was
a rocket shot something tight shirt and that we're talking
about before. I mean, that's like ninety nine point. I
don't even think there's room for air. I think it's
a full one hundred goal.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
I mean, it really is something. And to see the reaction,
right because now we're gonna get something pretty big here,
is that sometimes you can understand that there is a
sea change going on in the sports world, and sometimes
we think it's there, but it's not, And then we
think it's there but it's not. And we think it's
there again, but it's not. But within the next few years,
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within the next five years, I would say we're going
to be talking about the four major sports again, because
you and I growing up the four major sports all
the way into the nineties into the early two thousand
and for baseball, football, basketball, hockey. Right, those are the
four major sports, the ones that got all the television contracts.
And yeah, you watch tennis or golf when they were on,
but the baseball, football, basketball, hockey. Now what happened. Hockey's
(17:17):
fallen off in a large way and now it barely rates,
which look, it sucks because you and I are both
big hockey fans, but I understand what's happened to the sport.
And boy, Gary Bettman just as hey do it such
a great job taking it from one of the four
major sports too. Hey, anybody want to televise our games? Anybody,
anybody at all? But right now is that moment for
(17:39):
soccer in the United States? And you could say it
kind of goes back to the Lynn and Donovan goal
against Algeria and the twenty eleven World Cup that that
kind of that was the awakening, right that would you
kind of say that was the force awakening, that, hey,
you see how much we care about soccer. But still
the next few World Cups, it was, well, we care
about the men in the World Cup. We care about
the women in the World Cup. The women are winning.
(18:00):
But now it just seems like this is soccer's time
in the United States, and and and when you look
at everything happening with the the the overall attention the
MLS is thriving. I mean they are, you know, some
team setting attendance records every single year. The MLS has
never been better. You have the successive shows now like
(18:21):
ted Lasso and Welcome to Wrexham, which you're a big
deal that hey, these are shows that people are consuming. Yes,
ted Lasso is a comedy and it happens to take
place in the world of soccer, but it's still a
soccer comedy. Welcome to wrection them to show about a
soccer team and Bleeping whales Man and okay, but it's
still it's still something that has cut through it and
gains a lot of attention. And now when you throw
(18:43):
in Leono Messi, who is now at the MLS in
the right time, David Beckham showed up. It was a
little too early, and maybe that kind of started a
little bit, That kind of started the spark, but it
really didn't hit until you get to twenty eleven in
landon Donovan and now that Messi here, every game is
going to be a traveling circus show. Wherever Messi's gonna play,
(19:05):
whether he plays road games or not, but every game
that he plays is going to be an event. It's
going to be a big thing. And at thirty six
he's still here. He's still gonna be able to dominate
for at least another couple of years. Looks lot time
came over when you thought his career was over and
what he played like sixty five MLS games, had sixty
seven goals, something insane like that. The guy was amazing.
(19:27):
But Messi is just a different kind of superstar. It's
a whole other level. You're talking about arguably the biggest
superstar in the world who is now playing soccer in
the United States. Everything he does is going to gain attention.
The highlights are going to be on television all the time.
It's going to be talked about. Messi's going to be debated,
what his impact is going to be this is soccer's
(19:48):
time now, and in the next five years, it's gonna
be baseball, football, basketball, soccer, and it's gonna be NFL, NBA,
MLB and MLS. And I would say MLS is gonna
expect but I want to say soccer rather than just MLS,
because sure, as big as it's going to be, you
still have the women's national team and the men's national
team that gains a lot of attention to play important
(20:08):
tournaments like the Gold Cup and other friendlies getting ready
for the World Cup. We get it every couple of years,
so it gets a little bit bigger than MLS. But
get ready because that's what we're that's where we're at.
We're gonna have the four major sports again within the
next five years. Of soccer is going to be that
fourth sport.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Yeah, I mean, we talk about demographic shifts. We talked
about it a little bit last night, the eyeballs, the
investment because we keep talking about live sports being that
last bastion of Hey, I have to watch it. It's
not binge watching later. It's not wait till tomorrow, no, no, no,
I have to The immediacy of it is there, so
ad sales and the money that goes into each league
(20:48):
and then trickle down back into the college game when
we start talking about conferences and everything that it all
flows together. I think with Messi, I'm really glad he scored, though, Jason,
because otherwise, you know what the headline was, Hey, Lebron
James showed up to see MESSI play. I told hey,
injected himself into the damn news again. You told me
(21:09):
I was wrong. He's done for a while. No, there
he is.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
No, you're right, you're right, and it would have been
all Messi doesn't score. It's Lebron's fault that that would
have been.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
That would have been good.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
It would have been the thing. Oh, it's Lebron. MESSI
was gonna be fun. But Lebron shows up and now
that's not there. You're right, you're right, you're right.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
There's no question about it. You know they'll get you.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
I mean, she showed up, Jason, and he already came
off the bench.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Was Tom Brady there?
Speaker 1 (21:34):
I didn't even start because she showed up. Yeah, no,
I listen, I can't start until Kim Kardashian's interseat. And
I know it's gonna be a little while, so I'll
come off the bench. I'm fine.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Well, I mean, because everybody has to admire as she
goes by.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
What do you think, guys, is it safe to say
he's already the greatest MLS player ever?
Speaker 2 (21:49):
I think I think it would not be too big
a hot take to do that. In the reaction to this.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
I remember when Beckham debuted and how big a deal
it was. But I you know, I just don't think
he's you know what, he's gonna remember that. Here's how
it's gonna go down. You're gonna talk about that the
biggest stars in the MLS and looks a lot time
is probably the third biggest star to ever play in
the m LS. You're gonna look at David Beckham as
the conduit, the guy who kind of opened the door
(22:15):
a little bit for soccer's popularity. But the guy that
that that broke the door down and took it through
is going to be messy.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Well, but he was giving us everything.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Brought us victoria like that that we did get. We
did get pash for a while. Although in my push in
my in my in my Spice girls rankings, I have
I have Baby Spice higher, I have Ginger Spice higher.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
I do. Ginger was always the number one seed.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
I have that ginger and baby if they were at
the Scary Scary Yeah, oh yeah, yeah No. I always
had pash like where do you have ice? Spice?
Speaker 2 (22:51):
I rankings pretty fast, no question about it.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
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Speaker 3 (23:18):
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Speaker 1 (23:26):
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Speaker 4 (23:44):
Yeah, exactly, exactly, that's right.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Sweet.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
So so you had so you went the Saquon Barkley
hold out, You had your own Saquon Barkley TikTok dance
to break that news earlier.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
No, I wish I I don't have that swag, And
I gotta say, I wish I knew what the commander's
potential new nicknames was, but I don't, so I don't
have that information for you. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Well, the big thing, and you tweeted this out a
little bit ago, is look, everybody, of course is relieved
and happy that Daniel Snyder is out of the NFL.
He's a bad owner, a bad guy. But you says
there there seems to be a unanimous sense that of relief.
A lot of people in the nfcast were going, we
kind of wish he was still there because he was
that bad and owner. Like hey, which he was still
(24:28):
that so we could keep beating them.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
That's absolutely right. So there was the whole unanimous thank god,
this guy is gone. He's a nightmary, he's a disaster.
He's an albatrot in the league. But in the NFC,
you have executives, you have teams saying, you know, selfishly,
it'd be great to keep him around. I had one
guy tell me he was that bad. And really, when
(24:51):
you talk about Daniel Snyder, I would say venture to say,
alongside James Dowen, those are the two worst owners in
North America for over the last several decades. I mean
they're just both horrendous, both no concept of humanity and
really no understanding morally compass wise to run a franchise,
(25:12):
just runnless. And I thought it was interesting that Josh
Harris in front of you know, his fan base, is
we want to restore the Commanders or the Redskins to
be number one. At least you have an owner and
now that has a vision that's something they simply have
not had.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Called into a broadcast too, and bought the bar free beer,
so you know, being a man of the people right
away too.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
So absolutely so we'll definitely do a big that will
do big numbers in the DMV. I like it.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
I was gonna say, all you needed to do was
whisper and hint that you might and you're that much
better off than the old guy just for saying, you
know what, I'd like to drink a beer with you,
something he didn't even have to spend a time.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
Seven percent, by the way, was the profit margins for
Daniel Snyder. So I know he gets the sixty million dollars, fine,
whatever it was, but he ended up making over five
well over five billion dollars.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
So yeah, but but I want to go back. This
is not gonna slide here. You wait till the Knicks
are in the bleeping finals next year, Jordan Schultz. Despite
the fact that we have James Dolan as our owner,
you watch Jalen Brunson holding up the Larry O'Brian Trophy,
and I'm gonna call you and say, you watch that
television right now.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
If if that happens, then I will TikTok my way
off the app look at because yeah, listen, no, I
love the Dylan Brunton move. I I I live in
New York and the Knicks have a phenomenal fan base.
So selfishly, as a basketball fan, I would love for
that team to be relevant, and obviously they are headed
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in the right direction, So I will say that.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
All right, there we go. Okay, James Dolan here here's
not as bad as Daniel Snyder right there there, You know,
that's that's okay, that's we'll say.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
He's still on the metal stand. So you got that
going for you. All right, Let's go to the Giants
in Saguon Barkley the interview and his quotes talking about
the potential of stepping away ten million bucks five hundred
thousand dollars a week once we get started. As much
as you may want to take a stand, that's an
awful lot to risk when you've only been able to
(27:17):
put one huge year here. Jordan, Well, how do you
think this ends?
Speaker 4 (27:23):
I still think he'll play football next season. The tag
is ten million in change. He is, you know, arguably
their best player, certainly one of their most important players.
And you know last year over twelve hundred yards rushing,
double digit touchdowns, a second Proll Bowl, and he was
about a third of their offense. I mean, he really
is incredibly significant, and maybe more importantly is the morale
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inside that building. And you know, him and Daniel Jones
are enormously close. You know, he has a great relationship
with Andrew Thomas. He in many ways embodies what it
is to be a New York Giant. I'm frankly surprised
guy that they did not get a long term extension done.
I thought Josh Jacobs and Tony Pollard were significant long shots,
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but I really thought there was a pathway forward for
sake want to get a deal done.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Now.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
I do think they'll play football next season. I don't
really know what the alternative is. But I also think
that will be his last season with the Giants, because
I don't know how you really come back from this,
you know. I mean, he's twenty six, they'll be twenty seven,
and he understands very well that his earning window is now,
and so it's got to be enormously frustrating for him.
(28:34):
But I also understand the Giants' perspective to a degree,
although selfishly I would love to see him get paid
because I think he's earned it.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
You know, I get the Giants, though, see this, I
disagree with you, because they see they picked him second. Overall,
this is a new regime now that has no loyalty
to him, and they watched him be hurt and ineffective,
and here it is, and what is quote a contract here?
And he plays great? What's going to happen when we
give him that money? Right? So I kind of understand
that a little bit because that's the business of how
it goes in the NFL. May and they have said,
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we made our choice. We gave Daniel Jones all kinds
of cash. We didn't give it to Saquon Barkley. You
can tell this is the way the team is going now.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
I mean it's four years, one hundred and sixty for
Daniel and I was fortunate enough to, you know, have
that story. And I remember when it happened, thinking this
is going to impact Saquon because I thought it would
maybe not make it so there wasn't a deal, but
I thought it would it would minimize the chances or
minimize the amount of money because they made it very
(29:34):
clear that Daniel Jones was their top priority and he's
the quarterback, and then he should be on the other side.
I'll say that sometimes you just you know, you almost
have to bite the bullet. I would go back to
several years back when the Giants believe that Justin Tuck
was probably done, and they were right. He went to
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the Raiders, but a lot of Giant fans wanted Justin
Tuck to just be a Giant life because that's what
they felt like. And I think in Sae Quan's case,
there's some similarities. Now he doesn't have the Super Bowls,
he doesn't have that much equity, but in so many
ways he is embodying what it is to be a giant,
you know, alongside Daniel. So yeah, they chove Daniel. I
think the bigger, the bigger picture here, The bigger problem, guys,
(30:19):
is the running back market, which is a whole other
can of worms, and you're seeing it really come to
fruition now, running backs, even great running backs, not getting paid.
We you know, Fame Hunts on side, Leonard Fournett's on signs,
Dalvin Cooks on signs. There's just so many good players
in the position and the league is simply not paying them.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Now we see James Robinson sign today, right, and Melvin
Gordon along with Cole Beasley back in the game trying
to bolster that receiving core there in New York.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
Yeah, I think the Beasley signing is actually the most
interesting to me in that you know, he has an
actually Brian dave Ball I know, I listen, I'm gonna
tell you point blank, Dave All has been trying to
get him there for quite some time. This this goes
back to the combine this relationship or this courting, and
(31:14):
they obviously have the connection back to Buffalo. A lot
of this, a lot of Beasley being signed to New
York was Brian Dabele. And I will tell you as
well that as much as I love Dalan Hyatt, who's
gonna play in the slot, Beasley's gonna have a significant
role in the slot as well. And he's a very
good football player. He's healthy, and I think that was
an underrated pick up. I like the move. I don't
(31:36):
know how much Robinson, what impact he has. It's clearly
an insurance policy. They draft Derek Gray out of Oklahoma,
who they like a lot. They have Gary brightwell there.
I don't know what his future is, but obviously Robinson
is still young and did have a great rookie year
just two years ago.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
NFL insider Jordan Schultz our guest here the Jason Smith
Show with Mike Carmon. Now, the other big news today,
potentially Aaron Rodgers be around for longer than this year.
He said one year would be a disservice to the Jets.
So now I'm not only am I thinking, Jordan, We're
winning the Super Bowl this year. I'm thinking back to back,
I'm thinking maybe a three peat for Aaron Rodgers, then
(32:12):
he walks away. That's kind of where I am right now.
Speaker 4 (32:15):
You think it's two thousand yards for Garrett Wilson.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
Oh yeah, sure, easy, a.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
Fifth MVP for Rogers? Yeah, I would say I've been
asked this for the last day as well about Rogers.
What's what's the prognost? So I think minimum two years,
max three. I don't see four. His cap hit is
more than one hundred and seven million dollars, you know,
next year, which is obviously an enormous number, and they're
gonna have to restructure, but I will I would be
(32:43):
surprised if he doesn't play at least two. I mean,
they're set up really well. And I'm not just saying
this is your Jets fan, They're set up really well.
Wilson's tremendous. Obviously, they have the running backs, pretty good
offensive line, terrific young defense. So he comes into a
great situation. And they also went out and got Allen
was Are, they went out and got Nicole Hartman. So
I think there's a really good chance he played at
(33:05):
least two years there. And that division is tough. I
mean Buffalo should be good, Miami should be good, and
England should be better. But I think that's an eleven
twelve and football team. I think they have all the pieces.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
How soon do I get tired of Jason's excitement about
the Jets? No, no, no, let let's let's he's a top
season insider. He knows these answers.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Let's just take a couple of minutes and abbreviate that
moment that Jordan Schultz is talking about all this success
for the Jets.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Well, he predicted regular season for success.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
You know, the last time I had any kind of
any kind of regular season success talk on the radio
about the Jets. Come on, Mike, the.
Speaker 4 (33:37):
Jets and Knicks. I mean, both of them have not
exactly had a couple of great decades, but they had
their first quarterback, you know, I mean with respect to Sanchez,
you know Pennington. I mean, it's the best quarterback they've had,
and you know, I think that they're in a great position.
I'll ask you if the Jets fans, would you agree
(33:58):
that there's a tremendous amount of pressure on the the staff,
Robert Sala and Joe Douglas, because if they don't, if
it doesn't if it doesn't work with this roster, with
this regime. I think that staff, you know, they understand
the significance of it, and they're all in, which I
agree with. But I think there's a lot of press
run them.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
Oh yeah, Aaron Rodgers will fire both of them after
the season if this doesn't work. I mean they'll be
that press conference him say hey, sorry, guys, I know
I'm the quarterback, but no, that's the way it is.
But they're set up to win either. They're set up
to win and win big. And I like everything going on,
and I'm really gonna start canvassing to announce the Jets
the champions of the off season of the NFL, because
the NFL is always in season. Just because we're not
(34:33):
playing games doesn't mean they're not. They're the champions of
the last six months. I think they should get to
hang a banner or get a Swell Trophy for it.
Speaker 4 (34:40):
Yeah, the Jets in the AFC, the Lions in the NFC,
those are the two teams with the most hype I
think any conference.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
Way do we see them both in Vegas for the
Super Bowl? Jets Lions, Jets Lions.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
The Jets and or the Lions of the Super Bowl.
I will also dance off kicks. Yeah, George, that would
be amazing. I can't think of two mores. Two more
deserve franchise. I mean, Alliance have one playoff win since
nineteen fifty seven.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
I think it is.
Speaker 4 (35:07):
I mean, that's that's an impossible thing to do, so
both of those franchises deserve it.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Do you think they tried to include the rights to
Hard Knocks participation with the Denzel Mens trade.
Speaker 4 (35:18):
I would hope that's inn would that I didn't think
about that. That would be really good stuff. I would
like that'd be great.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
You can follow him on Twitter at Schultz Underscore Report.
That's at Schultz Underscore Report. Jordan has always Buddy, appreciate
your time, and I'm going to play back your comments
about the Jets on a loop for the next like
month and a half until we get to the season.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
I can't wait. And it's always a pleasure. Guys, Thank
you so much.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
You gotta man have a great shame of man.
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Speaker 1 (00:28):
Well the night that soccer has taken over Leono Messi
into Miami one one in the eighty seventh minute. But
more importantly, at least for right now, the United States
leading Vietnam just two nothing at halftime in their World
Cup opener. I'm not saying I'm nervous, Mike Carmen, because
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I do want to. I do understand that. Look, this
is a new team, a lot of new faces. The
first half of the first game is going to be
a little different. They're not going to be quite as
sharp as they're expected to be. But if we get
to the seventy fifth minute and it's kind of still
like this and the United States looks like they're having trouble,
then I'll be a little nervous because you know, we
talked about it last night. The biggest thing is gonna
(01:11):
be scoring goals. You know, can the United States when
it gets not games like here? Obviously Vietnam they can't
even get the ball past midfield. So I'm not too
I'm not too concerned about this game. But overall, when
you talk about advancing, we need some people that can
put the ball in the back of the net. And
as you can see by the first half, is Alex
Morgan still elite? I don't know. Sophia Smith, who's got
two goals in the United States, may be the most
(01:33):
important player on the US women's national team because somebody
else is gonna have to score. Rapino's gonna play limited minutes.
Who knows how good Alex Morgan still really is. She
might be the most important player. She's got two goals
to start, so for her great start everybody else. Let's
see how the second half goes.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Yeah, I mean Alex Morgan picking up where Saint Clair
left off yesterday.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
With your favorite player with a.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Terrible penalty straight up the gut. So even if the
goalie guess is completely wrong, it's the length of her
body to stop it in the middle of the well.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
She'd do if she just fell to one side, Like,
that's what I would do. I would pick a side
and just fall to one side. I would have made
that save. I would just fall into that side.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Yeah, so you get to save there a couple of chances,
a couple of There was a ball in the twenty
eighth minute, and you know that was just wide, a
bit of an impossible angle for the shot that that
Morgan had taken. But you know, all in all, you know,
you're also playing against the defense that you're you're packing
it in like you're you're battling Derrick Henry or all
(02:36):
of the goal line.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
We know where it's going.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Yeah, well, I mean you got to overcome that. But
a lot of dribble as opposed to connecting passes and setups.
We'll see what happens second half. Five shots on goal
to Vietnam zero. I mean, they had virtually no possession.
I'd love to see the top for the first half.
But you know, the second half, different leg. You get
(03:01):
to go back in and you know, have your vocal
ranting session of what all went wrong? Because really I mean,
you're a five and a half goal favorite. Let's go.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Yeah. Look, that's what I don't want to panic too
early because everybody else wants to panic right now. Why nothing, Why.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
It's hot takes theater?
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Yeah, it's it's forty five minutes, and I want to
give them this the halftime. Let's settle down again. A
lot of a lot of players making their debuts here,
and this is a little bit different. Even though you
get to the World Cup, it's still a little bit
different than the friendlies and the prep games going forward
all this stuff. So I want to give them a
little bit. I want to see if they're a little
bit sharper in the second half, see if they're able
(03:38):
to to to really start connecting on things. But the
teams are just going to get better. I mean this
is a team like look, you saw the play by
play in the first half, Vietnam is just hoping to.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Score a goal in the world to get big run
hoping to score a goal. Well you saw it near
the what was it the ninth minute of extra time?
How ridiculous was that? Like ten and a half minutes
extra Yeah, but they had one big run out and
I was like, uh, here you go. Yeah, they're just oh,
it just takes one, right, It takes one breakdown defensively,
(04:08):
one misjudging of a ball in the air, and and
you got chaos and Susan Will that was swept away
without much fanfare thereafter. But you know, in the moment
when you're you're not taking control and not putting the
ball in the back, and that I can't say they
didn't have control. They just didn't finish.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
No, And again, Vietnam is packing the box. It is.
It is a little more difficult, but this is still
you're talking about You're an eight and a half goal favorite, right,
five and a half, five and a half the favorite.
This is, I mean, this is a This is a
pretty big deal. And in the end, is it gonna
wind up something like five or six nothing? Probably? And
are there some good things going to be to take
(04:47):
away from this game? Yeah, But overall, the overall sense,
and what you and I have talked about for a
while is that this is not the same United States
team coming into this World Cup. That hey, we're just
gonna roll over everybody. If we have one tough game
along the way, that's gonna be that's gonna be it
for us. Everything else should be pretty easy. This is
not that team. This is new players. Because we saw
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that he in the Olympics. It was we weren't fast enough,
We got tired the older players. There's been no big
ramp up of the younger generation so far. They're all
getting used to things. Not having Mallory Swanson is a
really big deal because she's somebody would score a lot
of goals. That's gonna be the thing. And I see
this World Cup going where, look, no one's gonna dominate
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the United States. But could I see a lot of
once you get to the bigger games in the knockout stage,
could I see a lot of games zero zero and
teams playing and maybe it being like an even kind
of game, and teams playing for penalties where anything can happen. Yeah,
I could see games where the United States gives up
a big run. When you have a team with an
elite scorer that that can hit the put the ball
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in the back of the net. I can see them
losing one nothing and then the other team's packing the box.
So it's it's not about now. It's not about this
game again Vietnam, because like I said, I don't know
how how many times Vietnam gonna get the ball passed
midfield in the second half?
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Three times? Four times? Yeah, inside thirty yards? Yeah, I
think you got one.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Yeah yeah. And they're gonna get tired. And look, Rose
Levell is gonna come in the second half, and so
is Megan Rapino, So you have to think that their
leadership is going to settle things a little bit. And
Lavell is just about getting her wind back. And for Repino,
you know, she's gonna be in limited minutes because this
is a retirement tour. She's only gonna play probably fifteen
to twenty minutes a night. But you know that that's
where I expect to see a little bit better sharper
(06:30):
play for the United States. But this ain't gonna be
a cakewalk. This ain't gonna be hey, back to back
to back to back. Look how great we are. We
have two teams that can compete in the World Cup.
That's not the case. Now. This is a team that's
going to struggle to put the ball in the back
of the net. And as as rough a first half
as it was for Alex Morgan, who got a complete
break on Sophia Smith's second goal because she was offside.
(06:52):
I don't know what. Yeah, they were looking at I'm like, oh,
we're not getting that she's off side. Oh no, we're
getting the goal. Oh great, yay, do nothing to nothing.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Yeah. It's like they called the reset after the ball
got popped out, yeah or something. I don't know it.
It's it's almost like you were playing make it, take it. Yeah,
I got past the free throw and make you know
you could be wherever you need to be. Got the
ball got back out there. But I mean you talk
about and and injuries are part of the game for
every nation, no question about it. But you don't have Macario,
(07:20):
who you thought might have been, you know, ready to
ramp up to this point. Uh not their sour run press.
Uh you mentioned Swanson. I mean you're missing a lot
of firepower. Uh. So trying to bring it together and
the and the way it works when you you have
just a couple of weeks together because of the NWSL,
(07:45):
You know that that's part of it that plays in
as well. Jason. I mean, they have a couple of
weeks together, especially when you're integrating so many young players,
and it's not quite so simple, uh to get that
flow and again you're packing the box, uh Vietnam, to
do anything you can to just keep the bleeding at
a trickle here and then give yourself a puncher's chance.
(08:06):
So curious to see what second half brings for us,
but certainly an uneven kind of weird. I mean Alex
Morgan getting stopped out a penalty, I mean you, I mean,
I'm sure Steve Seger was like, hey, it's coal m m.
It jinks her too. That's right, head out that the
Sager jinks.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
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com slash match. So somebody that the US women's national
team could have used in the first half is Leonel Messi,
who of course is making his MLS debut tonight. Oh goodness,
(08:45):
in the League's Cup. Yeah, for Inter Miami. He comes
into the game, he comes off the bench and right
away they give up the lead. No, I can't believe it.
He's overrated.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Oh this Cup's minus took.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
A hit, however, on a free kick probably about ten
yards outside the box middle of the field. Messi has
just scored in the ninety third minute to give Inner
Miami the two to one lead. Right now, he's taking
a victory lap. The stands are insane.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
It was some kind of again about ten feet behind,
uh the eighteen and it's a left footed curl and
they cut to David Beckham on the sideline, who's like, yeah,
how I did it? I mean, this is this is
Messi is going on. It's like when Ripken played in
twenty six thirty two and he's high fiving all the
fans around the field. That's what Messi is doing right now. Hey,
(09:38):
great getting horses.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
That's him. I mean that that's a beautiful shot to
the upper west inside the upper post right there. Man.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
That is wow.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
You can't you can't write it any better than that.
Woo man. And they're wearing pink uniforms in celebration of
the Barbie release.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Yeah, well sure, sure, yeah. I gotta say though those
I really don't like the callers. I don't like the
jersey with the it's too formal. What do you know
about faustas don't I don't like the call and now
and now the game is over, Messi scoring in the
final minute over inner, Miami wins. Already, Hey, worth every
penny scrypted, worth every penny for all.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Look at that. I like that for every scripted. You
can't write it any better than that. One thing to
note though, that right before game time, remember how much
people were spending for like a block of four seats
you know, midfield whatever to get in in the final
fifteen minutes before kickoff was like one hundred and fifty bucks.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Yeah, but if you wanted to go, if you wanted
to sit next to David Beckham, it was you know,
a thousand dollars, right, But.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
If you just wanted to be in for the moment,
like it was hyped like it was the most expensive
thing ever, and really it wasn't.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Yeah, well, well but.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
The priceless sandwiches and shame on, dude, I bought yesterday.
You could have gotten in to see Messi plays. Dude.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Ticket companies don't say, hey, come by. They're really low
and there's no fees. No, they got a kind of
jaging no no.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
But that's why I was cautioning against it, because we
did the story. I was like, all right, this is
some bad journalism because everybody likes the shocking headline when
reality was if you just wanted to get in this,
you know, for the price of a cup of.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Coffee, worth every penny.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
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Speaker 1 (11:32):
Still at least six minutes left to go in the
United States's first game of the Women's World Cup against Vietnam,
nine extra minutes at least of extra time, USA leads
Vietnam three. Nothing bit of a shocker eye opener for
a lot of people that this was not a more
(11:53):
dominant victory on the scoreboard. And we'll have more on
this game coming up in about twenty minutes as we
break down just where we sit after night one, am.
I gonna tell you, Mike, my army right away. I
don't feel any different than I did last night.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Yeah, you're you're a bit more nervous than I am
in this process, feeling out some opportunities, miss stuff to
clean up again. You know, you got a shortened turnaround.
Back together, right, everybody off with their NWSL teams, you're inconvene. Uh,
and then you know you're getting your treatment. You're missing
a lot of injured players, so you're substituting a lot
(12:27):
of young players. We know that the core of the squad,
the names that we're familiar with. For many of them,
this is, you know, gonna be their last run. So
part of it is gonna be a little bit of
pacing and and they've dominated the game, right, It's one
of those Hey, you dominated, you just didn't put the
ball in the back of the net. And I know
that's the end game and and the plenty of losses
(12:50):
have piled up over that, but they will survive. You're
Alex Morgan problem after she missed and had that penalty, Yeah,
wiped away.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Yeah, very difficult.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Because I think we're still there's still no shots for Vietnam,
are there?
Speaker 1 (13:03):
No? No, no, no, there are no shots.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Did they ever get passed? I don't know the third
dark green stripe of lawn?
Speaker 1 (13:11):
I mean, ah ah, I actually did see a listen
to their play one ball, so I think that that
did happen.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
But was it a shot on goal or just you know, oh.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
No, I think it was actually it was actually a
fan return the ball to the field. Actually, I think
that's what it was. So we'll have more on this
game coming up in a few minutes here live from the
tirec dot com studios. At the end of your first year,
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(13:43):
world tonight Leono Messi's MLS debut for Inner Miami against
Cruz Azul in the League's Cup, and it was everything
you'd expect it to be. The stands were full, Beckham
was there, so many luminaries and Messi coming off the
bench right away Inner Miami gives up the lead. Overrated,
(14:04):
get rid of him, he's not worth it. But then
late in the game, in fact, there was only a
minute and a half played after this, it was a
free kick for Inner Miami about ten yards outside of
the eighteen, and of course Messi is taking it, and
of course this was the result.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Here it is messy any other way.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Apple TV on the call. Wait, I didn't get out
watching baseball and that was on Apple TV yes, Apple TV.
On the call, Messy curls it in just inside the post,
a left footed free kick inner Miami wins it two
to one. The celebrate after he's walking around giving high
fives to people, getting congratulatory hand shakes. It's almost it's
(15:06):
almost like everybody decided, Okay, that was pretty sweet. It's
Messy in the MLS, and wow, we need we gotta
take a minute, we gotta take him in. And everybody understands.
All right, you know, it was a big thing. Every
everybody's going crazy. The fans were going nuts. Let's taken
it and let it happen. It was a long and
elongated celebration. And about a minute after that they blew
the final whistle and in Milan and Messi's debut wins
(15:27):
a two to one, and of course he wins it
with that goal on the free kick. That was pretty sweet.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Well, you know, some would say, I mean, it's a
Hollywood kind of thing. Writers are on strike, but the
sporting world, you can't know.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
You can't know. You're not allowed to say it's a
Hollywood thing. When the writers are on strike. You can't
do that. You're not allowed to. I have to report
you now I have to call Mandy Patinkin and I'm
going to tell you, Hey, this is what Mike Harmon said.
You're gonna be in a lot of trouble, isn't it.
Fran Dresher.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Comes at you aggressively. She's got the title, he's he
can he gets kind of menacing when he starts talking.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Yeah, but the nanny's voice will get you. Man.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
No, there's no question about that punishment. I mean, look,
you had a great convergence of all the UK stars,
right with Haley Atwell, who Jason said was too much
in Mission Impossible.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
You're hanging out with Brian Cox. He's been it too much.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
I mean that's kind of cool. But yeah, it was
a rocket shot something tight shirt and that we're talking
about before. I mean, that's like ninety nine point. I
don't even think there's room for air. I think it's
a full one hundred goal.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
I mean, it really is something. And to see the reaction,
right because now we're gonna get something pretty big here,
is that sometimes you can understand that there is a
sea change going on in the sports world, and sometimes
we think it's there, but it's not, And then we
think it's there but it's not. And we think it's
there again, but it's not. But within the next few years,
(16:55):
within the next five years, I would say we're going
to be talking about the four major sports again, because
you and I growing up the four major sports all
the way into the nineties into the early two thousand
and for baseball, football, basketball, hockey. Right, those are the
four major sports, the ones that got all the television contracts.
And yeah, you watch tennis or golf when they were on,
but the baseball, football, basketball, hockey. Now what happened. Hockey's
(17:17):
fallen off in a large way and now it barely rates,
which look, it sucks because you and I are both
big hockey fans, but I understand what's happened to the sport.
And boy, Gary Bettman just as hey do it such
a great job taking it from one of the four
major sports too. Hey, anybody want to televise our games? Anybody,
anybody at all? But right now is that moment for
(17:39):
soccer in the United States? And you could say it
kind of goes back to the Lynn and Donovan goal
against Algeria and the twenty eleven World Cup that that
kind of that was the awakening, right that would you
kind of say that was the force awakening, that, hey,
you see how much we care about soccer. But still
the next few World Cups, it was, well, we care
about the men in the World Cup. We care about
the women in the World Cup. The women are winning.
(18:00):
But now it just seems like this is soccer's time
in the United States, and and and when you look
at everything happening with the the the overall attention the
MLS is thriving. I mean they are, you know, some
team setting attendance records every single year. The MLS has
never been better. You have the successive shows now like
(18:21):
ted Lasso and Welcome to Wrexham, which you're a big
deal that hey, these are shows that people are consuming. Yes,
ted Lasso is a comedy and it happens to take
place in the world of soccer, but it's still a
soccer comedy. Welcome to wrection them to show about a
soccer team and Bleeping whales Man and okay, but it's
still it's still something that has cut through it and
gains a lot of attention. And now when you throw
(18:43):
in Leono Messi, who is now at the MLS in
the right time, David Beckham showed up. It was a
little too early, and maybe that kind of started a
little bit, That kind of started the spark, but it
really didn't hit until you get to twenty eleven in
landon Donovan and now that Messi here, every game is
going to be a traveling circus show. Wherever Messi's gonna play,
(19:05):
whether he plays road games or not, but every game
that he plays is going to be an event. It's
going to be a big thing. And at thirty six
he's still here. He's still gonna be able to dominate
for at least another couple of years. Looks lot time
came over when you thought his career was over and
what he played like sixty five MLS games, had sixty
seven goals, something insane like that. The guy was amazing.
(19:27):
But Messi is just a different kind of superstar. It's
a whole other level. You're talking about arguably the biggest
superstar in the world who is now playing soccer in
the United States. Everything he does is going to gain attention.
The highlights are going to be on television all the time.
It's going to be talked about. Messi's going to be debated,
what his impact is going to be this is soccer's
(19:48):
time now, and in the next five years, it's gonna
be baseball, football, basketball, soccer, and it's gonna be NFL, NBA,
MLB and MLS. And I would say MLS is gonna
expect but I want to say soccer rather than just MLS,
because sure, as big as it's going to be, you
still have the women's national team and the men's national
team that gains a lot of attention to play important
(20:08):
tournaments like the Gold Cup and other friendlies getting ready
for the World Cup. We get it every couple of years,
so it gets a little bit bigger than MLS. But
get ready because that's what we're that's where we're at.
We're gonna have the four major sports again within the
next five years. Of soccer is going to be that
fourth sport.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Yeah, I mean, we talk about demographic shifts. We talked
about it a little bit last night, the eyeballs, the
investment because we keep talking about live sports being that
last bastion of Hey, I have to watch it. It's
not binge watching later. It's not wait till tomorrow, no, no, no,
I have to The immediacy of it is there, so
ad sales and the money that goes into each league
(20:48):
and then trickle down back into the college game when
we start talking about conferences and everything that it all
flows together. I think with Messi, I'm really glad he scored, though, Jason,
because otherwise, you know what the headline was, Hey, Lebron
James showed up to see MESSI play. I told hey,
injected himself into the damn news again. You told me
(21:09):
I was wrong. He's done for a while. No, there
he is.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
No, you're right, you're right, and it would have been
all Messi doesn't score. It's Lebron's fault that that would
have been.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
That would have been good.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
It would have been the thing. Oh, it's Lebron. MESSI
was gonna be fun. But Lebron shows up and now
that's not there. You're right, you're right, you're right.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
There's no question about it. You know they'll get you.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
I mean, she showed up, Jason, and he already came
off the bench.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Was Tom Brady there?
Speaker 1 (21:34):
I didn't even start because she showed up. Yeah, no,
I listen, I can't start until Kim Kardashian's interseat. And
I know it's gonna be a little while, so I'll
come off the bench. I'm fine.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Well, I mean, because everybody has to admire as she
goes by.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
What do you think, guys, is it safe to say
he's already the greatest MLS player ever?
Speaker 2 (21:49):
I think I think it would not be too big
a hot take to do that. In the reaction to this.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
I remember when Beckham debuted and how big a deal
it was. But I you know, I just don't think
he's you know what, he's gonna remember that. Here's how
it's gonna go down. You're gonna talk about that the
biggest stars in the MLS and looks a lot time
is probably the third biggest star to ever play in
the m LS. You're gonna look at David Beckham as
the conduit, the guy who kind of opened the door
(22:15):
a little bit for soccer's popularity. But the guy that
that that broke the door down and took it through
is going to be messy.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Well, but he was giving us everything.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Brought us victoria like that that we did get. We
did get pash for a while. Although in my push in
my in my in my Spice girls rankings, I have
I have Baby Spice higher, I have Ginger Spice higher.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
I do. Ginger was always the number one seed.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
I have that ginger and baby if they were at
the Scary Scary Yeah, oh yeah, yeah No. I always
had pash like where do you have ice? Spice?
Speaker 2 (22:51):
I rankings pretty fast, no question about it.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
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Speaker 3 (23:18):
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Speaker 1 (23:26):
Maybe somebody who does know what they're gonna be called
joins us now, speaking of Jordan Schultz, he is here
with us now. He's on Twitter at Schultz Underscore Report.
That's at Schultz Underscore Report. He's on TikTok at Real
Jordan Schultz. This is where Jordan you break news with
dances right on TikTok.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
Yeah, exactly, exactly, that's right.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Sweet.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
So so you had so you went the Saquon Barkley
hold out, You had your own Saquon Barkley TikTok dance
to break that news earlier.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
No, I wish I I don't have that swag, And
I gotta say, I wish I knew what the commander's
potential new nicknames was, but I don't, so I don't
have that information for you. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Well, the big thing, and you tweeted this out a
little bit ago, is look, everybody, of course is relieved
and happy that Daniel Snyder is out of the NFL.
He's a bad owner, a bad guy. But you says
there there seems to be a unanimous sense that of relief.
A lot of people in the nfcast were going, we
kind of wish he was still there because he was
that bad and owner. Like hey, which he was still
(24:28):
that so we could keep beating them.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
That's absolutely right. So there was the whole unanimous thank god,
this guy is gone. He's a nightmary, he's a disaster.
He's an albatrot in the league. But in the NFC,
you have executives, you have teams saying, you know, selfishly,
it'd be great to keep him around. I had one
guy tell me he was that bad. And really, when
(24:51):
you talk about Daniel Snyder, I would say venture to say,
alongside James Dowen, those are the two worst owners in
North America for over the last several decades. I mean
they're just both horrendous, both no concept of humanity and
really no understanding morally compass wise to run a franchise,
(25:12):
just runnless. And I thought it was interesting that Josh
Harris in front of you know, his fan base, is
we want to restore the Commanders or the Redskins to
be number one. At least you have an owner and
now that has a vision that's something they simply have
not had.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Called into a broadcast too, and bought the bar free beer,
so you know, being a man of the people right
away too.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
So absolutely so we'll definitely do a big that will
do big numbers in the DMV. I like it.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
I was gonna say, all you needed to do was
whisper and hint that you might and you're that much
better off than the old guy just for saying, you
know what, I'd like to drink a beer with you,
something he didn't even have to spend a time.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
Seven percent, by the way, was the profit margins for
Daniel Snyder. So I know he gets the sixty million dollars, fine,
whatever it was, but he ended up making over five
well over five billion dollars.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
So yeah, but but I want to go back. This
is not gonna slide here. You wait till the Knicks
are in the bleeping finals next year, Jordan Schultz. Despite
the fact that we have James Dolan as our owner,
you watch Jalen Brunson holding up the Larry O'Brian Trophy,
and I'm gonna call you and say, you watch that
television right now.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
If if that happens, then I will TikTok my way
off the app look at because yeah, listen, no, I
love the Dylan Brunton move. I I I live in
New York and the Knicks have a phenomenal fan base.
So selfishly, as a basketball fan, I would love for
that team to be relevant, and obviously they are headed
(26:46):
in the right direction, So I will say that.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
All right, there we go. Okay, James Dolan here here's
not as bad as Daniel Snyder right there there, You know,
that's that's okay, that's we'll say.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
He's still on the metal stand. So you got that
going for you. All right, Let's go to the Giants
in Saguon Barkley the interview and his quotes talking about
the potential of stepping away ten million bucks five hundred
thousand dollars a week once we get started. As much
as you may want to take a stand, that's an
awful lot to risk when you've only been able to
(27:17):
put one huge year here. Jordan, Well, how do you
think this ends?
Speaker 4 (27:23):
I still think he'll play football next season. The tag
is ten million in change. He is, you know, arguably
their best player, certainly one of their most important players.
And you know last year over twelve hundred yards rushing,
double digit touchdowns, a second Proll Bowl, and he was
about a third of their offense. I mean, he really
is incredibly significant, and maybe more importantly is the morale
(27:47):
inside that building. And you know, him and Daniel Jones
are enormously close. You know, he has a great relationship
with Andrew Thomas. He in many ways embodies what it
is to be a New York Giant. I'm frankly surprised
guy that they did not get a long term extension done.
I thought Josh Jacobs and Tony Pollard were significant long shots,
(28:08):
but I really thought there was a pathway forward for
sake want to get a deal done.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Now.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
I do think they'll play football next season. I don't
really know what the alternative is. But I also think
that will be his last season with the Giants, because
I don't know how you really come back from this,
you know. I mean, he's twenty six, they'll be twenty seven,
and he understands very well that his earning window is now,
and so it's got to be enormously frustrating for him.
(28:34):
But I also understand the Giants' perspective to a degree,
although selfishly I would love to see him get paid
because I think he's earned it.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
You know, I get the Giants, though, see this, I
disagree with you, because they see they picked him second. Overall,
this is a new regime now that has no loyalty
to him, and they watched him be hurt and ineffective,
and here it is, and what is quote a contract here?
And he plays great? What's going to happen when we
give him that money? Right? So I kind of understand
that a little bit because that's the business of how
it goes in the NFL. May and they have said,
(29:04):
we made our choice. We gave Daniel Jones all kinds
of cash. We didn't give it to Saquon Barkley. You
can tell this is the way the team is going now.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
I mean it's four years, one hundred and sixty for
Daniel and I was fortunate enough to, you know, have
that story. And I remember when it happened, thinking this
is going to impact Saquon because I thought it would
maybe not make it so there wasn't a deal, but
I thought it would it would minimize the chances or
minimize the amount of money because they made it very
(29:34):
clear that Daniel Jones was their top priority and he's
the quarterback, and then he should be on the other side.
I'll say that sometimes you just you know, you almost
have to bite the bullet. I would go back to
several years back when the Giants believe that Justin Tuck
was probably done, and they were right. He went to
(29:56):
the Raiders, but a lot of Giant fans wanted Justin
Tuck to just be a Giant life because that's what
they felt like. And I think in Sae Quan's case,
there's some similarities. Now he doesn't have the Super Bowls,
he doesn't have that much equity, but in so many
ways he is embodying what it is to be a giant,
you know, alongside Daniel. So yeah, they chove Daniel. I
think the bigger, the bigger picture here, The bigger problem, guys,
(30:19):
is the running back market, which is a whole other
can of worms, and you're seeing it really come to
fruition now, running backs, even great running backs, not getting paid.
We you know, Fame Hunts on side, Leonard Fournett's on signs,
Dalvin Cooks on signs. There's just so many good players
in the position and the league is simply not paying them.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Now we see James Robinson sign today, right, and Melvin
Gordon along with Cole Beasley back in the game trying
to bolster that receiving core there in New York.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
Yeah, I think the Beasley signing is actually the most
interesting to me in that you know, he has an
actually Brian dave Ball I know, I listen, I'm gonna
tell you point blank, Dave All has been trying to
get him there for quite some time. This this goes
back to the combine this relationship or this courting, and
(31:14):
they obviously have the connection back to Buffalo. A lot
of this, a lot of Beasley being signed to New
York was Brian Dabele. And I will tell you as
well that as much as I love Dalan Hyatt, who's
gonna play in the slot, Beasley's gonna have a significant
role in the slot as well. And he's a very
good football player. He's healthy, and I think that was
an underrated pick up. I like the move. I don't
(31:36):
know how much Robinson, what impact he has. It's clearly
an insurance policy. They draft Derek Gray out of Oklahoma,
who they like a lot. They have Gary brightwell there.
I don't know what his future is, but obviously Robinson
is still young and did have a great rookie year
just two years ago.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
NFL insider Jordan Schultz our guest here the Jason Smith
Show with Mike Carmon. Now, the other big news today,
potentially Aaron Rodgers be around for longer than this year.
He said one year would be a disservice to the Jets.
So now I'm not only am I thinking, Jordan, We're
winning the Super Bowl this year. I'm thinking back to back,
I'm thinking maybe a three peat for Aaron Rodgers, then
(32:12):
he walks away. That's kind of where I am right now.
Speaker 4 (32:15):
You think it's two thousand yards for Garrett Wilson.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
Oh yeah, sure, easy, a.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
Fifth MVP for Rogers? Yeah, I would say I've been
asked this for the last day as well about Rogers.
What's what's the prognost? So I think minimum two years,
max three. I don't see four. His cap hit is
more than one hundred and seven million dollars, you know,
next year, which is obviously an enormous number, and they're
gonna have to restructure, but I will I would be
(32:43):
surprised if he doesn't play at least two. I mean,
they're set up really well. And I'm not just saying
this is your Jets fan, They're set up really well.
Wilson's tremendous. Obviously, they have the running backs, pretty good
offensive line, terrific young defense. So he comes into a
great situation. And they also went out and got Allen
was Are, they went out and got Nicole Hartman. So
I think there's a really good chance he played at
(33:05):
least two years there. And that division is tough. I
mean Buffalo should be good, Miami should be good, and
England should be better. But I think that's an eleven
twelve and football team. I think they have all the pieces.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
How soon do I get tired of Jason's excitement about
the Jets? No, no, no, let let's let's he's a top
season insider. He knows these answers.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Let's just take a couple of minutes and abbreviate that
moment that Jordan Schultz is talking about all this success
for the Jets.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Well, he predicted regular season for success.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
You know, the last time I had any kind of
any kind of regular season success talk on the radio
about the Jets. Come on, Mike, the.
Speaker 4 (33:37):
Jets and Knicks. I mean, both of them have not
exactly had a couple of great decades, but they had
their first quarterback, you know, I mean with respect to Sanchez,
you know Pennington. I mean, it's the best quarterback they've had,
and you know, I think that they're in a great position.
I'll ask you if the Jets fans, would you agree
(33:58):
that there's a tremendous amount of pressure on the the staff,
Robert Sala and Joe Douglas, because if they don't, if
it doesn't if it doesn't work with this roster, with
this regime. I think that staff, you know, they understand
the significance of it, and they're all in, which I
agree with. But I think there's a lot of press
run them.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
Oh yeah, Aaron Rodgers will fire both of them after
the season if this doesn't work. I mean they'll be
that press conference him say hey, sorry, guys, I know
I'm the quarterback, but no, that's the way it is.
But they're set up to win either. They're set up
to win and win big. And I like everything going on,
and I'm really gonna start canvassing to announce the Jets
the champions of the off season of the NFL, because
the NFL is always in season. Just because we're not
(34:33):
playing games doesn't mean they're not. They're the champions of
the last six months. I think they should get to
hang a banner or get a Swell Trophy for it.
Speaker 4 (34:40):
Yeah, the Jets in the AFC, the Lions in the NFC,
those are the two teams with the most hype I
think any conference.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
Way do we see them both in Vegas for the
Super Bowl? Jets Lions, Jets Lions.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
The Jets and or the Lions of the Super Bowl.
I will also dance off kicks. Yeah, George, that would
be amazing. I can't think of two mores. Two more
deserve franchise. I mean, Alliance have one playoff win since
nineteen fifty seven.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
I think it is.
Speaker 4 (35:07):
I mean, that's that's an impossible thing to do, so
both of those franchises deserve it.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Do you think they tried to include the rights to
Hard Knocks participation with the Denzel Mens trade.
Speaker 4 (35:18):
I would hope that's inn would that I didn't think
about that. That would be really good stuff. I would
like that'd be great.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
You can follow him on Twitter at Schultz Underscore Report.
That's at Schultz Underscore Report. Jordan has always Buddy, appreciate
your time, and I'm going to play back your comments
about the Jets on a loop for the next like
month and a half until we get to the season.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
I can't wait. And it's always a pleasure. Guys, Thank
you so much.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
You gotta man have a great shame of man.
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