July 25, 2023 • 34 mins
Jason Smith and Mike Harmon tell you how Twitter changing its name to “X” will end up for Elon Musk. The guys give their contract solutions for the top NFL running backs. And Jason explains why he’s nervous about Aaron Rodgers!
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Speaker 1 (00:28):
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(00:50):
Columbia leads South Korea to nothing. Women's World Cup. Really
bad goal, second goal South Korea.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
First one game on a penalty kick off handball, and
then the second just misjudged, came off the line trying
to trying to make a play, and then it's the
old if you're an outfielder, first steps always got to be.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Back, not forward. No, it was real. I was like ooh,
that's a bit.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
It's time the jump. You know, everything that could go
wrong did. Then it opens up to a nil nil lead.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
As we go to have there goes my dvring this,
so you're we No, I'm just live on Fox, got
FS one. Let's go and say, oh, you ruined Barbie
for me, ruined Oppenheimer for me, ruined all the No,
it's live sports. I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Hey, you know what inn Oppenheimer might be? An explosion?
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Yeah, I heard it was the bomb. Oh wow, too soon?
Come on that. Wow, it's too soon. So I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
I kept seeing the clip in my timeline today, the
old interview that the actual Oppenheimer did where he's quoting.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
I am Destroyer of worlds, Like, that's creepy, that's that's
Christopher Nolan takes it in the in the other direction,
like the alternate reality where he actually puts the power.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Glove on and he turned into Thanos. Yeah, because really,
what did you really develop? It's like, wow, that was
all misdirection. Over here, I've got a gauntlet. I you know,
I'm still trying to find somebody who's seen it that
can tell me for certain it's a straight ahead beginning
to end movie. There's no craziness, there's no alternate reality,
there's not no no one. There was an estimate that
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sixty six to eight percent of the people that saw
Oppenheimer only did so because Barbie was sold out at
the time. They oh, yeah, sure that that's like a
throwback two years ago when you go to the movies
and go, oh, we can't get tickets. This is salt,
so we went to go see this instead. You do
that all the time.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Did you buy the sixty five dollars popcorn bucket? No, no,
it's a cattle appcorn. There was no we went to
last night for Barbie there. I'm sorry, that doesn't mean
it might now still had a plastic tubb.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Or the squishy machine was out and they didn't have
any They didn't have any big any snacks really called
a squish? No, I like called a squish. I got
a blueberry squishy and nothing. I'm like, I gotta go
through this movie with a warm soda because there was
no ice, and and and and and that's it, just
that of popcorn. What are you doing to me? First
world problems? What are you doing to me? Why they
watching this Barbie movie? But yeah, people working playing.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
It's like, all right, you get a Barbie doll, you
get a Barbie Cadillac, and you get popcorn.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
And then you get match Bucks twenty. I want to
push you around. Well I will.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Well, I gave away the guitar too. That was in
the that was in the trades today. So there you go, BTS.
Someone now has that guitar. Maybe he'll pick it up
and sing to the.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Oh was that why he was getting congratulated on Twitter? Sorry?
Speaker 3 (03:36):
On X on x x X means so many different things.
I liked that six the musical came in. It's like, oh,
now everybody's talking about us, the ex wives, all the
uh dearly departed uh. And then you have uh, you
know x x's uh Xavier McDaniel's picture showing up in
my timeline.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
A lot today. So that was good.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
And you got X the movie with Jenn Ortega.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Yeah, much different than this. Yeah, Zoe said to me
the other day because she likes horror movies. Now she goes, hey,
I just allowed her to see Hereditary and she was saying,
I want to see Midsummer thought it was terrible. No,
I thought that. I thought the first half Hereditary was
one of the best horror movies I've ever seen. In
the second half, I thought it was like, oh, that's
what it is.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
But the first half I was already pot committed, so
I just stayed with it.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
The first half it was so good, like this is
an insanely good movie. And I'm like, oh, okay, that's
how it's gonna end. Which I was like, okay, I'm
glad you stayed with it. I mean, you like the
first half. But she said I didn't.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Can I see X?
Speaker 1 (04:31):
I said, just over the weekend? I said no, and
Pam looks at me and says, why not. I go, no,
can't see We've seen it in the studio. Can't see X.
Why waiting to go on air? I said no, and
she's like why. I said no, and Pam was like,
all right, I gotta. I gotta look it up and
look it up. And I sat there drumming my fingers.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
I go look it up, for it, look it up,
wait for it, look it up, look it up.
Speaker 5 (04:51):
Dah.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Now you see right?
Speaker 5 (04:54):
Ah?
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Yeah, I can't see X yet. Can't sye X yet?
Speaker 2 (04:56):
No?
Speaker 1 (04:56):
No, no, no, no, but now look how about midsommer? No? No,
I can't believe you showed your kids Midsummer. If it
wasn't for the scene at the end, I would say okay.
When when he's in the the room, I'm like, no,
I know, okay, no you can. You have to wait
to see that one. You have to wait to see
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that I don't know.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Then we celebrate the rest of it order in Criminal Minds,
mids Midsummer.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Was and an insanely good movie. I keep saying insane.
It's one of those movies where I saw it once
and I never want to see it again. It was
so good, but I never want to see it again.
Never Like a Mats game. No, yeah, once, I never
want to see it again. But had cheating in it,
and you know, cheaty fun sorry, cheaty? How about cheat
how about I never thought about this? Now Cheaty and
Florence Pew are both in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Now
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it's pretty good, right. I want to have a scene
where he walks up there, he goes, hey, what happened?
My foot is sticking out of the ground.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
You couldn't help me with all your powers, you black widow,
you couldn't help me.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
It was just a bunch of people in Sweden and
you couldn't help me. And then flores p would say,
you knew the future, your character knows the future. How
did you not see that coming? How did you not leave? Yeah?
I gotta go. I'd like to see that.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Maybe you just wanted to see if they'd really go
through with it.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Ah, but yeah, look, and this affects everything we do.
Here is now the biggest story of the week. And
now Twitter is rebranded as X.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
Baby, lets put the X and social media. Twitter is
like a muscle, and you make me want of flex.
Maybe lets put the X in Twitter.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
I don't know if the random sound X with his arms.
Now we're doing bad exit so carry.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Twitter's rebranded as X, which is in line with everything
Elon Musk does, making everything like SpaceX. Yeah, a lot
of ex Did you see what he did?
Speaker 3 (07:01):
They were trying to change stuff out and then the
cops had to shut him down. Yeah, they were doing
stuff with the logo.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
I mean, I gotta you got no permits. I got
on Twitter today, it was fine, and then then I
got back on twenty minutes later. No, but it's now X.
Now it's X. Let's put and I'll tell you how
this is all gonna go all right, because I've seen this,
I understand, I'm an influencer, I'm lots of things. I'll
tell you how this is all gonna end because a
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lot of this, right, a lot of this is just
like Hollywood and ESPN struggling the way they are. Okay,
that's what I have to do with this, right. We
talked a few minutes ago about Barbie that going to
the movies used to be a default for all of us.
We went to the movies all the time, and you
would go see a movie every weekend, and you would
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go see if you saw the best three movies that
were out, you would go see the fourth best movie,
the fifth, Let's go see this, let's go through. Going
to the movies was a default, partly because we didn't
know any better, but partly because there were no or
their options. And then what happened. Two things happen at once.
The pandemic happened and streaming happened, and we realize very
quickly that hey, there's other options out there. I don't
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need to go to the movies all the time. I
don't need to do that. I can do other things.
You know, when I look at the movies now and
I go in, I watch a trailer and I go,
m am, I gonna have more fun doing something else
on a Friday night or a Saturday night or going
to see that movie? And you how many times the
answer is doing something else? Like am I gonna have
a better time on a Saturday night doing something or
going to see Haunted Mansion or going to see Napoleon?
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Most of the answer doing something else. Right, So, now
that we have choices, the movies are still gonna be there,
but we're all doing other things. And so that has
cut into and will forever cut into what Hollywood is.
It's the same thing with ESPN, Right, Why is ESPN
struggling now? Their programming is struggling. They're struggling on the radio,
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they're struggling on TV, they're struggling everywhere. Because what's happened
is other entities have come up to challenge ESPN and
now have taken big bites out of them. When I
was at ESPN, we had a meeting about what ESPN
was the most afraid of over the because this is like,
this is like a twelve year so it's very prescient. Clowns.
This is a very very very afraid of clowns, clowns
(09:16):
down the street. We had a meeting of what was
going to uh, what ESPN was afraid of, and they
were they they were never afraid of another entity coming
and saying we're now taking over sports, right, They were
never afraid of that. But what they were afraid of
was that other entities coming in and taking bites out
of them. And so they had us visual it was
(09:37):
a shark, and it was you know, these other animals,
the other other smaller animals come in every week and
like all these other things taking bites out of the shark.
And they said, we worry that MLB network is going
to come in and suddenly become again. This is twelve
years and this is the beginning of MLB NFL network
starting to get a lot of run. The MLB Network's
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going to come in and take and take a bite
out and NFL networks going to come and take a
and now we're not going to be your destination anymore.
We're going to be a destination, but not the destination
because if you want Women's World Cup, your destination is
Fox Sports one right where it used to always be ESPN.
If you want mma if you want WWE all these
different things. Sometimes it's ESPN, sometimes it's not. And this
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was they were the worldwide leader. And what's happened is
that over the course of the last few years there
have become other destinations. So that's never going to be
what it was. There's way it's in twenty ESPN's in
twenty five million less homes than it was the beginning
of the decade. When you think it's nothing but unadulterated growth,
that's what happens. That's what's going to happen to Twitter.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Okay, the carriage costs got prohibitive, right, but especially if
you're not one that's going to watch a lot of
ESPN and the highlight shows were go to I mean
think of Dan Patrick, Yeah, Keith Oldman, I don't need it.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Times, I got.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Guys that are string capturing in their basement.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Times put it up and things change. But the point
is is that what's happened to the movie and what's
happened to ESPN is what's gonna happen to Twitter. Like,
is Twitter gonna go away? No, Twitter's really really big.
It will still be around. But what's gonna happen is
now because Elon Musk has decided that no matter what,
I'm gonna piss off everybody that's using the medium, and
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you see people want to leave. Maybe Threads winds up
being something good, maybe Blue Sky is something good, maybe
something else comes up, who knows. But what's gonna happen
is now there's going to be just other destinations for
social media. Twitter will still be around, but it's never
gonna be close to what it was. Other sites will
do well, other destinations will do well. And it's gonna
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affect us here in sports because it's gonna be where
are people gonna break news?
Speaker 5 (11:41):
Right?
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Because that's where we're gonna go. Where are people gonna
break news? Where are people gonna post highlights? Where a
people gonna post things that just happened. Where are we
gonna see immediate press conferences? Where is that going to go?
And if it's still Twitter, it's still Twitter. But if
it's Twitter in a couple other places, it's Twitter in
a couple other places. So that's how this is all
going down. This is not gonna end with Twitter going on.
Elon mustang, well, I just threw away forty four billion dollars. No,
(12:03):
it's going to be Twitter is going to be worth
a lot less. It will still be a destination, but
it won't be the destination. And these other ones that
come up, maybe some of them survive, maybe some of
them don't. But there will be challengers that rise up
and do well.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
You know.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Look, NFL Network did great challenging ESPN. The Football Network,
which is round for a couple of years, did not
do well. There's going to be some that do well
and some that don't. I was part of network, Chad
had chosen the other one.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
The other one didn't get announced until we were already
producing content.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
But that's how it was.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Because they were supposed to get a bunch of games
and the NFL Films catalog, well guess what that all
went away, So all money spent prepping to do that.
I mean, we literally did a fantasy show. It was
me and Jerry Glandville Wow Share it in the Odds
Maker and okay, I forget who the host was, but
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we were doing a show and they'd beat me in
and we'd do a couple of segments really good, and
I guess we were really funny advice segments.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
If you were, we had a good report.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
We had had a good time, but the idea was that,
you know, they were going to build out this and
we were on Spike TV back when it was just
Baywatch and infomercials. And then NFL Network gets announced, all right,
all those rights they'd been spending all this lawyering money
to try to acquire, it's all sunk costs. That money's gone.
(13:25):
You did your burn rate and you got nothing to
show for it. Because that was the other thing. The
cost of doing business and trying to get rights to
live events started to shoot up because you had so
many different entities. And that's before streaming, Yeah right, I mean,
and then just look how it's evolved from there. So
you have the fractionalization. And I think one of the
big things to always remember is as our demographics change
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and people become more in tune with how the business
now plays out, Like it's one thing. Sixty seven year
old folks. They're entrenched, right, They're not changing their habits.
They're not ready to go and adopt some new technology
like damn it, give me my Sports Center highlights, Give
me my highlights you know from whichever you know sports network.
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I'm watching and I'm never gonna change those younger folks
if it's easier and cheaper to go somewhere else. See,
I got a nap on my phone. It's just a
click of my thumb and I'm in and I'm watching
or I'm on. So like Twitter will have its space
because so much time has been invested and you're not
gonna give away whatever. I'm out of followers real or purchased,
(14:32):
so easily.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
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Speaker 1 (14:40):
We can't get pushed once. We can't get pushed just once.
Maybe to long show. You know, it's gonnap. We're gonna
get pushed it by salt and pepper.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
But in the end, don't beg. Man, the more you
beg the more he's gonna just mock you.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Because I'm hoping people say, hey, Tyson, yeah, how about
you do the right thing? And you know, but that's
what I'm hoping for. Over there, there's there's there's pressure
and influence that says, hey, yeah how about that. Yeah, No,
he's I don't think he works that way. I'll just
have to sing, I wanna push you air around please.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Well I will, well, I will, I mean, unless you're
gonna strum a guitar, Well I will, and give the
smolder to that camera over there.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
You know, if I could do it over again right now,
I'll get deep money. Now if I could do my
life over again, if I did life over again when
I got to high school, you want a McDonald's. No, no, no,
come on dude. That was the first one waiting. And
if you have the debate on on X to the
X on, if you have three dollars, what are you
buying with the McDonald's value menu And the answer was
(15:40):
to mcdoubles and a drink. And now I'm like, damn skippy.
The answers to mcdoubles and a drink. You get that.
Give me too, mcdoubles and a drinking at three dollars.
Give it to me, Give it to me, Give it
to me. Give me. Now, Now we go into nineteen
eighty four pricing. If I well, no, because because that
stuff is like it was, it was all it was
just I know, I get it. If I could go back,
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I mean there's everybody's going, oh my god, if you
could turn that could turn back. Yeah, I turn Yankees,
Giants and Nets. I would not first of all, yes, yes,
well no, why the nets? The nets? The nets come
on fun. No, no, no, I would have gone. I would
have gone, uh, let's see hang on it. In high school,
I would have gone Yankees. Oh no, I probably would
(16:23):
have gone Lakers, Lakers, Dodgers and oh no, no, Mets
were still eighty six. I mean, thank god you didn't
go Lakers, uh, Dodge Dodgers. Maybe yeah, stop this, maybe,
I mean, I know what he's doing here.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Look at what we did.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
We went down this portal. Maybe he's now gone to
the dark. I could go back, if I could go
back when I got to high school, instead of playing football,
because that was one of the I I I can't believe.
I just can't. I hated it. I hated I hated
I hated it for three years. I hated it. I
would instead learn to play guitar and playing a band
with my friends. That's what I would do. That that
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would be my outside thing. That's what I would do.
I would I would forget about it. I'm five, I'm
five five, I'm not I'm not very fast. What am
I doing? Why am I playing football? Because I'm stupid.
That's why I would go back and I play the guitar,
and that's what I would do, and I would be
that guy and I would play, Hey, hey, come we
got more band is playing and all that. That's what
I would do if I could do I would play Yeah,
I turned back time.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
I would have been sharing the well, yeah, the I
wore the yeah, exactly got the legs for it.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
But the uh, I would have why you know, I'm
picturing you and fish nets and high heels running down
the street.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Maybe I'm doctor Frankenfurd, you do know. But but I
would have ignored the the noise and family stuff and
I would have done theater. Okay, I didn't do that,
and that now that we do live theater four hours
a night now like hey.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Blake, you I finally did it.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
But yeah, I done the theater in the fish nets
and the high heels. I would have been your well
I would and tied together.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Yeah, but back in the day that was not really
an acceptable thing in my my family.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Okay, so I'm trying that would the pressure you be Eddie?
You ride the motorcycle up and down the stairs. I
want to be Riff, Can I be rep I'm rem
I'm ref riff.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Okay, this would be actually part of a theater company,
not me in my basement.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Doing rocky harm with the harm and payon. Let's go
show my version. I would I would do it? Well
oh well, well but yes, the guitar would be part two.
It would be, it would be, it would be so great. Uh.
The big NFL story of this weekend the running backs
meeting on Zoom because they're all very upset that nobody's
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making money and that said Barkley, well, they're not making
obscene amounts of money. That's making big money. They're not
getting long term contracts or not doing it. And Saquon Barkley,
of course, this was brought to the forefront with Barkley
and Josh Jacobs uh basically being told, hey, we're not
going to sign you to long term contracts. So you
have last year's rushing champion and Barkley, who had a
big bounce back year for the Giants. Giants have Super
(19:08):
Bowl dreams.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
This year's coming back off of injury injured college a
little bit different.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
He's coming off of injury, but Jacobs is coming off
the rushing champions.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Yeah, but he was also a guy they didn't like
enough to give him his fifty year option at first,
So like, what did they really think about like, cause
that's you've got to remember the whole timelines. And with Eckler,
you were the undrafted guy. You are why this system
and why it's so pervasive.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
So they had this big conference call, which I would
have loved to been on right now. Oh yeah, entering
the call is King Henry. You are now in the
call with everybody. Oh he thinks he's a king. King
Henry's and Derrick Henrys and I that's great, that's great.
I'd love to be on that call.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Yeah, just hear the guys introduced themselves. But how much
of it was about the issue at hand and how
much was grab ass about the summers that they had trips,
they took things, they did, things they did and stuff
of that nature.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Here, let me show you some of my photos. Now
I have reality and I have hope. Right, reality, I
have hope. Now, hope is not what you're thinking. It's
a dangerous thing. That's not what you're thinking of the
reality is it's great that they want to get together
and outside of all of them deciding we want to
hold out for people to get more money. Nothing is
going to happen. I mean, look, it's a good therapy.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Nobody else understands your place.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
What what do we see coming out of it?
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Was nothing that they were There were no solutions discussed,
but they just got together.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
You guys doing you know, man, you know what you're doing.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
Good.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Yeah, there's no solution, right. I hate to say it,
but this, all of this going on is there is
zero solution. It was a bad deal in the CBA.
There's seven more years to go and what you know what,
that's what you do for your next CBA. We want
to make sure that running back's taken care of. So
for that position, we're going to put in that after
three years you can hit free ange or something like that,
(21:02):
and you can't control us. You can only franchise us
whatever it's going to be. That's you're gonna have to
put in because you are stuck. I'm sorry, but there
is no other outcome to this. So anything we say
we should do this for running backs, you not to this.
Running backs not to the No, that's it. I'm sorry.
This is a This is a wire conversation where maybe
you didn't like what the wire had to show you.
But this is who we were in the United States, right,
(21:23):
So this is what we are. This is a wire conversation.
There's nothing to be done. Do you have to just play?
You play great and make money year to year. That's
what you have to do. If you're running and I
get the running backs, you're sitting there right now going
so my whole career has to come and go before
a change is done. Yeah, unfortunately, but you know what,
you had your guys sign a bad I'm sorry about that,
but you had your guy. Your guys signed a bad deal.
(21:44):
There's nothing you can do. Play well and you'll still
get reward. It's not like you're not gonna make money.
It's just boy, I want those three four you Yeah,
everybody wants. But if you play well, you're still gonna
be stake one. Barkley is still gonna make ten million
dollars nexty okay, and if he gets franchise again, he's
gonna make thirteen million dollars. So in the end, it's
two years, twenty three million dollars.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
All of what.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
If I get hurt, well, it's it's football. The same
thing for everybody. They get hurt. They can hurt, they
can hurt. A right guard is not gonna make a
lot of right guard gets hurt, he gets replaced. So
there's no solution other than play well and you just
have to get paid year to year. There's everything else
you want to talk about is great, but the reality
is this is what it is.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
Yeah, I mean we've talked about it for a long time.
The holes in the CBA and where some of the
things players fought for, you know, the ownership and Goodell
as the head and you know, going up with Demorris Smith.
It's been like you want that. We didn't even have
that on our whiteboard.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Yeah. Sure, Like the day is off.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
It's like, I maybe the product's a little sloppier, but
we don't have to give them this this and this
right the healthcare long term and whatever else. They continue
to kick that can down the road because the players
want money now. And I understand it, right, You're you're
trying to do both things and serve both your your
current players players coming into the league and take a
(23:07):
good look at the veterans. But if you're a player now,
you're worried about how much you can maximize and when
the CBA was signed. That was it right there, you
had the franchise tag has been around for a long time.
No change is went in that, right. I've seen folks
theorizing it's like, well, maybe you do it where they've
got to do different pools of money. This was like
(23:29):
the the golf in NASCAR Fantasy leagues. I was telling
you about. It's like, well, if you're in this pool,
this is the matching Yet it's like, I can't spend
that money in any No, you can't. It's all it's
in each but it just doesn't work. Like you're not
going to treat running backs differently all of a sudden.
If you can fight for the change for everybody to
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have three years, guess what, you're giving up something big, right,
and that chasm towards long term health plans and all
those other things is going to get that much wider,
right know, evil can evil jump is getting you to
the other side. Fonsi's not making it across that shark, right,
He's not jumping the shark there. It's it's just not
gonna work. So I appreciate, you know, the the gravity
(24:12):
of it from you know, realizing that you're in a
stuck position. But outside of the CBA coming up in
seven years, holding out's doing nothing. There's just way too
many guys waiting for their chance. And while they'll support
you and slap you on the back and say, hey,
you're the best running back in the game right now,
I respect you. I love you, watching you ron, watching
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you catch the ball, you know all those things. The
guys that actually do pick up, blitzing linebackers all great things.
I want your job, So if you're not here, I'm
gonna fight like hell to get it, because you know what,
I'm making minimum and I'm probably not making a roster,
but I can get to where I'm making Austin Eckler
six million dollar money. Yeah, that guy's that's a good
(24:57):
poster on my damn wall, right next Ti Zaya Pacheco
and all those guys that ran for Shanahan all those
years ago in Denver. Those are the poster guys of
how the position goes. Doesn't mean you don't celebrate the
guys that are elite, but you do have to recognize
the position and where it's at. And outside of some
(25:18):
radical ripping up of the CBA, it ain't happening now.
Nothing changing nothing. All right, it becomes a all right,
we understand it. Give us your story, show us your quarterback,
like vignette of your rehab after a week's action. All
the jokes for years where hey, don't have a second
story on your house because on Monday and Tuesday you
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ain't walking up those stairs you're so beat up after
a game.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
All of that.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
I mean, you do that, maybe you get a little
more sympathy. It ain't getting you any more money, no,
And that's the.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Thing is that that's where the hope is. Because here's
my hope is that nothing's going to change. This is
a you got a ball out at year to year,
stay healthy, get paid year to year. That's how it's
got to go. For running back, That's exactly how you
got to do it. But the one thing that I
hope will change is that since this came up, this
is a tough topic. Right, it's a tough topic because
I understand that the running backs want to get paid
(26:09):
more and that this has gone away to them and
they get they they have an unbelievably physical toll that
they have to deal with. They're out of the league
by the age of thirty. I understand this. I wish
that people would be a little bit more receptive and
understanding of that, rather than just jump around and say,
why the hell should you get paid? You're replaceable? You stink?
(26:29):
After that? Yo, why when that doesn't worth any money?
Let let's I don't understand where where that became the
default first reaction to, hey man, this sucks that we're
not getting paid. I might have to hold out, well,
why should I pay you? Whoa whoa, whoa, whoa whoa.
These guys are good. These not like you have guys
holding out for more money that stink. This is Saquon
(26:50):
Barkley had a big year and Christian McCaffrey's been really good.
These guys, hey, wait, wait a minute, Wait a minute,
we want a little bit more money. We want to
be able to take care of our families for generations.
Because I don't know what my quality of life is
going to be when I leave the NFL. I'm sacrificing
a lot, and I wish it that would have been
a little bit more of the reaction to see the
people that just jumped on top of them like they
(27:10):
were anger. Oh, how dare you say that you guys
aren't worth it? I'm not paying you a single dime,
not one red dime, has damn like to say. I
wish that would change. And because that's what's really upset
me through this whole thing, is that running backs want
to get more money and everybody knows they're getting screwed,
and everywhere they go they have to read about it
(27:31):
and see people on TV say I would never pay you, guys,
I would never pay you guys. Be at a little
more tact, a little more understanding of the situation and say, hey,
I'm sorry, but here's the reality of the situation with
your position and what you play. It's X, Y and Z.
I just wish that was a little bit more done,
and I hope yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Man, you know you're trying to nuance the conversations you can,
but I mean, you can't totally ignore the reality of it.
Maybe you don't speak about it and screen it saying year,
but because of the injury history, because of the many
heavy miles that they've logged through high school and college, right,
body's only got so many of those, like they say,
(28:10):
how many heart beats you've got? Whatever else, same thing
for a running back. Eventually that wall does come and
nobody wants to be on the hook having given up
a lot of guaranteed money, because that's really it year
to year, and and ten million dollars is a pretty
good wage, right And at this point you know the
cost of doing business. You know what the CBA is.
And they always said, Mama, don't let your babies grow
(28:31):
up to be cowboys. They're not reclassifying the position. Don't
be a don't be a running back.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Right now you can let them be Jason. It's okay
to be cowboys. It's all yeah. Just remember this is
all your fault. How is it my fault? The running
back situation is all your fault?
Speaker 3 (28:47):
Well, Melvin Gordon, I mean, well, you did sign a
three point one million dollar and with Domins on the on.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
The pup list, it could for Jason and got a
lot of money. Well but millions. I did well. We
but we told him to take the cash. I did,
and he got mad at me.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
We just kept saying, take your cash man. The reality
out there, it's it's a bleak He got the bleak
landscape if you're a running back, and it's tough, but
unfortunately you've got a short shelf life.
Speaker 6 (29:14):
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Here's what I'm nervous about. You're nervous? Yes, okay, okay. Well,
first of all, I look, every day is such a
great day for the Jets. And here's video of Aaron
Rodgers hitting Grett Wilson. Here's Aaron Rodgers having the play
broken up because sauce Gardner is so good. And here's
Aaron Rodgers getting a big piece of jewelry from Sauce Garter. Hey,
you put it on me.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
With the love fest is just so next with every day.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
That goes on, I mean the Jets highlights are all
that all all that we watch all there is now
from nine wins to ten wins, eleven wins, twelve wins.
That sound great, everything is. But here's where I'm nervous. Okay,
here's what I'm nervous because something I I I talked
to you about a few months ago. Today, the Packers
had a big State of the Packers meeting in front
of their season ticket holders, and Mark Murphy, president said, hey,
(30:49):
we're gonna retire Aaron Rodgers number. At some point when
it's appropriate, we'll bring him back. We'll do it.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
So he's just gonna be like Jimmy Johnson in the Oh.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Yeah, yeah, we'll talk about it. We get to worry
about it. Yeah, just call me. Well, they did it
for FARV after a few years and that he was fine.
You wait, and the same thing will happen with Aaron Rodgers.
Now they can do it sooner rather than later. Because
when Mark Murphy said that it was a big round
of a plus. So it's not like Farv who they
were really mad at and he left and came back
with the Vikings. They were really pissed. So that'll happen. Well,
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Rogers hasn't gotten to the Viking gym no this year
and then to the Vikings. But this is what I'm
afraid of now, because you know it's coming, just like
it was for Russell Wilson when he first left Seattle
after a little while honeymoon periods there. You got a
lot of stories about what Russell Wilson was like behind
closed doors in Seattle where he had an office or
(31:40):
he wasn't allowed to people weren't allowed to come up
and talk about things, whatever the story is. And he
spent the entire last year beating back those stories while
he was underachieving. It was a miserable season. You know
that's gonna happen for Aaron Rodgers well.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
And then you had more stories coming out of what
he's doing in Denver exactly exactly it did not have
but to where Sean Payton had to shut all that down.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
Hey do really, we don't do that. Pete Carroll's like
do we need to say no, no, no, dude, stuff's coming
out of Denver. We're good, dude, you're good talking about Gina.
You're good. But that's gonna happen with Aaron Rodgers. We're
going to get those stories of sources. This was Aaron Rodgers' behavior,
what it was like. He said this, He did this
in twenty nineteen, he did this in twenty twenty, ony
this in twenty fifteen. And now here are the packers.
(32:25):
And this is why I'm nervous, because here's the Hey,
we're gonna retire Aaron Rodgers' number. We love him. So
now I'm nervous that in the next couple of days,
we're gonna get one of those stories dropped, and the
packers are gonna go, what us leak this? We just
said that we're gonna retire his number. We love Aaron.
We would never leak a story like this. I'm waiting
for the next couple of days for that first that
(32:45):
first drop, right like when I get my emails about Hey,
new hats are its? Ooh, the new drop is here?
That that's gonna drop, and it's gonna be something that's
gonna just take the air out of the Honeymoon Balloon
with Rogers and the Jets. We're gonna get this is
what Aaron Rodgers did in sixteen, something like that's gonna hapen.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
I really thought you were gonna reference something I said
to both you and executive producer Justin Prosberg a little
bit earlier. We're watching Quarterback on net Netflix. I'm about
halfway through it at this point. So good. So you
have Mahomes and you have Captain Kirk Cousins, who I
think people are finally wanting to give a big hug too.
I mean, who doesn't love Kirk Cousins. And then you
have Marcus Mariota. And so today Peyton Manning confirmed, Hey,
(33:25):
we're coming back for a second year. Three quarterbacks are
involved once again.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Who did I tell you last week? Should be two
of the three? Didn't I tell you Aaron Rodgers and
Daniel Jones. Yeah, I said both of them.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
But yeah, here's here's the thing. It's like, we're gonna
be h We're gonna love the world of Daniel Jones.
Josh Allen's winning the Super Bowl, which means Aaron Rodgers
is in for hell no, yeah, if it's gonna if
it's gonna go according.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
To the script. I don't see it that way. I
see I think it's gonna run a little bit differently,
where you're gonna have these teams intersect and rivalries and
playing each other and other. But look, that's what's gonna happen.
That's what I'm nervous about with Rogers, that this is
how it's going to go. We're gonna get those stories.
We're gonna get at least two of them by the
beginning of the season. It's we're like, okay, you want
it out now, now, Now, we're gonna let the people know.
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People are gonna find out somehow about Aaron Rodgers behind
closed doors. It's gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
When we get behind closed doors. See, we can get
country songs in from sixty years ago to Twitter.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
And how about a sorry ex sad? How about a
Fresca Mike, it's swollen dull coming. You didn't have time
to sing it this time. We got more coming up
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Columbia leads South Korea to nothing. Women's World Cup. Really
bad goal, second goal South Korea.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
First one game on a penalty kick off handball, and
then the second just misjudged, came off the line trying
to trying to make a play, and then it's the
old if you're an outfielder, first steps always got to be.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Back, not forward. No, it was real. I was like ooh,
that's a bit.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
It's time the jump. You know, everything that could go
wrong did. Then it opens up to a nil nil lead.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
As we go to have there goes my dvring this,
so you're we No, I'm just live on Fox, got
FS one. Let's go and say, oh, you ruined Barbie
for me, ruined Oppenheimer for me, ruined all the No,
it's live sports. I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Hey, you know what inn Oppenheimer might be? An explosion?
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Yeah, I heard it was the bomb. Oh wow, too soon?
Come on that. Wow, it's too soon. So I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
I kept seeing the clip in my timeline today, the
old interview that the actual Oppenheimer did where he's quoting.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
I am Destroyer of worlds, Like, that's creepy, that's that's
Christopher Nolan takes it in the in the other direction,
like the alternate reality where he actually puts the power.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Glove on and he turned into Thanos. Yeah, because really,
what did you really develop? It's like, wow, that was
all misdirection. Over here, I've got a gauntlet. I you know,
I'm still trying to find somebody who's seen it that
can tell me for certain it's a straight ahead beginning
to end movie. There's no craziness, there's no alternate reality,
there's not no no one. There was an estimate that
(02:25):
sixty six to eight percent of the people that saw
Oppenheimer only did so because Barbie was sold out at
the time. They oh, yeah, sure that that's like a
throwback two years ago when you go to the movies
and go, oh, we can't get tickets. This is salt,
so we went to go see this instead. You do
that all the time.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Did you buy the sixty five dollars popcorn bucket? No, no,
it's a cattle appcorn. There was no we went to
last night for Barbie there. I'm sorry, that doesn't mean
it might now still had a plastic tubb.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Or the squishy machine was out and they didn't have
any They didn't have any big any snacks really called
a squish? No, I like called a squish. I got
a blueberry squishy and nothing. I'm like, I gotta go
through this movie with a warm soda because there was
no ice, and and and and and that's it, just
that of popcorn. What are you doing to me? First
world problems? What are you doing to me? Why they
watching this Barbie movie? But yeah, people working playing.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
It's like, all right, you get a Barbie doll, you
get a Barbie Cadillac, and you get popcorn.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
And then you get match Bucks twenty. I want to
push you around. Well I will.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Well, I gave away the guitar too. That was in
the that was in the trades today. So there you go, BTS.
Someone now has that guitar. Maybe he'll pick it up
and sing to the.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Oh was that why he was getting congratulated on Twitter? Sorry?
Speaker 3 (03:36):
On X on x x X means so many different things.
I liked that six the musical came in. It's like, oh,
now everybody's talking about us, the ex wives, all the
uh dearly departed uh. And then you have uh, you
know x x's uh Xavier McDaniel's picture showing up in
my timeline.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
A lot today. So that was good.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
And you got X the movie with Jenn Ortega.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Yeah, much different than this. Yeah, Zoe said to me
the other day because she likes horror movies. Now she goes, hey,
I just allowed her to see Hereditary and she was saying,
I want to see Midsummer thought it was terrible. No,
I thought that. I thought the first half Hereditary was
one of the best horror movies I've ever seen. In
the second half, I thought it was like, oh, that's
what it is.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
But the first half I was already pot committed, so
I just stayed with it.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
The first half it was so good, like this is
an insanely good movie. And I'm like, oh, okay, that's
how it's gonna end. Which I was like, okay, I'm
glad you stayed with it. I mean, you like the
first half. But she said I didn't.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Can I see X?
Speaker 1 (04:31):
I said, just over the weekend? I said no, and
Pam looks at me and says, why not. I go, no,
can't see We've seen it in the studio. Can't see X.
Why waiting to go on air? I said no, and
she's like why. I said no, and Pam was like,
all right, I gotta. I gotta look it up and
look it up. And I sat there drumming my fingers.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
I go look it up, for it, look it up,
wait for it, look it up, look it up.
Speaker 5 (04:51):
Dah.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Now you see right?
Speaker 5 (04:54):
Ah?
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Yeah, I can't see X yet. Can't sye X yet?
Speaker 2 (04:56):
No?
Speaker 1 (04:56):
No, no, no, no, but now look how about midsommer? No? No,
I can't believe you showed your kids Midsummer. If it
wasn't for the scene at the end, I would say okay.
When when he's in the the room, I'm like, no,
I know, okay, no you can. You have to wait
to see that one. You have to wait to see
(05:17):
that I don't know.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Then we celebrate the rest of it order in Criminal Minds,
mids Midsummer.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Was and an insanely good movie. I keep saying insane.
It's one of those movies where I saw it once
and I never want to see it again. It was
so good, but I never want to see it again.
Never Like a Mats game. No, yeah, once, I never
want to see it again. But had cheating in it,
and you know, cheaty fun sorry, cheaty? How about cheat
how about I never thought about this? Now Cheaty and
Florence Pew are both in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Now
(05:47):
it's pretty good, right. I want to have a scene
where he walks up there, he goes, hey, what happened?
My foot is sticking out of the ground.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
You couldn't help me with all your powers, you black widow,
you couldn't help me.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
It was just a bunch of people in Sweden and
you couldn't help me. And then flores p would say,
you knew the future, your character knows the future. How
did you not see that coming? How did you not leave? Yeah?
I gotta go. I'd like to see that.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Maybe you just wanted to see if they'd really go
through with it.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Ah, but yeah, look, and this affects everything we do.
Here is now the biggest story of the week. And
now Twitter is rebranded as X.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
Baby, lets put the X and social media. Twitter is
like a muscle, and you make me want of flex.
Maybe lets put the X in Twitter.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
I don't know if the random sound X with his arms.
Now we're doing bad exit so carry.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Twitter's rebranded as X, which is in line with everything
Elon Musk does, making everything like SpaceX. Yeah, a lot
of ex Did you see what he did?
Speaker 3 (07:01):
They were trying to change stuff out and then the
cops had to shut him down. Yeah, they were doing
stuff with the logo.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
I mean, I gotta you got no permits. I got
on Twitter today, it was fine, and then then I
got back on twenty minutes later. No, but it's now X.
Now it's X. Let's put and I'll tell you how
this is all gonna go all right, because I've seen this,
I understand, I'm an influencer, I'm lots of things. I'll
tell you how this is all gonna end because a
(07:28):
lot of this, right, a lot of this is just
like Hollywood and ESPN struggling the way they are. Okay,
that's what I have to do with this, right. We
talked a few minutes ago about Barbie that going to
the movies used to be a default for all of us.
We went to the movies all the time, and you
would go see a movie every weekend, and you would
(07:49):
go see if you saw the best three movies that
were out, you would go see the fourth best movie,
the fifth, Let's go see this, let's go through. Going
to the movies was a default, partly because we didn't
know any better, but partly because there were no or
their options. And then what happened. Two things happen at once.
The pandemic happened and streaming happened, and we realize very
quickly that hey, there's other options out there. I don't
(08:12):
need to go to the movies all the time. I
don't need to do that. I can do other things.
You know, when I look at the movies now and
I go in, I watch a trailer and I go,
m am, I gonna have more fun doing something else
on a Friday night or a Saturday night or going
to see that movie? And you how many times the
answer is doing something else? Like am I gonna have
a better time on a Saturday night doing something or
going to see Haunted Mansion or going to see Napoleon?
(08:35):
Most of the answer doing something else. Right, So, now
that we have choices, the movies are still gonna be there,
but we're all doing other things. And so that has
cut into and will forever cut into what Hollywood is.
It's the same thing with ESPN, Right, Why is ESPN
struggling now? Their programming is struggling. They're struggling on the radio,
(08:56):
they're struggling on TV, they're struggling everywhere. Because what's happened
is other entities have come up to challenge ESPN and
now have taken big bites out of them. When I
was at ESPN, we had a meeting about what ESPN
was the most afraid of over the because this is like,
this is like a twelve year so it's very prescient. Clowns.
This is a very very very afraid of clowns, clowns
(09:16):
down the street. We had a meeting of what was
going to uh, what ESPN was afraid of, and they
were they they were never afraid of another entity coming
and saying we're now taking over sports, right, They were
never afraid of that. But what they were afraid of
was that other entities coming in and taking bites out
of them. And so they had us visual it was
(09:37):
a shark, and it was you know, these other animals,
the other other smaller animals come in every week and
like all these other things taking bites out of the shark.
And they said, we worry that MLB network is going
to come in and suddenly become again. This is twelve
years and this is the beginning of MLB NFL network
starting to get a lot of run. The MLB Network's
(09:57):
going to come in and take and take a bite
out and NFL networks going to come and take a
and now we're not going to be your destination anymore.
We're going to be a destination, but not the destination
because if you want Women's World Cup, your destination is
Fox Sports one right where it used to always be ESPN.
If you want mma if you want WWE all these
different things. Sometimes it's ESPN, sometimes it's not. And this
(10:18):
was they were the worldwide leader. And what's happened is
that over the course of the last few years there
have become other destinations. So that's never going to be
what it was. There's way it's in twenty ESPN's in
twenty five million less homes than it was the beginning
of the decade. When you think it's nothing but unadulterated growth,
that's what happens. That's what's going to happen to Twitter.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Okay, the carriage costs got prohibitive, right, but especially if
you're not one that's going to watch a lot of
ESPN and the highlight shows were go to I mean
think of Dan Patrick, Yeah, Keith Oldman, I don't need it.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Times, I got.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Guys that are string capturing in their basement.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Times put it up and things change. But the point
is is that what's happened to the movie and what's
happened to ESPN is what's gonna happen to Twitter. Like,
is Twitter gonna go away? No, Twitter's really really big.
It will still be around. But what's gonna happen is
now because Elon Musk has decided that no matter what,
I'm gonna piss off everybody that's using the medium, and
(11:16):
you see people want to leave. Maybe Threads winds up
being something good, maybe Blue Sky is something good, maybe
something else comes up, who knows. But what's gonna happen
is now there's going to be just other destinations for
social media. Twitter will still be around, but it's never
gonna be close to what it was. Other sites will
do well, other destinations will do well. And it's gonna
(11:37):
affect us here in sports because it's gonna be where
are people gonna break news?
Speaker 5 (11:41):
Right?
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Because that's where we're gonna go. Where are people gonna
break news? Where are people gonna post highlights? Where a
people gonna post things that just happened. Where are we
gonna see immediate press conferences? Where is that going to go?
And if it's still Twitter, it's still Twitter. But if
it's Twitter in a couple other places, it's Twitter in
a couple other places. So that's how this is all
going down. This is not gonna end with Twitter going on.
Elon mustang, well, I just threw away forty four billion dollars. No,
(12:03):
it's going to be Twitter is going to be worth
a lot less. It will still be a destination, but
it won't be the destination. And these other ones that
come up, maybe some of them survive, maybe some of
them don't. But there will be challengers that rise up
and do well.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
You know.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Look, NFL Network did great challenging ESPN. The Football Network,
which is round for a couple of years, did not
do well. There's going to be some that do well
and some that don't. I was part of network, Chad
had chosen the other one.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
The other one didn't get announced until we were already
producing content.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
But that's how it was.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Because they were supposed to get a bunch of games
and the NFL Films catalog, well guess what that all
went away, So all money spent prepping to do that.
I mean, we literally did a fantasy show. It was
me and Jerry Glandville Wow Share it in the Odds
Maker and okay, I forget who the host was, but
(12:53):
we were doing a show and they'd beat me in
and we'd do a couple of segments really good, and
I guess we were really funny advice segments.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
If you were, we had a good report.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
We had had a good time, but the idea was that,
you know, they were going to build out this and
we were on Spike TV back when it was just
Baywatch and infomercials. And then NFL Network gets announced, all right,
all those rights they'd been spending all this lawyering money
to try to acquire, it's all sunk costs. That money's gone.
(13:25):
You did your burn rate and you got nothing to
show for it. Because that was the other thing. The
cost of doing business and trying to get rights to
live events started to shoot up because you had so
many different entities. And that's before streaming, Yeah right, I mean,
and then just look how it's evolved from there. So
you have the fractionalization. And I think one of the
big things to always remember is as our demographics change
(13:48):
and people become more in tune with how the business
now plays out, Like it's one thing. Sixty seven year
old folks. They're entrenched, right, They're not changing their habits.
They're not ready to go and adopt some new technology
like damn it, give me my Sports Center highlights, Give
me my highlights you know from whichever you know sports network.
(14:09):
I'm watching and I'm never gonna change those younger folks
if it's easier and cheaper to go somewhere else. See,
I got a nap on my phone. It's just a
click of my thumb and I'm in and I'm watching
or I'm on. So like Twitter will have its space
because so much time has been invested and you're not
gonna give away whatever. I'm out of followers real or purchased,
(14:32):
so easily.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
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Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
We can't get pushed once. We can't get pushed just once.
Maybe to long show. You know, it's gonnap. We're gonna
get pushed it by salt and pepper.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
But in the end, don't beg. Man, the more you
beg the more he's gonna just mock you.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Because I'm hoping people say, hey, Tyson, yeah, how about
you do the right thing? And you know, but that's
what I'm hoping for. Over there, there's there's there's pressure
and influence that says, hey, yeah how about that. Yeah, No,
he's I don't think he works that way. I'll just
have to sing, I wanna push you air around please.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Well I will, well, I will, I mean, unless you're
gonna strum a guitar, Well I will, and give the
smolder to that camera over there.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
You know, if I could do it over again right now,
I'll get deep money. Now if I could do my
life over again, if I did life over again when
I got to high school, you want a McDonald's. No, no, no,
come on dude. That was the first one waiting. And
if you have the debate on on X to the
X on, if you have three dollars, what are you
buying with the McDonald's value menu And the answer was
(15:40):
to mcdoubles and a drink. And now I'm like, damn skippy.
The answers to mcdoubles and a drink. You get that.
Give me too, mcdoubles and a drinking at three dollars.
Give it to me, Give it to me, Give it
to me. Give me. Now, Now we go into nineteen
eighty four pricing. If I well, no, because because that
stuff is like it was, it was all it was
just I know, I get it. If I could go back,
(16:00):
I mean there's everybody's going, oh my god, if you
could turn that could turn back. Yeah, I turn Yankees,
Giants and Nets. I would not first of all, yes, yes,
well no, why the nets? The nets? The nets come
on fun. No, no, no, I would have gone. I would
have gone, uh, let's see hang on it. In high school,
I would have gone Yankees. Oh no, I probably would
(16:23):
have gone Lakers, Lakers, Dodgers and oh no, no, Mets
were still eighty six. I mean, thank god you didn't
go Lakers, uh, Dodge Dodgers. Maybe yeah, stop this, maybe,
I mean, I know what he's doing here.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Look at what we did.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
We went down this portal. Maybe he's now gone to
the dark. I could go back, if I could go
back when I got to high school, instead of playing football,
because that was one of the I I I can't believe.
I just can't. I hated it. I hated I hated
I hated it for three years. I hated it. I
would instead learn to play guitar and playing a band
with my friends. That's what I would do. That that
(17:03):
would be my outside thing. That's what I would do.
I would I would forget about it. I'm five, I'm
five five, I'm not I'm not very fast. What am
I doing? Why am I playing football? Because I'm stupid.
That's why I would go back and I play the guitar,
and that's what I would do, and I would be
that guy and I would play, Hey, hey, come we
got more band is playing and all that. That's what
I would do if I could do I would play Yeah,
I turned back time.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
I would have been sharing the well, yeah, the I
wore the yeah, exactly got the legs for it.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
But the uh, I would have why you know, I'm
picturing you and fish nets and high heels running down
the street.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Maybe I'm doctor Frankenfurd, you do know. But but I
would have ignored the the noise and family stuff and
I would have done theater. Okay, I didn't do that,
and that now that we do live theater four hours
a night now like hey.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Blake, you I finally did it.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
But yeah, I done the theater in the fish nets
and the high heels. I would have been your well
I would and tied together.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Yeah, but back in the day that was not really
an acceptable thing in my my family.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Okay, so I'm trying that would the pressure you be Eddie?
You ride the motorcycle up and down the stairs. I
want to be Riff, Can I be rep I'm rem
I'm ref riff.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Okay, this would be actually part of a theater company,
not me in my basement.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Doing rocky harm with the harm and payon. Let's go
show my version. I would I would do it? Well
oh well, well but yes, the guitar would be part two.
It would be, it would be, it would be so great. Uh.
The big NFL story of this weekend the running backs
meeting on Zoom because they're all very upset that nobody's
(18:46):
making money and that said Barkley, well, they're not making
obscene amounts of money. That's making big money. They're not
getting long term contracts or not doing it. And Saquon Barkley,
of course, this was brought to the forefront with Barkley
and Josh Jacobs uh basically being told, hey, we're not
going to sign you to long term contracts. So you
have last year's rushing champion and Barkley, who had a
big bounce back year for the Giants. Giants have Super
(19:08):
Bowl dreams.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
This year's coming back off of injury injured college a
little bit different.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
He's coming off of injury, but Jacobs is coming off
the rushing champions.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Yeah, but he was also a guy they didn't like
enough to give him his fifty year option at first,
So like, what did they really think about like, cause
that's you've got to remember the whole timelines. And with Eckler,
you were the undrafted guy. You are why this system
and why it's so pervasive.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
So they had this big conference call, which I would
have loved to been on right now. Oh yeah, entering
the call is King Henry. You are now in the
call with everybody. Oh he thinks he's a king. King
Henry's and Derrick Henrys and I that's great, that's great.
I'd love to be on that call.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Yeah, just hear the guys introduced themselves. But how much
of it was about the issue at hand and how
much was grab ass about the summers that they had trips,
they took things, they did, things they did and stuff
of that nature.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Here, let me show you some of my photos. Now
I have reality and I have hope. Right, reality, I
have hope. Now, hope is not what you're thinking. It's
a dangerous thing. That's not what you're thinking of the
reality is it's great that they want to get together
and outside of all of them deciding we want to
hold out for people to get more money. Nothing is
going to happen. I mean, look, it's a good therapy.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Nobody else understands your place.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
What what do we see coming out of it?
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Was nothing that they were There were no solutions discussed,
but they just got together.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
You guys doing you know, man, you know what you're doing.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
Good.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Yeah, there's no solution, right. I hate to say it,
but this, all of this going on is there is
zero solution. It was a bad deal in the CBA.
There's seven more years to go and what you know what,
that's what you do for your next CBA. We want
to make sure that running back's taken care of. So
for that position, we're going to put in that after
three years you can hit free ange or something like that,
(21:02):
and you can't control us. You can only franchise us
whatever it's going to be. That's you're gonna have to
put in because you are stuck. I'm sorry, but there
is no other outcome to this. So anything we say
we should do this for running backs, you not to this.
Running backs not to the No, that's it. I'm sorry.
This is a This is a wire conversation where maybe
you didn't like what the wire had to show you.
But this is who we were in the United States, right,
(21:23):
So this is what we are. This is a wire conversation.
There's nothing to be done. Do you have to just play?
You play great and make money year to year. That's
what you have to do. If you're running and I
get the running backs, you're sitting there right now going
so my whole career has to come and go before
a change is done. Yeah, unfortunately, but you know what,
you had your guys sign a bad I'm sorry about that,
but you had your guy. Your guys signed a bad deal.
(21:44):
There's nothing you can do. Play well and you'll still
get reward. It's not like you're not gonna make money.
It's just boy, I want those three four you Yeah,
everybody wants. But if you play well, you're still gonna
be stake one. Barkley is still gonna make ten million
dollars nexty okay, and if he gets franchise again, he's
gonna make thirteen million dollars. So in the end, it's
two years, twenty three million dollars.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
All of what.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
If I get hurt, well, it's it's football. The same
thing for everybody. They get hurt. They can hurt, they
can hurt. A right guard is not gonna make a
lot of right guard gets hurt, he gets replaced. So
there's no solution other than play well and you just
have to get paid year to year. There's everything else
you want to talk about is great, but the reality
is this is what it is.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
Yeah, I mean we've talked about it for a long time.
The holes in the CBA and where some of the
things players fought for, you know, the ownership and Goodell
as the head and you know, going up with Demorris Smith.
It's been like you want that. We didn't even have
that on our whiteboard.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Yeah. Sure, Like the day is off.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
It's like, I maybe the product's a little sloppier, but
we don't have to give them this this and this
right the healthcare long term and whatever else. They continue
to kick that can down the road because the players
want money now. And I understand it, right, You're you're
trying to do both things and serve both your your
current players players coming into the league and take a
(23:07):
good look at the veterans. But if you're a player now,
you're worried about how much you can maximize and when
the CBA was signed. That was it right there, you
had the franchise tag has been around for a long time.
No change is went in that, right. I've seen folks
theorizing it's like, well, maybe you do it where they've
got to do different pools of money. This was like
(23:29):
the the golf in NASCAR Fantasy leagues. I was telling
you about. It's like, well, if you're in this pool,
this is the matching Yet it's like, I can't spend
that money in any No, you can't. It's all it's
in each but it just doesn't work. Like you're not
going to treat running backs differently all of a sudden.
If you can fight for the change for everybody to
(23:50):
have three years, guess what, you're giving up something big, right,
and that chasm towards long term health plans and all
those other things is going to get that much wider,
right know, evil can evil jump is getting you to
the other side. Fonsi's not making it across that shark, right,
He's not jumping the shark there. It's it's just not
gonna work. So I appreciate, you know, the the gravity
(24:12):
of it from you know, realizing that you're in a
stuck position. But outside of the CBA coming up in
seven years, holding out's doing nothing. There's just way too
many guys waiting for their chance. And while they'll support
you and slap you on the back and say, hey,
you're the best running back in the game right now,
I respect you. I love you, watching you ron, watching
(24:35):
you catch the ball, you know all those things. The
guys that actually do pick up, blitzing linebackers all great things.
I want your job, So if you're not here, I'm
gonna fight like hell to get it, because you know what,
I'm making minimum and I'm probably not making a roster,
but I can get to where I'm making Austin Eckler
six million dollar money. Yeah, that guy's that's a good
(24:57):
poster on my damn wall, right next Ti Zaya Pacheco
and all those guys that ran for Shanahan all those
years ago in Denver. Those are the poster guys of
how the position goes. Doesn't mean you don't celebrate the
guys that are elite, but you do have to recognize
the position and where it's at. And outside of some
(25:18):
radical ripping up of the CBA, it ain't happening now.
Nothing changing nothing. All right, it becomes a all right,
we understand it. Give us your story, show us your quarterback,
like vignette of your rehab after a week's action. All
the jokes for years where hey, don't have a second
story on your house because on Monday and Tuesday you
(25:38):
ain't walking up those stairs you're so beat up after
a game.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
All of that.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
I mean, you do that, maybe you get a little
more sympathy. It ain't getting you any more money, no,
And that's the.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Thing is that that's where the hope is. Because here's
my hope is that nothing's going to change. This is
a you got a ball out at year to year,
stay healthy, get paid year to year. That's how it's
got to go. For running back, That's exactly how you
got to do it. But the one thing that I
hope will change is that since this came up, this
is a tough topic. Right, it's a tough topic because
I understand that the running backs want to get paid
(26:09):
more and that this has gone away to them and
they get they they have an unbelievably physical toll that
they have to deal with. They're out of the league
by the age of thirty. I understand this. I wish
that people would be a little bit more receptive and
understanding of that, rather than just jump around and say,
why the hell should you get paid? You're replaceable? You stink?
(26:29):
After that? Yo, why when that doesn't worth any money?
Let let's I don't understand where where that became the
default first reaction to, hey man, this sucks that we're
not getting paid. I might have to hold out, well,
why should I pay you? Whoa whoa, whoa, whoa whoa.
These guys are good. These not like you have guys
holding out for more money that stink. This is Saquon
(26:50):
Barkley had a big year and Christian McCaffrey's been really good.
These guys, hey, wait, wait a minute, Wait a minute,
we want a little bit more money. We want to
be able to take care of our families for generations.
Because I don't know what my quality of life is
going to be when I leave the NFL. I'm sacrificing
a lot, and I wish it that would have been
a little bit more of the reaction to see the
people that just jumped on top of them like they
(27:10):
were anger. Oh, how dare you say that you guys
aren't worth it? I'm not paying you a single dime,
not one red dime, has damn like to say. I
wish that would change. And because that's what's really upset
me through this whole thing, is that running backs want
to get more money and everybody knows they're getting screwed,
and everywhere they go they have to read about it
(27:31):
and see people on TV say I would never pay you, guys,
I would never pay you guys. Be at a little
more tact, a little more understanding of the situation and say, hey,
I'm sorry, but here's the reality of the situation with
your position and what you play. It's X, Y and Z.
I just wish that was a little bit more done,
and I hope yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Man, you know you're trying to nuance the conversations you can,
but I mean, you can't totally ignore the reality of it.
Maybe you don't speak about it and screen it saying year,
but because of the injury history, because of the many
heavy miles that they've logged through high school and college, right,
body's only got so many of those, like they say,
(28:10):
how many heart beats you've got? Whatever else, same thing
for a running back. Eventually that wall does come and
nobody wants to be on the hook having given up
a lot of guaranteed money, because that's really it year
to year, and and ten million dollars is a pretty
good wage, right And at this point you know the
cost of doing business. You know what the CBA is.
And they always said, Mama, don't let your babies grow
(28:31):
up to be cowboys. They're not reclassifying the position. Don't
be a don't be a running back.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Right now you can let them be Jason. It's okay
to be cowboys. It's all yeah. Just remember this is
all your fault. How is it my fault? The running
back situation is all your fault?
Speaker 3 (28:47):
Well, Melvin Gordon, I mean, well, you did sign a
three point one million dollar and with Domins on the on.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
The pup list, it could for Jason and got a
lot of money. Well but millions. I did well. We
but we told him to take the cash. I did,
and he got mad at me.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
We just kept saying, take your cash man. The reality
out there, it's it's a bleak He got the bleak
landscape if you're a running back, and it's tough, but
unfortunately you've got a short shelf life.
Speaker 6 (29:14):
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Here's what I'm nervous about. You're nervous? Yes, okay, okay. Well,
first of all, I look, every day is such a
great day for the Jets. And here's video of Aaron
Rodgers hitting Grett Wilson. Here's Aaron Rodgers having the play
broken up because sauce Gardner is so good. And here's
Aaron Rodgers getting a big piece of jewelry from Sauce Garter. Hey,
you put it on me.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
With the love fest is just so next with every day.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
That goes on, I mean the Jets highlights are all
that all all that we watch all there is now
from nine wins to ten wins, eleven wins, twelve wins.
That sound great, everything is. But here's where I'm nervous. Okay,
here's what I'm nervous because something I I I talked
to you about a few months ago. Today, the Packers
had a big State of the Packers meeting in front
of their season ticket holders, and Mark Murphy, president said, hey,
(30:49):
we're gonna retire Aaron Rodgers number. At some point when
it's appropriate, we'll bring him back. We'll do it.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
So he's just gonna be like Jimmy Johnson in the Oh.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Yeah, yeah, we'll talk about it. We get to worry
about it. Yeah, just call me. Well, they did it
for FARV after a few years and that he was fine.
You wait, and the same thing will happen with Aaron Rodgers.
Now they can do it sooner rather than later. Because
when Mark Murphy said that it was a big round
of a plus. So it's not like Farv who they
were really mad at and he left and came back
with the Vikings. They were really pissed. So that'll happen. Well,
(31:19):
Rogers hasn't gotten to the Viking gym no this year
and then to the Vikings. But this is what I'm
afraid of now, because you know it's coming, just like
it was for Russell Wilson when he first left Seattle
after a little while honeymoon periods there. You got a
lot of stories about what Russell Wilson was like behind
closed doors in Seattle where he had an office or
(31:40):
he wasn't allowed to people weren't allowed to come up
and talk about things, whatever the story is. And he
spent the entire last year beating back those stories while
he was underachieving. It was a miserable season. You know
that's gonna happen for Aaron Rodgers well.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
And then you had more stories coming out of what
he's doing in Denver exactly exactly it did not have
but to where Sean Payton had to shut all that down.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
Hey do really, we don't do that. Pete Carroll's like
do we need to say no, no, no, dude, stuff's coming
out of Denver. We're good, dude, you're good talking about Gina.
You're good. But that's gonna happen with Aaron Rodgers. We're
going to get those stories of sources. This was Aaron Rodgers' behavior,
what it was like. He said this, He did this
in twenty nineteen, he did this in twenty twenty, ony
this in twenty fifteen. And now here are the packers.
(32:25):
And this is why I'm nervous, because here's the Hey,
we're gonna retire Aaron Rodgers' number. We love him. So
now I'm nervous that in the next couple of days,
we're gonna get one of those stories dropped, and the
packers are gonna go, what us leak this? We just
said that we're gonna retire his number. We love Aaron.
We would never leak a story like this. I'm waiting
for the next couple of days for that first that
(32:45):
first drop, right like when I get my emails about Hey,
new hats are its? Ooh, the new drop is here?
That that's gonna drop, and it's gonna be something that's
gonna just take the air out of the Honeymoon Balloon
with Rogers and the Jets. We're gonna get this is
what Aaron Rodgers did in sixteen, something like that's gonna hapen.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
I really thought you were gonna reference something I said
to both you and executive producer Justin Prosberg a little
bit earlier. We're watching Quarterback on net Netflix. I'm about
halfway through it at this point. So good. So you
have Mahomes and you have Captain Kirk Cousins, who I
think people are finally wanting to give a big hug too.
I mean, who doesn't love Kirk Cousins. And then you
have Marcus Mariota. And so today Peyton Manning confirmed, Hey,
(33:25):
we're coming back for a second year. Three quarterbacks are
involved once again.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Who did I tell you last week? Should be two
of the three? Didn't I tell you Aaron Rodgers and
Daniel Jones. Yeah, I said both of them.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
But yeah, here's here's the thing. It's like, we're gonna
be h We're gonna love the world of Daniel Jones.
Josh Allen's winning the Super Bowl, which means Aaron Rodgers
is in for hell no, yeah, if it's gonna if
it's gonna go according.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
To the script. I don't see it that way. I
see I think it's gonna run a little bit differently,
where you're gonna have these teams intersect and rivalries and
playing each other and other. But look, that's what's gonna happen.
That's what I'm nervous about with Rogers, that this is
how it's going to go. We're gonna get those stories.
We're gonna get at least two of them by the
beginning of the season. It's we're like, okay, you want
it out now, now, Now, we're gonna let the people know.
(34:09):
People are gonna find out somehow about Aaron Rodgers behind
closed doors. It's gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
When we get behind closed doors. See, we can get
country songs in from sixty years ago to Twitter.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
And how about a sorry ex sad? How about a
Fresca Mike, it's swollen dull coming. You didn't have time
to sing it this time. We got more coming up
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