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July 26, 2023 • 38 mins

Jason Smith and Mike Harmon react to the GOAT doing GOAT things. The guys explain why Saquon Barkley agreeing to a new 1-year deal worth up to $11M with the Giants was a smart move. And College Football Insider Pete Fiutak enlightens the guys on Jim Harbaugh facing a four-game suspension over recruiting violations.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
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Speaker 3 (00:29):
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Speaker 3 (00:49):
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Speaker 1 (00:52):
Yeah, as you heard from Brian Fenley, we got big
time money conversations coming up in a few minutes, justin
Herbert Jalen Brown. But I'll tell you what, Mike Carmen,
just for a second. Everybody is looking for positives in
life every day. You know, sometimes it's tough and you
gotta find is you say, find your wins when you
can get them.

Speaker 3 (01:11):
All of us.

Speaker 4 (01:11):
Yeah, what's up.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
Look the Mets, we're gonna trade everybody this week.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
We stink, but here we are about to lay a
big whooping on the Yankees and we're gonna knock them
into last place in the Al East. I'm taking a
W tonight. I'm taking I'm taking a Now there is
a six run lead in the ninth inning and Mets
bullpen blah blah blah. But I will take that big
W tonight.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
Well, but you're not dead.

Speaker 5 (01:31):
That's the that's the problem with this the way it's
the muddled middle, the extra wildcards, all of these things.
You need one good week and all of a sudden
the eyebrow raises. You go woll And playing the Yankees.
I mean, you get both things. You get to mock
your dad and he'll go away for a couple of
days for you. You won't have to, you know, deal with

(01:53):
whatever Walt throws your way or Fabiano or.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
Oh, my dad's already done, because this is my dad's
gone to see her. He goes to Syracuse every.

Speaker 4 (02:01):
Year, the sojourn the Syracuse.

Speaker 3 (02:04):
At this point, okay, yeah, he's on his Syracuse sojourn.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
Right, so he sends me a text today, are you
ready for some baseball? And I said, yeah, you're ready,
goes yeah, you ready for an l I'm like, wow, Dad,
okay now suddenly and then I texted him and I
just gave him the old text.

Speaker 3 (02:18):
Hey, my internet's not working. What's the score of the game? Nothing?
Radio silent?

Speaker 5 (02:22):
Oh no, he's well, it's also so he's watching Matt Locke.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
No, no, no, he's watching the No no, no kid, no, no, he's.

Speaker 4 (02:28):
Watching No, he's not watching this game anymore.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
If he's moving.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
On, if he could have a tier where he's probably
crying a few of them, his own personal cable tier
where he could watch baseball, golf and ncis Like, if
that was a tier you could buy, he would buy
that tier. Okay, I just want baseball games, and I
want golf, and I want and I want n cis.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
Big Mark, All Right, that's all he needs. I mean,
can you do that? You got to be able to
do that at some point, right with you?

Speaker 5 (02:53):
No, I mean at some point we're going full o
la carte, right, because you do it with cable where
you get that the big fight about carriage rights for
you know, ESPN or whatever is the highest and in
a given cable package where you just say, you know,
I don't want that. I don't need those channels, and
bit by bit we're getting to that point. It's like,
I just need these three channels. What does that cost me?

(03:16):
Don't I don't want the rest of it. I don't
offer it to me. I don't want any free previews.
I don't even want to be tempted with it. Three channels.
Let me go back to broadcast, like before Fox existed, ABC, NBC,
and CBS.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
You click on the guide on your TV and it's
just one page. You can't even scroll up or because
it's all on the one simplify on one.

Speaker 4 (03:36):
Yeah, talk about that technology and stuff.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
See look at that. You talk about cutting the court.
That's like big time cutting the court. Nine to three
the Mets now the Polar Bear. Yeah, hit a big
one early on and now McNeil just doubled a run
in the ninth inning and everybody's booing the Yankees and
booing Aaron Boone.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
If he comes out to make a pitching change.

Speaker 4 (03:56):
Oh, he's still in the game. So that's good.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
Find your wins.

Speaker 4 (03:58):
Yeah, if only the Mets seasons, Mike, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
Well, listen, it matters, because you're getting Justin Verlander another
good start tonight.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
You're getting Justin Verlander. You're getting just then.

Speaker 4 (04:08):
I'm telling you, none of those guys are getting traded.

Speaker 5 (04:10):
You are gonna ride this to the end like one
of your wheels is coming undone in a chariot race,
and you're gonna.

Speaker 3 (04:17):
Ride that home.

Speaker 5 (04:18):
As miserably as it may end. You may end up
drifting outside and finishing eighth in the race, You're still
gonna be in it. You're still you're not getting rid
of it.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
What do you mean drifting outside? If we finished eighth, threat,
how we'd be moving up? I don't know you're talking.

Speaker 4 (04:33):
It was a horse racing analogy. Stay with me.

Speaker 5 (04:38):
I wasn't counting the futility of the National League. It
was just the the idea of Hey, and down the
stretch they come and you feel feel pretty good about
your horse. Get a lot of horse left right, you're
driving in the sulky like you're Nicole Jokic, and you're
giving the horse the business to try to get you
to the end. Come on, come on, and then everything
starts to come undone. It starts to get a little rickety.

(05:00):
You start to shake a little bit. You got that
that wheel starts to feel like it's coming undone, and
your horse you're not as focused right because you've got
a lot of stuff going on, So you start to
drift to the outside, and what you give up the
lightning lane, and all of a sudden, there you're being passed.
And it's a feudal effort. But you know what you're
mets because of the money spent. He's gonna be stubborn

(05:21):
and he's gonna ride this to the bitter end.

Speaker 3 (05:24):
See, I think you missed your calling. You could have
been a horse racing analysis and down the stretch thak
you know what is here drifting to the outside.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
Forget about charlesy Candy all you know, riding on the
horse after interviewing people.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
No, you could have been I think you missed your calling.
You could have done that.

Speaker 5 (05:38):
I have a lot of skills. I got a lot
of time left on this earth.

Speaker 4 (05:42):
You don't know what. You don't know what's next for me.

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the ghetto, it's the last game for justin Berlin. Big
goings on tonight, and we're going to revisit something we

(06:05):
told you about a month ago. You know, we hate
to say we told you so we do.

Speaker 4 (06:09):
I really enjoy it.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
But when this story rises to the forefront, this becomes
the biggest story. Leontel Messi in his home debut for
Miami Inner Miami beats Atlanta in the League's Cup for nothing.
Two goals and an assist for Messi, whose night sounded.

Speaker 5 (06:32):
Like this see driving forward Obra to Robert Taylor, Taylor cutting.

Speaker 3 (06:37):
If Pat Martina is nothing, there is Apple TV on
the call.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
It's over two games, not lazy, Yeah, no, exactly in
the last hour. Yeah, I was starting at seven o'clock
for nothing. They win tonight. He's played two game so far,
he's got three goals and an assist. He sets up
the fourth goal as well, and he's at the top
of every single social media post and platform. When you
piggyback that with the news earlier today that Inner Miami

(07:12):
has already made what three hundred million dollars on messy
jerseys alone, right, I mean messy jerseys alone. How much
money they've made on him just being able, just being
there and being able to sign. It is some kind
of impact that he is going to have. But I
just don't think people realize the the the sheer enormity

(07:34):
of it. This is going to happen for a while.
It's going to be the traveling Messy Tour when he
goes and plays away games and how everybody feels about
him going forward and sellouts and every time he plays,
He's going to be a big front page story. That's
how you buy relevancy is on nights where you have
Justin Herbert and Jalen Brown signing incredibly large deals and

(07:55):
Jim Harbaugh's facing a four game suspension. You got big
quarterback news with Brock Purdy and Saint Quon Barkley's back.
Leonel Messi is the biggest story because he has that
kind of impact and within five years soccer is gonna
be the fourth major sport in the country. It's it's
not gonna it's not look nothing's gonna get bigger than football. Obviously,

(08:15):
the NBA is at a large route, but we're talking
about a landscape that we've had in this country now
for the past twenty years, where it's been the Big three,
used to be the Big four.

Speaker 3 (08:24):
Then hockey just fell.

Speaker 1 (08:25):
Way off, completely off, because Gary Bettman ran it horribly.
He continues to run it horribly, and now hockey is
kind of a cult sport, you know in the United
States Now Tennants is still up and people go to games,
but there's there's no real television presence and it's tougher
to find relevancy. MLS has all of that, has has
everything you needed. It's got a big star to come
through to make that happen. And as good as the

(08:46):
MLS has been, as they continue to expand, they continue
to get out in and out of markets and it
becomes a bigger and bigger deal and soccer gets bigger
and bigger headlines. It's not only the World Cup where
we talk about soccer. Now, this is going to have
that kind of impact and within five years because look,
Messi's thirty six, Yeah, that's usually when you start slowing down.
But in the MLS, because it's not quite the competition

(09:08):
he's used to. He's gonna have a big run that's
going to go the next three or four years. He's
gonna be really good. He's gonna be able to score,
and he's gonna be able to be a big impact.
And it's gonna be a three year show for Messi
to be able to do all these things. So, yeah,
soccer's gonna wind up the fourth biggest sport in the country,
and we're gonna talk about it regularly like we talk

(09:29):
about the NFL, baseball and basketball when big headlines come.
And Messi's the guy Beckham opened the door, and Messi's
the guy that blew right through it and said here,
I'm here. Now I'm ready to make soccer one of
the big four of the United States.

Speaker 5 (09:42):
Yeah, I think the big thing is soccer probably already
is eclipsed hockey if we talk soccer as a whole.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
Oh of course, that's but to get up to where
baseball and and you're not, and that's Look, that's lofty territory.

Speaker 5 (09:56):
But then you got to figure out what metrics we're
using to define that. Uh, certainly a demographic shift, a
lot more kids playing soccer I didn't play soccer growing up,
but I was on a pitch a couple of times
for intermurals in college because they were desperate for an
extra guy. I said, all this run and I've touched
the ball twice, the hell with this, and they didn't
get me.

Speaker 4 (10:16):
Out for a third.

Speaker 5 (10:18):
I mean I felt pretty good, like running around like
it was a great exercise.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
It was like, just just passed the ball to Harmon
once he paid money for this camp. I want to
be able to tell his parents that that that he
actually I could just pass it once.

Speaker 4 (10:31):
We can touch one, That's all I'm asking.

Speaker 5 (10:34):
Well, now most of your baseball diamonds have been replaced
with soccer fields in a lot of communities, right, You've
got that.

Speaker 4 (10:41):
So the growth of the sport.

Speaker 5 (10:44):
Uh, Certainly we can talk about the machines that are
the club worlds in both softball and soccer, talk about
AAU basketball, all of those things feeding in, but certainly
soccer a bigger presence more and more every year we
got the lead Cut Leagues Cup going on, which is
what you watched a little bit with with Messi and

(11:05):
the huge performance. By the way, don't forget about his kid, right,
who was doing the Vince McMahon Connor McGregor on the
pitch after the game. So I mean he probably in
a four nil game should have gotten a few minutes.
I mean, he had did successfully meg his dad a
couple of weeks ago, so or after his debut, I
should say, right, all of that the introduction, But you know,

(11:28):
four hundred and fifty million dollars worth of Jersey sales,
that's the thing to triple underscore here that look at
all the dollars and the eyeballs and everything that goes through.

Speaker 4 (11:39):
And this is a day full of huge stories. I
mean we've got a full night.

Speaker 5 (11:44):
I mean by ten am, we had five or six
stories that had already gone through that were huge before
he even took the pitch. So it's a big day
and it still cuts through because we celebrate great performances
and he's a guy going to give you a ton
of them on this level. And as you said, even

(12:05):
if he's declining, we watch what's Lawton did on a
per game basis when he was available here in Los Angeles.
No reason that MESSI can't match your top all of that.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
Yeah, it's a it's a you could say it's the fourth,
but really the distance between the top three and soccer's like, Okay,
it's got but this you're going to see the next
five years, that's gonna make its way up to Hey,
is it as popular as baseball? Is it going to
be as popular as the NBA? Could be proud that
that's what it needs to make up And that's what
you're gonna see the rise. And hey, MLS has been
great over the past years, but now you're going to

(12:35):
see it get to an even bigger level.

Speaker 5 (12:37):
Yeah again, you're you're going to the MLS side. I'm
just taking it as a whole. Right, we have friendlies,
and you have international squads come rolling into town and
they regularly fill eighty thousand seed football stadiums, right, I
mean that we've got one coming in tomorrow? Was it
Arsenal's playing tomorrow night? Unfortunately, you know, Hey, we've got

(12:59):
women's Nash Old soccer team that we've got to watch
and cover here at Fox Sports Radio. Otherwise otherwise you
and I would be there. I mean, Cubs, White Sox,
Mess Yankees. Yeah, exactly, Met's going for the sweep. Come on, man,
I really thought you were going to start the crickets
down there, As I said, Cubs, White Sox. But I mean,
there's so much going on and there are no dog

(13:20):
days of August and July is no longer a dead
period in sports talk radio.

Speaker 4 (13:25):
There's a million things going on.

Speaker 5 (13:27):
So we'll be in studio, but tell me you don't
want to attend a few of those games. You know
when the friendlies come stateside, so you know all of
those things. You know, everybody's just salivating at how much
you can grow it and start to expand it.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
Well, we'll get to Saquon Barkley in a second, but
right now a series of friendlies that we were looking
forward to. One of them is here, and boy, we
already have drama. Maybe you're familiar with Wrexham from Welcome
to rexam show that's helped push popularity in soccer to
immense levels here in the country with the show owned

(14:10):
by Ryan Reynolds and Rob mclaney. They're playing in the
Snap Dragon Cup right now against Manchester United. Now this
is a friendly and already you've seen some chippiness go
on because Paul Mullen, Super Paul Mullen.

Speaker 3 (14:23):
I just don't think you'd understand.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
Had to be helped off the field after a collision
with man You use goalkeeper and a play like that
and a friendly. Wow, man, I mean the keeper got
a yellow and hopefully Paul Mullen is okay. It's been
see you can see it on social media now it's insane.
I'm like, wow, that's up for a friendly, come on.
But you can tell that's how people potentially feel about Wrexham. No,

(14:46):
you do superstar owners winning. Yeah, we'll show you we're
all about soccer. But Wrexham does have a one nothing.
Yeah they knew, they just they just a great clearing
pass and Lee puts it in and they to Rob
mcallaney and Dennis is in there too.

Speaker 4 (15:03):
Nice but it's always Sonny.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
Dennis is celebrating more than Rob McCallany is.

Speaker 4 (15:10):
What's the snap dragon?

Speaker 1 (15:12):
One nothing? Wrexham leads Manchester United right now? Insane, absolutely insane.
The popularity of Wrexham going forward, everything happening here and
and and you know watch, hopefully Paul Mullen is okay,
because it was it was it was kind of a
weak play by the keeper, but you know, just seeing
the pot, just seeing them go crazy. I mean, and
watching Glenn Howard and who plays Dennis, and it's always

(15:33):
Sonny watching him celebrate. I just can't help but feel
like this is in the next season if it's always Sonny,
like this is gonna be some kind of thing, and
Dennis has a scheme going on, and and Rob McCallany
is gonna be I mean, I really, I mean it
took me right out of it for a second watching
Dennis celebrate.

Speaker 5 (15:48):
Well, I mean, look, look for the camera there. I mean,
it's it's very possible. It just gets written in if
nothing else, it'll show up in season two of Wrexham.

Speaker 4 (15:56):
Oh sure, I mean it's showing up on your TV.
It's just a aware it's content. It's content.

Speaker 5 (16:04):
And yeah, I mean we got Arsenal and Barcelona Barcelona
on Thursday here in Los Angeles, so I mean, you've
you've got these friendlies that are that are taken over.

Speaker 4 (16:14):
It's good.

Speaker 5 (16:16):
It's good for business, buddy, and it'll make your prediction
of soccer and it's imminent growth and displacement and dominance
over other sports. It'll make it come true that much.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
Faster outside is it tomorrow?

Speaker 4 (16:31):
Okay, tomorrow Thursday. I'm trying, buddy, I'm trying to get
my day tried. Today is still the twenty fifth, isn't it?

Speaker 3 (16:38):
Buddy? That buddy? The days have melted together from me
since college? Man, it doesn't.

Speaker 5 (16:42):
I'm usually pretty good at separating them. Yeah, but there's
just so much going on.

Speaker 3 (16:46):
I mean, seriously, ever since college. I'm like, yeah, Monday
is Tuesday, Monday Wednesday. Yeah, that's how it is.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
But uh, I mean just watching rec I mean, I
can't wait for the season two of Wrexham, even though
I know everything hands ends for them and how it goes,
and he'll they are on this big tour and Dennis
is celebrating goals and probably you know, Danny DeVito's doing
another Subway commercial.

Speaker 4 (17:07):
No, no, no, no, he's Jersey Mike's or Jersey Mike's.

Speaker 3 (17:09):
Sorry.

Speaker 5 (17:09):
Jeff Curry has now been brought in to counter Danny
DeVito because they they bought eighty million dollars worth of slicers,
because they realized that was a problem.

Speaker 3 (17:19):
We always slice this stuff and it's pretty good.

Speaker 4 (17:24):
It's on billboards everywhere.

Speaker 3 (17:26):
I want to see.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
Commercial him pull out his gun like he pulls it
out and always Sonny all the time, he always like
has it out. I'll tell you, I'm all I'm gonna
remember from this game. Boy, if Wrexham wins went unbelieve
playing way up in level obviously you're talking about a
level five team playing up against Manchester United.

Speaker 3 (17:44):
I don't remember. Is Dennis celebrating? Call Canny yelling at crazy?

Speaker 4 (17:50):
Where's coach Beard? I'm watching the game. I don't see him.

Speaker 3 (17:53):
That's the that's the other show. Coach Beard. Coach Beard
is actually out on his own adventure in Amsterdam. That's
what's going on.

Speaker 4 (18:00):
I could use a whole season of that.

Speaker 3 (18:02):
Yeah, so that's where we're at right now. Wrexham scores again.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
Oh they had a big throw in the box and
Wrexham scores. It's too nothing. You can't stop Wrexham. You
can only hope to contain them. Yes, look at this.

Speaker 3 (18:17):
How embarrassed are you right now?

Speaker 1 (18:19):
If you're one of those soccer soccer peerists going, I
can't believe this team is beating us. This is a
little level. Was a sixth level team last year and
now they're beating us. Two nothing here in the thirty
How many people right now are tweeting at Jay Glazer
to sell man. You right, this is where Jay should say,
you're right. This is despicable, this is awful. I'm going

(18:42):
to I'm gonna sell this now. This'll do it. I'm
gonna sell the team. Look at this all the header
from Aaron Hayden. Oh my god, these guys.

Speaker 5 (18:50):
The best is how angry Jay gets. Now, yeah, I
start starting to beat people up. He's like, I don't
know if that's good business. We'll have to talk to
him about that as it hits the road for his
training camp tour.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
But yeah, did you did you see Dennis celebrating again?
Did you sit the owner's bottom? I mean, look sitting
next to Rob. You're gonna get a lot of screen time.

Speaker 3 (19:11):
Oh my goodness.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
I realized that the soccer purists must just be in
hell right now with this.

Speaker 3 (19:15):
How is this?

Speaker 1 (19:16):
How is this Hollywood down on its luck? Bad news
Bears team beating us.

Speaker 4 (19:22):
To friendly friendly.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
And they don't even have their best player. Paul Mullen's
not even playing. I mean, but watching some of these
guys is like seeing the Avengers, Like, oh my goodness,
there's Ollie Palmer and oh my god, it's it's Paul
Mullen and it's Phil Parkinson and all the I mean really,
it's like seeing the Avengers actually live doing things, not
just in a movie.

Speaker 3 (19:43):
This.

Speaker 5 (19:44):
Yeah, your ability to retain all the details and fall
in love with these guys much deeper than me.

Speaker 3 (19:50):
I watched it.

Speaker 4 (19:50):
I enjoyed it.

Speaker 3 (19:51):
I moved on super Paul Mulley.

Speaker 4 (19:53):
I mean, look, you don't forget him because of a chance.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
Yeah, yeah, we have a good the chant for you,
they have a good chance. So again Wrexham Leeds Manchester
United to.

Speaker 3 (20:05):
I love it.

Speaker 4 (20:06):
Thirty seven minute. Let's go.

Speaker 3 (20:09):
Shut up.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
So we have Pete Futech coming up in a few
minutes for all the latest on the Jim Harbaugh situation.
But the biggest NFL story of the day today, Saquon
Barkley is now in playing this season. He is going
to play for the Giants after reaching terms on a
deal with the Giants. It's gonna payhim about eleven million dollars. Now,
it's not technically the franchise tag, it's sort of the

(20:33):
franchise tag. He's hitting a tiny bit more money. Basically,
what happened, is he agreed to this deal and the
Giants are still able to franchise him again next year.

Speaker 3 (20:43):
If we're there.

Speaker 1 (20:44):
And there's been a lot of talk everywhere, I've seen
all the Giants worked Barkley and all Barkley's threats, and
the Giants did what they wanted to do. And look
at this, and Barkley's got his tail between his legs.

Speaker 3 (20:56):
You are missing.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
Everybody who says that is missing the entire point of
what's going on. Saquon Barkley is smart. It shows like
he listens to our show. Because what if we'd said
the last couple of nights, Hey, nothing's gonna change. It
was great to have the running back zoom call and
catch up with everybody else, but nothing's gonna change. You
can't make teams pay you. You're not all gonna hold out.

(21:17):
What you need to do is ball out every year,
get paid year to year, and stay healthy. And that's
how you're gonna make your money because no one's gonna
stop you from making money.

Speaker 3 (21:26):
You gotta stay healthy.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
I know you're worried about being injured, so is everybody
else who plays in the NFL. That's your way forward
is it the best way forward. No it's not, but
it's the way forward. If you are a running back,
you need to play every year. You need to play
great and you'll will get a big contract for the
next year. You stay healthy. That's how it goes. And
that's what Saquon Barkley realized. I am putting myself a

(21:47):
position to succeed, not to fail, because if he holds out,
he's in a position to fail because he's coming in
where maybe the team adjusts around him. They brought in
a lot of wide receivers this year. Other guys are
gonna throw the ball to the brought in Darren Waller.
Maybe Saquon Barkley if he sits out, gets phased out
of the offense a little bit and he doesn't have
the numbers that he should have this year. Or he

(22:08):
comes back, tries to rush himself back, is not in
football shape and winds up getting injured. These are all
things that happen when you hold out. What he has
done now by coming in is says I've put myself
in a position for another payday next year. I have
a full training camp. I'm gonna get my body ready
to go. My teammates are not gonna have anything bad
to say about me because I've sucked it up for them.

(22:29):
I'm coming in to play.

Speaker 3 (22:31):
You know.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
I maybe when I said, oh, I could say f
the Giants, Matt wasn't the smartest thing to say. So
I got to kind of make up for that a
little bit. I've come in. No one can talk about
my leadership. I'm here to play. I'm gonna be a
big part of this team, and I'm gonna have a
lot of stack numbers, and I'm gonna get another bite
at the Apple next year. And the very worst thing,
I'm gonna make thirteen million dollars next year. So he
made the only choice he actually had to say, because

(22:53):
anything else he tried to do puts the rest of
his future in jeopardy, and that is not getting paid
at all. Again, if you're trying to come off this
year and it's a bad year for you, if you're
not getting paid coming off of last year, how are
you gonna get paid when you're coming off a year
that y're either ineffective or injured.

Speaker 3 (23:09):
He had no choice.

Speaker 1 (23:10):
It was the only play for him, and he made
the smart play.

Speaker 3 (23:13):
Sakuon Bark, Yeah, I.

Speaker 5 (23:14):
Think the biggest thing going back to the Barkley comments
last week, you know when you said, you know blank
this blank, that he never sounded like he was a
guy resolved to do this right. It was, well, here's
where I'm at, and like he was just having is
I'm gonna think this out loud with a microphone in
front of me. Never Never the best way to go
about your decision process, because you know, the assumptions get made.

(23:37):
But the way this breaks out right, thirteen hundred and
fifty rushing yards and a playoff berth sixty five receptions,
eleven touchdowns that will earn him up to another nine
hundred and nine thousand dollars. They gave him two million
dollars right now. Doesn't have to wait till till the
season starts. Here, here's two million bucks up front. Now

(23:58):
you get to go pay whatever bills go by yourself.
Something nice to make good and a feel good process
to it. Right here is a good faith system. But yeah,
listening to the show and really just pragmatism, and I
get it. Every running back is gonna have their different
line in the sand. And we talk about do you

(24:18):
need to be in solidarity? And everybody walks. Well, you're
never gonna get that.

Speaker 4 (24:23):
You're just not right.

Speaker 5 (24:24):
There was a lot, a lot of scaring over the
last couple of weeks that UPS was suddenly gonna strike.
There's no chance in hell that was ever gonna happen
because fed X would eat their lunch. You're not getting
those customers back if you go out on a long
protracted strike. Only the biggest loyalists. Otherwise it's you're gonna

(24:45):
move down down the street to the person that's gonna
keep moving along, just like we talked about with running backs.
We love you, sa Quon, and yes there's this decided
drop off to the next guy. But if that's what
we have to do, that's what we have to do.
You're not gonna cave and kaotao. And in this case,
you know, calmer heads prevailed. We'll see how that happens

(25:06):
with the other positions and players affected and hold out
situations for Saquon Barkley, Did I expect it to resolve
quite so quickly? No, because I mean we left yesterday
at about ten hours later.

Speaker 3 (25:18):
Hey, what do you know?

Speaker 4 (25:18):
Inside?

Speaker 3 (25:21):
Good for him?

Speaker 5 (25:22):
I'm glad, No, but I'm glad at least he feels
whole ish right. I'm sure there's still some reservations and
a little angst because they weren't able to get a
second year or a third year on the deal at
the money per year they wanted. But now that money's
in the bank and a check or wire like, hey,
let me know when that gets into my account. We

(25:44):
wired you the two million dollars. It's a good faith effort,
and I think a good step towards bridging things. And
people just need to leave Daniel Jones alone. It's got
nothing to do with Daniel Jones.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
But you paid Daniel. What's he gonna do? Say no, no, no, no,
I don't want that money. I know I really don't
just serve it, but I'm not going to take it.

Speaker 4 (26:01):
Well, no everybody else was.

Speaker 5 (26:02):
I saw it in my timeline a bunch like, don't
forget Daniel Jones is still going to make twenty nine
million dollars more this year. When Saquon is the heart
and soul of this team. You can feel how you're
gonna feel. I can't tell you how to feel, but
I can tell you what logic is and where you're failing.

Speaker 3 (26:19):
Not a quarterback, Not a quarterback.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
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Speaker 1 (26:29):
Well joining us now on the hotline, Yes, getting set
for another phenomenal year with one of our all time favorites.
You can fill on Twitter at Pete Futech, That is,
at Pete fu Tech the editor publisher Grand Pooba of
College Footballnews dot com. You're one stop shopping for college
football news, Pete.

Speaker 3 (26:49):
How's it going, man? Happy summer so far?

Speaker 6 (26:51):
Oh dear lord, and apparently not a moment too soon,
you guys fucking like friendly soccer or American soccer. I
mean that's the real stuff and start for a couple
of weeks here right, So.

Speaker 7 (27:02):
I'm here to help.

Speaker 6 (27:03):
I let me help you. Let me carry something the
load heer for you guys for a little while.

Speaker 3 (27:09):
Well, look, it's Wrexham.

Speaker 1 (27:10):
It's a lot of a lot of a lot of
We've got a lot of things going on, Pete. It's
not every dingy sit here and say hey, because of
four Hamburgers, Jim Harbaugh is looking at a four game suspension.

Speaker 7 (27:19):
Oh dear god, it's so like seriously, like I they
I can't I just get like I have seriously blown
a gasket when it comes to the NCAA and trying
to figure out.

Speaker 6 (27:32):
What's like, Oh, like Tennessee, they did all these things.
We're gonna take away some of your wins from eighteen
to fourteen, Like okay, you know, super you know, and Okay,
so maybe Jim Harbaugh was in one thousand percent truthful
when he talked to a couple of NCAA people. Okay,
so we're gonna suspend you for what when you play
cream puff text to start to see things they play

(27:53):
nobody for the first four games whatever. And then the
dumbest the ball is that somehow they're gonna screw up
the greatest business model possibly in American maybe world entertainment history,
where they they're trying to keep going to Congress and saying,
help us, help us, and eventually they're gonna it's gonna

(28:15):
go to the courts, and the courts are gonna stay
wait a minute here, So you guys have free labor
and you want us to help you how and they're
gonna mess it all up?

Speaker 3 (28:28):
Well, Pete, let me tell you first thing.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
I mean, you mentioned a big deal here because the
nineteen fourteen Tennessee Volunteers football team went nine to zero
and won the Southern Intercollegiate Athletic Association and retroactively, we're
given the national championship, so they could be giving back
a national championship from.

Speaker 6 (28:43):
Nine exactly, and Stumpy Woods now it deserves the MVP
for that game. So yeah, so absolutely, I'm with you.
It couldn't happen to have worth a nicer team, Yeah exactly.

Speaker 3 (28:56):
The captain of the team's name was Farmer Kelly. I
mean that was a course of farmers.

Speaker 6 (29:00):
Of course it had to have been.

Speaker 1 (29:01):
And the head coach was Zora Clevenger, who was in
his fourth season at that point.

Speaker 6 (29:06):
That fantastic stuff. That's whe the last time Tennessee fans
are still getting mad about that, because Tennessee fans are
mad about everything, so they're gonna find way to be
grouchy about this.

Speaker 5 (29:16):
Well, but you gotta get to look at all the
negotiating and we'll get to my alma mater down the
road from you there in Evanston in a minute, Pete.
But you know, you got the Conference of Scandals, but
in college football overall, it is well, that's it. It's
not conference of champions and scandals at this point, pick
a team, any team. But we look at the negotiating

(29:37):
of four game suspension, the negotiation of hey, they were
forthcoming in Tennessee. So it's eight million wins loss and
a time served for all those scholarship losses. We're it
in just a really strange place, like we're not actually
rule things. Let's just try to figure out what's going
to be the most press friendly and show that we

(29:58):
still have some power here.

Speaker 6 (30:00):
Yeah, and they miss out on what they should be doing,
which is the basics they they now I joked before
about the Congress side. Now they should actually do something
about that when it comes to healthcare, when it comes
to other aspects of the student and I'm one hundred
percent for student rights and UH and player rights and
all that. The problem with all this is that keeps

(30:22):
going back to every time everyone wants to get into
any and trust me, there are a lot of people
out there who don't think that these students should get
a thing that they should just be happy to put
on the sweater for old what's them out of you?
And you know, have you know, be able to go
out there and play for us? And oh they get
a scholarship too and all that.

Speaker 7 (30:43):
Meanwhile, the coaches.

Speaker 6 (30:44):
Are getting paid hundreds of millions of dollars quit yet
exactly so, like you, it's kind of hard for to
be like, well, the coach and the coaches aren't professors.
I mean, this is this is college, and it keeps
getting lost in all this that the entire point of
this whole little exercise is there universities of higher learning.

(31:06):
Like you could take away actually the Alabama football team
and there would still be a University of Alabama. If
you took away the Chicago Bears football team, there would
be no Chicago Bears football team. So it's it's so
twisted how this is all turned out, not like back
in the nineteen hundreds when everything was all, you know,
on the up and up. But yeah, no it's not.

(31:29):
It's gone. It's gone completely completely. But I digress. But
Danta could do very easy stuff like just fix the
transfer portal. That's all you have to do. The nil
thing is fine, it's not going to be that big
a deal. It's actually gonna it's actually gonna start to
kind of, you know, dissipate a little bit because there's
just no return on investment when it comes to this,

(31:49):
So it's just going to handle itself. So just make
sure that you can't have unfettered free agency and all
the other problems they're going to magically go away.

Speaker 1 (31:59):
Pattech College Football Insider Our guest here on Fox Sports Radio,
Jason Smith Mike Carmon live from the Tireck dot Com studios.
All right, let's just button this with Harboll here for
a second, because you know, Harmon's got some Northwestern questions
for you. Look, when it comes to this, we know
that he's negotiating this four game suspension. It's going to happen.
We know not to lie to the NCAA. It's one
of those things.

Speaker 3 (32:19):
Do you see this to be any effect on Michigan
at all?

Speaker 1 (32:23):
I mean, look, they don't play a strong schedule out
of the gate, so likely they can do it. He
can coach the team during the week he just can't
be there for the weekends for the games. Do you
see there being any effect on Michigan long term this
season with this?

Speaker 6 (32:35):
I now and no, because, like you said, if they
were to play, if they had a real nasty game
early on, then maybe that would mean something. But really,
at this point, it's the preseason. I mean it really is.
I mean, I know Rutgers since the opening that it's
going to be part of this four games excuse me
suspension if it actually happens, but really you're talking about

(32:55):
the preseason before Michigan really has to start kicking it
all in with the tough games ahead. So as long
as he's around for the practices and during the week
and isn't suspended completely from the program, then it's all fine.
But I mean, again, like you said, it's not like
it's that big a violation. If it's all it's all true.
He wasn't a thousand percent truthful when it came to

(33:18):
his interview with the NCAA, and that's yeah, you know,
cover up words in the crime. But it's just we're
really talking about silly season here, well.

Speaker 5 (33:26):
Not so silly, and Evanston, we we've talked about it
a bunch, Pete. For me, every detail that comes out,
I've got a vote of no confidence of anybody that
has a quote leadership position there, and I think they
should all be cleaned out by the by the board,
including the AD and the president at this point for
some of the dopiness that they keep putting out the

(33:48):
admission that they'd only read a quick summary and not
the actual contents of the report that they commissioned is
to me unconscionable. But McPherson in the assistant coaches, how
does anybody stay around? Is really what it comes down to, Pete,
And how do they feel the team given all the
problems that are going because eventually you got to get

(34:10):
after the players to that perpetrated this stuff.

Speaker 6 (34:13):
Well, I mean, on the field, what are you gonna
do go from one to eight to oho to nine.

Speaker 5 (34:18):
I mean, like I'm just talking about fielding a team
at all, of course.

Speaker 6 (34:21):
I mean, but then you know, and that's that's the
crazy part about you know, all the years I've been
doing this, the one thing that's been a truth among us.
You show me whatever scandal, what however horrific it might be,
and there will be fan bases that are just going
to stand by their team and stand by their head
coach no matter what or the star player, it doesn't
matter what the alleged crime or legend thing is. They're

(34:44):
going to be like by you. And now you have Northwestern,
which again going back to the Northwestern would be just fine.
As the university without a football team, and now you've
got this situation where Fitzgerald gets you know, gets like
go and all of a sudden you had this backlash.
But well, he represented the best of us, and all
these fans are like, I stand with this stuff, like

(35:06):
it's crazy, the hero worship of college coaches that happened,
and even at place north like Northwestern, which you would
think would be above it all, and obviously it's not
in its own certain way. So you're right, it's just
an ugly situation. It's one of those things where the
faster it can go away, the better. I'm not a

(35:26):
fan of them not bringing the players and people to
the the big ten media days, you know, because look
I was there the Penn State kids that showed up
after what was a twenty eleven so it's been twenty twelve,
I think it was media days. They caught hell. I
mean they just they they had to set there and
just kind of just over and over again, and they

(35:49):
rep they got the breast day John your show, who's
like the super genius or and some of these other
guys there. They they dealt with it. And Northwestern guys,
you know what you get them show up tyke an
answer lessons, they can talk about it, and yet they can't.
So it is just a really ugly situation for a
school where you know, bearin anybody else where, there are

(36:10):
a whole lot of people. And this goes Forever University,
including the Alabama's of Ohio States two, where there are
a whole lot of people on that campus that on
a Saturday are going to be sitting in a library
or a lab or somewhere else, and not even any
have anything to do with a football program.

Speaker 7 (36:24):
That.

Speaker 6 (36:25):
Look, at the end of the day, college football programs
are pr That's what they are. They represent the student body,
they represent the university, and you can't have any sort
of a scandal, especially at one of the world's greatest
academic institutions.

Speaker 3 (36:39):
All right, Pete, let's end with this, because this is
going to be a big job. One end with something
kind of fun. Here. What week do you think.

Speaker 1 (36:45):
The Caleb Williams should sit out the rest of the season.

Speaker 3 (36:48):
He's not gonna do anything but get hurt. Conversation starts
week three now or do you fit it out now?

Speaker 6 (36:55):
Look, I'm not joking, Like, Look, if you're gonna have
the silly nca rules where it's not like the NBA
where you have options to go, you know, in Europe
or other places. And if you're gonna have these silly
NCAA rules that are gonna prohibit players from making money
or being a part of any surpris, why should Caleb

(37:16):
Williams risk? I mean Justin Herbert, the Pac twelve, Every
Pac twelve team is gonna go to better Night dreaming
of getting the Justin Herbert contract extension. It's crazy. We're
talking about here is you can't get a good starting
NFL quarterback for what the Big twelve and Pac twelve

(37:37):
and a SEC are paying their schools.

Speaker 7 (37:39):
So if you're Caleb.

Speaker 6 (37:40):
Williams, you're the number one pick, there's not gonna make Okay, fine,
so great Breake may might be the number one pick
and you might be the number two picks. Justin Herbert
decigned a two hundred and sixty two million dollars extension.
Why are you playing one more down of college football
at USC than you have to. I've never understood this.
We're starting to get away from it. It started to

(38:01):
start becoming the norm that you don't play in a
bowl game now, But I've always been on this. It's
it's a business. This is fun for everyone else, but
if you're if you've got the winning lottery ticket, you
don't put it in your jeans pocket and throw in
the washer. So if I'm Caman Williams, I'm out. I'm
thanks guys, appreciate it, See you next year.

Speaker 1 (38:20):
You can follow on Twitter at Pete Feutech. That is,
at Petefeutech college footballnews dot com. You're one stop shopping
for everything college football.

Speaker 3 (38:30):
Pete. Looking forward to another great season, my friend. We'll
talk to you soon.

Speaker 6 (38:33):
Absolutely, guys.

Speaker 7 (38:34):
Let's go.

Speaker 4 (38:35):
Welcome back buddy. Go watch the end of Cubs White Sox.
Just kidding, see
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