July 26, 2023 • 35 mins
Jason Smith and Mike Harmon react to the GOAT doing GOAT things. We may get to an NFL QB and an NBA star making $100M a year BEFORE 2030. And Jim Harbaugh is expected to be suspended for 4 games for lying about buying recruits hamburgers with his money.
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Speaker 1 (00:28):
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heard from Brian Fenley, we got big time money conversations
coming up in a few minutes, justin Herbert Jalen Brown.
But I'll I'll tell you what, Mike Carmen, just for
a sec. Everybody is looking for positives in life every day.
You know, sometimes it's tough and you gotta find is.
You say, find your wins when you can get them.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
All of us. Yeah, what's up.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Look the Mets, we're gonna trade everybody this week. We stink,
but here we are about to lay a big whooping
on the Yankees and we're gonna knock them into last
place in the Al East. I'm taking a W tonight.
I'm taking I'm taking a Now there is a six
run lead in the ninth inning that Mets bullpen, blah
blah blah. But I will take that big W tonight.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Well, but you're not dead.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
That's the that's the problem with this the way it's
the muddled middle, the extra wildcards, all of these things.
You need one good week and all of a sudden
the eyebrow raises. You go woll And playing the Yankees.
I mean, you get both things. You get to mock
your dad and he'll go away for a couple of days.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
For you.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
You won't have to, you know, deal with whatever Walt
throws your way or Fabiano or.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Oh, my dad's already done, because this is my dad's
gone to Syracuse. He goes Syracuse every.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Year, the sojourn, the Syracuse.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
At this point, okay, yeah, he's on his Syracuse sojourn, right,
So he sends me a text today, Are you ready
for some baseball? And I said, yeah, you're ready, goes, yeah,
you ready for an l I'm like, wow, dad, okay
now suddenly and then I texted him and I just
gave him the old text. Hey, my internet's not working.
What's the score of the game? Nothing? Radio silent?
Speaker 4 (02:22):
Oh no, he's well, it's also so he's watching Matt Locke.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
No, no, no, he's watching the No no, no, kid, no, no
he's watching.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
No, he's not watching this game anymore. If he's moving on.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
If he could have a tier where he's probably crying
a few of them, his own personal cable tier where
he could watch baseball, golf and ncis, Like, if that
was a tier you could buy, he would buy that tier. Okay,
I just want baseball games, and I want golf, and
I want and I want n cis.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Big Mark har guy.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
All right, that's all he needs. I mean, can you
do that? You got to be able to do that
at some point, right with you?
Speaker 4 (02:53):
No, I mean at some point we're going full o
la carte, right, because you do it with cable where
you get that big fight about aarone rights for you know,
ESPN or whatever is the highest and in a given
cable package where you just say, you know, I don't
want that, I don't need those channels, and bit by
bit we're getting to that point. It's like, I just
need these three channels. What does that cost me? I
(03:15):
don't I don't want the rest of it. I don't
offer it to me. I don't want any free previews.
I don't even want to be tempted with it. Three channels.
Let me go back to broadcast, like before Fox existed, ABC, NBC,
and CBS.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
That's it. You click on the guide on your TV
and it's just one page. You can't even scroll up
or not because it's all on the one. Simplify on one. Yeah,
talk about that technology and stuff. See look at that.
You talk about cutting the court. That's like big time
cutting the court. Nine to three the Mets now the
polar Bear. Yeah, hit a big one early on and
now McNeil just doubled a run in the ninth inning
(03:51):
and everybody's booing the Yankees and booing Aaron Boone. If
he comes out to make a pitching change.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
He's still in the game. So that's good.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Find your wins.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Yeah, if only the Mets season still mattered.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Yeah, well, listen, it matters because you're getting Justin Verlander
another good start tonight. You're getting Justin Verlander. You're getting just.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
I'm telling you, none of those guys are getting traded.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
You are gonna ride this to the end like one
of your wheels is coming undone in a chariot race,
and you're gonna.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Ride that home.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
As miserably as it may end. You may end up
drifting outside and finishing eighth in the race, You're still
gonna be in it. You're still you're not getting rid
of it.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
What do you mean drifting outside? If we finish the
eighth threat, how we'd be moving up? I don't know
you're talking.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
It was a horse racing analogy. Stay with me.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
I wasn't counting the futility of the National League. It
was just the the idea of Hey, and down the
stretch they come and you feel pretty good about your horse,
get a lot of horse left right, and you're driving
in the sulky like you're Nicole Jokic and you're giving
the horse the business to try to get you to
the end.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Come on, come on.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
And then everything starts to come undone. It starts to
get a little rickety, you start to shake a little bit.
You got that that wheel starts to feel like it's
coming undone, and your horse you're not You're not as
focused right because you've got a lot of stuff going on.
So you start to drift to the outside, and what
you give up the lightning lane and all of a sudden,
there you're being passed. And it's a feudal effort. But
you know what your mets because of the money spent,
(05:20):
he's gonna be stubborn and he's gonna ride this to
the bitter end.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
See, I think you missed your calling. You could have
been a horse racing analysis and down the.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Stretch thak you know what is here?
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Drifting to the outside. Forget about charlesy Candy all you know,
riding on the horse after interviewing people. Now you could
have been I think you missed your calling. You could
have done that.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
I have a lot of skills. I got a lot
of time left on this earth.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
You don't know what. You don't know what's next for me.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
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the ghetto, it's the last game justin Berlin. Big goings
on tonight, and we're going to revisit something we told
(06:05):
you about a month ago. You know, we hate to
say we told you so we do.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
I really enjoy it.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
But when this story rises to the forefront, this becomes
the biggest story. Leontel Messi in his home debut for
Miami Inner Miami beats Atlanta in the League's Cup for nothing.
Two goals and an assist for Messi, whose night sounded like.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
This see driving forward Obra to Robert Taylor, Taylor cutting
at Pat Martina's nothing.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
There is Apple TV on the call. It's over two games,
not lazy.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Yeah, no, exactly in the last hour.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Yeah, I was starting at seven o'clock for nothing. They
win tonight. He's played two games, so he's got three
goals and an assist. He sets up the fourth goal
as well, and he's at the top of every single
social media post and platform. When you piggyback that with
the news earlier today that Inner Miami has already made
what three hundred million dollars on messy jerseys alone, right,
(07:17):
I mean messy jerseys alone. How much money they've made
on him just being able, just being there and being
able to sign. It is some kind of impact that
he is going to have. But I just don't think
people realize the the the sheer enormity of it. This
is going to happen for a while. It's going to
be the traveling Messy Tour when he goes and plays
(07:39):
away games, and how everybody feels about him going forward
and sellouts and every time he plays, He's going to
be a big front page story. That's how you buy
relevancy is on nights where you have Justin Herbert and
Jalen Brown signing incredibly large deals and Jim Harbaugh's facing
a four game suspension. You got big quarterback news with
Brock Purdy and say Quan Arkley's back. Leonel Messi is
(08:02):
the biggest story because he has that kind of impact.
And within five years, soccer is gonna be the fourth
major sport in the country. It's it's not gonna it's
not look, nothing's gonna get bigger than football. Obviously, the
NBA is at a large route. But we're talking about
a landscape that we've had in this country now for
the past twenty years, where it's been the Big three,
(08:22):
used to be the Big four, then hockey just fell
way off, completely off, because Gary Bettman ran it horribly,
continues to run it horribly, and now hockey is kind
of a cult sport, you know in the United States
now tennants is still up and people go to games,
but there's there's no real television presence and it's tougher
to find relevancy. MLS has all of that, has has
everything you needed. It's got a big star to come
(08:43):
through to make that happen. And as good as the
MLS has been, as they continue to expand, they continue
to get out in and out of markets and it
becomes a bigger and bigger deal and soccer gets bigger
and bigger headlines. It's not only the World Cup where
we talk about soccer. Now, this is going to have
that kind of impact and within five years because look,
Messi's thirty six, Yeah, that's usually when you start slowing down,
(09:06):
but in the MLS, because it's not quite the competition
he's used to, He's gonna have a big run that's
going to go the next three or four years. He's
gonna be really good. He's gonna be able to score,
and he's gonna be able to be a big impact.
And it's gonna be a three year show for Messi
to be able to do all these things. So, yeah,
soccer's gonna wind up the fourth biggest sport in the country,
(09:26):
and we're gonna talk about it regularly like we talk
about the NFL baseball and basketball, and big headlines come
and Messi's the guy Beckham opened the door, and Messi's
the guy that blew right through it and said here,
I'm here. Now I'm ready to make soccer one of
the big four of the United States.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
Yeah, I think the big thing is soccer probably already
is eclipsed hockey if we talk soccer as a whole.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Oh of course, that's but to get up to where
baseball and and you're not and that's Look, that's lofty territory.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
But then you got to figure out what metrics we're
using to define that. Uh, certainly a demographic shift a
lot more kids playing soccer. I didn't play soccer growing up,
but I was on a pitch a couple of times
for intermurals in college because they were desperate for an
extra guy. I said, all this run and I've touched
the ball twice, the hell with this and they didn't
get me.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Out for a third.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
I mean I felt pretty good, like running around like
it was a great exercise.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
It was like, just just passed the ball to Harmon
once he paid money for this camp. I want to
be able to tell his parents that that that he
actually I could just pass it him once we can.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Touch one, That's all I'm asking.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
Well, now most of your baseball diamonds have been replaced
with soccer fields in a lot of communities, right, You've
got that.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
So the growth of the sport.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
Uh, certainly we can talk about the machines that are
the club worlds in both softball and soccer, talk about
AAU basketball, all of those things feeding in. But but
certainly soccer a bigger presence more and more every year
we got the League cut League's Cup going on, which
is what you watched a little bit with with Messi
(11:04):
and the huge performance. By the way, don't forget about
his kid, right who was doing the Vince McMahon Connor
McGregor on the pitch after the game. So I mean
he probably in a four nil game should have gotten
a few minutes. I mean he had did successfully meg
his dad a couple of weeks ago, so or after
his debut, I should say, right, all of that the introduction,
(11:27):
but you know, four hundred and fifty million dollars worth
of Jersey sales. That's the thing to triple underscore here
that look at all the dollars and the eyeballs and
everything that goes through. And this is a day full
of huge stories. I mean we've got a full night.
I mean by ten am, we had five or six
stories that had already gone through that were huge before
(11:51):
he even took the pitch. So it's a big day
and it still cuts through because we celebrate great performances
and he's a guy going to give you a ton
of them on this level. And as you said, even
if he's declining, we watch what's Lawton did on a
per game basis when he was available here in Los Angeles.
(12:11):
No reason that MESSI can't match your top all of that.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Yeah, it's a it's a you could say it's the fourth,
but really the distance between the top three and soccer's like, Okay,
it's got but this you're gonna see the next five years,
that's gonna make its way up to Hey, is it
as popular as baseball? Is it gonna be as popular
as the NBA could be? Frond that that's what it
needs to make up and that's what you're gonna see
the rise. And hey, MLS has been great over the
past years, but now you're gonna see it get to
(12:35):
an even bigger level.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
Yeah again, you're you're going to the MLS side. I'm
just taking it as a whole.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Right.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
We have friendlies, and you have international squads come rolling
into town and they regularly fill eighty thousand seed football stadiums, right,
I mean that we've got one coming in tomorrow?
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Was it?
Speaker 4 (12:54):
Arsenal's playing tomorrow night? Unfortunately, you know, hey, we've got
women's national team that we've got to watch and cover
here at Fox Sports Radio. Otherwise, otherwise you and I
would be there. I mean, Cubs, White Sox, Mets, Yankees, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Mets going for the sweep.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
Come on, man, I really thought you were going to
start the crickets down there, as I said, Cubs, White Sox.
But I mean, there's so much going on and there
are no dog days of August, and July is no
longer a dead period in sports talk radio. There's a
million things going on. So we'll be in studio. But
tell me you don't want to attend a few of
(13:30):
those games, you know, when the friendlies come stateside, so
you know all of those things. You know, everybody's just
salivating and how much you can grow it and start
to expand it.
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Speaker 1 (13:48):
Fox Sports Radio. Not even this song can dampen me.
Right now, the Mets beat the Yankees, pushing the Yankees
to last place. My dad still is not texted me
back when I asked them what the score of the
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You gonna be fun. Waiting for my dad to text
me back from Syracuse. He's out hanging out with his friends.
Go to my son is texting me and look at this,
and they're going, your son sucks. You should just own him.
You have got your son, Steakes. You would never do that.
My son would never do that to me. You know what,
(14:32):
Go get bet the Mets one the Yankees lost? Deal
with it?
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Wow?
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Is that is that the kind of group he hangs
out with? Joan him, he's gone beat it.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
I'm not quite sure. You know, his group changes a
little bit over year to year, like he's in a
gang now. His group changes a little bit from here.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
What man, Some guys are inside, some guys are trying
to adjust to life outside again like my other guys
are lost in the process.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
His best friends are the Dude and Donnie. Yeah, and
then there's that too.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
His best friend is Jax Teller and Opie and I
can just seem like that wearing a Sam Crow cut.
Just go. But you guys sitting around drinking beer talking
about baseball. This is the worst gang ever. What kind
of gang is very intimidating? You start busting out war
and advanced stats. Though, Hey, is there gonna be a
party like any women gonna come? No, now, we're gonna
the game is on at eight eight o'clock. Mets Yankees.
(15:32):
We're watching on the big TV. Okay, you know, I'm
gonna go join that other gang. It looked like they
were having more fun. I'm gonna go join the eighty
nine ers. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go do that.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
All of a sudden, there's battles out there. What's that
on their helmet there? That's a Yankee logo.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Instead of the Sam Crow Reaper, It's it's a it's
a picture of Volpi.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Well, that's just it.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
All of a sudden, there's going guy's got a picture
and Judge pay and on the side of his helm
another guy who's got vogel bag.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
See that's that's an idea. That's an idea right there
in my carbon See you just hit on it.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
I mean, that's a comedy right there.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
You got it. You got it. But outside of this,
and I look, I wish all the best of things
to my dad, Not the Yankees, but my dad. A
big day money wise in the NFL and the NBA,
because we watched early this morning Jalen Brown and the
Celtics agree to a record five year, three hundred and
four million dollars super Max extension, makes him the highest
(16:35):
paid player in NBA history, only to be trumped by
what we saw later on a deal that we were
waiting for it to happen to see what this is
going to mean for Joe Burrow where Justin Herbert agreed
to a five year, two hundred and sixty two and
a half million dollar extension with the Chargers, So now
he's under contract in LA through the twenty twenty nine season.
(16:56):
It means the Chargers can't pay any of their employees
in next few years. Frostburg's going to work for free
producing the games.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
Well, he's just hoping that it yields a ring at
the end of it.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Yeah, no, that's true.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
I'm waiting for pride.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
But boy, I'll tell you, man, to work for free
for the next five years be really difficulty.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Yeah, but I mean, you're not working a day if
you love what you do.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Oh, that is true that you know what You're right
about that.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
I mean I think that added you'll only goes so far.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
But this is me that should be on a T shirt.
You let's put that on it.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Let's get that.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
So you have huge money changing hands right here with
Jalen Brown and Justin Herbert. And this goes back to
what we talked about last night and what we've talked
about when it comes to money. Right we talked about
the Imbape deal that could wind up being as much
as seven hundred and seventy million dollars for one year
for the guy to play in Saudi League. By twenty thirty,
you are going to have an NBA star and an
(17:46):
NFL star making one hundred million dollars a year. And
if you think that's not the case seven years ago,
because we're talking about seven years from now. Seven years
ago highest paid players in the NFL and the NBA,
where Kobe Bryant Andrew Luck they're making twenty five five
million a year. Seven years later, that's doubled. And now
you have Justin Herbert who's gonna be making over fifty
five million dollars a year, and Jalen Brown, who, by
(18:09):
the end of his contract, will be making sixty nine
million dollars a year. This is the twenty twenty nine season,
So you're talking about a guy right now who's gonna
be making sixty nine million dollars at the end of
his contract. Tell me, we're not gonna be there. We're
gonna be there. It's gonna be It's gonna be a kid,
obviously who is in high school now in the NBA
and the NFL. It's gonna wind up to it. It's gonna
(18:30):
be a quarterback and it's gonna be a big player.
But we're seeing it. By twenty thirty, one hundred million
dollar contracts for an NFL quarterback and an NBA star
book it.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
Yeah, it's it's obviously escalating quickly. I've seen a lot
of thought pieces and lamentations and crying for Patrick Mahomes.
The guy took the deal he wanted to take. Okay,
he he could have forced the issue. And don't tell
me that if he didn't go back into the offices today,
they wouldn't try to restructure and work with it. They
(19:00):
recognize the special nature of that quarterback in the room
and what he means for business. As evidence by well,
I mean, all he's got to do is drop a
disc of The Quarterback Show.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Here.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
You guys probably have a DVR sitting around here either
that or on streaming. You can use my account.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Go ahead and watch it.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
See what I did after you, you know, trade it
away Tyreek Hill, and that we still.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Got this done. So don't cry for him.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
He's he's gonna be just fine between endorsements and everything
else many ownership and ball clubs and whatever else.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Even if it is the Royals, it's all good business. Okay.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
So obviously it goes to Joe Burrow next and see
what that becomes in terms of the next man up philosophy.
Because early this morning it was all right, now we're
playing a game of chicken. Who signs first? Who's waiting out? Well,
Herbert you could say, blinked. Yeah, he blinked fifteen times
to make sure that number was right, that he was
(20:00):
signing his name, and that's right, two five right, yeah, okay, good.
Uh So you go through. So you have that deal.
On the basketball side, you got Jalen Brown, and of
course we've got a couple of holdouts that we need
to make sure we mention in terms of Jones Bosa
and Martin Trayvon Diggs got ninety seven million dollars over
(20:21):
five years. Yeah, the economics are just fine. And they're
escalating right in line with what we talked about, good
solid mutual funds, the stock market, the indices. You double
your money in seven years. We may get to that
one hundred million even faster at the current pace.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
And it's funny you say that that Hey Mahomes and
what he got. I don't know that Mahomes is the
guy that that held it back a little bit as
much as Tom Brady did.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
But see he's but he's an outlier, Jason.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
But how many contracts could he have had over the
course here twenty years in New England where he could
easily say I want more money, I want, I want,
so we could we could have been at a level
like we could have been at already, people getting nearly
fifty million dollars a year if Brady had said, hey,
I want more money because I deserve it, but I
would disagree with less boy. But because he took less overall,
(21:12):
that kept the money down because teams can easily look
and an agent's gonna say, look, I can't go back
to a to a to a team and say you're
worth more than Tom Brady. So that that's what we're
dealing with, is a cap It's almost like they had
their own salary cap when when you would have a
Brady was up there. Can you really get that far
out of whack with Brady and Peyton Manning. So so
that was a big thing there and now now nobody cares.
(21:33):
And now now you've seen this, we would have been
up there already. And now Burrow's gonna be the next
guy to really set the mar because he'll get over
sixty million a year. Because if you're comparing the two,
as much as I love Herbert, right, Herbert and Burrow
two of the biggest quarterbacks. Herbert's been to a Super Bowl,
Burrow's been to a Super Bowl. He's a little bit better,
He's achieved a little bit more with the team. He's
(21:53):
gonna get more money. He'll be in the sixties when
it starts his cone.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
Yeah, but I would say, going back to the Brady thing,
that he's the right. You could go in there and
as a team you could say, hey, Tom Brady, only
you know he takes this amount of money. It's like,
I'm not Tom Brady. I don't have the same circumstances
as Tom Brady, where at the time I'm married to
someone who makes as much or more per year than
I do so using him. I mean, he's one of
(22:19):
thirty two starters, and yes, the most accomplished, the goat
everything else. But I don't think his contract changed the marketplace.
I mean, you got all these other deals. I think
they're independent of what he was doing because his was
just such a unique circumstance.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Yeah, but he still could have gotten more money. He
still no.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Yeah, I'm not saying he couldn't have.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
But I don't think it depresses the marketplace because I
think everybody like the argument of hey, Tom Brady only
took this, well you need me as a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Tom Brady ain't walking through that door.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Yeah, but if Brady put it, let's say earlier, Brady
pushed this out the top salaries to thirty million, Brady
signs this deal for thirty million, then the younger guy's
coming up. Instead of signing for twenty million, they're signing
for twenty seven to twenty eight million. And then Brady's
next deal is up at forty million. And then by
the time we get to twenty twenty, we have guys
that are that were already making fifty million dollars a year.
(23:10):
You know, that that could have happened because the NFL
has always been fat and happy, right they found a
way to make all the way through everything else. It
could have been even higher at that point had Brady
done it. But Brady did what he wanted to do
for himself. He wanted to win super Bowls, he wanted
to continue to ensure that the team was competitive, and
he still made a lot of money and still was
able to do it. But he was able to cement
his legacy as the biggest winner the sport has ever
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seen because I took less and that allowed us to
go out and pay for other players he needed other
different positions. But it could have even it could have
even been higher at this point, and it could have
been we could have might be talking about getting there
at like twenty twenty seven, you know, at that point,
it could have been even close into this right now
is twenty thirty. It's a nice round number to say
he has seven years and here's a guy that probably
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at some point is in high school and he's going
to get to the NFL and sign his first deal,
and then his second deal is going to be the
big record setting one at one hundred million dollars. Mamember
Mahomes is gonna get another big deal A signed. So
is Josh Allen at some point. So all these top
players are all going to sign at least another big
contract going forward, and they can all say, hey, yeah,
I deserve more than this guy. You know, Josh Allen
(24:13):
could say I, well, I've done more than Joe Burrow
or I've done more than Herbert and I'd get to
So you're gonna see that continue to go, go go, man.
I mean, I think maybe he might be right, might
be before twenty thirty, but twenty thirty. If I'm saying
the salaries doubled in the last seven years, give another
seven years twenty thirty hundred million sounds pretty good.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
Yeah, I think it works out perfectly in that respect.
I just would love to pull the number of GMS
that were in the room where the Brady thing came up,
because I would guarantee in most cases it was asked
and answered on behalf of the player that was being
represented and talking to the GMS like I don't have
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Tom Brady's two hundred. I haven't played twenty years like
Tom Brady or even when he was at ten years
ten years used to be a long time for a right.
I mean, you think about the way the game has changed,
the expectations that you're going to stay viable this late.
And obviously Manning, even when he came back after all
(25:12):
the surgeries, he was able to cobble together or run
before his body completely failed him. Drew Brees got to
forty and what happened. His arm fell off. Philip Rivers
was throwing underhanded. We love Philip Rivers, but he was
throwing underhanded. Didn't stop him in any other way Physically.
He's doing just fine, as we find out, but the
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arm was done. And then Aaron Rodgers will see he
looks like Gazoo and he's leaned out.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
So he wins two Super Bowls with the Jets. He's
gonna get that big Stension's gonna be up in sixty
five and twelve.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
But again, the point being late thirties that we're seeing
these guys. They're still outliers on the grand scale, but
we're starting to treat him like it's normalized because we
happened to get four now and look, with nutrition changing
as it has, workouts, the rehab process, all of these
things bigger, faster, stronger supplements and the just what we
(26:06):
know about the human body and recovery and all of
that soul light years of what it was from twenty
years ago. So yeah, you're gonna get guys on their
third fourth if only you can do that for running
backs too soon. Hey, congratulations Saw Barkley. Everybody's like, we're
holding out, not me, got mine, But it's the Brady
(26:27):
one just was always an outlier for me. Just you
can't go in saying, well it works for him, Yeah,
we're not him and our team stinks, so I want
my money now.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
The biggest advant now, when you look at both of
these deals, right, Herbert and Jalen Brown both getting all
this attent, especially Jalen Brown because you're looking at the
last year of his deal, he's gonna get sixty nine.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
Well, but also, you know, the money side is one thing.
The other is are you winning yeah, after what you
did to your roster? Yeah, and you know Grant Williams
and Malcolm Brown are gone. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
But and that's the thing, and that's the advantage that
NBA players have over NFL players, right because Jalen Brown's
a two time All Star whose player efficiency rating last
year was fiftieth, okay, right around Desmond Bine. Right, doesn't
mean he's not a great player. But this is a
guy who's got the biggest contract in NBA history. He's
been an All Star twice. All right, he's been an
(27:19):
All Star twice, and and and here he is again.
Player efficiency rating is fiftieth. Right. So the reason that
we see this happening in the NBA is the NBA
and these stars have something that is just so scary
to every other, to all of their teams that teams
in other leagues don't find is scary. And that's replacing
(27:42):
a star. All Right. Teams replace stars in the NFL
and Major League Baseball all the time. They let guys
go to free agency. They let guys leave whenever they
feel like, ah, we don't know how good they're gonna be. Boy,
that's a lot of money. The Packers let Aaron Rodgers go,
you know, the Patriots let Tom Brady go. You see
all the time, the Nationals let Bryce Harper go. The
(28:03):
Angels are gonna have to let show Heyo Tani go
because they have big pipelines to bring new stars in
as much, Boy, it sucks to let this guy go.
But hey, we have this great shortstop in Triple A
who's hitting three point fifteen. We're gonna be he's gonna
be awesome. Yeah, we can let Trey Turner go and
sign a big contract someplace else. MLB teams, NFL teams
always churn on to the next guy, right the Packers say, well,
(28:24):
we draft Jordan Love like we really like the guy. Yeah,
we can let Aaron Rodgers go. In the NBA, you
can't do that because if you let a star go,
there's not enough of them. There's not enough good players.
There's not enough players coming up in the pipeline to say,
if we lose Jalen Brown, hey, the couple of guys
we have here that we got in the draft the
last couple of years or figuring it out. No, the draft,
sometimes players are four or five years away from just
(28:45):
being good role players. So that scares teams. Players have
the have the hammer way more in the NBA than
any other sport. Because what the Celtics did is look
at this and go, Okay, is Jalen Brown a great,
great player? No? But and there was a lot in
the playoffs last year where Jalen Brown did not give
the Celtics enough and he was a guy that's getting
a lot of the blame. And here he is three
(29:06):
hundred million dollars and he's got the biggest contract in
NBA history because the Celtics said, well, we did this
to get better, and they got scared. Can we replace
Jalen Brown? We can't. We can't, we can't and expect
to win. So yeah, let's sign him because we're scared
of what the reality is if we don't have him. Meanwhile,
is he worth the money, No, he's not. But it's
too scary of a reality without him because suddenly all
(29:29):
these moves are making we're not gonna win because they're
not going to replace what he does. So that's a
big thing with the NBA has all the stars over everybody.
That's why these salaries are getting bigger and bigger and bigger,
and stars here are making sixty nine million dollars in
the final year and NFL stars are still making fifty
million in the final year. They have that big time leverage. Man,
I wish I was an NBA star.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
Yeah, well, no question about it. Wish I wish I
was a little bit taller. I wish I was a baller.
I also wish that the synapses were firing. I was
the name I was searching for was Marcus Smart in
my head, who's no longer on that squad. You've shuffled
up a couple of your core guys, your key veterans,
in Williams and Smart, and then you paid Jalen Brown
(30:07):
three hundred million dollars.
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Speaker 3 (30:37):
Seven years, seven years, seven years. I'd take the all
the time, seven years, seven year itch for this one.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Huh yeah, yeah, yeah. Sometimes hamburgers can be bad for you.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Okay, all right, that's what you call it tease.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Sometimes hamburgers can be bad for you. I knew it.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
You dreamed that hamburger was eating me.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
A great dream that would be like I could feel
like I could just go and start eating the hamburger.
I'm fighting back. Oh, like when Homer takes the bite
out of the chocolate dog and he thrown in when
he is in zilend of chocolate, the dog runs bid
he thinks a bite at it.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
It's a reversal.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
We are looking at a four game suspension for Jim Harbaugh,
University of Michigan head coach. He is negotiating with the
NCAA because he did not tell the truth about an
investigation into bad recruiting practices during the COVID shutdown. So
we're going back like three years for this. Remember we've
(31:38):
heard a little bit about this story over the course
of the past few months that the nca came to town
a Harbaugh a couple potential recruiting violations. He is looking
at a four game suspension because he did not tell
the truth or was a forthcoming with the NCAA and
about a potential recruiting violation. Now, what is this over.
This is over the much publicized Hamburger gate, where Harball
(32:01):
allegedly bought players potential recruits Hamburgers at a local restaurant
in ann Arbor, which turned out to be a very
minor recruiting violation. But the cover up always worse than
the crime because he lied. This is why he's looking
at a four game suspension. So Alex tight Shirt. Sometimes
hamburgers are bad for you, and they're bad for Jim Harball.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
Sounds about right, actually really, OK?
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Yeah, all right, we'll think.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
About this way. Jay. Is there ever such thing as
too much Ryan? I think this is the case.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
Look, and as a guy who we're gonna have Pete
Futec on next hour, and there's so much going on,
and the next generation of Mike Carman on his soapbox
yelling fire them all in Evanston look little things, and you.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Know that's kind of innocuous. All right, that's not a
big deal.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
No, No, there's a snowball, and where there's a little bit
of smoke, there may be a giant fire behind it.
And so for Jim Harbaugh, the fact that we're negotiating,
when the hell did the NCAA at least admit to negotiating,
Like we're all reasonable grown ups and we would recognize
that behind the scenes there's gonna be a lot of
(33:13):
cajoling and a lot of back and forth of all right,
what do we really do here? How significant is this?
You gotta pay a penalty? We've got a show that
we're still tough. I know those conversations been going and
we've watched it with all of these these different infractions
through the year. We saw that canned joke show that
came out on a Friday Dump a couple of weeks
ago with Tennessee. You got two hundred violations. Nah, eight
(33:35):
million dollars, no bowl band. Guess what, we'll strip some
wins that you had. Nobody really cares. So it's not
gonna matter. We're not taking back any of the money
from the Orange Bowl or anything else you did. So
it's just an eight million dollar fine and a couple
of scholarships because you were so forthcoming. But you get
to negotiate a four game suspension.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
What a clown show.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
Well, but it's it's over Hamburgers, man, I mean it's Hamburger.
You say Hamburgers, I say Burgers.
Speaker 4 (34:04):
I say there's probably more to that story than just Hamburger.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
This is over Hamburgers.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
But that's what they want you to believe it's just
over hamburgers.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
It's a hot dog and a cony dog, And yeah
it was. There were some fries involved. There may have
been some cheese. Look, we got to really get to
the bottom of this. Okay, it's not just that.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
Well, but it's the principle of the thing if it's
still quote illegal, And that's where we get into all
the fights and the bill that they're trying to pass
that went up saying we've got to work for the
integrity the sanity of college sports, all of this nonsense
that we've had for so long. This is still technically
(34:45):
against the rules as they stand. You can laugh about it.
I mean, look, sure, Look Trussel lost his job because
some kids traded some crap they didn't want for tattoo toos.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Yeah, I think about that.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
How dare you you gave me this jacket. It's my jacket,
right all right? I want other stuff. I want to
trade it for other goods and services. No, you are
stuck with that jacket forever.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
I think four games for four Hamburgers is probably a
pretty even trade. I would say I think four games
against four also ran teams that Michigan is gonna win
by fifty.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
First he gets a more vacation.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
I think it's pretty even for four hamburgers. What it is,
That's what it wasn't you know, briefcases full of money.
It's hamburgers, hamburgers. I love more in this story coming
up next hour as well, but the biggest story of
the day in the NFL coming up next right here,
Jason and Mike Fox.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
I knew the burgers were bad.
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heard from Brian Fenley, we got big time money conversations
coming up in a few minutes, justin Herbert Jalen Brown.
But I'll I'll tell you what, Mike Carmen, just for
a sec. Everybody is looking for positives in life every day.
You know, sometimes it's tough and you gotta find is.
You say, find your wins when you can get them.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
All of us. Yeah, what's up.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Look the Mets, we're gonna trade everybody this week. We stink,
but here we are about to lay a big whooping
on the Yankees and we're gonna knock them into last
place in the Al East. I'm taking a W tonight.
I'm taking I'm taking a Now there is a six
run lead in the ninth inning that Mets bullpen, blah
blah blah. But I will take that big W tonight.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Well, but you're not dead.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
That's the that's the problem with this the way it's
the muddled middle, the extra wildcards, all of these things.
You need one good week and all of a sudden
the eyebrow raises. You go woll And playing the Yankees.
I mean, you get both things. You get to mock
your dad and he'll go away for a couple of days.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
For you.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
You won't have to, you know, deal with whatever Walt
throws your way or Fabiano or.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Oh, my dad's already done, because this is my dad's
gone to Syracuse. He goes Syracuse every.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Year, the sojourn, the Syracuse.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
At this point, okay, yeah, he's on his Syracuse sojourn, right,
So he sends me a text today, Are you ready
for some baseball? And I said, yeah, you're ready, goes, yeah,
you ready for an l I'm like, wow, dad, okay
now suddenly and then I texted him and I just
gave him the old text. Hey, my internet's not working.
What's the score of the game? Nothing? Radio silent?
Speaker 4 (02:22):
Oh no, he's well, it's also so he's watching Matt Locke.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
No, no, no, he's watching the No no, no, kid, no, no
he's watching.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
No, he's not watching this game anymore. If he's moving on.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
If he could have a tier where he's probably crying
a few of them, his own personal cable tier where
he could watch baseball, golf and ncis, Like, if that
was a tier you could buy, he would buy that tier. Okay,
I just want baseball games, and I want golf, and
I want and I want n cis.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Big Mark har guy.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
All right, that's all he needs. I mean, can you
do that? You got to be able to do that
at some point, right with you?
Speaker 4 (02:53):
No, I mean at some point we're going full o
la carte, right, because you do it with cable where
you get that big fight about aarone rights for you know,
ESPN or whatever is the highest and in a given
cable package where you just say, you know, I don't
want that, I don't need those channels, and bit by
bit we're getting to that point. It's like, I just
need these three channels. What does that cost me? I
(03:15):
don't I don't want the rest of it. I don't
offer it to me. I don't want any free previews.
I don't even want to be tempted with it. Three channels.
Let me go back to broadcast, like before Fox existed, ABC, NBC,
and CBS.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
That's it. You click on the guide on your TV
and it's just one page. You can't even scroll up
or not because it's all on the one. Simplify on one. Yeah,
talk about that technology and stuff. See look at that.
You talk about cutting the court. That's like big time
cutting the court. Nine to three the Mets now the
polar Bear. Yeah, hit a big one early on and
now McNeil just doubled a run in the ninth inning
(03:51):
and everybody's booing the Yankees and booing Aaron Boone. If
he comes out to make a pitching change.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
He's still in the game. So that's good.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Find your wins.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Yeah, if only the Mets season still mattered.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Yeah, well, listen, it matters because you're getting Justin Verlander
another good start tonight. You're getting Justin Verlander. You're getting just.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
I'm telling you, none of those guys are getting traded.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
You are gonna ride this to the end like one
of your wheels is coming undone in a chariot race,
and you're gonna.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Ride that home.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
As miserably as it may end. You may end up
drifting outside and finishing eighth in the race, You're still
gonna be in it. You're still you're not getting rid
of it.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
What do you mean drifting outside? If we finish the
eighth threat, how we'd be moving up? I don't know
you're talking.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
It was a horse racing analogy. Stay with me.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
I wasn't counting the futility of the National League. It
was just the the idea of Hey, and down the
stretch they come and you feel pretty good about your horse,
get a lot of horse left right, and you're driving
in the sulky like you're Nicole Jokic and you're giving
the horse the business to try to get you to
the end.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Come on, come on.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
And then everything starts to come undone. It starts to
get a little rickety, you start to shake a little bit.
You got that that wheel starts to feel like it's
coming undone, and your horse you're not You're not as
focused right because you've got a lot of stuff going on.
So you start to drift to the outside, and what
you give up the lightning lane and all of a sudden,
there you're being passed. And it's a feudal effort. But
you know what your mets because of the money spent,
(05:20):
he's gonna be stubborn and he's gonna ride this to
the bitter end.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
See, I think you missed your calling. You could have
been a horse racing analysis and down the.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Stretch thak you know what is here?
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Drifting to the outside. Forget about charlesy Candy all you know,
riding on the horse after interviewing people. Now you could
have been I think you missed your calling. You could
have done that.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
I have a lot of skills. I got a lot
of time left on this earth.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
You don't know what. You don't know what's next for me.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
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the ghetto, it's the last game justin Berlin. Big goings
on tonight, and we're going to revisit something we told
(06:05):
you about a month ago. You know, we hate to
say we told you so we do.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
I really enjoy it.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
But when this story rises to the forefront, this becomes
the biggest story. Leontel Messi in his home debut for
Miami Inner Miami beats Atlanta in the League's Cup for nothing.
Two goals and an assist for Messi, whose night sounded like.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
This see driving forward Obra to Robert Taylor, Taylor cutting
at Pat Martina's nothing.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
There is Apple TV on the call. It's over two games,
not lazy.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Yeah, no, exactly in the last hour.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Yeah, I was starting at seven o'clock for nothing. They
win tonight. He's played two games, so he's got three
goals and an assist. He sets up the fourth goal
as well, and he's at the top of every single
social media post and platform. When you piggyback that with
the news earlier today that Inner Miami has already made
what three hundred million dollars on messy jerseys alone, right,
(07:17):
I mean messy jerseys alone. How much money they've made
on him just being able, just being there and being
able to sign. It is some kind of impact that
he is going to have. But I just don't think
people realize the the the sheer enormity of it. This
is going to happen for a while. It's going to
be the traveling Messy Tour when he goes and plays
(07:39):
away games, and how everybody feels about him going forward
and sellouts and every time he plays, He's going to
be a big front page story. That's how you buy
relevancy is on nights where you have Justin Herbert and
Jalen Brown signing incredibly large deals and Jim Harbaugh's facing
a four game suspension. You got big quarterback news with
Brock Purdy and say Quan Arkley's back. Leonel Messi is
(08:02):
the biggest story because he has that kind of impact.
And within five years, soccer is gonna be the fourth
major sport in the country. It's it's not gonna it's
not look, nothing's gonna get bigger than football. Obviously, the
NBA is at a large route. But we're talking about
a landscape that we've had in this country now for
the past twenty years, where it's been the Big three,
(08:22):
used to be the Big four, then hockey just fell
way off, completely off, because Gary Bettman ran it horribly,
continues to run it horribly, and now hockey is kind
of a cult sport, you know in the United States
now tennants is still up and people go to games,
but there's there's no real television presence and it's tougher
to find relevancy. MLS has all of that, has has
everything you needed. It's got a big star to come
(08:43):
through to make that happen. And as good as the
MLS has been, as they continue to expand, they continue
to get out in and out of markets and it
becomes a bigger and bigger deal and soccer gets bigger
and bigger headlines. It's not only the World Cup where
we talk about soccer. Now, this is going to have
that kind of impact and within five years because look,
Messi's thirty six, Yeah, that's usually when you start slowing down,
(09:06):
but in the MLS, because it's not quite the competition
he's used to, He's gonna have a big run that's
going to go the next three or four years. He's
gonna be really good. He's gonna be able to score,
and he's gonna be able to be a big impact.
And it's gonna be a three year show for Messi
to be able to do all these things. So, yeah,
soccer's gonna wind up the fourth biggest sport in the country,
(09:26):
and we're gonna talk about it regularly like we talk
about the NFL baseball and basketball, and big headlines come
and Messi's the guy Beckham opened the door, and Messi's
the guy that blew right through it and said here,
I'm here. Now I'm ready to make soccer one of
the big four of the United States.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
Yeah, I think the big thing is soccer probably already
is eclipsed hockey if we talk soccer as a whole.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Oh of course, that's but to get up to where
baseball and and you're not and that's Look, that's lofty territory.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
But then you got to figure out what metrics we're
using to define that. Uh, certainly a demographic shift a
lot more kids playing soccer. I didn't play soccer growing up,
but I was on a pitch a couple of times
for intermurals in college because they were desperate for an
extra guy. I said, all this run and I've touched
the ball twice, the hell with this and they didn't
get me.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Out for a third.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
I mean I felt pretty good, like running around like
it was a great exercise.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
It was like, just just passed the ball to Harmon
once he paid money for this camp. I want to
be able to tell his parents that that that he
actually I could just pass it him once we can.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Touch one, That's all I'm asking.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
Well, now most of your baseball diamonds have been replaced
with soccer fields in a lot of communities, right, You've
got that.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
So the growth of the sport.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
Uh, certainly we can talk about the machines that are
the club worlds in both softball and soccer, talk about
AAU basketball, all of those things feeding in. But but
certainly soccer a bigger presence more and more every year
we got the League cut League's Cup going on, which
is what you watched a little bit with with Messi
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and the huge performance. By the way, don't forget about
his kid, right who was doing the Vince McMahon Connor
McGregor on the pitch after the game. So I mean
he probably in a four nil game should have gotten
a few minutes. I mean he had did successfully meg
his dad a couple of weeks ago, so or after
his debut, I should say, right, all of that the introduction,
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but you know, four hundred and fifty million dollars worth
of Jersey sales. That's the thing to triple underscore here
that look at all the dollars and the eyeballs and
everything that goes through. And this is a day full
of huge stories. I mean we've got a full night.
I mean by ten am, we had five or six
stories that had already gone through that were huge before
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he even took the pitch. So it's a big day
and it still cuts through because we celebrate great performances
and he's a guy going to give you a ton
of them on this level. And as you said, even
if he's declining, we watch what's Lawton did on a
per game basis when he was available here in Los Angeles.
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No reason that MESSI can't match your top all of that.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Yeah, it's a it's a you could say it's the fourth,
but really the distance between the top three and soccer's like, Okay,
it's got but this you're gonna see the next five years,
that's gonna make its way up to Hey, is it
as popular as baseball? Is it gonna be as popular
as the NBA could be? Frond that that's what it
needs to make up and that's what you're gonna see
the rise. And hey, MLS has been great over the
past years, but now you're gonna see it get to
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an even bigger level.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
Yeah again, you're you're going to the MLS side. I'm
just taking it as a whole.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Right.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
We have friendlies, and you have international squads come rolling
into town and they regularly fill eighty thousand seed football stadiums, right,
I mean that we've got one coming in tomorrow?
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Was it?
Speaker 4 (12:54):
Arsenal's playing tomorrow night? Unfortunately, you know, hey, we've got
women's national team that we've got to watch and cover
here at Fox Sports Radio. Otherwise, otherwise you and I
would be there. I mean, Cubs, White Sox, Mets, Yankees, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Mets going for the sweep.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
Come on, man, I really thought you were going to
start the crickets down there, as I said, Cubs, White Sox.
But I mean, there's so much going on and there
are no dog days of August, and July is no
longer a dead period in sports talk radio. There's a
million things going on. So we'll be in studio. But
tell me you don't want to attend a few of
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those games, you know, when the friendlies come stateside, so
you know all of those things. You know, everybody's just
salivating and how much you can grow it and start
to expand it.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
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Speaker 1 (13:48):
Fox Sports Radio. Not even this song can dampen me.
Right now, the Mets beat the Yankees, pushing the Yankees
to last place. My dad still is not texted me
back when I asked them what the score of the
game was. Tonight is glorious. It is absolutely glorious. New phone.
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You gonna be fun. Waiting for my dad to text
me back from Syracuse. He's out hanging out with his friends.
Go to my son is texting me and look at this,
and they're going, your son sucks. You should just own him.
You have got your son, Steakes. You would never do that.
My son would never do that to me. You know what,
(14:32):
Go get bet the Mets one the Yankees lost? Deal
with it?
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Wow?
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Is that is that the kind of group he hangs
out with? Joan him, he's gone beat it.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
I'm not quite sure. You know, his group changes a
little bit over year to year, like he's in a
gang now. His group changes a little bit from here.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
What man, Some guys are inside, some guys are trying
to adjust to life outside again like my other guys
are lost in the process.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
His best friends are the Dude and Donnie. Yeah, and
then there's that too.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
His best friend is Jax Teller and Opie and I
can just seem like that wearing a Sam Crow cut.
Just go. But you guys sitting around drinking beer talking
about baseball. This is the worst gang ever. What kind
of gang is very intimidating? You start busting out war
and advanced stats. Though, Hey, is there gonna be a
party like any women gonna come? No, now, we're gonna
the game is on at eight eight o'clock. Mets Yankees.
(15:32):
We're watching on the big TV. Okay, you know, I'm
gonna go join that other gang. It looked like they
were having more fun. I'm gonna go join the eighty
nine ers. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go do that.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
All of a sudden, there's battles out there. What's that
on their helmet there? That's a Yankee logo.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Instead of the Sam Crow Reaper, It's it's a it's
a picture of Volpi.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Well, that's just it.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
All of a sudden, there's going guy's got a picture
and Judge pay and on the side of his helm
another guy who's got vogel bag.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
See that's that's an idea. That's an idea right there
in my carbon See you just hit on it.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
I mean, that's a comedy right there.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
You got it. You got it. But outside of this,
and I look, I wish all the best of things
to my dad, Not the Yankees, but my dad. A
big day money wise in the NFL and the NBA,
because we watched early this morning Jalen Brown and the
Celtics agree to a record five year, three hundred and
four million dollars super Max extension, makes him the highest
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paid player in NBA history, only to be trumped by
what we saw later on a deal that we were
waiting for it to happen to see what this is
going to mean for Joe Burrow where Justin Herbert agreed
to a five year, two hundred and sixty two and
a half million dollar extension with the Chargers, So now
he's under contract in LA through the twenty twenty nine season.
(16:56):
It means the Chargers can't pay any of their employees
in next few years. Frostburg's going to work for free
producing the games.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
Well, he's just hoping that it yields a ring at
the end of it.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Yeah, no, that's true.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
I'm waiting for pride.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
But boy, I'll tell you, man, to work for free
for the next five years be really difficulty.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Yeah, but I mean, you're not working a day if
you love what you do.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Oh, that is true that you know what You're right
about that.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
I mean I think that added you'll only goes so far.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
But this is me that should be on a T shirt.
You let's put that on it.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Let's get that.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
So you have huge money changing hands right here with
Jalen Brown and Justin Herbert. And this goes back to
what we talked about last night and what we've talked
about when it comes to money. Right we talked about
the Imbape deal that could wind up being as much
as seven hundred and seventy million dollars for one year
for the guy to play in Saudi League. By twenty thirty,
you are going to have an NBA star and an
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NFL star making one hundred million dollars a year. And
if you think that's not the case seven years ago,
because we're talking about seven years from now. Seven years
ago highest paid players in the NFL and the NBA,
where Kobe Bryant Andrew Luck they're making twenty five five
million a year. Seven years later, that's doubled. And now
you have Justin Herbert who's gonna be making over fifty
five million dollars a year, and Jalen Brown, who, by
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the end of his contract, will be making sixty nine
million dollars a year. This is the twenty twenty nine season,
So you're talking about a guy right now who's gonna
be making sixty nine million dollars at the end of
his contract. Tell me, we're not gonna be there. We're
gonna be there. It's gonna be It's gonna be a kid,
obviously who is in high school now in the NBA
and the NFL. It's gonna wind up to it. It's gonna
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be a quarterback and it's gonna be a big player.
But we're seeing it. By twenty thirty, one hundred million
dollar contracts for an NFL quarterback and an NBA star
book it.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
Yeah, it's it's obviously escalating quickly. I've seen a lot
of thought pieces and lamentations and crying for Patrick Mahomes.
The guy took the deal he wanted to take. Okay,
he he could have forced the issue. And don't tell
me that if he didn't go back into the offices today,
they wouldn't try to restructure and work with it. They
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recognize the special nature of that quarterback in the room
and what he means for business. As evidence by well,
I mean, all he's got to do is drop a
disc of The Quarterback Show.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Here.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
You guys probably have a DVR sitting around here either
that or on streaming. You can use my account.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Go ahead and watch it.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
See what I did after you, you know, trade it
away Tyreek Hill, and that we still.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Got this done. So don't cry for him.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
He's he's gonna be just fine between endorsements and everything
else many ownership and ball clubs and whatever else.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Even if it is the Royals, it's all good business. Okay.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
So obviously it goes to Joe Burrow next and see
what that becomes in terms of the next man up philosophy.
Because early this morning it was all right, now we're
playing a game of chicken. Who signs first? Who's waiting out? Well,
Herbert you could say, blinked. Yeah, he blinked fifteen times
to make sure that number was right, that he was
(20:00):
signing his name, and that's right, two five right, yeah, okay, good.
Uh So you go through. So you have that deal.
On the basketball side, you got Jalen Brown, and of
course we've got a couple of holdouts that we need
to make sure we mention in terms of Jones Bosa
and Martin Trayvon Diggs got ninety seven million dollars over
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five years. Yeah, the economics are just fine. And they're
escalating right in line with what we talked about, good
solid mutual funds, the stock market, the indices. You double
your money in seven years. We may get to that
one hundred million even faster at the current pace.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
And it's funny you say that that Hey Mahomes and
what he got. I don't know that Mahomes is the
guy that that held it back a little bit as
much as Tom Brady did.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
But see he's but he's an outlier, Jason.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
But how many contracts could he have had over the
course here twenty years in New England where he could
easily say I want more money, I want, I want,
so we could we could have been at a level
like we could have been at already, people getting nearly
fifty million dollars a year if Brady had said, hey,
I want more money because I deserve it, but I
would disagree with less boy. But because he took less overall,
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that kept the money down because teams can easily look
and an agent's gonna say, look, I can't go back
to a to a to a team and say you're
worth more than Tom Brady. So that that's what we're
dealing with, is a cap It's almost like they had
their own salary cap when when you would have a
Brady was up there. Can you really get that far
out of whack with Brady and Peyton Manning. So so
that was a big thing there and now now nobody cares.
(21:33):
And now now you've seen this, we would have been
up there already. And now Burrow's gonna be the next
guy to really set the mar because he'll get over
sixty million a year. Because if you're comparing the two,
as much as I love Herbert, right, Herbert and Burrow
two of the biggest quarterbacks. Herbert's been to a Super Bowl,
Burrow's been to a Super Bowl. He's a little bit better,
He's achieved a little bit more with the team. He's
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gonna get more money. He'll be in the sixties when
it starts his cone.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
Yeah, but I would say, going back to the Brady thing,
that he's the right. You could go in there and
as a team you could say, hey, Tom Brady, only
you know he takes this amount of money. It's like,
I'm not Tom Brady. I don't have the same circumstances
as Tom Brady, where at the time I'm married to
someone who makes as much or more per year than
I do so using him. I mean, he's one of
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thirty two starters, and yes, the most accomplished, the goat
everything else. But I don't think his contract changed the marketplace.
I mean, you got all these other deals. I think
they're independent of what he was doing because his was
just such a unique circumstance.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Yeah, but he still could have gotten more money. He
still no.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Yeah, I'm not saying he couldn't have.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
But I don't think it depresses the marketplace because I
think everybody like the argument of hey, Tom Brady only
took this, well you need me as a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Tom Brady ain't walking through that door.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Yeah, but if Brady put it, let's say earlier, Brady
pushed this out the top salaries to thirty million, Brady
signs this deal for thirty million, then the younger guy's
coming up. Instead of signing for twenty million, they're signing
for twenty seven to twenty eight million. And then Brady's
next deal is up at forty million. And then by
the time we get to twenty twenty, we have guys
that are that were already making fifty million dollars a year.
(23:10):
You know, that that could have happened because the NFL
has always been fat and happy, right they found a
way to make all the way through everything else. It
could have been even higher at that point had Brady
done it. But Brady did what he wanted to do
for himself. He wanted to win super Bowls, he wanted
to continue to ensure that the team was competitive, and
he still made a lot of money and still was
able to do it. But he was able to cement
his legacy as the biggest winner the sport has ever
(23:31):
seen because I took less and that allowed us to
go out and pay for other players he needed other
different positions. But it could have even it could have
even been higher at this point, and it could have
been we could have might be talking about getting there
at like twenty twenty seven, you know, at that point,
it could have been even close into this right now
is twenty thirty. It's a nice round number to say
he has seven years and here's a guy that probably
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at some point is in high school and he's going
to get to the NFL and sign his first deal,
and then his second deal is going to be the
big record setting one at one hundred million dollars. Mamember
Mahomes is gonna get another big deal A signed. So
is Josh Allen at some point. So all these top
players are all going to sign at least another big
contract going forward, and they can all say, hey, yeah,
I deserve more than this guy. You know, Josh Allen
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could say I, well, I've done more than Joe Burrow
or I've done more than Herbert and I'd get to
So you're gonna see that continue to go, go go, man.
I mean, I think maybe he might be right, might
be before twenty thirty, but twenty thirty. If I'm saying
the salaries doubled in the last seven years, give another
seven years twenty thirty hundred million sounds pretty good.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
Yeah, I think it works out perfectly in that respect.
I just would love to pull the number of GMS
that were in the room where the Brady thing came up,
because I would guarantee in most cases it was asked
and answered on behalf of the player that was being
represented and talking to the GMS like I don't have
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Tom Brady's two hundred. I haven't played twenty years like
Tom Brady or even when he was at ten years
ten years used to be a long time for a right.
I mean, you think about the way the game has changed,
the expectations that you're going to stay viable this late.
And obviously Manning, even when he came back after all
(25:12):
the surgeries, he was able to cobble together or run
before his body completely failed him. Drew Brees got to
forty and what happened. His arm fell off. Philip Rivers
was throwing underhanded. We love Philip Rivers, but he was
throwing underhanded. Didn't stop him in any other way Physically.
He's doing just fine, as we find out, but the
(25:34):
arm was done. And then Aaron Rodgers will see he
looks like Gazoo and he's leaned out.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
So he wins two Super Bowls with the Jets. He's
gonna get that big Stension's gonna be up in sixty
five and twelve.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
But again, the point being late thirties that we're seeing
these guys. They're still outliers on the grand scale, but
we're starting to treat him like it's normalized because we
happened to get four now and look, with nutrition changing
as it has, workouts, the rehab process, all of these
things bigger, faster, stronger supplements and the just what we
(26:06):
know about the human body and recovery and all of
that soul light years of what it was from twenty
years ago. So yeah, you're gonna get guys on their
third fourth if only you can do that for running
backs too soon. Hey, congratulations Saw Barkley. Everybody's like, we're
holding out, not me, got mine, But it's the Brady
(26:27):
one just was always an outlier for me. Just you
can't go in saying, well it works for him, Yeah,
we're not him and our team stinks, so I want
my money now.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
The biggest advant now, when you look at both of
these deals, right, Herbert and Jalen Brown both getting all
this attent, especially Jalen Brown because you're looking at the
last year of his deal, he's gonna get sixty nine.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
Well, but also, you know, the money side is one thing.
The other is are you winning yeah, after what you
did to your roster? Yeah, and you know Grant Williams
and Malcolm Brown are gone. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
But and that's the thing, and that's the advantage that
NBA players have over NFL players, right because Jalen Brown's
a two time All Star whose player efficiency rating last
year was fiftieth, okay, right around Desmond Bine. Right, doesn't
mean he's not a great player. But this is a
guy who's got the biggest contract in NBA history. He's
been an All Star twice. All right, he's been an
(27:19):
All Star twice, and and and here he is again.
Player efficiency rating is fiftieth. Right. So the reason that
we see this happening in the NBA is the NBA
and these stars have something that is just so scary
to every other, to all of their teams that teams
in other leagues don't find is scary. And that's replacing
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a star. All Right. Teams replace stars in the NFL
and Major League Baseball all the time. They let guys
go to free agency. They let guys leave whenever they
feel like, ah, we don't know how good they're gonna be. Boy,
that's a lot of money. The Packers let Aaron Rodgers go,
you know, the Patriots let Tom Brady go. You see
all the time, the Nationals let Bryce Harper go. The
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Angels are gonna have to let show Heyo Tani go
because they have big pipelines to bring new stars in
as much, Boy, it sucks to let this guy go.
But hey, we have this great shortstop in Triple A
who's hitting three point fifteen. We're gonna be he's gonna
be awesome. Yeah, we can let Trey Turner go and
sign a big contract someplace else. MLB teams, NFL teams
always churn on to the next guy, right the Packers say, well,
(28:24):
we draft Jordan Love like we really like the guy. Yeah,
we can let Aaron Rodgers go. In the NBA, you
can't do that because if you let a star go,
there's not enough of them. There's not enough good players.
There's not enough players coming up in the pipeline to say,
if we lose Jalen Brown, hey, the couple of guys
we have here that we got in the draft the
last couple of years or figuring it out. No, the draft,
sometimes players are four or five years away from just
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being good role players. So that scares teams. Players have
the have the hammer way more in the NBA than
any other sport. Because what the Celtics did is look
at this and go, Okay, is Jalen Brown a great,
great player? No? But and there was a lot in
the playoffs last year where Jalen Brown did not give
the Celtics enough and he was a guy that's getting
a lot of the blame. And here he is three
(29:06):
hundred million dollars and he's got the biggest contract in
NBA history because the Celtics said, well, we did this
to get better, and they got scared. Can we replace
Jalen Brown? We can't. We can't, we can't and expect
to win. So yeah, let's sign him because we're scared
of what the reality is if we don't have him. Meanwhile,
is he worth the money, No, he's not. But it's
too scary of a reality without him because suddenly all
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these moves are making we're not gonna win because they're
not going to replace what he does. So that's a
big thing with the NBA has all the stars over everybody.
That's why these salaries are getting bigger and bigger and bigger,
and stars here are making sixty nine million dollars in
the final year and NFL stars are still making fifty
million in the final year. They have that big time leverage. Man,
I wish I was an NBA star.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
Yeah, well, no question about it. Wish I wish I
was a little bit taller. I wish I was a baller.
I also wish that the synapses were firing. I was
the name I was searching for was Marcus Smart in
my head, who's no longer on that squad. You've shuffled
up a couple of your core guys, your key veterans,
in Williams and Smart, and then you paid Jalen Brown
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three hundred million dollars.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
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Speaker 3 (30:37):
Seven years, seven years, seven years. I'd take the all
the time, seven years, seven year itch for this one.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Huh yeah, yeah, yeah. Sometimes hamburgers can be bad for you.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Okay, all right, that's what you call it tease.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Sometimes hamburgers can be bad for you. I knew it.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
You dreamed that hamburger was eating me.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
A great dream that would be like I could feel
like I could just go and start eating the hamburger.
I'm fighting back. Oh, like when Homer takes the bite
out of the chocolate dog and he thrown in when
he is in zilend of chocolate, the dog runs bid
he thinks a bite at it.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
It's a reversal.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
We are looking at a four game suspension for Jim Harbaugh,
University of Michigan head coach. He is negotiating with the
NCAA because he did not tell the truth about an
investigation into bad recruiting practices during the COVID shutdown. So
we're going back like three years for this. Remember we've
(31:38):
heard a little bit about this story over the course
of the past few months that the nca came to town
a Harbaugh a couple potential recruiting violations. He is looking
at a four game suspension because he did not tell
the truth or was a forthcoming with the NCAA and
about a potential recruiting violation. Now, what is this over.
This is over the much publicized Hamburger gate, where Harball
(32:01):
allegedly bought players potential recruits Hamburgers at a local restaurant
in ann Arbor, which turned out to be a very
minor recruiting violation. But the cover up always worse than
the crime because he lied. This is why he's looking
at a four game suspension. So Alex tight Shirt. Sometimes
hamburgers are bad for you, and they're bad for Jim Harball.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
Sounds about right, actually really, OK?
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Yeah, all right, we'll think.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
About this way. Jay. Is there ever such thing as
too much Ryan? I think this is the case.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
Look, and as a guy who we're gonna have Pete
Futec on next hour, and there's so much going on,
and the next generation of Mike Carman on his soapbox
yelling fire them all in Evanston look little things, and you.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Know that's kind of innocuous. All right, that's not a
big deal.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
No, No, there's a snowball, and where there's a little bit
of smoke, there may be a giant fire behind it.
And so for Jim Harbaugh, the fact that we're negotiating,
when the hell did the NCAA at least admit to negotiating,
Like we're all reasonable grown ups and we would recognize
that behind the scenes there's gonna be a lot of
(33:13):
cajoling and a lot of back and forth of all right,
what do we really do here? How significant is this?
You gotta pay a penalty? We've got a show that
we're still tough. I know those conversations been going and
we've watched it with all of these these different infractions
through the year. We saw that canned joke show that
came out on a Friday Dump a couple of weeks
ago with Tennessee. You got two hundred violations. Nah, eight
(33:35):
million dollars, no bowl band. Guess what, we'll strip some
wins that you had. Nobody really cares. So it's not
gonna matter. We're not taking back any of the money
from the Orange Bowl or anything else you did. So
it's just an eight million dollar fine and a couple
of scholarships because you were so forthcoming. But you get
to negotiate a four game suspension.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
What a clown show.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
Well, but it's it's over Hamburgers, man, I mean it's Hamburger.
You say Hamburgers, I say Burgers.
Speaker 4 (34:04):
I say there's probably more to that story than just Hamburger.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
This is over Hamburgers.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
But that's what they want you to believe it's just
over hamburgers.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
It's a hot dog and a cony dog, And yeah
it was. There were some fries involved. There may have
been some cheese. Look, we got to really get to
the bottom of this. Okay, it's not just that.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
Well, but it's the principle of the thing if it's
still quote illegal, And that's where we get into all
the fights and the bill that they're trying to pass
that went up saying we've got to work for the
integrity the sanity of college sports, all of this nonsense
that we've had for so long. This is still technically
(34:45):
against the rules as they stand. You can laugh about it.
I mean, look, sure, Look Trussel lost his job because
some kids traded some crap they didn't want for tattoo toos.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Yeah, I think about that.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
How dare you you gave me this jacket. It's my jacket,
right all right? I want other stuff. I want to
trade it for other goods and services. No, you are
stuck with that jacket forever.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
I think four games for four Hamburgers is probably a
pretty even trade. I would say I think four games
against four also ran teams that Michigan is gonna win
by fifty.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
First he gets a more vacation.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
I think it's pretty even for four hamburgers. What it is,
That's what it wasn't you know, briefcases full of money.
It's hamburgers, hamburgers. I love more in this story coming
up next hour as well, but the biggest story of
the day in the NFL coming up next right here,
Jason and Mike Fox.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
I knew the burgers were bad.
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