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into the night that was for le Otel MESSI. Right now,
Wrexham in the Snapdragon Cup part of their tour. They're
there to be on national TV playing in the United
States over the course of the summer, are playing Manchester United.
Right now, Manchester United is down up Man after a
red card in the forty seventh minute and Wrexham leads
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Manchester United in the sixty seventh minute, two to one.
This game is being played like it's a semifinal of
the World Cup, with the physicality and fouls and yellows
and reds. It's like in Rocky four when when the
when the fight starts with with Apollo and Drago and
there everybody's it's all fun in games. Hey, look Rexham
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is here. This is great. And they're singing. They're they're
they're singing living in America. And Pollow comes down to
the ring and Drago comes up to the ring. It's like, ah, look,
it's great. It's oh, it's an exhibition. It's an exhibition.
And then suddenly it changes and it's like, oh, this
ain't no exhibition anymore. It was closed to be an exhibition.
You don't stop this fight, no matter what, damn doow,
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no matter what. That's what this has turned into. This
has turned into Apollo and Dragon.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
No.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
It's funny because we talked about it a little bit yesterday.
Speaker 5 (02:01):
I mean, I saw one of the most physical matches
I've ever watched in the Women's World Cup where he
had I think it was twenty six fouls. I mean
it was ridiculous, and probably another twenty they could have
called right. And in this one, I mean you got
a lot of jersey clutching, a lot of elbows flying,
high ball rolling towards the end lines like a here's
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the extra show. I'll take the fall here because I
mean you're two yards from the end line.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
It's great. They just showed a corner that Wrexham had
and what are the players of rex of The keeper
for Man United ran up to try to intercept the balls.
It was it was It was a nicely dropped in
the middle and one of the Wrexham players from behind
you can see him running with his elbow out, sliding
into the back of the keeper. This is insane. This
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is absolutely insane. Oh and Wrexham has scored again, dredds
them up three to one. Now everybody on Man You
is getting fired. They're all getting fired. But this is
this is one of those all the right moves you
ride back with the cheerleaders that read it is and
this is not even Paul Mollan Olie Palmer. This is
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like Wrexham's B team that's out there scoring right now.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
We may need.
Speaker 5 (03:20):
Them to sell the team, telling the TMJ looking up
his Twitter right now, Yeah, nothing yet nothing.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
You don't want to really step to him on this one.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
He gets pretty angry.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Yeah he does. He does when you say it.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
Was good cheer for a while and then no.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Because everybody sees the check mark things. Oh Glazer sees
all the followers he has. He goes, yeah, this is
the owner of Manchester United.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
But people were threatening violence.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
I'll tell you it's choke one three to one. Dolby
just scores. Again. This is Wrexham. This is like their
their third and fourth best forwards because because I'm a
Wrexam nerd, you know, because Paul Mullen got hurt early
in the game and he's out. Ali Palmer's their other
big goal scorer. He's out of the game. But Aaron
Hayden scored and least scored. And now, I mean, this
is this is just crazy. You're talking about a fifth
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level team and yes, is this Manchester United playing with
all of their best players? No, but this is still
Manchester United. This is till this is this is like
you know what, Frostburg that was very funny. I'm gonna
give you that one because that was a funny one.
That was funny, But really it's it's it's watching this
is it's nothing but embarrassment for Manchester United. I mean
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to look because if they wind up losing this game,
and certainly they're down two with twenty minutes left to
go and they're playing with ten, I mean it there.
I'm surprised honestly they agreed to this because there's you
know now that they're seeing how this is gonna look
and how embarrassing it's gonna be. There's no win for
them with this, right if they be paid, No, they
get paid, but I mean your Manchester I think you
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pretty much find a way to make money. But like
all you can do is and as expect, right, because
it's if you saw this, Okay, it's gonna be fun
rex I'm playing Manchester United. But in the end, look,
man you is how many levels above they're gonna win
this game pretty easy, and and all they do is okay,
you do what you're supposed to do. But you lose
and suddenly it's oh wow, look at what happened. How
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did you lose to Wrexham fifth level team? I mean
that there's there's no win here.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
Well otherwise otherwise you you just shrug and say it's
a wwe work because Wrexham winning is good for the sport.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
It's good for.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
Sport, but for the overall narrative of the sport, of
the little guy, the little town, all of that. It's
good not only for their show, but for the sport
as a whole. Like where you're trying to say, hey,
you can have a chance. Your squad from in certain
town here, whatever the country is, can have a chance
against Goliath and so you know, you get something out
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of that. I'm not saying it. You know it's in
work because they're beating the hell out of each other,
but to take it to the positive that even at
a loss, it's good for the promotion of the sport overall. See,
I'm going big picture here. Even though you know everybody's
gonna be mad. I mean they're gonna be burning them
down on the message boards and in those chat rooms.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Buddy, I'm telling you, buddy, you're burning up the message
board and chat rooms that that's starting to get outdated.
You've been we've been talking about it for too long.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
Well, Draft Day was on earlier. It's it's new to
somebody else.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
But but this is part of why we talked about
with with everything going on right now why soccer is
going to be the fourth major sport in the United
States in the next five years. And it probably is
the fourth sport right now, but the but the level
of popularity compared to where the NBA, NFL, and MLB
are at, it's a lot lower. Right We're talking about
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much bigger television deals and attendance and all kinds of things.
Not that the MLS isn't doing well. It is, it's
doing phenomenal, but there's a difference between saying, hey, we're
we're one of the top four, but the top three
teams are ten miles ahead of us. In the next
five years, soccer is going to be right up there
with Major League Baseball and the NBA because it's just
it's it's hit that time in this country. And a
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lot of it has to do with Hey, Messi is here. Look,
we're gonna talk about him in a couple of minutes,
and what he did tonight in his next MLS game
for Inner Miami. But it's things like the popularity of
shows like Welcome to Wrexham that everybody is watching and
ted Lasso, which is the biggest comedy on TV the
past four years all have soccer as a backdrop or
part of the documentary and it's just it's that time
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for soccer we've been waiting for. We've been people have
been saying that since the nineteen eighties. Oh, the air
of soccer is no. The air of soccer is here
now right. It's been pushing for the last few years.
You had Beckham come over that opened the door. You
had Landon Donovan's goal against Algeria in twenty eleven, and
now you have Messi here. At the same time, we
have embraced ted Lasso, We've embraced Welcome to Wrexham. We're
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embracing the women's national team who have been the big
superstars for the past ten years carrying the torch. Now
the men are getting really good, whether or not Great
Burholter actually ever is the coach of the team or not.
Maybe they're just threatening that Burholter is gonna come in
and that's getting the men to play very well. Hey,
we don't want we don't want it.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
We don't get Bolt a good strategy, cut him a check.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
But but we're in that point now where this is now,
it's finally here. You've been waiting for it's it's hard
to recognize, but it's now arrived and you you look
at where the MLS is and with the traveling road
show that's going to be Leonel Messi. I mean, already,
what did we find out today? Three hundred and fifty
million dollars in jerseys have been sold.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
Yeah, I mean for three ys, averaging about one hundred
and fifty per I mean.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Already in a week. This is what Messi is brought
to the United States. People buying his inner Miami jersey
despite the fact that it's got a collar on it,
and I can't stand the jerseys with collars. I think
it looks pretty classy, looks like you look like a
guy who wore a polo shirt to play sports. And
then I'm sorry, okay, that's like one steps.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
Like wearing a bowling shirt.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
No shirt, it's not it's like it's it is no, No,
it's like the kid who wears jeans to his little game.
I can't really take you seriously, man, you're wearing jeans.
Come on, man, I got you gotta wear.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
Maybe that's where he's comfortable. No, maybe he doesn't like
gray sweatpants.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
I'm comfortable with my jeans. I like to wear my wranglers,
and when I go play, it's.
Speaker 6 (09:13):
Not a button down Jason's just a collar.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Yeah, but but it doesn't look right. It doesn't look sportsy.
It looks like I'm going just fine. No, it looks
like I'm going to a barbecue on a Saturdays.
Speaker 6 (09:23):
When you were on TV, you were wearing a suit
to talk sports. What are we doing?
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Hey? You think I wasn't the one fighting? Why are
we wearing suits?
Speaker 5 (09:29):
You were?
Speaker 1 (09:29):
I was the first guy, all right, I respect, I
was trying to fight, not to wear ties.
Speaker 5 (09:33):
No, I did, guy, I did long long ago. Absolutely
the good Fight Radio. But let me let me bring
in something ty shirt and Frostburg and I were talking
about here in the studio watching these guys beat the
hell out of each other in this match, clutching and
grabbling and grabbing along the sideline. But the idea that
the evolution here and we joked about it yesterday on air.
(09:55):
Right the Lebron James and Joannison ten and Compo response
to the Imbape contract. Right that's being offered three hundred
plus million to buy him out, and then maybe another
seven hundred plus in terms of salary and Lebron doing
his Forrest Gump meme that he threw up and Yanna saying, hey,
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just make sure it comes to this account kind of
look like him, right, and Embape responded, he thought that
was funny.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Part of it.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
It becomes the next iteration, and we could tie this
to our overarching NFL story of the last week of
running backs, their woes, their zoom call, their salaries and
all of that. Is maybe all this soccer stuff starts
to open it up to where athletes who used to
play football maybe they start thinking about a different path.
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Maybe it's not just basketball, and that soccer becomes a
real viable option for a lot of our premier athletes
here in the States. Right, I mean it's something you know, Tyshert,
you brought it up, and it's something we were kind
of dancing around and then you just cut to the chase.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
Is just that, right?
Speaker 5 (11:04):
It's one thing demographically we're changing and embracing soccer. But
that's still you know, is the push, but also from
the the athletes rising up moving away from other sports.
Is gonna be the the other way this starts to
get more momentum.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Yeah, it's it's going to be Look, and it's gonna
be a little I'm not just saying suddenly it's here,
but you're gonna see on a night like tonight, right
where Justin Herbert, Jalen Brown, Jim Harbaugh, Saquon Barkley. These
are all really big stories, right the the never ending
saga of show. Hey Otani. Look, they're gonna push the
trade deadline just so we can get more conversation out
of No, but Otani can be traded till September first,
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Just what you're gonna make that chang With all of
that going on, what's the biggest story of the night.
It's Lionel Messi, right and his two goals tonight and
in two games right now he's got three goals and
an assist, and his traveling road and his his everyday
presence is going to turn soccer into an everyday story.
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The MLS season is long. It starts in February and
ends in October. Right, they take like an eight day
break and then they just start going in. Nothing wrong
with that, And he's going to be at the top
of every night headline. Why the MLS. This is Look,
this is part of the reality. Is the MLS is
not quite at the level of the high levels in Europe,
and no one pretends it is. It's getting a lot
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better and it's getting much more competitive, but it's not
quite at that level. Because a guy like Messi coming
over at thirty six, wats what he's gonna be able
to do every single night. He's not even in great
shape yet, and he's already got three goals in two games.
He's gonna score at least a goal, maybe two, in
every game he plays. Loonton came over when he was
thirty eight and he's scored in what in fifty four games,
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had like fifty eight goals or something insane like that.
I mean, this is a guy that came over when
he was thirty eight years old. Messi is still potentially
the best player in the world. And this and this
is where at I mean, you're gonna look at the
next few years with Messi at the top of every
highlight package when you're watching Sports Center or a Fox
Sports one, whatever it is. Hey, big night in Major
League Baseball tonight. You know, the Mets won their thirty
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fifth game in a row, or Aaron Rodgers has the
Jets at fourteen to er, but wait till we show
you what Messi did tonight. I mean, that's how it's
going to be, and that's going to continue to grow. It.
It's just everything is hitting at that moment right now.
It's all of the confluences that have been maybe thirty
years in the making, and it's hitting right now. And
for Messi to come over and be this guy. You're
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already seeing the money, You're already seeing the popularity. You're
seeing everything happen and unfold in front of your eyes.
Sometimes it's hard to see, how is that moment here.
Sometimes you can tell, hey, here's the rival of a
new star. You know, whether it's Chris Weber around the
back and dunking in his first game, Lebron James in
his first game, you could tell the guy's gonna be
great right away. Patrick Mahomes. Sometimes it takes a little
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bit to see, hey, we're at a watershed moment. We're
at a watershed moment right now for soccer, and in
the next five years it'll be the NFL the number
one sport in the country, and then it's gonna be NBA, MLS, MLB.
That's how it's gonna go. Right there, that second level
is gonna be those three teams as they continue to
move on for superiority. The only thing that's gonna that's
(14:14):
gonna take it back a bit, and I agree with this,
and I could see it is that, well, you're seeing
a level of soccer in the United States that's not
the best in the world. Right The reason why we
love the NFL is it's the best in the world.
Why it's hard to embrace spring leagues because we're seeing
a lower level of football. Same thing with the NBA.
We're seeing the best athletes in the world. Major League Baseball,
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we're seeing the best baseball players in the world. Are
we seeing the best soccer players? Not quite. We're seeing
some of them, but a lot of them play in
many different foreign locations and they play outside the United States.
So that's the one thing that's gonna that's gonna hurt
it a little bit, but not enough to make that
big of a difference. We're in that level and that
era right now.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Jason, you know what doesn't hurt, What doesn't hurt his
four hundred and eighty million followers on Instagram.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
That's good for.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Either doesn't hurt either does if every single one of
them watches the game, that'd be them. Then it'd be
bigger than football.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
That's four hundred and eighty million people that follow him.
Speaker 5 (15:10):
Let's go, let's bring it, bring uh some small percentage
and tysher you were doing a scouting report on Saquon Barkley.
He could become that player that Jose Josie al Datour
never began.
Speaker 6 (15:21):
Dude, without a doubt, it says you said, Mike, if
you just put decent money to this, if you imagine
Saquon Barkley as a striker a little less beefy but
has even more speed, Jason, we'd win the World Cup.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Wow, let's see. That's that's forward though. That's why I
want you to coach team instead of Greg Burholter.
Speaker 5 (15:38):
He's taking ahead like he's getting ready to go on
a recruiting thing. He's got a hamburger budget for days.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
How do you guys also feel about never eating meat
again and getting all of your pro team through plans?
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Just hear me out, you go, you guys coming?
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Wait wait wait, wait, wait.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
Come on, this bean patty looks like a burger.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
And wrack some jigs down team us in what Abella?
Speaker 1 (16:00):
No Portabella it tastes just like it, but play by
play Boy it looks like Team USA. They just have
no energy. Wow, they really are struggling just to even
get up and down. They look really, really.
Speaker 6 (16:12):
Flat and CMUSA has been fasting for seven days before
this game.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
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Speaker 1 (16:27):
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Tireraq dot Com Studios. You know, a really good friend
of mine, who've coached soccer with the last couple of years,
is at the Wrexham game and you just texted me.
He said, you'd have no ideas in San Diego's you
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have no idea how many upset matches United fans there
are here right now. It's insane. Everybody's just losing their
minds because they're they're gonna lose to Wrexham. Here there's
two minutes left to go and Wrexham's winning three to one.
Man United of course playing with ten men since the
forty seventh been of this game.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
I really I enjoy the fact that I'm at a
point in my life where while I'll be disappointed about
the White Sox. You know, they lose, maybe there's some
bad base running or waiting at a bad pitch out
of the zone, or any myriad, you know, number of
things that could go on. I generally about five minutes later,
I kind of shrug and move on, like they lost
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to the Cubs tonight. Am I gonna lose any now?
You're already twenty games back and you stink. So it's
just a question of how many guys are I'm that
roster come August first. The Northwestern thing upsets me greatly.
Losses on the field. I saw a lot of those
when I was a student and in the years following.
You know, if you get one every four years where
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you feel like you've got a chance to win before
you get relegated to another conference, and this may have
opened the door for all of that.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
That you you might have a chance. That's great.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
That's all we expected. And go on down the line
with every other team that I follow, the Bears, we
mock each other here on Fox Sports Radio, but I
don't live and die with it anymore. So I can't
relate to the forty something, fifty something guy that's still.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
Losing his mind over over mind.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Not everybody is forty if eighty. There's younger fans too
that are.
Speaker 5 (18:17):
But I'm saying, but I'm saying just in general, I
speak for where I'm at age wise, I've hit that
point where there's a lot of other stuff going on,
and I'd like to think that even in my twenties,
for the most part, I'd already moved.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
On from it.
Speaker 5 (18:29):
There didn't mean you got it, didn't have those moments
in game and in the immediate moments afterwards, but not
losing my mind over it. At some point you reconcile
that you know that you're gonna lose a game, and yes,
you'll be chronicled on Wrexham and you're probably gonna look
like an idiot when they do the crowd shots.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
Maybe that's why you have your anger starts to boil
it up.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
This is English Premier League, man, and you're gonna You're
gonna lose to a team that was made for TV,
team that played in the sixth level.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Of sunker t Blazer.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
Yeah, it's you know, it's an unfortunate event. Hey, maybe
party too much in San Diego.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Not too many fish tacos. That's what I had too
many fish and there it is. It's over there, it is,
it is over Phil Parkinson getting the handshakes out.
Speaker 5 (19:20):
No, no, no, no, you're missing the key point there. You
know how many minutes of extra time there was in.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
The second half? One I played anything extra? Get off
the damn pitch.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
How many goals man you scored? Mike one? One?
Speaker 1 (19:36):
It was it was chippy, it was physical. Uh. Wrexham's
best player left the game with an injury. It doesn't matter.
They still they beat Manchester United. And I'm telling you, man,
watching this on a high level telecast, you know, because
this is not just Hey, we're gonna put a Wrexham
game on and we're just gonna take the cameras that
are you know at the race course, which is like
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one camera that just pans back and forth. This is
like a high level World Cup level broadcast. Seeing Wrexham here,
it's like watching the Avengers. Man. Oh, Jordan Davies is
in the game now and Aaron Hayden look at the
big throwing and Paul Mullen and Ollie Palmer.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
Who's hawk guy?
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Really it's like what Rob Layton is hot?
Speaker 4 (20:15):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (20:15):
I love you.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
Jeremy Renner by the way, But yeah, it's it's that
next level kind of thing. Ready, we gotta make it
a spectacle. Sell, sell, sell, because what's the next level
of rights? Lower level soccer leagues? Right, not just Wrexham,
but all the way down. You're trying to figure out
where your next iteration of how you keep growing the
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sport is. We're fighting for rights all across where with
all the streaming services, networks, et cetera, where do you
go keep adding soccer leagues. It's more things to bet on,
more things to follow, and the more the prevalent they
are on the deuce or FS two or wherever we're at.
That that's the way it's gonna work.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Twitter and out about a Fresco. Mike gets swollen dome.
Rexham has beaten Manchester United. MANU was gonna fire every player.
They're gonna get rid of it. We lost, we lost
to Wrexham, we took We're just gonna We're just gonna
disband right now, and you're never gonna see us again.
You're never gonna see these guys.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
There's the next level stuff. All disbanded.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Oh god, we disbanded. I think Hannibal was the only
guy that touched the ball the entire second half of
Manchester United. That was it. Like, every time I looked up,
I'm like, he's got it, he's falling down, he's trying
to get a call. There's somebody else trying to get
a call. I mean, this is Look at Wrexham.
Speaker 5 (21:30):
Well, I mean we couldn't hear the broadcast obviously here
in the tyrac dot Com Fox Sports Radio studios. But
I mean, at one point Hannibal committed a huge fall
and if they didn't get a Hannibal lector reference in,
I mean they failed.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
And and DJ clearly Hannibal with the foul, with a
side of fava beans and a nice ky ante tj uh.
And really I was, you know, the whole sell the
team thing. I'm laughing, and all of a sudden, I
see this hashtag start to trend sell the Team. I'm like,
oh my god, is that really happening now. They were
chanting it at the A's game tonight for a second two.
(22:04):
They wanted Malcolm Glazer to sellment. We're getting, We're getting
Manu to be sold. This is insane, all right, So
we'll have updates from postgame Wrexham and Manchester United. If hey,
players at Manchester United may need if they get fired,
they needy places to stay in the San Diego area.
If you could open your house to a Manchester United
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player in need, I'm sure they will appreciate it. But
you want to talk about money, Let's have a conversation
about money, because two large stories broke today. The first
one early this morning, we find out that the highest
paid player in NBA history is now Jalen Brown, richest
deal in NBA history. Agreed to a five year, three
(22:48):
hundred and three million dollars super Max extension to stay
with the Boston Celtics. Want to been to an All
Star Game a couple of times, going to be with
the team now through twenty twenty eight, twenty twenty nine.
But there is no no trade clause with his contract. Okay,
so that's a big deal. We're going to talk about that.
And then Justin Herbert and the Charger said, okay, let's
(23:09):
see that deal and let's raise you a five year,
two hundred and sixty two million dollar extension for the
Chargers quarterback. So you've seen now the highest paid player
in NBA history. And now here's Justin Herbert getting a
five year, two hundred and sixty two million dollar deal,
(23:31):
and it is he is the latest quarterback to now
make over fifty million dollars a year. When we said
last night, we've said this for for a little while now,
the era of sports is coming that by twenty thirty
you're going to see an NFL quarterback and an NBA
star making one hundred million dollars a year. Already, Jalen
(23:51):
Brown at the end of his deal is going to
be making sixty nine million, right, So it's already in
twenty twenty nine, the end of his deal, he's going
to make in sixty nine million dollars that year. Okay,
sixty nine million at the end. Here we are in
twenty twenty three, and the top salaries for each play
for each NFL and NBA are right around fifty five
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million dollars a year, right, that's right around where the
players are. And in twenty sixteen, the top salary was
twenty five million in the NFL, twenty four million in
the NBA was Andrew Luck and Kobe Bryant. You have
seen them now more than double in the last seven years.
So now if you're talking about doubling seven years. It
may be before twenty thirty, but the way it's going,
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with more players coming in and resetting the market, we're
gonna get at least one player in each sport is
gonna be making one hundred million dollars a year. You
can book that. And it's just ironic that we talked
about it last night and now here we are the
two big contracts today, because I'll tell you what the
next contract's going to be. Joe Burrow and Burrow, you know,
was waiting to find out how Herbert would set the market.
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And honestly, Herbert's great, and Herbert's a great quarterback, and
the charges of the right thing they had to do it.
Burrow's a little bit too, a little bit more better
than Herbert is. He's been to a super Bowl, He's
a little bit more accomplished. He's a little bit better
as teams have gone far in the playoffs. He's got
to hit the sixty million a year mark. Forget about him,
oh to sixty two cents. No, he's got to hit
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the sixty million dollars a year mark, which I'll be
someone between sixty and sixty five million a year for
Joe Burrow. That's why he waited. This is where we
sit right now with Justin Herbert. Now it's time for
him to set the market even higher. He's going to
get NFL contracts into the sixties and that's going to
happen sometime the next few months.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
Yeah, I mean we're looking at the Burrow deal.
Speaker 5 (25:37):
Obviously everybody wants to try to speculate where how much
north of Herbert's it gets to. But look, the cycle continues.
The next run of cash that comes in. We saw
the report of how much Green Bay made, so extrapolate
that out to your NFL franchises. Plus the money that
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wasn't sucked up by the legal fees that goes back
into their pockets. You know that Daniel Snyder had stolen
and you got more and more money coming in the
rights deals that that. We just keep seeing more more
streaming services and companies wanting a piece of the action.
And we keep joking about how we're gonna have NFL
games every day if it makes that pie that much bigger. Yeah,
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everybody's on board, even the NFLPA. Yeah, some guys will complain,
but they get half of every dollar that goes through.
So it's good for business. It keeps the salary cap rising. Right,
we talk about it in terms of the franchise tags.
Just going for the running back position, you're now talking,
you know, three to four million dollar difference from this year,
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and that's five guys right there, right, So you know
there's twenty million bucks or thereabouts before you even start
getting into the rest of your your rosters and pay
raises and et cetera. So it is a the cash
cap continues to get fatter, and so the salaries for
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the top end guys will continue to rise. The quarterback position.
It really is amazing. Now, Jalen Brown's interesting, you know,
as a next man up kind of situation, because you know,
it leaves leaves people scratching their heads. They didn't win
with the squad they'd assembled. Marcus Smart's gone, Grant Williams
is gone. So what the next iteration of the Celtics are.
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But you know, whatever he got paid, you cannot like it.
But here's the here's the caps, and and everything is
constructed in the CBA. You're spending the money. So all
the arguments about Mahomes or anybody else, when it comes
down to these things, they don't matter it don't matter.
They're gonna spend money and at those key positions and
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next players up. And for the NFL, it's the most
fascinating to watch because we'll have more. We'll see who
the next affected position is. Right right now, it's the
running backs trying to figure out the landscape and the
way of the world before the next CBA. You know
who's who's the next Because Diggs got himself ninety seven
million over five years too, you know, don't want to
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bury that one because that's a pretty significant amount of money.
Your got Quinn Williams last week, and there's some big
contracts going around. We still have a couple of holdouts
even if Saquon got his deal, not just at the
running back position. But you know, the pie continues to
grow and players want to make sure they get their
their rightful piece. So yeah, a hundred million based on
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the math and the algorithm, five years maybe full seven.
Either way, it's coming and they're all going to look
at Himbape's deal as well, going well, look at he got.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
You know, it's funny you say that about running backs
because one solution that we haven't looked at, that's a
potential one too, How are running back's going to get paid? Right?
We'll get more on Barkley coming up in a bit
about it. You know, he signed his deal with the
Giants state, so he's gonna play this year, which is
the right move because it really had no other choice.
Is that you're looking at solutions for how a running
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back's going to get paid sometime before the next CBA expires,
which is in seven years. Right, you have a lot
of NFL teams saying, hey, we think running backs can
be replaceable and all and all of that is part
of the strategy that goes into why running backs aren't
paid that much right now. And the one thing that
we haven't talked about is that here's the thing. If
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you're a running back and you're really good, a team
is going to say we have to have a really
good running back to keep up with everybody else. Right now,
running backs position where teams, if you don't have a
great running back, you say, well, you know, we're not
losing anything. We got to have a great quarterback, we
got to have a great tight end, we got to
have a great secondary, whatever it is. But no one's
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saying we have to have a great running situation because
there's not many teams you have to keep up with
that are winning because of running backs. So yeah, running
back position that that teams can say, ah, we can
get by. You have another year or two and suddenly
you got ten or twelve running backs who are putting
up big numbers. Suddenly, then that changes things in two
or three years and it's wait a minute, we need
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a big running back. Where we just got knocked out
of the playoffs because Christian McCaffrey went nuts on us
and Brock Perdy was throwing lefty and we still lost.
Or boy, I don't care that Derek Henry was thirty.
He ran over us in a the divisional playoff round
and now the Titans are in the AFC Championship game,
or the Cults are there because Jonathan Taylor is doing this.
If enough players have big games, get you get now
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ten or twelve running backs that are big difference makers,
teams are gonna have to change and say we gotta
go get that guy in free agency because we're really
running from a deficit right now. The thing that hurts
is that a lot of teams are breaking up the
responsibilities they don't want to go in with one bel cow.
They want to say, well, we have a guy we
think is gonna get the carries, but he's gonna come out.
He's interchangeable with another guy. We have a different guy
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that's gonna be in on third down. We have another
running back that can catch passes and he's a better
pass blocker. So it's harder to put those numbers up.
But that's the one thing that if you're the true
three down running back, if you work on your craft
and you're a guy that doesn't have to come off
the field on third down, you catch balls out of
the backfield. If you do that and be that guy,
you're gonna have a big year and you're gonna get
paid in the short term by getting franchised, and then
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you're gonna help get paid in the long term because
other teams are gonna say, what we have at running
back isn't working. Are two or three guys that we've
signed that we thought we were the same with everybody
else in the NFL that's not working. We have fallen behind. Hey,
so and so is a free agent. Let's give Jonathan
Taylor a big contract. Now the Colts have in trouble
signing him let's give him fifteen million a year for
the next three years, and suddenly it's three years and
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forty five million dollars guaranteed, and suddenly you're seeing guys
getting paid. So that's another thing that might only be
a couple or three years away, but it requires a
lot of running backs to have big seasons.
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Adam Sandler. Big story today out of college football. It
involves Jim Harbaugh and hamburgers.
Speaker 4 (32:14):
Yeah it does.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Alex Tischer will tell you hamburgers are are good for you.
Speaker 5 (32:18):
They're not just a matter if it's a short term
or a long term gastronomic or in this case, I
mean punishment doth come.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Well for the first time, I can tell you I
agree these hamburgers are bad, and they turned out to
be bad for Jim Harbaugh. Hamburger Gate has come home
to roost. This story that's been around for the past
few months that Jim Harbaugh Michigan under investigation for violations
committed during the dead COVID era area. When you're not
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weren't allowed to recruit, Harbaugh took a couple of recruits
out on campus for Hamburgers, paid with his money, and
that turned out to be a violation. Now, it was
a low level violation. However, because Harball was less than
forthcoming about his involvement and what went on, this became
a bigger deal. Lying to the NCAA is never a
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good thing. So now, according to Yahoo, Harbaugh, the university
and the NCAA are negotiating a four game suspension for
him to start this season. Likely that's what it's going
to be. Now, Michigan doesn't play anybody really good the
first four games, so okay, and he's going to be
allowed to coach the team during the week. He just
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can't coach the team on the weekend. So it's going
to have to have an Assistant's gonna have to come
in and do it. All of this over Hamburgers. And
I'll be the first guy to tell you, you know.
And when someone says, hey, Hamburgers can hurt you, I'd say,
you know, what just asked, Jim Harball, hamburgers can be
deadly Well.
Speaker 5 (33:46):
I think you know you're burying the lead. I mean, look,
hamburg No, I mean it's burgers, but it's still in violation, right.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
You weren't supposed to be meeting.
Speaker 5 (33:57):
You weren't supposed to be doing these things during the
COVID period and at the time.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
But the Hamburgers are smoking gut. We got the receipts, wet.
Speaker 5 (34:05):
Well, we literally have the receipts. And then I mean,
did you get fries? Does that mean an extra you know,
half game or you know, an extra practice you can't attend.
But legit, I mean, because think about the penalties and
as those rules were in place during the COVID period,
whether you agreed with them or not, you know, business
to business, state to state, whatever, each had different rules
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and processes and whatever. But for Jim Harbaugh, like whenever
we start getting into anything where there's recruiting violations at all,
I always raised my eyebrow. I was like, is that
really it? That's what you're leading me to believe that's
the only thing that it's about. Because he was obstinate
and was less than forthcoming in talking about this situation
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because in the end, every time we get into one
of these and then I'm not talking about the Penn
States or the Northwest turns or whatever, there's always another
shoe that drops in terms of the recruiting process, whether
whether there were more Hamburgers to be had or some
other form of violation. But these are the rules and
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the NCAA trying to show that, hey, we still have
some clout.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
I like that.
Speaker 5 (35:17):
It's in a negotiation in the past, long ago, when
they thought they really had clout. It's like, here's your penalty.
Eat it now. It's hey, what's the thing that we
can get by? Like, Tennessee's pretty good right now? So
how about eight million and we take away some wins
that nobody's ever going to care about from the past. Okay, cool?
Speaker 4 (35:35):
In this case, how about four games.
Speaker 5 (35:38):
I mean, it's it looks like it's got teeth right
against nobody's everybody wins, right, because you'll.
Speaker 4 (35:45):
Have served this suspension. We could say, hey, we were
tough on.
Speaker 5 (35:49):
This violation, and you guys are gonna win by thirty
points every game anyway.
Speaker 4 (35:53):
So what's the.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Difference, Jason, Yeah, go ahead, Frostberg.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
The real question is which one of these four games
are you showing up the PAMs family's house with burgers.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
All four of them? Hey, guys, what do you I
got White Castle? What do you want? I got a cravecase.
Whatever you want.
Speaker 5 (36:07):
Yeah, that's what we need to do. You just need
to send some crave cases. That's a football Saturday. Hey,
we got a delivery.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
What is it?
Speaker 4 (36:15):
What is in the box? It's a frozen hamburger? You jerk.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
If I'm the NCA, I just say listen. I could
make the hamburger stick, nothing else. We did have nothing else.
The paper trail ran cold. I can make the hamburger
stick and take what you can get, all right. That's
that's how we're gonna go.
Speaker 4 (36:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (36:32):
I mean the moment you talk to Harball, you knew
he was gonna be a hard ass about it. So
I mean, yeah, I mean you got what you expected there.
I mean, that's a review where you just met expectation.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
These hamburgers are bad all over. Hamburgers coming out. We'll
have more on hamburgers and more in the biggest NFL
story of the day. This is Fox Sports Radio. These
Hamburgers are bad