July 28, 2023 • 29 mins
Jason Smith and Mike Harmon explain why Sean Payton is jealous that the Jets/Aaron Rodgers are getting all the off-season attention. The great Mets sell off has begun. Plus, the Progressive play of the night!
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We have big goings on in Major League Baseball. We
got some trade stuff to get to coming up in
about twenty minutes. But I may have to fight Sean
Payton micrmon, and if I have to, I think I'll
be okay with let's get it on. I may have
to fight Sean Payn.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
I probably owe somebody money. Do I owe the estate
of Judge Mills Lane seven dollars.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
No, I think you're allowed to say that. I thought,
I don't just don't.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Yeah, you know, no, I know the other guy.
Speaker 5 (01:14):
Don't do it.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
We'll come creeping down through the ducts into the air
ducks and come helicoptering into the studio.
Speaker 5 (01:21):
I can't save you.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
Guys. If you're a lawyer with a lawyer next to him,
then I know.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
I used to love I used to have a good
Mills Lane impression. He bit him, so I stopped to
fight like I used to like my Mills Lane.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
No, I want to watch some of a celebrity death match.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Let's go. But yeah, I'm gonna have to fight Sean
Payton because the Broncos head coach had I don't know
if he still thinks he's in the media or not,
but he had a wow moment that came to light
today that just makes him look ridiculously awful. He did
an interview in which he talked about what's going on
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with the Broncos right now, and to kind of give
you the highlight light of what he said. He talked
about how this year the team is one hundred and
eighty degrees. They're doing everything that the team didn't do
last year, blaming everything that went on on Nathaniel Hackett,
which yeah, okay, I think everybody knows that Daniel Hackett
was a bad head coach. But he lit up the
entire organization. He went from the PR departments all the
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way up to the top, saying we're doing things much
differently than we did last year. And then he went
on to talk about Nathaniel Hackett, who is now the
Jets offensive coordinator, and he said, as far as the
Jets go with Aaron Rodgers, and I'm looking at teams
to try to win the offseason like the Jets did,
and now they're doing hard knocks. I've seen it. I've
seen how bad things can get all of a sudden.
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It's like he thinks I'm still on television and I
have to say something really hot.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
Take nonsense.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Let's go. I guarantee you right now, he's going, what
did I do? Because he looks ridiculous and he looks
like a bully. All right. I mean, I don't know
what going through your head when you figure here's what
I want to do. I want to rip the last
group who was running the team here and by proxy
ripped the people that hired them, because it was only
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a year ago, and I want to criticize some of
the people that are still in the building. And oh,
by the way, unprompted, it's not like he's been going
back and forth and Robert Sala have been trading shots
back and forth with each other over the course of
the off season. No, now I want to go in
on the Jets. Oh, I've seen teams do hard and
the Jets were made to do hard knocks. Okay, the
Jets didn't pick to do hard knocks. And what are
you upset about? Because my first thought is Mike, he's jealous.
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He's jealous that the Jets and Aaron Rodgers are getting
all of the storyline in the offseason and he's not
getting enough attention with Hey, I'm here trying to remake
Russell Wilson. That was one of the biggest stories in
the game last year, and now I'm not getting this attention.
Why Why is Aaron Rodgers and the Jets getting all
the attention Because that's Aaron bleeping' Rodgers. Man. Sorry, but
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it's Aaron Rodgers. And he sounds jealous that they're not
talking about him. So I want to say this now
because I want you to start paying attention to me.
I'm back, everybody, I'm back as a head coach. He
looks ridiculous, and that jealousy, it's almost like he's green
like the new Jets legacy jerseys, that green eyed monster
that you got there. Going on, Sean Paate, you may
he'll beware to throwback Jets at talking about this. Why
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are you not talking about me? Where the guy just
sounds jealous.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Well, it's funny because he was a big deal and
when he got hired, I mean that was all we
talked about for a while.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Right.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
He comes back refreshed after a year.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
In television, all of those things, and he has the
reclamation project of Russell Wilson. Not to mention the chaos
that ensued there in Denver. You lost Tim Patrick, you
lost Davonte Williams, two of your top offensive weapons. So
that has something to do with it. The rest of
the administrative stuff that was well chronicled, right that you
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had to bring in someone to help you manage getting
plays in on time so you weren't running to zero
on the play clock time and time again. The disaster
that was the opener against Seattle. All of that's well documented,
and with Sean Payton along the way, there were those
early things at camp when they hit mini camps and
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post draft and all of that talking about all right,
new world order and we saw all right, disrupt and
undo all of the extra offices and excess that people
around Russell Wilson had so to remake that and change culture.
Oh that was well documented. Hell, even the last couple
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of days there was the article out of Denver about
how excited everybody was that they were just getting down
to business. Evidently that wasn't enough for Sean Payton. He
wanted the national media to get back in. And you
know the Denver report even was talking about the jets
and how they were taking all the air in the
room so good you can go work under cover of night.
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People worried about what the next iteration of the Chiefs
is going to be. People worried about Justin Herbert and
his contract and what the Chargers are going to be.
The Raiders are the Raiders, so have your fun with that.
So you know, work in relative anonymity and get ready
for the season. And he just torched that in doing
this and decided to go after Hackett, So I want
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to know what was left behind other than bad game
tape that Sean Payton really felt it necessary to go
after Hacket on that level, right, because this is something
unheard of. Normally you have skirmishes in game. We've had coaches,
I'm not gonna shake your hand, you're a jerk, and
all that kind of stuff, a little sniping game week,
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but generally just off season and here we are.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Yeah, no it Normally it doesn't go quite that. You
don't go quite that.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Hard in on a guy that this early into a
new campaign, you know.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
And you bring up a really interesting point because this
is my other big takeaway from this hole Sean Payton rant,
which is embarrassing for him. If this was a case
of hey, we're gonna be good, and I'm here and
I'm feeling great about this team, coaches don't say anything.
They don't say that we're gonna be good. They don't
want to draw attention to themselves. They want to work,
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as you said, work in anonymity, and they want to
get ready for the season. The season begins and the
Broncos start five and one, or here's Russell Wilson, he's
playing great and suddenly the attention comes to you and
then okay, yeah, now now it's time. But we worked
hard and we got things going. That's usually what you get.
But the fact that he has stepped out basically at
the beginning of training camp, I wonder how good things
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are actually going in Denver with Russell Wilson going forward,
because it's almost it's almost like, I want to get
out in front of this. I've changed the culture, We've
had to change him. Do things so completely different than
it was. It was really backwards. Is he setting us
up for the fact that, hey, this might not be
what I think it's gonna be. We're not gonna be
very good. Russell Wilson's not the guy I can't fix
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Russell Wilson, and he's going to be the same guy
who was the ego. Because that's what I take away
from this, because this is a conversation. This is something
you normally say when you're trying to keep your job,
when it gets like year three and you get a
press conference where maybe you know you're losing, and you're
you know, you're four and seven and and and the
the you know, the the vultures are circling and you
get asked a question and the coach says, well, you know,
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we never talked about this, but there's a lot of
stuff we had to change when we came in. The
culture was way worse than we thought it was. There
was we were, it wasn't in as good as shape
as we thought. We did a lot of things that
we didn't talk about to try to change things, so
that pushed our timeline a little bit. So, yeah, I
wanted to be better early, but we still feel like
we're on on target and everything that's normally what and
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that's what he's doing now before he's even coached a
game with the Broncos. Oh, we had to make all
these changes. All these things are different idea. This was
being run this way and this is being run this way.
What the hell are you doing? Man? All I feel
like if I'm a Bronco fan, orf I'm a football fan,
I'm saying, boy, the Broncos might stink again, and Russell
Wilson may be done because why is why is he
going out of his way to light up the franchise
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and light up another team again? Unprompted, That's my second
big takeaway from Sean Payton and his ridiculous. I want
to make sure people know that we change stuff and
you jets, I'm just jealous and everything you got going
on with Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Well, I think part of it it does lend to
the all right temper your expectations. Hey guess what, coach,
we didn't have any right you'll be better than last year?
Speaker 4 (09:26):
What does that mean?
Speaker 3 (09:28):
When you're coming from where they were and the levels
of ineptitude that you had. Any step forward is a
huge one, so take credit. But part of it is
setting up. Look, they were such a disaster. I'm a wizard,
so I'm gonna turn this around. And also kind of
putting Russell Wilson unnoticed that if it doesn't go bad,
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I'm cutting you loose.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
I'm going jess up here. When it went bad, you
cut those guys loose.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
And that's kind of what we're looking at here is
setting himself up because if it works, I'm the genius.
Wasn't Russ. It was all the coaching, So any credit
I get. But if it's bad, watch it. It'll be
all on Russ as quickly as possible. And for Sean Payton,
it's an interesting tact to take in Denver because he'd
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made a lot of changes. Right, they're not doing live
radio spots and shows and the media access that you
used to have. Isn't there a lot of the other
things that you would normally do in the process of
getting ready for training camp. He squashed along the way,
player availabilities and things of that nature. So it's definitely
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taken a different process. But also you'd think when you're
gonna come out all Vince McMahon or Connor McGregor walk
like this, that you were coming off multiple super Bowls.
Hell of a coach. We've seen what he's done with quarterbacks.
He's won with some guys that nobody thought he could
win with, but he wanted did a lot of his
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winning with a guy who's a Hall of Fame in
one of the best quarterbacks and most accurate quarterbacks. You
want to do the system quarterback thing. You could do
that if you want to. But Drew Brees was fantastic.
They won one super Bowl. It's hard to win a
Super Bowl. I get that, but he's not coming off
some level of dominance to where you come in and
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you just start trashing everybody else on your way back
into the game. I mean that's a lot of hot
takery that he learned with our colleagues and our extended
family here at Fox.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
I would guess, yeah, I mean, do I really blow
this up?
Speaker 1 (11:33):
I mean, just think about that for a second. When's
the leg just when's the last time you heard a
current NFL head coach get a job? And before the
game begins, before the season begins, he says the coach
who was here last year, Hey, we're doing things one
hundred and eighty degrees different from where they were. Not
only that, other positions in the organization need to be
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doing it differently. And oh, by the way, the new
team he went to, they're going to struggle, right, they
tried to win the off season. They're doing hard knocks.
I've seen how that ends. Tell me a.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Coach it's done that. Oh I know someone who has
I mean tell you well, I mean he didn't do
it to another team.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
But you might remember me from such takes as today earlier.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Dionne Sanders walking into that meeting room in Colorado.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Oh, he was just wanting to cut your cut.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
You're done, I'm.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
But nobody has done that. And take on other coaches
because you just don't do it now. I'm not saying
he shouldn't say it because he wanted to say this obviously,
but you you got to deal with the ramifications of this.
You can't have freedom of responsibility from this. You want
to say that, Hey, guess what, man, people are gonna say,
what the hell is wrong with you? You really want it?
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You really don't. I'm I'm hoping that there's some kind
of apology to Robert Sala, there's some kind of whatever
it is saying, hey, dude, that's not what I meant.
Things are tough here, whatever, or there's I'm kind of hey,
I think it was a little too harsh Broncos Country.
Let's ride a little too harsh what I said yesterday.
I want to make sure that people understand or I
was taken out a context or some kinds of crazy
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ass thing that's gonna make him look better, because he
just looks terrible in this.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
He looks like reallyway completely had at Hackett. He could say, hey, Sala,
you just happened to be the top guy.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
Really just going after.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
Him Jason at the end of the day, was he
is he wrong?
Speaker 1 (13:26):
No, he's not. But does he need to say I
think everybody knows like it's it's like, oh, I want
to be the first one to say, everybody knows how bad.
Everybody knew it was bad. Week one last year and
Hackett settling for a sixty three yard field goal. Yes,
that's fifty, Simpsons me, everybody knows.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Stop, he's already he already took his job, all right.
So let's see, let's do schedule watching Week one against
the Raiders at home.
Speaker 5 (13:51):
Yeah, it's unfortunately a win, Mike.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Week two at home against Sam Howell, and you're soon
to be renamed commanders.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
Unfortunately, there'll be two or zero.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
Week three on the road at Miami.
Speaker 5 (14:04):
Two and one.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Week four on the road, bears, how dare you?
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Io's gonna help you there? Frothbert just came in and
just came over the top row. Oh that's three and one,
that's three? What now?
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Marking with this guy a decade? Let's just went Payton
on me. Let's put him at two and two.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
I don't know. You're going on the road, min that's fine.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
And then week five the Jets visit Denver.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Are we going to the hell that's a big hell,
because the Jets are gonna hang fifty. We'll see you
week five. Sean Payton seventy three days. I'm putting on
my com crossing it off tonight like Billy Madison and
Steve Bishemi seventy two, seventy one, seventy two days till
week five. We'll see you then. We have two opening days. Now,
we have opening day Week one and we have Week
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five against the Broncos. You want to bring it, you
don't want Jets smoke. Just stick with your smoke. Worry
about the AFC West, worry about what's going on in Veguas,
worry about Justin Herbert and his big contract, worry about
my worry about all that. You don't want the Jets
smoke man, stay with that smoke that you don't want.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Our There's a giant skirmish during warm ups at midfield
and no players are involved. It's the coaching steps and
beat the hell out of each other.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
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Speaker 1 (15:22):
The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon.
You know I actually I'm gonna tell you true starman.
Wait for you to play Pet Shot Boys night, Alex Heicher,
So I can tell you this, Hi, Jason. I had
a friend of mine today who listens to the show
Oh Hid for a long time, and he said to me,
do you only play Pet Shop Boys and Tears for Fears?
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Is that all you play?
Speaker 5 (15:44):
I mean, I'm thinking about doing a night like that.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Yeah, boy, you know, at least once you give me
what have I done to deserve this? That's my favorite
Pet Shot Boys?
Speaker 4 (15:54):
So yes, yes, yeah, give one of those.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Come on next week?
Speaker 4 (15:57):
Concerts in town? Are we going?
Speaker 5 (15:59):
Wait, there's your fears?
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Yeah, it's done. Ty Shirt's going to go to Tears
for Fear. It's gonna be disappointed and say I'm never
playing that song again. So that's gonna go. All right.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Well, you know, on this day in nineteen eighty four,
Ride the Lightning was released, So there you go.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Oh man, we are nearly on the forty year anniversary
of Ride the I just remember buying it. I remember
buying that. For the first I went to see a
play with my mom in New York City, and I
forget what play went to see. And then after she said,
do you want to go shopping in Times Square? And
I said yes, and I bought Ride the Lightning. I bought,
I bought the I bought the uh. The cassette of
Ride the Lightning was like nineteen dollars. So I was
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like so excited. I explained to them. I got to
explained a generation why what cassette is? And I was
so excited to get I'm like, yes, everybody, all my
friends are talking about Metallica, how good they are here,
And she bought me Metallica cassette. I was so excited.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Master of the house, Yeah that might have been what
you saw.
Speaker 5 (16:51):
Did you tell your mom don't worry, we'll have them
back by eight Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
I was time traveling at the point when I said
I want to buy Metallica, she said sure, I could
have anything. I could have said, I want to buy
Jumping Knucklehead Billy's new album. Yeah, whatever you want. Jok.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Sure has there ever been a musical artist actually named
Jumping Knucklehead Billy?
Speaker 4 (17:10):
And if not, why no?
Speaker 5 (17:13):
Just kidding?
Speaker 1 (17:14):
You got to do Jumping Knucklehead Billy album. Oh it's
so good. It's such a good one. But I remember
I remember buying late, like eleven o'clock at night. I'm
like I'm in a store at eleven o'clock at night
and I'm fourteen. It's square man, cool man. This is
really cool. I'm coming on. Other people are buying stuff
and I'm buying metallica. It was great.
Speaker 5 (17:31):
Did you say the naked cowboy or.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
I didn't know he was. That was too that's too
early for the naked cowboy.
Speaker 5 (17:36):
Yeah, he was probably his dad back then.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
No, no, no, the big guy in the handed it down. No, no, no, no,
just that gig in the early eighties was a guy
that would dress up as a famous this different Yankee
Hall of Famer, and you would take pictures with him.
He had a bat and he had a helmet. He
would he would have the different jersey. Always got Roger Morris.
Today he's got Mickey mailed. That was like the guy
to take pictures with.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
No, that's a good move, having the baddest part of
the outfit, because if you tried to stiff them on
the tip for taking the picture.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
He had a bat in his hand. Was Dirty Elmo
around back then.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
About a couple No, it was too early for Dirty Almo.
Too early. Tomo Cooks, You're like a whole You're like
a whole decade behind all.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
That's fifteen Batman.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Yeah, Raggedy spider Man.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
I can't better Square Man. How many Batmen have you buried?
I've buried fourteen Batman with a little pointy years.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
So he's talking about before times Square was cleaned up too,
So before.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
The trade deadline. We are at a great time right
now because we're already seeing trades come down, meaning that
trade dead sea trade deadline season has actually begun already.
Sometimes we don't see anything until a day or two before,
and then it's really hard to make big trades happen
because it's hard to put big trades together for star
players in a short amount of time. But now what
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we've seen the last twenty four hours, trade season's open, right.
The Dodgers get keyk Hernandez. It was a nice deal.
Then they went and stole on Ed Rosario for Noah Sindigard,
which is a really good deal.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
Sweet victory.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Potentially they're getting an even bigger player which's gonna get
to coming up in a couple of minutes last night,
the Angels went and got Lucas Gilito, a big part
of that trade, gave a couple of big prospects. Carlos
Santana got traded today, and the Mets tonight trade David
Robertson to the Marlins. The Mets deciding finally, yes, we
are putting an endo our season as contenders. It is
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time to move on and move on into next year.
So the great Mets selloff has began. And I will
tell you this before we get to the big Dodger story.
I will tell you this Verlander and Schurzer will follow.
I'm more confident about Verlander than I am Surezer because
Verlander has been a little bit better lately and his
velocity is back. He's up, back up, throwing ninety eight again.
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And I read where a lot of scouts think, if
you them on a new team in the thick of
a Pennant race, he'll even throw harder and it will
be you know that Excitement'll get another couple miles an
hour on his fastball, and you can go get him.
So and we had John Paul Morosi on earlier tonight.
MLB Network insider said, yeah, hey, justin Verlander the Giants.
That's a definite possibility. Now things depend on how much
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money the Mets eat, depending on what prospects they're gonna
get back. But the great Mets sell off has begun. Verlander, Schurzer,
all the other older guys they have, Tommy fam Markkanna.
The Padres sell off is gonna start Soumes if the
Mets are starting, you know, the Padre's got to get
involved because they get a lot of guys too. It's
gonna be Snell, It's gonna be Hater. It could even
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be jan Soto. They're gonna make a move because they
spent a lot of money and things haven't gone well.
So now that the trade deadline season has begun and
now the phones are gonna start loosening up a bit,
you're gonna see the big names get dealt because now
teams have five six days to make a deal for
Verlander and figure out the money. If the Mets just
put Verlander on the on the market on Monday, the
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day before, I say, yes, we're done. We lost our
weekend series. We're moving on. How are you going to
put together trade for him? Right? The money he's due,
the rest of this year, the forty plus Millioni's do
next year? Can you really do that? I mean, it's
too tough to do. What kind of prospects will you get?
You need a few days to put something like this together.
And then mets at a great move by announcing that tonight, hey,
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where sellers call us? And now the Padres will get involved.
We're going to see a really, really big Major League
Baseball trade deadline boocket. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
The one thing that I think does potentially throw some
cold water on all of it and makes it all
retract there was shrinkage is the fact that you've got
so many teams that are quasi contenders right They're kind
of hanging around the back end of the wild card
race and with one good series can convince them themselves
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that they matter. We've got very few true bottom feeders
in terms of team results this year, my love in
White Sox being one of them. As you know, they
will now be pillaged, maybe by the Angels again, but
certainly the Dodgers will come knocking for what's left on
the carcass. But you go through and I think that
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might slow things up a little bit, just that hesitation
to where you're gonna need to really come over the
top with the package to overwhelm a would be you know,
trade partners. So I think there's a little curiosity there.
Now I have a question for you. With the Padres
and the Mets, do they have a side bet as
to which team exits the trade deadline with the least
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remaining salary that they entered the season with.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
So can I purge?
Speaker 3 (22:43):
You know?
Speaker 4 (22:44):
Do I only?
Speaker 3 (22:44):
I say, I've got sixty percent of my bloated payroll left,
but you only have fifty eight percent of yours that
you win. It's like, you know, like when we do
these idiotic mayor bets through teams in World Series and stuff.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
If we win, we'll give you a can of sardines
and you get us cheesecake. Hey, that sounds like a
great bed. That's awesome right there. Now, wait, now does
it does it matter if you just get the salary
off the books or do you have to trade the
whole salary? Like if the Mets trade Verlander but they
say we're paying his entire salary, why does that No.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
That doesn't count. Just get rid of the guy.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
Like it's about the money, all right, No, just his
physical presence who the hell cares. It's because they're only
being judged based on how much money they spent. And
then they didn't have that giant dollar amount. It was
just hey, there's Justin Verlander's great. No, it's Justin Verlander
and thirty six million dollars. That's why it's a bigger deal.
Come on, man, the two are not independent in this
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particular case.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Now, the trade, the next trade that could happen, and
this has been breaking around the league for most of
the day. The Dodgers and Cardinals have been having conversations
centered around Nolan Ronado, and this is a trade that
one should happen, right, the Cardinals are going nowhere to
the Cardinal Unless the Cardinals believe that, hey, we can
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just bounce back next year, that's a really tough thing
to do. You don't just go last to first by
saying we're bouncing back. You need to have big time changes.
You need to change the culture. There's a reason why
you're in last place. It doesn't sell it. Oh, well,
next year will be a different Now, I get it
when you turn the page. If someone's having a bad year,
they can have a better year. But what do you
need to happen. To get from last place to first place,
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you need a lot and you're paying Nolan Ronado a
lot of money. Now, the good news is the guy
is still a stud, right, there was no worry. You know, hey,
what's he gonna be like leaving Colorado playing for Saint Louis.
He is still an elite level third baseman. He's still
an elite level player in the field. He's someone the
Dodgers will get and he will play third base for
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the next five years. And they're locked into him. It's
like they're getting Justin Turner all over again. We're gonna
get a guy, We're gonna PLoP him in there. He's
a bigger power hitter, obviously, but he's gonna solve our
problems for the next few years. And this is how
the Dodgers just wanted to do it. Let's go into
the season, let's give some of the kids a chance
to play, and then when we need to, we'll make
our moves the deadline already they've made too, and this
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should be one that happens. They have everything they need
to make this deal happen. They have the money to
absorb his contract, they have the prospects, to make it happen.
Nolan Ronado should be a Dodger.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Well, our buddy Bob Nightingale on his Twitter account a
little earlier tonight. We'll take this one as we ponder it.
Odds of Saint Louis Cardinals all start third basement Nolan
Aernado waving his no trade clause for a trade to
his hometown Los Angeles Dodgers one percent. Then he adds
the odds of the Saint Louis Cardinals trading Nolan Ernado
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anywhere one percent.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
You know what?
Speaker 5 (25:42):
He also had somebody going to the Padres back in
the day.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Well, but but I bring it up only as a
we we've got insiders, and we know where where a
lot of this goes. And and but I mean, look,
forty years ago, I was the only idiot yelling, hey,
shown he's not going anywhere.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
You're the only idiot. There were other idiots just like you.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
I was the loudest, proudest idiot.
Speaker 5 (26:07):
You're not special.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Right now, but you have to get what you can get.
That's what everybody said across our industry. Nah, not this guy.
Now ram dollars and cents what you just said.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
This is why the Aronado trade is going to happen.
What did you just say the Cardinals chance of the
trade happening one percent? That's not. The Cardinals are not
trading Nolan Arenado. That's not. We have no interest in
trading him. He is not someone we are moving. Yes,
you listen when people call, you listen to saying here's
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a baseball insider saying, hey boy, we're not just you know,
here's what they say. One percent chance. What this is,
this is the Cardinals already negotiating with the Dodgers through
the media. You want Nolan Aronado, You're to give up
some stuff. You're just gonna try to pawn off a
couple of players on us. No, no, we want something
big and good. If you're gonna give, we're gonna give
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you Nolan because I said good.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
So I said good, dude, he's got like forty eight
home runs.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
Man, when he hits the ball.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
He's hitting one forty three. I mean, this is the Cardinals.
They're negotiating through the media. They're letting the Dodgers know chance,
so the Dodgers come with their best offer. This this
is we want to let you know right away. Don't
waste our time. And you want but we like we
you know, Hey, you want to engage us, engage us,
That's what this is saying.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
This one seems pretty unnecessary.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Well, but this is no, but this is Bob Nightingale,
you know, getting from the Cardinals, getting the message out
that the Cardinals want out there. It's gonna be really
tough to train what team puts out there. Hey, we're
wide open, man, give us any Yeah, but I mean
outside of the Mets message nothing.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Yes, he's a Gold Glover and All Star and he's
been All world for a long time. No, we're gonna
take a couple of magic beans. No, you gotta have
guys with some MLB clout. You gotta have some guys
that have shown you that they can perform at this level,
which is why Bobby Miller's name has come up as
perhaps being one of the key pieces to any package
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that would be sent to the Cardinals. I just chuckled
because it seemed like the most unnecessary tweet ever.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Now, yeah, that that's telling you, hey, we could trade them.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
Well, but we're not idiots.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
We were We're smarter than that. This is how we
do it. Just traded cinderguard. Anything that's why he said
one percent. Don't think you're gonna try to reacquire Cindergard
for nothing and send him over here for Aronada. We're
not gonna do it. We're not the Guardians. You're not
just gonna just.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
He got rid of Cinderguard.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
He did.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
They don't need to go through Bob Nightingale. Just send
a message.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
That's the big warning to say. Don't think you don't
think you're coming out of some kind of crazy ass
guard Guardians trade where it's just a guy that you
were gonna wave. No, no, it's gonna be more than that.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
When's the Bobblehead night for for Friedman?
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Next statue, you know, the mini statue with the phone
in his hand.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
Come on, let's go
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We have big goings on in Major League Baseball. We
got some trade stuff to get to coming up in
about twenty minutes. But I may have to fight Sean
Payton micrmon, and if I have to, I think I'll
be okay with let's get it on. I may have
to fight Sean Payn.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
I probably owe somebody money. Do I owe the estate
of Judge Mills Lane seven dollars.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
No, I think you're allowed to say that. I thought,
I don't just don't.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Yeah, you know, no, I know the other guy.
Speaker 5 (01:14):
Don't do it.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
We'll come creeping down through the ducts into the air
ducks and come helicoptering into the studio.
Speaker 5 (01:21):
I can't save you.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
Guys. If you're a lawyer with a lawyer next to him,
then I know.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
I used to love I used to have a good
Mills Lane impression. He bit him, so I stopped to
fight like I used to like my Mills Lane.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
No, I want to watch some of a celebrity death match.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Let's go. But yeah, I'm gonna have to fight Sean
Payton because the Broncos head coach had I don't know
if he still thinks he's in the media or not,
but he had a wow moment that came to light
today that just makes him look ridiculously awful. He did
an interview in which he talked about what's going on
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with the Broncos right now, and to kind of give
you the highlight light of what he said. He talked
about how this year the team is one hundred and
eighty degrees. They're doing everything that the team didn't do
last year, blaming everything that went on on Nathaniel Hackett,
which yeah, okay, I think everybody knows that Daniel Hackett
was a bad head coach. But he lit up the
entire organization. He went from the PR departments all the
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way up to the top, saying we're doing things much
differently than we did last year. And then he went
on to talk about Nathaniel Hackett, who is now the
Jets offensive coordinator, and he said, as far as the
Jets go with Aaron Rodgers, and I'm looking at teams
to try to win the offseason like the Jets did,
and now they're doing hard knocks. I've seen it. I've
seen how bad things can get all of a sudden.
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It's like he thinks I'm still on television and I
have to say something really hot.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
Take nonsense.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Let's go. I guarantee you right now, he's going, what
did I do? Because he looks ridiculous and he looks
like a bully. All right. I mean, I don't know
what going through your head when you figure here's what
I want to do. I want to rip the last
group who was running the team here and by proxy
ripped the people that hired them, because it was only
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a year ago, and I want to criticize some of
the people that are still in the building. And oh,
by the way, unprompted, it's not like he's been going
back and forth and Robert Sala have been trading shots
back and forth with each other over the course of
the off season. No, now I want to go in
on the Jets. Oh, I've seen teams do hard and
the Jets were made to do hard knocks. Okay, the
Jets didn't pick to do hard knocks. And what are
you upset about? Because my first thought is Mike, he's jealous.
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He's jealous that the Jets and Aaron Rodgers are getting
all of the storyline in the offseason and he's not
getting enough attention with Hey, I'm here trying to remake
Russell Wilson. That was one of the biggest stories in
the game last year, and now I'm not getting this attention.
Why Why is Aaron Rodgers and the Jets getting all
the attention Because that's Aaron bleeping' Rodgers. Man. Sorry, but
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it's Aaron Rodgers. And he sounds jealous that they're not
talking about him. So I want to say this now
because I want you to start paying attention to me.
I'm back, everybody, I'm back as a head coach. He
looks ridiculous, and that jealousy, it's almost like he's green
like the new Jets legacy jerseys, that green eyed monster
that you got there. Going on, Sean Paate, you may
he'll beware to throwback Jets at talking about this. Why
(04:15):
are you not talking about me? Where the guy just
sounds jealous.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Well, it's funny because he was a big deal and
when he got hired, I mean that was all we
talked about for a while.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Right.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
He comes back refreshed after a year.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
In television, all of those things, and he has the
reclamation project of Russell Wilson. Not to mention the chaos
that ensued there in Denver. You lost Tim Patrick, you
lost Davonte Williams, two of your top offensive weapons. So
that has something to do with it. The rest of
the administrative stuff that was well chronicled, right that you
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had to bring in someone to help you manage getting
plays in on time so you weren't running to zero
on the play clock time and time again. The disaster
that was the opener against Seattle. All of that's well documented,
and with Sean Payton along the way, there were those
early things at camp when they hit mini camps and
(05:09):
post draft and all of that talking about all right,
new world order and we saw all right, disrupt and
undo all of the extra offices and excess that people
around Russell Wilson had so to remake that and change culture.
Oh that was well documented. Hell, even the last couple
(05:32):
of days there was the article out of Denver about
how excited everybody was that they were just getting down
to business. Evidently that wasn't enough for Sean Payton. He
wanted the national media to get back in. And you
know the Denver report even was talking about the jets
and how they were taking all the air in the
room so good you can go work under cover of night.
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People worried about what the next iteration of the Chiefs
is going to be. People worried about Justin Herbert and
his contract and what the Chargers are going to be.
The Raiders are the Raiders, so have your fun with that.
So you know, work in relative anonymity and get ready
for the season. And he just torched that in doing
this and decided to go after Hackett, So I want
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to know what was left behind other than bad game
tape that Sean Payton really felt it necessary to go
after Hacket on that level, right, because this is something
unheard of. Normally you have skirmishes in game. We've had coaches,
I'm not gonna shake your hand, you're a jerk, and
all that kind of stuff, a little sniping game week,
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but generally just off season and here we are.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Yeah, no it Normally it doesn't go quite that. You
don't go quite that.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Hard in on a guy that this early into a
new campaign, you know.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
And you bring up a really interesting point because this
is my other big takeaway from this hole Sean Payton rant,
which is embarrassing for him. If this was a case
of hey, we're gonna be good, and I'm here and
I'm feeling great about this team, coaches don't say anything.
They don't say that we're gonna be good. They don't
want to draw attention to themselves. They want to work,
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as you said, work in anonymity, and they want to
get ready for the season. The season begins and the
Broncos start five and one, or here's Russell Wilson, he's
playing great and suddenly the attention comes to you and
then okay, yeah, now now it's time. But we worked
hard and we got things going. That's usually what you get.
But the fact that he has stepped out basically at
the beginning of training camp, I wonder how good things
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are actually going in Denver with Russell Wilson going forward,
because it's almost it's almost like, I want to get
out in front of this. I've changed the culture, We've
had to change him. Do things so completely different than
it was. It was really backwards. Is he setting us
up for the fact that, hey, this might not be
what I think it's gonna be. We're not gonna be
very good. Russell Wilson's not the guy I can't fix
(07:56):
Russell Wilson, and he's going to be the same guy
who was the ego. Because that's what I take away
from this, because this is a conversation. This is something
you normally say when you're trying to keep your job,
when it gets like year three and you get a
press conference where maybe you know you're losing, and you're
you know, you're four and seven and and and the
the you know, the the vultures are circling and you
get asked a question and the coach says, well, you know,
(08:20):
we never talked about this, but there's a lot of
stuff we had to change when we came in. The
culture was way worse than we thought it was. There
was we were, it wasn't in as good as shape
as we thought. We did a lot of things that
we didn't talk about to try to change things, so
that pushed our timeline a little bit. So, yeah, I
wanted to be better early, but we still feel like
we're on on target and everything that's normally what and
(08:40):
that's what he's doing now before he's even coached a
game with the Broncos. Oh, we had to make all
these changes. All these things are different idea. This was
being run this way and this is being run this way.
What the hell are you doing? Man? All I feel
like if I'm a Bronco fan, orf I'm a football fan,
I'm saying, boy, the Broncos might stink again, and Russell
Wilson may be done because why is why is he
going out of his way to light up the franchise
(09:02):
and light up another team again? Unprompted, That's my second
big takeaway from Sean Payton and his ridiculous. I want
to make sure people know that we change stuff and
you jets, I'm just jealous and everything you got going
on with Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Well, I think part of it it does lend to
the all right temper your expectations. Hey guess what, coach,
we didn't have any right you'll be better than last year?
Speaker 4 (09:26):
What does that mean?
Speaker 3 (09:28):
When you're coming from where they were and the levels
of ineptitude that you had. Any step forward is a
huge one, so take credit. But part of it is
setting up. Look, they were such a disaster. I'm a wizard,
so I'm gonna turn this around. And also kind of
putting Russell Wilson unnoticed that if it doesn't go bad,
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I'm cutting you loose.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
I'm going jess up here. When it went bad, you
cut those guys loose.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
And that's kind of what we're looking at here is
setting himself up because if it works, I'm the genius.
Wasn't Russ. It was all the coaching, So any credit
I get. But if it's bad, watch it. It'll be
all on Russ as quickly as possible. And for Sean Payton,
it's an interesting tact to take in Denver because he'd
(10:17):
made a lot of changes. Right, they're not doing live
radio spots and shows and the media access that you
used to have. Isn't there a lot of the other
things that you would normally do in the process of
getting ready for training camp. He squashed along the way,
player availabilities and things of that nature. So it's definitely
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taken a different process. But also you'd think when you're
gonna come out all Vince McMahon or Connor McGregor walk
like this, that you were coming off multiple super Bowls.
Hell of a coach. We've seen what he's done with quarterbacks.
He's won with some guys that nobody thought he could
win with, but he wanted did a lot of his
(10:58):
winning with a guy who's a Hall of Fame in
one of the best quarterbacks and most accurate quarterbacks. You
want to do the system quarterback thing. You could do
that if you want to. But Drew Brees was fantastic.
They won one super Bowl. It's hard to win a
Super Bowl. I get that, but he's not coming off
some level of dominance to where you come in and
(11:19):
you just start trashing everybody else on your way back
into the game. I mean that's a lot of hot
takery that he learned with our colleagues and our extended
family here at Fox.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
I would guess, yeah, I mean, do I really blow
this up?
Speaker 1 (11:33):
I mean, just think about that for a second. When's
the leg just when's the last time you heard a
current NFL head coach get a job? And before the
game begins, before the season begins, he says the coach
who was here last year, Hey, we're doing things one
hundred and eighty degrees different from where they were. Not
only that, other positions in the organization need to be
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doing it differently. And oh, by the way, the new
team he went to, they're going to struggle, right, they
tried to win the off season. They're doing hard knocks.
I've seen how that ends. Tell me a.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Coach it's done that. Oh I know someone who has
I mean tell you well, I mean he didn't do
it to another team.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
But you might remember me from such takes as today earlier.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Dionne Sanders walking into that meeting room in Colorado.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Oh, he was just wanting to cut your cut.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
You're done, I'm.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
But nobody has done that. And take on other coaches
because you just don't do it now. I'm not saying
he shouldn't say it because he wanted to say this obviously,
but you you got to deal with the ramifications of this.
You can't have freedom of responsibility from this. You want
to say that, Hey, guess what, man, people are gonna say,
what the hell is wrong with you? You really want it?
(12:50):
You really don't. I'm I'm hoping that there's some kind
of apology to Robert Sala, there's some kind of whatever
it is saying, hey, dude, that's not what I meant.
Things are tough here, whatever, or there's I'm kind of hey,
I think it was a little too harsh Broncos Country.
Let's ride a little too harsh what I said yesterday.
I want to make sure that people understand or I
was taken out a context or some kinds of crazy
(13:11):
ass thing that's gonna make him look better, because he
just looks terrible in this.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
He looks like reallyway completely had at Hackett. He could say, hey, Sala,
you just happened to be the top guy.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
Really just going after.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
Him Jason at the end of the day, was he
is he wrong?
Speaker 1 (13:26):
No, he's not. But does he need to say I
think everybody knows like it's it's like, oh, I want
to be the first one to say, everybody knows how bad.
Everybody knew it was bad. Week one last year and
Hackett settling for a sixty three yard field goal. Yes,
that's fifty, Simpsons me, everybody knows.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Stop, he's already he already took his job, all right.
So let's see, let's do schedule watching Week one against
the Raiders at home.
Speaker 5 (13:51):
Yeah, it's unfortunately a win, Mike.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Week two at home against Sam Howell, and you're soon
to be renamed commanders.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
Unfortunately, there'll be two or zero.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
Week three on the road at Miami.
Speaker 5 (14:04):
Two and one.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Week four on the road, bears, how dare you?
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Io's gonna help you there? Frothbert just came in and
just came over the top row. Oh that's three and one,
that's three? What now?
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Marking with this guy a decade? Let's just went Payton
on me. Let's put him at two and two.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
I don't know. You're going on the road, min that's fine.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
And then week five the Jets visit Denver.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Are we going to the hell that's a big hell,
because the Jets are gonna hang fifty. We'll see you
week five. Sean Payton seventy three days. I'm putting on
my com crossing it off tonight like Billy Madison and
Steve Bishemi seventy two, seventy one, seventy two days till
week five. We'll see you then. We have two opening days. Now,
we have opening day Week one and we have Week
(14:47):
five against the Broncos. You want to bring it, you
don't want Jets smoke. Just stick with your smoke. Worry
about the AFC West, worry about what's going on in Veguas,
worry about Justin Herbert and his big contract, worry about
my worry about all that. You don't want the Jets
smoke man, stay with that smoke that you don't want.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Our There's a giant skirmish during warm ups at midfield
and no players are involved. It's the coaching steps and
beat the hell out of each other.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
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Speaker 1 (15:22):
The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon.
You know I actually I'm gonna tell you true starman.
Wait for you to play Pet Shot Boys night, Alex Heicher,
So I can tell you this, Hi, Jason. I had
a friend of mine today who listens to the show
Oh Hid for a long time, and he said to me,
do you only play Pet Shop Boys and Tears for Fears?
(15:43):
Is that all you play?
Speaker 5 (15:44):
I mean, I'm thinking about doing a night like that.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Yeah, boy, you know, at least once you give me
what have I done to deserve this? That's my favorite
Pet Shot Boys?
Speaker 4 (15:54):
So yes, yes, yeah, give one of those.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Come on next week?
Speaker 4 (15:57):
Concerts in town? Are we going?
Speaker 5 (15:59):
Wait, there's your fears?
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Yeah, it's done. Ty Shirt's going to go to Tears
for Fear. It's gonna be disappointed and say I'm never
playing that song again. So that's gonna go. All right.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Well, you know, on this day in nineteen eighty four,
Ride the Lightning was released, So there you go.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Oh man, we are nearly on the forty year anniversary
of Ride the I just remember buying it. I remember
buying that. For the first I went to see a
play with my mom in New York City, and I
forget what play went to see. And then after she said,
do you want to go shopping in Times Square? And
I said yes, and I bought Ride the Lightning. I bought,
I bought the I bought the uh. The cassette of
Ride the Lightning was like nineteen dollars. So I was
(16:34):
like so excited. I explained to them. I got to
explained a generation why what cassette is? And I was
so excited to get I'm like, yes, everybody, all my
friends are talking about Metallica, how good they are here,
And she bought me Metallica cassette. I was so excited.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Master of the house, Yeah that might have been what
you saw.
Speaker 5 (16:51):
Did you tell your mom don't worry, we'll have them
back by eight Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
I was time traveling at the point when I said
I want to buy Metallica, she said sure, I could
have anything. I could have said, I want to buy
Jumping Knucklehead Billy's new album. Yeah, whatever you want. Jok.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Sure has there ever been a musical artist actually named
Jumping Knucklehead Billy?
Speaker 4 (17:10):
And if not, why no?
Speaker 5 (17:13):
Just kidding?
Speaker 1 (17:14):
You got to do Jumping Knucklehead Billy album. Oh it's
so good. It's such a good one. But I remember
I remember buying late, like eleven o'clock at night. I'm
like I'm in a store at eleven o'clock at night
and I'm fourteen. It's square man, cool man. This is
really cool. I'm coming on. Other people are buying stuff
and I'm buying metallica. It was great.
Speaker 5 (17:31):
Did you say the naked cowboy or.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
I didn't know he was. That was too that's too
early for the naked cowboy.
Speaker 5 (17:36):
Yeah, he was probably his dad back then.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
No, no, no, the big guy in the handed it down. No, no, no, no,
just that gig in the early eighties was a guy
that would dress up as a famous this different Yankee
Hall of Famer, and you would take pictures with him.
He had a bat and he had a helmet. He
would he would have the different jersey. Always got Roger Morris.
Today he's got Mickey mailed. That was like the guy
to take pictures with.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
No, that's a good move, having the baddest part of
the outfit, because if you tried to stiff them on
the tip for taking the picture.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
He had a bat in his hand. Was Dirty Elmo
around back then.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
About a couple No, it was too early for Dirty Almo.
Too early. Tomo Cooks, You're like a whole You're like
a whole decade behind all.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
That's fifteen Batman.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Yeah, Raggedy spider Man.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
I can't better Square Man. How many Batmen have you buried?
I've buried fourteen Batman with a little pointy years.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
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Speaker 3 (18:34):
So he's talking about before times Square was cleaned up too,
So before.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
The trade deadline. We are at a great time right
now because we're already seeing trades come down, meaning that
trade dead sea trade deadline season has actually begun already.
Sometimes we don't see anything until a day or two before,
and then it's really hard to make big trades happen
because it's hard to put big trades together for star
players in a short amount of time. But now what
(19:02):
we've seen the last twenty four hours, trade season's open, right.
The Dodgers get keyk Hernandez. It was a nice deal.
Then they went and stole on Ed Rosario for Noah Sindigard,
which is a really good deal.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
Sweet victory.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Potentially they're getting an even bigger player which's gonna get
to coming up in a couple of minutes last night,
the Angels went and got Lucas Gilito, a big part
of that trade, gave a couple of big prospects. Carlos
Santana got traded today, and the Mets tonight trade David
Robertson to the Marlins. The Mets deciding finally, yes, we
are putting an endo our season as contenders. It is
(19:35):
time to move on and move on into next year.
So the great Mets selloff has began. And I will
tell you this before we get to the big Dodger story.
I will tell you this Verlander and Schurzer will follow.
I'm more confident about Verlander than I am Surezer because
Verlander has been a little bit better lately and his
velocity is back. He's up, back up, throwing ninety eight again.
(19:58):
And I read where a lot of scouts think, if
you them on a new team in the thick of
a Pennant race, he'll even throw harder and it will
be you know that Excitement'll get another couple miles an
hour on his fastball, and you can go get him.
So and we had John Paul Morosi on earlier tonight.
MLB Network insider said, yeah, hey, justin Verlander the Giants.
That's a definite possibility. Now things depend on how much
(20:19):
money the Mets eat, depending on what prospects they're gonna
get back. But the great Mets sell off has begun. Verlander, Schurzer,
all the other older guys they have, Tommy fam Markkanna.
The Padres sell off is gonna start Soumes if the
Mets are starting, you know, the Padre's got to get
involved because they get a lot of guys too. It's
gonna be Snell, It's gonna be Hater. It could even
(20:40):
be jan Soto. They're gonna make a move because they
spent a lot of money and things haven't gone well.
So now that the trade deadline season has begun and
now the phones are gonna start loosening up a bit,
you're gonna see the big names get dealt because now
teams have five six days to make a deal for
Verlander and figure out the money. If the Mets just
put Verlander on the on the market on Monday, the
(21:01):
day before, I say, yes, we're done. We lost our
weekend series. We're moving on. How are you going to
put together trade for him? Right? The money he's due,
the rest of this year, the forty plus Millioni's do
next year? Can you really do that? I mean, it's
too tough to do. What kind of prospects will you get?
You need a few days to put something like this together.
And then mets at a great move by announcing that tonight, hey,
(21:22):
where sellers call us? And now the Padres will get involved.
We're going to see a really, really big Major League
Baseball trade deadline boocket. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
The one thing that I think does potentially throw some
cold water on all of it and makes it all
retract there was shrinkage is the fact that you've got
so many teams that are quasi contenders right They're kind
of hanging around the back end of the wild card
race and with one good series can convince them themselves
(21:51):
that they matter. We've got very few true bottom feeders
in terms of team results this year, my love in
White Sox being one of them. As you know, they
will now be pillaged, maybe by the Angels again, but
certainly the Dodgers will come knocking for what's left on
the carcass. But you go through and I think that
(22:13):
might slow things up a little bit, just that hesitation
to where you're gonna need to really come over the
top with the package to overwhelm a would be you know,
trade partners. So I think there's a little curiosity there.
Now I have a question for you. With the Padres
and the Mets, do they have a side bet as
to which team exits the trade deadline with the least
(22:37):
remaining salary that they entered the season with.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
So can I purge?
Speaker 3 (22:43):
You know?
Speaker 4 (22:44):
Do I only?
Speaker 3 (22:44):
I say, I've got sixty percent of my bloated payroll left,
but you only have fifty eight percent of yours that
you win. It's like, you know, like when we do
these idiotic mayor bets through teams in World Series and stuff.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
If we win, we'll give you a can of sardines
and you get us cheesecake. Hey, that sounds like a
great bed. That's awesome right there. Now, wait, now does
it does it matter if you just get the salary
off the books or do you have to trade the
whole salary? Like if the Mets trade Verlander but they
say we're paying his entire salary, why does that No.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
That doesn't count. Just get rid of the guy.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
Like it's about the money, all right, No, just his
physical presence who the hell cares. It's because they're only
being judged based on how much money they spent. And
then they didn't have that giant dollar amount. It was
just hey, there's Justin Verlander's great. No, it's Justin Verlander
and thirty six million dollars. That's why it's a bigger deal.
Come on, man, the two are not independent in this
(23:41):
particular case.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Now, the trade, the next trade that could happen, and
this has been breaking around the league for most of
the day. The Dodgers and Cardinals have been having conversations
centered around Nolan Ronado, and this is a trade that
one should happen, right, the Cardinals are going nowhere to
the Cardinal Unless the Cardinals believe that, hey, we can
(24:05):
just bounce back next year, that's a really tough thing
to do. You don't just go last to first by
saying we're bouncing back. You need to have big time changes.
You need to change the culture. There's a reason why
you're in last place. It doesn't sell it. Oh, well,
next year will be a different Now, I get it
when you turn the page. If someone's having a bad year,
they can have a better year. But what do you
need to happen. To get from last place to first place,
(24:27):
you need a lot and you're paying Nolan Ronado a
lot of money. Now, the good news is the guy
is still a stud, right, there was no worry. You know, hey,
what's he gonna be like leaving Colorado playing for Saint Louis.
He is still an elite level third baseman. He's still
an elite level player in the field. He's someone the
Dodgers will get and he will play third base for
(24:47):
the next five years. And they're locked into him. It's
like they're getting Justin Turner all over again. We're gonna
get a guy, We're gonna PLoP him in there. He's
a bigger power hitter, obviously, but he's gonna solve our
problems for the next few years. And this is how
the Dodgers just wanted to do it. Let's go into
the season, let's give some of the kids a chance
to play, and then when we need to, we'll make
our moves the deadline already they've made too, and this
(25:09):
should be one that happens. They have everything they need
to make this deal happen. They have the money to
absorb his contract, they have the prospects, to make it happen.
Nolan Ronado should be a Dodger.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Well, our buddy Bob Nightingale on his Twitter account a
little earlier tonight. We'll take this one as we ponder it.
Odds of Saint Louis Cardinals all start third basement Nolan
Aernado waving his no trade clause for a trade to
his hometown Los Angeles Dodgers one percent. Then he adds
the odds of the Saint Louis Cardinals trading Nolan Ernado
(25:38):
anywhere one percent.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
You know what?
Speaker 5 (25:42):
He also had somebody going to the Padres back in
the day.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Well, but but I bring it up only as a
we we've got insiders, and we know where where a
lot of this goes. And and but I mean, look,
forty years ago, I was the only idiot yelling, hey,
shown he's not going anywhere.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
You're the only idiot. There were other idiots just like you.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
I was the loudest, proudest idiot.
Speaker 5 (26:07):
You're not special.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Right now, but you have to get what you can get.
That's what everybody said across our industry. Nah, not this guy.
Now ram dollars and cents what you just said.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
This is why the Aronado trade is going to happen.
What did you just say the Cardinals chance of the
trade happening one percent? That's not. The Cardinals are not
trading Nolan Arenado. That's not. We have no interest in
trading him. He is not someone we are moving. Yes,
you listen when people call, you listen to saying here's
(26:46):
a baseball insider saying, hey boy, we're not just you know,
here's what they say. One percent chance. What this is,
this is the Cardinals already negotiating with the Dodgers through
the media. You want Nolan Aronado, You're to give up
some stuff. You're just gonna try to pawn off a
couple of players on us. No, no, we want something
big and good. If you're gonna give, we're gonna give
(27:08):
you Nolan because I said good.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
So I said good, dude, he's got like forty eight
home runs.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
Man, when he hits the ball.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
He's hitting one forty three. I mean, this is the Cardinals.
They're negotiating through the media. They're letting the Dodgers know chance,
so the Dodgers come with their best offer. This this
is we want to let you know right away. Don't
waste our time. And you want but we like we
you know, Hey, you want to engage us, engage us,
That's what this is saying.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
This one seems pretty unnecessary.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Well, but this is no, but this is Bob Nightingale,
you know, getting from the Cardinals, getting the message out
that the Cardinals want out there. It's gonna be really
tough to train what team puts out there. Hey, we're
wide open, man, give us any Yeah, but I mean
outside of the Mets message nothing.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Yes, he's a Gold Glover and All Star and he's
been All world for a long time. No, we're gonna
take a couple of magic beans. No, you gotta have
guys with some MLB clout. You gotta have some guys
that have shown you that they can perform at this level,
which is why Bobby Miller's name has come up as
perhaps being one of the key pieces to any package
(28:19):
that would be sent to the Cardinals. I just chuckled
because it seemed like the most unnecessary tweet ever.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Now, yeah, that that's telling you, hey, we could trade them.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
Well, but we're not idiots.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
We were We're smarter than that. This is how we
do it. Just traded cinderguard. Anything that's why he said
one percent. Don't think you're gonna try to reacquire Cindergard
for nothing and send him over here for Aronada. We're
not gonna do it. We're not the Guardians. You're not
just gonna just.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
He got rid of Cinderguard.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
He did.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
They don't need to go through Bob Nightingale. Just send
a message.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
That's the big warning to say. Don't think you don't
think you're coming out of some kind of crazy ass
guard Guardians trade where it's just a guy that you
were gonna wave. No, no, it's gonna be more than that.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
When's the Bobblehead night for for Friedman?
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Next statue, you know, the mini statue with the phone
in his hand.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
Come on, let's go
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