July 28, 2023 • 42 mins
Jason Smith and Mike Harmon explain why Sean Payton is jealous that the Jets/Aaron Rodgers are getting all the off-season attention. Why Jets at Broncos in Week 5 is now must-see TV. And longtime MLB Insider Jon Paul Morosi swings by for all the latest on Shohei Ohtani and the trade deadline.
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believe it was Bill Paxton in The Great Aliens from
nineteen eighty six when he was cornered by the Aliens,
he pulled out that gun. He kept saying, you want some,
Come get some. Hey say this tonight, you want some,
Sean Payton, you come get some. We'll see you in
week five. You want some. You want some. To Russell Wilson,
you want some. We'll see you in week five. We'll
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see you week five. That's seventy three days. We will
see you in seventy three days. You want some of
this smoke, Sean Payton, you don't want this smoke. You
wouldn't be talking about how you're changing cultures if things
were going that great in Denver. You don't want the
jet smoke. You gotta sit there and take That's whatever
smoke you have in Denver, that's your smoke. Man. You
don't want our smoke. You don't want this smoke.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Shows you how much being in the media for a
year can rot your damn brain. I need to have
hot takes when I meet with the media. First time.
I'm gonna talk about this gambling policy and what a
pile of blah blah blah. And that was his first
talking boy yesterday. It's like, yeah, hey, Sean, it's like
eleven guys out of sixteen hundred, shut the hell up
(01:55):
and do the math. Okay, everybody else figured it out.
Those eleven guys dumb. Okay, everybody else figured out the policy.
As for today, Yeah, man, you just what do you
want to do. What do you want to talk about? Well,
I'm gonna tell you what a miserable operation it was.
I mean, this sounds like Doc Rivers absolving Blake Griffin
(02:17):
of all blamed. It's not Blake's fault. Right, For years,
we've been playing that quote said taking Oh no, no,
Russell's my guy. I mean, it wasn't him. Never mind
the office on the second floor, never mind all the
people in the room, and that we had open access
to everything around him. No, no, no, it was all
hackets fault. Let's just pick fights. Yeah, I love it.
(02:39):
It's good for business, good for hot take nonsense. Just
remember you're in the AFC West. You're in for a
year of hell. Good luck.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
You think he's sitting around right now, going, oh, I'm
not in the media anymore. Oh, this is not going
over how I thought it was going over because he
looks awful after this. He looks so awful and so
low class. I can't even tell you.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Well, the other part of it, Jason, is that he
in doing all this. It's like you went into broadcasting
because you just won three Super Bowls and it wasn't
a challenge anymore. Last I remember Drew Brees' kid couldn't
walk when he was holding them up with the earphones.
When they actually won the Super Bowl, that's a lifetime ago.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
This he looks terrible. He looks absolutely awful because he broke.
He broke kind of the unwritten rule of coaches don't
really rip other coaches, right they just don't do that,
the brotherhood of coaches, they just don't do it. Right now,
I'm not saying he shouldn't have done it. I'm not here.
He looks Say what you want to say, be who
you want to be.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
I appreciate what you giving us.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
That's great. Say what you want to say, and and
that's fine, but understand that you don't get freedom from responsibility.
You know, I've said what I said. No, no, no,
Now everybody else gets to say what they want to say.
And you look terrible. You look like you're bitter, and
you know what, Honestly, he looks like he's jealous. He
looks like he's jealous that Aaron Rodgers and the Jets
(04:07):
are getting all this attention in the offseason. And he
has gone on record not liking Aaron Rodgers body language.
Things going on that whole year in the media all
last year in Green Bay. He looks like he is jealous.
He doesn't like Aaron Rodgers, and he's jealous that of
all the attention the Jets are getting. Every single day
it's a Jets headline. Are the Jets gonna do hard knocks?
(04:27):
Are they not? He talks about all the Jets doing
hard I've seen that with teams before the NFL made
the Jets do it. The Jets didn't say yes, The
Jets didn't say, hey, we volunteer with that first team. No,
they made them do it right. He's reinventing things as
he goes along because he's mad. Because he's mad that
why am I not getting the attention taking over here
in Denver as I try to redo Russell Wilson's career.
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I mean, that's exactly what it looks like. Wait a minute,
Why are you not talking about me? Why? Why? Wait? Wait?
Did all this Jets say, I'll tell you we're doing
everything different this year in Denver than Nathaniel Hackett did.
He blowed torched everybody today in the interview he did
about how the Broncos were run last year, how from
the top of the organization down. I think he had
got in the public relationship and he just torched and
(05:12):
a lot of people still work in the building that
he torched that he was so mad about. And I'm
saying to myself, what is his purpose here? What is
his purpose? Because he looks jealous and it looks like
I want to get this narrative out there that we're
changing things, that things need to be changed. Why is
that narrative out there? If things are going okay? Right,
that's the two biggest things. He's jealous and why does
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he have to do this if things are going okay?
Cause things are going okay in Denver and you're gonna
win a lot of games, and Russell Wilson looks great,
and the offense looks great, and you love Jerry Judy
and Courtland Sutton, everything you got going on. Hey, we
got healthy running backs coming back. Hey, we're If you're
feeling like that, you are just doing your thing and
you're going to hit the regular season, start winning, and
that's when things start falling your way. Hey, look at
(05:56):
this job Sean Payton is doing. Denver's getting a lot
of attention, But right now he is trying to pick
up Russell Wilson's career from the scrap heap. If it
was going well, if things are going well in Denver,
then would he would be silent? He would not be seen.
He would not feel the need to go on a
podcast and light up the organization and say, last year,
we are doing things right, which is what Sean Payton did. Oh,
(06:17):
by the way, just to give you a quick recap
a recent podcast Sean Payton did talking about how the
Broncos are doing everything one hundred and eighty degrees differently
from how things are done last year under Nathaniel Hackett.
Everything is different. Russell Wilson's people aren't in the building.
He blamed everybody from the public relations apartment up to
the top of the of the food chain that they
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did things the wrong way. Now they're doing it the
right way. And he also said, wait and see what
happens to the Jets, who, oh, by the way, happened
to have Nathaniel Hackett as their offensive coordinator. I've seen
teams try to win the offseason like the Jets have.
They're doing hard knocks. I've seen how this goes. He
decided to take a blowtorch today because he's jealous and
things aren't going well, because I guarantee you if things were,
(07:00):
he wouldn't be doing this, He wouldn't have done what
he's done over the last couple of days.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Yeah, I would say that. There's a couple of pieces
to it for me, is you know he had gotten
a lot of celebration and fanfare upon his hiring, right,
because we can all agree, and Peyton's not saying anything
we didn't all last year in terms of the clown
show that was being perpetrated, going back to opening night
in that game against Seattle, right and your quarterback, and
(07:29):
I put a lot of it on Russell Wilson, just
like I had on Rogers, not overruling Lafloor, saying look,
I've been here, I've done this, I've won. That kicker
stays on the damn sidelines, give me my chance, Look
at my history, here's my resume, all of those things.
But he's been very clear about changing up. We used
(07:49):
the word culture a bit loosely in all this, but yeah,
changing up how business is operating. Talk about all those
extra people around, talk about media not being part of training. Right,
no live radio shows, no live TV hits, whatever, You're
not there to do that stuff during Sean Payton's regime,
(08:09):
wondering how much of a distraction whatever else. Just you're
gonna play by these different rules. The other part is
this is the I'm going to put you on a pedestal,
Russell Wilson, because right now I'm telling you I'm a
great coach and anything that fails is your fault. I'm
a wizard. It seems like, so it is your fault
(08:29):
if this blows.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Ready, he's already backing away from making from any kind
of achievements or things are going to be great this year,
right Like it's I'm backing, like I'm backing away from
this because I'm just brought in. And if Russell Wilson fails, hey,
that's a mark on me because I've always done well
with every quarterback I've ever had. And like, look, I
don't see there being any other reason why you would
(08:52):
say this unless you were trying to get a narrative
out there early before anybody really gets into seeing practice
in the summer. And here, hey, Russell Wilson was really inaccurate. Boy,
Russell Wilson was throwing the ball over guy's heads. Russell
Wilson had three interceptions in a seven on seven drill today,
and he seems like, I want to get this out
there before anything else goes on. Hey, Sean Payton's saying,
I had to make a lot of changes. Things were really,
(09:13):
really bad and I had to make a lot of changes.
This is usually what you get from a coach when
he feels like he's going to be fired, where it's hey,
you know it's been three years now, and the coach says, well,
there was a lot that I had to take care
of when I took over that people don't know about.
I mean there there's lots of things that happened that
I had to come in and then sweep to the side.
It took a little bit longer than we thought, and
(09:34):
you know, I thought it would take less time. But
we're still in a great track. And really, I just
don't want to get fired. And I want you to
think that other things. I'm dealing with a lot of things.
I want you to know I'm dealing with a lot
of things. I'm doing it differently. I'm great. Don't let
any narrative take you the other way, because remember I'm great.
I'm the great one. I'm Sean Payton, I'm greatly because.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
If it works, I'm a wizard, right, you saw how
terrible it was last year, So if it works, I
want to make sure I get my credit. Meanwhile, I've
also said enough to where I'm pointing directly at Russell
and saying it's on you, you know, to make me
look good. I'm gonna get all the credit. I want
all the credit for turning this organization around. But let's
(10:15):
face it, if it fails, you're You're part of the
problem now, Russ, because I'm a wizard and nobody beats me.
And that's that's where he's headed with all of this,
and the old Duth protests too much, and look, it's
all calculated. We get this Peyton planning his seeds and
he did the thing you know about the gambling rules
(10:37):
after a player got suspended from his squad. All of
these things, it's it's to make sure I check all
the boxes to show you I'm the smartest guy in
the room. And he might be right, him and Sean McVay,
we could we could have a Quest Bowl for charity,
who's the smarter guy and Kevin James is the host.
But we have that as we roll into this season,
(11:00):
you're in a tough division. I don't know if you
necessarily grasp that in the process, because as bad as
they were, they weren't exactly you know, playing against the
you know, the lightweights or in one of the very
easily uh contested and winnable divisions takes nothing away from
how poor they were and all the organizational stuff we
(11:22):
heard about, right a quality control coach coming in right
away after early failures on down distance and getting plays in,
you know, looking for the perfect play. All that stuff. Uh,
there was. It was just a a litany of stuff.
But I thought it was funny because I don't I
forget it was the Denver Post or one of the
publications there. Over the last couple of days, Jason I
(11:43):
saw scroll through my timeline. Uh, they're enjoying a quiet
off season and training camp. Start with the spotlights somewhere else.
That was the headline that they had New York with
all the running backs whatever else.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
I nope, nope, look at me. Look just think about
this for a second when I talk about how how
low class this was from Sean Payton, Tell me the
last time you heard an NFL head coach say, Hey,
the guy that was here last year was terrible. And
the new team he's on right now, they're gonna fail
(12:21):
to tell me the last time you've heard a coach
say anything like that? They just don't, well what beside
Sean Payton. But now we got to know what the
beef is. When's the last time beef? Hey, you want
a beef with Robert Salad? Robert Salah will kick his
ass in a fight, Robert Salad. If text the one thing,
if it was like coaches in fist fights to win games,
like the Jets would be undefeated, like Robert say, be
(12:43):
seventeen to.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Oho oh, we get a lot of that slap fights
and hey, I didn't like the way you coached here
here here and you know, yeah whatever. But but it's
never personal attacks, right, so perituation, it's.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Unprompted, and it's under there's it's not like someone saying
something or there's whispers out of New York. Hey, I
don't know what's going.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
With the saying good luck with that side. The picture
of Russell Wilson with a smiley fan left it on
the desk, Hey, good luck with this guy.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
Jason Salah had the chance to fight back today and
you know what he did. He didn't. Yeah, he looks
so he's not kicking anybody's office.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Solah took the high road, man, Solah took that, which
is fine. You will see you when we can. He
had no comeback. We'll see you when we like. No,
you had a great comeback. Do we have his comeback?
You got it ready? No play his comeback?
Speaker 4 (13:28):
Look, come on, Ert Solomon.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
He had What else are we doing?
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Oh no, no? Yeah, I mean outside of no Otani
with a complete game and two home runs.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
Yeah, I'll tell you that. I'm rooting for Week five Jets.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Baby, Yeah, you bet where your new legacy Jets Aaron
Rodgers jersey that's coming out. You don't see this. You
don't see any coach ever saying this. And it's it's
not like he had any kind of history with Nathaniel Hackett.
It's not like there was off season war of words
going back and forth. He decided, unprompted, Yeah, I want
(14:03):
to tell you what I think about the Jets this year. Wow.
I mean, hey, if he ever gets fired, which could happen,
if he has a bad year, I'd worry about my
job now because he can go on the radio and
gives some hot takes. Man, that gives a big time stuff.
That's what I worry about, man, Sean Payton getting a
job in sports talk radio, because if he's doing that
as a head coach, oh man, he'll just let it
fly even more as a radio host.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Tell you what. Hanging around with people at Fox for
a year. Look what happened.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
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Sean Payton, I'm sorry that Robert Sala and Aaron Rodgers
are getting old the attention that you and a Russell
Wilson are doing. I'm so sorry.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Sound pretty sad about it. Get the work done in
the dark. I mean, did you know? I mean, look,
I'm glad he didn't. You know, just genu Fleck like
everybody else's Oh look at this, he completed an eight
yard in route. Yeah great, I don't need you see
that littering my timeline. I'm muting everybody that retweets that crap.
(15:05):
Stay to a training camp, for crying out loud.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Stop it seventy three days till week five. We'll see
you that. It'd be two opening weeks for the Jets.
There's opening week and then there's week five. It's gonna
be awesome, It's fantastic.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
Well, dude, do you realize one week from tonight you
guys play two.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Yeah a night.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
It's gonna be another month before Aaron Rodgers actually takes all.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
Zach Wilson's been making some throws.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Man's making job. It looks good. He's making Aaron Rodgers job.
Health Wait, we could have a quarterback controversy on our hands.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
Get ready, I mean better than Rogers?
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Come on, Aaron Rodgers threw that sidearm touchdown to Garrett
Wilson two days ago and the Jets win total jumped
from nine to fourteen.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Come on, man, No, that thing like had magical pixie
dust on it. Man, the way it was spinning the
perfect rotation.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
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Speaker 1 (15:58):
We got into show a few minutes ago, and we're
gonna we're gonna get into back into the biggest story
out of the NFL in a couple of seconds. But
we have John Paul Morosi coming up in about twenty minutes,
and it looks like the Dodgers could be moving towards
another trade. They make a good trade bringing back Keike Hernandez,
(16:19):
who always played well in LA. They make a better
trade giving up basically nothing for I'm at Rosario, who's
gonna help the Dodgers, yeah right away, as a solid player.
They gave up a guy that they could have waived
and no one would pick up in Cindergarten.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
I do feel bad that this is where we're at
with Cindergarten.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Like, I don't feel bad. The guy's staying because he's
throwing seventy two miles an hour now and that's his fastball.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Come on, that man has a family. Come on, just
like that baseball that was hit the other day. Come on,
you know, let baseball had a family.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Hey, I'm old enough to remember Noah Sindergard saying, oh,
I'd be very happy to get the Mets qualifying offer
and take it for eighteen million dollars. And as soon
as the Angels came with twenty million, he said nope,
I'm going to the Angels. Uh dude, you you know what,
you made that decision, and the team that had the
most invested in you you decided to walk away from. Yeah,
you you basically just shorten your career.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Oh yeah, no, that's you, bitter Mets fans. I'm talking
to me as as a human humanitarian. I'm a man
of the people. I wrap everybody in a big hug.
And look, obviously he's talking you do I do too.
Stop with that, I do too.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Sometimes your hug is like a bear where you squeeze
a life out of people just to get that.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Back watch wrestling growing up, that's you. You really have
to feel it, you feel the love. But no, for
sinder Guard, the fact that you were able to make
a deal, I mean, look, that's wizardry man. We're talking
about aliens the last couple of days and stuff. I mean,
that's just absolute sorcery, Jedi mind tricks.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
I don't understand how the Guardian said, yes, we want
no Syndergard. I don't get it. But now they could
be making another move and we'll find out just the
possibility of this, as that the Dodgers and the Cardinals
have been talking about Nolan Arenado, the Cardinals having a
horrible season. Ronado has doing a lot of money for
(18:10):
the next few years. And I see this trade happen.
And you know, you and I have actually talked about.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
This in the long time.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Weeks. Yeah, you know about Hey, Aronado would be a
great fit. He's someone that the Dodgers would sign and
he would be their third basement for the next five years.
They would take on his money, no problem, Yo, you
do that. Yeah, that's fine. By the time, with thirty
five thirty six, your contracts a little bit lower. But
Aronado has done nothing but continue to rake even as
he left Colorado. You all the dogs he nerk. Can
(18:38):
he still do it in Saint Louis. He's not in
Quartsfield anymore. No, the guy is still hitting. The guy
is still one of the best third basemen you've seen.
He would fit right in. The Dodgers have a couple
of prospects. I'm sure if they want this deal to happen,
this deal will happen, and you could slot him in
there at third base next be like getting Freddy Freeman. Hey,
this is terrific. He's thirty two years old. We're gonna
slot him in there for the next three or four years.
(19:00):
The same thing will happen with Nolan Aronado, and the
Dodgers should make this happen hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Yeah, I mean we remember all the talk here locally,
right broadcasting from LA. Hello, everybody, am five to seventy
LA Sports with us tonight, because I mean, certainly everybody
gets excited when the big names start getting bandied about
all the expectations because they're still waiting for a parade
to just bring Otani and his stuff up the five
this offseason. But in the interim, all right, what else
(19:26):
is out there? What else is available in what looks
to be a bit of a seller's market because you
have so many teams still contending, the Cardinals going through
one of the rare disastrous seasons given the history of
this squad. But remember when it looked like he was
headed to free agency before he signed that monster deal
(19:48):
to stay in Colorado, and we were seeing the mockups
of jerseys for him here already, right, people were excited
He's coming to town like Santa Claus. And now that
may actually come to fruition, and for many fans pundits,
now it's a question of all right, what is a
trade that makes this happen? Because you see Bobby Miller's
(20:10):
name mentioned, and I've seen some reaction. I've seen it
in the blogs and then the messageboards that folks are
a little excitable not wanting to see him be part
of a deal. It's like, hey, you know what, take
take the other young pitchers that you've seen glimpses of
this year, some guys that have been part of of
what this team has begun to build here as we
(20:32):
get towards the stretch run. But to think about Arnatto
joining this already loaded roster and Freddie Freeman, Mookie Bleeping Bets,
who we celebrate every chance we get, you know, throwing
guys out and what he does at the plate. Yeah,
it's it's exciting stuff. And for the Cardinals just a rare,
(20:52):
rare circumstance of all right, you got you gotta swallow
a little bit of pride and recognize this is better
for your long term.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Yeah, I mean it should happen. The Dodgers have enough,
they will take the contract, They have the prospects whatever,
I mean, they have enough. It should happen. But we'll
find out from John Paul Morosi coming up in a
few minutes. Where things are at last time, we get
talked to JP before the trade deadline, so we'll get
the latest on here and what could happen with some
other teams making moves.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Michigan suspending Jim Harbaugh.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Yeah he JP may be the head coach of the
football team for the first four guns now.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
PJ. Fleck is trying to deflex stuff. The Conference of problems,
the Conference of scandals. It's nothing conference of champions or
anything like you. Wow.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
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Speaker 3 (21:54):
We'll go well, I mean, look at lots of money.
Dion's a calling card and look he can do a
deep dive on the PAC twelve media writes deals signed.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Yet, No do you need do we need to do
a deep dive in the pack too? I mean, really
do they deserve a deep dive, Well they don't.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
They have last team standing.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
They deserve a shallow I can dip my feet in
the pool, and that's where I bring the little kids
because they're in no danger in the water because the
water is only like six inches.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
This is why. Now this is where we keep that's the.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
Is this your homework, Larry Scott? Is this your homework?
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (22:29):
All the university presidents and Larry Scott, that's not there.
Speaker 5 (22:32):
You go.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
This is not my fault. But the biggest story in
the NFL today we watch Sean Payton go on a rant,
ripping former Broncos head coach Nathaniel Hackett and the New
York Jets in a diatribe in which he wanted to
make sure everybody knew that everything the Broncos were doing
is one hundred and eighty degrees different from last year.
(22:55):
And he took on everybody from the public relations department
all the way up to the top, even some people
who were continuing to work with the Broncos. He said, yeah,
things weren't run great. And he went on to say
that watch what happens to the Jets. They tried so
hard to win the off season. Now they're doing hard knocks.
I've seen it happen. He has decided to just take
a blowtorch to the former head coach, the team he's coaching,
(23:18):
and the Jets, for no particular reason other than the
fact he's probably jealous that Rogers the Jets are getting
the attention he and Russell Wilson.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
But they also have Hackett. So if he's going to
attack the shoddy workmanship that you had and the shambles
that he found it, because right, this is this serves
a lot of purposes. It puts Russell Wilson on notice
because he absolved him of any of that stain. The
stink is gone, right, it's it's it's not you, it
was them. It was everybody running everything in the in
(23:47):
the building. All right. He's going to say that publicly,
Behind the scenes, I would guess it's a different tale,
not to Russell directly, but in the well the swirlings
and imaginations of his own own head. But he's also
propping himself up of like, way, do you see how
different it is the way we do things here and
how great we can turn this thing around? But yeah,
(24:09):
the Jets hired Hackett, so he's got to get them.
I mean, they're just collateral damage in the rant, like
they were terrible. It's like, oh, and they hired them,
so they're gonna stink. Yeah, and we're gonna get to
watch it on Hard.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Heart Knocks and doing not yet know he decided I'm
gonna go and make enemies because, hey, I want people
to talk about me more because people are talking about me.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
Hey, he wanted to show he could do a fifteen
minute monologue after his year in the media, like he
was gonna get a grade, like it was a test
or something. Did you hot take enough?
Speaker 1 (24:39):
But let's take this in a little bit of a
different direction. Maybe the more most fun direction is that, look,
does he have a thing against Aaron Rodger and the Jets.
You can't say he doesn't, because why would he take
on the Jets unprompted like this? Right, he has talked
about how he's felt about Rogers's body language, all different things,
comments he had when he was in the media for
the last year. But if you need to know the
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reason to to to to believe, hey, I think Aaron
Rodgers is gonna have another elite level season at quarterback.
Let me just throw this at you an angle of
the the pay cut he took that we didn't really
get into a lot yesterday, right, took a thirty three
million dollar pay cut to stay with the Jets the
next two years. Probably will make that money back some way,
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shape or form over the course the next two to
three years. Right, what's the biggest thing that's happening as
a direct result of that. Dalvin Cook is coming to
visit the Jets this weekend, all right, which which doesn't
make me feel great about Breze Hall. But here comes
Dalvin Cook and we talked about him. Hey, for the
next two years. Dalvin Cook a three down running back.
He can help a lot of teams. Now, he's a
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tough guy to root for. You know, I'm not gonna
I'm not gonna deny it's a tough guy to root for,
with the with the the the domestic situation he's got
and the story's coming out the last few days. But
this is this is a situation that that is more
about Aaron Rodgers than it's about bringing in Dalvin Cook. Because,
like I said, be Honds, he's a tough guy to
root for. But here's Rogers, Right, what do I'm gonna
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take a pay cut so we could go get more players.
How incensed is green Bay right now? Going? Oh, so
now you'll take a pay cut. You hold us hostage
for all that money for the last couple of years,
and now you tell the Jets, hey, man, it's easy.
I'll take a pay cut so we could go sign
more guys and go win championships. If that doesn't tell
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you how unplugged he was in green Bay? Nothing will
you look at the year he had last year and say, oh, man,
look Aaron Rodgers falling off the cliff. No, Rogers was
at the point where he was done with green Bay.
He was done, And I'm sorry. When you're done and
you're done with a team, you don't do the things
you need to do all the way through to win.
You're punching the time clock waiting for something else to happen. So, yeah,
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all of a sudden, Rogers shows up with the Jets
and everything is sunshine, lollipops and rainbows, and here's some
players I want. And I'm staying through. I'm not leaving
for OTAs. I'm coming in early. Everything is good. I
love being here. I'm taking less money he is reinvigorating.
Things just hit, things hit a really bad time and
it was a three year downturn for him and the Packers. No,
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I'm not saying this is Aaron Rodgers' fighty was all
the Packers fault, But for we're talking about Rogers, and
Rogers was definitely done. So the last year when he
had a bad year last year? Yeah, was that really
because the skills fell off a cliff? Right? He really
fall off a cliff? Or was he just done? Now?
This tells you about motivation, and this tells you about
where he's at when things do get to that point.
But right now, it's a honeymoon with the Jets, and
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the Jets do whatever he wants. He loves it. He's
got a team around him that can win. He's got
a great team where he's got a great defense, he's
got a lot of weapons on offense. And things are awesome. Right.
This doesn't tell you Aaron Rodgers ready for bounce back.
And you think last year was a bet, you don't
need to know anything else. And Packers fans right now
are going now he's taking less money. Now, he's taking
less money. This is just so awesome on so many
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different levels.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Yeah, I mean, you look at last year and number
of interceptions were tip balls, So how much of that
is timing that could have been established with some extra
offseason workouts heading in Because the receivers did get better
as the year went on. You talk about a couple
of MVP seasons, all of that, but the team not
the same level as success, and certainly the playoffs have
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not been his friend. Look, this just extends my theory
of either he's a scroll like Gazoo or it goes
back to the all right, my year a here going
to the Jets is a complete rehabilitation of everything. I'm
going to show that I'm still motivated to win. And
I'm going to shut up at all of these and
you and you and you and everybody that was a
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hot take theater. I'm going to shut up all the
people that said they were tired of me in Green Bay,
the folks that wanted to attack me for off field
issues everything else. And I'm going to be the best
tourist and teammate I can possibly be. Maybe found that
moment of clarity in that darkness retreat. I don't judge,
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you don't do even at the time, right everybody's having laughs.
I'm like, I don't know what goes on in there.
If you find someplace that's gonna give It's like you know,
people go to services, people go meditate, people go sit
on the beach and stare at the ocean. It brings
you some level of comfort piece that you can go
into your life, go get it. Seems like he's found
that and it's wrapped in a Jets' logo.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
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the first four games of the season.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
JP, congratulations, well, thank you very much.
Speaker 5 (29:44):
We are going to attack the first four games of
the season with an enthusiasm unknown to mankind.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
There we go. I'm actually done.
Speaker 5 (29:52):
Jaesus Smith, I've got a question for you tonight. My
friend who's got it better than us.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Just remember now, no Hamburg, I am.
Speaker 5 (30:02):
I had a thought and I will admit there are
still I am very much an MLB trade deadline universe
right now, but I am wondering if, if the if
the venerable restaurant called the Little Brown Jug on South
U and ann Arbor is going to uh maybe name
some new Hamburgers an occasion to this and and perhaps
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add even some new revenue streams. So all the name
of commerce, my friends, helping the help with the local economy.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
Yeah, it'll certainly be on a menu as a cheeky
item somewhere in Columbus. I'm sure well.
Speaker 5 (30:37):
That that is certain. The support of the Columbus uh
business community for this burger in question is is very strong. Indeed.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
All right, well, JP, as you you know, as you
are getting ready to moonlight coaching mission, and it's a
very easy four games. I think you'll be fine. Uh
you were there today. You covered game one of the doubleheader,
h Otani. It's a complete game, shutout, two home runs
in the second game. You know, when I was a kid,
I used to read baseball books all the time that
would take you back to certain days in history that
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you just can't believe happened, like Joe Adcock eighteen total
bases in a game. The guy had four home runs
in a double it's a major league record, and certain
things you can't believe happened. I don't know that this
isn't isn't one of the greatest days in the history
of the game. Who's had a day like this? Complete
game shutout in game one of a double letter and
two home runs in game two. You gotta go back
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to like in the late eighteen hundreds if someone did
something like that, be.
Speaker 5 (31:34):
Right and remarkable, and certainly from my perspective, very grateful.
It happened in in Michigan. I was there for Game
one to see it, and just my goodness, I mean,
for him, for Otani to throw the shutout the first
of his career, and then yeah, let's just hit a
couple homers before we call it a day. Matt Manning,
the starter against to me at the homers in game two, said,
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and exactly rest what you're just saying, that that had
to be the greatest day anyone has ever had on
a baseball field. And again, let's whenever we talk about
his historical achievements, and I love the history of the game,
the game has never been better than it is right now.
In terms of the level of competition, the quality of
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the pitching, the inclusiveness of the best players in all
the world playing it. So not only is he doing
this in a way that's never quite been done before,
but he's doing it against the very best competition, and
that to me is as important as anything else to
mention that he is doing this in the best league
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in the world, in the best version of the best
league in the world, and he is dominating it the
way that the best fourteen year old in your town
who was just a head taller than everybody else was
able to do it back in Pony League or senior league,
and show way he is doing it in the best
league in the world. Simply remarkable.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
JP one, I'm really disappointed in myself for not at
least reaching out so you can go finagle me some
ticket stuffs. But the second part to this is well,
I mean, look, I'm a collector and this is historic
stuff we're looking at here, I mean with Shoho Tani,
and it's good that he's staying down the five in
Anaheim a little while longer, and Jason and I were
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talking about it last night, JP, and I'm like, well, now,
will they be buyers further having made a couple of
small moves, and then well they're minutes later speaking it
into existence. The White Sox make that deal with the Angels.
Are they done?
Speaker 5 (33:36):
I don't think either team is done. And as you know,
the White Sox still have some dealing to do. Well,
we'll get to that in the moment. But the Angels,
I was told last night, even after the deals went down,
that they're still trying to acquire Jamber Candelario or another
corner infielder to help. Of course, they've had the Tray
Cabbage has come in and done a really good job
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as a corner infield guy. And I think to your point,
if they're going to leverage yourself all in and obviously
they had the chance to potentially move Otani based on
where things were going, they would have had multiple chances
to take an acceptable offer. But the whole idea of
the organization Mike is to make the playoffs with him,
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and so if that's the case, you go for it,
and when you decide to go for it, you keep
that foot down on the accelerator. That's exactly what the
Angels are doing. I give them credit because this has
become a time in the game's history where gms are
relatively cautious, they are relatively risk averse, not Ferryman Nazi,
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and especially not with the owner Ardi Morino endorsing the move.
So I think it's great for the game, Great for
the fans there. We've heard time and time again the
fans there want to see show A in the playoffs.
Now they get the chance. Actually, this morning before the
first game, I was and the visiting dug out of Comerica Park.
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There was one player there, and that player was Mike Trout.
Trout was talking to me about just how excited he
is and the way that there's such an energy around
the team, knowing what that trade meant last night, knowing
what it means to have showing for the long term.
So this team sweep today. They're playing such great baseball.
They've won what now, nine of eleven games, and so
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the Angels might now be the best version of themselves,
and good for the game, good for the game to
see them playing better. And now the rest of the
American League West is certainly unnoticed.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
All right, JP, Well, let's head up the five Freeway
a little bit to the big story today. Speaking of
Trede deadline. Now that Otani's off the market, the Dodgers
and Cardinals have had conversations about Nolan Aronado. The Dodgers
clearly have everything they need to make this move happen.
It probably should happen. They will pay him, He'll be
their third basement for the next five years. They'll give
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the couple of prospects the Cardinals want. Are the Cardinals
going to pull the trigger? That's the big What are
you hearing about this potential today?
Speaker 5 (36:02):
That is the big question? And certainly the Dodgers still
have some pitching needs, and I want to make that
clear that I do think there's an acceptable deal to
be had there in a compromise, because the Dodgers do
have such tremendous depth of prospects to get this deal done.
So I think the Dodgers' willingness is there. Nolan, I'm
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pretty sure, with a high degree of certainty, will will
approve this deal and take the move to LA It's
his favorite team as a kid. It's a no brainer
for him. But I think the Cardinals have to look
at the big landscape here and see if there's a
way that they can improve their pitching on a level
that they feel comfortable without having to do this deal.
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I believe the Cardinals will try other avenues to upgrade
their pitching by moving other baths, but if they can't
get the pieces they need, the Dodgers are the best
team to go to to get pitching. And I think
with a high degree of certainty deal and this possibility
will be in play until the final hours on Tuesday.
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And do not be surprised if by six pm Eastern
time Nolan Arnoto is back home as a Dodger and
Mike Goodness, what a lineup that would be, joining Freddie Freeman,
Mookie Bets, Will Smith and all the others.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
All our rumor conjecture speculation, the dartboards and photoshopping of
jerseys has begun, JP and Earnest Jason's trying to give
everybody away from the Mets. He's been wearing a sandwich
board for the last several weeks. How much activity do
we see with those extra wildcards, because we've got some
terrible teams like my White Sox, but beyond them and
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Tim Anderson actually hitting the ball well. So if you're
going to sell sell high hitting three ninety five or so.
Since the All Star break. But how many big trades
can we really see or are a lot of teams
going to take the Angels approach of trying to cling
to what playoff life they have.
Speaker 5 (37:57):
Well, it's a great question, and I think one seem
to watch very carefully in one that's been on the
border of buying and selling the San Diego Padres, and
reports increasingly today that they're actually open minded to moving Snell,
potentially open minded to moving Hater and even Juan Soto.
So if that's the case, that opens up a whole
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other layer of possibilities to where Showy stays put. But
if Arnatto and or Soto move all of a sudden,
it becomes a really active deadline. There are a handful
of teams that I think are very clearly sellers. Pierpoint
the White Sox is definitely one of them.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
Ian wants to give everybody, including the parking lot attendant.
Speaker 5 (38:38):
I saw that I saw, and by the way I did,
I saw Ozzy this week on the south side, and
let's put it this way. That was a version of
that statement was also offered to me. So with some
thrown in, exactly I will I will not, So as
were what you saw in the air was the redacted
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version I would describe that, but I would say this
that the Tigers will move some pitching. Michael Lorenzen is
going to move, likely, the White Sox will move in,
probably Tim Anderson, Aaron Bummer, Joe Kelly. They'll move some pieces.
But I do think those teams that are on the
borderline still have an advantage. And in fact, because it's
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such a seller's market, it incentivizes those teams like the
Podres to make that decision to put Moan Soto out there,
to put Blake Snell out there in Josh Hader. Because
as the Angels move into the by column, and even
potentially the Cubs because they've played better of late, it
incentivizes the team those other teams to become legitimate sellers.
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So I think you're going to see a lot of competition.
It's probably going to remain a seller's market until the weekend,
and then, of course it it becomes that pivot point
where on Monday and Tuesday, GM starts saying, wait a minute,
I can save my owner some money by moving this reliever.
Let's do that. So there will usually become that pivot point.
But that's why it's going to be a day's long
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staring contest. And I really think the two names to
watch in the market if you want, if you're rooting
for a blockbuster, talk about Soto, talk about Arnatto. Those
are the two names that I think could really move
a lot of prospects and get a lot of excitement
going on in the industry now that we know the
show is going to stay put.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
All right, JP, let's finish here. If I said to you,
complete the sentence. The big name that you wouldn't be
surprised to see dealt by the deadline, the big name
that maybe we're not talking about on photo, the big
name that you wouldn't be surprised to see move by
the deadline? Who would that be?
Speaker 5 (40:44):
Justin Verlander? And there's been at least some talk, and Jason,
I think you've almost spoken this into existence because you
have been talking to me about this. I've been saying
no chance, no chance. But the giants have some interest
in them. And the big question, and this is where
I wonder about things, Jason, how much of the forty
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three million, yes, forty three million due to him next
year is going to be divvied up potentially if the
Giants are the team, do they do the Mets pay
half and then get themselves a decent prospect, or do
the Giants say no, way, no, how, You're gonna have
to do the Giants they have to pay even more
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than that if you're depending on what kind of prospect
quality you give back and forth. So that to me
is the big thing in the Giants of the team.
Guys that remember they were in there on Judge, they
were in there years ago on Harper, they were in
there on Korea didn't work out. They've got the ability
to add payrolls. So I'm watching the Giants very carefully.
They needed like an eighth level starting pitcher could be
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Justin Verlander if he's ready to waive that no trade
clause and move west.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
You can follow on Twitter at John Morosi. That is
at John Morosi MLB Network Insider and if I get
Verlander moved, dominan insider too. As always, Buddy appreciated. If
something breaks, we'll talk to you and then let us
know how the Michigan football team is looking as you
coach them. As we get into the season.
Speaker 5 (42:08):
Well, I think Donovan Edwards Heisman Trophy candidate. This year.
Mark it down. And if you get Verlander moved, you're
not just a good insider, you're the executive of the year.
Speaker 3 (42:19):
Wow, look at that.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
Digging that. Oh, thank you so much. JP appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (42:25):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
Yeah, oh, look at that. Look at I'm the executive.
Speaker 3 (42:28):
No, no, no, moved. I got fun. That already happened
by getting a deal made for sending card. We talked
to me.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
That is true. That's true.
Speaker 3 (42:36):
And if that's already won, that that award is already
being printed and raped.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
Yeah, but how about Frostburg now going, no, we don't
want Verland. Oh way to go to the giants. Oh no,
we'll get for Lander. We'll get for Lander. Then we'll
get it. We'll get it. We'll get it, We'll get it.
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believe it was Bill Paxton in The Great Aliens from
nineteen eighty six when he was cornered by the Aliens,
he pulled out that gun. He kept saying, you want some,
Come get some. Hey say this tonight, you want some,
Sean Payton, you come get some. We'll see you in
week five. You want some. You want some. To Russell Wilson,
you want some. We'll see you in week five. We'll
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see you week five. That's seventy three days. We will
see you in seventy three days. You want some of
this smoke, Sean Payton, you don't want this smoke. You
wouldn't be talking about how you're changing cultures if things
were going that great in Denver. You don't want the
jet smoke. You gotta sit there and take That's whatever
smoke you have in Denver, that's your smoke. Man. You
don't want our smoke. You don't want this smoke.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Shows you how much being in the media for a
year can rot your damn brain. I need to have
hot takes when I meet with the media. First time.
I'm gonna talk about this gambling policy and what a
pile of blah blah blah. And that was his first
talking boy yesterday. It's like, yeah, hey, Sean, it's like
eleven guys out of sixteen hundred, shut the hell up
(01:55):
and do the math. Okay, everybody else figured it out.
Those eleven guys dumb. Okay, everybody else figured out the policy.
As for today, Yeah, man, you just what do you
want to do. What do you want to talk about? Well,
I'm gonna tell you what a miserable operation it was.
I mean, this sounds like Doc Rivers absolving Blake Griffin
(02:17):
of all blamed. It's not Blake's fault. Right, For years,
we've been playing that quote said taking Oh no, no,
Russell's my guy. I mean, it wasn't him. Never mind
the office on the second floor, never mind all the
people in the room, and that we had open access
to everything around him. No, no, no, it was all
hackets fault. Let's just pick fights. Yeah, I love it.
(02:39):
It's good for business, good for hot take nonsense. Just
remember you're in the AFC West. You're in for a
year of hell. Good luck.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
You think he's sitting around right now, going, oh, I'm
not in the media anymore. Oh, this is not going
over how I thought it was going over because he
looks awful after this. He looks so awful and so
low class. I can't even tell you.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Well, the other part of it, Jason, is that he
in doing all this. It's like you went into broadcasting
because you just won three Super Bowls and it wasn't
a challenge anymore. Last I remember Drew Brees' kid couldn't
walk when he was holding them up with the earphones.
When they actually won the Super Bowl, that's a lifetime ago.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
This he looks terrible. He looks absolutely awful because he broke.
He broke kind of the unwritten rule of coaches don't
really rip other coaches, right they just don't do that,
the brotherhood of coaches, they just don't do it. Right now,
I'm not saying he shouldn't have done it. I'm not here.
He looks Say what you want to say, be who
you want to be.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
I appreciate what you giving us.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
That's great. Say what you want to say, and and
that's fine, but understand that you don't get freedom from responsibility.
You know, I've said what I said. No, no, no,
Now everybody else gets to say what they want to say.
And you look terrible. You look like you're bitter, and
you know what, Honestly, he looks like he's jealous. He
looks like he's jealous that Aaron Rodgers and the Jets
(04:07):
are getting all this attention in the offseason. And he
has gone on record not liking Aaron Rodgers body language.
Things going on that whole year in the media all
last year in Green Bay. He looks like he is jealous.
He doesn't like Aaron Rodgers, and he's jealous that of
all the attention the Jets are getting. Every single day
it's a Jets headline. Are the Jets gonna do hard knocks?
(04:27):
Are they not? He talks about all the Jets doing
hard I've seen that with teams before the NFL made
the Jets do it. The Jets didn't say yes, The
Jets didn't say, hey, we volunteer with that first team. No,
they made them do it right. He's reinventing things as
he goes along because he's mad. Because he's mad that
why am I not getting the attention taking over here
in Denver as I try to redo Russell Wilson's career.
(04:49):
I mean, that's exactly what it looks like. Wait a minute,
Why are you not talking about me? Why? Why? Wait? Wait?
Did all this Jets say, I'll tell you we're doing
everything different this year in Denver than Nathaniel Hackett did.
He blowed torched everybody today in the interview he did
about how the Broncos were run last year, how from
the top of the organization down. I think he had
got in the public relationship and he just torched and
(05:12):
a lot of people still work in the building that
he torched that he was so mad about. And I'm
saying to myself, what is his purpose here? What is
his purpose? Because he looks jealous and it looks like
I want to get this narrative out there that we're
changing things, that things need to be changed. Why is
that narrative out there? If things are going okay? Right,
that's the two biggest things. He's jealous and why does
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he have to do this if things are going okay?
Cause things are going okay in Denver and you're gonna
win a lot of games, and Russell Wilson looks great,
and the offense looks great, and you love Jerry Judy
and Courtland Sutton, everything you got going on. Hey, we
got healthy running backs coming back. Hey, we're If you're
feeling like that, you are just doing your thing and
you're going to hit the regular season, start winning, and
that's when things start falling your way. Hey, look at
(05:56):
this job Sean Payton is doing. Denver's getting a lot
of attention, But right now he is trying to pick
up Russell Wilson's career from the scrap heap. If it
was going well, if things are going well in Denver,
then would he would be silent? He would not be seen.
He would not feel the need to go on a
podcast and light up the organization and say, last year,
we are doing things right, which is what Sean Payton did. Oh,
(06:17):
by the way, just to give you a quick recap
a recent podcast Sean Payton did talking about how the
Broncos are doing everything one hundred and eighty degrees differently
from how things are done last year under Nathaniel Hackett.
Everything is different. Russell Wilson's people aren't in the building.
He blamed everybody from the public relations apartment up to
the top of the of the food chain that they
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did things the wrong way. Now they're doing it the
right way. And he also said, wait and see what
happens to the Jets, who, oh, by the way, happened
to have Nathaniel Hackett as their offensive coordinator. I've seen
teams try to win the offseason like the Jets have.
They're doing hard knocks. I've seen how this goes. He
decided to take a blowtorch today because he's jealous and
things aren't going well, because I guarantee you if things were,
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he wouldn't be doing this, He wouldn't have done what
he's done over the last couple of days.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Yeah, I would say that. There's a couple of pieces
to it for me, is you know he had gotten
a lot of celebration and fanfare upon his hiring, right,
because we can all agree, and Peyton's not saying anything
we didn't all last year in terms of the clown
show that was being perpetrated, going back to opening night
in that game against Seattle, right and your quarterback, and
(07:29):
I put a lot of it on Russell Wilson, just
like I had on Rogers, not overruling Lafloor, saying look,
I've been here, I've done this, I've won. That kicker
stays on the damn sidelines, give me my chance, Look
at my history, here's my resume, all of those things.
But he's been very clear about changing up. We used
(07:49):
the word culture a bit loosely in all this, but yeah,
changing up how business is operating. Talk about all those
extra people around, talk about media not being part of training. Right,
no live radio shows, no live TV hits, whatever, You're
not there to do that stuff during Sean Payton's regime,
(08:09):
wondering how much of a distraction whatever else. Just you're
gonna play by these different rules. The other part is
this is the I'm going to put you on a pedestal,
Russell Wilson, because right now I'm telling you I'm a
great coach and anything that fails is your fault. I'm
a wizard. It seems like, so it is your fault
(08:29):
if this blows.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Ready, he's already backing away from making from any kind
of achievements or things are going to be great this year,
right Like it's I'm backing, like I'm backing away from
this because I'm just brought in. And if Russell Wilson fails, hey,
that's a mark on me because I've always done well
with every quarterback I've ever had. And like, look, I
don't see there being any other reason why you would
(08:52):
say this unless you were trying to get a narrative
out there early before anybody really gets into seeing practice
in the summer. And here, hey, Russell Wilson was really inaccurate. Boy,
Russell Wilson was throwing the ball over guy's heads. Russell
Wilson had three interceptions in a seven on seven drill today,
and he seems like, I want to get this out
there before anything else goes on. Hey, Sean Payton's saying,
I had to make a lot of changes. Things were really,
(09:13):
really bad and I had to make a lot of changes.
This is usually what you get from a coach when
he feels like he's going to be fired, where it's hey,
you know it's been three years now, and the coach says, well,
there was a lot that I had to take care
of when I took over that people don't know about.
I mean there there's lots of things that happened that
I had to come in and then sweep to the side.
It took a little bit longer than we thought, and
(09:34):
you know, I thought it would take less time. But
we're still in a great track. And really, I just
don't want to get fired. And I want you to
think that other things. I'm dealing with a lot of things.
I want you to know I'm dealing with a lot
of things. I'm doing it differently. I'm great. Don't let
any narrative take you the other way, because remember I'm great.
I'm the great one. I'm Sean Payton, I'm greatly because.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
If it works, I'm a wizard, right, you saw how
terrible it was last year, So if it works, I
want to make sure I get my credit. Meanwhile, I've
also said enough to where I'm pointing directly at Russell
and saying it's on you, you know, to make me
look good. I'm gonna get all the credit. I want
all the credit for turning this organization around. But let's
(10:15):
face it, if it fails, you're You're part of the
problem now, Russ, because I'm a wizard and nobody beats me.
And that's that's where he's headed with all of this,
and the old Duth protests too much, and look, it's
all calculated. We get this Peyton planning his seeds and
he did the thing you know about the gambling rules
(10:37):
after a player got suspended from his squad. All of
these things, it's it's to make sure I check all
the boxes to show you I'm the smartest guy in
the room. And he might be right, him and Sean McVay,
we could we could have a Quest Bowl for charity,
who's the smarter guy and Kevin James is the host.
But we have that as we roll into this season,
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you're in a tough division. I don't know if you
necessarily grasp that in the process, because as bad as
they were, they weren't exactly you know, playing against the
you know, the lightweights or in one of the very
easily uh contested and winnable divisions takes nothing away from
how poor they were and all the organizational stuff we
(11:22):
heard about, right a quality control coach coming in right
away after early failures on down distance and getting plays in,
you know, looking for the perfect play. All that stuff. Uh,
there was. It was just a a litany of stuff.
But I thought it was funny because I don't I
forget it was the Denver Post or one of the
publications there. Over the last couple of days, Jason I
(11:43):
saw scroll through my timeline. Uh, they're enjoying a quiet
off season and training camp. Start with the spotlights somewhere else.
That was the headline that they had New York with
all the running backs whatever else.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
I nope, nope, look at me. Look just think about
this for a second when I talk about how how
low class this was from Sean Payton, Tell me the
last time you heard an NFL head coach say, Hey,
the guy that was here last year was terrible. And
the new team he's on right now, they're gonna fail
(12:21):
to tell me the last time you've heard a coach
say anything like that? They just don't, well what beside
Sean Payton. But now we got to know what the
beef is. When's the last time beef? Hey, you want
a beef with Robert Salad? Robert Salah will kick his
ass in a fight, Robert Salad. If text the one thing,
if it was like coaches in fist fights to win games,
like the Jets would be undefeated, like Robert say, be
(12:43):
seventeen to.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Oho oh, we get a lot of that slap fights
and hey, I didn't like the way you coached here
here here and you know, yeah whatever. But but it's
never personal attacks, right, so perituation, it's.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Unprompted, and it's under there's it's not like someone saying
something or there's whispers out of New York. Hey, I
don't know what's going.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
With the saying good luck with that side. The picture
of Russell Wilson with a smiley fan left it on
the desk, Hey, good luck with this guy.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
Jason Salah had the chance to fight back today and
you know what he did. He didn't. Yeah, he looks
so he's not kicking anybody's office.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Solah took the high road, man, Solah took that, which
is fine. You will see you when we can. He
had no comeback. We'll see you when we like. No,
you had a great comeback. Do we have his comeback?
You got it ready? No play his comeback?
Speaker 4 (13:28):
Look, come on, Ert Solomon.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
He had What else are we doing?
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Oh no, no? Yeah, I mean outside of no Otani
with a complete game and two home runs.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
Yeah, I'll tell you that. I'm rooting for Week five Jets.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Baby, Yeah, you bet where your new legacy Jets Aaron
Rodgers jersey that's coming out. You don't see this. You
don't see any coach ever saying this. And it's it's
not like he had any kind of history with Nathaniel Hackett.
It's not like there was off season war of words
going back and forth. He decided, unprompted, Yeah, I want
(14:03):
to tell you what I think about the Jets this year. Wow.
I mean, hey, if he ever gets fired, which could happen,
if he has a bad year, I'd worry about my
job now because he can go on the radio and
gives some hot takes. Man, that gives a big time stuff.
That's what I worry about, man, Sean Payton getting a
job in sports talk radio, because if he's doing that
as a head coach, oh man, he'll just let it
fly even more as a radio host.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Tell you what. Hanging around with people at Fox for
a year. Look what happened.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
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Sean Payton, I'm sorry that Robert Sala and Aaron Rodgers
are getting old the attention that you and a Russell
Wilson are doing. I'm so sorry.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Sound pretty sad about it. Get the work done in
the dark. I mean, did you know? I mean, look,
I'm glad he didn't. You know, just genu Fleck like
everybody else's Oh look at this, he completed an eight
yard in route. Yeah great, I don't need you see
that littering my timeline. I'm muting everybody that retweets that crap.
(15:05):
Stay to a training camp, for crying out loud.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Stop it seventy three days till week five. We'll see
you that. It'd be two opening weeks for the Jets.
There's opening week and then there's week five. It's gonna
be awesome, It's fantastic.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
Well, dude, do you realize one week from tonight you
guys play two.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Yeah a night.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
It's gonna be another month before Aaron Rodgers actually takes all.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
Zach Wilson's been making some throws.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Man's making job. It looks good. He's making Aaron Rodgers job.
Health Wait, we could have a quarterback controversy on our hands.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
Get ready, I mean better than Rogers?
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Come on, Aaron Rodgers threw that sidearm touchdown to Garrett
Wilson two days ago and the Jets win total jumped
from nine to fourteen.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Come on, man, No, that thing like had magical pixie
dust on it. Man, the way it was spinning the
perfect rotation.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
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Speaker 1 (15:58):
We got into show a few minutes ago, and we're
gonna we're gonna get into back into the biggest story
out of the NFL in a couple of seconds. But
we have John Paul Morosi coming up in about twenty minutes,
and it looks like the Dodgers could be moving towards
another trade. They make a good trade bringing back Keike Hernandez,
(16:19):
who always played well in LA. They make a better
trade giving up basically nothing for I'm at Rosario, who's
gonna help the Dodgers, yeah right away, as a solid player.
They gave up a guy that they could have waived
and no one would pick up in Cindergarten.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
I do feel bad that this is where we're at
with Cindergarten.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Like, I don't feel bad. The guy's staying because he's
throwing seventy two miles an hour now and that's his fastball.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Come on, that man has a family. Come on, just
like that baseball that was hit the other day. Come on,
you know, let baseball had a family.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Hey, I'm old enough to remember Noah Sindergard saying, oh,
I'd be very happy to get the Mets qualifying offer
and take it for eighteen million dollars. And as soon
as the Angels came with twenty million, he said nope,
I'm going to the Angels. Uh dude, you you know what,
you made that decision, and the team that had the
most invested in you you decided to walk away from. Yeah,
you you basically just shorten your career.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Oh yeah, no, that's you, bitter Mets fans. I'm talking
to me as as a human humanitarian. I'm a man
of the people. I wrap everybody in a big hug.
And look, obviously he's talking you do I do too.
Stop with that, I do too.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Sometimes your hug is like a bear where you squeeze
a life out of people just to get that.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Back watch wrestling growing up, that's you. You really have
to feel it, you feel the love. But no, for
sinder Guard, the fact that you were able to make
a deal, I mean, look, that's wizardry man. We're talking
about aliens the last couple of days and stuff. I mean,
that's just absolute sorcery, Jedi mind tricks.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
I don't understand how the Guardian said, yes, we want
no Syndergard. I don't get it. But now they could
be making another move and we'll find out just the
possibility of this, as that the Dodgers and the Cardinals
have been talking about Nolan Arenado, the Cardinals having a
horrible season. Ronado has doing a lot of money for
(18:10):
the next few years. And I see this trade happen.
And you know, you and I have actually talked about.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
This in the long time.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Weeks. Yeah, you know about Hey, Aronado would be a
great fit. He's someone that the Dodgers would sign and
he would be their third basement for the next five years.
They would take on his money, no problem, Yo, you
do that. Yeah, that's fine. By the time, with thirty
five thirty six, your contracts a little bit lower. But
Aronado has done nothing but continue to rake even as
he left Colorado. You all the dogs he nerk. Can
(18:38):
he still do it in Saint Louis. He's not in
Quartsfield anymore. No, the guy is still hitting. The guy
is still one of the best third basemen you've seen.
He would fit right in. The Dodgers have a couple
of prospects. I'm sure if they want this deal to happen,
this deal will happen, and you could slot him in
there at third base next be like getting Freddy Freeman. Hey,
this is terrific. He's thirty two years old. We're gonna
slot him in there for the next three or four years.
(19:00):
The same thing will happen with Nolan Aronado, and the
Dodgers should make this happen hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Yeah, I mean we remember all the talk here locally,
right broadcasting from LA. Hello, everybody, am five to seventy
LA Sports with us tonight, because I mean, certainly everybody
gets excited when the big names start getting bandied about
all the expectations because they're still waiting for a parade
to just bring Otani and his stuff up the five
this offseason. But in the interim, all right, what else
(19:26):
is out there? What else is available in what looks
to be a bit of a seller's market because you
have so many teams still contending, the Cardinals going through
one of the rare disastrous seasons given the history of
this squad. But remember when it looked like he was
headed to free agency before he signed that monster deal
(19:48):
to stay in Colorado, and we were seeing the mockups
of jerseys for him here already, right, people were excited
He's coming to town like Santa Claus. And now that
may actually come to fruition, and for many fans pundits,
now it's a question of all right, what is a
trade that makes this happen? Because you see Bobby Miller's
(20:10):
name mentioned, and I've seen some reaction. I've seen it
in the blogs and then the messageboards that folks are
a little excitable not wanting to see him be part
of a deal. It's like, hey, you know what, take
take the other young pitchers that you've seen glimpses of
this year, some guys that have been part of of
what this team has begun to build here as we
(20:32):
get towards the stretch run. But to think about Arnatto
joining this already loaded roster and Freddie Freeman, Mookie Bleeping Bets,
who we celebrate every chance we get, you know, throwing
guys out and what he does at the plate. Yeah,
it's it's exciting stuff. And for the Cardinals just a rare,
(20:52):
rare circumstance of all right, you got you gotta swallow
a little bit of pride and recognize this is better
for your long term.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Yeah, I mean it should happen. The Dodgers have enough,
they will take the contract, They have the prospects whatever,
I mean, they have enough. It should happen. But we'll
find out from John Paul Morosi coming up in a
few minutes. Where things are at last time, we get
talked to JP before the trade deadline, so we'll get
the latest on here and what could happen with some
other teams making moves.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Michigan suspending Jim Harbaugh.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Yeah he JP may be the head coach of the
football team for the first four guns now.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
PJ. Fleck is trying to deflex stuff. The Conference of problems,
the Conference of scandals. It's nothing conference of champions or
anything like you. Wow.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
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Speaker 3 (21:54):
We'll go well, I mean, look at lots of money.
Dion's a calling card and look he can do a
deep dive on the PAC twelve media writes deals signed.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Yet, No do you need do we need to do
a deep dive in the pack too? I mean, really
do they deserve a deep dive, Well they don't.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
They have last team standing.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
They deserve a shallow I can dip my feet in
the pool, and that's where I bring the little kids
because they're in no danger in the water because the
water is only like six inches.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
This is why. Now this is where we keep that's the.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
Is this your homework, Larry Scott? Is this your homework?
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (22:29):
All the university presidents and Larry Scott, that's not there.
Speaker 5 (22:32):
You go.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
This is not my fault. But the biggest story in
the NFL today we watch Sean Payton go on a rant,
ripping former Broncos head coach Nathaniel Hackett and the New
York Jets in a diatribe in which he wanted to
make sure everybody knew that everything the Broncos were doing
is one hundred and eighty degrees different from last year.
(22:55):
And he took on everybody from the public relations department
all the way up to the top, even some people
who were continuing to work with the Broncos. He said, yeah,
things weren't run great. And he went on to say
that watch what happens to the Jets. They tried so
hard to win the off season. Now they're doing hard knocks.
I've seen it happen. He has decided to just take
a blowtorch to the former head coach, the team he's coaching,
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and the Jets, for no particular reason other than the
fact he's probably jealous that Rogers the Jets are getting
the attention he and Russell Wilson.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
But they also have Hackett. So if he's going to
attack the shoddy workmanship that you had and the shambles
that he found it, because right, this is this serves
a lot of purposes. It puts Russell Wilson on notice
because he absolved him of any of that stain. The
stink is gone, right, it's it's it's not you, it
was them. It was everybody running everything in the in
(23:47):
the building. All right. He's going to say that publicly,
Behind the scenes, I would guess it's a different tale,
not to Russell directly, but in the well the swirlings
and imaginations of his own own head. But he's also
propping himself up of like, way, do you see how
different it is the way we do things here and
how great we can turn this thing around? But yeah,
(24:09):
the Jets hired Hackett, so he's got to get them.
I mean, they're just collateral damage in the rant, like
they were terrible. It's like, oh, and they hired them,
so they're gonna stink. Yeah, and we're gonna get to
watch it on Hard.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Heart Knocks and doing not yet know he decided I'm
gonna go and make enemies because, hey, I want people
to talk about me more because people are talking about me.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
Hey, he wanted to show he could do a fifteen
minute monologue after his year in the media, like he
was gonna get a grade, like it was a test
or something. Did you hot take enough?
Speaker 1 (24:39):
But let's take this in a little bit of a
different direction. Maybe the more most fun direction is that, look,
does he have a thing against Aaron Rodger and the Jets.
You can't say he doesn't, because why would he take
on the Jets unprompted like this? Right, he has talked
about how he's felt about Rogers's body language, all different things,
comments he had when he was in the media for
the last year. But if you need to know the
(25:00):
reason to to to to believe, hey, I think Aaron
Rodgers is gonna have another elite level season at quarterback.
Let me just throw this at you an angle of
the the pay cut he took that we didn't really
get into a lot yesterday, right, took a thirty three
million dollar pay cut to stay with the Jets the
next two years. Probably will make that money back some way,
(25:20):
shape or form over the course the next two to
three years. Right, what's the biggest thing that's happening as
a direct result of that. Dalvin Cook is coming to
visit the Jets this weekend, all right, which which doesn't
make me feel great about Breze Hall. But here comes
Dalvin Cook and we talked about him. Hey, for the
next two years. Dalvin Cook a three down running back.
He can help a lot of teams. Now, he's a
(25:41):
tough guy to root for. You know, I'm not gonna
I'm not gonna deny it's a tough guy to root for,
with the with the the the domestic situation he's got
and the story's coming out the last few days. But
this is this is a situation that that is more
about Aaron Rodgers than it's about bringing in Dalvin Cook. Because,
like I said, be Honds, he's a tough guy to
root for. But here's Rogers, Right, what do I'm gonna
(26:01):
take a pay cut so we could go get more players.
How incensed is green Bay right now? Going? Oh, so
now you'll take a pay cut. You hold us hostage
for all that money for the last couple of years,
and now you tell the Jets, hey, man, it's easy.
I'll take a pay cut so we could go sign
more guys and go win championships. If that doesn't tell
(26:22):
you how unplugged he was in green Bay? Nothing will
you look at the year he had last year and say, oh, man,
look Aaron Rodgers falling off the cliff. No, Rogers was
at the point where he was done with green Bay.
He was done, And I'm sorry. When you're done and
you're done with a team, you don't do the things
you need to do all the way through to win.
You're punching the time clock waiting for something else to happen. So, yeah,
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all of a sudden, Rogers shows up with the Jets
and everything is sunshine, lollipops and rainbows, and here's some
players I want. And I'm staying through. I'm not leaving
for OTAs. I'm coming in early. Everything is good. I
love being here. I'm taking less money he is reinvigorating.
Things just hit, things hit a really bad time and
it was a three year downturn for him and the Packers. No,
(27:06):
I'm not saying this is Aaron Rodgers' fighty was all
the Packers fault, But for we're talking about Rogers, and
Rogers was definitely done. So the last year when he
had a bad year last year? Yeah, was that really
because the skills fell off a cliff? Right? He really
fall off a cliff? Or was he just done? Now?
This tells you about motivation, and this tells you about
where he's at when things do get to that point.
But right now, it's a honeymoon with the Jets, and
(27:28):
the Jets do whatever he wants. He loves it. He's
got a team around him that can win. He's got
a great team where he's got a great defense, he's
got a lot of weapons on offense. And things are awesome. Right.
This doesn't tell you Aaron Rodgers ready for bounce back.
And you think last year was a bet, you don't
need to know anything else. And Packers fans right now
are going now he's taking less money. Now, he's taking
less money. This is just so awesome on so many
(27:50):
different levels.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Yeah, I mean, you look at last year and number
of interceptions were tip balls, So how much of that
is timing that could have been established with some extra
offseason workouts heading in Because the receivers did get better
as the year went on. You talk about a couple
of MVP seasons, all of that, but the team not
the same level as success, and certainly the playoffs have
(28:12):
not been his friend. Look, this just extends my theory
of either he's a scroll like Gazoo or it goes
back to the all right, my year a here going
to the Jets is a complete rehabilitation of everything. I'm
going to show that I'm still motivated to win. And
I'm going to shut up at all of these and
you and you and you and everybody that was a
(28:34):
hot take theater. I'm going to shut up all the
people that said they were tired of me in Green Bay,
the folks that wanted to attack me for off field
issues everything else. And I'm going to be the best
tourist and teammate I can possibly be. Maybe found that
moment of clarity in that darkness retreat. I don't judge,
(28:55):
you don't do even at the time, right everybody's having laughs.
I'm like, I don't know what goes on in there.
If you find someplace that's gonna give It's like you know,
people go to services, people go meditate, people go sit
on the beach and stare at the ocean. It brings
you some level of comfort piece that you can go
into your life, go get it. Seems like he's found
that and it's wrapped in a Jets' logo.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
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MLB Network insider John Morosi, who very soon will be
starting his new job as interim Michigan football coach for
(29:38):
the first four games of the season.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
JP, congratulations, well, thank you very much.
Speaker 5 (29:44):
We are going to attack the first four games of
the season with an enthusiasm unknown to mankind.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
There we go. I'm actually done.
Speaker 5 (29:52):
Jaesus Smith, I've got a question for you tonight. My
friend who's got it better than us.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Just remember now, no Hamburg, I am.
Speaker 5 (30:02):
I had a thought and I will admit there are
still I am very much an MLB trade deadline universe
right now, but I am wondering if, if the if
the venerable restaurant called the Little Brown Jug on South
U and ann Arbor is going to uh maybe name
some new Hamburgers an occasion to this and and perhaps
(30:25):
add even some new revenue streams. So all the name
of commerce, my friends, helping the help with the local economy.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
Yeah, it'll certainly be on a menu as a cheeky
item somewhere in Columbus. I'm sure well.
Speaker 5 (30:37):
That that is certain. The support of the Columbus uh
business community for this burger in question is is very strong. Indeed.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
All right, well, JP, as you you know, as you
are getting ready to moonlight coaching mission, and it's a
very easy four games. I think you'll be fine. Uh
you were there today. You covered game one of the doubleheader,
h Otani. It's a complete game, shutout, two home runs
in the second game. You know, when I was a kid,
I used to read baseball books all the time that
would take you back to certain days in history that
(31:09):
you just can't believe happened, like Joe Adcock eighteen total
bases in a game. The guy had four home runs
in a double it's a major league record, and certain
things you can't believe happened. I don't know that this
isn't isn't one of the greatest days in the history
of the game. Who's had a day like this? Complete
game shutout in game one of a double letter and
two home runs in game two. You gotta go back
(31:30):
to like in the late eighteen hundreds if someone did
something like that, be.
Speaker 5 (31:34):
Right and remarkable, and certainly from my perspective, very grateful.
It happened in in Michigan. I was there for Game
one to see it, and just my goodness, I mean,
for him, for Otani to throw the shutout the first
of his career, and then yeah, let's just hit a
couple homers before we call it a day. Matt Manning,
the starter against to me at the homers in game two, said,
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and exactly rest what you're just saying, that that had
to be the greatest day anyone has ever had on
a baseball field. And again, let's whenever we talk about
his historical achievements, and I love the history of the game,
the game has never been better than it is right now.
In terms of the level of competition, the quality of
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the pitching, the inclusiveness of the best players in all
the world playing it. So not only is he doing
this in a way that's never quite been done before,
but he's doing it against the very best competition, and
that to me is as important as anything else to
mention that he is doing this in the best league
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in the world, in the best version of the best
league in the world, and he is dominating it the
way that the best fourteen year old in your town
who was just a head taller than everybody else was
able to do it back in Pony League or senior league,
and show way he is doing it in the best
league in the world. Simply remarkable.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
JP one, I'm really disappointed in myself for not at
least reaching out so you can go finagle me some
ticket stuffs. But the second part to this is well,
I mean, look, I'm a collector and this is historic
stuff we're looking at here, I mean with Shoho Tani,
and it's good that he's staying down the five in
Anaheim a little while longer, and Jason and I were
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talking about it last night, JP, and I'm like, well, now,
will they be buyers further having made a couple of
small moves, and then well they're minutes later speaking it
into existence. The White Sox make that deal with the Angels.
Are they done?
Speaker 5 (33:36):
I don't think either team is done. And as you know,
the White Sox still have some dealing to do. Well,
we'll get to that in the moment. But the Angels,
I was told last night, even after the deals went down,
that they're still trying to acquire Jamber Candelario or another
corner infielder to help. Of course, they've had the Tray
Cabbage has come in and done a really good job
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as a corner infield guy. And I think to your point,
if they're going to leverage yourself all in and obviously
they had the chance to potentially move Otani based on
where things were going, they would have had multiple chances
to take an acceptable offer. But the whole idea of
the organization Mike is to make the playoffs with him,
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and so if that's the case, you go for it,
and when you decide to go for it, you keep
that foot down on the accelerator. That's exactly what the
Angels are doing. I give them credit because this has
become a time in the game's history where gms are
relatively cautious, they are relatively risk averse, not Ferryman Nazi,
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and especially not with the owner Ardi Morino endorsing the move.
So I think it's great for the game, Great for
the fans there. We've heard time and time again the
fans there want to see show A in the playoffs.
Now they get the chance. Actually, this morning before the
first game, I was and the visiting dug out of Comerica Park.
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There was one player there, and that player was Mike Trout.
Trout was talking to me about just how excited he
is and the way that there's such an energy around
the team, knowing what that trade meant last night, knowing
what it means to have showing for the long term.
So this team sweep today. They're playing such great baseball.
They've won what now, nine of eleven games, and so
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the Angels might now be the best version of themselves,
and good for the game, good for the game to
see them playing better. And now the rest of the
American League West is certainly unnoticed.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
All right, JP, Well, let's head up the five Freeway
a little bit to the big story today. Speaking of
Trede deadline. Now that Otani's off the market, the Dodgers
and Cardinals have had conversations about Nolan Aronado. The Dodgers
clearly have everything they need to make this move happen.
It probably should happen. They will pay him, He'll be
their third basement for the next five years. They'll give
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the couple of prospects the Cardinals want. Are the Cardinals
going to pull the trigger? That's the big What are
you hearing about this potential today?
Speaker 5 (36:02):
That is the big question? And certainly the Dodgers still
have some pitching needs, and I want to make that
clear that I do think there's an acceptable deal to
be had there in a compromise, because the Dodgers do
have such tremendous depth of prospects to get this deal done.
So I think the Dodgers' willingness is there. Nolan, I'm
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pretty sure, with a high degree of certainty, will will
approve this deal and take the move to LA It's
his favorite team as a kid. It's a no brainer
for him. But I think the Cardinals have to look
at the big landscape here and see if there's a
way that they can improve their pitching on a level
that they feel comfortable without having to do this deal.
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I believe the Cardinals will try other avenues to upgrade
their pitching by moving other baths, but if they can't
get the pieces they need, the Dodgers are the best
team to go to to get pitching. And I think
with a high degree of certainty deal and this possibility
will be in play until the final hours on Tuesday.
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And do not be surprised if by six pm Eastern
time Nolan Arnoto is back home as a Dodger and
Mike Goodness, what a lineup that would be, joining Freddie Freeman,
Mookie Bets, Will Smith and all the others.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
All our rumor conjecture speculation, the dartboards and photoshopping of
jerseys has begun, JP and Earnest Jason's trying to give
everybody away from the Mets. He's been wearing a sandwich
board for the last several weeks. How much activity do
we see with those extra wildcards, because we've got some
terrible teams like my White Sox, but beyond them and
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Tim Anderson actually hitting the ball well. So if you're
going to sell sell high hitting three ninety five or so.
Since the All Star break. But how many big trades
can we really see or are a lot of teams
going to take the Angels approach of trying to cling
to what playoff life they have.
Speaker 5 (37:57):
Well, it's a great question, and I think one seem
to watch very carefully in one that's been on the
border of buying and selling the San Diego Padres, and
reports increasingly today that they're actually open minded to moving Snell,
potentially open minded to moving Hater and even Juan Soto.
So if that's the case, that opens up a whole
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other layer of possibilities to where Showy stays put. But
if Arnatto and or Soto move all of a sudden,
it becomes a really active deadline. There are a handful
of teams that I think are very clearly sellers. Pierpoint
the White Sox is definitely one of them.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
Ian wants to give everybody, including the parking lot attendant.
Speaker 5 (38:38):
I saw that I saw, and by the way I did,
I saw Ozzy this week on the south side, and
let's put it this way. That was a version of
that statement was also offered to me. So with some
thrown in, exactly I will I will not, So as
were what you saw in the air was the redacted
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version I would describe that, but I would say this
that the Tigers will move some pitching. Michael Lorenzen is
going to move, likely, the White Sox will move in,
probably Tim Anderson, Aaron Bummer, Joe Kelly. They'll move some pieces.
But I do think those teams that are on the
borderline still have an advantage. And in fact, because it's
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such a seller's market, it incentivizes those teams like the
Podres to make that decision to put Moan Soto out there,
to put Blake Snell out there in Josh Hader. Because
as the Angels move into the by column, and even
potentially the Cubs because they've played better of late, it
incentivizes the team those other teams to become legitimate sellers.
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So I think you're going to see a lot of competition.
It's probably going to remain a seller's market until the weekend,
and then, of course it it becomes that pivot point
where on Monday and Tuesday, GM starts saying, wait a minute,
I can save my owner some money by moving this reliever.
Let's do that. So there will usually become that pivot point.
But that's why it's going to be a day's long
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staring contest. And I really think the two names to
watch in the market if you want, if you're rooting
for a blockbuster, talk about Soto, talk about Arnatto. Those
are the two names that I think could really move
a lot of prospects and get a lot of excitement
going on in the industry now that we know the
show is going to stay put.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
All right, JP, let's finish here. If I said to you,
complete the sentence. The big name that you wouldn't be
surprised to see dealt by the deadline, the big name
that maybe we're not talking about on photo, the big
name that you wouldn't be surprised to see move by
the deadline? Who would that be?
Speaker 5 (40:44):
Justin Verlander? And there's been at least some talk, and Jason,
I think you've almost spoken this into existence because you
have been talking to me about this. I've been saying
no chance, no chance. But the giants have some interest
in them. And the big question, and this is where
I wonder about things, Jason, how much of the forty
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three million, yes, forty three million due to him next
year is going to be divvied up potentially if the
Giants are the team, do they do the Mets pay
half and then get themselves a decent prospect, or do
the Giants say no, way, no, how, You're gonna have
to do the Giants they have to pay even more
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than that if you're depending on what kind of prospect
quality you give back and forth. So that to me
is the big thing in the Giants of the team.
Guys that remember they were in there on Judge, they
were in there years ago on Harper, they were in
there on Korea didn't work out. They've got the ability
to add payrolls. So I'm watching the Giants very carefully.
They needed like an eighth level starting pitcher could be
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Justin Verlander if he's ready to waive that no trade
clause and move west.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
You can follow on Twitter at John Morosi. That is
at John Morosi MLB Network Insider and if I get
Verlander moved, dominan insider too. As always, Buddy appreciated. If
something breaks, we'll talk to you and then let us
know how the Michigan football team is looking as you
coach them. As we get into the season.
Speaker 5 (42:08):
Well, I think Donovan Edwards Heisman Trophy candidate. This year.
Mark it down. And if you get Verlander moved, you're
not just a good insider, you're the executive of the year.
Speaker 3 (42:19):
Wow, look at that.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
Digging that. Oh, thank you so much. JP appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (42:25):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
Yeah, oh, look at that. Look at I'm the executive.
Speaker 3 (42:28):
No, no, no, moved. I got fun. That already happened
by getting a deal made for sending card. We talked
to me.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
That is true. That's true.
Speaker 3 (42:36):
And if that's already won, that that award is already
being printed and raped.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
Yeah, but how about Frostburg now going, no, we don't
want Verland. Oh way to go to the giants. Oh no,
we'll get for Lander. We'll get for Lander. Then we'll
get it. We'll get it. We'll get it, We'll get it.
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