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Speaker 1 (00:29):
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Speaker 3 (00:52):
Should be well.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Yes, Trade deadline day in Major League Baseball, deadline day
for the PAC twelve to stay a conference. Then, uh,
who we got the fire? That was the US women's
national team coming off of the midnight experience still had
last night.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
That was a late night experience. I wish I'd slept through.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Hmmm, well it gave you better stuff that we can
talk about tonight as well, especially when I was grossly overtired,
so I got grumpier about the more we sat and watched.
You could have been on the broadcast with everybody. They
just just couldn't wait to just jump up and down
on the United States. Well, in the actual broadcast, there
were a number of times like all right, you said that.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Again again, they were God, everybody was mad. Everybody was mad,
a lot of saltiness. That's okay. I mean, look succeed
and proceed is the end result to it all. But
along the way, that doesn't mean you don't have your
criticisms and your problems. And look, lance Lyn's trotting out
for the Dodgers. Yeah, face the A's. I mean, there's
so much gund you got. The Mets that are still
(01:55):
playing the White Sox, according to everything that has to
happen in twenty twenty three, are losing again. So all
was right with the world.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
So there is a bunch to get to. But obviously
today being the trade deadline day in Major League Baseball,
the biggest domino. Of course, the Mets continue to trade
everybody they had, and they moved Justin Verlander to the Astros.
It's a great trade. This is a great trade. The
Astros give up their number one and number four rated prospects.
(02:25):
The Mets are paying about thirty five million dollars, maybe
a little bit more, and the Astros are paying about
thirty million. This is not the Mets had to pay
every single dime.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
This is not. This is a great trade.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
And I told you sure's are trade I was happy with,
and the Verlander trade I'm happy with. And I'm happy
with both of these trades because forget about the money
for a second.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Just forget about the money. Well, the money's in consequence,
the guy's worth billions for this. Is that right?
Speaker 1 (02:52):
And there's so much to get to, But just think
about this for a second. Oh, they traded this.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
They traded this, they trade They're traded all their guys.
It's so embarrassing. Uh, let's stop for a second. I've
done yet.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
If I said to you, the Mets plan is to
go into next year retooling and Verlander insurres are at
the top of the rotation, is that a good plan
or is that a stupid plan. That's a stupid plan
because we saw them do it this year, and what happened.
Neither of them could stay healthy, neither of them were effective.
Max Schurzer got suspended, and we know that. Okay, they're
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thirty nine and forty. It's not gonna get better next year.
It's only gonna be a little bit worse than this year.
So yeah, at least now you didn't go into next
season saying, well, hey, we're counting on Verlander and Sures
and they both stink. You're stuck. It's oh man, we're
stuck because we relied on these guys. We didn't go
out and play anything else. Now it's you traded those guys.
So now you know in the off season when you
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go spend, because that's the best thing about Steve Cohen,
he doesn't care. He will spend money. You go and
spend and reload. There's always starting pitchers out there, there's
always talented players out there in free agency. There's always
players are available. In the deal, you can remake it
in the off season. The Verlander trade was a great,
great trip out.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
If you're Steve Cohen, you get to live out your
dream of every movie villain of showing up with a
briefcase full of money and saying this is gonna hold
be yours and he could do that every time every
off season. Now with the trade, you get a big prospect.
Gilbert's a guy that's been talked about, a bunch five
tool guy to seventy four to twelve and runs thirty
eight RBI and add ten stolen bases in the minors
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this year, So that that's something to get excited about
going forward. A little unnerved by the fact that the
scuttle butt is, hey, we're we're planning to be competitive
again in twenty twenty six into twenty twenty I see hey, no, no,
I could read the quote back to you.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
I got it right here. Mets said twenty four would
be transition. Here this is Max Scher's I'm glad you
brought that up, because I don't want people walking around thinking, oh,
the Mets are gonna tank. Let's just stop for one second. Okay, stop,
they're gonna tank.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Stop stop. Basically, our vision now is for twenty twenty
five twenty This is who I talked to me, of
course it is yes, why why are we asking? Are
you calling alive? This is the part.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
This is the part where where at the end of
the Detective Show, I feel everybody in going, oh, I
didn't understand why that this is this is part of.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
The end of your believing trade and Billy ever, this
is this is part of the end of of Emily overruled.
Uh what did the Mets need to do to trade
Max Scherzer and Justin Verlander who they wanted to trade? Right?
Speaker 1 (05:27):
They started out, We're gonna trade David Robbers. How long
it's going to be, We're gonna trade away, We're gonna
trade Robertson, We're gonna do this. Hey, what's the plan. Well,
the plan is we're not really going to compete next
year because what did they need to do forever? They
had to get stick, they had to get to wave
his no trade pluts, and you had to get Verlander
to agree to go to a team because he would
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take take it all the way to the end. And
it was pretty pretty much down to the Astros and
the Dodgers. Dodgers had some good prospects, but I look,
the Mets got number one, number four in Houston.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
That's pretty good. I was still hoping the We're gonna
jump a little bit. It's like, ah, JP's on board
with me, get in there and buy if you're the Orioles.
You may never have this chance again.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
But you needed to convince them to say we're not
gonna be good next year. Oh okay, I'm okay with
going elsewhere, because if you say no, our plan is
to be great, and well I want to stay. And
now they're stuck because you can clearly see the Mets
wanted to move on from Max Scherzer. He's not a
guy that he is. He is a diminishing asset, and
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so is Verlander. Verlander with a problem staying healthy being
the dominant, cy young, forty five million dollar year pitcher
for the whole season. They want to move on and
get other guys. They need other guys to rely on
to the top of the rotation. So here's they gutta do.
You got to convince them saying all right, we're okay, great,
so I'm okay. Do you really think Steve Cohen is
gonna say I'm not gonna spend money this offseason?
Speaker 4 (06:52):
No?
Speaker 1 (06:53):
You really think you really think he's gonna say, such
a liar. These guys, these guys are gonna go Oh,
they lied to me. They lied to you because they
had to get you to trade you. There is no way.
Steve Cohen says, yeah, gonna be a slow winner for us.
We're not gonna sign a bunch of guys. No, your
going to next thirty five million dollars.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
They're gonna sign.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
They're gonna sign two more starting pitchers. They're gonna sign
a couple of position guys, maybe a couple of these prospects. Already,
the Mets are gonna be right back in the thick
of it to compete next year.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Now are they gonna be good? That's the question.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
But they're not gonna sit back and go, hey, we're
just waiting for our guys and we're we're not gonna
spend money. They had to tell them that to get
them to wave their no trade clause to agree to
a trade. It was pretty easy. There's not what that
not for one second? Is Steve Cohen gonna say yeah,
because he's the guy that said we're gonna win the
World Series next three to five years.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Hey, tik tik tik t.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
They're gonna spend They're gonna compete, and sure's are and
Verlander are gonna go, oh, they just told us that
to get us to accept a trade to Texas and
Houston oh, got it. Okay, trust me, the Mets are
gonna spend and they're gonna do it.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Trust me. They may they may trust spend. Whether they
compete is the other now spending, right, And that's the
whole thing.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
But the thing is they're not going to not try
because because what you're hearing from sures or in Verlander
was next year's a transition year. Are we going to
go all out to win?
Speaker 4 (08:07):
Now?
Speaker 1 (08:07):
It's about developing prospects?
Speaker 3 (08:09):
And you know what that means. Ja, that's not happy anyway?
Do you that is killed? Do you think none? Do
you think competing till twenty or thirty six? Thirty twenty
a long time? Twenty twenty six? Why would come there?
But I want to win. Let me ask this question
though about about those two pitchers in particular. Well, Schureser
had his suspension whatever, But with Verlander the way he
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pitched it in July, how much do you think was
an adjustment to everything and all the new rules changes.
There's gonna be some some adjust there's gonna be some adjusts.
A few starts and then you started to see the
change and started to see and we'd have to go
back through the schedule but pitching to a one six
nine era in July, he was really.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Yeah, but he also he wasn't healthy at the beginning.
He's gonna he's forty years old. Can you rely on
him to anchor your rotation next year when you can
get a lot of prospects back, because because two weeks
it was the Mets aren't getting anybody. I told you
they're trading both these guys. Trust me, they're trading both
of them. And now not only did you trade justin Verlander,
you didn't have to spend as much money. You got
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two top five prospects from the organization. Hey, that's pretty
good haul. Like you kind of had to do that
for Verlin. You couldn't just say no, no, and the fun.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Of it, you know, for you as a Mets fan,
for me, potential misery.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Well, now all the Mets stays half price online, I
can buy, that's true.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
But you have an organization where you actually trust that
they know what they're doing with their prospects, because there
are very few that you say, all right, they come through.
We always talk about the Dodgers, and you lament every
guy that comes up and hits three ninety years.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
So we got to get prospects from teams that know
because we don't know what we're doing.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
So from other teams that you say, hey, there's this
organizational stability and structure all the way down through the
minor leagues that you trust that guys you're trading for
and they come up that the ranking associated with them
might actually have some value. There's any time you have
the hey, he is the sixth best prospect, Like the
White Sox trade with the Angels, Right, these are the
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two of their top three prospects, Like what does that mean?
What does that mean? How many of these guys have
come up to the stars. So top two, top three,
I don't care. But if it's the Astros, if it's
the Dodgers, then then we can talk.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Yeah, look, there's a reason why all the guys the
Mets got suddenly jump in and this player is our
number one run prospect, and you are this number three,
this guy's.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Number number seven.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
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upset that what did you listen? I am really happy
(10:49):
you got Rodriguez from the Tigers today. That was a great,
great move man. I'll tell you that the wrong that
was really good. I will tell you this. None of
those guys the Mets, Scott said, I don't want to
go to New York, none of those guys.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
I don't want to be what he wants.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
To be there.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
I don't want to be There's too much traffic in
Los Angeles. I don't want to go there. I don't
want to go. I feel sweep state. You're how do
you know or not?
Speaker 4 (11:13):
Do you know?
Speaker 3 (11:14):
You're not You're not going all in.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Donovan Mitchell photo shopped him into a Mets uniform today.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Made it clear it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Donovan the secret Team like, no, Donovan Mitchell is giving
Otani all of his money that he got for Yeah,
so that's how it's gonna work. Yeah, if you didn't
know that, did.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
I did not see that that was a twist to this.
Yeah nobody, yeah, nobody.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Yeah, that would that would point, that would have been
really tough if someone actually refused to go to a
team who like really went into Hey, that's the only
big trade we can make, and the guy you wanted
to get said no, I don't.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Want to family because water Rodriguez didn't want to give
up Buddy's pizza.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Hey, Buddy's pizzas legentastic. I always go to Buddy's Pizza
and we go back. It's it's tough. That's so you
get good pizza there. Buddy depers, you know, or you know,
maybe he wants did uh, you know, have some more
uh muskrat dinners and uh and why not? Like you
know when I can always get back to the muskrat.
I can't get muskrat dinners here in LA. I don't
do it really trying hard enough, I can't do it.
I'm sure they'll serve you any of them, any variety
(12:13):
of roadkill.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Okay, I don't know that you can. I don't know
the I don't know that I think you could. I
don't think you can. I think you can find Okay, let'sten.
Think you're not trying hard. Now here's what we need
to do.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
You need to order fat sALS for us because you
said you were gonna order and you need to find
where we could get muskrat dinners from.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
I just said there'd be sandwiches today. I may that
that there'd be if you if you imply there are sandwiches,
we're getting fat sALS. If you can't apply sandwich and oh,
it's gonna be a sandwich your mom made at home,
A PB and J with their fingerprints bread. You know
what those fingerprints were precious. We're not getting Jason, you
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know who.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
You're not getting anybody to help you this year win.
That's what happened to you. But I saw a graphic
that had five guys they brought back Key Kicker Hernandez.
You got Lance Lind's out there. I mean he got
through the first inning on scathes. Sure, sure he a
is sure Sandy Kofax is gonna come back through a
little bit. Yeah, No, they'll be all set to go.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Man, are you kidding? That'll be great? So many threats
in the National League for the Dodgers, the Braves, there's
no threat, dude.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Brad Penny will come back. He'll be great, He'll anchor
the rotation. He'll get Kevin Brown.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
You like guys, Look what you did. I could see
the stab wounds in his back.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
So yeah, great trade for the everything is fine. We're
just gonna spend money in the off season. Shrelander Shirlander Lander.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
We can call that Shirlander now Shrelander.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
I think that's the thing because ver Sure's are ver
Verser doesn't sound good, but sounds good.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Yeah, like Barbarinheimer. Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
We had Barbenheimer last week and that will see both
of them.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
I like that, you said.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Barbenheimer, and well and you saw Shirlander today.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Now Shirlander's gone. I'd like your spin to try to
get away from this disaster of a season as fast
as you can. It's good, you still have to wear it.
It's all lies. But it's a bad year. It's a
bad year. But remember what's setting up terriblest is now
he's shown you he'll spend money terribly and then slough
it off at the first first sign of trouble.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
But the most important thing to remember, and you guys,
really the most important thing to remember in all of this,
you suck. The Jets have Aaron Rodgers. That's the most important.
That's the most important thing to run in all this,
it's the most important thing to remember. You're not gonna
play third, is not gonna play all pre seasons.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Why are you hurt? What do you do?
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Why are you putting in the guy can get hurt?
Why are you doing that?
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Wait?
Speaker 1 (14:45):
What if I did that to Clayton Kershaw?
Speaker 3 (14:47):
Hey?
Speaker 1 (14:47):
When's he's still hurt?
Speaker 3 (14:51):
That for a decade?
Speaker 4 (14:52):
Ye?
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Still still hurt?
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Still hurt?
Speaker 4 (14:53):
Still?
Speaker 3 (14:55):
And where is he now? He's hurt? It's all your fault.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
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Speaker 3 (17:01):
Came into the game an eight and seven record, three
two nine era. Always a big guy, a guy with
big punch out possibilities. But here comes up, made a
lot of energy, a lot of excitement. Verlanders come and
had to show up well for the uh, the returning hero.
It's the nobody cares.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
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Speaker 3 (17:36):
Jay, what's happening, buddy? How are you all right?
Speaker 4 (17:39):
How are you gentlemen doing you were.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Doing pretty good, man. The Mets were able to trade
away sures are in Verlander and get some big prospects.
I'm feeling pretty good right now.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
Yeah. It's just a shame the NFL trade deadline isn't
a little later in the year so that the Jets
could do the same thing.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Hey, hey, one hey, Rogers said he took less money,
so at the deadline, the Jets can go get somebody good.
So it'll be great to go get Jamar Chase to
the deadline. Be very exciting.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
All right, we'll see, we'll see how that plays out.
Don't worry. You got you got Hackett, so you're good. Yeah,
you're fine. Any any problems that come up, he can
fix them. Now. Now, let let's sall Hackett without Hackett.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Let's let's start there.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
We got that. We got Jonathan Taylor. Today, Nathaniel Hackett
had his big response to Sean Payton, saying Sean Payton
broke the code of coaches and the criticism of him
last year and the Jets and everything else, and this
is a story that's just never going to end.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
And I love it.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
I love it because I'm waiting for week five Jay.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
Yeah, Well he wouldn't know because I'm guessing Paul Hackett
maybe wrote the code because outside of that last name,
I can't figure out why this guy is even a
thing whatever man uh broke the code. Look. The great
thing about even Sean Peyton's like quasi apology, Like he
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didn't take back anything he said. No, I mean he
didn't say, hey, that was over the you know, out
of bounds, or I misspoke, or I doubled back with
people in this building who lives at Atrocity last year
and they told me that, you know, I took it
too far. Like it wasn't any of that. It was just, oh,
you know, I got caught up in the moment. I
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was thinking like my old fox self, and I said
things I shouldn't have said. But like he clearly fans
by it. Yeah, and like he's not a guy like
who goes off half cocked, you know, like he he
doesn't take that job without doing a ton of homework,
you know, before he takes it, and then once he
gets there and you know, really trying to figure out
(19:39):
the depths of the dumpster fire that he's diving into.
So I mean, you know, Nathaniel Hacket can get all
up in his feelings and this or that. But like
people in that building knew Nathaniel Hackett wasn't an NFL
head coach. By week two or week three, I was
ready about it to Washington Post saying, this thing is
already on fire, and it's it's not sustainable because he's
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Gayzy and they know he's for Gayzy, So I mean whatever.
You know, he and Robert Solick and say whatever they want,
and I guess they could play the sympathy card or whatever.
But Aaron Rodgers likes Nathaniel Hackett because because Aaron Rodgers
is the offensive coordinator, and if it doesn't go well,
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Nathaniel Hackett's going to take all the blame, you know,
and if it does, it's Aaron Rodgers. And he won
back to back MVPs, you know, a couple of years ago.
So I whatever, man ill look.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Honestly, the big takeaway for me, like you know, it's
my team, but my big takeaway is actually away for him.
Number One, we all knew Hackett wasn't a head coach,
and I'm settling for a sixty three yard field goal
week one. But the second part of it is that
Peyton really seems like, Hey, I want to tell you
we're doing things different, which makes me think, are things
not going as well as he thought they were going
(20:57):
to go? Is he in a little bit deeper than
he thought? Because normally, if your team is good, it's hey,
you know what we're gonna show everybody the beginning of
the season. We'll take people by a little bit by surprise,
then we'll become a story. I'm surprised that he went
to the depths he did, in the lengths he did
to defend what they're doing this year, because that makes
me think, ooh, is maybe Russe Wilson a little bit
more difficult to try to reassess than everything else that we've.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
Heard so far.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
Well, I think it was kind of more to like
take the whole thing off of us, you know, and
kind of like almost give him a bit of a
mulligan for last year because it was such a collective
disaster led by a guy who was woefully ill equipped
to do the job at hand and put a staff
together that was as overwhelmed as he was. You know.
(21:42):
I think it's more about that, you know, than anything else.
Sean Payton's gonna be there a long time, right, we
know that much. And if Russell Wilson can't get the
job done this year, Russell Wilson won't be And I
think Russ knows that. I think Russell's agent knows that.
I think the rest of the league knows that. Like so,
(22:04):
you know, I don't. I don't think that Sean Payton
is looking at it like my you know, success here
rides or dies with me completely getting Russ, you know,
back to where he was. I think it's about figuring
out how functional he is, what he looks like in
a real NFL offense, with real NFL coaching and a
(22:26):
real NFL game caller who makes real NFL adjustments at
halftime and makes real you know, game plans from week
to week and well a baseline to decide uh and
and and as much heat as he can take off
Russ in the meantime, and as much as he can
change last year's narrative to being not really about Russ,
even though in real time it was so much about Russ.
(22:48):
I think that's probably more where you know he's coming from.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Let's go down to your neck in the woods. A
lot of people getting excited about Sam Howell but let's
talk Todd Monkin, Let's talk the Ravens offense and Odell
Beck him junior excitement. There's what's different. What do we
expecting from Lamar Jackson as from the early part of camp.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
There well a lot different. This is a completely different offense.
And it's about getting these all these past cutchers in
positions to succeed and putting Lamar in positions to five
in the passing game. And it's about empowering Lamar and
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letting Lamar see the game through his eyes and have
more autonomy, and about checks and balances, mastering this thing
and then making it your own. Where with Greg Roman,
the scheme was always the star, and there was inflexibility,
and there wasn't a whole lot of check with mes
and a whole lot of audibles. You know, it was
he was the human embodiment of what Greg Roman fought.
(23:52):
You know, a quarterback should be in his scheme. But
there's a very different approach. Todd Monkin's much more fiery,
Todd Munkin's much more vocal, he's much more animated. I
think he's much more flexible, And Todd Munkin has a
better cast of characters. To deal with than from a
skill positions standpoint, than Greg Roman ever did. So. I
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think all those variables pretend a big season from Lamar Jackson.
I think he can throw for four thousand yards. I
think he could throw thirty touchdown passes. I don't think
that kind of stuffs out of the rum of possibility.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Fox Sports Radio, The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harman,
Jason locking for our guest here. All right, so all
things are feeling good, and if you need a running back,
you can just call ursay for Jonathan Taylor. He wants out,
He says, listen, if we're all dead, no one cares.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
Jay.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
This this thing is just insane with him.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
It's amazing this guy won a Lombardi Trophy. I mean
it really is, you know, like it like, and he
fancies himself modern day Al Davis. Just just listen to him. Ran.
I don't understand what he thinks he's gaining by doing this.
Like we can sit here and debate the marriage of
any running back holding out or holding in, you know
(25:07):
what I mean, And we're seeing various sort of versions
of that around the weak. But let's debate what does
he have to gain, Like what what does what is
he getting out of these tweets and out of these
ridiculous sound bites, Like how does he think he's making
anything any better? Like just basically saying the quiet part
(25:28):
out loud, which is your position that we're just going
to squad on and use up and spit out and
we're not paying you and we're not trading you, Like
I don't understand, Like Chris Ballard, the GM there has
had I mean, you know, when you go to work
for this guy, you know you're working for a dude
who's a little different. But when the guy who signs
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the checks does this stuff, I don't know how you
get out of it. You know, Like he's going to
play Richardson whenever the hell he wants to play Richardson.
They're going to play an offense that he wants them
to play. He's not afraid to pick the quarterback, or
pick a fight with the running back, or pick the
next play, or pick somebody off their couch to coach
his team, like good luck, bro. Like I feel bad
(26:14):
for the players there because you know, and he picks
a rookie coach who's going to be incredibly malleable and
who he can push around. I mean, it's it's obvious
what's going on there, and I don't think there's any
chance in hell of working. And at some point, you know,
Taylor will have to play there because he's got to
make money. He's got to, you know, put food on
(26:35):
the table and this or that. But why take an acrimonious,
you know, situation and ratchet it up even more in
public as the owner? It just it's it's befuddling, all right.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
I have to ask the obvious question. I'm excited to
you for the Hall of Fame game and Zach Wilson
being back under center for the Jets.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
Oh god, I got to be honest with you, I
didn't even know like when it was and who was
playing until like sports lines like, hey, what should come
on Thursday and talk about the Hall of Fame game?
Starting taking part in that one? Okay, let me start
trying to find a gambling angle for this one.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
Cutaways Aaron Rodgers on the sideline.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
There you go, game like, don't bet on this game,
like you're better off you know whatever. I don't know.
You got to that cockroach to make it across the street.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
You got eight hundred words on Chris Treveler. That's what
you need right there. Just just make sure, Hey he's
a survivor. B.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
He's on Twitter at Jason lock and fora that is
at Jason lock and fora Now before I let you go, Jay,
I know you listen. It's a big topic we're going
to get into tonight. And I know you you you
were like me. You stayed up late last night and
watched that game, the women's game against Portugal.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
And boy, I'll.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Tell you, man, you you walk ahead today with a
different view with the women's national team than you did
the day before.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
Well, look, I think part of this is should be
celebrated because this is getting closer to the men's game
in terms of the quality of play rising in countries
and continents where five years ago, ten years ago, especially
twelve fifteen years ago, you know, it was completely non
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competitive and large quadrants of the globe. So I mean,
this isn't just a story about this US team isn't
as good as some other ones. I think that's not
even half the story. I think a lot of it
is the gains that are being made globally as soccer
mad countries like England, you know, are getting more and
more into the women's game, and the women's Premiership is growing,
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and players small over the globe right can go there.
And there's more leagues and more leagues, more domestic leagues.
So I think all that should be celebrated. But yeah,
a US women's team like going Gaga for a nil
mill draw in the group stages. That's a new one
for me. Like I I don't quite know what they
were celebrating, to be honest with you, you know by
(29:09):
the standards that that program is set for a long
long time.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
It's like the Mets at spring training when they celebrated
winning the World Series, Like, how does it look like winning?
How are we going to celebrate that last out?
Speaker 3 (29:18):
Yeah, that's kind of what it is.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Uh, Jay, as always, buddy, appreciated my friend.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
We will talk next week.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
Thanks, have a good one, Jason.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
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Who's got what's trending?
Speaker 5 (29:46):
I low Yeah, Jason Acamp against Cleveland at minute made parking.
Here was the final out on k mb E just
moments ago.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Here's the o t the Gallagher broken bat soft liner
paid yeah, catches at a oh.
Speaker 6 (30:00):
Hit her Probert Valdez first one, the great miss Baldonado
and the rest of his teammates Pilon Probert Valdez brote
the sixteenth no hitter and hiss at Astro's history.
Speaker 5 (30:17):
Astros won the game over Cleveland.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
Tutor.
Speaker 5 (30:19):
Now, I think it is. The twenty nine year old
left hander struck out seventy face the minimum twenty seven
batters walking one who was raised on a double play.
Val does through just ninety three pitches. That's the fewest
in a no hitter or perfect game since David Cohn's
perfect game in nineteen ninety nine.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
When wind Dave Roberts had polledhimlo after five innings. Okay, no,
you wouldn't get into the six really, I might have
gotten into the sixth inning, all right.
Speaker 5 (30:43):
Okay, well, considering the low pitch count, you're right, maybe
six innings, but after that, the hook would have been
would have been unleashed directed from the general managed suite.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
Allegedly, you I'm thinking once hee at ninety, which would
be right before the final batter. I'm out ninety.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
You gotta come out, sorry, man.
Speaker 5 (31:01):
I mean two strikes, two outs, ninth inning, perfect game. Sorry, analytics, analytics.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
You know.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
It makes me think that a lot of Dodgers pitchers,
and they're not allowed to talk about this, they all
have clauses in their contract saying, hey, you get a
twenty million dollar bonus if you pitch a no hitter.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
And Craig we'll sign. Yeah, that's okay, Hey, off I
get another.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
And then they're like, oh, I'm never gonna get a
chance now, I see what's.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
Twenty nine is not thirty, Eddie.
Speaker 5 (31:28):
No such thing as a free lunch, or if it's
too good to be true, it usually is. Spencer Strider
of the Atlanta Braves struck at nine and six and
two thirds sittings to improve to twelve and three, and
they're five to one win over the Angels. Michael Harris
two solo home runs for Atlanta Orioles.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
What are got? Toronto?
Speaker 5 (31:45):
Thirteen to three, Baltimore's Anthony santanderra grand slam got her
Henderson a home run and four RBI. Tampa Bay over
the Yankees at Yankee Stadium five to two. Right now,
the Cobs a sixteen to five lead over Cincinnati in
the b the eighth inning, Dansby Swanson two home runs
five RBI. Matt Tackman and Cody Bellinger each have a
home run and three RBI.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
Boy Well.
Speaker 5 (32:11):
The Mets had just rallied for three on the top
of the eighth at Kansas City to take a four
to three lead, but Kansas City has just tied the
Mets four runs.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
The Royals Lights like George Bretton Willie Wilson are playing
for them again.
Speaker 5 (32:25):
Buddy Biancalana, the Royal has been scoring runs the last
couple of weeks. Sorry about that. And finally, we do
have one NFL note. Late this afternoon and early evening
on the West coast, Los Angeles, Rams receiver Cooper cup
walked off the field with the training staff after appearing
to hurt himself while running a route during their early
(32:45):
evening practice. No further details were available as of yet.
Back to you, fellas, Thank.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
You very much.
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Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with my bes
friend Mike Harmon live from the ti Iraq dot com studios. Well,
we got some big stuff on the US women's national
team coming up in a few minutes. But MLB Trade
deadline Day, the big trade was justin Verlander to the Astros,
and we'll go over some big winners and losers of
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the trade deadline day. I've already told you the Mets
are a big winner because look, they've added four s
top fifty prospects. They got the top prospect in the
Astros organization prospects one and four. They got guys that
jump into the top fifteen of their system because the
Mets farm system was so bad. So the Mets won
because they got rid of pitchers aging pitchers. Sure, the
Astros win because what was their need was another starting pitcher.
(35:30):
That was the only thing named to look Framber Valdez,
who pitched a no hitter tonight one two nothing, an
easy no hitter, ninety three pitches and basically, you know,
if Jose Ramirez doesn't get a hit, you have a
really good chance to know hit the Guardians. So there's that.
But you look at the Astros like the no hitter
by Valdez is a is an exclamation point on the
(35:51):
day in which, hey, what was our big need starting pitching?
Now you're rolling out Valdez in Verlander, and Verlander will
be fine the rest of this year in Houston where
he's familiar. Next year will be a thing, because now
you're talking about being forty one already with an injury thing.
But the rest of this year he'll be fine. I
hate to say this because nobody outside of Houston wants
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to hear this, but get ready for the Astros in
the World Series again, because they are gonna win the
Al West as good as the Rangers are. Here are
the Astros the Rangers, and look they made a couple
of moves, but the Astros are a better team. The
Central is terrible, and yes, are the Rays or Orioles
gonna be good enough to get by them in the playoffs.
This was a big deal today because the team the
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best teams in the American League, the Astros, the Rangers,
the Orioles and the Rays. Who are the team that
got the most did got better the most? That was
the Astros. Rangers got better too, but boy schuresers not Verlander,
and the Orioles did nothing and the Rays did nothing.
So yeah, get ready for the Astros in the World
Series again.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
Yeah, I would say this. I was very disappointed that
you didn't get to see at least a push beyond
what Jack Flaherty get gets the nod from the Oriols.
That's their big move. With all the prospects that they
have in the minor leagues. That's all we heard. They
got so many prospects and anything, but that's just it. Right,
you've got a number of guys playing big roles. We'll
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see if they can continue what they've done or will
the calendar get them right. We always talk about rookies
and what they're used to in terms of workload and
minor league seasons and all of that stuff as to
it how it projects forward. And for the Orioles, big
question for the Rays. They had that flaming hot start
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and they got caught, and then because of the Rays,
what do they do at the deadline? They shrug and
so now they're standing in place as the Astros get better.
And Valdez was a guy they expected more out of.
So if he suddenly starts pitching better, right, he's been
a five hundred pitcher with a three two nine ERA
three and he's five hundred. So if all of a
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sudden the offense, which missed a couple of component parts early,
they start producing at the expected level. Yeah, it's going
to be tough to catch because the Central's trash in
short series, anything can happen. Probably won't, but anything can.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
But yeah, now, yeah, now for four of those games,
you've gotten that covered.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
And now you have a two month sprint to get
to the end. So yeah, it's there's to go take now,
which is very disconcerting. I know, I know, not one
of the guys coming back.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
I know nobody wants here's here's a guy that was
on the team that was cheating and he's coming back.
It's one thing if it's another body, right, another thirty
five million dollar pitcher for a failed team and a
failed experiment that gets cast off. And he wasn't even
with the Mets long enough to think of him not
as an astro. It's like they rented him to the Mets,
all right for Hey, we're going to rent him to
you for the first four months of the season. Then
we want him back, all right, all right, why do
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we get back, Well, you get a couple of really
good prospects, you give us some money, all right, Great.
I like that trade. That seems like that was the
trade that happened. Hey, you can rent them for four
months and then we want to back. We'll give you
a couple of guys.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
Oh they decided to turn back in the least they
didn't want it anymore. We'll give you a guy I
decided leasing was a problem. I do like the graphic
that was out there. The uh what was it, one
hundred and fifty two million on salary and then one
hundred and thirty seven with guys that are.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
Gone, yeah, thirty seven, shut up. So look, the Valdez
no hitter is the exclamation point of that day. And
I get nobody, nobody wants I'd get that, nobody wants
to hear that. But who's gonna stop the Astros. Look,
the Orioles are terrific. It's gonna get to the point
in the season where are they really ready to make
that next great leap. It's gonna be hard. It's gonna
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be hard for me to see any of those teams
doing it. Now, You're right, short series can happen. But
the Astros have navigated October with a trash can without
a trash can many different ways over the course of
the past few years. And so yeah, they made the
big move today and it was the It shored up
the biggest weakness they had.
Speaker 3 (39:59):
And yeah, it's hard. The biggest thing is we're looking
for fireworks, right, the expectations, and i'd kind of tamp
that down with the number of teams that are quote competing,
and that's the difficulty, right, We're watching the A's play
play the dodge. You got the A's, you got my
beloved White Sox who just whatever you want you can take,
except you really got to come strong if you want.
(40:21):
Dylan Cees and I mean Lewis Robert was the only
guy they said you can't have.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
And TJ clearly the White Sox says, we would like
you to cease and desist calling from us to get
our pictures.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
Nice. I mean the Royals. I mean, you've got six
or seventeen. The Mets have thrown up a white flag.
This trade will cease to exist in another few minutes
and in five seconds. Yeah, exactly, just steal the mission.
Impossible lines. I'm trying. I'm trying to think of more
the phrases with the word seas. I get it. Yeah, No,
there's not a lot workshop and you'll get back to
(40:54):
you later in the show. But I mean there's very
few teams that are just obviously in disarray and done
next year. There's a lot well exactly, they they shed
off all all of that money, uh, and those two
big names, and we talk about the A's and the
Royals and the White Sox and whatever, but everybody else
still fashions themselves as it would be contender, right, one
(41:16):
week of good play and all of a sudden, you're
only a game or two back of the wild card
with six weeks to go. No, but that's it, right right,
that was the big question all weekend, snow going is
this guy going? Nope, we'll add on I mean it's
Rich Hill, but they added on DJ.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
Yeah, if you want to trade Dylan cease fire the GM,
this should not happen.
Speaker 3 (41:42):
Tj oh boy, I just have another one. I can't
take it. No, it's gonna bug you few minutes. You're
gonna get a cup of coffee and a few.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
More yet, I need another seats. I got seasoned, desist,
I got SAG. I was trying to get Band of
Horses ceased to begin album in there somewhere. But that's
a little a little too obscure, right yeah, a little
too esoteric. Now, but I like where you're going.
Speaker 3 (42:04):
So we had the big trade deadline winners, the Mets,
the Astros, What about the big losers and more on
the US women's national team that's coming up next right here,
Tyright dot Com Studios, Fox