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get to an unbelievable moment that just happened in sports,
I gotta say this, Okay, this is the most nervous
time of the year, I think for all sports fans
because every time they get on social media and you
see one of the players on your favorite NFL team trending,
you immediately your heart stops, you start sweating. It's what happened?
(01:12):
Why is a guy on my team trending? Why has
this happened?
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Why?
Speaker 3 (01:16):
What happened? What happened in practice? Was he helped Gingerly
off the field? Did the art come out to get him?
Did he walk off under his own power?
Speaker 5 (01:25):
Did he sit in the front seat of said KRT?
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Yeah? What difference?
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Was he screelling and screaming when it happened? All of
these things go through right, And this is like, and
I can't stand this. This is like the fourth time
in the last six days where I've gotten on the computer,
you know, a couple of minutes before the show whatever
it was, and I see McCole trending me Coli and
first and I go, oh no, what happened to Mikkole Hartman?
(01:49):
What happened to mccol harton at jets practice? I go
on and it's flipping a contestant on Big Brother twenty
five that's doing something on the show. And I'm like,
you can't do this, man, you gotta make sure what
not trends it's mc coole has slash tag BB. You
can't do because I got in That's like eight seconds
of my life where I go, oh no, what happened?
Click reveal what is this Because the first thing that
(02:10):
comes up is Michole Hartman's Twitter account and then I go,
oh no, it's Big Brother stuff. And Rob cesternino Is
is tweeting about like, okay.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Every you got gone, Everything is fine? Right?
Speaker 5 (02:22):
I see make sure your heart was working?
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Yes, that's good.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Because I see stuff like McCole safe, like oh is
he safe? That means he got hurt? And he's okay?
Like what and it's always Big Brother and I'm like,
I got you gotta stop this. You can't have this high.
I can't keep logging on going what happened to Micole Hardman?
And it's something from bleeping Big Brother man. Come on,
you gotta do better than that.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
You can't just do it. You can't that to me.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
You can't do that to all of us, because that's
where we're at right now. At no other time do
we get online and check things and look at social
media when it is during the NFL season because we
don't get coverage of our favorite teams. You don't see
practice video easily. You gotta go find it somewhere and
and okay, what is it?
Speaker 4 (02:57):
Oh my goodness, what do I gotta see? What? Okay? No,
it's just somebody on Big Brother.
Speaker 5 (03:01):
I mean, come on, man, kid, Hey it's a new season, buddy,
it's a new season, so you know, stop your hatred.
You know there are more than one McCole in this world,
and get over it, right, I mean, look, no, no, no,
come on, man. If if it gets you to click,
click click click, it did its job. If you saw
Jay Fields trending, you would faint dead away. And it
(03:21):
turns out, oh no, it's Jessica Fields who is on
the Amazing Race or something, or politician Jessica Fields who
is doing something.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
You would faint dead away. Just stop. You don't playing there,
you're talking Jason, help me. I thought justin Fields everything
was wrong? Can you help me?
Speaker 3 (03:40):
And I'd have to get down that I have to
pump your heart for a while, you have to blow
air into your lungs and that all of these things.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
I don't want to do what I have to do
that for you? Just stop it, like you.
Speaker 5 (03:49):
Know I'd have to do that as the resident pragmatist
and calming force of this show. All of what you
just said is crap. Look it's it's the kind of
thing I would click on it is there a story
for the show.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
But is my heart gonna sink?
Speaker 5 (04:02):
If? I mean, I would feel bad for Justin Fields.
Next man up and next to heart attack, right, I
mean from another pool of sasage, you know that would
be the next thought. I did have a big mac tonight,
so I joined your company. Uh, you know, all all
the running around, so I celebrated that, and I'm watching
guys do their cardio while I sit in a chair and.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
Talk to you.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
But yeah, exactly, So when you come down to it,
all the stuff that's trending. You know, hey, guy throw
a football at a teammate, this guy cursed somebody out.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
You know, it's look certainly.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
For our elder statesman and sports and media, right, music
and entertainment. Yeah, you have that moment, a pause of
oh no, and that takes about five seconds, and then
if it's confirmed, you go oh no again, and maybe
you pull up a song or a film clip, but
you just kind of you move.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Forward, buddy, Oh oh blah dah. Life goes on. Buddy.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
You're just you're you're you're you're not even in reality
right now. You'd be the exact same way if you
saw that it's not you saw like Chase claypool tread.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
Don't you think he would have got cut? I don't
think Chase good, I said, I said terrible. I said
Ben cold Comet. While you're okay, what about cold Comet
you like to break?
Speaker 5 (05:18):
If you saw years fifty million dollars, good for him.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
Go on you.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
If you saw Comet trending, you would get nervous and
you would see, oh no, this is Kevin Matriculate who
does something on YouTube or whatever it is. K Met
is something, it's k dash Met. Actually no, you would
have the same thing would happen to you the same exactly.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
You know, I don't. I don't have that.
Speaker 5 (05:39):
I don't ride that same roller coaster. I would say,
oh that's too bad. It's not a story we can
use for the show.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
No, just stock you would you wear it?
Speaker 3 (05:47):
You wear you wear your dirty ass white sox and
bear stuff all the time.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
You're just as I am. You're just invested.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
I you wear your shower regular you wear those yeah,
but you but but you know, I mean you have
the great dirty hats which.
Speaker 5 (05:59):
No, they're well well worn on it and whether it hats,
there's no.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Would be the same way for me. Man same way.
Speaker 5 (06:05):
My celebration of it is is there, but ooka in
the end, I wish for great health. I hope for
a successful season, but I don't. I don't you know,
shed tears if it goes the wrong way.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
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Speaker 4 (06:27):
You're gonna get swept by the Royals, So you.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
Know that's how that I'm losing eleven nothing to the Rangers.
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Speaker 4 (06:44):
Slash match.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
But speaking of greatness once again tonight we have seen
greatness and there's still a long way to go in
this game.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
Take a listen.
Speaker 6 (06:54):
Inside clipping It Apple TV on the call Leono MESSI.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
You watch this.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
You watch this rocket that hits him in the chest
in the box and he calmly drops it and lasers
it in for a goal. The League's Cup going on
right now. Round of thirty two inter Miami tiede with
Orlando City one one. Messi just hit the post up seconds,
you know, I mean, it's insane. Look, everything we've told
(07:41):
you about Messi and soccer and the growth, it's going
to be the fourth biggest sport. All of these things
are happening. But there's a different conversation to have right now.
And if this doesn't tell you about the direction of
where sports is headed in the United States TV wise,
nothing else will.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
Like we have coming up the story.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
About the Big twelve, the ACC, the Pack twelve, now
the PAC nine, maybe the PAC six, who knows.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
But and it's all about television rights.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
And I know a lot of people and already Frostburg
says before the game, man, these games got to get
off of Apple TV. People have to be able to
see Messi a little bit more. But this is where
the rights are. This is where MLS is, this is
where Messy is. And for everybody who wants to keep saying, well,
you got to make it more available, you got to
make it more available.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
I got to see it on broadcast TV.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
All things you have heard for the last few years now,
and for the most part, when something had that big
of a demand, it was koutout too eventually as well.
We got to put these games on. We're not getting
the coverage here. We need something else. But what's happening
right now? I'm telling you gird your loins for this
because there is nothing that I am more sure of
(08:47):
than streaming sites Apple, Netflix, whoever winds up getting Amazon
buying NFL package. They are going to change the way
you watch television if they have to jam it down
your throat every single day until you just say enough,
I will deal with what happens now. I will look
into getting Apple TV. I will figure out a way
(09:10):
around my cable because that's the future. There is nothing
gonna be well, yeah we have.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
It on streaming, but yeah, yeah, we'll still have it. No.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
No, these streaming services are going to every single day
hit you over the head with the fact that you
need to change your way of viewing and you need
to get to streaming sites. You want to and need
to be able to pay for this and understand that
you're gonna have to pay. That stuff used to see
for free is not gonna happen anymore because these streaming
sites are paying billions upon billions of dollars for these
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streaming rights. You are going to have to change, and
I know that as people get older, they don't want
to change. Look, my dad doesn't want to change cable companies.
I gonna learn all the testages all over.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
Again, Dad. They have a guide. You could just go
on the guide and scroll. You're retired, you can just
scroll all.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
The way down channel one, all the way to channel
five to fifteen. They'll take you about three minutes. No, no, no,
I don't want to do it. I don't want to
do it. Everybody's gonna have to change. Nothing's going to
come to us. There's not going to be an outcry
of why are we not seeing MESSI. This is how
it's going to go, because there's no greater vessel to
make this happen than MESSI. Oh I gotta be able
to see MESSI guess what, Apple TV. This is the
(10:15):
way it goes. You are going to be broken from
your television habits. And I don't want to be the
first one to tell you, but I'll be the person
to tell you that that honestly, you hopefully listen to that.
This is going to be the way you can't unring
a bellion. It's not going to go back to the
way it was. This is the present and future, and
every single streaming service is going to stick their hand
down your throat and grab your heart and say you
(10:37):
will change because we're not going back. That's what's happening now.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
Well, the other part of it is that you know,
it's far more seamless, right, so people are used to
you no matter your age, someone's downloading apps to your
phone to help you navigate your world, but certainly smart TVs.
All it is is a bunch of apps that you
put on a list, right, So there's your login. It's
(11:01):
not like you're searching between seven hundred and fifty cable
channels or anything.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
In this case, you've got to have the package.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
I think it was ninety nine dollars for the year
and so or fourteen dollars a month, depending on how
you want to parse it out, So not terribly expensive.
Apple paid the rights for rights fee for the exclusivity.
So and that's it right where we always talk about
sports being the last bash you.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
Know, must see TV.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
I mean this comes all the way back to Tom
Petty had this back in two thousand and two with
his album The Last DJ, talking about you know on
the boys upstairs just want to see how much you'll
pay for what you used to get for free. Talking
about the commercialization and repackaging, rebranding of all of this
streaming services and everything starting to come online and trying
(11:51):
to make sure everybody was getting in your pocket.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
And well that's what we see now.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
It's fragmented, compartmentalized, and you have to decide, you know,
which of these entities are most important to you. Yeah,
Are there a bunch of line items for your yearly passes?
Because that's that's the thing. To simplify it. Are you
not paying necessarily a monthly bill unless you want to
parse it out otherwise, here's your Apple TV for seventy
dollars a year, Here's your Disney Plus for one hundred
(12:18):
dollars a year, et cetera, et cetera. Amazon for your
sixteen dollars a month for prime, you know, with all
the benefits included. You know, you can parse it out
or just have Hey, this bill comes due this month,
this one goes the next month, and just move on
from there, and people will get trained to go find
their sports. Thusly, people are finding the early morning MLB
(12:39):
Peacock game. Those are doing just fine, as much as
people grumbled about that. And when you've got a must
see superstar like this who's already got a goal and
hit the post in the thirty eighth minute of a game, yeah,
people will gravitate. People will come, or they'll just keep
going to X. Well, they'll get it almost instantly when
something good happens.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
X.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
Now you're making the X with your hands, right, X,
Like I have one. I do it like Degeneration X.
It's it's shopped to the crotch.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
See, I think see.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
I think of it like Paul Stanley doing the Lets
put the exit.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
In sad No, that's good too.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Loves like a muscle, and you make me wanta flex baby,
Lets foot the exits. Sometimes I would think of hey
as a coach, like, you know, you make the ex Hey,
I'm gonna signal in a play.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
No, I just like a Paul Stanley making the ex
Let's pus. That's a good X. I like that.
Speaker 5 (13:33):
You've got multiple uses for it. I mean, because then
we get the metal stand. You also get Dez Bryant.
So we've got Paul Stanley, we've got Degeneration X, and
then we've got des Brian that's a pretty good run,
right there.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
These uniforms still suck.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
By the way, yeah, well yeah again the collars. I
don't like the callers. Why it's sports.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
It's not it's it's not a it's not a uh,
it's not a casual summer friday at work in an office.
Come on, just.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
Decide whether you want to wear pink or purple and
be done with.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
I don't mind pinker, but I don't mind the pink
and pearl. I think what I'm saying, like pick pick one.
You know you're in You're in between. You're no man,
Look at you. What do you always say, go to monetize.
If you can sell a pink messy jersey and a
purple messy jersey.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
You sell the pink.
Speaker 5 (14:11):
Oh no, no, no, separate them out though, but have a
pink one, have a purple one. Right now, you're in
the in between stage.
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that the crux of the big football story.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
Of the day.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
We kind of knew we were waving goodbye to the
Pac twelve, but it looks like we're waving goodbye to
another conference of the Power five as well. That's next
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Wow.
Speaker 5 (15:12):
I welcome him back with open arms. Asked how his
days were, what he did with his evenings after working
a heavy shift and carrying a heavy load in the morning.
I mean, and you just go and just say beat it.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
Yeah you did all that stuff. I'm sure. Yeah, I'm
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of our conversation a few minutes ago about streaming television
(16:23):
rights and messy and a goal that people want to say,
I gotta have Apple TV, now it looks like we're
not only going to say goodbye to one long time
power five conference in college football, but probably.
Speaker 5 (16:33):
Two escalated quickly.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
It got really fast, right, it got really fast. We're fast.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Yeah, we're gonna have the four major conference. No, no, no,
Now we're gonna be three Uh, the Big Ten has
started early discussions about expansion with Oregon, Washington, cal and
Stanford as the potential targeted schools.
Speaker 5 (16:53):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
The Big Ten put out a statement saying the Big
Ten is still focused on integration of USC and UCLA,
but it's all so the commissioner's job to keep conference
chancellors and presidents informed about new developments as they occur.
And according to reports, hey, the Big Ten would like
to talk to these schools, but they don't want to
appear predatory like.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
They weren't U c l A.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Hey, No, we're done be you were you know we're
we're not were you know, No, no predatory lender, No, no, no,
not us, not us not.
Speaker 5 (17:19):
Yeah, they sent a message in a bottle that they
got here.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
Yeah. The the cat is out of the bag on
that one. Right.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
And and look, I really wish a year ago I
had done what I should have done, and that is
patent did the phrase the Big twenty.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
I should I have the website? Oh you do? Oh
good god, We're gonna make a lot of money on that.
Speaker 5 (17:40):
Then we're gonna make tons of money on that web
number one dot com you do?
Speaker 3 (17:45):
Oh dude, you own that we're gonna make so much
catch on that.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
Let me see again. Www, Dot B B one g.
Speaker 5 (17:53):
One, it's registered. I haven't done anything.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
With you, no, I know what I'm saying there. You
don't have permission to access as Wow, look at that.
We're gonna make so much cash.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
So much cash. Man. Uh, look, this is as we said.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
It was great that the PAC twelve had their bit
of an announcement yesterday that they're going to Apple for
streaming rights and you're gonna have to pay to watch
the PAC twelve.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
That's great, we said it yesterday. It's the wave of
the future.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
It is absolutely the wave of the future. It's how
all things are gonna happen. But if you're a PAC
twelve school, are you going to sign up for?
Speaker 4 (18:26):
What do we need to do? Well? It's not gonna
be a lot of money at first, but as long.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
As there's a appetite for it and we do well
business wise, it's more money for you guys in the
long run. Hey, what do you got, Big ten? We
got thirty million dollars a year for you start next year.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
Hey, Big ten, we aren't there man.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
I mean, it's it's it's a great idea, and it's
it's what the future is going to be. It's just
not gonna save the PAC twelve, which is now the
Pack nine, which could be the Pack seven or could
be the Pack.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
Five at some point soon.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Although hey, that would make Oregon State like the overwhelming favorite.
So you're going to see this right, the PAC twelve
is done. It's just gonna be a it's just a long, slow,
painful death for the PAC twelve where we're gonna watch
them twist and writhe like it's like it's a horror
movie and someone's dying.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
They don't just die.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
It's like I'm coughing and I'm coughing up blood and
I've lost my arm, but I can still have one
fast you know, swipe with my left hand. I get
my left hand cut off, and I'm trying to save
somebody before I just bleed out entirely. This is what
we're gonna watch with the PAC twelve. We're watching all
the schools leave. We're watching a better late than never
but still not nearly good enough television offer. Everybody's going
(19:35):
to go with u USC and UCLA going. That's changed
everything in college sports. That was whoa you're talking about
the two most high profile universities west of the Mississippi
are going to the Big ten that change it all.
We just have to wait, but it's going to die,
and the PAC twelve will be done as a conference.
Maybe they still are around in name only and they
(19:56):
try to find some way to say, okay, well we'll
take some school from lesser conferences than us if you
want to come join the PAC twelve or and or
get back to the PAC ten. And suddenly it's Oregon
State and San Diego State and you see Santa Cruz
and University of San Diego, and you know, I don't.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
Maybe that's what it's gonna be.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
But the PAC twelve, as we know, it's just it's
dead and it's dying and we're watching it die slowly.
But that's gonna be the end result and there's no
stopping that.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
Yeah, you just hit the point, like you tie it
all together. You mentioned the ACC and where they're at
Florida State and competitiveness and bonuses and structures and everything else.
They've got a deal that runs through twenty thirty six.
That's why there's saltiness on that side. It's like, hey,
here's your payout last year according to a CBS report,
(20:46):
thirty nine million dollars for them SEC forty nine point nine,
Big ten fifty eight point eight. Oh, and they signed
new deals, so those numbers are going up. So this
is where the math gets kind of fun. And the
negotiations between schools entering and those already in existence in
these conferences become fascinating because and it's not like you
(21:08):
renegotiate it. Hey, go back to Fox, espn Uh whoever
else is involved in those respective packages and say, hey,
you know, we got a couple of new schools in.
We're gonna need a couple more zeros and a couple one
hundred million. Nah's nothing, So are you gonna give up
money to let these guys in?
Speaker 4 (21:24):
You're gonna have to take a lesser deal.
Speaker 5 (21:26):
And if you're a member of the Crumbling Pac twelve,
you're gonna say, yeah, you're gonna hit that plunger, like
Howie Mandel is not gonna be able to finish the
phrase deal er.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
Plunger, pluger.
Speaker 5 (21:38):
I'll take it, I'll take I'll take what's behind there,
because the the other might be interesting, might be fascinating,
long term, might be a great play short term. I
need guaranteed money and this ain't it.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
So the PAC twelve, look, we've talked about it. You
know what's going to be done now. The big turn
was today where we found out the ACC is done
as well, because Florida State and their president, Richard McCollough
told the Florida State Board of Trustees and might refer
to it, they're not satisfied with their current situation the ACC,
(22:09):
he said during the meeting. They'd love to stay, but
it's difficult to find a path to remain competitive without
changes to the league's revenue distribution.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
According to other.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
Sources, it's not a matter of if Florida State leaves
the ACC.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
But when and if. That's what's happening now.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
If Florida State leaving, the ACC is done, because Florida
State leaving means Miami is going to leave and Clemson
is going to leave, and the conference is finished. Maybe
Syracuse can win the ACC now they all go, but
the conference as a Power five or Power four conference
is done. The minute you lose Florida State, you lose Miami,
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you lose Clemson.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
They just go.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
They go to the SEC, they go to the Big Ten,
they go somewhere where they're going to get their bigger
share of the pie money wise, because this is not
about winning. And this is a load of crap from
Florida State saying, hey, we want to be competitive without
changes to the revenue distribution. Dude, you're gonna go to
the SEC and get smoked. Well, everybody knows that UCLA's
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going to the Big Ten. They know they're gonna get smoked. Right,
Clemson will get smoked going to the SEC.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
It's Clemson used to be eleven and wonder reader, what
do they now? Yeah, they're eight and five? What happened?
They went to the SEC.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
It's not about none of it is about being competitive.
It's where can I cash that big check? And college
sports used to be about winning and money, right, It
was always it went hand in hand, right, you won
money was there, you won more, you got more money,
you found a way. Now college football and we're college sports,
but college football has become so overwhelmingly about money that
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winning is something that nobody cares about. Like I said,
Ucla going to the Big Ten. You think they're ever
gonna sniff a Big Ten championship in football?
Speaker 4 (23:48):
Of course not. They'll be lucky.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
If they win three games a year, they could barely
be a Bowl eligible team.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
In the Pac twelve. And the Pac twelve stinks, right,
USC can.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
Go there and win, but USC is A is a
bigger program with with better recruits, and just overall is
a better situation. But most of the schools they know
they go in there taking the money. Rutgers went from
a conference where hey, we can win some stuff here
in the Big East, right right, No, No, let's go to
the Big Ten. We're gonna be three and nine every year.
But boy, we're gonna get thirty for thirty five million
dollars worth of money every single year. It's no longer
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at all about winning in college It used to be
about it. It used to be about winning in money, winning
and money. Now it's money is everything, and we don't
no one even cares about winning anymore. It's winning is
where can we get to where we get that share
of that Where can we get to that big share
of that, of that TV money, where we're getting all
of this every year and we're suddenly rolling in cash.
That's what college football has become, and that's why Florida
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State's going That's why Miami's gonna go, Clemson will go,
and then it's gonna be the Big three conferences. It'll
be the Big twelve, which will probably be the Big sixteen,
It'll be the PAC twenty, and then it will be
the SEC, which can have as many people as you want.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
You because it's called the SEC. That's how it's gonna go.
I'm sorry, Big twenty, PAC twenty's nine. PAC two might happen.
Pack if we have a six pack. Yeah, no, no,
that's not gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
You're talking about those are going to be your three
conferences going forward in college football.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
And you'll have the leftovers Syracuse Cal there's a conference.
It'll become its own conference. Yeah, you call it the Leftovers.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 5 (25:13):
Not.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
That's how I like that. We have to win. You
have to take that hashtag from the TV show The
Leftovers people. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5 (25:20):
But you know, pondering the Florida state part of it
is laughable. And I don't pretend to have great knowledge
of the the non traditional revenue sports, but their football
team had that ten win season this year prior prior
five years five three, six, five seven, history. I mean,
Bobby Boden ain't been there for a long time. Likewise, basketball,
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some big wins, some big opportunities here, right, had a
couple of semi final regional semi final appearances in the
NCAA tournament. But otherwise, you know, twenty wins. All right, Fine,
you get to play in the tournament and again at Northwestern,
and I would love to see the tournament with that
great regularity. But that's not what we're talking about here.
We're talking about Florida State trying to say, look, how
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elite we are and we should be compensated. Thusly, it's
like would you.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
Win, win anything?
Speaker 5 (26:12):
And winning to your point, yeah, the bowl system, the
redistribution of how we look at conferences, and the ability
to flip and change things tradition, you know, be damned
as some might lament in all of this is yeah,
it's a different world. Did you make the playoff? And
if you make the playoff, winning roles because you'll keep
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getting your alumni support and your boosters will keep pony
up cash year after year, and the television revenues. But
the key is how long are the television deals that
you locked in? Right, That's the bottom line of this.
The ACC Florida State's mad, and the other teams and
the conference are going to be mad and echo those
sentiments because you signed a deal through twenty thirty six
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like a bunch of dopes.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
You know.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
It's the Scottie Pippen with the bulls. You outplayed it.
I'm sorry, there's no renegotiation. You want to leave, go leave,
but the conference you're stuck. You sign this in blood.
Speaker 5 (27:07):
We're not renegotiating on a thirteen year deal that you signed.
Speaker 4 (27:11):
I'm them if it wasn't in a Florida state. Did
you just call me a dope? You're damn right. I did.
Speaker 5 (27:16):
You're damn right.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
I did right. It's the whole thing.
Speaker 5 (27:18):
Everybody that didn't know the story right last dance Scottie
Pippen Hawaii was so salty and everything. It's like, oh wow,
they really abuse him. No, they gave him what he
wanted at the time, which was a long term, secured deal,
telling him the whole while this is a bad deal,
it's a bad deal, the game's changing, but he got
his seven years now. He still made a lot of money,
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and he made more than Jordan did for his career.
So the lesson learned there is maybe Patience is a virtue,
but you gotta wait for it. And right now the
ACC is looking around and they're seeing the dollars in
cent Right. I just saw an ad for Big ten
football at night on Saturday nights on Peacock. What did
they have to do to do that? Backed up up
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a couple of Brinks trucks. New deal, new money. ACC's gone.
We want some of that new money. I'm just kind
of old and stale. It's kind of crusty.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
You just signed that deal. Doesn't matter. It's old, it's outdated.
Speaker 5 (28:13):
It's an outdated deal.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
Sorry you news.
Speaker 5 (28:15):
It's like all the deals Larry Scott kept signing. There
were bad deals, but nobody was smart enough in Silicon Valley.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
To recognize that they were bad deals. Leaders and captains
of industry a bunch of dopes. So this new car
I have, what is it worth? It's worth thirty five
thousand dollars. What happens when I drive it off the lot?
Twenty three thousand dollars.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
I just drove it off the lot. Doesn't matter to depreciate.
You drive it off the lot. It's yours.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
I mean, that's what's gonna And I know Florida States.
It's like one hundred and ten million dollar feed eggxsit
the ACC. But you know that's something that can go
through the courts. That's something that can be worked out.
If they really want to go, you can get a.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
I mean really, you think it can have anything money
wise can be worked out. If you want money bad enough,
this can be worked out.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
Trust me. The ACC is done. With the minute.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
Florida State said we're thinking about going, the ACC is done.
The SC's gonna say, come come play with us, and
then we'll get Miami and we'll get clems It. That's
how it's gonna go. That's how it's gonna go. I'm
telling you the Big Three Conferences. That's where we're gonna be.
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Speaker 3 (29:31):
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Speaker 4 (29:36):
But if last night and yesterday was all the.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
Hey you as women's national team, Oh my goodness, things
they're at death's door and it's terrible, and they're dancing
and they shouldn't be, and they're signing.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
Autographs they shouldn't be.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
Hey, let's remember they moved on to the knockout round, right,
we talked about it last night. Just understand just because
they wear the uniform doesn't mean they're the same team
they were the last ten years. Sophia Smith is not
Alex Morgan, Trinity Rodman is not Megan Rappino. They're good players,
they're not the superstars that we had, right, But it
was a it was a rough day yesterday.
Speaker 5 (30:08):
Sure, it's very difficult, a lot of anger, a lot
of vitriol, the attacks on Carly Lloyd. While I disagree
with the statement on you know, the celebration. Look, man,
I'm the guy you make the last wild card. Go ahead, champagne,
because you have no idea what tomorrow brings right in
your personal lives, same thing, go and celebrate the hell
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out of it. So I disagreed with her on that.
The assessment of the team and their play kind of
hard to argue with what you watched.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
Yeah, because you know, you watch and it kind of looked,
you know, you could tell that it's a little bit
personal with her because of how it ended and where
she's at.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
So so I thought.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
The tone could have been a little bit better, but
the message was there. Now that was yesterday.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
Today.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
Now I can give you a little bit of a
silver lining and what I really do expect. Now we
know the United States is going to be playing in
the knockout round and Sweden and Japan, with probably the
two most impressive teams in the.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
Group stage of the World Cup.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
Right, they're gonna play They're gonna play Sweden in the
middle of the night on Sunday. But here's the silver lining.
At this point, the United States knows their expectations are
out the window. They know that they're not the team
that everybody thought they were. They're not the team that
everybody expected to roll to the World Cup. Right where
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the number one team and where the top ranked team in.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
The all of the World Cup?
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Now they're not right one zero to two in the
in the group stage, including a less and impressive win
over Vietnam, a tie with the Netherlands, and then a
ridiculous tie with Portugal, who's not even a top twenty team.
At this point, the expectations are out the window, and
the pressure that the United States has to win is
out the window because they know, hey, we're good, but
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we can lose any time we get out there, so
can everybody else. No one expects us to win sometimes sometimes,
and this team, having the leaders that they do, with
Meghan Rapino and Alex Morgan and Rose Level and Lindsay Rant,
who've all been in big pressure situations before, sometimes when
the expectations are done and you are just back to
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being able to just play, it's very freeing right there.
There's no pressure, there's no there's no element of relief
when they win, which is what it it's has been
because of the level of excellence the US women's national
team has had over the past ten to twelve years.
But sometimes when you have when you go in and
if this is a team that's playing where they expect
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to go out and win and they're not doing it
and they know that they can't just do it, that
can be a freeing thing and you can just go
out and play. I really I expect we're going to
see their absolute best game against Sweden on Sunday, because
they're gonna have a few days to reflect on this
and Basically, it could be as simple as a blank.
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Everybody they don't think we can win will go show
them and suddenly the passes will be crisper, the desire
will be there. They'll look like a different team. They'll
look kind of like they did the last thirty minutes
against the Netherlands. That's a very big deal when suddenly
you don't have to deal with expectations and hey, you're
just another team all right now. Now we can just
focus on going out and playing. We're going to see
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that out of the women's national team on Sunday.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
Yeah, the curiosity.
Speaker 5 (33:24):
I mean, they're still the co favorite, right It's at
one point they were a prohibitive favorite. Now it's plus
four hundred, so four to one. Both the US and Spain.
England would be next at plus four fifty, then Japan
and Germany at plus eight hundred, Netherlands ten to one
at plus one thousand, Then you have France and Australia
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before you get to Sweden, which is now sitting at
plus two thousand, twenty to one. I would be remiss
if I didn't note that our boy Messi is currently
laid down in a heap after a collision going after
a ball. So we'll keep an eye on that, uh,
because lots still going on.
Speaker 4 (34:02):
In that game.
Speaker 5 (34:02):
But when we look at the expectations, look, you're you're
still you're still the big bad us. You're supposed to
go and get your three p seven dollars to pat Riley. Uh,
and you're you're supposed to go and dominate. I don't
think the expectations have changed. I think there's just that
level of disappointment. I think people are coming to rationalize
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a little bit what they've seen in me and maybe
tempering expectations to a bit. But it's not gonna take
the one eighty to calm and rational. We're sports fans
in the US. You talked about losing your mind over
the possibility that Mikole Hardman might have gotten hurt in practice.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
Well, hey, hey, hey, hey, don't put that out there anymore.
Don't get don't keep saying that everything is fine.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
There was all much, but it makes my point, so
I have to say it. Don't put that out in
the world.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Insert random Jets player. No, it's gonna be a antem
player man. Just somebody else, somebody, just a phantom somebody.
Speaker 4 (34:55):
It was about you.
Speaker 5 (34:56):
Well, but that's where you said your heart was in
your throat and bah blah blah. So I'm just saying
the same thing here. I mean, it doesn't suddenly become
calm and rational discourse as much as I would love
it to be, because hot take nonsense and just making
stuff up ain't my bag. Works for others quite well,
but that's.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
Just not me. I can't.
Speaker 5 (35:15):
I can't keep up the appearance there in the act.
But when we look at these United States team, I
think we're just coming at it from a more realistic
but it's not a full on point eighty, just enough
to maybe say, all right, there's a chance they can
be beaten, but they have to be better in the
knockout round. Maybe they were just advanced, you know, succeed
and proceed. They didn't care as much because they knew
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the stakes weren't as high stakes steaks.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
I expect their best game against Sweden. It's gonna happen.
Speaker 5 (35:45):
Two am Sunday, Baby, Let's go.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
Put a pot of coffee on.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
Coming up next, that big story out of the NFL,
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