August 8, 2023 • 29 mins
Jason shares a crazy production story. The guys have the latest on the Orioles suspending announcer Kevin Brown indefinitely. And the Progressive play of the night!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:28):
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you heard Seed disager mention it a few moments ago.
The Angels give up how many of the ninth twelve thirteen,
one hundred and two six and the ninth they lose
to the Giants. They have still not won since the
trade deadline, since they decided to keep show. Heyotani, and
I say to you, it's completely against the rules. Yeah,
(01:11):
but if the Angel said, hey, we want to have
a due over. We want to trade Otani. Who says no.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Dude, who says no, What have we been watching in
college athletics.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
There's no rules.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Contracts don't matter, agreements don't matter, history, tradition, what you've
done forever. Look at what Major League Baseball did this offseason.
They changed a bunch of stuff last minute. Who's the
hell's to say you can't do it in the middle
of the season. It's like, you know what special rules,
special people.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
I'm telling you, man. Nobody says no, I know it's
against the rules. It's not right, it's not right. No, absolutely,
one hundred percent, you guys are correct. But if the
if the Angel said, listen, hey, we you know, we
realize we missed the deadline. That's our fault. We were
doing some other things. We want to trade, show Heyotani.
Is it better for baseball than Otani plays the last
six weeks on the dodge in obscurity with the Angels
(02:00):
now seven and a half back of the of the
wild card, Or is it better that he plays someplace
where maybe he can go and do some damage and
and they can win. That's better Baseball should say scot
Rob Mavericker and say, hey, I'm instituting a one time
show Hao Tani trade deadline. Uh and the Angels have
another week to trade show Hao Tani. Now you do it.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
I'm on board. I mean there's very few teams that
would get involved, because I mean the Dodgers just ended
any at all. Extinguished I think would be the proper term.
The padres. Although I really want one of those hats
that gave out today. Those look like they would be
pretty good detective words.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
I get the logo on try give it away over again.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Funny.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
We've got people that we know that can embroider any
patch over what they put on that.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
It were up five nothing.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Well, you got to spot bad teams, uh, those kind
of runs. But uh, I think that would be fun.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Here we go.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
It's the new rule. The first week of August, right
a week after the deadline. The commissioner gets to just
give an edict and he goes in and he draws
four names on it.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
You can be traded to one of these four teams
at the Boys and Girls Club, right right, no.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Right, whatever we need to do to really get everybody
on board with this. Uh in Otani's sake, it would
be the or one gets randomly chosen, like it's a
sorting hat.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
All the team send somebody and they put the well
puts the hat.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Yeah, not the Mets, ah there not the Mets.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Not the Mets. Not the Mets.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Got the Mets.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
That would just be.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Your new team is Dodger.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
The hat doesn't even get on Dave roberts head, like
when they put it on Malfoy Slytherin. The hat is
going on. Dodgers are all right, that's what it is.
They don't even get to the s and Dave Roberts
already takes him out.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
By the way, you will never pitch past the fifth
inning for me.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
It's never happening. Not doing it, never gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
For him.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
We got lancelike so he does when he's sound. We
remember him at his finest, and then in Chicago you
saw glimpses of that. He had some big moments, a
lot of home runs allowed, and that's fine when they're
solo shots.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Had at it. He's like park Man.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Yeah, he eats, he eats. He's eating for the Dodge.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
A one time only trade deadline where they get to
move him.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
But it's a twenty four hour special y MLB Network
and it's made for TV program.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Here you go.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Here he's sleeping and when he wakes up, he'll have
a new tea.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Dude, I dig that sorting hating, Like that's pretty be
really cool.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
We gotta find out we got to figure out the
thirty voices though.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Yeah, well who do you send? Right, Like, who do
you got to send somebody? You think that the sorting
hat is gonna like?
Speaker 3 (04:59):
But wait, with the history of each team, right, I mean,
because look, I mean one of the big things that
I love, the late great Tommy Lesorda for those listening
locally on AM five to seventy LA Sports, I mean,
that guy could sell you anything. Sure, Like we watched
Live in a Living Color Frostburg right when we usued
to go over there for the marathons raising money for
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the paralyzed vets, and he'd get on the phone and
he'd be like, twenty dollars, twenty dollars, but this is America,
and he'd started like the Baseball Classic whatever. Like, that
guy could sell you on anything. So he's the Dodgers,
oh right there, and then we just start going Keith Hernandez,
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you know, I was on side though, I have a
great mustache and he starts selling, or it would be
Bartolo Colonne.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Maybe it would all work work.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
I mean, we have to have a rep for each team.
I think it's great. I think this. You know, if
you got ideas at how about a fresco at swollen
dome on X?
Speaker 4 (05:58):
The White Sox just don't send you.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Well, you know what, they're the sleeper team, and it
all justin.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
He don't keep fighting the sorting hat, the sorting hat.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
As why is he shaking the hats?
Speaker 1 (06:09):
He just ripped the sorting hat in half. Oh my goodness. Uh,
it had to be carried off The Jason Smith Show
with Mike Carmon Live from the tirec dot Com Studios.
Yanke Dad, yank Yankees would send my dad. Sure, we're
not gonna win anything. Uh, mister Smith, can you take
your Yankee had off to put this hat on? I'm
not putting that out on me. Well, well then we
can't do it. Fine, I'm gonna go have coffee. Then
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my dad would get up and walk away. I'm watching that.
So the biggest NFL, the biggest baseball story, it's really
the biggest story that That's that's hit sports in the
last few hours has been the story surrounding Orioles broadcaster
Kevin Brown, who was suspended by the team on July
twenty third. The story has just gotten out now because
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it's just been confirmed by a lot of different sites.
ESPN has the story. John o Ran from Sports Business
Journal had it earlier that they didn't lie how he
voiced over during a preview before the Tampa Bay Rays
game in July twenty third, the lack of Orioles' success
at the trop over the past few years. It had
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been thirteen series since the last time they won a
series at the Trap. The last time. Brad Brock, who
now does broadcasting for the Orioles, was the winning pitcher
at that game, and it was just a pre produced
bit for the pregame show that hey, we haven't done
well when we've been there the last the last few years,
and here's what it is. And he got suspended because
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of it because apparently someone high up in the Oars,
whether it's the front office or John Angelos, didn't like
the negativity that was brought on the team. And one
of the aspects we've talked about with this story is
that this was something that he really was thrown under
the bus for because this wasn't something that he decided
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to go off script on. This wasn't something that he said,
screw it, I'm just gonna rant on this. This was
a produced part of the show where he read off
a screen. He read off because they had they had
the graphics up, they had the font. You kid had
the funt, they had the font, they were playing the
music under underneath. That's it. This was this is a
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thing the Orioles did, right, this is what we did.
And they suspended.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Them and they cut their contract with mass and like
they're a PAC twelve team and.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
This mouse and this is really embarrassing because this is
the Orioles and this is them hanging him out to dry.
Because this wasn't something he went rogue on. This is
a plan for the for the show. This is something
everybody was in on, and whether it was his idea
to do it or not, this is still something. Hey,
we planned it and went through it. We're doing it
on the show. The producer directors, you had so many
people onto this and we talked about how trust me,
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it happens. You get hung out to dry by broadcast partners,
and when you work for a team sometimes they can
be really unrealistic in what they expect from you. On
the end, they always want you to say something positive
about the team and something. But the other part of
it is is that, yeah, sometimes you get hung out
to dry and it really sucks. And I told you
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the next twelve to sixteen hours you're going to see
a lot of people tell similar stories on podcasts, on
on on radio shows, on TV shows. This thing has
now twenty six million views on Twitter, which is which
is what he said. So if we play, let's play
it right here, can I'll tell you a story about
leaving somebody hung out to dry? Go ahead for the Orioles.
Speaker 5 (09:26):
Brandon Heid has felt like this has been maybe the
toughest ballpark to play in. But the Orioles have a
chance to do something special today. They've already clinched at
least as split in the series, winning two of the
first three, and they could pick up a series win
behind Tyler Wells today.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
It's been a minute.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
The Orioles split a two gamer with the Rays in June.
They had lost their last fifteen series here at Tropicatafield.
You have to go back to when our now colleague
brat Brock picked up the win in the series finale
June twenty fifth, twenty seventeen, the last time the Orioles
won a series. Here in sam b we already got
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three and two of the chop this year after winning
three of eighteen the previous three years. Come fine, it
is a stark difference, Ben, and it.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Is not a bad race team.
Speaker 5 (10:14):
It's not like all of a sudden the race became
slouches in the American leagueest They've led this division every day.
But now two and the Orioles once again our back
alone in first place.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Yeah all right, So there it is on maasn and
here he is being hung out to dry because all
was negative. There was nothing wrong with it. And again
it was a produced thing and it was red on
the air. Okay, Yeah, it's.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Too bad that Masson doesn't get credit for all the
hits instead of on their whips.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
So awful announcements to be the biggest most watched video
in the history of the website. Look at that we're
going into venture capitalists. Look at the amount of news
we can get. Awful announcing who loves our show? By
the way, they put us up there. We used to
put us up there all the time when they did
the hot takes. Oh they loved our show.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Wow, well, we just need to start screaming nonsense again.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
You think it doesn't happen, but I'll tell you. I'll
tell you a story where that happens. So years ago,
I had a really fun gig on Sundays working for
Direct TV on Fantasy Zone, which was a show was
just like Red Zone, except for Fantasy it's been on
the air. I don't know where it's going to go now.
I have no idea. I haven't worked there in a
long time, in like seven years.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
But be sure to catch live editions of The Jason
Smith Show with Mike harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern,
seven pm Pacific.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
During my last year there, there was a case during
one of the late games where it was the Saints
and the Cardinals and mark Ingram was in the game
for the Saints and he ran the ball a few
times and they got down to the one yard line
and they took him out of the game. And so
my job on the show was to do Red Zone stuff,
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was to do Red Zone, take you to and from
the action and give you highlights, analysis, fun stuff, everything.
So we're watching the game and they show him and
he's screaming at one of the assistant coaches. They're screaming
at each other. I'm like, whoa, what is going on here?
So my producer producer gets in my ear and says, Okay,
I got it. Ingram's got a clause in his contract
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for touchdowns, and he's really pissed. They took him out
of the game. And I said, wow, really, and he
said yes, And I said we can go with this,
and he said yes, and I said okay, and I
waited and anybody who was there for this will tell you,
We'll tell you the same thing. And I said, we waited,
and I said all right, and then we get ready
to show the highlight and everything else. I said, you're sure.
He goes, yes, I got it, we got it, we
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got it. You can do it. So I said, okay.
So I did the highlight. Here's mark Ingram and he's
mad because he's got this clause in his contract where
he gets paid more money for touchdowns. He's mad they
took him out of the game. And I tweeted out right,
and it goes viral. It was a huge deal, and
it became this controversy because the Saints. I don't know,
(12:47):
see I still don't know how it ever turned out,
but the Saints didn't like it.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
And Sean Payton is a bit of a chap ass. Yeah,
come to find out, but the Saints.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Didn't like it. No one could find whether it was
whether it was true or not. There was nothing on it.
There was no It was just one of those things
that happened. And I think some people were upset about it,
but I don't know. The Saints were outset. Now mark
Ingram now works for Fox.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Can we have it one?
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Yeah, it'd be great. I could do this right. So
but here's where the story get get gets crazy. So
the show ends and there's a little bit of a
discrepancy as to the truth of that report. And I'm like, okay,
well we got it. You know, we got it from
you know, I got it from the from the my
control room, and so I said it. So the whole
week goes by and you and I were on the
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air when this is happening, and I'm like, I don't
know what's going on. Like people from the Saints are saying,
where'd you get this? Delete this tweet. What's happening? It
was a thing like the Saints called and they called
DirecTV and all this. I'm going, Wow, this sucks. I
don't want to be in direct TV this week because boy,
you know, I don't I don't know what they would,
you know, I don't know how they're going to react
to this. So the whole week goes by and I
don't hear anything, you know, and I'm like, okay, I
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guess it was solved. I'm you know, I'm texting with
some of my friends. My producer who came there goes, yeah,
I don't know, I don't know what happened. Okay. So
Sunday morning, I goin to go do the show. Now
I'm on the air for seven and a half hours,
seven and a half hours. I go in and my
manager calls me into his office like a half hour
before we go on there he said, I got to
talk to you about something, and I said okay, And
I'm saying to myself, he is not bringing me in
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here a half hour before I go on the air
for seven and a half hours to tell me about
something crazy with mark Ingram. And I go in there
and he says the mark ingram thing was a bad thing.
It was really bad. And you know, you could have
done something for it. And I said, what did you
want me to do for it? He goes, you could
have said, you know, the thing is you tweeted it out.
I go, yeah, because you gave me the information, right,
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he's yeah, but you know you could have said, oh,
that's what I heard. That was this. I go, I go,
I didn't know you gave it to me. I said,
I'm not an insider.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
I'm not doing the ey that's what I heard.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
I said, I'm not an insider. You gave me the information.
And he goes, yeah, but you could have just said it.
You could have just said, oh, this is what I
heard this and he gets really missed. Now I expect
you to go out there and be a professional next
seven and a half hours. And I go, dude, you
know what I want to tell you right now out
Are you serious? Are you serious? You gave me the information?
And I double checked. I asked twice, Am I okay
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to say this? And I said it? And then now
you're yelling at me. Probably because he got yelled at
by the Saints or by whoever else it was that
he got really and he got yet and instead of
taking it because that was on him, that was on
the that was on the crew that gave me that info,
it's my fault because I tweeted it out and I said,
I said it on the air. What's the difference if
I tweeted out or not is well, there's there's a
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record of it. And I go, I said it on
the air.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
I go, there's a record everywhere that gets a race
as soon as every soon as it goes thanks for watching,
We'll see you next week.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
It doesn't exist anymore.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Don't you know that he wanted me to take the
fall for that when it was him giving me the information.
And I said, and the last thing I said was,
I said, just so I'm clear on this. When announcer
goes on ESPN and says something, if they get it wrong,
is that that guy's fault or is it the fault
of the production crew that that figured that out and
told him to say it. And you just said you
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could have just said something. You could have I'm like, oh,
you're you're You're terrible man. You are too. You want
me to take the fall for this because it's on you,
and it's on who told me to say this? And
now it's my fault. But this is what happens. You
get hung out to dry, and it happens that way,
and a really valuable lesson that point. I was like, wow,
that is under I should have done something and try
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to take care of it during the week, but I
didn't hear anything because I didn't think it was mine.
I didn't think I was involved in it. It was yeah,
you gave it to me, so I said it. Why
is everybody mad at me? Well, what the hell did
I do? I did nothing? H So there you go.
I kick it off. That's the first of many stories
you'll hear about broadcasting and what teams say, control what
they want you to say, hanging you out to dry,
(16:40):
It happens, It happens, It happens.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Roll those eyes, Jay. This concert is over. This concert's over,
but the tour lever and play the songs anymore.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
The song we don't.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Have to play because of concert's over. The concert's over.
Else is over.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
Oh, season that's been over and the US women's team
at the World Cups over too.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
He's not wrong.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon
live from the Tirec dot Com studios. One day you'll
learn to love him.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
No, I won't, Jason, this band has more hits than
the women score goals man too soon.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Well, yeah, they had about three hits. They scored four goal.
Yeah it's close. Yeah. Sure. Now, look, let's have a
good conversation or or let's have a meaty INDEPTHN meeting
about the US women's national team right now out of
the World Cup after losing to Sweden yesterday. You and
I both got up at two o'clock in the morning
to watch the game. It was fun.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
It was fun.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
I got to do the.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
Catharsis of coming into the Fox Sports radio studios and screaming.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
But it was fun. You know, how often do you
get to get up for a sporting event at two o'clock.
It's a fun thing. I was like, yeah, I just
hope i'm when I set my alarm after a couple hours,
I don't wake up and go just I'll just watch
it tomorrow on DVR.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
No, Dad, I got up avoiding because there's no way
you were avoiding this end no, no, if your phone
to any social media app or news source, it was done.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Oh and I didn't fall asleep till like well after five.
It was a three hour game of penalties and everything.
And there's so many things that have that have been
broken down. So we'll give you something a little bit new,
a little bit different after losing. The biggest thing that
surprises me after this, the first thing is the amount
of hate that is out there for the US women's
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national team. And I don't just mean the political hate,
because you go on social media and find everybody that
is happy the US women's team lost because they don't
like Meghan Rappino because she's too woke, and you know,
the team kneels for the anthem and nobody likes that.
I'm not even talking about that because that I expect, right,
because we're we're a society now where we can't just
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be on opposite sides of the aisles politically without hating
the other person. So it's either you either believe the
same things I believe, or I hate you and I'm sorry,
but we're all in this together. We should figure out
a way because whether whatever you and I believe politically,
whatever you and I have, we still are all in
this together, right, But we can't do that anymore. No,
(19:27):
if you're not on my side politically, you're my enemy.
So I get that hate for Rapina. I mean, these
aren't people that watch the game. These are people who
woke up.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Good.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
I'm glad the United States lost. I don't mean those well.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
And it's good for rallying your base of listeners, fans, supporters,
would be voters, etc. I mean, it's like it's it's
playbook one oh one. Sure, sure, bowing to your audience.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
But that I get. I understand that because that's a
society we're in right now, right, Like I get the
rooting against America because you're not part of my America.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
Like legitimately, I could have written a top five of
people I expect their reactions and I would have gone
five for five. You want to talk about a perfect.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Score, but look and it doesn't. And this is both
sides of the aisle. Politically, you're not a part of
what I want. So now you're my enemy. So I
get that. But the personal criticism, because I feel like
it was personal from so many people in the media
with their criticism of the national team. Carly Lloyd saying that, look,
they're wearing all new Nike tracksuits and they're doing commercials,
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and they've doing commercials before they've earned it, and Alexi
Lawless is echoing the same things, and Bill Simmons saying
Alex Morgan's never been a star. She's a coach's kid
from Ayso who is who the coach is always playing
their their daughter at striker And I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa?
Why suddenly is this personal? They lost and did you
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bet on them and you lost money? I don't I
don't get where this is. I get the criticism and
I get being fair about it, but so much of
it's over the top. It's like they were waiting for
them to fail. I want to see you fail so
I can criticize you well.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
With Simmons say that might be the case because the
first time I've heard his name mentioned in anything in
a while. When it comes to to Lloyd and Lawless,
I have to believe that they're they're a little more
dialed in, particularly Carly Lloyd, right with the way the
team has grown, the way it's matured, and these women
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that we've watched for the last decade plus are now
towards their endgame. And the approach is different, clearly different
than it had been in terms of embracing that media side.
And look, it's it's been a cash cow. We've watched
it grow. Look at you know, the equal pay and
look at what the payouts were, or what three hundred
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grand a team member and all of those things. But
when you talk about endorsements at all, it means you've arrived.
And sometimes you know, you start getting into de Andre
Agassi images everything side, and and it doesn't reflect the hunger, right,
it's rocky when it went all of a sudden, it's
all the good thing and it's like you ain't hungry anymore, right,
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you lost the eye of the tiger. And I think
that's kind of where Lloyd was at in that the focus. Yeah,
once you're on the pitch, you're there, but in terms
of team building and everything else that maybe it was
a little more individual individualistic in things. I mean, look again,
I'm not trying to play mind reader, but I could
see where, you know, from her vantage point, having been
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in that locker room, having been through the grind with
some of these women that perhaps that's I mean, look,
you always hang a star on it. There might be
some personal animus that is certainly still there. But I
think rather than the rest of the commentators that went
to the personal attacks, I think those two, having been
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in the arena, maybe I take what they're saying a
little more.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
I don't. I'm pretty sure that the Sweetish players have
commercials in Sweden. I'm pretty sure the keeper is going
to go back and have a whole bunch of commercials. Uh.
And I'm pretty sure that Adonovsky is not blowing off
practice to take the team to David Busters. You know,
I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure they're they're practice. So
you're shooting commercials. I mean, are you upset that you
didn't you're not in on this invention of the women's
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national team where it did young players like Trinity Robin
who haven't accomplished anything, or Sophia that they have commercials. Yeah,
I say a little bit of that. The person the
personal nature of it is there that it seems like, oh,
you don't deserve to win, so I want to see
you lose so I can criticize you that was over
the line. If you want to get real, hey, we
told you how this was going to go for the
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United States a month before the World Cup. We told
you that where the goal is going to come from.
Rapina was not nearly the player she was. She's only
going to play a few minutes, and boy, she looked
like she was done. Alex Morgan, is she still an
elite striker? Is she still an elite goal scorer? I
don't know that she is. And if she's not, where
are the goals going to come from? That's the number
(24:02):
one concern. Where are they going to come from? And
what happened? The United States, outside of Vietnam, scored one
goal in their last three games, right, So this was
not that. This was not something that we didn't see coming.
And I even said, Hey, what really burts me the most,
or makes me nervous the most, is that we're going
to play teams that are going to play for penalties
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against us, and it's a crapshoot and we're going to lose.
And that's exactly what happened. You can see the tweet.
It's out there. We talked about it, You and I
talked about it a month ago, there's no scorers, and
you're going to get to the knockout round and we're
going to get to penalties, which you're a crapshoot. And
as you saw the millimeter whatever it was, the winning
goals scored on a listener yesterday. The thing is is
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that this United States team is just not that good.
And that's what people don't understand. The Swedish keeper had
a good game. She had eleven saves. Two of them
were pretty tough, but the rest were some easy shots,
so once she was able to deflect. We have no finishers. Finishers,
and that's the big issue. Just because Sophia Smith and
Trinity Rodman are playing with the national team, and Trinity
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Rodman has the famous dad and everything else and she's
in commercials, doesn't mean she's a great player. But she's
on the women's national team because hey, she's good enough.
They're taking the best players. This team is just not
good enough, and we expected them to be good just
because they've always been good. Since two thousand or nineteen
ninety nine when they won the World Cup and Brandy
Chastain had the goal, they've been the best team in
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the world and they've won World Cups, they've won Olympics.
They don't win every time, but eighty percent of the
time they win a World Cup, they win the Olympics.
This is just an era now in which we don't
have the same talented players. Sophia Smith and Trinity Rodman
are not Megan Rapino and Alex Morgan. They're not Abby Womback.
They're not Mia Hann, they're not Julie Faudi, they're not
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Michelle Akers. They're not Hoped That, You're not Hope Solo
and Brianna Scurry. They're just not. We think they are
because they're playing on the women's team, and we just think, well,
young superstars, okay, they advance up, become the older superstars.
Younger ones come in, they score. Go No, we're just
not that good. You see, the other nations are all
faster than we are, and that was a big problem
for us against Sweden. Like Lindsay Horan had so much
(26:10):
difficulty in millle Field because she's not fast. So Fia
Smith and Trinity Robin for a little bit did okay
because they were fast, but overall you had to sub
out Trinity Rodman and Sophia Smith couldn't finish as you saw,
not ready for the moment in the in the penalty.
So this is the tough part because now there's nobody
coming to the rescue for the United States. There's no well,
(26:32):
we're waiting for this young striker to finish playing for
the U twenty one and what No, there's no big
stars on the horizon. We've always been able to replace
stars with other stars, and that's why we've gone from
Ham and Foudy and Acres and Scurry to Solo and
Wanmback and Rapino and then here comes and then a
few years ago, here comes Alex Morgan and Rose Level
(26:53):
and now we just don't have that. It just happens
to be one of those down cycles. And it's going
to be six years before we get to a point
potential we could be the dominant team in the world again.
We'll still be good, we'll still be really good, but
not the dominant team because there's nobody on the horizon.
Next year we're gonna play the Olympics. It's gonna go
like this.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
Well, but that's the curiosity going forward. Will they ever
be dominant again?
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Is that air stars again?
Speaker 3 (27:16):
But it's that era done in terms of being able
to just say, hey, we're the US and we roll up.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Right.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
We watched Japan, we watched some of these other daments.
Look at the Swedish team. They struggled for about a
half of their first half of the tournament and then
they've been rolling ever since. And the one thing in
the United States did well was they limited what Sweden
does best. Well, it didn't matter because you couldn't put
a ball in the back.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
And then they had three corners in the first five minutes.
No more corner, No more corners.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
That was that was literally it and coming into the
match right of their nine goals in the tournament, seven
of them came off of set pieces.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Look, the United States is still talented to play well
against the best teams. But when you can't score, when
you can't finish, that's what I'm saying, Sophia Smith and
Robin at these players, they're not superstars now. So it's
gonna be a struggle and until that next generation of
scorers and those until we get the next Rappino and Morgan.
And it's not like you get them all the time.
And while I'm backing it's gonna be a while.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
Well, but it's it's also the changing of the guard, right,
the maturation of the rest of the field is certainly there.
We look at this odd mix of old, young, and
not a lot in the middle in terms of this roster,
and maybe a disconnect in terms of camaraderie. And I
think that's something Lloyd was kind of alluding to a
(28:33):
little bit as well, that you've got this chasm there
that try to bridge. You got not a lot of
time to work together because you're in the middle of
your end.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
And that's a big thing too. All the other nations
got all their their players working together. You gotta let
those You gotta let the players go, Hey, we gotta
win the world.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
We need a month, we need you know, six weeks,
whatever it is. Instead, it was all right, you played
your last NWS al game, say goodbye. They're gonna get
on a plane. They're gonna go meet in La and
then they're gonna fly.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Across the Angel City in Portland. Have a big game
coming up. But the best players need to be there
and you need to have time to do so.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
So it's that kind of thing that that also I
don't I don't think helped the process along the way.
Excuses add add injuries and missing a number of players,
but in the end you couldn't finish. And now you
look at the way the rest of this tournament has
set up, and watching where some of these other nations are,
I'm not so uh so ready to believe that the
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return to dominance is imminent
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you heard Seed disager mention it a few moments ago.
The Angels give up how many of the ninth twelve thirteen,
one hundred and two six and the ninth they lose
to the Giants. They have still not won since the
trade deadline, since they decided to keep show. Heyotani, and
I say to you, it's completely against the rules. Yeah,
(01:11):
but if the Angel said, hey, we want to have
a due over. We want to trade Otani. Who says no.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Dude, who says no, What have we been watching in
college athletics.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
There's no rules.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Contracts don't matter, agreements don't matter, history, tradition, what you've
done forever. Look at what Major League Baseball did this offseason.
They changed a bunch of stuff last minute. Who's the
hell's to say you can't do it in the middle
of the season. It's like, you know what special rules,
special people.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
I'm telling you, man. Nobody says no, I know it's
against the rules. It's not right, it's not right. No, absolutely,
one hundred percent, you guys are correct. But if the
if the Angel said, listen, hey, we you know, we
realize we missed the deadline. That's our fault. We were
doing some other things. We want to trade, show Heyotani.
Is it better for baseball than Otani plays the last
six weeks on the dodge in obscurity with the Angels
(02:00):
now seven and a half back of the of the
wild card, Or is it better that he plays someplace
where maybe he can go and do some damage and
and they can win. That's better Baseball should say scot
Rob Mavericker and say, hey, I'm instituting a one time
show Hao Tani trade deadline. Uh and the Angels have
another week to trade show Hao Tani. Now you do it.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
I'm on board. I mean there's very few teams that
would get involved, because I mean the Dodgers just ended
any at all. Extinguished I think would be the proper term.
The padres. Although I really want one of those hats
that gave out today. Those look like they would be
pretty good detective words.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
I get the logo on try give it away over again.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Funny.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
We've got people that we know that can embroider any
patch over what they put on that.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
It were up five nothing.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Well, you got to spot bad teams, uh, those kind
of runs. But uh, I think that would be fun.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Here we go.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
It's the new rule. The first week of August, right
a week after the deadline. The commissioner gets to just
give an edict and he goes in and he draws
four names on it.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
You can be traded to one of these four teams
at the Boys and Girls Club, right right, no.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Right, whatever we need to do to really get everybody
on board with this. Uh in Otani's sake, it would
be the or one gets randomly chosen, like it's a
sorting hat.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
All the team send somebody and they put the well
puts the hat.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Yeah, not the Mets, ah there not the Mets.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Not the Mets. Not the Mets.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Got the Mets.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
That would just be.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Your new team is Dodger.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
The hat doesn't even get on Dave roberts head, like
when they put it on Malfoy Slytherin. The hat is
going on. Dodgers are all right, that's what it is.
They don't even get to the s and Dave Roberts
already takes him out.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
By the way, you will never pitch past the fifth
inning for me.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
It's never happening. Not doing it, never gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
For him.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
We got lancelike so he does when he's sound. We
remember him at his finest, and then in Chicago you
saw glimpses of that. He had some big moments, a
lot of home runs allowed, and that's fine when they're
solo shots.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Had at it. He's like park Man.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Yeah, he eats, he eats. He's eating for the Dodge.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
A one time only trade deadline where they get to
move him.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
But it's a twenty four hour special y MLB Network
and it's made for TV program.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Here you go.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Here he's sleeping and when he wakes up, he'll have
a new tea.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Dude, I dig that sorting hating, Like that's pretty be
really cool.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
We gotta find out we got to figure out the
thirty voices though.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Yeah, well who do you send? Right, Like, who do
you got to send somebody? You think that the sorting
hat is gonna like?
Speaker 3 (04:59):
But wait, with the history of each team, right, I mean,
because look, I mean one of the big things that
I love, the late great Tommy Lesorda for those listening
locally on AM five to seventy LA Sports, I mean,
that guy could sell you anything. Sure, Like we watched
Live in a Living Color Frostburg right when we usued
to go over there for the marathons raising money for
(05:21):
the paralyzed vets, and he'd get on the phone and
he'd be like, twenty dollars, twenty dollars, but this is America,
and he'd started like the Baseball Classic whatever. Like, that
guy could sell you on anything. So he's the Dodgers,
oh right there, and then we just start going Keith Hernandez,
(05:42):
you know, I was on side though, I have a
great mustache and he starts selling, or it would be
Bartolo Colonne.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Maybe it would all work work.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
I mean, we have to have a rep for each team.
I think it's great. I think this. You know, if
you got ideas at how about a fresco at swollen
dome on X?
Speaker 4 (05:58):
The White Sox just don't send you.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Well, you know what, they're the sleeper team, and it
all justin.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
He don't keep fighting the sorting hat, the sorting hat.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
As why is he shaking the hats?
Speaker 1 (06:09):
He just ripped the sorting hat in half. Oh my goodness. Uh,
it had to be carried off The Jason Smith Show
with Mike Carmon Live from the tirec dot Com Studios.
Yanke Dad, yank Yankees would send my dad. Sure, we're
not gonna win anything. Uh, mister Smith, can you take
your Yankee had off to put this hat on? I'm
not putting that out on me. Well, well then we
can't do it. Fine, I'm gonna go have coffee. Then
(06:30):
my dad would get up and walk away. I'm watching that.
So the biggest NFL, the biggest baseball story, it's really
the biggest story that That's that's hit sports in the
last few hours has been the story surrounding Orioles broadcaster
Kevin Brown, who was suspended by the team on July
twenty third. The story has just gotten out now because
(06:52):
it's just been confirmed by a lot of different sites.
ESPN has the story. John o Ran from Sports Business
Journal had it earlier that they didn't lie how he
voiced over during a preview before the Tampa Bay Rays
game in July twenty third, the lack of Orioles' success
at the trop over the past few years. It had
(07:13):
been thirteen series since the last time they won a
series at the Trap. The last time. Brad Brock, who
now does broadcasting for the Orioles, was the winning pitcher
at that game, and it was just a pre produced
bit for the pregame show that hey, we haven't done
well when we've been there the last the last few years,
and here's what it is. And he got suspended because
(07:34):
of it because apparently someone high up in the Oars,
whether it's the front office or John Angelos, didn't like
the negativity that was brought on the team. And one
of the aspects we've talked about with this story is
that this was something that he really was thrown under
the bus for because this wasn't something that he decided
(07:54):
to go off script on. This wasn't something that he said,
screw it, I'm just gonna rant on this. This was
a produced part of the show where he read off
a screen. He read off because they had they had
the graphics up, they had the font. You kid had
the funt, they had the font, they were playing the
music under underneath. That's it. This was this is a
(08:15):
thing the Orioles did, right, this is what we did.
And they suspended.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Them and they cut their contract with mass and like
they're a PAC twelve team and.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
This mouse and this is really embarrassing because this is
the Orioles and this is them hanging him out to dry.
Because this wasn't something he went rogue on. This is
a plan for the for the show. This is something
everybody was in on, and whether it was his idea
to do it or not, this is still something. Hey,
we planned it and went through it. We're doing it
on the show. The producer directors, you had so many
people onto this and we talked about how trust me,
(08:44):
it happens. You get hung out to dry by broadcast partners,
and when you work for a team sometimes they can
be really unrealistic in what they expect from you. On
the end, they always want you to say something positive
about the team and something. But the other part of
it is is that, yeah, sometimes you get hung out
to dry and it really sucks. And I told you
(09:05):
the next twelve to sixteen hours you're going to see
a lot of people tell similar stories on podcasts, on
on on radio shows, on TV shows. This thing has
now twenty six million views on Twitter, which is which
is what he said. So if we play, let's play
it right here, can I'll tell you a story about
leaving somebody hung out to dry? Go ahead for the Orioles.
Speaker 5 (09:26):
Brandon Heid has felt like this has been maybe the
toughest ballpark to play in. But the Orioles have a
chance to do something special today. They've already clinched at
least as split in the series, winning two of the
first three, and they could pick up a series win
behind Tyler Wells today.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
It's been a minute.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
The Orioles split a two gamer with the Rays in June.
They had lost their last fifteen series here at Tropicatafield.
You have to go back to when our now colleague
brat Brock picked up the win in the series finale
June twenty fifth, twenty seventeen, the last time the Orioles
won a series. Here in sam b we already got
(10:04):
three and two of the chop this year after winning
three of eighteen the previous three years. Come fine, it
is a stark difference, Ben, and it.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Is not a bad race team.
Speaker 5 (10:14):
It's not like all of a sudden the race became
slouches in the American leagueest They've led this division every day.
But now two and the Orioles once again our back
alone in first place.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Yeah all right, So there it is on maasn and
here he is being hung out to dry because all
was negative. There was nothing wrong with it. And again
it was a produced thing and it was red on
the air. Okay, Yeah, it's.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Too bad that Masson doesn't get credit for all the
hits instead of on their whips.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
So awful announcements to be the biggest most watched video
in the history of the website. Look at that we're
going into venture capitalists. Look at the amount of news
we can get. Awful announcing who loves our show? By
the way, they put us up there. We used to
put us up there all the time when they did
the hot takes. Oh they loved our show.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Wow, well, we just need to start screaming nonsense again.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
You think it doesn't happen, but I'll tell you. I'll
tell you a story where that happens. So years ago,
I had a really fun gig on Sundays working for
Direct TV on Fantasy Zone, which was a show was
just like Red Zone, except for Fantasy it's been on
the air. I don't know where it's going to go now.
I have no idea. I haven't worked there in a
long time, in like seven years.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
But be sure to catch live editions of The Jason
Smith Show with Mike harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern,
seven pm Pacific.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
During my last year there, there was a case during
one of the late games where it was the Saints
and the Cardinals and mark Ingram was in the game
for the Saints and he ran the ball a few
times and they got down to the one yard line
and they took him out of the game. And so
my job on the show was to do Red Zone stuff,
(11:46):
was to do Red Zone, take you to and from
the action and give you highlights, analysis, fun stuff, everything.
So we're watching the game and they show him and
he's screaming at one of the assistant coaches. They're screaming
at each other. I'm like, whoa, what is going on here?
So my producer producer gets in my ear and says, Okay,
I got it. Ingram's got a clause in his contract
(12:06):
for touchdowns, and he's really pissed. They took him out
of the game. And I said, wow, really, and he
said yes, And I said we can go with this,
and he said yes, and I said okay, and I
waited and anybody who was there for this will tell you,
We'll tell you the same thing. And I said, we waited,
and I said all right, and then we get ready
to show the highlight and everything else. I said, you're sure.
He goes, yes, I got it, we got it, we
(12:27):
got it. You can do it. So I said, okay.
So I did the highlight. Here's mark Ingram and he's
mad because he's got this clause in his contract where
he gets paid more money for touchdowns. He's mad they
took him out of the game. And I tweeted out right,
and it goes viral. It was a huge deal, and
it became this controversy because the Saints. I don't know,
(12:47):
see I still don't know how it ever turned out,
but the Saints didn't like it.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
And Sean Payton is a bit of a chap ass. Yeah,
come to find out, but the Saints.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Didn't like it. No one could find whether it was
whether it was true or not. There was nothing on it.
There was no It was just one of those things
that happened. And I think some people were upset about it,
but I don't know. The Saints were outset. Now mark
Ingram now works for Fox.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Can we have it one?
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Yeah, it'd be great. I could do this right. So
but here's where the story get get gets crazy. So
the show ends and there's a little bit of a
discrepancy as to the truth of that report. And I'm like, okay,
well we got it. You know, we got it from
you know, I got it from the from the my
control room, and so I said it. So the whole
week goes by and you and I were on the
(13:31):
air when this is happening, and I'm like, I don't
know what's going on. Like people from the Saints are saying,
where'd you get this? Delete this tweet. What's happening? It
was a thing like the Saints called and they called
DirecTV and all this. I'm going, Wow, this sucks. I
don't want to be in direct TV this week because boy,
you know, I don't I don't know what they would,
you know, I don't know how they're going to react
to this. So the whole week goes by and I
don't hear anything, you know, and I'm like, okay, I
(13:52):
guess it was solved. I'm you know, I'm texting with
some of my friends. My producer who came there goes, yeah,
I don't know, I don't know what happened. Okay. So
Sunday morning, I goin to go do the show. Now
I'm on the air for seven and a half hours,
seven and a half hours. I go in and my
manager calls me into his office like a half hour
before we go on there he said, I got to
talk to you about something, and I said okay, And
I'm saying to myself, he is not bringing me in
(14:14):
here a half hour before I go on the air
for seven and a half hours to tell me about
something crazy with mark Ingram. And I go in there
and he says the mark ingram thing was a bad thing.
It was really bad. And you know, you could have
done something for it. And I said, what did you
want me to do for it? He goes, you could
have said, you know, the thing is you tweeted it out.
I go, yeah, because you gave me the information, right,
(14:35):
he's yeah, but you know you could have said, oh,
that's what I heard. That was this. I go, I go,
I didn't know you gave it to me. I said,
I'm not an insider.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
I'm not doing the ey that's what I heard.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
I said, I'm not an insider. You gave me the information.
And he goes, yeah, but you could have just said it.
You could have just said, oh, this is what I
heard this and he gets really missed. Now I expect
you to go out there and be a professional next
seven and a half hours. And I go, dude, you
know what I want to tell you right now out
Are you serious? Are you serious? You gave me the information?
And I double checked. I asked twice, Am I okay
(15:06):
to say this? And I said it? And then now
you're yelling at me. Probably because he got yelled at
by the Saints or by whoever else it was that
he got really and he got yet and instead of
taking it because that was on him, that was on
the that was on the crew that gave me that info,
it's my fault because I tweeted it out and I said,
I said it on the air. What's the difference if
I tweeted out or not is well, there's there's a
(15:28):
record of it. And I go, I said it on
the air.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
I go, there's a record everywhere that gets a race
as soon as every soon as it goes thanks for watching,
We'll see you next week.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
It doesn't exist anymore.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Don't you know that he wanted me to take the
fall for that when it was him giving me the information.
And I said, and the last thing I said was,
I said, just so I'm clear on this. When announcer
goes on ESPN and says something, if they get it wrong,
is that that guy's fault or is it the fault
of the production crew that that figured that out and
told him to say it. And you just said you
(16:00):
could have just said something. You could have I'm like, oh,
you're you're You're terrible man. You are too. You want
me to take the fall for this because it's on you,
and it's on who told me to say this? And
now it's my fault. But this is what happens. You
get hung out to dry, and it happens that way,
and a really valuable lesson that point. I was like, wow,
that is under I should have done something and try
(16:20):
to take care of it during the week, but I
didn't hear anything because I didn't think it was mine.
I didn't think I was involved in it. It was yeah,
you gave it to me, so I said it. Why
is everybody mad at me? Well, what the hell did
I do? I did nothing? H So there you go.
I kick it off. That's the first of many stories
you'll hear about broadcasting and what teams say, control what
they want you to say, hanging you out to dry,
(16:40):
It happens, It happens, It happens.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
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Speaker 1 (16:50):
Roll those eyes, Jay. This concert is over. This concert's over,
but the tour lever and play the songs anymore.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
The song we don't.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Have to play because of concert's over. The concert's over.
Else is over.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
Oh, season that's been over and the US women's team
at the World Cups over too.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
He's not wrong.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
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Speaker 4 (17:27):
No, I won't, Jason, this band has more hits than
the women score goals man too soon.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Well, yeah, they had about three hits. They scored four goal.
Yeah it's close. Yeah. Sure. Now, look, let's have a
good conversation or or let's have a meaty INDEPTHN meeting
about the US women's national team right now out of
the World Cup after losing to Sweden yesterday. You and
I both got up at two o'clock in the morning
to watch the game. It was fun.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
It was fun.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
I got to do the.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
Catharsis of coming into the Fox Sports radio studios and screaming.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
But it was fun. You know, how often do you
get to get up for a sporting event at two o'clock.
It's a fun thing. I was like, yeah, I just
hope i'm when I set my alarm after a couple hours,
I don't wake up and go just I'll just watch
it tomorrow on DVR.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
No, Dad, I got up avoiding because there's no way
you were avoiding this end no, no, if your phone
to any social media app or news source, it was done.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Oh and I didn't fall asleep till like well after five.
It was a three hour game of penalties and everything.
And there's so many things that have that have been
broken down. So we'll give you something a little bit new,
a little bit different after losing. The biggest thing that
surprises me after this, the first thing is the amount
of hate that is out there for the US women's
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national team. And I don't just mean the political hate,
because you go on social media and find everybody that
is happy the US women's team lost because they don't
like Meghan Rappino because she's too woke, and you know,
the team kneels for the anthem and nobody likes that.
I'm not even talking about that because that I expect, right,
because we're we're a society now where we can't just
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be on opposite sides of the aisles politically without hating
the other person. So it's either you either believe the
same things I believe, or I hate you and I'm sorry,
but we're all in this together. We should figure out
a way because whether whatever you and I believe politically,
whatever you and I have, we still are all in
this together, right, But we can't do that anymore. No,
(19:27):
if you're not on my side politically, you're my enemy.
So I get that hate for Rapina. I mean, these
aren't people that watch the game. These are people who
woke up.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Good.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
I'm glad the United States lost. I don't mean those well.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
And it's good for rallying your base of listeners, fans, supporters,
would be voters, etc. I mean, it's like it's it's
playbook one oh one. Sure, sure, bowing to your audience.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
But that I get. I understand that because that's a
society we're in right now, right, Like I get the
rooting against America because you're not part of my America.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
Like legitimately, I could have written a top five of
people I expect their reactions and I would have gone
five for five. You want to talk about a perfect.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Score, but look and it doesn't. And this is both
sides of the aisle. Politically, you're not a part of
what I want. So now you're my enemy. So I
get that. But the personal criticism, because I feel like
it was personal from so many people in the media
with their criticism of the national team. Carly Lloyd saying that, look,
they're wearing all new Nike tracksuits and they're doing commercials,
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and they've doing commercials before they've earned it, and Alexi
Lawless is echoing the same things, and Bill Simmons saying
Alex Morgan's never been a star. She's a coach's kid
from Ayso who is who the coach is always playing
their their daughter at striker And I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa?
Why suddenly is this personal? They lost and did you
(20:51):
bet on them and you lost money? I don't I
don't get where this is. I get the criticism and
I get being fair about it, but so much of
it's over the top. It's like they were waiting for
them to fail. I want to see you fail so
I can criticize you well.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
With Simmons say that might be the case because the
first time I've heard his name mentioned in anything in
a while. When it comes to to Lloyd and Lawless,
I have to believe that they're they're a little more
dialed in, particularly Carly Lloyd, right with the way the
team has grown, the way it's matured, and these women
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that we've watched for the last decade plus are now
towards their endgame. And the approach is different, clearly different
than it had been in terms of embracing that media side.
And look, it's it's been a cash cow. We've watched
it grow. Look at you know, the equal pay and
look at what the payouts were, or what three hundred
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grand a team member and all of those things. But
when you talk about endorsements at all, it means you've arrived.
And sometimes you know, you start getting into de Andre
Agassi images everything side, and and it doesn't reflect the hunger, right,
it's rocky when it went all of a sudden, it's
all the good thing and it's like you ain't hungry anymore, right,
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you lost the eye of the tiger. And I think
that's kind of where Lloyd was at in that the focus. Yeah,
once you're on the pitch, you're there, but in terms
of team building and everything else that maybe it was
a little more individual individualistic in things. I mean, look again,
I'm not trying to play mind reader, but I could
see where, you know, from her vantage point, having been
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in that locker room, having been through the grind with
some of these women that perhaps that's I mean, look,
you always hang a star on it. There might be
some personal animus that is certainly still there. But I
think rather than the rest of the commentators that went
to the personal attacks, I think those two, having been
(22:54):
in the arena, maybe I take what they're saying a
little more.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
I don't. I'm pretty sure that the Sweetish players have
commercials in Sweden. I'm pretty sure the keeper is going
to go back and have a whole bunch of commercials. Uh.
And I'm pretty sure that Adonovsky is not blowing off
practice to take the team to David Busters. You know,
I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure they're they're practice. So
you're shooting commercials. I mean, are you upset that you
didn't you're not in on this invention of the women's
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national team where it did young players like Trinity Robin
who haven't accomplished anything, or Sophia that they have commercials. Yeah,
I say a little bit of that. The person the
personal nature of it is there that it seems like, oh,
you don't deserve to win, so I want to see
you lose so I can criticize you that was over
the line. If you want to get real, hey, we
told you how this was going to go for the
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United States a month before the World Cup. We told
you that where the goal is going to come from.
Rapina was not nearly the player she was. She's only
going to play a few minutes, and boy, she looked
like she was done. Alex Morgan, is she still an
elite striker? Is she still an elite goal scorer? I
don't know that she is. And if she's not, where
are the goals going to come from? That's the number
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one concern. Where are they going to come from? And
what happened? The United States, outside of Vietnam, scored one
goal in their last three games, right, So this was
not that. This was not something that we didn't see coming.
And I even said, Hey, what really burts me the most,
or makes me nervous the most, is that we're going
to play teams that are going to play for penalties
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against us, and it's a crapshoot and we're going to lose.
And that's exactly what happened. You can see the tweet.
It's out there. We talked about it, You and I
talked about it a month ago, there's no scorers, and
you're going to get to the knockout round and we're
going to get to penalties, which you're a crapshoot. And
as you saw the millimeter whatever it was, the winning
goals scored on a listener yesterday. The thing is is
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that this United States team is just not that good.
And that's what people don't understand. The Swedish keeper had
a good game. She had eleven saves. Two of them
were pretty tough, but the rest were some easy shots,
so once she was able to deflect. We have no finishers. Finishers,
and that's the big issue. Just because Sophia Smith and
Trinity Rodman are playing with the national team, and Trinity
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Rodman has the famous dad and everything else and she's
in commercials, doesn't mean she's a great player. But she's
on the women's national team because hey, she's good enough.
They're taking the best players. This team is just not
good enough, and we expected them to be good just
because they've always been good. Since two thousand or nineteen
ninety nine when they won the World Cup and Brandy
Chastain had the goal, they've been the best team in
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the world and they've won World Cups, they've won Olympics.
They don't win every time, but eighty percent of the
time they win a World Cup, they win the Olympics.
This is just an era now in which we don't
have the same talented players. Sophia Smith and Trinity Rodman
are not Megan Rapino and Alex Morgan. They're not Abby Womback.
They're not Mia Hann, they're not Julie Faudi, they're not
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Michelle Akers. They're not Hoped That, You're not Hope Solo
and Brianna Scurry. They're just not. We think they are
because they're playing on the women's team, and we just think, well,
young superstars, okay, they advance up, become the older superstars.
Younger ones come in, they score. Go No, we're just
not that good. You see, the other nations are all
faster than we are, and that was a big problem
for us against Sweden. Like Lindsay Horan had so much
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difficulty in millle Field because she's not fast. So Fia
Smith and Trinity Robin for a little bit did okay
because they were fast, but overall you had to sub
out Trinity Rodman and Sophia Smith couldn't finish as you saw,
not ready for the moment in the in the penalty.
So this is the tough part because now there's nobody
coming to the rescue for the United States. There's no well,
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we're waiting for this young striker to finish playing for
the U twenty one and what No, there's no big
stars on the horizon. We've always been able to replace
stars with other stars, and that's why we've gone from
Ham and Foudy and Acres and Scurry to Solo and
Wanmback and Rapino and then here comes and then a
few years ago, here comes Alex Morgan and Rose Level
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and now we just don't have that. It just happens
to be one of those down cycles. And it's going
to be six years before we get to a point
potential we could be the dominant team in the world again.
We'll still be good, we'll still be really good, but
not the dominant team because there's nobody on the horizon.
Next year we're gonna play the Olympics. It's gonna go
like this.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
Well, but that's the curiosity going forward. Will they ever
be dominant again?
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Is that air stars again?
Speaker 3 (27:16):
But it's that era done in terms of being able
to just say, hey, we're the US and we roll up.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Right.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
We watched Japan, we watched some of these other daments.
Look at the Swedish team. They struggled for about a
half of their first half of the tournament and then
they've been rolling ever since. And the one thing in
the United States did well was they limited what Sweden
does best. Well, it didn't matter because you couldn't put
a ball in the back.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
And then they had three corners in the first five minutes.
No more corner, No more corners.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
That was that was literally it and coming into the
match right of their nine goals in the tournament, seven
of them came off of set pieces.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Look, the United States is still talented to play well
against the best teams. But when you can't score, when
you can't finish, that's what I'm saying, Sophia Smith and
Robin at these players, they're not superstars now. So it's
gonna be a struggle and until that next generation of
scorers and those until we get the next Rappino and Morgan.
And it's not like you get them all the time.
And while I'm backing it's gonna be a while.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
Well, but it's it's also the changing of the guard, right,
the maturation of the rest of the field is certainly there.
We look at this odd mix of old, young, and
not a lot in the middle in terms of this roster,
and maybe a disconnect in terms of camaraderie. And I
think that's something Lloyd was kind of alluding to a
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little bit as well, that you've got this chasm there
that try to bridge. You got not a lot of
time to work together because you're in the middle of
your end.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
And that's a big thing too. All the other nations
got all their their players working together. You gotta let
those You gotta let the players go, Hey, we gotta
win the world.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
We need a month, we need you know, six weeks,
whatever it is. Instead, it was all right, you played
your last NWS al game, say goodbye. They're gonna get
on a plane. They're gonna go meet in La and
then they're gonna fly.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Across the Angel City in Portland. Have a big game
coming up. But the best players need to be there
and you need to have time to do so.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
So it's that kind of thing that that also I
don't I don't think helped the process along the way.
Excuses add add injuries and missing a number of players,
but in the end you couldn't finish. And now you
look at the way the rest of this tournament has
set up, and watching where some of these other nations are,
I'm not so uh so ready to believe that the
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return to dominance is imminent
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