August 9, 2023 • 43 mins
Jason Smith and Mike Harmon celebrate Episode 1 of Hard Knocks with the Jets. Johnny Manziel admitted in his new Netflix documentary that he watched ZERO tape during his time with the Browns. And MLB Insider Jon Paul Morosi swings by for all the latest headlines from around the diamond!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
This is the best of The Jason Smith Show with
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Speaker 1 (00:28):
It's time for Hard Knocks on TV he TV Jets World,
and we're just living in it. It's Hard Knocks time.
Mind HBO. We're just gonna We're just gonna jyp this
in progress. We're just gonna just join in progress. We'll
go and we'll just hear hard Knocks for the next hour.
It's all we need. The Hard Knocks is starting on
(00:50):
HBO right now. They're not even two minutes in and
Aaron Rodgers has been featured in every single frame of video.
Mike Harmon's why this is the beginning.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
It's just a documentary of Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
This is no this is everybody getting to see what
a Super Bowl champion is built and how they're built
from summers Green playing Field all the way to Lombardi Trophy.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
My guys, a franchise is so bleeping sorry that it
started with Namath.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Well, it's got to start with Nick. God, it's gotta
start with Nigmath, It's name.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
I mean, look, there had to be odds on what
the first scene was gonna be, right, like the opening
opening of the show, Like what's the image, what's the sound?
What's is it a whistle? Is it someone putting up cones?
Is highlight from fifty years ago? That's is it a
blocking sled?
Speaker 5 (01:39):
No?
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Instead, it's Joe Namath from fifty years.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Listen, the Jets have been living off one win for
fifty years, all right, Just so yeah, it's a big
win and maybe the biggest win in the history of
the NFL, but it's still one win. We've been living
off that for fifty years.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
I want that Jet that these guys are running around in,
you know, in the opening montage, like the toys, because
I had a cool batmobile when I was a kid,
and eventually my mom gave it away and I was upset.
I was like, we didn't have enough storage room for that.
I mean, because because now that thing would be worth thousands.
Was one of those push pedal like that was what
they just had a couple of kids running around in
jets that somebody fabricated. Now we need to find one
(02:15):
of those, just like we like those old baseball cards
when they used to drive those guys out from the bullpens. So,
uh yeah, it's hard knocks night Smith. Can you can
you contain yours? Oh I'm ready, I'm ready. I'll tell
you I'll tear that low super Bowl trophy.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Yeah, well it's at least it's you know, a lot
of teams don't have any, so I'm just happy that
we have one.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
I got walking in with the uh barbed wire baseball bat.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
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It is all Jets, all the time. Here's how crazy
it was, right, here's how crazy m Jets hard knocks
everything going on. I had a dream about Zach Wilson.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Okay, Zach Wilson yet No, well not really.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
I don't understand I don't understand this because obviously you
know Rogers, Rogers, Rogers. But I had a dream that
Zach Wilson was making an autograph appearance at the mall
near my house, and the Jets called me to like
keep an eye on him and like to make sure
everything went okay, Like, hey, he's gonna be signing autographs,
(03:26):
can you make sure things go okay? And I show
up and there's Zach Wilson and he's actually shorter than me,
which is kind of but I mean, I guess that's
I'm showing my dominance in my dream, because you know,
I'm five nine, and somehow he's shorter than ives. He's
probably like five six in my dream. And we go
into this mall restaurant where he's gonna be signing the
autographs and and and he says, well, I'm gonna be
standing here at the host podium and people are gonna
(03:48):
come up to me while they're coming into the restaurant.
So I was a guy standing near the podium and
people were coming up to him ask him if they
could get a seat, and he said, no, I'm here
to sign autographs, and they thought he was actually the
host of the uh of the restaurant, and and people
were asking and I had to jump in and say, hey,
if you want an autograph from Zach Wilson, it's here.
That's that. That that's how wound, How woundly tight I
(04:09):
am right now, how tightly wound I am with this.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
That's your dream of some uh jalapeno shooters or whatever,
jalapeno poppers and and go from there, some more flair
on you. And it wasn't like, uh, hold on justin
just like it was it the Lebron coming for pizza.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
No, he actually showed up. Yeah, no, no, this is
I met Zach Wilson at the mall. I really can't
get over the fact that I was taller than him,
Like yeah, I mean it's it's it's my DaMina.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
That's a tall man.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
No, I'm five nine, and you know Zach Wilson is
taller than that. But the fact that now he's signing
out he must have been, like I said, he must
have been like five six in my dream because I
was really taller than he was. And they want and
the Jets called me, hey, can you can you help
him a little bit? Sure, I'll go to I'll go
there and do it. And I mean I'm at the restaurant,
the restaurant in the mall nearby, how and people are
coming up asking for autographs or saying, hey, I'm you know,
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table for five? Can we sit outside? And he asked
help people, which I don't think that's that far off
for Zach Wilson. Depending on how Rogers goes with the Jets,
that maybe that's what he's doing in a couple of years.
But still, I mean, that was that was the dream.
That was the dream. I don't understand it. I could
never dream about Rogers winning the Super Bowl and me
running around going Rogers Rogers. No, no, no, no, no, it's
(05:18):
all about that and and instead it's about Zach Wilson.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
I mean, come on, man, so now you're fireman ed. Yeah,
that's his dream, justin he wants to be fireman ed.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
Now, Jason, did you take Zach Wilson the lids and
teach him how to hand out house or what.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Here's what you do when you find somebody who likes you.
You can't have a hat right.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Here, one of the Jets guys.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
I don't know that it was. It was nothing happened,
but it was just I was at the mall because
I said, the Jets called me like there was no
phone call, like I didn't actually hear from Robert Solo
or Joe Douglas. It was just I was there, like
the Jets had already called me, like off dream like
like offscreen. It was off dreams. It already just following
called me. Yeah, yeah, like I know I already got
(06:03):
the phone call.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Because the ex players are like rambassadors and stuff. I
don't know what that makes you.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Did did you say rambassadors?
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (06:10):
For the Rams. I don't know. I mean it's in
my dream. I mean I'd be a pretty good Jets ambassador.
I mean, like, hey, I'll talk about a team again
that's been living off of one win for fifty years.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
I'll tell you about Wesley Walker.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Here we go, listen. Let me the next few minutes.
We're gonna go through the years from nineteen seventy four
to eighty four, the beginning of the Sack Exchange, the
end of the seventies. Did you know Lou Holtz used
to coach the New York Jets Yeah, let's start there
in nineteen seventy four.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Wow, yeah, you got Lou holtzon. So that's good.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
But here comes Hard Knocks. I'm watching Aaron Rodgers is
high five and saw Us Gardner. I'm look at all
this super Bowl trophy is super imposed on the screen
the entire time. They just have it in the corner.
This is awesome. This is so awesome. I can't even
tell you.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
So justin you ready to do an hour of radio
while he goes and does whatever it's gonna do to him.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
How the hell did you not bring?
Speaker 4 (07:01):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (07:01):
You came empty handed?
Speaker 4 (07:02):
It's the Uh it's the first episode of Hard Knocks
with the Jets. Yeah, where in the hell are the sandwiches?
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (07:08):
I do know.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Tonight was saying, I thought this is like my nights.
You guys would buy me sandwiches tonight, like this is mine.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
Now we're having to watch and endure this and have
our eyes bleeding.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
At least you can do is bring sandwiches. You want
to know how a Super Bowl team is built? From
the very beginning. This has given you an eagle eye
glance into turn on the sixty nine footage. How many?
How many teams? Are going to go, well, so this
is how you do it, and they're going to fight
to be on Hard Knocks next year and say, we
got to do it just like the Jets did it.
That's how cool. That's got one person. We gotta do
it just like the Jets, just like the Jets do it.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Unbelievable. Normally, I don't see this much green unless I'm
watching The Bishop Magic Don Juan. As part of Old School.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
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mean every pass is on the money. Aaron rd He's
in every single frame of the of Hard Knocks so far.
There's nothing that hasn't included Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
Which is why when he goes down, you guys are screwed.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Why are you gonna put that out there? Why are
you gonna put that out there? Well, why he's one
hundred years old. Why do you have to make me
sit here and think? At some point this year we're
gonna have to go through Zach Wilson We're gonna have
to have Zach Wilson. It's happening. Not no, if that happens, Frostburg,
what are.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
You gonna do keep my car?
Speaker 3 (08:27):
No?
Speaker 1 (08:27):
No, no, this is like I'm gonna take all the
tires off your car and that's it.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Wow, And I'm gonna have a good thing. I know
how to call and hold the time.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
I'm gonna tell tirec dot Com do not go to
Frostburg's house. No, that's a one place you set a
brand and you not go there for a while.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
You wait.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
No, no, no, no, no, no no. I'm telling them
they can't go there.
Speaker 6 (08:43):
Kay.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
They go to anybody's house, Nope, not going to yours.
They're not going to you.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
You can't go ten thousand installers, I mean, but they'll
come show it to you.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
No, not go not if I call, Hey, I talked
to those guys. I talked to those guys a couple
of times. I if that could tell him, Hey, you
don't go to Frostburg's house. What you said about the Jets.
Oh yeah, you're right, Jason, Right, we're gonna him go
with those.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
You're in Indianapolis, buddy, They don't they got they got
their own team. They're worried about it.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Your yess uh? Twitter and out about of Fresco. Mike
has swollen dome. The Jason Smith Show with Mike Carmon
Live from the tirec dot Com studios now while we
are watching the The Elegance of Hard Knocks, Yes, the
cult story today. Just if this doesn't tell you that
Jonathan Taylor is getting traded, nothing will. He leaves the
(09:29):
team to rehab and you can try to paint this
rosie saying, oh, the plan was always to have him leave,
which is what the Colts tried to put out there today.
But it doesn't matter. He is not coming back, and
he will be traded before the season begins. It's going
to happen. There's there's a way to handle a negotiation
(09:49):
and there's a way not to handle it. And yes,
we've heard a lot that that that Taylor's new agent
was really pushing for a new contract, making a lot
of noise about it. Maybe that's gotten into Jonathan Taylor's head.
Speaker 5 (09:59):
You know.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
The couple of people have said that, you know, he's
a little bit different than he was the beginning of
the year. Well, yeah, because the running backs had their
big conference call, and they said, hey, j T, you're
the next guy getting paid. Man, you got to make
sure that you standing up for all of us. So
now things are different, and jim Mercey, who is maybe
it wants to be in the running for worst owner ever.
I want to make sure all the bad owners. I
(10:21):
want to be at the top of that list now,
making sure that he's there. Because his comment when when
this first happened a week and a half ago, that
if me and Jonathan die tomorrow the NFL moves on,
how do you come back to the cult if you're
Jonathan Taylor after that? You can't.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
I think it was more if if I die and
Taylor's out of the league, he didn't kill Taylor off.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
It, how do you come back after that? You can't.
You've been told, hey, we're not giving you money, and
we and not only that, we have belittled you. I
belittled you in a statement and you're still looking for money.
And now I have basically said we're not giving it
to you. How do you come back? You don't. So
he's gonna sit until they trade him, and it's gonna
(11:05):
get really deep into the preseason, and the Colts are
gonna realize he's never gonna play for us again, and
they'll trade him. That's the only outcome. Now. Taylor's not
coming back to the team. He's not gonna show. They're
not going to give him a band aid contract with
some money. No, Jim Ursay decided, I'm gonna make this
combative and make it adversarial at a time when he's
got to read the room and get that. Hey, you know,
(11:27):
it's kind of a weird time now for running back,
so a little upset about things. They're not getting paid. Well,
what's the best thing to do here? Hey, you know,
say I understand their situation. Talk to Jonathan's agent. What's
the right thing to do? Because tempers are high. No, no, no,
I'm gonna as if I'm dying. He's gone. No one cares. Well, really,
that makes me want to come back and play for
the Colts. He is going to sit until he gets
traded and he's not going to be a cult and
(11:48):
they're gonna wait, and they're gonna wait. And I don't
know if it's just as simple as hey, Josh Jacobs,
will you show up and play for us for a year? Great,
we'll take him Raiders. You take Jonathan Taylor, but he's
going to get dealt because I just there's just no
way back for him. There's lots of ways back I
can see for players because a lot of its negotiation.
But Ursay has basically said, sorry, yeah, listen, we're talking
(12:09):
about death. Then out of the league in the NFL
doesn't care about you or me or anybody else. Yeah,
he's not coming back.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Well, I unfortunately, you know, while it's it's ham handed
and silly in terms of optic public relations, et cetera,
or say, ain't wrong here. God's done a lot of
crazy things. He's had an ownership tenure that is mired
with a lot of well, let's should we say highlights
and bullet points for the Wikipedia page, but for this one.
(12:40):
You got a guy on the final year of his
deal who played in eleven games last year, is still
dealing with the after effects of a surgery, and he's
gonna try to hold out and say we need more money.
That's a hard one, I mean, because like, what's if
you franchise him, it's it's ten to one. That's a
six million dollar raise. That's pretty good money, right, But
(13:01):
that's next year, right, now you're on the books for
four million dollars. Why should they renegotiate now when you're
coming off an injury and you're unavailable as of this moment,
your ankle is suddenly gonna feel better when you sign
a check to that level. Because this has been reported
all off season that he was having issues. And I
understand it's a difficult marketplace for the running backs, and
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Taylor has been instrumental to what this team is. And yes,
if we look at it objectively, with Anthony Richardson coming
in as your number one always helps to have a good,
strong running game. Nobody disputes any of those things. However,
if her say you know, and management looks at it
and says, well, we're not re upping now, we got
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to see what you do this year, how your ankle responds.
Who's to say that Jonathan Taylor hasn't already played his
best football. He's supposed to get him a thirty six
million dollar extension now, or whatever that money would be.
I'm sorry, Like, I get it's a crass statement, but
he's not wrong.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
No, no, he's not. But how do you say that
about your best player? But your best player also has
to realize where you're at.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
It's contentious, and you're basically as a as a position
group crying about a CBA that you just ratified again
two years ago. You know.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
But but there's a way to do it. There's a
way to say, hey, man, I'm sorry, this is the case.
We're gonna try to work something out next year. Unfortunately
this is it. And then there's going in front of
the media and saying, yeah, if I died and you
were gone, nobody would care. Now, you don't do that
to one of year. This is a guy you want
to perform on your team, and you have told him
nobody cares about you. No, how do you go back
(14:35):
and play there? Right? I mean, there's a there's a
different way to handle it without paying the guy. There's
a way to say, listen, let's do this. What if
we did this, what if we did this, We need
you to come back. But instead he decided to say, no,
I'm standing up for everybody else that that doesn't think
we should pay running backs, and I'm going to make
it combative with my star. There's not another owner that
would make it combative with his best Because Daniel Snyder's
(14:56):
out of the league, now. So there's not another owner
who would make it combat with his team's best player
to the point where I'm gonna insult you so you
don't come back.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Look, well, I'm not gonna say Zach Barton is the
Cowboys best player, but he would be up in the
top five right And he basically said, hey, Jerry Jones
basically told him to beat it. I need money for
this guy, that guy, and the other guy. So we've
seen it done twice in this offseason. Get ready, Hey,
make your phone calls. Make if you want Jonathan Taylor,
make your phone calls. You get him, You can get him.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
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Speaker 1 (15:33):
Well, we just watched, even though without the sound, I
am ready to call it, Mike Harmon, the greatest episode
in the history of Hard Knocks.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
It was.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Didn't see any sound. I don't know anything that was
said because we're doing the show. But Aaron Rodgers was
in every single frame of the video, dropping dives, throwing
the ball into baskets. He's talking on the sideline when
he's in a T shirt, and Robert Sala's in a
T shirt. It looks like he's the head coach and
Sala's the assistant coach coming up asking him questions. I mean, really,
Rodgers as the head coach of the offense. But I
(16:01):
mean it was it just looked like everything you would want,
and it looked like Hard Knocks that said to themselves, Okay,
now we could come in here and we could talk
about Rogers little bit. Yes, yes, then we have the
position battle at backup running back, we have a position
battle and defensive Listen, hey, guys, nobody cares about that.
Let's just make it all about Aaron Rodgers. Well, and
a little bit of Zach Wilson. Okay, fine, that's right,
(16:22):
but make sure we do Zach Wilson. We talk about
Aaron Rodgers. Okay. And that's kind of what it looked
like everything on Hard Knocks and was every time I
looked up, Aaron Rodgers is smiling, he's laughing, he's throwing
a long path. It's fantastic.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Well, I mean, you gotta show how much he loves
being there. He loves his teammates, he loves the city,
he loves it all. The final exchange is pretty funny.
As the closing credits rule about surfing and growing up
in Chico. So that was kind of funny. But it's
the idea for hard knocks. It's the sell the hell
(16:55):
out of your stars the other stuff for great little
side side stories. Right a little bit, Zach Wilson, here's
the walking up to the podium. Remember the pre draft
photo when he was in the mirror and that selfie
looked like he was going to prom and all the
jokes that transpired there. They made sure to really point
out how Rogers called the play for the fifty seven
(17:17):
yard completion. Of course, I love the reaction on the sideline.
That's an a one blank in throw right there. QB one, Frostburg,
you saw it. I saw it. We all heard it. Well.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
QB two can't throw fifty seven yards, So yeah, Zacha.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Listen, listen. After Rogers wins a couple of Super Bowls
in the next four years and retires, he'll be the
Jets head coach and he'll be coaching Zach Wilson. That'll
be fine. I'm okay with that. We have we had
a long deal with Aaron Rodgers being the head coach. Man,
every's gonna be drinking tea on Tuesday for their off day.
It's gonna be great.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
You know, this was a it was a fun episode.
And obviously when you try to highlight your stars and
you can get all this great background and he's smiling
the whole time, and he's meeting all these guys that
are chuckling about his age, and then he's putting on
a show throwing balls into baskets. I'd love to see
the unedited and how many air and throws there are,
but that's okay. And he was trying to impress his
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actor buddy the Voice of God, and he kept bringing
that up. He's like, you know, you see him over there,
and yeah, he likes me. All of that kind of
fun stuff. No, it's like it means football's back. As
soon as the opening credits roll. As soon as he
got off that helicopter and we saw a shreiver, it's like, yeah,
he's not fighting Wolverine right now. He's gonna narrate the
(18:35):
blank out of this episode. Yeah, let's go.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
So while that's going on with Hard Knocks, we're gonna
play some Johnny Manziel audio for you right now. That
is just amazing. Now his documentary is coming out via
Netflix and has come out already, and you heard a
little bit last week. He talked about how he attempted
suicide during one of his benders and learning about the
life of Manzel, who as great as he was in college,
(19:01):
and and and the roller coaster ride he had in
the NFL. I mean, look, Johnny football was a really
really popular dude and everybody wanted to see him succeed.
He was fun, he was different, and he was his
own worst enemy. And this is taking you inside and
in depth everything with Manzel throughout his NFL career. Now,
what has just dropped is the latest episode of Untold,
(19:23):
which is the name of the Johnny Manziel documentary on Netflix.
We're gonna play some audio for you right now, and
this is from the most recent episode that just came
out a little while ago today. Apparently, when Manzell was
drafted by the Browns, obviously the Browns wanted him to
watch game film because you know, you kind of have
to as a show, and you can't just watch it
(19:43):
when you're at the at the field. You got to
watch it at home, right, This is how you get better.
He was given a team iPad where coaches could secretly
track the amount of time he spent watching film. So
here's a here's an iPad, great watch film, and the
coaches can tell how much time he spends on the
iPad watching game film. Here's a conversation with Johnny Manzel's
(20:08):
agent and the Browns general manager as to how much
tape Johnny Manziel actually watched.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Their gms, calling me going, he didn't watch tape.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
I'm like, well, he's got to watch some tape.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
It's like eb, his iPad hours is zero point zero zero.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Zero zero zero. They looked and they checked zero point
zero zero Blue Tarski zero point zero zero. Johnny Manzel
watched zero video zero film. What would you say you
do here? Johnny? Zero point zero zero hours of film
(20:48):
on his iPad when he's supposed to be watching at
least some getting ready for the next wonder.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
That kind of explains a lot, now, didn't it explain?
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Explain? And it's time you see a story. If you
show me, show me a guy that hasn't watched tape,
and I'll show you the story of a failed quarterback
right like what they took the you know, I mean, look,
the last time we heard about this to this level.
Was the JaMarcus Russell, right, the you know, the coaches
put one hundred dollars bill in the DVDs. They sent
him home with and and and he said, yeah, I
(21:19):
watch them all them all good. And they put one
hundred dollar bill in there. He didn't say anything about it.
They use that story for draft day, right for all
that I mean, but you see it. You can tell
being a quarterback and working in the NFL, it's hard, man.
There's a reason why the best of the best get
forty and forty five and fifty million dollars because they
have so much more responsibility than any other position, right,
(21:41):
I mean, it's the most important position on the field.
It's why quarterbacks win MVPs all the time. It's why
they get paid the most money. But it also comes
with a little bit more responsibility. Not that running backs
and wide receivers and defensive tackles can just say, Hey,
did I'm gone?
Speaker 6 (21:55):
Man?
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Hey, so are we done? I'm done. I'm gone going
to the beach. I'm done. I'm gone. Hey, I'm go
to see Barbie. Then I'm going to see Oppenheimer. Then
i'na come back and play video games till four in
the morning, Yeah, then a wake up for practice.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
No.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
But there's just a little bit more that goes along
with being a quarterback. And either you're a quarterback, you
have that gene in you or you don't. And to
see this is this surprising about Johnny Manziel, No, it's not.
Because Manziel is a guy who was who played even
in college with a very improvisational style that mentally you
could see that he was way past what he saw
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in coverages. He had an instinct for the game that
was unmatch especially in college football. Some of the plays
he makes, being able to know exactly where to be
where he could buy time. But in the NFL, all
the dbs are fast, the defensive line is faster, the
linebackers are all big, they can all cover. You gotta
bring something else to the party. And when you succeed
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on your own gifts, for as long as Johnny Manziel did,
you don't suddenly just get a work ethic. You don't decides, oh,
now I get to the NFL, Now I got I
gotta work.
Speaker 6 (22:58):
Man.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
I didn't watch it. I didn't watch a SEC film
with Texas A and m Man. I'd even go to practice.
They just had a guy dressed into my number two jersey.
I'dn't even go. Man, four years I didn't go, but
I showed up on Saturday, and boy I played great.
You don't suddenly just get that work ethic when you
have that kind of success early on in your career
and you are Johnny f and football and that's how
you are pushed. Do you really get to the NFL
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and think, yeah, I really need to do more. No,
you think I got this. I know what I'm doing. Yeah, yeah,
all this, blah blah blah. Watch watch film, watch all this.
I'm Johnny Manzielman. I'm a Heisman Trophy winner. I got
don't worry about I can continue to do my thing
and not have to worry about doing what everybody else does.
And tada here he is out of the league.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Yeah, I mean you go down the line. I mean
we've seen it a couple of times. The best stuff
that JaMarcus Russell was right blank tapes and Bruce Gradkowski
was on the team with him, saying he bribed him
by bringing satchels of cheeseburgers for them to sit and
commiserate over eeple but you know, I mean, think about
the contract we watched signed by Kyler Murray and all
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the back and forth before that finally went down, was
all right, he doesn't study enough, he's playing too many
video games. Same thing. Heisman winner, a guy who's kind
of a big deal, top ten pick both football and baseball,
all of these things, and the knock on him was
he wasn't working hard enough in the film room. And
we'll see what happens. Seems to have a nice rapport
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going with the new coaching staff and front office and
everything else, but is he destined and doomed to repeat
that history? You know, do you do you learn after
all the success and after the mega contract coming back
off injury. We'll see what happens as the year flows on,
if he even plays another down. But for Manzell, I mean,
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it just explained so many things, right, heartbreaking. The other
part of it, you know, talking about where he was
mentally and all of that, I mean, that is just
you know, you cringe and you send up the prayers
that you know you find your piece and keep going
and find the good. But you know, this part of
it really explains an awful lot of what we didn't
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see on Sundays.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
You know. And it's not just about the lack of
a hard work the stuff I need to do. I
have it all. I have it all taken care of
very rarely. And there's some people that I see in
the world that do things creatively for a living, can
just show up and do their thing right and just
kind of do what they do for a living, not
put a lot of work in and not really take
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it seriously and be successful. So sometimes it's really difficult,
and it sucks to see people do that because that
shows you that, you know, hey, listen, you don't always
need hard work. But the one thing that I have
seen all across you know, the board in this profession,
but anytime you do something that is subjective that can
be criticized that you can actually see quantitative results on,
is that the most successful people are the ones that
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take what they do for a living seriously. Doesn't mean
you have to be completely serious about it and not
have fun, but you have to take what you do
serious and understand about the responsibility that goes along with
what you're doing. And this could be I got to
take my responsibility as a bank manager very seriously. I
can take my responsibility, uh you know, running a a
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a website seriously, my responsibility as a quarterback seriously, anything
where I can see the results and I can be
judged as to how I'm working. You need to take
what you do for a living serious because if you don't, eventually,
most likely you're gonna wind up out of that because
there's other people that will outwork you, that will will
take what they're doing more seriously than you and want
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to be able to succeed. And that's the other part
of Johnny Manziel. Did he ever take the NFL seriously?
Did you ever take his career here? Or is he
doing or was he on the field warming up before games?
Texting on his phone? You know what was he was?
He was he not watching film? All of these things?
You know what Johnny Manziel was doing. And and you
know that he wasn't taking what he did for a
living seriously because if he did, he would have worked
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a little harder. But that that's the other part is
I can see every single time when I I see
someone taking what they do for I go that person's
going to be successful whenever they not to know how successful,
but they're gonna be successful. They're gonna get what they
want because they know this is what I want and
I got to work hard at it. And I have
to understand that I have a responsibility if I'm going
to succeed because other people want what I have. Right.
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If you're a manager at a bank, other people want
to be the manager. If you're running a website, other
people want to run that website. If you're a quarterback,
other people want to be the quarterback. And that's the
other part of Johnny Manzel and why he ultimately failed.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
Yeah, And sometimes you can say or do stuff and
no matter how bad it is, you just shrug and go, well,
what are they going to do to me in the NFL?
That doesn't happen with quarterbacks? That you will find your
way on the outside looking infast.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
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Speaker 5 (28:12):
Jason, I will give you a big mac. If you
can name this artist, you'll give me a big mac.
I will buy you a big Mac.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
This is Luscius Jackson. It's not this is blink one.
How'd you know.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
This is?
Speaker 1 (28:32):
I don't know who is it.
Speaker 5 (28:33):
This is Makoto montshut Matsushika. Oh that was my next guest,
my next guest.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
I don't think you can say that on air. No,
you just did. You can see what happens Tony. Uh.
Big stuff going on in Major League Baseball. We will
get to the Kevin Brown situation because it looks like
everybody's favorite broadcaster is getting back on the air. Joining
us now on the hotline. Nobody better than our favorite
MLB broadcaster, MLB network insider, an interim head coach at
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the University of Michigan football program. He's wearing khakis, he's tweeting,
he's covering it all. It is John Paul Morosi JP.
What's happening man, Good.
Speaker 6 (29:10):
Evening, my friends, I am actually coming to you live
from Queens, New York.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
How about that look at you. You got to see
the Cubs beat the Mets tonight.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Right after watching the Dodgers take down the Padres. Big
couple of.
Speaker 6 (29:22):
Days, right, and we have our game tomorrow night here
in New York, a showdown here Cubs and Mets. I
have to make sure I get that on there, that
will be on that will be Networks tomorrow night. And yes,
I did not expect that by the time I arrived
here in August that the one team we'd be talking
about a lot in terms of contending for a playoff
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spot would be the Cubs and the Mets would have
traded two Hall of Fame bound pitchers in the same
span of three days. But these are the times of
which we live, my friend.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Well, and also, and you didn't expect this that you're
going to got to play right field for the Mets tonight.
You did pretty well out there. I thought the fact
that you had a glove in one hand and your
microphone in the other and you still made a couple
of plays was pretty good.
Speaker 6 (30:05):
Amen. No, it's I will say this that when you
are going into the clubhouse of a team that has
just made a lot of trades. You have to sort
of do that thing where you're there on the first
day of school. You take attendance again, a lot of
meet and greet where your name tag, make sure that
you know all the new people there. I'm definitely having
that experience here in Queens this week.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
All right, well we'll get to what's going on with
Kevin Brown this craziness because as a broadcaster, look, I
know you had a big opinion on this, but I
want to ask you something we brought up on the
show last night. This would be completely against Major League
Baseball rules and it would never fly. But I don't
know that you could say no to this. At this
point after the trade deadline, the Angels had not won
a game. They are now eight games out of the
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wild Card. If the Angel said, hey, oh we change
our mind, we want to trade, show, heyo Tani?
Speaker 3 (30:55):
Who says no?
Speaker 1 (30:56):
I mean, really, who says no? Rob Mamfords A We'll
have our own show, heyo Tani. Trade deadline.
Speaker 6 (31:01):
The rules are the rules. I get it, but I
understand the spirit of what you're saying. And let's be honest.
We are now August the eighth. There are those in
the industry who believe that we should push back to
trade deadline until right about now basically what we're now
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one week. Just think think how different everything is a
week later, and it was a week ago on this
night that the angels kept them and now look at
where things have gone. And there is exactly this case.
And I'm sure it's going to be mentioned at the
General Managers meetings this offseason in November when all the
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gms get together that if there's an argument to move
it back by a week now that we're in a
world where we're not married to July thirty first at
four pm Eastern time anymore, I think you'll have a
lot of gms saying, you know what, I'll take the
extra week or the extra because this sport, because of
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all the competitiveness and the number of teams that are
still in it or close to in it at the deadline,
it's really hard. It's hard to make a trade. And
so I think anything anytime you can give teams another
week's worth of clarity, it helps them out in a
huge way. And that would be the answer that we'll
never know is because they made that choice to pull
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them off the market with about a week or so
to go before the deadline. If they were to have
all the games would have gone exactly as they did
and the deadline was tonight. My goodness, what kind of
choice they would have been faced with. From an angel standpoint, we'd.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
Be talking about that more than hard knocks. I can
tell you that.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
JP.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
Let me go back to that Mets Cub series for second.
Who found and how do they hit the reset button
on Cody Bellinger?
Speaker 6 (32:55):
Well, and to me it is one of the great
stories in baseball. I think he needed the scenery. I
think David Ross and the Cubs coaching staff have been
tremendous for him. I also think that he took Cody
did a real hard look at at what he wanted
to still get out of his career. Obviously, things came
very quickly for him. He was immediately NL Rookie of
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the Year type player wins, an MVP, wins the World
Series Championship. He was around a lot of winning very quickly,
and then all of a sudden, the game got pretty hard.
I think that the shoulder injury was part of it,
but I think he also realized that he still had
a lot of road to go in his career, strengthened
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the area around that shoulder, and then found a swing
that works for him with a little bit of an adjustment.
I mean, it's remarkable. I was speaking today with our
research department at MLB Network about is getting set for
tomorrow's game and his numbers against lefties. He's hitting better
than three hundred against lefties. He's able, he's been able
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to do a lot of damage at two strikes. It's
unbelievable what he's doing right now. And I've just been
so impressed by the approach that Bellinger has taken and
the overall improvement in his game.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
JP Let's talk about Bellinger's old team for a second here,
because if you're a Major League Baseball team, you are
throwing your hands up and going, Okay, the Dodgers going.
They spend a lot of money, they have a great
minor league system, and they win the nl wes for
ten years, they win the World Series. I get it. Okay, Well,
this year they didn't spend money in the offseason. They
relied on the younger guys. Had a horrible injury to
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Gavin Lux early on in the preseason, didn't really have
a lot of other guys step up. They made some
minor moves the deadline, Yeah, and there's still twenty games
over five hundred. I mean, this has to be so
disheartening for the rest of baseball. And this is the
most This is to me, is the most impressive thing
that Dodgers have done in the last decade because they
did not get better. Yes, they made solid moves the
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deadline and getting i'm at Rosario for Cindergard is a
phenomenal move, But you know, Missario is a solid player,
Joe Kelly is a is a serviceable reliever, and here
they are still games over five hundred.
Speaker 6 (35:02):
When your superstars are unselfish and productive and play every day,
it is amazing what it does for your overall roster.
And that's exactly what they've got with Mookie Betts and
Freddie Freeman. And it's why, with all due respect to
the rest of the industry, why wouldn't showey Otani want
to play for the Dodgers this offseason? I think that too.
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You look at this club. They've done a really good
job of sequencing and planning out when they make their
big investments in players, and you don't have to do
it every year. You don't have to sign a superstar
every year to have the right balance on a team
or to generally be in the market for all the superstars.
I don't think it was any accidents that when Nolan
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Arnado was mentioned as being available, the Dodgers were mentioned
prominently in that conversation. I think that Andrew Friedman has
a list of players that he wants to acquire if
the circumstances are right. I would expect that Arenado's on
that list. I would expect the show is obviously prominently
on that list. But the thing is when your team
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is already good, and when you want to call up
a James Outman and he comes up and plays really well,
and when Jason Hayward has a bounce back here for you,
and you trust your coaching staff that much that you
can bring in guys who are good Major leaguers but
not superstars, that your coaching staff is going to get
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the most out of them. It is the perfect It's
the perfect organization. They're not perfect in every way, but
the way that the whole thing harmonizes is really something
cool to see. And we were in San Diego yesterday,
as you mentioned, and talking to Dave Roberts about exactly that,
when you've got unselfished superstars, it really makes the manager's
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job easier. It sets the clear standard for the room.
And you look around the teams that have failed this year,
I think a lot of them have not had the
strength of club outse, chemistry and character that the Dodgers
have right now.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
Now, Ronald Acunya Junior got hit in the elbow today
x rays negative. But talking about that unselfishness, you mentioned
Freddie Freeman's name. The last couple of weeks, JP just
ridiculous numbers, hitting at a four to sixty clip, the
extra base hits. Has he caught Acunya in the MVP
polling amongst your peers there at MLB Network.
Speaker 6 (37:25):
You know, it's a great question. I think right now
that there is a There is not just a one
versus one, a Kunya versus Freeman. I think we've got
like a four player matrix here. I think Mooki is
part of the conversation. I think Matt Olsen's part of
the conversation. And listen, Acunya. If you are someone that
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heavily indexes for base running, Acuna is probably going to
be your guy unless he misses his significant time with
an injury, because he's already banked all those stolen bases.
He's having one of those historic home runs stolen base
type seasons. So for all those reasons, he's a great choice.
But how could you not say that. Freddie Freeman's also
an amazing choice. I mean, he's been amazing so far
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this season. In Matt Olson, he might hit darn near
sixty home runs. So it's And by the way, what
Mookie Betts does by playing second base is it opens
up the entire outfield for the for Dave Roberts. So
for example, yesterday against the righty starter, you move Mooki
into second base and then you have them all left
handed outfield. That allows you to get as many lefty
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bats the lineup as possible. When you go Peralta Autman Hayward,
there's value in that too. So it's I think there
are four players that have a reasonable case. And the
thing I love about the MVP is don't make you
don't make your decision too early. I know Kuna was
the first half MVP and I got it, but let's
keep an open mind because this award can be won
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over the final six weeks of the season.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
Can they just do a tag team match at WWE
Payback and Pittsburgh le Zoo out of September.
Speaker 6 (38:59):
I mean, I think we're gonna see. Listen, if it's
not Brave Dodgers in the NLCS, then we've had a
significant upset somewhere.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
All right, jap, Let's bring into this conversation that has
just spread crazy over the last twenty four hours a
case of Orioles broadcaster Kevin Brown, who's going to get
to come back on Friday after he was suspended by
the team because they didn't like the fact that he
pointed out that the Orioles didn't play well at the
Trap against the Rays for the past few years. We
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talked about this a lot last night. The video and
audio have been everywhere. Obviously, you've had some time to
look at this and see what other people in the
media are saying. What's your takeaway from this story?
Speaker 6 (39:42):
Well, a couple of things. I mean, we could go
on all hour about this, but I'll make a couple
of quick points. Number One, when I watched the video
and I saw the open of the show again, it
was the open to the broadcast, and for all of
us that have been involved in television, what happens and
(40:02):
what is said on the open of the broadcast is
not strictly the purview of the announcer. Okay, this is
something that's discussed at length with the production team, graphics,
There's a lot of people involved. So I think it
was very unfortunate that Kevin was singled out. Obviously he's
the front man and that's part of the business, but
that part was not fair. The second part is all
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he said was factual, and so when we start policing
what is said when it's factual, we have a lot
of problems with that. Is that is not healthy, certainly
in topics that are much weightier than the season series
(40:46):
between the Oriols and Race separate conversation about life in
the world in twenty twenty three about what is factual
what's not. But to me, the manner in which the
Orioles have over come their struggles against that team frames
the story. That is essential in terms of how you
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set the scene for a broadcast, and when the broadcast
comes on the ear and says, wow, here's the Orioles.
They're playing exceptionally well, that's your best record in the division,
by the way, and look at how much better they're
playing against their division rather than they have in a
lot of years. That to me seems first of all
innocuous in any reasonable assessment of it, and second of
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all important context because it tells the viewer. While this
is one further way in which the Oriols have gotten
a lot better. So to me, sports are about wins
and losses. Sports are about context and the journey. And
if we can't talk about what happened before and how
teams have adapted and improved, then I'm not quite sure
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what we can talk about, because that's how we measure
things in sports, wins and losses. And a final statement
on the whole situation. If there has been no discipline
or reaction for Kevin Brown, no one would be talking
about the open on the massive broadcast to that game
of Tropicana Field. No one outside of Baltimore would have
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seen it or commented on it. The whole situation has
become much more, much more radioactive and more prominent simply
because of the reaction of the ball club. That's that's
what I see. It was. It was It was a
credible part of a broadcast, and it was important context,
but it was not, With all the respect to my
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friends who produced it, it was not spectacular and memorable
television in any real way except for the aftermath of it.
And I think that's where we have to remember perspective
that most things in life do tend to go off
into the ether when we don't grab them and make
them into these massive stories. And I think that was
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a very very good lesson here for everybody involved.
Speaker 1 (42:58):
You can fall on Twitter at John Morosi, that is
at John Morosi MLB Network insider in Queens. Has the
Mets look to make their run? Okay, not really? Uh,
JP is always buddy, appreciate your time, Thanks so much,
great stuff, have a great week. We'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 6 (43:15):
Oh that's my friends will enjoy the conversation and what
We'll look forward to talking next week as well, when
I'll have some more suggestions for the Mets future.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
I'm very good, duty good. Thanks a bunch. JP.
Speaker 3 (43:24):
Solving problems, shit
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It's time for Hard Knocks on TV he TV Jets World,
and we're just living in it. It's Hard Knocks time.
Mind HBO. We're just gonna We're just gonna jyp this
in progress. We're just gonna just join in progress. We'll
go and we'll just hear hard Knocks for the next hour.
It's all we need. The Hard Knocks is starting on
(00:50):
HBO right now. They're not even two minutes in and
Aaron Rodgers has been featured in every single frame of video.
Mike Harmon's why this is the beginning.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
It's just a documentary of Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
This is no this is everybody getting to see what
a Super Bowl champion is built and how they're built
from summers Green playing Field all the way to Lombardi Trophy.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
My guys, a franchise is so bleeping sorry that it
started with Namath.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Well, it's got to start with Nick. God, it's gotta
start with Nigmath, It's name.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
I mean, look, there had to be odds on what
the first scene was gonna be, right, like the opening
opening of the show, Like what's the image, what's the sound?
What's is it a whistle? Is it someone putting up cones?
Is highlight from fifty years ago? That's is it a
blocking sled?
Speaker 5 (01:39):
No?
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Instead, it's Joe Namath from fifty years.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Listen, the Jets have been living off one win for
fifty years, all right, Just so yeah, it's a big
win and maybe the biggest win in the history of
the NFL, but it's still one win. We've been living
off that for fifty years.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
I want that Jet that these guys are running around in,
you know, in the opening montage, like the toys, because
I had a cool batmobile when I was a kid,
and eventually my mom gave it away and I was upset.
I was like, we didn't have enough storage room for that.
I mean, because because now that thing would be worth thousands.
Was one of those push pedal like that was what
they just had a couple of kids running around in
jets that somebody fabricated. Now we need to find one
(02:15):
of those, just like we like those old baseball cards
when they used to drive those guys out from the bullpens. So,
uh yeah, it's hard knocks night Smith. Can you can
you contain yours? Oh I'm ready, I'm ready. I'll tell
you I'll tear that low super Bowl trophy.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Yeah, well it's at least it's you know, a lot
of teams don't have any, so I'm just happy that
we have one.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
I got walking in with the uh barbed wire baseball bat.
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It is all Jets, all the time. Here's how crazy
it was, right, here's how crazy m Jets hard knocks
everything going on. I had a dream about Zach Wilson.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Okay, Zach Wilson yet No, well not really.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
I don't understand I don't understand this because obviously you
know Rogers, Rogers, Rogers. But I had a dream that
Zach Wilson was making an autograph appearance at the mall
near my house, and the Jets called me to like
keep an eye on him and like to make sure
everything went okay, Like, hey, he's gonna be signing autographs,
(03:26):
can you make sure things go okay? And I show
up and there's Zach Wilson and he's actually shorter than me,
which is kind of but I mean, I guess that's
I'm showing my dominance in my dream, because you know,
I'm five nine, and somehow he's shorter than ives. He's
probably like five six in my dream. And we go
into this mall restaurant where he's gonna be signing the
autographs and and and he says, well, I'm gonna be
standing here at the host podium and people are gonna
(03:48):
come up to me while they're coming into the restaurant.
So I was a guy standing near the podium and
people were coming up to him ask him if they
could get a seat, and he said, no, I'm here
to sign autographs, and they thought he was actually the
host of the uh of the restaurant, and and people
were asking and I had to jump in and say, hey,
if you want an autograph from Zach Wilson, it's here.
That's that. That that's how wound, How woundly tight I
(04:09):
am right now, how tightly wound I am with this.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
That's your dream of some uh jalapeno shooters or whatever,
jalapeno poppers and and go from there, some more flair
on you. And it wasn't like, uh, hold on justin
just like it was it the Lebron coming for pizza.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
No, he actually showed up. Yeah, no, no, this is
I met Zach Wilson at the mall. I really can't
get over the fact that I was taller than him,
Like yeah, I mean it's it's it's my DaMina.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
That's a tall man.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
No, I'm five nine, and you know Zach Wilson is
taller than that. But the fact that now he's signing
out he must have been, like I said, he must
have been like five six in my dream because I
was really taller than he was. And they want and
the Jets called me, hey, can you can you help
him a little bit? Sure, I'll go to I'll go
there and do it. And I mean I'm at the restaurant,
the restaurant in the mall nearby, how and people are
coming up asking for autographs or saying, hey, I'm you know,
(04:57):
table for five? Can we sit outside? And he asked
help people, which I don't think that's that far off
for Zach Wilson. Depending on how Rogers goes with the Jets,
that maybe that's what he's doing in a couple of years.
But still, I mean, that was that was the dream.
That was the dream. I don't understand it. I could
never dream about Rogers winning the Super Bowl and me
running around going Rogers Rogers. No, no, no, no, no, it's
(05:18):
all about that and and instead it's about Zach Wilson.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
I mean, come on, man, so now you're fireman ed. Yeah,
that's his dream, justin he wants to be fireman ed.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
Now, Jason, did you take Zach Wilson the lids and
teach him how to hand out house or what.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Here's what you do when you find somebody who likes you.
You can't have a hat right.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Here, one of the Jets guys.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
I don't know that it was. It was nothing happened,
but it was just I was at the mall because
I said, the Jets called me like there was no
phone call, like I didn't actually hear from Robert Solo
or Joe Douglas. It was just I was there, like
the Jets had already called me, like off dream like
like offscreen. It was off dreams. It already just following
called me. Yeah, yeah, like I know I already got
(06:03):
the phone call.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Because the ex players are like rambassadors and stuff. I
don't know what that makes you.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Did did you say rambassadors?
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (06:10):
For the Rams. I don't know. I mean it's in
my dream. I mean I'd be a pretty good Jets ambassador.
I mean, like, hey, I'll talk about a team again
that's been living off of one win for fifty years.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
I'll tell you about Wesley Walker.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Here we go, listen. Let me the next few minutes.
We're gonna go through the years from nineteen seventy four
to eighty four, the beginning of the Sack Exchange, the
end of the seventies. Did you know Lou Holtz used
to coach the New York Jets Yeah, let's start there
in nineteen seventy four.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Wow, yeah, you got Lou holtzon. So that's good.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
But here comes Hard Knocks. I'm watching Aaron Rodgers is
high five and saw Us Gardner. I'm look at all
this super Bowl trophy is super imposed on the screen
the entire time. They just have it in the corner.
This is awesome. This is so awesome. I can't even
tell you.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
So justin you ready to do an hour of radio
while he goes and does whatever it's gonna do to him.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
How the hell did you not bring?
Speaker 4 (07:01):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (07:01):
You came empty handed?
Speaker 4 (07:02):
It's the Uh it's the first episode of Hard Knocks
with the Jets. Yeah, where in the hell are the sandwiches?
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (07:08):
I do know.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Tonight was saying, I thought this is like my nights.
You guys would buy me sandwiches tonight, like this is mine.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
Now we're having to watch and endure this and have
our eyes bleeding.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
At least you can do is bring sandwiches. You want
to know how a Super Bowl team is built? From
the very beginning. This has given you an eagle eye
glance into turn on the sixty nine footage. How many?
How many teams? Are going to go, well, so this
is how you do it, and they're going to fight
to be on Hard Knocks next year and say, we
got to do it just like the Jets did it.
That's how cool. That's got one person. We gotta do
it just like the Jets, just like the Jets do it.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Unbelievable. Normally, I don't see this much green unless I'm
watching The Bishop Magic Don Juan. As part of Old School.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
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mean every pass is on the money. Aaron rd He's
in every single frame of the of Hard Knocks so far.
There's nothing that hasn't included Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
Which is why when he goes down, you guys are screwed.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Why are you gonna put that out there? Why are
you gonna put that out there? Well, why he's one
hundred years old. Why do you have to make me
sit here and think? At some point this year we're
gonna have to go through Zach Wilson We're gonna have
to have Zach Wilson. It's happening. Not no, if that happens, Frostburg,
what are.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
You gonna do keep my car?
Speaker 3 (08:27):
No?
Speaker 1 (08:27):
No, no, this is like I'm gonna take all the
tires off your car and that's it.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Wow, And I'm gonna have a good thing. I know
how to call and hold the time.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
I'm gonna tell tirec dot Com do not go to
Frostburg's house. No, that's a one place you set a
brand and you not go there for a while.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
You wait.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
No, no, no, no, no, no no. I'm telling them
they can't go there.
Speaker 6 (08:43):
Kay.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
They go to anybody's house, Nope, not going to yours.
They're not going to you.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
You can't go ten thousand installers, I mean, but they'll
come show it to you.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
No, not go not if I call, Hey, I talked
to those guys. I talked to those guys a couple
of times. I if that could tell him, Hey, you
don't go to Frostburg's house. What you said about the Jets.
Oh yeah, you're right, Jason, Right, we're gonna him go
with those.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
You're in Indianapolis, buddy, They don't they got they got
their own team. They're worried about it.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Your yess uh? Twitter and out about of Fresco. Mike
has swollen dome. The Jason Smith Show with Mike Carmon
Live from the tirec dot Com studios now while we
are watching the The Elegance of Hard Knocks, Yes, the
cult story today. Just if this doesn't tell you that
Jonathan Taylor is getting traded, nothing will. He leaves the
(09:29):
team to rehab and you can try to paint this
rosie saying, oh, the plan was always to have him leave,
which is what the Colts tried to put out there today.
But it doesn't matter. He is not coming back, and
he will be traded before the season begins. It's going
to happen. There's there's a way to handle a negotiation
(09:49):
and there's a way not to handle it. And yes,
we've heard a lot that that that Taylor's new agent
was really pushing for a new contract, making a lot
of noise about it. Maybe that's gotten into Jonathan Taylor's head.
Speaker 5 (09:59):
You know.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
The couple of people have said that, you know, he's
a little bit different than he was the beginning of
the year. Well, yeah, because the running backs had their
big conference call, and they said, hey, j T, you're
the next guy getting paid. Man, you got to make
sure that you standing up for all of us. So
now things are different, and jim Mercey, who is maybe
it wants to be in the running for worst owner ever.
I want to make sure all the bad owners. I
(10:21):
want to be at the top of that list now,
making sure that he's there. Because his comment when when
this first happened a week and a half ago, that
if me and Jonathan die tomorrow the NFL moves on,
how do you come back to the cult if you're
Jonathan Taylor after that? You can't.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
I think it was more if if I die and
Taylor's out of the league, he didn't kill Taylor off.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
It, how do you come back after that? You can't.
You've been told, hey, we're not giving you money, and
we and not only that, we have belittled you. I
belittled you in a statement and you're still looking for money.
And now I have basically said we're not giving it
to you. How do you come back? You don't. So
he's gonna sit until they trade him, and it's gonna
(11:05):
get really deep into the preseason, and the Colts are
gonna realize he's never gonna play for us again, and
they'll trade him. That's the only outcome. Now. Taylor's not
coming back to the team. He's not gonna show. They're
not going to give him a band aid contract with
some money. No, Jim Ursay decided, I'm gonna make this
combative and make it adversarial at a time when he's
got to read the room and get that. Hey, you know,
(11:27):
it's kind of a weird time now for running back,
so a little upset about things. They're not getting paid. Well,
what's the best thing to do here? Hey, you know,
say I understand their situation. Talk to Jonathan's agent. What's
the right thing to do? Because tempers are high. No, no, no,
I'm gonna as if I'm dying. He's gone. No one cares. Well, really,
that makes me want to come back and play for
the Colts. He is going to sit until he gets
traded and he's not going to be a cult and
(11:48):
they're gonna wait, and they're gonna wait. And I don't
know if it's just as simple as hey, Josh Jacobs,
will you show up and play for us for a year? Great,
we'll take him Raiders. You take Jonathan Taylor, but he's
going to get dealt because I just there's just no
way back for him. There's lots of ways back I
can see for players because a lot of its negotiation.
But Ursay has basically said, sorry, yeah, listen, we're talking
(12:09):
about death. Then out of the league in the NFL
doesn't care about you or me or anybody else. Yeah,
he's not coming back.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Well, I unfortunately, you know, while it's it's ham handed
and silly in terms of optic public relations, et cetera,
or say, ain't wrong here. God's done a lot of
crazy things. He's had an ownership tenure that is mired
with a lot of well, let's should we say highlights
and bullet points for the Wikipedia page, but for this one.
(12:40):
You got a guy on the final year of his
deal who played in eleven games last year, is still
dealing with the after effects of a surgery, and he's
gonna try to hold out and say we need more money.
That's a hard one, I mean, because like, what's if
you franchise him, it's it's ten to one. That's a
six million dollar raise. That's pretty good money, right, But
(13:01):
that's next year, right, now you're on the books for
four million dollars. Why should they renegotiate now when you're
coming off an injury and you're unavailable as of this moment,
your ankle is suddenly gonna feel better when you sign
a check to that level. Because this has been reported
all off season that he was having issues. And I
understand it's a difficult marketplace for the running backs, and
(13:23):
Taylor has been instrumental to what this team is. And yes,
if we look at it objectively, with Anthony Richardson coming
in as your number one always helps to have a good,
strong running game. Nobody disputes any of those things. However,
if her say you know, and management looks at it
and says, well, we're not re upping now, we got
(13:44):
to see what you do this year, how your ankle responds.
Who's to say that Jonathan Taylor hasn't already played his
best football. He's supposed to get him a thirty six
million dollar extension now, or whatever that money would be.
I'm sorry, Like, I get it's a crass statement, but
he's not wrong.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
No, no, he's not. But how do you say that
about your best player? But your best player also has
to realize where you're at.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
It's contentious, and you're basically as a as a position
group crying about a CBA that you just ratified again
two years ago. You know.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
But but there's a way to do it. There's a
way to say, hey, man, I'm sorry, this is the case.
We're gonna try to work something out next year. Unfortunately
this is it. And then there's going in front of
the media and saying, yeah, if I died and you
were gone, nobody would care. Now, you don't do that
to one of year. This is a guy you want
to perform on your team, and you have told him
nobody cares about you. No, how do you go back
(14:35):
and play there? Right? I mean, there's a there's a
different way to handle it without paying the guy. There's
a way to say, listen, let's do this. What if
we did this, what if we did this, We need
you to come back. But instead he decided to say, no,
I'm standing up for everybody else that that doesn't think
we should pay running backs, and I'm going to make
it combative with my star. There's not another owner that
would make it combative with his best Because Daniel Snyder's
(14:56):
out of the league, now. So there's not another owner
who would make it combat with his team's best player
to the point where I'm gonna insult you so you
don't come back.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Look, well, I'm not gonna say Zach Barton is the
Cowboys best player, but he would be up in the
top five right And he basically said, hey, Jerry Jones
basically told him to beat it. I need money for
this guy, that guy, and the other guy. So we've
seen it done twice in this offseason. Get ready, Hey,
make your phone calls. Make if you want Jonathan Taylor,
make your phone calls. You get him, You can get him.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
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Speaker 1 (15:33):
Well, we just watched, even though without the sound, I
am ready to call it, Mike Harmon, the greatest episode
in the history of Hard Knocks.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
It was.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Didn't see any sound. I don't know anything that was
said because we're doing the show. But Aaron Rodgers was
in every single frame of the video, dropping dives, throwing
the ball into baskets. He's talking on the sideline when
he's in a T shirt, and Robert Sala's in a
T shirt. It looks like he's the head coach and
Sala's the assistant coach coming up asking him questions. I mean, really,
Rodgers as the head coach of the offense. But I
(16:01):
mean it was it just looked like everything you would want,
and it looked like Hard Knocks that said to themselves, Okay,
now we could come in here and we could talk
about Rogers little bit. Yes, yes, then we have the
position battle at backup running back, we have a position
battle and defensive Listen, hey, guys, nobody cares about that.
Let's just make it all about Aaron Rodgers. Well, and
a little bit of Zach Wilson. Okay, fine, that's right,
(16:22):
but make sure we do Zach Wilson. We talk about
Aaron Rodgers. Okay. And that's kind of what it looked
like everything on Hard Knocks and was every time I
looked up, Aaron Rodgers is smiling, he's laughing, he's throwing
a long path. It's fantastic.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Well, I mean, you gotta show how much he loves
being there. He loves his teammates, he loves the city,
he loves it all. The final exchange is pretty funny.
As the closing credits rule about surfing and growing up
in Chico. So that was kind of funny. But it's
the idea for hard knocks. It's the sell the hell
(16:55):
out of your stars the other stuff for great little
side side stories. Right a little bit, Zach Wilson, here's
the walking up to the podium. Remember the pre draft
photo when he was in the mirror and that selfie
looked like he was going to prom and all the
jokes that transpired there. They made sure to really point
out how Rogers called the play for the fifty seven
(17:17):
yard completion. Of course, I love the reaction on the sideline.
That's an a one blank in throw right there. QB one, Frostburg,
you saw it. I saw it. We all heard it. Well.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
QB two can't throw fifty seven yards, So yeah, Zacha.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Listen, listen. After Rogers wins a couple of Super Bowls
in the next four years and retires, he'll be the
Jets head coach and he'll be coaching Zach Wilson. That'll
be fine. I'm okay with that. We have we had
a long deal with Aaron Rodgers being the head coach. Man,
every's gonna be drinking tea on Tuesday for their off day.
It's gonna be great.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
You know, this was a it was a fun episode.
And obviously when you try to highlight your stars and
you can get all this great background and he's smiling
the whole time, and he's meeting all these guys that
are chuckling about his age, and then he's putting on
a show throwing balls into baskets. I'd love to see
the unedited and how many air and throws there are,
but that's okay. And he was trying to impress his
(18:12):
actor buddy the Voice of God, and he kept bringing
that up. He's like, you know, you see him over there,
and yeah, he likes me. All of that kind of
fun stuff. No, it's like it means football's back. As
soon as the opening credits roll. As soon as he
got off that helicopter and we saw a shreiver, it's like, yeah,
he's not fighting Wolverine right now. He's gonna narrate the
(18:35):
blank out of this episode. Yeah, let's go.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
So while that's going on with Hard Knocks, we're gonna
play some Johnny Manziel audio for you right now. That
is just amazing. Now his documentary is coming out via
Netflix and has come out already, and you heard a
little bit last week. He talked about how he attempted
suicide during one of his benders and learning about the
life of Manzel, who as great as he was in college,
(19:01):
and and and the roller coaster ride he had in
the NFL. I mean, look, Johnny football was a really
really popular dude and everybody wanted to see him succeed.
He was fun, he was different, and he was his
own worst enemy. And this is taking you inside and
in depth everything with Manzel throughout his NFL career. Now,
what has just dropped is the latest episode of Untold,
(19:23):
which is the name of the Johnny Manziel documentary on Netflix.
We're gonna play some audio for you right now, and
this is from the most recent episode that just came
out a little while ago today. Apparently, when Manzell was
drafted by the Browns, obviously the Browns wanted him to
watch game film because you know, you kind of have
to as a show, and you can't just watch it
(19:43):
when you're at the at the field. You got to
watch it at home, right, This is how you get better.
He was given a team iPad where coaches could secretly
track the amount of time he spent watching film. So
here's a here's an iPad, great watch film, and the
coaches can tell how much time he spends on the
iPad watching game film. Here's a conversation with Johnny Manzel's
(20:08):
agent and the Browns general manager as to how much
tape Johnny Manziel actually watched.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Their gms, calling me going, he didn't watch tape.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
I'm like, well, he's got to watch some tape.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
It's like eb, his iPad hours is zero point zero zero.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Zero zero zero. They looked and they checked zero point
zero zero Blue Tarski zero point zero zero. Johnny Manzel
watched zero video zero film. What would you say you
do here? Johnny? Zero point zero zero hours of film
(20:48):
on his iPad when he's supposed to be watching at
least some getting ready for the next wonder.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
That kind of explains a lot, now, didn't it explain?
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Explain? And it's time you see a story. If you
show me, show me a guy that hasn't watched tape,
and I'll show you the story of a failed quarterback
right like what they took the you know, I mean, look,
the last time we heard about this to this level.
Was the JaMarcus Russell, right, the you know, the coaches
put one hundred dollars bill in the DVDs. They sent
him home with and and and he said, yeah, I
(21:19):
watch them all them all good. And they put one
hundred dollar bill in there. He didn't say anything about it.
They use that story for draft day, right for all
that I mean, but you see it. You can tell
being a quarterback and working in the NFL, it's hard, man.
There's a reason why the best of the best get
forty and forty five and fifty million dollars because they
have so much more responsibility than any other position, right,
(21:41):
I mean, it's the most important position on the field.
It's why quarterbacks win MVPs all the time. It's why
they get paid the most money. But it also comes
with a little bit more responsibility. Not that running backs
and wide receivers and defensive tackles can just say, Hey,
did I'm gone?
Speaker 6 (21:55):
Man?
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Hey, so are we done? I'm done. I'm gone going
to the beach. I'm done. I'm gone. Hey, I'm go
to see Barbie. Then I'm going to see Oppenheimer. Then
i'na come back and play video games till four in
the morning, Yeah, then a wake up for practice.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
No.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
But there's just a little bit more that goes along
with being a quarterback. And either you're a quarterback, you
have that gene in you or you don't. And to
see this is this surprising about Johnny Manziel, No, it's not.
Because Manziel is a guy who was who played even
in college with a very improvisational style that mentally you
could see that he was way past what he saw
(22:28):
in coverages. He had an instinct for the game that
was unmatch especially in college football. Some of the plays
he makes, being able to know exactly where to be
where he could buy time. But in the NFL, all
the dbs are fast, the defensive line is faster, the
linebackers are all big, they can all cover. You gotta
bring something else to the party. And when you succeed
(22:49):
on your own gifts, for as long as Johnny Manziel did,
you don't suddenly just get a work ethic. You don't decides, oh,
now I get to the NFL, Now I got I
gotta work.
Speaker 6 (22:58):
Man.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
I didn't watch it. I didn't watch a SEC film
with Texas A and m Man. I'd even go to practice.
They just had a guy dressed into my number two jersey.
I'dn't even go. Man, four years I didn't go, but
I showed up on Saturday, and boy I played great.
You don't suddenly just get that work ethic when you
have that kind of success early on in your career
and you are Johnny f and football and that's how
you are pushed. Do you really get to the NFL
(23:20):
and think, yeah, I really need to do more. No,
you think I got this. I know what I'm doing. Yeah, yeah,
all this, blah blah blah. Watch watch film, watch all this.
I'm Johnny Manzielman. I'm a Heisman Trophy winner. I got
don't worry about I can continue to do my thing
and not have to worry about doing what everybody else does.
And tada here he is out of the league.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Yeah, I mean you go down the line. I mean
we've seen it a couple of times. The best stuff
that JaMarcus Russell was right blank tapes and Bruce Gradkowski
was on the team with him, saying he bribed him
by bringing satchels of cheeseburgers for them to sit and
commiserate over eeple but you know, I mean, think about
the contract we watched signed by Kyler Murray and all
(24:00):
the back and forth before that finally went down, was
all right, he doesn't study enough, he's playing too many
video games. Same thing. Heisman winner, a guy who's kind
of a big deal, top ten pick both football and baseball,
all of these things, and the knock on him was
he wasn't working hard enough in the film room. And
we'll see what happens. Seems to have a nice rapport
(24:21):
going with the new coaching staff and front office and
everything else, but is he destined and doomed to repeat
that history? You know, do you do you learn after
all the success and after the mega contract coming back
off injury. We'll see what happens as the year flows on,
if he even plays another down. But for Manzell, I mean,
(24:42):
it just explained so many things, right, heartbreaking. The other
part of it, you know, talking about where he was
mentally and all of that, I mean, that is just
you know, you cringe and you send up the prayers
that you know you find your piece and keep going
and find the good. But you know, this part of
it really explains an awful lot of what we didn't
(25:05):
see on Sundays.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
You know. And it's not just about the lack of
a hard work the stuff I need to do. I
have it all. I have it all taken care of
very rarely. And there's some people that I see in
the world that do things creatively for a living, can
just show up and do their thing right and just
kind of do what they do for a living, not
put a lot of work in and not really take
(25:28):
it seriously and be successful. So sometimes it's really difficult,
and it sucks to see people do that because that
shows you that, you know, hey, listen, you don't always
need hard work. But the one thing that I have
seen all across you know, the board in this profession,
but anytime you do something that is subjective that can
be criticized that you can actually see quantitative results on,
is that the most successful people are the ones that
(25:51):
take what they do for a living seriously. Doesn't mean
you have to be completely serious about it and not
have fun, but you have to take what you do
serious and understand about the responsibility that goes along with
what you're doing. And this could be I got to
take my responsibility as a bank manager very seriously. I
can take my responsibility, uh you know, running a a
(26:12):
a website seriously, my responsibility as a quarterback seriously, anything
where I can see the results and I can be
judged as to how I'm working. You need to take
what you do for a living serious because if you don't, eventually,
most likely you're gonna wind up out of that because
there's other people that will outwork you, that will will
take what they're doing more seriously than you and want
(26:33):
to be able to succeed. And that's the other part
of Johnny Manziel. Did he ever take the NFL seriously?
Did you ever take his career here? Or is he
doing or was he on the field warming up before games?
Texting on his phone? You know what was he was?
He was he not watching film? All of these things?
You know what Johnny Manziel was doing. And and you
know that he wasn't taking what he did for a
living seriously because if he did, he would have worked
(26:54):
a little harder. But that that's the other part is
I can see every single time when I I see
someone taking what they do for I go that person's
going to be successful whenever they not to know how successful,
but they're gonna be successful. They're gonna get what they
want because they know this is what I want and
I got to work hard at it. And I have
to understand that I have a responsibility if I'm going
to succeed because other people want what I have. Right.
(27:16):
If you're a manager at a bank, other people want
to be the manager. If you're running a website, other
people want to run that website. If you're a quarterback,
other people want to be the quarterback. And that's the
other part of Johnny Manzel and why he ultimately failed.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
Yeah, And sometimes you can say or do stuff and
no matter how bad it is, you just shrug and go, well,
what are they going to do to me in the NFL?
That doesn't happen with quarterbacks? That you will find your
way on the outside looking infast.
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Speaker 5 (28:12):
Jason, I will give you a big mac. If you
can name this artist, you'll give me a big mac.
I will buy you a big Mac.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
This is Luscius Jackson. It's not this is blink one.
How'd you know.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
This is?
Speaker 1 (28:32):
I don't know who is it.
Speaker 5 (28:33):
This is Makoto montshut Matsushika. Oh that was my next guest,
my next guest.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
I don't think you can say that on air. No,
you just did. You can see what happens Tony. Uh.
Big stuff going on in Major League Baseball. We will
get to the Kevin Brown situation because it looks like
everybody's favorite broadcaster is getting back on the air. Joining
us now on the hotline. Nobody better than our favorite
MLB broadcaster, MLB network insider, an interim head coach at
(29:01):
the University of Michigan football program. He's wearing khakis, he's tweeting,
he's covering it all. It is John Paul Morosi JP.
What's happening man, Good.
Speaker 6 (29:10):
Evening, my friends, I am actually coming to you live
from Queens, New York.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
How about that look at you. You got to see
the Cubs beat the Mets tonight.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Right after watching the Dodgers take down the Padres. Big
couple of.
Speaker 6 (29:22):
Days, right, and we have our game tomorrow night here
in New York, a showdown here Cubs and Mets. I
have to make sure I get that on there, that
will be on that will be Networks tomorrow night. And yes,
I did not expect that by the time I arrived
here in August that the one team we'd be talking
about a lot in terms of contending for a playoff
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spot would be the Cubs and the Mets would have
traded two Hall of Fame bound pitchers in the same
span of three days. But these are the times of
which we live, my friend.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Well, and also, and you didn't expect this that you're
going to got to play right field for the Mets tonight.
You did pretty well out there. I thought the fact
that you had a glove in one hand and your
microphone in the other and you still made a couple
of plays was pretty good.
Speaker 6 (30:05):
Amen. No, it's I will say this that when you
are going into the clubhouse of a team that has
just made a lot of trades. You have to sort
of do that thing where you're there on the first
day of school. You take attendance again, a lot of
meet and greet where your name tag, make sure that
you know all the new people there. I'm definitely having
that experience here in Queens this week.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
All right, well we'll get to what's going on with
Kevin Brown this craziness because as a broadcaster, look, I
know you had a big opinion on this, but I
want to ask you something we brought up on the
show last night. This would be completely against Major League
Baseball rules and it would never fly. But I don't
know that you could say no to this. At this
point after the trade deadline, the Angels had not won
a game. They are now eight games out of the
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wild Card. If the Angel said, hey, oh we change
our mind, we want to trade, show, heyo Tani?
Speaker 3 (30:55):
Who says no?
Speaker 1 (30:56):
I mean, really, who says no? Rob Mamfords A We'll
have our own show, heyo Tani. Trade deadline.
Speaker 6 (31:01):
The rules are the rules. I get it, but I
understand the spirit of what you're saying. And let's be honest.
We are now August the eighth. There are those in
the industry who believe that we should push back to
trade deadline until right about now basically what we're now
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one week. Just think think how different everything is a
week later, and it was a week ago on this
night that the angels kept them and now look at
where things have gone. And there is exactly this case.
And I'm sure it's going to be mentioned at the
General Managers meetings this offseason in November when all the
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gms get together that if there's an argument to move
it back by a week now that we're in a
world where we're not married to July thirty first at
four pm Eastern time anymore, I think you'll have a
lot of gms saying, you know what, I'll take the
extra week or the extra because this sport, because of
(32:03):
all the competitiveness and the number of teams that are
still in it or close to in it at the deadline,
it's really hard. It's hard to make a trade. And
so I think anything anytime you can give teams another
week's worth of clarity, it helps them out in a
huge way. And that would be the answer that we'll
never know is because they made that choice to pull
(32:27):
them off the market with about a week or so
to go before the deadline. If they were to have
all the games would have gone exactly as they did
and the deadline was tonight. My goodness, what kind of
choice they would have been faced with. From an angel standpoint, we'd.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
Be talking about that more than hard knocks. I can
tell you that.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
JP.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
Let me go back to that Mets Cub series for second.
Who found and how do they hit the reset button
on Cody Bellinger?
Speaker 6 (32:55):
Well, and to me it is one of the great
stories in baseball. I think he needed the scenery. I
think David Ross and the Cubs coaching staff have been
tremendous for him. I also think that he took Cody
did a real hard look at at what he wanted
to still get out of his career. Obviously, things came
very quickly for him. He was immediately NL Rookie of
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the Year type player wins, an MVP, wins the World
Series Championship. He was around a lot of winning very quickly,
and then all of a sudden, the game got pretty hard.
I think that the shoulder injury was part of it,
but I think he also realized that he still had
a lot of road to go in his career, strengthened
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the area around that shoulder, and then found a swing
that works for him with a little bit of an adjustment.
I mean, it's remarkable. I was speaking today with our
research department at MLB Network about is getting set for
tomorrow's game and his numbers against lefties. He's hitting better
than three hundred against lefties. He's able, he's been able
(33:58):
to do a lot of damage at two strikes. It's
unbelievable what he's doing right now. And I've just been
so impressed by the approach that Bellinger has taken and
the overall improvement in his game.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
JP Let's talk about Bellinger's old team for a second here,
because if you're a Major League Baseball team, you are
throwing your hands up and going, Okay, the Dodgers going.
They spend a lot of money, they have a great
minor league system, and they win the nl wes for
ten years, they win the World Series. I get it. Okay, Well,
this year they didn't spend money in the offseason. They
relied on the younger guys. Had a horrible injury to
(34:29):
Gavin Lux early on in the preseason, didn't really have
a lot of other guys step up. They made some
minor moves the deadline, Yeah, and there's still twenty games
over five hundred. I mean, this has to be so
disheartening for the rest of baseball. And this is the
most This is to me, is the most impressive thing
that Dodgers have done in the last decade because they
did not get better. Yes, they made solid moves the
(34:50):
deadline and getting i'm at Rosario for Cindergard is a
phenomenal move, But you know, Missario is a solid player,
Joe Kelly is a is a serviceable reliever, and here
they are still games over five hundred.
Speaker 6 (35:02):
When your superstars are unselfish and productive and play every day,
it is amazing what it does for your overall roster.
And that's exactly what they've got with Mookie Betts and
Freddie Freeman. And it's why, with all due respect to
the rest of the industry, why wouldn't showey Otani want
to play for the Dodgers this offseason? I think that too.
(35:23):
You look at this club. They've done a really good
job of sequencing and planning out when they make their
big investments in players, and you don't have to do
it every year. You don't have to sign a superstar
every year to have the right balance on a team
or to generally be in the market for all the superstars.
I don't think it was any accidents that when Nolan
(35:44):
Arnado was mentioned as being available, the Dodgers were mentioned
prominently in that conversation. I think that Andrew Friedman has
a list of players that he wants to acquire if
the circumstances are right. I would expect that Arenado's on
that list. I would expect the show is obviously prominently
on that list. But the thing is when your team
(36:05):
is already good, and when you want to call up
a James Outman and he comes up and plays really well,
and when Jason Hayward has a bounce back here for you,
and you trust your coaching staff that much that you
can bring in guys who are good Major leaguers but
not superstars, that your coaching staff is going to get
(36:26):
the most out of them. It is the perfect It's
the perfect organization. They're not perfect in every way, but
the way that the whole thing harmonizes is really something
cool to see. And we were in San Diego yesterday,
as you mentioned, and talking to Dave Roberts about exactly that,
when you've got unselfished superstars, it really makes the manager's
(36:48):
job easier. It sets the clear standard for the room.
And you look around the teams that have failed this year,
I think a lot of them have not had the
strength of club outse, chemistry and character that the Dodgers
have right now.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
Now, Ronald Acunya Junior got hit in the elbow today
x rays negative. But talking about that unselfishness, you mentioned
Freddie Freeman's name. The last couple of weeks, JP just
ridiculous numbers, hitting at a four to sixty clip, the
extra base hits. Has he caught Acunya in the MVP
polling amongst your peers there at MLB Network.
Speaker 6 (37:25):
You know, it's a great question. I think right now
that there is a There is not just a one
versus one, a Kunya versus Freeman. I think we've got
like a four player matrix here. I think Mooki is
part of the conversation. I think Matt Olsen's part of
the conversation. And listen, Acunya. If you are someone that
(37:46):
heavily indexes for base running, Acuna is probably going to
be your guy unless he misses his significant time with
an injury, because he's already banked all those stolen bases.
He's having one of those historic home runs stolen base
type seasons. So for all those reasons, he's a great choice.
But how could you not say that. Freddie Freeman's also
an amazing choice. I mean, he's been amazing so far
(38:09):
this season. In Matt Olson, he might hit darn near
sixty home runs. So it's And by the way, what
Mookie Betts does by playing second base is it opens
up the entire outfield for the for Dave Roberts. So
for example, yesterday against the righty starter, you move Mooki
into second base and then you have them all left
handed outfield. That allows you to get as many lefty
(38:30):
bats the lineup as possible. When you go Peralta Autman Hayward,
there's value in that too. So it's I think there
are four players that have a reasonable case. And the
thing I love about the MVP is don't make you
don't make your decision too early. I know Kuna was
the first half MVP and I got it, but let's
keep an open mind because this award can be won
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over the final six weeks of the season.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
Can they just do a tag team match at WWE
Payback and Pittsburgh le Zoo out of September.
Speaker 6 (38:59):
I mean, I think we're gonna see. Listen, if it's
not Brave Dodgers in the NLCS, then we've had a
significant upset somewhere.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
All right, jap, Let's bring into this conversation that has
just spread crazy over the last twenty four hours a
case of Orioles broadcaster Kevin Brown, who's going to get
to come back on Friday after he was suspended by
the team because they didn't like the fact that he
pointed out that the Orioles didn't play well at the
Trap against the Rays for the past few years. We
(39:32):
talked about this a lot last night. The video and
audio have been everywhere. Obviously, you've had some time to
look at this and see what other people in the
media are saying. What's your takeaway from this story?
Speaker 6 (39:42):
Well, a couple of things. I mean, we could go
on all hour about this, but I'll make a couple
of quick points. Number One, when I watched the video
and I saw the open of the show again, it
was the open to the broadcast, and for all of
us that have been involved in television, what happens and
(40:02):
what is said on the open of the broadcast is
not strictly the purview of the announcer. Okay, this is
something that's discussed at length with the production team, graphics,
There's a lot of people involved. So I think it
was very unfortunate that Kevin was singled out. Obviously he's
the front man and that's part of the business, but
that part was not fair. The second part is all
(40:25):
he said was factual, and so when we start policing
what is said when it's factual, we have a lot
of problems with that. Is that is not healthy, certainly
in topics that are much weightier than the season series
(40:46):
between the Oriols and Race separate conversation about life in
the world in twenty twenty three about what is factual
what's not. But to me, the manner in which the
Orioles have over come their struggles against that team frames
the story. That is essential in terms of how you
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set the scene for a broadcast, and when the broadcast
comes on the ear and says, wow, here's the Orioles.
They're playing exceptionally well, that's your best record in the division,
by the way, and look at how much better they're
playing against their division rather than they have in a
lot of years. That to me seems first of all
innocuous in any reasonable assessment of it, and second of
(41:27):
all important context because it tells the viewer. While this
is one further way in which the Oriols have gotten
a lot better. So to me, sports are about wins
and losses. Sports are about context and the journey. And
if we can't talk about what happened before and how
teams have adapted and improved, then I'm not quite sure
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what we can talk about, because that's how we measure
things in sports, wins and losses. And a final statement
on the whole situation. If there has been no discipline
or reaction for Kevin Brown, no one would be talking
about the open on the massive broadcast to that game
of Tropicana Field. No one outside of Baltimore would have
(42:12):
seen it or commented on it. The whole situation has
become much more, much more radioactive and more prominent simply
because of the reaction of the ball club. That's that's
what I see. It was. It was It was a
credible part of a broadcast, and it was important context,
but it was not, With all the respect to my
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friends who produced it, it was not spectacular and memorable
television in any real way except for the aftermath of it.
And I think that's where we have to remember perspective
that most things in life do tend to go off
into the ether when we don't grab them and make
them into these massive stories. And I think that was
(42:54):
a very very good lesson here for everybody involved.
Speaker 1 (42:58):
You can fall on Twitter at John Morosi, that is
at John Morosi MLB Network insider in Queens. Has the
Mets look to make their run? Okay, not really? Uh,
JP is always buddy, appreciate your time, Thanks so much,
great stuff, have a great week. We'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 6 (43:15):
Oh that's my friends will enjoy the conversation and what
We'll look forward to talking next week as well, when
I'll have some more suggestions for the Mets future.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
I'm very good, duty good. Thanks a bunch. JP.
Speaker 3 (43:24):
Solving problems, shit
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