August 9, 2023 • 34 mins
Jason Smith and Mike Harmon celebrate Episode 1 of Hard Knocks with the Jets. Jonathan Taylor is getting traded before the season starts. And find out why the Commanders need a kick in the ass!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
Give this you're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
It's time for Hard Knocks on TV he TV Jets World,
and we're just living in it. It's Hard Knocks time
on HBO. We're just gonna We're just gonna jyp this
in progress. We're just gonna just join in progress. We'll
go and we'll just hear Hard Knocks for the next hour.
It's all we need. The Hard Knocks is starting on
(00:50):
HBO right now. They're not even two minutes in and
Aaron Rodgers has been featured in every single frame of video.
Mike Harmon say, why this is the beginning.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
It's just a documentary of Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
This is no This is everybody getting to see what
a Super Bowl champion is built and how they're built.
From summers Green playing field all the way to Lombardi Trophy.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
My Kids franchise is so bleeping sorry that it started
with Namath.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Well, it's got to start with me. God, it's gotta
start with Nigmath. It's name.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
I mean, look, there had to be odds on what
the first scene was gonna be, right, like the opening
opening of the show, Like, what's the image, what's the sound?
What's is it a whistle? Is it someone putting up cones?
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Is highlight from fifty years ago?
Speaker 3 (01:35):
That's is it a blocking sled?
Speaker 1 (01:37):
No?
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Instead, it's Joe Namath from fifty years.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Listen, the Jets have been living off one win for
fifty years, all right, Just so, yeah, it's a big
win and maybe the biggest win in the history of
the NFL, but it's still one win. We've been living
off that for fifty years.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
I want that jet that these guys are running around in,
you know in the opening montage, like the toys, because
I had a cool batmobile when I was a kid,
and eventually my mom gave it away and I was upset.
I was like, we didn't have enough storage room for that,
I mean, because because now that thing would be worth thousands.
It was one of those push pedal like that was
what they just had a couple of kids running around
in jets that somebody fabricated. Now we need to find
(02:13):
one of those, just like we like those old baseball
cards when they used to drive those guys out from
the bullpen. So, uh yeah, it's hard knocks night Smith.
Can you can you contain your.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
I'm ready, I'm ready. I'll tell you.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
I'll tell you that low super Bowl trophy.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Yeah, well it's at least it's you know, a lot
of teams don't have any, so I'm just happy that
we have one.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
I got walking in with the uh barbed wire baseball bat.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
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here's how crazy m jets hard knocks everything going on.
I had a dream about Zach Wilson. You get not
(03:00):
Zach Wilson yet?
Speaker 3 (03:01):
No?
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Well not really, I don't understand. I don't understand this
because obviously you know Rogers, Rogers, Rogers. But I had
a dream that Zach Wilson was making an autograph appearance
at the mall near my house, and the Jets called
me to like keep an eye on him and like
to make sure everything went okay, Like, hey, he's gonna
(03:23):
be signing autographs, can you make sure things go okay?
And I show up and there's Zach Wilson and he's
actually shorter than me, which is kind of but I mean,
I guess that's I'm showing my dominance in my dream,
because you know, I'm five nine, and somehow he's shorter
than i. Its he's probably like five six in my dream.
And we go into this mall restaurant where he's gonna
be signing the autographs and and and he says, well,
(03:43):
I'm gonna be standing here at the host podium and
people are gonna come up to me while they're coming
into the restaurant. So I was a guy standing near
the podium and people were coming up to him ask
him if they could get a seat, and he said, no,
I'm here to sign autographs, and they thought he was
actually the host of the uh of the restaurant, and
and people were asking, and I had to jump in
and say, hey, if you want an autograph from Zach Wilson,
(04:04):
it's here. That's that that that's how wound, How woundly
tight I am right now, how tightly wound I am
with this.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
That's your dream of some jalapeno shooters or whatever, jalapeno
poppers and and go from there, some more flair on you.
And it wasn't like, uh, hold on justin just like
it was it the lebron coming for pizza.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
No, he actually showed up. Yeah, no, no, this is
I met Zach Wilson at the mall. I really can't
it over the fact that I was taller than him. Yeah,
I mean it's it's it's my DaMina.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
That's a tall man.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
No, I'm five nine, and you know Zach Wilson is
taller than that. But the fact that now he's signing out,
he must have been, like I said, he must have
been like five six in my dream, because I was
really taller than he was. And they want and the
Jets called me, hey, can you can you help him
a little bit west? Sure, I'll go, I'll go there
and do it. And I mean I'm at the restaurer,
the restaurant in the mall nearby hous and people are
coming up asking for autographs or saying, hey, I'm the
(04:55):
table for five. Can we sit outside? And he has
to tell people, which I don't think that's that far
off for Zach Wilson. Depending on how Rogers goes with
the Jets that maybe that's what he's doing in a
couple of years. But still, I mean, that was that
was a dream. That was a dream. I don't understand it.
I couldn't have a dream about Rogers winning the Super
Bowl and me running around going Rogers Rogers. No, no, no, no, no,
(05:16):
it's all about that and and instead it's about Zach Wilson.
I mean, come on, man, so.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Now you're a fireman ed? Yeah, that's his dream, justin
he wants to be fireman ed.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Now, Jason, did you take Zach Wilson the lids and
teach him how to hand out house or.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Here's what you do and you find somebody who likes
you, you can't have a hat right here?
Speaker 3 (05:37):
What they call the Jets guys.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
I don't know that it was. It was the nothing happened,
But it was just I was at the mall because
I said, the Jets called me like there was no
phone call, Like I didn't actually hear from Robert Solo
or Joe Douglas. It was just I was there, like
the Jets had already called me, like off dream like
like offscreen, it was off dreams and already yeah, yeah,
like I already got the phone call.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Because the ex players are like rambassadors and stuff. I
don't know what that makes you.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Did you did you say rambassadors?
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (06:08):
For the Rams' I don't know. I mean it's in
my dream. I mean I'd be a pretty good Jets ambassador.
I mean, like, hey, I'll talk about a team again
that's been living off of one win for fifty years.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
I'll tell you about Wesley Walker.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Here we go, listen. Let me the next few minutes.
We're going to go through the years from nineteen seventy
four to eighty four, the beginning of the Sack Exchange,
the end of the seventies. Did you know Lou Holtz
used to coach the New York Jets. Yeah, let's start
there in nineteen seventy four.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Wow, yeah, you got Lou holtzon.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
So that's good, but here comes Hard Knocks. I'm watching
Aaron Rodgers is high five and saw Us Gardner. I'm
looking at Oh, this super Bowl trophy is superimposed on
the screen the entire time. They just have it in
the corner. This is awesome. This is so awesome. I
can't even tell you.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
So justin you're ready to do an hour of radio
while he goes and does whatever this is gonna do it?
Speaker 4 (06:58):
Did you not bring? You came empty handed? It's the
Uh it's the first episode of Hard Knocks with the Jets. Yeah,
what in the hell are the sandwiches?
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (07:06):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Tonight was saying, I thought this is like my nights.
You guys would buy me sandwiches tonight like this is mine.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
Now we're having to watch and endure this and have
our eyes bleeding.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
How least you can do is bring sandwiches. You want
to know how a Super Bowl team is built from
the very beginning. This has given you an eagle eye
glance into turn on the sixty nine footage? How many?
How many teams are going to go? Well, so this
is how you do it, and they're going to fight
to be on Hard Knocks next year and say, we
got to do it just like the Jets did it.
That's how cool. That's got one person. We gotta do
it just like the Jets, Just like the Jets do it.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Unbelievable. Normally, I don't see this much green unless I'm
watching The Bishop Magic Don Juan. As part of Old School.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
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mean every he passes on the money. Aaron right, He's
in every single frame of the of Hard Knocks so far.
There's nothing that hasn't included Aaron Rodgers, which is why
(08:09):
when he goes down, you guys are screwed. Why are
you gonna put that out there? Why are you gonna
put that out there? Well, why he's one hundred years old.
Why do you have to make me sitit here and think,
at some point this year we're gonna have to go
through Zach Wilson. We're gonna have to have Zach Wilson.
It's happening, not no if that happens, Frostburg. What are
you gonna do keep my car?
Speaker 3 (08:25):
No?
Speaker 1 (08:25):
No, no, this is like I'm gonna take all the
tires off your car and that's it. Wow, and I'm
gonna have a good thing. I know how to call
and hold the tire tire dot Comcause you do not
go to Frostburg's house. No, that's the one place you
set a brand new You not go there for a while.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
You wait.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm telling them
they can't go there. Kay. They go to anybody's house. No,
not to yours. They're not going to you.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
You can't go ten thousand installers. I mean, but they'll
come shot to you.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
No, not go not if I call, Hey, I talked
to those guys. I talked to those guys a couple
of times. If that could tell him, hey, you don't
go to Frostburg's house. What you said about the Jets.
Oh yeah, you're right, Jason, right where. We're gonna let
him go with those.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
You're in Indianapolis, buddy, they don't. They got they got
their own team. They're worried about it.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
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Live from the tirerec dot Com studios now while we
are watching the The Elegance of Hard Knocks, Yes, the
cult story today. Just if this doesn't tell you that
Jonathan Taylor is getting traded, nothing will. He leaves the
(09:27):
team to rehab and you can try to paint this
rosie saying, oh, the plan was always to have him leave,
which is what the Colts tried to put out there today.
But it doesn't matter. He is not coming back, and
he will be traded before the season begins. It's going
to happen. There's there's a way to handle a negotiation
(09:47):
and there's a way not to handle it. And yes,
we've heard a lot that that that Taylor's new agent
was really pushing for a new contract, making a lot
of noise about maybe that's gotten into Jonathan Taylor's head.
You know. The couple of people have said that, ah,
you know, he's a little bit different than he was
the beginning of the year. Well, yeah, because the running
backs had their big conference call and they said, hey, JT,
you're the next guy getting paid. Man, you got to
(10:08):
make sure that you standing up for all of us.
So now things are different, and Jim Mersey, who is
maybe it, wants to be in the running for worst
owner ever. I want to make sure all the bad owners.
I want to be at the top of that list now,
making sure that he's there. Because his comment when when
this first happened a week and a half ago, that
(10:28):
if me and Jonathan die tomorrow the NFL moves on,
how do you come back to the cult if you're
Jonathan Taylor after that? You can't.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
I think I think it was more if if I
die and Taylor's out of the league, he didn't kill
Taylor off it.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
How do you come back after that? You can't. You've
been told, hey, we're not giving you money, and we
and not only that, we have belittled you. I belittled
you in a statement and you're still looking for money,
and now I have basically said we're not giving it
to you. How do you come back? You don't. So
he's gonna sit until they trade him, and it's gonna
(11:03):
get really deep into the preseason and the Colts are
gonna realize he's never gonna play for us again, and
they'll trade him. That's the only outcome. Now, Taylor's not
coming back to the team. He's not gonna show. They're
not gonna give him a band aid contract with some money. No,
Jim Ursay decided, I'm gonna make this combative and make
it adversarial at a time when he's got to read
the room and get that. Hey, you know, it's kind
(11:26):
of a weird time now for running backs, so a
little upset about things. They're not getting paid. Well, what's
the best thing to do here? Hey, you know, say
I understand their situation. Talk to Jonathan's agent. What's the
right thing to do? Because tempers are high. No, no, no,
I'm gonna as if I'm dying. He's gone. No one cares. Well,
really that makes me want to come back and play
for the Colts. He is going to sit until he
gets traded and he's not gonna be a cult and
(11:47):
they're gonna wait, They're gonna wait. And I don't know
if it's just as simple as hey, Josh Jacobs, will
you show up and play for us for a year? Great,
we'll take him Raiders, you take Jonathan Taylor. But he's
going to get dealt because I just there's just no
way back. For him. There's lots of ways back I
can see for players because a lot of its negotiation,
but Ursay has basically said, sorry, yeah, listen, we're talking
(12:07):
about death. Then out of the league and the NFL
doesn't care about you or me or anybody else. Yeah,
he's not coming back.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Well I unfortunately, you know, while it's it's ham handed
and silly in terms of optic public relations, et cetera,
or say, ain't wrong here. God's done a lot of
crazy things. He's had an ownership tenure that is mired
with a lot of well, let's should we say highlights
and bullet points for the Wikipedia page, but for this one.
(12:38):
You got a guy on the final year of his
deal who played in eleven games last year, is still
dealing with the after effects of a surgery, and he's
gonna try to hold out and say we need more money.
That's a hard one, I mean, because like, what's if
you franchise him, it's it's ten to one. That's a
six million dollar raise. That's pretty good money, right, But
(12:59):
that's now, ye, right now, you're on the books for
four million dollars. Why should they renegotiate now when you're
coming off an injury and you're unavailable as of this moment,
your ankle is suddenly gonna feel better when you sign
a check to that level because this has been reported
all off season that he was having issues. And I
understand it's a difficult marketplace for the running backs, and
(13:21):
Taylor has been instrumental to what this team is. And yes,
if we look at it objectively, with Anthony Richardson coming
in as your number one, always helps to have a good,
strong running game. Nobody disputes any of those things. However,
if her say you know, and management looks at it
and says, well, we're not re upping now, we got
(13:42):
to see what you do this year, how your ankle responds.
Who's to say that Jonathan Taylor hasn't already played his
best football. He's supposed to get him a thirty six
million dollar extension now or whatever that money would be.
I'm sorry, Like, I get it's a crass statement, but
he's not wrong.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
No, no, he's not. But how do you how do
you say that about your best player? Your best player?
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Also, to realize where you're at, it's contentious and you're
basically as a as a position group crying about a
CBA that you just ratified again two years ago. You no,
But there's a.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Way to do it. There's a way to say, hey, man,
I'm sorry, this is the case. We're gonna try to
work something out next year. Unfortunately this is it. And
then there's going in front of the media and saying, yeah,
if I died and you were gone, nobody would care. Now,
you don't do that to one of year. This is
a guy you want to perform on your team, and
you have told him nobody cares about you. No, how
do you go back and play there?
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Right?
Speaker 1 (14:34):
I mean, there's a there's a different way to handle
it without paying the guy. There's a way to say, listen,
let's do this. What if we did this, what if
we did this, We need you to come back. But
instead he decided to say no, I'm standing up for
everybody else that that doesn't think we should pay running backs,
and I'm going to make it combative with my star.
There's not another owner that would make it combative with
his best because Daniel Snyder's out of the league now,
(14:55):
so there's not another owner who would make it combative
with his team's best play to the point where I'm
gonna insult you so you don't come back.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Look, well, I'm not gonna say Zach Barton is the Cowboys'
best player, but he would be up in the top
five right And he basically said, hey, Jerry Jones basically
told him to beat it. I need money for this guy,
that guy, and the other guy. So we've seen it
done twice this offseason.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Get ready, Hey, make your phone calls, make you if
you want Jonathan Taylor, make your phone calls. You get him,
You can get him.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
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Speaker 3 (15:54):
Man.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
They're showing him at Jets practice right now. The beginning
of Hard Knocks. So far, hard has been basically everything
Aaron Rodgers has done since signing with the Jets. Which
that's television, man, that's television. Everything he's done, look at him.
Look at Aaron rodd Every pass he's thrown, he's throwing
the ball all the way, you know, fifty yards downfield
(16:16):
into a basket.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Look at it.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
It's everything. That's fantastic.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
And then he couldn't complete a pass because he was
afraid to go at Sauce Gardner.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Oh, that's just for the cameras.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
That's just Sauce Gardner own and Garrett Wilson.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
That's fun time.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
And again that's fine. The voice of God shows up
and he's like a little kid. Now, here's good.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Now, here's the thing. Now, I'm gonna ask this question
here because this is a question. So this was filmed
now because live Schreiber shows up via helicopter. Yeah, okay, Now,
this was filmed a couple of weeks ago, and I'm
sure they did a little bit before the arrival, before
the beginning of camp. The strike was still going on,
and Live Schreiber is featured on this. So this was
(16:54):
shot and he's on the air while this is going on.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Is an exempted production.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
I I do you know, the fact that it's a
reality show. Maybe the rules are different, but I'm pretty
sure the strike was happening while Live Schreiber was. I
don't know if he got special I mean maybe he
called it, Hey, dude, this is the Jets, and they said, oh, yes,
the Jets go ahead. One go, go go. It's the
Jets go ahead. But like they show him showing up
in a helicopter, here's Live Schreiber and everything. I mean,
(17:24):
he's technically he gets paid for this, right because he's
the narrator of Hard Knocks and he's working. I mean,
it's it's it's a little weird right now, is a
little weird.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Well, I keep wondering about exemptions. There's been a lot
of talk back and forth depending on on how a
production comes together independent contracts that are outside of the
usual standard union purview. So perhaps Hard Knocks is in
that he got an exemption because he's generally, uh, just
(17:55):
a voiceover guy. Is that a different union. I don't know,
like how much it's fragmented, but the strike began on
July fourteenth, so it would certainly be after that.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Yeah, yeah, so I mean I don't know, I mean, yes,
he's a voiceover guy, but he's on camera. Yeah, Cara
on camera?
Speaker 3 (18:19):
But is he acting? Is he just himself there?
Speaker 1 (18:22):
He Well, he's lived Schreiber. Yes, I mean He'sby's voice
of God, Voice of God, you know.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
But is he always acting? In this case, it was
I'm just a big fan of yours. Yeah, I'm a
big fan of yours. I love all your movies. You
had Mkkole Hardman earlier talking about Aaron Rodgers going I've
been watching you since I was seven, so you ain't
getting any ball thrown your way. But for Schreiber, yeah,
I mean, I guess it becomes one of those debatable
points of contention because we've certainly seen a lot of
(18:49):
back and forth with with the actors calling out others
for taking roles and continuing production. I mean, I know
that Brad Pitt movie that he was he was working on,
they went a few extra days before they finally shut
down because of the backlash. Right, he's doing that F
one deal and they were renting out a track and
(19:11):
had all these different production elements and they finally like,
all right, we're on hiatus for several months. That's it.
Because his reputation as a the good union guy and
representative of actors got called into question. I wonder if
shilling for the Jets will do the same thing to
live sets.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
I heard it he got the pass because it's charity.
Oh no, very nicely. You're funny, you're funny. No, because
remember they did that for what was a haunted mansion.
Because they did they were gonna have the red carpet premiere,
but it was after the strike, so instead they got
people who played the characters at the Haunted Mansion at
Disneyland to come and do the red carpet for it, which, okay,
(19:52):
that's cool. You had performers come do it. It's just
a weird thing. I mean, the strike is a really
big deal. And suddenly here's liv Schreiber's showing up and
he's they show him walking on the practice field. It's
like one of those scenes in the movies when when
when the guy is walking in slow motion and he
just takes a lighter and throws it behind him and
blows something up. Yet like that was kind of the
shot of Lipschreiber.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
The line was pretty funny. He goes, well, I planned
to drive, but they thought the helicopter would look better.
I wish i'd iron my shirt.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
They just showed message Man and Aaron Rodgers get out
of a cloudy van and stop stop.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
With that, Aaron.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
I mean we saw Curtis Martin, the guy you tried
to take his end.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Yeah, this is so awesome. This is just something.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Takes barbar Jason Garrett. And then it got to method
Man and then he was addressing the team.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Yeah, well you know, you let method Man address the
team if he needs to.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
It's next time stuff right there.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Let me let TJ. Let me tell you about all
the methods that the Jets should use to win games.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Here, DJ, you're just so giddy, you kidding.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
And now even when I have to sew Zach Wilson
on TV, I'm like, yeah, it's fine. This doesn't count.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
Channeling his inner Johnny Lawrence though he's got a headband
going on.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
I just I have to watch Zach wilt That's fine.
But there's another big deal in the NFL today, And
I was really surprised to see it because I knew
what the first reaction was going to be. Ron rivera
uh head coach the Washington you currently the Commanders. They
could have a new name by tonight who knows uh
said that in an interview, some of the players are
(21:19):
having difficulty with new offensive coord Eric Benemy's level of intensity,
and it's a thing. And some of the players have
talked to him about it and said, hey, do you
think you know coach could dial it back a bit.
And and for the most part, Ron Rivera had Eric B.
Enemy's back saying listen, you know he's gonna teach you
a lot of stuff and this is who he is.
(21:40):
And and Eric B. Enemy said, after practicing, I can't
change who I am. I'm intense. I'm going to get them.
This is this is how we're going to build a culture.
And to see all the players upset, I knew what
the first reaction was gonna be. See, this is why
the enemy is not a head coach, right, the players,
all the stuff we were told about him in Kansas City, Oh,
(22:00):
all the great stuff by Mahomes and Kelsey, how.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Great he is. I knew this was a lie.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
And he knew. This is why he's not a head coach.
No one wanted to hire him. Uh, okay, okay, you
know what, Let's just stop for a second. Let's look
at two groups here in this story, Let's look at
Eric the enemy, and let's look at the Washington commanders.
Let's look at a guy who's got multiple Super Bowl
rings as an offensive coordinator. And let's look at a
team that is trying to get over the hump of
eight wins in a season for the first time in
(22:26):
like six years. Okay, you have no winning culture in Washington.
As good a head coach as Ron Rivera is as
well as he is shepherd of this team through all
the ridiculous controversies they've had to go through. This is
not a winning franchise. And they have some talent. And
you know what, I'll tell you this, there's times where,
you know what, players need a kick in the ass. Everybody,
(22:47):
every one of us, at some point needs a kick
in the ass. Right, Sometimes he'd a hug, and sometimes
he'd a kick in the ass. And the time you
need a kick in the ass is when you don't
think you need one. I've seen that so many times
in my life. Hey, I don't need you to tell
me this right now. I don't need to tell me
this right No, just by your reaction, I could tell
that this is exactly when you need it, because there's
no time where someone's giving me a kick in the
(23:09):
ass or I said, you know I needed that. It's
always been no, I don't need that. Then I realized,
well after, you know, no, I kind of needed somebody
to tell me that for a minute here, that was
the right time to do it. That is absolutely the
time you need a kick in the ass. I'm gonna
hold you more responsible. And the fact that this is
how the players are responding to it tell me this
is exactly what Washington needs. You're trying to institute a
winning culture. You hired an OC that's gonna hopefully, hopefully
(23:32):
get the most out of your players. The one thing
that everybody says across the board about the enemy is
what he does all his individual work with all the players,
and now he gets them to play at a top level. Now,
could there be stuff communication, Yeah, certainly, there's a reason
why he's had a thousand interviews and it's not a
head coach in the NFL. But there's things he does right.
And if this guy comes in, I can't believe you're
(23:54):
gonna sit here and say, hey, this coach needs to
be so intense. Guys, You guys have stunk for a
long time. Now you guys have stunk. You're gonna be
the bottom of the NFC East again again. I think
you should listen to this guy coming in until he
proves that maybe this approach isn't working, because, like I said,
sometimes you'd a hug. Sometimes you need to kick in
the ass, and the commanders need to kick in the ass.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
Yeah, it's you know, the fief to building or you
get left to your own devices, you get lazy, go
into bad patterns. And certainly for the commanders, I mean
they've they've had a complete shakeup from the sale of
the squad all the way through Ron Rivera is also
I mean, it's gonna be a good cop, bad cop,
right old school guy and probably in a I've got
(24:38):
to perform really well or the enemies taking my job
kind of situation, or somebody else for that matter. So
you got that expectations for Sam Howell ap pretty high.
And if you look at that offense, they've got some
talent there. How much it translates to wins, I don't know,
but to your point, yeah, look, you can't always have
the warm, fuzzy guy that it's there for you, whether
(25:01):
it's a teacher, a boss, the guy that work or
woman that works next to you. Sometimes they need to
go to brass tacks and just tell this go back
to the your say conversation. It's not nice all the time,
but it's hitting a point. Just say, look, rubber hits
the road. And in this case, if the enemy's being
hard on guys in theory, what do you do? You
(25:21):
improve off that or you show that you don't belong
on the field by cowering right the old thing you
and I have talked about for a decade here on
Vox Sports Radio. If the guy is going to be
hampered affected and you're going to quote unquote lose him
by benching him, he's never your guy. He's not your
guy if he's going to wilt mentally, and b enemy's
(25:43):
trying to figure that out in the first week of camp.
Who are my guys that are ready to play? And
sometimes that requires some some different disciplinary measures, different drills
to be run and looking for that operational efficiency, because
that's really you look at what the chiefs were and
(26:03):
we could talk about the improvisation of Patrick Mahomes when
things broke down, but it's still a lot about timing,
getting the ball out and guys being in their space.
And so when you're going to Washington, which year after
year we've cited the organizational failures off the field, but
certainly on it, you've had very few bright spots, some
(26:23):
great players that have come through, and a couple of
them that are on the roster. Now that this is
why you brought him in to try to kick everybody
in the ass to get moving. And so if players
are complaining, that's a good thing because you know what,
make a common enemy, and he'll be the common enemy. Yeah,
because what are they gonna do, Go tank and say, well,
blake that guy will get him fired. Guess what, You'll
(26:45):
be out of the league.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Yeah. Look, it's that's another great part of it is that, hey,
if they're hating, if they're hating me, then they're loving
each other. And sometimes that's a great coach is a
way to get things done. Too. A lot of times
your best coaching has done when players don't really understand
that you're coing them. Oh now, I get now, I
see why I.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
Don't know, you know.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
And and that's and that's a crazy thing is that
I see I see it in youth sports all the time.
You know coaching. I know you see it with your
daughter and I see it. Coaching is that so many
people parents and and administrators and people that run leagues
and clubs think that putting out cones and ladders and
doing all these Hey, this drill that I looked up
(27:27):
on YouTube, that's coaching and that's all you need to do.
Coaching was No, that stuff is important. I get it,
that stuff is important that you want to be doing.
But sometimes you're coaching. Is what you need to do
mentally to a player to get them to play at
their highest level. That's coaching too. But a lot of
people don't see that. They want to just see a
practice that. Boy, this looks like a clinic. Man, it's
a clinic that I would pay a lot of money for. Oh,
(27:47):
this looks like a press sometimes yelling at a guy
and saying, hey, giving you a little bit of accountability,
telling you to hustle through a drill or something else.
That's coaching, and that and that makes you into being
a better player. It puts you on notice. It's all
about getting a player to play at the highest level
he can play at. And you don't think the commanders
ran you think they're all going to just say that's it,
I'm done, I'm not gonna do it. No, you got
(28:08):
to respond to this because are you trying to win
or not? And you bring in a guy with two
super Bowl rings in the last four years, so he's
a guy that at least for now you got to
listen to and say, all right, let's try it your way,
because there's a reason why they brought him in and
the other ways weren't working. So this is what we
kind of have to do.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
Yeah, I mean, you bring up the youth sports kind
of thing, because every once in a while there's the
the loud I'm screaming at you, just to scream at you.
But then there's the I gotta get your attention because
you're making the same mistake and people need to know
the difference. And if the kid wilts or the adult
in this case wilts because he's being called out in
front of the squad, in this case, it would be
(28:44):
for your jets. Let's just translate it. There in front
of the harsh cameras of Hard.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Knock, we're calling out Zach Wilson.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
Well, they just had the Zach Wilson you know, introduction
segment Okay, so I know you celebrate his entire catalog,
but just the idea that you you're either going to
rise to the occasion or guess what, there's another player ready.
And that's the way it has to be, right because
we watch, especially in the NFL, right college football, you
(29:12):
get some more more frequency of walkover games right over
the course of your twelve or thirteen game schedule. In
the NFL, average margin of victory is what three and
a half points, four and a half points something in
that vicinity. Most games decided by seven or fewer. So yeah,
it's the little things, the devil in the details that
(29:34):
makes between living and winning and losing living and dying rights.
As the Great Paccino taught us. And so for the Commanders,
it either works or it implodes because they're soft.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
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while the conference realignment is still going on, as is
this episode of Hard Knocks, Uh, some statements today, I
(30:30):
just want to make you shake your head. Greg Sankee's
commissioner of the sec S is, Oh, it's sad. What's
happened to the PAC twelve? Come on, just stop. Everybody's
chasing the dollars. No one's sad about anything.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
Just behind the west Man is a whiteboard you can't
see because he's been working in silence. We've been talking
about this for a while. Me, you buyer. We've had
this conversation, like everybody else is doing stuff here in
the shadows. You got Sankey meeting with whomever, and you
know that there's a master plan yet to be executed.
(31:03):
It's like, wait for it, wait for it. That guy's
gonna do something. I just know it. And today it's like, oh,
it's so sad, it's so awful. Play the violins while
I talk.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
This is this is where everything is right now. If
you want something crazy to think about this for college football,
let me. Let me just say this next year is
when USC and UCLA joined the Big Ten, It's when
Oklahoma and Texas leave for the SEC. What are the
odds that they are going to leave and join those
(31:33):
conferences in a year? And I don't mean are they
going to change their minds and go back It's not happening.
But are they ever really going to play in the
Big in the Big Ten and and and the UH
and in the the SEC. Or is something else going
to happen in the next three hundred and sixty five
days that changes it? Because that's the thing about college football.
It changes constantly because there's no leadership, there's no rudder,
(31:56):
there's this we're chasing the money. And here's a phone
call between a couple of conference come and here's a
phone call with a couple of school presidents and an
athletic director, and things change. I mean, I'll tell you,
if I wanted to make money, I would put a
long shot bet USC and UCLA never play a Big
Ten game. And the same thing we're going for Oklahoma
(32:16):
and Texas leaving, something else will happen that will change things.
Because this is a whole bleeping year ahead of time.
This is a whole year ahead where we got time
for other schools and conference to think, well, if we
had a super conference, we can get even more money.
We can find our way out of this contract. To
get that contract, I really you want to do that.
You want to make a long shot bet that's where
(32:36):
I would go because something could have think about a year.
A year is forever in college football. It's forever.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
Yo. I dig the line you're laying down there. I
don't know that it happens at such a breakneck pace.
I think it might require, but I mean everything else
has just been knee jerk and reactionary or so. It's EAMs.
Right last Friday, it was supposed to be, hey, we're
ten minutes from this car, and then they told us
to beat it and we had to scrap it all.
And now there's only four of us and two of
(33:06):
those teams are gonna leave, two going down.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
We were so close, and have we decided now let's
let's just bag the whole division one hundred years of playing. Yeah,
this is bag the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
It's like you sit down and you're gonna sign the
papers for a mortgage. You get to the fiftieth signature
and you know what, Nah, I'm just not feeling it anymore.
But you signed the first forty night, It's like, yeah,
without the fiftieth, it doesn't matter though, right, So yeah,
have a nice day, you know. It's that kind of situation.
So yeah, getting to the super conferences, I think it's
(33:37):
gonna take a little more. But you're right in that
you've got all these self interested conferences as they've always been.
And I believe, and maybe i'm the dissenting voice in
the madness, is I think that's the way it's gotta be.
I think that way it's always been. Now we get
down to where there's two, then yeah, there's just one
person to be the head of the table and bring
(34:00):
in the sharkterie for when they have to meet and
discuss things. But in this particular instance, everybody's self interested.
Everybody's got their territorial maps being set up, and it's
the battle for what's left right, the leftovers. That'll be
the third conference when this all shakes out. But it's
it's I think it's still a little further away. But
(34:23):
would it shock me if your prediction came true on
this one? No, Because everybody's trying to jostle for the
next bit, the next bag that they can get.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
USC and USA. I never play a big ten game.
Something else, something else, something else, something else, probably again.
A year is so long, it's absolutely forever in college football.
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It's time for Hard Knocks on TV he TV Jets World,
and we're just living in it. It's Hard Knocks time
on HBO. We're just gonna We're just gonna jyp this
in progress. We're just gonna just join in progress. We'll
go and we'll just hear Hard Knocks for the next hour.
It's all we need. The Hard Knocks is starting on
(00:50):
HBO right now. They're not even two minutes in and
Aaron Rodgers has been featured in every single frame of video.
Mike Harmon say, why this is the beginning.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
It's just a documentary of Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
This is no This is everybody getting to see what
a Super Bowl champion is built and how they're built.
From summers Green playing field all the way to Lombardi Trophy.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
My Kids franchise is so bleeping sorry that it started
with Namath.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Well, it's got to start with me. God, it's gotta
start with Nigmath. It's name.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
I mean, look, there had to be odds on what
the first scene was gonna be, right, like the opening
opening of the show, Like, what's the image, what's the sound?
What's is it a whistle? Is it someone putting up cones?
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Is highlight from fifty years ago?
Speaker 3 (01:35):
That's is it a blocking sled?
Speaker 1 (01:37):
No?
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Instead, it's Joe Namath from fifty years.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Listen, the Jets have been living off one win for
fifty years, all right, Just so, yeah, it's a big
win and maybe the biggest win in the history of
the NFL, but it's still one win. We've been living
off that for fifty years.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
I want that jet that these guys are running around in,
you know in the opening montage, like the toys, because
I had a cool batmobile when I was a kid,
and eventually my mom gave it away and I was upset.
I was like, we didn't have enough storage room for that,
I mean, because because now that thing would be worth thousands.
It was one of those push pedal like that was
what they just had a couple of kids running around
in jets that somebody fabricated. Now we need to find
(02:13):
one of those, just like we like those old baseball
cards when they used to drive those guys out from
the bullpen. So, uh yeah, it's hard knocks night Smith.
Can you can you contain your.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
I'm ready, I'm ready. I'll tell you.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
I'll tell you that low super Bowl trophy.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Yeah, well it's at least it's you know, a lot
of teams don't have any, so I'm just happy that
we have one.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
I got walking in with the uh barbed wire baseball bat.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
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is all Jets, all the time. Here's how crazy it was, right,
here's how crazy m jets hard knocks everything going on.
I had a dream about Zach Wilson. You get not
(03:00):
Zach Wilson yet?
Speaker 3 (03:01):
No?
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Well not really, I don't understand. I don't understand this
because obviously you know Rogers, Rogers, Rogers. But I had
a dream that Zach Wilson was making an autograph appearance
at the mall near my house, and the Jets called
me to like keep an eye on him and like
to make sure everything went okay, Like, hey, he's gonna
(03:23):
be signing autographs, can you make sure things go okay?
And I show up and there's Zach Wilson and he's
actually shorter than me, which is kind of but I mean,
I guess that's I'm showing my dominance in my dream,
because you know, I'm five nine, and somehow he's shorter
than i. Its he's probably like five six in my dream.
And we go into this mall restaurant where he's gonna
be signing the autographs and and and he says, well,
(03:43):
I'm gonna be standing here at the host podium and
people are gonna come up to me while they're coming
into the restaurant. So I was a guy standing near
the podium and people were coming up to him ask
him if they could get a seat, and he said, no,
I'm here to sign autographs, and they thought he was
actually the host of the uh of the restaurant, and
and people were asking, and I had to jump in
and say, hey, if you want an autograph from Zach Wilson,
(04:04):
it's here. That's that that that's how wound, How woundly
tight I am right now, how tightly wound I am
with this.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
That's your dream of some jalapeno shooters or whatever, jalapeno
poppers and and go from there, some more flair on you.
And it wasn't like, uh, hold on justin just like
it was it the lebron coming for pizza.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
No, he actually showed up. Yeah, no, no, this is
I met Zach Wilson at the mall. I really can't
it over the fact that I was taller than him. Yeah,
I mean it's it's it's my DaMina.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
That's a tall man.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
No, I'm five nine, and you know Zach Wilson is
taller than that. But the fact that now he's signing out,
he must have been, like I said, he must have
been like five six in my dream, because I was
really taller than he was. And they want and the
Jets called me, hey, can you can you help him
a little bit west? Sure, I'll go, I'll go there
and do it. And I mean I'm at the restaurer,
the restaurant in the mall nearby hous and people are
coming up asking for autographs or saying, hey, I'm the
(04:55):
table for five. Can we sit outside? And he has
to tell people, which I don't think that's that far
off for Zach Wilson. Depending on how Rogers goes with
the Jets that maybe that's what he's doing in a
couple of years. But still, I mean, that was that
was a dream. That was a dream. I don't understand it.
I couldn't have a dream about Rogers winning the Super
Bowl and me running around going Rogers Rogers. No, no, no, no, no,
(05:16):
it's all about that and and instead it's about Zach Wilson.
I mean, come on, man, so.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Now you're a fireman ed? Yeah, that's his dream, justin
he wants to be fireman ed.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Now, Jason, did you take Zach Wilson the lids and
teach him how to hand out house or.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Here's what you do and you find somebody who likes
you, you can't have a hat right here?
Speaker 3 (05:37):
What they call the Jets guys.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
I don't know that it was. It was the nothing happened,
But it was just I was at the mall because
I said, the Jets called me like there was no
phone call, Like I didn't actually hear from Robert Solo
or Joe Douglas. It was just I was there, like
the Jets had already called me, like off dream like
like offscreen, it was off dreams and already yeah, yeah,
like I already got the phone call.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Because the ex players are like rambassadors and stuff. I
don't know what that makes you.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Did you did you say rambassadors?
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (06:08):
For the Rams' I don't know. I mean it's in
my dream. I mean I'd be a pretty good Jets ambassador.
I mean, like, hey, I'll talk about a team again
that's been living off of one win for fifty years.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
I'll tell you about Wesley Walker.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Here we go, listen. Let me the next few minutes.
We're going to go through the years from nineteen seventy
four to eighty four, the beginning of the Sack Exchange,
the end of the seventies. Did you know Lou Holtz
used to coach the New York Jets. Yeah, let's start
there in nineteen seventy four.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Wow, yeah, you got Lou holtzon.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
So that's good, but here comes Hard Knocks. I'm watching
Aaron Rodgers is high five and saw Us Gardner. I'm
looking at Oh, this super Bowl trophy is superimposed on
the screen the entire time. They just have it in
the corner. This is awesome. This is so awesome. I
can't even tell you.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
So justin you're ready to do an hour of radio
while he goes and does whatever this is gonna do it?
Speaker 4 (06:58):
Did you not bring? You came empty handed? It's the
Uh it's the first episode of Hard Knocks with the Jets. Yeah,
what in the hell are the sandwiches?
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (07:06):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Tonight was saying, I thought this is like my nights.
You guys would buy me sandwiches tonight like this is mine.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
Now we're having to watch and endure this and have
our eyes bleeding.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
How least you can do is bring sandwiches. You want
to know how a Super Bowl team is built from
the very beginning. This has given you an eagle eye
glance into turn on the sixty nine footage? How many?
How many teams are going to go? Well, so this
is how you do it, and they're going to fight
to be on Hard Knocks next year and say, we
got to do it just like the Jets did it.
That's how cool. That's got one person. We gotta do
it just like the Jets, Just like the Jets do it.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Unbelievable. Normally, I don't see this much green unless I'm
watching The Bishop Magic Don Juan. As part of Old School.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
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mean every he passes on the money. Aaron right, He's
in every single frame of the of Hard Knocks so far.
There's nothing that hasn't included Aaron Rodgers, which is why
(08:09):
when he goes down, you guys are screwed. Why are
you gonna put that out there? Why are you gonna
put that out there? Well, why he's one hundred years old.
Why do you have to make me sitit here and think,
at some point this year we're gonna have to go
through Zach Wilson. We're gonna have to have Zach Wilson.
It's happening, not no if that happens, Frostburg. What are
you gonna do keep my car?
Speaker 3 (08:25):
No?
Speaker 1 (08:25):
No, no, this is like I'm gonna take all the
tires off your car and that's it. Wow, and I'm
gonna have a good thing. I know how to call
and hold the tire tire dot Comcause you do not
go to Frostburg's house. No, that's the one place you
set a brand new You not go there for a while.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
You wait.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm telling them
they can't go there. Kay. They go to anybody's house. No,
not to yours. They're not going to you.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
You can't go ten thousand installers. I mean, but they'll
come shot to you.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
No, not go not if I call, Hey, I talked
to those guys. I talked to those guys a couple
of times. If that could tell him, hey, you don't
go to Frostburg's house. What you said about the Jets.
Oh yeah, you're right, Jason, right where. We're gonna let
him go with those.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
You're in Indianapolis, buddy, they don't. They got they got
their own team. They're worried about it.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
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cult story today. Just if this doesn't tell you that
Jonathan Taylor is getting traded, nothing will. He leaves the
(09:27):
team to rehab and you can try to paint this
rosie saying, oh, the plan was always to have him leave,
which is what the Colts tried to put out there today.
But it doesn't matter. He is not coming back, and
he will be traded before the season begins. It's going
to happen. There's there's a way to handle a negotiation
(09:47):
and there's a way not to handle it. And yes,
we've heard a lot that that that Taylor's new agent
was really pushing for a new contract, making a lot
of noise about maybe that's gotten into Jonathan Taylor's head.
You know. The couple of people have said that, ah,
you know, he's a little bit different than he was
the beginning of the year. Well, yeah, because the running
backs had their big conference call and they said, hey, JT,
you're the next guy getting paid. Man, you got to
(10:08):
make sure that you standing up for all of us.
So now things are different, and Jim Mersey, who is
maybe it, wants to be in the running for worst
owner ever. I want to make sure all the bad owners.
I want to be at the top of that list now,
making sure that he's there. Because his comment when when
this first happened a week and a half ago, that
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if me and Jonathan die tomorrow the NFL moves on,
how do you come back to the cult if you're
Jonathan Taylor after that? You can't.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
I think I think it was more if if I
die and Taylor's out of the league, he didn't kill
Taylor off it.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
How do you come back after that? You can't. You've
been told, hey, we're not giving you money, and we
and not only that, we have belittled you. I belittled
you in a statement and you're still looking for money,
and now I have basically said we're not giving it
to you. How do you come back? You don't. So
he's gonna sit until they trade him, and it's gonna
(11:03):
get really deep into the preseason and the Colts are
gonna realize he's never gonna play for us again, and
they'll trade him. That's the only outcome. Now, Taylor's not
coming back to the team. He's not gonna show. They're
not gonna give him a band aid contract with some money. No,
Jim Ursay decided, I'm gonna make this combative and make
it adversarial at a time when he's got to read
the room and get that. Hey, you know, it's kind
(11:26):
of a weird time now for running backs, so a
little upset about things. They're not getting paid. Well, what's
the best thing to do here? Hey, you know, say
I understand their situation. Talk to Jonathan's agent. What's the
right thing to do? Because tempers are high. No, no, no,
I'm gonna as if I'm dying. He's gone. No one cares. Well,
really that makes me want to come back and play
for the Colts. He is going to sit until he
gets traded and he's not gonna be a cult and
(11:47):
they're gonna wait, They're gonna wait. And I don't know
if it's just as simple as hey, Josh Jacobs, will
you show up and play for us for a year? Great,
we'll take him Raiders, you take Jonathan Taylor. But he's
going to get dealt because I just there's just no
way back. For him. There's lots of ways back I
can see for players because a lot of its negotiation,
but Ursay has basically said, sorry, yeah, listen, we're talking
(12:07):
about death. Then out of the league and the NFL
doesn't care about you or me or anybody else. Yeah,
he's not coming back.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Well I unfortunately, you know, while it's it's ham handed
and silly in terms of optic public relations, et cetera,
or say, ain't wrong here. God's done a lot of
crazy things. He's had an ownership tenure that is mired
with a lot of well, let's should we say highlights
and bullet points for the Wikipedia page, but for this one.
(12:38):
You got a guy on the final year of his
deal who played in eleven games last year, is still
dealing with the after effects of a surgery, and he's
gonna try to hold out and say we need more money.
That's a hard one, I mean, because like, what's if
you franchise him, it's it's ten to one. That's a
six million dollar raise. That's pretty good money, right, But
(12:59):
that's now, ye, right now, you're on the books for
four million dollars. Why should they renegotiate now when you're
coming off an injury and you're unavailable as of this moment,
your ankle is suddenly gonna feel better when you sign
a check to that level because this has been reported
all off season that he was having issues. And I
understand it's a difficult marketplace for the running backs, and
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Taylor has been instrumental to what this team is. And yes,
if we look at it objectively, with Anthony Richardson coming
in as your number one, always helps to have a good,
strong running game. Nobody disputes any of those things. However,
if her say you know, and management looks at it
and says, well, we're not re upping now, we got
(13:42):
to see what you do this year, how your ankle responds.
Who's to say that Jonathan Taylor hasn't already played his
best football. He's supposed to get him a thirty six
million dollar extension now or whatever that money would be.
I'm sorry, Like, I get it's a crass statement, but
he's not wrong.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
No, no, he's not. But how do you how do
you say that about your best player? Your best player?
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Also, to realize where you're at, it's contentious and you're
basically as a as a position group crying about a
CBA that you just ratified again two years ago. You no,
But there's a.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Way to do it. There's a way to say, hey, man,
I'm sorry, this is the case. We're gonna try to
work something out next year. Unfortunately this is it. And
then there's going in front of the media and saying, yeah,
if I died and you were gone, nobody would care. Now,
you don't do that to one of year. This is
a guy you want to perform on your team, and
you have told him nobody cares about you. No, how
do you go back and play there?
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Right?
Speaker 1 (14:34):
I mean, there's a there's a different way to handle
it without paying the guy. There's a way to say, listen,
let's do this. What if we did this, what if
we did this, We need you to come back. But
instead he decided to say no, I'm standing up for
everybody else that that doesn't think we should pay running backs,
and I'm going to make it combative with my star.
There's not another owner that would make it combative with
his best because Daniel Snyder's out of the league now,
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so there's not another owner who would make it combative
with his team's best play to the point where I'm
gonna insult you so you don't come back.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Look, well, I'm not gonna say Zach Barton is the Cowboys'
best player, but he would be up in the top
five right And he basically said, hey, Jerry Jones basically
told him to beat it. I need money for this guy,
that guy, and the other guy. So we've seen it
done twice this offseason.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Get ready, Hey, make your phone calls, make you if
you want Jonathan Taylor, make your phone calls. You get him,
You can get him.
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Speaker 3 (15:54):
Man.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
They're showing him at Jets practice right now. The beginning
of Hard Knocks. So far, hard has been basically everything
Aaron Rodgers has done since signing with the Jets. Which
that's television, man, that's television. Everything he's done, look at him.
Look at Aaron rodd Every pass he's thrown, he's throwing
the ball all the way, you know, fifty yards downfield
(16:16):
into a basket.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Look at it.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
It's everything. That's fantastic.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
And then he couldn't complete a pass because he was
afraid to go at Sauce Gardner.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Oh, that's just for the cameras.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
That's just Sauce Gardner own and Garrett Wilson.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
That's fun time.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
And again that's fine. The voice of God shows up
and he's like a little kid. Now, here's good.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Now, here's the thing. Now, I'm gonna ask this question
here because this is a question. So this was filmed
now because live Schreiber shows up via helicopter. Yeah, okay, Now,
this was filmed a couple of weeks ago, and I'm
sure they did a little bit before the arrival, before
the beginning of camp. The strike was still going on,
and Live Schreiber is featured on this. So this was
(16:54):
shot and he's on the air while this is going on.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Is an exempted production.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
I I do you know, the fact that it's a
reality show. Maybe the rules are different, but I'm pretty
sure the strike was happening while Live Schreiber was. I
don't know if he got special I mean maybe he
called it, Hey, dude, this is the Jets, and they said, oh, yes,
the Jets go ahead. One go, go go. It's the
Jets go ahead. But like they show him showing up
in a helicopter, here's Live Schreiber and everything. I mean,
(17:24):
he's technically he gets paid for this, right because he's
the narrator of Hard Knocks and he's working. I mean,
it's it's it's a little weird right now, is a
little weird.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Well, I keep wondering about exemptions. There's been a lot
of talk back and forth depending on on how a
production comes together independent contracts that are outside of the
usual standard union purview. So perhaps Hard Knocks is in
that he got an exemption because he's generally, uh, just
(17:55):
a voiceover guy. Is that a different union. I don't know,
like how much it's fragmented, but the strike began on
July fourteenth, so it would certainly be after that.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Yeah, yeah, so I mean I don't know, I mean, yes,
he's a voiceover guy, but he's on camera. Yeah, Cara
on camera?
Speaker 3 (18:19):
But is he acting? Is he just himself there?
Speaker 1 (18:22):
He Well, he's lived Schreiber. Yes, I mean He'sby's voice
of God, Voice of God, you know.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
But is he always acting? In this case, it was
I'm just a big fan of yours. Yeah, I'm a
big fan of yours. I love all your movies. You
had Mkkole Hardman earlier talking about Aaron Rodgers going I've
been watching you since I was seven, so you ain't
getting any ball thrown your way. But for Schreiber, yeah,
I mean, I guess it becomes one of those debatable
points of contention because we've certainly seen a lot of
(18:49):
back and forth with with the actors calling out others
for taking roles and continuing production. I mean, I know
that Brad Pitt movie that he was he was working on,
they went a few extra days before they finally shut
down because of the backlash. Right, he's doing that F
one deal and they were renting out a track and
(19:11):
had all these different production elements and they finally like,
all right, we're on hiatus for several months. That's it.
Because his reputation as a the good union guy and
representative of actors got called into question. I wonder if
shilling for the Jets will do the same thing to
live sets.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
I heard it he got the pass because it's charity.
Oh no, very nicely. You're funny, you're funny. No, because
remember they did that for what was a haunted mansion.
Because they did they were gonna have the red carpet premiere,
but it was after the strike, so instead they got
people who played the characters at the Haunted Mansion at
Disneyland to come and do the red carpet for it, which, okay,
(19:52):
that's cool. You had performers come do it. It's just
a weird thing. I mean, the strike is a really
big deal. And suddenly here's liv Schreiber's showing up and
he's they show him walking on the practice field. It's
like one of those scenes in the movies when when
when the guy is walking in slow motion and he
just takes a lighter and throws it behind him and
blows something up. Yet like that was kind of the
shot of Lipschreiber.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
The line was pretty funny. He goes, well, I planned
to drive, but they thought the helicopter would look better.
I wish i'd iron my shirt.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
They just showed message Man and Aaron Rodgers get out
of a cloudy van and stop stop.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
With that, Aaron.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
I mean we saw Curtis Martin, the guy you tried
to take his end.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Yeah, this is so awesome. This is just something.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Takes barbar Jason Garrett. And then it got to method
Man and then he was addressing the team.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Yeah, well you know, you let method Man address the
team if he needs to.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
It's next time stuff right there.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Let me let TJ. Let me tell you about all
the methods that the Jets should use to win games.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Here, DJ, you're just so giddy, you kidding.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
And now even when I have to sew Zach Wilson
on TV, I'm like, yeah, it's fine. This doesn't count.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
Channeling his inner Johnny Lawrence though he's got a headband
going on.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
I just I have to watch Zach wilt That's fine.
But there's another big deal in the NFL today, And
I was really surprised to see it because I knew
what the first reaction was going to be. Ron rivera
uh head coach the Washington you currently the Commanders. They
could have a new name by tonight who knows uh
said that in an interview, some of the players are
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having difficulty with new offensive coord Eric Benemy's level of intensity,
and it's a thing. And some of the players have
talked to him about it and said, hey, do you
think you know coach could dial it back a bit.
And and for the most part, Ron Rivera had Eric B.
Enemy's back saying listen, you know he's gonna teach you
a lot of stuff and this is who he is.
(21:40):
And and Eric B. Enemy said, after practicing, I can't
change who I am. I'm intense. I'm going to get them.
This is this is how we're going to build a culture.
And to see all the players upset, I knew what
the first reaction was gonna be. See, this is why
the enemy is not a head coach, right, the players,
all the stuff we were told about him in Kansas City, Oh,
(22:00):
all the great stuff by Mahomes and Kelsey, how.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Great he is. I knew this was a lie.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
And he knew. This is why he's not a head coach.
No one wanted to hire him. Uh, okay, okay, you
know what, Let's just stop for a second. Let's look
at two groups here in this story, Let's look at
Eric the enemy, and let's look at the Washington commanders.
Let's look at a guy who's got multiple Super Bowl
rings as an offensive coordinator. And let's look at a
team that is trying to get over the hump of
eight wins in a season for the first time in
(22:26):
like six years. Okay, you have no winning culture in Washington.
As good a head coach as Ron Rivera is as
well as he is shepherd of this team through all
the ridiculous controversies they've had to go through. This is
not a winning franchise. And they have some talent. And
you know what, I'll tell you this, there's times where,
you know what, players need a kick in the ass. Everybody,
(22:47):
every one of us, at some point needs a kick
in the ass. Right, Sometimes he'd a hug, and sometimes
he'd a kick in the ass. And the time you
need a kick in the ass is when you don't
think you need one. I've seen that so many times
in my life. Hey, I don't need you to tell
me this right now. I don't need to tell me
this right No, just by your reaction, I could tell
that this is exactly when you need it, because there's
no time where someone's giving me a kick in the
(23:09):
ass or I said, you know I needed that. It's
always been no, I don't need that. Then I realized,
well after, you know, no, I kind of needed somebody
to tell me that for a minute here, that was
the right time to do it. That is absolutely the
time you need a kick in the ass. I'm gonna
hold you more responsible. And the fact that this is
how the players are responding to it tell me this
is exactly what Washington needs. You're trying to institute a
winning culture. You hired an OC that's gonna hopefully, hopefully
(23:32):
get the most out of your players. The one thing
that everybody says across the board about the enemy is
what he does all his individual work with all the players,
and now he gets them to play at a top level. Now,
could there be stuff communication, Yeah, certainly, there's a reason
why he's had a thousand interviews and it's not a
head coach in the NFL. But there's things he does right.
And if this guy comes in, I can't believe you're
(23:54):
gonna sit here and say, hey, this coach needs to
be so intense. Guys, You guys have stunk for a
long time. Now you guys have stunk. You're gonna be
the bottom of the NFC East again again. I think
you should listen to this guy coming in until he
proves that maybe this approach isn't working, because, like I said,
sometimes you'd a hug. Sometimes you need to kick in
the ass, and the commanders need to kick in the ass.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
Yeah, it's you know, the fief to building or you
get left to your own devices, you get lazy, go
into bad patterns. And certainly for the commanders, I mean
they've they've had a complete shakeup from the sale of
the squad all the way through Ron Rivera is also
I mean, it's gonna be a good cop, bad cop,
right old school guy and probably in a I've got
(24:38):
to perform really well or the enemies taking my job
kind of situation, or somebody else for that matter. So
you got that expectations for Sam Howell ap pretty high.
And if you look at that offense, they've got some
talent there. How much it translates to wins, I don't know,
but to your point, yeah, look, you can't always have
the warm, fuzzy guy that it's there for you, whether
(25:01):
it's a teacher, a boss, the guy that work or
woman that works next to you. Sometimes they need to
go to brass tacks and just tell this go back
to the your say conversation. It's not nice all the time,
but it's hitting a point. Just say, look, rubber hits
the road. And in this case, if the enemy's being
hard on guys in theory, what do you do? You
(25:21):
improve off that or you show that you don't belong
on the field by cowering right the old thing you
and I have talked about for a decade here on
Vox Sports Radio. If the guy is going to be
hampered affected and you're going to quote unquote lose him
by benching him, he's never your guy. He's not your
guy if he's going to wilt mentally, and b enemy's
(25:43):
trying to figure that out in the first week of camp.
Who are my guys that are ready to play? And
sometimes that requires some some different disciplinary measures, different drills
to be run and looking for that operational efficiency, because
that's really you look at what the chiefs were and
(26:03):
we could talk about the improvisation of Patrick Mahomes when
things broke down, but it's still a lot about timing,
getting the ball out and guys being in their space.
And so when you're going to Washington, which year after
year we've cited the organizational failures off the field, but
certainly on it, you've had very few bright spots, some
(26:23):
great players that have come through, and a couple of
them that are on the roster. Now that this is
why you brought him in to try to kick everybody
in the ass to get moving. And so if players
are complaining, that's a good thing because you know what,
make a common enemy, and he'll be the common enemy. Yeah,
because what are they gonna do, Go tank and say, well,
blake that guy will get him fired. Guess what, You'll
(26:45):
be out of the league.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Yeah. Look, it's that's another great part of it is that, hey,
if they're hating, if they're hating me, then they're loving
each other. And sometimes that's a great coach is a
way to get things done. Too. A lot of times
your best coaching has done when players don't really understand
that you're coing them. Oh now, I get now, I
see why I.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
Don't know, you know.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
And and that's and that's a crazy thing is that
I see I see it in youth sports all the time.
You know coaching. I know you see it with your
daughter and I see it. Coaching is that so many
people parents and and administrators and people that run leagues
and clubs think that putting out cones and ladders and
doing all these Hey, this drill that I looked up
(27:27):
on YouTube, that's coaching and that's all you need to do.
Coaching was No, that stuff is important. I get it,
that stuff is important that you want to be doing.
But sometimes you're coaching. Is what you need to do
mentally to a player to get them to play at
their highest level. That's coaching too. But a lot of
people don't see that. They want to just see a
practice that. Boy, this looks like a clinic. Man, it's
a clinic that I would pay a lot of money for. Oh,
(27:47):
this looks like a press sometimes yelling at a guy
and saying, hey, giving you a little bit of accountability,
telling you to hustle through a drill or something else.
That's coaching, and that and that makes you into being
a better player. It puts you on notice. It's all
about getting a player to play at the highest level
he can play at. And you don't think the commanders
ran you think they're all going to just say that's it,
I'm done, I'm not gonna do it. No, you got
(28:08):
to respond to this because are you trying to win
or not? And you bring in a guy with two
super Bowl rings in the last four years, so he's
a guy that at least for now you got to
listen to and say, all right, let's try it your way,
because there's a reason why they brought him in and
the other ways weren't working. So this is what we
kind of have to do.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
Yeah, I mean, you bring up the youth sports kind
of thing, because every once in a while there's the
the loud I'm screaming at you, just to scream at you.
But then there's the I gotta get your attention because
you're making the same mistake and people need to know
the difference. And if the kid wilts or the adult
in this case wilts because he's being called out in
front of the squad, in this case, it would be
(28:44):
for your jets. Let's just translate it. There in front
of the harsh cameras of Hard.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Knock, we're calling out Zach Wilson.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
Well, they just had the Zach Wilson you know, introduction
segment Okay, so I know you celebrate his entire catalog,
but just the idea that you you're either going to
rise to the occasion or guess what, there's another player ready.
And that's the way it has to be, right because
we watch, especially in the NFL, right college football, you
(29:12):
get some more more frequency of walkover games right over
the course of your twelve or thirteen game schedule. In
the NFL, average margin of victory is what three and
a half points, four and a half points something in
that vicinity. Most games decided by seven or fewer. So yeah,
it's the little things, the devil in the details that
(29:34):
makes between living and winning and losing living and dying rights.
As the Great Paccino taught us. And so for the Commanders,
it either works or it implodes because they're soft.
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while the conference realignment is still going on, as is
this episode of Hard Knocks, Uh, some statements today, I
(30:30):
just want to make you shake your head. Greg Sankee's
commissioner of the sec S is, Oh, it's sad. What's
happened to the PAC twelve? Come on, just stop. Everybody's
chasing the dollars. No one's sad about anything.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
Just behind the west Man is a whiteboard you can't
see because he's been working in silence. We've been talking
about this for a while. Me, you buyer. We've had
this conversation, like everybody else is doing stuff here in
the shadows. You got Sankey meeting with whomever, and you
know that there's a master plan yet to be executed.
(31:03):
It's like, wait for it, wait for it. That guy's
gonna do something. I just know it. And today it's like, oh,
it's so sad, it's so awful. Play the violins while
I talk.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
This is this is where everything is right now. If
you want something crazy to think about this for college football,
let me. Let me just say this next year is
when USC and UCLA joined the Big Ten, It's when
Oklahoma and Texas leave for the SEC. What are the
odds that they are going to leave and join those
(31:33):
conferences in a year? And I don't mean are they
going to change their minds and go back It's not happening.
But are they ever really going to play in the
Big in the Big Ten and and and the UH
and in the the SEC. Or is something else going
to happen in the next three hundred and sixty five
days that changes it? Because that's the thing about college football.
It changes constantly because there's no leadership, there's no rudder,
(31:56):
there's this we're chasing the money. And here's a phone
call between a couple of conference come and here's a
phone call with a couple of school presidents and an
athletic director, and things change. I mean, I'll tell you,
if I wanted to make money, I would put a
long shot bet USC and UCLA never play a Big
Ten game. And the same thing we're going for Oklahoma
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and Texas leaving, something else will happen that will change things.
Because this is a whole bleeping year ahead of time.
This is a whole year ahead where we got time
for other schools and conference to think, well, if we
had a super conference, we can get even more money.
We can find our way out of this contract. To
get that contract, I really you want to do that.
You want to make a long shot bet that's where
(32:36):
I would go because something could have think about a year.
A year is forever in college football. It's forever.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
Yo. I dig the line you're laying down there. I
don't know that it happens at such a breakneck pace.
I think it might require, but I mean everything else
has just been knee jerk and reactionary or so. It's EAMs.
Right last Friday, it was supposed to be, hey, we're
ten minutes from this car, and then they told us
to beat it and we had to scrap it all.
And now there's only four of us and two of
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those teams are gonna leave, two going down.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
We were so close, and have we decided now let's
let's just bag the whole division one hundred years of playing. Yeah,
this is bag the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
It's like you sit down and you're gonna sign the
papers for a mortgage. You get to the fiftieth signature
and you know what, Nah, I'm just not feeling it anymore.
But you signed the first forty night, It's like, yeah,
without the fiftieth, it doesn't matter though, right, So yeah,
have a nice day, you know. It's that kind of situation.
So yeah, getting to the super conferences, I think it's
(33:37):
gonna take a little more. But you're right in that
you've got all these self interested conferences as they've always been.
And I believe, and maybe i'm the dissenting voice in
the madness, is I think that's the way it's gotta be.
I think that way it's always been. Now we get
down to where there's two, then yeah, there's just one
person to be the head of the table and bring
(34:00):
in the sharkterie for when they have to meet and
discuss things. But in this particular instance, everybody's self interested.
Everybody's got their territorial maps being set up, and it's
the battle for what's left right, the leftovers. That'll be
the third conference when this all shakes out. But it's
it's I think it's still a little further away. But
(34:23):
would it shock me if your prediction came true on
this one? No, Because everybody's trying to jostle for the
next bit, the next bag that they can get.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
USC and USA. I never play a big ten game.
Something else, something else, something else, something else, probably again.
A year is so long, it's absolutely forever in college football.
Ex It out about a Fresco, Mike and swolling down
The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Carmon.
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