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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:29):
Greetings, Welcome inside hour two of the Jason Smith Show
with my best friend Mike Harmon.

Speaker 3 (00:36):
Well, here we guys waiting for the well dressed Hope.
Come on, tight shirt. We're well dressed hobos or not?

Speaker 2 (00:41):
It's hard to hear you over that fan, Jason, we.

Speaker 3 (00:43):
Are or we're not?

Speaker 4 (00:45):
Is that a helicopter.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
The Choppa?

Speaker 1 (00:49):
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into college football. Look, watching the episode last night, it's
everything that I told you it was gonna wind up being.
When the Jets were announced, Aaron Rodgers is going to
take up all the oxygen in the room. Right, What
have I been telling you? He wants New York for

(01:28):
his brand. He's wanted this for his brand. He wants
Hard Knocks for his brand. Everything was fine, and congratulations
everybody who you heard that take today in a lot
of places, all of an era. Yeah, we told you
this is why Rogers chose New York. Right, it's no surprise.
And you knew he was going to be the big
star as soon as he walked out when he say hey,
The first thing he says is to the guys with

(01:49):
the cameras, Hey, am I good?

Speaker 3 (01:50):
You need to do anything like? My mic is good?
I look good? Everything?

Speaker 1 (01:52):
AKA, all right, I'll give you guys some good blank today.
I'll give you guys some good stuff today. Yeah, he's
going to take all this attention on and yes, part
of it is good because he's doing it for his teammates,
because he knows, hey, there's a lot of expectations, and
if I take this on my shoulders, because I have
pretty big shoulders, this will help the team. But it's
here for him. This is this is his brand. This

(02:12):
is me launching Aaron Rodgers. Whatever it's gonna be for
me for the next couple of years and then into retirement.
I'm going to be global. I'm gonna be winning super Bowls.
I'm going to be doing other things outside of sports.
I'm going to be listened to. And this is here.
I am here for my brand. And that was the
extension of what Hard Knocks Episode one was last night.

Speaker 5 (02:31):
Well, but we talked about it all from day one.
It was all about brand and all about image rehabilitation
of a guy who became a hated and polarizing figure
both as a wishy washy am I going to play,
am I not quarterback and stringing along his team and
talking well really about everything else outside of football that

(02:57):
became very polarizing in our COVID Agreed, disagree. It's it's
like we talked about with Megan Rapino and the US
women's national team. Didn't have to agree or disagree, you know,
whichever side drawn of anything. She had to say along
the process, it just became more about that than soccer
after a while, and with Aaron Rodgers it became the

(03:19):
same thing, you know, including not having the stones to
tell his coach to beat it when he's making an obvious,
foolish decision about bringing in field goal kickers and stuff.
Gotta be a leader, Rogers, gotta be a leader. That
was on you failures in the playoffs. But now he
goes to the Jets. He's the greatest tourist we've ever seen. Here,

(03:40):
he is on Broadway, here, he is at the Tonys, here,
he is everywhere. He's got a handshake for everybody, like
he's known him for years. Did they send each other videos?
All right, see if you can get this down by
by week one of training camp, so that'll look good
on hard knocks. Although the best thing was him all
fanboying over. I mean, I don't think anybody you know

(04:03):
look live.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
Schreiber's had a decent career in Hollywood, right, he's Ray Donovan,
He's Sabertooth. But the way Aaron Rodgers, it's like George
Clooney showed up at Jets camp. Look at this man,
like Tom Cruise came in off the helicopter and he
actually jumped down from thirty feet without using any padding.

Speaker 3 (04:20):
He just leaped off the plane and landed.

Speaker 1 (04:22):
I'd be like, okay, yeah, Live Schreiber, Okay, yeah, I
get it, but boy, like, I don't think anybody is. Finally,
I don't think Live Schreiber's agents in Hollywood fawn over
him as much as Aaron Rodgers fawned over him last night.

Speaker 5 (04:34):
I would say we found out yesterday that Aaron Rodgers
is a one super fan of Hard Knocks, right, I mean,
look the acting career and the different roles you mentioned
Ray Donovan, obviously a huge show, and what I wouldn't
call it a cult favorite. I mean because man, it's

(04:57):
a recent one.

Speaker 3 (04:58):
Right.

Speaker 5 (04:58):
Normally when we say cold favorite, it means it's older
and then found an audience. No, it had an audience.
It was a great show. But the Hard Knocks thing
is clearly where Aaron Rodgers love was invested. Even though
he tried to talk about his acting career like no
that I it's all and then the last section over

(05:19):
the credits I think was about as good as he got.
Oh yeah, talking about surfing and the sharks and Piranha
and other things that would be up in Chico.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
And you want to know something crazy, you want to
something absolutely crazy. I'm glad you brought this up, because
I thought about it last night. I almost texted you.
I'm pretty sure that I played football against live Schreiber. Really,
I'm pretty sure, right because I played my career in
high school from eighty four to eighty eight at Curtis Right.

(05:49):
I went to Curtis High School, Staten Island. We played
Brooklyn Tech my freshman sophomore in junior year. Okay, he's
two years older than I am, and so I know
my and my last year of varsity. I am sure
I played again or my first year. I am sure
I played against him. He was if he was, he
played defensive back for Brooklyn Tech. I was defensive back

(06:10):
on Curtis. I'm pretty sure I must have played against
him in a game.

Speaker 4 (06:15):
That's awesome.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
We tied Brooklyn Tech zero zero my freshman year, and
then we played them in a controlled scrimmage. Then the
next year we beat them. We beat Brooklyn Tech like
six nothing. I mean, we were all defense, right, but
you definitely bet the under when when my team played
and then junior year, we had like a big controlled
scrimmage again, like a preseason game that didn't count, and

(06:37):
it was like fourteen twelve or something like that was
the score. So I'm pretty sure. I'm like, I'm pretty
sure I played in the game against LUs Schreiber.

Speaker 5 (06:44):
That is next level stuff. And you know, because whenever
we have these big moments and a guy takes center stage,
you got to start going back into their history. I
didn't realize his family history was his crazy as it was,
just to put it in its base terms, a lot

(07:04):
of stuff going on in and eventually ending up in
New York, starting out in San Francisco, but that that
would be really something if you could actually track that
back to verify that.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
I mean, these I mean this is the eighties. I
mean so the games are probably on microfiche, you know,
but I you know, like when you when you go
to the library.

Speaker 5 (07:22):
When we started going into oral histories of things, it
was a guy.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
Yeah, when he said yeah, it was I was, you
know Brooklyn, I'm like, oh my god, we played Brooklyn.
I still remember our first game against Brooklyn Tech. We
should have won. We had an early whistle, we re
covered a fumble, ranted in for a touchdown. The ref
blue the whistle. Oh man, we should have won that game. Uh,
not that I bet on it or anything. I just
remember it was my It was my first football game
was that game against Brooklyn Tech. So I got I
gotta look that up and see exactly when he graduate.
But like I, we overlapped and I maybe we played

(07:51):
against each other.

Speaker 4 (07:52):
Who knew this is next level stuff. You know what
we should do.

Speaker 5 (07:55):
We should put out a bounty producer. Let's get uh,
let's get try on the show. Let's go TV bounty.
This is what we did. This is what broadcast the radio.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
This is the version, not a bounty like in a
game where hey, a hard hit gets you whatever it is.

Speaker 3 (08:10):
Now, this is a team.

Speaker 4 (08:12):
Peyton alone, he and Greg Williams. That's old news.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
Oh man. I'm like, yeah, Brooklyn Tech, Yeah we beat
you guys. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
Uh, Twitter and out about a Fresco Mike it swollen
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I actually got into Brooklyn Tech. Brooklyn Tech was one
of those schools you take a test in eighth grade
for the three big schools in the city, which were Stuyvesant,
Brooklyn Tech and Bronx High School of Science. Everybody wanted
to get into Stuyvesant and go I didn't get into Stuyvesant,
but I got into Brooklyn Tech and Bronx School of Science.

Speaker 3 (08:42):
But I don't want to go there, oh, because.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
I didn't want to go all the way to Brooklyn
because Staten Island to Brooklyn, even though I mean, when
you're fourteen, you gotta get.

Speaker 3 (08:47):
It right over. That's nana.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
But it was fun playing him in school. They were
were blue and white every they're blue and white their
color scheme.

Speaker 4 (08:52):
Yeah, but you had public transportation that could get you anywhere.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
Yeah, but dude, I wasn't getting up at five o'clock
in the morning just to go to high school.

Speaker 3 (08:58):
Why do it? No?

Speaker 4 (08:59):
No, because I like, I like because you know who
did this guy?

Speaker 5 (09:04):
And you know what I used to do. I brought
the bus driver. I'm gonna pass out right here.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
And between you and I, who's the guy right now
that always says I don't get enough sleep?

Speaker 3 (09:11):
That's you. You might have been.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
You might have been a completely different person that you
just had a normal I am getting up at seven
o'clock going into school and having having a normal day.

Speaker 5 (09:19):
Who knows Look Teddy Chesney has a really great song
called I've Done a Lot of Things Different and it's
all about the things you do in your life and
how we all maybe change things just.

Speaker 4 (09:32):
A little bit if we could.

Speaker 5 (09:35):
I've got a laundry list longer than my arm.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
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(10:03):
every day just gets crazier and crazier. We got Pete
Futech coming up in a few minutes. College football insider
Washington State president has spoken out today saying, oh man,
with what's going on in the death of the Pac
twelve and now it looks like Stanford and Cal aren't
going to get into the acc Their grades weren't high
enough to never get well enough. On the Sat they

(10:23):
were a long shot couple of teams at best, and
now they're not getting in. It's just absolutely it's so
difficult to keep track of to go forward. And I
see the quote from the Washington State president today that
said everyone is truly looking out for themselves.

Speaker 3 (10:39):
Well you should have listened.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
What was it four years ago when when it looked
like things started getting out of control?

Speaker 3 (10:45):
What have we said?

Speaker 1 (10:46):
College football needs a commissioner. College football needs a commissioner
who's able to make the best decisions.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
For the sport going forward.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
Because this is an exercise and anarchy when you are
allowing any school to do whatever they want to. Hey,
we got permission from our conference. Yeah, why because it's
good for our conference. Great, we're gonna sign this television deal.
We're gonna leave this conference for this conference, doesn't matter
how long we've been there. We can make more money,
and we see that money in front of us. Let's
go do it. This is absolute anarchy and it's not

(11:17):
gonna stop. You think college This is a runaway train
and no one's throwing the brake on it. We're gonna
have a super conference at some point soon, maybe in
as much of a year when school's like Alabama and
Michigan and Ohio State. Go way, if we have our
own conference, we're gonna get all this cash. The rest
are going to keep trying to fight for relevancy. They'll
wind up being a new tiered system of college football playoffs.

(11:38):
Because you have the has and the have nots for
championships for bulls, Streaming rights for different conferences are gonna
wind up coming through for TV. It's never going to stop.
There's no end in sight for it, and eventually it's
gonna wind up hurting the sport.

Speaker 3 (11:52):
Now.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
It's hard to see it now because this is about
schools getting more money and being able to move forward.
But eventually you're gonna run out of places to go.
You're gonna run out of play Wait. Wait, we just
were making all this big money. We got to make
more money.

Speaker 3 (12:05):
Well, we're kind of out of ideas.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
And then you're gonna look back and go, wow, look
at this destruction we just wove all the way through
college football. I mean this it's an exercise in seeing
how anarchy works when there's nobody in charge of something.
Everybody's out for themselves. Look at where you are. You
have half the country is or or thirty percent of
the country. The teams are happy where they are. They're
getting paid, thirty other percent or trying frantically to try

(12:30):
to get paid and they don't know if they can
do it. And the other thirty five percent are saying,
we're done where there's no place for us to go.
We're absolutely screwed in all of this. And this is
what happens. Have you had a commissioner that could go
forward for things, Okay, what if we did this, what
if we you could still have conferences, move you wouldn't
have something like this. It wouldn't be a big free
for all. It would seem like there's a lot more order.

(12:51):
But when you don't have anarchy, this is where you are.

Speaker 5 (12:54):
Well, I think I'm in disagreement because in theory, that's
what the NCAA was supposed to be doing, and clearly
they don't know what they're doing, and they didn't know
how to do their job because they couldn't get everybody
to come to the table with all of their with
their hands on the table right not Hey, I'm texting
something else and I'm working another deal while I'm sitting

(13:15):
here and nodding my head looking at you and all
of you out there for your jobs, your home, lives, whatever.
You're all kind of chuckling, going, yeah, I might have
done that a couple of times. We appreciate you being
part of the extended family, by the way, but just
the idea that look, each conference, so long as there
are conferences, are going to be self interested.

Speaker 4 (13:36):
They always were.

Speaker 5 (13:38):
They just abided by some tenuous set of rules because
that's the way it had always been done. And then realizing,
wait a minute, these guys really have no power in
the end, now do they? Again, owing to the penalties
that have been handed out over the last couple of issues, Hey,

(13:58):
we're negotiating with horrible on a suspension. Well games he
gonna miss, I don't know all the directional schools.

Speaker 4 (14:05):
He'll be back for CA.

Speaker 5 (14:06):
Okay, So it really has a lot of weight to it,
that's what you're telling me, Tennessee. Eight million dollars, Fine,
give up some wins. Nobody cares about any of that
because you watch the games.

Speaker 3 (14:17):
Right.

Speaker 5 (14:17):
Anytime they go and take away one of those national titles,
that they take away all of the ancillary moneies and
sponsorships and raising of all of the advertising and ticket
prices for the years thereafter. Hell, no nobody comes back
and reclaims that money.

Speaker 4 (14:36):
So in the end, it's an exercise in futility.

Speaker 5 (14:39):
We're supposed to do something, so if we put it
on the letter head, it mattered. We've always had this, Jason,
it's just now the chickens have come home to roost.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
You just if you had an all powerful commissioner, if
you had somebody in there, then all of this doesn't
have you, you would still grow, right because look at
the National Football League, right, You've gotten an incredible growth
because you have a commissioner that while moral questions, you
wonder what the hell's going on, but there's no question
at all about what he's done business wise.

Speaker 4 (15:12):
Wow. But it's still one all after team.

Speaker 5 (15:14):
After that, Joe Namath won that Super Bowl and everything
came together.

Speaker 4 (15:19):
It's been one league. It's not separate, but this is.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
All thirty two teams.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
The Jaguars are just as happy as the Cowboys, right,
they figured that out. Same thing with the NBA. NBA
everybody's all making. I mean, do you feel if you
had someone looking out for one hundred percent of the
lee of the teams In college football? Everything would be
would be much better, much more controlled. Growth would be sustained,
and it wouldn't come in the case of let's just

(15:43):
grab what we can while we can, and then when
the dust settles, who knows what kind of damage we
have to repair. If you had a commissioner, things would
be a little bit different.

Speaker 5 (15:50):
Well, but at least with the NFL, it's all on
the same terms. Here's your salary cap, here's your collective
bargaining agreement, here's all of these things. Not all colleges
are created equal in terms of their programs, dollars, availability on,
geographic desirability, all of those things, academic prowess, secondary programs

(16:11):
beyond the revenue, sports, etc. So little apples and oranges.
But I get your point, like you at least have
someone that has to take the credit or blame for stuff,
because right now we just pointed everybody and say you
all suck.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
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Are we going to see realignment further? In college football?
Will we see the Pac twelve find a way to
survive now that maybe they're back to being the pack four?

Speaker 3 (17:00):
What happens next with Northwestern?

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we're now finding out that the ACC, which is looking
to expand, was also talking not just with cal and Stanford,

(19:49):
but potentially with SMU to try to add to the
conference right, to try to add to get there because
the ACC is trying to stay relevant. Right now, we
get the story Pete THEAMLVSPN reporting the Hey, it's a
long shot for Stanford and Cal because they don't really
don't bring a lot to the table.

Speaker 3 (20:04):
I understand that. I mean, I get that part of it.

Speaker 4 (20:06):
Well, what ain't the monetary juice right?

Speaker 5 (20:09):
Because it ain't about academics, Like once upon a time
we'd actually have that consideration of all right, we need
something to prop it up.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
Yeah, but dude, can you imagine what the All ACC
all academic team would look like with Stanford and col there,
Oh my goodness.

Speaker 3 (20:22):
It would be the entire team. It'd be the entire team.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
Stanford, Col, Stanford, Col, Stan Syracuse Syracuse serious SERI Standford.

Speaker 3 (20:28):
Cal, Stanford Cow. It'd be awesome, to be awesome.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
But this is what I mean when I say anarchy
is taken over in college football?

Speaker 3 (20:35):
Is it? Now?

Speaker 1 (20:36):
You have the ACC trying desperately to stay the fourth conference,
right because they're in danger of losing big because Florida
State is already unhappy.

Speaker 4 (20:47):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
You know if Florida State's unhappy and they leave Clemson
to Miami, aren't gonna stay, right, They're not gonna stay.
They'll go to the SEC. They'll go someplace else. They
won't stay. They'll look for bigger paydays. Somewhere else. That's
how it's gonna go down. So it's just now the
ACC is trying to stay relevant by saying, all right, well,
if we add teams, they can't get rid of us, right,
they got to keep us because at least we have

(21:09):
two pack twelve teams. Or here's a team coming in,
whether it's SMU or someone else. And it's just a
rampant way to try to stay relevant. And it's it's
I don't know how you keep up. I mean, I mean,
college football has been keeping so many balls in the
air for so long with realignment and nil and all
of this, and none of it's regulated, and it's where's
it going? I have no idea, I mean really, I

(21:30):
have no idea. How what are we going to be
saying talking about college football in the next five years.
The only thing I know for certain I can tell
you is the games will be broadcast somewhere and we'll
be watching them. Maybe you'll be paying for them, because
the games will all be on Netflix or on Hulu
because Hulu's just raised their prices today by three dollars
a month, So maybe the games will be there. I
don't know, but that's all I can tell you. If

(21:53):
you said, where's college football? In five years, I will say,
we're all watching college football, and we're going to be
complaining that there's not as many free games as there
should be, and you're paying for the vast majority of
whatever else you want. That's the only thing I can
tell you about. Everything else I can't tell you because
it just changes too much. And well, again, this is
what it means when it's anarchy, when there's no one

(22:13):
in charge of anything. This is how it goes. You
don't leave a bunch of kids at home alone on
a Friday night. Now you have sack to have some
kind of chaperone. You don't want kids jumping in the
pool with no clothes on, or you know, putting pizza
in the dryer. You don't want that, Not that I
ever did that, but you don't want that stuff happening.
Did someone making sure it's not going on?

Speaker 3 (22:29):
So there you go. But that's the only thing I
can tell you about college football.

Speaker 4 (22:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (22:33):
Look, the only thing that is constant in our lives
is change. I mean, it's the old adage and it's
a truism here, right, It's just a matter of is
it at a glacial pace or does it come and
punch you in the face as if it's a heavyweight
coming out of the corner at the opening bill. And
that's kind of where we're at the last couple of
years with college football. You mentioned nil, Well, it used

(22:56):
to be about amateurism and you had and you still
have all these coaches talking about ah, you know, and
think I start getting paid, I'm gonna quit. Well you didn't, Hi, Dabbo,
You're still there, so you know, put your money where
your mouth is in that case. But with all of this, yeah,
is it the easiest. Does the geography necessarily make sense? No,

(23:17):
But at this point you're just gonna have to suck
it up and enjoy what quote unquote college football becomes.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
Joining us now, I'm the hotline to break it all down.
Nobody better College Footballnews dot Com insider extraordinary. You can
file him on Twitter at Pete Futech, although at this
point he should trade he should change his Twitter avatar
name to Pete Palooza. Attended Lollapalooza last week, joined us
during Lollapalooza. For all the big changes, It's been a

(23:46):
much busier August than Pete futech has used to, so
he joined us basically nightly. Now for everything going on
with college football, Pete, what's happening?

Speaker 3 (23:53):
Buddy?

Speaker 7 (23:54):
Can I ask you this fundamental question up unto your
lead in here when it comes to everyone it's whining
about travel. Why do you care like like you're not
these guys. I mean, look, I get it the non
revenue sports might have a rough time with it, But
I don't care about non revenue sports.

Speaker 8 (24:12):
They shouldn't exist. This is in high school. But that's
another story.

Speaker 7 (24:17):
The foot the revenue producing sports, you know, football, basketball
and ever growing. You know, women's basketball and other sports
as well. They fight charter. You know, they don't stay
in you know the motel with the flashing oh that.

Speaker 8 (24:29):
Doesn't go on.

Speaker 7 (24:30):
They have it all right, And for the most part,
you're talking about a weekend here and there.

Speaker 8 (24:38):
Maybe there's one trip to.

Speaker 7 (24:40):
Rutgers that's a six hour flight, okay. Everything else is
maybe three to four hours on the west coast of
the Chicago Arey, depending on where you are, and certainly
acc with the west coast would be tough. But that's
not that big a deal. And it's actually kind of
the wrong way to look at it. The way to
think about this is these are businesses. These are corporate

(25:00):
The Big ten maybe even the ACC is going to
have its Pacific West Coast branch of their corporation. We
have the Midwest branch, you have the East Coast branch,
and now they're branching out to the.

Speaker 8 (25:13):
Other side of the country.

Speaker 7 (25:14):
And that way, it's just you increase the money.

Speaker 8 (25:17):
You can increase.

Speaker 7 (25:18):
The revenue obviously, you increase the exposure, you increase the markets,
and everything starts to look a whole lot there on
the bottom line.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
Pete, that's a lot of branches. Man, you got branches
all over the place. Yeah, branch.

Speaker 3 (25:31):
Branches everywhere.

Speaker 7 (25:33):
Well, divisions are going to be the new conferences like
before you know, now, oh, I'm a Big ten fan,
I'm gonna see that. God enough, it's going to be
I'm an ACC you know, West Coast fan or something
like that.

Speaker 8 (25:44):
It's going to be different how we.

Speaker 7 (25:45):
Look at this, uh, and it'll be all right. You know,
it's it's not what we're used to. But the sport's
just getting bigger and stronger and more you know out there.
It's it's going to be fine. It's just going to
be kind of bizarre for a little while, Pete, I.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
Said, the best I could do before you came on,
I said, if you said to me, what is college
football going to be in five years, the only thing
I could tell you, because the rest is too unpredictable,
is that all the games will be televised, and we'll
complain about the games that are not on free TV
and there's too many on stream.

Speaker 3 (26:16):
That's college football in five years here.

Speaker 5 (26:18):
Let me do it.

Speaker 8 (26:19):
Let me do you one better.

Speaker 7 (26:20):
You know it's going to be in five years Alabama,
Ohio State, Georgia, Michigan. And what it's going to be
ten years, OHII State, Alabama, Georgia, Michigan. Like it's okay.

Speaker 8 (26:31):
The big schools are.

Speaker 7 (26:32):
Still going to be rocket and roll and everyone's going
to keep on playing. Where this The one part about
all this expansion that's going to be a problem is
when the TV networks say, hey, look, we want more
conference games. Because you notice the SEC is going kicking
and screaming at the idea of a nine game schedule,
because I think I've told you talked about this, you

(26:53):
guys before in twenty twenty, when they played all conference
schedules four of fourteen Big Ten teams ended up with
a winning rock. Five of the fourteen SEC teams ended
up with the winning.

Speaker 8 (27:03):
Record when it was an all SEC schedule.

Speaker 7 (27:06):
If you're like Purdue or Arkansas and you don't want
to beat your head against the wall going four and
eight every season, you know, guys get fired then so
you still need those other outside games. So that's when
this is going to get kind of testy, is when
the networks say, hey, look, you want all this money. Great,
now you'll play each other every week.

Speaker 4 (27:26):
Yeah, I love that.

Speaker 5 (27:27):
Notre Dame's trying to force the issue from all reports
Pete of Hey, take all these guys in as a member.
Are you going to bring your football squad ours? Oh
hell no, no, no no, But take these guys, well.

Speaker 7 (27:40):
They don't need to. Look, they're gonna make Notre Dame
has always kind of been like, you know, we don't
we don't need all the money. We just want ours, right,
they're set.

Speaker 4 (27:50):
Up with perfectly.

Speaker 7 (27:52):
Yeah, sixty MILLI year, probably in the next couple of years.
I mean that's not the eighty million that's the Big Ten.

Speaker 8 (27:58):
But don't be fine. The whole they sales for Notre.

Speaker 7 (28:01):
Dame so yeah, but that is the one thing there
that if the ACC, you know, we just saw the
incompetence of the PAC twelve, I mean a we could
go right now in the PAC twelve looked like it
was about to keep it all together, and now it's
completely gone. The ACC has been kind of half smart
on this. If they can somehow get Stanford and Cal

(28:23):
before the Big ten and activates Octave for Operation Yoink
and takes them away, and somehow they get Notre Dame
to stick around, and all of a sudden the academic
institutions of the ACC are fantastic, then they can do
a whole lot more with what they got. And once again,
and I think the most underdiscussed aspect of this, which

(28:45):
for some reason no one wants to touch this, I
think the SEC screwed this up so badly because if
the ACC is able to figure out one that you
can't get to their granted rights deal that keeps their
teams until twenty thirty six, can't break that when two
actually makes Florida State and Clemson happy. If you're the SEC,

(29:06):
what do you what do you do now? I mean,
you're fine, but you're gonna be a distant distant number two.

Speaker 8 (29:12):
Business wise, the Big.

Speaker 7 (29:13):
Ten and the ACC is going to creep up fast,
even if those programs don't have the s Ottenfield talent,
I mean level of football, the novel of sports that
the SEC does.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
Now, wait a minute, Peter, but I'm thinking today's got
to be a good day for the PAC twelve because
they doubled their teams with Stanford and Cal likely not
going to the ACC. They went from the from the
Tupac to the pack floor again.

Speaker 3 (29:34):
Days like that.

Speaker 7 (29:35):
Yeah, so it's the line that you know, the Biggie twelve,
you know, they took over the Beach Park or whatever.
But yeah, so yeah, for the for the moment. So
then what do you do. You're not gonna go to
the American Athletic Conference because you're not you know, the
Mountain West makes geographic sense in a whole lot of ways.
I still think that they're just all kind of buying
time because if you're the Big ten, you gotta do it.

(29:57):
You've got to lock up that the two more schools
you don't really need, Oregon State and Washington State. But
again with my idea of like the being the branch
of the corporation, you already have LA, You've got the
Pacific Northwest with Seattle and Portland area. So what else
do you do? You get the San Francisco era the
area that kind of ties it all together. And now

(30:18):
you've got a real solid six team divisions in some
format that you don't have to make all these trips
to Rutgers and everything. You can have you know, five
Big ten games and not leave the Patific time zone.
So they're logistically, I think they're just taking a deep
breath after that last week, and I think they're going
to do it. It's an easy sell because the college

(30:39):
presidents are going to be like waiting mate here. So
Stafford's the number one ranked academic institution among all the
FBS schools. CAL is like ninth. We tied that together
with USC and UCLA, which are now becoming like Harvard
to try to get into. So all of a sudden,
they just added themselves some robust down academic institutions to
go along with Northwestern and Again and Wisconsin the rest

(31:01):
of the bunch, and that looks a whole lot more
palatable instead of just being like, hey, we're still on
everyone's college football teams. There's a real reason for this
to make it look like this that the conference as
a whole has raised, it has elevated its overall games.

Speaker 5 (31:15):
Speaking of Northwestern, you're right down road there. Boy, it's
just every day just seems like another twist in turn
of what the hell is going on there?

Speaker 7 (31:26):
Yeah, Northwestern versus the world and the line came up
from Vegas World minus fifty one in this game, so.

Speaker 8 (31:33):
Yeah, it's yeah, someone's got to lead there.

Speaker 7 (31:37):
I've been kind of on the side of Northwestern for
the most part because private youth institution, they don't have
to say anything. They can just kind of say, look,
we had an incident.

Speaker 8 (31:46):
We got rid of the problem.

Speaker 7 (31:48):
That we're going to go forward, and that's really all
you have to do.

Speaker 5 (31:50):
What you still have the assistant coaches not to mention
you got a bunch of players that if this stuff
actually happened, Pete, those are sexual assaults.

Speaker 8 (31:59):
Yeah, so what are we doing?

Speaker 7 (32:01):
Yeah? And that's where again, well, the Northwestern they they
did come out and and vehemently, you know, yell at
them and say, hey, look, this is not this is
bad we want for this, this is not reflect our
standards now. But you're right where there's got to be
some institutional control over this, and and you've got to
do something to stay Look everyone, we're trying to get

(32:23):
to you know, get out of this and get the
step b here.

Speaker 8 (32:26):
And it's Northwestern.

Speaker 7 (32:28):
It's not Ohio State, it's not Alabama. Like just just okay,
oh Northwestern versus the world, Yeah, big deal. What are
you gonna do, like win two games next year? Look,
just don't do this, Just stop trying to poke the bear.
If you're angry at the university, then you can transfer
somewhere else. If not, look at Northwestern University. It's one

(32:48):
of the greatest academic institutions in the world. You should
be there for more than just playing football, because certainly
you shouldn't be going to Northwestern just to play football.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
You can follow on Twitter at peat Future, that is,
at Pete feutech College Football News. You're one stop shopping
for everything college football. Pete as always buddy appreciated. I'm
sure we'll talk tomorrow and.

Speaker 3 (33:09):
The next night too. As things change and colleges keep
moving in, universities keep resettling.

Speaker 7 (33:15):
So just then I leave you with this, the Big
twelve is still open for taking their team, all right,
we'll talk about that another time.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
All right, very good, you're the best, great stuff from
Pete Feutech. Now we got some more great stuff on
the way from Nick Cope. He's got what's trending in
the wide world of sports, Nick, what do you got
for us?

Speaker 9 (33:37):
All right, thank you, Jason. We did have to put
a bow on the college sports stuff. Washington State's athletic
director Pat Chun spoke verbally today summarizing the current state
of the PAC twelve. Quote, the league has been grossly
mid mismanaged for over a decade. End quote, saying what
we all know, but but going on the record in
doing so. In baseball, we had a no hitter tonight

(33:59):
the Phillies, Mike Lorenzen, and he did it just eight
days after he was traded from the Tigers to Philly.
Fourth No No. In the big leagues this season, one
hundred and twenty four pitches, five strikeouts, four walks. Phillies
beat the Nationals seven to nothing. And as someone who
is currently wearing white vans, appreciate that Lorenzen did it
while wearing white vans, spikes looking very good. Other finals,

(34:23):
Astros Cruise passed the Orioles eight to two. Rangers had
their eight game winning streak snapped by the A's two
to nothing the final in Oakland, so Houston is now
two games back of Texas in the AL West. Other
games of note, Brewers walked off the Rockies seven to six,
and ten innings Mets over the Cubs.

Speaker 3 (34:39):
Four to three.

Speaker 9 (34:40):
Marlins came back to beat the Reds five to four,
so Milwaukee's able to expand its lead atop the NL
Central to two and a half games, White Sox nine
to two over the Yankees. Braves edged the Pirates sixty five,
Red Sox able to hold off the Royals four to three,
Tigers over the Twins nine to five. Few games currently
going on, Angels have taken a four to one one
lead on the Giants at the seventh inning stretch a

(35:03):
minor concern for a moment for sho hey O Taani.
He had his plant foot slight on him about half
a foot foard as he went through his motion. He
did stay in the game, was removed after completing the
sixth inning. In the seventh, Dodgers and Diamondbacks scoreless, and
also in the seventh in Seattle, Mariners and Padres tied

(35:24):
at a run apiece and the NFL commander's coach, Ron
Rivera walked back his comments about players being concerned of
Eric Beennemy's coaching style, said he did not want to
portray his players as soft or his offensive coordinator as
being too demanding. And finally, Fraeger running back Kareem Hunt
visited with the Colts on Wednesday, but he left without
reaching an agreement with Indianapolis. Let's go back to Jason

(35:47):
Smith and Mike Harmon.

Speaker 3 (35:48):
Thanks a Buch appreciated, my friend.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
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Speaker 3 (36:17):
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Speaker 1 (36:27):
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(36:48):
day today in the NFL. Hey, the Jets are upset
because they didn't look good against the Panthers during their
joint practice. Right in a two minute drill, the Jets
offense went three and out.

Speaker 3 (36:59):
Not happy.

Speaker 1 (36:59):
Not We've talked about Aaron Rodgers, We've talked about hard knocks.
On the flip side of it, Bryce Young was able
to lead the Panthers down against the jets number one
defense and get.

Speaker 3 (37:11):
A field goal.

Speaker 1 (37:12):
All right, Now, this is one day in practice, and okay,
this is what I But the Jets defense is really
bleeping good, all right, the one day that the Jets
defense is really really bleeping good.

Speaker 3 (37:24):
And I'm telling you it's not just about just this.
You know, Hey, they got a field goal today, But
everybody is sleeping on Bryce Young.

Speaker 1 (37:33):
Everybody is everybody got too caught up in his size
and what he's gonna look like. And here's here's the
picture of him in the in the huddle and everybody
is like like three feet taller than he is.

Speaker 3 (37:45):
Telling you, Bryce Young is it.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
And I told you last week he's going to be
a top fifteen quarterback in the NFL this year. I'm
a huge believer in Bryce Young. The Panthers win that
division and just seeing their success today when hey, we're
throwing you out there against a team that was a
top three defense last year and Bryce Young with a
bunch of nice weapons. Nobody great. But he's got a

(38:07):
bunch of nice weapons. I did a good job and
in putting players out there for him, nobody would go
crazy for Maybe Jonathan Mingo is good.

Speaker 3 (38:14):
You know, maybe Adam Feeling's got a lot left in
the tank. You got a little bit.

Speaker 5 (38:18):
But he'll be a good possession guy. Yeah right, he'll
move the chains. He'll be good in the red zone.
You're looking at Marshall's the guy that I hang a
star on. You look at big play potential and waiting
to see how much that comes together.

Speaker 3 (38:32):
But I'm telling you, Bryce Young is it.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
There's a reason why the guy was a number one
overall pick in the draft, and he's a number one pick,
and it's like everybody's in Anthony Richardson. If Anthony Richardson
was that good, he would have been the number one
overall pick. Maybe he turns out to be good someday,
but he's a little bit raw. Who knows how it's
gonna go. Bryce Young is it? And everybody is sleeping
on him. And I'm telling you he's gonna come in
and it's gonna be like a video game. He's gonna

(38:56):
throw short accurately. He's gonna throw deep accurately, because that's
what the guy does. He sees the field. All the
Panthers have to do is keep him up right. And
I don't know that it's gonna be one guy. You know,
you like Marshall and certainly he's got a lot of upside,
But I don't know that it's one guy. This might
be one of those where, boy, Bryce Young, can you
pick a guy?

Speaker 3 (39:14):
Right? Fantasy?

Speaker 1 (39:14):
Older is gonna go pick a guy, man, just pick
a guy. So I know to either play a guy
in fantasy or not play a guy. All right, I
can't have one guy of a great week one we go.
But I think that's what it's gonna see. You're gonna
see him spread the ball around. They're gonna throw the
football a ton watch out. Bryce Young is gonna have
some kind of year.

Speaker 4 (39:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (39:31):
I look at the way this team's constructed. And obviously
you've got a strong defense. We knew that coming. In
run game. You bring in Miles Sanders, you got him
and Chewba Hubbard pretty good. One two punched there. Thomas Brown,
he's gonna take over as OC. Remember sixteen teams in
your National Football League with new offensive coordinators this year,

(39:53):
so bring him in with the rookie DJ Chark is there.
You've got Hurst and Thomas as your tight ends. You
have myriad options, which is good, right pull the strings,
be able to check down. It's all about getting through
your progressions quickly. And we look in the division, the
Saints with its solid defense, the Buccaneers health has been

(40:17):
a concern. Will they be back to form? We we
wait and see, but the opportunity is certainly there. And
to your point on why he was chosen over Richardson, absolutely,
at some point you get past the hey, this guy
might have the the upside because he's taller and the
howitzer arm and all those things, like I need a

(40:38):
guy to play now, I don't. I don't have to,
like if I'm a head coach, right, if I'm a
head coach and I'm a new coordinatoror I don't have
time to wait for this guy to progress. And I
hope Richardson starts and he's ready to get right after
it with the Colts. But for the Panthers, I'm intrigued.
I think there's there's a lot to be said in

(40:58):
a division that's up progressed Ts.

Speaker 3 (41:01):
Twitter at how about a Fresco?

Speaker 1 (41:02):
Mike has swollen down the Jason Smith Show with my
best friend Mike Carmen. I mean, it's it's not a
great It's not that the Panthers are suddenly going to
be great, but someone's got to win the division.

Speaker 4 (41:11):
Yea, but how good are they?

Speaker 3 (41:16):
Right? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (41:17):
No, Atlanta's and and and Look. I like Desmond Ridder
a little bit more than most people do. But this
is the vision that's really bad. You're talking about. Kyle
Trass could be starting for one team.

Speaker 4 (41:25):
Why are you disrespecting him?

Speaker 5 (41:26):
You haven't seen him play, just because you want to
drag down Baker Mayfield while you're at it.

Speaker 1 (41:32):
If he was that good, if he was that good,
he wouldn't be fighting it out with Baker Mayfield.

Speaker 4 (41:37):
How dare say the.

Speaker 3 (41:37):
Same thing for Baker Mayfield?

Speaker 1 (41:38):
By the way, Uh so we have more NFL on
the way, but we had history in sports.

Speaker 3 (41:43):
That's coming up next right here, Jason and Mike fo Yeah.

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