August 11, 2023 • 42 mins
Jason Smith and Mike Harmon celebrate Kershaw Day. Jason tells you why he can be the Texans offensive coordinator this season. They explain why you shouldn’t believe for a second if the 49ers made the Super Bowl last year, they would've actually signed Philip Rivers to start. And Longtime NFL Insider Jason Cole joins the guys for all the BIG headlines from around the league.
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Speaker 1 (00:29):
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are inching closer to seven ten pm and if it
gets to seven eleven pm, Clayton Kershaw gonna be very
upset if they don't start this game. A big return
for the Dodgers tonight. It is a look. This is
what they've been hoping for, is why they they didn't
make any more moves to the deadline. We tried to
get a starting pitchure, didn't happen. We have guys we
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like coming back. Hopefully Kershaw's back, Hopefully Walker Bueller is back,
Hopefully Urius is good. All this hope hope, hope, and
it starts tonight.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Well, you gotta start by selling hope. I mean, that's
why you're inundated with all your jets, montages everywhere you
turn around anymore. So with the Dodgers. No, it's exciting.
Here's the problem, though, They've got Caleb Williams bobblehead night tonight.
Is that pregame ceremony gonna go too long? Or does
Clayton looking just point and say, get the hell off
my field.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
He just starts smashing bobble heads in the dugout with
a bat until they start the game. Just get him
out there, let him start the game, let him start,
let him batting practice.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Or did he pull out his driver. Looks like he's
got heads flying all over the place. You get a
Caleb Williams head, You get a Caleb He's just taking
off the tops of all these bobbleheads because he wants
to get to the mound. Exciting stuff for the Dodgers,
exciting stuff for baseball because when your superstars are in play,
we all win.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
And maybe this is the way the Dodgers are trying
to get Caleb Williams next year. You know they had
Japanese Heritage Night when they were playing against the Angels
and Otani. Here's a bobblehead night for Caleb Williams, half USC,
half Dodgers, and they're trying to get him. Maybe he's
going to pitch down the stretch for.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Them USC body Dodgers. Hat. I just wonder, was that
a bobblehead of someone else they made that looked close
enough they decided we're just throwing it on this one.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
No, I think that was I think that was Lincoln
Riley Collen saying, hey, listen, so with nil going on,
could we by anyway get a bobblehead night going on? Yeah,
but we got to put our logo on, and can
we split the logo? Yeah? All right, great, great, great,
we'll do that. Then that'll be fine. Let's do that. Hey,
this nil is what do we think half the gate? Sorry,
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I'm sorry, I'm sorry that listen. We'll we'll take care
of don't worry about it. This will be a thing.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
What's his personal appearance fee?
Speaker 1 (03:05):
We'll get it, We'll get him that. How's how's a
manager ever pulled the starter on his way out to bitch?
I don't know it could happen, could happen? What if
Caleb blame is he throwing out the first pitch tonight
for the Dodgers, threw it over a mountain? What what
if he comes in his Listen, I need a couple
of minutes, Like what do you do? You say? Listen?
I want to start this game at seven.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Eleven, seven to ten.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
I want to start at seven eleven thirty. This is
what I want.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
I think he knew the rules of engagement to day
as soon as Kershaw got announced, Like all right, that
pregame ceremony stuff. We're running out of tight clock. Now
there's a there's the the doomsday clock. Like you're in Oppenheim.
It's like tick tick tick, all right, let's go uh
Kershaw back on the mound. We celebrate his old catalog.
We've watched the I mean the whole almost the entirety
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of his career. You and running around here, and we've
seen the injuries We've seen the brilliance. Uh, and now
we get to see a battle. Dave robertson the after
sixth inning today, it's great.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Oh, they're given Urius an award. That's gonna push the
time back. They're gonna start at like seven thirteen. Kershaw's
not gonna be curious. Is about to get his ass one.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
As Kershaw comes out, padding the ball into his glove,
going hey, Julio, pitch, better get off my mound.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
We'll have more on the game coming up again to
Dodgers again. Twenty one games, over five hundred now here.
They are making their run. We've talked about them. This
is the best, most impressive regular season they've had in
the last decade, considering it is their worst team. But
we have back to back football games to get to tonight,
Mike Harmon, we have one in the books and we
have one coming up. It's not just the vapor trails
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of the Hall of Fame game and Zach Wilson's fifty
seven yard pass.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Yeah, we have c J.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Stroud and his welcome to the NFL moment to break
down here.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
And everybody has now put him in the trash bin.
He's done. He's done. Fit's over. You also have live
World Cup actions. I mean, we got a lot of
stuff going on here.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
There is uh first game of this week, the first
full week of NFL actually had a couple of games
tonight in the bigger slate tomorrow and Saturday. The Texans
beat the Patriots by the final of twenty to nine,
and we have big stuff for both of these teams. First,
let's check in how CJ. Stroud's NFL debut went, you
know what. Let's check in on his first drive in
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the NFL and see how he converts a third and.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Long to you know what, much much better. Yeah, I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Let's see Bud fumble. CJ. Strouds but fumble. I don't know, man,
I gotta think that maybe he Sanchez in that game
high I had a higher quarterback rating than seventeen. I'm
thinking he might have. I'm not sure, but he may have.
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
I think you look, if you're gonna fail, fail spectacularly.
That's what I always say. Everybody's throwing interceptions, then plenty
of them through the annals of history. So but hey,
for CJ. Stroud, we got to see some live we
did uting it we did this week. We're actually seeing
guys play, and we got.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
To see this throw out of another great potential Ohio
State quarterback pro.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Now Stroud hanging in throws it at an airside peck
Tojo and on the return for the Pats side steppang
ahead of his Mills takes a pet that's the middle,
try to turn the corner on the far side. It's
still to feet take until he takes the spill to
twenty four.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
It was such a bad pass, Davis Mills intercepted it.
That's how bad. Patriots Radio network on the call, CJ.
Stroud for the imitaluk was a bad pass. He didn't
see Mills jumping in front of the route. Played very
briefly in the game, two out of four for thirteen
yards and that interception. Now I know we have all
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there's Ohio State quarterbacks and and they don't well. First
of all, Justin Fields is having a pretty good start
to his NFL career. The guy ran for a thousand
yards last year. Yeah, I'm okay with Hishi was say
quarterback here.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Still uneven, but stuff to build on and obviously a
lot of yeah, obviously a lot of bets and a
lot of anticipation of the Bears with their new co
primary logo, to do great things this year.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Look, and I'm fine with that. But I also can
program the Texans offense. I can be the offensive coordinator.
I can boot everybody to the side because I know
exactly what they should do this season. I can I
could be the Texas off coordinator. We'll get to the pages.
I could be the Texans offensive coordinator. Look, I think
I have an idea of what's gonna happen. Obviously, Damian
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Pierce did not play tonight. Started I'd give the ball
to him thirty five times.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Again, Well, I figure the game plan. There's there's seventy
five of our play calling.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
I have a two pron game plan. That's it. Yes,
the playbook is only two pages. Here's the first one.
Give it to Damian Pierce, all right, give it to him.
Second one is throw it to Tank Dell. Throw it
to Tank Dell. On every play he looks so fast
out there, and on that interception you could see what
he did to the dB, just twisting him and turning him.
I'm this kid. The Texans brought him in and if
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you play fantasy, you kind of know his name a
little bit because he was going Layton Drafts and Dynasty leagues.
Tonight five catches for sixty five yards and a touchdown.
He is just that fast. And for a team that's
starting over basically from the ground up, you're gonna rely
on players to make plays. You need playmakers ken C. J.
Stroud make them. Ah, he's gonna need some time. What
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do you do? We hand the ball of Damian Pierce
and you can already tell that Tank Dell is a playmaker.
I mean just in his first game, the little bit
of action that we saw, he was dominant on the field.
You're seeing slot receivers now become the next great need
in the NFL. Forget about oh yeah, we got an
outside got No. Now suddenly it's oh hey, and our
third guy is really good insight. No, Now it's gonna
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be who can we line up inside to get the
mismatch on a cornerback to make him play the entire field.
And you're gonna start seeing teams say, wait a minute,
instead of that other guy on the outside, we can
have a get by guy. We have a number one receiver,
We have a get by guy we could put on
the other side. Of the field, who is in the
slot for us, who is playing there? And a guy
like Tank Dell, you could tell fit's perfectly into this offense.
I'd throw the ball to him on every play.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Already throwing up your ninja picks for our fantasy segments
to come. But yeah, Dell. Obviously the speed you've got
Robert Woods added to the to the mix. When he's healthy,
the guy can secure the football, So a good veteran option.
Nico Collins a guy hang a star on. He caught
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the first pass from Stroud tonight. But the other guy
who didn't play, Dalton Schultz. They brought him in. He's
going to be a big part of this right You
need young quarterbacks, need that safety valve, and there's a
big time target tight end target. So coming off a
miserable season and really just gross mismanagement, if we didn't
talk about the Commanders as much as we have and
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some of the oxygen that we've had to give to
Deshaun Watson and others, the way Houston's run things the
last couple of years would get a lot more attention.
But at least on the surface, this roster looks like
they'll be able to compete.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
The other thing in the flip side now are the Patriots,
and there was no mac Jones in the game tonight.
Bailly Zappy had the lion share of the plates and
he played okay, But the electric part of this game
was brought to us by Malie Cunningham. Throwing the football.
He was okay, three out of four for nineteen yards.
But you saw the display he put on running the football,
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those couple of big shake and bake moves he made
on the way to the end zone. He ran the
ball five times for thirty four yards. You can sit
here and say, well, yeah, okay, he's a young You know,
you talk about rookie quarterbacks coming in and Belichick and
what's god, you already know that Bill Belichick is not
a fan of Mac Jones. You already know they are
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at arms length with each other. And the fact that
mac Jones is a first round pick and showed promise
as a rookie is the only thing that hasn't at
the starting job. Right now, Bailey Zappy was brought back again,
a guy who back Jones was benched forward last year.
And now you have Malik Cunningham out of Louisville, who
is in the mix here potentially to come in and
maybe play a role, right, because he could be he
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could be that if he doesn't get the starting job,
he could be that Cordell Stewart type slash guy come
in and run some plays and everything else. Right. This
is this is not something that you can just dismiss
for the Patriots because you know Belichick wants to replace
Mac Jones. You know he's dying for someone to seize
this job. And if it's Malie, it could be Malie Cunningham,
could be Bailey Zappy, could be Malie Cunningham, doesn't matter.
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But this is this is a definitive thing that you
know is happening in New England this year where Belichick
is coaching for his life. We told you this. If
they don't get better this year, make the playoffs, this
is Belichick's gonna wind up being out, either he gets
to walk away or a joint statement. But if they
don't get better this year, the patience with him in
the post Tom Brady era is ended. And he's not
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gonna sit here and go down with Mac Jones as
his quarterback. If they're not playing well, hey, I'm gonna
make a change. He made it last year off of
Mac Jones coming off his rookie year. He could make
it again. It could be Zappy, It could be Malie Cunningham,
it could be Randall Cunningham, it could be Richie Cunningham,
it could be Caid Cunningham. And I'm running out of
Cunningham's but you get what he will go to anybody.
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This is not something you can dismiss and say, ah,
this is nice by the Patriots backups. No, this is
a battle for the soul of the season of the new.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Patriots already the battle for the soul coming out of
one preseason game against the Houston Texans. I love it. No,
Cunningham shows you some good things and obviously a much
different complexion to the offense than what you see, and
complications that you can add in wrinkles that aren't gonna
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be there for Mac Jones and Bailey Zappi. Everybody's all
American from last year, all right. So when we look
at this squad, a lot of money spent, retooled the
offense one again, a lot of new names and faces
in the receiving core. Bill O'Brien, what's he got, you know?
In his toolbox for this year? What can you do
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to make something happen? But certainly we've seen a lot
of the Mac Jones Bill Belichick drama as played out.
How much is real? How much is hyped up? Because
while we're looking for something to fire us up and
make the Patriots interesting, and let's face it, Bill Belichick
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is a guy that people have a liking problem with
in many ways, so looking for his demise is certainly
something that's gonna be cheered for. And I'm not accusing you,
as a Jets fan, of trying to do this year
because I'm in agreement with you. At some point, everything
hits its run. Like coaches that make a Super Bowl
make a World Series appearance. If they don't get back
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there and the you know, sustained excellence, you're gonna look
to make things change. Unless you're in Pittsburgh then you
get they don't change for anything. But most other organizations
don't operate that way. And I doubt Robert Kraft will
allow mediocrety to continue. So uh, certainly something to watch. Uh.
I can't wait to see it play out with the
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Ones and when they beat the Jets, it all changes.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Hey, look I'm telling you man, Look, you can. You
can sit here and try to get the Jets in
the middle of every single conversation possible, and it's not
going to change the fact that we're going to be
great and go to the super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Because it was terribly yesterday. You saw what the Panthers did.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
New material, You need new material. Almost broke the new material.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
I need new material. Jets, Jets, Jets, Mets, Mets. Pete yeah, yeah, yeah,
beat it.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Change your Bears logo, Just change change your logo. Worry
about that, worry about your logo changing.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
I'm I'm designing one that plays off the Cocaine Bear
because that's the kind of ferocity with which the Bears
will play and dominate this year. But no, I'm excited.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Man.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Well look it's night one of the preseason and it's
a beautiful thing.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Well we had one, we had the Jets, and now
this is the second game. This is ensure. That's the
biggest gay you kidding, Like fifty million people watch. It
was like the end of an American Idol season.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
People won. They were hoping to see Aaron Rodgers punching
something and then they got duped because he didn't.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
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Speaker 1 (15:28):
Right now, the Vikings lead the Seahawks ten to nothing
midway through the second quarter, and all Seahawks fans are saying, hey,
it's because Gino Smith didn't play again. Things I didn't
think we'd say a year ago. But let's continue on
a bit with this conversation we were having involving Kyle
Shanahan and Philip Rivers. This story that came out today
that Shanahan talked about what could potentially have happened last
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season if the Niners advanced the Super Bowl, that they
could have called Philip Rivers up and brought him out
of retirement to play in the Super They had made
contingency plans for the position of quarterback had they advanced
to the Super Bowl. They did not. Obviously, Rock Purty
hurting his elbow, he was able to come back in
the game against the Eagles and only handoff he couldn't throw.
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This is after Josh Johnson came in the game got
knocked out with a concussion. They did not have another
quarterback on the roster and it was never a competitive
game after the second quarter. Let's listen to Kyle Shanahan
tell us how this plan was something they were looking
into before I tell you how there's no way this
is actually really he was prepared to Yeah, now, and
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stuff we talked about throughout the whole year. You know,
we would have had to see how that was for
the Super Bowl. But that was the plan most of
the year. Okay, so so the plan most of the year.
What you're telling me is this is that with healthy quarterbacks,
because brock perty was healthy, got all the way to
the Nwarcy Championship game, right, and Josh Johnson's your backup.
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He's healthy, he was there. Jimmy Garoppolo could have been
on his way back. No, I'm gonna say all. Garoppolo
would have been healthy. But the potential was there for
him to play. He even said today I was doing well.
Could he have played? You know, he didn't know because
he never really got to the point to ramp things
up because the Niners got knocked out. Where was that
conversation you were telling me? A contingency plan was for
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the Super Bowl to bring Philip Rivers out of retirement
to be the quarterback while you are going in with
healthy quarterbacks, because you had to have said, we're making
this plan before anybody gets hurt. Which why are you
making that plan if everybody is healthy? Right? Like, Like,
I don't know where the timeline is. There was no time.
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It's not like the game stopped halfway through for a
week and then well what do we do? Do we bring
Philip Rodgers? No, you don't. You had Brock Purdy who
was terrific. You had Josh Johnson who was the backup.
If you were gonna sign Philip Rivers, you would have
brought him in, right, You would have brought him in.
You would you were you were gonna sign him to
be the third quarterback for the Super Dude, that's you
telling me is gonna happen. You were gonna sign him
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be the third quarterback for the Super Bowl when you
only dress two quarterbacks for the NFC Championship game. You
were going to bring Philip Rivers in and you were
going to sign only the third quarterback when you didn't
bring in three quarterbacks for the game. You're actually playing
that you need to have a third quarterback for I
don't get this story. I think the story is completely
made up as far as the Super Bowl goes. Do
I think that the team's reached out to Philip Rivers
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over the course of the season. Sure, is it a
bit of romanticizing right now saying hey, yeah, we could
have gotten filled we had talked to him about it.
I don't know if this is Kyle Shanahan in a
day is going to say, whoa, whoa, whoa, this story
was misrepresented. We had talked about the possibility as we
moved on, and he was ready to if we needed him.
I don't know, but there's going to be some kind
of clarification or it's going to be, hey, this was
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something we talked about during the season, not for the
Super Bowl. But I think there's going to be some
kind of statement tomorrow's clearing this all up, because the
way it's explained now, there's no way this conversation could
have actually happened because you had healthy quarterbacks, and when
you didn't have healthy quarterbacks, your season was over. So
I don't see where in the timeline that could have
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actually happened.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
Well, we can cut and print this for the best
of here is that it's the idea that you're now
not talking about this year's team, any concerns at quarterback,
the health of Purdy, Trey Lance, or anything else you're
relitigating last year putting Philip Rivers in a forty nine
Ers uniform twenty twenty two.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
You gotta go look back and see what was the
question before this? Hey, how is Trey looking at practice
so far?
Speaker 2 (19:30):
This?
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Well, there you go, dear, we would have had Philip Rivers.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
But it all plays together now. It's a classic Vegas
misdirect about what's going on in camp and where Purdy
is in all projections, He's going to be your opening
day guy, and blah blah blah, Trey Lance is over
year and Sam Darnold's over here. We're not talking about
that now, are we. We're talking about fanciful things of
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would Philip Rivers have been part of a Super Bowl team?
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Yes, And that's a great way to put it. Fanciful
because the way this story should have been reported right on,
I'm telling you, I think this was. You're gonna see
a different reaction to this tomorrow is that we had
talked to Philip throughout the seat. Like Kyle Shan's go wait, wait,
wait wait, everything got misconstrued here. We were talking to
Philip throughout the season, and there was some level of
interest if we needed him obviously Brock Perdy was healthy
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and Josh Johnson. If they didn't have either of those guys,
Hey maybe Philip, would you come in and play because
we just need a veteran quarterback that can run the offense.
He's smart, he would pick it up if something did
happen at some point to our quarterbacks. Philip Rivers may
have been interested. Now he's not going to come back
and be the third string quarterbacks that come sit on
the bench and carry a clipboard. So with that being
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the conversation, I fully believe that that conversation happened during
the season. I fully believe it did. And this is
probably a little bit of Kyle Shanahan saying, oh, had
we have one, we would have called Philip to say, hey,
do you want to come back and play in the
super Bowl because we don't have anybody like that. That's
the more accurate way to represent this story. I just
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don't think it was represented the way it's being reported
the way it actually was, because, like I said, there's
no timeline for it to happen. Now what now could
that what I just laid out absolutely, Hey, we talked
during the season, but now, hey, had we made it
on right, let let's say we let's say we go
on somehow and we're able to be win the game.
We don't have a quarterback, then we would have called
Philip Rivers to see if he wanted to come out
of retirement and play the Super Bowl for us. That
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I can believe, And that's why I guarantee you're going
to see something a little bit different tomorrow. Kyle Shannon
is gonna come to practice and say, you know, just
before we start, just a couple of quick things. Look,
I don't like what the Jets are doing with hard knocks.
Not a big fan. We're doing a better job and
the coaching staff did a year ago here. But I
want to get into this whole Philip Rivers thing, and
you're gonna see it stream streamline and explain a little
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bit better than how we had.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
It's oh point of clarification. Everybody was hurt. We needed
a quarterback. If by some miracle we were still run
that won that game by just handing the ball off
when our guy couldn't throw the ball any longer, then yes,
I guess you can go down. I don't. I don't
think you need to clarify it. People can run with
it however they want and get into Captain Philip coming
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out of you know, that conversion van and being ready
to play. I think it makes for just better theater.
If we would have gotten him to his Super Bowl
against Patrick Mahomes as a member of the forty nine
ers and he was signed after the NFC title game,
how great is that for the legend of Philip.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Yeah, no, that it would have been, and it would
have been awesome to talk about. And it would have
been where else are you gonna go? Because you have
two injured quarterbacks that camp play and here's Philip Rivers.
It would have been it. I mean it would I
would say that's probably the only story, and that would
have been then it would have been accurate. But but
this hole the way, like they had conversations he was
going to join the team. He would have joined the
team if he was going to do it, if they
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actually them.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
But that's just there. Right at that point, you had
decided to go with Josh Johnson as your backup, and
maybe that warrants some conversation of well, if you were
having the conversation with Philip, and he was Eddie, why
didn't you pull the trigger?
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Exactly right. That's why there's no way that conversation happened,
right right.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
You were convinced that Josh Johnson was your number two
and you kept it there. Uh. And so yeah, I
think it's it's all just a matter of semantics and timeline. Uh.
But certainly this s makes for better theater if it
was a Hey, we discussed this and this is the
plan if we'd won, Like, well, no, everybody got hurt,
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and now it's either Joe Montana comes out and see
whether what's left in his shoulder, or you go to
option B, which was Philip rivers in a Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
No no, no, dude, no, dude, no, no, do you're
missing You would have like like they do during the
season when a team is having kicking woes, they bring
they bring in guys for tryouts, whether or not they're
going to sign them. It's either hey, this is the
last chance for our kicker to get it going. Uh,
and then we make a trade, like they bring in guys. All,
look who's into kick tryout for the Cowboys this week?
It's so and so and Oh, by the way, you
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know the Cowboys are gonna have that this season like
you do. If you were the forty nine ers, like
Montana and Young and Garcia, and you bring them all
in and you have them all go through some kind
of tryout and you're broadcast it live on NFL network,
and whoever does the best they sign and bring him in.
And you have to be a former forty nine er
quarterback to be able to sign with the team and
go on to play in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
Giovanni Carmazzi, Sure, reddy, why not everybody makes fun of
me because I was drafted ahead of Brady. Well, here
you go, I got my chance.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
John Hill reporting for Dirny. Oh, that would have been
so fantastic. Oh man, even Nick Bullens could have been that.
Anybody that ever played a down at quarterback for the
forty nine ers since Montana is allowed to come.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
In, Kaepernick shows up. Oh I want my shot? Oh
my god?
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Could you imagine that would have been the best. Kaepernick
comes into play in.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
The supert my arm up against these guys. Let's go now.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
That would have Now, that would have made I think
the internet would have exploded. You break the NFL. It
absolutely exploded. Yeah, there would have been no other stories
for I me forget it.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Every announcement of nineteen eighty nine by Taylor Swift last night,
nothing not.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Why is she in a blue dress? Why did Colin
Kaeperdick play in the Super Bowl? Oh, you're right, I
don't care about the dress for Taylor Swift. That's nobody
cares anymore. No, exactly that. I mean, that would have
been ah wow, see that would have been the story.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
See what I did there? That was great and we
just escalated it.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
This is the first time, first time I ever wish
you were a GM of a team, because usually your
idea is like, you would run that team into the ground,
But this one, I really like, what are you talking about? Oh,
you'd run that team into the ground.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
You're out of your mind.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
You would you want to keep the current Bear's logo
with the sea on instead of going to the smiling
of the snarling bear, which is I.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Mean, they've always been co logos. I mean, so this
isn't new.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Nah, but I mean see that you got you gotta
be on the right side of the logo. You're not
on the right side of the logo.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
I'm all right with the logo. They've been marketing and
selling the hell out of that logo. It's not like
it's going to be much different.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Guys, imagine Steve Spurrier coming for the competition.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
That's true.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Or here you go, are you here to coach it
up here? Remember Heisman Trophy nineteen sick thy that's right,
Oh tim Ertay, all these guys. Oh I forgot about him.
Oh I forgot about that guy. Open call forty nine
or if you have you played, it would be in
the They don't have the newspaper anymore, but it would
be like, in the back of the newspaper, did you
play quarterback for the forty nine ors sometime between nineteen
eighty four and in twenty twenty three, then please show
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up at you know, at at at Levi Stadium here
on Tuesday for a workout and maybe you could be
the quarterback in the Super Bowl. God yeah, yeah, that
would have been Oh my goodness, that would have been great.
You could have had like a two or three day
audition process and turn it into like and turn it
into like a like a like a whole bachelor or
bachelorette kind of thing where some people stay after one
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day and then go back after the second.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Day and you get and you get a football. Yeah,
oh you get you get to keep it, you get
to keep throwing, and if you don't, they take your
jersey off you right there.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Yeah, but they did. They just cut it off of you.
All right, Sorry, let's cut the.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
Oh guy comes walking out with a giant, novelty sized
Paris scissors.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
Oh no, it's over that guy hopting Chris Winki. That
guy's cutting on tennis jersey right between the one and
the six. Oh that's so sad. I never thought.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
Steve Young's got a couple of reps left in him.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Jason a clipboard? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, there you go.
You either get a football or clipboard.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Oh, that would have been.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
Steve Stenstrom and Trent Dilfer in the mix.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Oh yeah, yep, you're right, you're absolutely right. Wow, Now
that would have.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
Been This is some next level stuff.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Oh boy, that would have been. See now I really
want to go back in time and have the Niners
win the game so we can have that dorsey. Oh Kenda, No,
he wouldn't. He's the he's an.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
OC now it doesn't matter. He's obligated to show up.
Oh okay, it's just like conscription. Oh you know, look,
you're obviously obligated to a rive for your military service.
Here you have to show up for forty nine ers tryouts.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Listen, I really want to get out of jury duty. No,
I still gonna show up. You got your juror badge,
put it on. If you get you, you give me
played for the Niners. You ain't getting out of this.
It's now or never for Elvis Kerbak TJ.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
And then you get J T O Sullivan.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
TJ. A lot of suspicious minds off for Elvis girback
coming back to try out. DJ.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
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Speaker 1 (28:22):
You can find him on Twitter at Jason Cole sixty two.
It is Jason Cole J call what's happening?
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Man?
Speaker 4 (28:28):
Go ax, dude, all ride. I was kind of like
hoping for that time to continue. I hadn't earned that
one for a while.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
There, I go, well, you're asking about Here's the thing
is that it would have made sense.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
I'm dancing around, see it would have really.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Good sense for ty Shirt to come back and play
the Dwight Yoakam version of Suspicious Minds, because we had
a hot take conversation a few minutes ago that the
Dwight Yoakam Suspicious Minds version is better than the Elvis
Suspicious mind version.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
Oh what about Finding Young Cannibals.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
No, come on, now, that's a that's all of that's
a hall of very good song. That's all.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
I'm gonna go a hall of fame on that one.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
I mean, I'm not going to dismiss Rolling Gift or anything,
but come on, no.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
You should not. You should never dismiss them in any way,
shape or form.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
The fact that I knew his name was Rolling Gift,
I had to be impressive, though.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
I was to throw that out there was really good.
What was the movie? Wiz Raylely Yoga. Jeff Daniels and
Meg Griffin were and they were on that soundtrack.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
Oh I read about that.
Speaker 4 (29:46):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, oh that was that movie was awesome
because Raleioda was on.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
Something Wild, going all the way back.
Speaker 4 (29:53):
To Something Wild. Yeah. Something Wild's great movie anyways, better
than any preseason yet that you'll ever watch in your life.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Good Fellas. That was the movie, all right. So Hey,
let's let's let's kick things off of the conversation.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
Melanie Griffin.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Yeah, you said, Meg Griffith, And I don't.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
Think I know. I just yeah, sorry Meg Ryan, Melanie Griffith,
you just put them two together. Never mind, I don't
want to go there.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
I started.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
I started thinking about Lois Griffin. Actually that's where I was, Well,
I'll have it. So anyway, Hey, look this story we've
been talking about for a little bit here before we
get into the night tonight. Uh, the Kyle Shanahan intimates
that had the Niners made it to the Super Bowl
last year, they would have called Philip Rivers to come
back and play the Super Bowl for them because they
were out of quarterbacks. I can't believe there was actually
a real conversation, But what do you think? Man?
Speaker 4 (30:43):
Oh? Absolutely, I believe that when are they going to
have that conversation? What were they going to do?
Speaker 1 (30:48):
When are they going to have that conversation? There was
no time to everybody was healthy until they had been able.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
No, No, they had been talking of Rivers earlier in
the years, right, and we started turning through quarterback.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Right, and.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
He didn't come back, right, You think he would have
like he would have come back for the super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
But they never talked to about it because there was
no opportunity because they had healthy quarterbacks until they were eliminated.
And when are they going to.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
Have that about. I think he was talking hypothetically if
they had gotten through that game, that they might have
called him. I think that that's I mean, I think
you're twisting this around to try and find some conspiracy
that doesn't really I'm going how it's been reported.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
I'm thinking it's going to change that exactly tomorrow, but
I'm going by how it's been reported.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
They talked about whether if you know, they if they
needed to get him, they would have gotten for the
super Bowl. That's all they're saying. Saying. Okay, maybe maybe
I'm misinterpreting this thing, but maybe maybe you're you know,
you're uh, deductive theory here is a far superior to mind.
(31:56):
But I think it was just like if we got
through the game and we needed a quarterback with and Collin.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Philip Rivers, I think you're to listen to rick athlete.
That's what's going through your head while you're trying to Probably.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
I probably because it's far more entertaining. So that's why. Well,
I mean we're arguing about something that never happened. Yeah,
like that's I mean, at least athlete, you know, saying
that song and that was brilliant and I was just
dancing around the kitchen. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
I think it was just great misdirection from any questions
they have about their quarterback position for twenty twenty three.
Speaker 4 (32:27):
Oh look, if they ain't Brock Purty, that's their challenge.
Let's just put it that way, because they go, you know,
one guy's a brain dead Heaver and the other guy
hasn't played football in four years basically, So there you go.
(32:48):
I hasn't played any real amount of football since twenty nineteen.
It was the last time he played football on a
regular basis in actual competitive games. See, this is not great.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
I told Harmon to go back and look and find
if the question proceeding Shanahan talking about Rivers was, hey,
how does Trey Lance look so far? You know, last year,
if we made to the Super Bowl, would have had
Philip Rivers. Wait, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, let's talk about
that instead.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
Oh that's awesome. Philip Rivers. Just anything to divert from
Trey Lance, anything that you know, what I feel bad
for Trey Lance because when I watch him and I've
only been out there one day, but this is a
guy like he would just wish there was some place
that young quarterbacks could go to get a bunch of
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throws in semi competitive situations, right, like some kind of
version of the World League or the Arena League where
guys could just play and see live action, because that's
what he needs. Like, this is a guy who he
might actually be a decent quarterback, but we will probably
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never find out because he's probably never going to get
on the field enough to develop. And it's a really
he's trapped in this situation. It's a really awful situation
for the forty nine ers and particularly for him.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
Let's move to the games tonight. We watched the Texans
and the Patriots, and Jason's lathered up as a Jets
fan that there's malcontentedness and discord in that Patriots offense.
And how quickly is mac Jones deposed.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
Supposed I didn't know that he was a king or
that he was a dictator.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
Of well he said.
Speaker 4 (34:35):
Right now, is he considered the Vladimir Putin of the Patriots?
Is that what we're talking about I.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
Just thought, I mean, he's then the facer thought.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
It was good boltanara where you can get voted out?
Or does he have to be like, you know, not,
you know, like does the Wagner group have to come
in and knock him out?
Speaker 3 (34:51):
Is that however you want to answer the question, does
not have to be a violent group?
Speaker 4 (34:56):
And is it the Wagner group? Would the Wagner group
be led by Wagner or Bobby Wagner?
Speaker 1 (35:01):
That's the question Jack Wagner, because that would be that
would be saying all I need and he can golf
a really good game. Hang the line right there. It
was my line for Jack Wagner. I had the all
I need you he could sing all I had.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
That was my line. I had the line it's like
the wold music in his head.
Speaker 4 (35:24):
Now what were we talking about? Something I asked you.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
About the Patriots and how much of a problem they
have And does Bill Belichick really hate Matt Jones.
Speaker 4 (35:35):
Well, they're not exactly buddies. I mean I think that
mac Jones hasn't developed, has never had the kind of
thick skin that Tom Brady has. Right, and Tom Brady
has some of you know, certainly early in his career,
for the first sixteen seventeen years of his career, that
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guy could take all the all the herbal abuse from
Belichick that Belichick and dish out, because that was Belichick's
way of establishing that no one is a sacred cow
on your team, right, Like, nobody's going to be protected
from criticism, because if I can rip Brady and Brady's
willing to go along with it, then you know I
(36:20):
can do this, you know, any other person on the team,
right Mac Jones, I don't, you know, like he's bristling
at it. Plus the results aren't there, so you have
there's a probably a whole lot more to Belichick's criticism
that actually rings true, and he wonders about because Mac
(36:40):
Jones is just really not that good. I mean, he's okay,
but he's he's clearly the fourth best quarterback in that division.
I mean that's like that's not even a question. And
he's dealing with a lot of these kind of retreads
that you know, like DeVante Parker that the Belichick keeps
(37:02):
throwing at him, and instead of like being really aggressive
and going and getting DeAndre Hopkins and really making a
play to get a receiver who can help that guy out.
He's saying, Oh, we're okay with the tight ends, and
you know, we're okay with these retreads that I keep
going out and getting. I mean, came keep the law
firm of Jacobe and Myers.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
It's about time.
Speaker 4 (37:24):
It's which one was better? Was that? Or was it
cal Worthington? In my dog spot? Which one was the
better at It was cal Worthington was the man? You
guys got to admit that they still play those ads.
I mean, he's probably been dead for thirty years, but
like at two o'clock in the morning on La Chandles,
(37:46):
will you can you find a cal Worthington add?
Speaker 3 (37:50):
I can find a lot of lawyers trying to get
me down. So cal is certainly original that way.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
I'm pretty sure you get Jason call NFL Insider our
guest here, the Jason smithsho with Mike Carmen. All Right,
So the biggest question I've been saving this for last
for you. After watching Hard Knocks the Jets chance at
winning the Super Bowl? What are they? Eighty percent? Now
eighty five percent? After watching the first episode.
Speaker 4 (38:14):
Oh, I was up. I was up at over ninety five.
I was hittering between ninety six and ninety eight, I
was thinking there was like this two percent chance that
the Bills might sneak by them. They're way beyond They're
way beyond cincinnat An. You know that Mahomes guy. He's
got nothing on Rogers and the Jets, especially now that
(38:36):
Rogers is the head coach here. Do you believe that
Rogers is how much do you think he's working on
changing the perception of who he really is?
Speaker 3 (38:51):
Ding Ding?
Speaker 4 (38:53):
Yeah? Like I mean how much? I mean, how much
work has he done to say? You know, everybody thought
it was such a jerk bag for the last like
five years. Maybe I ought to be nice now, maybe
I ought to try that. I mean, is that where
we're going here? Because I don't recognize this Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
No, that's the whole reason why he wanted New York.
If the Giants had the quarterback opening, he would have
wanted to be a Giant. He wanted the He wanted
New York for his brand because he's looking at what's
the next couple of years my life after football. I
want to be relevant and I want to be.
Speaker 4 (39:28):
One Ken Jennings. I'm replacing Ken Jennings and miam Bi
Aleck is gone, gone.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
Wow, that's a hot take, right there, Rogers, he's getting
rid of everybody.
Speaker 4 (39:40):
Hey, hey, let's just Ageah. He's like stalking. He's stalking
the Jeopardy stage. Can you imagine that rid of Yeah,
that's right, miam Biallack, Walter Reed Junior High School and
Hollywood High School. Baby, there you go. I just have
(40:00):
this picture in my mind that when he's done playing
in New York, he will be hanging around they sell
him in Burbank right, to be driving around Burbank screaming Jennings,
I'm coming for you something like that.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
Well, that would be a big departure from Rogers. Rogers, Rogers.
Speaker 4 (40:19):
That's why. That's what, that's what. That's what Semeni's doing
right now. Tomi is dressing up with the belt and
every time he's trying to get Rogers's attention for a question,
he goes for rich Semi for.
Speaker 3 (40:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
But he's going to get to cover a super Bowl
team this year, so I mean he's going to be happy.
Speaker 4 (40:45):
Well, he's gonna cover the super Bowl no matter what.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
He's covering his own team.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
He's covering his own team. He's going to be doing
every single We're going to replace you with him once
the Jets start with there eight nine and oh forget,
we're talking to Rich Simenia. You can't get I can
I can see you can't get idet you kidding me?
You can't get one direct message? And I'll get Samani.
Speaker 4 (41:11):
And I'll tell him what it's all about, and I'll
tell him what what a never mind?
Speaker 1 (41:15):
I want everybody know this. Jason Cole, he keeps dming
me saying to call him. I don't understand what this
is all about.
Speaker 4 (41:24):
Poor Rich. He's such a good guy. He is He
is a he is a fault of the earth kind
of guy. One of the nicest guys you'll ever run
into it. And I just keep like bringing him into
this mess about the Jets and Rogers. Just what kind
(41:45):
of friend of mine? Not a good one? Okay, you're
going to give you?
Speaker 1 (41:50):
Yeah, make sure you tell him that we're looking to
call him and talk to him, and he could replace you.
And I guarantee you the first thing he would say
is listen, Jason, I get while you're calling I like
all the cowboys her in the Hall of Fame. I
don't want to boot anybody out. Man, you got to
get somebody well.
Speaker 4 (42:03):
Then he definitely can't be it because you guys are
anti Cowboy too. I mean I need about yeah, like
they gotta go, every single one of them. Strawback is
gone this year. I mean, like, come on, Tony Dor
said Bob Lily. I mean, you know was a pun.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
What do you want Randy White and Harvey Martin both
of them out?
Speaker 3 (42:26):
I mean Drew Pearson, I mean that that statue hasn't
even set yet.
Speaker 4 (42:30):
Oh god, no, thank god, we got Yeah, I'm going
to take a blow torch to that thing.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
He's he's on Twitter at Jason Cole sifty two.
Speaker 3 (42:41):
That is that Jason Pearson.
Speaker 1 (42:47):
That's always funny. Appreciated man. We'll talk to you later
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are inching closer to seven ten pm and if it
gets to seven eleven pm, Clayton Kershaw gonna be very
upset if they don't start this game. A big return
for the Dodgers tonight. It is a look. This is
what they've been hoping for, is why they they didn't
make any more moves to the deadline. We tried to
get a starting pitchure, didn't happen. We have guys we
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like coming back. Hopefully Kershaw's back, Hopefully Walker Bueller is back,
Hopefully Urius is good. All this hope hope, hope, and
it starts tonight.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Well, you gotta start by selling hope. I mean, that's
why you're inundated with all your jets, montages everywhere you
turn around anymore. So with the Dodgers. No, it's exciting.
Here's the problem, though, They've got Caleb Williams bobblehead night tonight.
Is that pregame ceremony gonna go too long? Or does
Clayton looking just point and say, get the hell off
my field.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
He just starts smashing bobble heads in the dugout with
a bat until they start the game. Just get him
out there, let him start the game, let him start,
let him batting practice.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Or did he pull out his driver. Looks like he's
got heads flying all over the place. You get a
Caleb Williams head, You get a Caleb He's just taking
off the tops of all these bobbleheads because he wants
to get to the mound. Exciting stuff for the Dodgers,
exciting stuff for baseball because when your superstars are in play,
we all win.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
And maybe this is the way the Dodgers are trying
to get Caleb Williams next year. You know they had
Japanese Heritage Night when they were playing against the Angels
and Otani. Here's a bobblehead night for Caleb Williams, half USC,
half Dodgers, and they're trying to get him. Maybe he's
going to pitch down the stretch for.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Them USC body Dodgers. Hat. I just wonder, was that
a bobblehead of someone else they made that looked close
enough they decided we're just throwing it on this one.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
No, I think that was I think that was Lincoln
Riley Collen saying, hey, listen, so with nil going on,
could we by anyway get a bobblehead night going on? Yeah,
but we got to put our logo on, and can
we split the logo? Yeah? All right, great, great, great,
we'll do that. Then that'll be fine. Let's do that. Hey,
this nil is what do we think half the gate? Sorry,
(02:59):
I'm sorry, I'm sorry that listen. We'll we'll take care
of don't worry about it. This will be a thing.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
What's his personal appearance fee?
Speaker 1 (03:05):
We'll get it, We'll get him that. How's how's a
manager ever pulled the starter on his way out to bitch?
I don't know it could happen, could happen? What if
Caleb blame is he throwing out the first pitch tonight
for the Dodgers, threw it over a mountain? What what
if he comes in his Listen, I need a couple
of minutes, Like what do you do? You say? Listen?
I want to start this game at seven.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Eleven, seven to ten.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
I want to start at seven eleven thirty. This is
what I want.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
I think he knew the rules of engagement to day
as soon as Kershaw got announced, Like all right, that
pregame ceremony stuff. We're running out of tight clock. Now
there's a there's the the doomsday clock. Like you're in Oppenheim.
It's like tick tick tick, all right, let's go uh
Kershaw back on the mound. We celebrate his old catalog.
We've watched the I mean the whole almost the entirety
(03:50):
of his career. You and running around here, and we've
seen the injuries We've seen the brilliance. Uh, and now
we get to see a battle. Dave robertson the after
sixth inning today, it's great.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Oh, they're given Urius an award. That's gonna push the
time back. They're gonna start at like seven thirteen. Kershaw's
not gonna be curious. Is about to get his ass one.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
As Kershaw comes out, padding the ball into his glove,
going hey, Julio, pitch, better get off my mound.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
We'll have more on the game coming up again to
Dodgers again. Twenty one games, over five hundred now here.
They are making their run. We've talked about them. This
is the best, most impressive regular season they've had in
the last decade, considering it is their worst team. But
we have back to back football games to get to tonight,
Mike Harmon, we have one in the books and we
have one coming up. It's not just the vapor trails
(04:41):
of the Hall of Fame game and Zach Wilson's fifty
seven yard pass.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Yeah, we have c J.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Stroud and his welcome to the NFL moment to break
down here.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
And everybody has now put him in the trash bin.
He's done. He's done. Fit's over. You also have live
World Cup actions. I mean, we got a lot of
stuff going on here.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
There is uh first game of this week, the first
full week of NFL actually had a couple of games
tonight in the bigger slate tomorrow and Saturday. The Texans
beat the Patriots by the final of twenty to nine,
and we have big stuff for both of these teams. First,
let's check in how CJ. Stroud's NFL debut went, you
know what. Let's check in on his first drive in
(05:20):
the NFL and see how he converts a third and.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Long to you know what, much much better. Yeah, I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Let's see Bud fumble. CJ. Strouds but fumble. I don't know, man,
I gotta think that maybe he Sanchez in that game
high I had a higher quarterback rating than seventeen. I'm
thinking he might have. I'm not sure, but he may have.
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
I think you look, if you're gonna fail, fail spectacularly.
That's what I always say. Everybody's throwing interceptions, then plenty
of them through the annals of history. So but hey,
for CJ. Stroud, we got to see some live we
did uting it we did this week. We're actually seeing
guys play, and we got.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
To see this throw out of another great potential Ohio
State quarterback pro.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Now Stroud hanging in throws it at an airside peck
Tojo and on the return for the Pats side steppang
ahead of his Mills takes a pet that's the middle,
try to turn the corner on the far side. It's
still to feet take until he takes the spill to
twenty four.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
It was such a bad pass, Davis Mills intercepted it.
That's how bad. Patriots Radio network on the call, CJ.
Stroud for the imitaluk was a bad pass. He didn't
see Mills jumping in front of the route. Played very
briefly in the game, two out of four for thirteen
yards and that interception. Now I know we have all
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there's Ohio State quarterbacks and and they don't well. First
of all, Justin Fields is having a pretty good start
to his NFL career. The guy ran for a thousand
yards last year. Yeah, I'm okay with Hishi was say
quarterback here.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Still uneven, but stuff to build on and obviously a
lot of yeah, obviously a lot of bets and a
lot of anticipation of the Bears with their new co
primary logo, to do great things this year.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Look, and I'm fine with that. But I also can
program the Texans offense. I can be the offensive coordinator.
I can boot everybody to the side because I know
exactly what they should do this season. I can I
could be the Texas off coordinator. We'll get to the pages.
I could be the Texans offensive coordinator. Look, I think
I have an idea of what's gonna happen. Obviously, Damian
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Pierce did not play tonight. Started I'd give the ball
to him thirty five times.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Again, Well, I figure the game plan. There's there's seventy
five of our play calling.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
I have a two pron game plan. That's it. Yes,
the playbook is only two pages. Here's the first one.
Give it to Damian Pierce, all right, give it to him.
Second one is throw it to Tank Dell. Throw it
to Tank Dell. On every play he looks so fast
out there, and on that interception you could see what
he did to the dB, just twisting him and turning him.
I'm this kid. The Texans brought him in and if
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you play fantasy, you kind of know his name a
little bit because he was going Layton Drafts and Dynasty leagues.
Tonight five catches for sixty five yards and a touchdown.
He is just that fast. And for a team that's
starting over basically from the ground up, you're gonna rely
on players to make plays. You need playmakers ken C. J.
Stroud make them. Ah, he's gonna need some time. What
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do you do? We hand the ball of Damian Pierce
and you can already tell that Tank Dell is a playmaker.
I mean just in his first game, the little bit
of action that we saw, he was dominant on the field.
You're seeing slot receivers now become the next great need
in the NFL. Forget about oh yeah, we got an
outside got No. Now suddenly it's oh hey, and our
third guy is really good insight. No, Now it's gonna
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be who can we line up inside to get the
mismatch on a cornerback to make him play the entire field.
And you're gonna start seeing teams say, wait a minute,
instead of that other guy on the outside, we can
have a get by guy. We have a number one receiver,
We have a get by guy we could put on
the other side. Of the field, who is in the
slot for us, who is playing there? And a guy
like Tank Dell, you could tell fit's perfectly into this offense.
I'd throw the ball to him on every play.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Already throwing up your ninja picks for our fantasy segments
to come. But yeah, Dell. Obviously the speed you've got
Robert Woods added to the to the mix. When he's healthy,
the guy can secure the football, So a good veteran option.
Nico Collins a guy hang a star on. He caught
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the first pass from Stroud tonight. But the other guy
who didn't play, Dalton Schultz. They brought him in. He's
going to be a big part of this right You
need young quarterbacks, need that safety valve, and there's a
big time target tight end target. So coming off a
miserable season and really just gross mismanagement, if we didn't
talk about the Commanders as much as we have and
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some of the oxygen that we've had to give to
Deshaun Watson and others, the way Houston's run things the
last couple of years would get a lot more attention.
But at least on the surface, this roster looks like
they'll be able to compete.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
The other thing in the flip side now are the Patriots,
and there was no mac Jones in the game tonight.
Bailly Zappy had the lion share of the plates and
he played okay, But the electric part of this game
was brought to us by Malie Cunningham. Throwing the football.
He was okay, three out of four for nineteen yards.
But you saw the display he put on running the football,
(10:32):
those couple of big shake and bake moves he made
on the way to the end zone. He ran the
ball five times for thirty four yards. You can sit
here and say, well, yeah, okay, he's a young You know,
you talk about rookie quarterbacks coming in and Belichick and
what's god, you already know that Bill Belichick is not
a fan of Mac Jones. You already know they are
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at arms length with each other. And the fact that
mac Jones is a first round pick and showed promise
as a rookie is the only thing that hasn't at
the starting job. Right now, Bailey Zappy was brought back again,
a guy who back Jones was benched forward last year.
And now you have Malik Cunningham out of Louisville, who
is in the mix here potentially to come in and
maybe play a role, right, because he could be he
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could be that if he doesn't get the starting job,
he could be that Cordell Stewart type slash guy come
in and run some plays and everything else. Right. This
is this is not something that you can just dismiss
for the Patriots because you know Belichick wants to replace
Mac Jones. You know he's dying for someone to seize
this job. And if it's Malie, it could be Malie Cunningham,
could be Bailey Zappy, could be Malie Cunningham, doesn't matter.
(11:36):
But this is this is a definitive thing that you
know is happening in New England this year where Belichick
is coaching for his life. We told you this. If
they don't get better this year, make the playoffs, this
is Belichick's gonna wind up being out, either he gets
to walk away or a joint statement. But if they
don't get better this year, the patience with him in
the post Tom Brady era is ended. And he's not
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gonna sit here and go down with Mac Jones as
his quarterback. If they're not playing well, hey, I'm gonna
make a change. He made it last year off of
Mac Jones coming off his rookie year. He could make
it again. It could be Zappy, It could be Malie Cunningham,
it could be Randall Cunningham, it could be Richie Cunningham,
it could be Caid Cunningham. And I'm running out of
Cunningham's but you get what he will go to anybody.
(12:20):
This is not something you can dismiss and say, ah,
this is nice by the Patriots backups. No, this is
a battle for the soul of the season of the new.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Patriots already the battle for the soul coming out of
one preseason game against the Houston Texans. I love it. No,
Cunningham shows you some good things and obviously a much
different complexion to the offense than what you see, and
complications that you can add in wrinkles that aren't gonna
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be there for Mac Jones and Bailey Zappi. Everybody's all
American from last year, all right. So when we look
at this squad, a lot of money spent, retooled the
offense one again, a lot of new names and faces
in the receiving core. Bill O'Brien, what's he got, you know?
In his toolbox for this year? What can you do
(13:10):
to make something happen? But certainly we've seen a lot
of the Mac Jones Bill Belichick drama as played out.
How much is real? How much is hyped up? Because
while we're looking for something to fire us up and
make the Patriots interesting, and let's face it, Bill Belichick
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is a guy that people have a liking problem with
in many ways, so looking for his demise is certainly
something that's gonna be cheered for. And I'm not accusing you,
as a Jets fan, of trying to do this year
because I'm in agreement with you. At some point, everything
hits its run. Like coaches that make a Super Bowl
make a World Series appearance. If they don't get back
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there and the you know, sustained excellence, you're gonna look
to make things change. Unless you're in Pittsburgh then you
get they don't change for anything. But most other organizations
don't operate that way. And I doubt Robert Kraft will
allow mediocrety to continue. So uh, certainly something to watch. Uh.
I can't wait to see it play out with the
(14:13):
Ones and when they beat the Jets, it all changes.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Hey, look I'm telling you man, Look, you can. You
can sit here and try to get the Jets in
the middle of every single conversation possible, and it's not
going to change the fact that we're going to be
great and go to the super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Because it was terribly yesterday. You saw what the Panthers did.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
New material, You need new material. Almost broke the new material.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
I need new material. Jets, Jets, Jets, Mets, Mets. Pete yeah, yeah, yeah,
beat it.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Change your Bears logo, Just change change your logo. Worry
about that, worry about your logo changing.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
I'm I'm designing one that plays off the Cocaine Bear
because that's the kind of ferocity with which the Bears
will play and dominate this year. But no, I'm excited.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Man.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Well look it's night one of the preseason and it's
a beautiful thing.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Well we had one, we had the Jets, and now
this is the second game. This is ensure. That's the
biggest gay you kidding, Like fifty million people watch. It
was like the end of an American Idol season.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
People won. They were hoping to see Aaron Rodgers punching
something and then they got duped because he didn't.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Play be sure to catch live editions of The Jason
Smith Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern,
seven pm Pacific.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Right now, the Vikings lead the Seahawks ten to nothing
midway through the second quarter, and all Seahawks fans are saying, hey,
it's because Gino Smith didn't play again. Things I didn't
think we'd say a year ago. But let's continue on
a bit with this conversation we were having involving Kyle
Shanahan and Philip Rivers. This story that came out today
that Shanahan talked about what could potentially have happened last
(15:52):
season if the Niners advanced the Super Bowl, that they
could have called Philip Rivers up and brought him out
of retirement to play in the Super They had made
contingency plans for the position of quarterback had they advanced
to the Super Bowl. They did not. Obviously, Rock Purty
hurting his elbow, he was able to come back in
the game against the Eagles and only handoff he couldn't throw.
(16:14):
This is after Josh Johnson came in the game got
knocked out with a concussion. They did not have another
quarterback on the roster and it was never a competitive
game after the second quarter. Let's listen to Kyle Shanahan
tell us how this plan was something they were looking
into before I tell you how there's no way this
is actually really he was prepared to Yeah, now, and
(16:35):
stuff we talked about throughout the whole year. You know,
we would have had to see how that was for
the Super Bowl. But that was the plan most of
the year. Okay, so so the plan most of the year.
What you're telling me is this is that with healthy quarterbacks,
because brock perty was healthy, got all the way to
the Nwarcy Championship game, right, and Josh Johnson's your backup.
(16:56):
He's healthy, he was there. Jimmy Garoppolo could have been
on his way back. No, I'm gonna say all. Garoppolo
would have been healthy. But the potential was there for
him to play. He even said today I was doing well.
Could he have played? You know, he didn't know because
he never really got to the point to ramp things
up because the Niners got knocked out. Where was that
conversation you were telling me? A contingency plan was for
(17:17):
the Super Bowl to bring Philip Rivers out of retirement
to be the quarterback while you are going in with
healthy quarterbacks, because you had to have said, we're making
this plan before anybody gets hurt. Which why are you
making that plan if everybody is healthy? Right? Like, Like,
I don't know where the timeline is. There was no time.
(17:38):
It's not like the game stopped halfway through for a
week and then well what do we do? Do we bring
Philip Rodgers? No, you don't. You had Brock Purdy who
was terrific. You had Josh Johnson who was the backup.
If you were gonna sign Philip Rivers, you would have
brought him in, right, You would have brought him in.
You would you were you were gonna sign him to
be the third quarterback for the Super Dude, that's you
telling me is gonna happen. You were gonna sign him
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be the third quarterback for the Super Bowl when you
only dress two quarterbacks for the NFC Championship game. You
were going to bring Philip Rivers in and you were
going to sign only the third quarterback when you didn't
bring in three quarterbacks for the game. You're actually playing
that you need to have a third quarterback for I
don't get this story. I think the story is completely
made up as far as the Super Bowl goes. Do
I think that the team's reached out to Philip Rivers
(18:20):
over the course of the season. Sure, is it a
bit of romanticizing right now saying hey, yeah, we could
have gotten filled we had talked to him about it.
I don't know if this is Kyle Shanahan in a
day is going to say, whoa, whoa, whoa, this story
was misrepresented. We had talked about the possibility as we
moved on, and he was ready to if we needed him.
I don't know, but there's going to be some kind
of clarification or it's going to be, hey, this was
(18:43):
something we talked about during the season, not for the
Super Bowl. But I think there's going to be some
kind of statement tomorrow's clearing this all up, because the
way it's explained now, there's no way this conversation could
have actually happened because you had healthy quarterbacks, and when
you didn't have healthy quarterbacks, your season was over. So
I don't see where in the timeline that could have
(19:04):
actually happened.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
Well, we can cut and print this for the best
of here is that it's the idea that you're now
not talking about this year's team, any concerns at quarterback,
the health of Purdy, Trey Lance, or anything else you're
relitigating last year putting Philip Rivers in a forty nine
Ers uniform twenty twenty two.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
You gotta go look back and see what was the
question before this? Hey, how is Trey looking at practice
so far?
Speaker 2 (19:30):
This?
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Well, there you go, dear, we would have had Philip Rivers.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
But it all plays together now. It's a classic Vegas
misdirect about what's going on in camp and where Purdy
is in all projections, He's going to be your opening
day guy, and blah blah blah, Trey Lance is over
year and Sam Darnold's over here. We're not talking about
that now, are we. We're talking about fanciful things of
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would Philip Rivers have been part of a Super Bowl team?
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Yes, And that's a great way to put it. Fanciful
because the way this story should have been reported right on,
I'm telling you, I think this was. You're gonna see
a different reaction to this tomorrow is that we had
talked to Philip throughout the seat. Like Kyle Shan's go wait, wait,
wait wait, everything got misconstrued here. We were talking to
Philip throughout the season, and there was some level of
interest if we needed him obviously Brock Perdy was healthy
(20:21):
and Josh Johnson. If they didn't have either of those guys,
Hey maybe Philip, would you come in and play because
we just need a veteran quarterback that can run the offense.
He's smart, he would pick it up if something did
happen at some point to our quarterbacks. Philip Rivers may
have been interested. Now he's not going to come back
and be the third string quarterbacks that come sit on
the bench and carry a clipboard. So with that being
(20:42):
the conversation, I fully believe that that conversation happened during
the season. I fully believe it did. And this is
probably a little bit of Kyle Shanahan saying, oh, had
we have one, we would have called Philip to say, hey,
do you want to come back and play in the
super Bowl because we don't have anybody like that. That's
the more accurate way to represent this story. I just
(21:03):
don't think it was represented the way it's being reported
the way it actually was, because, like I said, there's
no timeline for it to happen. Now what now could
that what I just laid out absolutely, Hey, we talked
during the season, but now, hey, had we made it
on right, let let's say we let's say we go
on somehow and we're able to be win the game.
We don't have a quarterback, then we would have called
Philip Rivers to see if he wanted to come out
of retirement and play the Super Bowl for us. That
(21:26):
I can believe, And that's why I guarantee you're going
to see something a little bit different tomorrow. Kyle Shannon
is gonna come to practice and say, you know, just
before we start, just a couple of quick things. Look,
I don't like what the Jets are doing with hard knocks.
Not a big fan. We're doing a better job and
the coaching staff did a year ago here. But I
want to get into this whole Philip Rivers thing, and
you're gonna see it stream streamline and explain a little
(21:46):
bit better than how we had.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
It's oh point of clarification. Everybody was hurt. We needed
a quarterback. If by some miracle we were still run
that won that game by just handing the ball off
when our guy couldn't throw the ball any longer, then yes,
I guess you can go down. I don't. I don't
think you need to clarify it. People can run with
it however they want and get into Captain Philip coming
(22:09):
out of you know, that conversion van and being ready
to play. I think it makes for just better theater.
If we would have gotten him to his Super Bowl
against Patrick Mahomes as a member of the forty nine
ers and he was signed after the NFC title game,
how great is that for the legend of Philip.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Yeah, no, that it would have been, and it would
have been awesome to talk about. And it would have
been where else are you gonna go? Because you have
two injured quarterbacks that camp play and here's Philip Rivers.
It would have been it. I mean it would I
would say that's probably the only story, and that would
have been then it would have been accurate. But but
this hole the way, like they had conversations he was
going to join the team. He would have joined the
team if he was going to do it, if they
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actually them.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
But that's just there. Right at that point, you had
decided to go with Josh Johnson as your backup, and
maybe that warrants some conversation of well, if you were
having the conversation with Philip, and he was Eddie, why
didn't you pull the trigger?
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Exactly right. That's why there's no way that conversation happened,
right right.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
You were convinced that Josh Johnson was your number two
and you kept it there. Uh. And so yeah, I
think it's it's all just a matter of semantics and timeline. Uh.
But certainly this s makes for better theater if it
was a Hey, we discussed this and this is the
plan if we'd won, Like, well, no, everybody got hurt,
(23:27):
and now it's either Joe Montana comes out and see
whether what's left in his shoulder, or you go to
option B, which was Philip rivers in a Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
No no, no, dude, no, dude, no, no, do you're
missing You would have like like they do during the
season when a team is having kicking woes, they bring
they bring in guys for tryouts, whether or not they're
going to sign them. It's either hey, this is the
last chance for our kicker to get it going. Uh,
and then we make a trade, like they bring in guys. All,
look who's into kick tryout for the Cowboys this week?
It's so and so and Oh, by the way, you
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know the Cowboys are gonna have that this season like
you do. If you were the forty nine ers, like
Montana and Young and Garcia, and you bring them all
in and you have them all go through some kind
of tryout and you're broadcast it live on NFL network,
and whoever does the best they sign and bring him in.
And you have to be a former forty nine er
quarterback to be able to sign with the team and
go on to play in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
Giovanni Carmazzi, Sure, reddy, why not everybody makes fun of
me because I was drafted ahead of Brady. Well, here
you go, I got my chance.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
John Hill reporting for Dirny. Oh, that would have been
so fantastic. Oh man, even Nick Bullens could have been that.
Anybody that ever played a down at quarterback for the
forty nine ers since Montana is allowed to come.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
In, Kaepernick shows up. Oh I want my shot? Oh
my god?
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Could you imagine that would have been the best. Kaepernick
comes into play in.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
The supert my arm up against these guys. Let's go now.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
That would have Now, that would have made I think
the internet would have exploded. You break the NFL. It
absolutely exploded. Yeah, there would have been no other stories
for I me forget it.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Every announcement of nineteen eighty nine by Taylor Swift last night,
nothing not.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Why is she in a blue dress? Why did Colin
Kaeperdick play in the Super Bowl? Oh, you're right, I
don't care about the dress for Taylor Swift. That's nobody
cares anymore. No, exactly that. I mean, that would have
been ah wow, see that would have been the story.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
See what I did there? That was great and we
just escalated it.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
This is the first time, first time I ever wish
you were a GM of a team, because usually your
idea is like, you would run that team into the ground,
But this one, I really like, what are you talking about? Oh,
you'd run that team into the ground.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
You're out of your mind.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
You would you want to keep the current Bear's logo
with the sea on instead of going to the smiling
of the snarling bear, which is I.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Mean, they've always been co logos. I mean, so this
isn't new.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Nah, but I mean see that you got you gotta
be on the right side of the logo. You're not
on the right side of the logo.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
I'm all right with the logo. They've been marketing and
selling the hell out of that logo. It's not like
it's going to be much different.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Guys, imagine Steve Spurrier coming for the competition.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
That's true.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Or here you go, are you here to coach it
up here? Remember Heisman Trophy nineteen sick thy that's right,
Oh tim Ertay, all these guys. Oh I forgot about him.
Oh I forgot about that guy. Open call forty nine
or if you have you played, it would be in
the They don't have the newspaper anymore, but it would
be like, in the back of the newspaper, did you
play quarterback for the forty nine ors sometime between nineteen
eighty four and in twenty twenty three, then please show
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up at you know, at at at Levi Stadium here
on Tuesday for a workout and maybe you could be
the quarterback in the Super Bowl. God yeah, yeah, that
would have been Oh my goodness, that would have been great.
You could have had like a two or three day
audition process and turn it into like and turn it
into like a like a like a whole bachelor or
bachelorette kind of thing where some people stay after one
(26:42):
day and then go back after the second.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Day and you get and you get a football. Yeah,
oh you get you get to keep it, you get
to keep throwing, and if you don't, they take your
jersey off you right there.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Yeah, but they did. They just cut it off of you.
All right, Sorry, let's cut the.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
Oh guy comes walking out with a giant, novelty sized
Paris scissors.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
Oh no, it's over that guy hopting Chris Winki. That
guy's cutting on tennis jersey right between the one and
the six. Oh that's so sad. I never thought.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
Steve Young's got a couple of reps left in him.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Jason a clipboard? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, there you go.
You either get a football or clipboard.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Oh, that would have been.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
Steve Stenstrom and Trent Dilfer in the mix.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Oh yeah, yep, you're right, you're absolutely right. Wow, Now
that would have.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
Been This is some next level stuff.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Oh boy, that would have been. See now I really
want to go back in time and have the Niners
win the game so we can have that dorsey. Oh Kenda, No,
he wouldn't. He's the he's an.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
OC now it doesn't matter. He's obligated to show up.
Oh okay, it's just like conscription. Oh you know, look,
you're obviously obligated to a rive for your military service.
Here you have to show up for forty nine ers tryouts.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Listen, I really want to get out of jury duty. No,
I still gonna show up. You got your juror badge,
put it on. If you get you, you give me
played for the Niners. You ain't getting out of this.
It's now or never for Elvis Kerbak TJ.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
And then you get J T O Sullivan.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
TJ. A lot of suspicious minds off for Elvis girback
coming back to try out. DJ.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
You can find him on Twitter at Jason Cole sixty two.
It is Jason Cole J call what's happening?
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Man?
Speaker 4 (28:28):
Go ax, dude, all ride. I was kind of like
hoping for that time to continue. I hadn't earned that
one for a while.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
There, I go, well, you're asking about Here's the thing
is that it would have made sense.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
I'm dancing around, see it would have really.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Good sense for ty Shirt to come back and play
the Dwight Yoakam version of Suspicious Minds, because we had
a hot take conversation a few minutes ago that the
Dwight Yoakam Suspicious Minds version is better than the Elvis
Suspicious mind version.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
Oh what about Finding Young Cannibals.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
No, come on, now, that's a that's all of that's
a hall of very good song. That's all.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
I'm gonna go a hall of fame on that one.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
I mean, I'm not going to dismiss Rolling Gift or anything,
but come on, no.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
You should not. You should never dismiss them in any way,
shape or form.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
The fact that I knew his name was Rolling Gift,
I had to be impressive, though.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
I was to throw that out there was really good.
What was the movie? Wiz Raylely Yoga. Jeff Daniels and
Meg Griffin were and they were on that soundtrack.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
Oh I read about that.
Speaker 4 (29:46):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, oh that was that movie was awesome
because Raleioda was on.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
Something Wild, going all the way back.
Speaker 4 (29:53):
To Something Wild. Yeah. Something Wild's great movie anyways, better
than any preseason yet that you'll ever watch in your life.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Good Fellas. That was the movie, all right. So Hey,
let's let's let's kick things off of the conversation.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
Melanie Griffin.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Yeah, you said, Meg Griffith, And I don't.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
Think I know. I just yeah, sorry Meg Ryan, Melanie Griffith,
you just put them two together. Never mind, I don't
want to go there.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
I started.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
I started thinking about Lois Griffin. Actually that's where I was, Well,
I'll have it. So anyway, Hey, look this story we've
been talking about for a little bit here before we
get into the night tonight. Uh, the Kyle Shanahan intimates
that had the Niners made it to the Super Bowl
last year, they would have called Philip Rivers to come
back and play the Super Bowl for them because they
were out of quarterbacks. I can't believe there was actually
a real conversation, But what do you think? Man?
Speaker 4 (30:43):
Oh? Absolutely, I believe that when are they going to
have that conversation? What were they going to do?
Speaker 1 (30:48):
When are they going to have that conversation? There was
no time to everybody was healthy until they had been able.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
No, No, they had been talking of Rivers earlier in
the years, right, and we started turning through quarterback.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Right, and.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
He didn't come back, right, You think he would have
like he would have come back for the super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
But they never talked to about it because there was
no opportunity because they had healthy quarterbacks until they were eliminated.
And when are they going to.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
Have that about. I think he was talking hypothetically if
they had gotten through that game, that they might have
called him. I think that that's I mean, I think
you're twisting this around to try and find some conspiracy
that doesn't really I'm going how it's been reported.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
I'm thinking it's going to change that exactly tomorrow, but
I'm going by how it's been reported.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
They talked about whether if you know, they if they
needed to get him, they would have gotten for the
super Bowl. That's all they're saying. Saying. Okay, maybe maybe
I'm misinterpreting this thing, but maybe maybe you're you know,
you're uh, deductive theory here is a far superior to mind.
(31:56):
But I think it was just like if we got
through the game and we needed a quarterback with and Collin.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Philip Rivers, I think you're to listen to rick athlete.
That's what's going through your head while you're trying to Probably.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
I probably because it's far more entertaining. So that's why. Well,
I mean we're arguing about something that never happened. Yeah,
like that's I mean, at least athlete, you know, saying
that song and that was brilliant and I was just
dancing around the kitchen. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
I think it was just great misdirection from any questions
they have about their quarterback position for twenty twenty three.
Speaker 4 (32:27):
Oh look, if they ain't Brock Purty, that's their challenge.
Let's just put it that way, because they go, you know,
one guy's a brain dead Heaver and the other guy
hasn't played football in four years basically, So there you go.
(32:48):
I hasn't played any real amount of football since twenty nineteen.
It was the last time he played football on a
regular basis in actual competitive games. See, this is not great.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
I told Harmon to go back and look and find
if the question proceeding Shanahan talking about Rivers was, hey,
how does Trey Lance look so far? You know, last year,
if we made to the Super Bowl, would have had
Philip Rivers. Wait, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, let's talk about
that instead.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
Oh that's awesome. Philip Rivers. Just anything to divert from
Trey Lance, anything that you know, what I feel bad
for Trey Lance because when I watch him and I've
only been out there one day, but this is a
guy like he would just wish there was some place
that young quarterbacks could go to get a bunch of
(33:38):
throws in semi competitive situations, right, like some kind of
version of the World League or the Arena League where
guys could just play and see live action, because that's
what he needs. Like, this is a guy who he
might actually be a decent quarterback, but we will probably
(33:58):
never find out because he's probably never going to get
on the field enough to develop. And it's a really
he's trapped in this situation. It's a really awful situation
for the forty nine ers and particularly for him.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
Let's move to the games tonight. We watched the Texans
and the Patriots, and Jason's lathered up as a Jets
fan that there's malcontentedness and discord in that Patriots offense.
And how quickly is mac Jones deposed.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
Supposed I didn't know that he was a king or
that he was a dictator.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
Of well he said.
Speaker 4 (34:35):
Right now, is he considered the Vladimir Putin of the Patriots?
Is that what we're talking about I.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
Just thought, I mean, he's then the facer thought.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
It was good boltanara where you can get voted out?
Or does he have to be like, you know, not,
you know, like does the Wagner group have to come
in and knock him out?
Speaker 3 (34:51):
Is that however you want to answer the question, does
not have to be a violent group?
Speaker 4 (34:56):
And is it the Wagner group? Would the Wagner group
be led by Wagner or Bobby Wagner?
Speaker 1 (35:01):
That's the question Jack Wagner, because that would be that
would be saying all I need and he can golf
a really good game. Hang the line right there. It
was my line for Jack Wagner. I had the all
I need you he could sing all I had.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
That was my line. I had the line it's like
the wold music in his head.
Speaker 4 (35:24):
Now what were we talking about? Something I asked you.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
About the Patriots and how much of a problem they
have And does Bill Belichick really hate Matt Jones.
Speaker 4 (35:35):
Well, they're not exactly buddies. I mean I think that
mac Jones hasn't developed, has never had the kind of
thick skin that Tom Brady has. Right, and Tom Brady
has some of you know, certainly early in his career,
for the first sixteen seventeen years of his career, that
(35:56):
guy could take all the all the herbal abuse from
Belichick that Belichick and dish out, because that was Belichick's
way of establishing that no one is a sacred cow
on your team, right, Like, nobody's going to be protected
from criticism, because if I can rip Brady and Brady's
willing to go along with it, then you know I
(36:20):
can do this, you know, any other person on the team,
right Mac Jones, I don't, you know, like he's bristling
at it. Plus the results aren't there, so you have
there's a probably a whole lot more to Belichick's criticism
that actually rings true, and he wonders about because Mac
(36:40):
Jones is just really not that good. I mean, he's okay,
but he's he's clearly the fourth best quarterback in that division.
I mean that's like that's not even a question. And
he's dealing with a lot of these kind of retreads
that you know, like DeVante Parker that the Belichick keeps
(37:02):
throwing at him, and instead of like being really aggressive
and going and getting DeAndre Hopkins and really making a
play to get a receiver who can help that guy out.
He's saying, Oh, we're okay with the tight ends, and
you know, we're okay with these retreads that I keep
going out and getting. I mean, came keep the law
firm of Jacobe and Myers.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
It's about time.
Speaker 4 (37:24):
It's which one was better? Was that? Or was it
cal Worthington? In my dog spot? Which one was the
better at It was cal Worthington was the man? You
guys got to admit that they still play those ads.
I mean, he's probably been dead for thirty years, but
like at two o'clock in the morning on La Chandles,
(37:46):
will you can you find a cal Worthington add?
Speaker 3 (37:50):
I can find a lot of lawyers trying to get
me down. So cal is certainly original that way.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
I'm pretty sure you get Jason call NFL Insider our
guest here, the Jason smithsho with Mike Carmen. All Right,
So the biggest question I've been saving this for last
for you. After watching Hard Knocks the Jets chance at
winning the Super Bowl? What are they? Eighty percent? Now
eighty five percent? After watching the first episode.
Speaker 4 (38:14):
Oh, I was up. I was up at over ninety five.
I was hittering between ninety six and ninety eight, I
was thinking there was like this two percent chance that
the Bills might sneak by them. They're way beyond They're
way beyond cincinnat An. You know that Mahomes guy. He's
got nothing on Rogers and the Jets, especially now that
(38:36):
Rogers is the head coach here. Do you believe that
Rogers is how much do you think he's working on
changing the perception of who he really is?
Speaker 3 (38:51):
Ding Ding?
Speaker 4 (38:53):
Yeah? Like I mean how much? I mean, how much
work has he done to say? You know, everybody thought
it was such a jerk bag for the last like
five years. Maybe I ought to be nice now, maybe
I ought to try that. I mean, is that where
we're going here? Because I don't recognize this Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
No, that's the whole reason why he wanted New York.
If the Giants had the quarterback opening, he would have
wanted to be a Giant. He wanted the He wanted
New York for his brand because he's looking at what's
the next couple of years my life after football. I
want to be relevant and I want to be.
Speaker 4 (39:28):
One Ken Jennings. I'm replacing Ken Jennings and miam Bi
Aleck is gone, gone.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
Wow, that's a hot take, right there, Rogers, he's getting
rid of everybody.
Speaker 4 (39:40):
Hey, hey, let's just Ageah. He's like stalking. He's stalking
the Jeopardy stage. Can you imagine that rid of Yeah,
that's right, miam Biallack, Walter Reed Junior High School and
Hollywood High School. Baby, there you go. I just have
(40:00):
this picture in my mind that when he's done playing
in New York, he will be hanging around they sell
him in Burbank right, to be driving around Burbank screaming Jennings,
I'm coming for you something like that.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
Well, that would be a big departure from Rogers. Rogers, Rogers.
Speaker 4 (40:19):
That's why. That's what, that's what. That's what Semeni's doing
right now. Tomi is dressing up with the belt and
every time he's trying to get Rogers's attention for a question,
he goes for rich Semi for.
Speaker 3 (40:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
But he's going to get to cover a super Bowl
team this year, so I mean he's going to be happy.
Speaker 4 (40:45):
Well, he's gonna cover the super Bowl no matter what.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
He's covering his own team.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
He's covering his own team. He's going to be doing
every single We're going to replace you with him once
the Jets start with there eight nine and oh forget,
we're talking to Rich Simenia. You can't get I can
I can see you can't get idet you kidding me?
You can't get one direct message? And I'll get Samani.
Speaker 4 (41:11):
And I'll tell him what it's all about, and I'll
tell him what what a never mind?
Speaker 1 (41:15):
I want everybody know this. Jason Cole, he keeps dming
me saying to call him. I don't understand what this
is all about.
Speaker 4 (41:24):
Poor Rich. He's such a good guy. He is He
is a he is a fault of the earth kind
of guy. One of the nicest guys you'll ever run
into it. And I just keep like bringing him into
this mess about the Jets and Rogers. Just what kind
(41:45):
of friend of mine? Not a good one? Okay, you're
going to give you?
Speaker 1 (41:50):
Yeah, make sure you tell him that we're looking to
call him and talk to him, and he could replace you.
And I guarantee you the first thing he would say
is listen, Jason, I get while you're calling I like
all the cowboys her in the Hall of Fame. I
don't want to boot anybody out. Man, you got to
get somebody well.
Speaker 4 (42:03):
Then he definitely can't be it because you guys are
anti Cowboy too. I mean I need about yeah, like
they gotta go, every single one of them. Strawback is
gone this year. I mean, like, come on, Tony Dor
said Bob Lily. I mean, you know was a pun.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
What do you want Randy White and Harvey Martin both
of them out?
Speaker 3 (42:26):
I mean Drew Pearson, I mean that that statue hasn't
even set yet.
Speaker 4 (42:30):
Oh god, no, thank god, we got Yeah, I'm going
to take a blow torch to that thing.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
He's he's on Twitter at Jason Cole sifty two.
Speaker 3 (42:41):
That is that Jason Pearson.
Speaker 1 (42:47):
That's always funny. Appreciated man. We'll talk to you later
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