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in about twenty minutes. All the big news out of
the NFL. Right now, the Vikings lead the Seahawks ten
to nothing midway through the second quarter. In all Seahawks fans,
they're saying, Hey, it's because Gino Smith didn't play again.
Things I didn't think we'd say a year ago. But
let's continue on a bit with this conversation. We were having
involving Kyle Shanahan and Philip Rivers. This story that came
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out today that Shanahan talked about what could potentially have
happened last season if the Niners advanced the Super Bowl,
that they could have called Philip Rivers up and brought
him out of retirement to play in the Super Bowl.
They had made contingency plans for the position of quarterback
had they advanced to the Super Bowl. They did not. Obviously,
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Brock Purty hurting his elbow, he was able to come
back in the game against the Eagles, and only hand
off he couldn't throw. This is after Josh Johnson came
in the game got knocked out with a concussion. They
did not have another quarterback on the roster, and it
was never a competitive game after the second quarter. Let's
listen to Kyle Shanahan tell us how this plan was
something they were looking into before I tell you how
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there's no way this is actually real. He was prepared
to Yeah, now, and stuff we talked about throughout the
whole year.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
You know, we would have had to see how that
was for the Super Bowl, but I was the plan
most of the year.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Okay, So, so the plan most of the year. What
you're telling me is this is that with healthy quarterbacks,
because brock perty was healthy, got all the way to
the Henbracy Championship game, right, and Josh Johnson's your backup.
He's healthy, he was there. Jimmy Garoppolo could have been
on his way back. No, I'm not saying, oh, Garoppolo
would have been healthy, but the potential was there for
him to play. He even said today I was doing well.
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Could he have played? You know, he didn't know because
he never really got to the point to ramp things
up because the Niners got knocked out. Where was that
conversation you were telling me a contingency plan was for
the Super Bowl to bring Philip Rivers out of retirement
to be the quarterback while you are going in with
healthy quarterbacks, because you had to have said, we're making
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this plan before anybody gets hurt. Which why are you
making that plan if everybody is healthy? Right? Like, like,
I don't know where the timeline is. There was no time.
It's not like the game stopped halfway through for a
week and then well what do we do? Do we bring
Philip Rodgers? No, you don't. You had Brock Purdy, who
was terrific. You had Josh Johnson, who was the backup.
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If you were gonna sign Philip Rivers, you would have
brought him in. You would have brought him in. You
would you were gonna sign him to be the third
quarterback for the Super Dude, that's you're telling me is
gonna happen. You were gonna sign and be the third
quarterback for the Super Bowl when you only dress two
quarterbacks for the NFC Championship game. You were gonna bring
Philip Rivers in and you were gonna sign to be
the third quarterback when you didn't bring in three quarterbacks
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for the game. You're actually playing that you need to
have a third quarterback for I don't I don't get
this story. I think the story is completely made up
as far as the Super Bowl goes. Do I think
that that the team's reached out to Philip Rivers over
the course of the season. Sure? Is it a bit
of romanticizing right now saying hey, we yeah, we could
have gotten phillped we had talked him about it. I
don't know if this is Kyle Shanahan in a day
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is gonna say whoa, whoa, whoa? This story was misrepresented.
We had talked about the possibility as we moved on,
and he was ready to if we needed him. I
don't know, but there's gonna be some kind of clarification
or it's going to be Hey, this was something we
talked about during the season, not for the super Bowl.
But I think there's gonna be some kind of statement
tomorrow's clearing this all up because the way it's explained now,
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there's no way this conversation could have actually happened because
you had healthy quarterbacks, and when you didn't have healthy quarterbacks,
your season was over. So I don't see where in
the timeline that could have actually happened.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Well, we can cut and print this for the best
of here is that it's the idea that you're now
not talking about this year's team, any concerns at quarterback,
the health of par Trey Lance, or anything else.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
You're relitigating last year.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Wait, putting philip rivers in forty nine ers uniform twenty
twenty two.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
You gotta go look back and see was the question
before this? Hey, how is Trey looking at practice so far? This?
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Well, there you go, Yes, year we would have had
philip rivers, but at all plays together. Now, it's a
classic Vegas misdirect about what's going on in camp and
where Purdy is. In all projections, he's gonna be your
opening day guy, and blah blah blah.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Trey Lance is over here and Sam Darnold's over here.
We're not talking about that now, are we.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
We're talking about fanciful things of Would Philip Rivers have
been part of a Super Bowl team?
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Yes, And that's a great way to put it. Fanciful
because the way this story should have been reported right on.
I'm telling you, I think this was. You're gonna see
a different reaction to this tomorrow is that we had
talked to Philip throughout the seat. Like Kyle Shan's go wait, wait,
wait wait, everything got misconstrued here. We were talking to
Philip throughout the season, and there was some level of
interest if we needed him, obviously Rock Perdy was healthy
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and Josh Johnson. If they didn't have either of those guys,
hey maybe Philip, would you come in and play because
we just need a veteran quarterback that can run the offense.
He's smart, he would pick it up. If something did
happen at some point to our quarterback Philip Rivers may
have been interested. Now he's not gonna come back and
be the third string quarterbacks that come sit on the
bench and carry a clipboard. So with that being the conversation,
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I fully believe that that conversation happened during the season.
I fully believe it did. And this is probably a
little bit of Kyle Shanahan saying, oh, had we have won,
we would have called Philip to say, hey, do you
want to come back and play in the super Bowl
because we don't have anybody like That's the more accurate
way to represent this story. I just don't think it
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was represented the way it's being reported the way it
actually was, because, like I said, there's no timeline for
it to happen. Now what now could that what I
just laid out, Absolutely, Hey we talked during the season,
but now, hey, had we made it on right, let's
let's say we let's say we go on somehow and
we're able to be win the game, we don't have
a quarterback, then we would have called Philip Rivers to
see if he wanted to come out of retirement and
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play the Super Bowl for us. That I could believe,
and that's why I guarantee you're going to see something
a little bit different tomorrow. Kyle Shannon's going to come
to practice and say, you know, just before we start,
just a couple of quick things. Look, look, I don't
like what the Jets are doing with hard knocks. I'm
not a big fan. We're doing a better job and
the coaching staff did a year ago here. But I
want to get into this whole Philip Rivers thing, and
you're gonna see stream streamlined and explain a little bit
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better than how we had its own.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Point of clarification. Everybody was hurt. We needed a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Ye if by some miracle we were still run that
won that game by just handing the ball off when
our guy couldn't throw the ball any longer.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Then yes, I guess you can go down. I don't.
I don't think you need to clarify it.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
People can run with it however they want, and get
into Captain Philip coming out of you know, that conversion
van and being ready to play.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
I think it makes for just better theater. If we
would have gotten him to his Super Bowl against Patrick
Mahomes as a member of the forty nine ers and
he was signed after the NFC title game. How great
is that for the legend of Philip.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Yeah, no, that it would have been, and it would
have been awesome to talk about. And it would have
been where else are you gonna go? Because you have
two inch quarterbacks that can't play, and here's Philip rivers.
It would have been it. I mean it would I
would say that's the only story, and that would have
been Then it would have been accurate. But but this
hole the ways, like they had conversations he was going
to join the team. He would have joined the team
if he was gonna do it.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
But that's just there.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Right at that point, you had decided to go with
Josh Johnson as your backup, and maybe that warrants some
conversation of well, if you were having the conversation with
Philip and he was ready, why didn't you pull the trigger?
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Exactly right, That's why they conversation happened, right right.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
You were convinced that Josh Johnson was your number two
and you kept it there. Uh, And so yeah, I
think it's it's all just a matter of semantics and timeline.
But certainly this makes for better theater if it was
a Hey, we discussed this and this was the plan
if we'd won, Like, well, no, everybody got hurt, and
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now it's either Joe Montana comes out and see whether
what's left in his shoulder, or you go to option B,
which was Philip Rivers in a Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
No no, no, dude, no, dude, dude, no, no, do
you're missing? You would have like like they do during
the season when a team is having kicking woes, they
bring they bring in guys for tryouts, whether or not
they're gonna sign them. It's either, hey, this is the
last chance for our kicker to get it going. Uh,
and then we make a trade, but they bring in guys. Oh,
look who's into kick tryout for the Cowboys this week
and so and so and oh, by the way, you
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know the Cowboys are gonna have that this season, like
you would do if you were the forty nine ers
like Montana and Young and Garcia, and you bring them
all in and you have them all go through some
kind of tryout and you're broadcast it live on NFL Network,
and whoever does the best, they sign and bring them in.
And you have to be a former forty nine or
quarterback to be able to sign with the team and
go on to play in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Giovanni Carmazzi, Sure, ready?
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Why not?
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Every ready makes fun of me because I was drafted
ahead Brady, Well, here you go, I got my chance.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
John Hill reporting for Dirny. Oh that would have been
so fantastic. Oh man, even Nick Bullens could have been that.
I mean, anybody that ever played a down at quarterback
for the forty nine ers since Montana is allowed to come.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
In, Kaepernick shows up. Oh, I want my shot? Oh
my god?
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Could you imagine that would have been the best Kaepernick
comes into play in.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
This, put my arm up against these guys, let's go.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
Now.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
That would Now, that would have made I think the
internet would have exploded.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
You break the NFL.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
It al, Yeah, there would have been no other stories
for had me forget it everything.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
That announcement of nineteen eighty nine by Taylor Swift last night, nothing.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Not, It's not Why is she in a blue dress?
Why did Colin Kaepernick play in the Super Bowl? Oh,
you're right, I don't care about the dress for Taylor Swift, that's.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
All nobody cares anymore.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
No, exactly that I mean, that would have been Oh wow, See,
that would have been the story.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
See what I did there? That was great and we
just escalated it. This is the first.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Time I first time I ever wish you were a
GM of a team, because usually your idea is like
you would run that team into the ground. But this one,
I really like, what are you talking about? Oh, you'd
run that team into the ground.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
You're out of your mind?
Speaker 1 (10:56):
You would you want to keep the current Bears logo
with the sea on instead of going one of the
smiling of the snarling bear, which.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Is I mean, they've always been co logos. I mean,
so this isn't new.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Nah, but yeah, I see you got you gotta be
on the right side of the logo. You're not even
the right side of the logo.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
I'm all right with the logo. They've been marketing and
selling the hell out of that logo. It's not like
it's gonna be much different.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Ah, guys, imagine Steve Spurrier coming for the competition, that's true?
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Or here you go.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Are you here to coach it up?
Speaker 4 (11:25):
No?
Speaker 1 (11:25):
No, we're here to play. Remember Hesman Trophy nineteen six
thy that's right? Oh, Tim ritake all these guys. Oh
I forgot about him. Oh I forgot about that guy
open call forty nine. If you have you played, it
would be in the They don't have the newspaper anymore,
but it would be like in the back of the newspaper.
Did you play quarterback for the forty nine ers sometime
between nineteen eighty four and twenty twenty three, then please
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show up at you know, at at Levi Stadium here
on Tuesday for a workout and maybe you could be
the quarterback in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
God.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Yeah, yeah, that would have been Oh my goodness, that
would have been great. You could have had like a
two or three a audition process and turn it into
like and turn it into like a like a like
a whole bachelor or bachelorette kind of thing where some
people stay after one day and then go back after
the second.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Day, and you get and you get a football. Yeah,
you get to keep it. You get to keep throwing.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
And if you don't, they take your jersey off you
right there. Yeah, but they just cut it off of you.
All right, Sorry, let's cut.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
The guy comes walking out with a giant, novelty size
par of scissors. Oh no, it's.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Over that guy opting Chris Winkie. That guy's cutting Montanna's
jersey right between the one and the six. Oh that's
so sad.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
I never thought Young's got a couple of reps left
in him.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Jason a clipboard? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, there you go.
You either get a football or clipboard.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Oh, that would have been.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Steve Stenstrom and Trent Dilfer in the mix.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Oh yeah, yep, you're right, you're absolutely right. Wow, now
that would have been.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
This is some next level stuff.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Oh boy, that would have been.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
See.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Now, I really want to go back in time and
have the Niners win the game so we can have
that Dorsey. Oh, Ken, No, he wouldn't. He's the he's
an OC.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Now, it doesn't matter. He's obligated to show up. Oh okay,
it's just like conscription.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Oh you know. Look, you're obviously obligated to arrive for
your military service. Here, you have to show up for
forty nine ers. Tryout.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Listen. I really want to get out of jury duty. No,
I'm still got to show up. You got your juror badge,
put it on. If you can't, you you give me
wait for the Niners. You ain't getting out of this.
It's now or never. For Elvis Kerbak.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
TJ, and then you get JT. O Sullivan DJ.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
A lot of suspicious minds off for Elvis girback coming
back to tryout DJ. Alright, so Elvis, a little less conversation,
a little more touchdowns? Can we have that DJ.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
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Speaker 5 (14:42):
Man go ASX dude a ride and we're gonna give
you a So I was kind of hoping for that
time to continue.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
I hadn't earned that one for a while.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
There I go, well, here's the thing is that it
would have made sense.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
I'm dancing around.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
See what a really.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Good sense for Ty Shirt to come back and play
the Dwight Yoakam version of Suspicious Minds because we had
a hot take conversation a few minutes ago that the
Dwight Yoakam Suspicious Minds version is better than the Elvis
Suspicious Minds version.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
Oh what about finding Young Cannibals?
Speaker 1 (15:24):
No, come on, now, that's a little to better. That's
a that's all. That's a hall of very good song.
That's a.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
I'm gonna go a hall of fame on that one.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
I mean, I'm not going to dismiss Rolling Gift or anything,
but come on, no.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
You should not. You should never dismiss them in any way,
shape or form.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
The fact that I knew his name was Rolling Gift,
I had to be impressive, though.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
I was to throw that out there was really good.
What was the movie with Raylely Yoga, Jeff Daniel and
Meg Griffin were and they were on that on track.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Oh I strained about that.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, oh that was that movie was awesome.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Because was Something Wild going all the way back.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
To Something Wild? Yeah, Something Wild. It's great movie anyways,
better than any preseason game maybe you'll ever watch in
your life.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Good Fellas. That was the movie. All right, So hey,
let's let's let's kick things off of the conversation.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
Melanie Griffin.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Yeah, you said, Meg Griffith, and I don't thinking I know,
I just.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
Yeah, sorry, Meg Ryan, Melanie Griffith, you just put the
two together. Never mind, I don't want to go there.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
I started I.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Started thinking about Lois Griffin. Actually, that's where I was
with all that. So anyway, hey, look, this story we've
been talking about for a little bit here before we
get into the night Tonight. Uh, the Kyle Shanahan intimates
that had the Niners made it to the Super Bowl
last year, they would have called Philip Rivers to come
back and play the Super Bowl for them because they
were out of quarterbacks. I can't believe there was actually
a real conversation, But what do you think, man?
Speaker 4 (17:01):
Oh, absolutely, I believe.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
That when conversation.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
What were they going to do.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
When are they going to have that conversation? There was
no time to everybody was healthy until they had been able.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
No, No, they had been talking of rivers earlier in
the years, right, and were started turning through quarterback right
and begged and he didn't come back.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Right.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
Do you think he would have like he would have
come back for the super Bowl?
Speaker 1 (17:25):
But they never talked to about it because there was
no opportunity because they had healthy quarterbacks until they were eliminated.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
When are they going to have that about? I think
he was talking hypothetically if they had gotten through that game,
that they might have called him. I think that that's
I mean, I think you're twisting this around to try
and find some conspiracy that doesn't really I'm.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Going how it's been reported. I'm thinking it's going to
change that exactly tomorrow, but I'm going by how it's
been reported.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
They talked about whether if you know, they if they
needed to get him, they would have gotten for the
super Bowl. That's all they're saying. Saying. Okay, maybe maybe
I'm misinterpreting this thing, but maybe maybe you're you know,
you're deductive theory here? Is this far superior to mind.
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But I think it was just like if we got
through the game and we need a quarterback, we've been
calling Philip Rivers.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
I think you're to listen to Rick Athlete. That's what's
going through your head while you're trying to Probably.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
I probably because it's far more entertaining. So that's whine. Well,
I mean we're arguing about something that never happened. Yeah,
like that's I mean, at least athlete, you know, saying
that song and that was brilliant and I was just
dancing around the kitchen. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
I think it's just great misdirection from any questions they
have about their quarterback position for twenty twenty three.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
Oh look, if they ain't brock party, that's their challenged.
Let's just put it that way, because they go, you know,
one guy's a brain dead heaver and the other guy
hasn't played football in four years basically, So there you go.
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I hasn't played any real amount of football since twenty nineteen.
That was the last time he played football on a
regular basis in actual competitive games.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
See, I told you this is not great.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
I told Harmon to go back and look and find
if the question proceeding Shanahan talking about Rivers, was, Hey,
how does Trey Lance look so far? You know, last
year I've made to the Super Bowl would have had
Philip Rivers. Wait what yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, let's talk
about that instead.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
Oh that's awesome, Philip Rivers. Just anything to divert from
Trey Lance. Anything that, you know what, I feel bad
for Trey Lance because when I watch him, and I've
only been out there one day, But this is a
guy like he would just wish there was some place
that young quarterbacks could go to get a bunch of
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throws in semi competitive situations, right, like some kind of
version of the World League or the Arena League where
you guys could just play and see live action, because
that's what he needs. Like, this is a guy who
he might actually be a decent quarterback, but we will
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probably never find out because he's probably never going to
get on the field enough to develop. And it's a
really he's trapped in this situation. It's a really awful
situation for the forty nine ers and particularly for him.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Let's move to the games tonight.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
We watched the Texans and the Patriots, and Jason's lathered
up as a Jets fan, that there's malcontentedness and discord
in that Patriots offense.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
And how quickly is mac Jones deposed?
Speaker 4 (20:45):
Supposed? I didn't know that he was a king or
that he was a dictator.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Of well he said right now?
Speaker 4 (20:52):
Is he considered the Vladimir Putin of the Patriots? Is
that what we're talking about?
Speaker 2 (20:57):
I just thought, I mean, he's then the face I
thought it was good.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
To be Boltanara where you can get voted out? Or
is he have to be like, you know not, you know,
like does the Wagner group have to come in and
knock him out?
Speaker 3 (21:08):
Is that, however you want to answer the question, does
not have to be a violin crew?
Speaker 4 (21:12):
And is it the Wagner group? Would the Wagner group
be led by Mike Wagner or Bobby Wagner?
Speaker 3 (21:18):
That's the question, Jack Wagner, because that would be that
would be sing all I need and he can golf
a really good game.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Hang the line right there. It was my line for
Jack Wagner. I had the all I need you he
could sing all I had? That was my line.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
I had the line. It's like the whold music in
his head?
Speaker 4 (21:41):
Now what were we talking about something I asked you about.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
The Patriots and how much of a problem they have
And does Bill Belichick really hate Matt Jones.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
Well, they're not exactly buddies. I mean, I think that
Mac Jones hasn't developed the kind has never had the
kind of thick skin that Tom Brady has, right, and
Tom Brady has some of you know, certainly early in
his career, for the first sixteen seventeen years of his career,
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that guy could take all the all the verbal abuse
from Belichick the Belichick and dish out because that was
Belichick's way of establishing that no one is a sacred
cow on your team, right, Like nobody's going to be
protected from criticism because if I can rip Brady and
Brady's willing to go along with it, then you know
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I can do this, you know, any other person on
the team, right Mac Jones, I don't, you know, like
he's bristling at it. Plus the results aren't there, so
you have there's probably a whole lot more to Belichick's
criticism that actually rings true, and he wonders about because
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Mac Jones is just really not that good. I mean,
he's okay, but he's he's clearly the fourth best quarterback
in that division. I mean that's like, that's not even
a question. And he's dealing with a lot of these
kind of retreads that you know, like DeVante Parker, that
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the Belichick keeps throwing at him, and instead of like
being really aggressive and going and getting DeAndre Hopkins and
really making a play to get a receiver who can
help that guy out, he's saying, Oh, we're okay with
the tight ends, and you know, we're okay with these
retreads that I keep going out and getting. I mean,
came keep the law firm of Jacobe and Myers.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
It's about time.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
It's which one was better?
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Was that?
Speaker 4 (23:45):
Or was it cal Worthington? In my dog spot, which
one was the better at? It was cal Worthington was
the man. You guys got to admit that they still
play those at. I mean, he's probably been dead for years,
but I at two o'clock in the morning on La Chandels,
will you can you find a cal Worthington?
Speaker 2 (24:05):
App I can find a lot of lawyers trying to
get me down, so cal certainly original that way.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Pretty sure you can. Jason Cole NFL Insider, Our guest
here the Jason smithsho with Mike Carment. All Right, so
the biggest question I've been saving this for last fore
after watching Hard Knocks the Jets chance at winning the
Super Bowl? What are they? Eighty percent? Now eighty five percent?
After watching the first episode.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
Oh, I was up. I was up at over ninety five.
I was heittering between ninety six and ninety eight. I
was thinking there was like this two percent chance that
the Bills might sneak by them. Yeah, it was way beyond.
They're way beyond cincinnaty An. You know that Mahomes guy.
He's got nothing on Rogers in the Jets, especially now
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that Rogers is the head coach here. Do you believe
that Rogers is how much you he's working on changing
the perception of who he really is?
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Ding Ding?
Speaker 4 (25:08):
Yeah? Like I mean how much? I mean, how much
work has he done to say? You know, everybody thought
I was such a jerk bag for the last like
five years. Maybe I ought to be nice now, Maybe
I ought to try that. I mean, is that where
we're going here? Because I don't recognize this Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
No, that's the whole reason why he wanted new York.
If the Giants had the quarterback opening, he would have
wanted to be a Giant. He wanted to he wanted
New York for his brand because he's looking at what's
the next couple of years my life after football. I
want to be relevant and.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
I want to be on Jempardy, Ken Jennings. I'm replacing
Ken Jennings and miam Bi Alec is gone, gone.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Wow, that's a hot take right there, Rogers, he's getting
rid of everybody.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
Hey, hey, let's just yeah, he's like stalking. He's stalking
the Jeopardies age. Can you imagine that? Yeah, that's right,
Miaan b Alec Walter Reed Junior High School and North
Hollywood High School. Baby, there you go. I just have
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this picture in my mind that when he's done playing
in New York, he will be hanging around they sell
him in Burbank, right, to be driving around Burbank screaming Jennings,
I'm coming for you something like that.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Well, that would be a big departure from Rogers.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
Rogers, Rogers, that's what. That's that's what that's what. That's
what Semeni's doing right now. Semi is dressing up with
the belt and every time he's trying to get Rogers's
attention for a question, he goes for rich Semi for.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
But he's going to get to cover a super Bowl
team this year, so mean he's going to be happy.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
Well, you're gonna cover the super Bowl no matter what.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
He's covering his own team.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
He's covering his own team. He's gonna be doing every
single We're going to replace you with him once the
Jets start with there eight nine and oh forget, we're
talking to rich Semeni every week.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
You can't get I can I can get see you
can't get it.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
You can get you kidding me?
Speaker 1 (27:21):
You can't get one direct message And I'll get Semani.
Speaker 4 (27:26):
And I'll tell him what it's all about, and I'll
tell him what what a never mind?
Speaker 2 (27:31):
I want everybody know.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
This, Jason Cole, he keeps dmming me saying to call him.
I don't understand what this is all about.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
Poor rich Semi. He's such a good guy, like I'm
he is. He is a he is a fault of
the Earth kind of guy. One of the nicest guys
you'll ever run into it. And I just keep like
bringing him into this mess about the Jets and Rogers.
Just what kind of friend of mine? Not a good one? Okay,
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you're going to give you.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Yeah, make sure you tell him that we're looking to
call him and talk to him, and he could replace you.
And I guarantee you the first thing he would say
is listen, Jason, I get while you're calling. I like
all the cowboys that are in the Hall of Fame.
I don't want to boot anybody out.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
Man.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
You got to get somebody.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
Well, then he definitely can't be because you guys are
anti cowboy too. I mean I need about yeah, like
they gotta go, every single one of them. Stawback is
gone this year. I mean, like, come on, Tony dor
said Bob Lily. I mean, you know what, do you want.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Randy White and Harvey Martin both of them out?
Speaker 3 (28:41):
I mean Drew Pearson, I mean that that statue hasn't
even set yet.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
Oh god, no, thank god, we got Yeah. I'm going
to take a blow torch to that time.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
He's he's on Twitter, not Jason. That is that Jason Pearson.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
I've always buddy appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
Man.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
We'll talk to you.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
By j call. Be sure to catch live editions of
the Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten
pm Eastern, seven pm Pacific. Tay Shirt, I.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Have a ten dollars bill for you if you can
tell me in the next five seconds who the actor
is in the video with Paul Simon. Three four five. Yes,
it is very good, Jase.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
That would be one hell of a video.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Very nice, very nice. Who was it Chevy Chase?
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Really?
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Chevy Chase pretends to sing the song while Paul Simon's
playing all the all the instruments.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
They dance around with a white background behind them.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Yeah. Does Chevy ever stop getting chased? Uh? No, this
is back with Who's I gotta explain to millennials with
Jemmy Chase. You watch community? Not sorry, millennials don't watch
community either.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Well that didn't and well either No not true.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Part of the community.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
You are you are. You're part of our community. We
appreciate you being part of our family.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
I'll explain it to you off the air. You've never
seen the Christy Brinkley pool scene.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
No, you've never seen a national Lampoons.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Vacation, European vacation.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Christmas vacation, vacation.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
How about have you ever heard the song by the
Go Gos Vacation. I don't think so. Did you ever
see Spider?
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (30:27):
Okay, it's a song at the end all I ever wanted. Hey,
we have news right now. Big mouth Netherlands is out
of the World Cup. Well there they go getting knocked.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
See they were getting all chirpy, See how the world works.
They got chirpy about the US and those are the headlines.
And now they go home. What a game.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
They can go chill with USA? Sure the big Hey,
big mouth Netherlands, big mouth USA, all that stuff. Uh oh,
we will have more on this story coming up in
a few minutes, because yeah, Netherlands had some choice things
to say one of their big players about big mouth
USA being out of the World Cup and now big
mouth Netherlands that are also out of the World Cup.
But the big story today was the revelation that Phil
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Mickelson gambler Phil Mickelson, or golfer Phil Michlelson, however you
want to refer to him.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Over the last thirty years, according to a new book
coming out, has bet over a billion dollars on baseball, football,
and basketball, and there are a lot of different reports
as to how much he would bet at a time.
Sometimes we bet as much as two hundred grand on
a game. One time he bet over forty bets on
one day of Major League Baseball. He bet to think
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about betting over a billion dollars over the course of
the past thirty years. But the other part of the
revelation is that, according to this book, he asked one
of his friends to put a bet on the Ryder
Cup in twenty twelve, in which Phil Mickelson was participating.
He wanted to bet four hundred grand on the team
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USA to win the Ryder Cup and was, according to sources,
was talked out of this idea, saying, hey, Phil, I
think this is a really bad optic and it didn't happen. Now,
this story is insane. But this is the one part
of you hear, Phil Mickelson. There's a lot of different
things where we're debating and talking about the place of
gambling and all this is rightly so, However, this is
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something that's got to be investigated. I mean, this is
this is not hey, these kids from Iowa and Iowa
State are betting on these games five and ten dollars. Here,
this is you're talking about a golfer who was gonna
bet four hundred or reported to bet four hundred thousand
dollars on the outcome of the World Cup. Can you
imagine a story, Hey, Aaron Rodgers wanted to bet four
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hundred grand on the Jets to win the Super Bowl
that he was playing in and he was talked out
of it. There would be the biggest investigation ever. This
is you can't just go, oh, well, he didn't make
the bet. Nove with Phil betting a billion dollars over
the course of the last thirty years. No, I think
there's something you got to look into a little bit here.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
Yeah, it's when we talk about that kind of money
and participation. Look, we've got the Iowa Iowa state thing
that continues. What did I tell you? What do they do?
Drink smoke, get together in the parks, listen to music,
and now evidently gamble with Phil Mickelson here. Yeah, I mean,
whenever this starts circling around, we start going back to
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how you played out a hole, how you played out
around based on odds as they stood out, and some
of the stories it gets whimsical and it's like, oh wow,
that's kind of crazy.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
But then you talk about it over a thirty year career.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
Yeah, maybe it starts making people a little uncomfortable and
they start shifting in their seats. But as we know,
I mean, look, people that pretend to be in charge
of a lot of things really don't seem to have
a lot of follow through or there's room for negotiation
high NC double. So I don't expect much traction out
of this other than they'll say it's hearsay.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
They'll say it's just story.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
I mean, come on, you can't just say, okay, this
did that. Phil's been is an admitted gambler for Oh,
you can't just say, ah, it's not boys being boys.
Come on, this is like worse than Pete Rose what
he ever would have done. Like Pete Rose wasn't even
gambling this kind of money, and you say, hey, the
guy wanted to put a bet down on the United
States to win the Ryder Cup. Now Phil has denied
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that he said I never bet on the Ryder Cup,
doesn't mean he didn't try to bet on the Ryder
Cup and was told no. So yeah, I'm pretty sure
this is something that Golf's got to look into and investigate.
And knowing what Phil Mickelson standing is with a PGA tour.
I honestly, I have no doubt they're gonna put something
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together and go, yeah, let's investigate this guy, this guy
who pushed everybody to live golf and now coming back,
we got to spend more money and give more money
these pesky golfers than ever wanted because of Phil Mickelson. Yeah,
we're going to investigate you, Phil and take a look
and see. I fully do expect this is something that's
looked into.
Speaker 4 (35:05):
Well.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
But everybody got back in the sandbox together, Jason, so
it's not as contentious. I mean, look, still a lot
of hurt feelings and anger, no question about it. But
remember go back to Patrick Ewing, remember when the players were,
you know, and there was a divide in labor, and
he said, we make a lot of money, but we
spend a lot of money. Sure, Phil makes a lot
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of money. He bet a lot of money just because
we're adding zero's. The principle is the same.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
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