August 16, 2023 • 40 mins
Jason Smith and Mike Harmon update you on the Michael Oher/Tuohy's/Blind Side mess. Kristaps Porzingis confirms he has plantar fasciitis. And Joel Embiid causes a cryptic stir on social media by removing Philadelphia from his profile.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:28):
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You could give me another season of ted Lasso and
say it's the best season yet, it wouldn't put the
smile on my face that I have right now. Hbo
on it in front of me. Aaron Rodgers giving thumbs up,
Jets players making plays getting set for episode two of
Hard Knocks. Mike Carmen. I'm just ready to roll.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Did they get any of the incompletions or the ankle
injury from today in? Did they set in?
Speaker 1 (01:15):
He's fine, so don't put stuff out there. That's not true.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
It's true that he was slipping around, he was having
issues and then he was didn't bestin and erratic.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Did he miss the play? He didn't. He didn't miss
a play. He didn't miss a play in practice. It's fine.
Everything is fine. Yes, his calf, Oh, he lit a
little bit. Guess what he didn't miss a snap. Stop
putting stuff out there the other calf. Stop putting stuff
out there. Man, he's gonna end.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Up needing calf replacements.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Man, well, I will cut your cat because you have
pretty good calves. I will cut your calves out while
you sleep and give it to him if I need to.
I just don't think I want.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
I dream the other night before I went out to
Joshua Tree and was hanging out him, like, you know
what if the worst happens, and you know, you get
uh racked up by a coyote and all he did
was rip off my calves, would take a lot of
my identity away.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Are you sure that that was a dream you had
before he went out there.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
No, it was before and then when I was out
there then and then I heard him howling, and it
sounded like they were triangulating and planning an attack.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Problematic, man, the Harry howling around your kitchen door. You
better not let him in. Mike Harmon got mutilated late
last night.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Fear is a terrible thing. And dwarf and rush though,
let me tell you, baby, let's go. Yeah, hard knocks Tuesday.
Lots of greatness across the sporting landscape. I'm one round
closer to the to get another fantasy draft being done
here in mid August. All these great things. It's such
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a beautiful day.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Oh man, Well, we'll have more on hard knocks coming
up in a few minutes, because, hey, the Jets activated
bris Salt today. Suddenly they have the best running back
room in the FL. I told you last they just
wasted seven. They took a negative and they turned it
into a positive. They took their biggest weakness and turned
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into one of their biggest strengths, the biggest strengths in
the league. You tell me one team that wouldn't trade
their running back room for the Jets running back room
right now, Vin Cook Bristoll, Yeah, you get me those guys.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Let me see. Yeah, I'm feeling all right if I'm Pittsburgh,
I'm all right. Now, come on, guys, true, I mean,
come on.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Naji Harri is gonna lose his job with Jalen Warren
any day. It's gonna happen anything.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Yeah, but you got both of them, so you're feeling
that is true.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
You do have both, So you're.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Feeling pretty good there. I mean, the Ravens just seem
to find a new guy to step up at any moment.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Yeah, but they fall short. These are all guys that
are just guys.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
But is that because the receiver stink and the play
calling got predictable? Jets don't have and they couldn't hit,
you know, big plays when they needed to.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
We don't have guys a steak. We got great receivers.
You've got guys.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
You're talking about the past. I need today.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Everything is wonderful, Everything is happening, Everything is awesome. It's
like having the Lego piece of resistance. It's having it's
having you.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
You're just so another happy Tuesday. It's almost like you're
eating a couple of sandwiches. As we speak.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
I really hope that they get the they get the
Dalvin Cook thing into the end of this one. I
don't know if he will because they're they're opening up
with Oz the Magician and the Mentalist appearing at Jets
camp and all the big video that made the rounds
today that you saw of him doing all these tricks,
kind of like a new age David Blaine. He's doing
all these things at Jets Like. It's opening up with
a big version of that. But I hope at the
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end we get a little bit of a hey, oh,
by the way, we got Dalvin Cook.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Did he get cursed out by any of these guys?
Like remember that time David Blaine was trying to do
some trick with Harrison Ford and he cursed him and
called him like a devil and told him to get
out of his house.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
I don't think that happened. Although the Jets have control
over that, they would say, we don't want kicking that
guy out on Uh, we weren't even have that.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
We now brought hit an exorcist.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
But look the other big football story of the DEMI
clear look the Jets are page one. The Michael or
blind Side situation. Just continues to get crazier and crazier.
Remember it was yesterday that Michael Lohr announced he was
filing a suit against The Twoies, the family that adopted
him that became the basis for the book The blind Side,
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which turned into the movie The blind Side, which won
Sandra bullockin Academy Award for Best Actress. Football player who
needed a break was kind of down on his luck.
The Twoies adopted him. He wound up going to college
and everything else, playing in the NFL for a decade,
and he is a filing suit against them that they
are that they have kept money from him that they
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made off of his story and the movie The blind Side.
The Twoies had no comment yesterday. This is a shocking
story because, look, The blind Side is one of the
most beloved sports but I told you last night it's
the best sports book I've ever read. And now the
happy ending of it all, and now the impact of
it has gone away because now you have Michael Lore
who is going to try to sue his adoptive parents
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or not quite adoptive parents, to try to get money.
At the crux of this is Michael Orr saying that
instead of adopting me. They signed me to a conservatorship
which allowed them to control the money and control my
image and make money off of me today. The two
we's respond by saying that they were victims of a
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shakedown that before this happened, Michael Orr called them to
say fifteen million dollars or I will go public with
this and really make your life difficult. The TwUI said no,
Michael laur went public with what he had to say,
and now things are a mess. It's an absolute mess
in this beloved story. It's it's so rough that Sandra
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Bullock is getting all kinds of hate like it was
her fault. And she's an actress who was in a
movie she doesn't know. Michael Orr said, I never met
Sandra Bullock. I never met It's not Sandra Bullock's face.
She was a part iner movie. That's all. It is.
All she did to part in the movie. I can't
believe she won for Blindside, probably because she should have
won before, but they didn't give it to her. So
they give it to her for Blindside. Look like I've said,
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they give you best Actor Best Actress in the NFL
when they can reward you for your career when you
have made Hollywood a lot of money, it's a lifetime
Achievement award. But she gets to win. And now things
look really weird. And I come back to one thing, Mike,
because you know, we talk about a little bit last night.
Does Michael Lor need money now? Obviously? Right, because here
he is a fifteen million I won't go public now
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I want money. I want money from the Twoies, and
it's most likely gonna end with the Two's giving him
some kind of cash. Does Michael Lor need Moneys as
a cash grab? Yeah? Probably. At the same time, are
the Twoies have they made more money than they let on? Yeah?
I think they made a little bit more money than
they let on that they made off of the blind
side in the story. But the main thing I keep
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thinking back to, and this is where I was all
day with this, is that if everything was that bad, right,
if if the Twoies were that bad and Michael Orr
was was rooked out of a lot of money, Michael
Lewis would have said something. I mean, this is the guy.
He was there for every single bit of that. He
was there through the entire time when they when when
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they lived with him, when they signed him, to a
conservatorship when he was eighteen. He was there through the
entirety of it, so he knows what was signed, he
knows what was done. He wrote the book on this
entire thing, and I keep going back to that if
it was bad, he would be the first guy to say, hey,
wait a minute, now, in my research, this is what
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I found or this is what I have here, And
he's not said anything. Now, yeah, could part of it
be Hey, I wrote the book, this is not me.
This is a difficult thing with with Michael and the
twoy'es and and boy, I have love for both of
them because I was there and I really want them
to really work this out. But at the same time,
if something really bad happened, either way, whether it was
you know, Michael or doing this or the twoies, if
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something was really bad about so someone's really making off,
making off, I think Michael Lewis would have said something
because he's never been shy about it before. Look at
the books he writes, you know, he's never been shy
about it. That if it was that bad, and there
was there was so much to this that, oh man,
this is going to rip the lid off of the story.
He would have said something by now, but it's been
two days and he's been silent and he's not said
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anything about this.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Yeah, I mean there's a lot going on here, right,
the shakedown allegations, the denials of so much on behalf
of the two wee's. We read the statement that Sean
Tooey had given to a local newspaper yesterday, and so
trying to figure out what the devil in the details
is you talk about Michael Lewis and what he would
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have known would have been around. I also, I mean
you got fourteen years of people that have been working
for Michael or as agents, publicists on down the line.
Nobody ever followed any money or tried to figure out
why money wasn't going to come in from a three
hundred million dollar project and what was true, what was imagined,
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and what should have been flowing into his accounts. I
mean that that's a dereliction of duty as well. Right,
Obviously he kicked the can down down the road, finished
his career plus seven years, and now you've got a
full team of people we know this. I mean, we've
we've talked to so many players and ex players through
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the years. The number of people that are into your business,
you know, the business of you. They all get paid
based on what's coming in. None of them noticed there
was a problem. Yeah, it's you know, it's yeah, he says.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
You know because when you hear Michael or say say, oh,
I didn't start looking into this until twenty sixteen when
I stopped playing in the NFL. It's taken you seven
years to figure out a conservatorship and not adoption and
what it's taken you seven years to go through that
come on at the same time when the two we
say we made fourteen thousand dollars and a flat fil
come on.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
And I don't think buying any of that.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
I'm not buying. And I know they were.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Moneyed and had they had a lot of other businesses
and everything else that flowed out of that. But the
goodwill out of this and this is always uh where
I come back to you on things. And maybe I'm
just old and cynical at this point. The idea of
altruism to me is like a four letter word. I
don't believe in it. That you don't do everything right.
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Your your sole ambition on something is just the goodwill
towards a person, place, or thing. Or an entity. There's
always something in it from you, whether you think you're
buying indulgences in a path to heaven, whether you think
it's just gonna make you look good to your buddies
at the country club or whatever it is you do
with your social circle. Hey, you know what we get
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to do? You know, we're part of blah blah blah.
In this case the two He's brought a guy who
was a top notch prospect and developed into a top
notch prospect into Old miss a school that they had
great ties, right, which goes to the conservatorship and the
idea of you've got to be quote family otherwise. You know,
there's problems with the NC DOUBLEA. All of those stories
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come together, so telling you you didn't profit, that, you
didn't benefit from this, but for a couple of measly
thousand dollars, nobody's buying it. It generated you know, it's
the where did all that money go? I mean it's
hundreds of millions of dollars we're generated off this film.
And this is part of why we have these strikes
that we do in Hollywood right now, because everybody wants
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to know where the money goes and this is certainly
a case front and center involving the biggest brand of everything,
the shield of the National Football League and movies and
everything that flowed out of that that people are gonna
want some answers, like if you can get some clarity
out of this boy, I think everybody that writes and
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is around movies and acts in movies they would declare
this a victory too. If suddenly you found a paper
trail to with what the two weies, whatever the result
is right, even if the accounting comes out and there's
not a dime that was misappropriated, lost or whatever that,
you know, just the truth being uh and coming to light,
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would I think be a big win for everybody.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Yeah. I just I just keep thinking that we would
have heard from more. We would especially would have heard
from Michael Lewis on this like it, because he's the
first guy you would call, hey, dude, did you come
through any of this and any of this happen? Because
you know he's got notes, you know, he's got everything,
he's got interviews, he's got all of this. He's got,
Like I said, the guy literally wrote the book on it.
He would have said something if something was really, really bad.
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Now maybe he's looking through going Okay, I want to
see if I can figure this out. I don't know
what's going on here, but this is now two days
and you know that people have called him and if
he really had a solution that could help, I'm sure
he would have, but he hasn't said anything. So this
tells me that, you know, is this gonna wind up
being a nothing burger And it's gonna wind up ending
with the two we's are gonna give Michael Laura a
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one time uh payment undisclosed, and that's gonna and that's
gonna do it, and that'll be it, and they're gonna
be estranged. And this good and this feel good story
that had so many things in it that everybody can
can take something away from. That's why the book was
so good. It was sports, it was not sports, it
was family, it was the foster system of the United States.
It was so many things, you know, and and now
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that that that's going to just break up and be
oh hey, it was a great story for a few years,
and now we now we see what was going on
at the end of it. I mean, I gotta think
that's how it's gonna end. And because if it was
bigger than that, Michael Lewis would have heard from him.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
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Speaker 1 (14:43):
Well, there it is, Week two of Hard Knocks. Is
in the books. The Jets look awesome. They had a
guy there, doctor Oz, who was doing all kinds of
crazy mentalists.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Way, doctor Oz, did you tell him about gut health?
I thought that some kind of supplements to uh work
you through.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Gut Doctors say avoid this vegetable at all costs, and
you click, like, I thought, what am I eating? What
am I not eating?
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Right?
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Then you click to like a thousand things and you go, Okay,
I don't need to do that.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
How come nobody got in any trouble for all the
shilling in false science being perpetrated there or from Phil.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
I think, I think, I think people do get in trouble.
I just think it's something that you know, kind of
goes past.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Take pack those money.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Sure, Uh, but look it's another week, and it's a
big week for the Jets. And look, you've heard a
lot of Aaron Rodgers, who is the front and center
star of Hard Knocks. Right, this is this is obviously
what the Jets have done when they agreed to do
Hard Knocks, or when they were made to do it
by the Jets. Look, we're gonna give you a lot
of Aaron Rodgers. We told you this, and congratulations to
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everybody who is now running with the Hey, Aaron Rodgers
really caught. He really wants to push himself and push
his brand. Yes, we told you this months ago. We
told you as soon as they announced that Jets are
Hard Knocks. Of course, Aaron Rodgers and Rogers is going
to be the star because he chose New York for
the brand. He chose the Jets because they were the
team that had the quarterback opening. If the Giants had
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the quarterback opening, he would have gone there. But he
chose New York for the brand, and he is going
to make sure that he gets every ounce of it.
As he launches the next part of his career. He's
going to be seen as being affable, being fun because
after he plays football in a few years, he's going
to want to do TV. He's gonna want to buy things.
He's going to want to do the next level of
his career. So yeah, he's choosing the Jets because of
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their brand, right, and it's working out so well for him.
Now here's where this conversation takes a little bit of
a turn. Right. You have Hard Knocks, which has been
a big success so far by anybody's stretch the imagination. Right,
you have Aaron Rodgers on TV and it's been great
so far. Not so great for Quarterback on Netflix, which
got a ton of attention. Everybody's watching that first season
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that follows Patrick Mahomes and Kirk Cousins and Marcus Mario
to all through the twenty twenty two season. Don't punch me, dude.
Don't punch me. Don't don't punch me, dude. That's all
I keep thinking my head. Don't punch me, dude, don't
punch me. Why is quarterback finding it so difficult to
find people and find quarterbacks to follow? When you see
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Hard Knocks here and Aaron Rodgers is going, hey, he
embraced it. Why can't we get more people to embrace it?
Why would other guys should do it? Look at Mahomes
said yes. Why is everybody saying no? It seems like
every quarterback in the NFL is asked that question over
the course of the preseason and then they go, oh, yeah,
they asked me. I said no, Daniel Jones, Josh Allen, Oh,
they asked me. I said no. Oh, they asked me.
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I said no. They asked me, I know. I said no.
I didn't want to do it. I didn't want to
do it. And Peyton Manning's upset, Right, what did he say?
The one word I don't want to hear is distraction.
Jo distracted. Meanwhile, Peyton Manning would never have done that.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
When he was zero chance in hell.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
It's easy for me to say because I know exactly
why quarterback can't find quarterbacks. It's it's it's easy ask
yourself this, What is the win for a quarterback who
says yes to this? What's the win? Right? Hard knocks?
You have to do it right, You have to do it.
And it's coming out great because Aaron Rodgers wants it.
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He wants this opening, he wants this visibility. Right. That's
why I understand why it's working out great for everybody.
Aaron Rodgers wants it because he wants to either change
the perception that he has or continue to get keep
his name, and we're not talking about any other NFL
player like we talk about Aaron Rodgers. Right, that's what
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he wanted. Tell me another quarterback who after watching the
Netflix series is going to say I want to sign
up for it. Right, it's a no win situation. Mahomes
did it probably because he was bored. Yeah, sure, out
of cry of won a super Bowl. What do I care?
You know, all you're going to see is what it's
like to be a big time super duper star. And
you get stuff like don't punch me, dude, don't punch But.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
That's it if he's weird, if he's like any of
that stuff, right, the don't punch me's the stuff with
Crosby a lot of little interactions like that. You just say,
all right, he's a winner, so the he's a bit
of odd and you shrug and you move on.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
It doesn't look like the guy's legacy. Nothing can hurt.
So that's okay. So he does this one. Now the
other two guys, all right, Kirk Cousins, It's been really
interesting to see Kirk Cousins. But how does Kirk Cousins
come off? Does he come off a little weird and
a little odd, and things come off a little awkward
with how he handles being quarterback. Yeah, you know, it's
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not just about stuff. Oh, I got a hidden room
in my house that has all my football stuff in it.
It's a hidden room under the stairs, like where Harry potters.
So you know that's a good move. Though.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
There's a lot of value in what's in that room,
so I mean, you gotta keep it hidden.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
But overall, you know, hey, I want you to see
who I am. Okay, Yeah, little weird, little awkward. I
don't think it does wonders for him as being a leader,
being a quarterback. And Marcus Mariota, what do we say, Hey,
all we're seeing is why he shouldn't have been a
number one quarterback from the Falcons right away. We watched
his whole season go the way it did wind up,
leaving the team crazy stuff happening. There was no win
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there for Mariota. There was no there's no win for
Kirk Cousins. There's some kind of win for Mahomes because
it doesn't matter because his legacy is bulletproof and you
have Rogers doing hard knocks. Who wants to have that
out there? Any other quarterback that wants to increase their
brand can do it in a less risky way. Then
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you're gonna follow me and put all my good and
bad moments on television. Because make no mista, people say,
evil media, evil media. I go just stop with this.
But you know, hey, you do something bad or something
that's making it on television. Right, So there's less risky
ways for quarterbacks who want to get their brand out
there to be able to do it. Then say hey,
I'm going to give you the rights to put whatever
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you want to on Quarterback on Netflix. When you think
about it that way, you understand why people are saying, no,
what's Josh Allen's win? I mean's you're gonna get another
Wegman's endorsement if he goes on If he goes on
television and does it. What's the win for Daniel Jones?
All Right, the spotlight is on it and he fails,
boy spectacularly failed. What's the win? I don't get the
win for a lot of quarterbacks. If you're trying to
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establish yourself, you can wind up really hurting yourself because hey,
we get to see that you're not ready for the moment.
If you're somebody trying to win a championship, and you can't.
There's too many bad things that can happen. There's not
enough good. And when you don't have control over what's
going out there, and you get that, Hey, I have
pr people working for me, I have agents working for me.
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I got a lot of people that are helping out
getting my name out there, getting me commercials, getting me
interviews that I want to have, or you know, making
sure my charity is getting taken care of, and I'm
doing things in the community. There's much less risky ways
to do it. So I completely get why the quarterbacks
are saying no, because I don't see the win for
the vast majority of them.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
Yeah, I mean with Kirk Cousins, we already knew he
was a bit quirky. We'll always have you like that,
that'll live on forever. And look, we know his history,
we know his family history. You got people delving into
that a little bit more as you get into his
upbringing and how you know he is and how he acts,
and so he was more relatable. I think folks just
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like the button down, put on the glasses and hang
out family man. Whatever.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
There.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
I mean, there's some good to be done. For him,
So I think net Kirk Cousins wins, Marcus Mariota. We
know how the season ended, so you already knew, all right,
at some point this is turning, and so you watch
that start to spiral a bit for most of the
quarterbacks as you say, you got you gotta find the win, right.
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Whenever we go through and we're picking out stories and
things we want to discuss and entertain and inform you
about here on the show, a lot of it comes
back to the what's the win in doing a story?
Some of them it's just all right, it should be
left for a news update or a passing comment just
to acknowledge something is transpired, and then you move forward.
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In this case, for a lot of these quarterbacks that
are trying to form their identity, it's not confined to
training camp, right, this is a full year with you
and your family and your other family. May you think
Aaron Rodgers are doing this if it's in the vein
of quarterback, Hey, we're gonna need you at least one
appearance by members of your family. You think that's going over, Well, no,
(23:32):
no it's not. We're gonna have Hey, you know what, Aaron,
we invited all of your extended family to come to camp,
and it's gonna be a family reunion. Before we get
into the preseason opener. Is that a family?
Speaker 1 (23:42):
What did you say family? Did you say family? Now
you can't that's a trigger word right then, can't bring
that up.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
But you see what I mean. It's it's in terms
of hard knocks. It is a four to five week
period where you've gone to camp. And yes, you get
little feel good stories and Aaron Rodgers, the great tourist.
We had Sauce Gardner in episode one going and graduating,
so you get some of that, but pretty quickly it's
all just about the work that's being put in the
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meetings and everything going through, getting timing down, the communication
between players and coaches, a couple of colorful back and forth,
you know, in terms of these joint practices and the
preseason games or whatever. The Quarterback Show is just so
far reaching, plenty of times to catch you in a
bad moment and you don't have the editorial control because
you're not with the team. Is not doing this right.
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It's not a battle to where it's like all right,
I get artistic, I get final edit right, like I'm
a director with some clout no, no, no, no, you
can't go and screw up my movie. I get to
put out what I want. No, these quarterbacks are at
the wins, So if they have a bad moment, even
if it's out at a family outing, you know, all
those things Mahomes was doing. He's he's getting shown up
(24:57):
by his wife, throwing, knocking down bottles at the fair
and all that stuff. Like what if he just started
cursing and losing his mind instead of laughing about it.
I mean that could go really sideways for someone that's
not Patrick Mahomes. Yeah, it's like there's so many of
those moments that could potentially sabotage. And certainly as the
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season goes on, what are they gonna do. They're gonna
go for the most salacious little reactions and eyebrow raises
and side eye that you can possibly find.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Yeah, so the only way to do it is one
of two things. Right, because it's a good show. I
Like I said, I'm stunned the people decided to do
it right. Maybe because hey, Peyton Manning's in charge of it.
I feel like I trust Peyton Manning And it's not
like these guys are coming out of it looking terrible,
you know, Kirk, Like I said, Kirk Cousins looks weird,
and Marcus Murray looks like, yeah, I know why I
wasn't a starter. Right, It's all these things. There's two
(25:47):
ways to do it. There's you have to find the
guy that is okay, that says, hey, I'm not being able,
I can't increase my brand anymore and I need this show.
And there's not a lot of guys that fall into
that category. If the Jets weren't on Hard Knocks with
Aaron Rodgers, Rogers would be the guy to do that too,
He'd be he'd be the guy because he would want that.
He would say, yes, I'll do it. But he's on
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Hard Knocks right now, and it's it's it's it's free
for him and it's free for the Jets. The only
other way to do it. Netflix has a lot of money.
I know that streaming right now is a thing, and
and we're wondering how many streaming sites are gonna still
be around in the next couple of years, because I'm
sure with all the nine or ten streaming sites now,
some are gonna go away, some are gonna merge, and
and you're gonna wind up seeing a big change over
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the course of the next few years. But Netflix ain't
going anywhere. They got a lot of cash. Money is
what talks. Oh, well you're paying pay me five million
dollars to do that, yo, then then I'll do it. Yeah.
Then you'll get a lot of people. Oh wait, we
have five million dollars. Yeah, sure, then i'll do it.
You gotta cut a check. You cut a check, and
then you're gonna get because money always talks, right and
and and it's not always. It might be a guy. Ope,
(26:50):
this guy. This guy's got a three hundred million dollar contract,
doesn't matter. Five hundred free, five more free million dollars,
He's gonna do it. You will get people that way.
That's the only way to do it. You find people
who needed to increase. There's not a lot of those.
And then you got to say, Okay, here's money for
you guys to do it this year. And I don't
know what people are getting paid for this one. I
have no idea, but you got to really amp it
up if you want to keep people.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
Oh, incentivize people. It's the old story of life. It
goes back to what we were talking about an hour
ago with the Tuoy family and Michael Or and everything else.
Altruism is, you know, a dirty word. Everybody's got their motivations. Hey,
this can make you really a good and build your brand.
By the way, I'm gonna get a bunch of money
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if we get some ratings and we get you on Bud,
it's gonna make me look good.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Due be sure to catch live editions of The Jason
Smith Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern,
seven pm Pacific.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
We have big time quarterback stuff to get to and
we have the latest on hard Knocks. Let's continue our conversation.
We had a few minutes ago about a quarterback first
before we get to the Jets, because with another episode
in the books, there's something for everyone who thinks, oh,
just watch the Jets. So hard dogs just gonna screw
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them over. They're gonna fail. But let's continue on our
conversation we started a few minutes ago. We talked about
a couple of quarterbacks coming into this week off of
Week one that had a lot of debate whether or
not they could be really good in the NFL and
or are they ready right now coming off of what
we saw week one. We got to Bryce Young a
few minutes ago, and I told you he's gonna be fine. Right.
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The Jets defensive line is fantastic. He's going to be
just fine. The other guy getting a lot of hate
is Jordan Love. And part of me, look, I understand
the Jordan Love hate, you know. I mean, look watching
him play this weekend. It's not like Jordan Love was bad.
It just he wasn't as dynamic as you thought Jordan
(28:51):
Love was going to be, Like what did he need
to be?
Speaker 3 (28:53):
Like? He missed that one third down throw right, that
was an awful throw, Okayne, The lob to Dobbs was
a fantastic throw, perfect touch.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
It was no he threw a great pathway is great.
Now the before before I get to why he's gonna
be fine and what everybody is missing about the Packers
after the Aaron Rodgers era is that I get that
it's an impossible bar for him to be up to,
because you're talking about a guy nobody wants to take
over for a quarterback like Aaron Rodgers, right, a first
(29:24):
ballot Hall of Famer who has two, three, maybe four
more Super Bowl victories in his future. You don't want
to take over for that guy, right, nobody wants to.
But this is the way the Packers had it. So
there's an impossible high bar for him where certain members
of the media, NFL, we're going to expect a lot
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fans are going to expect why is he not if
he's supposed to be this good. He's been in the
system now for four years, why is he not giving
us eye popping video game numbers? So part of it
is there's there's a really high bar for him because
of that. So so that that I can blow up
because I understand it, well, all right, those are people
you're never going to to to police, Oh why is
he not? There's always going to be why is he
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not Aaron Rodgers? Why do we get rid of Aaron
Rodgers for him? I get that. But what people don't
understand about Jordan Love and what they don't understand at
all about the Packers. And I feel like it's people
that haven't watched the Packers that are saying, oh, Jordan
Love is this? Is this the Packers have shown you
for the last couple of years. They want to make
a fundamental change to their offense. They no longer want
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to be quarterback driven. They don't want to be at
the whims of their quarterback because they were just at
the whims of their quarterback for a decade plus and
they were done getting off that ride. What did they
do in the last couple of years. They started to
build their team post Aaron Rodgers. They started to build
their team like the forty nine Ers built their team
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a couple of years ago behind a couple of really
good running backs. And we're going to continue to improve
our defense. We're not going to throw the football all
over the field, and we're going to have a different
kind of offense. And that's what the Packers want. They
want to be able to run Aaron Jones and aj
Dillon fifteen times a game. They want to be able
to have Jordan Love throw the football twenty five twenty
(31:13):
six times a game. They want to see him tucket
under and run four or five times a game. That's
what they want. They want the sledgehammer offense that has
a lot of playmakers, and they're starting to they realize, look,
we can't just let wide receivers go and not bring
anybody in. We're starting to address the position a little bit.
You know, whether it's dubs whether you know, second round
this year. They did the last two years with draft picks,
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so they're starting to bring some some wide receivers in.
So I get that, But Jordan Love is not going
to win any passing championships because that's not the offense
the Packers are going to run. They want to run
this kind of offense where Love throws very high percentage passes.
He throws deep now and again, he moves the ball
down the field. Sometimes a drive is going to be
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complete running backs up and down the field, which he
never did that with Aaron Rodgers. But we're gonna do
it that. We're gonna give them more responsibility. Why do
you think they decided to, Hey, let's fix up Aaron Jones'
contract to bring him back. We can't lose him. We can't.
We go. We have a pretty good thing going on
right now. We have to make sure that we put
Jordan Love in the position we want to succeed, because
we got to succeed right away, right the Packers. No,
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we can't just suck for a year because we're just
gonna hear it everywhere, right, We're just gonna take it
in the teeth everywhere we go. This is it. Look
at the Packers. Look how good the Jets are They
got rid of Rogers. The Packers say no, the Packers
want to kind of readjust and reload on the fly.
And this is the offense they've wanted to run. It's
gonna be incredibly different from what you saw with Aaron Rodgers.
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It's gonna be more of a sledgehammer offense, more emphasi
on running the football, more short passes. You're used to
Aaron Rodgers looking downfield every single time he's got the football.
That's just not what they're gonna run. This is not
Jordan Love. This is this is the kind of offense
we're gonna run. Now. Is Jordan Love suited for this
kind of offense? They're kind of square peg round holding it,
which I don't like. I never liked doing that with
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a quarterback. But when you want to say, hey, Jordan Love,
I'm not sure understand that the Packers are making him
run the offense they've wanted to run for the past years.
We are in charge of this offense now, not the quarterback. Right.
They've they've been pissed as hell the last couple of years.
That Basically, Aaron Rodgers has been the head coach or
at least the offensive coordinator for the team. We are
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not having that happen anymore. We are in charge of
all of this. And that's why if you see Jordan
Love doing what he's doing, and hey being kind of
a clutch quarterback, or you know, only throwing the ball
twenty five twenty twenty five times a game, it's because
that's the design, because that's what they want to do.
It's not the shortcomings of the quarterback. It's because this
is the offense we have wanted to run for the
last couple of years.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
Yeah, I think when you get down to it, I
mean we go back to last year and the Packers,
for their part, still ran the ball what fort of
the time when it comes down to it, even with
Aaron Rodgers having his way, and that put them right
in the middle of the NFL in terms of pass
(34:03):
and run distribution. But it's the curiosity going forward of
how much you're going to be able to press. You
look at the schedule and look we strength the schedule stuff.
You always have to hang with a star on it
because well, this isn't last year. Every one of those
teams in theory did something to get better, right, So
(34:24):
he says soft schedule, week, schedule, whatever, and so you
push that aside for Jordan Love, Yeah, I think the
formula should be if you can be fifty five forty
five on the run side and the defense plays up
to the hype. And I think that's the bigger side
of adjacent is that the Packers defense going into last year,
(34:45):
we expected more, or at least I did. I expected
that to be better.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
They did a lot for that.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
They did at defense, so they tried to build it
up and they underperformed in a lot of games. So
if Joe Berry and this defense actually plays to task,
then yes, you're shortening games. And it's a lot more
of the sledgehammer of Dylan seeing the football and Jones
as a runner and receiver out of the backfield right
between them. Last year he had four hundred and eighty
(35:13):
six touches eighty seven receptions between the two of them.
That's a pretty heady number of touches per game. And
the opportunity to grind clock and get out of there
with w's. I think this is a team that's being
slept on. I don't think there's any any need to.
You know, they're not gonna be putting up thirty five
points a game. They're gonna need to. And if Jordan
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Love is efficient and that offensive line holds up in
front of them, I think they're gonna be a team
that's gonna surprise some folks. So he can take all
the negative slings and arrows now people, I don't know
what they wanted to see the other night, Jason, I
really don't like. I thought that the third down throw
was awful, and we were on air and we talked
about it. I mean, you talked about AerR mailing a throw. Well,
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it's one throw, it didn't get intercepted and run back
to the end zone, right, they punted. Then they get
the ball bag, good field position, some penalties, whatever else,
and he and he hits the the lob touchdown. Sure,
it looked like it was in slow motion and it
was just an odd play that seemed to never end.
But in the end he gets the touchdown. Pass all right,
(36:18):
mission accomplished, move on right. Expecting him to come out
and set the world on fire in week one of
a preseason is just foolhardy. And that division who's running
away and hiding right. We like Minnesota? Do we love Minnesota? Okay,
everybody's trending towards Detroit. It's like you getting excited with
the Jets. We've seen this before.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
Yeah, dude, I'm dying to pick the Jets and the
Lions for the Super Bowl. I'm just dying.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
I know you are.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
I'm just die.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
Why don't you bet your house on it?
Speaker 1 (36:46):
Oh Man? Because I don't gamble, That's why.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
Oh but you're so confident you should.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
Well, well, not in the Lions and the Jet Jets. Yeah,
but not in the Lions though, you know the thing
is past now. Pam's a coast signer on the house
with me, so I don't know that I would get hurt.
Say yes, although if I say Jets Lions, I signed Jets,
she signs Lions being from Detroit. Wait a minute, Oh wait,
now maybe that works here a little bit. I bet
we'd be a big story for the entire year. Hey,
(37:12):
radio couple, BET's house on Jets Lions super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
You know what, that's betting on yourself, Jason, because that's
saying that, even if it goes wrong. Rock solid in
your analysis of football and football related things that You're
gonna bounce back and it becomes the great American story.
I like it. I think it works for you. I
think that could be the second season of Quarterback and
(37:37):
the article Mike wouldn't say bet, it would say lose
his house.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
No, wait a minute, what would I get? Because if
I'm betting my house on the Jets Lion super Bowl, like,
I get a lot of stuff if this comes true,
because this is like a long shot super Bowl here,
I get Like what do I get? Like ten houses?
Like what do I get?
Speaker 3 (37:53):
Like?
Speaker 1 (37:53):
What do I get? A fow?
Speaker 3 (37:54):
I mean the payoff? Yeah, you'd you'd be able to
take over JJ abrams house, Okay, probably the rest of
the block, Like you'd be a czar of your own
little mini kingdom.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
Jason, what's your first thing? First thing I'm gonna do
is I'm going to erase the last three Star Wars
movies from the public consciousness. I'm going to scrub them
from all streaming sites, and we're gonna do all brand
new movies.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
No, no, no, you get you get money, you don't and houses,
you don't get mind control. He gets nothing because it's
not gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
I'll get JJ Abrams's job. Then right, if you that's
what I.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
Was, he's still on that task. I think he's moved on.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
I think, yeah, they've moved them on.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
I think he's gone.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
I want to but I want to wipe those movies
off though. I want to want to get rid of
all of them.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
I know a lot of folks do.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
Maybe you know what I could. You know what I
could do, sir, Because I could do this. I could
edit the best parts of the first two movies together
of Force Awakens and Last Jedi, and that could be
one movie.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
That could be one movie. Now, let's take somebody in
one good movie. Let's take some of the best scenes
in add a laugh track. You're a posted bed the
Chosen One.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
No, I mean.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
Come on, it writes it sound.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
Yeah, but I can't go all the way back to
that comment. That's the nineties, man. That and you know,
millennials don't even know what what the what? The prequel
to Star Wars? I wait, the Worth movies? Prequel movies?
What do you mean? Yeah, you know there were three movies.
I mean, no, I can't do that. That that's too much,
it's too difficult.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
Well, and then I mean we can make another iteration
of a cgi job of the hut. Now he's a baby,
so we chronicled the huts from the beginning.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
You do baby job of the hut. Oh, that would
be so great, baby chop of the hut, that would
be awesome. That's the wrong character ty shirt completely, that's
Chewbacca completely, wrongshirt.
Speaker 3 (39:33):
He said he wants to be a baby too. Chill
we wow, we're talking. Let's see that baby wookies.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
We said we will wait to cash.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
We we did, but we need a bigger run.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
Easy choe all right?
Speaker 3 (39:47):
Bringing back the Christmas special.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
Twitter it out about a Fresco Mike gets swollen down
the Jason Smith Show with my best friend and my
carbon So trust me, Jordan Love's gonna be fine. The
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offense that the packers have wanted to run for a
few years. This is on them.
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You could give me another season of ted Lasso and
say it's the best season yet, it wouldn't put the
smile on my face that I have right now. Hbo
on it in front of me. Aaron Rodgers giving thumbs up,
Jets players making plays getting set for episode two of
Hard Knocks. Mike Carmen. I'm just ready to roll.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Did they get any of the incompletions or the ankle
injury from today in? Did they set in?
Speaker 1 (01:15):
He's fine, so don't put stuff out there. That's not true.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
It's true that he was slipping around, he was having
issues and then he was didn't bestin and erratic.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Did he miss the play? He didn't. He didn't miss
a play. He didn't miss a play in practice. It's fine.
Everything is fine. Yes, his calf, Oh, he lit a
little bit. Guess what he didn't miss a snap. Stop
putting stuff out there the other calf. Stop putting stuff
out there. Man, he's gonna end.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Up needing calf replacements.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Man, well, I will cut your cat because you have
pretty good calves. I will cut your calves out while
you sleep and give it to him if I need to.
I just don't think I want.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
I dream the other night before I went out to
Joshua Tree and was hanging out him, like, you know
what if the worst happens, and you know, you get
uh racked up by a coyote and all he did
was rip off my calves, would take a lot of
my identity away.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Are you sure that that was a dream you had
before he went out there.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
No, it was before and then when I was out
there then and then I heard him howling, and it
sounded like they were triangulating and planning an attack.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Problematic, man, the Harry howling around your kitchen door. You
better not let him in. Mike Harmon got mutilated late
last night.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Fear is a terrible thing. And dwarf and rush though,
let me tell you, baby, let's go. Yeah, hard knocks Tuesday.
Lots of greatness across the sporting landscape. I'm one round
closer to the to get another fantasy draft being done
here in mid August. All these great things. It's such
(02:47):
a beautiful day.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Oh man, Well, we'll have more on hard knocks coming
up in a few minutes, because, hey, the Jets activated
bris Salt today. Suddenly they have the best running back
room in the FL. I told you last they just
wasted seven. They took a negative and they turned it
into a positive. They took their biggest weakness and turned
(03:08):
into one of their biggest strengths, the biggest strengths in
the league. You tell me one team that wouldn't trade
their running back room for the Jets running back room
right now, Vin Cook Bristoll, Yeah, you get me those guys.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Let me see. Yeah, I'm feeling all right if I'm Pittsburgh,
I'm all right. Now, come on, guys, true, I mean,
come on.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Naji Harri is gonna lose his job with Jalen Warren
any day. It's gonna happen anything.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Yeah, but you got both of them, so you're feeling
that is true.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
You do have both, So you're.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Feeling pretty good there. I mean, the Ravens just seem
to find a new guy to step up at any moment.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Yeah, but they fall short. These are all guys that
are just guys.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
But is that because the receiver stink and the play
calling got predictable? Jets don't have and they couldn't hit,
you know, big plays when they needed to.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
We don't have guys a steak. We got great receivers.
You've got guys.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
You're talking about the past. I need today.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Everything is wonderful, Everything is happening, Everything is awesome. It's
like having the Lego piece of resistance. It's having it's
having you.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
You're just so another happy Tuesday. It's almost like you're
eating a couple of sandwiches. As we speak.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
I really hope that they get the they get the
Dalvin Cook thing into the end of this one. I
don't know if he will because they're they're opening up
with Oz the Magician and the Mentalist appearing at Jets
camp and all the big video that made the rounds
today that you saw of him doing all these tricks,
kind of like a new age David Blaine. He's doing
all these things at Jets Like. It's opening up with
a big version of that. But I hope at the
(04:37):
end we get a little bit of a hey, oh,
by the way, we got Dalvin Cook.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Did he get cursed out by any of these guys?
Like remember that time David Blaine was trying to do
some trick with Harrison Ford and he cursed him and
called him like a devil and told him to get
out of his house.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
I don't think that happened. Although the Jets have control
over that, they would say, we don't want kicking that
guy out on Uh, we weren't even have that.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
We now brought hit an exorcist.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
But look the other big football story of the DEMI
clear look the Jets are page one. The Michael or
blind Side situation. Just continues to get crazier and crazier.
Remember it was yesterday that Michael Lohr announced he was
filing a suit against The Twoies, the family that adopted
him that became the basis for the book The blind Side,
(05:25):
which turned into the movie The blind Side, which won
Sandra bullockin Academy Award for Best Actress. Football player who
needed a break was kind of down on his luck.
The Twoies adopted him. He wound up going to college
and everything else, playing in the NFL for a decade,
and he is a filing suit against them that they
are that they have kept money from him that they
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made off of his story and the movie The blind Side.
The Twoies had no comment yesterday. This is a shocking
story because, look, The blind Side is one of the
most beloved sports but I told you last night it's
the best sports book I've ever read. And now the
happy ending of it all, and now the impact of
it has gone away because now you have Michael Lore
who is going to try to sue his adoptive parents
(06:07):
or not quite adoptive parents, to try to get money.
At the crux of this is Michael Orr saying that
instead of adopting me. They signed me to a conservatorship
which allowed them to control the money and control my
image and make money off of me today. The two
we's respond by saying that they were victims of a
(06:28):
shakedown that before this happened, Michael Orr called them to
say fifteen million dollars or I will go public with
this and really make your life difficult. The TwUI said no,
Michael laur went public with what he had to say,
and now things are a mess. It's an absolute mess
in this beloved story. It's it's so rough that Sandra
(06:49):
Bullock is getting all kinds of hate like it was
her fault. And she's an actress who was in a
movie she doesn't know. Michael Orr said, I never met
Sandra Bullock. I never met It's not Sandra Bullock's face.
She was a part iner movie. That's all. It is.
All she did to part in the movie. I can't
believe she won for Blindside, probably because she should have
won before, but they didn't give it to her. So
they give it to her for Blindside. Look like I've said,
(07:10):
they give you best Actor Best Actress in the NFL
when they can reward you for your career when you
have made Hollywood a lot of money, it's a lifetime
Achievement award. But she gets to win. And now things
look really weird. And I come back to one thing, Mike,
because you know, we talk about a little bit last night.
Does Michael Lor need money now? Obviously? Right, because here
he is a fifteen million I won't go public now
(07:33):
I want money. I want money from the Twoies, and
it's most likely gonna end with the Two's giving him
some kind of cash. Does Michael Lor need Moneys as
a cash grab? Yeah? Probably. At the same time, are
the Twoies have they made more money than they let on? Yeah?
I think they made a little bit more money than
they let on that they made off of the blind
side in the story. But the main thing I keep
(07:54):
thinking back to, and this is where I was all
day with this, is that if everything was that bad, right,
if if the Twoies were that bad and Michael Orr
was was rooked out of a lot of money, Michael
Lewis would have said something. I mean, this is the guy.
He was there for every single bit of that. He
was there through the entire time when they when when
(08:16):
they lived with him, when they signed him, to a
conservatorship when he was eighteen. He was there through the
entirety of it, so he knows what was signed, he
knows what was done. He wrote the book on this
entire thing, and I keep going back to that if
it was bad, he would be the first guy to say, hey,
wait a minute, now, in my research, this is what
(08:36):
I found or this is what I have here, And
he's not said anything. Now, yeah, could part of it
be Hey, I wrote the book, this is not me.
This is a difficult thing with with Michael and the
twoy'es and and boy, I have love for both of
them because I was there and I really want them
to really work this out. But at the same time,
if something really bad happened, either way, whether it was
you know, Michael or doing this or the twoies, if
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something was really bad about so someone's really making off,
making off, I think Michael Lewis would have said something
because he's never been shy about it before. Look at
the books he writes, you know, he's never been shy
about it. That if it was that bad, and there
was there was so much to this that, oh man,
this is going to rip the lid off of the story.
He would have said something by now, but it's been
two days and he's been silent and he's not said
(09:20):
anything about this.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Yeah, I mean there's a lot going on here, right,
the shakedown allegations, the denials of so much on behalf
of the two wee's. We read the statement that Sean
Tooey had given to a local newspaper yesterday, and so
trying to figure out what the devil in the details
is you talk about Michael Lewis and what he would
(09:42):
have known would have been around. I also, I mean
you got fourteen years of people that have been working
for Michael or as agents, publicists on down the line.
Nobody ever followed any money or tried to figure out
why money wasn't going to come in from a three
hundred million dollar project and what was true, what was imagined,
(10:04):
and what should have been flowing into his accounts. I
mean that that's a dereliction of duty as well. Right,
Obviously he kicked the can down down the road, finished
his career plus seven years, and now you've got a
full team of people we know this. I mean, we've
we've talked to so many players and ex players through
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the years. The number of people that are into your business,
you know, the business of you. They all get paid
based on what's coming in. None of them noticed there
was a problem. Yeah, it's you know, it's yeah, he says.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
You know because when you hear Michael or say say, oh,
I didn't start looking into this until twenty sixteen when
I stopped playing in the NFL. It's taken you seven
years to figure out a conservatorship and not adoption and
what it's taken you seven years to go through that
come on at the same time when the two we
say we made fourteen thousand dollars and a flat fil
come on.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
And I don't think buying any of that.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
I'm not buying. And I know they were.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Moneyed and had they had a lot of other businesses
and everything else that flowed out of that. But the
goodwill out of this and this is always uh where
I come back to you on things. And maybe I'm
just old and cynical at this point. The idea of
altruism to me is like a four letter word. I
don't believe in it. That you don't do everything right.
(11:25):
Your your sole ambition on something is just the goodwill
towards a person, place, or thing. Or an entity. There's
always something in it from you, whether you think you're
buying indulgences in a path to heaven, whether you think
it's just gonna make you look good to your buddies
at the country club or whatever it is you do
with your social circle. Hey, you know what we get
(11:47):
to do? You know, we're part of blah blah blah.
In this case the two He's brought a guy who
was a top notch prospect and developed into a top
notch prospect into Old miss a school that they had
great ties, right, which goes to the conservatorship and the
idea of you've got to be quote family otherwise. You know,
there's problems with the NC DOUBLEA. All of those stories
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come together, so telling you you didn't profit, that, you
didn't benefit from this, but for a couple of measly
thousand dollars, nobody's buying it. It generated you know, it's
the where did all that money go? I mean it's
hundreds of millions of dollars we're generated off this film.
And this is part of why we have these strikes
that we do in Hollywood right now, because everybody wants
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to know where the money goes and this is certainly
a case front and center involving the biggest brand of everything,
the shield of the National Football League and movies and
everything that flowed out of that that people are gonna
want some answers, like if you can get some clarity
out of this boy, I think everybody that writes and
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is around movies and acts in movies they would declare
this a victory too. If suddenly you found a paper
trail to with what the two weies, whatever the result
is right, even if the accounting comes out and there's
not a dime that was misappropriated, lost or whatever that,
you know, just the truth being uh and coming to light,
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would I think be a big win for everybody.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Yeah. I just I just keep thinking that we would
have heard from more. We would especially would have heard
from Michael Lewis on this like it, because he's the
first guy you would call, hey, dude, did you come
through any of this and any of this happen? Because
you know he's got notes, you know, he's got everything,
he's got interviews, he's got all of this. He's got,
Like I said, the guy literally wrote the book on it.
He would have said something if something was really, really bad.
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Now maybe he's looking through going Okay, I want to
see if I can figure this out. I don't know
what's going on here, but this is now two days
and you know that people have called him and if
he really had a solution that could help, I'm sure
he would have, but he hasn't said anything. So this
tells me that, you know, is this gonna wind up
being a nothing burger And it's gonna wind up ending
with the two we's are gonna give Michael Laura a
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one time uh payment undisclosed, and that's gonna and that's
gonna do it, and that'll be it, and they're gonna
be estranged. And this good and this feel good story
that had so many things in it that everybody can
can take something away from. That's why the book was
so good. It was sports, it was not sports, it
was family, it was the foster system of the United States.
It was so many things, you know, and and now
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that that that's going to just break up and be
oh hey, it was a great story for a few years,
and now we now we see what was going on
at the end of it. I mean, I gotta think
that's how it's gonna end. And because if it was
bigger than that, Michael Lewis would have heard from him.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
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Speaker 1 (14:43):
Well, there it is, Week two of Hard Knocks. Is
in the books. The Jets look awesome. They had a
guy there, doctor Oz, who was doing all kinds of
crazy mentalists.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Way, doctor Oz, did you tell him about gut health?
I thought that some kind of supplements to uh work
you through.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Gut Doctors say avoid this vegetable at all costs, and
you click, like, I thought, what am I eating? What
am I not eating?
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Right?
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Then you click to like a thousand things and you go, Okay,
I don't need to do that.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
How come nobody got in any trouble for all the
shilling in false science being perpetrated there or from Phil.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
I think, I think, I think people do get in trouble.
I just think it's something that you know, kind of
goes past.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Take pack those money.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Sure, Uh, but look it's another week, and it's a
big week for the Jets. And look, you've heard a
lot of Aaron Rodgers, who is the front and center
star of Hard Knocks. Right, this is this is obviously
what the Jets have done when they agreed to do
Hard Knocks, or when they were made to do it
by the Jets. Look, we're gonna give you a lot
of Aaron Rodgers. We told you this, and congratulations to
(15:49):
everybody who is now running with the Hey, Aaron Rodgers
really caught. He really wants to push himself and push
his brand. Yes, we told you this months ago. We
told you as soon as they announced that Jets are
Hard Knocks. Of course, Aaron Rodgers and Rogers is going
to be the star because he chose New York for
the brand. He chose the Jets because they were the
team that had the quarterback opening. If the Giants had
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the quarterback opening, he would have gone there. But he
chose New York for the brand, and he is going
to make sure that he gets every ounce of it.
As he launches the next part of his career. He's
going to be seen as being affable, being fun because
after he plays football in a few years, he's going
to want to do TV. He's gonna want to buy things.
He's going to want to do the next level of
his career. So yeah, he's choosing the Jets because of
(16:33):
their brand, right, and it's working out so well for him.
Now here's where this conversation takes a little bit of
a turn. Right. You have Hard Knocks, which has been
a big success so far by anybody's stretch the imagination. Right,
you have Aaron Rodgers on TV and it's been great
so far. Not so great for Quarterback on Netflix, which
got a ton of attention. Everybody's watching that first season
(16:56):
that follows Patrick Mahomes and Kirk Cousins and Marcus Mario
to all through the twenty twenty two season. Don't punch me, dude.
Don't punch me. Don't don't punch me, dude. That's all
I keep thinking my head. Don't punch me, dude, don't
punch me. Why is quarterback finding it so difficult to
find people and find quarterbacks to follow? When you see
(17:18):
Hard Knocks here and Aaron Rodgers is going, hey, he
embraced it. Why can't we get more people to embrace it?
Why would other guys should do it? Look at Mahomes
said yes. Why is everybody saying no? It seems like
every quarterback in the NFL is asked that question over
the course of the preseason and then they go, oh, yeah,
they asked me. I said no, Daniel Jones, Josh Allen, Oh,
they asked me. I said no. Oh, they asked me.
(17:39):
I said no. They asked me, I know. I said no.
I didn't want to do it. I didn't want to
do it. And Peyton Manning's upset, Right, what did he say?
The one word I don't want to hear is distraction.
Jo distracted. Meanwhile, Peyton Manning would never have done that.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
When he was zero chance in hell.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
It's easy for me to say because I know exactly
why quarterback can't find quarterbacks. It's it's it's easy ask
yourself this, What is the win for a quarterback who
says yes to this? What's the win? Right? Hard knocks?
You have to do it right, You have to do it.
And it's coming out great because Aaron Rodgers wants it.
(18:16):
He wants this opening, he wants this visibility. Right. That's
why I understand why it's working out great for everybody.
Aaron Rodgers wants it because he wants to either change
the perception that he has or continue to get keep
his name, and we're not talking about any other NFL
player like we talk about Aaron Rodgers. Right, that's what
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he wanted. Tell me another quarterback who after watching the
Netflix series is going to say I want to sign
up for it. Right, it's a no win situation. Mahomes
did it probably because he was bored. Yeah, sure, out
of cry of won a super Bowl. What do I care?
You know, all you're going to see is what it's
like to be a big time super duper star. And
you get stuff like don't punch me, dude, don't punch But.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
That's it if he's weird, if he's like any of
that stuff, right, the don't punch me's the stuff with
Crosby a lot of little interactions like that. You just say,
all right, he's a winner, so the he's a bit
of odd and you shrug and you move on.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
It doesn't look like the guy's legacy. Nothing can hurt.
So that's okay. So he does this one. Now the
other two guys, all right, Kirk Cousins, It's been really
interesting to see Kirk Cousins. But how does Kirk Cousins
come off? Does he come off a little weird and
a little odd, and things come off a little awkward
with how he handles being quarterback. Yeah, you know, it's
(19:36):
not just about stuff. Oh, I got a hidden room
in my house that has all my football stuff in it.
It's a hidden room under the stairs, like where Harry potters.
So you know that's a good move. Though.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
There's a lot of value in what's in that room,
so I mean, you gotta keep it hidden.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
But overall, you know, hey, I want you to see
who I am. Okay, Yeah, little weird, little awkward. I
don't think it does wonders for him as being a leader,
being a quarterback. And Marcus Mariota, what do we say, Hey,
all we're seeing is why he shouldn't have been a
number one quarterback from the Falcons right away. We watched
his whole season go the way it did wind up,
leaving the team crazy stuff happening. There was no win
(20:11):
there for Mariota. There was no there's no win for
Kirk Cousins. There's some kind of win for Mahomes because
it doesn't matter because his legacy is bulletproof and you
have Rogers doing hard knocks. Who wants to have that
out there? Any other quarterback that wants to increase their
brand can do it in a less risky way. Then
(20:32):
you're gonna follow me and put all my good and
bad moments on television. Because make no mista, people say,
evil media, evil media. I go just stop with this.
But you know, hey, you do something bad or something
that's making it on television. Right, So there's less risky
ways for quarterbacks who want to get their brand out
there to be able to do it. Then say hey,
I'm going to give you the rights to put whatever
(20:53):
you want to on Quarterback on Netflix. When you think
about it that way, you understand why people are saying, no,
what's Josh Allen's win? I mean's you're gonna get another
Wegman's endorsement if he goes on If he goes on
television and does it. What's the win for Daniel Jones?
All Right, the spotlight is on it and he fails,
boy spectacularly failed. What's the win? I don't get the
win for a lot of quarterbacks. If you're trying to
(21:15):
establish yourself, you can wind up really hurting yourself because hey,
we get to see that you're not ready for the moment.
If you're somebody trying to win a championship, and you can't.
There's too many bad things that can happen. There's not
enough good. And when you don't have control over what's
going out there, and you get that, Hey, I have
pr people working for me, I have agents working for me.
(21:37):
I got a lot of people that are helping out
getting my name out there, getting me commercials, getting me
interviews that I want to have, or you know, making
sure my charity is getting taken care of, and I'm
doing things in the community. There's much less risky ways
to do it. So I completely get why the quarterbacks
are saying no, because I don't see the win for
the vast majority of them.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
Yeah, I mean with Kirk Cousins, we already knew he
was a bit quirky. We'll always have you like that,
that'll live on forever. And look, we know his history,
we know his family history. You got people delving into
that a little bit more as you get into his
upbringing and how you know he is and how he acts,
and so he was more relatable. I think folks just
(22:19):
like the button down, put on the glasses and hang
out family man. Whatever.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
There.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
I mean, there's some good to be done. For him,
So I think net Kirk Cousins wins, Marcus Mariota. We
know how the season ended, so you already knew, all right,
at some point this is turning, and so you watch
that start to spiral a bit for most of the
quarterbacks as you say, you got you gotta find the win, right.
(22:46):
Whenever we go through and we're picking out stories and
things we want to discuss and entertain and inform you
about here on the show, a lot of it comes
back to the what's the win in doing a story?
Some of them it's just all right, it should be
left for a news update or a passing comment just
to acknowledge something is transpired, and then you move forward.
(23:08):
In this case, for a lot of these quarterbacks that
are trying to form their identity, it's not confined to
training camp, right, this is a full year with you
and your family and your other family. May you think
Aaron Rodgers are doing this if it's in the vein
of quarterback, Hey, we're gonna need you at least one
appearance by members of your family. You think that's going over, Well, no,
(23:32):
no it's not. We're gonna have Hey, you know what, Aaron,
we invited all of your extended family to come to camp,
and it's gonna be a family reunion. Before we get
into the preseason opener. Is that a family?
Speaker 1 (23:42):
What did you say family? Did you say family? Now
you can't that's a trigger word right then, can't bring
that up.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
But you see what I mean. It's it's in terms
of hard knocks. It is a four to five week
period where you've gone to camp. And yes, you get
little feel good stories and Aaron Rodgers, the great tourist.
We had Sauce Gardner in episode one going and graduating,
so you get some of that, but pretty quickly it's
all just about the work that's being put in the
(24:10):
meetings and everything going through, getting timing down, the communication
between players and coaches, a couple of colorful back and forth,
you know, in terms of these joint practices and the
preseason games or whatever. The Quarterback Show is just so
far reaching, plenty of times to catch you in a
bad moment and you don't have the editorial control because
you're not with the team. Is not doing this right.
(24:34):
It's not a battle to where it's like all right,
I get artistic, I get final edit right, like I'm
a director with some clout no, no, no, no, you
can't go and screw up my movie. I get to
put out what I want. No, these quarterbacks are at
the wins, So if they have a bad moment, even
if it's out at a family outing, you know, all
those things Mahomes was doing. He's he's getting shown up
(24:57):
by his wife, throwing, knocking down bottles at the fair
and all that stuff. Like what if he just started
cursing and losing his mind instead of laughing about it.
I mean that could go really sideways for someone that's
not Patrick Mahomes. Yeah, it's like there's so many of
those moments that could potentially sabotage. And certainly as the
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season goes on, what are they gonna do. They're gonna
go for the most salacious little reactions and eyebrow raises
and side eye that you can possibly find.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Yeah, so the only way to do it is one
of two things. Right, because it's a good show. I
Like I said, I'm stunned the people decided to do
it right. Maybe because hey, Peyton Manning's in charge of it.
I feel like I trust Peyton Manning And it's not
like these guys are coming out of it looking terrible,
you know, Kirk, Like I said, Kirk Cousins looks weird,
and Marcus Murray looks like, yeah, I know why I
wasn't a starter. Right, It's all these things. There's two
(25:47):
ways to do it. There's you have to find the
guy that is okay, that says, hey, I'm not being able,
I can't increase my brand anymore and I need this show.
And there's not a lot of guys that fall into
that category. If the Jets weren't on Hard Knocks with
Aaron Rodgers, Rogers would be the guy to do that too,
He'd be he'd be the guy because he would want that.
He would say, yes, I'll do it. But he's on
(26:07):
Hard Knocks right now, and it's it's it's it's free
for him and it's free for the Jets. The only
other way to do it. Netflix has a lot of money.
I know that streaming right now is a thing, and
and we're wondering how many streaming sites are gonna still
be around in the next couple of years, because I'm
sure with all the nine or ten streaming sites now,
some are gonna go away, some are gonna merge, and
and you're gonna wind up seeing a big change over
(26:29):
the course of the next few years. But Netflix ain't
going anywhere. They got a lot of cash. Money is
what talks. Oh, well you're paying pay me five million
dollars to do that, yo, then then I'll do it. Yeah.
Then you'll get a lot of people. Oh wait, we
have five million dollars. Yeah, sure, then i'll do it.
You gotta cut a check. You cut a check, and
then you're gonna get because money always talks, right and
and and it's not always. It might be a guy. Ope,
(26:50):
this guy. This guy's got a three hundred million dollar contract,
doesn't matter. Five hundred free, five more free million dollars,
He's gonna do it. You will get people that way.
That's the only way to do it. You find people
who needed to increase. There's not a lot of those.
And then you got to say, Okay, here's money for
you guys to do it this year. And I don't
know what people are getting paid for this one. I
have no idea, but you got to really amp it
up if you want to keep people.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
Oh, incentivize people. It's the old story of life. It
goes back to what we were talking about an hour
ago with the Tuoy family and Michael Or and everything else.
Altruism is, you know, a dirty word. Everybody's got their motivations. Hey,
this can make you really a good and build your brand.
By the way, I'm gonna get a bunch of money
(27:30):
if we get some ratings and we get you on Bud,
it's gonna make me look good.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Due be sure to catch live editions of The Jason
Smith Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern,
seven pm Pacific.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
We have big time quarterback stuff to get to and
we have the latest on hard Knocks. Let's continue our conversation.
We had a few minutes ago about a quarterback first
before we get to the Jets, because with another episode
in the books, there's something for everyone who thinks, oh,
just watch the Jets. So hard dogs just gonna screw
(28:05):
them over. They're gonna fail. But let's continue on our
conversation we started a few minutes ago. We talked about
a couple of quarterbacks coming into this week off of
Week one that had a lot of debate whether or
not they could be really good in the NFL and
or are they ready right now coming off of what
we saw week one. We got to Bryce Young a
few minutes ago, and I told you he's gonna be fine. Right.
(28:27):
The Jets defensive line is fantastic. He's going to be
just fine. The other guy getting a lot of hate
is Jordan Love. And part of me, look, I understand
the Jordan Love hate, you know. I mean, look watching
him play this weekend. It's not like Jordan Love was bad.
It just he wasn't as dynamic as you thought Jordan
(28:51):
Love was going to be, Like what did he need
to be?
Speaker 3 (28:53):
Like? He missed that one third down throw right, that
was an awful throw, Okayne, The lob to Dobbs was
a fantastic throw, perfect touch.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
It was no he threw a great pathway is great.
Now the before before I get to why he's gonna
be fine and what everybody is missing about the Packers
after the Aaron Rodgers era is that I get that
it's an impossible bar for him to be up to,
because you're talking about a guy nobody wants to take
over for a quarterback like Aaron Rodgers, right, a first
(29:24):
ballot Hall of Famer who has two, three, maybe four
more Super Bowl victories in his future. You don't want
to take over for that guy, right, nobody wants to.
But this is the way the Packers had it. So
there's an impossible high bar for him where certain members
of the media, NFL, we're going to expect a lot
(29:45):
fans are going to expect why is he not if
he's supposed to be this good. He's been in the
system now for four years, why is he not giving
us eye popping video game numbers? So part of it
is there's there's a really high bar for him because
of that. So so that that I can blow up
because I understand it, well, all right, those are people
you're never going to to to police, Oh why is
he not? There's always going to be why is he
(30:06):
not Aaron Rodgers? Why do we get rid of Aaron
Rodgers for him? I get that. But what people don't
understand about Jordan Love and what they don't understand at
all about the Packers. And I feel like it's people
that haven't watched the Packers that are saying, oh, Jordan
Love is this? Is this the Packers have shown you
for the last couple of years. They want to make
a fundamental change to their offense. They no longer want
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to be quarterback driven. They don't want to be at
the whims of their quarterback because they were just at
the whims of their quarterback for a decade plus and
they were done getting off that ride. What did they
do in the last couple of years. They started to
build their team post Aaron Rodgers. They started to build
their team like the forty nine Ers built their team
(30:51):
a couple of years ago behind a couple of really
good running backs. And we're going to continue to improve
our defense. We're not going to throw the football all
over the field, and we're going to have a different
kind of offense. And that's what the Packers want. They
want to be able to run Aaron Jones and aj
Dillon fifteen times a game. They want to be able
to have Jordan Love throw the football twenty five twenty
(31:13):
six times a game. They want to see him tucket
under and run four or five times a game. That's
what they want. They want the sledgehammer offense that has
a lot of playmakers, and they're starting to they realize, look,
we can't just let wide receivers go and not bring
anybody in. We're starting to address the position a little bit.
You know, whether it's dubs whether you know, second round
this year. They did the last two years with draft picks,
(31:35):
so they're starting to bring some some wide receivers in.
So I get that, But Jordan Love is not going
to win any passing championships because that's not the offense
the Packers are going to run. They want to run
this kind of offense where Love throws very high percentage passes.
He throws deep now and again, he moves the ball
down the field. Sometimes a drive is going to be
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complete running backs up and down the field, which he
never did that with Aaron Rodgers. But we're gonna do
it that. We're gonna give them more responsibility. Why do
you think they decided to, Hey, let's fix up Aaron Jones'
contract to bring him back. We can't lose him. We can't.
We go. We have a pretty good thing going on
right now. We have to make sure that we put
Jordan Love in the position we want to succeed, because
we got to succeed right away, right the Packers. No,
(32:18):
we can't just suck for a year because we're just
gonna hear it everywhere, right, We're just gonna take it
in the teeth everywhere we go. This is it. Look
at the Packers. Look how good the Jets are They
got rid of Rogers. The Packers say no, the Packers
want to kind of readjust and reload on the fly.
And this is the offense they've wanted to run. It's
gonna be incredibly different from what you saw with Aaron Rodgers.
(32:39):
It's gonna be more of a sledgehammer offense, more emphasi
on running the football, more short passes. You're used to
Aaron Rodgers looking downfield every single time he's got the football.
That's just not what they're gonna run. This is not
Jordan Love. This is this is the kind of offense
we're gonna run. Now. Is Jordan Love suited for this
kind of offense? They're kind of square peg round holding it,
which I don't like. I never liked doing that with
(33:00):
a quarterback. But when you want to say, hey, Jordan Love,
I'm not sure understand that the Packers are making him
run the offense they've wanted to run for the past years.
We are in charge of this offense now, not the quarterback. Right.
They've they've been pissed as hell the last couple of years.
That Basically, Aaron Rodgers has been the head coach or
at least the offensive coordinator for the team. We are
(33:20):
not having that happen anymore. We are in charge of
all of this. And that's why if you see Jordan
Love doing what he's doing, and hey being kind of
a clutch quarterback, or you know, only throwing the ball
twenty five twenty twenty five times a game, it's because
that's the design, because that's what they want to do.
It's not the shortcomings of the quarterback. It's because this
is the offense we have wanted to run for the
last couple of years.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
Yeah, I think when you get down to it, I
mean we go back to last year and the Packers,
for their part, still ran the ball what fort of
the time when it comes down to it, even with
Aaron Rodgers having his way, and that put them right
in the middle of the NFL in terms of pass
(34:03):
and run distribution. But it's the curiosity going forward of
how much you're going to be able to press. You
look at the schedule and look we strength the schedule stuff.
You always have to hang with a star on it
because well, this isn't last year. Every one of those
teams in theory did something to get better, right, So
(34:24):
he says soft schedule, week, schedule, whatever, and so you
push that aside for Jordan Love, Yeah, I think the
formula should be if you can be fifty five forty
five on the run side and the defense plays up
to the hype. And I think that's the bigger side
of adjacent is that the Packers defense going into last year,
(34:45):
we expected more, or at least I did. I expected
that to be better.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
They did a lot for that.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
They did at defense, so they tried to build it
up and they underperformed in a lot of games. So
if Joe Berry and this defense actually plays to task,
then yes, you're shortening games. And it's a lot more
of the sledgehammer of Dylan seeing the football and Jones
as a runner and receiver out of the backfield right
between them. Last year he had four hundred and eighty
(35:13):
six touches eighty seven receptions between the two of them.
That's a pretty heady number of touches per game. And
the opportunity to grind clock and get out of there
with w's. I think this is a team that's being
slept on. I don't think there's any any need to.
You know, they're not gonna be putting up thirty five
points a game. They're gonna need to. And if Jordan
(35:35):
Love is efficient and that offensive line holds up in
front of them, I think they're gonna be a team
that's gonna surprise some folks. So he can take all
the negative slings and arrows now people, I don't know
what they wanted to see the other night, Jason, I
really don't like. I thought that the third down throw
was awful, and we were on air and we talked
about it. I mean, you talked about AerR mailing a throw. Well,
(35:56):
it's one throw, it didn't get intercepted and run back
to the end zone, right, they punted. Then they get
the ball bag, good field position, some penalties, whatever else,
and he and he hits the the lob touchdown. Sure,
it looked like it was in slow motion and it
was just an odd play that seemed to never end.
But in the end he gets the touchdown. Pass all right,
(36:18):
mission accomplished, move on right. Expecting him to come out
and set the world on fire in week one of
a preseason is just foolhardy. And that division who's running
away and hiding right. We like Minnesota? Do we love Minnesota? Okay,
everybody's trending towards Detroit. It's like you getting excited with
the Jets. We've seen this before.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
Yeah, dude, I'm dying to pick the Jets and the
Lions for the Super Bowl. I'm just dying.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
I know you are.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
I'm just die.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
Why don't you bet your house on it?
Speaker 1 (36:46):
Oh Man? Because I don't gamble, That's why.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
Oh but you're so confident you should.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
Well, well, not in the Lions and the Jet Jets. Yeah,
but not in the Lions though, you know the thing
is past now. Pam's a coast signer on the house
with me, so I don't know that I would get hurt.
Say yes, although if I say Jets Lions, I signed Jets,
she signs Lions being from Detroit. Wait a minute, Oh wait,
now maybe that works here a little bit. I bet
we'd be a big story for the entire year. Hey,
(37:12):
radio couple, BET's house on Jets Lions super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
You know what, that's betting on yourself, Jason, because that's
saying that, even if it goes wrong. Rock solid in
your analysis of football and football related things that You're
gonna bounce back and it becomes the great American story.
I like it. I think it works for you. I
think that could be the second season of Quarterback and
(37:37):
the article Mike wouldn't say bet, it would say lose
his house.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
No, wait a minute, what would I get? Because if
I'm betting my house on the Jets Lion super Bowl, like,
I get a lot of stuff if this comes true,
because this is like a long shot super Bowl here,
I get Like what do I get? Like ten houses?
Like what do I get?
Speaker 3 (37:53):
Like?
Speaker 1 (37:53):
What do I get? A fow?
Speaker 3 (37:54):
I mean the payoff? Yeah, you'd you'd be able to
take over JJ abrams house, Okay, probably the rest of
the block, Like you'd be a czar of your own
little mini kingdom.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
Jason, what's your first thing? First thing I'm gonna do
is I'm going to erase the last three Star Wars
movies from the public consciousness. I'm going to scrub them
from all streaming sites, and we're gonna do all brand
new movies.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
No, no, no, you get you get money, you don't and houses,
you don't get mind control. He gets nothing because it's
not gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
I'll get JJ Abrams's job. Then right, if you that's
what I.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
Was, he's still on that task. I think he's moved on.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
I think, yeah, they've moved them on.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
I think he's gone.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
I want to but I want to wipe those movies
off though. I want to want to get rid of
all of them.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
I know a lot of folks do.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
Maybe you know what I could. You know what I
could do, sir, Because I could do this. I could
edit the best parts of the first two movies together
of Force Awakens and Last Jedi, and that could be
one movie.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
That could be one movie. Now, let's take somebody in
one good movie. Let's take some of the best scenes
in add a laugh track. You're a posted bed the
Chosen One.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
No, I mean.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
Come on, it writes it sound.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
Yeah, but I can't go all the way back to
that comment. That's the nineties, man. That and you know,
millennials don't even know what what the what? The prequel
to Star Wars? I wait, the Worth movies? Prequel movies?
What do you mean? Yeah, you know there were three movies.
I mean, no, I can't do that. That that's too much,
it's too difficult.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
Well, and then I mean we can make another iteration
of a cgi job of the hut. Now he's a baby,
so we chronicled the huts from the beginning.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
You do baby job of the hut. Oh, that would
be so great, baby chop of the hut, that would
be awesome. That's the wrong character ty shirt completely, that's
Chewbacca completely, wrongshirt.
Speaker 3 (39:33):
He said he wants to be a baby too. Chill
we wow, we're talking. Let's see that baby wookies.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
We said we will wait to cash.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
We we did, but we need a bigger run.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
Easy choe all right?
Speaker 3 (39:47):
Bringing back the Christmas special.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
Twitter it out about a Fresco Mike gets swollen down
the Jason Smith Show with my best friend and my
carbon So trust me, Jordan Love's gonna be fine. The
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few years. This is on them.
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