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August 17, 2023 33 mins

We’ve officially found Jason Smith’s burner account. Longtime NFL Insider Jason Cole swings by from all the latest on the Jets, Trey Lance and training camp fights. Plus, the ONE coach who could get Rob Gronkowski to come out of retirement!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
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Speaker 1 (00:28):
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bit of a moment today, Mike where I realize I
had a bit of reflection where I said, am I

(00:57):
really too over the top? With the jet and the
Super Bowl and everything else going on?

Speaker 2 (01:02):
Am I?

Speaker 1 (01:02):
Am I really over the top? And I don't mean
today where oh, the offensive line didn't look good and
after practice Aaron Rodgers had to say, relax, the offensive
line is fine, Now I get every day the Jets
are a storyline on page news every single day. I
understand that now.

Speaker 3 (01:19):
I mean he's going to lie to you day. It's
all good.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
Relax, everything is all good. You would your Bears would
trade your problems for the jets problems in a sad
I'm telling you, Jets only have one problem.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
Hey, what have you heard about the Bears?

Speaker 1 (01:33):
Gota. We got to figure out who the offensive tackles are.
We got we got, we got four to figure.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
Out how much to build justin fields for MVP three.
Nobody's talking about the tackles. Nobody's talking about anything on
either side.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
World lie all about the MVP and justin fields and
a tiny bit of you know, they may build a
new park somewhere that may be moving at some point.
We get that Yearly story as well. They might move.
The Bears could move.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
The Bears, well they should.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
It's kind of like become the the the Yearly. Hey,
if if Team X doesn't get the stadium deal they want,
they're gonna move to Los Angeles. That's become the Bears.
The Bears could move to Arlington, All the Bears could
move to somewhere else in Illinois. The Bears could move here,
the Bears can move to Champagne Urbana, they could move anywhere.
I don't know all I said Champagne Urbana like I
was trying to be funny.

Speaker 3 (02:23):
Oh okay, just no, I know it's Champagne is otherwise,
you know for that, I know, I know not good
for business.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
I know it's her better. I just said Urbana because
I felt like saying that's.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
Kind of what they deserve too.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
Although they need to hire Jim Leonard. Wow, I mean
that's a nice little addition to the staff.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
Well, their secondary will be very good by adding Jim Leonard,
and their punt return will be well, they'll be pretty
good too.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
They got no question about it.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
Yeah, And then look that the Bears should move because
then they don't have to worry about their fields sucking
because of the park district and the number of tractor
pulls that can be had ahead of a Sunday home game.
But I digressed. The answer is is, yes, you are
over the top, and I say you.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
Should be, but you actually it's not.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
You know, it could all be false, hope, but at
least on the surface, everything points to the Jets having
a successful season. Now, given the history, given the football gods,
the answer means something catastrophic is gonna happen along the
way to flip this on its head, and we will
be here at a chronicle every minute of it. But

(03:26):
for now, you can try to dismiss the tackle position.
You can try to talk about Hey, it's just practice,
it doesn't matter. That's all good. And I like when
you're hyped and you're feeling good. I'm your best friend.
I want you to be happy. But then when your
team sucks, just like mine does where we're you know, kindred.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
Spirits, I thank you for that.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
But look, hope's a dangerous thing. Though I was, I
was a first guy to tell you thing as well
as anybody.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
Look, I was the first guy to tell you I
like the Bears to win the division this year. I mean,
everybody's going crazy about the line, But Bears made a
lot of improvements, man, watch out. And not just because hey,
hey they you know every pass justin Field's throw in
for a sixty five yard touchdown this past weekend. But
the Bears made a lot of improvements. Man, they did
a lot of good things in.

Speaker 3 (04:12):
The Yeah, I mean, you know, my feeling on in
the passes and getting quarterbacks credit doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
Is it anything?

Speaker 4 (04:19):
Right?

Speaker 2 (04:20):
No?

Speaker 3 (04:20):
I no, exactly, I know one hundred percent. Just it
was funny and the narrative of the plays until people
saw the plays. Now they still have hype for justin fields,
but you recognize the receivers have said passes really had
to do a lot of work to make it happen.
Not to mention on one of them, you had no
fewer than two offensive linemen fifteen yards down the field

(04:43):
where in season there's a flag flying from somewhere to
bring it back.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
Here's why I believe that I'm a little bit over
the top now and maybe maybe I got to question
myself a little bit and sometimes left They always say that, Hey,
you know, children are the ones who always will they'll
they'll know, uh, they'll never pull the wool over your eyes.
I'll always they'll tell you the truth.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
So today they're all a bunch of liars.

Speaker 3 (05:07):
Wow, I mean I like that kids just like the
children bake of the children. They're pure of heart.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
Now, apparently someone's oldest took the car without asking last night,
went in a big joy ride to the.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
She has her own car. She she can do whatever
the helse she watched. Hey, look, I'm just saying the
little Jason Smith, he stole a mailbox for crying out.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
Don't tell me about children. How do I steal if.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
I put it back?

Speaker 2 (05:35):
I can't. I didn't steal if I put it back?
Did you displace it and take it?

Speaker 1 (05:39):
Displacing is a word?

Speaker 2 (05:40):
Yes, displace?

Speaker 3 (05:41):
You have possession of said mail box?

Speaker 2 (05:43):
How long?

Speaker 1 (05:44):
How long do I doesn't mean when I have possession
of it?

Speaker 3 (05:48):
Eight seconds?

Speaker 1 (05:49):
Where do you get eight seconds from well eight Perry movie?
Maybe it's ten, maybe it's ten hours.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
No, can you get to eight seconds?

Speaker 2 (05:57):
Riding the bull? You get credit?

Speaker 5 (06:00):
Can you touch somebody else's mail? You're done?

Speaker 1 (06:02):
No?

Speaker 2 (06:02):
No, no, the mail, not the male mail in there.
You don't know that there wasn't mail in There was
no mail.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
I checked.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
There was no mail again. I mean that's a federal
crime part too.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
There was no mail. Not on a Sunday. You got
multiple felony. No mail on a Sunday, Yes, there is
I trust you about anything. Nope, nope, not on a Sunday.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
Doesn't I got to change all my credit cards. That'd
be random sandwiches and jets merchandise ordered.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
So today Pam and I and Zoe are out at Pavilions.
We're grocery shopping and you and Frostburg send me the
video of this guy online who put this video up
of himself running through his back a huge backyard, running
through his backyard with like a makeshift He looks like
green Man, right, So he's dressed like Green Man. Everything's

(06:51):
in green, like green Nye line everything, and he's got
shoulder pads and a green Jets helmet on. And he
runs around the corner of a set of bushes and
he runs towards the camera and he starts screaming about
the Jets and Dalvin Cook in the Super Bowl. So
you sent me this. It was just some random video
on Twitter. And let's play a little bit of it
for you, just so you get exactly what this video

(07:11):
is all about.

Speaker 5 (07:12):
Actually, your Burner account, this was actually you. I don't
know why you're trying to say it's somebody else.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
It's not me, But play a little bit of it
so we can hear a little bit of the of
this guy.

Speaker 6 (07:22):
Not try where on a Super Bowl since nineteen sixty nine,
David Dumble their position, But now down like cooks in
halfs that cap where well in the Super Bowl? Not
that's stopping us auron Rogers State.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
Okay, so this is the guy's les and he goes
for another like ten seconds and he starts cursing.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
Right, he's just mad Frank got all the thunder.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
So your maybe he's trying to be Frank the Tank
for the Jets. That's what he's trying to do. He's
trying to be I think.

Speaker 3 (07:53):
He saw perks and freebies and everything, and he's trying
to get on that gravy train.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
Frank the Tank is going a minor league ballparks and
doing it appearances I could be the Jets Frank the Tank.
So this guy shows up and does he's just yelling.
He's wearing like makeshift football uniform and he's yelling all this. Right,
So I'm watching the video and I'm watching on my
phone because because Pam and Zoe are are are I
forget what I we were in, but I was like
I was around the corner for them. And I'm watching

(08:18):
this video and I'm listening to it and I'm laughing,
and Zoe comes.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
Off their position as he's breathing very heavy it's you heavy.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
So I'm watching this and I'm laughing and Zoe and
you can hear it because I have the volume up
so I can hear it in the store and and
I hear it, and Zoe comes over and she hears it,
and she's smiling. She was She goes and I go,
I go what. She goes, Oh my god, Dad, is
that you doing something?

Speaker 2 (08:47):
Yeah? Down like cock that.

Speaker 6 (08:51):
House cap where b And I said no, I said, wait,
that sounds like look at this guy.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
And she goes, oh no, I couldn't see it. I
just I just heard it.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
I thought it was you, and I thought I thought,
like Justin or Mike sent you something they didn't put online.
I go, no, that's some guy in his backyard just
screaming about the Jets. And then I thought, oh, wait
a second, there's there's something pretty familiar right there.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
As soon as I said, it's.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
Just some guy in his backyard screaming about the Jets,
and I thought, if you replace backyard with radio, that's me.
I mean, that's why I just replaced backyard with radio.
That's me. So maybe maybe I'm a little bit too
crazed about this, a little bit too over the top.
The fact that my own daughter comes up to is
that you Dad, that you. It sounds like you.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
It could be you.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
Yeah, I have some content ideas for football. We'll kick around.
When next week convene, I'll start writing on the whiteboard.
But no, I like the positivity. It's it's an exciting time.
I like that that Zoe recognizes that, you know, you're
on the lunatic fringe of this kind of stuff. My
daughter's recognize it too.

Speaker 6 (10:00):
Down like cocks that half cap where in a Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
I love how out of breath the guy gets.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
He ran, he ran what about fifty yards?

Speaker 2 (10:13):
He did? Run about fifty yards before he starts.

Speaker 3 (10:16):
Telling him running running around the corners. That's a lot
of property.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
This is one of those guys. You go, boy, who
is that guy? He's going to turn out to be
like the biggest tech hedge fund guy. Oh I got
more money than Steve Cohen.

Speaker 3 (10:28):
Oh or he just lives in a place where land
is cheap still exists. All of us in our career
were jaded by what the Southern California housing and land
prices have gone to us. But uh, there there is
opportunity out there. I mean, you could have a backyard
somewhere Smith where you could put the Jets logo out

(10:49):
there if you really wanted to. I mean, you could
do it on your lawnmower and get that done.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
Handicaps.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
Uh so wait, so waite Frostburg's telling me that that
that that that's actually doing.

Speaker 5 (11:00):
Messing with me.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
You know, I didn't know who that was. No, who
was it it was? It wasn't just again, was that
not cheap? That's New York City. This guy's backyard is humongous.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
Okay, who is it?

Speaker 5 (11:09):
He's one of the biggest handicappers.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
In the world, Stuart Finer is really he's a barstool, now,
is he written?

Speaker 2 (11:15):
So that's that?

Speaker 1 (11:16):
Is that?

Speaker 2 (11:17):
So?

Speaker 1 (11:17):
Then absolutely he's taking Frank the Tanks gig for because
that's what Frank the Tank is.

Speaker 5 (11:21):
He's at bars for the throne. Yep.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
That guy's a big handicapper and he's got that kind
of house and that kind of property, and he's dressed
up as green man running through his backyard.

Speaker 3 (11:30):
Screaming about there you go. He is the source that
you could dial him up. Now my two team parlay
up my life.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
I did not know that. I just thought it was
some dude. Really, I just thought it was some guy
because you said some stupid ass videos like that all
the time.

Speaker 3 (11:48):
Known as the source, claiming to be the basis for
the al Pacino and two for the Money, the Great
movie with Matthew mo it.

Speaker 5 (11:57):
Was based off of him.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
It was based on it.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
It was because McConaughey was the star, right, and then
al Pacina like tried to bring him in.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
Boss like he tried to bring him. Is like, hey,
come on and then be a handicap with me.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
Okay, because I don't think I ever saw the movie
all the way through.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
No, it's a pretty good movie. I'm a big fan
of it. Okay.

Speaker 5 (12:13):
You just don't get a backyard like that in New York.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
No, that's what That's what I said.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
I thought whoever it was had a lot of money
because it looks like it's a it's landscaped.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
It's huge.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
Well, I mean you can mow the lawn.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
Yeah no, but no, but you could just tell it
looks pretty big, looks like one of those oh boy,
there's a you know, there's a house with columns on it.
That's what it looks like. Hey, just out of just
out of frame, as a big pool and there's columns,
well like it's Hurst castle you're expecting to see on
the other side of it.

Speaker 3 (12:39):
Are you gonna have any girafts or anything come running
out of there?

Speaker 2 (12:42):
I mean maybe there are.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
I don't know, who knows.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
I didn't know that David.

Speaker 6 (12:46):
Their position down that house cap where in a Super.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
Bowl makes me want to go bet with him right now.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
I want to go running back.

Speaker 5 (12:57):
Why the hell that guy's a Jets fan? I have
no idea.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
Ah.

Speaker 3 (13:01):
I mean, look, you go and attach yourself to a
crap team and then eventually when they win, you could
be one of the people that was there at the beginning.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
Right but everybody else Johnny Mike where he can have
that surgery to have the Jets taken out?

Speaker 3 (13:17):
Oh that's true, that's true. Can't have that part of
your brain fix? That is true?

Speaker 1 (13:23):
Dad?

Speaker 2 (13:23):
Is that you?

Speaker 5 (13:24):
Dad?

Speaker 2 (13:24):
Is that you?

Speaker 1 (13:25):
It sounds like you. Thanks szlle, thank you, Twitter a
U about a Fresco Mike get swollen ose? So again,
just so you know, Okay, if you think I'm a
little bit out of control, I kind of understand a
little bit. After seeing that video and maybe getting a
mirror held up to my face, I understand that.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
Well joining us now on the hotline, no one better
to break down the heat of the preseason, what could
be next to quarterback for a couple of teams, and more.
He is a longtime NFL insider and a long time
haul of very Good Good voter. He is on Twitter
at Jason Cole sixty two. It is the aforementioned Jason Cole.
What's happened to j Cole?

Speaker 4 (14:08):
Life is awesome? What's going on with you guys?

Speaker 5 (14:11):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (14:12):
Dude?

Speaker 1 (14:12):
Everything is great. The Jets are great, Hard knocks is great.
We're gonna go fourteen and three. It's it's everything is outstanding.
It's fantastic. Life is great.

Speaker 4 (14:21):
Right now, how's that calf? How's your calf?

Speaker 1 (14:24):
Everything is he didn't miss a play? Didn't miss a play?

Speaker 4 (14:29):
You're not you're not You're not worried at all.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
You didn't miss a play.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
No, because if it happens, I could just say this
is this is how it goes for the Jets.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
But right now, everything is great. Everything is awesome.

Speaker 4 (14:40):
Yeh wait until he grabs that calf in week two, yeah,
or in week one.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
Put that out there. Don't put that out there in
the world, don't, Jake Cole.

Speaker 3 (14:49):
I was more going towards the fact that he's got
two tackles that won't be able to block someone when
they come live in a game secure, which.

Speaker 4 (14:58):
May cause that calf toke a little bit.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
You know, you want to put that out there, I'm
gonna put out I'm gonna.

Speaker 4 (15:03):
Hey, Zack, why don't you take a few reps behind
these guys? You know, what do you think?

Speaker 3 (15:09):
Maybe?

Speaker 4 (15:10):
How's that? You know? Look good for mommy? All right?
Make her feel good about herself?

Speaker 2 (15:15):
Okay, all right? Quid pro quote? Mom?

Speaker 4 (15:18):
Got hey, how about this these mom.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
How about Stanford and cal the West. I'm gonna put
that out there for you. Stanford to the Mountain West,
they should join? Why not Stanford to the Mountain West?

Speaker 4 (15:32):
No a AC pan Specific America Conference. You know, we
should be in the Panini League or something like that.
You get Sandwiches League or good cards you know, yeah,
they do cards too.

Speaker 3 (15:48):
Trading cards and sticks, you got it.

Speaker 4 (15:50):
Trading card stickers and a great sandwich. This is what
we do with Stanford. I mean, here, look, you can
put that out there. The thing about that is I
been putting that out there for a year, that we're
going to screw this up. I put it out to
the president of our university. I sent him a letter
about this last October saying, get on the ball, get

(16:14):
this done right. Instead, what happens, you know, he gets
an academic investigation, gets fired, our athletic director not so great.
You know, you can pour on anything you want. The
salt's already in that wound. Pal Let me just tell
you that.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
Five my own university, five years from now, you're going
to get a letter back going, dear mister Cole, thank
you so much for your inquiry of five years.

Speaker 4 (16:39):
No, no, no, no. I already got the response, and
you should have heard it when I said, why don't
you take the ten teams that are remaining and try
to join the ACC right, I suggested that, and he said, oh,
that's been looked at. It's really not something that we
care to do. Fast forward, and now you're on bend

(17:01):
and knee begging for that.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
Yeah, Mountain West, Stanford, you you'd be the favorite.

Speaker 4 (17:08):
Mountain Mountain West, just just just kill the program, just
destroy it. You know all the all the Olympic sports.

Speaker 2 (17:16):
Yeah, you can join, even join the CFL. You might
win some games there. Why not?

Speaker 4 (17:21):
You know what? You know what are Sometimes it's going
to look like Martin short Dirt doing.

Speaker 3 (17:27):
Doing that skitch on Christopher Guest and every yet, God, is.

Speaker 4 (17:32):
That is that brilliant? You know what? Was it synchronized?

Speaker 1 (17:36):
I don't swim. Laurence doesn't swim, so we have some things.

Speaker 4 (17:40):
I don't swim.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
Laurens. The Raiders are the lots dark and they're doing
this whole thing. He's worried.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
Okay, so all right, so let's let's start with this
before we get to Trey Lance. I know you have
some some big time thoughts on what's going on there
in San Francisco. Look, Aaron Rodgers says today is concern
over the Jets offensive line is pretty low. Another practice
where they didn't look really good. They're still trying to
figure out their tackles. I said this beginning of the show.
Any team would trade their problems for the Jets problem
Site unseen because the Jets are trying to figure out

(18:09):
a couple of tackles and that's it.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
Everything else is taken care of, or oh yeah, is
it a bigger deal for you?

Speaker 1 (18:15):
And don't just say it's a bigger deal because me
Jets fan here, you got to be legit here, mister insider,
you got to give us some legit points.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
Are you going to say that?

Speaker 4 (18:24):
Well, you know, how did that offensive tackle thing work
out for the for the Chiefs in that Super Bowl
against Tampa? Oh yeah, it's just a couple offensive tackles.
We can get through the Super Bowl without it. Four
hundred running yards not rushing yards, but running yards by
Patrick Mahomes as he was trying to get out of

(18:45):
the way of every task rusher that the Buccaneers had,
and including guys that they signed that morning that did
not work well in that Super Bowl. So I'll take
the super Bowl tackles matter.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
I'll take the super Bowl. If you're telling me we're
making to the super Bowl, I'll take the super Bowl.

Speaker 4 (18:59):
I'm sure. I'm sure you would. However, that was the
week before the Super Bowl. This is weeks before the
season starts. So if you don't have your offensive tackles,
you got issues. I'm just saying you got issues. Can
you overcome that? In that division? Good luck.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
Thanks j Cole. There you go, all right?

Speaker 4 (19:22):
You want you can't handle the truth? Is that what
you're telling me.

Speaker 1 (19:26):
American Athletic Conference from Stanford, That's that's where you're going
sun Belt. You're gonna go play in the sun Belt.

Speaker 4 (19:32):
That's my favorite today was the Pacific American Conference. That
was the one eighteen teams with with Wazoo and Oregon State.
You know, like the four of us were supposed to
be the superpowers, like bringing SMU. I think Temple was
on there. You know, it was just it was an
array of of alstar rams. It was just awesome. I

(19:54):
get that right. Oh god, it was just fantastic. Okay,
go on, h it looks it's not even regular. It's
not table salt that's in the wound. For me, it's
like the highest end kosher salts that they've followed that wound.
For me, the kind of stuff that you get at
Arts Deli when you occasionally buy me a sandwich.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
Well, how often are you in studio? When you're in studio,
we buy you a sandwich. That's how it works.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
You come to LA and don't even call it. How
many times you been to LA.

Speaker 1 (20:22):
And not even called us how many times enough?

Speaker 3 (20:25):
Okay, there you go, last week, the week before that,
a concert a month ago, all of those things that flows.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
I got to call what it is. Hey.

Speaker 3 (20:37):
Jacol Smith expressed great concern by the number of pugilists
on display at practices across the NFL. Is it more
than we've seen in the history.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
Are we just covering it more?

Speaker 4 (20:52):
Probably just covering it more because we don't really know
what to cover in regular practices, and not that much
happened anymore so, I mean, because there's no real hitting
in practice. Guys, you know, when when the weather starts
to get hot, like, they don't get tired out from
doing you know, Oklahoma drills or middle drills anymore. So

(21:15):
they have all this kind of energy and they just
fight a little bit more so I would I would
assume that that's part of it. I always say that
good teams don't fight, and good coaches don't allow for fighting,
because if that's going to be your reaction when things get,
you know, tough, how are you going to react in

(21:37):
games when things get tough? And I know there are
some coaches out there like, yeah, I want to see him,
you know, drop his stones and let's see how it
goes and all that kind of stuff, you know, Rex
Ryanisms and Buddy Ryanisms. How that worked for the Jets,
by the way, and so you know, like some coaches
really love that. Then there are other coaches, look guys

(21:57):
like Belichick or even Saban who are like, I don't
want fighting in practice. So generally the way you should
take it is if your team is fighting a lot
in practice, they're probably not very disciplined.

Speaker 1 (22:10):
See I go this way, I go. Would it kill
teams to have a practice or two at night? Because
I think a lot of it comes from it's hot.
It's hotter than it's ever been.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
You're out here, Can we practice?

Speaker 4 (22:21):
Let them go all? Should we let them get air
conditioning between plays? Two?

Speaker 2 (22:27):
How about or twice? You practice at night? It's not
going to kill you.

Speaker 4 (22:31):
Kill you. This is a tough guy coaching I was
expect from you.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
I'm going to practice at night, really okay, because we're
not going to play games at night.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
Now, let's make sure.

Speaker 4 (22:41):
Why are you are you a little tired? Why didn't
you go take a couple of plays off? It's okay.
This is how we've done it with the Jets for
the last fifty years. That's why we're good.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
Let me ask you this.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
If you had an all access pass to go to
a practice in the middle of the day, would you go. No,
it would be too hot for you. They say, hey,
we got a night time Oh that sounds good, nice,
cool breeze. I would go cover that.

Speaker 4 (23:01):
I have make how many practices I covered with the
Miami Dolphins in the middle of the day in Florida
in July and August, every one of them? So yes,
I was out there. I know what that's like. It
is miserable, it's tough. It's what makes teams better and tougher.

Speaker 1 (23:24):
That sounds like a problem, man, That's not a meat problem.
That's a you problem.

Speaker 4 (23:29):
Well, he said you would I go? I did I
have pass? I went to every one of them. Would
I go if I had a path? No, it's not
even a question. I did go. I did?

Speaker 3 (23:41):
Hey, j Cole up up in San Francisco. We talked
about Trey Lance a little bit last week. Now, Sam
Donald's going to start the second preseason game. What's the
asking price for Trey Lance in an open marketplace.

Speaker 4 (23:55):
Oh, it's probably not much different than it was in
the off season. It's like a fifth there round pick,
a fourth round pick. You know, I feel bad for
the kid because there's no way for him to develop
on that team right now, unless there's just so many
injuries that there's nothing left for him but to play

(24:18):
right like he'd have to be the last survivor in
order for them to let him on the field. And
you know, not that Sam Darnold is an't great shakes,
you know, he's but but he'll probably do what they
ask him to do effectively enough. I mean, it's Rock
Purty or nothing for them. But you know when you

(24:40):
watch Trey Lance play and it's really sad, is you know,
you know, a well a you don't know if he's
really even good enough to play the b You know,
he hasn't played enough downs in the last four years
since he you know, since he played in twenty nineteen.

(25:00):
It hasn't played enough real football at any level that
he feels at all comfortable and knows what he's doing
out there. I mean against the Raiders and admittedly, like
half of those plays against the Raiders he had no
shot because the offensive line play was so awful. But
even on the ones when he did have a chance.

(25:22):
He just wasn't ready. He's not looking downfield. I mean,
he threw two decent balls to Chris Connelly in the
middle of the field. He also shows on two interceptions
easy easy picks in the middle of the field, and
then everything else that he threw was underneath. You know,
it's like five yards five yards and under I mean,

(25:43):
you know, I thought I was watching, you know, Joey
Herrington at practice all over again, and I watched those
Joey Harrington practices in the middle of the day.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
In Yeah, that's Joey Heisman to you, that's Joey Heisman.
Come on, man, get it right, joy.

Speaker 4 (25:57):
That was the last time he was any good.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
He's on Twitter at Jason Cole sixty two. That is,
at Jason Cole sixty two. If the weather is above
ninety degrees. Don't expect to see him at any NFL
practice for the rest of his life.

Speaker 4 (26:11):
One of those practicespping like crazy you read yeah, I was, Yeah,
Jimmy Johnson says otherwise.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
But that's okay, that's fine, that's fine.

Speaker 4 (26:21):
Ever tell you my favorite Jimmy Johnson story. Oh my goodness,
can you tell me you ripped me so hard? One
day in practice, Did I tell you that? No? Hey,
well next week.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
Well let's say that.

Speaker 4 (26:34):
Note.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
You're gonna be with us on Friday morning when we're
in for Dan Patrick. So are you gonna tell us?

Speaker 4 (26:37):
Then I'll tell you. I'll tell you it was Hall
of Fame material, all right, not.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
A Hall of very good story. Hall of fame story,
all right, very good.

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Speaker 2 (27:00):
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(27:26):
He's not retired. He's retired, He's not retired. Today he
said there is one team that could force him to
end his retirement and he would return to the NFL
and his team that scares the crap out of me. Yeah,
he said, quote Brian Dable wants me on his roster.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
I know it.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
I love to pretend that I could still play, kind
of having fun with the bit. He's on Kadams Show
earlier today. But Brian Dable's the coach. He would say,
if I had to come matter of retirement, it would
be for him in the New York Giants. And I
got news for you man as much. The worst the
worst case scenario for the Jets isn't that Aaron Rodgers
stinks and the Jets stink. The worst case scenario is

(28:13):
that the Jets stink and the Giants are even better
than they were last year, because you know what, the
Giants are going to be really bleeping good man. It's
gonna be hard for you to not pick a Jets
Giants Super Bowl the Giants.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
Look at you.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
Look at the Giants right. You're talking about Daniel Jones
finding his voice and finding his way in this Brian
Dable system. And he and I when I told you
last year Coach of the Year, and it wasn't even
close to anybody else. You see why they brought back
Saquon Barkley who decided I'm not going to cause any controversy.
I'm coming back. I want to get paid more money,
but I'm not gonna do this. They added eleven wide

(28:48):
receivers in the draft, including you know, they had Jalen
Hyatt and and and Isaiah Hutchins. Was was so good
at the end of the year last year, I think, yeah,
what six catches for one hundred yards in the playoff game.
They have some pretty good weapons Wandale Robinson coming off
the torn acl but he's a big guy they have there.
And the Giants defense is really well coached. This is

(29:09):
a well coached team overall. Every game they play. Watching
them last year it was it was a business trip
for them. Every game was a business trip. We know
what we need to do to take care of business,
and we know how to win this game. And we
have all the answers. I mean, not that they're gonna
win every game, but last year was we have all
the answers. We know how we are prepared to beat

(29:30):
the team we're playing against, whether it's a team that's
far below us. Don't have to worry about any kind
of drop off or any kind of flat game. A
team just as good as US a team better than us.
They are so well coached and Brian Dable is such
a good coach. It would not surprise me if I'm
looking at the Giants making a run to the Super
Bowl the NFC this year, because they'll be better than

(29:50):
they were last year and the division is kind of
the same. Eagles are really good. Eagles got a loaded roster.
But man, I'll tell you what. The Giants and Brian
Dables a guy that scares the wrap out of me.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
Yeah, I mean the key is do you have enough
at the running back position? Should anything befall Barkley, Matt
Brida is there? Gary Brightwell, are the names behind you?
And you drafted Eric Gray in the fifth round?

Speaker 2 (30:11):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (30:12):
Fine? Receiving corps. As you said, they brought in a
lot of veterans from Paris, Campbell and Cole Beasley comes back.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
I think Mark Bavaro is back, Phil mccontie is back.
They bringing a lot of guys back.

Speaker 3 (30:23):
But like Beasley, folks can love or hate him, you know,
have your issues. The guy catches footballs. He's good at
setting up in a spot and moving the chains. And
if he can do some of that which we watched
him in Buffalo for years. We watched him have great success.
Fits right in becomes a nice little safety blanket, security

(30:44):
outlet for Daniel Jones, as does Darren Waller if he's healthy.
I mean, you're looking at a squad retooled, and I'm
really kind of upset that you jumped on board this
bandwagon and this story came out because this was the
team that I was going to bludgeon you with to
go anti Jets you throughout the rest of this preseason.
But I think I think this observation is right on.

(31:06):
I mean, Philly's gonna be good, but you got a
new coordinator. You got a bunch of change going on
there that you'll have to remedy. The running back by
committee situation. Is it gonna be great again? Will that
roll through? There's the offensive line hold up? We always
talk about depth and the numbers there Dallas, everybody's starting
to like a bit more.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
In Washington.

Speaker 3 (31:28):
It's gonna be a lot of cannibalism, and I think
a lot of infighting for the division, just like it
always should be. But I do like the Giants well
rounded squad and opportunity for Mike Kafka to show some wizardry.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
Look at you, Hey, the Northwestern guy is doing it now.

Speaker 1 (31:44):
It's it's very difficult because you look at the Giants
and go, who scares you?

Speaker 4 (31:48):
Right?

Speaker 1 (31:49):
Who really scares you on that team? Daniel Jones? All right,
Daniel Jones got paid. Yeah he's okay. Barkley, who knows
the wide receiving corps is not great all the time?
Yeah they got Darren Waller. Now to you have it,
but you put it all together. This is not just
a solid team.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
I mean it.

Speaker 1 (32:04):
What this is where a head coach that really has
the pulse of his team is all the difference in
the world. They kind of reminded me a little bit
of the Patriots last year, where no matter what game
they were going into, no matter what kind of roster
they had, they were gonna go in and give the
other team hell and they were gonna win games they
were supposed to, right. I mean the Patriots in the
in there, Brady Heyday, when you do every week they

(32:25):
were going in and they had the right game plan
for whoever they were playing. Where whoever they were playing
wasn't gonna be ready for what they were gonna do,
and they're gonna be even better this year. They got
a taste of it last year. I'm telling you, man,
the Giants scare the crap out of me. I can
see them going to the Super Bowl. Jason, so let
me get this straight. You have an all New York
Super Bowl. I might I might have all New York
Super I might have Jets, Lions.

Speaker 5 (32:46):
You gotta ask Todd about the odds there.

Speaker 3 (32:48):
We'll just have to hang out at the New York
New York then, and when we go to Vegas.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
Twitter and out about a fresca, Mike and swollen dome. Sorry,
x at swollen dome, x At, how about a fresca?

Speaker 2 (32:59):
Coming up next week?

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